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Hello everybody, this is Two Boosh Bags and Microphone, I'm Mark.
And I'm Rob.
Alright, well as we spoke of probably last podcast, but if not then just a minute ago,
and then you probably heard a bunch of stuff like Satan telling you you burned souls to this show or something,
or whatever, or some alien telling you a stupid joke.
Here we go.
There was online, there was a Generation Z, the Zoom generation, would you rathers?
Not only are the questions very interesting and Gen Z-like, but the answers are very interesting and Gen Z-like.
So, on this you get what you get to see exactly, they answered everything exactly like I thought they would.
Exactly like I thought they were going to, unfortunately, but they did.
So, are you going to ask my opinion on this?
Yes, absolutely.
Alright.
Yeah, yep.
Okay, the number one question that they asked them was, pick one thing to erase from existence.
Fortnite or Facebook?
75% of 108,000 votes, 75% picked Fortnite.
And that's exactly who I thought they would pick because they rely on Facebook.
Hey, look at me now, hey look at me, hey look at me, hey look, oh look I got a new pair of shoes,
hey look at me I'm dancing with like rabbit ears on me, hey look, you know.
So, that doesn't surprise me, if Fortnite is considered a millennial thing and they hate millennials.
Once they reach a certain age, they start giving up the video games a little more.
I'm finding out first hand.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, yep.
So, yeah, so there you go.
And I would, you know, and actually if they asked me I'd be the same way, fuck Fortnite.
And I mean, like I said, Facebook doesn't really do that much for me anymore except keeping in touch with family and friends afar
and also promoting this podcast. Other than that, I could do without it, honestly.
So, the next Generation Zoom would you rather question is, I understand this only because there are certain platforms that I have to go to,
to listen to some shows and to see some stuff, but anyhow, post-Dark Humor on 2014 era Tumblr,
2014 era Tumblr was completely different than the Tumblr that's out today. It's considered ancient and old and just, you know, not cool, I guess.
And then, or get into a fight with Stan Twitter. Stan Twitter is anybody on Twitter. That's what they call them. I looked it up.
Stan Twitter is like guy down the road screwing with you about something. So, yeah.
So, getting into a fight with someone you don't know of on Twitter or post-Dark Humor on 2014 era Tumblr, 74% said that they would rather not be associated.
So, 95, 96,000 votes. 74% said no. No post-Dark Humor on 2014 era Tumblr.
They would rather, 26% of them would rather get into a fight with Stan Twitter. And me too, because if you have the chance to piss one of these idiots off, it's pretty fun.
Yeah. Yeah. I don't have enough time for it anymore, but if I did, I'd get on Twitter and just bash the fuck out of people to piss them off.
Or rival football teams, you know, make fun of them.
I'm to that point in my life, and like I said, I'm making changes to my life. And I'm good to be more outspoken.
You know what? This will be the only chance you got to speak about whatever, you know what I mean? You have a chance every day to...
Oh, that's a lot of shit.
Yeah, we spoke about some of that before the podcast. Yes, I know this. But I really do mean that idea that I want to come up with maybe, okay? We'll talk about that later.
So...
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You were taking... No, I was taking everything.
Oh, oh, oh, I know. Okay. We're talking about two different things. Forget it. I know... Okay. All right.
Next one. Would you rather have Netflix or Disney Plus?
Now, I don't agree with this one at all, but I knew that this was going to go this way.
I bet I could guess what they'd pick.
Go ahead.
I bet they'd pick Disney Plus.
Actually, you know what? They did not.
They did.
No, I wrote it down wrong. Good thing I went to the website. Netflix by 64 percent, Disney by 36 percent. I would go with Netflix any day over Disney.
83,000 votes to 46,000 votes.
I was getting their age.
Oh, that's right.
I was getting their age. That's where I was being my guess.
Okay. Nope. Netflix won, and that is exactly what I would... that's who I would have went for too.
I don't know why in the hell I wrote it down wrong.
Disney Plus would have more of their shows.
I probably had to take a dump really bad, so I wrote it down wrong. I'm like, oh man, I gotta go take a dump. Shit. You know?
You never know. You never know.
That's kind of like me, and I'm sending you two different lists.
I know, that was funny.
I wrote clear back. I don't know why I wrote clear back in the back of my notebook.
That's alright. It was funny. I was just like, oh.
We'll get it together. We'll get it together.
We were driving to the taco place today to meet Val's sister and her guy for Taco Tuesday.
And anyhow, so I do it over the Jeep, you know, voice, what your text said.
And Val's like, what the hell? What are all these names? What are you guys doing?
And I told her to ask her. The asshole there, Lembix, was like, oh.
It was really funny. Because here's all these names.
Yeah, it was just funny. It was classic.
So let's shut down that conversation real quick.
Alright, well, you guys have fun with your asshole here.
We will. We will.
Yeah, good luck to you guys. Keep them going.
Anyhow, wee-wee.
Okay, next one. Would you rather keep a pet...
What? Hold on.
Okay, would you rather keep as a pet IRL? Which would you rather...
You know what? I'm just going to go this list online.
Because I think I was falling asleep when I wrote it because I wrote it just in complete...
Okay, okay. I'm just... Hang on a second. Bear with me here.
Let me go online and read this.
I know exactly what you're talking about. You'll see my notes.
I don't know what the hell I was thinking.
Okay, which would you rather keep as a pet IRL?
Baby Yoda or Minecraft sheep?
I'd rather have Baby Yoda.
Baby Yoda. I would pick that one too.
Who cares about Minecraft and their fucking sheep?
Baby Yoda's cooler.
I'm going to go with video games again.
Yep. 99.5 thousand votes. So almost 100 thousand votes.
To 21 percent, which is 25 thousand votes.
So Baby Yoda won 79 percent to 21 percent.
And that is a landslide.
So good. Everybody loves Baby Yoda though. Who doesn't love Baby Yoda, right?
Hell yeah.
Baby Yoda's cool.
Minecraft sheep?
I'm in a Baby Yoda Facebook group.
Oh, cool.
Alright. Okay.
It's just different memes.
Oh, it is? It's just got a bunch of memes?
Yeah, it's just different memes with Baby Yoda in it.
Send me a couple of memes, will you?
Of Baby Yoda memes.
Let me find a couple.
But I don't want to be in the group. I'm in enough groups.
If you can just like toss a couple to me, that would be cool.
Yeah, yeah, I will. I will.
Okay, thanks.
Alright. Pick a family member to argue with over the holidays.
Your Karen in parentheses aunt, so your aunt that's a Karen, or your close-minded uncle.
Do what?
Pick a family member to argue with over the holidays.
Your Karen in parentheses aunt, so your aunt that's a Karen, or your close-minded uncle.
I voted my close-minded uncle.
Me too, but they voted your Karen aunt is who you would rather get into an argument with.
66%?
Well, that shows they don't have no respect.
No, I know. Well, your close-minded uncle, or your Karen aunt.
You're afraid of him.
That's right. You're right. That's it. They're afraid of him.
I would rather take on the old man than beat up on some old woman.
It would be like fucking with Archie Bunker. It would be fun.
So anyhow, the Karen aunt by 66%, as opposed to the close-minded uncle, 34%.
80,000 votes to 40,000 votes.
Interesting there.
I would think that they would have rather went for the uncle.
I don't know why, but that's just what I thought they would have done.
The next one. Which millennial food trend would you rather eat?
Rainbow everything, or charcoal everything?
Both of these are trends that went on.
They had rainbow everything. I think it was for like Gay Pride or something.
And then they had charcoal everything. I'm not sure what that was for.
And it's like ice cream that looked like charcoal, or donuts that are like all different rainbow colors.
And this is exactly what I thought that they were going to go for too.
The margin was pretty wide, but not as wide as I thought it was going to be.
What do you think?
I'm guessing they went rainbow.
They did. 68% to 32%.
I personally would go charcoal.
I would too, because I think it's cool just eating stuff like that.
I like to get it on the grill, you know.
Yeah, me too. And also I think it would draw more interest.
Rainbow colored stuff would be like, oh that looks delicious.
Charcoal would be like, what the hell is that guy eating?
Looks like a piece of burnt wood. What the hell?
People would come over and look, what the hell is he doing?
That sounds more appealing to me than rainbow whatever.
Then you don't have as many people asking you for a piece.
Oh that's true. I ain't eating that burnt shit.
That's right you're not. It's mine.
So the next one.
Would you rather get mistaken for the broken lazy generation or the fortnight generation?
So I'm wondering if the broken lazy generation is X and the fortnight generation is the millennials.
I don't know, it doesn't clarify. That would be my guess too.
This surprised me. I thought it was going to go the other way.
Who do you think?
Do you want my honest opinion? Yes.
Me either.
I think they're going to go the fortnight generation.
They want the broken lazy generation.
66% or 76,000 votes.
The 34% which is 40,000 votes.
No 39,000 votes not 40.
So that surprised me a little.
I don't think if they wanted anything to do with Xers and they would rather be with millennials.
I think they hate millennials worse than us. I really do.
I think it's because they're so close in age.
Yes I think so. It's like they're big brothers that they don't like or something.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Next one. Which would you rather give up?
Computers and laptops or phones?
That one is exactly what I thought they were going to pick.
And I would pick it too to be honest.
You got a guess?
I want to say they're going to give up computers and laptops.
By 77%.
And like I said I think that's a pretty easy one.
77% said that they would rather give up their computers and laptops and keep their phones.
23% said phones.
And I think that's pretty explanatory isn't it?
You can go anywhere and be on your phone and stay informed.
You know you don't always have Wi-Fi. You don't always have the space available for a laptop or a computer.
So that's exactly the way I thought it would go.
I'm surprised that 23% picked the phone actually.
I thought it might be like 1 or 2%.
Because when I first got these it didn't have the answer. You had to push on it for the answer.
And I got to pick these things organically without knowing anything about it.
This comes from a Gen Xer.
Same here. Gen Xer.
Who is part of a podcast.
Yes.
I'm on my phone right now man.
No, no man. That's how I get all my stuff too.
I listen to all different types of stuff. Like I said I listen to Bubba on my phone.
I listen to Man Cow does a weekly podcast deal from his home or something.
I listen to that. I listen to...
I tried to listen to Bob and Tom the other morning because of Donnie Baker or Ron Sexton that passed away.
I didn't get a chance to. So I'm going to try to find it.
Yeah I missed it too.
Yeah I'm going to try to find it.
I'll even listen to local stuff like Johnny Dare on my phone too.
Because it's always there. Unless I'm in the car then I'll just turn it on the rock.
Because that station has a booming signal.
But you know if not I'll listen to it on my phone too along with some other shows that interest me.
So, okay. Finally the final one.
Would you rather watch old Disney shows or old Nickelodeon shows?
And this is the opposite of what I would pick.
Rob you got an idea?
Oh man. Well see I'm thinking back to my kids here.
I'm thinking back to my kids here.
Honestly I kind of like the Nickelodeon shows better.
Me too. That's exactly what I would have picked too.
But they picked opposite. They picked old Disney shows by 71,000 votes, 64%.
As opposed to old Nickelodeon shows 36%, 40,000 votes.
So...
I keep trying to see that.
Yeah.
Because I think they're a little separated.
We're talking about a generation a hell of a lot younger than what we give them credit for.
So they probably would like Disney. Yeah they probably would.
So, yeah. Anyhow.
We'll be right back right after this.
Two Shirley temples and a bottle of scotch will be right back.
As pleasant as 50 grit sandpaper to your inner thighs.
Oh shit. What's that over there?
Oh no. It's the island of horrible jokes.
I can't take my dog to the lake. The ducks keep attacking me.
That's where I get from the purebred dog.
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All right, Rob, you got anything you want to throw in right now or do you want to go into a couple of silly stories?
No, I got a story.
Go ahead.
Something I ran across.
The floor is yours, my friend.
The Internal Revenue Service announced Monday it is ending the decades-long practice of unannounced revenue officer visits to taxpayers.
Good!
It looks to decrease taxpayer confusion and enhance safety measures.
People are probably shooting them.
What?
People are probably shooting them. Enhance safety measures.
Let me read this and I'm going to go into that.
Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
According to the IRS, revenue officers typically visit households and businesses to assist taxpayers in resolving their account balances and collect unpaid taxes, with the exception of a few unique circumstances.
The IRS said these unannounced visits will end effective immediately and taxpayers will instead receive a mail letter to schedule appointments.
That's the way it should have been all along.
Okay, okay. It keeps going, but I'm going to stop right there.
Okay.
Okay, now, correct me if I'm wrong.
Okay, go ahead.
Was this just recently big in the news to where IRS officers were giving the right Victoria Firehouse for their safety?
Yes. Yes, yes, you're right. I forgot about that.
Okay, let's go ahead and put two and two together, right?
Yeah, that's why I came up with this story, because I said, wait a second, this here won't act.
And everybody was freaking out like, why can the IRS just carry a gun?
But now, they're announcing.
They know their home, their rich.
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Yeah, I can see where it's at.
Well, state of Missouri has decided they're going to back or write to have a gun.
You know, so if they come after our guns, our state is going to back us off.
Okay. Okay, well, I think we pretty much hit the nail on the head, didn't we?
Yeah.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Well, I could have told them that. We already knew the government was stupid, right?
Yeah, we already knew. I just thought it was weird.
Everybody was scratching, why were they allowed to carry guns?
Yeah, you're going to show up at somebody's house and go, hey, by the way, you owe us all this money,
and we want it immediately, and we want all these fines.
And you're supposed to go, oh, okay. Yeah, no problem. Yeah, sure.
Hey, you want some tea? No, you're going to go fuck you.
Get the fuck out of here. Get off my land, son of a bitch. You fucking weasel. You worm.
Yeah, we're somebody that's not actually government agency.
Yeah. Yep.
Let's save that for a different show.
Well, I know where you're going there, but I think there's things that...
Save that for a different show.
Okay. Okay, that's cool.
Yeah. Yeah.
We'll talk about that off there, because I have a couple ideas on that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyhow, let's see.
Do you have another story that you want to go into?
Yeah, if you got something to shoot, I got something else.
All right. Well, a Brazilian woman brought new meaning to crime of passion
after revealing that she fell in love with a mugger who robbed her,
and now the two have become inseparable.
The duo detailed their alleged romantic saga on a Twitter video
with over 232,000 views online.
She said, I was walking down the street where he lives, and unfortunately,
I was mugged. The woman identified as Emanuela told reporters
while recounting her first date, in parentheses, at a media event in Brazil,
Jam Press reported. She recalled how the thief took her phone,
but when he saw Emanuela's number in there, he said he had been the one
who had robbed her, so I guess he called her.
Local media reported it. Well, that's one way to get someone's phone number,
is steal their phone and get their number.
Meanwhile, the unidentified phonejacker claimed that he had a sudden change
of heart amid robbery. I was going through a difficult situation
because I didn't have a woman, you know, the robber said.
Recalling the unlikely how we first met story, when I saw her photo on the phone,
I said to myself, what a beautiful brunette. You don't see a brunette like that
every day, and I regretted stealing it. So I called her up and offered her
her phone back. So I guess she had another phone, or got another phone,
and had her number transferred, and he called her on that phone.
It doesn't explain this in this article. And then she was dumb enough to go,
oh, thanks a lot, violent criminal. Yeah, I thought you were cute too, or whatever.
So then the reporter joked, so you stole her phone and then her heart.
She said, yes.
Hear that, Cromwell? Yeah. Yeah.
Anyhow, did you hear about Cigna Healthcare getting sued?
This is a little bit more serious. Yeah.
Cigna is a huge healthcare conglomerate, and it was sued.
It's being sued by the state of California.
The state of California is starting to do some interesting lawsuits.
Some of them make sense, but I mean, that's what happens when you're like
grasping for money too, isn't it? So, yeah, this one I like.
Cigna, the healthcare and insurance giant, was hit with a lawsuit on Monday
that alleges the company systematically rejects claims in a matter of seconds
thanks to an algorithm system put in place to help automate the process,
further raising questions about how technology could harm patients
as more healthcare organizations look to embrace AI and other new tools.
The suit which was filed in California as seeking class action status
was brought forth by a pair of plaintiffs who were denied coverage by Cigna.
Okay, okay, I stand corrected. Someone came to probably an attorney general
in California with a specific complaint, and then they looked into it
and started this lawsuit which is looking to become class action now.
One plaintiff, Suzanne Chrysling-Lewan, was referred to an ultrasound
because of a suspected risk of ovarian cancer.
Another, Ashila Smiley, had been tested for a vitamin D deficiency at the order of her doctor.
Wealth Insurer's digital claims system, called BXDX, is an improper scheme designed
to systematically wrongfully and automatically deny its insured medical payments
owed to them under Cigna's insurance policies, the complaint alleges.
After the lawsuit was filed Monday, and this is from Forbes Magazine, Forbes Online, by the way,
after the lawsuit was filed Monday, Cigna defended the software system,
and they said PXDX is a simple tool to accelerate physician payments
that has been grossly mischaracterized in the press, spokesperson Justin Sessions said in a statement.
The facts speak for themselves, and we will continue to set the record straight.
So, the suit follows and is going through the court system right now.
It looks to become class action, but right now it is in the state of California,
and it says for over two months last year, the company denied more than 300,000 claims,
spending an average of 1.2 seconds on each claim.
That's all, Rob, 1.2 seconds, and they deny them.
Wow.
Do you believe that they had any factual information in that time, except for maybe keywords,
like maybe high blood pressure or heart or cancer or something like that?
You see, yeah, I think to me, it looks to me like California might be exactly right on this.
So, while medical doctors signed off on the denials,
the systems didn't require them to open patient portal medical records for the review.
So, the doctor didn't even look at the reviews of them.
Just on this suggestion from the software, the doctor denied these people.
Isn't that fucked?
The complaint says this violates the California competition law for unfair and fraudulent business acts.
The suit also alleges the system violates the state's insurance code
for failing to adopt a reasonable standard for processing claims, which I agree with.
So, the complaint comes as a boom in artificial intelligence and other advanced technology
has raised questions about the future of work,
potentially upending every industry from advertising to insurance.
Health care is one sector where a high-tech makeover could both be beneficial,
aiding doctors and filling out burdensome paperwork or helping narrow down diagnoses,
but also due to patient privacy, access to health care, and the high cost of medical bills.
Cigna isn't alone in adopting new tech to remake its processes.
In April, Google's cloud division unveiled new tools for health care claims processing
that uses AI to organize data and streamline decision-making.
So, it sounds like this.
I'm going to come down to how this fucking machine feels about you because of algorithm words,
which I think is bullshit.
I don't need to read any further into it.
It's, yeah, they can call it whatever they want.
I think California might have this correct, 100% correct.
So, my hope is post-class action and they fight this bullshit before it begins very much.
So.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I kind of lost my concentration there a minute ago, Mark.
I was looking something up, something I was going to talk about,
and it took me into something else.
It's okay.
I was on the road with this shit because I'm very passionate about this stuff.
I know you were, I know you were, and I'm glad you were to kind of save me at this point.
That's okay.
I was going to say, you know, I've been talking about Ozark amphitheater down here in Campton, Missouri.
Well, they just announced October 6th, 38th special.
Oh, I wouldn't have seen 38th special.
I didn't know they still toured.
Yeah, well, I ran across that a while ago, and so I just tagged it and saved it, you know.
While you were talking about that, I was just pulling it up so I could talk about it.
That's okay.
It led me into the seating prices.
How much are the seating prices?
Oh, the upper level is like 40 bucks a seat, man.
Wow, that's a little bit pricier than I thought.
It's a smaller venue.
It's a small venue.
And you know, if like any concert, there's always a chance to move up.
Yeah, yeah, that's if I even feel like it anymore.
Yeah, right, right.
And actually down here, like I said, it's a small venue, so it's not too bad, really.
Yeah.
Okay, well, maybe we'll go to that one.
We'll see how it pans out.
Okay, we'll see.
All right.
That sounds good to me, and it'd be not, presumably it'd be a lot cooler then.
Well, I'll think about going in and buying a couple tickets.
All right.
Do you have something to go with?
If I can't...
Eat one up.
Yeah, buy a couple, and you know what?
Go ahead and get whoever you can to go with you, because I can get a ticket one way or
another.
I can get a ticket.
So...
Yeah, whatever.
Okay.
I will try to join you.
So...
Do you hear about Aaron Rodgers and his New York Jets getting into a huge fight?
Aaron Rodgers isn't a part of it that I know of.
But...
That's funny, because my next story is an Aaron Rodgers story.
Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead with yours, and then I'll go...
Go right ahead.
Okay.
Aaron Rodgers is a member of the New York Jets for at least the 2023 season.
It was nearly six weeks from the time Aaron Rodgers said he intends to play for the Jets
in 2023 to when the trade actually happened in late April.
The Jets have quickly become one of the more interesting teams going into 2023.
Yes, Rodgers headlines the reason why, however, the Jets have many other interesting storylines
to watch as well.
One of those storylines took place during a massive fight on the Jets, the very first
training camp practice.
Now, they started a week before, remember this, because they're on hard knocks.
A fight among teammates can be a bad look, but it's really not uncommon in training camp.
The Crosstown rival New York Giants had an incident last season and emerged from it by
clinching a playoff spot for the first time since 2016.
These issues are more of a side effect of players battling for roster spots than notable
dysfunction.
The Jets are going to be one of the most intriguing teams heading into 2023 and...
Okay, well, I'll get to that here in a minute, what I think.
And withdraw lots of scrutiny given their acquisition of Aaron Rodgers.
They were the most obvious selection for hard knocks this year, though they were very much
against being featured on the series.
Okay, number one, I think that if they really didn't want to be on the series, they would
not be on the series.
Number two, I don't think they're getting any traction.
I don't think anyone gives a shit.
Have you heard any Aaron Rodgers buzz?
None.
None of the other hard knocks story.
Nobody seems to really give a flying fuck, and I argue with that.
I think that's wrong.
I don't think everyone really cares.
And I think you hear more about Patrick Mahomes.
You hear more about Jalen Hurts.
You hear more about little Joey Burrow.
You hear more about all these other ones, but you don't hear that much about Aaron Rodgers
because a lot of different reasons, a lot of different reasons.
And he's done a lot of it himself at his own hands.
So I think that this fight thing probably did happen, but I think they're wasting no
time in making it much bigger than what it actually was.
So go ahead.
They did want to be on Hard Knocks 2.
If they didn't want to be on Hard Knocks, they would not have been on Hard Knocks.
You wouldn't see them on TV if they did not want to be.
They had to sign off on it.
So I call bullshit on that.
Anyhow, go ahead, Rob.
Okay, well, my story on Aaron Rodgers.
It was the future Hall of Fame quarterback Aaron Rodgers spent the first 18 years of his NFL career
at the Green Big Apples.
And even though the red step between him and the team seemed to feel a little bit sour this offseason,
it's clear the team still very much appreciates what he brought to the organization and they have plans to honor him.
During a speech to Green Bay Packers shareholders on Monday morning, Packers president Mark Murphy made it clear the team does intend to retire Rodgers' jersey number.
I would expect nothing else.
I mean, he's a Hall of Fame quarterback.
Yeah.
The quote was, we want to thank him for all he did during his remarkable 18-year career.
He will be first ballot Hall of Famer and we will bring him back and retire his number at the appropriate time.
We think it is the right time to move on.
We think Jordan Love is ready to sat three years behind a Hall of Fame quarterback and learn an awful lot.
Jordan Love did look better last year.
How much better?
We're going to see.
We're going to see how much better.
Will he be an Aaron Rodgers?
I doubt it.
Will he be a good quarterback that can maybe take him to the playoffs?
Maybe.
We'll see.
I mean, I mean, I guess he could be.
But I see no indication to tell me that he is a great starter.
You know, I mean, even Mahomes though, I mean, Mahomes his first year, he didn't get to play that much.
And when he was in the game, the last game of the year, because we're going to playoffs and they wanted to save Alex Smith for the for the postseason, they wanted to get hurt.
Mahomes did good, but he didn't do great.
So they were still going into the offseason where we really didn't know what quite what we had.
So they could be the deal with Jordan Love is he looks good, but not great.
But he's not, you know, maybe this is a year that he comes out just throwing everything, throwing like nuts.
Well, we'll see, you know, there's a there's a rare exceptions that sometimes when you do a Hall of Fame trade like this, where you trade a Hall of Famer and the team that goes to sinks and the team that he leaves the sense.
Keep an eye on this.
It could happen.
We'll see.
The chemistry over there in the Jets have not been proven.
The chemistry in Green Bay was.
Wasn't that good last year because they didn't make the playoffs.
We're going to see.
So, I mean, I kind of like and George Love was Green Bay.
It's going to be very interesting.
And this is what the NFL loves these storylines.
You know, like let's say Aaron Rodgers does good next year, you'll see a matchup between the two because I don't think they play this year.
I don't think they play each other.
And I doubt if you'll see them both in the Super Bowl.
So you're probably not going to see him play each other.
But like if both teams do well next year, you're going to see the matchup of the lifetime.
Aaron Rodgers goes back to Green Bay to battle his nemesis, Jordan Love.
And I love these storylines.
They'll have to sky wrestle.
Yes, it really is.
It really, really is.
Getting to be.
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
We're going to see here.
So I've got a story about Zach Wild.
You know, you know, Zach Wild is in Pantera right now, right?
Zach Wild does everything.
He's got his solo stuff.
He's got black label.
If Ozzy was to ever play again, he would be doing Ozzy too.
And he also has his solo stuff.
He also does Zach Sabbath.
He also plays in some other stuff here and there.
He goes into these jam things.
He plays everything and it shows he's great.
So anyhow, when I come back, Zach Wild opened up about Dimebag Darrell.
He was really good friends with Dimebag before he was shot and killed on stage.
And now he is filling in for Dimebag because Dimebag is no longer with us, obviously, playing Pantera shows.
And I'm not sure who's drumming for Vinnie Paul.
I got to look that up when I get a chance.
But Pantera is back in.
It's got Brown and Phil Insomno, Rex Brown and Phil Insomno playing.
And then, you know, with Zach Wild, which is a great replacement for Dimebag.
And then I don't know who the drummer is.
I think I did at one time.
But anyhow, when we come back, I'm going to cover that story.
So hang tight.
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I'm Mark.
And I'm Rob.
Welcome back.
All right, as for mentioned before the break, I was speaking about Pantera and how Zach was great friends with Dimebag.
And Dimebag, of course, was murdered on stage by that madman who was shot and killed, fortunately, right there on the same stage.
But not before he killed this wonderful musician and by all counts, a wonderful person.
He was awesome.
He truly was.
The way Zach Wilde talks about him and other people is he just had a heart of gold and just a fantastic person.
And someone cold bloodedly murdered him on stage.
But that idiot got murdered too.
So at least he's in a fiery pit of hell, probably.
Anyhow, talking exclusively in the new issue of Metal Hammer, Black Label Society leader Zach Wilde has reflected on consoling his close friend and Pantera predecessor Dimebag Darrell in the 2000s.
And this is the early 2000s, right after Pantera broke up.
Following Pantera's initial dissolution in the 2003 Dimebag, real name Darrell Abbott, and this is from Metal Hammer, was unsure of how to continue making music and start afresh with his next band, Damage Plan, according to Wilde.
The Damage Plan was pretty good.
They weren't nearly as good as Pantera, but I did like some of their stuff.
And I saw them at the Beaumont Club.
They put on a really good show too.
And they did a lot of Pantera stuff.
Any show I went to the Beaumont Club was country.
They later on, they started playing rock shows and metals.
Okay, when they first opened they were all country.
Just before they went out or whatever they did, quit or whatever, they were everything.
They played a lot of metal shows, death metal shows, grindcore shows, they played everything.
And they had a great stage for it and everything.
The one that I watched Damage Plan in, they were actually in a pit.
They weren't above everybody, they were below everybody playing.
Really interesting concept.
Are you talking about Pantera?
No, I'm talking about Damage Plan.
This was the after Pantera band of Dimebag.
I think Vinnie Paul was in it too.
I don't know.
Well anyhow.
Okay, so according to Wild Pantera, he had been the guitarist and his drummer,
rather Vinnie Paul's life work since they co-founded the groove metal four piece as teenagers in 1981.
And they went through a lot of changes.
It was in 1981 right?
And the thing is, Pantera was a rare band that was glam and then turned into like hard metal
or whatever you want to call it after the fact.
They went through the glam period and they did okay, they had some albums there.
But then they got Phil Insomo and Rex Brown with them and then the Pantera that we know about
went around kicking ass and just wiping people's faces off of them.
I liked them quite a bit but that's okay.
That was the only time I ever talked to Dimebag when he wasn't a force of positivity.
Wild told writer John Widerhorn.
Chloe was still upset about Pantera.
They worked so hard to get where they did and then it all ended.
He basically had to start over again.
He was like, Zach, what am I going to do?
To comfort him, Wild sent Dimebag a photo of late Ozzy Osborne guitarist Randy Rhodes
practicing guitar in front of a mirror.
I said to Dime, whenever you're feeling down, just look at this picture for inspiration,
he explained, which makes a lot of sense.
When Randy Rhodes died, Ozzy was lost.
He didn't know what he was going to do.
Right?
He was like, fuck.
Ozzy was saying this, he's like, man, everything's gone.
It's destroyed.
It's ruined.
He was depressed.
His miracle working guitarist and writer was gone just in one blink of an eye.
His best friend was gone.
He didn't know what to do.
With the last couple of Pantera records kept getting heavier and if they're on Salmo and
the drummer admitted, it was always like, no, we can't do that.
We have to stick to our sound.
It sounds to me like, and I kind of knew this was, like the directions they were going,
everybody in the band wasn't really on par with it.
It was kind of almost like the good old artistic direction or musical direction.
It was really kind of that type of a situation.
Then after that started a lot of in-fighting and then, you know, like probably Rex and
Dime were ganging up against the original two and they were probably, the two brothers
were probably like, you know, fuck those guys.
They weren't with us the whole time anyhow.
You know?
So, yeah.
So anyhow, I love that.
I love what Zach did, you know?
He just kind of compared it to the only thing he knew about that in his whole life.
That was like, look, you know, Ozzy could have folded up and said, you know what, we're
never going to do this again.
That's it.
It's done.
But he went out and he found Jakey Lee, did a couple of fantastic albums with Jakey Lee.
Yes, he did.
Yeah, that would be Bark at the Moon and it would also be The Ultimate Sin, two fantastic
records.
And then, depending on who you talk to, that fell apart.
I mean, the reasons why it fell apart depend on who you talk to.
So, then they went out and they got Zach Wild and Zach Wild has just been like insanely
successful and almost like Randy Rhoades did, you know?
Kind of like a very positive and great experience.
Revive Ozzy's career.
Refresh new life into him.
You know?
So, it was like a new beginning.
Yeah, you know, Randy Rhoades died and the music there was fantastic.
But also, another thing that wasn't said in this article, and I doubt if Zach said it
too, was Ozzy said all along that Randy Rhoades was not going to be with him much longer.
Randy Rhoades wanted to do acoustical stuff and he wanted to teach acoustical.
He didn't want to do any of the stuff that he was playing.
He just happened to be very good at it.
He didn't want to do Ozzy anymore.
He didn't want to play hard rock or heavy metal.
He wanted to do his own thing.
And Ozzy kept saying, come on man, we're just now hitting it big.
Stay with us.
But he said that he knew for sure.
And this was in like 95.
He said, Randy would not been with me today.
And I doubt if he would have been with me after Diary of a Madman anyhow because he
simply did not want to do that type of music anymore.
That wasn't what he liked.
So, you know, that era of Ozzy was probably gone anyhow because Randy didn't want to do
it anymore and he couldn't really talk him into it at the time.
So, I think that maybe his movie Gamelin was already happening anyhow so he had to go out
and find someone different.
He found Jakey Lee who was a fantastic, phenomenal guitarist and perfect for him at the time
with that 80s sound because Jake had that 80s sound.
But then when they evolved and went later into the later 80s like 87, 88, 89 and they
started doing different rhythms and different types of songs, Zach Wilde was the perfect
guy for that.
So, it all worked out and the new beginnings and everything that Zach was showing Dime
Bag was exactly what he was needing to hear and I think it's appropriate that Zach Wilde
is, nobody fills his shoes but stepping in his shoes to do this music again.
No.
I think it's fantastic.
I'm telling you, once I started listening to Zach Wilde I fell in love with him.
Oh, he's a phenomenal guitarist.
Phenomenal.
So, there's not very many people that can match even close to him.
So, like I said, there's a couple of them there that I like up there like Nuno Bettencourt
is one of them.
Zach Wilde, I mean, is just, yeah, there's people that can play really fast and really
quick and technically sound and there's people that can do all of that with feeling and Zach
and Nuno are like that.
All of that with feeling.
They can actually write a song.
They can actually write something that sounds that's good that you want to hear.
There's these guitarists like John Five is one of them, the Motley Crue now.
Don't care for them.
No feeling.
Just...
Nothing.
Nothing there.
No feeling.
Yeah, they're technically sound.
They fucking hit every note perfectly.
But they're boring.
So, anyhow, that's my take.
And, well, Rob, do you got anything you want to go with or are we going to go ahead and
shut this show down for tonight?
Actually, I'm thinking about shutting down, man.
Yeah, you're sounding like it.
You're sounding like it.
You got a final thought for us?
I'm not really sure.
All right.
Okay.
My final thought is...
It's a long day.
Okay.
My final thought...
Oh, hang on.
Hang on.
I've got to do this.
It's only going to take a couple of minutes.
I've got to retell my story about taking over my friend's Bluetooth many years ago in
his van.
You know what?
I'm going to write it all out.
Yeah, go ahead and do it.
That'll give me time to come up with a final thought.
Okay.
Well, back in the 90s...
Yeah, okay.
When they first...
Late 90s, I believe, they first started coming out with cell phones.
Then they evolved into internet phones.
And then one of the very first Bluetooths was, I think, I don't know, early 2000s, something
like that.
Well, I went out and I got one of those Nokia phones that had the internet on it and it
had Bluetooth on it.
Well, this old man that I used to work next to went out and he bought a van, a Chrysler
van that was Bluetooth enabled, but none of us knew what Bluetooth was.
So I was sitting there...
I believe I was talking or something.
Or what the hell was I doing?
Or...
Yeah, I wasn't really listening to internet radio.
Not much.
But he was right next to me in the parking lot.
And he turned on his car and it automatically connected to his...
I'd seen it flash up and say, would you like to connect to a so-and-so minivan?
And then before I had a chance to hit it, it connected to it.
And my stuff was running over his... on his speakers.
And he started looking around and going, what the hell?
And so I'm like, oh wow.
So I figured out that I could, being close to him, I could connect to him and play whatever
I wanted.
So anyhow, I was sitting there playing polka.
I found this polka station like a little bit before online.
So when I found that, I found that on the internet and I started playing polka music
on his van on lunch break.
And he's going nuts.
He doesn't even know what the fuck to think.
He's like, what the hell?
And he's like bitching about it and stuff and going nuts.
I'm going, I can't fucking believe it, man.
This fucking polka music stuff keeps coming out of my van.
And so he finally started shutting the car off to where it wouldn't play anything.
But then the weather started changing, started getting hotter.
So he started turning it on for the air conditioning because me and him used to go park right underneath
this shade tree.
He'd be on one side, I'd be on the other.
But one day I had to go to the doctor in the morning and that parking lot was already taken
and there was an auxiliary parking across the road.
I'm like, oh shit, I can't get him today.
So I go around the auxiliary parking lot and I start looking at my phone and it says, would
you like connect to so and so minivan?
No one else had a minivan like this brand new one that he bought.
And it was Bluetooth enabled.
Nobody knew it was Bluetooth.
Nobody knew what Bluetooth was at the time.
So anyhow, it connected to it and I'm way over another parking lot.
He doesn't even know that I'm there.
He thinks I'm missing today because I got there at lunchtime and I had to park in the
auxiliary parking lot and I'm still connected to his van and playing fucking polka music.
And I see him out there fucking shaking his hand.
It's like piss as hell.
He shuts his fucking van off.
He's sweating in it because he doesn't want to hear polka anymore.
And I'm like, all right, I go, well, the final test is, is he lived in Cleveland, Missouri,
like I did, and he lived up the road a little ways.
So anyhow, I was a couple of calls behind him.
Yes, I did.
I was a couple of calls behind him all the way home and it stayed connected the whole
time.
I had to, I had to kind of run the stoplight at Sneed's otherwise he was going to get away
from me.
So anyhow, I kind of ran the stoplight there.
But other than that, I was behind him the whole way and connected to him all the way
to Cleveland.
And then my house is like a few blocks away from him.
So I would turn down my street.
By the time he got to his street, he didn't care.
He shut the car off and probably didn't even notice that it shut off at that point.
So anyhow, he kept bitching about this and I told him, I said, man, I go, you know, I
really, I read a report somewhere that like these minivans have a fucking flaw in them.
He's like, yeah.
And I go, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a recall.
He goes, what?
I go, yeah, yeah, it's a recall, man.
They're playing like some weird ass fucking polka music or something.
And they don't know how to get it to quit.
You got to take them in and they like do something to it, like put some kind of computer thing
up to it.
And this shuts this shit down.
And he goes, really?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And I thought you were having some problems like that.
He goes, yeah, I want to take a fucker in.
They better fucking fix it, man.
I'm madder than hell.
I can't fucking quit.
Listen, this bullshit drive me nuts.
I'm like, okay.
So Bill goes into this place and he's screaming.
I'm going, fix my fucking, and they think he's nuts, man.
I would love to have been there.
I wasn't, but he said like, they're like pretty much laughed him out of the building.
He goes, it's happening every damn day.
And then they came out there.
He goes, here, come on out.
I'll show you.
And he couldn't get it.
And they're like, uh huh, okay.
They think he's a drunk or something.
Okay, buddy, sure.
So anyhow, it got so bad to where I remembered something the other day.
They even took the car in for a day to act like they did something to it because there's
nothing else they could have done with it.
This problem didn't exist.
There was not a recall on it or nothing.
So they actually took the car in for a day to appease him.
And then finally, I think they were pursuing like some sort of an order against him because
he kept fucking with him saying, fix my car and there's nothing wrong with it.
So he ended up trading it in.
And then that's when the fun stopped.
He traded in his new mini bag because I got fucking with him with a station that was called
Cape Holt, which is still on air because I played it when I told the story with Topher.
And the reason I'm telling the story again is because I think I went to school with this
guy.
He sent me a request for that story that he heard and I could not find it in the archives
anywhere.
I'm not sure what episode it's on, but I can't find it.
So here I am repeating the story.
That's the story you mentioned on the last one.
Yes.
That you were going to dig up.
Okay.
Yes.
Yeah.
Or I mentioned to you or something because my friend, I'm pretty sure I went to school
with him, but anyhow.
You mentioned it on the air.
Okay.
Yeah.
The story you were going to look at.
Yeah, you found it.
Okay.
Yeah.
And that's the story that I was just going to go find it and then just add it on to a
podcast, but I couldn't find it.
I don't know where it's at.
So I had to do it like this.
So anyhow, there you go everybody.
In Cape Holt, my phone is over there and I'm not going to bother even looking for it tonight,
but Cape Holt still exists and they still play polka music 24 seven.
So anyhow, Rob have a fantastic evening.
Thank you everybody for listening.
I hope you have a great night.
Bye.
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