Recorded live from the historic River Market area in downtown Kansas City proper near the banks of the crystal blue waters of the Missouri River, we give you the Sports Baskets.
Anybody wonder what these two dullards look like? Yeah, me neither.
Kick him your ass with size 15 clown boots and a dick Tracy hat.
If I put him in one vial I can do that. Okay. We're good. Okay.
Alright, are we on? We're on. It was just being picky about what keystrokes I had to do the exact right keystrokes.
I think your computer is a Cincinnati fan. I think it is. It's really starting to cause me some troubles.
Yeah, it's like I don't like your guys' assessment of my team so fuck you.
Yeah, I mean we didn't want to record first. We had to finesse it into actually recording for us.
Oh, no, it's a Cowboys fan. That explains it.
You know, Mike McCarthy, they were going to put a fork in Dallas Cowboys but it turns out he was using it to stress him.
Oh, let's get a team merger. The Los Dallas Raid Boys. The Raid Boys.
It works for me. The Los Dallas Raid Boys. They'll play half their home games in Dallas and half in Vegas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go. I'm sure they're on that.
Alright, well, I guess we're going to do some more predictions and I'm going to try to do a little bit better.
We'll see. I'm going to quit going through these crazy upsets and try to be serious.
Alright, what we got for week 12, the teams on the bye week are Buffalo, the Jets, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, Atlanta, and New Orleans.
We're all on bye. That's a lot on a bye week. Six on a bye week, so we only have 13 games.
Okay, wow. First up, the Thursday night game, Pittsburgh at Cleveland. Pittsburgh's 8-2, Cleveland's 2-8.
Pittsburgh. Yeah, and there's not a lot of mystery here.
I was trying to think of something to add to it, but I've got nothing.
No, I think Pittsburgh will do better offensively than they did against Baltimore.
Yeah, I know it's not going to be just six field goals. No, it's going to be more probably a couple of touchdowns.
I'm going to say Pittsburgh 28-10. That's exactly what I picked, 28-10. That's amazing.
I'm going to switch to Penn. This pencil was freaking out. Well, you don't want to give Pittsburgh too many points.
You don't want to give too many points either.
Yeah, Pittsburgh's one of those teams that when they're comfortably ahead, they kind of take their foot off the gas because they know they can get it back when they need it.
They're playing conservatively because they don't want to give up the football. I get it.
I mean, Mike Tomlin's a great coach, and he knows what he's doing, and it's been winning. He's 8-2.
Yeah, once Pittsburgh gets up by a couple of scores, they're going to pull back. It's not going to be a big blowout.
Don't you hate it when the lead in the pencil is off center, and every time you sharpen it, you've got this sheath of wood up one side, and you just can't write with it?
Oh yeah, that's bullshit.
I will never buy cheap-ass pencils again. Office Max brand pencil.
Oh, there you go.
It's the garbage. It's firewood now.
Firewood.
Okay, first of the noon games, 2-8 Tennessee at 7-4 Houston.
Houston? I'm going to go 35.
You put up a lot on Dallas, that's for sure.
10.
35-10. I'm going to go 24-17.
Wow. Okay.
I don't know why. I think it's their division rivals, I guess.
We can do the points whatever we want. All that counts is the win or not.
Yeah, but sometimes we talk about how close we got.
Yeah, you're right. We'll see.
Yeah. All right, 8-2 Minnesota at 4-6 Chicago.
Minnesota? Chicago is just, I thought at some point they'd come roaring back and put up some noise. I've not seen anything.
I'm going to say again, 24-10.
Yeah, I think Minnesota is going to win also.
27-13.
All right. Cool. We're pretty similar on all that.
We've got to start disagreeing about some of these.
I know.
This one isn't going to be it. 3-7 Dallas at 7-4 Washington.
You know Washington is going to just enjoy pounding Dallas.
Oh yeah. Okay, Washington, but not as high a score as people would think. I think it's going to be a 24-14.
I'm going 30-13.
All right.
I think Washington is just going to step on the gas and say, we're paying you back, bro.
All the times you knocked us out of the playoffs.
I can see it going like that, but I'm going by there's such rivals that Dallas is going to put up somewhat of a fight.
That's true.
But we'll see. The main thing is Dallas is going to lose again. So I'm good.
Yeah, and how badly they lose I think is going to indicate to me how much they've given up.
Yeah, yeah. Yep, I agree. And I think that you might get it because they might just be like, yeah, fuck this.
They're already booking their trips to Cancun.
Yeah, yeah. I think if Dallas gets blown out here, they might not win again this year.
Maybe not. Mike McCarthy, he's probably by now.
What, 3-14? 3-14. What a horrible record that would be.
You know, McCarthy's probably like, he's checking into being the coordinator somewhere right now.
Yeah, Jerry Jones said again recently, will not fire a coach midseason. Not going to make any changes midseason.
So at this point, McCarthy could resign if he wanted to. I think that might be even better for him.
It's inadvertently, he didn't mean it like this, but it's a form of punishment.
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
You stay there and you suck all fucking year.
I'm not cutting you loose so you can go to fucking, you can go to Bora Bora.
Yeah, and that makes sense from Jerry Jones' standpoint because the longer McCarthy is there identifying with the failure, the more you can blame him.
And then when you get rid of him, it's like, okay, we've thrown all the trouble away.
That's the way it always is for the head coaches.
Yeah, if you replace him now and the season continues to stink, you'll wind up like the Jets.
The new guy, yeah. The new guy walks in and he's the savior.
It's like, oh, I can't wait. He's going to make everything better as soon as he walks on the field.
Yep. Yeah, they're setting up for the new guy.
Yeah, they are.
All right. That makes sense now.
Yep.
Oh, goodness.
I had a little gagging problem yesterday.
A little bit of a bug.
Man, I woke up yesterday and I was really sick to my stomach.
It's weird. Ever since a certain surgery I have done, my gag reflex is like hyper sensitive.
So is mine since sleep apnea surgery, which is quite a while ago.
Yeah.
My throat gets really dry too, which sucks.
Even for me, it's sometimes just the idea of something.
Usually before I'm able to control myself, now it's like...
I could safely say me too.
Yeah, sometimes I'll get coughing and then I'll start gagging and I'll start throwing up.
It's like, wait a minute. It was just a cough.
Anyway, I'll try to mute my coughs. That's what we need is a mute button.
It is what we need.
Yeah, there's pretty much nothing here that's a mute button. I would have to...
If I had time, I would go through it all and edit some stuff, but I just don't have enough time.
Yeah. Plus, I think it was only the first few episodes we really edited anything out.
And after that, we were like, eh, just leave it all in. It's good enough.
We don't want it to be perfect and polished and professional.
It's like, yeah, we're just a couple of guys.
We're not trying to land a gig here.
No.
We're just like, yeah.
Three and eight New England at four and six Miami. A lot of good divisions games.
Yeah. You know what? New England has been sacking up a little bit.
Miami is pissed off because they missed so much time without Tego Viola.
So Miami is going to win. He'll start to get a little bit of a groove. Waddle looks decent.
Mozart, I'm not sure about him, but anyhow, I'm going to say 34 to 10.
Ooh.
I'm going to go New England.
I almost did.
New England is starting to play a little better and I could see Miami having a hiccup here.
I think it'll be a really close game. I'm going to go 1917.
Well, that's good.
New England, even though I really don't like the Patriots.
I don't either. The Patriots.
Anybody who cheats that much, I'm not really a fan of.
Yep. Me neither.
Nine and one Kansas City at three and seven Carolina.
This should be a cakewalk.
It should be a score fest.
34 to 10 Kansas City.
Yeah. I think I'm going to go 33 to 14.
Alright.
Yeah.
Okay.
I really hope this turns out to be a nice big happy blowout for the Chief.
They need to get Orly and him on track.
Yes.
They have stuff that they need to work on.
Pacheco is probably going to jump back in finally.
Amenahue. So the defense will be better on the pass rush.
So yeah. I look for this to be not only a good defensive game,
but also an offensive game that's taking us in the direction that we're going to be in.
Hopefully.
I think having a really big game will help Xavier Worthy.
Yes.
And I don't think there's a better opportunity than this game right here
for him to go out and like catch for more than 100 yards.
I could see him being 150 yard guy easily when he gets it together.
Yeah. Yeah.
This will be a good game to show that.
I mean, this guy is a tire kill in the making.
He can catch the ball. He can get out in front of people.
He's really hard to defend against.
He's a deep ball threat.
So yeah.
All good things.
Let's hope he develops a little faster.
Yeah. I hope so too.
Yeah. I mean, he is a rookie though.
Yeah.
The problem is, is he's a victim of his own success.
The ones that he makes look so good that you expect him to make them all, but he's a rookie.
Yeah. That's, we should also remember that he's on a team that's getting everybody else's best effort.
Yes.
So he's facing probably triple the level of competition he did in college.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Just because he's on the keeps instead.
I think what he's done so far has been magnificent.
Yeah. Yeah. That's the good, that's good to keep it in perspective of what he's going up against and what he has to deal with.
Yeah. And like I said, he is a victim of his own success because he's done so many of them now.
Yeah.
That were effortless, open, and he caught him.
Mm-hmm.
Didn't drop him.
There you go.
Yeah.
Next game, four and six Tampa Bay at two and eight New York Giants.
Okay. I think Tampa Bay is definitely going to have this one here, and I think it's going to be a 27 to 13.
That sounds pretty good. Yeah. I don't see Tampa having much trouble with the Giants.
No, I don't either.
There's not really any kind of home field advantage for a two and eight team.
Yeah. I agree.
I don't care who you are.
Yeah.
So I'm going to go Tampa.
Daniel Jones is not winning any sheet out.
23 and 10.
All right.
Yeah. Yeah. Daniel Jones is.
Daniel Jones.
Yeah. Yeah. He was one of the ones we said back up in three years if he's even in the league.
Yeah. It may not be three years.
Yeah.
So.
Okay. Nine and one Detroit at, excuse me, five and six Indianapolis.
Detroit, but it's going to be a close game.
Yeah. I think that that blowout last night or last week was an anomaly for Detroit.
They don't really do that.
It just kind of happened that day.
But yeah, I wouldn't expect Detroit to be a high scoring team.
Let's go enough.
Yeah. I would say 27 to 23.
Yeah. I think it's going to be close to.
I'm going to go Detroit 28 Indy 24.
We're both right on the same lines.
I just added a point to yours basically.
Six and five Denver at two and eight Las Vegas.
This is going to be a tough game too, but Denver's on a roll.
Bo Nix is throwing great.
The Raiders are the Raiders.
Yeah.
32 to 27.
Nice.
Yeah. I think it's going to be high scoring on Denver's part.
Yep.
I'm not picking Las Vegas again and let till they show me something.
I'm not going to Jacksonville again until they show me something here.
So I'm going to go.
Yeah. I think it's going to be high scoring.
I'm going to go 30 to 10.
Okay.
Denver, not only they're turning out to be pretty solid team,
but they can put up points and they can do it in a hurry.
Yeah. They're not just defense now.
Bo Nix is doing some stuff right.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wouldn't that be funny if the way to beat a Mahomes led team is to become like a Mahomes led team?
I've always thought that. I've always thought that.
Our defense is good, but I don't think our defense could stop Mahomes.
No.
So if you can run your defense in a Mahomes like fashion, your offense, I mean,
then our defense will have trouble with it.
The problem is, here's what the problem is, is they have been trying.
The problem is Mahomes doesn't have any type of a footwork to go by.
He doesn't have any type of a system.
All of his is just gut and intuition.
Yeah.
You can't really copy that.
Yeah. They're musicians like that.
It's just everything they play is personal style and there's no way you can duplicate it.
Jeff Beck.
You can hear other people playing Jeff Beck.
You're like, that's not Jeff Beck.
Brian May of Queen.
Brian May is a great example.
Yeah.
All the way to Tony Ahomey.
Yeah.
People have tried to replicate his dark sound, and they can't.
He claims it's just him and the amps.
Yeah.
And I think he said Marshall.
Didn't he say Marshall?
He said he just turns a Marshall way up.
Yeah.
Then maybe it's his fingers.
Yeah. It's the way you play the strings and hold the strings and express yourself through it.
It makes more of a difference than you think.
I'll put it like this.
There's a lot of those black metal bands that try to duplicate a sound, and they could play a Sabbath song.
No singing, and that's Tony Ahomey, and that's someone else.
Yeah.
Just like that.
Not even thinking.
Why is that?
It's got to be in their hands.
So yeah.
Cute.
Next game, six and four Arizona at five and five Seattle.
Arizona.
It's odd seeing Arizona being six and four, doesn't it?
It is, isn't it?
Yeah.
Seattle's, I think they had their big win for a few weeks.
Last year.
So I'm going to say 28, 21, Arizona.
I think I'm going to go opposite again, just because it's a home game.
I think Seattle is going to 23, 21.
Very easily could be.
Oh, I forgot to mention, starting with Denver, Las Vegas, we're into three o'clock games now.
Oh, okay.
So Denver, Las Vegas, Arizona, Seattle.
I might want to watch the Denver Raiders game, but that's the only one so far.
Yeah.
What time is it?
The three o'clock.
Six, no, five and five San Francisco at seven and three Green Bay.
You know, San Francisco is going to put up a fight somewhere.
I'm going to say this is an upset.
I'm going to say 28 to 21, and it's going to be San Francisco.
They're in danger of losing their division.
They are.
They're not going to get in on a playoff.
They're still going, playoffs.
Let's see, Rams are five and five, Seattle is five and five, San Francisco is five and five, Arizona is six and four.
So they're all bunched right up there.
So just like you could say, well, anybody could take, anybody could lose too.
Yeah.
I mean, look at what Seattle does.
You know, they got right back in the game by defeating their arch enemy.
Yeah.
If the Seattle had lost, they'd be in last place.
Yeah.
But by winning, they're tied for second.
Yeah.
That's how tight it is.
Yep.
And Arizona are doing great, but they do have some flaws in their team.
So you could, they could be taken down.
Yeah.
I think Green Bay is going to take the 49ers in another close one.
Yeah, they're going to take the 49ers in 27-21.
All right.
And we're getting to the point where some of these cold weather cities, it might start making a little difference.
Yes.
So especially if it starts raining.
A cold rain is just utterly miserable.
Well, the Dallas game, they had to have the roof closed, but that was because of rain and I think they had some heavy weather down there.
Yeah.
They were getting some storms.
Yeah.
Kind of part of what moved through us yesterday.
Yeah.
We got the rain end of it and they got the severe end of it.
Yeah.
Which is fine with me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Sunday night game, eight and two Philly at five and five Rams.
Philly.
Okay.
Yeah.
35-24.
Man, if it were anybody else but the Rams.
Yeah.
I think Philly's going to win this 27-7.
Okay.
And that'd be something if the Rams really stunk it up at home on national TV.
It's not beyond them.
No, it isn't.
Yeah.
Is that all of them?
Last game, the Monday night game, seven and four Baltimore at seven and three Chargers.
Wow.
Yeah.
The Chargers are on a roll.
They're playing really well.
Mm-hmm.
But Baltimore has to come back somewhere.
It's crunch time for them.
Brother against brother.
I am going to go with Baltimore, a squeaker, 28-27.
Ooh, that would be fun.
Yeah.
I'm going to pick the Chargers.
Like you said, I think the Chargers are gaining confidence and Baltimore is losing it.
You might very well be right.
Yeah.
What score do I give?
I'm going to go 30.
Chargers are going to get 30 and Baltimore is going to get 24.
Sounds reasonable to me too.
That's one of those games where you can flip a coin and go, okay.
Really?
All right.
That Monday night game is going to be fun.
It is.
If I'm not burned out on football by then, that's the one I'm going to watch.
We'll see what all happens and I can tell you whether I'm going to want to watch it or not.
All right.
You want to go into some bullet points and then we could go into some controversial.
The seven most controversial things ever said during an NFL broadcast.
Oh, that would be good.
And to give you an idea of how this thing is going is Howard Cosell and Greg Gumbel are a part of this.
Oh.
So you kind of get what I'm saying.
Going back to the good old days.
Yeah.
This is controversial stuff.
Not stupid things.
Not Chris Collins.
Yeah.
That's a whole separate category because you're getting a little peek into the mind of the person who's speaking on TV.
Yes.
It's not get a big load of that guy coming down your throat.
None of that.
It's just controversial eyebrow raising.
Oh, yeah.
Put your head over your face moments.
Yeah.
And then Terry Bradshaw announcing that he's a flat earther.
Oh, yeah.
That would be controversial.
So what you're saying is you're a moron.
I still think there should be a reality TV show where you get the flat earthers and you follow them while they try to find the edge of the earth.
Yeah.
First one to reach the edge of the earth where the flat earth ends and the ice wall begins, you win the game.
First off, I would make them find Wyoming.
And then I would make them find the end of the earth.
I think that would be funny as hell to watch these people trying to find the edge of a flat earth.
That would be funny as hell.
So we're like a pizza.
Once you run off, that's it.
You're down.
You're going to space.
Of course, every other planet in the universe is round.
It's just earth.
It's just earth this flat.
Yes, just earth.
Oh my God.
We could go on and on, but yeah, I think everybody's got the point.
Yeah.
Flat earther equals moron.
All right.
That was one of those things that somebody probably came up with for fun and then people started following.
Uh-huh.
I can't believe so.
All right.
Bullet points.
Was Jake Paul, Mike Tyson's bite really necessary?
No.
No, it wasn't.
Only to Netflix.
Yeah.
And that was notoriety.
And to figure out what they have to do to make the Christmas broadcast of the NFL go smooth.
Yeah.
Otherwise, it would cost 70 bucks.
It was no effort by either guy.
No.
As you said, yeah, the dead giveaway is they didn't charge anybody.
So they knew going in, it was going to be a problem.
Nobody could say anything.
It sucked.
It's like, well, you're not out any money, are you?
Uh-huh.
Okay, then shut up.
Get out of here.
Yep.
Pretty ingenious on some ways.
Yeah, that was pretty clever.
All right.
If you had to lay odds on a Super Bowl III, Pete, how would the odds go as in percentage
wise?
And this is towards the Chiefs.
It's not just in general.
Uh, right now?
I give them 45% right now.
45%.
And that is because we have extreme competition.
Yeah.
I was going to go down to as low as 30%.
I'm going to go 45% because Mahomes, Kelsey, Reed have been there, done that.
Both Reeds, you know, McDuffies.
I mean, they are so, Bolton's, they are so big.
Jones, Carlotta, they are so big.
Omenu in these pressure situations to come up with the right play at the right time.
Of course, Steve Spagnolo.
They have a way, and Andy Reed, they have a way of figuring out these and staying calm
and going the course of the route.
Not freaking out and changing.
That's true.
There is very little panic on the Chiefs sideline.
You can see it in some of these other teams.
Mahomes is over there joking around going, yeah, you know, I think we ought to try this
and they're laughing and stuff.
Other teams are over there, you know, all freaked out and looking off into space.
He's over there going, hey, here's what I think we need to do.
We're going to beat these guys.
We just need to know how to do it.
Well, I remember seeing there are three teams who have made it to a third Super Bowl in
a row after winning two and lost the third one.
And that very well could happen with us.
Yeah.
And, you know, there are teams that have made it to three or more Super Bowls in a row and
not won any of them, Buffalo.
Oh, yeah, I heard their new zip code is 044.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, it's hard tenders and waitresses.
Pittsburgh was one of them that won two in a row, made it to the third and lost.
Was that Bradshaw?
It would have been the Bradshaw era.
Yeah.
Because they won 74 and 75 and then they won again in 78 and 79.
OK.
Yeah.
So it's two Super Bowls in a row, two years without two Super Bowls in a row.
Yeah, that's right.
And then they hit a dry patch.
Yeah.
So that kind of when I saw that the teams had actually made it to a third Super Bowl
after winning two and then lost, I thought, that kind of takes the odds down a little
bit in my mind.
The reason, OK, it's not quite the same.
And let me go into this.
I thought about it.
OK.
You have players now willing to take a pay cut and easier to access to get to this Holy
Grail.
That's why it's easier nowadays.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is a much different game than it was even 20 years ago.
It's such a different game.
Not just the rules, but the way the game is handled, the way it's.
I'm not sure what I'm trying to say, but it's not like the football in the beginning of
the Super Bowl era.
Now there's so much more that goes into it that you really can't compare it to the teams
from the 70s, 80s, 90s.
It's almost a different game.
Yeah, it is because players can look over there and go, all right, I got my money the
last two contracts.
Now I want that ring.
I'm going to go there and talk to the chief, so I'm going to take lesser money to go play
there because I want my ring.
That happens so much now that it is possible for a team to three-peat because they load
up on talent.
I agree with Bill Belichick.
It's very hard to do.
It's never been done because of injuries and all these unforeseen things.
But if any team's going to do it, it's this chief's team.
Yeah, I think so.
So we shall see.
It's going to be fun to watch.
Yeah, yeah.
God, I hope the injuries dry up from this point.
Oh, geez.
I mean, well, that's only just from last year to now is I mean, except we're winning.
I mean, that Christmas day game set a fire under our ass like nothing.
And it wasn't pretty.
It wasn't sexy.
It was just done.
They did it.
All right, next one.
Josh Allen was asked about him having success against the chiefs.
He responded, we haven't won anything against them in the playoffs, so it means absolutely
nothing.
How many teams would feel like this right now?
And I got three right off the bat.
No, four.
San Francisco, Cincinnati, Baltimore, and the Bills.
I think those teams right there have bitter in their mouth.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know where else to take that question.
Yeah, that was actually a really smart response by Josh Allen because this counts as a win,
but it really doesn't make a whole lot of difference.
He's not celebrating.
No.
He's like, okay, glad we got the win.
That's going to help us maybe get a home field advantage.
Yeah, it's like you're in a 500 mile race and 20 laps in, you're leading this lap.
Big deal.
I'll even go like this right here too.
Mahomes is really good friends with Josh Allen.
It doesn't seem like he speaks to Joe Burrow.
Yeah.
I think that right there is an attitude thing.
I think it's an... I'm just going to... I just think that people with a winning mentality
and not a selfish mentality enjoy each other.
From everything I've seen, if you can't get along with Pat Mahomes, then that's a you
problem.
Yes.
So if Burrow and Mahomes don't get along, I'm putting it on Burrow.
I don't know if they don't get along.
I know they're not great friends or really communicate that much because all their answers
walking by after the game is like, all right, okay.
All right, take care.
Yeah.
Whatever distance is between them, I think that's Joe Burrow's doing.
I think it is too.
I think Mahomes would be willing to be his bud.
I think so too.
To a limited degree.
Yeah, to a limited degree.
You're not going to show... You're not going to share play goals.
You're not going to go over game tape with him.
But yeah, because CJ Stroud, he likes.
Who's some of the young quarterbacks he's been...
Oh, the one from Nebraska that he's been mentoring.
It seems to me like if you're a nice, tough guy and you like him and you ask for help,
he'll help you.
He doesn't care.
He's not afraid of competition.
Matter of fact, he's smart.
He welcomes competition.
If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.
And the only way to beat the best is to have competition.
There was a time when in football, TV shows, and movies, they would show the cutthroat
world of the quarterback competition.
The starter was always undercutting his backup and trying to make sure...
It used to be like that.
Yeah, and it was played up big time for popular entertainment.
But anymore, starting quarterbacks just have confidence in their ability and they know
they're not going to get beat out by the number two.
So why not help the number two who's going to help you win some games?
It's like, I know he's not going to beat me out for my job, so I'm going to help him get
better.
But he'll never get good enough to beat me out.
So I can teach him everything I know.
That's the attitude to have.
Instead of looking at your teammates as competition, you look at them as help, assistance, assets.
You know what?
Jawan Taylor peels his potatoes with a butter knife.
I think he does.
And I think Juanye Morris eats his peas with a fork.
You went exactly where I wanted you to.
We were going down a serious route.
I was like, I'm going to lighten.
Yes, we should go on now because that was awesome.
Skipping right ahead.
Yeah, moving right along here.
Who really took advantage of the trade deadline and speared a much needed player in a weak
spot?
Of course, the Chiefs.
The Chiefs did a really good job.
There's other teams that really did good too.
I've got to think about it though.
Oh, the Texans.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Who else?
It's easier to say who screwed up.
Yeah, like Natty and all that.
Dallas.
Mostly the teams that just were happy with what they had and didn't have that much, they
failed.
Yeah.
I mean, it's kind of hard to tell because everybody has their own little thing that they
needed and all that.
But I would say the clear cut winner is someone like the Chiefs.
Yeah, I remember that gathering a lot of wonderment from around the country.
How the hell did the Chiefs pull this off when it's like the other teams are helping
the Chiefs to beat them?
The Bills.
Oh, I know.
The Bills and Mario Cooper.
Yeah.
They really added a lot with the Mario Cooper.
There's other great examples, but right there I think that's enough.
The thing is, when you're not trying, it's pretty apparent, isn't it?
Yeah.
People will think about that come season ticket renewal time.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
I hope you would hope so.
Yeah.
Because the object is to get every team as strong as you can.
That's a better game.
And look at it from the season ticket holders' perspective.
It's like I'm buying approximately 10 home game tickets, a couple preseason and the rest
regular season.
So I'm going to go to them, and if the team's going to give up halfway through, then those
last four games are going to be crap, and it's a waste of money.
So that kind of player will start buying single game tickets because he's waiting for the
team to give up and start playing like garbage.
He's like, man, I'm glad I'm staying home on those days and not wasting my money.
A season ticket holder wants you to try every single game, no matter what.
They want you to keep trying to win.
I agree.
That's what makes sense to me.
No, I think you're right.
OK, what quarterbacks are not going to get re-signed in the league right now?
Will Levis?
Quarterbacks, yeah.
Will Levis is a good example.
Mac Jones.
Yeah.
Jacksonville's probably going to be his last stop.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And also, Lawrence Taylor.
No, not Lawrence Taylor.
Trevor Lawrence?
Trevor Lawrence, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, Trevor Lawrence, I could see at some point Jacksonville is going to say, you're
not the guy.
So he won't want to be a backup on his own team.
And anywhere he goes, he's going to want to be a starter or he's going to want to be told
that he's going to get the chance to fight for the starting job.
When they get rid of Peterson and they decide to rebuild, I don't think he's a part of that
process.
I don't see Dak Prescott ever playing anywhere but Dallas.
No, that's the next one I was going to go into.
I think Dak Prescott after this is over, he's going to have a hard time finding another
job.
Stafford.
Stafford is another one.
In Los Angeles, yeah.
Dough.
Yeah.
Darnold.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think any of those teams, I don't think are going to be all that excited
about resigning them.
Especially since someone like Stafford is going to command large amounts of money.
Yeah, I think teams are smarter than that.
Yeah.
Daniel Jones.
And I think Smith.
Geno Smith.
Not a rookie Smith.
Yeah.
Geno Smith.
I think, yeah, Geno Smith's already had quite a career.
Yeah.
So, he's, everyone's got to know that whatever you got from him this year is better than what
you're going to get from him next year because he's going to be...
What we're talking about is signed as a starter, not as a backup.
We're talking like the main guy.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right, should Joe Burrow look for a better organization to be traded to?
Absolutely.
Oh, yes.
100%.
You know, as much as I dislike Joe Burrow as a competitor, I don't know what he's like
as a person.
He may be fine.
Yeah, so I'm just talking about him as the public persona on the Cincinnati Bengals.
I don't like him in that role.
Yeah.
I still want to see what he can do on a football field, just with a different team.
Yeah.
Carolina, I think, would be a good fit for him.
I think Tennessee might be a good fit if they get some receivers.
I think the next fit for him, if he does move, they're going to have to make stipulations
for him.
They're going to have to adhere to some of his wishes.
Yeah.
And I think he's going to have a say in personnel.
I can see that.
Come on.
I also see him wanting to go NFC so he doesn't have to face the homes in the playoffs again.
Yeah, like Brady did.
I agree.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think that's a pretty good sum up of it.
What is Seattle's receiving core like?
Because I could see Burrow going there.
Temperature-wise, he gets about the same.
It's not as bad as Cincinnati.
I could see him going there easily.
Yeah.
Chicago.
Yeah, if nothing else, he could mentor Caleb Williams for a year or two.
Yeah.
He'd have to look at that as a stepping stone.
Yeah.
Temporary.
Yes.
Yeah.
But he could go to Carolina and be the guy for the next five years.
I could see that happen.
We'll see.
It may not be nothing.
Who?
Dallas.
That's the best right there.
Joe Burrow in Dallas.
Yeah.
That would fit exactly with Jerry Jones of finding somebody who's never won a Super Bowl
and giving him the reins to the... Jerry Jones, as long as Jerry Jones is around, that's
not going to happen.
Yeah.
He's not going to give up any of the authority.
Yeah.
Wow.
I could see Burrow just loving going to a big city like Dallas and strutting around.
Yeah.
With his frosted tips, I really think, and his neat little outfits and all that.
I think that he would be much happier in a bigger city.
His candy cigar.
Yeah.
It's just a giant Tootsie Roll painted red on the end.
This is good.
You know how they never show him with that cigar anymore?
No, they don't, do they?
Somebody made the point that you're encouraging smoking, and a lot of kids watch the NFL.
Never thought about that.
You're making smoking look cool to kids.
Yeah.
That's been not the thing for quite a while.
Put it down, Joe.
For God's sakes, put it down.
Yeah.
That's something that a lot of people will get up in arms about is promoting something
to children that isn't good for children, like smoking or drinking or gambling.
You're not supposed to promote those to children.
That will get you slapped down pretty hard.
So I guess he probably just doesn't do it anymore?
Yeah.
I think you realize it's not a good look for him.
Next one.
Do players like Jamar Chase add to the uneasiness of them playing the Chiefs?
I think so.
He creates this nervousness and uneasiness because of his hate, or supposed hate.
He's always making comments.
I mean, he barely said Mahomes was the best quarterback.
He is talking about them way, way too much.
They had that defensive back, Eli Apple, that was doing the same thing.
He couldn't quit talking about the Chiefs.
Yes.
He was basically telling the whole league that they were in his head and they were there
to stay.
I think Jamar Chase, currently he's worth it, but as soon as his production falls off
to the point where he's not worth it, they're going to use that as a reason to get rid of
him.
It's like he won't shut up about the other team.
You won't shut up about the rival.
You keep giving him bulletin board material.
They had the Borough Head statement rubbed in their nose so much too.
It became just a cliche.
It was just fun, fodder, that statement there.
All of that stuff adds to the uneasiness and the awe and allure of the Chiefs are going
to beat you again.
You know it, so why even go up there?
I wonder if Jamar Chase really feels that way or whether he's been asked to play that
role for publicity.
No, I think he feels that way.
I think he really does, yeah, because if you're trying to fake that level of disgust and
hatred, it gets pretty obvious.
I'll tell you what, he needs to go into acting if he doesn't.
I really believe he hates him or thinks he does, whatever.
Why do you think the Raiders continue to poke the bear and that would be Mahomes?
Why do they inflame him?
I just think they don't know any better.
That's kind of been the Raiders attitude, is we don't follow the rules, we'll do the wrong
thing, but we'll still beat your ass.
They don't know really how to do it.
Anything else, I don't ever see the Raiders being a classy organization, the way the Niners
became a classy organization.
The Raiders remind me of this kid that I grew up with down the road, stupid little asshole,
always causing shit and stuff, right?
His mom kept telling him, quit fucking with a parrot, quit fucking with a parrot.
The parrot bit the end of his finger off.
Yeah, they've mangled it or probably mangled it, I don't know, something bad.
He had to go to the hospital.
I don't ever see the Raiders getting out of their own way.
Sometimes they're going to have a good enough team that they can overcome it, but they always
get in their own way.
Yeah, they do, and this is no different.
They poke the bearer, then they get their ass kicked, it's kind of like the kid with
the parrot.
Quit fucking with a parrot, you're going to get hurt.
If they had gotten the attitude like 25 years ago or so that, okay, we're not going to be
the Rebels and Outlaws, we're going to quit the penalties, we're going to quit the trash
talking, let's just focus on being good football players, they probably would have a ring by
now.
Yeah, I think so too.
But they've chosen this path that they're on.
You're only going to get outlaws signing with you from free agency and that's it.
Yeah, and you're not going to get a lot of players who are willing to take a pay cut
so you can get more talent.
That's not the Raiders player in my mind.
In my mind, the Raiders players out for themselves, and if the rest of the team comes along for
the ride, okay, but they don't need anybody with themselves.
I can see Aaron Rodgers fitting in there very nicely.
Oh, I can too.
That's up to watch.
Yeah.
All right.
Do you feel that the players' injuries, even the slightest ones, have to be in public?
Like Mahomes had to report his hip, which was a non-issue.
Yeah, I think they do because of the gambling.
I think so too, but I think there are so many non-issues that it doesn't get looked at anyhow.
Yeah, that's true, but I know in a lot of other sports that are better bet upon, you
have to fully and accurately disclose the health condition of horse racing or dog racing.
You've got to tell everyone, be open about the horse's health, dog's health.
I'll get your pat in a second.
I just thought of something for the music creeps.
All right.
Go ahead and keep going.
But of course, that stuff's easy to fake, but the NFL, I think their gambling partners
want them to be honest about the injuries to a certain point, and then they'll tell
the NFL when they want them to not talk about certain injuries.
It's part of the NFL players' contract that they give up their rights to Health Information
and Privacy Act.
They voluntarily give those up when they sign the contract saying, yes, the league can disclose
all my health conditions to everybody and anybody and blah, blah.
Well, that's their way out of it, but I just think it's overkill, but okay.
I think we get way too much information because we really don't need to know all that much.
No, we don't.
No.
Of course, I'm not a gambler or a fantasy football player either.
No, me neither.
So you're right.
I bet you the people that do do that are... I'm just checking the time.
What Sunday Night Football intro was better, Faith Hill or Carrie Underwoods?
This is the last bullet point.
I think Faith Hill.
I like hers better.
Yeah.
The Carrie Underwoods, the current one, right?
Yeah.
They really, as the saying goes, they really Sunday Night Footballed that song.
Yeah, they did.
It's an example of... I think it's a little more genuine with Faith Hill.
Yeah.
Their current song is an example of let's cram every kind of nod to everyone and every
little cameo and let's throw in every little musical excitement we can.
And it was just immense overkill.
Yeah.
Yep.
It's like honey dipped in sugar, covered in molasses, with chocolate cord on top, and
then ice cream.
It's like, oh my God, too much.
I agree.
There we go.
Yeah.
When I listen to that Sunday Night Football theme, I feel like I've been bludgeoned.
I feel like I've been assaulted musically.
I agree.
And it's like, I don't even know what to do after that.
Should I leave?
Yeah.
It's like three times as many instruments as you need.
I don't like it.
Yeah, I don't either.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I got some of the... Oh, go ahead.
I have one bullet point.
Yeah.
We've been talking about Rashid Rice only to the point where he's going to be out for
the full year.
Mm-hmm.
He's going to be back.
But let's think about next year.
His legal troubles come into play.
Yeah, he may be out next year, too.
Yeah.
He may be able to pull up and be gone all next year, and then he's out for two years,
basically.
That's going to be a problem.
Okay.
Number one, you're not going to let him go because the competition will pick him up and
he'll kill us.
Yeah.
I think you just have to ride it out.
I think so, too.
I think the Chiefs are going to be stuck with two non-productive years out of Rashid Rice.
And then when he does come back, the spotlight's going to be on.
It's like, all right, we stuck with you.
Now it's time for you to put up.
And that's going to be interesting to see how he reacts.
Yeah, yeah.
It's too bad, too, because he was becoming one hell of a go-to guy.
Yeah, yeah.
And now they're having to work Worthy into that role where they already had Rice.
Well, Worthy right now, the way I see it, of course, he's a rookie.
He's about a 50-50.
Yeah.
That's about it.
He'll either make that great play or he'll be out of bounds one or the other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gosh.
Yep.
All right.
Is that all of the bullet points?
All the bullets I had.
OK.
Well, before we go into the music creeps, I've got some of the most controversial, horrible
statements, upsetting statements, whatever you want to call it, by...
Things that make you go, wow.
Yeah.
And did they really say that?
Yeah.
OK.
The first one belongs to Greg Gumbel.
Remember him?
I remember Greg Gumbel.
Well, he was referring to Travis Kelsey and his ability to get people off of him to run.
Maybe not so much now, but before.
Travis Kelsey throwing people around like a schoolteacher.
It was what Greg Gumbel said.
Man, what school he went to.
I don't know, but I don't want to go there.
Catholic?
Catholic with their rulers?
Could be.
Oh, yeah.
Those nuns.
You could tell the nuns never get laid.
They're pretty mad.
They're pretty angry.
Yeah.
Man.
You know, if I were any of those Catholic kids getting hit by a ruler with a nun, I'd
find the nearest brick and just clock that bitch.
Yeah.
There you go.
Don't worry.
You're going to God now.
Just because you ain't getting any doesn't mean you have to hit me.
Yeah.
Yep.
You hate your life.
Don't take it out on me.
So yeah, that was a horrible one.
Howard Cosell is, of course, we know who Howard Cosell is.
This one is really, really bad, but I know you'll remember it and I remember it very
... There's been different instances of him saying the same thing.
Joe Gibbs wanted to get this kid, the little monkey gets loose.
Cosell later on disputed that.
Okay.
What he was talking about was Joe Gibbs got the kid and then the little monkey got out.
You know, he got to get loose and go play.
Okay.
Cosell later on disputed the accusations saying that he did not call Alvin Garrett a little
monkey but was being descriptive instead.
He said, it was nothing of sort that you all are making it.
I could see his point.
If you say the mice come out to play, you're not calling these people actual mice.
No, no, no.
I agree with him.
I don't think he was anything but racist, really.
But I think he should have been aware of the words he was choosing and been smarter than
that.
Well, the most famous one is run, monkey, run.
You know, even with modern day, current NFL commentators, I get really uncomfortable when
they talk about the linemen and say, look at those big boys run.
Oh, and the great women, the big boys can run with it.
It's like, you never refer to an adult black man as boy.
You just don't do that.
Especially not in the giant public forum like that.
I mean, if it's one person you know really well and he's cool with it, that's another
matter.
But calling these adult black men big boys is not a very good look.
That's just wrong.
It's too soon.
It's always going to be too soon.
I think so, too.
Yeah.
All right.
The come on man segments, we remember those, right?
Come on, man.
All right.
That's the most uninfluential argument ever, the most uninspiring, worthless argument to
say, come on, man.
Really?
That's supposed to convince me to change my mind?
Okay.
Now it's you got lost.
Okay.
Everyone knows the catchphrases they come up with.
Oh, I know.
ESPN.
All right.
Charles Woodson, when explaining the video of a cameraman at Arrowhead Stadium, accidentally
running over a cheerleader, asked if Coriam Hunt was back.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Bad taste.
Anytime you're trying to make a joke about one person assaulting another, especially
when it's a professional athlete man versus a woman, that's bad.
I'm surprised not more was made out of that.
Oh yeah.
Somebody stepped right in and did damage control quickly.
I think what he did was he said, Coriam Hunt is a really good back and runs people over.
If I remember correctly.
I guess you could get out of it that way, yeah.
But if the rest of us knew he was talking about Coriam Hunt in that video of him.
I think he did that double entendre on purpose.
He knew it was going to do that and he knew how he was going to get out of it.
All right.
Gus Johnson, Titans throw a pitch play to Chris Johnson.
He broke free on a 53 yard run.
While the play was being commentated, Gus described Chris' run as getting away from
the cops.
Dude.
It stuns me.
These people are actually hired to speak on television and paid enormous amounts and they
come up with that?
The whole comment was when Chris was running, because I seen it.
Look at that.
He's got getting running from the cop speed.
Running from the cop speed.
And you know, this is kind of different from what I thought.
I was thinking like Jimmy the Greek when he said that comment about black athletes don't
have the requirements necessary to be quarterbacks, meaning they weren't smart enough.
No, no, no.
I remember that.
That was an intentional racist remark.
These are just really horrible choices of words.
Yeah, they are.
Because Jimmy the Greek, as he should have gotten to a lot of shit over there, he should
have too.
That was bullshit statement.
And more people got in trouble when it was Donovan McNabb.
Rush Limbaugh was one saying that because he was black, he didn't have what it took
to be a quarterback.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's right.
And you're thinking about when will the NFL be done with this experiment with black quarterbacks
or something like that?
I don't think they're done with it.
I think it's going very well.
And guess what?
Everybody's done with Limbaugh now, aren't they?
Yeah, they are.
Isn't it fun when racist jerks get what they deserve?
Yeah.
I just love that.
Yeah, and then he tried all this experimental stuff, trying to survive advanced lung cancer,
and all it did was just really, really, really make him miserable in his last days.
Well, maybe he should have taken some of those Viagra he was trying to snuggle.
Yeah, going down to Columbia.
Yeah.
Well, I forgot the excuse on that.
That was so stupid.
Or you do some Aoxie cotton that you go deaf.
Yeah.
He had enough to knock out an elephant.
Yeah, I think with the Viagra, he was saying that they weren't available down there and
he wanted to make sure he had enough or something stupid like that.
And it was like diddy in this jars of baby oil.
Yeah.
I was surprised he didn't say he bought them from Costco.
And Costco would immediately say, we don't have nothing to do with that guy.
We didn't sell him 30,000 lots of Viagra.
In fact, we turned him down for a membership.
Yeah.
We said, you're a dick.
You can't have one.
And not even a hard dick, just a little soft dick.
You know what?
I'm going to leave that right there.
There are so many different ways.
Anyhow.
Okay.
Al Michaels said that when the Giants took the field that the team was so bad off, they
had the worst year since Harvey Weinstein.
Again, making a joke about anything to do with sexual assault, always a bad idea.
Al Michaels was 70 something.
That's all I can say for him.
Maybe a little dementia.
And I'm sure he's been involved in that good old boy network for so long that he doesn't
even see it anymore.
Probably, probably, probably.
I don't know whether he was part of it, but I imagine he just doesn't even see it anymore
because it's part of everyday life.
Al Michaels is usually more reserved than that and more intelligent than that.
So this might just be one that got away from him and he thought it was funny coming out
of his mouth.
And then it's one of those ones that met later like, oh.
Plus as you're getting towards the end of your career, you kind of don't care as much
about career ending things.
Yeah.
I agree.
All right.
Next one.
Chris Collinsworth calling a Cowboys game.
Talking about Dak Prescott.
Chris said that Dak bought his mom a house with his endorsement money.
The only problem is his mom passed away a year before from colon cancer.
Check your facts, Collinsworth.
Good God.
How would you like hearing that?
Are you meeting the grave?
Is that her house?
Yeah, I bought her one last year.
Fuck face.
Ma'am.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
You're a little dumb.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's pretty bad.
Yeah.
This next one I don't agree with.
I'm going to preface it like that.
I'm going to explain to you the context.
Jason Wiggen compared Shaquan Barkley to running to OJ Simpson.
He wasn't talking about his personal life.
He said, me, I thought it was a compliment because he was not talking about anything
else.
I thought OJ Simpson is one of the best runners ever.
But people got all over him going, don't talk about that murderer.
It's like, no, he has nothing to do with that.
This is his on the field stuff.
Yeah.
And then he did that whole series of commercials where he's running through the airport and
hurdling over luggage and people.
Yeah, the Hurts commercial.
Yeah.
He brought him on the map.
OJ Simpson was always known for running.
Yeah.
That was kind of his personality and his identity.
So yeah, I agree with you.
People just kind of.
People nitpicked that one.
Yeah, they were looking to get offended because they didn't like it.
He gave the guy a hell of a compliment.
I know if I was running back and someone said, man, you kind of remind me OJ Simpson.
I'd be like, really?
Yeah.
Cool.
Yeah.
I'll take that.
Yeah.
So all right.
And finally, Monday Night Football, San Francisco rookie kicker Chase McLaughlin, I remember
him a little bit, shanked the kick that was critical, that was a critical point, but was
brutalized by Joe Testori.
Remember him?
No, I don't.
He was a big nothing murderer.
He exclaimed the moment was too big for him, even though right before that he clutch kicked
a 50 plus yarder on one of his first kick ever in a game.
Wow.
Short memory on that announcer there to say that it was.
Too big for him.
Too big a moment for him.
Too big of a moment for him.
Wow.
And also the other thing is, is it was the game that made it go into overtime.
Those three points made the game go into overtime.
It is as a, it may have been like maybe his fifth kick, but they just had him in because
the other guy was injured or something happened.
Yeah.
So.
Well, sounds like the Testori was just looking for a way to pile on somebody.
Yeah.
And it didn't work.
It backfired because I listened to that too and nobody said anything.
Nobody backed him up or nothing.
Let's just let that one die right there.
Okay.
Testori had to come back with something else because nobody was, no one was going to touch
it.
So finally he goes, well, you know, he does something about the game.
Yeah.
It was very awkward.
So, and even if it was too big for the guy's moment, you don't say that.
No, it's a dick move to call somebody out like that.
It is.
All right.
Okay.
Are we going to end this and go to the sports creeps?
All right, so we decided we're going to say goodbye to the sports bastards.
And now we're going to go into, I don't know if it's the first edition or what, but whatever,
the music creeps.
We'll call it the pilot episode.
Why not?
The pilot episode of the music creeps.
We might take that designation back if we feel like it.
Yeah, we could.
It doesn't mean anything anyway.
No, nobody cares anyhow.
But we also have Rob's list of one of the things we're going to speak about.
But I gave him, I gave him the list too late.
So all he could do was one of them and I told him that was great.
So anyhow, we're going to be right back with that because I got to piss.
I didn't think so.
Game over.