1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:22,640 Hello, welcome and thanks for listening to Carbon Climates, an entry broadcast dedicated 2 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,920 to discussing all things energy, carbon and sustainability. We also like to talk about 3 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,400 what's getting hot, besides from our planet. I'm your host, Enya, and today I'm joined 4 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,840 by my Carbon Climate co-host, Hannah. Hi, Hannah. 5 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,360 Hey, Enya. 6 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,320 So you're back again by popular demand. 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,280 I'm back again. This time I'm getting paid. 8 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,280 Yeah. 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,280 Really exciting. 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,760 Oh my goodness. We're going to cut that out. Okay. 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,600 For those who listen to me before they know that I did request this. 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:58,520 But yeah, I actually got a lot like your first episode is aired. Yeah. 13 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,640 Everything. And I got a lot of feedback from it. Loads of people saying you're really funny. 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,640 And like, you know, how... 15 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,640 Who? Who? Who's saying I'm really funny? 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,240 At least five people told me you were really funny. 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,720 Me. I was like, this one's really funny. 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,760 Yeah. What was it? Was it Mark? Mark Clements from episode three? Did he say it? 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,080 Yeah. I actually don't know what his opinion was. 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Yeah, I actually need to check it up. 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,200 I'll ask him literally after this. 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,200 Okay. 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,880 How he feels about... How did you feel? You know from... 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,840 You know that show? Oh, you know with the Mighty Boosh? 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:30,840 Yes. 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,840 Like the Lincoln Assessment. 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,000 Yeah. No, that's good. Well, it's good to have you back on. 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,200 Thanks. I'm glad to be here. We're excited. 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:48,840 Yeah. Well, you should be because today we're going to talk about what an LCEA is. 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,280 And like what it means to become a low carbon energy assessor. 31 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,760 Because you yourself, you've been through this process. 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:57,760 I have. 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:58,760 A couple of years ago. 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,760 Probably less than a year ago. 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:01,760 Okay. 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:02,760 Wait. 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,760 Oh, calm down. I'm 25. 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:11,520 So yeah, I always say that. I've actually got a... I've got a speech to give in Maytime 39 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,520 to a group of people. 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:13,520 Oh, really? 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,520 Oh, this is for the 30 under 30. 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,840 And I'm going to start off with a joke about my age. So I was going to be like, oh, I'm 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,520 in, yeah, I'm 29. And I just about made the cusp to be here in the 30 under 30. 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Yeah, this was my last year doing a plot. 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Yeah. Yeah. And then so it'll be like, you know... 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,400 Someone's like, actually, you can apply when you're 30. 47 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,320 Yeah. Yeah. And then I'm just like, okay. But then I was going to make one. It's just 48 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,160 like, hi, I'm 29. I know I look 20. And if like, you know... 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,160 And if no one laughs. 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,160 If no one laughs. 51 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,520 And then you're going to add it off to a bad start. You're going to feel offended. You're 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,520 going to be annoyed at the crowd. You're going to get a bit of a fight. 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:48,520 And then I'm just like... 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,520 I'm just going to be like, you know what? Forget it. 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,520 You know what? You just rip off the card. 56 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:59,480 So yeah. Well, we kind of start back into the usual Club and Climb mates format. How 57 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,640 has your week been? Has it been good? 58 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:07,400 Yeah, pretty good. I mean, it's Monday today. So, you know, not much to talk about right 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,240 now. I mean, it's a big week for me. 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,240 It is a big week for you. 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,240 It's my last week in Northern Ireland. 62 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,240 How do you stay at night? 63 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,240 I think I'm desensitised. I have to remain desensitised so that things don't spiral out 64 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,240 of control. 65 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,240 Yeah, that's... 66 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,240 So we won't talk about it till the last day. 67 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:31,320 I know. It'll be like, again, we've joked. We kept on saying it's going to be like, you 68 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:37,320 know, the office. And you come to me and you're just like, yeah, let's go for lunch tomorrow 69 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,320 on my last day. 70 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,440 But I can't actually do that. Like, you know, there's protocols in place. I can't pretend 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,440 it's my last day. 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,440 There's security, okay. 73 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,440 I can't say to Alan, like, it's my last day. Surprise! 74 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:53,960 And he's like, we can't pay you. You lied to us. 75 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Yeah. You're going to jail, okay? 76 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,440 I've been in prison for a long time, kid. Forget about London. 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,440 Oh my god. You have to hear one way or another. 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,480 It's great. How's your week been going? 79 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Thanks for asking. 80 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,480 Has no one asked? 81 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,480 It's been pretty... No, it's been good. 82 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,800 It's been a grand, busy week. We're very busy in work, as you know. 83 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,800 Yeah. 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,280 So just getting a lot of handovers. It's actually really good to think about because at the 85 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:29,440 moment there is four low carbon energy sensors in this office. 86 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Yeah. 87 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:36,360 So like, about like maybe four years ago, there was one. 88 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,360 Was that Alan? 89 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,360 That was Alan. 90 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,360 Okay. 91 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,360 And then there's me. 92 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,360 And Alan's you. 93 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,360 And then there's you. 94 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,360 Yep. 95 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,360 And then Louise. 96 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,360 Louise. 97 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,360 Yeah. 98 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,360 And then... 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,360 That's it. 100 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,360 That's it. 101 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,360 We'll go back down to three. 102 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,360 It'll be a while, I think, because obviously you have to do two years. 103 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Yeah. But yeah, so I always talk to people. 104 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,840 It's great having you on, like, Hannah, you're my tea buddy. We go for tea every day. 105 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:02,120 Is that all I have, do you? 106 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,560 No, you're one of my best friends. 107 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Okay. Thank you. 108 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,560 Yeah. 109 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,360 But like, you know, we go for tea every day. 110 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,360 We do. 111 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,640 Okay. Tea or coffee. And we just chat and talk about life. 112 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,640 We do. 113 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,240 The mysteries of life. And like, it's really great because you're one of the people I talk 114 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,720 to this... talk about the podcast with. 115 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,720 Yeah. 116 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,840 One of the reasons I wanted to start it, as you know, is just to show that there's lots 117 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:34,400 of job roles in the energy field. Like, if you're ever feeling lost or, like, you know, 118 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,880 a bit overwhelmed, like, I don't know what I want to do. 119 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:37,880 Yeah. 120 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,920 Or that career doesn't seem viable. It was in the exact same boat. 121 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,680 Just remember, you can always fall back on podcasts. 122 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:46,680 Yeah. 123 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,680 Just remember. 124 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:54,000 Wow. Like, yeah, brilliant. 125 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,960 Thanks for sending it. 126 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,760 But yeah, like, you know, what is it? But like, it's career's like, I'm quickly moving 127 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,760 off before I cry. 128 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Yeah. 129 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,960 I just like wanted to... the title of Low Carbon Energy Assessor. 130 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,960 Yeah. 131 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,640 Like, it's a title that no idea existed when they first came in. 132 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,280 Yeah, I didn't know what it was either. 133 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:25,200 And yeah, it was like, you know, it's an eye opener now that you've got that qualification. 134 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,200 You're unstoppable. 135 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,240 Sure. I mean, like, it could still be stopped by CQA. 136 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,560 Okay. Yeah. You could still be stopped in general. 137 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,640 Yeah. You could be stopped in the streets at any time. 138 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:42,160 Yeah. Yeah. So I kind of want to go through, first off, to be an LCA. LCA is kind of one 139 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:49,520 of those things like chartership, like having a master's, like... I'm trying to think of 140 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,800 another comparable term. 141 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:52,800 An LCC. 142 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:59,880 An LCC. Like getting an LCC, which stands for Low Carbon Consultant. As a form of... 143 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:06,040 it gives you that qualification of energy assessment that makes you more employable 144 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,200 and more attractive to employers to... 145 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,200 Yeah. 146 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:15,440 I do hear you. But yeah, it makes you more attractive to employers if you have this qualification 147 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,440 in the energy assessment world. So kind of want to go through today's podcast and talk 148 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:29,800 about it. So, Hannah, you first got your LCA about a year and a half, two years ago. 149 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,800 No, I think... 150 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,800 I think it was 2020. 151 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,760 I think it was 20... it was 2023. And I think it was October. 152 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:37,760 Right. Okay. 153 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,280 Yeah. So pretty recent. 154 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,280 Pretty recent. Okay. Last... 155 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,280 Maybe November. Yeah. 156 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,720 I don't know when this is going to air. So it's going to be... 157 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:46,720 At some point. 158 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,720 Yeah. So... 159 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,720 I'd say a year. 160 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,720 Yeah. But a year ago. 161 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:55,000 Yeah. So you have to do, as you're aware, you have to have two years in industry experience. 162 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,080 They're very specific with that. They don't accept a master's. 163 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,560 Two years industry experience. 164 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:07,160 Yeah. So yeah, you have to have two years in industry experience. And they are specific 165 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:12,880 about that. So, you can't count your masters towards it. That is, you need to be working 166 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:20,280 actively on producing APCs, producing Google, working with like Sfm engines and your DSM 167 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:25,560 edit functions, which is your simplified building energy model and your dynamic simulation. 168 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,120 So you need to build up your CPD for that and continue your national development. Don't 169 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,360 want to throw too many jargons in there. 170 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:41,080 No, no, no. It's good. Because see, for anyone who has started as an engineer, I think they've 171 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,200 already come across these terms, especially CPD. 172 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:51,440 Yeah. So corporate-wide. So yeah, so spent the last two years doing that. So I think 173 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:58,880 when I was qualified, I'd been here about two and a half years maybe. So literally just 174 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:05,520 tried to get that ready as soon as I could. And that was fine. The CPD itself is easy 175 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:11,080 enough to build up, to collate. But obviously the application, that's when you've got to 176 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:16,920 do your exam, your software exam, and then you have to do your LCC, which is your low 177 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:23,800 carbon consultancy exam. And then obviously you have to do the application. So kind of 178 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:30,400 explaining what you would do on a daily basis, giving them a CV of your experience. And as 179 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,720 like you and Louise are level three, four and five qualified, which meant you have to 180 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:40,720 give examples on new and existing buildings at three and four and five, which is just 181 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:49,160 the level of detail that you would simulate as that. So yeah, it was a process. I wouldn't 182 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:54,520 say it was like extremely hard because it's the sort of thing we do on a daily basis anyway. 183 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Like you're doing the job, kind of you're building that experience up anyway. Now it 184 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:06,000 does mean I have a bit more responsibility, which can be a bit nerving, I find, nerving. 185 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,080 Now I can upload my own energy performance certificates for my own brew calls and that's 186 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:16,880 under my name, which you know, obviously, like I said, you can get QA'd at any time. 187 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,960 And what, like what is the process of QA? You know, I haven't been QA'd. What do you 188 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:27,040 mean? You've uploaded. I know. And I haven't been QA'd. Or was it not in? It was only in 189 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,760 England. Only in England. So I have uploaded one in Northern Ireland. Right. But again, 190 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,480 I haven't had anything back. So I haven't done it yet to do my first QA. I'll be really 191 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:43,920 nervous. See my first, my first DBC upload was by a couple years ago in Scotland. Scotland, 192 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:50,600 I remember. So it was QA'd. QA'd for anyone who doesn't know is when you are, it means 193 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,600 that's for quality assurance, doesn't it? Quality assurance. So they basically check 194 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,880 all your work. Yeah. It's pretty much the accreditation body, whoever you're accredited 195 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:06,280 with. So there's CIPC. Who else? Elmhurst. Yes, Elmhurst. They probably should have. 196 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:11,560 Does Energy Institute? I don't know. Energy Institute wouldn't. No, it's more like a 197 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:20,720 charter ship body. I'll add it out. The long pauses. What was it? Long pause, no answer. 198 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:30,160 Confessions of a shopaholic. I'm going to watch that tonight. That's a good one. So 199 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:35,520 sorry, I typed in LCA to Google. Oh yeah. And what about you? That got you a lot. You 200 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:42,520 know what came up? Local Clinical Excellence Award. I'll apply for that most of my time. 201 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:48,160 So I think CIPC are the ones who offer low carbon energy assessment. Is it just them? 202 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:53,440 Qualification. I think the other people, the other people, the other boards, if there are 203 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:58,920 any, maybe might name it differently because. Yeah, they probably do. They probably do because 204 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:05,640 it's probably like a copyright thing. Because Elmhurst named it NDA, so Non-Domestic Energy 205 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:15,760 Assessor. So yeah. The more you know. The more you know. Like, yeah, brilliant. Okay. 206 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:22,440 Well, yes. What was the most, so the application, CIPC do give a step by step guide on how to 207 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:27,480 like, grab the application. I remember going through the application and the thing that 208 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,560 was most difficult to me was the NOS units. Yeah. They are just the most tedious. And 209 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:36,640 after this, you definitely found like, because obviously you have to fill out the application 210 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,080 for your level three and four and then your five and then the same questions. So it was 211 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:46,320 quite repetitive in most of them and they're pretty stringent. Like they will come back 212 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,760 to you if they're not happy with your application. Yes. There's a couple of times, you know, 213 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:56,880 they asked for a bit more, you know, evidence, which I guess is good. You know, like they, 214 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:03,120 the QA for the process is pretty good. Yeah. It was, it wasn't, I wouldn't say it was 215 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:08,480 sort of hard, but it was, you know, you put a lot of effort into it. You definitely do. 216 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,160 It's like, I don't want to compare it to you, Nia, but it's like, you know, a great project. 217 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:17,080 Yeah. Actually, when I have got like the document somewhere over all my application, I think 218 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,840 it was close to 10,000 words. Wow. I could be saying something that's completely not 219 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:29,280 true. But like there was a lot of words, maybe 5,000. Well, it's funny because I did that 220 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:35,920 and that was a big one. I did the on construction domestic energy assessment before and it was, 221 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,240 it was weird because I feel like it was the same amount of material, but it was a different 222 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:46,080 like submission and that you had to create like, you know, oh, this is my pamphlet that 223 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,200 I was getting. Yeah. You said it's like a portfolio thing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I look 224 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:55,480 forward to that in the future. Yeah. You definitely like, I hope you don't do it online. I hope 225 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:01,880 you get to go to letter work. But you know what? It's way more expensive. Yeah. 700 pounds 226 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:08,480 and I don't know if I can say that. No, this is the thing. Like this podcast is out here 227 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:14,800 to like, you know, educate, you know, it says it on the website. Like if you go on the website, 228 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,560 yeah, like the prices are very transparent. I don't know why they touch more. I think 229 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,640 you like, when you do the in-person one, they take you to like an example, like house or 230 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:31,480 something. And they'll like talk you through an onsite survey. Right. That's the difference. 231 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:37,920 So it's a bit more proactive. Because, because Peter said to me anyway, you know what? That's 232 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:44,480 for his domestic energy assessment. Peter lied to me. See for his fee, see for the OCDA, 233 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:50,160 the own construction. Because I did my own construction domestic energy course then. 234 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:56,400 Do you know when I did it? It was before I was here. Yeah. It was before I was in college. 235 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:02,720 It was before I was born. It was many years ago. Yeah. Well, like four or five years ago 236 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:11,040 now. I did it 2019. Five years ago then. Before COVID, EC. EC before COVID. Yeah. You know, 237 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,760 you had it, you had a brew and it was just, it was a simpler time. No, it wasn't. It was 238 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:19,880 a weird time. Did you do it, was it during COVID? No. No, no, it was just before. Like 239 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:25,160 it was in the August 2019. But it was weird because you know the way like during COVID 240 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:30,000 here and you moved over to Northern Ireland during that time. Yeah. During COVID here, 241 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,920 like, you know, kind of felt, oh, like, you know, you know, it's a bit awkward. Like, 242 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,640 I don't really know where it came from. But even then I remember just feeling like a lot 243 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:45,880 of tension then just like in general, because we still didn't have a Northern Ireland executive. 244 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,360 So there's a lot of stuff that like, we don't know what's going to happen. Yeah. Like, you 245 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:55,200 know. I wasn't here during the height of COVID to be fair to you. I moved over, I think, 246 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,920 was it like the first Christmas that we had? So like during that whole summer, I was at 247 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:04,440 home. Right, okay. We moved to bring the September. Everything was lifted slightly and then we 248 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:09,640 went back into lockdown during Christmas, which was horrible because obviously the summer 249 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,200 COVID lockdown was like kind of fun. Yeah. We didn't know what was going on. The Christmas 250 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:19,360 one that was like with others before. It's cold. We can't even do anything. Yeah. Yeah. 251 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:24,360 So that was sad. But that's why I had to stay here a bit longer to really experience it. 252 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:30,440 To get to know Northern Ireland as it is. Northern Ireland. Little facility. Little 253 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:36,080 city. Nice wee time. Little bit of a city. Yeah. So yeah, that's really good. Really 254 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:41,440 good. Thank you for talking us through the process. You're more than welcome. Of course. 255 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,240 Yeah. And we've only talked about the first thing. What's the second thing? Well, second 256 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:54,400 thing was, what inspired you? Well, my card says who? Who inspired you? Yeah. Who inspired 257 00:16:54,400 --> 00:17:05,920 you? Real mum. Yeah. Joanne. She's really active on LinkedIn. Yeah. Friending everyone. 258 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:11,920 She knows we went to primary school together. Yeah. But I guess we spoke about it, didn't 259 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:18,200 we, when I sort of asked about my career progression. Because you were doing your LCEA around the 260 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,240 time that I started, do you remember? So I was kind of intrigued about what that was 261 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:29,280 and what it meant for me. So it was something I brought up in my first review. And then 262 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:35,120 obviously you have to do your low carbon consultant exam. Yeah. Before you can, you know, as part 263 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:42,600 of your low carbon energy assessor application. So I did that in my first, did that in my 264 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:49,400 second year. And so kind of just speaking to yourself and then speaking to Alan, doing 265 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:54,160 a bit of research myself. I mean, it just felt like a natural progression for my career 266 00:17:54,160 --> 00:18:00,720 because I was already doing EBCs and brookles under Alan. So I may as well do a qualification 267 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:06,560 and do it under my own name. Yeah, exactly. That's really great as well. And then look 268 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:12,960 at you now. Look at me now. Head into London with this qualification. A big city. And it's 269 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:18,280 actually amazing because like, I don't think you realize like how many people, maybe they 270 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,200 know how to create an EPC. Yeah. But they maybe actually don't have the qualification 271 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:31,400 to issue it. It was a very, I'm trying to think of the word. High opening or? High opening 272 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:37,960 confidence boosting situation maybe. I wasn't, I was very nervous to apply for jobs in London 273 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:44,120 coming from Belfast. I've never worked in London before. And honestly, you know, I was 274 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:48,320 met with a lot of opportunities and I was really fortunate when I was looking for a 275 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,680 new job. Because as you know, I'm staying in the same field. Yeah. I'm going to continue 276 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:58,600 this sort of career in a different company. And yeah, there was a lot out there for me. 277 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:03,120 And I was obviously told that that's because of my qualifications and because of how young 278 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:09,600 I am and to be qualified. So I was really lucky to become qualified in this company 279 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:16,040 because now I, it just has opened a lot more opportunities for me in London. So yeah, I 280 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,360 was surprised. I don't think there's that many people qualified as maybe I thought there 281 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:27,520 would be. Maybe just very niche. Yeah. Or you find like, what is it? Like, because you'd 282 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,320 find that like maybe one person is qualified and then everyone submits under that and then 283 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,520 everyone submits under their name or like they teach everyone and they're like, yeah, 284 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,040 you can build this up for me. And then I don't know if I'd want someone to do that for me 285 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:45,960 if I build it up. Yeah. It's you know what? You'll know by the person. Like, you know, 286 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:51,080 it's like, right? Okay, like, you know, it'd be fine. But then there's people like who 287 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:56,660 like Alan, like he would check stuff. Like he was like, okay, I'll check your K.A. He's 288 00:19:56,660 --> 00:20:01,640 pretty confident in trust. Yeah. And it's like, you shouldn't trust him. Yeah. Like, 289 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:09,960 you know, wait a second. You sure you trust me? Yeah. So I'm looking forward to it and 290 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:15,640 meeting new people in this career. Yeah. Well, that actually brings us on to our other topic. 291 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Okay. You have recently joined a committee. I have to under... A committee. You've joined 292 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:31,400 the... YEN, the Young Engineers Network, London, as the communications officer. Communications 293 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:38,880 officer. Yes. Very good. By the time... What is it? This comes out, you'll be fully fledged 294 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:49,480 in the role. So I hope you share this. I share it on the CYBC YEN. Yeah. I'm pretty excited 295 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:55,320 because obviously that'll give me an opportunity to meet people in our industry in London. 296 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:02,280 Yeah. And I think it's also nice because for example, like seeing yourself, you know, you're 297 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:07,000 pretty heavy, heavily involved in the Energy Institute. You've made a lot of contacts. 298 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,600 You've done really well for yourself in terms of networking and you know, I want to do the 299 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:22,720 same. So you've inspired me and... Start, please. I'm excited. Yeah. Excited. That's 300 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:29,320 so good. And you've already got like connections with CYBC here. I do. Max. Max McComb. Max 301 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:35,360 is the chair of the Northern Irish committee. He's lovely. It's really nice. And he kind 302 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:40,680 of pointed me in the right direction. Like she did. He did ask for his advice. So CYBC 303 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,440 just seems like the right bit. Yeah. Well, you know, like I use CYBC a lot on my day 304 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:53,400 to day life. So like the M59s, you know, CYBC guide A. Yeah. Well, you know, obviously, 305 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,960 yeah, we're members through the Low Carbon Energy Assessor. So it felt like the right 306 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:02,160 path for me. Definitely looking towards chartership at some point and then near, well, I'd say 307 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:07,200 near future. I'll give myself some time, some breathing time. That's like one of the things 308 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:13,200 I find because I literally remember just doing the LCA. And then you went straight into it, 309 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:19,080 straight into it. Not straight into chartership. But like, I remember, I think one of my reviews 310 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:24,200 just like, oh yeah, what about chartership? I was like, can I breathe? Like, can I breathe? 311 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:29,200 Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm going to go for it. Like, I'm going to give myself two years. 312 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:34,240 You know what? See what's, this is just general advice. I know we're talking about podcasts, 313 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:40,400 but general advice. What chartership applications love is like, not management experience, but 314 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:46,240 the fact that say you're teaching someone and if you're teaching someone passing on 315 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:54,240 your skills, like, it's loved. Yeah. Essentially Peter. Peter. But yes, and also I'm sure in 316 00:22:54,240 --> 00:23:00,000 your new role as well, there'll be some people that take on like, you know, the training. 317 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,160 Yeah. I mean, obviously I have no idea of the dynamic yet, but I kind of think I'm going 318 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,280 in like a middle level, which is exciting. You know, this was my first job out of uni. 319 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,240 So I have no idea really what to expect moving in as someone who's already got the experience. 320 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:22,400 So I'm excited to see what that's like. So you're part of the Young Engineers Network 321 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:29,320 for SIPSE. Yeah. I'm part of the Young Professionals Network for Energy Institute. Yeah. And Kristen 322 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:37,720 is part of the Young Members Network for IMEC. All these bodies are within the engineering 323 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:44,760 realm and you can apply to be part of them and they're a great organisation to join if 324 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,240 you would like to be chartered. They provide lots of helpful tools like what you should 325 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:56,960 do in your application, et cetera. But yeah, I can't recommend to join it enough, but I 326 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,480 love the way like, okay, just even I'm showing you the piece of paper I've written down. 327 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,780 Yeah. Like just look at them. Like they're so... What the Y in? It's only the middle 328 00:24:06,780 --> 00:24:10,640 letter that changes. That changes. I mean, they're all the same thing, aren't they? And 329 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:16,400 engineers, engineering, professionals, young people in the industry, engineering, professional 330 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:24,840 members. How have you found that your career has changed from being part of a young members 331 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,800 or the Young Professionals Committee? How has it changed? I would definitely say it's 332 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:36,320 made me a lot more aware of the different jobs than the energy industry. I kind of joined 333 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:44,400 the Energy Institute committee back in 2022. Yeah. And was on the position as secretary. 334 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:50,160 So... Yeah. So you're part of the big boy, the actual Energy Institute. The big boys. 335 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:58,040 And then with the Energy Institute, you can join, become the YPN. You're the chair? Oh 336 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,960 no. No. William would be chair. William's the chair. You are the vice chair. Is that 337 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:08,040 correct? Vice chair. We'll see. There's like an informal role. I'd say informal role. Definitely 338 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:14,120 help out as much as I can. What is it? That's what I'll say. I'll be humble about it. It's 339 00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:18,360 like, like I help out when I can. I help out when I'm needed. When I'm needed. My name 340 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:24,000 goes on. He does all the work and I put my name on it. But yeah, one of the things like 341 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:29,560 we're definitely have good things with Ulster University. Yep. And we were like... I think 342 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:36,800 there's like 11 events from the YE and every year. Yeah. No, that would make sense. I think 343 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,920 they try to do once a month. Once a month except August because apparently it's a busy 344 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:48,280 month for everyone. That's fair. That's fair. Not for me. I'll be here. I'll be here. Where 345 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,040 I am. I won't be going on holiday. Seeing it in. We should probably get back on track 346 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,120 because I feel like a lot of us are going to have to edit. Yeah. You'll have a nice 347 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:02,720 time listening to it. Yeah. That'll be good. Office banter. Office banter. Well, Hannah, 348 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,520 like you know, this podcast, the episode, it's kind of to talk about your accreditations 349 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,320 and all your accreditations you've achieved so far because it hasn't just been your LCA. 350 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,040 What else have you done? Oh, what do you mean what else have I done? Well, I'm sorry. That 351 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:23,320 sounded like a very pointed question. What else have you done? Yeah. No. Well, okay. 352 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,080 You've maybe not got qualifications, but you've learned SATs. Yes. I've learned how to do 353 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,200 the SATs and you've learned how to build U-values. U-values. Have a lot of fun building up a 354 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,480 U-value. And you've learned how to input thermal bridging. I haven't. That's not true. Thermal 355 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,560 bridging. No, no, no. Thermal bridging. Like what it actually is. Oh yeah. I mean, I guess 356 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:49,480 kind of. Because loads of people don't do that. They just use default. Yeah. Overheating. 357 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:56,560 Overheating. Yeah. Document O. Document O. Report issuing them and. Whole life carbon 358 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,800 assessments. That's a real treat. Whole life carbon. Yes. That's using. Yes. You're one 359 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,240 of the only ones in the office who knows how to do that. One of the only ones is like three 360 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:12,160 of us. Okay. And uses the one click software. Yeah. And it really gives an insight into 361 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:19,360 embodied carbon. It's a learning curve. It feels like it's simple, but it's the more 362 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:24,800 you think about it. It's not. Not simple. Okay. You know, you have to be sort of confident 363 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,640 speak to the quantity surveyors, structural engineers. You know, like we would never really 364 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,280 speak to structural engineers and then you do have to speak to them when you do your 365 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:39,080 whole life carbon assessments and your LCA's and all that jazz. So I have to really, I've 366 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,560 been really trying to build up, well, just as I've been talking to people with more confidence 367 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:48,200 in speaking about the structural parts of the building. Cause I, you know, I don't come 368 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:54,000 from structural background. So a lot of it is a massive learning curve. So I've done 369 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,280 a little bit of that. That's good. That's good. And that's the thing with how would 370 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:04,200 you compare yourself now to when you first entered the role, like public or school? I 371 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,920 knew nothing. I literally knew nothing. You know, I've never looked at like a ventilation 372 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,720 drawing. I never like, you know, I couldn't even told you what like a gas combi boiler 373 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:19,040 even was. And we had one in our house. You know what you value was, you know, learn everything 374 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:25,080 on the job. Feel a lot more confident. And you know what, when I ask you, what did you 375 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:31,000 find to be the most effective teaching method for yourself? Just vocational, I think like 376 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,960 literally on the job. Like, you know, you do have to do a lot of reading, but you will 377 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,000 only learn through making mistakes. And that probably sounds like a, you know, not a great 378 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,360 way to learn, but it's the only way. It's yeah. Cause you're like, I won't read that 379 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,760 again. Because then you know what you've done. And then, and I find as well, people can tell 380 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,240 you stuff and you know, they can come at you and tell you things. But for me, the way I 381 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,880 learn is I need to know how and why something is the way it is. So, you know, it's all well 382 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:04,160 and good saying like, I don't even know. I can't think of the top of my head, but like, 383 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:09,560 I want to know, I find if I know how something works, it tends to stick, you know? So that's 384 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:15,920 how I would learn. Okay. That's really great here. Yeah. See talking to people is the best 385 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,020 way to learn. Yeah. I think, you know, like it is a bit nerve wracking, like speaking 386 00:29:20,020 --> 00:29:25,080 to like the other parts of the design team. But it's the best way. Cause then you find 387 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,840 all these things out that you would never have found out if you'd sent them an email. 388 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,360 Yeah. You should just have a chat with them and ask them questions. You find out way more. 389 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,640 I always would prefer to have a chat with someone and send them an email and then obviously 390 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:44,320 follow up with an email. Yeah. I think before COVID, I used to, like we used to share the 391 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,560 same office as Caldwell's. Yeah. So you just like go up. I still do. Like I would much 392 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:57,080 prefer. See, I would, but that's like three stories. Yeah. I do like to go up and have 393 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,680 a chat because I think it's, I still want to stretch my legs. Um, and then I like to 394 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,680 have a chat with them. We break it to know. Then sometimes they'll be like, Oh, here, 395 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,480 what's inside? And you're like, Oh, I didn't know that. Brilliant. Okay. I'm going to take 396 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,280 that with me. And then you've built a relationship with them. They put a name to the face. But 397 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,200 yeah, no, but that's, that's great. I feel like we're given the inside scoop into what 398 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:30,360 it's like. I'm working in an office in an office. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's the 399 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:36,080 sausage rolls you make the mustard? No, they're like with bacon and chutney. I know because 400 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,760 Ryan was like, are you going to make sausage rolls for when you leave? And I was like, 401 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,600 do you think I have time to make sausage rolls before I leave? And he was like, they better 402 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,280 be from a bakery. And I'm like, ah, I don't know where they're right. Sometimes be so 403 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:54,760 cocky. And I was like, ah, you'll be lucky if I bring them in from Tesco. Yeah. I actually 404 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,080 still haven't brought in stuff from my birthday. I didn't bring anything because my birthday 405 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:04,000 was on the works too. So yeah, doing this. No, just not. I'll bring some salt bought 406 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,440 sausage rolls in. People will still eat them. I guarantee. Oh yeah. People will like, you 407 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:16,320 know, probably even faster regardless. So yeah, I'll cut them up so they're half. Can 408 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:23,880 I get a full sausage roll? You can. Brilliant. One of the things I do want to introduce to 409 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:30,440 this podcast. We were talking about it. It's the process of video cameras. Yeah. I mean, 410 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:36,240 yeah. It's like you can if you want to. I will never be on the podcast ever again. Will 411 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,400 you fly over to be in the podcast? No, we'll have to do a team school. Oh my god. Like 412 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,480 I'm a celebrity who's like far away somewhere, you know, like off season. I'm like, hey, 413 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,360 thanks for having me. It's like maybe the audience of it. I was saying hi guys. Why 414 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:56,520 why is it funny? Yeah. The cabin. Yeah. What if I fly over with my staff to do an interview 415 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,600 like with you? Yeah, you did. That would be a big commitment on your part. So sure. I 416 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,840 used to be one of those people before I was like, you know, brought down with like, not 417 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:12,360 like, you know, for a last time I was grounded. Yeah. For us last adoring with the responsibilities 418 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,600 of life. And I used to be like, oh, my flight somewhere like, you know, I've never been 419 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:25,600 like that. I was going to go like one of my flights was to go to Bucharest because of 420 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,600 the like, you know, Dracula, really big Dracula. Oh, yeah. You want to go to Transylvania? 421 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,600 Yeah. But then that was the year COVID. So it didn't happen. So fair enough. I mean, 422 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:43,040 I've never been drawn to Bucharest. Yeah. In Rome in October. Amazing. Yeah. It's going 423 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:49,360 to be like Kristen Bell's acclaimed 2006 movie When in Room. I don't think I've seen 424 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,600 that. Yeah, you really should. It's really good. I think that's her and Doc Shepard 425 00:32:53,600 --> 00:33:00,440 that. Her husband. Really? That's what they met. I'll look it up. I want to retract my 426 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:09,560 memory. 2006. It's 2010. OK, that is 14 years. Oh, don't. I remember going to see that for 427 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,280 my birthday. Oh, do you know, I went to go see them for like, I was really young and 428 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,920 like it was my first birthday with their friends and stuff. We went to the cinema to see the 429 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:24,560 Golden Compass. The Golden Compass. Oh, my goodness. That is it's weird because I know 430 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,400 it's a Nordese film. But like it's a Nordese film. It's not 2000. Wait, is Nordese mean 431 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:37,840 2000? Yeah, yeah. Nordese means like 2000 and 2010. Yeah, it was probably in that era. 432 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:47,360 Yeah. Can you tell me when the Golden Compass was made? 2005? You're so close. 2007. That 433 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:56,200 would have been nine. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God. Get out. You'd have 434 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:06,280 been 13. Oh, my God. No, I would have been 12. 2007. 1985. I'm 1998. I'm just on the 435 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:13,280 cusp. I probably would have been eight. Do you actually? No, it was my birthday. It was 436 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:20,520 probably nine. It was probably my birthday. Wow. Wow. Well, that's great. I remember like, 437 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:26,320 what is it? I was talking about the podcast at lunch. Yeah. And I was like telling the 438 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:33,880 girls, like, you know, Tanya and Dipti from upstairs. Great film modelers, by the way. 439 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:39,080 Yeah. I think it was Dipti who was like, oh, like, what's it on? And then I was kind of 440 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,360 explaining and it's like, oh, yeah, okay. It's kind of like what it's like to work in 441 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,840 this industry. If you want to. I think I know what you're going with this. It's like, if 442 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,760 you want to have a job, it's like, oh, yeah, but not this, like something more interesting. 443 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:56,760 Like, you know, it was something like, you know, something like film or like, you know, 444 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:02,520 our job. Yeah. And then like, she's kind of like, okay. I thought you were going with 445 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,480 it in the way you were like, what's it on? As in she was like, you know, what platform 446 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,120 can I watch, listen to it on? Oh, where I thought you were going with that. All right. 447 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,560 Yeah. And then you like explained the whole thing and she was like, no, why can I listen? 448 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,440 Yeah. And it's like, well, okay. It's like, you know what? I'm just not going to ask you 449 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:26,000 any questions again. Yeah. I'm going to go. Yeah. Well, well, what do you think about 450 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,600 that? Do you, is there anyone else, anything else you would like to cover? Because I feel 451 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:37,280 we've gone in detail about the plan to become an LCA, which I feel like is an important 452 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:44,800 chunk for an energy engineers progress. And also talked about joining an organization. 453 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:54,000 Yeah. And then also talked about general office. Just us, just on fuller. Yeah. I don't think 454 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,960 so. Yeah. Is there anything you want to talk about? You know, it's been a rough couple 455 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:05,840 of weeks. Actually, I do. Actually, it's a log story. How much time have you got? Yeah. 456 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,160 And you're like, you're like, forget half sick. Yeah. So I get half six. You're lucky 457 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:16,240 if you get over here at half seven. Yeah. You're lucky if you're out here before nightfall. 458 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:20,760 That's the one thing I will say that I like the nights have got brighter. Yeah. So they 459 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:28,160 have indeed. You know, I do like summer. Yeah. I do like summer. But for winter. I prefer 460 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:34,960 autumn. Oh, you're a Halloween girlie. No, aren't you? Yeah. Christmas bitch. Is that 461 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:42,080 the term? Yeah. That's it. Official term. Official term. Dictionary Christmas bitch. 462 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:51,800 Holiday boys. That's the holiday boys. Oh my goodness. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how to kind 463 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,000 of just say thank you so much. You've been absolutely amazing to have on the podcast. 464 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,840 You're welcome. And even though it's your second podcast, this definitely is not your 465 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:06,440 last podcast. Always a pleasure. Never a chore. I feel like I should give some context. I 466 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:13,760 don't know why, but I say that to every. Yeah. Every. Yeah. Someone steps in front of me. 467 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,640 Always a pleasure. Never a chore. And they're just going to look at me. It's like, can you 468 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:23,040 leave? Like, yeah, no, thank you for having me on the podcast. This will not be my last 469 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,440 one. And I think when I tag you, I'll tag your new job role as well. Yeah. We'll keep 470 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,400 it on the download for now. It's okay. Keep everyone on their seats. Yeah. We're not friends 471 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:40,160 anymore. That's sad. So sad. Hi. You're like, hi, Anya. How are you? Yeah. It's like really 472 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:45,120 like, oh yeah. I'm really good. Thanks. Yeah. I'm really good. Thanks. Oh, so good to hear 473 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:50,320 from you. The weather's been pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty good actually. And haven't 474 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,640 been up to much. It's been saving. Yeah. It's been saving, you know, working away. Work's 475 00:37:54,640 --> 00:38:01,520 busy. Yeah. Work's busy. I had a ham and cheese sandwich for lunch. Yeah. Yeah. It was really 476 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:07,520 good. No, but I want that to be like what we talk about every day. I'm like, what did 477 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,320 you have for lunch? Yeah. Every single day. Yeah. Chicken salad. Yeah. Because I feel 478 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,440 like I'll be talking to you on Instagram and then you'll be talking to Kristen on WhatsApp. 479 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,320 I will not talk to her on WhatsApp. She doesn't really use Instagram. She has to. I don't 480 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:28,440 talk to her in any other way. I've also done Instagram. She's like shaking. She's like, 481 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:36,160 hi, hi. It's like a voice. Well, sorry. Sorry. My bad. Why did you just throw your phone 482 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:44,960 at me? Anya, why have I got a black eye? You're in the office, you know, the recording. 483 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:56,280 It's like, why are you taking your pants off? You can put your pants back on. Oh my God. 484 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:02,280 Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Did you watch the office last time you were on the podcast? 485 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:07,960 Yeah, I was. I think I'd finished it a while back. Yeah. I was ready to start all over 486 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,600 again once I finished Desperate Housewives. Well, I have to say, I think people will definitely 487 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:19,920 laugh at this podcast episode as well because again, if you laugh, you can send me a £5 488 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:28,320 or PayPal. Yeah. Cross-truckle. Just to support my small business. Business is me getting 489 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:36,000 lunch in London. Yeah. So you have to send me minimum £20. Minimum £20 so I can afford 490 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:42,960 a cup of tea. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Hannah, thank you so much for being on the podcast. You're 491 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,800 welcome. Yeah. And this definitely isn't your last one. Absolutely not. I'll fly over and 492 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:56,320 get you to record your voice. This time I'll pay you. Yeah, you pay. I just want to clarify 493 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:03,280 Hannah's not getting paid. That's what she wants you to know. It's just me just like, 494 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:10,080 I guess she got paid. You guys are getting paid. You guys are getting paid. Yes. But 495 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:16,840 yeah, no thanks for coming on. You're welcome. I will see you tomorrow. I will see you after 496 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,320 the function. I'll see you. Yeah. You just leave. You're like, you put down the heavens 497 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,320 like bye. Bye. I'm like, I've got to go. I've got to catch a train. Yeah. I'm like, wait. 498 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,080 There's no trains in New England. I'll end it there. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thanks for listening 499 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:35,040 to carbon climates. If you follow us on Instagram at carbon underscore climates, you can keep 500 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:41,440 up to date with our latest news, posts or episode uploads. Yeah. Okay. Thanks for listening. 501 00:40:41,440 --> 00:41:01,760 Bye.