Hello, welcome and thanks for listening to Carbon Climates, an entry broadcast dedicated
to discussing all things energy, carbon and sustainability. We also like to talk about
what's getting hot, besides from our planet. I'm your host, Enya, and today I'm joined
by my Carbon Climate co-host, Hannah. Hi, Hannah.
Hey, Enya.
So you're back again by popular demand.
I'm back again. This time I'm getting paid.
Yeah.
Really exciting.
Oh my goodness. We're going to cut that out. Okay.
For those who listen to me before they know that I did request this.
But yeah, I actually got a lot like your first episode is aired. Yeah.
Everything. And I got a lot of feedback from it. Loads of people saying you're really funny.
And like, you know, how...
Who? Who? Who's saying I'm really funny?
At least five people told me you were really funny.
Me. I was like, this one's really funny.
Yeah. What was it? Was it Mark? Mark Clements from episode three? Did he say it?
Yeah. I actually don't know what his opinion was.
Yeah, I actually need to check it up.
I'll ask him literally after this.
Okay.
How he feels about... How did you feel? You know from...
You know that show? Oh, you know with the Mighty Boosh?
Yes.
Like the Lincoln Assessment.
Yeah. No, that's good. Well, it's good to have you back on.
Thanks. I'm glad to be here. We're excited.
Yeah. Well, you should be because today we're going to talk about what an LCEA is.
And like what it means to become a low carbon energy assessor.
Because you yourself, you've been through this process.
I have.
A couple of years ago.
Probably less than a year ago.
Okay.
Wait.
Oh, calm down. I'm 25.
So yeah, I always say that. I've actually got a... I've got a speech to give in Maytime
to a group of people.
Oh, really?
Oh, this is for the 30 under 30.
And I'm going to start off with a joke about my age. So I was going to be like, oh, I'm
in, yeah, I'm 29. And I just about made the cusp to be here in the 30 under 30.
Yeah, this was my last year doing a plot.
Yeah. Yeah. And then so it'll be like, you know...
Someone's like, actually, you can apply when you're 30.
Yeah. Yeah. And then I'm just like, okay. But then I was going to make one. It's just
like, hi, I'm 29. I know I look 20. And if like, you know...
And if no one laughs.
If no one laughs.
And then you're going to add it off to a bad start. You're going to feel offended. You're
going to be annoyed at the crowd. You're going to get a bit of a fight.
And then I'm just like...
I'm just going to be like, you know what? Forget it.
You know what? You just rip off the card.
So yeah. Well, we kind of start back into the usual Club and Climb mates format. How
has your week been? Has it been good?
Yeah, pretty good. I mean, it's Monday today. So, you know, not much to talk about right
now. I mean, it's a big week for me.
It is a big week for you.
It's my last week in Northern Ireland.
How do you stay at night?
I think I'm desensitised. I have to remain desensitised so that things don't spiral out
of control.
Yeah, that's...
So we won't talk about it till the last day.
I know. It'll be like, again, we've joked. We kept on saying it's going to be like, you
know, the office. And you come to me and you're just like, yeah, let's go for lunch tomorrow
on my last day.
But I can't actually do that. Like, you know, there's protocols in place. I can't pretend
it's my last day.
There's security, okay.
I can't say to Alan, like, it's my last day. Surprise!
And he's like, we can't pay you. You lied to us.
Yeah. You're going to jail, okay?
I've been in prison for a long time, kid. Forget about London.
Oh my god. You have to hear one way or another.
It's great. How's your week been going?
Thanks for asking.
Has no one asked?
It's been pretty... No, it's been good.
It's been a grand, busy week. We're very busy in work, as you know.
Yeah.
So just getting a lot of handovers. It's actually really good to think about because at the
moment there is four low carbon energy sensors in this office.
Yeah.
So like, about like maybe four years ago, there was one.
Was that Alan?
That was Alan.
Okay.
And then there's me.
And Alan's you.
And then there's you.
Yep.
And then Louise.
Louise.
Yeah.
And then...
That's it.
We'll go back down to three.
It'll be a while, I think, because obviously you have to do two years.
Yeah. But yeah, so I always talk to people.
It's great having you on, like, Hannah, you're my tea buddy. We go for tea every day.
Is that all I have, do you?
No, you're one of my best friends.
Okay. Thank you.
Yeah.
But like, you know, we go for tea every day.
We do.
Okay. Tea or coffee. And we just chat and talk about life.
We do.
The mysteries of life. And like, it's really great because you're one of the people I talk
to this... talk about the podcast with.
Yeah.
One of the reasons I wanted to start it, as you know, is just to show that there's lots
of job roles in the energy field. Like, if you're ever feeling lost or, like, you know,
a bit overwhelmed, like, I don't know what I want to do.
Yeah.
Or that career doesn't seem viable. It was in the exact same boat.
Just remember, you can always fall back on podcasts.
Yeah.
Just remember.
Wow. Like, yeah, brilliant.
Thanks for sending it.
But yeah, like, you know, what is it? But like, it's career's like, I'm quickly moving
off before I cry.
Yeah.
I just like wanted to... the title of Low Carbon Energy Assessor.
Yeah.
Like, it's a title that no idea existed when they first came in.
Yeah, I didn't know what it was either.
And yeah, it was like, you know, it's an eye opener now that you've got that qualification.
You're unstoppable.
Sure. I mean, like, it could still be stopped by CQA.
Okay. Yeah. You could still be stopped in general.
Yeah. You could be stopped in the streets at any time.
Yeah. Yeah. So I kind of want to go through, first off, to be an LCA. LCA is kind of one
of those things like chartership, like having a master's, like... I'm trying to think of
another comparable term.
An LCC.
An LCC. Like getting an LCC, which stands for Low Carbon Consultant. As a form of...
it gives you that qualification of energy assessment that makes you more employable
and more attractive to employers to...
Yeah.
I do hear you. But yeah, it makes you more attractive to employers if you have this qualification
in the energy assessment world. So kind of want to go through today's podcast and talk
about it. So, Hannah, you first got your LCA about a year and a half, two years ago.
No, I think...
I think it was 2020.
I think it was 20... it was 2023. And I think it was October.
Right. Okay.
Yeah. So pretty recent.
Pretty recent. Okay. Last...
Maybe November. Yeah.
I don't know when this is going to air. So it's going to be...
At some point.
Yeah. So...
I'd say a year.
Yeah. But a year ago.
Yeah. So you have to do, as you're aware, you have to have two years in industry experience.
They're very specific with that. They don't accept a master's.
Two years industry experience.
Yeah. So yeah, you have to have two years in industry experience. And they are specific
about that. So, you can't count your masters towards it. That is, you need to be working
actively on producing APCs, producing Google, working with like Sfm engines and your DSM
edit functions, which is your simplified building energy model and your dynamic simulation.
So you need to build up your CPD for that and continue your national development. Don't
want to throw too many jargons in there.
No, no, no. It's good. Because see, for anyone who has started as an engineer, I think they've
already come across these terms, especially CPD.
Yeah. So corporate-wide. So yeah, so spent the last two years doing that. So I think
when I was qualified, I'd been here about two and a half years maybe. So literally just
tried to get that ready as soon as I could. And that was fine. The CPD itself is easy
enough to build up, to collate. But obviously the application, that's when you've got to
do your exam, your software exam, and then you have to do your LCC, which is your low
carbon consultancy exam. And then obviously you have to do the application. So kind of
explaining what you would do on a daily basis, giving them a CV of your experience. And as
like you and Louise are level three, four and five qualified, which meant you have to
give examples on new and existing buildings at three and four and five, which is just
the level of detail that you would simulate as that. So yeah, it was a process. I wouldn't
say it was like extremely hard because it's the sort of thing we do on a daily basis anyway.
Like you're doing the job, kind of you're building that experience up anyway. Now it
does mean I have a bit more responsibility, which can be a bit nerving, I find, nerving.
Now I can upload my own energy performance certificates for my own brew calls and that's
under my name, which you know, obviously, like I said, you can get QA'd at any time.
And what, like what is the process of QA? You know, I haven't been QA'd. What do you
mean? You've uploaded. I know. And I haven't been QA'd. Or was it not in? It was only in
England. Only in England. So I have uploaded one in Northern Ireland. Right. But again,
I haven't had anything back. So I haven't done it yet to do my first QA. I'll be really
nervous. See my first, my first DBC upload was by a couple years ago in Scotland. Scotland,
I remember. So it was QA'd. QA'd for anyone who doesn't know is when you are, it means
that's for quality assurance, doesn't it? Quality assurance. So they basically check
all your work. Yeah. It's pretty much the accreditation body, whoever you're accredited
with. So there's CIPC. Who else? Elmhurst. Yes, Elmhurst. They probably should have.
Does Energy Institute? I don't know. Energy Institute wouldn't. No, it's more like a
charter ship body. I'll add it out. The long pauses. What was it? Long pause, no answer.
Confessions of a shopaholic. I'm going to watch that tonight. That's a good one. So
sorry, I typed in LCA to Google. Oh yeah. And what about you? That got you a lot. You
know what came up? Local Clinical Excellence Award. I'll apply for that most of my time.
So I think CIPC are the ones who offer low carbon energy assessment. Is it just them?
Qualification. I think the other people, the other people, the other boards, if there are
any, maybe might name it differently because. Yeah, they probably do. They probably do because
it's probably like a copyright thing. Because Elmhurst named it NDA, so Non-Domestic Energy
Assessor. So yeah. The more you know. The more you know. Like, yeah, brilliant. Okay.
Well, yes. What was the most, so the application, CIPC do give a step by step guide on how to
like, grab the application. I remember going through the application and the thing that
was most difficult to me was the NOS units. Yeah. They are just the most tedious. And
after this, you definitely found like, because obviously you have to fill out the application
for your level three and four and then your five and then the same questions. So it was
quite repetitive in most of them and they're pretty stringent. Like they will come back
to you if they're not happy with your application. Yes. There's a couple of times, you know,
they asked for a bit more, you know, evidence, which I guess is good. You know, like they,
the QA for the process is pretty good. Yeah. It was, it wasn't, I wouldn't say it was
sort of hard, but it was, you know, you put a lot of effort into it. You definitely do.
It's like, I don't want to compare it to you, Nia, but it's like, you know, a great project.
Yeah. Actually, when I have got like the document somewhere over all my application, I think
it was close to 10,000 words. Wow. I could be saying something that's completely not
true. But like there was a lot of words, maybe 5,000. Well, it's funny because I did that
and that was a big one. I did the on construction domestic energy assessment before and it was,
it was weird because I feel like it was the same amount of material, but it was a different
like submission and that you had to create like, you know, oh, this is my pamphlet that
I was getting. Yeah. You said it's like a portfolio thing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I look
forward to that in the future. Yeah. You definitely like, I hope you don't do it online. I hope
you get to go to letter work. But you know what? It's way more expensive. Yeah. 700 pounds
and I don't know if I can say that. No, this is the thing. Like this podcast is out here
to like, you know, educate, you know, it says it on the website. Like if you go on the website,
yeah, like the prices are very transparent. I don't know why they touch more. I think
you like, when you do the in-person one, they take you to like an example, like house or
something. And they'll like talk you through an onsite survey. Right. That's the difference.
So it's a bit more proactive. Because, because Peter said to me anyway, you know what? That's
for his domestic energy assessment. Peter lied to me. See for his fee, see for the OCDA,
the own construction. Because I did my own construction domestic energy course then.
Do you know when I did it? It was before I was here. Yeah. It was before I was in college.
It was before I was born. It was many years ago. Yeah. Well, like four or five years ago
now. I did it 2019. Five years ago then. Before COVID, EC. EC before COVID. Yeah. You know,
you had it, you had a brew and it was just, it was a simpler time. No, it wasn't. It was
a weird time. Did you do it, was it during COVID? No. No, no, it was just before. Like
it was in the August 2019. But it was weird because you know the way like during COVID
here and you moved over to Northern Ireland during that time. Yeah. During COVID here,
like, you know, kind of felt, oh, like, you know, you know, it's a bit awkward. Like,
I don't really know where it came from. But even then I remember just feeling like a lot
of tension then just like in general, because we still didn't have a Northern Ireland executive.
So there's a lot of stuff that like, we don't know what's going to happen. Yeah. Like, you
know. I wasn't here during the height of COVID to be fair to you. I moved over, I think,
was it like the first Christmas that we had? So like during that whole summer, I was at
home. Right, okay. We moved to bring the September. Everything was lifted slightly and then we
went back into lockdown during Christmas, which was horrible because obviously the summer
COVID lockdown was like kind of fun. Yeah. We didn't know what was going on. The Christmas
one that was like with others before. It's cold. We can't even do anything. Yeah. Yeah.
So that was sad. But that's why I had to stay here a bit longer to really experience it.
To get to know Northern Ireland as it is. Northern Ireland. Little facility. Little
city. Nice wee time. Little bit of a city. Yeah. So yeah, that's really good. Really
good. Thank you for talking us through the process. You're more than welcome. Of course.
Yeah. And we've only talked about the first thing. What's the second thing? Well, second
thing was, what inspired you? Well, my card says who? Who inspired you? Yeah. Who inspired
you? Real mum. Yeah. Joanne. She's really active on LinkedIn. Yeah. Friending everyone.
She knows we went to primary school together. Yeah. But I guess we spoke about it, didn't
we, when I sort of asked about my career progression. Because you were doing your LCEA around the
time that I started, do you remember? So I was kind of intrigued about what that was
and what it meant for me. So it was something I brought up in my first review. And then
obviously you have to do your low carbon consultant exam. Yeah. Before you can, you know, as part
of your low carbon energy assessor application. So I did that in my first, did that in my
second year. And so kind of just speaking to yourself and then speaking to Alan, doing
a bit of research myself. I mean, it just felt like a natural progression for my career
because I was already doing EBCs and brookles under Alan. So I may as well do a qualification
and do it under my own name. Yeah, exactly. That's really great as well. And then look
at you now. Look at me now. Head into London with this qualification. A big city. And it's
actually amazing because like, I don't think you realize like how many people, maybe they
know how to create an EPC. Yeah. But they maybe actually don't have the qualification
to issue it. It was a very, I'm trying to think of the word. High opening or? High opening
confidence boosting situation maybe. I wasn't, I was very nervous to apply for jobs in London
coming from Belfast. I've never worked in London before. And honestly, you know, I was
met with a lot of opportunities and I was really fortunate when I was looking for a
new job. Because as you know, I'm staying in the same field. Yeah. I'm going to continue
this sort of career in a different company. And yeah, there was a lot out there for me.
And I was obviously told that that's because of my qualifications and because of how young
I am and to be qualified. So I was really lucky to become qualified in this company
because now I, it just has opened a lot more opportunities for me in London. So yeah, I
was surprised. I don't think there's that many people qualified as maybe I thought there
would be. Maybe just very niche. Yeah. Or you find like, what is it? Like, because you'd
find that like maybe one person is qualified and then everyone submits under that and then
everyone submits under their name or like they teach everyone and they're like, yeah,
you can build this up for me. And then I don't know if I'd want someone to do that for me
if I build it up. Yeah. It's you know what? You'll know by the person. Like, you know,
it's like, right? Okay, like, you know, it'd be fine. But then there's people like who
like Alan, like he would check stuff. Like he was like, okay, I'll check your K.A. He's
pretty confident in trust. Yeah. And it's like, you shouldn't trust him. Yeah. Like,
you know, wait a second. You sure you trust me? Yeah. So I'm looking forward to it and
meeting new people in this career. Yeah. Well, that actually brings us on to our other topic.
Okay. You have recently joined a committee. I have to under... A committee. You've joined
the... YEN, the Young Engineers Network, London, as the communications officer. Communications
officer. Yes. Very good. By the time... What is it? This comes out, you'll be fully fledged
in the role. So I hope you share this. I share it on the CYBC YEN. Yeah. I'm pretty excited
because obviously that'll give me an opportunity to meet people in our industry in London.
Yeah. And I think it's also nice because for example, like seeing yourself, you know, you're
pretty heavy, heavily involved in the Energy Institute. You've made a lot of contacts.
You've done really well for yourself in terms of networking and you know, I want to do the
same. So you've inspired me and... Start, please. I'm excited. Yeah. Excited. That's
so good. And you've already got like connections with CYBC here. I do. Max. Max McComb. Max
is the chair of the Northern Irish committee. He's lovely. It's really nice. And he kind
of pointed me in the right direction. Like she did. He did ask for his advice. So CYBC
just seems like the right bit. Yeah. Well, you know, like I use CYBC a lot on my day
to day life. So like the M59s, you know, CYBC guide A. Yeah. Well, you know, obviously,
yeah, we're members through the Low Carbon Energy Assessor. So it felt like the right
path for me. Definitely looking towards chartership at some point and then near, well, I'd say
near future. I'll give myself some time, some breathing time. That's like one of the things
I find because I literally remember just doing the LCA. And then you went straight into it,
straight into it. Not straight into chartership. But like, I remember, I think one of my reviews
just like, oh yeah, what about chartership? I was like, can I breathe? Like, can I breathe?
Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm going to go for it. Like, I'm going to give myself two years.
You know what? See what's, this is just general advice. I know we're talking about podcasts,
but general advice. What chartership applications love is like, not management experience, but
the fact that say you're teaching someone and if you're teaching someone passing on
your skills, like, it's loved. Yeah. Essentially Peter. Peter. But yes, and also I'm sure in
your new role as well, there'll be some people that take on like, you know, the training.
Yeah. I mean, obviously I have no idea of the dynamic yet, but I kind of think I'm going
in like a middle level, which is exciting. You know, this was my first job out of uni.
So I have no idea really what to expect moving in as someone who's already got the experience.
So I'm excited to see what that's like. So you're part of the Young Engineers Network
for SIPSE. Yeah. I'm part of the Young Professionals Network for Energy Institute. Yeah. And Kristen
is part of the Young Members Network for IMEC. All these bodies are within the engineering
realm and you can apply to be part of them and they're a great organisation to join if
you would like to be chartered. They provide lots of helpful tools like what you should
do in your application, et cetera. But yeah, I can't recommend to join it enough, but I
love the way like, okay, just even I'm showing you the piece of paper I've written down.
Yeah. Like just look at them. Like they're so... What the Y in? It's only the middle
letter that changes. That changes. I mean, they're all the same thing, aren't they? And
engineers, engineering, professionals, young people in the industry, engineering, professional
members. How have you found that your career has changed from being part of a young members
or the Young Professionals Committee? How has it changed? I would definitely say it's
made me a lot more aware of the different jobs than the energy industry. I kind of joined
the Energy Institute committee back in 2022. Yeah. And was on the position as secretary.
So... Yeah. So you're part of the big boy, the actual Energy Institute. The big boys.
And then with the Energy Institute, you can join, become the YPN. You're the chair? Oh
no. No. William would be chair. William's the chair. You are the vice chair. Is that
correct? Vice chair. We'll see. There's like an informal role. I'd say informal role. Definitely
help out as much as I can. What is it? That's what I'll say. I'll be humble about it. It's
like, like I help out when I can. I help out when I'm needed. When I'm needed. My name
goes on. He does all the work and I put my name on it. But yeah, one of the things like
we're definitely have good things with Ulster University. Yep. And we were like... I think
there's like 11 events from the YE and every year. Yeah. No, that would make sense. I think
they try to do once a month. Once a month except August because apparently it's a busy
month for everyone. That's fair. That's fair. Not for me. I'll be here. I'll be here. Where
I am. I won't be going on holiday. Seeing it in. We should probably get back on track
because I feel like a lot of us are going to have to edit. Yeah. You'll have a nice
time listening to it. Yeah. That'll be good. Office banter. Office banter. Well, Hannah,
like you know, this podcast, the episode, it's kind of to talk about your accreditations
and all your accreditations you've achieved so far because it hasn't just been your LCA.
What else have you done? Oh, what do you mean what else have I done? Well, I'm sorry. That
sounded like a very pointed question. What else have you done? Yeah. No. Well, okay.
You've maybe not got qualifications, but you've learned SATs. Yes. I've learned how to do
the SATs and you've learned how to build U-values. U-values. Have a lot of fun building up a
U-value. And you've learned how to input thermal bridging. I haven't. That's not true. Thermal
bridging. No, no, no. Thermal bridging. Like what it actually is. Oh yeah. I mean, I guess
kind of. Because loads of people don't do that. They just use default. Yeah. Overheating.
Overheating. Yeah. Document O. Document O. Report issuing them and. Whole life carbon
assessments. That's a real treat. Whole life carbon. Yes. That's using. Yes. You're one
of the only ones in the office who knows how to do that. One of the only ones is like three
of us. Okay. And uses the one click software. Yeah. And it really gives an insight into
embodied carbon. It's a learning curve. It feels like it's simple, but it's the more
you think about it. It's not. Not simple. Okay. You know, you have to be sort of confident
speak to the quantity surveyors, structural engineers. You know, like we would never really
speak to structural engineers and then you do have to speak to them when you do your
whole life carbon assessments and your LCA's and all that jazz. So I have to really, I've
been really trying to build up, well, just as I've been talking to people with more confidence
in speaking about the structural parts of the building. Cause I, you know, I don't come
from structural background. So a lot of it is a massive learning curve. So I've done
a little bit of that. That's good. That's good. And that's the thing with how would
you compare yourself now to when you first entered the role, like public or school? I
knew nothing. I literally knew nothing. You know, I've never looked at like a ventilation
drawing. I never like, you know, I couldn't even told you what like a gas combi boiler
even was. And we had one in our house. You know what you value was, you know, learn everything
on the job. Feel a lot more confident. And you know what, when I ask you, what did you
find to be the most effective teaching method for yourself? Just vocational, I think like
literally on the job. Like, you know, you do have to do a lot of reading, but you will
only learn through making mistakes. And that probably sounds like a, you know, not a great
way to learn, but it's the only way. It's yeah. Cause you're like, I won't read that
again. Because then you know what you've done. And then, and I find as well, people can tell
you stuff and you know, they can come at you and tell you things. But for me, the way I
learn is I need to know how and why something is the way it is. So, you know, it's all well
and good saying like, I don't even know. I can't think of the top of my head, but like,
I want to know, I find if I know how something works, it tends to stick, you know? So that's
how I would learn. Okay. That's really great here. Yeah. See talking to people is the best
way to learn. Yeah. I think, you know, like it is a bit nerve wracking, like speaking
to like the other parts of the design team. But it's the best way. Cause then you find
all these things out that you would never have found out if you'd sent them an email.
Yeah. You should just have a chat with them and ask them questions. You find out way more.
I always would prefer to have a chat with someone and send them an email and then obviously
follow up with an email. Yeah. I think before COVID, I used to, like we used to share the
same office as Caldwell's. Yeah. So you just like go up. I still do. Like I would much
prefer. See, I would, but that's like three stories. Yeah. I do like to go up and have
a chat because I think it's, I still want to stretch my legs. Um, and then I like to
have a chat with them. We break it to know. Then sometimes they'll be like, Oh, here,
what's inside? And you're like, Oh, I didn't know that. Brilliant. Okay. I'm going to take
that with me. And then you've built a relationship with them. They put a name to the face. But
yeah, no, but that's, that's great. I feel like we're given the inside scoop into what
it's like. I'm working in an office in an office. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's the
sausage rolls you make the mustard? No, they're like with bacon and chutney. I know because
Ryan was like, are you going to make sausage rolls for when you leave? And I was like,
do you think I have time to make sausage rolls before I leave? And he was like, they better
be from a bakery. And I'm like, ah, I don't know where they're right. Sometimes be so
cocky. And I was like, ah, you'll be lucky if I bring them in from Tesco. Yeah. I actually
still haven't brought in stuff from my birthday. I didn't bring anything because my birthday
was on the works too. So yeah, doing this. No, just not. I'll bring some salt bought
sausage rolls in. People will still eat them. I guarantee. Oh yeah. People will like, you
know, probably even faster regardless. So yeah, I'll cut them up so they're half. Can
I get a full sausage roll? You can. Brilliant. One of the things I do want to introduce to
this podcast. We were talking about it. It's the process of video cameras. Yeah. I mean,
yeah. It's like you can if you want to. I will never be on the podcast ever again. Will
you fly over to be in the podcast? No, we'll have to do a team school. Oh my god. Like
I'm a celebrity who's like far away somewhere, you know, like off season. I'm like, hey,
thanks for having me. It's like maybe the audience of it. I was saying hi guys. Why
why is it funny? Yeah. The cabin. Yeah. What if I fly over with my staff to do an interview
like with you? Yeah, you did. That would be a big commitment on your part. So sure. I
used to be one of those people before I was like, you know, brought down with like, not
like, you know, for a last time I was grounded. Yeah. For us last adoring with the responsibilities
of life. And I used to be like, oh, my flight somewhere like, you know, I've never been
like that. I was going to go like one of my flights was to go to Bucharest because of
the like, you know, Dracula, really big Dracula. Oh, yeah. You want to go to Transylvania?
Yeah. But then that was the year COVID. So it didn't happen. So fair enough. I mean,
I've never been drawn to Bucharest. Yeah. In Rome in October. Amazing. Yeah. It's going
to be like Kristen Bell's acclaimed 2006 movie When in Room. I don't think I've seen
that. Yeah, you really should. It's really good. I think that's her and Doc Shepard
that. Her husband. Really? That's what they met. I'll look it up. I want to retract my
memory. 2006. It's 2010. OK, that is 14 years. Oh, don't. I remember going to see that for
my birthday. Oh, do you know, I went to go see them for like, I was really young and
like it was my first birthday with their friends and stuff. We went to the cinema to see the
Golden Compass. The Golden Compass. Oh, my goodness. That is it's weird because I know
it's a Nordese film. But like it's a Nordese film. It's not 2000. Wait, is Nordese mean
2000? Yeah, yeah. Nordese means like 2000 and 2010. Yeah, it was probably in that era.
Yeah. Can you tell me when the Golden Compass was made? 2005? You're so close. 2007. That
would have been nine. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God. Get out. You'd have
been 13. Oh, my God. No, I would have been 12. 2007. 1985. I'm 1998. I'm just on the
cusp. I probably would have been eight. Do you actually? No, it was my birthday. It was
probably nine. It was probably my birthday. Wow. Wow. Well, that's great. I remember like,
what is it? I was talking about the podcast at lunch. Yeah. And I was like telling the
girls, like, you know, Tanya and Dipti from upstairs. Great film modelers, by the way.
Yeah. I think it was Dipti who was like, oh, like, what's it on? And then I was kind of
explaining and it's like, oh, yeah, okay. It's kind of like what it's like to work in
this industry. If you want to. I think I know what you're going with this. It's like, if
you want to have a job, it's like, oh, yeah, but not this, like something more interesting.
Like, you know, it was something like, you know, something like film or like, you know,
our job. Yeah. And then like, she's kind of like, okay. I thought you were going with
it in the way you were like, what's it on? As in she was like, you know, what platform
can I watch, listen to it on? Oh, where I thought you were going with that. All right.
Yeah. And then you like explained the whole thing and she was like, no, why can I listen?
Yeah. And it's like, well, okay. It's like, you know what? I'm just not going to ask you
any questions again. Yeah. I'm going to go. Yeah. Well, well, what do you think about
that? Do you, is there anyone else, anything else you would like to cover? Because I feel
we've gone in detail about the plan to become an LCA, which I feel like is an important
chunk for an energy engineers progress. And also talked about joining an organization.
Yeah. And then also talked about general office. Just us, just on fuller. Yeah. I don't think
so. Yeah. Is there anything you want to talk about? You know, it's been a rough couple
of weeks. Actually, I do. Actually, it's a log story. How much time have you got? Yeah.
And you're like, you're like, forget half sick. Yeah. So I get half six. You're lucky
if you get over here at half seven. Yeah. You're lucky if you're out here before nightfall.
That's the one thing I will say that I like the nights have got brighter. Yeah. So they
have indeed. You know, I do like summer. Yeah. I do like summer. But for winter. I prefer
autumn. Oh, you're a Halloween girlie. No, aren't you? Yeah. Christmas bitch. Is that
the term? Yeah. That's it. Official term. Official term. Dictionary Christmas bitch.
Holiday boys. That's the holiday boys. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how to kind
of just say thank you so much. You've been absolutely amazing to have on the podcast.
You're welcome. And even though it's your second podcast, this definitely is not your
last podcast. Always a pleasure. Never a chore. I feel like I should give some context. I
don't know why, but I say that to every. Yeah. Every. Yeah. Someone steps in front of me.
Always a pleasure. Never a chore. And they're just going to look at me. It's like, can you
leave? Like, yeah, no, thank you for having me on the podcast. This will not be my last
one. And I think when I tag you, I'll tag your new job role as well. Yeah. We'll keep
it on the download for now. It's okay. Keep everyone on their seats. Yeah. We're not friends
anymore. That's sad. So sad. Hi. You're like, hi, Anya. How are you? Yeah. It's like really
like, oh yeah. I'm really good. Thanks. Yeah. I'm really good. Thanks. Oh, so good to hear
from you. The weather's been pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty good actually. And haven't
been up to much. It's been saving. Yeah. It's been saving, you know, working away. Work's
busy. Yeah. Work's busy. I had a ham and cheese sandwich for lunch. Yeah. Yeah. It was really
good. No, but I want that to be like what we talk about every day. I'm like, what did
you have for lunch? Yeah. Every single day. Yeah. Chicken salad. Yeah. Because I feel
like I'll be talking to you on Instagram and then you'll be talking to Kristen on WhatsApp.
I will not talk to her on WhatsApp. She doesn't really use Instagram. She has to. I don't
talk to her in any other way. I've also done Instagram. She's like shaking. She's like,
hi, hi. It's like a voice. Well, sorry. Sorry. My bad. Why did you just throw your phone
at me? Anya, why have I got a black eye? You're in the office, you know, the recording.
It's like, why are you taking your pants off? You can put your pants back on. Oh my God.
Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Did you watch the office last time you were on the podcast?
Yeah, I was. I think I'd finished it a while back. Yeah. I was ready to start all over
again once I finished Desperate Housewives. Well, I have to say, I think people will definitely
laugh at this podcast episode as well because again, if you laugh, you can send me a £5
or PayPal. Yeah. Cross-truckle. Just to support my small business. Business is me getting
lunch in London. Yeah. So you have to send me minimum £20. Minimum £20 so I can afford
a cup of tea. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Hannah, thank you so much for being on the podcast. You're
welcome. Yeah. And this definitely isn't your last one. Absolutely not. I'll fly over and
get you to record your voice. This time I'll pay you. Yeah, you pay. I just want to clarify
Hannah's not getting paid. That's what she wants you to know. It's just me just like,
I guess she got paid. You guys are getting paid. You guys are getting paid. Yes. But
yeah, no thanks for coming on. You're welcome. I will see you tomorrow. I will see you after
the function. I'll see you. Yeah. You just leave. You're like, you put down the heavens
like bye. Bye. I'm like, I've got to go. I've got to catch a train. Yeah. I'm like, wait.
There's no trains in New England. I'll end it there. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thanks for listening
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