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That'll tell you how good this show is. A deaf person fucking hates it.
Harambe used to love talking sports. Harambe does not talk sports anymore.
Why you might ask? Harambe, he was senselessly murdered.
He was murdered because some idiot could not watch their children properly while watching their phone.
Sadly, Harambe does not talk sports anymore. Sorry Harambe.
And let's see. I'm going to have to zoom in a second and see the spot.
Alright, it's working. I like it. Whatever is in the background, that's good.
Just let me know when we're on air so I don't give it away.
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We're going to turn up our headphone gain just a little bit. Turn down our microphone gain just a little bit.
And we're set. Alright. Okay.
Well, I think we probably did rather crappy this week.
All our hopes and dreams were dashed and gone by the third game. Fourth game. It was done.
Do we have to actually blame ourselves? Can we blame somebody else?
No, we're going to blame this on all the coaches that did not prepare right.
I like that. Yeah. They should have won those games. Yeah.
Everyone should be fired immediately.
Let's see. Somebody else actually did get fired. Who was that?
Oh, I forgot. But look how well that turned out for the Jets.
Oh, wait a minute. Who did get fired?
I got it in my sheet here. Well, it wasn't Doug Peterson.
Let's see. Oh, the mayor's offensive court in the air. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah. Because Caleb Williams has taken ten steps back and he wasn't ever that forward.
Yeah. Yeah. When you start looking worse than you did in college or when you first got there.
Yeah. I mean, he might be on my backup in three years of the bullet point that you got, that you sent me.
So. That coffee's so good. I know. So is this. I got cappuccino.
Oh, I hate your angels. Really? And hearts.
Well, this time I got the power supply set correctly, so we're going to have a disastrous crash in the middle.
That's good. All right. So you want to ready to go over our picks from last week?
Let's do it. Let's do it.
All righty. One thing I want to say is last week, I very confidently gave the wrong information about the London game.
I told you the wrong teams being in London. I had to listen back to myself very confidently telling you the exact wrong thing.
And everybody was going to know it. So no different than me telling.
I think it was the Vikings players and saying that they were part of the Lions players.
Yeah. Remember the first. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So sorry, everybody.
I very confidently got that. All right. So the first actual game, Cincinnati at Baltimore.
It was a nut tugger at the end. It was. 35-34 Baltimore.
I mean, Natty put on a hell of a fight. Yeah, they got up big. Yeah.
Then Baltimore came back and then it was just back and forth.
Natty and Zach Taylor have something missing very badly.
There's some stuff that Joe Burroughs is saying now. Now I'm kind of on the on the fan side.
Before, remember, you and I were kind of like, yeah, they're kind of nitpicking. Yeah, I remember that.
Now someone like Mahomes might have said something different or another leader like Tom Brady would have said something different.
But you can't go everything by that because those guys are different than everybody else. Yeah.
You know, so I'll get to that a little bit later, but maybe there's something there to what they're saying now.
Now I'm willing to entertain it. Yeah.
There's a little bit of selfishness there that you see that you don't see in a Mahomes or Brady or even Josh Allen or somebody. Yeah.
So we can get to that during bullet points, though. Selfishness is always a bad thing.
Just the way he works stuff sometimes is like, well, anyhow.
So we both got that correct. Yeah, word is he's one that had a Kelsey's and Mahomes house broken.
No, not really. Just joking. Allegedly. Allegedly in an alternate universe.
That's it. He was the one that did. There we go. Yes. That's safe to say. All right.
And he plays for the Raiders. Hey, he would look just right at home in silver black, wouldn't he?
Yes, he would. Yeah, he's going to end up there. I hear there's negotiations going on. Yeah. Wow.
Negotiations going on right now. All right.
Up next, we have the New York Giants at the Carolina Panthers.
And the Panthers won their third game of the season. They're now three and seven.
Oh, did we both win the first one? Yeah, we were both correct on the first one. That's what I thought.
And then we both blew the second one. Yeah, yes.
That was the one I was like, OK, first we got down, then the second one, you know, that Sunday.
I'm like, not so good. Yeah. Anyhow.
It was pretty low scoring. We predicted that correctly, but we both picked the Giants.
Yeah, and the Giants are one of those teams that baffle me.
You don't know what you're going to get out of them. I mean, it's kind of like, you know, it's truly a box of chocolates.
Yeah. And some other teams, unfortunately, were starting to learn what you can get out of them.
Yeah, unfortunately, yeah. So. And then the.
That's the next game that scratched me up. I'm sorry.
We ought to do a negative game where we don't have to add it on each one.
That would have been it. That would have been like, no, scratch this game. Yeah. Yeah.
Throw out the best and the worst. Yeah.
I like that idea. We'll do that. OK.
The third game, New England at Chicago.
And wow, we both got this wrong.
New England beat Chicago 19 to three. I know.
No wonder the offensive coordinator got fired, but there's something really missing off of there.
And the graveyard to quarterbacks continues. Yeah.
I was really thinking that maybe they've broken that curse, but here it comes.
Look, I think just like Trevisky or not Trevisky, Fields, Trevisky was garbage. Yeah. Yeah.
OK. Fields has talent and they're ruined. Yeah.
I think Caleb Williams is the same. He had all this potential.
And you're just seeing it wither and away.
If I was a young quarterback and they said Chicago is going to draft me, I would get out of the draft and do it next year.
That's what Caleb Williams initially said. Yeah. When he realized that he was going to be the number one overall pick.
The Bears had that pick. He said, not playing in Chicago.
I'll sit out a year. I'll go do anything else. I'll play. I won't play in Chicago.
But like a couple of months later, he completely changed his tune and was in love with Chicago.
He bought a huge house there, too. Yeah. Yeah.
So somebody convinced him to give it a try. That's that's a kiss of death, in my opinion, right there.
You wait till your third season by your house. CJ Stroud should still be running.
It's like when you see an advertisement for a movie and all they're doing is interviewing people coming out of the movie.
Yeah. You know it stinks. Yes.
Just that type of commercial. You know that movie's going to suck.
It's like they have nothing else to say. Yes. Because that was the test audience.
Yeah. They're being paid to give good reviews. Oh, I love this. This is great.
OK. Anyway, New England. I wouldn't read anything into this, but Chicago.
This is your smelling salts. New England. You got to figure this out.
Is New England. What's his name? Mays or what? May. May. Derrick May. Drake May.
Yeah. Is this Drake May or is this Jacoby Percent? I think this was May.
OK. Well, you know, May has a lot of upsides, so maybe he's kind of like getting the feel of it
and kind of getting the earth underneath him. And maybe he's I didn't pay a lot of attention to this game.
It wasn't televised in our area. No, I was just keeping track of the scores.
Yeah. So I'm saying the Patriots are probably going to be, you know, that team that's OK, but not horrible, but not great.
Or not even near great, but you know. They'll wreck a few people's playoff chances this year. Yeah.
That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Our next game is San Francisco at Tampa. Another one we both got completely wrong.
We both picked Tampa Bay. San Francisco won 23-20. Yeah. Purdy looked OK.
Tampa Bay looked asleep, didn't they? Yeah, they did. But yet they really made it close at the end. Yeah. Yeah.
We you had picked 27-26 the other way and I picked 24-17 the other way. So we both got that wrong. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, no, wait, I didn't. Yeah, that was the one I thought I got wrong and marked it correctly. OK. I actually did. Yeah.
OK. OK. Well, Tampa Bay still has potential, but I don't know. They're not.
They're not a complete team either. Like I thought I thought they were better than what they were.
Yeah, it seemed like last season and going into this season that they were building. But now.
Now it's like, yeah, they're sliding sideways. Yeah. And it's not necessarily Baker Mayfield.
He's not making a whole bunch of horrible mistakes. No. It's just not really not really executing everything.
They're not executing very well, is what I would say. Yeah. It's like we were talking earlier about the Jets.
There's something lacking. Yeah. Something that's just not there. The Texans. That was who we were talking about.
The Texans. Yeah. Yeah. There's something missing there that haven't figured out exactly what it is yet.
Yeah. And is it because, quite frankly, they changed the dynamic of everything by hiring people from outside to come in?
That could do it. That could definitely do it. Like Stephon Diggs, who I think is out through the season now, isn't he?
I'll have to look that up. Joe Mixon. Yeah.
When you have those type of caliber of players to a team that's developed and maybe it does something to the people that are there already saying, oh, we're not good enough.
I thought so. So it's developed very well. And now you've, you know, I don't know. Oh, yeah.
I'm sure there's a lot of players they've been telling, you know, hey, you're next in line. You're next in line.
You know, if something happens and you're next up and then they go to get a free agent. Yeah. And that player is like, well, crap.
I guess I'm not next up. Maybe next year. I don't know. Yeah. Is it coaching? We don't know. This is going to be determined. Yeah.
The rest of the year. They might make the playoffs, but they're not going to do it in the grand fashion. Playoffs!
Not the grand fashion that I thought they might do. I'm going to have to get a sound sample of Jim Morris saying playoffs. Yeah, just doing that. Just throw him.
And we're a minute into this, so if people turned it off, it doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. We got credit.
Let me cough into myself. All right. Next game. We nailed this one. Denver at Kansas City. Yeah.
We both said it was going to be close. A real nut tugger. That's about what a nut tugger is. Oh, my goodness.
What can you say? Kansas City found a way to win again and they're getting mother fucked all the way. Yeah. All the way.
Oh, Patrick Mahomes was talking to the refs. Oh, that made Leo Chanel jump up and block that. Yeah. Okay.
No, it's like this. People have just now been starting to say this, but this team is head and tails above everybody else, obviously. Yeah.
You can. The Broncos are getting tired of getting their ass kicked by us. That simple. They have some capable people.
They put up a fight. They put up a really good fight, but they came short. The reason they came short is because this team refused to lose to them. Yeah.
They found a way to win as if possible as it looked. They found a way to get it done. Yeah. One of the big takeaways I get from this is Denver's a good team.
They are. They're a really good team. Yeah. I mean, I know they always play us tough, especially here, but they're better than I thought they would be at this point in the season.
They're going to be. Well, we knew the defense was going to be solid, but their offense is clicking much better than I thought it would. Yeah.
Yeah. Once Bo Nix gets it figured out, that's going to be our foreign in our side. Yeah. Yeah.
Bo Nix is like we thought. We thought he was very capable and Coach Stryke, which he is being Coach Stryke, he's going to be a formidable opponent.
Just like Patrick Mahomes said, he said, hey, you know, great game. You're going to have a lot more of these. Keep doing it. You know, keep doing what you're doing.
We are going to lose to them a few times. I can tell you that right now. Yeah. So I remember early in the year, my prediction was the Chiefs were going to lose one or two or three games.
And it was going to be late in the season to a division opponent. And I really thought that game against Denver was going to be it. No, I thought you said that. You said that too.
I remember you saying that and I thought that too at then. I'm like, well, I guess Topher nailed that. Yeah. You almost did. Yep.
That was his nut tugger, his nut tugger against. Oh my gosh. Oh man. My nuts were around the farm.
They were, they were tugged in every direction. I was praying no overtime, no overtime. Oh, I know. It got to the point where it wasn't going to be overtime. It was going to be win or lose.
I already had him eight and one and I was like, OK, we're going to go into Buffalo. We need to kick their ass to remain number one seed. Yeah.
But then when we did that, I hope we were just as focused on Buffalo because that was a trap game. That was a perfect trap game. It was.
I'm not taking anything away from Denver, but this is the definition of the trap game. A division opponent that's lesser than you with the big game coming up right behind you.
So if that was a trap game and the Chiefs still won, then watch out NFL. But you know what? If you guys aren't on alert, even though you don't act like you are, you better fucking be.
Anyhow, we're going to see what happens this weekend and we'll we'll speak from there. So anyhow.
All right. Speaking of Buffalo, that's our next game. Buffalo at Indy. Buffalo won 30 to 20. Indy put up a little bit of a fight. They did.
You got that one wrong. I got it right. I picked Indy, didn't I? Yeah.
OK, you see, I thought that was their trap game. Yeah. Yeah, I remember you saying that. And I don't know why I picked Buffalo. I guess just to be different.
You know what? I mean, you got it right. So yeah, yeah.
I put a ton of thought into this. I was trying to think it. I was overthinking it and giving it to trap game. Yeah.
So anyhow, you know what? I'm going to keep doing that, though. I mean, that that's what makes this stuff fun.
But you know that that keeps Indy kind of right there in mediocre like we thought they kind of walla land.
Excuse me. I don't think Richardson is the answer, though. The more I see him, the more it just doesn't look like he has a lot to offer.
Yeah. Did you see that the other not this last game, but the one before he took himself out after a play? Yeah.
He just patted his own head and said, man, I'm tired. I ran around a bunch. That's not the guy you are.
No, I think at that point, the front office was like, all right, who do you got his quarterback coming to find him? Yeah.
I mean, like that guy's in the rest of the year. Yeah. I mean, that's a guy who's going to sacrifice the team win because he didn't want to hurt himself.
I was like, where's Joe Flacco? Yeah. Anyhow. All right. Behind that game, we have Pittsburgh at Washington.
Pittsburgh pulled it out last second. Twenty eight, twenty seven. Yeah. That that that that pass of Russell Wilson could not have been any better.
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's amazing. Russell Wilson still has that amount left in his tank.
But he can't really do it all the time. But boy, it sure came through in the clutch then, didn't it?
When when you're going to see the difference is probably playoff time. Yeah.
They're going to be in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. In some facet.
They may even sneak around and win the division. We'll see.
Oh, yeah. Baltimore could could go into a little bit of tailspin and get caught.
Baltimore has been shitting their pants here. Yeah. Yeah. They've been the roamer's enemy.
Yeah, they have been. They seemingly have everything together and then they lay it down.
And we'll see that. Who are they playing this week? I wonder. Pittsburgh or Baltimore.
Baltimore. Baltimore is at Pittsburgh. Well, there we go. There we go. What a setup.
We did not practice in advance. No. Yeah.
Like people here as they know, we don't prep. No. Well, I wanted to thank everyone
for downloading that preview episode of the music. Very well. Yeah.
Last time I checked it had 13 downloads. Yeah, that's pretty awesome.
So I hope everyone enjoyed the episode and the guitar solo. Yeah.
I thought it was really well done. I think it. And also, I love your picks.
All reasons. It's just. Yeah, it's good. I'm going to come up. The one I'm going to do is great hoaxes.
Oh, I'm going to love that one. Yeah. And Rob's going to come up with one, too.
We're all going to do our own. You know, like how Kiss released their solo albums when they're still together.
Yeah. We're going to like each to our. Yeah, I love it.
And then we're wanting to. I was thinking we'd take Rob's questions of the things that we're going to answer.
And then and then whenever we do the music creeps and we have our questions, we'll put Rob's answer in there.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That way, he's a part of it, too. Oh, excellent. Yeah.
Because he loves music and he really would love to be a part of this.
So that's the way we can make him be. Yeah. And having a having a third perspective makes it that much more interesting.
Yeah. Yeah. So so that's the way we'll probably do it, I guess.
So yeah, yeah, I'm really I love this NFL thing, but man, I'm really excited about the music.
I'm like, I'm like, we're doing that thing right there. I think it's going to go well.
So anyhow, we can we can hope next game.
Oh, by the way, you you pick that you pick Washington.
So you got that one wrong as well. You didn't do so well.
I was I was in and out on a limb mood. I was like, you know, I'm just going to anyhow.
Go ahead. Next up, Minnesota at Jacksonville, Minnesota, one twelve to seven, which probably was pretty boring game to watch.
Yeah. We both got it right. Was that the one that was in London or not?
No, that was no, that was probably a new game.
It was a new game. I don't think I heard anything about it until five hours later.
Yeah, I don't think anyone really paid much attention besides the people in those two cities, those two cities.
And that was it. And no, neither one of us was dumb enough to go for Jacksonville.
No, no. So yeah, they're kind of like the Raiders.
They're going to have to start winning and playing well before I do anything in their favor.
Yeah. All right. Next is Atlanta at New Orleans.
Big surprise. New Orleans beat Atlanta. I know.
Well, 2017, we both got this dead wrong. Kirk Cousins.
Yeah. Yeah. That's him. A typical just the way it is.
Kirk Cousins. Go ahead.
I was just going to say it could be this is this one screw up game and he's back to being OK again.
Yeah, he'll probably be OK in the next one. But down the down the stretch, though, he's going to let you down.
Yeah. He'd like Dak Prescott. Yeah. Yeah. Not quite as bad, but yes.
At least this year, Dak is out for the season. Yeah. So he can't fuck it up.
He can't screw up the rest of your season doing anything.
Is that his Trey Lance? I think so. Yeah. I think that's number two is Trey Lance.
I mean, they paid so much for him. Why not use him? Yeah, why not? They were idiots.
Yeah, I heard that Jerry Jones at the trade deadline wound up getting a wide receiver who nobody thinks is very good and overpaid for him.
I believe it. Yeah. That that team is never going to be good until he's out of the picture.
I stand by my statement that the only person Jerry Jones needs to fire is Jerry Jones.
You're right. They need to get a real GM in there, but they won't as long as he has a part of it.
I don't think his ego will let him give up any kind of meaningful power.
I think the only reason he's still alive is because he gets to do that. Yeah.
But like everybody, I mean, his his time will be over and it's something that the Dallas Cowboys will exist after Jerry Jones has passed.
It's like Snyder. Dan Snyder, he exited not quite the same, but you know, well, Jerry Jones should have been thrown out like him.
But anyhow, so. All right.
Tennessee at the Chargers. Chargers won 27-17. We both got it correct.
Yeah, quiet, very quietly. Jim Harbaugh has put together a solid team that can win.
They're six and three, I think. Yeah, six and three now.
Scoring 27 points. That's pretty good. Yeah.
I know kudos to Tennessee for getting 17 because the Chargers defense is kind of better than that.
It is better than that. OK, I think the stat I read just top my head is if they get 26 points or more, they win this year.
All funny. Yeah. And they got 27. They got 27-7. Yeah. Interesting.
Which is an interesting feat because it shows their defense is really good. Maybe not top notch, but good enough to win some games.
Yeah, it means your opponent has to score four touchdowns generally to beat you, which is not usual. Not usual.
Yeah. So, you know, Jim Harbaugh's quietly done some pretty good things there already. Yeah.
He needs some more pieces, but I think whoever's going to get that wall of cards spot is going to be the head to head between the Chargers and Denver.
And you know, at the beginning of the season, I was really skeptical about Jim Harbaugh thinking that he was just hiding out here because he'd been chased out of college in the fall.
He's making a home. I don't know. He's investing, you know, heart and soul and intellect into that team. So, eating my words on Jim Harbaugh.
He made it to the Super Bowl. His brother happened to have a little bit better team, you know, that was with the, what's his name, the Nealer.
The Nealer. Kaepernick. Kaepernick. Yeah, with Kaepernick and Alex Smith as his backup. Yeah. Yeah.
So, he made it to the Super Bowl. So, he's a very capable coach. It's just that John Harbaugh has such a solid team up there in Baltimore.
There's no way they're going to win it. So, anyhow. But they still made it into the season. Jim Harbaugh is a good coach.
And I think he's not going to go back to college because he was pretty much ran. And I think he's like, OK, I escaped their unskate. So, I'm going to stay over here.
It kind of seems like the AFC West is going to go back to the same cycle I remember from, I forget what, decades. But you got the Chiefs, the Broncos, and the Chargers doing well.
And then the Raiders is just, nobody's paying attention to them. Yeah. And then Seattle was a part of them, too. Yeah. Seattle was another throwaway team. Yeah. Yeah.
OK. What it is, is they're getting tired of being people slips. So, they're starting to figure some things. They're starting to get some coaches that can do some things. Yeah.
And they're not settling for the guy they think they can do it. They're going to go for the proven guy like Ashawn Payton and also for Jim Harbaugh.
Yeah. The copycat tendency of the league goes in cycles. And for a while it was fashionable to pick an unknown or an outsider or take a chance on somebody who could come in and shake things up and be dynamic.
Those were the buzzwords they'd usually use. Yeah, that's true. I think that's run its course. And now they're back to, well, let's go get somebody who's worked up through either our system or a system that we respect.
Yeah. Well, people looked at the Sean McDermott, the Zach Taylor's. There's some other good examples, but those are two right off hand. None of them won a Super Bowl. Yeah. None of them. They've all gotten close, but they've not done it.
Getting close used to be good enough. Yeah. It is about 40 years ago. It was good enough. Not now. Not now. Performance is demanded. If you don't do it, you're out. So, OK.
All right. This next game, New York Jets at Arizona Cardinals. Wow. Arizona is quietly breaking together. Yes. Arizona is now six and four. So, Arizona 131 to six. I still don't trust it. Six. Six. That is pathetic as putrid.
And nothing but doom and gloom from the Jets locker room. Even Devontae Adams is now saying there's a lack of energy, a lack of enthusiasm. It's like a darkness or a dark cloud has settled over them.
What kind of a statement is that? Giving up. It's not my fault. There's nothing I can do about it. And I'm the victim. They should, you know what? They should have cut him.
Well, you know, it's players who are tired of having to put on a good smiling face and say the team's party line. You know what? Maybe I'm a little drastic on the cutting. Yeah. That's the way I feel. Yeah. I think everyone there, all the players are tired of covering up for what management is screwing up.
Yeah. You know what? I get that. Okay. All right. You know what? Yeah. Obviously, they need a whole revamping. They need to get rid of everybody and bring other people in. And that's the only thing you can cure with that, with that blackness, that darkness, that black cloud over them.
Flush the front office. Yeah. Get rid of it. Yeah. You're talking about De Bartolo. De Bartolo. Yeah. De Bartolo. That was it. Yeah. Of the 49ers that brought what? Six or seven Super Bowls to them back in the day. Not nowadays because there's this thing called the Chiefs.
Okay. Anyhow, De Bartolo started by changing everybody out and making everything first class, like you said. Changed the whole culture in a matter of a couple years. Yep. And then hired Bill Walsh and the rest was history.
And it's been proven over and over in sports, in entertainment of all different kinds. If you take the talent that you're promoting and treat them like a winner and a star right from the beginning, you've got a much better chance of them making it.
Yeah. Yeah. It's the positive encouragement is so much better on a level like that. Yeah. Because all the people that you see are capable. Getting them to do that is the trick. Yeah. All of them are capable. That's how they made it there. But to get them to do that is the trick right there.
Imagine being on a team and you're like three games under 500 and you're being told, well, we're not going to get better food in here until you guys start winning the game. Yeah. Is that going to work? I don't think it's going to work.
I just got ran into. Did you see that? Yeah. Anyhow, go ahead. That was it. Okay. The next game, Philly at Dallas. Philly won handily 34 to six and we both got that correct. Was that the game that Dak got injured his hamstring?
No, it was a game before. It was nagging him and finally they just said that. Yeah. So that's another sign that Dallas is giving up is he could go last week, but this week it's like, nah, go ahead and end your season.
They're stuck with him. Yeah, they are stuck with him. He's an investment they've got to protect now. So it's interesting to see teams openly giving up on their season.
The thing with Dallas is what are they going to do with it? What have they done with it? They've tanked before. Is it the wrong kind of offense for them? Do they have the wrong pieces? Do they have the wrong play color? Jerry Jones from the start.
I think that, yeah, I think his meddling is causing everybody to look over the shoulder, worry about job security, always, you know, whatever they're actually doing, they try to give the appearance of what a Jerry Jones wants and it's no way to run an efficient organization.
No, I got a great example right here. They kept telling him Jerry, you keep making too many just shoestring decisions. You can't stabilize anything. So what does he do? He keeps Jason Garrett there for eight years. Yeah. So what does that tell you? When he does make a decision like that, listen, everybody, he does it wrong. Yeah. He needs to go.
Or he did it for spite. I'll show you. I can make a commitment. Keep this guy in here for good. Although Jason Garrett is very good on commentary. Really good. Yeah, he is. I really enjoy him. He's very knowledgeable, very well spoken. He sounds good. He looks good. I mean, he does good. So anyhow.
I can't remember his brother's name. There's another J name. Was it John? I think it's John Garrett. Yeah. Wasn't he a linebacker or a lineman? I think a linebacker. A linebacker. Yeah. And they were replacement players. Yes. Back in the strike of, which strike was that? 85? It was the 87. 87, 87, not 85, 87. Yeah, 87 was the short. Yeah, it was the short in season. One where they put in the scabs.
Yeah. Okay. All righty. Next game. Detroit at Houston. Detroit squeaked it out 26-23 in the turnover bowl. I think Stafford had five interceptions. Five interceptions and still one. What? I think that's the first time that, or the second time that was ever done. Yeah, it's got to be a record. That can't happen very often.
Well it was funny because everyone was talking about how Jared Goff was, you know, having this incredible season. Hardly any interceptions, any touchdowns. And then he comes out and shits the bed and throws five of them, but he still wins. That was more on Texans than it was on Detroit. I'm sorry. Yeah. They had that game in hand so many times. And so did Detroit. They were, oh go ahead.
I was gonna say I was listening to the YouTube commentary of a guy who referred to him as the Houston Strouds
Because if Stroud goes down, they're nothing. Yeah, so they're not the Texans, they're the Strouds
What if he's related to the fried chicken place here?
Yeah, he comes here and gets some chicken. He's like hell yeah, man, it's my family. Fuck you guys
I went to went to school with Teresa Stroud who was related to the Strouds chicken. Did she ever bring in a chicken? No bitch
All right
Okay, and then last game Miami at Los Angeles Rams Miami won 23 to 15
Yeah, we go pick Miami for some reason we both got it right
Well, we thought Miami had enough to muster that and yeah, they're gonna have a little bit of a resurgence
And I don't think either one of us are all that impressed with the Rams
No, no, we both think the Rams are trash, which they are
Yeah, it was actually kind of funny to see him get their ass kicked
Yeah, it kind of was. And the looks of bewilderment was like what? The dolphins? Really?
Yeah, yeah, it was good. Matthew Stafford continued to look ho hum
Yeah, how old is he now? 36? 37 maybe?
I think he's a couple years younger than that. But yeah, he's definitely over 30. He's been around a long time
He could be on the backside of his career very easily. Yeah, so maybe this is what you get from now on
I don't know, but he didn't have a lot of pass protection either. So I true. Yeah
Yeah, that pretty much we didn't expect I didn't expect it to be that score. No
I didn't expect to be an ass-whipping like that. But yeah, you guessed 32 30 and I guess 31 10
You got it closer. Yeah, I was a little closer. I guess I don't know why I gave the Rams only 10 points
You were closer
Anyways, so there we go. You you missed eight. I knew I did and I missed three. So I actually did pretty well this year
Good for you. This week, I mean
But that kind of
Segues us into something we talked about
What starting quarterbacks do you think are going to be backups in three years?
Will Lovis?
Yeah, I had him
Probably now Caleb Williams. Wow, I didn't put him
Well, he's just deteriorating so much. He is. Yeah, he's gonna bear some watching for sure. Yeah
Let's see. Let's go through this now. Okay. Oh young
Young in Carolina. I left him off the list too because he's he's still got a chance
Yeah, he almost made the line last
Yeah, he made my list. He just made my list. Yeah, let's see. Trevor Lawrence. Yep. I got him
Richards. Yep, Richardson and Indian. Richardson. Yeah. Yeah
I put uh, Jones for the Giants Jones. Yeah, not Jerry Jones. Daniel Jones. Yeah
I also put Jamis Winston in Cleveland. Yes. Yeah, because he's showing that he's not all that
No, he's gonna you know, he's starting now, but he'll go back to backup. No, he's gonna be a backup
He's a career backup if he's even in the league
Yeah, I'm sure he's going to be a backup. He's going to be a backup. He's going to be a backup
Yeah
I picked Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold's another one. Yeah. Yeah, I think that
Yeah, I can see in three years Minnesota's moved on to the next guy and he's still there backing him up
I'm confident on all of those except for Kaleb Williams. Yeah
He
Showed potential
But I'm right now I'm going to say that yeah, he's going to be a backup in three or four years or whatever three years
So you got anybody else on the list? The last two I have are Derek Carr. Derek Carr definitely, yes
and
Everybody in Las Vegas. Yes
I don't care who it is. Yes
They're there. Yeah, they're gonna be a backup. Even somebody they haven't signed yet is going to be a backup. Yep
Well, here's a fun fact
The bye weeks started week five
But week five and week six the teams that were on the bye week
Half point or had home games and have had road games but from week seven through this week
Everyone on a bye week has had a road game
Oh, wow. Isn't that weird?
Was that on purpose probably? I don't know
It's like are they punishing him by putting them on the road after a bye week?
Because next week it goes back to half and half. Half on the road, half at home. I think maybe
That that's their way of equaling it out. One team has rested and one has not so you make them go wherever
Yeah for five weeks in a row they're having every bye week team go on the road
I think that they're trying to even it up a little bit. Maybe so, yeah
So that was the only thing I had there and then I had my list of
NFL teams if their season so far could be summed up in a song. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah
Mine is Dallas Cowboys The Beatles I'm a Loser
What I have for the Cowboys I had the Doobie Brothers hit What a Fool Believes
Let's see Carolina who did I have picked I forgot my I forgot my paper on that
Okay. What's Bitten Twice Shy? For Carolina I had the STP song Dead and Bloated
Excellent, true. You want me to just run through mine? Yeah, go ahead and run through them
Okay, let's start AFC West Kansas City it's a tie between Eye of the Tiger and Gunnery's Hell
Either one of those going in. Denver I picked a song by the Bullet Boys called Say Your Prayers
Oh I know that one yes yeah
Los Angeles Chargers Where Have All the Good Times Gone
And of course Las Vegas is Crazy Train
Pittsburgh the Police Song by the Police I'll Be Watching You
Cleveland got a U2 song Running to Stand Still
Oh yeah, you dug on that one. Baltimore It's Now or Never
Elvis It's Now or Never
I love it. And then Cincinnati got a song by Avenged Sevenfold called God Hates Us
That out of all of them all of them were great and I'll bring my list next week because I thought it was in the middle here
but I guarantee I put it in the other podcast. Okay. Anyhow
I like that one out of all of them. I was pretty happy with that one. Okay, Houston
Sweating Pullets. That's a Megadeth song. Yes, yeah I love that one too. Indianapolis I don't know who does this song
but it's Third Great Romance
And that's what Indy's doing to their hometown. Let's see Jacksonville got a Ted Nugent song called
Hibernation. That's what they're doing. Yeah it is.
Tennessee Keith Sweat song Something Just Ain't Right. Oh Keith Sweat
I wonder if he still wears those really tight pants. I think he probably does. I think he does. That's where the sweat comes from. I don't care if he's in the ocean. He's wearing those really tight pants.
Anyhow go ahead. Okay. Buffalo gets a Motley Crue tune Same Old Situation. Oh yeah I love that one.
Miami. Now I was thinking about Tyreek Hill and he's still courting my homes. So his song is I Forgot to Remember to Forget Her.
Again I don't know who does that originally. Their non-response was their response. I loved it.
Nobody said crickets. New England got a Soundgarden song
Fell on Black Days.
Jets got another Soundgarden song Drawing Flies.
They are definitely Drawing Flies. Okay. NSC. I'll try to hurry up a little more. Chicago. That's alright. Got Elton John's I'm Still Standing.
That's a good one. That was before they lost last week. That's a good one though because they are kind of still standing. Yeah.
Green Bay. I picked the Ramones I Wanna Be Sedated.
Detroit. I picked a song by Monster Magnet called Strobe Light Beatdown.
I have no idea what that song is. It's a bonus track on I forget which album. Okay.
The Giants. They got an Alice Cooper song Might As Well Be On Mars.
That is so true. Washington got the Doors classic hit Break On Through. Break On Through.
At Dallas I said What a Fool Believes. Philadelphia. Just because I don't like Philadelphia I gave them a tool song called Hooker with a Penis.
That's an actual song. You can find it on Enema. Enema. What an album.
Tampa Bay. They get John Lennon's Just Like Starting Over.
Atlanta. Atlanta I gave them Queen's Don't Stop Me Now. I think they will bounce back. I think they will too.
The Giants got a song by Faith No More Falling To Pieces. Oh yeah. This is on the unsung album that we love. Was it Angel Dust?
No that was on the real thing. That was on the real thing.
Seattle got another U2 song I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For.
Do you know Smith Is It Hit? I guess not. Arizona. They got a Janet Jackson song What Have You Done For Me Lately.
I like that. San Francisco got another Monster Magnet song This Is God Says No.
For the Rams it could either be by Devo or by Evanescence but the song is Going Under. I remember Buffalo Bills.
The Buffalo Bills I Had No More Tears. That would be a good one.
I'll bring the list in. I'm pretty sure it's in the Douchebags list. I put it in the wrong list.
That's all I got. You got some bullet points? Yes I do. Bullet me.
The first one we already covered, Starting Quarterbacks. It will be a backup in three years.
The next one here really intrigues me because I started swaying on my opinion on this.
I started reading exactly what he was saying and putting a little bit more into it.
You can't judge a Mahomes or a Brady or someone like that against anyone else because they are so good at motivation and how they say things.
But Burrow is getting heat again post conference after loss to the Ravens.
He was asked about his feelings on the loss. Burrow said it's a tough pill to swallow.
Himself, Jamar Chase and the Higgins are all playing well.
He basically left everyone else out. That's really wrong.
Is he right? We're about to play call him. He missed a few opportunities as well.
Two third and two yards and he threw long and missed. Was that him? Was that the coach?
You got to think he'd have a dump off guy that at least was there to get him the first down.
He was making mistakes too. He had every opportunity to win that game.
So that right there is now what people are saying I'm starting to agree with.
It was subtle before and now he's just blatantly coming out and saying it. He's throwing his whole team under the bus.
Wow. Is he looking for, is he building the groundwork for a trade that he has from Cincinnati?
I think so. He doesn't want to say it.
No, no. He wouldn't come out and say it. That's for much later.
I mean not a trade this year but an off season trade.
I think that's what he's positioning for. I think behind the scenes they might know.
But they're not letting it be known for a lot of different reasons and you can guess most of them.
He'll be like Brady and go to the NFC because he didn't want to have to face Mahomes in the Super Bowl.
Yes. At that time you just take your chances.
He could wind up in Carolina next year.
Oh, that would be nice.
This was very telling. What people are saying are actually I think correct now.
Before remember we were like going, they're kind of nitpicking and he's just kind of deflecting the question and pooping it.
No, I think they're right.
This is blatantly, the whole team is playing like shit except for us three.
You see serious cracks in that organization now. Just like you do in the Jets, the Cowboys.
I think Zach Taylor has an issue too. I think that he doesn't know how to handle a certain amount of success.
He doesn't know how to keep it.
Yeah, yeah. Think about running and you're running about as fast as you possibly can and you're just starting to win.
So now you got to give more. It's like I'm already at my limit, man.
This is the best I can do and it's not quite good enough.
That's got to be a bitter pill to swallow.
I'm pretty sure he got deflated and then he just lost his way.
I mean he could maybe be good later but I don't know if it's going to be with this team.
Yeah, and he could look at other positions, coordinator positions or front office positions.
I think that that's probably what he'll have to go to after this.
Because if you examine a guy that made it to the Super Bowl, lost miserably and then never made it back or sniffed it.
I mean the closest they did were the championship game in Kansas City and because that team was poorly coached,
they got that head out of bounds which led to Arm.
But Buckner was probably going to nail it anyhow, let's be honest.
But all they did was cement it when he hit him out of bounds.
We all breathe the little easier.
Yeah, it's like okay we're going to make it.
And I remember thinking I only heard two bombs going off.
Remember I think we said something and I go oh that's not very good because you had the game on pause.
Remember we're catching up with it.
I only heard two aerial bombs and I'm like oh shit those are Cincinnati fans, we lost.
Somebody's like we lost but I'm going to fire this sucker anyway.
Yeah, it's like there's only two of them but actually I think people ran out of fucking artillery or something.
Or they were so exhausted by the end of the game.
That could have been, they were like oh fuck it I'm staying in here.
So anyhow, but that was a nice surprise.
I was like oh fuck man we lost but we do now.
So anyhow, yeah okay I think you're right.
I think he is positioning for a trade.
You're not going to read that, you're not going to hear that but it's going to come out.
Yeah, I'm not going to be surprised when it happens.
No.
They probably already have the teams they're going to talk to.
Yeah, I think he would, working from this early in the game,
he's probably got the luxury of picking a few teams and having his agent go and talk to the teams, talk to the general managers.
Did he re-sign? Did he do his huge contract? Yeah he did, didn't he?
Yeah, it was right after Mahomes.
It was.
Because he complained that Mahomes took too little and it screwed him out of money.
Yes, I remember that.
Which is another thing that I thought was shitty.
Yeah, that's just childish.
Well all that tells you is why Mahomes keeps winning and he doesn't.
Yeah, get a clue dude. What we're doing here is obviously working.
Yes, maybe you need to see a little of it yourself.
So anyhow, okay. The next one.
With the season probably going to 18 games, should the playoffs expand, shrink or stay the same?
Interesting.
There's a lot to be said for adding to it.
If you add more teams then you could have more teams with the first round five.
Uh huh. It's going to be a challenge to do it though.
Because of the way the system is set up.
One team gets a week off, the teams that perform the best get a week off, nobody else does.
So how is that going to be with the two champion teams with the best record of each league?
They're going to get two weeks off? Do you want to do that? Do they want to do that?
A simple way to do it would be have on each side have all four division winners get a first round bye.
So if you win the AFC West, first round bye. AFC South, first round bye.
And then everybody who plays in the first week are all wild card teams.
Okay, then?
And then the second week you get all the wild card teams playing a division winner.
And then you do the seeding from there.
Okay, I'm for that. I'd like to add more teams into it.
And there are going to be more upsets and more surprises.
Yeah, yeah. That would give you 16 teams playing eight games in the wild card round.
Now that they have a hundred different services.
Here at Netflix you get yours, here at Amazon you get yours, here at Paramount you get yours.
That's the only thing I wouldn't like about it. It's going to be segregated everywhere.
And that would mean that only eight teams don't make the playoff each year, which would be kind of weird.
Yeah, and then they could maybe do something with the draft according to that too.
No, no, no, no, no, I'd change that. I love the draft the way it is.
I do too.
Yeah, I don't want to do anything with the draft. It's perfect.
But they could do another thing like we talked in a previous episode. If they add another game, then make it two halves of a season.
And each half counts for something.
Like you win the first half of the season, that counts. And you win the second half of the season, that counts.
And then you could go by opponents, face-offs, whatever.
Yeah, rather than just overall record at the end of the season, give us something halfway through the season.
Where, okay, this is going to mean something come playoff time because we won the first half of the season.
Because the Chiefs would have just nailed the first round.
And then, you know what, if San Diego is playing really well or Denver is playing really well, we falter a little bit.
They have the option of maybe taking our seed.
Or if you win the first half of your season, you are guaranteed a playoff spot.
Yeah, yeah, I like that. There's all different kinds of ways to do it.
But I think what we're talking about along those lines, something like that would be perfect.
It would make the season more exciting for everybody.
Like, let's say Carolina suddenly got their shit together.
They could be like, wow, we could actually win the second half of the season and get into the playoffs.
Chicago.
Baseball teams can do that.
Yes, they can.
Football teams can't because there aren't as many games.
Baseball game, you have 160 games. You've got all this time to make up.
But it's also excruciating too when someone like the Royals start faltering a little bit two weeks out like they did this year.
But luckily, Cleveland, not Cleveland, Minnesota faltered worse.
So anyhow, but there was a there was a guy who ran the simulation of a football season if we played 162 games like baseball.
Uh huh.
And that would have took 10 years to the simulation, but to be one season's worth.
And then when you get to the playoffs, we're trying to we are going to do that at work.
So it's going to go into the playoffs. I'm going to play.
Yeah, let's see. First round is best of three.
Second round is best of five.
OK, the conference championship games are best of seven.
And then the Super Bowl is just one game.
Yeah.
And he said, but and then each each 16 games, he would increase the fatigue and injury risk.
Yeah.
And by the by the time he got through the 162 games, each team had about 40 players on high armor.
And each team had like maybe one or two players you recognized and the rest were just nobody.
Wow, I could see that too. So easily.
I mean, look at this season. First, it was wide receivers.
And now it's a defensive backs.
I mean, it's like the most physical positions.
You can just go around and around and start predicting who's going to start getting the hammies and all that.
Yeah. So that's something they definitely have to look at if they're going to extend the season.
Yeah.
Even if they put in like a second bye week, you're not really helping that much.
No, you're not. No, it's it's taping up a huge hole in the dam.
Yeah. That extra week. There's nothing really you can recover from in just a week.
You know, this format right here, bullet points, is one of the best radio sections, I think, in sports. Of all the sports talk.
I dig it.
This thing is awesome.
It's amazing.
Yeah. And the best part is you don't tell me in advance what they are.
I know. That's the beauty of it because you think about it right then and you come up with a good answer. It's great.
And if it helps anything, I forget the questions I write anyhow.
I do this earlier in the week when I have some time, when I have a couple of days off.
And then by the time we get there, that's like I told you, is excruciating. All this shit happens afterwards.
I'm like, well, should I save it for next time or do we bring it up this, you know?
Yeah. Yeah.
All right.
That deadline gets you sometimes.
This next one's intriguing too. And I thought of this one night.
Okay. No pot involved. This is just a regular thought.
No alcohol. Nothing.
Okay. Europe expansion is looking likely in the coming years.
Should the NFL have to compensate them for having to live out of the country half a year or more?
The players that are in London or Germany.
Oh, good point. I would think they would, it would be helpful if the NFL could smooth some regulation or legislation to make it so it's not so difficult.
Because you're going to have to pay taxes in two different countries.
Yeah. Because right now the NFL players have to pay taxes in every state they play a game in each season.
Yeah.
So they're filing income tax in like 10 different states.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So.
Yeah. I would think the NFL would have the muscle to lobby for some laws that would make it easier and more convenient for their players to live overseas for part of the year and have it not be a thing.
I was kind of proud of this question because I'm pretty sure before you sign a contract like that, that's one of the things that you talk about.
It's like, well, wait a minute. I'm going to be over in Germany for six months.
Yeah.
I don't want to be over there for six months. My family's here. Everything I own is here.
So I think it might be a deal where they're like, all right, here's what we're going to do for you.
We're going to have all these places rented for you in this area.
All expenses paid and allowance and then your salary.
Yeah, that would work.
Like I used to do when I was out of town.
Okay, we're going to pay for all your food. We're going to pay for your car. We're going to pay for your place to stay.
That's just, you know, because you're doing that. You're leaving your home and going there for a month.
Yeah, yeah. Everything, all the inconveniences of being away from home are paid for.
Yeah, per diem.
Yeah.
So yeah, I was really proud of that question.
I can work.
I mean, it doesn't come off as much, but I was really proud of that question because I was like, that is something I'll bet you that nobody thinks about that happens.
I imagine none of the players are thinking about that yet.
No, I bet you they will though when they get down to it.
Okay. Do you feel like there might be an untapped talent in Europe and the expansion could lead to an influx of talent?
I don't think so.
Go ahead.
I think there'll be talent at certain positions.
I think you can find...
Kickers.
Kickers, definitely. And I think you can also find...
The Zeke.
Linebackers.
Yeah, because you can find somebody with that kind of drive and personality and physique and then teach them what they don't already know about American football.
I think that there is talent, but I don't think an influx of talent is going to be the word.
I think they're going to have talent trickling in from there, but I don't think it's going to be a huge influx because they're just not into it and they don't have the same talent requirements for football.
I think if the European part of the NFL starts to succeed, then in 10 years it will be...
And then you'll see the influx of talent.
Because then people start planning ahead. It's like, hey, this is taking off. In five years, I could be there, so I'm working towards it now.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay. All right.
Apparently they have kicking academies in Australia where they can train up kickers.
Yeah, isn't that weird?
Yeah.
People went to them too.
And why not? Because all these kickers come to America and get these rich contracts and then they go home to Australia and spend that money.
Yeah.
That's the name of the game, isn't it?
Yeah, it is.
You'll earn your money somewhere else and go spend it at home.
Yeah.
We presume we'll be seeing Adolf Dirk Schneider at the safety.
All right. Let's see. And of course I pick on Dirk Schneider.
Yes.
You love my Dirk and the Schneider, man.
Udo.
Okay, if you know, you know.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay.
And I'm half German and I'm not offended, so.
Okay.
I think on my dad's side there might be a little German. I'm not for sure.
Yeah.
So many other. Definitely Scottish. I know that.
I remember one girl at work said that she came up to me and said, I have a little German in me. And I said, really? What's his name?
And are you sure you want to use the word little? Maybe you don't want to use that in front of him.
Maybe you should say somewhat.
Okay.
Like I always used to heard, everything's little in retrospect.
If you're going up to something that gets mighty and huge, then maybe it is little.
All right. I don't know about mighty. Yeah. Mighty smell.
That's another podcast. Yes.
It's a douche bags.
Oh, I didn't mean to go.
Cross pollination.
Yes. But we are her on base favorite.
He was alive. He would be listening to us.
Yeah. Same with peanut. The squirrel.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
What? What? What? Fuckheads.
Yeah. And the woman who called in the complaint that got the squirrel and the raccoon taken away and killed, she was bragging about it on social media. So everyone got her identified.
And now she's had to move and go into hiding.
Good. Yeah. Good. What a piece of shit.
Bragging that she got a couple of little innocent animals killed.
Someone come after my animal. I would not guarantee their safety.
I know what you mean.
I'm not afraid to say that either.
No, you touch my fucking animals, you might die.
That's the way it is.
And I'm proud of that.
No, no kidding. I'm not ashamed to say that.
I'd gladly fucking take someone out before they did any of my animals.
So, OK. All right.
Seems like the NFL has sexy picks for the Super Bowl every year. We talked about this a little bit on the way down.
Yeah.
This changes with the season. For example, the Ravens were the first sexy pick.
Yeah.
Then the Bills became one. Now it's the Lions after Minnesota shit themselves.
Yeah.
Why is it that the prevailing champs never seem to be the sexy pick once they become acclimated to be in that number one seed for a little while, like the Patriots?
I think the public would perceive that as the lazy pick.
You know, there's a lot to be said for that.
Yeah.
It's just like my picks. The reason I lost eight is because I didn't pick the sexy pick.
Yeah.
Yeah. I think it's a combination of, you know, if you're picking the previous champ, they're like, eh, you didn't put much thought into it.
Plus the fact that there's never been a three-time Super Bowl champion.
So, the odds of the Chiefs doing it this year are pretty small just based on that.
Yeah.
So that would make more likely to pick someone other than the Chiefs.
The injuries too.
Oh my God.
The injuries, probably a lot of people are like, oh, I don't know about that.
I don't think at the beginning of the season people would have thought that we'd have this huge an impact of injuries.
No, I don't think so either, but I mean, we're getting Pacheco back.
And Amenahue back.
Amenahue back and maybe Juju.
No, nice.
Now that's going to be a really good receiving core once again.
Yeah.
And then at the end of the year if we get Hollywood Brown back, we're not going to get Rice back this year.
He's out for the year.
But yeah, I heard something about Brown might be available by the end of the year.
By the end of the playoff.
Playoff!
Yeah.
So anyhow, suddenly we are formidable again, even though we were.
We were winning when we didn't have anybody.
Yeah.
So, but I just love that one-two punch.
Since we are a run-first team and it's been proven and everyone's documented it now, Sports Illustrated even took it up.
Yeah, we are a run-first team now.
We're not a pass-first team.
We do what works.
So now you're going to have Pacheco in hunt.
Yeah.
Nice.
And P. Ryan on the third round, on the third downs.
Yeah.
And I think that's going to squeeze Edwards Allaire off the roster.
They love him and it's something to do with his PTHD.
PTSD.
Yeah.
For whatever reason, if he's not able to perform and do the job, then they're not obligated
to keep employing him, but get him help, you know.
They want to keep supporting him.
But keeping him because they like him.
I can tell you that right now.
Yeah.
But I did hear Spagnolo the other day saying that they've got so many defensive players
injured.
That they're still keeping on the roster and keeping, you know, paying.
It's like, you know, we can't afford even one more.
We can't afford it anymore.
We're going to have to start cutting people.
Yeah.
So that's.
And Edwards Allaire, unfortunately, he will be one of them.
He'll be one of them, yeah.
Because you've got an absolute roster size limit.
Yes.
Yeah.
So that's going to happen.
And it speaks wonders for the organization, doesn't it?
An organization that has a heart but still wins.
It has a halfway decent practice squad.
Yes.
It can still win.
That always helps, doesn't it?
Yes, it does.
God bless the practice squad.
Yes.
All right.
Next one.
Are Tampa Bay going to make some noise if they get into the playoffs?
I'd say no.
I would say no either.
Yeah.
A couple weeks ago I would have said yes, but.
No.
They have just dissolved.
I used to love Todd Voles, but ever since the Chiefs game where he didn't go for a two,
I lost a little bit of respect for him.
Yeah.
I was like, no.
I wanted the Chiefs to win, but I was like, do the Voles call.
Yeah.
Say, we're going to win it.
We don't care who you are.
We're going to win it right now.
And they lost.
Yeah.
And I think part of Baker Mayfield's dismay was that call when we won the toss and that
look, and he goes, you know, he admitted we were losing, right?
Yeah.
That they were losing right then.
Yeah.
I think part of it was, you should have fucking let me try it.
Yep.
The prevailing wisdom, as I've learned, is if you're on the road, you go for the win.
Yes.
No, if you're on the road.
You go for the win.
If you're the home team, you go for the tie.
You go for the tie.
But that can be modified by who you're playing in conditions and injuries and that kind of
thing.
So.
If you're playing Carolina, maybe you go for the tie.
Yeah.
You don't care, but you're not worried about overtime.
But with Mahomes, you do not want to get overtime.
No.
That's it.
Everybody wants to be in overtime.
It's been proven.
The guy does not lose in overtime.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact, what he does, he does 10 times in overtime.
Yeah.
Look at the Super Bowl.
San Francisco had to kick a field goal.
You knew.
Yeah.
Even the commentators were like, oh no.
Now Mahomes has all the time in the world to go down there and get a touchdown.
Yeah.
Everybody knew.
Yep.
Kyle Shanahan knew.
And he had a certainty of knowing that that's all you have to do and you win.
You don't have to do anything more than just that.
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah.
What a position to be in.
Yes.
It is so great to be a Chiefs fan right now.
Oh, I know.
It's going to suck when Mahomes is done.
Oh.
It's going to suck so bad.
Well, I think I'm going to move.
Yeah.
I'm loving it now.
I'm moving.
When Mahomes is done, I'm moving.
And I know when the Chiefs eventually can't do this anymore, so many people are going
to have fun jumping on our grave.
Oh, they're going to be all over us.
They're going to be dancing on our bones.
He got you.
Yep.
So we've got to be ready to put up with that because we're enjoying the good times now.
By the time when we have our 20 Super Bowl rings, we won't be there.
We're going to have to catch up with this bitch.
Yep.
All right.
Next one.
What dark horse could go all the way?
Playoffs.
Yeah.
I'm going to stick with Pittsburgh.
I like it.
Yeah.
I don't really see them winning the division.
They could if Baltimore has a meltdown, but I think Pittsburgh is getting in as a wild
card and be like the Raiders of old by coming in as a wild card and getting way farther
than everyone thought they should.
So I can see Pittsburgh causing a lot of trouble in the AFC.
And then in the NFC.
I'm saying Washington still.
Washington.
But if you want somebody who's a little farther out of the limelight.
Well, I was going from the first thing here and how people projected it.
But yeah, go ahead.
That's true.
But yeah.
Go ahead with what you're saying.
Man.
It's going to be crossed between Atlanta and San Francisco, I think, as a chance to come
roaring back.
Yeah.
And you're talking about from here on because there are records.
Yeah.
I think San Fran more because they look so – they're not getting Ayub back.
He's out for the season.
McCaffrey was back.
Yeah.
He played reasonably well, but I think a lot of their success depends on McCaffrey.
They're a different team when he's in there.
Yeah.
He's like the Chiefs run first and then the past game was easier.
Yeah.
McCaffrey is all of it, but the thing is he cannot stay healthy.
True.
This was a knock on him when he left.
Carolina.
Yeah.
I was like, OK, go ahead.
But when they traded him, they were like –
And now he's been diagnosed with Achilles tendonitis in both legs, which is something
that you can never fix.
It never gets better, but they can help him manage it.
Yeah.
So you know his clock is running out at this point.
And also he can get better but not get completely better.
Right.
He'll never get back to where he was.
Yeah.
So they can still do well, and I can still see him going well, but I don't see about
all the way.
But I don't even necessarily know when I roped this.
I've been all the way to the Super Bowl.
I meant just getting down there, getting digging in.
Making some noise.
Breaking some hearts in the playoffs.
There is a good way to put it.
Like doing a Marty Schottenheimer.
A reverse Schottenheimer.
Yes.
There we go.
All right.
Next one.
Mahomes get ankle injuries a lot, but never goes out of a game.
Is he just that tough right now?
But as he ages, will this be a possible problem?
It could because tissues and stuff gets more inflexible as we get older.
But I remember watching him on that documentary series called Quarterback.
That was great.
Yeah.
And we got a glimpse into some of his training, regimen, and flexibility is an enormous part
of it.
And he would put himself in a really awkward position and then flex at a weird angle.
So he gets his body accustomed to some of the tangles and twists that happen.
Because his muscles and tendons are already accustomed to stretching that way.
Yeah.
And then they have the strength to hold and not get stretched beyond their limit.
So it's a ton of preparation.
And as long as that holds up, I think his ankles are going to be okay.
I think, yeah.
You want to go back to Joan Ameth.
His ankles were so bad that he basically was immobile in the pocket.
And that only worked some of the time.
Yeah, some of the time.
Yeah.
I mean his arm and his brain still had it, but he just couldn't move.
The thing that I'm thinking is, is they're going to try to flush some of that out of
him as he gets older.
Yeah.
And they're just going to be like, listen, we're going to get the tools around you.
You're going to be a pocket passer.
Only run absolutely necessary.
Kind of like he did the quarterback sneak until he hurt his knee in Denver.
Yeah.
Now you never see it unless it's a playoffs.
Playoffs?
Yeah.
I think another thing, they can change the game plan to where an outlet receiver is always,
always, always there.
So there's always somebody to throw it to instead of scampering off and getting tangled up like
he's playing twister with the defense.
I think when he hits 32, 33, you're going to see that.
Yeah.
They're just going to be like, no, you're not the same guy.
You have ankle issues, obviously.
You're getting by with him now, but we don't see it going on forever.
So yeah.
The only thing is, well, Mahomes let it be taken out of him because he is such a competitor
and such a, such a tough spirit.
Yeah.
I think as long as we're winning, he'll be all right with it.
And you know, I could see after Kelsey retires, I could see them getting like possession tight
end.
The guy who's always within about five to 10 yards of the line.
That's about the only way.
And is always available to throw to.
Unless you find that next Kelsey, that's what you're going to have to do.
Yeah, some teams use the tight end as a vertical threat.
And I think, you know, Kelsey's definitely was that not so much anymore.
No, but you see him more perimeter guy now.
You need 12 yards.
There he is.
Yeah.
Tight end drag across the middle is this is a stable.
Yeah.
It's just how far out you put the drag.
I mean, you can use to go field five yards or 15 yards or whatever, but he used to compete
with Hill on the distance.
Yeah.
Now he's not doing that.
But I mean, actually, Hill doesn't look that good either.
No.
Is he injured a little bit or something?
I didn't notice that he seemed injured.
He just looked like, you know, he wants just another starting receiver in the NFL.
They're all really good athletes, but he doesn't stand out as much as he used to.
He used to break free.
Even if he was getting double teamed, he still got free.
Break free.
Yeah.
I can't do it as high as Freddie.
Oh, God, no.
I modulated down a little bit.
The only way they could do it that high with Freddie was John Deacon of Queen.
He did all that falsetto in the background.
Yeah.
That was not Freddie.
It's like Michael Anthony did all the high background vocals from Van Halen.
For Van Halen, yeah.
People don't realize that.
And when Elton John wanted to write songs and sing in higher registers, he would go
to a recording studio called the Caribou Ranch.
No, he'd go way up in the mountains where the air is thinner.
Oh, really?
And your vocal cords move more freely in that thin air, just like you can kick a field goal
farther.
Your vocal cord cords move more freely, and you can sing higher notes.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
And then he'd come back down to her C level and try to sing it.
He's like, oh, shit, I have to go on tour and sing that?
Get the helium.
All right.
Next one.
Will Miami re-sign Tyreek?
I don't think so.
Whether they want to or not, I don't think they will.
I don't think so.
Even if they want to, I don't think they'll be able to.
I think he's going to seek greener pastures somewhere else.
Yeah.
And I don't buy his love of Miami and love of Tua, because he said that before, and he'll
say it again about somebody else.
He double crosses him every chance he gets.
He just double crossed him.
When we got DeAndre Hopkins, he put up Chief Signe de Hopkins, and then he put up a, what
was it, was it sad face or a question emoji?
Like what?
And then put up the phone, like call me.
That's disrespect.
Yeah.
He's like the girl who always has to have a boyfriend and always says he's the one,
and then a week or two later she's looking for the next guy.
Yeah.
And then when she lands him, oh, he's the one.
He's perfect.
He's so on of some.
Yeah.
And then a week or two later she's looking again.
Yeah.
You knew a girl like that in high school.
Oh, we all knew a girl like that in high school.
Yeah.
I'm just sure there were guys like that too.
Yeah.
That's kind of how I look at Tyreek.
Me too, and I think he's become kind of like a joke.
Yeah.
I think people are kind of like not taking him seriously anymore.
Like, yeah, he can play, but is he there to win or is he there just for Tyreek?
I think he's kind of proven he's there for Tyreek.
And I think he doesn't really realize how transparent he's being.
I don't think he does either.
He thinks he's fooling at least some of us, but no, you're not.
Yeah.
Yep.
I agree.
Tyreek.
All right.
Is Tua Tagogaiolo the real deal if he has a strong enough cast around him?
I think so.
Me too.
He's got a great pass.
Yeah.
He seems to be a decent leader.
They're a different team with him in there.
If I were head coach, I would be fine with him leading the team into a Super Bowl.
I would too.
As long as he has the surrounding cast and he's not getting his head banged up.
But yeah.
He's a good guy.
Oh, I know.
He's already going to suffer from just the concussions he's got.
I pray to God he doesn't get hit in the head ever again.
He needs to wear that special helmet.
The guardian helmet he refuses.
Yeah.
That's just okay.
Is it because he doesn't look cool?
I guess.
I don't know.
Who gives a damn?
I don't know.
Maybe his vision isn't as good or something.
I don't know.
It's a little heavier when you're whipping your head back and forth to look at receivers.
It can be something you have to get used to.
It probably does hamper.
You can get used to it.
Just wear it in practice.
You'll get used to it.
Yeah.
Well.
His choice.
But I agree with you.
He's the type of guy that needs everybody around him.
But he could do it, I think.
Yeah.
But he needs everybody around him.
So yeah.
Now that's the last of those.
Yeah.
I think Trevor Lawrence used to be that guy.
Uh-huh.
But I think even now on a really good team, Trevor Lawrence is going to be a weak link.
He is.
And the reason is because he was mishandled and mismanaged.
Yeah.
And he just, I don't know if it's the drive that they instilled in him and the lack of.
Or.
Oh, go ahead.
Plus, I was going to say we don't know how he was treated after each of those important
losses.
Was he yelled at?
Was he blamed?
Was he guilted?
I mean, what went on in the organization?
How did they deal with those devastating losses, especially to the Chiefs?
Yeah.
That might have been something that kind of ruined him.
Yeah.
I wonder how much he, you know, you can kind of see the apathy now.
So something did that.
Yeah.
Something did that.
So.
I watched a show about Jamarcus Russell, the Raiders quarterback who just gained, gained,
gained weight.
Yeah.
Uh, it turned out from age 14, one of the male family members got him, uh, introduced
him to, uh, codeine cough syrup mixed in a fruity drink.
Oh, they call it syrup or something.
Or lean or, or a drink or something.
Anyway, from age 14, he was hitting that.
And he was doing, kind of doing okay, kind of handling it until, uh, within the course
of a year, his, his mother died.
And then an uncle that he, he felt like was a brother to him because they were so close
in age, he also died.
And then he was having a really bad time in the Raiders organization.
It was being really mistreated by the coach.
Oh, I knew that because there's a lot of stuff that come out.
Was that a, is that Cal?
No, that one Callahan.
Callahan, this guy after that.
Right after that.
I can't think of his name.
But he said he, he used to stay home and just, you know, from the time he woke up to the
time he fell asleep, he was just drinking that codeine cough syrup and trying to just
not deal with anything because his whole world had fallen apart around him.
Wow.
And the coach was, was harassing him, bullying him and treating him like shit and, uh, um,
didn't even want to know what was going on.
Wasn't even interested in trying to help him.
And he said that kind of the turning point was they were in practice and the coach was,
uh, was reaming him out about stuff.
And he, he said politely, but firmly said, nobody ever talks to me like that.
You don't get to talk to me like that.
That's disrespectful and wrong.
And you know, we can talk about things, that kind of thing, you know, just kind of told
him, let's be adults about it.
And he said the coach just smirked at him.
And then he started going out of his way to be all sugary and nice.
Oh, just being a dick for sissies.
Yeah.
And he's like, okay, look at, look at, look at J Rock here.
He's, oh yeah, look at him doing a really good job blocking here.
And Jermarcus said he stepped up, stood up and yelled, that's right, bitch.
That's the fucking way you talk to somebody.
And he said he never started a game from that point on.
His career was done.
Wow.
Yeah.
I don't blame Jermarcus though.
In the press, all we heard was he's lazy.
He's, he's a pig.
He's eating too much.
He can't control himself.
He's a clown.
He's a moron.
There was spin doctors.
Yeah.
We got not even a hint that this poor guy was going through hell.
And the only way he could deal with it was this drug that was fattening him up.
Wow.
Yeah.
So Jermarcus Russell got a royal screwing by the Raiders organization.
That doesn't surprise me.
I mean, it is the Raiders.
Yeah.
They're not really the type to go out of their way to help somebody.
No, no.
I think next time we come down here, we need to make up a fake sports banner of some fake
station that doesn't exist.
That way everyone runs by, goes out there and tries to hear it.
Yeah.
We'll put up the call letters except one of them won't be a real letter.
Yeah.
Pretty like AI.
AI.
K.A.J. squiggle.
1750 on the AM.
And 86.5 on the FM.
Like, ah.
I must have it over radio.
I can't get that.
We need to do that just one time just to screw with people.
Yeah.
We can tell them our podcast, our visual video podcast is on UHF channel 117.
You have fun with those old over the air TVs.
Yeah, you don't get it.
UHF.
I think it only went up to what, 88 or something.
88 or something.
I haven't seen it.
Yeah.
So we'll tell them it's on 117.
Yeah.
That's probably up to the cell phone frequencies.
Might be.
Yeah.
Either that or surface to air missiles.
Surface to air missiles.
I don't know.
We heard something about Demarcus Russell, but did you watch that?
Oh, man.
All righty.
Well, we got to get to the next podcast because of time constraints.
Yep.
So.
Let's wrap this one up.
We're wrapping this bitch up.
Put the bow on it and say fuck off.
Bye.
Good thing this abortion is free.
Who the hell would pay a dime for this shit?
Did you really sit down and listen to all that garbage that was being, do you actually
believe one inch of it?
I didn't think so.
Hang on.
Game over.