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near the banks of the beautiful crystal blue waters of the Missouri River,
it is the origin to Topher and Mark giving the 2024 football predictions for the new land.
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Alright. And we're off and running again. Sports Bastards!
I'm the Topher Bastard. I am the Mark Bastard and we are still at the Nashville International Airport?
Yeah, we got delayed again. Yeah, but that's okay. You know what? We're just going to keep doing our podcast
and hopefully if they call our flight we'll hear them. We got more coffee so we're ready to go.
Yeah, and it's Filthy Bean Coffee too. We have a coffee shop in here that serves Filthy Bean Coffee.
Also they have their espresso here too but we opted out of that because there's less caffeine in the espresso.
So I guess this is the episode where we pick our winners and losers of next week. Or this week I guess.
Week 7. Week 7 already. It doesn't feel like it's week 7 does it? No it doesn't. It seems like it just got underway.
I mean, you know, the Chiefs have their bye week so their sixth game will be this weekend.
And I'll be on my way to Eureka Springs so hopefully, I don't know about the time,
I'm going to try to time it out to where I can get there and watch the game in a bar somewhere.
So we'll see what happens. Yeah, that would be a good spot. It would be noisy.
I mean, I have SiriusXM and I can catch it on there but I don't like their feed.
They never use Kevin Harlan and the guys. Or not, Mitch Holtes. Yeah.
Kevin Harlan used to be our guy. Yeah, in order to get the actual Kansas City local broadcast,
there's some paywall you've got to get past. Yes, yeah.
So anyhow, I'm hoping to do that. We'll see if it turns out or not.
So then next week I'm calling in. It'll probably be Tuesday, 9am or something like that.
I'll speak to you about that later. Alright. But I'm going to be calling from down there
and Topher will be recording it here at the NoFilter Studio. Yeah.
So, anyhow, go ahead. Alright.
There's that damn feather again. Damn it.
This week's buys are Cowboys and Bears, only two teams.
Okay. So for some reason we had four teams the last two weeks but now it's just two teams.
Now it's just two.
We'll start our Thursday night with 3-3 Denver at 2-4 New Orleans.
This is an intriguing one. It isn't it? Yeah.
Sean Payton going to New Orleans. Yeah.
Okay. Is Derek Kaur starting or is he still out?
I think he's still out. At this point I'm going to say he's going to be out and Rattler's going to play.
Okay. Then I'm going to say that probably Denver should win.
And besides that Sean Payton probably wants to get one on his old team too.
There's a lot of motivation this week.
23-10 Denver.
Alright. I'm going to pick Denver as well for the same reasons.
Sean Payton's motivated. Denver had a good...
They've been playing well. Let me put it that way.
I think it'll be close. I'm going to go 17-14.
I can see that too.
Alright. Next is London at 8-30 in the morning.
Again. 1-5 New England at 1-5 Jacksonville.
What a turd this is. This is Jacksonville's second week in a row in London.
It's the third option to eat a bullet.
Let me flip a coin. I'm going to say Jacksonville.
Just because... No reason.
No reason. By 3. 17-14.
Alright. I'm going to go New England.
Just because Jacksonville's probably feeling pretty crappy about themselves and had to stay there.
They either had to stay there for an extra week or had to fly back again.
I don't know how that would have worked.
Drake May might be trying to throw the ball a little bit more.
I can see that too. I'm going to stick with my original.
I'm going to go 24-17 New England.
Okay. Then you're kind of like me. Just because.
I probably won't watch that with much interest.
I'm not waking up at 8-30 for that one.
Alright. Noon on Sunday. 4-1 Detroit at 5-0 Minnesota.
Division rivals.
I'm going to go with Detroit.
I think Detroit's going to knock the big guy off their block.
I think Campbell is going to come up with a really good recipe to beat the Vikings.
Sam Darnold at some point has got to be Sam Darnold.
To some degree.
I think the score is going to be probably 31-30.
In a real nut tugger.
Wow. That will tug a lot of nuts.
Yeah. It's going to be a nut tugger so bad it's uncomfortable.
Yeah. You're going to have to move around a little bit.
Cheese man.
Please quit tugging.
I'm going to go Minnesota just to be different.
They could. They're a good team.
Yeah. They're playing at home.
Yeah. I'm pretty comfortable with Minnesota.
I'm going to say 27-17.
This is easily picked Minnesota. I get it.
That one's going to be up in the air.
That's going to be a nut tugger.
There's not a lot of really difficult to choose games but that was one of them.
I'm going to wear my jock strap on that one.
My nuts are going to be uncomfortably tugged.
Next up Tennessee at 1-4 against Buffalo.
At Buffalo 4-2.
Buffalo.
I think Buffalo is going to be dying to get right and I think Tennessee is the perfect team at home to get right on.
I'm going to say 32-7.
Yeah. I'm thinking big score too. I'm going 28-9 Buffalo.
Don't you see them just trying to correct the sins of the past?
Yeah. And at home.
Yeah. At home.
Yeah.
And Tennessee Titans used to be the Houston Oilers and they were the ones that historically came into Buffalo
and came back from 35 down to beat Buffalo in their own stadium in the playoffs.
Wasn't that Warren Moon and Company?
Yeah.
Playoffs.
Yeah. Tennessee is going to have to show me something before I'll pick them again.
95 yards.
I mean I'll pick Tennessee over the Raiders if they play this year.
Yeah. Because O'Connell will have 83 yards.
Yeah.
Alright. Next up, 2-3 Miami at 3-3 Indy.
Oh wow. Okay. Is Huntley still the quarterback for Miami?
I have no idea. I was going to ask you who the quarterback is.
Hang on. Let's find this out. Huntley was the backup to Jackson Lamar Jackson when Lamar Jackson was sitting out because of his contract.
Oh that's right.
And he's kind of a running quarterback and has somewhat talent. I mean he's not bad but I mean that system in Miami is not like lending to him very well because but anyhow.
Well while you look that up I'm going to go ahead and give mine. I'm picking Indy. 24-15.
Miami Dolphins quarterback.
I think Indy's got up together quite a bit. Miami is still struggling to still trying to put pieces together.
So I see Indy at home building a good lead and then Miami coming back and going for a two point conversion.
That's where I get 15.
Okay. I'm going to go. It looks like it's probably going to be Huntley although they say that Tagovaiola is starting to get in the conversation again.
Oh wow.
Okay. I'm going to say Miami's got enough to pull it off. I'm going to say 20-17.
Alright.
So yeah. Huntley is the interim guy for now and those two just isn't going to come back at all.
Yeah.
And they have you know I mean I think they have enough left in them to do this. 20-17 they're going to try to pull it out.
Yeah. They'll take chances. I can see Miami taking chances from this point on to try to right the ship.
Yeah. I mean it's not going to work. I mean if they couldn't win with two they're not going to win with Huntley.
Tyreek Hill will get to this in bullet points but Tyreek Hill seemingly kind of wants out because this is his contract season.
Yeah.
And he's not getting any stats without two of their.
Yeah.
None. I mean he's like I don't know a couple hundred yards at best.
Yeah. But on the other hand he's not coming here.
No. But we'll get into that on bullet points.
Yeah. So yeah I could see him wanting out early.
Yeah I could too. Yeah I mean I don't know what else. Yeah okay Miami put up a fight I'm saying.
All right.
And they're going to try to get into playoffs but I don't think I think they're going to fall short. So anyhow that's it.
All right. Next game Seattle at three and three at Atlanta four and two.
Okay. Kirk Cousins playing well. Atlanta is playing well and they're playing in Atlanta.
In Atlanta.
I think Seattle has no choice but to go under 500.
Yeah.
I think that Atlanta is going to not put a whoopam on them but do a decisive win. I'm going to say 24 to 14.
Really close to what I'm saying. I'm going also with Atlanta. I'm saying 27 13.
Okay. We got the same thing in mind. A solid win. They're not going to be like excessively brute on them.
Atlanta can be explosive at times but they aren't going to need to be.
No I think they're just going to play what they need to do and that's it. And I mean they don't have anything else to really prove on it.
So yeah.
All right. Easy pick. This one's going to be a little tougher. Five and one Houston at four and two Green Bay.
Okay. Green Bay does have a pretty decent defense.
Yeah.
Jordan Love is not overly impressed me but at the same time he's not horrible.
No.
CJ Stroud is doing well now. He's starting to come alive. He's starting to figure some things out. He's starting to get past some of the roadblocks that thrown at him.
Yeah.
And Nixon is starting to start up what we knew he should be.
Uh huh.
So I'm going to say that the Texans have enough to beat them on the road.
But it's going to be a 27-24 game.
All right.
They're going to go down to the wire.
Yeah.
The Lambeau Field mystique has drained away.
I agree.
So there's really not that anymore.
I think Houston can go in on the road in Green Bay and just treat it like any other road game.
I think so too.
And I think they're going to win on the road at Green Bay.
I'm going to go with...
Let me see.
28-17.
Sounds good.
All right.
Next up, two and four Cincy at one and five Cleveland.
Oh.
Okay. I got to go Cincy.
This is the easy schedule that I've been talking about.
Yeah.
Cincy is going to go an inch closer to that 500 mark.
And I'm going to say it's not going to be an overwhelming win, but it's going to be a win.
And I'm going to say it's probably going to be something in the realm of 20-19.
Ooh.
That'll be a good game to watch.
Yeah.
I think so too.
Yeah.
I think Cleveland's going to fight him well just because.
Yeah.
I think Cleveland's defense is good enough to anyway, but we'll definitely get up for
Cincy when they're playing in the dark.
There's enough of a rivalry there to where I think that they're going to figure out enough
to stay in the game.
Yeah.
These are the teams that used to throw batteries and snowballs and rocks.
Yes.
So I think there's enough of that left to where you're going to see each team fighting
everything they have.
Yeah.
I'm going to pick a much broader score.
I think Cincinnati's going to want to run up the score to get themselves feeling good
about themselves.
Yeah.
You know what?
They do need to get right with somebody, but I'm going to stick with what I said.
I'm going Cincinnati 34, Cleveland 10.
Ooh.
Okay.
Big blowout.
I could see that happening too.
I mean, these games are like just pretty virtually every one of them are like they could be one
or the other very easily with just a couple of plays going wrong or right.
I'm realizing that in our previous show I mentioned Cleveland's going into a bye week
and that's wrong.
They're not.
Oh, okay.
Who is going in the bye week?
Just the Cowboys and the Bears.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So anyway, so I was criticizing Stefanski for picking Watson as the quarterback going
forward going into the bye week, but he's just going into a regular week, but still.
Make the change.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I don't see things getting any better for Cleveland.
Not as long as they have Watson out there on the field.
And also, I just don't think that there's enough of a culture there anyhow.
They're really like not really playing like they're very disinterested.
Yeah.
I think Cleveland fan is starting to remember the good old days when they had Baker Mayfield.
Yes.
I think you're right.
They're down there at Tampa looking in the window with a teardrop.
Fogging up the glass.
Yeah.
All right, this next game is going to be a classic from a classic matchup, I should say.
Three and two Philly at three and three Giants.
They've played each other a lot over here.
Yes, they have.
It's going to be a close game.
These are some of the original franchises for the NFL.
Okay.
Who's going to pull this one?
I think it's going to be a little bit higher scoring game than people think.
32-27.
I'm going to have to go the Eagles.
32-27.
Yep.
Okay.
I'm going to pick the Eagles as well.
I don't trust the Giants to put up a lot of offense.
You know we're going to suck at this.
We're all picking the same ones.
I've picked a couple of different.
At least two.
Okay.
Let's see, Philly's going to go 24 and Giants are going to get 13.
Sounds good.
Yeah.
All right, that's the last of the noon games.
Okay.
Three o'clock we start off with the two and four Las Vegas Raiders at the one and four
Los Angeles Rams.
Okay.
Something's got to give.
Yes, something's got to give.
Matthew Stafford is still the quarterback.
They still have a good defense.
That's enough to beat the Raiders.
Yeah, especially when they're playing at home.
I'm going to say probably in the line of 22-14.
Okay.
Again, picking the Rams because I'm not going to pick Vegas.
I don't blame you.
I can see Vegas putting up 13 and the Rams putting up 27.
So 27-13 Rams.
I like it.
Okay.
Next game is one and five Carolina at four and two Washington.
Okay.
Well, Washington and it's being played at Washington.
Jaden Daniels is going to probably have a really good game and I think that he's going
to probably have a couple of runs that are going to look phenomenal and a couple of long
passes look phenomenal.
So I'm going to pick him to be in the commander's speed Carolina Panthers 35-10.
I think it's going to be a what for constant.
Yeah.
You got Andy Dalton on his at least second, maybe third team.
Yeah, Red Rocket.
And you got the young hotshot for the commanders.
So there's going to be an element there that it's at least going to be promoted even if
it isn't a real element.
I think the commanders thought they should have won the game last week.
Yeah, true.
I'm also going to pick the commanders.
21-10.
We both think it's going to be a pretty decisive win.
Yeah, a two score game at the least.
Yeah.
All right.
Next one's easy.
Five and oh Kansas City at three and three San Francisco.
I got to go Kansas City even though San Francisco and I think Kansas City is going to build
on what they did the week before last.
And that was having a stellar offensive performance.
San Francisco's got a good defense.
So we are going to have a few field goals.
But I'm still going to think it's enough to rack up 30 points.
I'm going to say 30 to 24 Kansas City.
Wow, I like that.
I'm going to go for a little more lower scaring game.
I think we're going to have at least three field goals for Kansas City and a couple of
touchdowns.
So that gives us 23 points.
I can see that very easily.
And I think San Francisco is going to rely so heavily on the passing game that the Chiefs
are just going to play that mostly.
And we're going to get some great plays on defense.
Okay.
I think San Francisco will be able to score 14.
I'm going 23-14 Kansas City.
I like that.
Okay.
The Chiefs have been playing close games all year.
So we both got it within a score.
Well, I'm nine points apart.
You're six points apart.
So you've got it within a score.
Yeah.
That's it for the day games.
Sunday night, two and four New York Jets at four and two Pittsburgh.
I'm going to enjoy that one.
Me too.
I'm going to go with the Jets.
Pittsburgh's playing well, but I think that Devontae Adams joining.
Oh, they'll get them in.
Yeah, they're going to get them in.
On a primetime game.
Yeah, they'll get them in.
I think that Rogers will find a way to connect him.
And I think Devontae Adams will have at least a touchdown.
I think that Aaron Rodgers is probably pretty pissed off right now.
Yeah.
He suffered a lot to not get a win.
He did, I know.
So I think he's going to make it up on this game.
And I'm going to say A-Rodge and Devontae are going to have 28 points.
And I'm going to say it's to the 24.
28, 24.
Man, that looks pretty realistic.
Yeah, I could just see A-Rodges and Devontae getting together and they're having their
honeymoon period right now.
Yeah.
It's going to be the best of the best, I think.
I'm going to go Pittsburgh.
I could see that happen too.
And I think it's going to go into overtime.
I hope so.
I'm going to go 24.
27 Pittsburgh in OT.
As much as I like winning.
I love that one right there.
I want to see it go into double overtime where they're just scrambling to get three points.
Yeah, yeah.
A couple of block field goals in overtime.
It's probably going to go most of the way through the 15-minute overtime quarter.
Because this is the regular season.
You play just one overtime period.
Yeah, yeah.
Regular season and that's it.
Yeah.
In the playoffs, you keep playing until.
Playoffs?
You have to keep playing until.
That's got to be a good drinking game for us.
San Francisco 49ers take note.
It's got to be a bit.
San Francisco 49ers take note.
In the playoffs, it's different.
You play until somebody scores.
So after that first period is out, no.
No, the game is not over.
Just letting you know.
Just saying.
Might want to read the rule book of the job that you're getting paid millions of dollars
to do.
Even though Hardman didn't know either.
No.
Which is good.
Yeah.
Because I don't think he clutched up.
Yeah.
So anyhow.
So my scenario for this game is Pittsburgh gets out to a lead.
New York battles back all game long and pushes it into overtime.
And then Pittsburgh tears their heart out with a field goal.
How did I go with San Francisco?
How did I parlay that to San Francisco now?
I don't know.
Oh the rules.
The rules.
Yeah.
Because the overtime rules.
Yeah.
Okay.
It made sense.
All right.
And we got two Monday night football games this week.
We do?
We do.
The first one.
How fucking weird.
I know.
Make up your mind.
I'm wondering if last week they didn't have a double one because of the baseball playoffs.
That's it.
I'm pretty sure that's it.
Because the NFL historically will shift its schedule around to accommodate the baseball
playoffs.
They always do.
So you can watch both.
They always do.
Rarely do they have games on at the same time.
There was the Monday night game where we had the Royals and the Chiefs virtually at the
same time.
And they did picture in picture for us which was nice.
That was nice.
Yeah.
But the funniest part was actually Joe Buck showing a little enthusiasm.
Yeah.
You know, Troy Aikman didn't get it but Troy, Joe Buck did because he's a baseball guy and
he grew up in St. Louis.
So when the Arrowhead crowd reacted, it means that we just won against the Yankees in Yankee
Stadium.
And he knew that.
Troy Aikman didn't catch the correlation.
And then you heard Joe Buck go, hey, that's because the Kansas City Royals just knocked
off.
And you could tell there was a little bit of excitement there.
Yeah.
When the camera cut to him on point, he was smiling and talking about Kansas City.
That was rare.
Like I said before, I like Joe Buck now because he knows he's just a lucky bastard, the name
of his book.
He knows this.
He grew up with his dad being a big baseball guy.
Yeah.
He used to follow in his shadows.
And he is funnier than hell.
I normally don't listen to Stern but I listened to it when he was on there.
And he is just a really funny guy and he doesn't take anything seriously.
He's not a Bob Kostas and has something up his ass.
Yeah.
You know?
And anyhow, we can go on.
All right.
The first Monday Night Football game, 4-2 Baltimore at 4-2 Tampa Bay.
I think Baltimore is going to continue their winning ways.
All right.
I think at Tampa Bay, it has been stopped and can be stopped.
But I think it's going to be rough and I think it's going to be probably a relatively high
scoring game.
I mean, I think pretty much the Ravens have had high scorers except for maybe the Chiefs
game the whole season.
Yeah.
That's true.
And it's going to be probably a 30-27 win by Baltimore.
All right.
I'll go with Tampa.
That feather is still in my throat.
Yeah, me too.
It's almost dry in this airport.
They keep the air really dry for some reason.
Well, it's really dry around Nashville for some reason.
They had that cold front come through and it's just like, you know, everyone's here
like bundled up like it's 10 below.
Let's see.
I'm going to go Tampa Bay.
I think Mr. Inconsistent Baker Mayfield is going to be on his game for the prime time
slot.
If he's on his game, it's hard to beat.
Yeah.
Close game.
I'm going to go 27-24.
No, that was right before.
30-27 Tampa Bay.
Sounds good.
Yeah.
I can see either one working.
It's funny.
I look over what I picked and there's a few big blowouts, but most of them I called pretty
close.
I know.
You have been.
I've been calling blowouts this time and you're saying, nah.
The Tennessee Buffalo, I've got a big difference.
Sinsey Cleveland, that's it so far.
Okay.
But now we have the last Monday Night Football game, the lactating Los Angeles Chargers,
three and two at the Arizona Cardinals snooze fest, two and four.
They couldn't have picked a more lackluster game for...
If you're going to have a second Monday night game, at least make it worth it.
Yeah.
It had to be a West Coast team because it's going to be the late game.
Yeah, it's going to be a late game.
They didn't... Yeah, they could have flexed Kansas City, San Francisco into that spot.
They would have been wise to do that, but they didn't.
So I'm going to have to go... Oh, geez.
I don't know.
You know, I'm going to go ahead and go with the Chargers, 17-10.
Nice.
You know, after watching Baltimore-Tampa Bay, I probably won't stick around for much of
the second game.
Me neither.
It better start off pretty damn interesting to keep up.
I'm actually going to pick Arizona.
I could see them winning.
I'm going to go 23-17.
Okay.
The Chargers, I don't know.
I haven't bought into them yet this season.
I don't blame you.
They win one and lose one.
Yeah.
You're probably right on that game, but I'm going to go ahead and stick with it.
Yeah.
Well, so we picked a few different.
Yeah.
It won't be so boring.
Yeah.
So we got enough to where they'll probably be a clear-cut winner.
I mean, I like this last one because I missed two, you missed four.
They're both well within a good region.
You know.
Yeah.
A respectful margin.
So hopefully this will be like that too.
Plus we don't worry about point spread.
So.
No.
We're just picking winners.
We just get it or not.
I have some bullet points if you want to.
I love the bullet points.
All right.
And then if we have enough time, we will go into some of the Madden Curse and some of
the people that were affected by the Madden Curse.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
So I always found that interesting.
Yeah.
Sometimes on it, sometimes you forgot and you're like, wow, I forgot about that guy
or this guy.
Yeah.
And they made it to the cover of the video game.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So anyhow, okay.
The first bullet point is what teams are most likely to make a playoff push?
Playoffs.
And because I say that now is because typically right now is when a team starts showing signs
of waking up.
Yeah.
Gosh.
Usually late October, early November, you start seeing teams showing their character.
Yeah.
Well, AFC, I think Pittsburgh is going to start being taken a lot more seriously.
That was one of mine.
Houston's going to go, I think on a run.
I think Houston's going to go on a really good run.
Yeah.
And gosh, who else do you pick in the AFC?
Baltimore, I guess.
Yeah.
Or Buffalo.
No, Buffalo would be a better choice because Buffalo has been struggling more than Baltimore,
I think.
Yeah.
And because of the schedule only, I'm going to say Cincinnati.
Yeah.
They're going to have to make a move.
I mean, because they-
Or write it off.
Let me see their schedule.
Go ahead and-
Okay.
Who I see making a good move would be Detroit's going to get it going.
Ooh, pixie dust.
Oh yeah.
Tampa Bay's going to get it going.
And Washington, I think they're going to start steamrolling and start deciding some of these
divisions.
I agree.
Yeah, I think so far I'm on board with you.
Okay, we have the Bengals and the Browns coming up, Eagles and Bengals next after that,
Raiders and Bengals, Bengals and Ravens, Bengals and Chargers, Steelers at Bengals.
You know what?
I take that back.
Bengals and Cowboys, Bengals and Titans.
I'm going to take that back.
I thought that was an easier schedule than what it was.
I don't know what I was looking at.
There's some tough teams on there and they're going to have to play really hard to make
it.
They're going to have to come back Cincinnati.
Yeah, since he's going to have to win all the games they're supposed to win and then
some ones they're not supposed to win.
I also think that Green Bay's going to make a push.
I left Kansas City and Minnesota out because we already are making the case.
I think we're pretty much the same on this.
Okay, the next one, Tyreek Hill started rumors with posting Mahomes pictures of him in the
KC Jersey.
He pictured the Mahomes pictures with him and them in the KC Jersey when they were teammates.
He was posting video footage of them playing together.
He made references saying the greatest player ever.
Okay, only to squelch a rumor when he was asked.
I know the answer, but I'm asking you, why?
Gosh.
The only thing I can think of to motivate him was that he thinks he's going to get traded
to the Chiefs somehow.
Or like a last second sign him from the Dolphins when they make a playoff push or something
like that.
I don't know.
There have to be certain regulations to fit that.
I remember how he talked bad about Mahomes and talked up his new quarterback.
He's just looking like a hypocrite who's in it for whatever is good for him and he's going
to bandwagon on anything that gives him a chance.
I agree.
I think that he did that to get the idea to the Chiefs.
Then when he found out it was a solid no, then he had to do something.
He said, I know, I'm not getting traded there.
That makes a lot of sense.
He was trying to see if there was any interest.
It's kind of like hanging out with your ex-girlfriend and thinking there's something there.
Then as soon as you say it, you find out there's no interest.
You go, I was just kidding.
Exactly.
That's a good analogy.
We're the ex and he came over palling around with us and they're like, there's no way in
hell I'm getting back with you.
I was just joking.
I didn't like that.
He needs his stats.
This is a contract year.
He's got maybe a couple hundred yards.
Not a whole lot.
Huntley isn't throwing the ball to him.
The quarterbacks they've had as backups just are not throwers.
They can't find him open.
Tyreek's thing is to go flying down the field and you got to have a really accurate quarterback
to know exactly where to put that ball from to run under.
Hill's main weapon is not all that useful right now.
I think he did the old dangle to carrot and when they smacked it away, he said, I didn't
mean it anyhow.
There you go.
Side note for that, do you think Tyreek Hill is a lock for the Hall of Fame yet?
Not yet.
I don't think so either.
Not yet.
He's got to have another couple of two really good seasons.
He's not having one this year.
The Hall of Fame doesn't look back and go, well he didn't have a quarterback.
The Hall of Fame looks back and goes, well what happened here?
Was he injured?
No.
Well then that's inconsistent.
He may not get it.
I think the NFL Hall of Fame is going the way of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and
the people they elect aren't necessarily the most deserving.
It's the ones that are going to bring in the most visitors.
I agree.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has been doing that for years.
Whatever person or group is going to bring visitors, that's who we're electing.
That's who's going to get it.
It's like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden not being in there.
And Dolly Parton is.
Or Tone Locke or somebody.
Yeah.
And Axe clearly said, I'm not rock.
Why am I in it?
I mean even the Axe themselves are like, I don't know why I'm in it.
I think under that circumstance Tyreek Hill will make the Hall of Fame because they can
make a neat display and an eye catching display and it will attract visitors.
And he has one of Super Bowl with it's sheaves.
I think he'll make it but it's not going to be a sure shot.
No I don't think he's automatic.
And also they're going to show the 13 second.
That one was one of the ages.
Some of his catches and his runs.
I mean even with Alex Smith.
He'd do a five yard dunk and just take that thing down field.
What can you say?
He is one of the greatest receivers ever.
But his actions and where he's at right now aren't exactly complimentary to being in the
Hall of Fame.
So I think he'll get into it too like you but I don't think it's a slam dunk.
Not first ballot definitely.
Next one.
Should all NFL players be forced to wear white shoes?
The reason is disgruntled fans.
People are pissed off over this because it happened another couple of times.
And they're wearing black shoes.
I think that the easy way to do this is mandate white shoes.
That way if you're close you got the touchdown no one can argue.
Always wearing white shoes so we can't tell.
That would make a lot more sense than giving in to the black shoes and painting the sideline
black because then it blurs the line between green and black.
It's easier to see the line between green and white.
You got to keep the line the same so therefore they all wear white shoes and there's no more
of these people trying to make something out of nothing.
And that's it.
Yeah.
Just like alright everybody wears white shoes everybody shut up.
Yeah they call it a uniform for a reason.
Exactly.
They can make everyone wear the exact same thing.
They can do these other things.
They can definitely make them wear white shoes.
Yeah.
So.
Alright so we're both on.
Yeah.
Okay.
Alright this is something I found out a couple of weeks ago and I've been under the I put
this under my hat because I want this question.
NFL made Al Michaels the voice of Thursday Night Football.
Did you know that?
Yeah.
You did know that?
I didn't know that.
Oh officially you mean?
Yeah they made him.
Oh okay.
They told him.
And the reason is quality control.
They wanted someone on Amazon to have the anchor position that is really really good.
Oh okay.
Yeah.
I see okay I was thinking something.
I thought you were talking about making his career.
No.
They forced him to go to Amazon.
He didn't do it on his own like I thought.
Yeah.
I thought he got tired of the flex games because he's 70 mid 70s.
Wow.
No that wasn't it.
They made him go to Amazon.
Yeah.
That reminds me of another thing about the international games.
Every team has to play a Thursday night game every season.
Roger Goodell wants every team to play an international game every season.
Yeah that's right.
Yeah.
So that means every week there would be a game overseas that would be at a different
time that you'd have to get up for or stay up late for.
I don't like that at all.
Yeah.
Okay whatever.
That's not up to us is it?
No it isn't.
Should baseball do the same thing?
Bob Costas was an embarrassment this year.
It's the smart play.
Yeah.
I think that baseball needs more reign over the things that goes on and I think football
should be the template of what baseball should strive for including their contract agreements
and their revenue sharing but that'll never happen.
Baseball's kind of built itself on respecting tradition and keeping the old ways as long
as possible and keeping announcers until they're like 115 years old etc.
It's smarter to move them out when someone else can draw a bigger audience.
Locally.
Denny Matthews.
Legend.
He's 80 something.
His denture slip is so bad you can't hardly understand him.
I love the guy.
Kind of like reminds me of Walt Bodine on his radio show.
Oh my god.
And his lip smacking.
Oh my gosh.
I'm just sitting there cringing every time I heard him.
Went down to Minsky.
At that point he just didn't give a shit anymore.
No, no, no.
Denny Matthews is trying.
He still has a quick wit.
He has a sound mind.
He makes sense with everything that he says.
He interrupts a little bit more but that's because he can't hear as well.
But it's time for him to go.
They could make him a sideline reporter or something.
He's up in the booth but he only chimes in at certain times.
And you go, yeah that was one of the better catches I've seen out of so and so.
It clearly shows that he is done.
Lenny Dawson knew when to step aside as the color commentator.
The game was getting to be something he didn't really recognize all that much.
It was changing really fast and he frankly seemed like he didn't like a lot of the rule
changes.
And he kind of alluded to that too and he knew to take a step back.
Maybe not get out of it but at least go to a different role.
I would agree.
I think that baseball needs to do something about that.
Not only what Costas but other people do.
And don't get me wrong.
Costas is a legend.
Costas has done a lot of great things.
Very intelligent guy.
I've never really liked his style.
He's a little boring for me.
Little too manufactured.
Not enough emotion.
But I cannot deny his overwhelming talent.
But I think it's time for him to get out of there.
He obviously just doesn't have that passion.
He never was the most emotional person.
He did okay.
Didn't he do Olympics every now and then?
He was great on the Olympics because it's a little more low key.
His knowledge too.
His knowledge base was great on the Olympics.
He knew a lot of stuff that people didn't know.
So yeah okay.
Next one is really intriguing because I don't know.
Will Bill Belichick ever get another head coaching job in the NFL?
I'll say no.
I'm going to say no too.
I think the game has passed him up so much they don't want it.
They don't want that kind of thought.
They don't want that kind of push.
They don't want that kind of stagnant I guess.
Yeah he's always been Mr. Slow and plodding.
If you're going to bring him in you want somebody with fire and passion and drive.
That's never been his thing.
No you've got the guy running down the field screaming yeah!
I always refer to this.
This is Apollo Creed teaching Rocky how to fight Mr. T. I forgot what it was.
Clubber Lang.
When he's doing Rocky's in there fighting and they kept panning to Apollo and he's doing
the same hits as Rocky because he taught him.
He's like doing a right hook, a left hook and he's got the same look on his face.
This is a coach that you need in the NFL.
You want a guy going over there twisting with the ball.
Like going, shifting to the left.
He's doing the same thing.
He can't contain himself.
Yes.
He's doing what he taught the people because he's got that much enthusiasm.
Bill Belichick is not that guy.
Should be respected, should go down as one of the greatest ever.
Yes.
And maybe as a cheat too.
I'll let you decide.
A big part of Belichick's success was he had time to build that organization and then maintain
it.
But he didn't do it quickly.
No he didn't.
So if you're looking for a quick fix let's bring Belichick in.
And that's another thing too.
That's another thing is nobody wants to wait five years.
Nobody wants to wait even three years.
They want that guy right now to hit the ground running and get things established right off
the bat.
So yeah, Bill Belichick probably will never see another head coaching job.
And I'll look for him to be in the booth.
He's actually very quick witted.
The only time I've ever heard him, he was doing his monotone I'm barely awake shtick.
He came up with some answers about some stuff that I heard here not too long.
Not only like the Kelsey thing going hey I think that's his biggest catch ever and all
that stuff.
But he has said some stuff that was really tongue in cheek and wry and like wow that
came from him.
There's some personality there that we don't see.
I haven't seen it yet but I guess other people have.
Well the media used to piss him off.
So he would come up there and go yeah we played a decent game.
We got to get better at other things.
Yeah that's about all I got.
Because the media kept f**king with him and he was just like alright you want that then
you're going to get nothing.
And they hated it because he never gave them anything to.
Burn them once and that's all it takes.
And that's all it took.
Alright Robert Sala went down justified.
Rumors about a supposed Palestinian patch.
Too controversial.
NFL make an example.
All of those.
Just what you think.
Yeah it could be all of the above.
Makes me wonder.
With the addition of Aaron Rodgers telling the owner I don't like this guy anyway.
Well there was some of that.
There was some of that and they did prove that he did have a meeting with the owner.
And then right after that Sala was ousted.
He was having problems with Sala.
They were jabbering at each other so yes.
I think the spin is we told Aaron Rodgers before we announced it.
But instead I'm sure it was they asked Aaron Rodgers.
You said this I don't know how many podcasts ago.
That the owner was going to side with Rodgers.
And he did.
And I think that says everything.
You knew it.
You called it.
That's it.
I occasionally get them right.
No the writing was on the wall is what I'm saying.
You saw it and you're like that's it.
And you called it and that's what it is.
Aaron Rodgers was having difficulty and the owner was like hey what can I do.
And he goes well I think Sala's not getting what we want to do.
Maybe it's time to do something.
And the owner's like okay Aaron.
So Aaron's going to be back next year too.
Not a whole lot of people were impressed with the hire in the first place.
No I was one of them.
It was kind of weird.
It was like huh?
I wasn't impressed that I was and then I went back to not being.
He showed some grit last year when Rodgers went down.
He had a mental toughness about him that was really good.
But then later on in the season some of that wore off and I can't really describe a pinpoint
of when it happened.
Yeah it's like he just got so tired of maintaining everything.
Yeah he didn't look the same as posture.
Everything.
At the end of the season was just worn out.
So yeah okay.
Next one.
Aaron Rodgers.
Will he finish the season or will he be going down in flames being hurt again?
I'm going to say he's going to finish the season.
I'm going to say he is too but he's going to get hurt somewhere in between there.
But it won't be more than like a game.
Yeah yeah.
I was going to make that stipulation.
I'm not saying he's going to play every down or maybe miss a game or so.
But I don't think he's going to be out for the season at any point.
I think as far as the Jets go he's going to be there as the starter.
I agree.
He's not going to lose another season because he doesn't have that many.
So he doesn't have that many left.
Father time.
That's the way it is.
Not anybody.
Let me think of the percentage here.
I'm going somewhere with this.
45 is what Tom Brady played to.
What would you think the quarterback percentage of them playing to 45 is?
There's been a couple others.
Wow.
Less than.
Less than 5%.
Oh if not less than that.
Yeah.
Maybe one or two.
Maybe one or two out of how many quarterbacks there's ever been.
Gosh.
About the longest lasting quarterback I can think of was George Blanda.
Yeah.
He finished his career.
48.
Something like that.
Yeah.
But in the last few years he was the place kicker.
Yeah.
Yes.
That's a good point right there.
He was a raider.
Yeah.
A-Rodge is not going to be a place kicker.
No.
He's not going to make it to 45 either.
No.
He looks in great shape but I don't think he's in Tom Brady's shape.
There were a couple of points during the broadcast where he had his helmet off on the sideline
and he kind of let his face relax and you could see his age and all the years and all
the hits.
I mean he looks like a beat up old warrior.
Yeah.
I think his body is going to give out before his drive does.
Yeah.
Which I would have thought was the opposite last year.
I thought yeah this guy is just going to take the money and run.
I guess not.
No.
I agree.
Excuse me I think his body will fail him if he plays next year.
He'll leave next year.
I think next year it's going to be a decisive that's it.
Yeah.
Whether he's spending it in traction or not is a different story but I think next year
is going to be the tale of the tale.
Yeah.
They're going to go in there and something's going to happen and he's going to go okay.
If I finish this season that is definitely it.
And pile on to that I think this season or next season Kelsey will retire.
Oh without a doubt.
Yeah.
Kelsey is looking even higher than Jason Kelsey and look at Jason Kelsey.
He's on every ad.
He's everywhere.
Yes he is.
He's doing pre and post game shows and he's doing commercials for everything under the
sun.
He's a very lovable guy.
He's got that teddy bear look doesn't he?
Yeah.
He's a good guy.
He's a nice guy.
He's got that kind of look.
Yeah.
He looks like the guy off the Duluth commercials.
Yes.
He does.
Yeah.
Just put a cap on him and it's him.
Yeah.
And then he's got his fucking underwear and a vice.
And an angry beaver is biting at him.
Yeah.
Yes.
I agree.
I don't know if that.
So I just wanted to pile on the Kelsey thing.
No.
I agree with that because number one Kelsey has been alluding to this for quite a while.
He fills every hit.
He's got something going on with Taylor Swift and I do think that they're not the type to
just settle for what they have.
I think they're going to want a family with children.
Although they're not saying this, it kind of looks like their type of relationship just
isn't a hey we're a couple of stars and we're going to.
It looks to me more based in we really do love each other.
And I think there's absolutely no way pregnancy and motherhood would harm Taylor Swift's career.
Not in any way.
No.
Even if she had to take like a year off from touring or public appearances.
She'd be bigger.
Yeah.
Her fans would be waiting eagerly for her return.
So I agree.
Professionally there's I think there's zero downside to starting a family.
And I think that Travis Kelsey is a savvy enough guy to know that he wants to walk his
granddaughter down the aisle.
And the only way to do that is to not play football until you're 45.
Yeah.
Have a brain and the ability to walk left when you're done playing.
Yes.
And I think that he's that type of guy too.
I think he's like you know what I want to walk my granddaughter down the aisle.
So I'm going to preserve myself.
I could go for more rings but I'm not going to because I know that there's another life
besides football.
Yeah.
I am seeing a lot more of his car washes going up.
Yeah.
Me too.
Club.
Is it club car wash?
Club car wash.
Yeah.
It's club.
Yeah.
He is obviously a pretty good businessman as well.
Their podcast.
Oh hey Taylor Swift probably hooked him up with her business manager because whoever
is her business manager is brilliant.
I bet you she did.
Yeah.
You know that guy like Travis Kelsey.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Bring him in.
Yeah.
You talk about a guy that has cell value.
He really does.
He's a nice guy.
He's a friendly guy.
And he got over that bratty, snotty misbehavior when he was younger and earlier in his career.
Yeah.
There was some question when they drafted him.
I don't know.
He's kind of a loose cannon.
He drew some 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties didn't he?
Oh yes he did.
He did in the pros too.
Remember the famous when he grabbed the flag and threw it on himself?
I got to admit that was funny though.
Yeah.
It's kind of like here.
Fuck it.
Remember when Dale Carter picked it up and threw it in the stands?
Yes.
That was one of my favorite Dale Carter moments.
He said this is what I think of your flag.
I think he thought about wiping it on his ass first but he just threw it.
I think he thought about doing it.
Then he looked at Marty and said maybe I better not.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Marty Booth.
Marty Booth is pretty loud.
Dale Carter actually played until fairly recently.
He had a long career.
Yeah.
He didn't play here.
No.
He went.
Was he in Atlanta?
I remember him I think with the Saints.
Was it the Saints?
He went to the Rams first I think.
Yeah.
That's right.
It was in Atlanta.
It was the Rams.
Then I think he finished with the Saints.
He had a long career.
He did.
He was very good around here.
He wasn't quite so good at the other teams.
Yeah.
I remember when he did that and I thought it was pretty funny too.
Okay.
The final bullet point is this right here.
Should there be a new rule?
If your team scores three points or under, you get your money back.
I like that rule.
I love that.
Oh yeah.
I think a lot of fans would really like to see that rule.
I would love that.
Could you imagine?
Imagine the betting line on that too.
Oh you know that brings up the yeah because then everybody would bet that every team is
going to get at least three points.
Yes.
It would ruin the gambling line.
Yeah.
Other than that it would be great but it's never going to happen because of the gambling
line.
Yeah.
As far as a bonus for the fans, I think that would be awesome.
I think that would be great.
If they did that, I think that the pro and con would be better pro because of the publicity
than the betting.
They'll still find other things to bet on.
That would be funny.
It would be like, hey, man, let's hope he misses this.
We get our money back.
That even goes to like DirecTV, their season pass or YouTube.
Even that you get a certain like I don't know three bucks back or something because it had
scored three points.
I had an idea for a rule change that would help with penalties.
There are a number of penalties where there's an automatic first down like defensive pass
interference on sportsman like or unnecessary roughness.
But imagine if the down in distance didn't change when you got a penalty.
You're on offense and it's third and two.
You touched on this before, didn't you?
I had one about the timeouts and delay of game.
Okay, go ahead.
This is like right now a team will line up on like fourth and two and try to draw the
other team off.
Under a new rule, if you do draw the other team off, you get the five yard penalty, but
it's still fourth and two.
So you don't get the first down just because you got yards.
If you get an automatic first down by rule, then you get it.
It works for the offense.
You hold and you play first down over, you back them up 10 yards, but it's still first
and 10.
You don't add that extra 10 yards on line to gain.
It's just you lose field position.
But down in distance doesn't change.
I like that a lot.
That would keep the dead play of someone running out and doing the hard count over and over
and over and over and over and over and then you call a timeout.
That would get rid of that because there's no upside to it.
You're not going to get a first down.
That's so annoying too because you're waiting, waiting, and then all of a sudden it's like,
oh, they're just trying to draw them off.
And also the percentage of that working anymore is just bullshit anyhow.
It's like, why even try?
Just go ahead, beat them the regular way.
Don't try to fool them or whatever.
But it will hurt people like Mahomes a little bit that has that hard count that's so believable.
Whenever that hard count's believable, it's almost irresistible.
You hear like, oh shit.
I mean, it's so irresistible.
We get false starts because of it.
Yes, absolutely.
And that would be the downside is you'd lose play like that, but then you'd also get rid
of the play where it's just a dry hump waiting for a play that never is going to start anyway.
I would forego plays like that to get rid of the dry hump.
I get so tired of it.
Like I told you, my cousin is down yesterday from Canada.
He started getting into football, American football, because of the Chiefs.
He's got a connection here and the Chiefs have been playing lately a lot in it.
So he's been watching too.
Normally he doesn't.
And he says, I keep losing concentration because I keep going to commercial.
And I'm like, you know what?
I get it.
If I didn't already have all this time invested in it, I'd be like, oh, fuck this and leave
too.
The reason why so many people really don't pay attention is because unless you really
know the game in and out, you do kind of forget what's going on.
It doesn't help that the camera angle was always so tight.
You can rarely tell where you are on the field.
I know.
Yeah.
That's another thing too that they really got to work on, in my opinion.
I mean, I know Jake from State Farm more than I know most quarterbacks.
Yes.
So what does that say about that right there?
I know.
Yeah.
So anyhow.
Oh, a star in the making is Andy Reid on his commercials.
He is just, he's a natural.
No.
Wow.
You hear the new one where he's making all those noises and all that shit?
No, I haven't seen that one.
When you see it, you'll see what I mean.
You think he's got a career in movies after football?
Possibly.
I could see him playing himself in a few movies.
I could too.
Yeah.
I could too.
The only thing I want is I want a head coach to go out in the middle of the field and take
a dump.
Okay.
Take a dump in the middle of the field.
Walk over.
The slowest person here is sticking their nose in that.
And walk off.
Oh, Bobby Knight did something similar.
Remember him?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was a basketball coach at Indiana.
Didn't he pass away?
Was it Indiana?
Indiana, yeah.
Yeah.
I think he did pass away.
The Hoosiers, yeah.
The team.
The season on the brink is about.
Anyhow, go ahead.
The team did poorly.
And he had him in the locker room.
And he went in the bathroom and wiped a bunch of crap out of his ass on some toilet paper.
And then went around and shoved it in the players' faces and saying, this is what you
played like today.
And at that point, a lot of parents stepped in and said, this is my child.
You're not going to do that to my child.
You know what?
Rarely do I like parents to get involved in stuff like that.
You got to let the coach coach.
Kind of deserved that one.
Yeah.
That is bullshit.
Yeah.
And he would throw folding chairs and actually hit people with them.
Yes, he would.
Yeah.
He was a real bad hothead.
Yeah.
And then he went to Texas and really didn't do that much.
Bobby Knight, he had a lot of success at first with that.
Ooh.
Wow.
There go the alarm bells.
Hang on.
Oh, hang on.
OK.
So I got this Madden Curse still.
We can do a couple of them and then we'll do more later.
OK.
These are the Madden Curse is if you were on the John Madden game, the football game,
if you were on the cover of it, something usually happened like you break your leg or
you just suck the next year or something.
And it was called the Madden Curse.
Well, here are some of the glaring examples.
We're not going to do all of them because we got to be getting off here pretty soon.
Yeah, airplanes finally going to be ready soon.
We're going to get on board.
Yeah, I couldn't believe that.
But I'm glad they called you.
Yeah.
I mean, normally they just send you a text.
Yeah.
That must be.
I think I've got some weird setting on my phone.
It rang my ringer instead of the text sound.
Yeah.
Well, they didn't text me at all, the fuckers.
Oh, well.
They didn't care if I got on there.
They just cared if you did.
Or you're the smart one to put your phone on silent.
I guess so.
But anyhow, we're going to be boarding here in about 15 minutes.
So we're going to wrap this up.
Enough time to pack.
Yeah.
All right.
The first one that was the Madden game came out roughly about 98, 99.
OK, so the first guy that was a victim was right off the bat.
Yeah.
And that was Garrison Hurst.
Oh.
He was mad in 1999.
He had a bad injury.
Yeah, he did.
Hurst was on the international edition of Madden and suffered a gruesome broken ankle
in the playoffs versus the Falcons.
I remember that.
It was sideways.
Yes.
Oh, it was nasty.
Yeah.
It was nearly an amputation.
Almost.
Yeah.
On the field.
Oh.
So that was when they started realizing that there might be something there.
Yeah.
Up until that point, Madden was on the cover of Madden football.
Yes.
Yep.
They realized, eh, nobody wants to look at him anymore.
Let's put some players.
They started putting players on him.
Yeah.
And with his crazy eyebrows.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, they looked like they were just going to walk off on the road.
Yes.
Very vigorous caterpillars.
Yes.
The next one is right at 2000 is Barry Sanders.
Oh.
I know what you're thinking.
Barry Sanders never got injured.
All right.
Sanders was on the cover alongside John Madden in 2000 as he unexpectedly retired prior to
the start of the 1999 season.
Yeah.
So he was on the cover and wasn't even playing.
He was also on the cover of a different football game put out by a different, I think it was
Front Page Sports for computer.
Yeah, yeah.
Or AE.
No, it was Front Page.
AE didn't have one.
And there was one called XOR.
XOR.
Yeah.
Front Page had him on there.
Yeah.
Front Page didn't have a curse.
No.
Because he did fine.
No, he did fine.
Yep.
Until Madden put him on.
Yeah.
And then he promptly retired because he didn't want to break his ankle.
Yeah.
The next one was 2001.
They're not wasting any time, are they?
Eddie George was on the cover of 2001, famous running back for Tennessee.
Yep.
Was it?
Okay.
George enjoyed a very successful season skirting by the Madden curse.
Yeah.
All right.
I don't know why they put that in there.
I should have read it before.
Yeah.
So anyhow.
Good job, Eddie George.
He did get injured a couple of times and I thought that that's what it was, but I guess
not.
Dante Culpepper.
Mm-hmm.
2002.
Culpepper is coming off an excellent 2001 season, but suffered a season-ending knee
injury late in the year.
Ah.
Yep.
I remember that.
2003 is the next one.
It's Marshall Falk.
Oh, wow.
That's right.
Yep.
Marshall Victor Falk.
No, that is the middle name one, Victor.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Barnabas.
That's it.
Marshall Barnabas Falk.
Or Meet the Falkers.
Yeah.
Yeah, there we go.
Madden 2003.
Falk suffered an ankle injury that shelved him for a pair of games in the 2001 season
that would be the last year that Falk would rush for over a thousand yards.
Mm-hmm.
So that probably can be attributed to him not being so successful.
Yeah.
2004, Michael Vick.
Oh.
Yeah.
Vick suffered, and I did not feel too bad about this because we've talked about this
before.
Yeah.
He has a right to make a living, but I have a right to hate that person with a passion
the rest of my life, and I do.
I'm an animal lover, and I hate people that can do this, and I'll never like him.
No.
Although I respect his right as a human being and to live.
Yep.
He suffered a fractured fibula during the preseason, missing 11 games in 2003, and I
enjoyed every second of it.
And I'm not embarrassed to say it.
No.
And I know you feel the same way.
Any time he spends away from football is good.
Yeah.
And any time he's in pain is good, too.
Yeah.
He's caused a lot of pain.
Yeah.
If you don't know what we're referring to, read it.
Read what he actually did.
And all the things he said to justify what he did.
Yeah.
Oh, that's, yeah.
Yeah.
That's as egregious as what he did.
Yeah.
Zero remorse.
None.
Ray Lewis, Madden, 2005.
Yeah.
Yeah, mister.
I was there, but didn't do it.
Yep.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Okay, Lewis.
Now he's a Reverend.
He's going to take what's his name's, oh, who's that guy down in Texas I was making fun
of?
Tilton.
Hey, it's the new Robert Tilton.
I want to give one dollar.
I want to give five dollars.
You got to give one thousand dollars because God needs to know you're serious.
He doesn't know you're serious.
Or I'm going to kill you on Super Bowl weekend.
Yes.
His face changes whenever he said that, too.
Well, it's when the demon possesses it.
Yes.
Yeah.
The demon's just back there smoking a cigarette until he does that.
Yeah.
Oh, it's Showtime, hang on.
Ray Lewis, 2005.
Lewis Shepard suffered a broken wrist that forced him to sit out the final game of the
2004 season.
It would be the first time he would have to miss time since 2002 when he killed.
No.
Allegedly no.
Okay.
Donovan McNabb, 2006.
McNabb injured his groin during week 10 matchup with the Cowboys and was placed on season
ending IR later that week.
Yep.
All right.
McNabb in between chunky soup commercials.
That's right.
I remember that.
He was obviously faking eating it.
Yes.
You could tell.
My man's like, dude, you have nothing in your mouth.
I can tell.
So, anyhow.
Yep.
Next one, Sean Alexander, whoever the fuck that is.
No, he.
Well, I think it was Running Back.
He was.
He didn't have a very long career.
No.
For Seattle, maybe?
Yeah.
Anyhow.
He was in foot in week three, but would return later in the season.
Next one.
You'll remember this name.
Vince Young.
Ooh, yeah.
Man, 2008.
Young missed a game after dealing with a quad entry, which would be the only game he would
miss that season.
Next one.
Mad Curse, isn't it?
Yes, it is.
I mean, some of them aren't as bad as others.
Yeah.
You view them all being like either season or career ending.
Not all of them were.
They were little pain in the ass stuff.
But they attributed it to the Madden Curse.
Brett Favreau.
Madden 2009.
Favreau was retired when he was named the cover athlete for the game, which was funny,
wasn't it?
Mm-hmm.
Returned to play for the Jets in 09.
While he wouldn't miss a game, he would suffer an injured bicep tendon and the Jets would
finish the season one and four.
And he also had some rather embarrassing pictures come out.
Yes, he did.
Yeah, evidently he did not do any weight lifting on his penis.
They call him extremely fair size.
Favreau.
Larry Fitzgerald and Troy Palamadou.
You know the little guy that hangs out in Scouts?
Oh yeah, the little tiny hair guy.
Yeah, tiny Troy.
Yeah.
Yeah, that Mahomes talks to.
Yeah, yeah.
Larry Fitzgerald and Troy Palamadou, Madden 2010.
Both Steelers.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They stole a lot.
Mm.
Yeah.
But yeah, both Steelers.
And, and of course, tiny Troy.
Who can forget tiny Troy?
He's awesome.
Yeah.
He hangs out in Scouts and he makes sure they don't have dandruff.
Yep, or lice.
Yeah, or lice.
What a great guy.
That battle with that one lice, so oh, you got little Harry.
Yeah, Harry.
Those are mean little bastards.
The first game to feature multiple cover stars means double the chance someone will get hurt.
Palamadou missed time while dealing with a career threatening knee injury, while Fitzgerald
dealt with injuries to his knee and elbow, but would miss no time.
And that was Fitzgerald when he was with the Cardinals.
He was a receiver, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, he didn't have such a good season because of the injuries.
But I think it was a year after they played the Steelers in the Super Bowl, wasn't it?
Yeah I think so.
Yeah, Madden usually waits until you have a good year, then they put you on the cover.
Yeah I think that was it.
Anyhow.
Okay, all right.
Drew Brees, Madden 2011.
Brees would avoid injury in 2011, helping lead the Saints to the playoffs.
Okay, they would though lose to the 79 Seahawks in the wild card round in a major upset, so
I guess that's part of the Madden Curse.
So, anyhow.
Peyton Hillis, Madden 2012.
Hillis was voted to cover athlete by fans and that turned out to be something of a mistake.
He dealt with hamstring issues twice during the season and sat on a game with strep throat.
Boy, the Madden Curse got him good, didn't it?
I don't even remember him.
I don't either.
Peyton Hillis, running back?
Could be a running back, could be a quarterback.
Running back makes more sense.
I think he is running back, but let's find out here.
And did he play for New Orleans?
I'm thinking Cleveland.
Cleveland, that could be.
Peyton Hillis.
No.
There's some place around here called Hillis.
It's a restaurant.
Peyton Hillis.
Denver Broncos and Cleveland Browns.
Here's a running back.
You're right, he did play for Cleveland.
Okay.
Remember the name Calvin Johnson?
Oh yeah.
The receiver, I believe, right?
Really good one.
The Madden, 2013, the Lions wide receiver avoided the Curse, putting together one of
the greatest receiving seasons in NFL history in 2012, catching 122 passes, 1,964 yards
and five touchdowns.
He almost had 2,000 yards in the air.
Man.
Shit.
That would probably be some quarterbacks half of their reception.
Yeah, no kidding.
I mean, 4,000 yards is no slouch back there in 16 game season.
Yeah, true, true.
Yeah, imagine half your passing yards going to one receiver.
One guy, yeah.
Wow.
Next one, and this is a famous one, Adrian Peterson.
Oh, I remember him.
I think he took a belt to his children right after, didn't he?
Look it up.
Man.
That wrecked his career.
Madden 25, I guess that's the whatever.
The 25th anniversary, it was Madden 25.
Now, okay, thank you.
That's what it meant.
Peterson suffered a foot sprain in week 16 and also dealt with a groin injury that same
season.
He would miss two games and undergo surgery following the season.
And then word got out that he used a belt to punish his children and then he doubled
down on justifying it, which was a mistake.
And beat him even worse.
He brought up pictures of their welted ass.
No.
What he should have done was, oh my God, what was I thinking?
And then just keep doing it in private.
Yeah, yeah.
And then he said, no, he said, no, I do this and fuck you all.
Yeah.
So anyhow, next one, Richard Sherman.
I mean, who didn't get the belt when they were a child?
I mean, I know enough people our age.
They're like, hell yeah, that was like the worst of the worst.
That was capital.
You know, that was like you did the ultimate sin.
You know, like maybe you like hard time, man.
Yeah.
It was like maybe smacking at your mom or something.
One of the worst things you could do, you know, were like telling the authorities to
go fuck themselves or something.
It was like that.
That was the belt.
Yeah.
And that's when I'd hide in my room and I'd look out the door or not the door, but the
window.
My room was upstairs.
I look out the window and I would try to judge the look on my dad's face to find out how
bad I was going to get murdered.
Yeah.
And I'd be like, oh shit, it looks like the boss punked him all day.
Oh man, this is it.
This is it.
God, I'm sorry.
I'm coming to meet you.
I'm coming home.
So yeah, yeah.
And then you'd hear that.
What?
Yeah.
Oh, she told that bitch.
Oh my God.
And then you hear that dangle.
They've been taking off the belt.
You're like, ah.
Okay.
So anyhow, I just ruined a lot of people right there.
Yeah, I think so.
You caused a lot of PTSD.
Yes, I did.
Richard Sherman mad in 2015 the Seahawks defensive back played an all 16.
Well, who gives a fuck then?
Yeah.
All right.
Odell Beckham Jr.
I'm just not going to waste time with it.
Unless it's horrible news, I'm going on.
Yeah.
Odell Beckham Jr. mad in 2016 Beckham.
Is he retired now?
I don't think so.
He plays for somebody.
I think he's just either, either plays for somebody or he's waiting to get signed by
somebody.
I can't remember which.
I'll look it up later.
Yeah.
There's our other receiver.
Yeah.
Yeah, right there.
Beckham would deal with a couple of lingering hamstring issues, but he was given a one game
suspension late in the season after an altercation with Panthers heel.
Josh Norman.
They called him a heel, Panthers heel.
So was he like a bad guy or a malcontent or something?
That's weird.
Heel.
Yeah.
That's the phrasing they use.
H E E L.
I guess he was a bad guy.
Okay.
I mean, that would be a heel.
Maybe that's why he got in the altercation with them is because they were mouthing off
to each other.
Probably.
Uh, everyone remembers, uh, Rob Gronkowski.
Gronk.
Gronky bonk.
2017.
Gronkowski played in eight games in 2016, starting just six games and he was dealing
with three separate injuries.
He suffered a hamstring injury that forced him to sit out a few games, a pulmonary contusion.
I remember that.
And a back injury that required season and then surgery.
Yeah.
He had a horrible season.
And then there's Tom Brady, 2018.
I remember this.
Um, Oh no, that would have been 2010.
He went on the cover.
That's when, uh, he got his ACL tour accidentally by the chiefs player, first game of the season.
Oh yeah.
And Matt Castle came in.
So, uh, anyhow, we, uh, have to wrap this up because we've got to board our plane right
now.
Alrighty.
We will talk to you fuckers later.
Bye bye.
Bye.
Do you wonder what these two dollars look like?
Yeah, me neither.
Did we really sit there and listen to all that garbage that was being, do you actually
believe one inch of it?
I didn't think so.
Hang on game over.