From the deep inside the bowels of the city market in Kansas City, Missouri downtown property
to the banks of the beautiful crystal blue waters of the Missouri River
it is the original two, Topher and Mark, given the 2024 football predictions for the season.
You thought they were done, didn't you?
Hehehehehehe
Harambe loved talking sports.
Harambe doesn't talk sports anymore.
Why not?
Because Harambe's dead.
Harambe died because some idiot could not watch their children properly while they were on the phone.
They shot him.
Senselessly murdered.
Harambe does not talk sports anymore.
Sorry Harambe.
Kicking your ass!
A size 15 clown boots and a deep Tracy hat.
Well, since the sports show can't be called to douchebags with a microphone,
maybe we could just call them the sports bastards.
Now that I think about it, I should.
Well, the only thing I don't know is my scores.
Other than that, I know what I went against.
Yeah.
That's good enough.
We know this is only our third one.
Yeah.
We're still shaking off cobwebs and flakes of rust.
Yeah, we're still figuring it out.
So I guess we'll go through the games first, right?
Yeah.
And then we will go.
We could talk about Tennessee coach making his quarterback almost cry on the sideline.
Oh, yeah, yeah, Levis.
Yeah.
Yeah, he got yanked.
Well, I mean, I don't know how they got Levis.
You know what?
Let's save this for the podcast.
Yeah.
And we talked about the Panthers.
Bryce Young was a shit-hand.
I'm quoting Dennis Green.
They are who I thought they were.
All right.
You ready?
Yeah, I'm ready.
All righty.
So welcome one and all.
To douchebag.
No, no, no.
To the sports bastards.
The sports bastards.
I like that.
That's what we came up with.
The sports bastards.
So yeah, so on Tuesdays, we're not douchebags.
No, we're bastards.
Yeah, yeah.
Very.
I think that's a pretty good trade.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
It's a nice change of pace.
We can go right back to being douchebags tomorrow.
Yeah, yeah.
And then the next runoff show we'll do, we can be the sports fuckers or something.
Yeah, yeah.
Or maybe we can do a movie review critic and call it the movie creeps.
The movie creeps.
Yeah.
Not to be confused with Mr. Creepy, who is now dead.
Oh, yeah.
Mr. Creepy.
Yeah, he got ran over by a truck.
Oh, gosh.
And he's gone.
We're very glad about that.
All right, well, I guess we're going to go ahead and go to our picks.
All right.
First one I have written down is Bills at Dolphins.
That was the Thursday night game.
Okay.
We actually watched this the same time in the same room.
How about that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was pretty boring after that, after a while.
Yeah.
So I had predicted Bills 27-24.
And did I go against on that?
No, I was there.
No, you went with the Bills also.
I think you and I were pretty close on that.
I think so.
Yeah, so all right, we got one right.
Yeah, do you want me to bring up the actual scores?
Yeah, if you want.
And compare.
Oh, actually, I have it 31 to 10.
Okay.
I have the scores on here.
All right, good.
Yeah, it was a wider margin than I thought.
Well.
I mean, I'm sure as I didn't know Tua was going to go out.
Number one, Tua is pretty fragile.
He seems to be.
I mean, you'd understand after four concussions now.
Yeah.
And I'm beginning to have a little bit more respect for their head coach, Daniels.
Yeah.
He was so classy with Tua.
He gave him a kiss, you know, and he said, you know what?
He said he is the quarterback of his family.
So he put it to where Tua has to think, you know.
Yeah, that's refreshing to hear a head coach say football isn't everything.
Yes.
You have a life.
It's more important to live a life and have a good life and football comes second.
Yeah.
That's rare.
That is really rare.
The human part of it is rare.
I mean, Andrew Reed would have done that too.
Yeah.
There's coaches that would have done that and there's coaches that are just like, oh, he's a tough-nosed guy.
He'll be back.
You know.
Remember old Tom Landry?
Oh, he would have been like, nothing's stopping this boy.
Yeah.
Rub some dirt in it and get your ass in there.
No, he wouldn't have said ass.
Tom Landry didn't cuss.
He said rub some dirt in it and get back in there.
Next time, throw more accurate.
He was a character.
He was something else.
Yeah, he probably would have called him Tua Fabula.
Yeah, I don't know.
Tom Landry was the era where he was okay with American sounding names.
Yeah, but anything else.
Yeah.
Butcher.
During the 60s and 70s, during his heyday, it seemed like there were a lot of Polish names coming into the league.
Yeah, there was and they didn't understand the Z or whatever.
Yeah, the CZ and the SKI.
Yeah, so he was having trouble enough with that.
What do you mean, Nisalka?
Nisalka.
Imagine some of these names now and hyphenated at that.
He would just lose his mind.
Oh, no.
He would be able to just.
He'd be number 64.
Yeah, exactly.
He'd call it rumored by their number.
I mean, give credit to the TV announcers.
They've adjusted to a lot of international sounding last names for the players.
I'm pretty sure they have a standardized course the first of the year on the players that they're going to be talking about.
Yeah, and they're probably written out phonetically in front of them.
Except Tom Brady.
Yeah.
Really, because you say Kabir Gubajabiamila.
That's probably not even right.
He just says Ted.
Yeah.
Oh, Teddy there.
He's a fast one.
Oh, my gosh, man.
Well, I tell you, I was watching him do the 40, you know, back when I played.
Yeah, a couple of years ago.
That's my old pal Bill.
Yeah, boy, he could drink some beers.
Yeah, so anyhow, the Bills.
Look, man, the Bills are tough.
I underestimated them.
That defense is no fucking joke.
Yeah, yeah, they sure wanted it, didn't they?
Yeah, they're defense rivals of Chiefs.
I would say so, especially since the Chiefs defense isn't quite what I thought it would be at this point yet.
No, it's got some fine tuning.
By the end of the year, I could see it being close to what we had last year.
Yeah.
Without Snead, I can't say we're going to beat.
I think we're going to have score more points on average this year than we did last year because the defense isn't going to be able to do it quite the same way.
Yeah.
OK, their running game is good.
Their pass game is probably going to catch on as they go.
They have a bunch of young new receivers.
But the thing is about the Bills is the key to their success to me is Vaughn Miller has to stay healthy.
Yeah, I would say so.
If he doesn't, with Vaughn Miller in there, they're a completely different defense.
Yeah.
They went from good to phenomenal.
Yeah, just having to account for him gives everyone else more opportunities.
So even if Vaughn isn't making, you know, it's a standard thing, it would be Vaughn isn't making the tackle somebody else is because Vaughn's in there.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, they have to account for him, kind of like Chris Jones.
Yep.
Chris Jones may only get a half a sack, one sack, occasionally two sacks, but it's not that.
It's the fact that he's in there.
Yeah.
And they know he's in there.
And he's soaking up tackler blockers.
Yeah.
So Vaughn Miller is definitely going to be key.
Yeah, he's just like what we'll go into a little bit later about Travis Kelsey.
Yeah.
About him being a decoy.
I mean, it's working great anyhow.
Yeah.
So, you know, the Dolphins I thought could be good, but now is more and more as I go on.
I don't think they're going to be that good because I think you're going to get a Tagovaiola being very cautious if he comes back.
Yeah.
The word was that if Tagovaiola retires, that Tom Brady was interested in that slot, he was asked.
And he said, yeah, I joined the Dolphins.
And I could see the network letting them out of his contract to go back to the NFL because that would just look great.
Yes.
For PR-wise.
And also Tyreek Hill said he always wanted to play with Brady.
Yeah, I imagine.
Didn't Tyreek Hill look like he's getting slower?
He is.
I would swear he is.
I mean, he's still a great receiver, but he's not the same receiver he was.
He's getting to be more kind of average.
I think this season is going to tell the tale right there.
Yeah.
I don't think defenders are going to be as scared of him anymore.
No, I don't think so.
And also, I mean, look, man, I'm not dogging him because he's a shorter guy.
But the thing is, is if you're not that fast, you're not as fast as you used to be, and the corner can keep up with you or the safe private corner.
It can keep up with you.
He's going to outreach you by four foot.
We saw that happening in the Chiefs game, didn't we?
Yes, we did.
Short receivers getting outreached for the ball.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's going to happen.
Yeah, so if you don't have that extra one second on everybody, you're not going to be nearly as effective.
Like I said, you know, maybe his knee work is still, you know, still recovering and not there.
Yeah, because he used to have those crazy moves, too.
I mean, at the last second, he'd like wiggle sideways like he was, you know, got 17 different bone joints.
He just doesn't do that anymore.
Unless you're like the Chiefs and you blow him up at the line.
You know, who else I heard for the Dolphins was the interest is there to trade with the Panthers for Bryce Davidson.
Bryce Young?
Bryce, yeah, Rumb, Young.
Oh, the quarterback.
Yeah, quarterback.
We're talking about the quarterback.
Right, Davis.
You know what?
I could see them developing.
Yeah, and, you know, it would be odd for the Panthers to give them up so quickly.
But apparently...
They're not doing anything with him.
No, that was the commentary I heard on the brief time they're actually talking about football instead of throwing pancakes at each other.
Is that...
We'll get to that in a little bit.
Yeah, they've pretty much given up on this guy.
And at the same time, they have no clue how to develop him.
They don't have any of the tools.
He's just going to get slaughtered over and over and over.
And all of his confidence is going to drain away.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm now starting to wonder about Caleb Williams, too.
Yeah.
But we'll go into that in a little bit.
Okay.
They're saying, yeah, trade him to the Dolphins.
They can develop him and kind of save his career.
But I don't think the Panthers would do it.
No, I don't think they're capable of doing it.
I think that the Panthers are another graveyard to quarterbacks.
And I can see somebody in their marketing department who's not even looking at the game film, the game scores, the game stats.
All he's saying is, what?
Give up our number one draft pick quarterback?
Are you crazy?
We'll never do that.
They never did in the past.
Yeah.
I mean, until Cam Newton wanted to leave, then they did.
Yeah.
But they've never done that in the past.
Yeah.
So I don't have any type of faith that they'll do that now.
Yeah, someone's looking at just the value of where he was drafted, which has nothing to do with the player.
The player has no influence on where he gets drafted.
Yeah.
And if Bryce Young, if he's going to make it, it's not going to be there anyhow.
Bryce Young would probably be a good fit with Mike Tomlin.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And I think the Panthers, since they're running their team just as a business to make money, what they should be doing is getting the somewhat washed up older quarterbacks to the field.
Older quarterbacks that you can get for league minimum and just get an endless parade of them.
I can't think of the guy they had for years that was a washed up old quarterback.
I think he might have been Cajun.
In Carolina?
Carolina.
Huh.
I'll think of it a little bit later.
Yeah.
The one I'm thinking most is Kerry Collins.
He was like their first good quarterback.
Oh, yeah.
That was another one, too.
Yeah, Kerry Collins.
And that was one that they got on the market.
Yeah.
Didn't they have Minshew at one point?
I think they did have Minshew, and even he was smart enough to get the hell out of it.
Yeah.
I think Gardner Minshew has played for everybody at this point.
He's playing for the Raiders?
No, no, no.
Yeah.
He's starting for the Raiders right now.
Okay, that's it.
So.
All right.
Anyway, so we watched the game.
We were, yeah, I think the Dolphins do well this season.
Oh, well.
It looks like they're not going to get off to a very good start, but we'll see how they go from here.
No, I mean, I could see them finishing above 500, but they're going to have to have things go their way.
But as far as Bryce Young, to cap that off is, it would be interesting to see him thrown to Waddle and Tyree Killam.
Yeah, it would be.
Yeah.
If he could do it, that's the lineup you want.
If he can't do it, that's the lineup you want.
That's how you make an evaluation.
That's true.
Given the best, and if you can't make it work, then you know what you're going to do.
It's not going to work.
Yeah.
But there's just, is there any talent on the Panthers team right now?
Any significant standout talent that they could trade away for draft picks or just better players?
Some of their secondary.
I think they could probably trade for their secondary, maybe get a third or fourth round pick.
And why would you want them at this point?
Why would you want them?
You're years away from anything.
Absolutely.
Yeah, so maybe some of their offense, I'm trying to think of, I think probably their secondary.
Excuse me.
And maybe a D-back might be a little bit more than a standout, you know?
Yeah.
There's a player here or there.
Yeah.
So anyhow, who wants to go into that anyhow?
Because nobody really cares.
Yeah.
Not even Carolina.
Apparently not.
All right.
Raiders 26.
Ravens 23.
We both picked the Raiders to win.
I had them 31-17.
Yeah, this is their letdown game.
Yeah.
They had all of their nutsack in that inaugural game.
Yeah.
They're tired of the Chiefs beating them.
They're going to do something about it.
And then when they didn't, I think it got in their head.
Uh-huh.
And I'm wondering if now the team's going to have to like really bring it together quickly
or they're going to fall apart.
Yeah.
I remember seeing one more reference to Lamar Jackson's comment of the toe over the line,
so the guy was out of bounds, and you saying, well, if that's the only way they can win,
then I feel bad for them come playoff time.
Yes.
Which makes no sense whatsoever because the Chiefs didn't do anything on that play.
It was all the Ravens stepping out of bounds.
Yeah.
There's nothing the Chiefs did.
Anyway.
Childish and spoiled milk.
Yeah, it showed a lack of emotional maturity in that moment.
Exactly.
That he couldn't control himself.
And I think there is where you're going to find the line, just like the Bengals game,
which we'll go into.
Oh, yeah.
Of a well-coached team and a good-coached team.
Yeah.
A well-coached team is not going to say that.
They're going to go, I got to give it to them.
They won the game.
We're going to try it.
We're going to go home.
We're going to learn from this.
Next time, they won't be in out of bounds.
They'll say, you know, we're going to get better from this.
Here's a good analogy.
When Trump beat Hillary Clinton in 2016, she disappeared for a while because she just could
not believe that she got beat.
She wasn't supposed to get beat.
She was supposed to win.
Yeah.
I think the Ravens are in that mentality right now.
That's a great analogy.
They can't handle it.
But we're supposed to win.
We're supposed to win.
We're the tough guy.
We're supposed to win.
They can't handle the fact that reality isn't meeting up with the script they had in their
head.
It doesn't help that the Skip Baylesses of the world, little Skippner ballists, people
like him of his help, we're all jumping on the Ravens tip.
Oh, Lamar Jackson's better than Mahomes.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Oh, clearly to see.
And it's up to Lamar Jackson to realize that that Skip Bayless's job is to be Mr. Pro This
or Pro That and just blow things up and not to take him seriously.
I mean, anybody who takes Skip Bayless seriously needs to cut it out right now.
Yes.
Really.
I don't think even he takes himself seriously.
Oh, no.
I mean, people play characters on radio and TV to get listeners, get popularity, to make
it exciting.
And you meet them in real life and they're not like that because they're performing when
they're in front of the mic or the camera.
They're performing.
He may be a perfectly nice guy, but I hate him.
He plays a complete douchebag.
Yeah.
Not the good kind of douchebag like us.
No, no, no.
A real bad kind of douchebag.
That's a bad douchebag.
So anyhow, yeah, the people like that props this guy up so large, so heavy that, I mean,
they just could not quit kissing him.
And this is what you get.
The spoiled brat, in my opinion.
Yeah.
His foot was not over the line.
Yes, it was.
And once again, the league changes things to try to not help the Chiefs.
And once again, it helps the Chiefs.
Yeah.
So you think sooner or later they'll be like, don't do anything.
And I noticed that in Sunday's game, that receiver was still wearing black cleats.
He hadn't changed the white cleats the way my home suggested.
Exactly.
I noticed that too.
I saw it.
OK.
Every sideline is white.
Every ground's border is painted white.
Why wouldn't you paint your shoes white?
Look at the Chiefs.
Yeah.
They're all on board.
Yeah.
Kelsey wears those weird gold shoes sometimes.
Yeah, sometimes.
But, you know, Kelsey's not necessarily worried about that.
He's in the middle.
Yeah.
He's a tough guy over the middle.
It could matter at the goal line.
So, you know, anyhow, gold may not be quite as easy to see as black shoes.
But that's all on them.
That's all on them.
If he wasn't trying to showboat, if likely wasn't trying to showboat, I'm wearing black
cleats because they look tougher.
They might have got away with a W.
Could have.
Because they ruled it a touchdown and then overturned it.
So if they hadn't been able to see exactly where his toe was, it would have stayed a
touchdown.
Chris Collinsworth caught it.
Doesn't that say everything?
That says a lot if that guy catches it.
Yeah, I mean, right off the bat he goes, uh-oh, uh-oh.
And I was like, wait, what's he talking about?
Speaking of Collinsworth, he was trying to talk up Joe Mixon during that game.
Oh, yeah.
And claimed that Joe Mixon had never fumbled in his entire career.
Wrong.
Yeah.
It's like, how many years has he been a broadcaster and it's his job to know these things and
say them on air and he just blows it?
That's a great point.
Yeah.
I mean, wouldn't you, if you were NBC, wouldn't you say, hey, Chris, come here.
Come here.
Start getting your facts straight or don't say shit.
If you're not sure about it, don't say shit because that makes you look stupid.
It's like the airline star pilot screwing up a landing on a perfectly sunny, calm day.
Yeah, with no other planes in sight.
Yeah.
It's like, how could you screw that up?
It's the easiest.
Yeah.
And it's what you do for a living.
And I would bet the NBC probably had to talk with them.
Yeah, social media blew up.
It's like, this guy's clueless.
And anybody who's older and appears clueless, you're pretty much done.
There's nothing you can do with that.
Yeah.
They already lived their life and they're still stupid.
Yeah.
I mean, the audience is younger people, teens, 20s, 30s, somewhat into the 40s.
But you get Chris Collinsworth, who's at least in his 60s.
He could be approaching 70, I would bet.
Yeah, because I'm 63 and he's older than me.
The problem is they all have fantasy teams.
And as soon as you say, bullshit, I got burnt by that guy three years ago.
You know, all of them know.
They know the stats better than anybody else because they live by him.
They might win, I don't know, $300 because of the stats or whatever.
And I think that's going to be something that will quietly get him out of his job,
as if he keeps screwing up like that.
It won't be something, oh, we sent a dick pic or he said something inappropriate.
No, I don't think he's that type of guy.
No, but they'll gradually ease him out if he's appearing more and more clueless.
Yes.
And they would attribute that to maybe Alzheimer's or dementia early coming in or something.
Well, he's just not quite up to speed.
And you know, it's so much more important.
There's so much more riding on him being accurate because people are betting.
They're placing bets based on what he says.
Because he comes out and says he's never fumbled,
then you're going to start betting that he's not going to fumble this game, next game, all season, whatever.
So in order to keep their message, keep their, I'm sorry, not their message, keep their thing going with the gambling culture,
you've got to be accurate.
You've got to give them the information with enough time for someone to do something with the information,
whip out the phone and place a bet.
You see, I would go against Joe Mixon if he never had a fumble.
I would check that out as he's going to have one now.
Yeah, yeah.
It creates betting revenue.
People will bet for him.
People will bet against him.
But if Chris Collins never mentions it, nobody bets.
That's right.
So they need him to keep telling these things like, well, this team has never lost on a Sunday night following a bye week on a rainy, you know, blah, blah.
It's all options for you to bet.
But you've got to be accurate and you've got to give them that info in time for them to place the bet.
Yeah, so you don't give them wrong info because half the people got on their phones and then they find out different.
And then there's going to be some trashy class action lawsuit where people say, I lost 10,000 grand because dumbass here told me the wrong stat.
If I was a judge, I'd say, go to another commentator.
Yeah.
But anyhow.
OK, this next one could have been pretty easily guessed.
The Chargers against the Panthers.
Chargers 26, Panthers three.
I mean, what is there to say?
It was what it was.
Twenty six to three.
Yeah, we had I had 2410.
So I was kind of in the ballpark.
I didn't realize Carolina's going to look so bad.
I watched some of the low lights, you know, they're not highlights of some of the low lights of their quarterback trying to pass.
And he's just getting clobbered.
The look on his face is is shell shocked.
He's ruined.
It's like this has never happened to me before.
Why is this happening?
Everybody on his team are professional level football players who should know their job, do their job.
He's a kid from Ohio State.
Yeah.
He looks so good in college.
I find it hard to believe.
Well, I don't know.
The game's so much faster.
But I would venture to say with a little bit more protection, he'd be better.
Yeah.
Some of those throws he's making, he's getting them into really tight spaces.
He's just the timing is a little off and he's getting pegged or whatever.
It's kind of hard to throw when you're flat on your ass.
No kidding.
Yeah.
But it looks like the coaching staff is doing nothing to ease his transition into the league.
I think it's a combination of him not being that savvy and also not having the personnel.
Yeah.
That was the next thing is he just he doesn't have an O line.
No.
He doesn't have a star receiver who can make some things happen to give the quarterback his confidence.
Yes.
It's such a bad situation for him.
Yeah.
It's a shame because this young man wants to have a career.
Everything's been going great up to this point and then he lands in the worst possible situation.
I think there's enough there if someone is a quarterback guru like Reid or Tomlin or somebody, you know.
And actually, Jim Harbaugh would be a good one too.
Yeah.
Someone that can nurture a quarterback into being a decent one into a great one.
I mean, he had Smith and Kaepernick and made it to the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
That says a lot.
It is.
So, OK.
I think that someone that knows what to look for will go, you know what?
There is some talent there.
There is something I can work with.
And they'll probably pick him up for a third rounder easily.
I mean, he's sitting on the bench there.
Yeah.
I mean, they might as well get a third rounder and hope to rebuild.
So, yeah, I mean, that's exactly what I thought it would be.
I forgot what score I predicted, but the Chargers are looking good like I thought.
Yeah.
They're surprisingly good.
The better than I thought they'd look at this point.
Yeah.
I think Harbaugh is going to coach up Herbert well enough.
He found him some receivers somehow, somewhere.
Yeah.
So, he's doing what Harbaugh does.
Yeah.
So, anyhow, yeah, that's pretty predictable.
I mean, this next one was not predictable.
But if you were Topher, it was.
They were your surprise team, Saints, 44, Cowboys, 19.
And, you know, I didn't pick the Saints.
You did.
Oh.
I didn't pick the Saints.
Okay.
All right.
I thought Dallas was going to squeak it out by 27-24 at home because they looked pretty
good on that opening game against Cleveland.
Yeah.
But holy cow, was I wrong there.
The Saints were amazing.
It's like everything worked.
I don't have very much faith in Mike McCarthy.
I know he has a Super Bowl ring.
Yeah.
But he also had an all-star cast, a defensive cast, and also an offensive cast to go along
with it.
He had the talent.
Yeah.
He generally gets a little less out of his team than he should.
Yes.
I don't think he's the answer there.
But I think it's time for Jerry Jones to go.
I mean, he doesn't have to sell the team, but he needs to get his nose out of the business.
Yes.
No.
He's got to get his ears.
Yeah.
I think some have hit from what I can gather.
He meddles so much, they can't really get a team together that they really need.
And are they going to re-sign Dac or not?
I'm not so sure they are.
I don't know.
There's certainly other quarterbacks they could be looking at.
Yes.
They could make a play for Carolina's quarterback.
There are some others out there.
They could even try to get Carson Wentz from the Chiefs as an interim guy.
Yeah.
I mean, there's just a lot of options.
But I'm thinking the league at this point is telling Jerry, OK, you've had it your way
for a long time.
You're running the team pretty much, and it's not working.
And there's revenue being lost.
So kick yourself out of the office.
Get some young hot shot at general manager and head coach.
And let them do it and be hands off.
Yeah.
And I could see the league.
If I was the league, I'd go, look, Jerry, we promise you three close-up shots every
game up there in the box.
We're not going to really announce that Hylene that you have at GM.
You can give them a different title.
You could say assistant GM and I don't know, whatever, and player personnel or something.
OK?
And that guy is secretly behind the scenes making more of the picks.
And then you can do it like that because Jerry Jones certainly seems to have an ego.
Oh, yeah.
We'll show you three times per broadcast.
We'll talk you up.
We'll talk about their tradition, about how they were so good for so long.
Yeah.
And so you're just hitting a rough patch, but you're going to be back there.
Do all that stuff.
But my god, leave the team alone.
Yeah.
Just the way the NFL will promote certain players to be popular and have everyone like
them and buy their jerseys.
They promote owners the same way.
They promote franchises the same way.
And right now, Jerry Jones is popular with a small certain group, but the rest of the
country is just tired of his ass.
Yeah, they don't want to see him anymore.
Yeah.
When they let Pollard go, I thought that was a definition that they were going to go and
re-sign DAC.
Yeah.
They also let a couple of other people go, too.
When they did that, I'm like, OK, they got to create room for DAC.
And they drafted what they think well enough to fill the holes, kind of like what the
Chiefs did when they had to get rid of Snead.
They're like, you know, we think we have some guys that can get it done good enough.
Yeah.
So when that happened, I thought, OK, they're going to re-sign DAC.
I don't know now, because I'll put it like this.
How much do you remember the Chiefs that made it to all these divisional rounds that could
have had the best team that year, but they just made it to a divisional round and usually
fell short?
Yeah.
Whether it's the famous Lynn Elliott bobble to losing to Jim Harbaugh and the Colts to,
I mean, the Gerbach Ganon bobble.
13-3 team.
Yeah, 13-3 team.
Close it in the first game.
At home.
At home, yeah.
Yeah, at home, first game.
They're not thought of that well.
They're not thought of, they were like the team that could have, but just didn't.
You know, it's funny, when I was a kid, just making the playoffs was enough for me.
Yeah.
And I quickly grew out of that, because it's frustrating to watch your team do well all
year round, all year long, and get ready for the playoffs, charge into the playoffs, and
then just crap out.
I became cynical.
Yeah.
Why am I even paying attention?
I started thinking, you know what, if the Chiefs aren't going to make it all the way
this year, I'd hope they don't even make the playoffs.
Yeah, the same year.
Let some other team get in that's got a chance.
I'm like, I'm getting tired of being dry-jerked on this whole damn thing.
Yeah.
Sick of it.
Yeah.
So yeah, so that's where the Cowboys are at.
Every year they get dry-jerked and a little bit more cynical.
There's a good term for that.
The Cowboys are, the Cowboy fans feel like the team is dry-humping their last nerve.
I think that's perfect analogy.
Yeah, I think it is too.
I can't take credit for making that up.
I read that somewhere, but.
That's perfect.
Yeah.
So I think the Cowboys are on the decline.
The Saints are on the incline.
They're going up.
Kamara is just playing insane right now.
Now he's not going to play like that all year.
True.
He's going to settle out, but they have some key components.
I think Tieson Hill or Tyson Hill, however you pronounce his name, I've heard it every
way.
I've heard it Tayson, Tieson, and Tyson.
Yeah.
Well whichever one it is, you can pick for yourself.
He is an interesting caliber in there.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, they don't have the Wildcat per se in the NFL, but they have some options
that you can go to in Cognito.
And I think that as Kamara settles down, they're going with the hot hand, you're going to see
more of the trick plays and the gadget plays.
Yeah, there are some direct snaps to Pacheco in the Chiefs game.
Yeah.
And I think that's a fantastic idea.
Yeah.
Instead of accounting for one guy, you're accounting for two.
Pacheco, it's too bad he's injured down there, because that guy was on his way.
He was getting nine yards.
Yeah.
Just like that.
Just blowing through that line.
Oh, he is an angry runner.
But coincidentally, I'll go into this a little bit later.
I want a conversation on it.
One of the persons that could fill his role is kind of surprised that they're even talking
to him.
I'll get to that in a little bit.
You know who I'm talking about, don't you?
Yeah.
So, all right, next.
I don't know what else to say about that.
Saints are ascending, Cowboys definitely descending.
And you know the Saints are going to win both the games against Carolina.
There's two more wins, you can just automatically chop.
That's four wins right there.
All right.
All right, the next one.
Bucks 20, Lions 16.
This is another one that I got wrong.
I thought Detroit was going to win.
And you got it right.
You picked Tampa.
Mayfield is getting corrected like I thought.
Todd Goles.
Yeah, he is.
I like Todd Goles a lot.
He quietly, very quietly said, re-sign him.
I've got enough to work with.
Don't make a big deal, just do it.
Yeah.
No one else is going to act like they want him.
They just thought it was a one-year resurgence.
He's getting him on the right path again.
Mayfield on the right path was a really good quarterback.
Yeah.
I think that Tampa was trying to find that guy after Brady left.
And I think as well as the shoes could be filled with what they could do,
they've done well.
Yeah, and it seems like the coach is doing the smart thing of,
you figure out what Baker Mayfield is good at.
And he's accentuating that.
Yeah, you put him in those situations over and over.
Yeah.
And it works.
It does.
Maybe your game plan is you want to run a lot of reverses or fades
or whatever.
If Baker's not good at that, throw him out.
Yeah.
Do what Baker does well.
And that's what they're doing right now.
They're under the assumption it's just good old between the tackles football.
I love that.
I do too.
I love that basic football.
Solid quarterback play, but don't rely on him to make that miracle pass.
Okay, he's not in the Holmes.
He's really good, but he's not in the Holmes.
He's not even Josh Allen.
But don't rely on him to make that miracle throw.
Good solid defense and well thought of plays for the offense.
Yeah, when Bruce Arians got there, he changed that whole front office
to be something good again.
Yeah.
And Bruce Arians is gone, but that front office is still steaming the head.
So I can see Tampa Bay being a good franchise for another decade.
Oh, I could too.
I wonder if there's something wrong with Arians.
They showed him the other day.
He looked 10 years older to me.
Yeah, the things that kind of caused that or that kind of wasting away are cancer.
It could be alcoholism, I don't know.
Yeah, it could be something insidious like that.
I don't know.
You think that if it was an actual well-known medical situation like he has lung cancer
or something, they'd be parading him around and using his motivation,
because that's what teams do, is they hold up their injured and ill comrades.
Do it for Todd.
Yeah, I remember all the mileage they got out of Eric Barry when he got leukemia.
Oh, gosh, yeah.
Or lymphoma or whatever it was.
Yeah, leukemia, I believe.
They made such a big deal and got so much mileage out of that guy that that's the new standard.
Yeah.
And even when Barry came back, and as it should have been, football was not his priority.
He wasn't nearly as good, and I'm not dogging the guy.
He was trying to live his life the best he could.
They still propped him up like one of the all-stars that he was before.
Yeah, but I tell you, when I got cancer, that changed my priorities in a big way.
I would say.
It's like, okay, here's something that's trying to kill me, so I need to make some changes.
Yes.
It brings the idea of your death into sharp focus.
It does.
Like, hey, this is something that's really going to happen someday.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, you're going to see the Bucs probably win the division.
Yeah.
Or at least be in the wild card.
They're going to duke it out with the Saints, aren't they?
That's going to be fun.
Yeah.
That's going to be a fun thing to watch, those two playing each other.
I hope they have a game late.
Well, I think it'll be flexed, if nothing else.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So, this is interesting.
I thought the Bucs are going to be well, and right now they're doing the template that
I thought they were going to do.
Not pat myself on the back.
What I'm saying is this right here.
I'm thinking they're doing exactly what they need to do, and they're just playing solid,
defensive play.
They give him a field plays that he can excel on, and that's it.
And you're going to see that template.
It may not win him a Super Bowl, but it's going to get him to the playoffs every year.
And then maybe they could come up with that quarterback, the guy.
Yeah.
Or maybe they could come up with that defense that you don't necessarily need the guy.
You just need solid, smart play from him.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, that's pretty much all I know what else to say about that.
I mean, you know.
That's something to keep an eye on.
It's going to be interesting is watch the Bucs offense as the season goes along and
see if it gets a little more complex, which means they're working more in, as it may feel
just more comfortable.
That's a great point.
We're going to see about that.
If it just kind of stays this offense, then maybe they're not totally invested in it.
But if the offense starts getting a little more complex and they're giving him more things
he can do, more options, more opportunities, then that would be a good indicator that he's
going to be around for a while.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I go back to the divisional game in 2019, was it?
2019.
Yeah.
OK.
Mayfield came close to beating the Chiefs in the divisional round.
If it wasn't for Matt Moore, throwing that insanely fourth down pick where everybody thought
there's no way they're going to trust him.
And he makes it to Ty Hill.
We win the game.
We control the ball the rest of the way.
He almost did it.
Mayfield has something in him.
We'll see.
He's definitely a good competitor.
Yeah.
Packers 16, Colts 10.
Yeah, got that one wrong.
I had an Indy 27-10 over Green Bay.
What did I do?
I think you also had an Indy.
OK.
Because I marked the only two we disagreed on.
OK.
So let's see here.
OK.
I thought that the Packers are going to have a letdown because Jordan loves out for a while.
But it appears like the injury is not as strong as they thought it was, not as bad as they
thought it was.
So he'll be back in a game or two.
So I think they're just trying to do what they can to scratch out some wins.
And they did.
They did a very good job.
The Packers are still a good team.
And they're still a force to be reckoned with.
And Colts starting open, too.
I didn't think that would happen.
I didn't either.
But I'm seeing things out of Richardson where they were thinking he's going to be a really
good quarterback.
I do see some things.
Yeah.
But there is some spark there that maybe if you train him right, he could maybe be something.
So we'll see what happens with that.
Other than that, I don't know.
I mean, there's really not much else to say about that.
I mean, good for them.
They're doing what it takes.
You know, they're staying in it.
They're one and one.
Colts are 0 and 2.
So there you go.
I mean, you'd never want to go 0 and 2 because then your chances of having a home field are
gone.
It really seems to make you like you're trying to catch up all season.
Uh-huh.
You know, even if you do catch up, it's still in the back of your mind.
Oh, my God, we started 0 and 2.
We're lucky to be here.
Chiefs and Bills right now are in your way if you make it that far.
If you make the playoffs, Chiefs and Bills, Chiefs have the tiebreaker.
Yeah.
So right now, you're like, we're already two games in the hole.
So really, they're three games in the hole.
True, true.
Because of tiebreaker.
Same with Baltimore because they're 0 and 2.
Exactly.
And Cincinnati's 0 and 2.
Yeah.
Well, this is an even year.
So Cincinnati kind of does that too, but usually due to injury.
Cincinnati's supposed to be good this year.
They had their injury with the Bureau last year, the odd year.
It's the same way with the Ravens.
The Ravens are going to fall apart again, in my opinion.
It's an even year.
Next year, you'll see them again.
So they alternate.
They alternate.
Yeah.
That does seem to be the pattern.
Yeah.
And it's the durability of the quarterback play, I'm certain.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see.
This next one is interesting because I do agree with you on this.
To an extent, Browns, 18, Jags, 13.
We'll go into the Doug Peterson watch next.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, after this segment.
Yeah, OK.
Yeah, because it's one of the bullet points that I put up that I think we should talk
about.
So the Browns look like a good solid team.
They are looking pretty solid.
They bounced back from the train wreck against the Cowboys.
Yeah, yeah.
And that should have never happened.
But you know what?
I mean, OK, for one, Deshaun Watson has to show up, not just show up, but be a leader.
He's got to prove that he can take this team from 20 points back in the second half and
could do it on his shoulder.
Yeah.
Because if not, he's pretty much known as the pervert.
That's true.
Honestly, he lost so much respect.
And another wild card here is there's another accusation lawsuit.
Oh, gosh.
This one's a lot worse than what I could tell.
I think this may be even a step further, like, you know, forcible rape or something like
that or forcible sodomy.
I haven't heard the whole thing.
I got to be fair.
If this were true, they would explain some things that he knew this was out there and
hoping to God it wouldn't come to light.
So he's been playing scared.
Yeah.
So I don't I'll have to look at up if I'm wrong.
I apologize.
But I heard some people talking about it the other day.
And if they were correct, this one's the one that will take him down.
And then, you know, the Browns will have to scramble and try to find somebody.
You know, it's too bad.
That guy had all the talent in the whole world.
Couldn't keep it together.
Yeah.
So there was a running back like that years back.
Lawrence Phillips.
Yes.
Out of Nebraska.
Yeah.
And he went to play for the Rams and was doing great on the field.
But off the field, it was just a nightmare.
Drinking.
Drugs.
Beating up people, hitting women.
Even after he's kicked out of football, he got arrested again for throwing a woman down
a flight of stairs.
Oh, yeah.
Just utter train wreck of a guy.
I remember Dick Vermille thinking he could rehab him.
Oh, God.
Bring him over here.
Look in, right?
Yeah.
Go back to the wines for a meal.
Yeah.
So.
So, yeah, Jacksonville's not doing so well.
No.
Trevor Lawrence is just not enough.
Trevor Lawrence is exactly what I thought he is.
He's kind of looking average, isn't he?
Yeah, he's looking average.
Yeah.
People fell in love with his size.
I never did.
So anyhow, and I don't think you were really high on him either, ever, were you?
No.
No, he was interesting for a year or two.
But it's looking now that he was taking advantage of a situation to look better than he kind
of is.
Yeah.
And he's just kind of not all that.
The only saving grace is Doug Peterson was not in on the draft of Trevor Lawrence.
Okay, so he can skate there.
Yeah.
So, you know, I mean, I don't know what else to say about that.
I mean, they look flat, and they have.
I mean, they haven't really looked the same since the Chiefs beat him a couple of years
ago.
True, true.
They have really kind of fell apart after that.
And I don't think it's the fact that Chiefs beat you.
A lot of people got beat by the Chiefs.
Yeah.
And it seemed like when they played that game, they realized how overmatched they were.
Yeah, yeah.
It was kind of like, look how far we have to go still.
It was a confidence killer.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think there was some of that going on, like, man, we're not even in the same league.
They played him tough at first, and then you could see, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Oh, you know, it's kind of like the Texans during the divisional game in 2019, was it?
Or was it?
No, no, no.
It was a championship game in 2019.
I'm losing my memory.
OK.
Well, anyhow, what ended up happening is same day Kobe Bryant died.
I was up in Massachusetts working.
I went to a sports bar to watch the game, and I kept seeing on the screen when they're
getting ready to start the game, Kobe Bryant dead.
I'm like, what?
What the fuck happened?
And then I started looking at him.
Oh, wow, a helicopter crash.
Yeah.
But we were down 24 to nothing at home.
And by halftime, we were up by four points or three points.
So anyhow, that was a clear example of being outmatched and just showing.
So I think there's a little bit of that going on.
Yeah.
So anyhow, I think the Jags have a lot of work to do.
And if it's Doug Peterson or not, we'll remain to be seen.
Yeah.
49ers fall face first to the Vikings.
23.
I think you and I both took an L on that one.
Yeah.
So we're 30 to 27 Niners.
I want to see the game coming up with the 49ers.
Was that a trap game?
Let me look.
Well, yeah, we'll have to look to see who they're playing next.
That's about all I can really figure out because I didn't see there was any injuries.
Like if McCaffrey went down, they'd be fucked.
Yeah.
If Berby went down, they'd be screwed.
But they just played so poorly.
Yeah.
I just, on every facet.
Yeah.
They're playing the Rams.
Yeah.
No, they just played like crap.
Yeah.
What's that about?
And y'all look at Minnesota, you know, with a quarterback that wasn't their starter last year.
Is there something going on?
Internal conflict or something?
You know, I haven't heard anything about that.
I haven't either.
That would be interesting to find out.
Is part of the team blaming somebody for not winning the Super Bowl last year?
I mean, are they blaming the coach?
Are they blaming a certain player that maybe blew an assignment on Hardman?
Maybe so, maybe so.
I don't know.
Something's going on there to lose like that.
Yeah, yeah.
It sounds like there's more than just, you know, beginning of the season kind of jitters.
It looks like a lack of confidence.
Yeah.
It looks like, you know, defeatism already.
It's second game of the season and they just fall apart like that.
Yeah, that was very uncharacteristic.
Yeah.
Shanahan's a really, really good coach.
Yeah, he is.
Truth be known, if it wasn't for Mahomes, they might have won a Super Bowl or maybe two.
Yeah, I could see that.
So that's remaining to be seen.
If they would have just got beat by the Vikings, I'd say okay.
But they got spanked by the Vikings, which is very concerning.
I mean, like the Chiefs went out and getting spanked by it.
Well, I guess we did get spanked by the Reigners last year.
Yeah.
The same day the 49ers got spanked.
Yeah.
Yeah, I forgot.
Anyhow.
All right.
Next one.
Seahawks 23, Patriots 20.
Geno Smith is getting a little cocky.
Yeah.
I think that their inaugural, oh, okay, they're going to be good this year.
It's going to be over here soon.
Geno Smith is due, in my point of view, in my opinion,
he's due for a letdown.
He's never been that consistent guy.
And there's a reason.
He's not that consistent guy.
So.
It's not like he's a young quarterback.
He's getting towards the end of his career.
He's an older guy.
Did he dare people to blitz him or something?
He said something real cocky.
I'm like, dude, sit down and shut up.
Don't bring attention to yourself.
It's actually working for once.
Bad choice.
Yeah, bad choice.
So anyhow, I'm going to go ahead and just say, all right,
the Patriots aren't that good like we thought.
Yeah.
I had them 27-10 for the Seahawks.
So I was awful little on the score.
And I think I was pretty close to that.
Yeah.
Okay.
The Giants watch is on.
Commander is 21.
Giants 18.
They had them 17-14.
You also picked the commanders.
Yeah, the commanders are a team ascending.
The Giants are going in a big toilet bowl.
Yeah.
It's just one season that they were making a playoff run last year,
weren't they?
Yeah.
And now all of a sudden they look like they can't get out of their own way.
It's funny though.
I could have predicted this and so could have you.
They're a team going nowhere even though they made the playoffs.
They backed their way into the playoffs.
Yeah.
And I look at the Chiefs coached by Herm Edwards.
They got into the playoffs because Morton Anderson missed a kick and he never does.
Yeah.
And it was a chip shot.
It was like a 30-yarder.
There was a Chiefs team that made the playoffs because the special teams was on fire
and was blocking kicks and running kicks back.
That was the only thing that saved our ass that year.
Yeah.
Well, the Giants, well, the Chiefs that saved their year for there.
The Giants kind of did that last year.
And I didn't look for their team, Shaquam Barkley is gone.
I mean, they just don't have the elements in.
Yeah.
I don't know what else to say.
The commanders are looking good but not great like we thought.
They're rebuilding themselves after the Snyder era.
Their quarterback looked good.
Yeah, he did.
So we'll see what happens.
The 0-2 Rams against the Cardinals, 41 to 10.
I was so wrong on this.
I picked the Cardinals to win 24-21 in overtime.
I thought it was going to be a real close, tight game.
I think I did too.
The cards look good.
Yeah.
They look real good.
Tyler Murray was like number one in fantasy football points for quarterbacks, wasn't he?
Yeah.
How many times has that happened in his NFL career?
Probably pretty few.
Yeah, the Rams aren't as good a team as I thought they were going to be by any stretch.
So we'll see if they're a patsy or not this year.
I kind of find it hard to believe that a team that was that close all of a sudden became just a stepping stone.
Especially with Sean McVeigh as their head coach.
Yes.
Sean McVeigh traditionally has been a very good coach.
A Super Bowl winning coach too.
Yeah.
Arizona is definitely going to be one I'm going to watch starting now.
Yeah, definitely.
Arizona looks great.
Rams look horrible.
I don't know what else to say.
The 2-0 division leading Steelers, 13, the Donkeys a paltry sixth.
Bo Nix is not the guy.
Apparently not.
He looked great in preseason, but that was against scrub cornerbacks.
Total garbage.
Well there you go, man.
I think that's going to be the Broncos season right there.
Yeah.
What you saw.
Man, and that's another one I got wrong at the beginning of the year.
I thought Bo Nix was going to have a decent season.
I did too.
I think they were going to do what they needed to do to make sure he had a decent season.
But yeah, he's not doing well at all.
I had the Denver winning 28-17 over Pittsburgh.
I had Bo Nix getting about 3,800 yards and a lower number of touchdowns.
Maybe like 15 touchdowns and maybe seven interceptions.
Maybe a Kirk Cousins-like guy at best.
I don't think any of that's true.
Yeah, right now I'm willing to say he's a question mark.
He's not a bust because we don't know enough yet.
But he's certainly looking...
He's not looking good.
Yeah, it's almost worse when you look good in preseason and stink it up in the regular season.
If you look bad in preseason, then you're like, okay, he's got to wait another year.
Yeah, I don't think so.
We'll see if they keep starting them all season.
That might be a mistake.
Also, Sean Payton, I don't know.
Without maybe having Bounty Gate and stuff like that, maybe he's not that good of a head coach.
He made some really questionable moves over there in Denver, and he did his last in New Orleans, too.
I'm not so convinced that he's that great of a head coach anymore.
We'll see.
Sometimes your coaching style doesn't translate all that well to your organization.
Yeah.
We'll see what happens with that, but I don't think the donkeys are going to be very good at all this year.
No, I wish I could go back and redo my prediction on them because I don't think they're going to be very good.
No, the same here.
I don't know what else to say.
They look horrible.
Yeah.
All right.
The 2-0 Chiefs against the 0-2 Bengals.
And that's up this week.
There's 0-1 and 1-0 when they played, actually.
But this is exactly what I thought it was going to be.
It was going to go down to a real nut-tugger all the way to the end.
If someone would have told me the Chiefs were won by one point in the last seconds, I would have said, yeah, that sounds right.
That's not what I predicted, but yeah.
I think I did predict a really close one.
I remember that.
I was adamant about that.
Okay.
I could have seen the Bengals doing it, too.
And I'm not saying the Bengals are that great of a team, like matched up with the Chiefs.
It's just they always play us well.
Yeah.
As you can see in all the emotion that everybody put in it, you could tell that Burrow was sickened.
You could definitely tell that Jamar Chase was sickened.
I think Jamar Chase is still yelling for a flag.
Yes.
But the thing is, he helped the team lose.
He did.
He went nuts.
I thought he was going to punch the fucking referee.
I want to know what he said to make the ref throw the flag, because it was something he said.
It was something he said.
Because he didn't touch the guy.
Because he goes, get out of here, go.
And then Burrow's over there going, come on, come on, come on.
Then he turned around and whatever he said, man, the look on that referee's face is like, fuck you.
Yeah.
I thought he got kicked out of the game.
Because the referee went like that.
He did the thumb like that.
But I guess he didn't qualify as a...
I guess he didn't qualify.
I think he wanted to kick him out because he did the thumb like, go.
And I was like, ooh, okay.
So I'm going to put that down as like he called his mom something or something like that.
I mean, that was that look.
Yeah.
Wait a minute.
You just took this extremely personal.
As one of the announcers said, the refs will put up with a little bit from the player.
But they got to make sure the player knows that the ref is in charge.
And there's a line drawn and he said, go over that line.
The official is just for his own self-respect.
Yeah.
Is going to throw the flag to make sure that you listen to him the rest of the game.
Yeah.
And was it the Chiefs game or was it another game where there was a player on the sideline who threw a punch and hit another player?
But since it was...
That was not the Chiefs game that they showed.
Yeah.
Oh, go ahead.
Since it was off the field.
There was a Chief.
No flag and no review or anything.
So if the officials had seen it, that player would have been ejected.
Yes.
But since they didn't see it...
They played it like a minute after.
And actually there was a Chiefs game and there was another game that did that too.
Yeah.
So...
The league is going to step in and find the guy who threw the punch.
So he's not going to get away with it.
There wasn't a penalty per se, but yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
The Bengals.
This is to them.
Jamar Chase especially.
Number one, don't give your opponent material.
Yeah.
That he constantly does.
Constantly.
The Chiefs are in his head so bad, he has nightmares.
He probably vomits at night.
Yeah.
He needs to quit that.
Emotional players don't play well.
What was it?
The first Bengals receiver who got into the end zone was pointing at the crowd and cupping
his hand over his ear like, yeah, let me hear you now.
Can you imagine that crowd on his way to the tunnel?
There was twice in the game that the Bengals had to call a timeout early in the half because
they just couldn't freaking hear.
I'm going to go there.
That's one of my bullet points that we're going to go into.
Because Andy Reid left the game with three timeouts.
Anyhow.
Yep.
We'll get to that later because I've got some things to say about that.
Bengals, I don't think is that well of a coached team.
Not looking like it anymore.
No.
They were doing dirty shots.
They were mouthing.
They were engaging with the crowd.
They were doing all the stuff that's no-nos.
That stuff that you don't even really have to teach.
They know.
Yeah.
Upper echelon teams do not do that.
And the fact that they didn't used to do that means they're being taught or allowed to
do it now.
Yes.
Encouraged to do it.
Yeah, it's bad coaching.
It's horrible coaching.
Yeah.
And then another thing is, okay, they're, dang it, I'm trying to think of how to say
this correctly.
Okay, Jamar Chase, this is especially for you.
A little bit of Barrow and a little bit of the other guys too, whoever.
But watch Patrick Mahomes.
He goes out there like Brady.
Hey, Phil, what's going on, man?
Hey, how's that kid?
He knows all the referees.
He signs all their jerseys.
He gives them a lot of love.
Yeah.
And I'm not saying they're doing him favors, but I'm saying they're having a harder time
to call a penalty on him.
Yeah.
The smoozing works.
And it's legal.
It's perfectly legal until the league can show that the official's doing something inappropriate,
but Mahomes is not doing anything wrong.
No, no, no, they love him.
Every quarterback can do that.
He used to tell them, boy.
Every player is allowed to do that.
They just don't.
They look at Mahomes and think, there's our paycheck.
Yep.
And he's over here signing something.
Yeah, that's a smart point.
Mahomes is good for the whole league.
Yeah.
Everybody in the league makes more money because Mahomes is in it.
And Brady was the same way.
Brady was the same way.
So you saw Brady over there signing jerseys and bullshitting with them and stuff.
Mahomes looked over there and said, that guy's a witness quarterback in football history.
Yeah.
Probably the most yards from scrimmage of any quarterback.
Yeah.
So I'm saying you emulate him, not Jeff George.
No.
So anyhow.
And when we get to talk about the Chiefs-Falcons game coming up, there's a Tom Brady element
that should be fun.
OK, cool.
Hope you help me remember.
OK, I will.
I'm old.
I forget things.
Bears killing another quarterback?
Oh, yeah.
I'm starting to hear that.
It's like, yeah, there's the Bears being the Bears again.
The quarterback is getting clobbered.
We're going to go into this a little bit later.
OK.
But CJ Stroud is coming back dirt like we thought.
Yep.
He's going to have a good year, but not the year he had last year.
They're taking away his deep threat, so now he doesn't quite know what to do.
Yeah.
If he adapts during the season, he could catch fire again.
But right now, it's looking like they've got that part of him figured out.
The offensive coordinator, I kind of blame for some of this.
I think you should have had some plays like, all right, if they're going to stop a deep
threat, then we're going to do this.
Yeah.
And I haven't seen that.
Yeah, you can do the deep in.
Or the deep comeback.
Yeah.
You know, so you throw a deep, sort of.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
The mid-term, the tight end territory.
Yeah, so you make them think you're throwing a deep, so they cover deep, and then you've
got all the stuff underneath.
You still get 15, 20 yards.
Yeah.
Do it.
Yeah.
So why not use Diggs as a decoy?
And we'll go into Kelsey being a decoy now.
A lot of people are motherfucking him, but we'll go into that a little bit later.
Yeah.
That is what it is.
As long as Diggs is on board being a decoy.
Sometimes the ego doesn't like it that they're being used as.
Diggs does have somewhat of an ego.
Yeah.
But how badly does he want the team to win?
Yeah.
And Mixon looked okay, but he didn't look as good as he did in the first game.
So we'll see what happens.
Yeah.
Mixon is no fumbles ever.
Oh, wait.
He's had six.
He has.
All right.
Falcons 22, Eagles 21.
Are the Eagles hatched?
Man.
I think they're going to have a good year, but not as solid.
The Eagles?
Yeah.
I can see the Eagles.
11 and 6.
Yeah, making a run for the division.
10 to 7 would be a good year.
Yeah.
I'm going to go with 11 and 6.
Yeah.
I'm going to go with 11 and 6.
Yeah.
I'm going to go with 11 and 6.
Yeah.
I'm going to go with 11 and 6.
Yeah.
I'm going to go with 11 and 6.
10 to 7 would not surprise me.
Yeah.
Atlanta looked way better than I thought they were going to look.
They have been.
Kirk Cousins is doing just enough to win games.
He is.
I mean, I know they're one and one.
And he's got a great supporting cast.
Yeah.
Or a good enough supporting cast.
I'm sorry.
I was confusing with New Orleans, but he's got a good enough supporting cast that he
can do things and take advantage.
I remember making the comment during the Prediction Show that the Eagles head coach was going
to wreck their season somehow.
Yeah.
By doing something stupid or saying something stupid or punching a player or something.
Yeah.
Well, there's already stuff about Sirianni.
Yeah.
You're like, when he cannot coach properly, when things go wrong.
Yeah.
When things are going right, he's great.
When things go wrong, he can hold the team together.
Which is useless because when things are going great, anyone can do great.
I could step in there.
Yeah.
I'm thinking the head coach is going to be their big pothole for this season.
Yeah.
Sirianni seems to me like he is immature.
Yeah.
Him bantering with the Chiefs fans was all the indication I needed.
Just the lack of discipline and self-control to get angry and start yelling back at the
Chiefs fans.
Yes.
Even if that's a thing in Philadelphia, it's not a thing here.
It's not a thing anywhere else.
Yeah.
So the lack of awareness of where he is and what he's doing and the consequences of it,
he just gave him an impulse.
But it's not just that.
No, it isn't.
It's so many other things.
I don't think Sirianni is a guy to... I know they made it to the Super Bowl and they almost
won, but ever since then, I've been seeing a lot of holes coming up and I think it's
directly responsible to the coaching staff.
I think the big crack in the dam was when the thug asshole he had hired as head of security
punched a player on the sideline.
Yes.
And then they found out this guy really has no official standing and he's just there to
be a thug and enforcer.
Yes.
That said, Ernie...
Yeah.
That was the first big crack in the Eagles facade of what a great team.
Well, no you're not.
Look.
Yo Vinnie, come here.
Now, if that guy gives you any shit, you took care of him, okay?
You got it, boss.
I mean, what else is there to say?
And it could be he was faking that whole thing, but either way, if he was faking that or really
was that, bad news for the NFL.
It's just a stupid idea.
Yeah.
And I'm pretty sure he got it talking to after that too.
I would hope.
I'm pretty sure Cadell was like, get Sirianni on the phone right now.
I don't care what the fuck he's doing.
Get him on the phone now.
Like at this point, you can enter the building, but the people you bring with you, we're going
to start looking at them.
Yes.
Yep.
So, I mean, there's nothing more to say than that.
I mean, all right.
So I've got some bullet points here that I want us to go over.
That sound good?
Okay.
Let's see.
We haven't done the Jets-Titans.
Oh shit.
I think, yeah, that's the last one.
We have Jets-Titans.
Yeah, Jets-Titans.
I'm sorry.
I jumped right over that.
I'm sorry.
Jets-Titans was the last one.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
I blew that big time.
I thought Tennessee was going to win 31 to 6.
I can't remember what I picked.
You picked the Jets because.
Oh, okay.
That was.
Yeah.
So overall, I missed seven and you missed five.
Okay.
Because you did two better than me.
All right.
And I thought there were going to be a ton of flags in this.
Believe it.
You'll make it up.
Yeah.
You'll make it up.
Probably so.
It's going to go back and forth.
Oh, yeah, it is.
It seems like the big story was the Tennessee head coach benching their starting quarterback,
but doing it in a really brutal fashion.
Yeah.
And that destroyed the guy's ego and confidence.
Does he not think Levis is it?
Then why did they promote him to be it?
Yeah.
And then of course the TV coverage is they're constantly focusing in on the quarterback on
the sideline when he's just gotten this devastating news.
Oh, I hate that.
Because they're hoping he would cry on camera.
I hate that.
That is so cruel.
Yeah.
It's like when a tornado happens and the news is right there shoving a camera into somebody's
crying face.
Is your kid dead?
Huh?
You haven't found your dog yet?
Yeah.
That's the way the NFL coverage is.
That's a great way of putting it.
Yeah, they focus in on him.
I'm surprised he didn't pull a Richie Blackmore.
It just smashed CBS's camera at the Cal Jam.
Yep.
He took the...
The only thing is he used a nice fender strap to smash it with him.
Like, dude, use a mic stand.
What some players have done is they'll just put a towel over their head so no one can
see their facial expression.
You should have done that.
Yeah.
Look, man, I mean, Lovis, I'm sure, he has feelings.
He has a family.
He loves his animals.
He is a human being.
And anybody that I do that to, I don't care how bad they played or they could have flipped
everybody off in the stadium.
Yeah.
It's like, don't do that.
That is unclassy.
But they want everyone to look at him and look at how sad he is and bring the point.
This guy got benched.
Well, pretty much the whole point of everything you see on TV is to manipulate your emotions.
And to show this quarterback losing his composure on the sideline would manipulate people's
emotions and they'd either say, ha ha, what a loser, or oh, I feel sorry for the guy.
But either way, it makes an emotional reaction to the viewer that keeps them watching.
So that's what they're doing.
They're looking for that emotional manipulation of the audience and they don't care who they
hurt.
They did it very well, too.
I didn't appreciate it.
I know you didn't either.
How many times on the news have you seen somebody loses their child in a drive-by shooting
and the news cameras are right there in mama's face?
Yeah, she's over there bawling hysterical.
Tell us about your kid.
Talk about what was his last birthday like?
Does anything get the woman crying and losing her mind on TV?
Because that's what they want to show.
NFL should be better than that.
You know, I like Fox 4 a lot because they don't seem to do a lot of that.
Which is a change for Fox.
They seem to focus in on a lot of subjects that I like.
Talk about characteristics of Gen Zers, Millennials, stuff that's interesting.
They seem to be a little bit, they'll tell you about the murder, but they're not going
to be there where the poor mother's getting interviewed.
It seems to me like, in my opinion, Channel 5 is really good at that.
Oh hey, is there blood and guts?
Go there, go there.
In Channel 9, it's all about the weather.
They're going to inflate the weather into something where you need to start stockpiling
food and guns when it turns out it's just going to be windy.
Yeah, and 41 is boring.
Anyhow, okay so.
Tennessee is doing crappy.
Jets are actually kind of pulling together.
Aaron Rodgers had a decent game.
Yeah, he did, but I mean really, he had a decent game with the defense.
And this is why I thought that they were going to do good with a quarterback that has the
smarts like Peyton Manning.
Remember Denver's last year that they won the Super Bowl.
Peyton Manning couldn't throw.
His arm just fucking blew out on him.
That's true.
Yeah, and when they brought him in for, is it Osweiler?
Osweiler.
They brought him in for Osweiler or a losing.
They brought Peyton Manning back even though he couldn't really throw and they won the
Super Bowl out of his smarts.
He knew what defenses to look for.
He knew what to do, what not to do, but he could throw just good enough to get it done.
And this is the way I look at Rodgers, only he has a better arm at this point in his life.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think Rodgers is smart enough to know he's not going to do any running.
He's a pocket passer.
He's going to run routes that only he can throw to and only the receiver can catch.
That's a key thing is does he have enough control of his ego to realize what he can't
do anymore and just do the things that he can do.
Let's talk about this in five games.
Okay.
Five more games.
We're going to find out whether he became this guy or whether he's like, I, I, I, me,
me, me.
Like we perceive him now, whether it's true or not, that's the way it looks.
So anyhow, we will see in five more games, maybe even before that, but we'll see.
I'm going to say five.
It's pretty much everything we're hearing is spin.
We just got to figure out which is closer to the truth and what it all basically means.
So if things change tomorrow, it's because today's version was spin.
You know who we need?
Who that?
Bill O'Reilly, no spin zone.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
He'll tell us.
Or who's the guy?
Somebody Harvey.
And that's the rest of the story.
Oh, Paul Harvey.
Paul Harvey, where he gave you the rest of the story.
I've been facetious about Bill O'Reilly.
Paul Harvey was the greatest, greatest broadcaster.
That's where Jim Rohn learned to do his pauses.
I believe it.
Yeah.
By the time you figured out almost what he was saying, he said, good day.
Yep.
Okay, connect, disconnect.
Oh.
That was Paul Harvey's greatest gift is he would set you up and at the very last second,
right at the end, he was like, oh, this is what he's talking about.
It all makes sense now, but it's over.
Yeah.
He was just as great on TV.
He was.
I think his Channel 9 had him in these little excerpts.
He'd do the same thing only with this little wry smile.
Yep.
He'd be like, oh, oh.
He'd take you right up to it and let you see it for yourself.
Yeah.
Greatest broadcaster ever.
So Rastar did that.
Another one was Rush Limbaugh.
Even though people hate him, the people that hated him hated him.
The people that loved him loved him.
He did that perfectly.
He divided that line perfectly.
Yep.
Anyhow, but he always knew how to enthrall the people that are listening to him and piss
off the people that didn't.
Yes.
He knew right where to stick that sharp stick.
Yeah.
And I'm not saying I agreed with him or not.
I'm just saying, man, as broadcasters go, if someone compared you to him or Paul Harvey,
you're doing something right.
Yeah.
So, all right.
The first one I have on the docket is, do the Chiefs play down to their opponent or
are their opponents playing up to them or is it both?
Chiefs have a history of playing down to their opponent, not recently, but in the past.
You're a great example.
Yeah.
I think it is both.
Every team is going to come in saying, hey, if we beat the Super Bowl champion or even
if we were just the AFC champion who went to the Super Bowl, it's still a big deal.
And I think the Chiefs are kind of playing down to their opponent.
I agree.
Part of that is coaching is like, okay, we don't have to go this far.
This should be good enough.
Andy Reid not showing his hand.
Yeah.
I know that Xavier Worley's probably got all these gadget plays that they're going to insert
later on.
And my assumption, Andy Reid, is this.
We can win this game straight up.
We'll need the bells and whistles, but if we need to at the very end, we will.
Yeah.
But Andy Reid on this.
Don't wait too long to bring in those bells and whistles.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, he didn't really have to with Mahomes.
He just went over there and said, hey, get us in field goal range.
50, 55, something like that is fine.
You know, something well within Butch Chris range.
He said, okay, how about a 51?
Okay, go get it, Harrison.
And he did.
So I think so too.
I think that the Chiefs play down to their opponent and I think their opponent plays
up to them.
Yeah.
And I think sometimes whenever you get a very vanilla offense, that is what they wanted
to do.
So yeah, okay.
So we both agree with both and I think we'd probably, you know, I mean, I don't know where
else to go with that one.
That's good enough.
All right.
Next one.
Jamar Chase, spoiled brat.
Looking like it, doesn't it?
Yes.
I mean, he needs to let some of this crap go.
I mean, especially the fact that even on the sideline, he was still yelling and complaining
to people.
And I think like, you got to realize there's nothing that had changed at that point.
You're doing no good whatsoever.
Everybody's moved on.
It's written in stone now.
Don't worry about it.
Yes.
But he was just so obsessed with, apparently he thought that the Chiefs player had done
the hip drop tackle on him.
When it was clear to see, if you looked at the Jumbo Trial, he could have clearly seen
it.
They showed it seven times.
Yeah.
And all he had to do was look up and see it.
Or one of his teammates say, look, dude, they showed the replay.
It wasn't that.
Well, I'm going to go into that.
He couldn't let it go.
Part of this is Joe Burrow's fault.
And let me go into this.
And I think you probably already noticed.
Mahomes goes out there to Kelsey or someone getting ready to blow up and they stop.
He goes, hey, come on, go to the sideline.
That's respect.
Joe Burrow went over there and likely even got more infuriated.
I mean, he didn't stop anything.
He finally was able to push him away.
Chase wasn't paying any attention to it.
No, he didn't.
He didn't have any respect for it like that here.
And part of that, I think, is the reason that he's not on the field half the time.
Yeah.
I think they may look at him as a glass player, you know, possibly.
Physically and emotionally.
Yes.
You know, remember when the chief said, Derek Thomas, if you said the right things to him,
you could get him out of his game and he'd just commit penalties the whole rest of the
game.
Yeah.
I agree.
You pull his chain often enough or in the right way and you pretty much neutralize him
for the game because he's just so pissed he can't play.
Yeah.
That's not an asset anymore.
It really isn't.
No, it isn't.
Okay.
The next one, hang on here.
I got to give you something here real quick.
You're probably looking for that.
Yeah.
I'm getting it ripped down.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
All right.
Cool.
All I got is, oh, we got two Monday games.
Yes.
And then they didn't do it first in the season.
They're doing it third game of the season.
Yeah.
Interesting.
All right.
The next one, the Bengals not disciplined?
No.
Absolutely.
They're having lots of this discipline problems, aren't they?
Yes.
This is something I'm going to just move on from that because that's pretty apparent.
I mean, it would be redundant to talk about it at this point.
Okay.
Man, how did the coach lose the team so badly?
Okay.
I think it's a combination of the quarterback being gone a lot.
True.
And I also think it's a combination of people like Jamar Chase and also losing some of your
key components like mixing.
I think it's a combination of everything.
I think that they don't have faith in the front office and the head coach.
I think it's pretty apparent.
There are a lot of times when a head coach will tell the starting quarterback, you know,
this is your team.
Go be the leader.
Take over the team.
You know, you're like second in command.
Go do it.
I don't think Joe Burrow is that guy.
I don't either.
I don't think he's dynamic and forceful enough of a personality.
I mean, he's got a strong ego and he's got a strong personality.
But I think at a certain point, it's the other players.
He's like, ah, yeah, whatever.
Just do what you want.
Yeah.
Whereas Mahomes is like, no, I've shown you how to do it.
I've shown you the right way how to get a ring.
Do it my way.
Yeah.
And people listen.
Burrow, it's like, dude, you were gone so much last season and you can't win in the
playoffs.
And I don't think he's got the respect and the weight that the head coach thinks he should
have in the locker room.
And the team's just doing whatever they want.
Yeah.
As Burrow is not controlling the team, it's certainly not controlling the offense.
And also let me bring up this point.
If you went by popularity, smarts and everything, how many commercials do you see Joe Burrow
on?
Zip.
How many see Mahomes or even Josh Allen on or Lamar Jackson?
A bunch of them.
Yes.
And they're national commercials.
Yeah.
They're not just local.
Yeah, they're national commercials.
So he's not respected nationally.
Yeah, I hadn't thought about that.
But yeah, I mean, why not you the Joe Cool image?
He'd be perfect for a number of products, but I just don't think he has that onscreen
weight.
I don't think anyone would buy it.
He's not a perennial winner.
No.
Lamar Jackson has been much better.
I mean, we're talking winning percentage and all that.
Josh Allen, Jeff definitely.
Yeah.
So that right there telling me that nobody wants him on a commercial.
I'm sure Joe Burrow is doing a lot of Cincinnati commercials like, you know, Bill's Furniture
Shop or Come On Down to the Mattress King or whatever.
Yeah, it's kind of like Hy-Vee and Mahomes and Kelsey.
Yeah.
I got them both wrapped up.
Yeah.
I noticed Kelsey isn't on the new commercials.
You think he became too big with Tay-Tay?
It could be and it could be that he just doesn't have the one doesn't want to take the time
to do them anymore.
No, he's probably following her around.
Yeah.
Whenever he's not playing football.
You know, doing a commercial like that probably takes every bit of two days.
Yeah.
To do it.
Hey, probably just doesn't have enough time for those bigger fish.
Yeah.
There's 10 million here.
I mean, you just sold this podcast.
What?
100 billion?
Yeah.
There's bigger fish.
I think Hy-Vee probably could not put up that type of money.
Mahomes does it because, you know, hey man, here's another check.
I'll just go do it.
So, all right.
Next one.
Are we done with that one?
Yeah.
I think we've exercised that out pretty good.
Mahomes makes mistakes, but he doesn't seem to care.
He knows they'll figure out how to win one way or another.
Yeah.
He lets stuff go.
Yeah.
He doesn't care about stats.
He is a selfless player.
He's like, I'm going to throw two picks, but I'm still going to win.
And you know, the next day he's going to go back and look at those picks and figure out
what went wrong and how it happened.
But he's not going to do it while the game's still going.
Faith.
Yeah.
He has complete faith not only in himself, his receivers, but the defense.
Yeah.
They're going to make the key stop.
They got a scoop and score.
They did what it took to help win, and Mahomes did what he did, last minute drive to make
it work.
That is a perfect example of everyone on this team is a winner.
I know it and I'm not worried about it.
Yeah.
They're creating a situation that's conducive to success.
Yeah.
Last year they had one home game.
Still one.
Yeah.
And all you could hear the whole time was, Waiterly comes to our house.
Well, he did.
So.
All right.
I was, after Budker made that kick, I was thinking, what about all those people who
in the off season said we should fire Harrison Budker because he has conservative family
values?
They're fucking idiots.
Aren't they?
Yeah.
I bet they're pretending they never said it now.
Oh yeah.
Well, the thing is, is anyone can have an opinion.
Let it go.
He was at a Catholic speech.
Yeah.
Just the idea that they would demand someone be fired because they legally said something
that was completely legal and completely moral, but the other person just didn't agree with.
Yeah.
That's reason to take his job away.
These are lobbyist people who say people go, Oh, we need freedom, man.
Okay.
Then, Budker has freedom like you do.
You go to Catholic school and tell them they need to do whatever.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Oh, go to a satanic revival.
Whatever.
No one's good.
Yeah.
It's like people will complain about celebrity opinions, but only on the opinions or they
disagree with the celebrity.
Yes.
If the celebrity is saying whatever they would agree with too, they have no problem with celebrity
opinions.
That's how come Robert De Niro destroyed his legacy.
Yeah.
He became an angry little bitch.
He did.
It's like, if you want to be that way, be that way, but why destroy your money making
potential just to get that off your chest?
All right.
I'll enjoy that.
At least James Gandolfini allegedly did so much coke it blew up his heart.
At least he played the role.
Yeah.
I'm not making fun of it.
That's tragic.
It is.
They did intervention.
I said this on the last solo cast.
They did an intervention.
One of the high up execs at HBO.
They told him, Hey, we're not getting along very well.
You need to come over.
We need to hash stuff out so we can go on.
He comes over there and it was a hidden intervention.
He dared everyone to fire him.
So what do you do with that?
So okay.
The next one is Andy Reid's clock management.
Suddenly he looks like a genius.
He does, doesn't he?
Yeah.
He had all three left.
Yeah.
I was mentioning that to my wife.
Every time each half the Bengals called an early timeout because they were disorganized.
Yeah.
And we both were like, Ooh, that's not going to be good.
They couldn't use that.
They could have used that.
They could have stopped the clock a couple of times.
Maybe had 35 seconds.
Yeah.
You know, at 35 seconds, as you know, you can do a lot in NFL.
Yeah.
And plus, you know, they hate us and they want to, you know, want to beat us.
And that's what I was pointing to next there.
Okay.
And suddenly Andy Reid is like the prime example of a head coach in clock management.
Yeah.
And that was his biggest detraction.
Even when he came here, we were like, Oh, Andy Reid, you suck at clock management.
Yeah.
That was his knock.
Yeah.
Guess not.
Not now.
Maybe he turned it over to somebody else in the organization.
Maybe somebody up in the booth and somebody says, All right, Andy, look, we've got 15
seconds left.
Move along.
Yeah, that could be.
You know, it'll win you some games.
Well, look at his clock management in the Super Bowl against Philly.
Yeah.
Actually, this one too.
They took that last play.
They ran that last play.
And I think maybe there might have been a little assumption like someone's not going
to know the rules.
They're going to think the game's over if the clock strikes zero, zero, zero.
No, the play is live.
And then you go to the second quarter and see what happens.
Yeah.
But first person score a touchdown at that point wins.
Yeah.
And so when it went zero, zero, zero, I think some people let up.
I think they're like, Oh, okay, we won.
So anyhow, that that all we talked about that enough and everything.
So all right.
The Bengals wasted at least two is what I have down and you just went into that.
Yeah.
Yes.
Two of them because they didn't know what to do.
They're like looking at a sideline and he's like looking at them.
Zach Taylor blew that.
Yeah.
Two times he blew that.
Something I've always thought that no head coach has ever agreed with me apparently.
But in that situation, I would take the delay of game.
I would too.
Because you can get that five yards back, but you'll never get that timeout back.
That always drives me crazy.
Yeah.
It's like you only have two timeouts.
You blew one of them.
You won't take the five yards back.
Yeah.
I mean, what's what's the big prohibition against, you know, losing five yards?
Keep the damn timeout.
Yeah.
You'll never get another one.
I'm surprised that that's not in their statistical breakdown.
Yeah.
Like take the five yards.
Traditionally, it works out.
Yeah.
You know, there's certain situations where you don't.
You know, it's like fourth and one and you need the game winning touchdown or something.
Yeah.
But just like, you know, second and four on your own 25 yard line.
Take the five yard penalty.
Who cares?
Pun it away if you need to, but save the freaking timeout.
Yeah.
Coaches just don't do it.
In the NFL, they just don't do that.
I don't know why.
Yeah.
I agree with you 100%.
I've always thought that too.
Okay.
So we agree that Zach Taylor is not that good with time management.
Apparently not.
Well, let me put it like this too.
I've got another way of putting it.
Hey, do you want to talk?
You turn around and look at us.
Guess not.
She said no.
Okay.
All right.
Andy Reid became a genius when he got Patrick Mahomes.
Zach Taylor is not a genius and he has Joe Burrow.
And who's supposed to be better than Patrick according to everyone in Cincinnati.
Yeah.
And Skippy Bayless.
Oh, yeah.
Skip Nerd, Baldus.
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, listen, all they're doing is fooling themselves.
They ain't fooling anyone else.
Yeah.
So go ahead around Cincinnati.
Have your fucking chili and...
Yeah.
Talk about Joey Burrow chili.
Chili.
We have barbecue.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyhow.
All right.
Travis Kelsey is getting a lot of heat saying he's not focused.
I don't agree with that.
No, I just think they're using them differently this year.
They're using them differently.
They're using them primarily as a decoy and they want him for the playoffs.
Yeah.
He's not getting any younger.
And you know, if you've lived in Kansas City the last few years, you know that Travis Kelsey,
if he wasn't focused and the head wasn't in it completely, he would have retired.
Yeah.
Because that's what's keeping him in the game is he loves it so much.
He's got a bigger career.
He's kind of like the rock.
Yeah.
He can make more money outside of football.
Yeah.
But he's there because he wants to be.
Last year he opted out of a thousand yard season.
He only needed like 30 yards or something.
Yeah.
He said, no, I'd rather win the Super Bowl.
I'm sitting out this last game.
And it worked out.
Yeah.
He's a selfless player.
So what are they doing now?
They're like, Travis, run around the middle.
We'll get him on the side or whatever.
By the third quarter, they're going to forget you're even in the game.
Yeah.
And then when you're open, we'll throw to you.
But if not, don't worry about it.
Yeah.
They have to put two people on you constantly because of that ability of getting open.
You never see him on the sideline agitating for, you know, throw me the ball more because
he knows what's going on.
He's just doing the Super Bowl.
He's been read in.
Yeah.
Well, that's because he's flat wasn't in the game.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think Travis Kelsey is the ultimate selfless player.
And I think him and Mahomes are unmatched on that.
They really don't care.
They want another Super Bowl ring and they'll do anything to get it.
And part of that has become the decoy.
Now, if the teams think he's irrelevant and they think that he is washed up, how come
they still double team him?
I know.
So, hey, people are saying that don't know football, in my opinion.
So, he only got, he only got five yards.
That means he's washed up.
Fucking idiots.
Yeah.
They made a big deal.
There's a stat they'd thrown to him twice and he hadn't caught either of them yet.
And they're like, what's wrong with Travis?
What's the, oh my God, there's something wrong.
You know, I feel sorry for Tay-Tay though.
The play was called back.
They broke off like 85 yards or whatever.
And you saw the flag and everyone knew it was offensive holding and you knew that they
knew who did it too.
Yeah.
And she's up there, and I'm like, calm down, Tay-Tay.
Yeah.
Not going to happen.
Not this one.
I think here's the theory.
The guy in the broadcast truck, the director of the broadcast calls up to the box where
Taylor's sitting and says, okay, for the next three or four plays, we're going to have the
camera trained on you.
So, if something happens, you know, go nuts and go crazy because the camera is going to
be on you.
And then, you know, one of those will just slice in.
Yeah.
Because there's no way Taylor's jumping up and down and screaming and yelling at, getting
that excited on everything can play.
They told her in advance, lose your mind over the next good play that happens and we'll
get that on the air.
It's just, it's elemental.
Why wouldn't you do that?
It's so easy to do.
That's the thing.
In TV, they don't wait for good moments to happen.
They create them.
They manufacture them.
So now Taylor Swift has gone from a distraction to she's part of the game plan for the broadcast
coverage.
I agree.
She's a participant.
It helps her brand.
Yeah.
They're probably asking her to wear certain things and bring certain people.
Oh, like the boots?
Yeah.
You know, just they're making it, it's a manufactured moment.
Every time you see Taylor Swift in the booth reacting, it's a manufactured moment.
I agree.
Yeah, I agree 100%.
All right.
Well, we've got some more bullet points we're going to bring along to you on the second
podcast that we break these up into.
But until then, we're going to have a little fun like we did last week.
Yay.
And the dumbest statements ever by commentators.
And they keep coming up with more dumb ones.
Oh, I know.
We're never going to run out of material here.
I looked again.
I'm like, there's like two million of the dumbest ones.
I'm like, okay.
Okay.
The only thing is sometimes they double them up.
They're so dumb.
Oh, gosh.
So anyhow.
All right.
The first one is the winner of this game is going to be whoever has the most points on
the scoreboard at the end of the game.
Oh, I remember hearing that.
That was John Madden.
I remember that.
That was I do too.
Gosh, it wasn't that long ago.
Really?
It may be seven, eight years ago.
It was right before he retired.
That could have been one of the things.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like, oh, this guy's losing it.
He's losing it.
Oh, yeah.
So yeah, I mean, yeah.
That speaks everything.
We don't have to even analyze it.
I remember hearing one say, well, you know, both teams are trying to win.
Oh, OK.
Good.
That's kind of what they're supposed to do.
Are you insinuating there's a lot of people betting against themselves in football?
Is that what you're saying?
And what did Herman say?
You play to win the game?
Yeah.
Oh, he goes, you play to win the game.
Oh, you tie your shoes so it's tied.
Yes.
He was such a preacher.
Anyhow.
Oh, my God.
He was a fun guy.
He was.
I like him.
I still like him.
I like him on ESPN.
It's not like he's dead or anything.
He's still around.
He's just not here.
Yeah, he's a commentator.
He's great.
He's a broadcaster.
Yeah.
Next one.
It's hard to matriculate the ball.
That was Hank Stram, wasn't it?
John Lynch.
No, he borrowed a page from Hank Stram.
From Hank Stram, yeah.
Matriculate the ball down the field, boys.
Yeah, which means basically putting the ball down the field.
Yeah.
Which is a complete misuse of the word.
Matriculate means to progress through school.
Yeah.
Graduate each grade and progress through school.
So he used it wrong, and then John Lynch reused it wrong.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know how many people don't know that?
That's not the actual definition.
And, you know, people don't care.
So, really.
You know what?
Yeah.
I think Hank Stram was trying to prove a point that football was school.
Yeah.
But I don't know if that's true, so who knows?
Anyhow.
All right.
Next one.
Don't worry about the game you just won or the team we just blew out.
Or blown.
Blown out.
Let's think about what we need to do going forward.
And they had blown out.
Emmett Smith.
I'm sure it was emphasized completely different, but I couldn't figure out how.
Yeah.
What kind of phrasing could you use to make that make sense?
It had to have been like he didn't like what he said.
Yeah.
And he thinks back whether he thought of a sexual reference or if he thought it just
sounded goofy.
But he obviously paused a couple of times, tried to retract, couldn't, and then went
on with something else that was worse.
Yeah.
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and hope somebody was actually interrupting him
and breaking his train of thought.
Okay.
We're going to say that.
No, he's not in broadcast.
Yeah.
I generally don't think of Emmett Smith as someone who stumbles over words.
You know?
No.
He seemed fairly intelligent.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
Probably something else going on, but anyhow, it's still well noted.
All right.
That's a well executed play.
They didn't execute very well.
Whoa.
What?
This is a recent one too.
Last year, Kirk Herbstreet.
Kirk.
Kirk Herbstreet.
I can't ever say his name right.
I think I get what he was trying to say.
I do too.
That the play would have worked perfectly if they'd been able to do it right.
Yeah.
But that's not what he said.
The way he said it was so redundant is like a.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thanks for that insight, Kirk.
Got any more?
That was a great play that was done horribly.
Then it wasn't a great play.
This next one I love.
You got a score to put points on the board.
Have any guess of who that could be?
Tony Romo?
Close.
Joe Theismann.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, Joe.
You have a score to put points on the board.
Good Lord.
Okay, Joe.
Thank you.
You know, there's a lot of those quarterbacks that we watched growing up that just weren't
smart enough to get in the modern game.
They wouldn't have.
They wouldn't have succeeded.
All right.
We keep trying to trap them.
I know.
Nobody's falling for it.
It was like they're avoiding us like M pox or something.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Whatever it's the sheep disease.
The Zika virus.
Remember that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wes Nile.
They think we have this.
I don't know.
Anyhow.
All right.
Next one.
This is a dual one.
Al Michael started off.
Well, it appears that he has pulled his groin.
John Madden.
And it's a shame.
Such a good groin.
Or great, great groin, not good.
Wow.
You can hear him say that to you.
Oh, it's such a great groin.
And nobody has a groin like him.
I love John Madden.
Boom pow.
Wow.
It was just like cringe nationwide when he said that.
Yeah, you know Al Michael's like.
I think it's weird enough when they start talking about, you know, well, he could beat
you with his legs.
Why can't you just say he can run the ball?
Yeah.
They always have to say beat you with his legs.
Yeah, yeah.
And it would be about the same.
Yeah.
I mean, calling attention to his legs and then using the word beat.
Doesn't everyone just think of masturbation right off the bat?
Yes.
That's probably what they were trying to do.
They're trying to get your attention by saying something that's on the border of inappropriate.
Yeah, the tongue and cheek.
Oh, okay.
Next one.
Mike Maylock.
I'll give you a golf analogy.
Dan Hicks.
Okay.
Maylock.
He's a really good golfer.
The guy called him on it and he's like, he's a really good golfer.
Wow.
Those guys were not on the same page.
No.
They had not rehearsed.
I would have appreciated that one.
I mean, oh yeah, well, let's hear it.
He's a great golfer.
That would be classic if anyone heard that live.
They would have been like, oh yeah.
All right.
Next one, you can see they ran it right up the a-hole.
That's not good.
Even Madden didn't really say that.
That's not good.
That's not right.
You know, A-type A-one says that during a team meeting, they're secretly giggling and
poking each other's a-hole.
No kidding.
Coach said a-hole.
Yeah.
Anyhow.
Okay.
Then we have, remember, for it to be a forward pass, it's got to go forward.
Now, this guy is no rocket scientist.
As a matter of fact, I would not claim him much of anything.
Oh my God.
Good old Phil Sims came up with that one.
Oh, and think of all the oxygen he wasted by saying that sentence.
There are people who were trying to breathe in Guatemala who could have used that oxygen
that he wasted by saying something stupid on air.
Could you imagine everyone else in that room?
How do you recover from that?
Do you let that one just fly in the air?
You say something like, you had a lot of concussions, folks.
Hell, I've had a lot of concussions.
That's why I'm the way I am.
So anyhow, all right.
We got a couple more.
You want to go into them or not?
Sure.
All right.
Then the rest will be for the second podcast.
I'm not squeezing the balls.
That's not part of my process.
These are ballsy comments, but it doesn't say who... Oh, this is from Pat Summerall.
Oh.
Here's a couple other ballsy comments.
Both quarterbacks are not showing their balls, shy of throwing the balls.
Balls.
This used to be the... Pat Summerall.
That was during the time when he was drinking heavily on air.
I would say so.
Yeah, yeah.
I would say heroin.
Dude had a major drinking problem.
Yeah.
Do you think maybe heroin was mixed in with that?
No, I would say for people with boozers, they usually did coke to kind of wake them up.
He wasn't a heroin addict that we know of.
No, but he was an alcoholic, that's for sure.
Yeah, definitely.
Smith isn't the only one who is happy after a thorough ball fluffing.
Frank Gore has some tumbling problems early in the year, but Gore doesn't seem to have
any trouble holding onto Smith's balls.
There's more, but wait, there's more.
The Broncos who come from the capital of ball doctoring may want to keep Jay Cutler's balls
in a humidor so their rookies' passes don't sail on them.
The Broncos' backs and receivers may have trouble grasping soggy balls.
You know, it's got to be intentional, because they could say football every time they say
ball.
Yeah, they could, and it would take all the dirty out of it.
So they've got to be doing that on purpose.
I mean, it's got to be intentional.
Yeah, I would say so.
So all right, let's go ahead and cut that off right there, and we're going to call this
the first part of the podcast, or the first one, and we'll see you fuckers on the next
one.
Did you really sit there and listen to all that garbage that was being, do you actually
believe one inch of it?
I didn't think so.
Hang on, game over.