From the deep inside the bowels of the city market in Kansas City, Missouri downtown property
to the banks of the beautiful crystal blue waters of the Missouri River
it is the original two, Topher and Mark, given the 2024 football predictions for the season.
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Only it would be real, instead of working normally.
Yeah, but that never did happen. But anyhow, it was just cool enough, you know.
Yeah.
Alright, whenever you're ready, I'm ready.
I fired it up about eight seconds ago.
Oh, okay.
I didn't catch anything incriminating.
Okay, that's good.
Lord knows there's plenty that we say on air that's incriminating enough.
Oh yeah, well, I mean, not only do I have some more bullet points that I'm pretty proud of,
but I have the top ten worst trades ever, according to CVS.com.
CVS Sports.com.
Oh, okay.
I've got an idea of who's probably on that list. I'll save it until we get there.
Oh, you do know, you do know. We've talked about it many times.
It was one of the biggest fuck-ups ever in football, and it will reign probably champion forever.
Yeah.
Anyhow, we'll go into that later.
So, you're probably going to start off with a Thursday night game, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, well, I got a little, go ahead, we'll go into that,
and then I got a little report on that game and what happened afterwards.
Oh, cool, okay.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
All right, well, our first game was Minnesota at the Rams.
The final score was the Rams 30 to 20.
We both picked Minnesota.
I know, I was so pissed too, I listened to the rebroadcast, well, I listened to the broadcast afterwards.
I almost picked the Rams.
I was really going, you know, the Rams are going to sack up somewhere,
but I thought Minnesota would just have enough fortitude to hold them off.
Yeah, I think I was putting too much faith in that 5-0 start.
Yeah, Sam Darnold. That's what I said, and I should have went for that.
At some point, Sam Darnold is going to be Sam Darnold.
It's going to be Sam Darnold, yeah.
Well, a day late and a dollar short for me.
Yeah.
Oh, well, yeah.
Interesting, because the Rams aren't out of it by any means.
No, no, I heard, and I agree, a guy on TV saying that they could definitely see the Rams making a playoff push,
especially since the NFC West is really up for grabs.
That's the deal right there.
Yeah.
So who's their main competition? Maybe Arizona, who else?
I wouldn't count San Francisco out just yet.
No, San Francisco is probably going to get the number one seed, even as bad as they look at times this year.
Yeah, I could see that.
Yeah, because even San Fran with their depleted squad is better than a lot of the teams.
Yeah.
I mean, they won this week, so now they're even at four and four.
Okay, yeah, I was trying to look up at their record.
They're on my week next week, so I didn't have it written down there.
Yeah, and they need one.
Yeah, they do.
Okay, well, the non-call, look, Minnesota was going to lose this game anyhow.
Yeah.
They were not going to win.
It was almost statistically impossible by the number of seconds you have.
Yeah.
So unless something crazy happened like two fumbles, onside kick.
No, they already did the onside kick, didn't they?
I am so lost on onside kicks.
I forgot.
I saw one that didn't go well, but I can't remember if it was that one.
Well, whatever the case was, okay, so they were going to lose it anyhow,
but that face mask in the end zone.
Yeah.
Now, a face mask in the end zone, do you get points for that or not?
No, I don't think a defensive penalty in the end zone does anything except the yards and the down, et cetera, et cetera.
It's when the offense commits a penalty in their own end zone, that's when you can get into a safety.
Yeah, they would probably get the ball on the one-foot line or something, right, for that, or half the distance.
No, it was the quarterback got face masked, right, in his own end zone?
Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
So they hit 15 yards in the first down.
Yeah, Sam Darnold is the one that got face masked.
Yeah.
But, I mean, you can also go, it was an incidental contact, but I mean.
I saw the player jump up immediately and look sick.
He's like, oh my God, I pulled his face mask, I know I'm going to get nailed.
Yeah, I believed.
He looked like he expected to get the 15 yarder.
Yeah, and I was surprised he didn't, but then again, I can't say that Minnesota was not going to win that game anyhow.
Yeah.
But.
Realistically, people, this is what you signed on for when you were okay with gambling and football.
Exactly, yeah.
So if you don't like that, then too bad.
And it's not a sports league, it is legally an entertainment league, and entertainment can script itself.
So they're not doing anything illegal if they're fixing games.
And this one, maybe they just decided, you know what, let's just get out of this game.
We're not going to call this.
Let's just seal it up and get on to the next one.
Yeah, I agree.
You can get mad about that, but it's going to keep happening because they can.
And they're going to do what makes them money.
Exactly.
Yeah, until the gamblers say, you know what, we're tired of betting on fixed outcomes.
They're going to have to change some things up.
We all know that.
I mean, it's just the way it is.
But right now, why wouldn't they just keep doing what they're doing?
It's working.
We're still watching.
We're still talking about it.
We're still buying jerseys.
We're talking about it.
Yeah, we're still buying jerseys.
And number one, we're still betting on it.
Yep.
So.
They're not going to make any changes.
No, no.
The NFL officiating crew for the Los Angeles Rams victory over the Minnesota Vikings on
Thursday night got the business from all corners of the Internet.
Well, it seems like you're very familiar with lasik eye surgery, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK, and so have I.
Officials were blasted online for a Miss Space Max penalty that would have been called on
Rams defensive lineman Byron Young after he got a hold of Vikings quarterback Sam Darnall.
Yeah.
So what they had is there's this company in Minnesota and I don't know if it has anything
to do, you know, with any how.
I don't think it gave the name of the company per se.
They said better vision, better calls.
The corrective eye surgery company wrote on X, lasik, offering lasik surgery to all of
the officials.
Well, the company my wife works for just merged with an eye.
That's what I was saying.
I didn't know if you wanted to mention that.
So I don't know if it was the same one or not.
Could be.
They're huge.
It could be.
Yeah.
This is what they said.
Like I said, they didn't give the company name.
Yes, we are literally offering all NFL referees free modern lasik.
Nominate a ref and get a special discount.
The company wrote.
That's an excellent, excellent public relations move.
Yes.
Now I've seen a still frame from video.
It would have been the back judge that should have called that.
And it shows the back judge in the back of the end zone looking right at the quarterback
while his face mask is getting pulled.
And the caption was the back judge said after the game, oh, I didn't see it.
He was looking right at it.
He's standing right there looking at it.
So, you know, isn't it obvious?
He was doing what he was told to do.
Well, yeah.
He's not making it up on his own.
It's not like the officials are deciding between themselves.
He's doing what he's been told to do.
Yes.
And here's another thing, too.
I hear all these people going, oh, well, that was in real time.
How can you judge it?
It happened in split second.
These guys have to pass a test.
Yeah.
They have to pass a test.
And there's a reason not anybody can get on the field and do that.
There's a really good reason.
And it's because they determined through testing and all of this that this guy is capable of doing it.
So don't give me that bullshit.
You and I would never be able to hit a pitch by a major league pitcher.
No.
But there are people who can do it.
Yes.
So just like that and the fellow officiating, there are people who can see it that fast and make that decision.
And that's the ones they need to have in those positions.
It's the exact same thing.
Yeah.
So people saying that because I've seen a lot of pushback people going, well, that happened in a split second.
How can you read that?
Because that's his job.
That's his job.
Yeah.
How about a nuclear submarine operator?
Oh, yeah.
Let's let him have a bad day.
What about the neurosurgeon who's carving up grandma's head?
He's got to make split second decisions.
Oh, well, he'll be getting in the...
Yeah, everyone could blame him if he didn't do it.
Oh, shit.
I've got to get this pleading under...
Oh, well, I'm just going to keep going.
Yeah.
It's an excuse and it's a distraction.
It's like, look over here.
Don't pay attention to the officials doing exactly what they were told to do.
It would be a big deal if the NFL did that themselves, allegedly.
Yeah.
When these people get on the internets there and starts...
Yeah.
Well, I'm long past the point of believing anything I see on TV.
Oh, God.
I mean, if I see it on video, it could have been manipulated.
Unless I'm seeing it directly with my own eyeballs, then I don't believe it.
Like what I've been saying for a long time now, since this whole AI thing has become so large,
it's going to get to the point where anybody could do anything and there's going to be
a question.
Yep.
All they have to do is go, I did not do that.
That was AI generated.
Someone hates me.
And then you would have to have eyewitnesses, believable eyewitnesses to everything.
Bingo.
And eyewitnesses are a weird breed because everybody saw something different.
You can forget.
I've seen this happen.
Yeah.
A lot of it is your perspective on life.
Yeah.
Your mind adds the rest.
Yeah.
There are things that a family member and I have both experienced and we have different
memories of it.
And both are true because that was the memory I made.
And his was the memory he made.
So both are true.
Well, it always says there's always three stories.
Three.
Yours, mine, and the truth.
And the truth.
Yeah.
That was an excellent album.
Yeah.
Like Extreme.
It was.
That was an excellent album.
Three sides to every story.
Yeah.
Three sides to every story.
And then what was the one, the follow-up one where they had Rest In Peace and...
That was Three Sides.
Yeah.
The one before that was Pornograffiti.
Pornograffiti.
Yeah.
Both of them great albums.
You know Betcourt does not get enough hub over...
He's got this funk and of course when there're big hits was getting the funk out.
Yeah.
Just because it sounded cute or whatever.
You know Betcourt does his amazing guitar with funk.
He does.
It's incredible.
Yeah.
I think he's ethnically Venezuelan.
I believe so.
Because Betcourt sounds like a German name.
Yeah, it does.
But South America was invaded by Germany right after World War II.
Yeah.
I heard that.
Unofficially invaded by fleeing Nazis.
I read that Udo Dirkschneider is Venezuelan.
That's like...
That little pint-sized belter duet.
There are a lot of Cuban guys named Vladimir.
Yeah.
Yep, that's right.
And you can guess why.
Yeah.
Yep.
That is funny though.
You see a Cuban guy named Vlad Vladimir.
Yep.
Well, coincidentally Cubans are extremely conservative, Republican leaning.
I don't think a lot of people know that.
They tend to be, yeah.
And that's because they came from an oppressive regime and they think that military is essential
and they're right.
Plus, if you're really strong in your Catholic faith and your pro-life, the Republicans are
pro-life with you.
That's the other side of it too.
I work with a gentleman, love the guy, still keep in touch with him when I can.
He lives in Florida now.
He named his sons Ronald and Richard.
And I think you can probably figure out why.
Richard, Millhouse Nixon, and Ronald Rock and Roll Reagan or whatever.
I forgot what they called him, Ronald Reagan or something like that.
Maybe it was Bonzo.
Bonzo, yeah.
Ronald Bonzo Reagan.
Remember that movie Bedtime for Bonzo that he was in?
He was in, yeah.
It was a chimpanzee, it was Bonzo.
Yeah, when they called him a movie star, I'm like, what?
No, he was an actor.
Schwarzenegger was.
There's definitely an actor and a movie star.
Schwarzenegger was a movie star.
Yeah.
It's like not every musician is a rock star.
No.
Clearly proven by a lot of bands out there.
Yes, anyhow.
Oh, this is a sports broadcast.
Hang on.
Oh yeah, okay.
That's right.
Yeah, well the music creeps kind of crept in there a little bit.
Yeah, and I'm excited for that.
I gave you a little bit of it last week.
I got some other ideas too.
Yeah.
A lot of, you know, we'll worry about that later.
Yep.
I've got some interesting stories about fake YouTube performance videos and people that
you wouldn't believe using autotune and backing tracks.
Uh huh.
That are out, that are doing it.
Oh well right now the big hubbub is, you know, I'm going to go see Wasp.
This is probably going to be their last 10 in America, probably.
So you'll see them in Wichita coming up in December.
And one of the big hubbubs is people are pissed off because they use backing tracks.
Blacky admitted it.
He said yeah.
Yeah.
And he said simply he does not have the personnel to do it live.
Yeah.
And.
But you know, do it like him.
Be upfront about it.
Yeah.
And then you say this is what you're getting so if you don't agree with it you don't have
to buy it.
But all these people are going to these shows, are bitching about it.
It's like well, show them with your wallet.
Isn't it weird when Taylor Swift does a concert, she used tons of pre-recorded stuff.
Nobody gives a shit.
Nobody cares because they just know it.
There's nobody on stage with a musical instrument, is there?
No.
Or if there is it's just for show.
Yeah.
But when you see a band like Wasp where everybody's got an instrument in their hands, we just
kind of presume everything we hear is being made by them.
But yeah, just go ahead and tell us.
Yeah.
And also the raw edge that they've always had, people have this envisionment of oh, we
don't care if they suck a little bit because the show's going to make up for it.
Bohemian Rhapsody is a good example.
That came out in what, 78?
And there's that big section in the middle that's all kind of operatic vocals, et cetera.
Galileo.
Yeah.
When Queen did that live, as soon as that part started, the stage lights went dark and
it was a pre-recorded bit, right from the studio recording.
And the band didn't play a note until the big rock come back in at the end with you,
the head banging.
What did they used to call that?
There's an intro and then?
Intermission.
Intermission, yeah.
Yeah, it's kind of a little intermission.
But in 78, the fans didn't really care all that much.
The rock critics were like, oh, this is a sense of bad example, bad precedent.
That was like almost 50 years ago.
The thing I've got to go to is listen to Freddie live.
You won't give a shit.
Because he could do it, but it was easier not to do it.
John Deacon, great falsetto.
He could have done it.
But they're like, you know what?
This is easier for us not to do it and we're going to give you a better show because of
this.
I'll go ahead and tell you one of the ones I was thinking of is Michael Buble.
Sometimes uses auto-tune and sometimes doesn't.
Really?
Yeah.
This must be a different auto-tune than I'm used to on, I guess, urban.
They're very sophisticated now.
They're the kind you can turn on and off mid-performance, etc.
Anyway, so he said, here's a performance of Michael Buble singing this song in this venue.
There's software now that can pick out just his vocal performance from the audio and analyze
the frequencies and show exactly what notes he's hitting.
He said, okay, here's another live performance.
He overlaid them.
They're slightly different.
The timing is just slightly different by a millisecond.
You can see they're different performances.
He said, okay, here's a performance on a morning show in New York where the auto-tune was on,
but it was malfunctioning.
He played it and you could hear.
He'd hit a note and it'd go, eee.
Oh, wow.
It would warble like that before every third or fourth note.
It was a lot quicker than that, but it was very obvious.
Then halfway through the performance, you could hear it.
Suddenly it was off and it was just his voice.
Wow.
He went through and looked at some other performances and said, yeah, this is one where auto-tune
is on because you can see he's hitting those notes exactly dead on frequency, which human
beings can't do that consistently.
I think Michael Buble is being required to use auto-tune in certain situations because
they want it to be a flawless performance.
Then when it's up to him, he doesn't use it.
To do the morning shows or the big televised performances, I think he's required to use
auto-tune.
Yeah.
You know what?
Like Ozzy has to have help.
There's no doubt.
Whenever he records an album, they read an article about how he overdubs his voice to
make it more powerful.
You can hear it if you listen to it.
You hear the guy talk and then you see this and you're like, well, what happened?
They have to somehow come up with a product similar to what they have on that record.
That's what it all reminds there where rock fans are punk fans.
I'm talking about, yeah.
We're like, oh no, no, no.
We want a real and natural.
Yeah.
We want the bad stuff too.
I got one answer to that, to a first and last name, Vince Neil.
He needs to just move his mouth and have a better recording somewhere else.
I'm really okay with that.
If they want backing tracks, if they want pre-recorded everything, if they want to lip
sync everything, do it.
Just tell everyone in advance.
He needs a lip sync.
Just tell everyone it's Vince Neil.
That's his real recorded voice and he's really here acting along with it.
Then play him singing live after that.
Which one do you want?
Yeah.
The same fans who say, I don't care if he's fat, I love him, he's Vince Neil, then don't
care if he can't sing anymore.
Just play the recording.
Yeah.
Axl Rose is another one.
One time his voice will be great, another time he can't sing anything.
Part of it's his vocal style.
It's really, really rough.
Really take his toll.
Also, he's not in as good a shape as he used to be either.
The same with Vince Neil.
If Vince Neil lost 50 pounds, he would sound much better.
Yeah, he really would.
He's singing with a 50 pound bowling ball on him.
It compresses your lungs and compresses your voice.
Yeah.
Anyhow, we've got to get back to the...
We only talked about one game so far and we're 20 minutes in.
Okay, but the LASIK eye surgery thing, I love that.
That was pretty good.
That's how come the second one, our predictions one, was only an hour and 15 minutes.
We spent two hours on the first show.
We decided to have mercy.
Yeah.
By this time I'm getting texts from the front office.
Yes.
Hey, you guys out yet?
Anyhow.
All right, next game we have Green Bay at Jacksonville.
Green Bay won 30 to 27.
We both had it correct.
I was 21, 10 and you were 24, 10.
So Jacksonville did better than we thought they would.
They were actually playing like a halfway decent team.
Yeah, they're still missing something.
They're the Jacksonville of old though now, which necessarily wasn't anything to brag
about either.
The Jacksonville of old would look really good, go to the playoffs and just get the
shit kicked out of them.
There's still no doubt Peterson's on his way out.
I would think so.
No matter how well they played, they still lost.
Even if they win, they're still playing like shit.
So either way you look at it.
The whole thing is, is they gave him everything that he said he needed for the promise land.
It has not happened.
This is why we need to, in addition to a head coach watch, we need a GM watch.
We do.
You know what?
Let's start doing that.
How about next broadcast?
We'll have a list of GMs that should be on the hot seat.
I'll throw on now the, what's his name?
I don't remember his name from the Jets, the Jets general manager.
Williams something?
Yeah.
Shit.
Anyway, I think he's going to be the first GM to call.
They're actually owned by a few people, but the main owner is the Williams guy.
Yeah.
You get rid of the Salah and you got, you went out on a limb and got Aaron Rodgers and
it's, it's just, it's a horrible environment.
Obviously they can't win.
Yeah.
You get Devontae, Devontae Adams.
Jets GM.
Yeah.
You get Devontae Adams and you still keep losing.
Yeah.
He's looking pretty depressed now, isn't he?
Well, you know what?
I can't say I really feel that sorry for him.
He's been jumping around looking for the promised land and it's really not anywhere.
In my opinion, he, he bullied green Bay into letting him go.
They were not talking about letting him go.
They're talking about him mentoring this young guy.
Joe Douglas is the Jets GM.
Joe Douglas.
Okay.
And he's, I think he's in the final year of his contract.
I'm sorry.
I was thinking owner when I said Williams, I think is the owner.
Bill Williams or something like it, just a generic name, I believe, but they're also
have like three other people that are involved in it, but he's the main one.
Sorry.
I got distracted there.
Sorry.
Anyhow.
So yeah, I know we're going to start the GM watch.
That's going to be good.
Yeah.
I would say that Douglas is right on there.
It really, really seems like Jacksonville's, I mean, not Jacksonville, green Bay is coming
on which thing?
Their defense is looking great and love is looking better.
Yeah.
He got hurt again.
Yeah.
He got hurt again.
Yeah.
But his backup looked fine.
Yeah.
And the backup, his backup looked fine earlier in the season too.
Yeah.
Now this could, this could go into something.
If love continues to be missing these receivers like he has been and staying out on, staying
out of the pocket too long and getting injured, we'll see what happens because the backup actually
looks better than him right now.
Yeah.
That's kind of like Cleveland.
You know, the backup comes in, comes in, you're like, Ooh.
Yeah.
All of a sudden she's Phoebe Gates coming out of the water.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Only a certain amount of people will get that.
Moving in stereo in the background.
Yeah.
Don't.
Who's that much older actor that married her?
Kevin somebody?
Yeah.
I can't remember his name.
Yeah.
Not Kevin Spacey.
No, it's, it's like, what?
Yeah.
So another old dude under, almost underage Hollywood starlet kind of marriage.
We're kind of, we're kind of learning what those were all about.
Aren't we?
Yeah, we are.
How about Belichick?
He's got a 26 year old girlfriend.
He's 73 and she is smoking, smoking hot.
Yeah.
Well, obviously wants a personality.
She likes his personality.
Yes.
He's got a great personality.
Listen to his press conferences.
No, actually that's wrong.
He does have a great personality.
He just doesn't want to show it.
He doesn't give him anything.
And I agree with him.
He's like, Oh, you guys do it.
Going to do is twist it and mess with it and make it what you want me to say.
So they just don't say anything.
Yeah.
And I like his genericness.
Oh yeah.
We're going to have to work on that.
I didn't like it when Todd Haley did it.
Todd Haley was an asshole.
He did it in my opinion.
I mean, he was, he was kind of snotty and kind of belligerent and he proved that later
on with his actions.
I mean, one of the big reasons I've heard allegedly he was axed out of Pittsburgh was
because he was getting in bar fights all the time.
Oh, I could see that.
Which I don't necessarily have a problem with, but I actually like that.
I want my coach to go into, I want my coach to go to a roadhouse bar, spit in a biker's
eye and beat the shit out of his friends.
Yeah.
That's what I want.
I want Andy Reid to go in there and say, every one of you big motherfuckers over there are
going to kiss my toe right now.
They're going to jump up and he's going to knock the shit out of the first one and then
the rest of them will kiss his toe.
That's Mark's world.
Hey, this is the owner of the city market coffee and she is an excellent person and
this is the best coffee in the world.
It is.
Yeah.
Anyhow, you want to say anything?
This place is amazing because of people like you.
Well thank you.
How about your new business here that you're getting ready to open up?
Oh, it's just we're finally going to have more space and more food and more drink options.
Your food isn't necessarily bad right now.
It's not bad, no, but there's no place in this neighborhood where you can get a real
breakfast.
You go to the diner and your stomach can hurt, but some people's stomachs are used to that.
I did that one time, never again.
Same.
Excellent, Amanda, when we start coming down here, we could just plan on having a breakfast
too.
Yeah, I like that idea.
For lunch we're going to have French dips, sliders, and rubens, and chicken sandwiches,
and salads.
Oh my god, that sounds great.
Excellent.
When do you have a?
The beginning of January.
I'm hoping the 6th, it just depends on the last people in the health department.
Oh yeah.
Oh those guys.
That's true, there's a lot of those boxes to check.
I've extra done my job on that.
Hopefully they come in and say, why isn't everybody like this?
Really?
You know what, you do everything so well I have no doubt that that will happen.
All right, let's see.
Okay, we're head coaches.
Let's see here.
We're talking about Todd Haley.
Todd Haley and backup quarterbacks and bar fighters.
Yeah, we're talking about the Jets.
Yes, yeah, and making people kiss his toe.
Maybe even his hind toe.
His hind toe, yeah.
All right, next up on our list, Arizona at Miami.
Okay.
Everything we talked about with Miami last week was thrown out the window because 2 is
back.
Yeah, 2 is back.
And the thing is, they didn't even announce it.
No.
I looked all over the wire.
It was like the day before I saw that he'd been in practice and the full participants.
It's like, I guess he's playing.
Did they do that on the betting?
There's reasons for everything.
I'd like to see the line of before and after.
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
They like the line to move.
That's where they make their money.
They like that, being like that, and then the last second surge.
Oh, he's back in.
And then the other people like us are like, well, is he going to be the same person?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, I mean, he did okay, but he didn't do brilliant.
Still not enough to win.
It was Arizona 30 to 27.
We both picked Arizona.
You were 24-10.
I was 21-10.
Yeah.
Kyler Murray's still looking better than he's been.
He's not exactly doing it all with his throwing.
Uh-huh.
He's running a lot.
He's making decisions.
I think he's becoming a little bit like Lamar Jackson, where he's a running threat, he's
a scrambling threat.
This can only work out well for him to give him that kind of facet that people respect.
I agree.
I mean, he's always been able to do that, but it's being a lot more effective now.
Yeah.
Kyler Murray looks completely different this year, and it could be because Kingsbury maybe
was not that good of a coach or didn't know how to handle him.
If I remember correctly, Kingsbury's the guy that Mahomes was under over there in Texas
Tech, wasn't that him?
Yeah.
Kingsbury was a quarterback that came out of college at a time into the NFL when the
run and shoot was real popular.
Yeah.
It was the type of offense where the running game was an afterthought.
Yeah.
Everything was a quick pass.
You always had five receivers out there.
Am I correct on that?
Was he the one over there in Texas Tech?
Yeah.
I think the thought was that he could nurture this guy like a Mahomes.
Uh-huh.
But I don't think Mahomes has nurtured.
I think that he went out there and he just could do what he could do.
Yeah.
That's just he has that type of a... What do you want to call it?
I mean, skill, thought, intelligence, all this stuff.
Yeah.
But it looks to me like the... I forgot the guy... We're so unprepared.
Their coach now is doing differently with their offensive coordinator and doing it much
better in my opinion.
Yeah.
Anyhow.
I don't think there's anything in the run and shoot that's really going to work in the
NFL that isn't already being used.
No.
No, no, no.
I mean, the run and shoot pretty much evolved anyhow.
Yeah.
It was popular for a year, two, three, and then every team that was using it just failed.
Wasn't that like a Warren Moon?
Yeah.
He had that quick delivery.
Uh-huh.
You have the guy in the middle.
He goes inside, comes in the middle, boom, bam.
And before you bat it in your eye, there was another eight yards.
It was death by paper cup, pretty much.
Yeah, it really was.
It was so funny.
That was the Houston Oilers team.
Yes, it was.
And they're...
No, the Titans.
No, no, go ahead.
I don't know who their offensive coordinator was, but their defensive guy was Buddy Ryan.
Buddy Ryan, yeah.
I remember him.
Yes, I do.
He came from the 85 Bears.
Yeah.
Now, Rex Ryan is on ESPN.
But Buddy Ryan hated the run and shoot.
Yes, he did.
But that's what Houston ran.
And it wasn't his business.
He was the defensive guy.
No.
But he never missed an opportunity to get on air criticizing the run and shoot.
And there was a point on the sideline where the offensive and defensive coordinator started
punching each other.
Yeah, I remember that.
Because they were fighting on the sideline and throwing punches.
Yeah, because Buddy Ryan never did let up on that.
I mean, even though it was working...
He's like that loudmouth asshole that never shuts up.
Yeah, yeah.
That was his personality.
Yeah, whatever he had to crawl on his ass about, you would hear about it constantly.
Yeah.
He's the type of guy that if you want to have a good party, you don't invite.
If Buddy Ryan hadn't been born big and strong, he would have been crushed to death at age
seven with that mouth.
Yes.
The only thing that kept him alive was the fact that he was big and strong.
Yeah, and even then...
And that backed up his stupid mental.
Was it the offensive coordinator that went after him?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Even then, a lesser, bulky offensive coordinator still did pretty good against him.
He did, yeah.
I think Buddy Ryan to me seemed like the kind of guy that got by with his brawn because
no one ever challenged him.
Yeah.
Then when someone did, it's kind of like, oh shit.
This guy's a bag of marshmallows.
Yeah.
I see it.
I said, well, actually I did that growing up.
I went after a big guy and everyone couldn't believe it, but you know what?
He never had anyone go after him before, so it works.
He does.
Yeah.
Anyhow, go ahead.
On to the next.
I hope they're listening.
I don't know who I'm talking about if they're listening.
I'm laughing at this game.
New York Jets at the New England Patriots.
It's both really sad and really funny what's happening with the Jets.
You picked the Patriots, didn't you?
I did.
I did not, did I?
No.
The Patriots won 25-23.
I picked 23-20.
You picked 21-7.
You were remarkably close.
I was remarkably close.
Good job.
I mean, you know, the Jets are just... They're deteriorating so bad now.
There's obviously dissension in the ranks.
I mean, there is more to that going on, and I think what you have is you have Aaron Rodgers,
Devontae Adams against everybody else.
Yeah, I think it's really becoming a divisive locker room.
The defense isn't doing too bad.
They really aren't, but the offense is letting them down.
Their big, overpriced, attention-grabbing quarterback has been with the Jets for one
and a half seasons and has two wins.
That's a good point.
Sure, he was injured all last season, but still, he's been there a year and a half,
two wins.
Two wins.
If I was the interim coach, I would pull a... Oh, what do you call it?
A move, a power move, and I would bench Aaron Rodgers.
You know, I've been thinking about that just to play devil's advocate.
That takes balls.
Well, yeah.
I mean, he's the guy you brought in to be the franchise, and if you're going to bench
him, you might as well cut him.
I think some people are going to say that.
I'm not myself.
He's not going to cut him because their competition will pick him up, but you bench him.
I think that's the idea.
Some people will say, you can't bench him because he's the big thing you told us you're
pinning all your hopes on.
See, I think if this guy, if the coordinator is now the interim head coach, I think if
he really wants a head coaching job, you have to go that route.
You have to go in there and do a power move like that.
This is true.
Either that or every chance you get whenever Rodgers messes up, you go over there and you
stick your finger in his face and you tell him, you go, you don't do that anymore.
I'm the coach.
You don't do that anymore.
You don't like it, get out of here.
There's a locker.
There's your car out there.
Yeah.
And if he runs to the owner again and gets the guy fired, then-
I would go in the owner's suite and say, fire me.
I don't give a shit, but I'm not putting up with this guy's bullshit.
Yep.
Yeah.
At least that way, everyone else is looking at you going, that guy has balls.
Let's keep tabs on him.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Just force the issues and make Aaron Rodgers the coach if you're going to give him the
power to make these decisions.
Give him the job instead of me.
I say punches him right in the face, midfield.
He pulls off his helmet, smacks him right in the eye, and then leaves.
We talked last week-
I'm awful violent today, ain't I?
What the hell?
No, no, no.
Let's get it out real quick.
Yeah, okay.
We talked last week about Brady owning part of the Raiders and maybe the idea of players
owning the team that they're on.
And now we're talking about a player possibly being a coach of the team he's on.
There is actually precedent for both of those.
George Hallis owned the Chicago Bears and he was his own head coach for-
It was in the 50s, wasn't it?
Oh, it was over multiple decades.
He was his own head coach for four different 10-year stints.
Wow.
He kept firing himself.
Boy, that's truth in lending, isn't it?
And then he'd rehire himself for another 10 years and then he'd fire himself again.
And Paul-
Was there a tax dodge in that?
I don't know.
Paul Brown, who started the Cleveland Browns and then got hooted out and started the Cincinnati
Bengals, he was coach and player simultaneously.
So there's precedent for both, owner and player, coach and player.
It's happened before.
Well, then they're going to have to, I don't know if they change rules or not, but they're
going to have to stay on this because I really do think that the new thing is I'm going to
this team because they're offering me part ownership.
What are you going to do?
Do you think baseball's doing, is baseball doing that at all?
You know what?
I don't know.
I can't think of anybody who's getting part ownership.
I kept track of baseball this year just because the Royals were doing good.
But you know, every 10 years doesn't do me anything.
You know, those nine years in between?
I don't know.
I remember about 10, maybe 15 years ago, there was a player who signed a contract for $250
million over 10 years.
Yeah.
I think there was ownership involved in one of those.
Yeah.
But at the time, the franchise he was on was worth $225 million.
I want to say Roger Clemens.
It might have been.
To stay with Boston might have done that.
Or a Texas, it might have been a Texas Ranger.
It could have been a Texas Ranger.
Okay.
Nolan Ryan, maybe?
No, not Nolan.
Nolan Ryan could have.
But that was a long time ago.
No, he's too old.
It's over.
Anyway, so the 10-year contract was for more than the team was worth.
And I thought, why not just say, play for us for the next 10 years and you own the team?
Yeah.
But then, you know, that implies that the team is only going to be worth $225 million.
No.
And that they're not going to make any other money.
It's never going to happen, but I think what it's going to do is boil down to percent.
Yeah.
You own 1%.
Well, some of those are.
And then the Federal Trade Commission gets involved about how much of a small percentage
you can own.
This is something that the NFL is going to watch.
They probably already are.
And they're going to have to put, if they have it, they're going to have limits on it.
And the reason is, is because this would definitely affect everything.
Definitely.
Influence-wise, betting-wise, everything.
And this is something they've had a very tight rein on forever.
So I look for that to be looked into.
And that's it.
I can see the NFL adding little bureaucracies here and there.
Like this guy is in charge of overseeing the gambling partnership.
This guy is in charge of overseeing player ownership of teams.
And you know, this department's, there's going to be like a million different little departments
and the money skimming is going to happen everywhere.
Oh, yeah.
You know, the kind of people the NFL attracts to go work there are people who want tons
of money.
Exactly.
And they want to manipulate and get more money.
That's who the NFL wants working for.
So you know they're all going to skim.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
You talk about death by a thousand paper cuts.
The NFL is looking at that.
Oh, that's it right there.
Yes.
The bigger they get, the more places they have to bleed from.
The NFL's eyebrow is raised.
All right.
We are getting dark today.
Let's move on.
We are.
What the hell?
All righty.
Next game.
It's the wind.
It is the wind.
Yeah.
Pisses us off.
All right.
We both missed this one.
Baltimore at Cleveland.
Oh, who saw that one coming?
Well, we didn't know that Deshaun Watson was.
Well, no, we did know Deshaun Watson was out.
Yeah.
We didn't know James Winston was going to play so well.
No, he did have Lasik surgery, by the way.
He must have.
Yeah, he did.
For real.
He said that he could see everything better and he was a better quarterback.
Maybe he's right.
There are some Chiefs players that my wife has seen at her place of business.
Uh-huh.
So, it's a thing.
Why wouldn't you want to see better play in a sport that fast and quick?
Okay.
The Ravens have something going on there with their game plan.
It could be beat.
They have this uncanny ability to look like the best team in the league and an average
team in the league in a matter of a week.
There's some of the game plan, I'm sure.
But to beat a James Winston, not being able to, a James Winston being able to beat you,
and I mean solidly, it wasn't a fluke.
Yeah, I think it showed something that we hadn't seen about the Baltimore defense.
Yeah.
They can be handled, but they can be exploited.
I think the Chiefs showed some of that.
Yeah.
They were so organized in what they were doing.
They lost LG, they lost need in the off season, and we had a couple of injuries and they were
still trying to figure everything out.
So if that had been this point in the season right now, I think you would have saw the
Chiefs doing the same things times five.
Yeah.
And someone made the point, James Winston is a backup quarterback starting his first
game and he carved up Baltimore for 29 points.
Well if you look at it, traditionally people have been carving up Baltimore.
Baltimore has been carving them a little deeper.
Yeah.
So.
I mean I'd like to know how many 32 to 31 games they've done this year.
And that was the knock on run and shoot teams, ironically, was that you'd score 40, 50 points
a game, but you'd take virtually no time off the clock and the other team would score just
as many.
Yeah.
They had the ball longer.
So it worked out okay for college.
Run and shoot worked out okay in college.
There's too much ball control and there's too much game planning to do that in that
as well, as it's been proven.
Man, we both think Baltimore big.
Oh well.
I still think Baltimore is a good team.
There's somebody who's going to be a big obstacle for somebody's playoff hopes.
Yeah, I agree.
And also, I'll go a step further.
This team played five times, Baltimore will win three of them, if not four.
Yeah.
So I mean we were wrong on the pick, but overall we're probably more correct.
Look, Cleveland might have a good season and all, but they're not the caliber of Baltimore.
No.
But Baltimore obviously has some issues that they're going to have to address if they want
to make it into playoffs further.
I like the rivalry there because Baltimore used to be Cleveland.
Yes.
And maybe that's part of the ass whipping.
Yeah.
And before the Cleveland Browns play them, I hope somebody reminds them that this town
went without football for a few years.
I'm sure they did.
Because of them.
Why wouldn't you include that in your speech?
I would think so.
Remember Art Modell taking them in the middle of the night in Baltimore going hee hee hee?
Now it's your turn.
Gloating from a distance that they've got their new plays and their new stadium and
their meenie meenie meenie.
Your croissanting them, you know what I mean?
Yeah, they were croissanting them.
Anyhow, you know what?
I don't even know if I can Google that.
That was a visual aid.
Sorry.
Now we're getting really wry.
Anyhow, go ahead.
Alright, so.
I meant croissanting.
So moving on.
Philly at Cincinnati.
Final score was 37-17.
I picked Cincinnati 19-17.
You picked Philly 32-28.
I saw this one on the wall.
And the reason is because I don't think Cincinnati, their defense, is very well equipped to stop
the runner.
It doesn't look like it, no.
And those awful, awful white uniforms with white helmets.
And you see they bleached out their center logo and the end zone logos also for a home
game.
They deserve to lose just for that.
Yeah they do.
I still go to their schedule.
Look, what are they?
They're three and five now.
Three and five, okay.
Hang on.
Their schedule is really, really easy.
But they are losing to lesser teams in my opinion.
Yeah.
While you're looking that up.
Philly, even though they put up 37 points, didn't look like a dominant team.
It looked like the better team over Cincinnati definitely.
But they didn't look like a world beater necessarily.
They did the, whatever that play is called, the ass blast or the butt lunge or whatever
that is.
Yeah, where they push.
Yeah, where they grab each other's butt holes and then start pumping, I mean pushing.
Hey, it makes them close.
I'm only doing that because of the stupid nickname they gave it.
Yeah, the butt push or something.
The tush push.
The tush push, that was it.
Yeah.
Stupid fucking nickname, I'm going to make fun of it every chance I get.
I don't blame you either.
Jason Kelsey missing does not help their cause on that.
No.
But they still have a very powerful offensive line.
And Jalen Hurts to me still is a walking broken leg.
Yeah.
Some of the stuff that he subjects himself to is not long term.
I still go with the principle, the flaws, starting from Nick Sirianni and his way of
running things.
Yeah.
I don't think is conducive for a winning environment.
Yeah.
He needs to put his little boy on his lap for a few more press conferences because that
makes all the difference, doesn't it?
Yes.
Oh my God.
What a completely transparent display.
Oh, I know.
Here, I'm going to use my kid so you don't say mean things about me.
Yeah, because he got this thug-ish type of an ant.
What I mean by that is people kind of, you know, Nick Sirianni, okay, so Italian, right?
Yeah.
He looks very Italian.
And the obvious thug thing would be coming from organized crime way of doing things.
Yeah.
And they said that he had his henchmen there.
This is reports of him having people do things to influence other people, allegedly.
Yeah.
So I think he has that kid on his lap like Tony Soprano would have.
He's a human shield.
Yes.
In a lesser sense, he's a human shield.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, we got to solve it my image.
What's your kid's name?
Oh, oh, Jimmy.
Come here a little, Jimmy.
Sit on my lap while I do this press conference.
Yep.
And then every now and then you look at him glowingly and endearingly and automatically
they're disarmed.
It's manipulation.
Yeah.
You can't really say that much about someone holding their kid on their lap and interacting
with them.
Yeah.
A courageous reporter would have said, you know, you're the one who brought your kid.
You knew what was coming.
So I'm going to let you have it anyway.
No, I agree with that.
It's like, actually, I'm going to do a little bit quicker because you did this.
So, yeah.
Hey, here's a great idea.
Bank robbers, when you run out of the bank, carry your child with you and say, oh, look,
I love my child.
You can't shoot and arrest me because I'm a good dad.
And it'll work because it worked for Nick's area.
Yeah, yeah.
It sure did.
Yep.
Because we're also that we're all that stupid, aren't we?
No, we're not.
We're not that stupid, Nick.
And also, if you want to look up some of the allegations and everything going on, just
look them up.
And that's why I said that I don't even know if thug was the right word.
I don't mean it like a lot of people mean it at all.
What I mean is he's been throwing his influence around other people.
It's a type of bully.
It's a type of bullying.
Yes.
Yeah.
So if you think it means anything else, no, it's not.
It doesn't mean anything else.
It just means that there's some questionable things going on.
Yeah.
And even bullies can be decent dads once in a while.
So don't let that fool you.
Well, that's where I went back to like the Tony soprano thing.
You go home every night.
Well, sometimes you go home at night and you mess with your kid a little bit, give him
some shit, give him a little drink at your bot.
And then you go upstairs and you talk to someone about fucking killing somebody.
Yeah, I watched a show about a contract killer for one of the crime families and they interviewed
his daughter a lot.
And she was like, I had no idea what my dad did.
He was a nice guy.
He loved me.
He gave me birthday parties.
He bought me presents.
He was just a wonderful dad.
And then she finds out later that if you paid him some money, he would go kill whoever you
wanted him to kill.
And then she had to reconcile that with this loving dad that she grew up with.
I cannot say the guy's name even though he's passed, but I used to work for this guy and
he owned a business.
And his son just came in there and he's teasing with him and pinching his cheeks and stuff.
Then he left.
And I'm in there doing some of the work I'm supposed to do.
And I can't even say what business it is because some people would get it if I did.
So okay.
Then this guy walked in that was screwing him.
And I didn't notice.
And all of a sudden I hear a click.
And he had the barrel of his pistol in the guy's mouth.
And he said, are you going to give me the fucking money right now?
And if you say I don't got it, you're not going to get another chance.
So he said something like, if you don't say I don't got it, you better shit it.
The guy came up with the money that he owed him.
And the guy left.
And he's like, hey Mark, man, why don't you go in there and here's a couple bucks too.
Yeah.
I see nothing.
Yeah.
He didn't actually say you saw nothing.
Yeah.
But by rewarding you, you saw nothing.
Yeah.
He knew you were smart enough to figure it out.
Yeah.
And smart enough to figure out that it was in your best interest to pretend none of this
ever happened and to be very cautious like right now.
If nothing else, I like my job at the time too.
Yeah.
I know I keep shut there, but no, that was when I realized, wow.
Yeah.
That was a guy who's just messing with his kid.
And you know, we think all this stuff happens in back alleys and dark secluded areas.
No.
No, a lot of this happens right out in the public and people just don't want to know.
They don't want to see.
They don't want to think about it.
This guy's thing was like a little magic trick with kids.
He'd go over there and pull like a little thing out of his ear.
Hey, where'd this come from?
And they'd go in tricking stuff.
So it made him look like a great guy.
And maybe he was.
Maybe this guy was a real asshole.
I don't know.
So yeah.
Basically, that's who Nick Sirianni thinks he is.
Yes.
Bingo.
So yeah, I don't see that going very far.
He's just kind of a dumbass football coach that is going to have a brief career.
He's going to have a brief career and then he's going to be gone and he'll just be, you
know, some lines of print in an article.
Yeah.
Yep.
I agree.
All right.
We can go on.
All right.
Next up, we have Indianapolis at Houston.
Final score, Houston 23-20.
I picked Houston 27-13.
You picked Houston 37-17.
So much closer game than we thought.
Yeah.
Indianacropolis really fought them hard.
They did.
They got a lot of fighting.
Richardson's back, isn't he?
Their quarterback.
Yep.
He looked about fair.
He looked fair.
He looked reasonable, I guess.
For his first game back, I thought they did it right.
Yeah, he did okay.
So we'll see the verdicts out on him.
He could become a pretty good quarterback or he could be flushed down the stool.
Yeah.
It's like a team is fighting for him.
Which is always a good sign.
Yeah.
So they seemed to rally around him pretty good.
They almost beat Texans.
Yeah.
So I think good things of Indianacropolis, even though I call them Indianacropolis.
And the Texans are for real too, but not just because of CJ Stroud who had a big game.
He had a good game, not a big game, a really good game, a solid game.
And Mixon had a solid game too.
But their defense.
Oh, and Stefan Diggs, probably out for the year.
Not good.
Oh gosh.
No.
Anyhow.
I'm looking down at my nose to see, make sure I've been.
When we talked about Cincinnati, I forgot to ask, do you think Cincy's done for the
year?
Yes.
I do too.
Yeah.
And the reason is because I went before and I said, oh man, look at their schedule.
Well, this game you just saw was their schedule I was talking about.
Yeah.
And.
Lessor teams.
Cincy is now three and five.
Uh-huh.
And they're playing, isn't playing well.
No, and they have Joe Burrow in there.
Yeah.
That's the biggest problem.
Uh-huh.
This is, it's not like, yeah.
So I don't think, I don't see them doing much more than what they're doing right now, which
would mean they'd end up like nine and eight.
Look, Joe Burrow tries.
Seven and ten.
Joe Burrow tries like hell to become them at home.
He tries to do these special things.
He tries to rally them.
At the end of the day, he's not.
I wonder if it's a locker room thing where they just really don't quite believe him.
Well, you come in with a different haircut and different style every day, maybe.
Yeah.
I mean.
First you're this cigar smoking Joe Cool.
Yeah.
And then you're like beach dude with frosted tips coming in.
Yeah.
Then he's boy butt man.
Yeah.
I mean, what are you?
Yeah.
Why don't you just be a leader?
Go in there with a backwards Troy-built cap on.
Yeah.
Have a little grease in your fingernails.
Quit trying to come up with an image to be and just be yourself.
Just be yourself.
I think some of that reflects on the team.
Yeah.
So yeah, I agree with you.
I think Cleveland is actually going to do a decent job from here on out because they
cut the cancer out and they seem to have survived.
Yeah.
But the only thing was it wasn't well, I think it was coming anyhow.
Let's let's hope Stefanski doesn't say anything like stupid like, yeah, we can't wait for
Deshaun Watson to come back.
He might be able to make it back by the.
No, I would.
I think he's smarter than that.
Just quit talking about him.
And I'll go a step further.
You might make sure that he doesn't get medical clearance the rest of the year.
Yes.
Yeah.
You don't need him on your team, obviously.
They would have won this game with Deshaun Watson in it.
They would not have won this game.
They wouldn't even came close.
So there you go.
Yeah.
Oh, it was so good that that was in Cleveland so the Cleveland fans could see it.
Oh, they enjoyed that too.
It was great.
I was going nuts.
But quit Stanley a little bit later on either this broadcast or the next one.
We have the Cleveland Browns curse and there's a guy that has a graveyard and he does this
every year in Cleveland of their quarterbacks.
So he has like, I don't know, Brady Quinn, Tim Couch, Tim Couch, all these guys on there.
I got a list from the dog pound that they did interview people from the dog pound of
the top 10 bus ever.
Oh, nice.
There's like 30 of them.
So they narrowed it down.
They narrowed it down to 30.
10, yeah.
Yeah, they narrowed it down to 10.
And it's in my greedy little paws right now.
We will go into it later.
Yeah, like the quarterback graveyard is, that's good for Halloween.
Yeah, it's funny.
That's a good Halloweeny thing.
I'm like, that is it right there.
When I went to the Open Jam last Sunday down at Knuckleheads, we did Werewolves of London
for Halloween.
Oh, awesome.
Yeah, if I didn't have family coming over, I was going to join you, but I had to grill
all day and anyhow.
And still I didn't get a brisket done because I couldn't get it dethawed in time.
So anyhow.
All right, next up we have another team that I want to ask if they're done.
It was Detroit and Tennessee in Detroit.
Detroit won 52 to 14.
Well.
But that was defense and special team scoring.
It was.
It wasn't the quarter.
Wow.
Okay, I'm dead now.
Yeah, me too.
I had them 31-10.
You had them 32 to 12.
So you were really close without all those extra touchdowns by the defense.
By the defense, yeah.
Yeah, you had really got right on it.
Well the Titans are, they're selling their, they're selling anybody worth anything.
They got rid of Derek Henry.
Now they've gotten rid of Deandre Hopkins.
Yeah.
They definitely are telling their fan base, you know, we're done.
Yeah.
We're not going anywhere.
We're going to be in the draft.
Yeah.
So I'm saying Tennessee is done because they're telling us they're done.
Yeah.
I'd have to look at their schedule, but I don't see them winning a game.
Yeah.
That's pretty much.
So yeah, not much to expect from Tennessee from here on out.
They're going to be.
They threw in the towel.
They're still perfectly capable of spoiling somebody's playoff run.
And they will.
Yeah.
Because it's not like they're going to lose out.
They're one and six, which is pretty sucky.
Yeah.
But they're still going to win some games down the stretch.
I know they will.
This is weird.
The sex game is weird.
Two teams that I thought would be better, Atlanta at Tampa Bay.
Atlanta wins 31-26.
We both got that wrong.
I know.
Okay.
Here's the deal.
They play the Chiefs, Ed Arrowhead, Monday night.
I don't see their fortunes getting very much better.
No.
They're coming back to the pack as far as I can tell.
The Tampa Bay is now four and four.
So they're dead 500.
And they're going to lose next Monday night to the Chiefs.
Yeah.
It seemed like they had everything fluid running like a solid machine.
And there have been a couple of games that could have went either way and they went the
opposite way.
And now I think they're kind of like questioning themselves.
Yeah.
I mean, I think Mayfield is still doing solid, but I think even Mayfield is kind of like
a.
Traditionally, the reason he hasn't stayed anywhere, in my opinion, is because of his
fortitude when they start losing.
Yeah.
I could go to my homes because this is our hometown team.
We're from Kansas City.
And last year, after the Raiders game, we could have caved in.
Yeah.
We could have caved in, but instead, no.
It was a ugly loss.
It was.
That was a catalyst to win the rest of the year.
And they haven't lost ever since.
So does Mayfield have that in him?
I don't think so.
He's a really good quarterback to have on a solid, well-rounded team.
He's a system quarterback.
Yeah.
But if that system starts to break down, he cannot take a team, put it on his back, maybe
for one game.
Yeah, but he needs those parts around him.
Yeah, he needs those parts around him.
So I think Tampa Bay is going back to the pack.
And now I was giving them like a nine and seven or nine and eight grade or something
like that.
I'm not so sure about that now.
It might be eight, nine.
It might be eight, nine easily.
Yeah.
They really are playing like 500 ball right now.
So I could see them just win one, lose one the rest of the way out.
That's kind of the way it's looking to me.
Yeah, it's sad.
Yeah.
They got potential.
All right.
Next up, New Orleans at the Chargers.
Chargers won 26 to eight.
Well Chargers are doing the same thing, only they're better.
One game, they're still struggling to find their identity.
Jim Harbaugh is working on that.
They're missing some key components.
I'm not even sure if Harbaugh wants to get them in the playoffs this year.
Herbert had a really good game.
Yeah, that's Herbert though.
Yeah.
If you play him correctly and rush him.
Oh, go ahead.
I was going to say at one point the score was three to two Los Angeles.
I know.
A touchdown, a field goal to a safety.
I know.
I was sitting there looking at that game going, all right, I'm not touching that one.
I mean, that's how New Orleans wound up with only eight points.
They had a safety and what, two field goals?
Two field goals.
So what the hell happened in New Orleans?
Okay, well first of all, I really thought they were going to be stronger this year.
Their car went down.
Yeah.
But I go back to the defenses and like Tyron Matthew, great guy, but to me it seems like
whenever things get questionable, he's not the guy you want speaking.
Yeah.
Let's say that, you know, that it's the president, okay, of the United States and Russia just
attacked Hawaii or not Hawaii, Alaska.
Yeah.
Okay.
So there's a guy that can come out there and pull it off like a Reagan.
Yeah.
Well, we seem to have some difficulties with those guys over there.
You know, and then there's someone, I mean, like, sorry, no matter how you feel, Joe Biden.
Yeah.
I don't care what side the fence is on, Joe Biden.
But yeah, they attacked us.
We finally beat Medicare.
Yeah.
So or Obama could have smoothed that out.
Yeah.
You know, he would come out there and just kind of speak kind of, yeah, these folks decided
to come after us, didn't they?
So it would be something like that.
And, you know, whenever Matthew speaks, I'm not sure that it's received.
Yeah.
He's really not the guy you want speaking for the team or the defense.
You know, let him speak for himself.
Yeah.
I think that's why the Chiefs didn't pursue rehiring him.
Yeah.
I remember coming out of college.
The big thing about him was he got catfished.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's right.
And it really like emotionally devastated him.
And he was he was talking about I think he was talking about suicide.
Yes, I believe so.
Well, is that what happened to CHE?
He has PTSD.
Could be.
Yeah.
He woke up with a bottle of chloroform and did he zipping up his pants?
Allegedly.
Seriously, he did.
He's somebody you never want to lose consciousness around.
No, no, no.
Bill Cosby didn't.
Oh, too soon.
Too soon.
I can't even remember if Cosby's dead or alive.
And I kind of don't care.
Pardon me.
What?
Too soon?
No, it's not too soon.
Anyhow.
So I'm going to say New Orleans is done.
Yeah, I think so.
Even if their car comes back, they're done.
Put a stick in them.
Doesn't matter.
Yeah.
They're one eighty.
Isn't it one eighty considered done on the steak or no, no, no, no, no.
On pork.
Yeah.
One eighty.
He's one eighty.
His internal his little turkey timer popped up.
It popped up.
All right.
Next up, we have Buffalo at Seattle.
Buffalo won twenty one to ten.
I picked Buffalo twenty eight, twenty six.
You picked Seattle twenty nine, twenty seven.
Well, I'm not sure why.
Completely wrong.
Buffalo is still looking like Buffalo.
I think Buffalo is our main competition right now.
Their headache come playoff time.
I'm in the Texans.
But the words out on the Texas will go more.
Was it like the late December we played in?
Yeah, it's late in the year.
Yeah, we're going to have a little bit tougher schedule on that level than I ever thought
because the Steelers are suddenly looking really good, too.
They are.
Yeah.
And the only good thing is I believe it.
No, I'm not.
We may go to we may go to Pittsburgh, but I know that the Texas have to play us here.
Yeah.
So anyhow, and I believe we have the Christmas Day with the Steelers.
Oh, gosh, I'm going to look that up.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I want to see Mike Reed in the not Mike Reed, Mike Tomlin and Andy Reed.
Oh, yeah.
In their Santa hats.
Chiefs schedule.
So I'm going to make goat noises while you do that, like I do on the other podcast.
So we got the bucks bucks at Chiefs Broncos at Chiefs Chiefs at Bills Chiefs at Panthers
Raiders at Chiefs Chargers at Chiefs Chiefs at Browns Texans at Chiefs December 21st Chiefs
at Steelers Christmas Day.
OK.
Oh, that's a Thursday nighter.
Yeah.
So only four days after we host the Texans, we got to go to Pittsburgh.
Why do they do that?
That's going to be tough as hell.
Yeah, that might be one of our one of our losses.
Yeah, and then the Chiefs at Broncos on January 5th, but they haven't set the time yet.
Yeah, to be determined, the old TBD.
Yep.
Yeah.
And that depends on how well each team's doing.
Honestly.
Yeah, yeah, they'll they'll they'll put the the team with the biggest attraction.
I mean, the game with the biggest attraction in the prime time slot.
Yeah.
So if at that point, the Chiefs and the Broncos are duking it out for the AFC West home field,
that will be the playout will be the prime time.
Or if or if Denver is fighting for a playoff spot and we and we still have to gain number
one by winning, that will be it, too.
Yeah.
I could also see the Chiefs having everything sewn up at that point and starting a bunch
of backdots.
And then you've got and then they won't put that one on.
No, no, that one will not go on.
Yeah.
They learned their lesson a few years back when teams started doing that, saving players
for the playoffs.
Playoffs?
And the last game of the season would have a bunch of scrubs and backups.
And the league was like, oh, yeah, we can't do this.
No.
Prime slot.
Yeah.
Give us the ability to flex a game in that means something.
Yeah.
So that was smart on the NFL.
That flex schedule.
I'm sure the networks were the ones that pushed for that one.
Oh, I'm sure they did, too.
They said we don't want this.
Yeah.
We don't want this.
It's a shit game, but you still owe us money.
Yeah, that's right.
That's like organized crime.
All right.
So up next, Chicago at Washington, final score 18 to 15 on an amazing Hail Mary.
Gosh.
Man.
We both picked the commanders, so.
That's good.
And I mean, that game probably should have been won by Chicago.
Yeah.
If Caleb Williams had played a little better, they definitely would have won that game.
Yeah.
That's OK, but.
Yeah.
That last drive that he did should have won it is what I'm saying.
Yeah.
He didn't play particularly well, but like you said, if he would play better, it wouldn't
have been in question.
Yeah.
But the thing is, is the tall guy from the Bears that was taunting the crowd is the one
that didn't swap the ball to the ground.
He tipped it up.
Didn't swap the ball out of bounds.
He tipped it up right for the receiver.
Yeah.
Of the commanders.
Isn't it wonderful when there's instant karma?
Oh yeah.
You know, he probably had a Len Elliott on him where he walked in and all his stuff is
outside the locker.
It reminded me of Leon Lett.
Leon Lett, yeah.
Who had picked up a fumble, was running for the end zone, and then was showboating and
got it swatted out of his hand at the one yard line.
Yeah.
That was instant karma.
And the Cowboys lost the game.
Yep.
Leon Lett was such a joke for like a year.
Yeah, don't Leon Lett me.
Hey, I won't.
Amazing times.
So yeah, Washington, Jaden Daniels, love watching him play.
You see, I think the receiver that got it after the tip, the Hail Mary, I think he was
the intended receiver anyhow.
Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
Daniels ran around the back of the field there for what, maybe eight, four, five seconds
at least.
Five seconds at least.
He was all over that place looking for that one guy, which is smart.
Usually someone just throws it into the pile.
He was waiting for separation.
Yeah.
But he was throwing on the run.
It was a long throw, and I think he just missed his mark, but it worked anyhow.
He was probably waiting for the receiver to signal him.
Yeah, probably.
Because if the quarterback had pointed to the right, the whole defense would have seen
it and they would have gone right too.
So he was running around, probably waiting for the receiver to say, hey, I'm going this
way.
And that's when he threw it.
So you'll never see a play like that again in a long time, probably.
I think that outdoes the Doug Flutie Hail Mary that got him his claim to fame.
That only way a quarterback that short made it in the NFL as long as he did was that Hail
Mary in college.
He was what, 5'7", I think?
Yeah.
Something like that, yeah.
Yeah.
Did he play for Boston College?
I believe so.
That sounds about right.
That's a fairly religious school.
I don't think it's... I don't know if it's an actual religious school, but TCU is religious,
Baylor's religious.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Was he a Bill Leifer?
I don't think he went anywhere, or did he?
No, he was... Wasn't he a Patriot too?
Was he a Patriot?
Yeah, I think he was more than one team.
He was a Patriot, you're right.
He went to at least two teams, if not more.
I think he went to another one too.
Yeah, late in his career he was hopping around.
He was doing the Joe Namath thing, hopping onto any team that would have him.
Yeah.
Well, he gets drunk and hits on their sideline reporters.
Joe Namath had immense gambling debts to pay off.
That's the only reason he stayed for those last few years is he owed way too much money
to quit.
Who was it that he said he wanted to kiss on the sideline?
Suzy Colbert.
That was it, yeah.
Yeah.
I remember she was trying to ask a serious question, going, I really want to kiss you.
The look on her face was just priceless, like, if you do, I'm calling the law.
A lot of people called out ESPN because they knew he was drunk off his ass, and they called
him down to talk on air anyway.
They should have.
They should have been like, Namath is drunk?
No, and also he's fired.
Yeah.
Yeah, but none of the big name.
Yep, so they held him.
But Namath sobered up after that.
He did.
Not immediately, but that was one of the reasons he sobered up, and he'd be dead now if he
wasn't.
Yeah, that's right.
He's still alive.
He's, what, 80 probably?
Now he does those awful Medicare commercials.
Oh, yeah.
The guy looks so awful, these giant flopping hands and huge ears.
It's like, oh.
Even his introduction, he has to say who he is.
Yeah.
Hi, everybody, this is Joe Namath.
Yeah.
Now, if you need an introduction, yeah.
Anyhow.
All right, moving along.
Here, I did that again.
Drinking game every time we go, or um.
I think it's your mind readjusting to going to another thing.
Yeah, that's like the audible click of the solenoids in my brain switching to the other
position.
That's your remote control, your mind remote control.
All right, now I'm on this channel.
All righty, KC at Las Vegas.
Oh, that was so interesting.
Well, that recipe did not work.
No, I saw those little Kermit the Frog Mahomes dolls in the audience.
Well, there's one guy dressed up like Kermit.
Yes, with a Mahomes jersey on.
With a Mahomes jersey on.
That was so cool.
Well, this is even more primal justice.
This is more of all of that.
So they were mouthing off, including Antonio Pierce, which kind of surprised me.
Yeah, glass houses, dude.
Glass houses.
You wait until they come to Arrowhead.
I bet you they're going to beat them up so bad, they're just going to have paramedics.
More grief counselors in the locker room.
Yeah, grief counselors.
Now, where does it hurt?
Show me on the doll where the chiefs hurt you.
Well, it was closer than we thought.
It was 2720.
Yeah, but that.
Yeah.
We both thought I was 3517, you were 283.
So we both thought it was going to be kind of a blowout thing, but it was fairly close.
Well, the chief's MO was not getting high score in this year.
They didn't enough to win.
Number 64 kept getting holding penalties.
Juanye Morris.
Yeah, yeah, Morris.
He's in there as a replacement for the rookie that they drafted, Prince.
Who was even worse.
Who I can't pronounce his last name.
Yeah, and he was worse.
We had more serious injuries.
Naji Johnson.
Johnson, yeah.
He came in for Watson, who dislocated and fractured his ankle, and now he's out.
Yeah.
Concussion.
We did sign a linebacker from the Patriots.
Yeah, Uche.
U-C-H-E. I think it's pronounced Uche.
Uche.
Yeah, his stats aren't that much, but supposedly he's pretty good at getting in there.
He's a pass rusher.
Yeah, he's a pass rusher.
He's a dedicated pass rusher, which is weird because I thought we already had pass rushers.
It's Spagnolo skiing.
And when you think about it, if you're thin at corner and safe at cornerback, then ramp
up the pressure and don't give the quarterback time to find your weak link.
I believe that this guy is a guy that can go into coverage, too, kind of like a safety.
So they call him a linebacker, but he can play safety duties, and that's what he seems
to be into.
There is a lot of crossover in high school football between the linebacker and safety.
Sometimes you're one, and then you get to college and you're the other.
So you're right in position for each.
They're both physically built about the same, at least while you're still in your teens
in the early 20s.
I think that Spagnolo saw him and said, you know, I think I can do something with this
guy, and they're obviously selling.
So I think they went for it and they got it.
And again, a team that we do good trade with, that we have a good rapport with.
Somebody commented online and said, why are all these teams helping the Chiefs?
That's because we help them.
We fairly compensate them.
Yeah, there's like 10 teams that Brett Veach isn't going to talk to.
Buffalo is one of the teams he does talk to, ironically.
Even though they gave us Mahomes with that pick.
We apparently talked to Miami because we had Jody Hortson back, who's also now injured,
isn't he?
Yes, he is.
Yeah.
And I think that's when Tyreek, well, you know what, we'll go into that a little bit
later.
Yeah.
All right.
I think you'll probably know what I'm going to go after.
Yeah.
OK.
I'm going to bust trades, I'm looking forward to that.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Um, is Vegas done?
Yeah.
I even think Antonio Pierce is on his last leg.
Yeah.
He's not doing and saying the right things to keep his job.
No, he's said so many boneheaded things this year.
He has.
I got to where I don't think he's very good at all when I thought he was really good.
He seemed like a really good motivator, but now he seems like that's the only thing he's
got and that's failing.
I think people are rolling their eyes when he speaks now.
And it is so easy to fire an interim coach.
Yeah.
It's almost like why wouldn't you fire an interim coach?
Well, we were looking for that guy, now we found that guy, so this guy's going.
Yeah.
I agree.
When we talked about the Denver game, I forgot to ask, do you think Denver's getting on a
roll?
Somewhat.
I'm kind of looking for them to get on a roll here.
They still have to play the Chiefs and the Chargers twice.
Yeah.
That's going to be...
I think they are going to be great seasoning for Bo Nix, a very young Bo Nix.
Yeah.
But at the same time, they're probably going to be losses.
At least one of them, if not two.
And if they're not blowouts where he throws a lot of picks or something, that's okay.
I don't think any of them are going to be a blowout.
This team is fighting.
They're playing.
Which is great for Denver, great for Bo Nix's career, kind of bad for the Chiefs.
Yeah, but I mean, we do need that rivalry.
Yeah.
We don't really seem to have one right now.
Let me start over because my brain is jumping around.
It makes a lot of sense to have your best and strongest come out of the fiercest competition.
It's true.
I mean, look at us last year.
Yeah.
I mean, we knuckled it to death.
I mean, fist fights all the way.
And think of a weak division like the NFC West.
Whoever comes out of there is going to be one and done just because they've got such
a weak division.
There's no...
There's four...
No, there's six games a year that they're probably going to have a pretty easy time
in.
Yeah.
I think that's just going to be really telling the teams that had to fight really hard to
get there.
Those are the ones you bet on.
Yeah.
I agree.
And realistically speaking, since all the Chiefs games are fixed, why isn't everyone
betting on the Chiefs to win every year, every week, and you're becoming millionaires?
If anyone saw those penalties on that last game, and you tell me that it's fixed, no,
I think it's fixing...
It might be fixed the other way to where they don't want them in there this year.
No, but really, if you think the games are fixed to help the Chiefs win, then bet on
the Chiefs every time and become a millionaire.
I was taking it the other day.
I'm like, why don't they just bet on them?
Yeah.
Money where your mouth is.
Yeah.
They won't.
Hey, I used to do that to New England.
I get it.
Yeah.
I do too.
Hate the big guy on the block.
Yeah.
I'm just glad we're the one being hated.
Yeah.
That's better than being...
We've been on the underside for a long time.
Yeah.
All right.
Next up, Carolina at Denver.
Denver won 28-14, which is the exact score you predicted.
Hey!
At least I got one small victory this week.
I was 27-10, so I was close, but you were dead on.
Cool.
Yeah.
Bowling's playing better.
Yeah.
They're playing better.
They're playing better than the games that Denver's winning this year.
They're not blowing anyone out.
They're just having a solid win here and there.
Yeah.
I mean, I think they're very capable of getting a playoff spot.
We talked last week about when you put...
What was it?
Bryce?
Bryce Young?
He went in.
Bryce Young.
He went in.
Yeah.
We were saying when you put him back in, and they put him back in.
Yeah.
So why not?
He did okay.
He didn't...
He won as bad as before.
Yeah.
He was a little slower pace with less on the line, and now he can go out there.
With the one in six record, no, one in seven record they now have, he's got to realize
that not that much is riding on him, and he can take the time to learn and do it right.
Yeah.
Because there's no playoff push riding on his shoulders.
Let's hope they can get that.
I don't want the guy to be a bust.
I don't want him to flame out and just go away because that's awful.
To spend so much time getting here and then have it just...
I agree.
Burn up.
It's...
Yeah.
I want him to do well.
I do too.
I want him to find somewhere where his talents work.
I agree.
So someone like Johnny Manziel was a fraud to begin with, so I'm glad he's out of the
league.
Yeah.
He doesn't matter.
Ryan Leith was a raging alcoholic, and he needed to fix that before he could be any
kind of football player.
So he did.
He was out of the league, and now he's sober and doing great.
And then he ended up being a meth head.
Oh my God, that's right.
Remember that?
But he is sober now.
He does a lot of speaking engagements about his trials and errors in life, and I commend
him.
He's a good person.
He's trying to help other people with his own.
Yeah.
So...
And I get it.
A lot of these guys are brought up from childhood saying, football is it.
It's the only thing, it's what you gotta go for, do that or nothing.
So they feel like an utter failure if they're having setbacks in their career.
They run into problems like that.
They turn to drugs, they do stupid things, they act out.
It's an enormous amount of pressure.
So anybody who makes it to the NFL, hell, anyone who makes it to college, I want them
to succeed.
Yeah.
I mean...
I get it in high school.
You're not good enough or you're not, so you're still young and your body's developing.
Go learn something and don't beat your knees up.
Think about the ones, and there's quite a few of them that can't do it academically.
So their only hope to really make a good living in life is going to be athleticism.
Here's an idea.
Trade schools with football teams.
I've always been...
I went to one.
I mean, I've always been an advocate of trade schools because we need people over here that
can do this.
I mean...
There's a bad shortage, just like in the medical industry, but what now?
I get it with colleges because you've got the right age group there.
With trade schools, you've got all sorts.
But you can still have an age limit.
Get some national sheet metal welding academy or whatever and have them...
They're accredited.
They hand out degrees and certifications, et cetera.
Let them feel the football team.
Yeah.
I agree with that.
I was quite the welder.
He welded a big cross.
Nah, nah.
Just joking.
The other day, I saw a picture of a 35-foot metal cross, and it was opened up and it was
packed full of cell phone antennas because the church loaned out that space to the cell
phone companies.
Oh my God.
They have the cross up there anyway, and they're like, hey, cell phone companies, you want
to come put antennas in here?
Yeah.
They're the first church that when they passed around the plate, they didn't really care.
They don't pass around the plate anymore.
They just say, do it Bluetooth.
Yeah.
Venmo me, man.
Anyways.
So, Denver, yeah, Denver's five and three now.
And that made Denver's five and three.
I know.
Isn't that something?
Yeah.
Chargers are only four and three.
Yeah.
I look at Denver maybe being nine and seven this year, or nine and eight.
Yeah, maybe ten and seven.
Yeah.
Come around there.
Yeah.
With a little luck.
I would not be surprised if Denver ended with a winning record.
I wouldn't either.
I expect him to actually now.
It's just a difference between one or two games, like we're saying.
So it's either nine and eight or ten and seven, one of the two.
Coming back to the Chiefs, do you think Carson Steele is about to get replaced by P. Ryan?
Yes.
Because they could throw to P. Ryan.
Yeah.
P. Ryan's got better ball security.
Yeah.
He's more flexible.
I think Carson Steele's going to stay on the team as a blocker and a short yardage guy.
But I think a lot of what Carson Steele was supposed to do this year, I think P. Ryan's
going to do it.
He obviously isn't ready for it.
I think it's there if he can harness it.
Those early fumbles really got him.
Yeah.
That put everyone's confidence in him.
The problem is, remember Kareem Hunt's first carry?
Yeah.
He fumbled.
He did.
I don't think he's fumbled ever since.
Not much.
No, not much.
Not much.
So that right there, and then Carson Steele went on to fumble several other times.
So if you're going to fumble the ball, you're not going to have the ball.
True.
All right, here's the next one up.
Sunday night game.
We both got it wrong.
Dallas at San Francisco.
We both picked Dallas.
You were 24-17.
I was 28-13.
San Francisco won 30-24.
I know.
And it wasn't close for a long time.
No, it wasn't.
Prescott had at least two picks.
Then somebody fumbled in the end zone and he had to land on it.
Yeah.
Did you see the new Dak Prescott cologne?
When you don't want to score?
Yes.
Oh, and then there's another one where he's serving Apple turnovers and it goes, another
one?
You know he wouldn't be getting nearly this much flack if he wasn't so extremely highly
paid?
Exactly.
When somebody's paid that amount of money, the expectations go up with it.
And that's just part of it.
If you're going to take the money, then you've got to deal with the expectations.
So don't expect sympathy from anybody who's not getting your paycheck.
No, no.
You're getting paid that well?
Don't tell me shit.
Yep.
You think Dallas is done?
Yeah, very much.
I don't even think they're going to make the playoffs this year.
They need to admit.
Playoffs?
They need to admit they're rebuilding.
I agree.
But Jerry Jones doesn't like to say those words.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
If you ask him, they're just going through a little functional, moving stuff around.
Little blip, you know.
Yeah, little blip, got to move this around.
We need to make some adjustments.
You know, your building fell down, dude.
Yeah.
Now go back to your drool cup.
Yep.
So San Francisco's back up to four and four.
Dallas falls to three and four.
All right.
This game was a Monday night football game, New York Giants at the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Final score was 26 to 18.
Again, not as close as you would think.
It was pretty close, about halfway through, and then Pittsburgh pulled ahead, and then
Giants tried to mount a comeback that didn't work.
Oh, no, ended up with that pick of Daniel Jones, the highly paid Daniel Jones.
Yes, yes, the savior of the New York Giants.
The thing is, he was mad about his receivers dropping passes, right?
You see them over there grumbling and glaring at him, and they end the game with an intercession.
It's like, watch it, watch it, glass houses.
I knew that was going to happen, by the way, too.
I would guess 31-13, you were 35-17, so 26-18, but it would have been like 26-9 or 26-12,
something like that.
So Giants is another team that I think is done.
That's another one where you're going to have to look at the GM.
Not just that coach, but the GM.
I agree.
He's done questionable move after questionable move.
They've been bad for so long.
I mean, I'm sure they made the playoffs once in the postseason, once in a while here and
there, but you need to have sustained years of making the postseason and then winning
some in order to be a success.
Yeah.
Yep.
Do you want to go into the Christmas Day schedule lineup of the commentators?
Yeah.
Okay, it's going to be on Netflix.
Did you know that?
Or the Chiefs game is?
Oh, not Chris.
No, no, the National.
Wait a minute.
Maybe it might be the Chiefs game.
Christmas Day.
That's right.
They play the Steelers and there's one other game.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm not sure who's going to get who.
Yeah.
They'll have to put it on a local channel here in KC.
Yeah.
By contract, they have to provide it for people who don't have Netflix.
Yeah, they will.
And it's going to be, this is an interesting lineup here.
Okay.
Netflix announced it's a Christmas Day lineup.
Iain Eagle, well his son Noah Eagle will call the other game.
And they haven't mentioned what, okay, so anyhow, Iain will share the booth with JJ Watt
and Nate Burlison.
Oh, wait a minute, it did say it.
JJ will be calling his little brother's TJ Watt's game.
So JJ and Junior, Eagle Junior.
Yeah.
And the Texans taking on the Baltimore Ravens, which will be a great game.
Yeah.
Noah Eagle will be with Fox, Greg Olson for the night game.
Okay, this is the Junior with Greg Olson, who's way more seasoned and experienced to
help.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're trying to get that guy.
It's easy to see that they're trying to get that stable guy in the NFL and then move him
around.
And I think Iain Eagle's son might be doing pretty good.
So I think they might have their eye on him.
Yeah.
What are some of the great broadcasting teams that you remember?
Oh, one was a Deardorff and Kosel.
Yeah.
Love that one.
Deardorff, I really liked.
I did too.
Yeah.
John Madden and who was the gray haired guy he was with?
Oh, Enberg?
Was it Dick Enberg?
No, it wasn't Enberg.
He had a drinking problem.
Yeah.
Anyway, I'll think of it.
I'll jump away from there.
Yeah, the Madden and him, I agree.
I agree.
Yeah.
I think Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth was a really good team.
Yeah, they were stellar.
They were up there.
Yeah.
Kevin Harlan and anybody.
Yeah.
They called the shoes game with Trent Green.
Yeah.
Trent Green has graduated to the NFL regular season now.
They did a stellar job.
I think they did well, yeah.
Yeah, I think both of them.
Well, I mean, of course Harlan does.
Harlan was the play by play guy for the Chiefs radio broadcast way back when.
So he knows the Chiefs intimately and his dad worked for the Packers organization.
The Packers organization.
So he knows them in and out too.
Yeah, he's an up and comer.
I could see Kevin Harlan getting the main gig coming up.
Yeah.
He's got a great voice, a really good style.
I could see him being like the face and voice of a network.
Absolutely.
Mitch Holtes, if he ever wanted to go at the Chiefs game, which I don't think he does,
he could do well.
He's got to drop that stupid sweet nectar of the end zone crap.
Yeah, he's done that a little too much.
Yeah.
I think I got so much pop when he did it.
In last week's game when the Chiefs scored a touchdown, he said that the receiver was
gargling the sweet nectar of the end zone.
Yeah.
How many times can you see the...
You Steve motherfucker, shut the hell up.
He sounds so freaking firm.
You're getting into Chris Collins' territory there.
When you start gargling stuff, you're getting into the
territory, when you start gargling stuff.
Yeah, that's Chris Collins worth all the way.
Leave it for him.
That's just cringey, pervy weird.
I don't know why it's...
It's for other people than me, I guess.
I guess so too.
Me, I catch every bit of it, but I have a dirty mind.
Yeah.
So that's what's going to happen.
Okay, next I want to go to the Cleveland Browns quarterback graveyard, North Ridgeville neighborhood
of the Cleveland area, the Cleveland Metroplex.
There's a gentleman there who, his Halloween are tombstones of all the quarterbacks that
have been killed via the Cleveland Browns.
So anyhow, they coincidentally done a, what would you call it, a focus panel or a whatever.
Investigating committee.
Yeah, investigating committee, voted by the dog pound.
The people that know, this is a top 10 list of the quarterbacks that have found their
fate at the mercy of the Cleveland Browns.
All right.
It's okay.
I'm going to start from 10 down.
All right.
Even though I have it written the other way.
So if I fuck up, they probably will forgive me.
Number 10, Robert Griffin III.
Oh, I forgot he played there.
I don't quite agree with that though.
No, I think his career was pretty much toast when he got there.
Yeah, yeah.
So that one I don't agree with.
Yeah, they didn't really finish him off, but I could see why they want to claim it.
There's three or four on here I don't agree with because of that.
Now the top ones.
Yeah.
Okay.
Number nine is Jake DeLong.
He came from Carolina.
Didn't he?
Yeah.
He was a Panther for a while.
And I could maybe accept that because when he left there, he was still a decent quarterback
and he didn't promptly kind of fall on his face.
So maybe I can accept that one.
But a number eight, I cannot.
Number eight is Jeff Garcia.
He was flushable way before that.
Yeah.
Yeah, he seemed to do well in San Francisco, but Terrell Owens really kind of screwed him
up.
Really, really bad.
Yeah.
Because Terrell Owens was really screwed up.
Yeah, and promptly threw it at him.
Yeah.
So yeah.
I forgot all that stuff.
Boy, he said a bunch of shit about him.
Wasn't it like insinuate he was gay?
Yeah.
And then the gaming happening, especially since it was San Francisco.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I put it like this.
I see more hotter chicks with Jeff Garcia than I ever did Terrell Owens.
Terrell Owens pretty much had to pay for Russian hookers.
Allegedly.
I like a big boy.
Number seven, Deshaun Heiser.
Some people pronounce it Deshaun.
I remember him.
Yeah.
The guy I agree with.
Yeah.
Boom, flatline.
Yeah, he did nothing.
Lifeless.
He probably wouldn't even have been welcome in the arena league.
Oh, no.
No.
The, what is it?
And that damn it, the new league that we-
UFL.
The UFL would be that.
No.
Yeah.
No.
All right.
Number six, I don't agree with at all because he was toast a long time before this.
Vinny Testaverde.
You know, I didn't think they'd put him on the list.
I didn't think so.
He did well.
He did, he did, well, Schottenheimer did well with him.
Tim Couch wasn't on the list because he actually took him to a playoff.
Playoff?
Yeah, he took him to a playoff game even though it wasn't him, it was defense.
Yeah.
I'd say swap out Couch for Testaverde.
I would too.
Yeah.
Yeah, he threw like a couch.
And Vinny Testicles went on to the Jets, I think.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah.
And he did better with, Testicle did better with the Jets and he did with the Browns.
But actually, Testaverde means green testicles.
I read that.
It actually does.
Oh, does it really?
Yeah.
Testa means, you know, Testa, testicles, testify.
So someone didn't like his family when they named him over here.
Yeah.
So you've heard of the term testify?
It's because guys used to grab their crotch before swearing.
Oh.
They were swearing on their balls.
That's why it's called a testament, a testify.
That's not a coincidence.
Wow.
That's what we used to swear on before there were Bibles.
Swearing your balls.
That's awesome.
Isn't it?
Yeah, it is.
So anyone in church yells, testify.
All the guys should just grab their nuts.
Grab their nuts?
Yeah.
All right.
Number, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot.
Yeah, number, where was I?
You were on Vinny.
Yeah, yeah.
Number five, Charlie Fry.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
That's going back.
Yeah.
With an E, right?
Yes.
F-R-Y-E.
Yeah, Fry-E.
Fry-ya.
Charlie Fry-ya.
Oh, he's part of the Fyre Festival, I do believe.
Oh, yeah.
Almost felt the same way.
Excuse me.
There's a lot of wind here and there's blowing crap everywhere.
I bet.
It's blowing up my ass.
Oh, I've had nine things in my eye.
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All right.
Number four, you're going to get a good laugh out of this.
Brandon Weeden.
Oh, I remember the Weed Boy.
Yeah, the Weed Boy.
Skip Bayless said the Browns just stole a starting quarterback when he was traded.
Brandon Weeden.
Much better than Tannahill.
Who's still in the league?
Tannahill.
I think so.
Or at least had a longer career.
Who's selling the interns?
Brandon Weeden.
And Weehawken.
Weehawken.
Weeden from Weehawken.
Hi there.
Yeah, I remember you slam.
All right.
Let me sack you one time just for old time's sake.
Yeah.
Number three I'd agree with because, well, he did flame out.
Yeah.
Even though he might still be the starter, who knows?
Deshaun Watson.
Yeah.
Because he may have still have potential after the Texans.
If he had cleaned up his act, admitted everything, said, I'm sorry, let me make it right, then
right now he'd be having a really good career in Cleveland.
Yeah, but no.
But he had to dig in and say, uh-uh.
Yeah.
And then everything else.
I mean, I don't even need to get into it.
Everybody knows.
Number two, Brady Quinn.
Whoa.
Yeah.
100%.
Brady Quinn.
He bounced around a little bit too.
Yeah, he did.
I think I remember him being a Bear.
Yeah, for a little bit briefly.
Yeah.
I remember somebody saying, the Bears just signed quarterback, but it was Brady Quinn.
I know Tim Couch, yes, but wasn't Brady Quinn in a Chiefs uniform for like a second?
That sounds right, yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
But I'm not even sure if he played.
No.
He might have been a backup.
But anyhow, he wasn't there very long.
Kind of a mentor role.
Yeah.
Number one, and why?
I don't know.
Number one, Johnny Football Mantell.
Yes.
I would agree with the number one.
Yeah.
That guy was a fraud from the beginning.
Oh my God.
What a mess he was.
He definitely flamed out in Cleveland because he couldn't maintain the illusion.
Yeah.
All he had to do was just go from Vegas, right?
Yeah.
He was in Vegas.
All he had to do was just fly there and they would put him out on the field.
They didn't care.
Yeah.
Because he was-
He decided to stay and party because he missed his flight.
Yeah.
And it's funny how much the press doesn't tell you.
Yeah.
Because all this came out of nowhere.
Remember when we were all told that his parents were wealthy?
Yeah.
Okay.
That was always a lie.
I know.
That's a lie he made up to cover... That was the laundry all the money he was getting
for the illegal autographs he was signing and selling merchandise.
Yeah.
And all that extra crap on the side.
So-
How much does it work now?
He had to explain where all the money was coming from, so they just said, oh, my parents
are rich and nobody checked.
No one checked.
Yeah.
No one checked.
Yeah.
You would think at least the league-
Well, people would automatically go, well, that's how the city got in college.
Yeah.
So, you want to do some bullet points?
Well, I love me some bullet points.
All right.
Later on, next year, year after, year after, whatever, will the Chiefs part ways with Kelsey
or will he retire a Chief?
I think he's going to retire a Chief.
I do too.
Especially with the influence of his brother, Jason.
I think he's-
He's going to tell him, don't you want to walk your grandkids down the aisle?
Uh-huh.
He's going to go, you know what?
Yeah, I do.
Yeah.
He might have been the kind of guy who would retire because they were going to cut him
anyway, but I think now he's the kind of guy who's going to pick his moment and go
out.
Yeah.
And the reason is because he has all these other things going on that he doesn't have
to.
He doesn't have to be there right now.
He could be bigger outside than he is like Jason Kelsey.
You know how movies come out to your movie theater and the theater makes more money on
the popcorn and candy than they do selling tickets?
Yeah.
I think Kelsey's making more money outside of his football income.
So now his football paycheck is looking like small potatoes and he's like, huh, all the
money I put in, all the time I spend on football, I could spend on something else that's going
to get me paid three times as much and I don't hurt when I wake up.
Exactly.
That's the main thing because he already stated a couple of times, he feels every injury every
day.
Yeah.
It's his desire and passion that keeps him going, which I thank and appreciate.
I don't have nearly as many injuries as he does, but I do.
Oh yeah.
I do when I wake up.
I make noises getting up.
I make old man noises.
I limp half the time.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the way it is.
So anyhow, all right.
Tyreke is at it again.
Okay.
So in the Hopkins trade to the Chiefs, he posts a big, hmm, what's his point now?
I think his point was why did you sign him and not me?
Yeah.
That's what I thought too.
Yeah.
Well, that's something that I'm going to go into.
You know what?
I'm going to go ahead and do it now.
Let me see and just knock it off because these two should have went together.
Target of opportunity.
Yes.
All right.
So, Hopkins, when Mahomes won the last Super Bowl, he posted, Mahomes is different.
It was a compliment.
Oh yeah.
I remember that.
That was a prelude.
Yeah.
He was thinking already.
He was working.
Yeah.
I'm missing there are a lot of players out there who are putting themselves in a position
to get onto the Chiefs.
Yes.
And that was the initial, that was the inaugural.
What did he'll do when he left?
He'll make a dog to piss out of.
So who did they look at when they needed somebody and two were available?
We're going to take Hopkins.
Why?
Well, he loves us.
Yeah.
You?
I don't think so.
Imagine you're a senior in high school and the girlfriend you've had since sophomore
year decides to leave and you find a new girlfriend.
And your ex is out there and finds a new boyfriend and posts about how he's better than you and
smarter than you and more fun than you.
And then you're still having fun with your new girlfriend and then your ex starts saying,
oh, I miss you.
I want to come back.
Oh, I see where you're going.
Yeah.
The ex is Tyreek Hill and he's been over there in Miami talking shit about you, the ex boyfriend.
Yeah.
That's right.
And now all of a sudden the things aren't working out for him and he sees that you're
still doing fine.
She's like, can I come back?
I always love you.
Yeah.
That's kind of how Tyreek sounds right now.
Yeah.
You know what?
That's great.
The scorn on their own hands.
Yeah.
Scorn at their own hands is even worse.
Tyreek walked out and now he's crawling back.
Yes.
And you know, if the cheese want to sign him and use him and get him, you know, that's all
right.
I don't care.
But I'd be all right if they didn't.
Okay.
Here's what I think too.
It's going to be a product of opportunity.
Yeah.
It's going to be a product of opportunity all the way.
They're not going to trade for him.
They're not going to outwardly try to get him.
But he kind of falls in their lap.
They consider it.
I think there is a way where he could get cut and then pass the waivers and then the
chiefs could pick him up as a free agency.
And the teams have used that to get around the trade deadline in the past.
Yeah.
And I'm going to go ahead and rip into another question because this is a point of opportunity
too.
Okay.
When is Tyreek going to start acting out?
He's already showed fringes of it.
November 5th is the last day of the trade deadline.
Yeah.
So I'm thinking this week or next week coming up.
Yeah, I think so.
We're going to see some bold things coming up from him.
Yeah.
And that is in an effort to get cut in hopes that maybe even the bills.
But definitely the chiefs.
Get him.
Yeah.
And I could see him if the trade deadline passes, then he might ramp it up and do some
things that are just stupid enough to get him cut.
Yeah.
But not so bad that it would invoke the league penalties.
Exactly.
Yes.
So that's a fine line he'll have to walk.
Yeah.
And then of course the league would have to investigate because if they're trying to do
an end run around the trade deadline, then there are penalties to be levied.
Yeah.
And you know what?
He's already, I'm pretty sure he's thinking all that over.
Yeah.
Look, Tuah coming back is probably irrelevant to him.
He needs stats.
He needs stats now and he needs another ring or playoff.
And he wants, right now he's looking at get another ring, do something to make it to the
Hall of Fame.
Yeah.
And I'm sure that there are firms out there who know exactly how to help him in this situation.
Yeah.
You know, here's how you're going to act.
Here's what you're going to say.
Here's what you're going to do.
Let's see how the team reacts.
Okay, now let's modify it.
You need to push them harder here so they'll cut you.
I agree.
But people will still like you.
He's got lots of help doing this.
He's not flying all on his own.
He's got a game plan that he's paid for that somebody came up with for him.
We'll see how it plays out.
Yeah.
It's going to be interesting because we're going to have a lot of, I told you so, is
coming up, I'm pretty sure.
Yeah.
Next one.
Should the 49ers look to replace him in Shanahan?
You know, I think so.
I think so too.
I think they have all the talent in the whole world and they're not winning it.
And that's the kind of fatigue that the fans will get to where...
We went through it with Schottenheimer.
Yeah.
We were winning seasons.
We were winning our division.
We were getting the playoffs.
Playoffs?
Playoffs.
But it just wasn't good enough.
Well, everybody was calling for Schottenheimer's head, remember?
Yeah.
And eventually happened.
Yep.
He couldn't get us past that big hurdle.
Yeah.
And then people started realizing, what's the whole point if we're never going to get
any farther than this?
It's dry jacking.
Yeah.
That's what we call dry jacking.
That basically means almost there, but not quite there.
So the dry jacking is killing people over there and I agree with it.
Nobody likes to be dry jacked.
So...
Yeah.
Well, they do while they're being jacked, but that's it.
Well, yeah.
I don't know about that.
It's like, hey, hey, hey.
So, anyhow.
There was kind of a jazz fusion band back in the 70s in town called Dry Jack.
I think I remember that.
And I think they played it off as...
I remember me as a child laughing.
Yeah.
But it was kind of like the alcohol, Apple Jack or Cider Jack or whatever.
It's when you freeze a boozy substance and all the alcohol migrates to the center and
concentrates.
There used to be a gin called Dry Sack.
Yeah.
Maybe there still is.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I used to giggle with that too.
Of course, there's also a band called 10cc.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All I can say is this right here.
Look it up.
Yep.
Yeah.
10cc is an average of something.
Actually, 1cc is the average.
So they inflated it to 10 to be Superman.
Superman, that's right.
There's something that the average volume of is 1cc.
One cubic centimeter.
Yep, yep.
One centimeter baby goo.
It kind of goes along with the 9 inch nail.
Oh yeah, that is what they used on Christ.
Yeah.
But people don't know that.
They're like, 9 inch nails?
I don't know how neat.
It's like, no, no, no, no.
A friend of mine had a hat that said 9 inch males.
Awesome.
And then remember when 9 inch nails got hot, there were a lot of imitator bands?
Yes.
They were called 8 inch nails.
8 inch nails.
I thought that was so clever.
I wish I could think of the names because they were so funny to listen to.
It's like, okay.
Oh, one was Stabbing Westward.
Stabbing Westward, that's who I was getting right at.
Yeah.
I couldn't think of their name.
The Smiths.
Gravity Kills.
Yeah.
Right now, you've got a band called Chevelle that's imitating Tool.
Yeah, yeah, but they're very horrible at it.
Yeah.
Chevelle is one of the ones, they're not sure who they are.
Yeah.
They have some decent songs.
They do, they do.
Their songs are not the ones that they're trying to imitate Tool though.
No.
You know, have you noticed that?
The songs that make radio play are not really so much there.
But I mean, they do have a certain degree of talent.
It's just they need to come up with their own style, in my opinion.
They need a new producer that isn't going to quit making them sound like Tool on the
record.
Exactly, yeah.
They're writing songs like Tool.
They have kind of singing them the way Tool.
The producer can overwrite that and it's like, yeah guys, let's be ourselves.
Yeah.
Because they're already doing Tool and they're way better at it than you are.
Yeah, yes.
So it's like that guy up in Nebraska for the Cornhuskers.
He worked out when Mahomes had Mahomes haircut.
Oh yeah.
Well, he's not Mahomes.
No.
So idiot.
He's good, but he's not Mahomes.
All right.
Is all the criticism of Shanahan valid?
I'll say most.
Most of it?
Yeah.
Some of it.
Come on.
The players have to play.
They have to play right.
They have to play good.
They have to be on par at least.
A lot of that was subpar.
How in the world do you not know the rules of overtime in the Super Bowl?
Didn't you like go to the sideline and go, hey guys, remember this?
Remember this?
You've got to be Shanahan, the rest is them.
Where were they when the rules were sent out?
You have two weeks before the Super Bowl to go over and prepare.
And there are different rules in the Super Bowl than in regular season games.
Yes.
They're slightly different.
And that's where the head coach didn't go over them and these meatheads forgot them.
I mean, I'll go back to one where their tight end kibble.
Kibble.
I like that.
Kittle.
Dog kibble.
Yeah, dog kibble.
I really didn't mean that.
I just meant one.
George Kittle.
Him and George Karloftas were making fun of each other for having the name George.
Yeah.
OK.
Let's see.
George Kittles is one and Karloftas is from Greek, which is George over here.
It's kind of like Jorge.
Yeah.
And it was like some sort of a thing where I think Kittle's origin is something we're
somewhere else to, like Karloftas is.
And they're giving each other shit about each other's George name.
Yeah.
Yes.
So he instead of seeing the ball pop loose from the receiver, I believe it was her, no
it was running back.
Well, whoever.
Yeah.
Instead of seeing that, he was too busy giving George Karloftas the business over his name
and Karloftas was focusing on the game and grabbed the because he was right.
Kittle was in perfect position to grab the fumble, but Karloftas was paying attention.
Yeah.
So you can't coach that.
Yeah.
To be doing that during the play.
Yes.
That's, I mean, after the play's over, you want to say something, guys do that all the
time.
Yeah, but during the play when it was still live, why do you do that?
Arrogance.
Arrogance, yeah.
So that was not Shanahan's fault, but that was a big part in the game that turned the
game.
And a lot of people want Kittle fired because of that.
They're like, no, no, no, we don't want that guy on our team.
It subsided since then, but right after Super Bowl, it was raw and there was a big hubbub
on line about getting rid of him.
Yeah.
Marcus Peters, defensive back for the Chiefs was awesome, but he kept drawing on sportsmanlike
conduct penalties.
Yeah.
It just wasn't worth it.
The thing is, is it outweighed him doing all the interceptions.
He was an interception master.
He was an interception maestro.
He was like Deion Sanders.
He didn't tackle.
He just picked the ball off.
Yeah.
He would pick the ball off and he wasn't there to tackle.
He was there to pick the ball off, obviously.
But like you said, the play he just made, he just lost because he did something.
Yeah.
I remember one time he picked up the ref's flag and threw it into the stands.
Yes.
I think he got ejected for that one.
He did.
He got ejected.
But this is going to go on another one, but I want you to think about it.
This is going to be next week.
Okay.
Should the peace sign that Tyreek Hill used to throw up be considered taunting because
he got penalties?
But leave that alone.
We'll do that next week.
Okay.
We have enough stuff this week.
We'll do that next week until probably 8.30 tomorrow to get all this done.
Yeah.
All right.
Should head injury prone players such as Tago Viola be made to wear padded helmets?
Wow.
That's kind of like seatbelt laws and helmet laws, isn't it?
Yeah.
I mean for their own good.
You know, I think actually it is not like helmet and seatbelt laws because they are
working for a company and business and they're on the clock.
Exactly.
It's nothing like it.
They're on hand grenades.
The employer can mandate a uniform.
You're right.
So yeah, I think the league, the teams would be perfectly within their rights to require
him to wear that extra, kind of the guardian helmet.
Is that the name of it?
Yeah, the guardian helmet.
Just like white cleats.
I think that should be mandated too.
It's like, look, we have two sore spots going on right here and we're going to correct it.
You guys are going to do this or you're going to be out of the league.
One or the other?
I think they've let the players get away on the shoes because the players get individual
shoe contracts.
Yeah, I guess they kind of have to.
The league has a shoe company, but the players themselves can have a model within, like say
it's Nike, they can have a certain Nike model that's theirs that's promoted under their
name and they wear it on game day.
And maybe it's the wrong color for what the team wants, but the players making money doing
that so it's hard to interfere.
True.
But with a helmet, it's like there's no endorsement on the helmet except for the manufacturer
as you know, Redel or whoever.
Put on the guardian helmet to safeguard them.
I do too.
Okay, so that's a yes from both of us.
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
Should Mike McDaniels, head coach of the Dolphins, be under scrutiny?
He wasn't winning games at Tiltua and now the same result.
Example, Coach Reed won a lot of games with backup or average quarterbacks.
And so has other coaches that are better.
Tomlin, a great example, average or subpar quarterbacks.
There's a lot more, but why go into him?
I definitely think he's got some, as Ricky would say, you got some spleening to do.
Yes, yeah.
Go see a physio-key-atrist.
He's like Shanahan.
Yeah, yeah.
Look it up.
Get some anal-ysus.
Yeah.
I think he's like Shanahan.
You're not trying to circumcise the rules.
That was so awesome.
Hey, look, a Tesla truck.
Hey, pour water on it.
Look it up.
Eddie, go ahead.
It's a trash dumpster on wheels.
Yeah, I think Shanahan, I think Mike McDaniels is like Shanahan.
He's got the pieces.
He's running out of excuses.
Yeah, it's like, well, where's the results?
Yeah.
The players are there, the pieces are there.
Let's get someone else in here who can use them properly.
Yeah, I agree.
It's like putting a different driver in your race car.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that happens all the time.
It's like this guy isn't winning and we have this sophisticated, we're sure that it should
be winning every year.
Changing jockeys for a horse.
It's going to be your guy.
Yes, yeah.
Absolutely.
That's not necessarily a quarterback thing.
It's the head coach thing.
It's the head coach thing, yes.
Okay.
Should the NFL give an extra timeout, I went into this with you in the car.
I love this one.
And I did this on the patio down at the Flat Iron Suites because that's one of those great
places to think.
Yeah.
You know, people are bustling by underneath.
You see people over on the other side on the balcony restaurant.
It's a great place to write.
Should the NFL give an extra timeout at the one minute marker, but the team has to go
back 20 yards from where they're at in exchange.
Now I want to go into this right here.
I didn't think about this when I wrote this, but think about this.
Okay, a Mahomes, a Josh Allen.
These strong arms will do it in a heartbeat.
They can get that 20 yards back in a heartbeat.
Yeah, they'll do one pass and get 40 yards.
Okay, boom.
There we go.
We got that extra timeout.
That's what we needed.
I think that that would be a brilliant rule that they enacted.
I really like it.
I do too.
I really like it.
It really loves offense and scoring and passing.
This would extend an important game by just a minute.
It's also going to make it really, really, really tricky.
Because if you do it and it works, you're a genius.
If you do it and it doesn't work, you're the stupidest fucker ever.
Yeah.
Imagine you do that, then you get sacked and you're out of field goal range.
Yeah, then you're going to be like, you're the go.
But if you do it and it works, you're the hero.
It's like, oh my gosh.
Did you see Reed pull that?
It's really no different from going for two as opposed to going for one.
No, it's a risk.
And it might pay off, it might not.
But do you think they should be out of timeouts before they can use that or maybe down to
one so they can still call for it?
I think down to one.
Yeah, I think down to one.
Because part of the strategy is the whole purpose of this.
Yeah.
So down to one, yeah.
I think that's good.
Yeah.
And also, it's just going to make the game so much fun, people are going to go, hey,
look, come here.
He opted to go 20 yards back.
He's got an extra timeout.
So anyhow, but you have to call it right before the one minute mark.
If you don't call it, that's it.
It goes on.
Yeah.
Or maybe have a one minute warning in addition to the two minute warning.
Yeah, but it doesn't really stop the clock.
Stop the clock, you know, stop it and check.
Well, put it in a 30 second commercial.
Yeah, Jake from State Farm, yeah.
And that way, someone that's running out the clock doesn't have to like go, well, now we
can't spike the ball.
Yeah, that would get rid of if you have a first down after the two minute warning and
the other team doesn't have timeouts, you just kneel three times and the game's over.
This would get rid of that.
Yes, it would.
Yeah.
I think there's something there.
Will it ever happen?
Probably not.
There's something there.
All right, next one.
Expansion in other parts of the world.
Good idea.
Will it hurt the quality with the thinning of premium players and wear and tear on the
travel to and from?
Travel, yeah.
Definitely.
It is definitely going to dilute the talent because America is the only place where American
style football is started from the time you were a kid.
They've recovered very nicely from every expansion they've ever had.
So I tend to believe unless it's like 10 teams at once, if it's a couple of teams, you're
probably okay.
Usually when they do the expansions, they have an expansion draft and they let each
team pick certain players that are off the table.
And then you have certain players that they can take back after three rounds and take
off the table.
And then the rest are up for grabs.
I agree.
And then they have rules in place.
You can't take more than a certain number of players from any one team.
They could do that with like a European expansion and then require them to have a certain number
of European players.
Yeah.
It is definitely going to dilute the talent in the NFL, but it won't necessarily be a
bad thing.
No, I agree.
Because if you've got several bad running backs, then the other teams can score on them.
If you've got a team with bad defensive backs, then you can score on them.
It's going to make for more offense, I think.
I agree, too.
Offenses can always recover quicker than defenses to something like that.
I agree completely.
And then finally, the NFL is looking for the next Al Michaels.
They're openly looking for the next Al Michaels.
They've said this to the league.
They're looking for this guy.
They need this.
Al Michaels is what, 75, 76?
Yeah, he's up there.
Yeah, he's good.
He doesn't like to travel much anymore?
They sent him to Amazon.
Yeah, he doesn't like to travel much.
But the league sent him to Amazon.
He didn't go on his own accord because they needed quality control.
Yeah, they needed to improve the quality.
They improved the quality of the Amazon games.
Yeah, just a couple of weeks ago I found this out.
I didn't know it.
I thought that he did it on his own because of the flex schedule.
Oh, they sent him one.
No, they sent him there.
So do you have any ideas on who you think could be the next Al Michaels?
I think Kevin Harlan, who we talked about earlier, could definitely step in.
Yep.
What about Joe Buck?
Maybe so.
I think Kevin Harlan, Joe Buck, and the surprising one who I'm really liking to listen to, I
mean, I know Tom Brady, yeah, he's good to listen to, Greg Olson.
Greg Olson, he has a much better deliver than I ever thought.
He's really factual.
And he comes up with little quips here and there that are really good.
Just imagine a pair of Joe Buck and Greg Olson.
That would be great.
Or if Kevin Harlan and Greg Olson, or Kevin Harlan and Joe Buck.
Kevin Harlan and Tom Brady.
That would be it.
I would love to see that.
There you go.
Yes.
That would draw a list of watchers.
When it seems like there's nothing, when you look at it, there's really something.
They've got some people to pick from and who to groom and what games to put them on.
So it's going to be interesting to see this.
Wow.
Yeah.
I would love to see a pairing of Harlan and Brady and see how they can do in a game.
Yeah.
Cool.
Whoa.
Table top just lifted off.
Wasn't that crazy?
It was.
It's still spinning around a little bit.
It's like a giant frisbee now.
Wow.
I don't think I was attached.
What do you think?
No, I don't think it was all that attached.
I'm glad they didn't keep flying.
That would fuck somebody up.
Decapitate them.
All right.
Well, that's the end of the.
Yep.
I just want to say before the end of this playoffs.
All right.
Anyhow.
All right.
We will say goodbye on this one and we'll say hello on the next one you listen to if
you listen to it in order.
Let's hope so.
It makes more sense that way.
Yes.
They love talking sports.
Arambe doesn't talk sports anymore.
Why not?
Because Arambe's dead.
Arambe died because some idiot could not watch their children play.
He's dead.
Arambe died because some idiot could not watch your children play while they were on the
phone.
They shot him senselessly murdered.
Arambe does not talk sports anymore.
Sorry Arambe.
Did you really sit there and listen to all that garbage that you're speaking?
Do you actually believe one inch of it?
I didn't think so.
Hang on.
Sorry, Hirambe.
Did you really sit there and listen to all that garbage that you're spitting?
Do you actually believe one inch of it?
I didn't think so.
Hang on, game over.