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I've got an interesting story that I found the other day.
Lenny Likovitz, I believe is how it's spelled.
Lenny Likovitz, L-I-C-O-V-I-T-Z.
Lenny Likovitz was getting ready for his bagpipe lesson when he noticed something unusual.
Oh no, you are not missing bagpipes right now.
Yes I am, why?
Dude, you're opening up to my next story.
Great!
And this is not planned.
No, no.
This is not planned at all.
We never ask each other about our stories ahead.
No, we don't.
His bagpipe case was opened with the bagpipe partially out of the case.
He always, after use, would shine his instrument up and put the pipes in the case next to the cabinet.
Lenny went to pick up his gear when he noticed a tail hanging out of the bagpipe.
The tail belonged to a very small, mini, Capuchin Monkey.
There were only a few hundred in existence.
The monkey was not tame and went on a rampage,
throwing books or anything he could get his hands on.
Animal control in Marchdale, Scotland had to be assisted by a local zoo animal handler,
but eventually got the monkey in a cage and off to New Zealand to be introduced to the other mini monkeys.
His bagpipes are fine, but his apartment was trashed.
He hasn't a clue how the extremely rare monkey got inside his bagpipes.
Wouldn't that fuck you up?
That would. That would.
I mean, how could a monkey get in?
Yeah, and it couldn't be like a joke.
Because someone wouldn't go through all that trouble of grabbing a mini Capuchin Monkey,
which I knew were very rare, and stick it in someone's bagpipes or in his open window or whatever.
That just doesn't make sense.
So, I mean, whatever.
Interesting.
Now for your bagpipes.
Okay, yeah. That's what's crazy.
Because my next story is one of your favorites.
I'm going back to American Songwriter.
Yay!
Four classic rock songs that feature bagpipes.
Okay.
First one.
It's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll by ACDC.
That may be the best song ever to me that is bagpipe friendly.
Released on the famed Australian Rockers 1975 album TNT,
this song features Scottish born singer Bob Scott performing,
does lead vocals, and Bob bagpipe playing.
Yeah, and Brian Johnson does not play bagpipes, so I don't know what they do live.
If they just have pipe it in or if someone comes out there and plays bagpipes.
I'm guessing it was a recording.
Probably, because I saw footage of Bob Scott when he was alive,
and he'd come out there with the bagpipes and play.
I love Bob Scott, so I mean, Brian Johnson's got it.
Oh yeah, awesome.
The music with Bob Scott just had more flair to me, but anyhow.
Okay, next one.
Tomorrow by U2.
Released on the Irish Rock Band's 1981 album, October,
the album opens with pipes, setting the mood for an emotive offering,
reminiscent of fog floating over the countryside.
Okay.
I can't get a handle on what song that is.
Tomorrow, yeah, I really don't.
I don't know if I'm, I'm pretty sure I wrote it.
I probably have too, but U2 has never been my forte.
I've never been that.
I don't know.
I mean, they were okay, but I never really followed them.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm the same way.
Actually, yeah.
To me, they were somewhat overrated to me.
Yeah.
So, anyhow.
But they have a following.
Oh shit.
They have a following.
They are one of the most popular bands in the rock genre.
You can't take it from them.
No, they are, they have been very popular and probably still are.
So.
I'm waiting for them to hit the rock and roll whole thing,
even though they are still alive.
Well, I mean, there's a lot of people still alive that are in it.
Well, yeah, but that would be the type of band that you would think would be.
It should be.
Honestly, if you go by record sales and popularity,
they should be in it, yeah.
And they're definitely rock.
So I don't know what the deal is.
Well, yeah, I do know what the deal is.
In my opinion, they're a bunch of fucking roobs and idiots over there.
So, anyhow.
No, they're too worried about Sade and other groups that weren't really rock.
I heard Sade.
Anyhow.
Yeah, we.
Another discussion, another day.
We covered that last time.
By the way, I got my top underrated bands done.
Are we still doing that or not?
Tomorrow.
Okay.
All right.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Next up.
Mola Kintyre, Paul McCartney Wings.
That was one of his lesser songs, of course.
But I am familiar with it.
This song.
Yeah.
This track is a tribute to the Kintyre Peninsula in the southwest region of Scotland.
Yep.
Where McCartney owns a farm.
Mm hmm.
See, I did not know that.
Okay.
Well, I've always kept track of all the Beatles.
Like I said, my two favorite solo, John Lennon, George Harrison.
But Paul McCartney has a lot of good songs out, especially with the Wings.
Paul McCartney and the Wings did some really, really good music.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
Anyhow.
Okay.
And the final one.
Come Talk to Me by Peter Gabriel.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, Peter Gams.
Released on Peter Gabriel's 1992 album, Us, this song opens with drums and bagpipes that
sing and soar through the proverbial sky.
The track, which features Sinead O'Connor, was written for and dedicated to Gabriel's
then teenage daughter, Melanie.
I had no idea that had Sinead O'Connor on there.
Huh.
Okay.
I did not either.
Wow.
I remember a song.
I just didn't realize it was Sinead O'Connor.
Yeah, boy, she really, really had it tough with that mental illness after, yeah.
Oh, God, yeah.
I really felt for her.
She just was lost.
So, wow.
And actually, now that you mention that.
Okay.
I can see why she's being nominated for the Hall of Fame.
You see, I, okay, if you want to be fair.
I want you to mention that part.
If you want me.
Being a human being, I am the caring person.
I can understand that.
Yeah, but you know what?
Here's the deal to me, Ron.
If you do that, then all the people that died and had problems, you're going to have to
let in.
It cheapens it.
It doesn't mean anything.
You know what I mean?
Like, let's say that, uh, Demarion.
Well, we're not saying that's the reason why she's going.
Okay.
All right.
You know what?
Go ahead.
Is there anyone left on that list that lost count?
No, no.
That was the top four.
Go ahead.
Okay.
I'm not talking about bad, bad pipes.
Let me talk about kilts, Rob.
All right.
A kilt wearing.
A kilt wearing Irish mood tonight.
I guess so.
Uh, um, my, uh, my, uh, studio name is Mark O'Fuckery.
What's your, what's your studio name?
I ain't come up with one yet.
Oh, can I find one for you?
Well, no, I got one.
Oh, okay.
Rob Rad.
Fair enough.
Rob Rad.
All right.
You gave it to me.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, your last name is Radford.
Just, it was simple.
It was like writing was on the wall.
You're Rob Rad.
Is it going to be?
So, Rad Rob.
What's your, go Rob Rad.
We could go Rad Rob if you want me to.
I'll just switch it around.
Yeah, I know.
I like the Rob Rad.
I do too.
I think it has a better sound.
So.
Yeah, I do too.
I killed where a man in Spring, Texas was arrested last week for a crime that can only
be described as asinine.
Taking items for sale at an antique store and placing them in his anus.
Oh, and then he allegedly put detained items back on the shelves, presumably so unsuspecting
shoppers would purchase these asked up items.
Michael Vest was arrested February 15th on charges of criminal mischief stemming from
incidents that occurred on February 10th, where he was observed allegedly placing in
his rectum and then putting them back on the shelves at two antique shops in Spring, Texas.
According to a news release from Harris County Precinct Four Sheriff's Office, some of the
items the 60 year old allegedly contaminated included a makeup brush, an antique bottle
opener and a tobacco tank can, according to the probable cause affidavit.
The total cost of the items.
I'll have a comment when you're ready.
Okay, hang on.
I'm almost done.
The total cost of the items were a little over $200.
The items had to be thrown away because of the fecal contamination, but investigators
were able to connect them to Vest.
He was fined $100 on $100 bond.
Yeah, okay.
$100 bond.
Okay, Michael, comment.
Yeah.
Bravo.
He asked up everything.
Yeah.
I love you dude.
Get over yourself.
Yep.
And I got to mention this.
My friend.
Dude B66 at Yahoo.com.
My friend.
I love his dude.
I want it.
Speaking of asked up stuff, Rob, I got to go into this really quick.
And then I got something I've got to talk about after this next thing.
Orin at work is one of my best friends ever because Orin has agreed to smoke the fake
Cuban asked up cigars with me.
And he knows they're fake Cubans and he knows that they're asked up.
Like I said, I was on a beach at Costa Maya and the guy came by in his knapsack and barefoot.
Hey, amigo.
He's trying to sell me this chief sun burro.
First he wanted $30.
I'm like, nah, get out of here.
Comes back, $20 my friend.
Nah, get out of here.
He comes back, $10.
Okay, 10 bucks.
I gave him 10 bucks.
And then he pulled out this whole thing.
The ditch weed asked up Cubans, non Cubans.
And he goes, how about these?
$40.
Nah, $20.
Nah, 10.
Okay.
I know he asked them up in their ditch weed, but Orin out of respect for me is going to
smoke them with me knowing that they're fake Cubans that have been asked up.
He is a true friend.
He knows this and he's still going to smoke them with me.
You're a true friend.
You spent $10 on it.
I had a couple of pops.
That's all I got to say, man.
Those fucking margaritas.
You were on vacation.
Those margaritas, Rob, if you were there, those margaritas were strong and they do that
for a reason.
That way when my amigo comes by with a knapsack, I buy whatever the hell it is.
So even asked up fake Cubans ditch weed.
So okay.
And this next one that I want to speak about here real quick before we end the podcast
is this.
I've got a guy that keeps regularly emailing me and he claims he's from the Kansas city
area.
Okay.
And anyhow, I'm not going to say-
Have you mentioned him before?
Yes.
Okay.
I'm not going to say who he thinks I am.
No, no.
Okay.
It'd be a great compliment because this guy has been to the peak of radio.
He's a great guy.
He thinks on this certain radio personality that is playing a joke on everybody by doing
this show under another name and acting like I'm this little bitty shoestring show.
And I cannot get across to him because he keeps bringing up points, certain things that
we talk about and stuff.
And like circumstantial dude, I'm not this guy.
And he squares up and down I am.
And he thinks I'm going to use this to launch a big comeback.
When I'm not the guy.
Mark.
Yeah.
Mark.
Yes.
What the fuck are you doing dude?
What do you mean?
The old Mark would have ran with this.
Well, okay.
Use it dude.
Play with it.
You know what?
Play with it.
You're right.
Yeah.
I'm him.
Come on.
You're right.
I'm him.
You caught me.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Yeah.
You got smoky dude, stinky dude fucking with you.
Okay.
You think that this guy knows better and he's just screwing me.
This could be your comeback.
Come on man.
Fuck with him.
Okay.
All right.
Forget everything.
I keep guessing but.
Oh, he's not guessing.
You might be, you know.
He's not guessing.
He's convinced I'm this guy.
So anyhow.
Well, he just listens to me.
He's just a little bit of a
guy, you see.
Rob says I'm that guy.
See.
Rob says you caught us.
Man, I mean the guy's too smart for me, dude.
I don't know what to say.
Geez.
He caught me just like that.
The guy's good.
He's good.
Yeah.
Mark's a big time radio personality.
Yeah.
That's why I'm sitting here wasting my time not making a dime on these things.
Use an audio tonic audacity software and a blue microphone and a gaming computer.
Yes.
That's me.
You caught me.
And I'm sitting down in a camp in Missouri on my cell phone and ear pod.
Yes.
But anyhow, it is a compliment, Rob, because the guy was very good.
Still is.
We went into this podcast two years ago.
Dude, you have that voice.
I know.
You have a radio voice.
I know.
And that's how come I was able to convince the chicks in Lewisburg that I was Rip Blankenship
and Reggie Rash.
Dude, that's a Lewisburg chick.
I used to get that straight.
That's not Reggie, anyway.
I never got any of that from him because-
I grew up in Belmont, I know.
Yeah.
There was that element in Lewisburg, yes, but I got free gas, free sodas, all kinds
of stuff because I was this big swinging D guy from Dallas slash Houston that was coming
to Kansas City on K-Smack or whatever the fuck name.
I made K-Power or something.
K-Smack would be cool.
K-Power, K-Pow, that's right, in your face.
In your face.
Anyhow.
Either way, I'm smacking your ass.
You're K-Powering my ass.
Yeah.
All righty.
I guess we're going to shut this bitch down because we're over an hour and we don't like
to take them over an hour because you generally don't listen after an hour, so it would be
just wasting our time, right?
Yeah, but I think our friends in Des Moines will listen as long as I can.
You know what?
You want to keep this bitch going?
Let's do it.
I don't care.
That's up to you.
I got a story here.
We may have to split tonight and tomorrow night, May 3.
Why not?
Des Moines, we're working for you.
We're working like it.
Des Moines, it's for you.
We're going on.
That's right.
I'm going to come.
I got to look up another story here.
I have something on the rails.
Okay.
I've got one right here.
Dad, how you doing?
A couple weeks ago, Motley Crue bassist, Nicky Six, said Sebastian Bach should not allow
himself to be referred to as former Skid Row singer and suggested that Bach drop the Skid
Row tag and just go by his own name.
Six explained, I mean at this point, dude, you've been out of Skid Row longer than being
in Skid Row.
He said just like, let it go.
VH1 Radio Network Dave Baster caught up with Sebastian who jokily responded to what Nicky
had to say.
I actually just let go of the former Skid Row singer tag this morning.
I dropped it.
Now I feel amazing.
Sebastian said, I just feel myself better as a human because I made the decision after
I read him tell me that I should do that because I was wondering what to do.
And then I read that I was like, oh, now I know.
I can't believe it took me so long.
As soon as I read that interview, I was like, man, what would I do without somebody else
telling me what I should do?
Because I was waiting for somebody to tell me what to do with my life.
And now, oh, thank you.
Thank you.
Now I'm okay.
And now I feel great.
And that is exactly what he said.
So after Bach revealed in a three word tweet to a fan on August 29, 2013, that he was asked
to join Motley Crue more than two decades ago, you see there's more to this backstory,
always.
There's always more to it.
Six quickly retorted that Bach's version of events never happened.
Sebastian then took to his Facebook page to describe in some detail the circumstances
behind his being asked to join the crew, which included taking part in a full day's rehearsal
with a band and a slew of phone calls between various managers, agents and label executives.
I was driven to rehearsal by Tommy Lee and I spent a full day singing the Motley Crue
set with the band Motley Crue.
Bach wrote, I remember the songs that Nicky asked me to sing that day.
I remember the whole road crews, the static reaction to us jamming together all day.
And I remember Nicky's very generous kind offer at the end of our rehearsal to join
for me to join the band Motley Crue.
I remember his exact words that he would be in front of his whole road crew, Tommy and
Nick Mars as well.
Not every day your hero is asked to join his band.
Bach didn't reveal the full details of what went down that day.
Promising his Facebook followers will tell the complete story of Nicky offered me to
join Motley Crue in my upcoming book, which will be arriving on bookshelves soon.
So let's see what else is on here.
I'm not simply making this up.
I'm not a liar.
Hey, six point on music.
I got one.
Okay.
This time I mentioned to you, but I ran across an individual story with everybody that listened
last year knows that I come up with local amphitheater.
Oh yeah.
Stuff.
You know, people are going to be tonight.
I am right here.
The lead singer of Led Zeppelin will be gracing the Ozarks stage this summer.
Robert Plant known as a lead singer and lyricist of Led Zeppelin is performing alongside bluegrass
country musician Alison Krauss.
Have you heard them two together, Robert?
I have.
I love it.
The Ozarks amphitheater in Campton on Tuesday, June 4th.
Here in my hometown.
They're going to be my amphitheater.
Like I said, I got to get you, I got to get you that equipment anyhow.
It might be right around that time.
It might be planned.
The performance is part of the duo's 2024 Can't Let Go Tour.
So this is going to be more than just here.
They're touring together.
The tickets for the Can't Let Go Tour are going to sale at 10am Friday, February 16th,
which today is the 24th.
Yeah.
I'm telling you, wait till I bring that segment.
There's a lot of big names coming to the Ozarks this year.
That's cool.
I mean, like I said, man, I'm...
And actually, I think this year, there's another venue or two I may add in.
That'd be cool.
I'm also going to look up this right here.
There is the Black Oak Amphitheater open back up in Lampe, Missouri.
No, no.
That's going to be one of the amphitheaters.
I'm going to stop you.
Oh, you are?
Okay.
Yeah, no.
I'm the amphitheater dude.
I think they're going to have some big jam fest if what I read is correct.
There's going to be something to likings of Ted Nugent.
What was some of the other names I heard?
Ted Nugent.
April Wine was one of them.
Oh.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Dude, dude, dude.
Okay.
Yeah.
There was some interesting bands on there that I didn't even know were still together
if I read was correct.
How am I going to say what's in mine?
I think Jay Giles band.
I got to go see April Wine.
I think actually it's going to be led off by Sebastian Bach, which I love.
I love his solo stuff.
He sings a lot of skid row stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's good.
I saw him up in Omaha and he was great.
I mean, very energetic.
Sounded great.
Wow.
That means they ought to start saving up money, dude.
Yeah, because I think Ozark, or not Ozark, Black Oak Amphitheater is trying to rebuild
its reputation because it had many years of being dormant.
Yeah, and they're like two and a half hours.
I'm as far away from Black Oak Amphitheater as I am from you.
You see, here's what I would do is I would go to Black Oak Amphitheater and then go straight
to Eureka Springs, which is about 45 minutes away from there.
I'd spend a couple days there and then come back.
That sounds good.
I don't have the money or the time.
We'll figure it out.
Just saying.
We'll figure it out.
Just being honest.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I've got to... We'll look at the lineup and we'll see what we can do.
We'll see if what I read was true because we all know that everything you read online
is true.
Just seeing.
Oh, everything.
Yeah, yeah, of course.
I think that that would be a great lineup if that does come to fruition.
I didn't know April 1 was even still together.
I'm hoping this was true.
Okay.
They're one of my top groups.
I'm just saying.
I love them.
I'm going to leave it right there.
They've been always such an underrated.
I love April 1.
I don't do that.
I'm leaving it right there.
Okay.
It's left right there.
Very cool.
Well, let's hope all of this works out because those would be some amazing concerts to go
see.
Oh, yeah.
Now, I've never seen.
I've seen Robert Plant solo several times.
I have never seen Robert Plant.
Okay.
Now, I did go.
I'm going to throw this out here.
Okay.
There is a Led Zeppelin tribute group called Get the Leg Out.
Yes.
Yeah.
I've seen them online.
They look good, too.
Dude, it's a totally different experience in person.
Yeah.
I took my daughter to see Get the Leg Out.
Here, Ozark amphitheater up street, same amphitheater I've been talking about.
The lead singer looks like.
Robert Plant?
No.
Howard Stern.
Okay.
Seriously, the band even made jokes on stage about it.
The lead singer looks like Howard Stern.
Oh, man.
Big Bird.
He looks like Big Bird.
The lead guitarist looks like Robert Plant.
But I'll tell you what.
That night, and there's no bullshit people.
That night when I was at that concert, I closed my eyes as I was singing to them.
I marked off singing Led Zeppelin live off my bucket list.
Wow.
Well, I mean.
Because Get the Leg Out, you listen to them.
I'm telling you, close your eyes.
You listen to the actual Led Zeppelin.
It sounded like them.
Well, okay.
It sounded like the old records.
Uh-huh.
And they were blind, man.
I'm like, but didn't open my eyes.
I'm looking at fucking Howard Stern.
I'm like, what the fuck, dude?
Well, you know what?
But at the same time, they made fun of that on stage, too.
Yeah, you know what?
That's cool that they can make fun of it.
Here's what I found out.
But they are awesome.
Anybody, and actually, I did read a report.
They are coming to Jefferson City, Missouri, at Cavalry Go Amphitheater.
Yeah.
I don't have it in front of me, but I'm just going to put it on my memory.
But they are coming.
I will get back to you on that date.
Okay.
Anybody that wants to catch them.
They are a great band.
You can follow them on Facebook.
You want to check them out.
All right.
I'm sure they got YouTube.
They got.
Yeah.
They are on YouTube.
They are a travel.
Okay.
And they are an awesome Zeppelin Tribute Band.
If you love Zeppelin, listen to them.
I can tell you this.
The best Kiss Tribute Band I've ever heard.
I forgot their name.
Kiss Tribute Band.
Okay.
Yeah.
They were the kind that you close your eyes and you think it's them, like you were saying.
Gene Simmons, the guy that played Gene Simmons was 5'6", about 300 pounds.
Paul Stanley had this spiky blonde hair.
5'2", 180 pounds.
Anyhow.
But the thing was is.
I'm guessing.
I'm guessing laughingly.
He sounded, he sung like Gene Simmons.
He played the bass like Gene Simmons.
And Paul Stanley looked weird but he sounded just like Paul Stanley.
He played like Paul Stanley.
Really?
Now Ace looked like Ace.
That was a pretty good comparison.
And Peter Chris looked like Peter Chris.
Is a pretty good comparison.
But I could not.
I had to not watch the band.
I know what you're saying.
And that same makeup.
About closing your eyes.
Yeah.
I had to not watch the band because every time I saw this 5'6", 300 pound Gene Simmons
with a wig on.
His wig actually fell off during the performance.
A couple of times.
And it was just like.
It's like man this music is great but I cannot look at that guy anymore.
That's what I'm saying dude.
When I was at that Get the Let Out concert.
I love them.
They're amazing.
But imagine opening your eyes and seeing Howard Stern singing Stairway Dead.
Oh my god.
It would be like seeing Big Bird.
That would ruin the whole concert.
I kept my eyes closed.
That's funnier than hell.
It really really is.
I did go to the meet and greet afterwards.
Oh really?
Were they cool?
They're great guys.
That's cool.
I actually still follow them on Facebook.
Awesome.
It was funny.
I mean it was funny that they even made fun of it.
That he looked like Howard Stern.
And that was out of his own mouth.
Here's a story that I wanted to get to but I never did download the story.
I love to.
I got a lot of them.
When we were talking about music I'll go ahead and get into it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Michael Schenkner is a really good guitarist from UFO and then on his own.
I guess he was Randy Rhoades, the late great Randy Rhoades favorite guitar player.
And he told Ozzy this and he told the whole Blizzard Rozz band he loved Michael Schenkner.
He loved his playing and all that stuff.
So when Randy tragically died Ozzy got a hold of Michael Schenkner and they couldn't come
to an agreement.
Michael Schenkner didn't want to play for Ozzy but didn't want to tell him because he heard
how crazy Ozzy was.
He's like man he goes I want to be a part of that.
Guy not showing up.
This and that and the other and everything.
Right?
So I can understand that.
He had a very bad reputation for not showing up, being drunk, horrible performances.
So when Ozzy called him and Sharon I guess was on the line too.
He came up with all these demands.
He said he wanted his own jet and all this stuff.
And I guess he got asked about it not too long ago.
He said yeah you know there's all these rumors about you joining the Blizzard of Oz and Ozzy
after Randy's death because he loved you.
You know Randy loved you.
And he said yeah.
He goes here's what that was and he finally explained it.
He said look I wasn't trying to be a dick trying to get all these favors for playing
guitar for him.
He said I simply wanted him to tell me no because I didn't have enough guts to say dude
you're always fucked up and I don't trust you.
Interesting right?
Right.
Yeah I thought that was a great story.
I'm like wow.
So because I'd heard that a long time and Michael Shankner I guess a lot of people think
he's kind of hard to deal with.
I don't know you know of course there's no way I could know but I've read that before.
But it was interesting that on that story he was actually kind of being considerate
and not trying to piss Ozzy off.
Right I understand that.
Yeah well anyhow did you have a story you said something about?
Yeah well I was going to add a little bit since you were talking about Ozzy.
Oh okay.
I read a story a while ago that I did not save.
It was about Jakey Lee.
Which I almost wanted to save but I figured we had so much other crap to go into tonight.
Well not now.
Now we're fucking free bowling it and I love this.
Oh yeah it was like I said I actually deleted the story so but it was about Jakey Lee after
Andy and it was actually a good story and it went into what he's doing now.
What is he doing now?
And like I said I deleted the story so.
Hang on.
He has a new band now.
It was Red Dragon Cartel.
That's it.
Red Dragon Cartel.
That's it.
That's the story I went into that I read into.
Okay let's see what's going on now.
I just read into it this morning and I've had a very very very busy day.
Okay they okay it seems like they still have the same.
I'm trying to keep my phone up and going so we can keep doing this podcast.
But I'm going to look into them.
I'm really interested.
Yeah Red Dirt.
I'm writing that down right now.
Red Dragon Cartel.
Okay.
Like I said I just ran into that story this morning and it was funny you happened to mention.
Looks like they're playing overseas currently.
Let's see.
Okay cool yeah it looks like they're playing in Europe currently.
So that's good you know that's good that they have an audience over in Europe because they're
not doing so well here I know that.
You know they had a couple of albums out and he's been on Eddie Trunk and I mean it's not
bad music it's just not real memorable music.
He's got a really good bassist and singer and drummer.
Let's see.
I still want to check them out.
Yeah you should.
You should.
You can get all their music you can find it online easily.
So even if you look up Red Dragon Cartel and Google it it goes to where you can get them
on YouTube, Spotify, YouTube Music, Apple Music and all those big ones.
So okay.
Yeah like I said I did I had not heard of that band until today.
Okay.
So I didn't know what he was doing.
Okay.
I'm gonna check it out tomorrow.
Very cool yeah I mean it's good the guitar on it's good as you can imagine and you know
I've always liked Jakey Lee's guitar and it was completely different than Randy you know
but it was good you know it fit in with all the Aussies music very well with the Bark
and the Moon and Ultimate Sin Errors.
Okay here's where I'm at with that and I think most of the public will agree.
Okay.
Jakey Lee took over for Randy.
He had big shoes to fill.
Yes.
This is an ongoing story to read many stories about it.
Jakey just kind of fell off after that.
Well he joined Badlands him and Ray Gillan who passed away.
Okay well he yeah he did Badlands.
But after Ozzy he kind of fell away he took some time off man.
He had a big shoe to fill.
He had a lot of problems.
That would be a lot of mental.
Because people loved Randy they blamed him for being there instead of Randy they'd flip
him off they'd yell at him they'd spit at him and stuff.
I found that really interesting why they couldn't help it.
Randy died couldn't play anymore.
Yeah.
They had to have a guitarist.
And Jakey just took up for him.
Why he was asked to do you know.
You see and at the time George Lynch was one of the finalists.
He did great at the time.
George Lynch was one of the finalists I forgot Brad Gillis.
They wanted Brad Gillis to play.
There was all these other really good guitarists that were finalists.
They decided on Jakey Lee because it was also his look too.
They wanted to look they wanted him to look completely different than Randy Rhodes.
So people would maybe forget or not forget but not be so hung up on looking like Randy
Rhodes.
And you know they wanted Ozzy go there and pick the guy up and all that stuff and everything.
And they wanted it to be like the same thing where Ozzy and Sharon were like well it can't
be the same thing because it's not.
But Jake did what he needed to do.
Yeah.
And Ozzy moved on.
Well Jakey Lee I think.
Let me look I can't remember.
I think Jakey Lee may have stepped down.
He did.
I that was one of my reports Jakey Lee just backed out.
He took some time off and that's why he's come up with this new album.
Well they did have a couple of.
Come on.
He got.
Okay.
Come on.
Think about it Mark.
I got it right here.
If you were in Jakey Lee's shoes.
Uh huh.
And you found out Randy Rhodes died and you got asked to take his place with Ozzy Osbourne.
Well of course.
Back in the day that would be a lot of pressure.
Well afterwards Jake kind of gave up and he took some time off.
I read the article.
Okay.
Here's what it says.
Then he started coming back.
Here's what it says here Rob.
Okay this is Wikipedia.
After being fired from Ozzy's band Lee formed the blues based hard rock band Badlands with
vocalist Ray Gillen in 1988.
Badlands consisted of Lee Gillen drummer Eric Singer and bassist Eric Singer of course you
know from Kiss.
Went to Kiss.
Yeah and bassist Greg Chesson.
The band released their self titled debut album in 1989 and it actually did fairly well.
They even toured but what happened is Ray Gillen said he contacted AIDS and he passed
away from complications to AIDS.
He said he got it from a groupie and that's kind of what happened to that band is they
were actually doing pretty good and then Ray Gillen got AIDS and then subsequently
died as a byproduct of AIDS.
And then after that Jakey Lee was nowhere to be found for years and years and then there's
all these rumors people saying that they seen him smoking crack in Vegas and you know he's
fucking homeless and all this stuff.
But it doesn't sound like any of that was true.
I heard him do an interview with Eddie Trunk.
He sounded good.
He sounded fine.
Yeah.
No the whole thing is I remember some of it here and it's on here that Jakey Lee Ozzy
felt that Jakey Lee and Sharon felt that he was always being combative and he really didn't
like that role and he was difficult to work with and that is why.
Jake at that point was being, he had a lot of pressure on him at that point man.
Well yeah.
Okay here's the official story Rob.
According to Jake he was abruptly fired by phone soon after the Ultimate Sin Tour had
ended.
Jake claimed in a 1990 MTV interview as a member of Badlands that he was washing his
classic cars when the call came from an unnamed caller that he had been fired from Ozzy Osbourne
band.
At the time he blamed Sharon Arden Osbourne, likely the caller, with whom he implied he
had never gotten along with.
In 2020 Jake claimed that Sharon had scammed him out of royalties and songwriting credits
and that she, Sharon, could be self-indictive.
However, this version of evidence is contradicting somewhat by 2018 interview with Jake which
was published by blabbermouth.net.
Sharon called me and said she wanted me to have dinner with me, she wanted to have dinner
with me, I recall.
I suppose there was clues in there because she was talking about how someday Jake when
you have your own band I will think her major piece of advice would be on time.
When you're a leader of a band you kind of need to set an example and you need to be
on time and that was the only clue I really had.
Continuing Jake said that although there were clues Osbourne didn't actually tell him he
was out of the band.
My roommate at the time was also my guitar tech and he came back from the rainbow and
he'd seen Ozzy's bandmates Phil Ozzy and Randy Castile on drums said he came up to
him and said so what are you going to do now that Jake's out of the band.
So he said that that's how he found out about it first and then he came back and said he
was abruptly fired over the phone by Sharon.
So it sounds to me like those two interviews he did about his firing contradict each other.
Well it kind of sounds like he should not have answered that or asked that question.
Yes he should have just said you know what I already said everything I'm going to say.
He just said I'm going to take the high road.
So who are you going to bring in to replace me?
Well they did very well.
Welcome Mr. Zach Wild.
Yep Zach Wild had actually been really popular on these calls to Zach Adams.
Yeah you know and anyhow they changed his name to Wild.
I mean I do not take anything from Jake Ely.
I don't.
He's a great guitarist.
He's fantastic.
It's just that for Ozzy I mean yeah he did great for replacement.
And I'm going to actually be so horrendous in the solo stuff which I have not done which
I should have done.
Ok first off Badlands when you listen to Badlands don't expect to hear all this guitar craziness.
No it is blues rock.
It's blues rock.
And then Red Dragon Cartel there's some flashingness.
I can understand that.
Actually I think I have heard some Badlands.
Oh I'm sure you have.
They've had a couple of decent hits.
So anyhow alrighty let's go ahead and conclude this podcast Rob you want to?
That's up to you.
Yeah let's go ahead and call it an evening because I got some stuff I got to get to.
Yeah I got you.
I got you.
I'm with you in time.
I got you.
Yep anyhow alright thank you all for listening and this will be probably two podcasts because
I'll throw the best stuff some shit after.
Right right right yeah.
Loosen splicing and dicing.
I'm looking at time we're well over we're like one and a half right now.
Yeah yep alrighty everybody have a good night thanks for listening.
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The Bull Weevil Clap.
Read up on that sometime.
The Bull Weevil Clap and this old guy that I knew that was in Vietnam.
I probably should, well you know what you can take this part out of here.
If you like it.
And we can put it somewhere.
But this old guy that I knew down the road from me.
There was a Vietnam.
He told me that one day you know him and a couple of guys got a day off from the war.
So they went into the nearest town to go look for some hookers.
You know they're like you know if we're going to die we're going to get laid.
So okay all right.
So they go in there and I guess the Viet Cong loaded the prostitutes full of stuff called the Bull Weevil Clap.
Yeah.
Oh it is.
So anyhow he said you know they all went and you know did what they needed to do.
You know they thought they were all going to die.
So they went and they got laid.
And the next day when a guy comes in he goes oh my god.
He goes I hurt so bad.
You know my fucking dick hurts like hell.
My stomach hurts.
I think I'm going to die.
What did they do with those damn hookers?
So anyhow and he started hurting really bad.
He said it hurt so bad you could hardly breathe.
You could feel it in your dick shaft.
It hurt so bad.
So they all go in and I guess it's like a horrible infection.
And if you don't get it treated it will kill you.
Like you know go up your scrotum and into your testicles.
And anyhow the only cure back then was is they had to take this glass rod.
Shove it in the end of your penis.
And mash it with a rubber mallet.
And then they have to physically squeeze all the infection out of your penis.
I've heard of this.
Yes.
And this took like four hours of mashing this rod.
And then squeezing all the infection out.
Because if they don't get all the infection out right then.
It flares right back up.
Yes.
Seals your pee pee shut.
Yes.
Yeah that was the old joke of you know oh there's you know if you catch VD your dick's going to turn black and fall off.
There are actually STDs.
That was worst case scenario.
It actually will turn black and fall off because the tissue will die.
Yeah it's kind of like a grand again green type of deal you know or something like that.
So anyhow yeah he said after that he said no more hookers.