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Hey Topher, what we got on there? Week 14 predictions now?
Yes we do.
Alright, we are the sports bastards, here we are again.
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Yes, yeah, yep, yep. I'm sure by now you have little voodoo dolls and your children cry when you put us on, we know this. Your neighbors complain when it's too loud.
Yeah.
Pretty much if it's on it's too loud.
Yes, yeah. It's free and it's still not worth it.
Yeah.
We still charge too much and it's free.
It's a good thing nobody has to pay tax on this either.
Oh yeah, yeah, they wouldn't do it then. I gotta pay five cents. No, no.
Alright.
Imagine if we showed up on people's credit card bills, nobody would ever.
Douchebags.
Who's this two douchebags in a microphone?
What if it just showed up as douchebags?
You spent how much on douchebags?
You're not very fresh are you? You're not very fresh down there are you?
Can I give you some hints?
You don't remind me of a summer's eve at all.
I think you need to learn to wipe better down there.
Somehow you're...
Maybe stop inserting bizarre objects out of that.
You're getting too much urine on your cooch.
I knew it.
Okay, we have some games that we're going to predict.
Alright.
We have 13 games.
Because we have bi-weeks. If I calculated correctly this is it for the bi-weeks.
Yeah, because we're getting out of the final stretch and they don't want to do that. Yep.
So the teams with a bi this week.
New England, Baltimore, Denver, Houston, Indianapolis, and Washington.
Okay.
So five out of the six are AFC catching up.
And Washington was the only one in the NFC that hadn't had a bi-week yet.
I'll bet you the Ravens are ecstatic they don't have to play this week.
Oh, I bet.
They got some resting and figuring to do.
Yes, they do.
Alright, start with the game going on right now.
Thursday night game, Green Bay at Detroit.
Um.
Boy, I really want to pick Green Bay.
I really, really do. I have not looked at the score like you.
Yep.
You know what, I mean I don't care if I win this thing or not. I'm going to pick Green Bay.
Alright.
24 to 17.
I'm going to go with Detroit, 23-13. So pretty similar scores.
Should I look at the score real quick and see who's leading?
Sure.
Okay.
I've got them on record. You can take a look.
Two-Night I think gives me it.
If you word it right, it'll take you right to it.
Oh, yeah, you're going to win.
They're leading 17 to 7 at a half time.
Oh.
No, that's still close enough. We'll see. By 10 points.
Anything can happen in the second half.
Yeah, it can. That's right.
We've seen a lot of second half shutouts this season.
Jared Goff could become Jared Goff.
Jared Goff could start acting more like Jared Vogel.
Oh.
He's out in the stands giving out lollipops.
Come here. Come here. Here. Don't you want a lemon lime? These are delicious.
That pop looks weird.
Shut up, kid.
All right. We'll just go ahead on that one there and go to the next.
Next up we have 3-9 Cleveland at 9-3 Pittsburgh.
Okay. I'm going to pick Pittsburgh because if anyone can make Winston make mistakes, it is Pittsburgh.
Yeah.
All right. Yeah, I'm going to pick 24 to 13.
Okay. I'm picking Pittsburgh 34-10.
Okay. Well, you're probably more right, but I'm picking on the lower because I think that Pittsburgh's going to find a way to slow down Winston.
Yeah.
He always comes up, Mike Tomlin and his coordinators always come up with a really good game plan.
And so I'm going to go with that, but we'll see what happens.
All right. Yeah, I might be a little optimistic thinking Pittsburgh will put up 34 points, but.
Well, here's an interesting stat that I just saw on the game tonight.
Green Bay has 24 passing yards in the first half.
However, they have 104 running yards in the first half.
Total.
No, total yards. 80 rushing yards, sorry.
And 4.7 yards per play.
I'm going to rewind this and look at that and see what the hell happened.
24 passing yards.
Wow.
Well, I'll take a look and see how many attempts he's made.
Yeah, it could be that he just, they didn't have the ball that long and he just didn't have very many attempts. So anyhow.
Oh, he's back. They deducted from the passing yards.
He had seven attempts. He completed three.
Oh, they're not letting him pass much.
No, they're not. They're rushing him, I bet.
Yeah.
Okay. Anyhow. All right. Next one.
Okay. No, which one were we on? Sorry.
Well, next one we have is four and eight. New Orleans at two and 10 Giants.
New Orleans.
24-14.
I'm picking New Orleans as well. I'm thinking 17-10.
A lower scoring game, but.
We both have.
We've got a chance to have a good game here.
Okay. Sounds good.
I think we're both on the right track there. We're not talking an overly great game. We're talking very mundane.
Yeah. Yeah.
A lot of fun.
Yeah. Yep.
All right.
All right. So next game we have three and nine New York Jets at the five and seven Miami Dolphins.
Dolphins. The Jets have just took a shit on me because I keep thinking they're going to have a little resurgence, a little fight.
No. 24-10.
Miami.
24-10, Miami.
All right. I'm going with Miami as well. 28-7.
I'm going with Miami as well. 28-17. So pretty close to your pick.
Okay. Okay. I bet you we're not too far off on that one because the Jets are lifeless.
Yeah, they really are. They are not trying anymore.
No, I don't think I don't even think Aaron Rodgers is. He shut his mouth really quick and he's not saying anything.
I think he's like so bored with himself that he has nothing to say.
Yeah.
So.
All right. Next game we have is the two and ten Jacksonville Jaguars without Trevor Lawrence at Tennessee, which is three and nine.
I don't even know who Jacksonville is going to start.
I'm starting. I'm going with Tennessee even though they're out their quarterback and I don't know who they're going to start, but I just, I, I see Jacksonville was already falling apart and now that they don't have their leader, I think it's done.
I'm going to say 17 to 13, they will lose.
All right. Sounds good. I'm going 27-13 Tennessee.
Okay.
Tennessee is, they've got some fight in them.
They do.
And Jacksonville has been, I think, just gut punched. The way they lost Trevor Lawrence to just a flagrant foul.
Yeah.
They might be just really, really, really angering them.
Yeah.
They're going to be distracted and they're not going to turn that into a good performance on the field. It's going to turn them into a distracted and penalty ridden team, I think.
Yes, I think so too. And I think what it did was I think it all, their season was already ruined, but now it's just like beyond.
It's just like boom.
I mean, the bottom fell out. That's it.
Yeah.
And I think some of them are like planning their vacations for January.
Yeah. I would think so.
I think right now they're looking on Priceline.
Going honey, Cancun, or do you want to go to Hawaii?
That's what's going on in Jacksonville and the players.
Yeah.
You want to go all inclusive or do you just want to like drive around and find different bars? That's what's going on there.
All right. Anyhow, next one.
Next up we have six and six Atlanta at ten and two Minnesota.
Minnesota will win this even though they have Sam Darnold because Atlanta has Kirk Cousins.
Yep.
21 to 14 Minnesota.
Well, I'm going to go the other way. I think Atlanta is going to come in and show some signs of life.
I'm going to pick Atlanta 24 21.
You know, and you may be right because they're up against the wall on the playoff picture playoffs.
Yeah, they're playoffs.
Yeah, you're probably right.
We shall see. I mean, thank God we don't have to take the point spread.
Oh, no. Like I said, I think it's an email or maybe I haven't even answered it on a show yet.
But if I was in Vegas betting on this, I would not be so bold with my picks.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I would not be throwing out these just now. Let's see if it works.
Steel, you know, the ones that I'm picking, they have all the glory or all the luck, you know, if you hit it right, you're a genius.
If you don't, you're like, yeah, I took a shot.
Anyhow, any guy like me who is just kind of, you know, flying by luck, I'll lose more often than I'll win.
And, you know, I just lose money.
So that's one of the reasons I don't gamble.
Me too. Me too.
Because I'll hit that one miracle one and miss all the easy's. All the give me's I will get wrong.
But I'll hit that one weird one. I'm just not a good gambler.
What was the score you picked? Was it 24-17?
21-17.
21-17. All right.
OK, I got so excited I forgot to write it down.
Oh, that's OK. I think that's what I picked. I think. I don't know. Anyhow, it's good enough. 21-17.
I know you picked Minnesota and that's the important part.
Yeah.
All right. Three and nine Carolina at ten and two Philadelphia.
OK.
Philadelphia was going to be closer than people think. It's going to be 20-28-24.
Philly.
28-24. That's closer than I picked. I picked 30-13 Philly.
You might very well be much closer.
Philadelphia really isn't a high scoring team, but that just kind of seemed right.
Yeah. I mean, Carolina's been showing signs of life.
And what's his name, Young? I forgot it. Bryce Young has been throwing pretty well.
But I still don't think it's enough to beat Philly.
No.
I think to me, I think the score will be closer than we think because of that. But that's it.
Yeah.
All right. Looks good.
Next game, two and ten Las Vegas at the six and six Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Tampa Bay.
Mm-hmm.
42-12.
Ooh.
Tampa is, they're going to stop a mud hole in Vegas' ass.
I'm going to surprise you, and I'm going to pick the Raiders this week.
Wow. Okay.
Yeah. Because I watched them handle the Chiefs really well last Sunday.
That's a good point.
I'm thinking about how the Chiefs were really lucky to get out of there with a win.
So I'm hoping that will embolden the Raiders and make them feel a lot better about themselves.
And then they'll go into Tampa Bay and remember the Super Bowl they lost to them and say, all right, revenge time.
You know what? You're right.
Vegas 21-13.
That's as good a reason as anything I've heard.
Isn't it?
Yeah.
Any coach worth paycheck will figure out something like that to tell the team.
Yeah. I mean, they come up with something of how they've been wronged or revenge.
Yep.
All right. It's good that we're picking some different.
It is. It is.
All right. Next game, 7-5 Seattle at 6-6 Arizona.
Nice divisional matchup late in the season.
Yeah. I'm going to go with Arizona, even though Seattle's playing really well.
I think Arizona's going to have a little kick in them.
And I'm going to go to 23-21 Arizona.
I could see that.
I could too.
I can also see it the other way.
Yeah. I can see it going Seattle easily too.
So yeah, I'm going to pick Seattle 23-17.
Okay.
I can't even come up with a good reason why I'm just going to pick it.
That's fine.
I mean, that's the beauty of these things.
You don't really have to have a reason.
I just feel it.
My elbow itches.
Yeah, whatever.
Yeah. Last time I pissed it stank.
So yeah.
There we go.
Okay. 4-8 Chicago at the 5-7 San Francisco 49ers.
Wow.
The 49ers are going to have an interim coach.
They're at the 49ers and they got interim coach.
So, man, this one's tough.
The 49ers are missing people and they're playing like shit,
but I think they're going to have enough in them to barely beat Chicago.
And I'm going to go 17-10.
That's a nice old school score.
Yep.
All right.
Well, I'm going to figure on the interim coach boost factor.
That does happen a lot.
And the San Francisco giving up factor.
And I'm going to pick the Bears to have a rebound win 23-10.
I like that.
And you're probably right.
But I appreciate your confidence.
Yeah.
I mean, we have to pick some of these different.
And this is one that if I hit on them, it would look pretty good.
So I'll do it.
Yeah.
All right.
Next game is Buffalo with 10-2 at the Rams, 6-6.
They're at the Rams, which makes some difference,
but I'm going to go Buffalo and I'm going to go probably 37-20.
Wow.
We're real close.
I'm picking the Buffalo 30-14.
So just one touchdown less for each team.
And that's what I pick.
Okay.
So yeah, we're both thinking the same way on that.
Yeah, which kind of scares me.
All right.
Well, we were different enough on the Chicago San Francisco,
so that balances out.
Yeah.
Well, actually, you know what?
I mean, we could both be wrong on that and I'd be fine.
Yeah, true.
True.
Yeah.
And Cindy asked, you know, who was I rooting for,
Buffalo or the 49ers?
And I said, well, it's better for the Chiefs if Buffalo loses,
but on the other hand, I want the Chiefs to earn it.
I don't want them to get in because the better teams lost.
No, that's what I thought.
I want to see Buffalo do really well,
and then I want to see Kansas City face them in the playoffs,
see what happens.
Playoffs, yes.
Playoffs.
That's the way I feel.
I don't want any give-me's.
Yeah, you know, bring on your best.
I don't want your second string.
I don't want your injured limping team.
Give me your best.
Kansas City has made a living lately doing that.
Yeah.
You know, no matter how bad they looked when it was on the line
and it was the best team out there, they came out victorious.
Yeah.
I mean, they lost to Oakland, or not Oakland.
They lost to Vegas.
Horribly Christmas Day.
And I, like everyone else, called them dead.
Yeah. Yeah.
I really had doubts at that point.
I think everybody did, but man, you know what?
I mean, they won it all.
In enemy territory, they only have one,
they only have one playoff game at home.
Then they had to go into Buffalo and into Baltimore and win them both.
And I mean, but they looked worse last year than they did this year.
But the competition is stronger this year too.
Yeah.
So, you know, I mean, it has a xin and yang, that's for sure.
Yeah.
All right.
Next game, eight and four Chargers at the 11 and one Chiefs.
You know, the Chargers are eventually going to get by us, but not this year.
Yeah.
I'm going to say the Chiefs actually score a few points this time.
I'm going to say they're going to score probably 28 points.
Even though they have a solid defense,
I think that Worthy is going to come up with a big one.
I think that Gray and maybe Kelsey has a big game.
And I think you're going to see.
Pacheco, Doc.
Yep.
Pacheco is going to be running hard.
Hunt's going to be running hard.
And I think that Hopkins is going to have an exceptional game.
I'm going to 28, 28, what did I say?
28 to 17, was it?
You didn't say yet.
Okay.
28 to 20.
Well, that's exactly what I think.
Oh, cool.
I wrote my down while you were picking a different one.
And I picked 28, 20 exactly.
Cool.
That's scary, but cool.
It is scary, but I mean, it's cool thinking we're thinking the same way on it.
Yeah.
We'll see if we were right or wrong.
So.
Yeah.
All right.
Next game, four and eight Cincinnati at the five and seven Dallas Cowboys.
Oh.
Yeah.
What a stinking game for Monday night too.
Looked good on paper, didn't it?
Yeah, I would think they'd try to find a way to flex out of that, but it's probably too late.
I would bet it is.
Monday nights are not easy to flex out of.
Sunday nights not that bad.
But Monday nights you're talking about changing a lot of things.
Well, that's true.
That's true.
You got to do it well in advance.
I would put it like this.
If this was the last, the last week of football and there was like something riding on this, you would see, you know what I mean?
Like there's a game.
Well, there will be games riding on the last game somewhere.
You would see that game in there and you see this game thrown in midday Sunday.
Yeah.
But I don't think that there is really that much of a marquee game because the Los Angeles Kansas City game was a Sunday night game.
So they couldn't flex out of that.
And other than that, there's not that great of a matchup.
So I think you're like, you know what?
People just watch it just because it's like the shit bowl, you know, two teams underperforming.
And they just want to see who really goes to hell.
Who is really falling apart and who's kind of holding it together a little bit better.
So I'm going to pick Cincinnati just because the Cowboys are the Cowboys.
And Cincinnati's been scoring a lot of points and I don't think I don't think the Cowboys are capable of that right now.
Yeah, probably not.
I'm going to say 34 to probably it's going to be a blowout.
So I'm going to go 34 to 10 Cincinnati.
Well, I'm again going to go the other way.
Awesome.
I love this.
I think Dallas is going to win it home again and they're going to drive the final nail in the coffin of the Cincinnati Bengals season.
I would not mind that.
I wouldn't mind that either.
So I'm picking Dallas 34-27.
I love that pick, by the way.
I love that.
I mean, that is a great pick.
That really is.
Because you're saying that Natty is just going to fucking implode.
That's fine with me.
That does not hurt my feelings.
I hope you are correct.
Yeah, I'm OK with Cincinnati coming back in about five, six years and being a contender.
But this current version of the of the Bengals, they're just obnoxious.
They're trash.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, should we go on to bullet points?
Now for the bullet points.
Topher, are you ready?
I am ready.
OK.
I'm always ready for the bullet points.
Those are those are fun.
These that I swear this is as good as any any other segment in podcasts or sports radio anywhere.
This it is.
I listen back to it and it is solid.
So, OK, as long as Mahomes is starting all season with the Chiefs, will they ever miss the playoffs?
Playoffs?
I agree.
I don't think they will.
No, his passion and drive will make it happen.
Yeah.
And I can see Mahomes being the kind of guy that when he knows he can't perform at the level that he's expect of himself, he'll retire.
Yes, because by that time, well, even now, but by that time, he definitely won't have anything to prove.
He'll have enough money and he'll be like, you know what?
I'm not going to I'm not going to be in this league without winning.
And he'll just go.
He's already guaranteed Hall of Fame.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that's not going to be for a long time.
I'm pretty sure.
So but when he does, I agree if he drops off that bad, you won't see him scratching for traction like Aaron Rodgers or something.
He'll just be like, all right, league has been fun.
Love you guys.
Someone else come up here and take the throne.
So, yeah.
All right.
We agree with that.
Is Matt Nagy doing a good job?
Oh, you know, I was I'm going to say yes.
I think that because the people he's got to work with, I think he's getting about the best he can out of them.
I think the front office is not really doing their job in getting a decent offensive line from end to end.
Yeah. And a lot of that is salary cap.
I understand that we couldn't even keep Legerrius need, let alone get some.
I mean, I think that Brett Veach might have pulled another brilliant move with D.J.
Humphries. If he is if he's close to what he was before and we seal up that one side, that's going to give them a Holmes extra second that he needs.
Yeah. And maybe next time pick a different place to economize rather than the offensive line.
Absolutely.
That's exactly what I was thinking, Topher.
It's like if we're going to skimp on something, figure something else out.
So, yeah, get some mediocre running back, you know, but yeah, something.
Yeah. But you got to protect the man that's going to do it for you.
And that is my home.
I mean, I mean, Kelsey's great and all these other people, but is great.
And, you know, we have solid people and really good people all over the board.
Chris Jones. But the fact is, my home's is it.
He's the guy that is a catalyst and the guy that gets it done.
And if he gets hurt or if he goes down, you're fucked.
If he goes down, there's no season for us.
That's it. It's over.
Yeah, that's that's kind of a scary position to be in.
But that is really where we are without my home's.
We're not making it back to the Super Bowl.
Yes. And well, I mean, we're making the playoffs definitely because we're you know, we are we made it into the playoffs with our record.
So, yeah, yeah.
So we will be there this year. But, you know, if if something like that did happen, we ain't going anywhere without him.
Yeah. Yeah. All right.
What do you think of Jacksonville Jaguars moving just down the road to Orlando?
That's a much bigger market and supports an NBA team really well.
You know, that's that's an interesting idea.
I think so, too. And they could maybe switch to the NFC with another team, switch to the AFC geographically better.
They could have a natural rivalry with Tampa, which is an hour and a half away.
Yeah. Yeah, it could be known as I don't know, you know, the Central Florida Bowl or something, you know, every time they play.
And since they'd be in the same division, they would play twice a year.
And you're going to have a lot of Tampa fans over there and a lot of Orlando fans over in Tampa.
It would be I think it's a great idea. Yeah.
The more you say, the more sense it makes. It really does. Yeah.
I haven't heard anything about that. That was my own creation. And I really think that that would work.
It would work well. And Orlando, you pretty much answered all the questions about, well, it's real close to another team, but it's not that big a deal.
No, no, no, no. They'll support him.
And also, I'm sure if you went to Orlando said, hey, do you want this NFL team? They'd build a new stadium for him.
Yeah, they have the capital with Disney and Universal and everything that goes through there.
They would have the capital to do it. It wouldn't be a big problem. It could be Disney Stadium. It could be Disney Field.
It could be Universal Field. I mean, there's so many things. I mean, there's so many possible sponsors in that area.
So, yeah. Yeah. So I, you know, that's I haven't heard that or nothing. That came from me. I would like to clarify that.
That's my vision. I never heard that. So I have no no proof or anything like that that it will ever even be brought up.
So. All right. Should it be that the NFC for a geographical rivalry with Tampa and move Carolina to the AFC?
See what I'm saying? What was the first game again?
OK. Should it be in the NFC for a geographical? Oh, wait a minute. You know what? I hang on. I screwed this up.
OK. All right. Carolina could be moved to a part of this old move here.
You know, when you're shuffling them around like like taking the Jaguars going to Orlando and then putting them in the in the NFC while you're doing that.
Take Carolina and put them in the AFC. OK. Yeah. Yeah.
You're just trading them out. So Carolina would be our would be the East fourth team.
Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I screwed that question up and I I didn't proofread it like I normally do because I had to find it right before we started.
I had it buried because I've done a bunch of stuff for the music creeps.
And anyhow, I never got a chance to look it over and, you know, and then like make the punctuation and all that correct.
So anyhow, I apologize. But that was all pretty much the same question.
OK. Yeah. And you know, that it seems like every time the NFL has two franchises in the same state, then one day of seeing one's NFC.
Yes. Florida is a little unusual because they have three franchises. Yeah.
And I'm not counting in New York because the Jets and the Giants play in New Jersey. So that doesn't count.
I agree. State of Miami has all three. So you're going to have two in one and one in the other.
So, yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I think it will work out well and I think it's a great idea, but I don't make those decisions.
So, yeah, yeah, there's always going to be some hesitation to do that because teams tend to build themselves to win their division and then win their conference.
And suddenly you put them in a different division, different conference, they're going to have to rebuild.
Yes. It takes a lot of coaching to get a team to do that.
Well, when Seattle left the AFC West, look what happened to them. They plummeted for a while.
Yeah, they were they were doing OK as a member of the AFC West. They were kicking the chief's butt.
Yeah, but that wasn't very hard at the time. Little hands, Dave Craig come in there and stomped us a couple of times.
Yeah. Yeah, certainly they're playing the Niners twice a year and the Rams twice a year.
They're like, holy crap. They're like, shit, who moved us? We don't know anything about it.
This is bullshit. Well, I mean, to be fair, they begin their ass kicked right now by Kansas City, definitely.
And the Chargers and Denver. So I got, you know, anyhow.
All right. The next one, I propose that the bottom two teams in each division that showboating should be outlawed.
For example, the Raiders showboated extensively, but it had only have only two victories.
Yeah. What there's a certain point where that should come under unsportsmanlike conduct.
Yeah, it's like simmer down, buddy. You only won two games. You do not have a right to celebrate.
You should go back to locker and go, that was good. It's a it's a very small start.
And that's it. I think if your team is that bad, you should get fined or flagged for showboating.
Yeah. Yeah. And that should be probably the bottom two teams in each division if they're that bad.
Yeah. But like you like taking somebody's man card, you take away their celebration card.
Yeah. Yes. Yep. It's like you don't you have not earned the right to celebrate.
And if you do, you'll be penalized. I like that because I was wondering, you know,
it's not just the Raiders that do that, but Carolina and all these other teams that are horrible.
They make one good play and they're like, dance it. And then everybody gets together for a group photo.
It's like you only won one fucking game. Calm down. Yeah.
So I always thought it was just going to celebrate the small victories.
I guess I guess me. I'd be like, yeah, yeah, that was cool.
But no, I'm going to go to the locker room and not say a damn word.
Yeah. All right. Why is it so important that the Super Bowl be played in a warm weather or dome stadium?
The league championship games are often played in the cold, wet conditions.
On that thought, should a Super Bowl team earn the right to play at home?
No more warm weather, neutral sites or like that.
You know, there's there's what we would like. And then there's what the NFL will do.
They'll never do it. They'll never do it. I know this, but I think it would be great if Kansas City had the best record
and they mowed through everybody. And then let's say they're playing Detroit and they have one more loss
or, you know, or head to head or whatever, like we lost to them or something like that, you know,
and they and they had the edge, whichever one came out on top of that. It goes to their stadium.
Yeah, I would definitely like to see home field advantage for a Super Bowl.
I know that the current reason to put the Super Bowl in a weather friendly state
is because it's not really for the football fans. Attending the Super Bowl is for celebrities and rich people.
And yes, where you go to network and hobnob and all that kind of stuff and book your next flight to Epstein's Island.
It's not really for people like us. That's why they try to price us out.
Oh, they have. They haven't tried. They have priced us out. I mean, yeah, there's no more trying.
A nice warm, friendly state where all these rich, expensive, important people won't be afraid to come.
So they can come and spend all the money. Yeah. So that is like why not just designate one stadium
as the Super Bowl Stadium and it's played there every year, no matter what you see, I would go.
I go for that idea. That'd be great. Yeah. You know, like boxing matches, you want to play at Madison Square Garden, don't you?
Yeah. Yeah, you're right, because that is where boxing has traditionally been the most competitive and the best and biggest names.
So, you know, oh, go ahead. I was going to say a dedicated Super Bowl Stadium would, of course, at that point,
it would be the league's responsibility for the maintenance and upkeep. So that would prevent them from doing it right there.
That would. You're right. You see, and also, they want all of us to pay for that. Yes.
I think another thing in play, too, is chiefs would have an obvious advantage right now if they played in the same stadium.
The chiefs have been there four out of five years. They would know that field very well. Yeah.
So and that would go into a home field advantage per se, you know, not as much as playing at Arrowhead, but yes.
So, all right. OK. Yeah, we both agree with that. It'll never happen, though.
The new Hard Knocks started up in midseason. Is that fair to the focus teams, the ones that Hard Knocks focused on?
I mean, I think because one of them are the Bengals, isn't it? How would you like them coming in now?
And everything's falling apart and Joe Burrow's mad and people are bitching and yelling in the locker room.
And I think that doing it midseason is wrong. Well, yeah, I do, too.
But it really drives the point home that this is not a sports league.
This is an entertainment league and entertainment comes before the actual performing the game of football.
So in other words, they know it's wrong. They don't give a shit. They're making money off of it. Exactly.
They're trying to grow the brand, grow the desire for football.
And if it screws up the team season, oh, well, there's always another team to take their place.
That's a good point. The entertainment is the important thing.
The audience and getting the people drawn in.
That's, I think, way more important to the NFL than the actual game we're trying to watch.
Yeah. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. You're right. So, yeah.
This next one I've been thinking about, but I want you to come up with some stuff.
And I just want to see if you came up with I'm not going to say what it is.
I want to see if you come up with the same stuff that I do.
So, okay. Defensive pass interference has been huge and crucial games.
Many times the deciding factor. Would you change anything about how it's called?
Yeah, I think I would no longer do the spot foul because college doesn't do that.
I think you get five yards, ten yards, something like that, maybe 15.
But take away the spot foul and take away the automatic first down.
I agree. The spot foul where it happened in the first down.
And I also think that there should be looked at about holding before that.
Because a lot of this time there was a little bit of holding before that.
But when the person commits defensive pass interference, they forget about that.
Because you'll see a flag come out before they even. I've seen this a few times now.
You'll see a flag come out and then the flag for the defensive pass interference comes out.
Yeah. Sometimes it's covered by rule.
Because I remember hearing them sometimes say we have two fouls on the play.
There's this one that is declined by rule. And then here's the other penalty.
So that might be some of that going on.
That probably is some of that because I just thought maybe they're like,
forget that, this is a real foul. But I bet that is right. I bet that's correct.
It's by rule. They're like, this is a real foul. That's the kind of foul.
So we're going to go with this. And also, like you said, it's a spot foul.
So that really means a lot. So if it happened on the one yard line,
then you guys are at the one yard line with a first down.
Yeah. So yeah, I agree with you.
I think that's the only one that's a spot foul is defensive pass interference.
Yes. And I also think that defensive pass interference,
you have to be turned around away from the ball and focused on the guy.
Because I've seen someone turn around, tried to get the ball,
because the ball's in play. It's in play for both people, the receiver and the cornerback.
And I think that's a little bit unfair too, because it's like,
hey, this guy turned around to get an interception.
And yeah, he bumped into the guy.
But incidental contact should not count as it, because he's going for the ball too.
That's the way I kind of saw it.
Yeah. That's another one of those areas where they can leave it kind of vague
and they can call it kind of on a discretionary basis.
So that's the way they can influence the game if something's getting out of hand
and it's turning into look like it might be a blowout.
It's like, okay, well, let's let the other team back in.
So they can make that kind of discretionary call and you can't really say out and out with a lie.
And also, that's one of the best make-up calls.
I mean, if they shit on someone and screw them really bad,
you can almost bet there's going to be defensive pass interference in the red zone
sometime in that game that's questionable towards the team
favoring the team that got screwed earlier.
Did you see last week the game that the Eagles played where they were down on like the six inch line
and they did the old push, push, yeah, rub hump or whatever they call it.
Rub hump, yeah.
I've seen the replay from the side over and over
and something nobody ever mentions is that entire offensive line moves
before the ball ever comes off the ground.
It's all started by the whole offensive line, but they play it over and over and they just ignore it.
No one even mentions it.
Yes, I agree with that.
And when it's playing today and nobody's mentioning it, it's because they've been told not to.
Well, yeah, it's like the sexy thing now.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like the sexy thing, the tush push.
And then they make a big deal out of it.
Oh, boy.
They're on the six inch line.
Watch out.
Watch out for the tush push.
We know what's coming.
You know, I can hear Colin's worth saying that right now, you know.
So it's kind of like hype.
It's like, oh, boy, can the defense hold the tush push?
It's fourth and sixth.
It's everyone's attention.
If they happen to be drifting and not paying attention to TV, you hear Colin.
Oh, here comes the tush push.
All of a sudden.
He's looking at the TV.
You know, it's on the goal line and you know, it might be a fourth down or something and could be critical, probably would be critical to the outcome of the game.
So, yeah, you could you could damn well bet that it's going to be exploited.
Yeah.
All righty.
What is the largest problem the NFL faces?
I think it's not enough talent to have all 32 teams be good and have enough backups.
I think the talent is pretty thin in some key areas like offensive line.
Yeah.
And it's not just us having offensive line problems.
Everybody is.
Yeah.
I think there should be more of like a quarterback Academy to help college quarterbacks make the transition to the pro style game if their college didn't run the pro style.
Yeah.
Because there are a lot of quarterbacks that, you know, could have been really good if they'd had the opportunity to learn the pro style.
Yeah.
And all that's going to limit expansion and expansion is, you know, the big thing on their mind.
They want to expand overseas.
They want to expand down south.
They're probably giving up on Canada because they already have their own football league.
Yeah.
And they have their rules.
A whole lot more players and you're going to be good players because of all the expansion teams suck and suck forever.
Then what's the point?
Yeah, that's true.
So, yeah, I think they need more people and they need to figure out a way to get well trained NFL ready players to be draftable.
Yeah.
And also another thing is, is the injury bug is so prevalent this year.
This is just something I'm adding on.
I think it is a direct result of having an extra game and then maybe another extra game coming and maybe these players are just wearing too thin.
Yeah, I think that's a big part of it.
It's also that they can maintain the rules in such a way that these violent collisions are allowed instead of actually trying to tackle the person.
Yeah.
And it's not often that someone gets injured when someone's being legitimately tackled.
It's when somebody is being demolished or blown up or overrun.
You know, that's where people get hurt a lot of the time.
I would agree.
So that's, it changed the rules to get rid of those kind of targeting hits.
And I got to add something on that while you're talking about that.
Lawrence has to have surgery now over that vicious assault.
Oh, it was over.
They already announced that.
Oh, OK.
Yeah, but I got to see what the surgery is for.
Hang on.
Let me see if I can find out.
It was because of the injury of some sort, but it was a concussion.
So he must have hurt something else.
Yeah.
I mean, that right there, that guy should be kicked out of the fucking league.
Yeah, there's no way to pretend that he wasn't aiming to hurt the guy.
I mean, it was very obvious that his intent was to hit the guy in the head with his forearm and cause him a brain injury.
Yeah.
I think the NFL needs to make a statement which way they want to go.
Let this stuff keep happening because it's exciting to see the big hits or outlaw it because it's also exciting to see really good quarterbacks.
His shoulder surgery is what he's going to have.
So he got a concussion and shoulder surgery, both.
Yeah, that's, that to me is complete bullshit.
And I think I wish that he would press assault charges like you wanted.
Anyhow, all right, we can move on from that.
I mean, everybody probably knows how we feel about that now.
So anyhow.
Yeah.
Okay.
And finally, do you like the 30-second timeout?
Should every timeout potentially be a 30-second?
For example, trying to score with 30 seconds left, all the team is doing is stopping the clock.
Why do they have to wait three minutes?
Yeah, you know, that's a good idea.
How about you get three timeouts a half?
Two of them are the full-length timeout and one's a 30-second timeout.
And you can use whichever one you want whenever you want.
You see, I like that.
And sometimes it warrants that maybe you want to talk about the play a little bit that's going to come up
and you're stopping the clock and talking about a play you're going to do.
Maybe it's a gadget play or something.
So you could use one of your regular ones, but other times it's just merely to stop the clock and that's it.
Yeah.
So I think right now the league decides on the length of the timeout so they can adjust the TV schedule.
If the game's running long or running short or whatever, it helps them get back on schedule with the network, I think.
I think it is too.
And it's never going to change, but I would love that idea because it's like, all right, OK, there they are.
They stopped the clock.
Now they're getting back in the huddle.
And then, I mean, why do we have to go somewhere else for a little bit, you know,
and they have to do something else for a little bit just to satisfy that time slot?
Yeah. Yeah. And if you've got it playing out that way, then the advertisers know.
And they'll say, hey, put our ad in one of the long timeouts or put our ad in the short timeout.
And also, if the game's on the line, that's premium ad spots.
Yeah.
They're like, look, this is the end of the game and this is Kansas City Buffalo and it's up in the air.
Everyone's going to be tuned in.
And then, oh, hey, Jake from State Farm in there.
You know, I mean, someone's going to be paying a premium price more than the other time slots
because they know that everybody is tuning in at that particular time to see who does what.
Yeah, those commercials that play during the two minute warning, those are some of the most expensive ones.
Yeah. Yeah. Because they know they have a captive audience.
So, yep. Yep. All right.
That's the end of these bullet points.
You had some stuff that you wanted to go into, so you want to go ahead?
Yeah. I was kind of interested in looking into the history of the football helmet itself.
And I found out some interesting things I didn't know before.
The college football rules in 1888 voted to allow tackling below the waist.
So players and coaches started looking for paths and they started trying to invent head protection.
And it's kind of unclear who invented it first.
There are two people who are kind of cited as inventing the first football helmet, one in 1896 and the other in 1893.
And they were kind of leather things made by harness makers.
Because at the time everyone was using horses to pull everything around.
So he had a lot of horse harness.
So he just went to someone who made the harness horses.
Horse harnesses, say that nine times.
I couldn't say that once.
Yeah. So they started catching on, but they weren't mandatory in college football until 1939.
They were still bareheaded college football players out until 1939 and they weren't mandatory in the NFL until 1943.
Wow.
You could be out there bareheaded running around on a football field.
Wow. It's hard to believe.
Yeah. But helmet technology got a boost when World War I came around.
And all of the new aviators had to have helmets.
Because air warp started being a big thing.
So they kind of adapted those to the college football game.
And by extension the NFL.
And pretty much since the beginning people have been painting on the football helmets like logos or team markings or something.
In 1948 one of the players for the Rams started painting that horn design on all of his teammates' helmets.
And it caught on so much it became the team's logo.
Okay. Yeah.
But in 1917 they came up with the kind of cradle suspension like in a hard hat where it holds the helmet above your head.
And then they just started cutting ear holes so you could have a flap covering your ear but then you could still hear.
And then in about the mid-30s the face mask was invented by a guy named Vern McMillan who made this kind of wire mask and then covered in rubber and then attached it to the football helmet.
Oh wow.
Yeah. Now the first plastic helmet came out in 1940 and was a Rydell helmet.
It was patented by John Rydell and his son.
I believe they still make helmets don't they?
Yeah they still do.
They liked that it was stronger.
It held up to the rain.
The colors could be baked into the plastic so all your paint jobs would be long lasting and would look awesome.
The origin for painting the helmets was so the quarterback could recognize his own players down the field.
Oh yeah.
So that's kind of the origin of that.
Okay I could see that definitely.
A way to identify a Meezygo. There's a red, there's a red, there's a you know.
Yeah and let's see 1955 a guy named G.E. Morgan who was a consultant to Rydell invented the radio in the quarterback's helmet.
1955 they invented that.
Wow.
Where they could talk to the quarterback but it wasn't legal in the NFL until 1994.
They had it since 1955 and they didn't let him use it until 1994.
Yep.
That's insane.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
So let's see then in 71 they started getting the energy absorbing helmets.
So you put padding in and inflatable bags and then you put the helmet on and you inflate different parts of with air or water or antifreeze or something.
So it conforms like exactly to your head.
And that was pretty popular. I really don't see that really used anymore.
You still see the players run to the sideline to get air put in their helmets.
Yeah.
The web suspension is really getting more of the attention.
Because you don't have to just sit you can set it and forget it.
In late 1976 the four point chin strap was required in college.
And then in the 80s and 90s they switched from plastic to polycarbonate helmet and final coated steel face masks.
2002 they came up with the Revo helmet revolution helmet.
And that one was designed to reduce the actual brain injury.
And they made improvements to it in 2013.
And that's kind of where my article runs out is in 2013 that they started claiming that their Rydell helmets were reducing concussions by 31 percent.
But that was disputed by another study that said no it really doesn't show anything that's just kind of within the margin of error.
So it's still up in the air whether these new helmet designs do anything to prevent concussions.
It's probably more the rule changes that they put in place.
I would think so too. Yeah.
Especially for quarterbacks. And I agree with them. I'm not downed them at all.
I think that you know these guys are your bread and butter and you do need to protect them.
Have you ever seen a helmet fracture during a game?
Yes.
Yeah I remember seeing that a few times too. That was pretty wild.
Last year Mahomes'
They pretty much have that taken care of.
But yeah I remember some pro and college games they'd do a hit and just chunk the helmet would fly.
It was crazy.
Mahomes did last year. Remember that?
Oh you're right.
Yeah a big old hole in it.
Yeah.
Yeah that was weird. It's like jeez it just came apart that easily. I mean it wasn't that big of a hit.
But it just I guess hit it just right. It took a big old hole in it.
And then because it was the communication one, the captain's one right.
They had a hell of a time replacing it on the spot. They're all looking around going shit do we have another one?
Yep.
You remember that? They're like looking all over.
They had to yank out the communications array from the broken helmet and stuff in his backup helmet.
I believe that's what they did. They couldn't just go get another helmet and go okay here's another captain's helmet.
No it's like it was like take the innards out of there and put it in his backup.
You know since a chunk of his helmet flew off it was obviously helmet to helmet contact. Did they throw a flag on that?
I don't believe they did.
I don't think so either.
No.
Obviously he got hit in the helmet with another helmet.
So unless it was like one of those accidental things where he was blocked into him or something.
I'm kind of wondering why they didn't jump right on that.
You know what you're right. I didn't even give it a second thought on that but it had to have been.
Yeah it didn't just like a chunk didn't fall out of it just because he got you know he got a regular tackle.
That had to have been helmet to helmet. You're right.
Yeah.
I'll have to look that up.
That's the only thing strong enough to break that helmet is another helmet.
Yeah you're right. Huh that's interesting.
So yeah it probably happened.
We'll look it up on YouTube and watch the video and see what happens.
Yeah but wait a minute I thought the referees were protecting us.
Oh yeah well maybe the check didn't clear that week.
I guess not. I guess no no.
Now now Detroit's getting the motherfucking.
I've seen several things on the internet now where they showed like these egregious fouls last night against Green Bay.
And some of them look like it but it's still so I can't really tell.
But they're saying holding it does look like the guy's holding.
They're saying a horse collar and the guy did have him around the neck.
But I mean you'd have to see it in real time to decide it right.
Yeah pretty much.
Yeah so it looked like it but it may not have been.
But the whole point is is now they're saying oh Detroit's getting the rub.
Detroit at Detroit's the babies they're the ones.
Wow.
Yeah I mean how quickly they forgot about us.
We play a couple of close games and all of a sudden we're not sexy anymore.
Yeah.
So.
I am starting to hear a lot of people on the radio talking about a Chiefs Lions Super Bowl.
Yeah I mean look that's very presumptuous on the Chiefs part because of the way that we're playing.
The Lions yes but I will like I always said and like Tom Brady has always said.
If anyone's going to do that it's going to be the Chiefs.
If anyone's going to do the three Pete it's the Chiefs.
If anyone's going to beat people on the road it's the Chiefs and he's right.
Yeah.
But I'm still not convinced.
I'm going to have to see how DJ Humphries plays.
I'm going to see how Worthy progresses.
I'm going to see how they're going to incorporate more of Hopkins.
Pacheco.
Menahew is going to help the defense greatly and how they're going to try to cover the other side which is not.
The other side of the secondary which is not really living up to his performance obviously because of injuries you know like Jalen Watson.
But I'm waiting for Spagnolo to scheme around this good enough to kind of repair it.
But you also said this I think yesterday and you're right.
They haven't been given up a whole lot of points.
They did the Buffalo 30 points or 31 but other than that there is in Buffalo that happens.
I mean they got a great offense but anyhow that game was close the whole time.
So we're not exactly like just like like if what's his name the guy before Spagnolo that they got rid of shit defensive coordinator.
I can't even remember his name.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's not like defense that bad.
Yeah.
But you know it's interesting doesn't the NFL usually unveil its Super Bowl logo at midseason.
That's what I thought.
I have not seen one.
Let me see if I can get it.
I'm wondering if I did you know what the colors are on the logo to see if the predictive colors they didn't hit it last year.
They said is Baltimore.
Yeah it's kind of odd I'd never heard anything about the Super Bowl logo for this this year and that is a half half season thing.
Traditionally trot that out so you can start buying your merchandise.
It is suspiciously like last year's only a little bit less bluish.
Now wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute.
Hang on.
This is Las Vegas.
Okay forget it forget it.
That is not it.
It was a click bait.
Yeah.
I don't think they've unveiled it.
I think you're right.
Interesting.
They figured last season it was too early and they got the colors wrong.
They're going to wait a little later.
Yeah they projected Baltimore to wins or like hey put purple up there.
They'll take the colors of the top six or seven teams and then come up with some kind of compromised colors where you can say oh look this color could be that team or that team or that team.
Yeah.
So that way they can kind of hedge their bets and whatever happens they'll they'll look like they predicted it.
Well I mean two of two of the Super Bowls were by red and gold teams in the last five years.
I mean they faced off against each other.
So I mean yeah.
Yeah.
So anyhow like the red on last year's logo.
Everyone said San Francisco.
How they know they didn't mean the Chiefs.
Yeah.
Or Washington or Atlanta.
Yeah.
Yeah that's true.
So anyhow.
You know this is why the NFL is so successful because people bother to come up with conspiracy theories.
You don't hear that about baseball you don't hear that about soccer you don't hear that about anybody except the NFL.
I'm sure there's a number of people employed by the NFL whose job it is to start conspiracy theories about the NFL.
Yeah I'm sure there is too.
I mean it's just like the good old now McDonald's is bringing back the chicken snack wrap.
Right.
Yeah they said is because of an online overwhelming online.
What would you call it petition.
And they showed it they showed it all the names or you know not all the names but the number of people like it's like it well up in the hundred thousands.
And they said well because they you know we got all this interest in it and everything.
And I'm thinking bullshit you guys started it.
Yeah.
Just because they said they had all that interest doesn't mean it's true because who checks up on them.
Yeah yeah I know I mean that's what I was thinking is like and then the baby the baby bird into the American public began they had their mouth open and they're going to spit it in their mouth and they're chewing it up and eating it up.
So the important thing is to remember you know am I just taking their word for it.
Did anyone check on this.
And number two if they're lying to me is there really any consequence.
And in this case no no.
And also it's no harm for lying.
So why not lie.
What.
What is the advantage for them doing that.
And number three publicity.
Yeah.
You got to remember these people don't like us.
They're trying to get our money.
Yeah yeah yep that's right.
They're not our buddies.
They're not our buddies if they were our buddies they'd be like and I don't know if McDonald's does this or not and all this is is allegedly of course but nitrates in the food.
They'd be like no no we like these guys don't do that.
I'm not just talking about any I'm talking about all industry.
I mean if they gave a shit about us they'd be like oh doesn't that FTC red cause cancer.
You know or we think it does.
It's a carcinogen of some sort and they'd be like what what what are you doing trying to put that in there.
You know we like these people.
You know I'm pretty sure you never hear that.
Yeah.
You get the good old well how much will we make this much how much legal fees this much how much payout this much.
OK let's do it.
Yeah.
Pretty much it right there.
So.
Allegedly McDonald's is so successful and so great.
How come that one down the road from us shut down.
That one that's halfway between your house and my house.
Yes it's shut down.
I know.
I drove by it today and the parking lot got a chain across it so you can't pull in.
Yeah that's because there's people sitting out there.
When I came home just people out there like I don't know six or seven people with all their lights off just sitting there gathered around talking or something.
And I was like the employees that didn't know that it was shutting down.
Oh that could have been.
That could have been.
And the thing is is they seem to have plenty of business it might have been inside theft and out and outside that there's something like that.
I don't know.
But yeah that McDonald's is gone.
They bailed.
It's going to be interesting to see what goes in there.
I'm going to guess that they were so far out of health and safety inspection.
It would have cost them too much to fix everything.
So they just shut down.
That could be.
Well I told this story to Rob on the other one.
But you know the McRib.
They brought it back.
They said they wasn't going to the RIP McRib.
No no no better go get it now.
Never going to see it again.
And then of course everybody wants it.
So we bring it back.
Well their new gimmick was they're selling half gallon jugs of the sauce right.
So I go by there and I find out that it wasn't on sale till November 20th.
And there is a special website.
Excuse me.
There is a special website just for the McRib sauce to buy it.
So I got on there really quick when it started up.
It was sold out.
So there could not have been too many.
So they said it was available.
And all the proceeds went to the Ronald McDonald House.
Is what they said.
So I'd like to know how.
Heaven forbid they pay more than 20% to the charity that their name all over.
We have to pay the other 80%.
I know.
Allegedly or whatever.
Anyhow let's see what was I going to say now.
So do you think they really had any.
Have you seen anybody that actually got a jug.
No that's what Rob said.
Did it really happen.
That's interesting.
That's what Rob said too.
He goes are you sure they had any.
I'm like well I don't know.
I said there's no some.
Nobody coming by and going hey where's the McRib sauce at.
Oh it's all over there.
OK good good.
And then walking off.
You know I mean you're right.
We're taking their word for it.
And no I do not know.
In a marketing meeting at McDonald's somebody says hey maybe we can sell jugs of McRib sauce and people will buy it.
And then someone says hey I've got a great idea how we can test it.
Let's pretend that we're selling some and see how many people try to buy it.
And if it's enough people trying to buy it then we'll start making actually sell it to them.
That could be.
It's a way to make it make sure it's a sure thing before they even make one drop of the sauce.
That's a good point.
I am seeing in the 70s and 80s when the radio would play a song and they would purposely not tell you who did the song.
So you would call in to try to find out.
Yeah.
Because they are trying to generate lots of call in traffic to make their numbers look better.
It's a thing.
You know they're just using us to have a test market to see what they want to do.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah that's true.
And yeah there's so many other things along those lines that happen all the time.
Something like that could have happened very easily.
Or I mean I guess legally maybe they could have one jug.
Yeah.
Or 50 or something.
And they're like well you know we got this much hits and if it wasn't that well received then you're right.
OK we're not going to do it.
But it was pretty disappointing because I had a plan for that.
I like the McRib sauce.
I think it's really good.
I don't like that piece of whatever the fuck it is.
But the sauce is really good.
I was going to get a bottle of that sauce and use it on things you know meat and stuff.
And then I was going to fill it full of ketchup and then close it back up and put it on my wall in here.
Oh I was already.
I'm like what a great idea.
I get to use all the sauce and it looks like it's a full jug.
But I couldn't get it.
That's awesome.
I know.
You have to make sure you can recreate the seal.
You know the seal for your protection thing.
Yeah that's what I was going to do.
You know there's ways you can do that being really careful.
And I was going to do that but no sauce no sauce.
I mean I jumped on there about when it started.
And when they started selling it and it was already sold out.
So that tells me something was going on.
Did they ever show a picture of what it was going to look like?
Yeah they did.
It's on that website.
The website is like buy McRib sauce something.
You can probably tell me looking at that picture you could dummy up one and show it to everyone.
Look see I got one.
Hang on let's see.
You'll have to edit this part out of the podcast.
Yeah that's no problem.
Let's see here.
Oh shit I think they might have pulled the website because I can't even find the...
Oh here it is.
Whole lot of McRibsauce.com.
Let's see if it's still there.
Or you can do a Google image search of McRibsauce bottle.
Yeah.
Okay here we go.
I found it.
There it is.
Yep sold out.
Yep yep yep yep.
Okay yeah.
Complete bullshit.
My opinion.
So now they have a different webpage up where instead of saying oh no it looked like you
just missed out it's just like sold out and has a picture of the McRibsauce.
Yeah I wouldn't think it would be too tough to fake that label.
No I don't think so either.
It's like a regular old plastic white plastic jug with a white cap on it.
It is.
Yeah I think you'd be able to fake up that label and make your own.
You know what you're right and I'll make my own.
Oh wow now they're selling it on eBay.
And you know half of those are well 75% of those are counterfeit.
Oh yeah yeah you know that damn well it is.
Okay.
You're probably filled with like bloody diarrhea or something.
Fentanyl.
Oh yeah yeah.
And radioactive waste.
Yeah yeah yeah it was sent from China so it's full of radioactive waste.
Okay.
Oh they have a copycat McRib sandwich here.
Let's look at that.
I know we're not on sports right now.
Okay oh it tells you how you can make your own McRib that tastes just like one at home.
Reverse engineer the sauce.
Yeah it's right here.
It's Top Secret Recipes is the name of it.
Oh and All Recipes has it too.
This one's called Chef John's Copycat McRib Sandwich Recipe.
Hmm.
Alright.
So I guess.
I heard something interesting about vegetarian hot dogs today.
Oh yeah.
Two thirds of all vegetarian hot dogs tested contained human DNA.
Oh.
Yeah.
Significant enough that they can find it so that means human tissue is in there.
Oh now what do you think how did that happen.
What's your opinion.
Medical waste.
Oh.
Just sterilize it.
Stick it in there.
You're right.
Oh man.
Isn't that awful.
Yeah it is.
They said two percent of all hot dogs have human DNA in it.
But 67 percent of vegetarian hot dogs do.
So they're not.
67 percent.
They're not vegetarian then.
Yeah.
And they said apart from the human DNA 10 percent of all vegetarian hot dogs contain meat in measurable quantities.
Wow.
So you know again you look at the packages and it says all vegetables you're just taking their word for it aren't you.
Yep.
It turns out we really can't believe most of these companies.
Now I see how they're doing the McRib is you have to smoke the ribs and then you have to cut the meat away from the bone and grind it and put it together in a patty.
It says grinding smoke rib meat together with salted pork shoulder creates patties with smoke flavor built right into them.
And then if you grill the patties.
That's like a lot of work I guess.
I'm not going through all that.
I'll just eat some ribs.
How about that.
You know.
I've got a sausage grinder and it works pretty well but you got to have some arms cranked.
Oh one of those.
Those crank ones.
Yeah those crank ones.
The ones that clamp to the edge of the table.
Yeah.
Yep.
The ones that they used to use on the farm.
Yep.
Wow.
I bought it at Cabela's I think.
That sucker works great.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's cool.
I mean I ought to put one of those in for the post apocalypse survival tips.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Sausage grinder would come in handy.
Yeah that would.
The other day I put some beef stew meat through it.
Yeah.
To make hamburger patties.
That worked out pretty good.
Great.
You put it through once on the coarse wheel.
Then you season it.
Then you put it through again on the finer wheel.
And it comes out looking just like regular spaghetti.
I mean not spaghetti.
Hamburger.
Wow.
Like spaghetti with meat.
So you can make your own ground sirloin or whatever.
Yeah.
That's a good idea.
I like that.
You can grind nuts with it.
I've ground cranberries with it for the cranberry relish.
Uh huh.
You can put all sorts of stuff through that thing.
That's a great idea.
I mean sausages.
It's got an attachment for putting sausages in the casing.
It's awesome.
Wow.
I ought to look into getting a sausage grinder because I've often wanted to mix my own meats
together and make my own hamburger patties because I would like to take certain pork
cuts and certain beef cuts and put them together for better flavor.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah it is.
And then you know once you've got all the meat ground up you'll have the skin left
over and you can make a football out of it.
Yay!
And that's where the name the pig skin came from because that's what it's made of.
Actually it wasn't, it's not really made out of pig skin so much.
It's cow leather.
But a few of them were made out of pig skin so they just got the name.
Oh so it wasn't all of them.
And all this is before.
Now they have other ways of doing it.
I didn't know that.
Okay.
Yeah.
And you know sometimes for the internal bladder that they would inflate with air, sometimes
that was actually taken from a pig like it would be the pig stomach and they would use
that as the inflatable bladder inside.
So there was pig parts to it.
Okay and so it just became like pig skin.
They don't care if it contained 2% or whatever.
It was still pig skin.
And it sounds good.
Cow skin doesn't sound good.
Hey let's bring out the old cow skin.
You mean leather?
It's a buzzword isn't it?
It is.
Cow skin's leather so why would you just say bring out the leather.
No, no, no, pig skin.
So alright.
There's a guy named Richard Linden who was a shoemaker and he invented these inflatable
balls.
And they were pretty much like flung shaped which was a lot easier to carry because there
was no forward passing in football then.
And they would even make white ones for night games.
It wasn't until 34 that they started changing the shape of the football to be tapered at
the ends and skinnier in the middle.
So it's a lot easier to handle and a lot easier to pass.
And at the same time it made the drop kick pretty unreliable.
Remember what the drop kick was?
Yeah, actually you know this, the oddest place, that's my first one I was going to go into.
Doug Flutie's drop kick.
Yep, I have seen one drop kick in my entire life and that was a long time ago.
Okay do you want to hear about this drop kick?
These are like the top 10 oddest plays in football ever.
Okay this one's the drop kick.
In 2005, Patriots backup quarterback Doug Flutie made headlines when he successfully
pulled off a drop kick for the first time since 1941.
The drop kick is successful when the quarterback drops the ball, lets it bounce off the ground,
kicks it, and then the ball is thrown to the ground.
The ball drops the ball, lets it bounce off the ground, kicks it, and gets it through
the goal post for an extra point.
It's still in the NFL rule book today but it hasn't been done since Flutie pulled it
off against the Miami Dolphins.
The Dolphins won regardless of Flutie's cool move.
They had the going, so yeah.
That was funny you said that because that is the first one of the oddest plays.
For some reason I remember the drop kick being two points.
I think it was one point.
Hang on, did it say one point?
Yeah it said for the extra point.
Yeah it did didn't it?
Okay I thought it was two points too.
Yeah I remember reading about the drop kick that any player at any time could attempt
a drop kick from anywhere on the field and if you made it through goal post it was two
points.
That's what I thought too.
So if you're about to get tackled and you weren't going to make the first down, hell
try a drop kick.
Yeah and Doug Flutie is the last one to do it in 1994 with the Patriots against the Dolphins.
Interesting because I don't remember that one at all.
Let me see here, the two point safety.
While you're looking that up, from 41 to 69 and then again from 2006 on the official game
ball for the NFL has been stamped with the nickname the Duke.
Remember those footballs called the Duke?
That was Wellington Marra, long time owner of the New York Giants.
Oh okay.
That is his nickname.
So that's why those footballs have the Duke on there, it's for Wellington Marra.
I'll be damned I didn't know that.
I didn't think it would be John Wayne but one never knew.
Okay here's what it says, in American football a safety is a two point scoring play that
occurs when the defense or special teams cause the offense to commit a foul, fumble or be
tackled in their own end zone.
It does exist.
I did a report on it and it hasn't been done in modern football.
It hasn't been done AFC, NFC but it was done a long time ago in just the NFC that was football.
Yeah.
Or was it the NFC?
Yeah.
Was it just the NFC or was it the NFL and then when they joined together they became
the AFC and NFC, whatever it is.
Yeah.
It was the NFL and the AFL and then when they merged they stayed the NFL and they just had
two conferences, AFC and NFC.
Yeah okay.
Well the old NFL name was a lot better brand than the AFL name was at the time so they
stuck with the better brand name.
Yeah.
Yep.
Okay.
And then it went on and said foul, the offense commits a penalty in their own end zone, fumble,
the offense fumbles the ball out of their own end zone, tackle.
The defense tackles an offensive player with the ball behind their own goal line.
After a safety.
After a safety the team that scored the safety kicks off from the 20 yard line.
The team that was scored upon must put the ball in play with a free kick such as a punt,
drop kick or place kick.
Although safeties are worth relatively few points they can have a significant impact
on the outcome of a game.
As I understand it it's also a free kick which means the kicking team can recover it.
Yes, yeah that's exactly what it just said.
Oh I guess, okay, I didn't clarify that.
A free kick means either one is open game.
Yeah.
And does it have to go 10 yards is what I want to know.
I really don't know.
That'd be a good thing to figure out.
Here let's look it up.
Let's see.
Does the free kick in football, you can make goat noises that's what I do whenever Rob looks up something.
I can't find it.
I'll continue talking about football.
When the AFL was playing they used white footballs for their night games.
And I think the last white football used in the NFL was, no I can't find it.
And have you noticed that some college football had the white stripe around the end?
They only used that in the NFL for one year.
Oh okay, hey get this.
It has to cross the 50 yard line into the other territory.
Ah, okay.
Yeah so it's not even 10 yards.
I mean it's more than 10 yards probably, but it's not 10 yards.
It's over to the other side is where it's got to go.
Anyhow, sorry go ahead.
Yeah that makes it so you have to kick it pretty darn high to run under it.
Yeah so it's not going to be easy for the team kicking it to recover it I think is why they did that.
Well let me backtrack on something.
I said the striker ball was only used for one year in the NFL.
It was only used in one Super Bowl.
And that was Super Bowl VIII.
But up until 1975 they used the balls with the white stripes on night games or late afternoon games or in overcast weather.
Just to make the ball a little more easy to see for the people in the stands and for the players.
Oh and that's why they did the stripes for a while?
Uh huh, plus they were easier for the TV cameras to pick up.
Yeah that's true.
The white stripes were slippery so after 1975 they got rid of them.
Okay wow because I remember growing up they definitely had the white stripes on them and now no.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact the old logos, whenever they do the retro logos like I think it's the Jets,
they have a football with the white stripes on it on their helmet.
Yeah, yeah.
So okay, wow.
In the current regulations for the football, the home team must have 36 balls for an outdoor game or 24 for an indoor game.
And they must be available for the referee to test with an air pressure gauge two and a half hours before the game to keep players from cheating.
Thank you Tom Brady and Bill Belichick.
Yep.
And then they get 12 brand new footballs sealed in a special box and shipped by the manufacturer and they're opened by the officials in the locker room
two hours and 15 minutes before the game and these are the kicking balls and they're marked with a K and they're used exclusively for the kicking game.
Okay.
And now the visiting team also can bring has to bring 12 balls. Well they don't have to but they may for outdoor games for inspection.
Wow. Okay so on that whole deflate gate, someone had to be deflating them and bringing them on the field right?
Yeah. So in that two hours and 15 minutes between the time they were tested in game time, somebody was deflating them. Somebody had access and was deflating them.
But only deflated them for the Patriots not the opposing team.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then what was the last thing here?
Let's see.
Now I've lost it now.
Oh damn it.
So yeah regulations for the footballs and then they say.
All right. And then there was the Minnesota Vikings kicker Fred Cox developed the all polyurethane foam football which he sold to the Nerf company.
And they later marketed with the as the Vortex football, which had the little torpedo tail fins.
Oh wow. So the original Nerf football wasn't even the one that we know of.
Yep.
So the foam footballs, they can be thrown a much greater distance than a traditional football because they're lighter, but they're basically useless for kicking.
Uh huh.
Wow.
Oh I remember the thing I forgot. So you've got these footballs that are specially designed just for the kicking game.
So when a team goes out there and runs a fake field goal, which ball do they take out there with them?
Oh.
A kicking ball, in which case they shouldn't be allowed to fake a field goal.
Or a regular ball, which would tip off the other team that they're not going to kick the field goal.
Or do they just let it slide and say oh well whatever.
That's an interesting.
Do they take a kicking ball knowing they're not going to punt it?
That's a good, I don't know.
I'd like to know that.
Yeah I just kind of thought that was an interesting thing to bring up.
It is.
You know I've got to believe that some team somewhere has figured out a way to get an advantage out of using a kicking ball to throw a pass.
It's like we'll go out there and fake the kick so we'll have the kicking ball and then they'll get some advantage out of it somehow. Somebody's trying to work on that.
Yeah you know they are.
Well that was my story about the origin of football.
That's pretty cool man. Thank you.
Okay do you want me to go through some of the oddest plays ever? A few of them?
Yes.
Okay.
Alright.
Okay.
It's still in the NFL rule book.
Oh no wait hang on hang on.
Do you ever hear about the coin toss loss?
No.
The coin toss is a recognizable part of any NFL game.
The beginning of the first quarter or the beginning of overtime.
But did you know that it's possible for a team to automatically lose the coin toss?
No.
I didn't either.
That's right if a team fails to get their players on the field in time to observe the coin toss their team technically forfeits the coin toss and the opposing team wins the right to choose if they'll kick off or receive the fair catch kick.
If a receiving player.
Wow.
Yeah isn't that something.
And if a receiving player calls for a fair catch after a kickoff or punt they actually have more options than you think.
They can do a fair catch kick.
A fair catch kick is when a receiver calls for a fair catch that attempts to kick the ball through the goal post for three points.
It can be either a place kick or a drop kick but it has to be from the point of the catch.
This is a this was last attempted by the 49ers in 2013 but hasn't been done successfully since 1976 by Ray Wershings.
Wershings.
Oh yeah I remember Ray Wershing.
Yeah.
I remember those plays if that was the thing you would do at the end of the game if you didn't have any timeouts.
Yeah.
You do a fair catch on the kick and then immediately trot out your field goal team.
Yeah and they don't do that any. Yeah.
They don't do that anymore but you're right they did back then.
Yeah.
Okay so anyhow you'd be lucky to see this in action as it is most definitely one of the strangest kicks.
You know one of the strangest plays in football.
Yeah.
So.
And I think isn't it that there doesn't even have to be any time left on the clock.
No. No that's.
Like an untimed play because if you fair catch it and run out of time during the kick and you fair catch you still get to run out your kicking team.
Yes.
You're right. Yep.
Yeah.
It gives you an extra play.
Yeah it can be zero.
It has to be a kick.
Yeah it has to be the kick and it can read zero zero zero technically I mean just that's just the way it is so.
Yeah.
Me.
Rule fielding kicks out of bounds.
If a kickoff ends up out of bounds before a player touches it the receiving team defaults to the 40 yard line.
That's all fine and dandy but if you know what they changed that didn't they.
Or is it still the 40 yard line.
It's.
It used to be a certain certain number of yards from where it was kicked or if the ball rolled it out of bounds sooner then the team could take it in the more advantageous spot.
Okay.
So that's all fine and dandy but if a player steps out of bounds and then touches the ball while it's still live and on the field the ball is considered out of bounds as well.
I think we knew that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay why would a player do that it would turn out it might have been an excellent kickoff into a terrible one that went out of bounds.
The receiving team comes out with a ball on the 40 and we're all left scratching our heads Packers running back Ty Montgomery pulled this one off in 2016 against the Lions too much confusion.
On and on the NFL fielding kicks out of bounds if a kickoff ends up out of bounds before a player touches it.
The receiving team defaults to the 40 yard line.
Okay you know what it repeated I'm sorry I had no time to proofread this stuff I told you.
And yeah it's every time I think I remember that one too.
Yeah.
Yep.
It was it was the they were kicking off to the Packers.
Yes Packers player ran up and caught it partly out of bounds.
And the ruling was well if he caught it out of bounds then the kick was going out of bounds.
So we're going to treat it like a kick out of bounds and put him at 40.
So that automatically got them a good much better field position they didn't have to run the ball back.
Yeah.
Yep.
I think that was the reason they gave as well if he caught it out of bounds or standing out of bounds then obviously the kick was going out of bounds.
Yeah.
Yep.
Okay.
Yeah.
But I do remember that.
I know I remember it a little bit because there is somewhat of a hubbub about it.
Yeah I think they had to huddle on the field for a while and the officials didn't have to figure out what exactly was going on.
Yeah.
The rest of it is obvious stuff so I'm not even going to go into it.
And and like I said that article is a couple of years old and they changed some of those rules about kicking off and all that.
So it doesn't really pertain.
So I'm going to go ahead and skip over the last two because it doesn't really matter.
So I was always curious about the rules for kicking out of bounds during an onside kick because I've seen that happen where it goes out of bounds before it goes 10 yards and they just have to re-kick it.
That's you know what that's a good point.
Let's see.
Let's see onside kick.
Onside kick out of bounds.
Okay.
If an onside kick goes out of bounds the receiving team will typically gain possession of the ball at the spot where it went out of bounds usually near the 40 yard line.
As it is considered a kick off out of bounds and not a successful onside kick attempt.
This means the kicking team is penalized for the out of bounds kick and the receiving team gets the ball at a more advantageous position.
So it says here key points about onside kicks and out of bounds.
The new NFL rules under recent rule changes if an onside kick goes beyond the designated set up zone untouched the kicking team is penalized and the receiving team will start their drive at the 20 yard line.
Intention to onside kick.
Teams must declare their intention to attempt an onside kick usually only allowed in the fourth quarter when trailing.
Yep.
Yeah we knew that.
And no surprise onside kicks which is part of the new rules.
The new kick off rules make it difficult to attempt a surprise onside kick as the ball must reach the receiving team's 20 yard line to be considered in play.
So I guess what that means is they get penalized.
Yeah.
But I do remember in the past they must have changed the rules but I do remember in the past seeing a team try an onside kick like two or three times and they kept kicking it out of bounds before it went even 10 yards.
And they just let them keep kicking it over and over.
Really.
And I remember thinking this is weird.
Why are they doing it?
But I believe they've made changes to the rulebook since then.
Yeah I mean what was it last year when they started going with Dick and with the kick off rules.
Yeah.
Yeah a lot of that changed a lot of it but they've been tweaking it off and on for a long time now.
So the biggest thing why they changed the rules on this recently on the kick offs is because they don't want people getting hurt they don't want players getting hurt because it's designed so they don't have that much running time to go annihilate somebody.
Yeah.
I guess so. Yep. Pretty interesting. So. All right. Let's see I'm trying to think of something else. Did I get anything else.
Like I said you know I was out of town and I didn't get a lot of chance to pay attention to some of this stuff. And I'm kind of disorganized and I apologize.
I thought I had more sports stuff but I can't find any right now. You got anything you want to go into.
Oh that was all the sports stuff I had but I did write down some would you rather questions.
That sounds great.
All right.
I think I have seven of them.
Okay.
All right. The first one.
Would you rather spend a weekend in a cabin with no electronics but with all the women of the view.
Or would you rather clean cat vomit from a crack hose couch cat vomit from a crack hose house.
Definitely definitely definitely.
Yeah, I could not stand those cackling hens for one minute. I go insane.
I keep waiting for all those celebrities to start leaving the country. But so far they haven't.
Yeah, I know. It's funny because they were so convinced that their woman was going to win that it allowed them to puff out their chest and go well if Trump wins I'm going to move and well he won and they're not moving.
So yeah.
And they said that in 2016 when Trump was running against Hillary. Yeah, I think people would learn their lesson to quit boasting about things they have no intention of doing but no no no you know what they don't care they're used to doing what they want with no repercussions
anyhow.
If I was Trump I would send them all a moving van.
Yeah, I would say so. Yeah.
So here you go. Bye.
So,
all right, the next. Would you rather see every new pop star in concert for a year, or have bloody diarrhea for a week.
Pop star in concert and here's why. Because I think I could watch jelly roll, maybe. Yeah, and it would be neat just to say yes I did go to Taylor Swift concert.
Yeah, yeah that was that one. It depends on how much you dislike the pop star. Well, concert, the image and the music and all that kind of stuff. So, mine is mine is I wouldn't actually enjoy it I think like someone like jelly roll I would find intriguing.
Yeah.
And then, Taylor Swift just to see what her whole show is about.
Not because I think I like her music or think she's a great entertainer anything, but I just want to see what appeals to all these people.
Yeah.
Now if you're talking about some of the other acts that I can't stand then I, you know, maybe not. So,
but like if it's like stuff like that like I get to pick out a jelly roll or a Taylor Swift or something like that, I guess I could do that. Yeah. So, what about you.
So, would you rather watch the last 10 Jersey Shore episodes and interview everyone on the cast or, or provide meals on wheels to registered sex offenders. Oh, okay, okay, I got your answer.
Can I make the food.
Can you go. Yeah. Okay.
The registered sex offenders because there's not going to be stuff in there they like.
How did that ball bearing get in there. Huh.
Oops.
I don't know how all of those got in there that loop run I have no idea.
Well, sorry about your testes but well you know what you don't need them anyhow because you're, you've been.
You've been proven not trustworthy with testicles so.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to be one that's interesting.
Would you rather let some random person pick all the music you get to listen to for the next six months, or let them pick all the TV you get to watch for the next six months.
Because if I don't like it I have too much other things to do. If I get there and I'm just like, Oh, okay, well, it's nothing good on and there's nothing I can do about it so I'm going to go, I don't know go out and do something in the garage go try to learn the
guitar or something and Davey told me how to do the Floyd Rose to tremolo, and I think you and I could tackle it.
Yeah, yeah he used to do it all the time he worked at several music stores, and someone showed him they said oh yeah yeah they said it's easy. So, we'll get into that later I just thought I forgot to tell you that the other day, because you volunteered to help me
with it. Well there is a way to do it it turns out that there is a way that that is recommended to do it so anyhow.
But yeah, I would rather have TV that way I could just leave and do something I needed to do.
All right. Here's the next one. Would you rather pay double the taxes, you're currently paying, and in exchange get absolutely free health care for life, or would you rather pay absolutely no taxes for the rest of your life, but you have to pay for all of your
health care out of your pocket.
Double the taxes because what if something castors
catastrophic happens.
Yeah, yeah long transplant is about 2 million bucks. Yeah, I would, I would die. I would not get.
Yeah, so I could probably get by paying double taxes it would suck. But if something went wrong. All right, hey, I've been paying double taxes fix me up bitch.
You know and I think the majority of people would agree, as long as the free health care is good and decent health care and we don't have to wait six months to see a doctor. Exactly. And also another thing is you would be paying more than that probably on health care premiums if it's just you taking care of them.
Yeah. So yeah.
Okay, these are good. I like these.
So here's my last one. Okay, would you rather write produce and host a podcast that is all about people's pronouns and all possible genders or non gender.
Yeah.
Or, would you rather just ignore it and mind your own business. Ignore it in my own business.
Yeah.
I mean, I work with some people that are pronouns and everything and they're lovely people they're very nice to me and I love them to death.
Did you really sit down and listen to all that garbage that was being, do you actually believe one inch of it. I didn't think so. Hang on, game over.