From the deep inside the bowels of the city market in Kansas City, Missouri downtown property
to the banks of the beautiful crystal blue waters of the Missouri River
it is the original two, Topher and Mark, given the 2024 football predictions for the season.
You thought they were done, didn't you?
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Harambe died because some idiot could not watch their children properly while they were on the phone.
They shot him, senselessly murdered. Harambe does not talk sports anymore. Sorry Harambe.
2, 3, 4. Alright. Alright. Alright. Gotta start it up. We're gonna go ahead and just go with this.
Okay. And then we'll just pause when I go get the coffees.
Sounds good. Okay.
Thank goodness I remembered to bring my readers. I remember a couple times I didn't bring my readers. Man, that was not easy.
Mine are out in the car. We'll see if I need them.
I brought a pen that actually works.
Oh good. Good, good, good.
Alright. Let me know when you're ready.
What did I hear the other day?
Oh yeah. I was watching Joel Osteen of All Things.
Uh huh.
Where I heard this. Animal sacrifice in the Bible.
Isn't that weird?
Yeah. Yeah.
There's apparently a circumstance where Abraham was, I mean you heard about Job who went through all the trials,
but Abraham was told to kill his son to see if he could do it.
And at the last minute he was spared from having to do that and God sent some sheep up the mountain
and Abraham sacrificed one of the rams instead.
And he was kind of hungry.
Yeah, I guess so. But it struck me as like, wow, animal sacrifice to the Christian God.
No, I know.
In the Bible. And everything was okay about it.
How about the people that go by the original first testament?
Uh huh.
That thing. Oh man.
Yeah, people would be very surprised to learn what's actually in the Bible,
but it's much more convenient to really not know, but point to it and say, well the Bible says.
Modern religion wants to bring people in and give money.
Yeah. Yeah.
So there you go.
I mean it's just like NPR, all of their programming is to appeal to the people who will give money.
And then you've got these big mega churches, everything they tell you is designed to appeal to the people who will give money.
Yeah, that's true.
There's not truth there, it's all pandering.
Yeah, all of it. I mean we were talking about Robert Tilton earlier.
What a crown that was.
I remember, I'm pretty sure this is Tilton if not then allegedly, word on the street, whatever.
So I was watching it one night, just out of sheer nothing to do and I'm like my God, people believe this guy?
Yeah.
And he looks right at the camera and he's already, he looks like a demon anyhow.
Oh he does.
And his face changes and he goes, I don't want you to give one dollar.
I don't want you to give two dollars. I don't want you to give ten dollars.
I want you to give a thousand dollars.
Why do I want you to give a thousand dollars? Because that tells the Lord you love him.
And I'm like what the hell? I know people believe this.
There are a lot of damaged people out there.
Yeah, and people looking for something.
Yeah, just give them a little bit that appeals to how they see the world and they'll follow.
Yeah, I'm still amazed that people believe it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean.
Yeah, it's, you see something so transparent and so obvious.
I want their mailing list.
Yeah, don't you want their mailing list?
Yeah, I want to figure out how these people who are sending in the thousand dollars got that money in the first place.
I'll sell you this piece of paper for five thousand dollars.
Oh, oh, oh, hang on, hang on. Tofer.
Yep.
I just got an announcement from the NFL.
Oh, OK.
The 2024 Super Bowl is going to be preempted by World War III.
Oh, OK.
Yeah, but it says this right here.
It says, don't worry, we'll have regular program and restored within two hours.
So thank you, NFL. Thank you for that.
So, all right, then NFL got really weird again, didn't it?
Yeah, it kind of did.
Yeah, kind of like our recording. OK, you got it fixed.
Yeah, there's some popped up.
I hope that little that little sound didn't come through on the recording.
It shouldn't.
You know what? It's free.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're getting their money's worth.
Yeah.
Well, all right.
We witnessed our number one as it, you know, this is here in Kansas City.
We witnessed our number one wide out.
Probably have seen the season and the injury.
Sure looks like it.
Yeah.
According to the statistics of OK, how they analyze games is we are a run first offense now.
Wow.
Yeah. So if you're a run first offense, is that wide out is as important or less important?
I think it's as important, if not more.
Yeah, because you still need if you have no passing game, then your running game is not going to work.
Yes.
So each each side of that has to complement the other. Definitely.
So if Travis Kelsey is being a decoy, now he can't be?
No, I wouldn't think so.
He would have to be in the real game situation.
Yeah.
OK. I'm going to say a couple of things here and I want your first reaction.
All right.
Should the Chiefs explore options for a trade for a couple of wide receivers?
I would say yeah. I think that's a smart idea.
Kudarius Tony.
No.
No. I agree.
No, no, no. Kudrapius Tony.
Sky Moore.
He's still on the team. He's just not doing all that well.
No, I think he's mainly a special teams guy and that's really that I think that's the only place they can nudge him in really.
Yeah. He's not panning out.
So if he's not doing it in practice, then he's not doing it on the field.
Yeah.
OK.
Buffalo gave up 35 points to the Ravens.
I know. After clobbering last week, they clobbered Jacksonville. My huge score was a 47 to 10 or something.
Yeah.
And then the Buffalo gets blown out.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Well, number one, Doug Peterson's toast.
You would think. Yeah.
Yeah.
Probably by Halloween.
Unless he can argue I did not draft Trevor Lawrence, I have nothing to do with him.
But anyhow, we'll see how that pans out.
But I think he's the first guy off the boat.
I think so.
I think they're going to view it like we gave you this number one draft pick and you can't do anything with him.
Well, we're going to find a guy that can.
Yeah.
So OK. So Buffalo was the gold standard defenses.
That kind of looks to me like the Chiefs just stepped up and went in there.
Yeah. I would say Chiefs are probably the elite defense right now, especially in the AFC.
Let's judge both games.
OK.
OK. All right. The Chiefs gave up what, 20 then? Or was it 17?
It were.
It was somewhere in that line.
We only gave up two chargers. 10.
10.
Yeah.
Yeah. And they all came in the first 10 minutes.
Yeah.
Shut them down the rest of the game.
Shut them down.
So it kind of looks to me like our defense is much better than Buffalo.
I would say so.
Unless it was a really good game plan. But I don't think you game plan for 35 points, do you?
No.
Unless there's a bunch of mistakes, which there was, and they're just flat kicking their ass on the field.
Yeah. Yeah.
Could it be that Derrick Henry is getting better, you know, acclimated that type of an offense?
Yeah. Yeah.
It could be some of that.
Yeah. I imagine after running through that line in game situations, at a certain point you start remembering exactly how things go.
You know, OK, this lineman does this kind of thing. This guy's going to move here.
So he's picking up all those little subtle clues.
Yeah.
And just knowing how to run with that line ahead of him.
Yeah. So I think right now you can make a strong argument that Casey's defense is much better than Buffalo's.
Yeah.
So Vaughn Miller just disappeared in this one. Where was he?
Good question.
Yeah. He was everywhere the first games. The first three games you couldn't stop him. Does this mean he's a 35-year-old?
Yeah. They tend to fall off a cliff, don't they?
Yeah, 35 or 36, especially pass rushers, white outs.
I didn't. I'm trying to see if I had anything extra written down about Buffalo, but I don't.
OK. Buffalo is a threat, yes.
Oh, yeah.
But I think with the defense that we have, you can stifle a lot of that, like they did last year.
Yeah.
OK. I got another name for you, chiefswise.
OK.
CHE.
Clyde Edwards Full Lair.
Yeah. Should a Lair be promoted? Or you keep him where he is. I mean, wherever the fuck he is, whatever list he is. Should he come off of it?
Yeah. Last I heard he was on the non-football injury or physically un-able to perform.
He came out with that statement about traumatic PTSD or something like that.
Oh, OK.
Yeah, PTSD. He came out with that, but he never elaborated on what it was about.
Yeah.
And he just wasn't on the playing list anymore. He was taken off.
OK. So yeah, that could be a mental health issue.
Mm-hmm.
OK. Yeah, as far as I know, he's not really on the active roster. You never see him, you know, even on the sidelines.
I think at this point you don't even elevate him.
Yeah.
I think that maybe you keep him there for insurance reasons. I don't know. For him? Because you like the guy?
Yeah.
So they're not going to do him dirty and just say, hey, out of here, nothing?
Yeah. But player-wise, I would suggest they go elsewhere than him.
Yeah. Yeah, I do too.
OK. I seem to think that running backs were OK right now with Hunt and P...
Steel.
P. Ryan.
P. Ryan. P. Ryan and Steel. Now, Steel needs to...he needs to learn how to cover up the ball better.
Yeah.
This is what? Two or three fumbles in how many games?
Two in three games, I think.
Two in three games. OK. His problem is he's always trying to get that extra foot.
Yeah.
When he does that, it reminds me of Travis Kelsey when he tries to get that extra foot.
Yeah.
I think Travis learned, fall down when you need to. Don't give up the ball.
When you're fighting for those extra inches, you lose focus on how you're holding the ball and whether somebody's punching the ball out of your hands.
Yes.
It's easy to lose track of that.
Yeah. Number one, cover up the ball no matter how many. I don't care if you're taking a loss. Cover up the ball.
Yeah.
Don't give up the ball.
You can run another play, but if you lose the ball, then you're done.
Yeah. So, the alligator needs to learn that.
I think that he's got that toughness. I think he's got that edge.
Yeah.
I think his last name is appropriate, Steel.
Yeah.
So...
I think he's going to be fun to watch in bad weather games.
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
That's going to be great in a snow-ridden buffalo in January.
Yeah.
Just like Carson, you ready? Oh yeah. I've been waiting all year for this shit. Let me go.
You're wearing his alligator t-shirt under his uniform.
Yeah.
Okay. San Francisco. Are they doing the Tidy Bowl, man? Are they going straight down the shitter?
What did I write down about San Francisco somewhere in here? I guess I did. Damn.
I mean, they have a lot of people out.
San Francisco. Well, they won 30 to 13.
Uh-huh. But, they've been having some problems here.
I guess I'm not sure.
It's over Brandon Ayoub.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Now I know what you're getting at. Okay.
Yeah. Here it is right here. The Los Angeles Rams, week three win over the San Francisco 49ers, has come at a cost.
The organization has been fined $100,000 after 49ers. 49ers wide out, Brandon Ayoub was shoved on the Rams' sideline
on the final play of the Los Angeles 27-24 win. Specifically, cornerback Darion Kendrick and safety Carmen Kintchens were fined for their roles in this couple.
The Rams 49ers rivalry has intensified since the Rams moved from St. Louis to Los Angeles back in 2016.
The rivalry reached a new level in 2021 when the Rams edged the visiting 49ers in this year's NFC Championship game.
Yeah.
This is the second time in as many days that Ayoub has found himself in the middle of a news story.
On Friday, a video went viral. Ayoub went throwing a tantrum at practice after the 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan asked him to change to the proper shorts.
Wow.
His level of conditioning has been in question too, after he held out during the entirety of training camp.
Yeah.
So, he had that going on. He had a couple other minor scuffles. And then now he has this, where he's, where he's, he had another little scuffle going on.
And he's at odds with his own team. Again, they just, they just resigned him for a shitload of money.
That's what I was going to ask you, am I wrong? Didn't he just get paid what he wanted to get paid and he still got this crap attitude?
Yeah. So, I think that they really, they screwed the pooch. And here's why. They just signed him to such a huge contract, nobody's going to want him.
Yeah.
This guy seems like a malcontent. I don't want him.
There's, there's a time where you do the, the, the sign and trade thing. You sign him to an okay contract and trade him. But a contract like he's got now, no one's going to want to take on that deal.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Two and two start to San Francisco.
Yeah.
All right. The odds are, and they can, anything, anything can happen to Sennefeld. The odds are they're not going to get home field advantage.
I, I see that.
Yeah. So they're going to have to go into Detroit. They did that last year, didn't they? Did they have to go through Detroit or were they in San Francisco at the championship game?
I think they had to go to Detroit. Detroit was, I think, high seed.
Yeah, that's right. So they might have to go to Detroit. The Seahawks don't look quite as glossy now after last night's loss.
Yeah, I didn't get last night's scores.
Yeah. And, you know, they're, they're, their schedule, listen to the schedule come up. The Chiefs, the Bills, the Seahawks, the Packers, the Lions, and the Cowboys are all coming up.
For the Niners.
That sucks.
Yeah. They could very well be a 9-7 team, if not worse.
Yeah.
They have all these injuries and they have Ioop being a dick. And then you also have them shaking off the cobwebs and losing again in the Super Bowl. That may be a fatal combination.
It could be. Yeah. Now I see, you know, the yawning void in front of them. Imagine, is it possible Ioop is so pissed off that he had to fight so long for this money that now even though he's got it, he's still punishing the team.
And he knows they can't afford to sit him or trade him or anything. So he's like, I can do whatever I want. You can't touch me.
And also think there's some resentment from the rest of the team that had to restructure their contracts to fit him in.
And now he's acting like a child. They're going to dislike him even more and no one's going to have his back. And it's just he's going to become the tumor in the locker room.
Yeah. They're going to be fucking dick. I just restructured my contract and taken less money for you. And now you're fighting with everybody and not working out properly.
And then if a guy like that winds up leaving and you're like, I did all that for nothing.
Yes. And you're going to have some reservations about that the next time it needs to be done. Yeah. I don't know about that. You know, last time there.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't buy my lake house and then I left anyway. Yeah.
He got traded for fucking chump change and a seat cushion. Yeah.
And don't forget the bag of pencil shavings. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. That's right. Love that. We still owe somebody pencil shavings. That's true. I know.
Hey, whoever you are, email us. What is it? Sports Bastard 776 at excite dot com. I think that's it. Yeah, that's it. All right.
And my final question about San Francisco is, is Jerry Rice still being a dick? Yeah. Yeah, probably. Yeah.
He he was held up and promoted as the nice guy and sweet, lovable Jerry Rice.
And it was fun on TV. But then you got to know the real guy and he was kind of an elitist bastard. Yeah.
They talked about, oh, his work ethic and he's so amazing. Well, yeah, he's doing that for himself. Yeah.
Oh, and one more thing that I wanted to bring up here. The Cleveland Browns seem to be getting unraveled.
Yes. Deshaun Watson and Jameis Winston were yelling at DeJuan Jones after a blown block.
Does Deshaun have the clout and Jameis have the clout to be out there chastise in alignment?
No. Exactly. Backup quarterback. And how can the backup quarterback had to jump in there and go, yeah, what he said?
He's like the mini me. Yeah. He's Deshaun's mini me. Yeah.
And that's a real problem, too, because then you're going to have two people that probably aren't leaders that are trying to be leaders.
Yeah. I'm going to go get the coffee and I'm not going to edit this out because I'm a dick.
And we kind of want to switch gears here for a minute before we go into our disastrous picks again.
Kansas City Royals making the postseason nine years after they won the World Series.
Yeah. They're in danger of having a little collapse and not making the playoffs. Thank God they.
Thank God Minnesota choked worse. Yeah.
We nailed down the final playoff spot and we're going to Baltimore. Well, they're in Baltimore right now.
And they're going to play a three game series and none of them at home because they have the last spot.
And you kind of get a pattern when you're in the last spot. That's true. All right, guys, come here.
So we wish them luck and we congratulate them on a hell of a season after 100 loss, 100 lost season last year.
They were out of it in late March. Late March. Nobody gave one ounce of shit about that.
Remember that? Yeah, it was just ridiculous.
It was just like we didn't even have a team. Yes.
But my stance is this. I want them to go to the playoffs for the experience. I don't think true.
I mean, in 2014, they were like two outs away from winning the World Series and they were the last wild card.
I asked them off that day. They're behind like nine to nothing.
And I turned the game off, said, I'm going to go rake leaves. Fuck this.
I come back and they're like, hey, hey, I think the world's just tied it up.
I'm like, oh, no, what? Fuck.
So anyhow, and so I didn't think it was going to do it in 2014.
I'm not saying they're going to do it this year.
I mean, they got some really tough teams ahead of them, but anything's possible.
But anyhow, thank you, Kansas City Royals.
We I tried to get to another game, but I never did get to you and I both wanted to go.
But next there's next year, we'll get to some games. Yep.
So anyhow, we can't leave until the earliest 2031.
That's right. So we'll get to enjoy you for another few years. Yeah.
So yeah. And then after that, they're probably going to be in Louisville
because is it John Sherman from Cincinnati and they already have a team?
Yeah. So actually, they'll probably be in Johnson County with the chiefs.
True, true. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, Kansas City here, we got things to worry about like crime. Yeah.
So. And of course, the priority is also to screw with the parking around here.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because of the current.
Yeah. So now they have flex parking or dynamic event based pricing.
Yeah. It's the same thing as dynamic pricing.
It's fucking evil and I hate it.
Well, parking is like what? 150. Yeah.
And then when there's a current game, it's 30 bucks. Yeah.
All that does is screw the businesses around here because no one's going to pay 30 bucks to go get a fucking falafel.
Yeah. No, they're not going to come down here to get pumpkins or go down to Costco right down the road and buy pumpkins or cheaper there anyhow.
They're not going to help Joe Farmer out because they can't pay 30 bucks to come get a couple of pumpkins. Yeah.
So think about that, assholes.
You know, there's their laws against what's called usury.
Like if we had a natural disaster and everyone's power went out in every store in the city,
and they started doubling and tripling the price of generators, that would be illegal.
But when it's something that's voluntary, like you're not required to participate in the current's game.
You know, if it was a natural disaster, you're stuck with it. Yeah.
But the current's game is voluntary.
Therefore, they feel justified in jacking the price up to the point where you can just barely make it happen.
And yeah, and I can go a step further on this real quick, too. Yeah.
The real problem is the city's planning.
They should have told the current, yeah, we want the stadium, but you have to come up with an answer for parking.
And me, one of the sports bastards right here have their answer and they're too, what would you call it?
Stupid. Yeah, stupid. Ignorant. Everything.
OK, you go down the road to Valley Casino.
There's parking everywhere. You come up with a tram system.
And Valley would love all those people being on their lot. Oh, yeah.
You have a couple of beers and you're like, you know what? I need to sober up a little bit.
I'm going to get on that tram and go down to the parking lot.
I'm going to go play a couple of poker games, sober up a little bit, and then I'm going home.
It'd be a little more expensive maybe, but there's also that abandoned casino, Samstown.
That would be a great idea, too.
Right across the river, park there, have a ferry boat, fans back and forth across the river.
You can make it an event. Yep.
You know, people be coming from out of town going, not only do you guys have the first standalone women's soccer league stadium
that is state of the art and beautiful, but you also have a ferry that goes there.
We can rewrite a boat up to this time. Wouldn't that be cool?
Yeah, they give them little paddles for the flying Asian carp.
Sorry, sorry, I didn't.
That was almost coffee coming out of my nose.
Sorry, man, I didn't mean to do that to you.
Okay, now. I was picturing it.
Everybody, now watch me, watch the lead guy.
Okay, Asian carp, here's your paddle. Bam.
Okay, the one with the most paddles gets a free hot dog.
That's the funniest deal.
So that being said, should we go on to our horrible pics?
Yes. Should we go ahead and embarrass ourselves?
Yes, let's shoot that wounded duck.
Yeah, let's put it out of its misery.
Our wounded duck right now is going, brrrr.
It's just dying to be shot. It's looking at us, come on, man.
The afterlife's got to be better, even for a duck.
I was remembering that scene at the end of the fly
where the guy sees the fly with the human head on it,
caught in the spider's web, and he's going, kill me.
Kill me, yeah, because the spider's getting ready to zap.
That's our pics from last week. They're saying, kill me.
What a great movie that was, too.
That was scary as hell. It was like 50s, I think.
Most people are arachnophobias anyhow, right?
Yeah, really. Any movie with spiders in it and guaranteed chills.
That was such a...
Yeah, and you thought it was over, you know, the guy was dead.
All right, no more of the fly.
All right, everything's good.
Yeah, they dealt with the human body with the fly head,
but they forgot about the fly body with the human head.
Oops, there's one of those out there still, too.
What a great concept from back then, too.
He's just going to do it to see what it does
with nothing in there but a fly gun in there.
And I think David Cronenberg did a really good version with Jeff Goldblum
where they did it on a genetic level, where he was genetically mixed with the fly.
So he started mutating into the fly over time.
Yeah, it was a slightly different take on it, but it was really good, too.
Very well done movie.
Yeah, Gina Davis looked so hot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, they were pushed up pretty good, weren't they?
Oh, yeah, yeah, works of art. Works of art.
Okay, I don't know how we got there,
but let's go with our picks.
All right, I think we were talking about putting something out of its misery.
Oh, that's right, the fly. That's it.
Okay, thank you, because I was really stressing going, how did we get there?
All righty, first game on the list, Dallas at the Giants.
Dallas won 20 to 15, and we both got it right.
Well, we can't.
Oh, go ahead. I was going to say, you picked 21-20, and I was 30 to 13.
Can we really pat ourselves on the back for that one?
Not really. Not really.
Daniel Jones, way too much money.
Yeah.
Should he go to Minnesota, too, like Sam Darnold?
Sure, yeah.
Four and 0, Minnesota.
Yeah.
Go to Miami, they need a quarterback.
You know, that is actually not a bad idea.
Yeah.
They're not going anywhere.
They need a game manager kind of quarterback to have a decent season,
and then figure out next year.
And also, if Tagovaiola does come back, you can split some of that with him,
and go, look, man, we're not going to put you in every play,
but we'll put you in a certain amount or come up with, oh, potential spam.
I know not to answer that.
Anyhow, yeah, I mean, or just keep Sam Darnold in there
and let Tagovaiola figure out his future.
Yeah.
I like that idea, too.
Will it happen? Probably not.
Probably not.
Yeah, so, hey, that actually is a brilliant idea.
And also, Mike McDaniels, he seems to do a good job with quarterbacks
that have some degree of talent.
Yeah.
So, he's not going to take an ass bag and make something out of him.
He's not going to take Ryan Lee to make it, you know.
And that would probably be a better choice for Miami
than bringing in somebody who's had almost no starting experience.
Oh, Huntley, yeah, yeah, he was filling in for Lamar Jackson
during the contract...
Oh, okay.
...problem, yeah.
He's a good running quarterback, but that's about it.
But everyone knows he can't pass, so, you know.
Yeah.
That kind of gets shut down.
All right, well, all right, let's pat ourselves on the back.
Bap, bap, bam. On two.
Cincinnati at Carolina.
This was pretty easy to pick, wasn't it?
Yeah, it was, because we knew Cincinnati was not going to go 0-3.
And actually, I've got some of our bullet points.
I've got Cincinnati scheduled.
Oh, boy.
And it's going to be surprising, so anyhow.
I think they're going to make the playoffs,
but I've got to reach everything,
so we'll wait until we get into bullet points on that.
Okay.
Actual score was 34-24.
You picked 30-20, so super close.
And I picked 27-17.
We both did good.
I really underestimated the offenses.
Both teams scored more than I thought they would.
Okay, Jamar Chase, if he's unattended like I thought he was,
it's just going to run rush shot.
I mean, if you don't have a plan, which they don't,
I mean, all they really have now is Andy Dalton,
a couple of receivers, and a decent front line.
And that's it.
I mean, really, they don't have any defense to speak of.
So, I mean, they have a couple of guys that they ought to consider trading, but.
I was trying to look up to see if Cincinnati was able to run the ball against Carolina.
You know what, that's a good question.
I think they did run it pretty successfully with their newer guy.
Hang on.
Let me take a look here, because I think they ran it pretty good.
I think they got like maybe 98 yards out of a guy or something.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
Hang on, let me make sure I'm correct on this.
And like always, I forgot the guy's name, so.
Yeah.
Cincinnati versus Carolina statistics.
All right.
Let me see here.
We need an AI to come hallucinate the answer for us.
Okay.
Rushing first downs, they've had five, which is way less than the Panthers.
Yeah.
Well, we'll just presume they had a decent running game.
Yeah, I think they did.
I'm pretty sure.
I think it's somewhere around 100 yards, which is very acceptable.
So, again, I mean, that wasn't that hard to predict.
But we did say that Carolina was going to give them some fight, and they did.
Yeah, yeah, Carolina could have gotten blown out.
Yeah, which we'll go into this later with bullet points.
It raises a very obvious Bryce Young question.
So, anyhow.
Next up, we have New Orleans at Atlanta.
Atlanta won 26-24.
We both got that right.
Yeah.
You were 24-17, and I was 21-14.
So, scored a little bit more.
Yeah.
Much closer game than we thought it was going to be.
Atlanta isn't a joke, like we talked about last week.
Kurt Cousins is playing better than he did in Minnesota.
I only X'd him off because of his ACL.
So, evidently, they've gotten so good with ACL injuries that it doesn't really matter anymore.
You don't slow down one bit.
So, I mean, it might be like my fake knee.
I was talking to the surgeon afterwards going, do I have to be careful with it?
He goes, it's titanium.
Yeah.
I'm like, oh.
The rest of your leg will break before you're needed.
Yeah, that's what he said.
He said, you worry about your ankle or something.
Don't worry about that knee.
One thing to worry about for Falcons fans, though, is I think they only had one offensive touchdown in the game.
Yes, that is a big concern.
Yeah, they had two defensive touchdowns.
And then, what was it?
A long field goal.
You know, that's 17 points right there.
Yeah.
So, that was the difference between winning and losing.
It was.
No, you're right on that.
And I was going to go into that and put it like this.
Is Derek Carr being Derek Carr?
I mean, he does have Alvin Camaro.
He has a really big weapon there.
Yeah.
Derek Carr's biggest problem has always been consistency.
It looks to me like he came out throwing bullets and then, because the game was really good for a while,
then it just became lopsided because of Atlanta's defense.
Yeah.
Well, the two games that New Orleans has done well, they've gotten out to a big lead in Heldon.
But whenever they're behind or close to, they haven't done anything.
Yeah.
So, there's the thing to work on is, I mean, it's pretty easy for a team to coast when they've got a two or three score lead.
Yeah, prevent defense, prevent offense, all that.
Yeah.
So, it's not really a fair test of your team or your coach or your plate calling when you've got a big lead all the time.
Yeah.
I mean, you're great.
You got the lead, but unless you can count on that every time, you've got to be able to come from behind and fight.
Yeah.
I mean, they're kind of like the opposite of the Chiefs.
What makes the Chiefs more dangerous than anything right now is number 15 being able to do it when it counts.
Yep.
And one of the receivers being able to step up when it counts.
Yeah.
Or two of them or three of them.
The thing is, is the Chiefs are so acclimated and good at winning by one point, it's hard to beat them.
And this is like the opposite of what New Orleans has been doing.
If they can't jump out to a huge lead, it reminds me of the Chiefs in like the late 80s.
They couldn't jump out to before, you know, Schottheimer and Thomas and Smith and Albert Lewis and all those guys.
Yeah.
Before that, we could jump out to a lead, but we had to have a certain amount of lead.
Otherwise, you knew that they were going to lose.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
For a long period of time in Kansas City, close games, you knew you were going to lose them.
Yeah.
And unless you had a good lead going into the fourth quarter, you knew the Chiefs were going to find a way to lose the game.
Actually, Alex Smith in the playoffs was a lot like him.
Yeah.
If you were close in the playoffs, the only playoff game that we won with Alex Smith, we had a commanding lead.
And was it Tennessee?
I can't remember who it was.
Sounds right.
Yeah, they got out to a huge lead and they kept it.
Man, that's fun football when you play with a commanding lead.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's fun because then you're like, I'll come and be out in the yard.
Let me know if something exciting happens.
Yeah.
Well, all right.
I mean, I don't know what else there is to say about that.
New Orleans is trying to rebuild under Carr.
But the thing is, is I think Carr is a bridge player and not someone they expect to win anything with.
Yeah, that's a term I've learned to appreciate more as the bridge player.
Yeah.
It makes so much sense.
Alex Smith was one of the best bridge players ever.
Yeah.
I mean, he could not have been a better bridge player.
He got us in the playoffs every year.
But awaiting the guy.
Yeah.
And then when the guy showed up, he very graciously showed him everything he knew, which is good, real good.
The only thing with Alex Smith is if he had the arm, he would have had multiple Super Bowls.
Yeah.
His intelligence was just superior to most quarterbacks.
Imagine Alex Smith's intelligence and personality combined with the sheer physical ability of Jeff George.
Well.
Oh my God.
You kind of got that with Mahomes.
Yeah.
I mean, Jeff George wasn't that much of a scrambler, but damn, that guy could find the open receiver.
I remember watching game after game with Jeff George's quarterback.
Oh, he was beautiful.
His passes were gorgeous.
He put them right where they needed to be.
Tight spiral, not too tight, not too fast.
Yeah.
But he was just such a nightmare person to be around.
No, he did not have that winning personality.
He had a very erratic personality.
Yeah.
A very irresponsible personality.
He was not a leader.
I hope he's gotten some help because the way he was living his life, he kind of knew he didn't have a grip.
Yeah, I have no idea about him and I'm not even going to look it up at this point.
No, no.
Yeah.
But anyway, off topic, but yeah, Jeff George had the physical ability, but not the mind.
No.
And Alex Smith had all of the mind and a good chunk of the physical ability, but.
His biggest problem is he could not pinpoint that pass.
Yeah.
And he kind of like Lamar Jackson, only he could run it quite as well.
He could scramble and he wasn't the fastest guy, but he could maneuver around people and he could outsmart people.
The pump fake, I think Mahomes got that from him.
Yeah.
The pump fake worked so well.
You know, you sell it.
When you're running, you're like, and you point.
You saw that in the Chargers game a couple of times.
Yeah, it increases.
You got the Chargers player to one guy jumped.
You know why that works.
When you're off your feet, you can't change direction.
You can't do anything until you fall back down again.
And now with the pass rusher rules and all the unnecessary roughness rules against quarterback, they have to adhere to that.
Yeah.
Because if you nail that guy after he throws the pass, you're getting 15 yards on top of whatever.
Yeah.
I know defensive players complained about it and really don't like it, but the fact is NFL wants an offense oriented game.
They want lots of scores.
They want lots of plays.
That's been the knock on baseball for years.
Yeah.
They don't want a 13-any, one to nothing game.
No.
So.
So, you know, they're going to keep changing the rules to make it easier for the offense to score and tougher for the defense to stop them.
And if you're a defensive player, you just got to kind of make peace with that because that's the way it's going.
Yeah.
Okay.
Where were we now?
Jacksonville at Houston.
The actual score was Houston won 24-20.
You had predicted 27-3 and I predicted 28-13.
So, we both got the winner right.
And we both predicted a wider margin.
Yeah.
Okay.
So far we did better than I thought we did.
Yeah.
So, if I have any extra notes on about Houston, I don't think I do.
CJ Stroud is having some sophomoric issues.
Yeah.
It's nothing he can't overcome.
I wonder about the coaching sometimes.
It does seem like he's going to come back to the pack.
You know, there are quarterbacks that are out there leading the charge.
And then you've got like the peloton of quarterbacks clogging up the middle.
Yeah.
It seems like he's back in that clustering.
Yeah.
I would say so, too.
Yeah.
Hope he doesn't stay there, man, because he's so much fun to watch when he's playing well.
Oh, he is.
Well, I'd love to see an ongoing Chiefs-Texans rivalry.
That would be great.
Wouldn't it?
Because the Chiefs used to have the name Texans when they were in Dallas.
So, there's a natural rivalry rivalry there.
They actually asked permission.
They did.
That was very classy.
Yeah, it was.
And they're very aptly named, too.
I mean, you know, that's a great name for them.
Yeah.
You know, Texas is pretty much the other country.
Yeah.
So, anyhow, Texans are going to be fine.
They're going to find themselves in the playoffs.
CJ Stroud continues to learn.
Yep.
Right now, the sexy is Jaden Daniels.
Yeah.
So...
Everybody's on him.
Yeah, everybody's on him.
So, CJ Stroud needs to very quietly creep up it, you know, and learn a little bit more
each day.
And I think he's going to be fine.
I think so, too.
As long as they, you know, they need to keep building the team for him and not just say,
oh, we got the one guy on its coast.
Yeah.
It seemed like Denver did that a few years with Elway.
It's like, oh, we got Elway.
We don't need any good players.
And that didn't last very long.
Yeah, that was...
I remember having Elway having some really bad seasons.
What was that coach under?
They finally got rid of him, and then they brought in Mike Shanahan.
Yeah, it was a guy before Shanahan, and I don't really remember that guy's name.
Oh, he was very well thought of until afterwards when they won Super Bowls without him.
I can't think of his name.
He was known as a defensive guy anyhow.
Yeah, yeah, I remember that because Denver loved him until they realized what they'd been missing.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, we've had this team all along.
He wasn't getting much out of it.
Oh, maybe he wasn't so great after all.
He wasn't that good of a quarterback.
Reeves, Dan Reeves.
Yes, Dan Reeves.
Yeah, Dan Reeves.
I remember him.
Yeah.
He was a tight end for the Cowboys in his playing career, and then he became head coach.
He stopped in between, I'm sure.
But yeah, I remember him stomping the sidelines.
He was Mr. Lowkey, and didn't really say a whole lot, didn't really get all that wild.
Then he had Mike Shanahan come in with his rat teeth.
Yep.
He was a tight end for the Cowboys in his playing career, and then he became head coach.
He stopped in between, I'm sure.
Mike Shanahan came in with his rat teeth.
Yep.
Oh yeah, the rat.
Yep.
Shana Rat.
Yes.
I used to call him Shana Rat.
Yes.
Some of those nicknames are like, Codropius Tony.
I love that one.
Codropius.
Tamaric Turnover.
Tamaric Turnover was one of my favorites.
That was so good.
And then, let's see, remember Angel Baroa?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was all hell, Baroa.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because he screwed up so much.
And then the people in the trailer park called him Angel.
Yes.
Angel Baroa.
That Angel Barista guy.
Hey, I'll go ahead.
All right, next up we have Denver at the Jets.
Denver won 10 to 9.
We both got that wrong.
Yeah, and you know why?
That fucking kicker.
Yep.
Missed a chip shot.
Plus it was raining.
Yeah.
It was just an awful sloppy nasty.
It was a horrible game, yeah.
But truth be known though, it was kind of fun watching Aaron Rodgers sulk.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, that was very heartwarming.
I did have some takeaways from this game.
Oh, yeah.
Aaron Rodgers looks like he could be not injured as in, you know, take him out injured, but
just banged up enough that it's affecting his plays.
He got hit a number of times in the game.
I didn't get a really good look at this game, so go ahead.
I don't have anything to really add to it.
Consensus I was hearing was the Jets game plan was just predictable as hell.
There was nothing to it.
It was predictable.
Denver knew exactly what was coming.
So that's what, you know, New York scored their final.
They scored three field goals and like the third one came in the fourth quarter, I think.
They just had nothing going all day long.
I've got a question for you a little bit beyond that.
Yeah.
At what point does Aaron Rodgers become a malcontent?
Yeah, and that would play into the second thing is that the head coach kind of failed
in this game because he didn't come up with a good game plan.
He didn't come up with adjustments.
I like Salaugh until I see him with Rodgers, and then I don't like him.
I think something happened between the two of them last season.
It did.
Jets head coach is like, I'm not on board with this guy anymore.
There was also an incident caught on camera where...
They were screaming at each other last year.
Yeah.
Well, this was this season.
Head coach Robert Salaugh was talking to, was it Lurie, Jeff Lurie, the owner of the Jets?
Yeah, Lowry, Lurie, whatever.
I get him confused with the Eagles owner.
He's Nick Lowry's cousin.
The inventor of Lowry's season's home.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's her dad.
Anyway, so the head coach and the owner were talking, and the head coach said something,
and the owner gave a look like the guy had just farted in his face.
A look of total dismissal, disapproval.
Dull.
Yeah, the owner does not like the head coach.
And the owner's going to side with Aaron Rodgers against the head coach.
I remember you telling me that.
So he may be on the hot seat as much as Peterson in Jacksonville.
Yeah, okay, he might be the next one.
I think Doug Peterson's the first one picked off.
I'm going to give him two more games.
I think his over-under is two games.
If they lose the next two, for certain he's out of there and the offensive coordinator,
defensive coordinator is filling in.
Yeah, he's going to be the sacrificial lamb down there in Jacksonville.
Yeah, I think so.
I've got more written down about the Eagles and Bucks.
Oh, you're talking about Eagles and Bucks.
But yeah, for the Jets and the Broncos, I watched Bo Nicks play,
and some of his plays he threw and played pretty well.
Others he almost got it done.
The ball was close.
And then there were plays where it's like, what the heck was he thinking?
Yeah.
He's still so all over the place with his throws.
Sometimes he looks like he's just got no idea what's going on out there.
Here's what got me is they got the same guy as Drew Locke.
Drew Locke I think had a little bit better arm.
Yeah.
And they let Drew Locke go in favor, they let him go last year before.
Yeah, but they'd already given up on him.
If they're looking for a serviceable quarterback, I think they had it.
And now they've got to train this guy and try to get him to mold and fit the offense.
I think that's one of the biggest showing factors of Denver right now.
They don't have a direction.
They don't have a plan.
And they don't really seem to be focused in on getting the next guy.
And unless they've been able to pull something off some miracle, they are in salary cap hell right now.
You see, I want to do like the Chiefs and go from a playoff team to a Super Bowl team.
They can't do that.
They don't have a guy in there that can teach the young guy and get him to that point.
They're going to have to tank to get the guy they need.
Yeah.
And they refuse to do that.
That's why they hired Russell Wilson.
That's why they hired What's-his-Nuts in there.
Sean Payton.
Yeah, Sean Payton.
Yeah, I don't see Denver having the team that can add a few players and then suddenly make a run.
They need to be the team that adds a bunch of good players and starts being a perennial winner in playoff appearance, then make a run.
But people don't want to wait that long.
So they're trying to do a quick fix.
I mean, the problem is they've waited like 20 years.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, they wasted so much time.
They've got to get to it.
I mean, after that, you know, 20 years ago, if they would have said, all right, post-Plummer maybe, I think they're decent with Plummer.
Yeah.
Didn't they go to a couple of playoff games?
Yeah.
Then Jacksonville panced them in one of them and it was kind of like a whole Mark Brunell-led.
Yeah.
Yeah, Jake Plummer actually did pretty well.
He did do.
But at a certain point, he was just so sick of playing in the NFL that he just completely quit.
Yeah.
Yeah, Plummer, he exited pretty early.
And he's just basically off the grid now.
Yeah.
That's the way he wants it.
After that, they kept trying to find bridge players and trying to get them to feel like they're trying to get people excited about nothing.
And it hasn't been working.
So anyhow.
Okay.
Quick, quick answer just off the top of your head.
John Elway's tenure as general manager.
Trash.
I was going to say good or bad.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
I didn't know that one.
No, I was just going to say good or bad.
Bad.
You already said, yeah, I agree.
I think Elway was not anything like they thought he was going to be.
And if not for the PR surrounding his name and his reputation in that town, they would have run him out long ago.
Now you know why George Brett is not the GM of the Royals and never will be.
He's popular and everybody would love him, but he would not do a good job.
He's smart enough not to try.
Yeah.
He's like, all right, I'm not that guy.
I'll be president of operations.
Okay.
You know, quarterbacks, they just love to run things.
Yeah.
It's kind of their job description when they're a quarterback.
So you want to run the team, you want to run the organization.
He needs to eat some pride and get a guy in there like a quarterback.
Maybe he needs to call up Mike Holmgren and go, hey, will you come over here and help me look at some quarterbacks?
Or call up John Lynch and take some lessons.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Is it John Lynch is in Tampa?
Tampa.
General manager.
Yeah.
I remember him in his playing days.
He was a safety.
Yeah.
He was a defensive back of some kind.
Yeah, he was a really good one too.
John Lynch has been an excellent general manager.
Yeah.
So Elway could take some lessons.
What's his name?
Mike Drabel.
Yes.
That's it.
We're talking about a head coach here though.
Yeah.
But he came in.
I don't know why they got rid of this new guy.
I don't know about him.
He is wishy washy as hell.
So I guess Levis is okay this time.
I don't know.
So all right.
So we got Denver Jets.
So we're doing okay there.
Next up, Minnesota at Green Bay.
Minnesota won 31 to 29.
Yeah.
And we both picked, no, let's see.
No, you picked, wait, wrong line.
All right.
You picked Green Bay 17 to 7.
Yeah, sure did.
And I picked Minnesota 24-17.
You were much closer and you have the right team as well there.
Yeah.
I was, when I made that pick, I thought Jordan Love wasn't going to play at all, but he wound
up playing.
That's why I made the pick.
It was my understanding that he was going to play.
Yeah.
And Jordan Love's either still injured a little bit or maybe he's losing his luster.
Yeah.
So it's amazing to see Kirk Cousins leave Minnesota and do better and Minnesota do better
now that he's in Minnesota's world.
Sam Darnold.
It's amazing.
And what's his name out there?
Premier wide receiver.
Jefferson.
Justin Jefferson.
Yeah, he's back.
Oh, is he back now?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, then all right.
Then they're going to win some more games.
Yeah.
And then Sam Darnold's working.
That's what I had written down.
The pieces are coming back from Minnesota.
They're getting healthy and coming back.
And Jordan Love is not 100%.
Four touchdowns, three interceptions in that game.
Okay.
He's probably still injured, but I still have some reservations about him being the man.
True, true.
It was an easy decision when you had Farve and Rodgers.
Yeah.
Easy decision.
This, if Rodgers went to force his hand, do you think Rodgers would still be playing there?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
They were willing to put up with his personality.
Nonsense.
Yeah.
Put it that way.
Yeah.
Evidently, it had been going on for a long time.
Yeah.
Only they just didn't publicize it.
Yeah.
So, okay.
Rodgers would still be there, which would indicate that Jordan Love was maybe not the
man?
Yeah.
Okay.
So he wasn't showing him anything in practice.
He was the man by default.
Yeah.
The man left.
So he's sitting there holding his bag of shit, and they're like, okay, Jordan, get up there.
Yeah.
You got the keys now.
Go drive.
Yeah.
They called him the poor man's Patrick Mahomes.
No.
No, no, no, no.
That's not a good thing.
I mean, he's not, and it would be a bad thing to be called that.
Maybe this year.
No.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, you just can't throw to the milkman down the road.
No.
The milkman down the road, he's not capable of catching passes.
So, Eddie out.
All right.
Next game, we have Pittsburgh at Indy.
The actual score was 27-24, Indy.
You picked Pittsburgh 24-21.
Yep.
And I picked Indy 27-17.
Wow, you're on a roll, dude.
That sounds like it.
Yeah.
I'm still thinking Pittsburgh is not really sure at quarterback.
Justin Fields is showing glimpses.
Yeah.
But he's not showing full-on gains.
But it looks like Mike Tomlin has picked him and is going to stick with him.
That's what he needed to do.
Yeah.
Russell Wilson, as good as he was early in his career, is as bad as he is now.
Yeah.
I wonder if he's still insisting on a separate locker room for just him.
That would be a good thing to try to find out.
Remember, he was doing that in Seattle.
Seattle, and that's why they got rid of him.
Yeah.
He was too good for the rest of the team.
And this is after he got his new high-class girlfriend, is what they said.
Yeah, there you go.
So, he's kind of being arrogant and everything.
So, I don't know how he takes to be in the second fiddle.
You think he's gone next year and he's like, I'm not doing this?
If they can financially do it, I think they'd get rid of him now.
I think so, too.
I think they would.
Because whatever talent you've got there as a backup, you can get for a whole lot less.
Yes.
So, I think the financials are helping Russell Wilson keep his job.
I think they're okay.
I think Denver's still paying him.
I would think, yeah.
I'm just not sure who took on what burden.
When they let him go, they had to take on a bunch of money.
And that might be another reason why they didn't get the man.
It might be.
I don't know.
It seemed, from my understanding, that it could have changed.
I believe when the contracts, when they went from signing bonuses to guaranteed money,
my understanding was the initial team was responsible for all the guaranteed money,
no matter how long it took to pay it out.
And then the team he's traded to just assumes the yearly contract part.
Yeah.
And so, broken down like this, this is the way I equate it to.
You buy a house for 30 years.
Something happens, and you can't take your payments anymore, and someone assumes the loan.
Okay, you got 30 years of payment, and then you got like five years left that someone assumed.
I mean, does that make sense?
Yeah.
It's kind of like that.
So, when they have guaranteed money like that, they cut him a check and go, goodbye.
And then what that does for the team is that allocates whatever left to something else.
And there's a difference between when they have guaranteed money
and when they say it's spread out over the life of the contract.
Sometimes they mean that's the way it's done in accounting.
Yes.
And sometimes they mean they actually don't get the money, and they just get a chunk each year as it goes.
But sometimes they get all that guaranteed money up front at once.
But the team puts it on successive years.
I think Wilson was guaranteed up front, wasn't he?
I think so.
So, in that case, Denver's already paid him everything.
Yeah, and probably Pittsburgh's paid him very minimal.
The thing is, is he being a cancer or not?
That's the thing, I think.
So, anyhow, we shall see.
I mean, Pittsburgh's doing good.
They are.
They have a three-and-one.
Three-and-one?
Yeah.
And they're in the same division with Indy.
Oh, and a Joe Flacco led, excuse me, Indianapolis.
Yes.
Yeah.
Who wasn't good enough to stick around in Cleveland.
Yeah, I know.
And now Cleveland's going straight down the shitter.
I can't wait to talk about Cleveland.
Oh, I can't either.
So, Joe Flacco, again, leads a comeback.
Looks great.
He's playing his game, doing what it takes, showing his veteran poise.
Yeah.
I don't understand why he wasn't picked up before now, but I mean, it took the Browns.
I've got to give them some initiative.
It took them to reach out and get him because he wasn't even playing.
Yeah.
But then they screwed the pooch.
They let him go.
Oh, we don't need you anymore.
We got Deshaun and, you know, so.
Yeah.
How's that working out for you?
It's not.
And then Richardson is injured.
I don't know how bad.
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah.
And they were seeming to think that he was the answer.
And I've seen glimpses, but I'm not really convinced that he's the answer.
I think that he's going to be a decent one, but maybe not the guy to take you to the promised land, of course.
Yeah.
So, hey, Hal.
I don't know what else to say.
Yeah.
Next up, we have the Rams at Chicago.
Chicago won 24 to 18.
We both lost this one.
You had 29, 13 Rams.
I had 20 to 17 Rams.
Yeah.
So, Rams are not doing as well as I thought they were.
No, no, no.
They've got some internal strife, I think.
Yeah.
Sean McVeigh is a really good head coach, a great head coach.
They won a Super Bowl.
But I don't know if he's prepared for what's going on over there.
It just seems like they're kind of like aloof.
You know, that's kind of how I feel about the whole city.
It's like you get to L.A. and you're like, oh, cool, it's L.A.
There's so much to do that isn't football that football just takes a back seat.
Did you see how much red was at the Chargers game?
Yes.
It almost looked like Arrowhead West.
Arrowhead West.
Yes.
I knew there was going to be some presence, but all those people didn't buy tickets or relinquished them.
Yeah.
And it's so weird to think about when they showed in the pregame, they showed the stadium, there's Chargers stuff everywhere.
Last week it was Rams stuff everywhere because they share the stadium.
Fortunately, both teams have the same basic colors, blue and yellow or blue and gold or whatever.
But every week they're swapping back and forth, taking down all the Chargers crap and putting up Rams crap.
And then they take the Rams crap down.
It's got to be monotonous.
The Chargers need to go back to San Diego where they belong.
Yeah.
Leave them there.
They started initially in L.A. and they've been going back and forth to L.A. and San Diego for a while.
L.A. doesn't have enough room because they don't have the interest in it.
No, they don't.
There's too much else to do.
Yeah.
It's an entertainment capital which, you know, football is entertainment, but there's so much else in entertainment-wise that doesn't take all day.
No, they don't.
Yeah.
Football game is your day, but there's a hundred other things you can do in that same amount of time that are going to be just as fun.
Yeah.
I don't see the Rams really ever putting together a dynasty.
No, no, no.
They were on the verge of it, but they just could not – they had a follow-up year that was really subpar.
It was.
So, yeah, and now they're missing a lot of key components, especially on their defense.
They had to let a lot of people go.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
All right.
Next game, Philadelphia at Tampa Bay.
Actual score was 33 to 16, Tampa Bay winning.
So, you got it right, 24-21 was your prediction, and I was wrong.
I thought the Eagles were going to go 27-20.
The Eagles look to me like they're falling apart again.
Oh, yeah.
Hertz is being found out.
Yep.
They're blowing him up at the line, and there's nothing he can do.
They know he can't make that pass, so they're just going after him.
Yeah.
He's definitely not enough to carry the team, and right now that's what needs to happen
is somebody needs to go in and start carrying this team, but it's just not going to be Hertz.
And also, you know the old saying, and this is true, a team carries the personality of
the head coach.
They're a bunch of punks.
They are.
Nick Sirianni's a punk.
Yep.
So, all of them are punks.
That's really hurting him.
I'm all for them going straight down the shitter, and Sirianni getting the fuck out of there,
because I hate Philadelphia almost as much as I hate the Raiders.
I'm starting to as well.
Yeah, they're just a shit place, a shit organization.
Yeah.
It's everything about that is ugly.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's just, yeah.
Move to Willington, Delaware.
Yeah.
We might like you better.
The Willington trousers, I don't know.
Yeah.
Does that sound good?
I've got to make a correction.
Yeah.
I was talking about the Jets head coach and the owner now getting along.
I had them confused.
It's the Eagles head coach and the Eagles owner.
Oh, I knew that.
Which makes more sense.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, I knew that.
That makes more sense.
So, I think the Eagles owner is catching on that his head coach is a punk and a jerk.
Yeah.
And he's, you can't run a football team like a street gang, and that's what he's kind of
doing.
I agree.
And you know, I'll go a step further.
When he mounted off an arrowhead, I would have brought that guy in the office and said,
if you do anything questionable ever again, you're out of here.
You're out of here down the chute.
Yeah.
Because that is such a horrible look.
It is.
The Eagles defense isn't even any good anymore.
No, no, no.
Well, number one, Jason Kelsey's not protecting hurts.
Yeah.
That hurts.
Yeah, they're getting what they get.
Nick Sirianni's a punk and they're punks and I'm glad they lost.
And from the Bucks standpoint, Mayfield was on fire.
I knew he was going to have a comeback game.
Yeah, this was pretty awesome.
And Brady was in the building calling the play.
Yeah.
So that added to it.
As Mayfield just went out and took care of what needed to be taken care of, that was pretty awesome.
Yeah, isn't that great?
I mean, he's doing what Romo was doing.
Oh, now they're going to counter with this.
Now they're going to counter with that.
Yeah.
The game was never really in the doubt, was it?
No, it wasn't.
Yeah.
And then – go ahead.
Oh, Tampa Bay is going to be like we thought.
Anyhow, go ahead.
The last thing I wanted to put out, last year it took until December for Philly to lose for the second time.
They've already lost for the second time.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And then they went on that streak.
Yeah.
They went – I forget what day in December, but we're still in the first month of the season and they've lost their second game,
which is fairly normal, but compared to last year, that's quite a come down.
Yeah.
They were 10-1, I think.
Yeah, 10-1.
And then before they lost, they were 10-2.
Didn't take them that long to lose two games.
No.
Damn.
No, and with their schedule, they're going to be losing quite a few more.
And it would not surprise me if we see them in a wild card or not even at.
And Philly fan is going to lose their mind.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
They've been knocking on the door of the Super Bowl, they've been knocking on the door of a win,
they've been really close, and then it seems to be all just crumbling away.
Kaboom.
Yeah.
They've dreamstashed.
So, yeah, okay.
Crazy.
Well, eat it up, Philly.
Yeah.
Next game on this schedule, we have the New England Patriots at the San Francisco 49ers.
Well, I mean – oh, go ahead.
When much of a game, Niners won 30 to 13.
We both got that right.
I predicted 31-7, you predicted 34-10.
So we're both really close.
We're both really close.
Yeah.
I mean, in all honesty, that was a give-me.
I mean, we knew that was going to happen, even with all the strife,
possibly going over there with Iook and all that.
Yeah, it looks like this season, New England is the easy out.
I've got a weird question for you, but along the lines we're talking about,
okay, how long until Brock Purdy wants a big contract?
He is looking awfully good.
He's still on his rookie deal.
Yeah, but he can always – oh, go ahead.
I think as soon as he's able to, he should start agitating for a big contract.
An extension.
Yeah.
I mean, why would he not starting this year go,
hey, guys, look, I'm leading the league in virtually everything.
Yeah.
And they brought in people to try to take his job, and nobody can.
No.
And McCaffrey is out, and let's see, Kittle was out,
and Iook was being a dick, and he still did it.
Devo Samuel is about the bright spot on their offense right now.
Yeah, yeah, and I think he's banged up, too.
He'd have to be because he's about all they got.
They're probably throwing to him, or he's at least involved in every play,
and so he's getting banged up a lot.
Yeah, so I'm thinking that Brock Purdy is probably –
he should probably already be doing at least a whisper campaign about
that guy needs to be – he needs to be nailed down for 10 years.
You work on that contract right now.
So that would be the smart play.
Yeah, because now I think it's pretty much proven he's not a fluke.
No, no, and that was the – I remember saying, oh, well, you know,
anybody can have a great initial blah, blah, blah, blah.
They're trying to talk him down.
Trey Lance is still in Dallas doing nothing.
Nothing, sitting on the bench.
Yep, so anyhow, that's pretty much the way we thought it was.
The Patriots are pretty much what we thought they were.
They are who we thought they were.
Dennis Green is going, what? What?
Hey, hey, you can't – that's mine.
I sold shirts.
He did.
Speaking of Arizona, that's our next game, Washington and Arizona.
Yeah.
Actual score, 42-14, Washington.
Jaden Daniels.
We both got it right.
You predicted 24-14, so you just switched to 24-42.
Yeah, there we go.
I was almost there.
And I predicted 26-10, so.
You were much closer.
You had a 10-point difference.
I had a 16-point difference.
It wound up being like a 28-point difference.
Jaden Daniels is on fire right now.
He has become the phenom.
And he should.
And Washington could possibly ride this guy to the Super Bowl.
They could, yeah.
It's amazing.
They are so high.
But the only thing that's going to get them would be a stifling defense,
one that will cut off the run and bat down passes.
That's the only way you're going to get to this guy.
Yeah.
Like a Chiefs or possibly a Buffalo or even a San Francisco.
And as usual, whatever success Jaden Daniels has this season,
by next season, they'll have him figured out.
Yeah, yeah, just like CJ Stroud.
Yeah.
CJ Stroud is a real good quarterback still.
Yeah.
But not like he was last year.
They're getting to him.
They're figuring it out.
They're finding they've got all this tape on him now.
Now he has tendencies.
Yes, yeah.
Just like he did in Mahomes.
Yeah.
I mean, Mahomes had to improvise so many different times.
They're so worried about his footwork when actually nobody else was.
Yeah.
Well, actually the Chiefs weren't worried about it or what else was.
Yeah, yeah.
Everyone else was like, we can't draft this guy.
He doesn't have the proper footwork.
And we're looking at going, who gives a fuck?
Yeah.
The guy's getting it done.
Who was that Royals pitcher that pitched really weird?
Was that Quisenberry?
Quisenberry, the under, the...
The kind of sidearms, almost underhanded.
Yeah, he got it that from Kent to Colby.
Yeah.
Yeah, he was the underarm, the under.
Not just sidearm, but underhanded.
I keep saying underarm, underhanded sidearm.
Underarm.
That's good too.
But yeah, there are people who's like, yeah, that will never work.
And then, oh, his arm's going to blow out.
He had an awesome career.
Yeah, and he wasn't throwing that fast.
Yeah.
The problem was he was throwing from a weird place.
No one could figure it out.
Yeah.
So, you know, general managers wise up.
If it's working, don't worry about if it's not exactly the way everyone else does it.
I've got something for you.
Yeah.
Just like drummers are prone to brain cancer, so are relief pitchers.
Look at how many of them, including Quisenberry.
Wow.
Same type, the real aggressive.
I forgot what they call it.
Oh, shit.
There's so many kids with it.
Leoblastoma.
Yes.
That's the common term on medical shows when they're talking brain cancer.
And it goes everywhere in no time.
Quisenberry was a victim of that, and so were I don't know how many relief pitchers.
Coincidence or not.
There's some connection.
Like drummers.
Yeah.
We will probably never know in our lifetime, but someday they will know.
They'll figure it out.
Yeah.
Maybe it's...
Once we get past World War III.
It's some additive or coating on the drumsticks and bullpen.
That would be like the rosin bag they all fondle, but then the regular pitcher does
that.
It's just the relief pitcher.
It's got to be something that relief pitchers do that regular pitchers don't.
Well, when we're asleep and Skynet is updating our brains anyway, it probably just treats
it.
Maybe the intercoms they call them in on.
Yeah.
Number 72, 72, come on in.
It's that walk from the bullpen.
Yeah.
There's probably radioactive burial ground underneath.
Yeah, that's it right there.
Okay.
Arizona, man.
Little defense.
They get 42 points up.
I know.
Look, Murray is doing good.
Yeah.
It's interesting because I didn't think he had anyone to throw to.
Suddenly he has everyone to throw to.
Yeah.
So why is he only scoring 14 points?
What's wrong with the offense?
As I said, you said they got all the pieces they seem to.
Yeah.
It's just not working.
Well, no.
What I was getting at was this right here.
I didn't word it right.
He looked so good at first.
Yeah.
Now all of a sudden there's nobody to throw to.
What happened?
Oh, okay.
I completely fucked that whole thing up trying to save it.
But still, he does have the tools there on offense.
Yeah.
It's broken because they've got what they need.
It's not like, oh, we don't have enough receivers.
They got what they need.
It's just not working.
Yeah.
So as you said, Murray is like, oh, nobody's open.
There's no one to throw to.
How come there weren't any last week?
Yeah, and another thing is I've always questioned Sean Murray's work ethic and his want to,
as Bill Self would call it.
Do I have more want to than the other guy?
Yeah.
Kyler Murray.
Kyler Murray, yeah.
I don't think the want to is there.
Yeah, the early knock on him was that when the new Call of Duty came out, that's all
he did with all of his time.
And he never prepared for the game, and he went in and stunk it up because he was an
addict for Call of Duty.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I don't see Arizona really.
They're Arizona.
It's one of those places I just don't think of as a football town, and I'd be, I wouldn't
be surprised if Arizona never in its existence went to the Super Bowl again.
They've been what, once?
Once, and they lost it.
Yeah, to Pittsburgh.
Yeah, Bruce Arians was offensive coordinator.
I can't think of who the, it was Kurt Warner.
Yeah.
I can't.
I don't remember who the coach was.
Yeah, me neither.
Oh well.
Anyway.
All right, let's move on to the Kansas City Chiefs at the Los Angeles Chargers.
Boy, that was fun, wasn't it?
Oh boy.
Final score, Chiefs won 17 to 10.
That's like an old school score.
Yeah.
We both predicted the Chiefs' loss.
I thought it was going to be 24-21.
You thought it was going to be 30 to 17.
So we both take a hit on that, but, you know.
Very gladly.
I was going to ask you this.
What do you think would have been better this season for the Chiefs, to win that game and
lose Rice or to lose the game and Rice doesn't get injured?
This is going to sound odd.
Yeah.
I think it's better that they won and Rice got injured.
And here's why.
They could not keep relying on one guy.
Yeah.
They have to spread the ball around.
They have to figure out something else besides the hot hand.
I agree.
They've been doing this for a while.
They make everybody relevant.
Yeah.
I mean, I would love to have them in there.
Don't get me wrong.
If I could change it, I'd have them in there.
Yeah.
But I think this forces them to make some changes to their offense, which they need to.
They do.
And also, they're a run-first offense according to all the stats right now, anyhow.
Yeah.
They are number one.
It's pretty wazing.
Yeah.
I love a good running game.
I do, too.
Some of my takeaways I wrote down.
Kelsey finally had a good game.
Mm-hmm.
He got seven catches, 90 yards, something in that area.
I want to see that every game.
I mean, I appreciate.
I love that he caught so many for that many yards.
Now I want him to continue that and build on that.
Yeah.
This can't be like one game out of four.
Well, was he not being a decoy?
Yeah.
I don't think there's any decoying anymore.
Because whoever's out there is who we got, and somebody better get open.
Our offense was so anemic.
I don't know how he could be a decoy.
Yeah.
Another interesting thing about it, trade deadline is approaching.
Mm-hmm.
You asked, you know, should the Chiefs go out and try to find somebody, trade for somebody?
I think they should.
Mm-hmm.
I think they should bring some pieces in.
They need to.
Several people I've heard on media talking about Devonte Adams.
Raiders are not going to give Devonte Adams to the Chiefs unless we send them home.
That's not our style anyhow, RIO.
That's not our style anyhow.
No.
That's not our style.
We draft these receivers.
We don't pay them.
Yeah.
Ask Tyreek Hill.
Yeah.
So yeah, I would take them.
It's been long standing.
Andy Reid and now with each.
Mm-hmm.
You don't pay, except for Terrell Owens, you don't pay these receivers an exorbitant amount
of money to come in and be a receiver.
Yeah.
Even with Marquise Brown and Juju Smith Schuster, they didn't pay him tons.
No, no, no.
They paid him adequately.
Yeah.
They didn't go, they could have got a, what's his name that's, yeah, I can't think of his
name.
He's over there in, oh, at Philadelphia.
Shaquan Barkley.
Yeah.
They didn't pay him.
Yeah.
There's people that were out on the market that they could have paid.
Yeah.
They didn't.
And that's because their philosophy isn't the same as it used to be.
Yeah.
Homegrown, certain players, others go outside and find.
I look for Worthy to step up.
Yeah.
I would really like to see that.
Yeah.
I'd look for him to step up, but I also think that there's some sort of a key element somewhere
that they're going to get, whether it's a practice squad guy that they've been developing
or someone that they've had their eye on all along in case of an injury.
Yeah, that would be.
Because you know, the good GMs like Beach, they're scouring, looking for a replacement
to everybody in case something happens.
Yeah.
That's the new normal for the front office is to, even if you think you're really good
and you're set, you keep looking and you keep a list.
Carolina's got a good receiver.
Oh, yeah.
Who is that?
I can't think of his name.
We're so unprepared on this show.
I know.
We put in what you guys pay.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay, well, what's his ass over there?
Carolina would be willing to trade with us, I'm sure.
What do they care?
Yeah.
By the time they're good, Mahomes is probably going to be as old as Len Dawson.
Well, Len Dawson's dead.
Sorry.
I didn't mean that.
Sorry.
I forgot he passed away.
Yes.
Okay.
Then the last takeaway for the Chiefs game was a very uncharacteristic, violent outburst
tantrum on the sidelines by Justin Herbert.
That would indicate to me that he's not being able to do what he wants to do.
Yeah.
This kind of surprised him, but Jim Harbaugh does butt heads with a lot of people.
He wasn't doing it last year, and they were having a horrible year last year, and this
year, what are they, two and two?
Yeah.
Okay, they're decent.
Okay.
They don't have all the puzzle, and they know this, but they're still doing decent.
So, why would he have a violent outburst?
It looked like it was right at the end of the game.
The suggestion was that he was sick and tired of all the pressure he was getting.
I think both of his guards were out of the game, had backups, and he's not the kind of
guy that ever talks publicly about his teammates, like, well, the line didn't protect, or I
didn't have time, right?
He doesn't say those kind of things, so he's been holding it in and holding it in, and
that was the takeaway I got is he was so tired of just not having any chance to actually
get something done, because the Chiefs defense was swarming him, and he was so frustrated
by that that he just had that outburst.
Okay.
So, now, you set that up perfectly like I thought you would.
Okay.
Justin Herbert's not the guy.
Yeah.
You don't see Mahomes doing it.
No, and Mahomes yells and stuff, because he's like, come on, let's go.
Yeah, guys, we're going to do this.
Come on.
Herbert was smashing his helmet on.
He was all alone smashing his helmet and pounding.
Yeah.
Is that a leader?
Not at that moment, anyway.
No.
Everyone else looks over and goes, geez.
And the word is that it was so incredibly uncharacteristic for him that the rest of
the team was just scared and in shock, like when you're a little kid and your parents
start screaming at each other, you're like, that's not supposed to ever happen.
That's kind of the attitude that the teammates is like, oh my god.
Dad doesn't lose his cool.
What happened?
Dad's always telling us to calm down.
Yes.
I never thought that Herbert had it.
He has a great arm.
He has pretty good football intellect.
OK.
He probably can read quite a few defenses, but that gut, that, ugh, that want to.
Yeah, I could tell pretty early that Josh Allen had it.
Mahomes had it.
I thought Trevor Lawrence had it.
I was wrong there.
But Justin Herbert, I never trusted him.
And I was like, wow, this guy can play, but I never really.
Yeah, I never really bought into him as being the guy in San Diego for a while.
Yeah.
It's just, well, they got him now and he looks pretty good, but I just never really thought
he was going to stick around.
I don't think he's the guy.
He can put up numbers, but that's it.
He's not a Jeff George because he doesn't have a questionable life afterwards that I
know of.
But he's kind of, looks to me, kind of apathetic sometimes or aloof.
Yeah.
And don't get me wrong, he's a baller.
He plays hard and everything.
But I don't think he's that prolific of a guy that could go, all right, guys, we're
going to do this and we're going to do it now.
I don't see him raw, raw on the team.
I don't see him bringing him up.
As a matter of fact, I see him just like playing his role and that's it.
Yeah.
There are people who will step up in a moment like that and lead the charge.
And there are people who will stand around and wish somebody else would step up and lead
the charge.
And Herbert sounds like he's in the second category.
He's like, yeah.
You know, somebody step up and say something motivational and get us all fired up.
He's like, no, you're the quarterback.
You do it.
I don't think he's capable.
At least not right now.
I've got another thing.
This is about the Chess.
Have you ever, not just Kansas City, but have you ever known a team getting motherfucked
so bad in their 4-0?
Oh, it's amazing, isn't it?
Oh, God, yeah.
You'd think that they're 0-4 and everybody is a B player.
I'm hearing that all the time on sports shows.
What's wrong with the Chiefs?
Yeah.
People are happy to give them a reminder.
It's like, we've got to remember their 4-0.
It's like, really?
They're winning weird and ugly and strange, but they're winning.
Well, this goes back to what I said last year and I said this year too.
If a team becomes you, how do you beat that?
Yeah.
They play to their opponent.
I got case in point.
The Super Bowl, what was the one before this year's?
Philadelphia.
It was the Bengals losing to the Rams.
Is that it?
Oh, no, no.
I'm talking about not this Super Bowl, not the one that we won, but the one before against
Philadelphia.
Oh.
Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
Philadelphia breaks it open.
We break it open.
How many times has that happened?
I'm seeing, yeah, I'm seeing what you're saying.
Yeah.
And you would expect Chargers to have a real tough defensive game.
That's exactly what the Chiefsmen didn't get.
Yeah.
Essentially, by design or not, they are becoming their opponent and beating them at their own
game.
You know, and that's something the opponent wouldn't practice for, is a team just like
themselves.
You can't.
Yeah, you can't.
Funny.
Is it brilliant or did they back into it?
Interesting question.
It's working.
We will find this out later on in the year, not right now.
Yeah.
I got nothing but good things to say about them.
Man, that defense is so good right now.
Oh, I know.
And also, here's another thing to think about, too.
Imagine when the offense does catch on.
That's going to be a sight.
It kind of looks like bring on anybody, bring on your best.
Help pick out the best from everybody and bring them here.
We'll fight them.
And we're in the tough half of our schedule right now.
Yeah.
And we're 4-0, which looks pretty good.
Yeah.
And then the second half of the season.
I wouldn't have gave them 4-0 right now, would you?
No.
Well, we did.
We didn't.
Second half of the season, when the offense catches fire and the games start getting easier,
I can just see it just like a snowball rolling downhill, getting bigger and stronger and
faster as it goes.
That's – I would love to see that happening.
Unless they keep mimicking the other team.
Yeah.
At a certain point, just become yourselves.
Just be yourselves and what you do best.
That's what I'm saying.
We're going to find out later exactly what's going on.
But on to this, it appears like that's what's happening, but it's not.
They're playing great defense.
Yep.
And the offense doesn't necessarily have to step up and be the man right now, and they're
not.
The pressure is off the offense to have to score more than like 21, 24 points a game.
Yeah.
Because defense is like, don't worry, we got this.
We're going to keep it close.
Yeah.
So I'm thinking that they're going to eventually get this thing figured out, and I think the
running game is going to have a lot to do with it.
Yeah, it's going to have to.
Yeah.
I really think so.
Well, hey, how, I mean, yeah.
Next up, Cleveland Browns at the Las Vegas Raiders.
What'd you say?
I fell asleep.
Raiders won 20 to 16.
You had it right.
You had 24, 23.
I had it wrong.
I had Cleveland winning 27, 12.
So, we're both tied now with four, I mean, five mistakes.
I knew that was going to happen when I heard them all.
Yep.
All the scores, I'm like, oh man, me and Topher look like shit.
But that's nothing new.
So the Raiders don't look very good.
Is O'Connell?
No.
O'Connell's not their quarterback, isn't it, Minshew?
Minshew.
I'm thinking Antonio Pierce is going to join the hot seat here pretty quick.
I agree.
I think the players, I was trying to go to the team members, the players are starting to lose their infatuation with them because it's just not working.
Yeah.
I remember Devontae Adams saying, look at all the players we have, all the great players, we got all the pieces, why isn't this working?
That's an indictment on the coaching.
Yeah.
And he said that last season when they made the head coaching change and Antonio Pierce came in as the interim head coach.
And that's when he said it, it's like, we got all the parts we need, you know, this should be working kind of thing.
And then it sort of did down the end of the season.
Yeah.
It's not working anymore.
Antonio Pierce, I think, I don't know what kind of interference he gets from Mark Davis as the owner, but it just seems like Antonio Pierce doesn't have it figured out or isn't being allowed to get it figured out.
Yeah.
Mark Davis doesn't seem like the type of guy that go in there and start scuffling with shit.
I know his dad was, Al Davis who was notorious for pulling the strings and making things go his way.
I think Mark Davis took a lesson from that and saw we missed so many opportunities because, you know, dad screwed it up.
So Mark Davis does take a little more hands off approach, but he's got the same demand for excellence.
He's like, we're the Raiders, we're in Las Vegas, we're in this awesome new stadium, we better be damn winning.
They're not.
No.
Pierce is on the hot seat, no doubt.
And as an interim that became head coach, they're easy to fire.
They're really easy to fire.
They're just a gap bridger, that's it.
They're not looked at as very much more.
Yeah.
And then Deshaun Watson.
The Browns.
Oh, gosh.
I don't really have anything good to say about them, do you?
No.
I mean, I thought they were going to be a really good team this year, and they could have been,
but their infatuation with Deshaun Watson is destroying their chances this season.
They kept the wrong guy, and I think the team knows.
I think the team's like, I don't care, Blacko's age, he's much better than Deshaun.
That's okay.
Nope.
That's the Minneapolis.
Deshaun Watson came out in a press conference after the game and answered a question about
being a running quarterback, and he said, no, no, man, I don't do that anymore.
I'm a quarterback.
I'll run if I have to, like if I have to get away, but as far as just calling running plays
and running the ball, no, I don't do that, man.
I'm the quarterback.
Was that what they told him to say?
No.
No, no, no.
That's a fuckup then.
Isn't it?
He's telling the rest of the team, I could do this and help us win, but I'm just not,
because I'm better than that.
I love Mahomes' answer.
This is going to be an indictment really quick.
Yeah.
Okay.
Mahomes is, I scare run.
I run scared.
Yeah.
He runs because he has to.
Deshaun should have said that.
Man, you know, I don't like getting hit.
Hell yeah, I'll run.
Yeah.
You divert the question just a little bit.
Yeah.
That's the smart play, but.
Not that smart, obviously.
Deshaun Watson doesn't seem like he even cares that he's got a career anymore.
No, I don't think he does.
He really doesn't.
And maybe it's because he knows that however much money he makes in the NFL is all going
to be paid to the victims of his crimes anyway.
That's probably part of it.
He's like, why am I busting my ass and getting hit to make millions when I just got to pay
it to everybody who's winning these suits against me?
Yeah.
How motivated would you be?
And then also, I think there's another one.
I keep hearing something about another one coming up that might be like a real clincher.
So we'll see.
Yeah.
With the P. Diddy stuff going on, you've just got to start wondering about who is out there
messing with underage sexual partners.
Yeah.
A lot of people running scared and I love to see them running scared.
A lot of people getting dual citizenship.
Yeah.
But Deshaun Watson, he made some other comment at that same press conference that really
rubbed people the wrong way.
I forget offhand what it was, but he's really unpopular.
Predictions are he's not going to last a month as the starting quarterback.
Yeah.
He never has, has he?
No.
I don't think he's ever finished a season or played every game of the season.
No.
But the damage he's doing to the team as a whole is something they've got to start worrying
about now.
Well, they don't have Flacco to go to now.
No, they've got Jameis Winston, but he was there, as you said, piling on with Watson,
yelling at the offensive line.
I have no respect for that.
No.
That's a guy that comes up and goes, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what he said.
Yeah.
If I was Deshaun, I would say, get the fuck out of here.
Yeah.
As long as my big brother is here to enforce, I'm going to say all the things.
Yeah.
It's like, no, no, no.
Know your role.
Yeah.
It's over there.
You see that bench?
That's your role.
Cleveland, man, they were so good in the 50s and 60s, and ever since then, they've just
been falling apart.
They get sorta good and fall apart.
Sorta good and fall apart.
Whenever you take a dump, what's the color?
Brown.
Yeah, we can move on.
Actually, there is actually no light wave wavelength that is brown.
Yeah.
Brown is actually just dark orange.
But we give it a different name, because it just looks different to us.
It's like magenta.
There's no real magenta.
That's just equal amounts of red and blue, and our brain can't quite figure it out, so
we come up with this color in our own heads that doesn't really have a light wavelength.
It's kinda like Skittles.
They're all the same flavor.
Yeah.
But you see a green one, you're like, oh, that's really good lime.
No, it isn't.
Fruit loops.
Yeah, fruit loops.
They're all the same flavor.
Oh, here's a fun thing to do.
Get a giant candy dish and put in M&M's, Reese's Pieces, and Skittles, and mix them all up.
You have a handful, and you have no idea what you're putting in your mouth.
And there's no way to separate them out again.
There was this donor food growing up that Burger King sold all these at once.
Fried cauliflower, fried mushrooms, onion rings, maybe fried okra or something.
Oh, I love fried okra.
It's called Munch-A-Bunch.
You buy an order or two of each one of them.
You take a big bag, shake it all up, and then everyone just grabs in there like popcorn.
Oh, yeah.
It was donor food.
Hot, crunchy, salty.
Oh, yeah.
You didn't know what it was.
It was just all the cheap stuff they had lying around.
They just batter it up and fry it.
Yeah.
You know?
Like cauliflower, we can get 30 bucks as app for one buck.
Let's put flour on them and fry it.
Yeah.
KFC did that with what they started calling their famous bowls.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, the first day they introduced them, when nobody had ever heard of them before,
they introduced them as their famous bowls.
Okay, who are they famous men?
Oh, it's just a name.
That's right.
But here's what they put in them, like about five cents worth of food.
Mashed potatoes, which is super cheap.
Corn, super cheap.
Gravy, super cheap.
And then all the little scraps of chicken that come off during the trimming, et cetera.
They batter those up and fry them.
Super cheap.
And that was in a bowl they sold for over five bucks.
That was amazing.
That's brilliant.
And they sold you like 15 cents worth of scrap food and you paid five bucks for it.
And people probably run around and go, this is the best deal ever.
Look at all that food.
Uh-huh.
It's because it's loaded with fat and salt and your tongue says yum and your brain says,
okay.
You're going to be visiting a cardiologist here pretty soon.
Yes.
Of course you won't be able to afford it because you spend all your money on fast food.
Yeah, true.
Bad things ahead for Cleveland.
Yeah.
Flatline.
Flatline of the year, Cleveland.
So Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are probably going to be fighting for the division.
That's the way it looks.
Yeah.
Must be much for Tennessee.
Buffalo at Baltimore.
Boy, we both got that wrong, Big.
Oh boy.
Actual score, Baltimore 35 to 10.
You said 28, 20 bills.
I said 30 to 17 bills.
Oops.
We suck.
We do.
Man, Buffalo just stumped the place up.
Where was Von Miller?
Nowhere to be found.
No, Crickets.
He's 35, 36 years old.
That's what you're going to get off and on.
And Baltimore scored what, five touchdowns.
Yeah.
Five.
Not three, even five.
Did they set the template on how you beat the Bills?
Looks like it.
Yeah.
I think everyone's going to study that game plan really well.
Yeah.
Just the week before, the Bills put up 47 points on Jacksonville.
Yeah.
It stomped the hell out of them.
So now we know how bad Jacksonville really is.
If Baltimore can shut down the Bills, Jacksonville should have been able to.
Yeah.
Yikes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, the Ravens are good, and they are probably, once again, our main competition, so it looks.
So glad we won that head-to-head match.
Yeah.
That's going to play volumes later on.
Oh, yeah.
The Ravens are now two and two, which is respectable.
Their schedule's rough, but I see them winning a majority of them, so we will probably see
them later, hopefully here at Arrowhead.
Yeah.
The Ravens seem like the most complete team outside of Kansas City.
Yeah, definitely.
I can see that.
Derrick Henry's definitely catching on.
Yeah.
He's starting to run like, okay, I'm familiar with this line.
I know what I'm doing.
He's also mid-30s.
Yeah.
So, I don't know how much they want to run him right now.
Yeah, he's the kind of player you start curtailing his reps, putting the games in hand, and save
them for later in the season in the playoffs.
But then again, Jackson, you can't run him too much.
Yeah.
Lamar Jackson, you can't run him too much either.
So I don't know if they necessarily have a problem, but I think they've got to balance
everything just right.
Yeah.
Finding a change-up running back to compliment Derrick Henry, I think, would be an excellent
choice.
Kimball Anders.
Oh, yeah.
You know his number?
There you go.
Yeah, he was good.
Yeah, he was.
He fit him about anywhere.
Donnell Bennett.
Donnell Bennett was another good one.
Yeah.
He led the Chiefs in rushing one season as a fullback.
Harvey Williams?
Oh, wait a minute.
No.
I forgot.
That dude had a long neck, didn't he?
Oh my God, yeah.
He looked like a snapping turtle, his neck was so long.
There's a 49ers player that has a super long neck, and he wore really low shoulder pads
that sent you in.
Yeah, yeah.
Who was that?
Was it Myron Guyton?
That sounds like it.
That sounds like the name, but man, you just show him.
It was like, dude, that guy's like three times the neck that a normal person would.
Yeah.
I mean-
Was your mama a giraffe?
I would wear like a turtleneck.
Yeah.
Shoulder pads.
Something.
Shoulder pads probably.
So, man, Buffalo looks like they got a... The best Buffalo can do is just say, all right,
anomaly, don't know what happened, forget it, let's move on, we're better than that.
Well, McDermott to me seems like a really good coach up to a point.
I think that he can coach at a high level, but at the highest level, I think he gets
out-coached.
Yeah.
Same a little bit with John Harbaugh too, but not as obvious and not as frequent.
And just like the other team is looking for the limitations of your players, they're looking
for the limitations of your coach, your coordinators, all that.
Quite simply, why could he have not changed that up a little bit, McDermott?
Too stubborn, unwilling to relinquish authority, unwilling to take suggestion, who knows?
Maybe you free up the passing game a little bit to quell the running game or put in a
different set of players.
When you see it failing to work and failing to work quarter after quarter and you don't
make a significant realistic change, you got to start worrying about the head coach.
I mean, how many years has it been since we got blown out?
I don't know if we really got blown out underneath Andy Reid's realm.
Man, it's...
Years.
Yeah.
Why is that?
We've always been in every game.
Why is that?
We're a complete team.
Well, also the coaching.
Yeah, the coaching adapts and adjusts.
If someone's doing something really well, you got Spagnolo and Reid going, all right,
what do we need to do to stop this?
Yeah.
Being the kind of coach that's going to be like, oh, I'm going to stop this.
I'm going to stop this.
Yeah, being the kind of coach who can have a handful of plays that you're going to use
in certain situations and probably later in the game, and you don't tip your hand early.
Yeah.
Not all coaches can think that way.
I mean, it's kind of like being a chess player.
That's why I always suck at chess.
I can't think three, four moves ahead.
I can't hold that many possibilities in my head.
But I'll bet you that whatever skill makes people good chess players also would make
them a good head coach.
It just kind of seems like that kind of brain.
Yeah, you're right.
I think also is kind of like Luffy, if you say.
You find out in the interim what stops them good enough to where they drop the game that's
killing them.
Yes.
I've seen that happen so many times under Reid.
Yeah.
And that's a good point.
You don't want to use any more than you have to to shut something down.
No, just enough to shut it down.
Because if you use too much force in that area, you're leaving a gap somewhere else.
You always got to figure you've got only so much on the field at once, and however much
you put over there, you're not going to have over here.
And Reid has an advantage.
Ten to nothing games, ten point games.
Yeah.
Mahomes is 18 to no.
That's something else.
So he doesn't let him get past ten.
That other team knows that.
And that's in their head.
They're going, oh, my God, we're going to lose this.
And they're behind.
Or they're already ahead.
They're already ahead.
But they've already given up.
It's like we're not we're ahead, but we're not enough ahead.
Yeah.
So yeah, that's kind of nice.
Buffalo is going to be there, of course, but how good they are, I think, is seriously in
question.
Yeah.
We'll keep watching as the season goes along to see whether they're looking like a realistic
playoff team or somebody who's going to be, you know, one and done in the playoffs.
Some of their newer receivers are getting blown up at the line pretty bad.
Yeah.
That's part of the, you know, the learning curve, too.
And they've needed receivers, what, two years now?
Yeah, two years now.
And they're still having trouble there.
They got rid of Diggs.
But I think Diggs is a malcontent, and I think it does probably the right move.
But anyhow, and they traded us a draft pick so we could get worthy again.
Really Buffalo, what are you doing?
Thank you.
But what are you doing?
I'll bet you their sports talk scene was alive that day.
Oh, God.
What the hell are they doing?
They probably heard them in my hometown next door Rochester, New York.
Yeah, probably did.
Yes.
I was born in Rochester, New York, never been back.
Don't plan to.
I've been up there.
I learned Saturday night, Friday night or Saturday night, I was tapping in on a text
conversation between my brother John and my sister Jennifer, who survived the hurricane
just fine down in Florida.
She said they had a windy day, but that was about it.
The people on the coast had a much worse time.
Was she on the Atlantic side?
She's in Orlando.
Oh, okay.
Right in the middle of the state, right where Disney World is.
Yeah.
So my brother John said he was considering moving to Europe when he retires because he
can't afford Seattle on his retirement, but he can afford Spruce Grove, which is just
outside of Edmonton, Alberta in Canada.
Nice.
I looked it up on the map.
It's like right out in the middle of a prairie.
The mountains are like an hour drive away or whatever.
But he said if they sell everything and move there, his retirement and his wife will keep
working and they can have a pretty nice life there.
If they stayed in Seattle, they'd run out of money within like three years.
That's the difference in how expensive it is, a small town outside of Edmonton versus
a small town outside of Seattle.
Wow.
No wonder the mass transit's free there.
Nobody can afford it.
Yeah.
Oh, no, no.
It was three bucks.
Forget it.
I forgot.
So, Brother Mark, who's living in South Africa, I'm probably never going to visit unless I
can take a boat because I just don't like being on the airplane for that long.
But my other brother and I-
You're talking about 10 hours?
Yeah, at least.
12 maybe?
I think you fly to London first and have a layover.
Oh, you're talking 13 or 14 hours in.
But Edmonton, Alberta, hell, I'll drive up there, no problem.
Oh, heck yeah.
I can't wait to go visit them.
If you go the right way, it's a beautiful drive.
Yeah, I'm bad.
So, they're basically going to be-
No, no, no.
We know we're going to have noise here.
We come down here for the noise.
Why are you doing live, man?
Yeah, you got anything to say?
What did you say about what's your program about?
This is sports right now.
Yeah, we're doing, we just wrapped up last week and then we're going to take a break
and then do predictions for next week.
But right now, we're talking about Canada.
For no apparent reason.
Yeah, my brother's going to move there.
But I don't know a lot of soccer.
The other football.
The other, yeah.
The real football.
Yes, we have football and American football.
I don't know anything about ed sports, but I can tell you something cool.
I'm from the Dominican Republic.
My husband is from Costa Rica and the little one is from Panama.
Nice, excellent.
Dominican, then you recognize this.
The Royals have a huge presence in there.
Yes, they do.
Look at the size.
You're a big fan of the Dominican Republic.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of the Dominican Republic.
I'm a big fan of the Dominican Republic.
All right, we have two more games to go, the two Monday night games, which I guess that
was the last of the double Monday night games.
It looks like it.
First one.
I'm saying okay, whatever that was.
Yeah, maybe it's just not working.
First one was Tennessee at Miami.
Actual score, 31-12 Tennessee.
We both got it right.
You were 28-20 and I was 30-17.
Wait a minute.
I'm looking at the wrong line.
Like me a couple episodes ago when I'm reading off another team stats.
I need more coffee in.
As soon as we take our break after this, unless you want to pause it, I'll get some coffee
for us.
That's all right.
So it was 31-12 Tennessee and we both got it correct.
You had 35-10, which is super close, and I had 27-13, which was a little close but not
as close.
So yeah, we both got that right.
Miami just looks like they are a wreck.
They don't know what to do.
They can't really do anything.
Teams are having just enormous amounts of success against them.
Wow.
What's Miami going to do?
They need to scrap the season and look for another quarterback.
Drafting, probably, most likely.
The problem is Hill is probably not going to be a big factor in that.
If they do try to re-sign him, they can't do it for the same amount of money because
how old is he now?
35, something like that?
Sounds right.
Because he was on the team before my homes.
Yes.
Like a year before, two years.
Yeah, two years.
So he was the same draft class as Kelsey, wasn't he?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
He was.
So he came out primarily as a kickoff guy.
Kickoff returner, punt returner.
Yeah.
And he gave him a running back number, 10.
Yeah, which confuses people.
It's like, how come Pacheco got a no, no, no, no?
That's not what happened.
They need to draft that next guy.
Mike McDaniels, I think, is the guy to nurture him and do what needs to be done.
I like Mike McDaniels a lot.
I didn't used to like him.
I think he's a pretty fine coach right now.
Yeah, he was subject to a lot of ridicule early because of his appearance and he used
to be a ball boy, I think, at the Niners.
Yeah, they used to give him grief.
Hey, ball boy!
They pulled out some old pictures of him as a teenager with pimples and it's like, this
isn't right.
Everybody had...
Yeah.
It's just stupid.
No, no, no.
The thing that got me was on TikTok his dancing to rap.
Oh, yeah.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Dude, listen.
You gotta remember, you put it on the internet, it's there forever.
You may have a good tan, but you're still white.
Stop.
So anyhow.
Yeah, I think realistically the best a Miami can hope for this season is...
Oh, hang on, hang on.
I'm white, so I can say that.
Oh, yes.
Okay, go ahead.
I think realistically Miami, the best they can hope for this season is Tua comes back
late in the year and is kind of okay, but really I don't think he should come back this
year and even if he comes back whenever, he's one hit away from retiring on the spot.
I mean, you've got to look at him as...
He's one hit away from maybe CTE if he doesn't already have it with the amount of concussions
he had.
Here's what I think you do.
This is my version.
Okay, we're drafting so and so.
Go over there, talk to him.
See what's going on.
We're moving up to number one, so we made a deal.
We're number one.
We're drafting this guy.
Fly down there.
I think that's permitted, isn't it?
I mean, he's a player.
I would think.
I would think so.
I mean, it's a draft.
You fly to wherever you need to and you have Tua talk to him and say, hey, let's go over
some passes.
Let's go over some defenses.
You might do that with two or three guys and you help him make you the decision of who's
going to be his successor.
I think Tua has a low enough ego like Alex Smith did to where he would be able to do
something like that knowing he's not going to be the man.
Yeah, help the team pick someone who Tua can teach.
Yes.
Tua starts from that day.
He comes back and he goes, this guy right here is the one we should get.
Him and I have a really good rapport.
We talk to each other very well.
He understands.
He was making improvements as we sat there.
Yeah, that'd be a great plan.
Yeah, and don't run head first into a defender.
Yeah, always slide.
Yeah, he'll snap your neck.
Trust me, son.
Yeah.
So yeah, anyhow, go ahead.
Didn't really have any more takeaways from Miami, Tennessee.
I mean, there's really nothing else.
Tennessee, I don't think we should believe that Tennessee is that good.
We should just believe that Miami is that bad.
I agree.
Yeah.
All right, last game was Seattle at Detroit.
Detroit won 42 to 29, high scoring.
But Seattle came back in the game until late.
Yeah.
Seattle gave them a fight.
Geno Smith is kind of getting exposed whenever you come in and rush him.
He's not nearly the quarterback he is when he gets to be in the pocket.
Yeah, he's not a young man either as quarterbacks go.
No.
I think that the Lions are good combined with Seattle being good, but not real good.
Yeah.
Seattle will probably make the playoffs, but I don't see them winning very many.
Yeah.
I see Detroit probably being in the championship game.
I see Seattle being in the wild card.
Yeah.
Unless they win their division, they could win their, well, I don't know, Sam Fran's
going to get it.
Niner's probably going to win the division.
Yeah, they'll find a way to do it.
So they'll probably be a wild card and they might win that first one.
They're not winning the second one.
I mean, their new coach seems to be quite adequate.
I like him.
So anyhow.
Well, you had a Detroit 24-20, so you had a closer game.
I had Seattle winning 21-17.
You picked Seattle?
I did pick Seattle.
Okay.
So I got seven wrong and you got six wrong.
There's nothing to brag about, Tofer.
About the best thing we can say is there aren't as many games this week because there's some
teams on a buy.
Here's my bragging rights on that.
Raw.
That's it.
All right.
So you want to go into some bullet points?
Sure.
All right.
Let's see.
Let's bullet some points.
First bullet point.
The Chiefs are now a run first offense according to the stats.
They have the most success with the running game according to the numbers.
Was this by design or was it simply is just what's working?
I think it's just what's working.
I agree.
I think they intended to have by this time of the season, I would think they wanted my
homes to have about 800 yards, 900 yards passing between Brown and Rice.
They would have the majority of that, but it just hadn't worked out this way.
And fortunately we have depth at running back and the line can block for that.
It's just, it's what's working now because the rest isn't quite working.
It's only going to work as long as the passing game is respected.
I'm going to back you up on that.
The return of the downfield game, the return of the long pass is what this was dubbed as.
Now we're running offense.
They're doing what's going.
Yeah.
That's it.
They're doing what's going until they figure out something else to do or someone stops
them.
Yeah.
It looks like Rice and Brown are probably out for the season.
They keep Hemming and Hawn saying they're not going to find out about Rice until next
week.
I don't know if that's good or bad.
I don't know.
Either way he's out for a substantial, even if it isn't torn, he's out for a substantial
amount of time either way.
Yeah.
He's not going to be the same runner until next year.
Yeah.
Not the beginning of next year.
Sometime during the season next year.
About the time he gets a suspension.
Oh God.
Yeah.
I'm counting on him being gone two years.
You might as well find his replacement for a while.
You go out there and you find that guy you think can fill the void, you get him right
now.
The trade deadline's coming up like you said.
Yeah.
We got to do something.
Yeah.
I mean it seemed to work out so well that Rice was going to be able to play this whole season
and then to get the legal stuff done during the off season.
But now it's like, well we'll lose this season and probably next season too.
So if he's out football for two years straight, he's not going to be the same guy.
No, no, no.
He's just not.
This goes along with what Belichick would say when he's asked about three people.
He's like, you know, he said, it's really hard to do in the NFL.
This is what he's alluding to.
This right here.
Injury, suspension, stuff like that.
All we need is one bad injury and it's not the same as we just saw.
Yeah.
And if Rice is on suspension, it's not like my homes can go work with him during the suspension
year.
He has to completely avoid.
I agree.
Yeah.
It could, it could, this looks like this year is kind of really important because next season
is not going to be quite as good.
This year he could have got 1500 yards.
Yeah.
That was within rhythm.
And then he's an elite.
Then he serves a suspension for six games.
You have a ride in his ass right back out.
I'm saying six games.
Yeah.
So.
I would say, yeah, nobody died to six games.
Six games.
Although I don't respect what he did at all.
Even people forget.
He had no idea.
Yeah.
He was just jamming it up and giggling with his buddies.
Yeah.
So anyhow.
All right.
I have one bullet point.
A document was leaked showing that Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift had agreed on a breakup
date of September 28th.
Seriously?
Yeah.
Keep in mind that the day I was reading this was September 30th.
Boy, they didn't announce it.
The way the article was written was Kelsey and Swift have apparently agreed that they
will no longer be dating as of September 28th.
And in fact, they haven't been seen together since that day.
It's like, dude, that was 48 hours ago.
Here's the problem.
They both have successful careers.
Yes.
It's not always good to jive.
Yeah.
And they know this.
I'm pretty sure that this is an AI written clickbait.
Probably.
Because it knows I'm a Chiefs fan and it knows I'm talking and thinking about football.
It heard you cussing at the screen.
Yeah.
So it just brought this ridiculous crap up just to get me to click on it and read their
ads.
Yep.
Which I didn't.
Good.
All right.
Is that it on it?
That was it.
Okay.
That was pretty entertaining though.
And that's not beyond the realm of anything that could happen.
Yeah.
Could happen very easily.
It was one of those AI hallucinations.
Yes.
We have learned that AI hallucinates.
Yeah.
And that's how they come up with this crazy shit like buttered sausage.
Yeah.
It was an ad I heard this morning.
It was a company that advertising their own version of a generative AI.
And they were proudly saying that it could give hallucination free results.
That was in their ad copy.
So not only is it a real big thing, they're talking about it openly enough to say, hey,
we figured out how to keep the hallucinations out.
Yeah.
So don't worry.
So apparently all AI's hallucinate their butts off.
And you've got to weed out the hallucinations.
That's half the shit we see on Facebook.
That's funny.
Those weird AI stuff.
It's just their hallucinations.
OK.
AI hallucinate.
And we want to turn the world over to them.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
So I wonder if the AI driving your car is going to hallucinate.
Ooh.
That's kind of scary to think about.
That is.
Well, we're certainly going to find out.
Yeah.
All right.
Done.
All right.
The new kickoff system, is it working or is it not working?
Is it working or is it a dud?
Both.
It's working.
It's doing what it was designed to do, which is keep players safe.
But it's a total dud.
It is boring as hell.
Nobody cares anymore.
It used to be like, hey, they're getting ready to kick off.
Everyone would come in and huddle around the TV.
You know, they got a wing in their hand and they got half of the potato salad they're going
to get.
Now it's like, OK.
They might as well just do it during the commercial.
Yeah.
They don't have to see that ugly mess.
Yeah.
They could come back after Jake from State Farm and they could go, all right.
They ended up at the 35 yard line.
Yeah.
And it'll be like, OK, thanks.
And I know I sound like a broken record, but if this new football kickoff rule is something
that's easier to gamble on, they'll keep it.
Oh, exactly.
If it turns out to be something people just don't care enough to gamble on, they'll change
it.
No, I don't think it's working like that.
It doesn't seem like people are really caring about it that much.
What is there to bet on on a kickoff return?
Who's going to return it?
Because there are usually two returners back there.
Where they catch it on the field will be a touchback.
If they return it, how far?
Those are the four basic things you can bet on during a kickoff.
But now it's just fair catch after fair catch after fair catch.
Yeah, I feel like it's like, oh, huh.
Yeah.
I agree with you 100%.
It's doing what it's designed to do, but it's boring as hell.
And like I said, I used to run out there to see the kickoffs and the punts.
I'd be like in there grabbing the potato salad.
And oh, man, where'd I put that buffalo dip at?
And that was such a great feeling.
The other team scores, and then you get the kickoff, and you run it right back for a score
or you roll, and you're like, take that.
That's like never happening.
It's not going to happen anymore.
Yeah.
It also takes a team.
Oh, we did not touch on this.
Chief's special teams.
Oh, yeah.
Superior.
I mean, they could not have played a better game.
They nailed Los Angeles within the five yard line how many times?
I know.
They kept them stifled.
They kept them on their side of the field.
And it used to be every special teams play, the Chiefs would get called for blocking in the back.
And they've really got a hold on that now.
They've really taken care of that.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
It is awesome.
It's great seeing special teams in our new punter.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Oh.
So anyhow, it's working, but it's a done.
So.
Yeah.
But our special teams are spot on.
It is.
Our special teams have learned how to navigate through this new one, and they're doing very well.
So they can't run it back.
And we know.
Yeah.
All right.
Next bullet point.
Caleb Williams buys a 12 million dollar mansion in Chicago.
Foolish?
Too soon?
Oh, man.
He better really love the city of Chicago because if he winds up not playing his career there, then that's still his house.
The guy has talent, but it's not being accentuated with the team and people know it.
Yeah.
Is he going to end up like another Justin Fields?
Has talent.
We know him.
We've seen flashes.
He's not getting the nurturing.
In the good old days, a quarterback who had talent and wasn't flashy and wasn't all that great could have a long career.
Yeah.
Now you just don't.
No.
There's no patience for that anymore.
Nope.
And another thing is this right here.
I think that he bought it knowing that that property is just going to rise in value anyhow.
True.
So if he moves somewhere, he moves somewhere.
He'll put it up for sale.
Yeah.
And then probably the area of Chicago where he bought it, a 12 million dollar house isn't all that big.
Probably on the north shore.
It's probably about a four bedroom, three bathroom house.
Not much bigger than say your house and my house combined.
Yeah.
That's probably about all it is.
But you hear the number 12 million and think some giant palatial estate.
Yeah.
There in Chicago, especially the north part is very affluent.
Yeah.
And you're not going to get a whole lot of house for that, like you said.
So yeah.
I think he did it as a statement too, like I'm here and we're going to win.
True.
Yeah.
It's a very safe thing to do because as you said, he'll get every penny back.
Yeah.
And then more so he's not worried about it.
Yeah.
All right.
Should refs, next bullet point.
Yeah.
This one I love.
Okay.
Should refs be allowed to ask for signed jerseys and other fandom things?
No.
Exactly.
No, no, no, no.
It's bullshit.
Even though Patrick Mahomes has a following of refs that follow him around like Brady did.
Panting and loving on him.
Yeah.
No.
Feeding the flames, aren't they?
Yeah.
Geez.
You tell me that you love this guy and he just cracked a bunch of jokes and gave your
kid a jersey.
And then you're going to make the call that takes the game away from him.
No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah.
That's such a bad look for the NFL.
Oh, it is.
And it surprises me.
I guess I'm out of touch, but with the advent of all this sports betting, I would think
they'd be going out of their way to look honest and fair and straightforward, but they're
not.
It's like they're flaunting the fact that, hey, we're fixing games.
The refs are in love with these certain players.
Who cares?
You're going to bet anyway.
On the same token, though, I love the thought that Mahomes watched Brady and he's emulating
him.
Yeah.
The greatest player ever.
What did he do?
Oh.
He went up and schmoozed all the officials.
Yeah.
But I'd like to add that Mahomes is that nice of a guy.
Yeah.
I mean, look at Henry Winkler.
He's like, hey, gave him a jersey.
Let him stand on the sideline just because he said he is a fan and he loved the guy and
everything.
He's like, hey, come on down.
So he should start schmoozing the other owners, too, because some of those owners are on the
competition committee, which is incredibly powerful, or the committee that negotiates
the TV contracts, enormously powerful.
I think that has saved several owners from being forced out of the league from their
own personal crimes is that they were on these really important committees that were making
the league a ton of money.
So I was like, yeah, we'll sweep that under the rug.
So if Mahomes can go out there and schmooze those guys, that would be good for Casey.
I think that's already going on.
Oh, I'm sure it is.
Because there has been some pictures of him where the owners are on the field talking
to him, and they're kind of like fucking marking out to the guy going, hey, yeah, yeah.
The respect they have for the guy, it commands him to talk to him.
Who I'd like to see Mahomes sucking up to and being friends with is the owners who are
on the committee that negotiate the players contract.
Yeah.
That would be helpful to all the players.
It's like, hey, man, cut us a break next time.
Hey, here's a couple of jerseys.
Yeah.
Hey, is your son here?
I'm going to throw him a couple of passes.
You going to fund our retirement fund now?
Whatever you say, Pat.
Yep.
Don't call me Pat.
That's my dad.
He's getting ready to go to jail.
Leave me the fuck alone.
Yeah, I read that the other day.
He's about ready to start serving his time.
Well, you know what, man, you can only do so much.
And that's it.
And like the guy that I met down in Galveston that actually had pictures of his son playing
baseball with the young Patrick Mahomes.
Yeah.
He said that Pat Senior's a really nice guy, but he was a little wild.
Yeah.
One of the things I didn't understand about his sentencing, they're taking his license
away for a year, but at the same time, they're putting a breathalyzer device in his car.
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
It's like, wait a minute.
If he can't drive for a year, why the hell are you doing that?
Are you just expecting him to drive on a suspended license?
No, I know.
Yeah.
That just didn't make sense.
Oh, you can't drive your car, but we're going to modify your car so when you do drive it,
you can't drive a drug.
I think even Texas is harder as they are on laws like that.
I think even they're like, hey, this is Patrick Mahomes' father, okay?
This kind of looks bad.
It's gone from your license is suspended, so don't drive, to your license is suspended,
so don't get caught driving too many times.
I think so, too.
That's what it's turned into.
It's like, oh, suspended?
I can still go get caught three or four times.
I can drive 100 times.
I just got caught three or four times before they really get serious about it.
Yeah, then they're going to get after him.
Yeah.
Okay.
I've only heard one reporter ask about that.
Good, just one.
And he said, it's a family matter.
It's going to stay like that.
Never saw him again.
No one else asked.
I think that they did that on purpose.
They had this guy go in there and say, hey, go ask that question so we can get it on record
for everyone else.
Yeah.
It probably wasn't even a reporter.
It was something from the PR department.
That's what I think it was, too.
I think it was like, cut this right now.
Now, that guy come out and ask me, and then I'm going to shut him down.
You're never going to see him again, and that's going to be a warning.
Yeah.
And they may even know it was set up, but they don't have to say anything.
Yeah.
So, all right.
Bullet point.
Are we done with that?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Next bullet point.
Carolina showed some life with the Red Rocket.
Should they keep him or try to figure out Bryce Young?
Man, I would say keep Andy Dalton.
He's working.
As a starter.
Yeah, yeah.
Right now, definitely.
And then have him mentor.
And if Bryce Young can take the mentoring good, if he can't, then you're going to have
to find somebody who can mentor him or get rid of him.
This is what I thought was going on anyhow.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
He was bitching and complaining about being benched, which is a problem.
He should have looked at it as a learning opportunity.
If he would have done that, everyone would have been like, okay, we think he's the guy.
Let him sit back and learn.
Yeah.
He got thrown into a horrible system and a horrible team.
Oh, yeah.
So, if it's going to work out, it's going to work out with the Red Rocket.
Andy Dalton is a good quarterback.
Yeah.
He's very capable of teaching a younger quarterback the ropes.
Yeah.
So, we're going to find out Bryce Young without finding out Bryce Young.
Yeah.
And for Bryce Young, if you look at the benching as either I didn't play well enough and that's
why I got benched, so I'm not going to complain, or I wasn't given the opportunity, but this
is how they have to do it to please the fans and everybody, so I'm just going to suck it
up and take it for the team.
Well, him griping about it did not help him at all.
No, no, that was not one of the options.
You got to be humble.
You got to be like, you know, I have a lot to learn.
On the outside, but in the inside.
Inside you may be pissed.
Be whatever you want, yeah.
But you don't show your hand.
It's like, yeah, I understand it and I agree with the coach.
I do.
I have a lot to learn.
I'm working on it, and I guarantee you this, I'm going to give it my best shot every time
I'm out there.
Yeah.
All those catchphrases that the sports reporters eat up, they never ask for anything meaningful
or substantial.
They're always ready to hear, well, next man up or give it my all or it's a team effort.
They just eat that crap up even though we've all heard it a million times.
That's all you have to say.
It's the same tired old catchphrases that everyone else says.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And then in private, go complain.
Go find a homeless guy in the park, buy him a sandwich, and then complain to him.
Yes, that's it right there.
Okay, next bullet point is... Okay, this one, I love this question the best out of all of
them.
I was on a roll that night writing this out.
The NFL owners that aren't producing for years, should they be fined or threatened to have
to sell?
Yes.
I agree too.
The ones that aren't trying say, hey, come here, you've had this team like this and you
don't seem to give a shit.
Yeah.
We do.
I think the dream scenario for the NFL is that all 32 teams are competitive every year
and within a four or five year span, every team makes the playoffs a one time during
those years.
So everybody's, oh well, we are so close.
Everyone's so close.
No one wants to hear that.
That's what the NFL would love because that would churn all this interest.
But it seems like Arizona that's been a dud for years.
Yeah.
And Carolina's been a dud for years.
Detroit was a dud for decades and they just let it slide.
But I'm thinking of it like this though.
I agree with what, okay, you've got to start questioning people.
Like Jerry Jones, you'd have to say, you have to butt out.
Yeah.
Okay, but then you go to like maybe Carolina and say, you need to have better control.
Yeah.
Because Carolina and Arizona both can point to a couple of draft picks.
They can go, Kyler Murray, we tried, this guy was a poor man's matriarchal home, so
we tried.
And then you go to Bryce Young, man, do you see that guy in college?
You see?
True.
So that would indicate that they're trying.
Yeah, that's true.
And that's where the NFL can come in and go, we think you need to do this.
Maybe you ought to seek out this kind of an option.
It's good to remember that all of these individual teams, they are franchises of the center of
business.
Exactly.
It's like every Sonic you go to is a franchise.
They don't own Sonic.
They own that franchise of Sonic.
Yeah.
And the Kansas City Chiefs is a franchise of the NFL and the ownership of the NFL is
everybody and everybody get together and they can tell one owner, you have to do it different
because we control the, you're just a franchise owner.
Like a franchise.
And you have to follow the franchise rules.
That's right.
McDonald's, let's say a Caglamore, we call them Caglamore Day.
Yeah.
They own 30 McDonald's.
They can't go rogue and sell ham and cheese sandwiches.
No.
Because McDonald's says you cannot.
They can't lower the price below what other McDonald's are selling food for because corporate
says no.
Yeah.
So yeah, NFL corporate needs to step in and say to these franchises, you could be making
so much more money and everybody would be doing better, but you're coasting.
So we're both on board with that.
Yeah.
I think that would be the smart play.
Doesn't Major League Baseball have some teams that just never win?
Yeah, but they got an excuse.
Yeah, they don't have revenue sharing.
No.
The Royals have a great excuse.
We've got a tenth of the salary of anybody else.
Yeah.
So, anyhow.
All right.
Next bullet point.
Are there teams out there just trying to make as much money without regard to winning?
Yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
Everything that we just said.
I think Jerry Jones is kind of leaning that way.
Carolina definitely.
Arizona, I think they're just not trying as hard as they could.
I think even Indianapolis wants to be good with Matt Ryan and then I forgot who was before
that.
They just keep having the end of career guys coming in there.
Andrew Luck.
Oh, Andrew Luck was quite a while ago.
That was the last time they tried.
They shipped off Peyton Manning.
Andrew Luck was there.
Who was there?
I can't remember who was there.
But did the Ursay family still own the Colts?
I believe so.
Because they were notorious for being really tight with a buck and they didn't want to
spend any more than is absolutely necessary.
Yeah.
So I think the Ursay family go to them and say, hey, we think that you're just trying
to make money.
And I know this coincides with the last question, but it's a little bit more direct.
They're just trying to generate money and that's it.
I think it's more indictment of teams like Cincinnati.
Yeah.
Or not Cincinnati, Indianapolis.
Yeah.
Yeah, sorry.
But yeah, the Chiefs from about 73 till about 89, they were being run by Jack Stedman, the
general manager, just as a money making business and he didn't give a damn about wins or losses.
He was a numbers guy.
Yeah.
Had no idea how football was played.
He didn't know the ins or outs.
He never scouted talent.
He just like complete business side of it and the rest of it, he just left it to whoever.
Who else has been run that way?
There's quite a few of them.
Let me think here.
It didn't seem like Houston was trying for the long time.
The Houston Texans, they were just coasting and coasting.
No, not until they drafted Deshaun Watson really high.
It doesn't seem like they really were going after the guy.
They're just kind of getting their footing and just going, let's generate some revenue.
I think they're trying now.
They picked up digs.
They have Stroud.
They picked up mixing.
They're definitely trying now, but I think for years they didn't even try.
Yeah.
Cincinnati had a stretch like that too under Marvin Lewis as head coach where they just
really weren't trying.
Marvin Lewis, God bless him, was getting the most he could out of everybody and actually
had some playoff runs in there.
Oh, I know.
Did he retire?
He's one of the best head coaches.
If you look at his body of work and what he got done with who?
I think he's on the staff of another team.
Okay.
I think I read that.
Yeah.
There's a lot of teams doing that and I think that it needs to...
It's a real bad look.
Yeah.
If the fans figure out that this team isn't really trying, then...
Nobody cares?
Yeah.
They're always going to buy the merchandise.
No one's going to bet on their games.
It's lost revenue.
Well, I've got a point for you right here.
Yeah.
Okay.
I told you about going to Lake of the Ozarks because our event was rained out, right?
So the Mozart Fest was rained out.
That bar right there, the Chiefs Bar, it very well could have been a Cowboys Bar.
No, yeah.
10 years ago, 15 years.
You went down to Southern Missouri, they're all Cowboys fans.
Yeah.
Why is that?
Because they were America's team.
Yeah.
They were a reliable winner.
Yeah.
And they're safe to wear their stuff.
Yeah.
They're always in upper echelon somehow, some way, right?
Yeah.
That's an interesting point.
If you don't have a lot of money to spend on merchandise, you don't want to pick a loser.
Yeah.
No.
I'm not going to pick a loser.
I'm going to pick a loser.
Yeah, no.
I was saying about that when I was there.
I was like thinking, 10 years ago, someone else would own this and it would have been
a Dallas Cowboys Bar and it would have been full of people.
Yeah.
When I was working at the post office, there were a lot of people I worked with that were
big Cowboys fans.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I imagine anymore they're starting to fade off because it's just exhausting to keep rooting
for the same team every year.
They keep getting your ass kicked every year.
Yeah.
All right.
Next one.
I guess we're done with that, right?
Yeah.
18 game season for the NFL.
Hang on.
They're ringing on the tank in the crowd control.
Yeah, they are.
Yes.
So it's got a flame thrower.
Oh, they got tear gas.
Yeah.
Oh, is that a tear gas?
I thought it was a flame thrower.
Oh, they got that too, brother.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
They're going to tear gas this and then burn us up.
Oh, okay.
That way we can't run away.
Yeah.
Great strategy.
Plus, if they burn us enough, no one can identify the bodies.
They're going to let us know.
Yeah.
They're going to let us know.
Yeah.
They'll see my titanium knee that I spoke about earlier.
That's about it.
Yeah.
Okay.
18 game season for the NFL.
Yeah.
Will it work or will it destroy players as well as promoting injuries?
Wow.
That's a good point.
With conditioning getting better and athletes being much stronger, taller, better, more
muscle, better trained.
Man.
You know, in order to make it really work successfully, teams would have to adopt more
of these frequent substitutions.
Running backs and linemen and receivers and quarterbacks even.
If they try to run the way they're doing now where, hey, you're a starter, you start every
game and you play all the way through, I think that's going to shorten a lot of careers.
And it's going to make for a lot of playoff.
Playoffs?
It would make up for a lot of.
How can you say playoffs anymore without Jim Moore going, playoffs?
Playoffs?
But imagine getting into the playoffs year after year and all the best players are injured.
Yeah.
And you're like, oh, this could have been a great game except this guy's out.
And unless the year after year, you're going to be in the playoffs, you're going to be
in the playoffs year after year.
Unless the teams are willing to embrace substitutings, like your running back's already gotten 110
yards, pull him out.
He doesn't play the rest of the game.
Don't chase those big stats.
I agree.
You've got to do the platoon system, the substitution system, because I don't think any of those
human bodies are going to survive two preseason, 18 regular season games, and then potentially
four more playoff games.
That's 24 games.
Yeah.
The long snapper is finally going to make his money.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
He's going to have two more games that he has to participate in.
That's true.
But here's the downside.
5,000 yards is going to be the low.
Yeah.
It's going to be like 3,000 yards is now.
50 touchdowns, probably not that out of the question.
Yeah.
The number of yards you get in the game doesn't necessarily change, but over the course of
the season, we're going to have to adjust upwards quite a bit.
Yeah.
A lot of records will fall.
Incentives in contracts will have to be written differently.
Yeah.
As much as it sounds great, I don't think they should do it.
Yeah, probably not.
If I'm any kind of reliable sample, it's enough already.
It's actually kind of too long.
Oh, I got another thought, and I just thought of this.
Pacheco's going to come back this season because we do have an extended season.
Good point.
That last game coming back or the last two are probably going to be real ass-kickers.
Yeah.
So you get him back, so that's a plus.
Yeah.
But the minus is you might lose someone just as important.
Yeah.
Kelsey, do you have him do 18 games?
I don't know if you do that.
I'd hate to see Mahomes do 18 games every snap.
No, me too.
I'd like to see them start putting Carson Wentz in when we're up three scores.
But so far we haven't been.
No, no.
And that's because people pay to see Mahomes, CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, all pay to see Mahomes.
Yeah, that you've got to counter with.
If he gets injured, then next week you're not going to see any of them.
Exactly.
Would you rather see three quarters of them every week or no Mahomes for four weeks while he's out?
Right now they want to see whatever happens.
They're hoping for the best, but they want to see as much of them as they can.
Yeah.
So they're going to try it.
Let's hope they pay attention to the parts that don't work.
Yeah.
All right.
Any more on that?
Yeah.
Okay.
The final one here of bullet points is, and I'm all for this, I'll tell you right now.
Should the bottom teams in each division have to run laps before every game?
Oh, man.
100%.
Yeah.
And I would like to add some little humiliation things to that.
No, go ahead.
Like if.
In a dress?
No, I was going to say like if it's after halfway point of the season and you're still
winless, you've got to wear a big red zero on your jersey.
Yes.
We found a new format.
Yeah.
Just like that.
Yeah, what's some other ones?
Running laps if you're in last place.
I like that.
At the discretion of the other team.
Yeah.
So if they think you still need more laps, they don't think you learned your lesson yet.
That could get really funny.
The guy that commits the most penalties gets a shock collar.
Every time he commits a penalty, Ja'Juan Taylor would be dead.
I think he would.
I would like to see that.
The player who gets the most penalties in the previous game has to wear like a big yellow
something pointing him out.
I'm a dumbass.
So the officials know to watch him because he was the most penalized last season.
That guy right there, he's going to do something.
Just watch him.
Just make him real obvious so he's getting caught.
You know, I know this is hyperbole.
I know this is parody.
But I mean, I would love to see that myself.
I would love to, yeah.
Ja'Juan Taylor here.
Watch him.
Yeah.
He keeps wearing the yellow every damn day, every game.
Yeah.
He's the guy.
Humiliate him out of it.
Yeah, just like have, you know, like the flag football flags.
Just have a whole bunch of them around his waistband.
They're all yellow.
And so everywhere he runs, he's got this like flappy yellow skirt that follows around.
This is your guy.
This is Mr. Penalty.
And then also he's going to be looked at right off the bat.
Yep.
They'll keep an eagle eye on him.
That guy's making a Cernar money today right there.
Hey, how you doing, man?
Hey, you got anything you want to say?
We're doing sports right now.
I'm not doing sports right now.
You got a basketball man.
Let's see.
But we could have talked about anything, but that's all right.
He was in a hurry.
He looked like he was on the move.
Yeah, he's going into Corollas.
Oh, okay.
Hell yeah.
He's going to go get a, shit, what is that, Neapolitan or something like that?
No, something.
Fuck, I forgot.
That sandwich is so good.
Here's what they have on their window.
We have gelato, biscotti, pasta, olive oil, cheese, prosciutto, salami.
Is your mouth watering yet?
Oh, yeah.
Actually, all of them together.
Oh, yeah.
Just roll them up into a big...
You're talking about the KFC bowl.
Oh, yeah.
That's a Corollas bowl.
Corollas, famous bowl, yeah.
Italian gelato, a fan of Italian ice cream.
If I could eat dairy, I'd be over there.
All right, yeah.
All right, okay.
Well, I think we're probably pretty much done for the first one here.
All right, let's see.
We got two and a half hours.
That's pretty good.
I think that's pretty good.
We ought to stop there.
Yeah, I think so too.
Hi there.
This is your ears.
Why are you listening to this garbage?
I thought we were friends.
Didn't you really sit there and listen to all that garbage that was being...
Do you actually believe one inch of it?
I didn't think so.
Hang on.
Game over.