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Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of the Dental Student Podcast.

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The focus of this podcast is to share undergraduate and dental school experiences of dental students

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and dental professionals through valuable discussions.

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Appreciate the stories of current dentists and dental professionals, or go so be fun

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to answer the guidance for your own pre-dental journeys.

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I'm very excited to have Omi Kaksarfar, a current D2 Tufts University School of Dental

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Medicine student with me today.

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What's up man, welcome to the podcast, how's everything going?

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Well, first thanks for setting this up.

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It's pretty cool to be on here and so far so good, you know.

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I forget every year has its own challenges, but you know, D2 is heavily on the aspects

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of dentistry, different aspects of dentistry, so we're getting to learn the ins and outs

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of it and you know, with the theory portion and the hands-on portion with lab.

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So overall, it's a dream come true and definitely enjoying it.

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Sounds good.

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So why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself, like where you're from, where you

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grew up, what you like to do fun.

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Yes, so I'm born in Toronto, Canada.

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I moved from Toronto to Northern Virginia when I was about like six years old.

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So I pretty much grew up in Northern Virginia and did my undergrad there in Richmond, Virginia

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in the capital.

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But other than school, you know, I definitely enjoyed the gym, travel, stuff like that.

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I moved to Miami for my masters and Miami was a really awesome experience for a couple

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years there and now ended up in Boston.

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But so far, you know, the journey has always been, you know, as you know yourself, like

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it's very academic based, so you, your life pretty much is around school and what cities

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you go to and stuff like that.

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But it's always nice to do some extra career for stuff too.

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I wish you, I bet you wish you were still in Miami right now because I think the finals

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The weather here is, yeah, the finals too.

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Pretty awesome.

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Yeah.

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It's an awesome atmosphere down there for the games.

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But you know, it's nice.

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You have to have a life.

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You know what I mean?

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Right.

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It's a nice thing, but you only have as good to really like, you know, gym or activities

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or hanging out with friends just to reset, refresh and get back to work.

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So yeah.

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Yes.

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I'm just going to hit you with a question right now while we're at it, like the interview

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rate.

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So why dentistry?

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Why did you decide to go into this field?

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Honestly, I couldn't tell you why, like what started it, but no one in my family is like

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a dentist.

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I didn't have any influence to be in this field, but it's the only thing I ever wanted

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to do ever.

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And I don't know why, but at first it was just like a cool thing to do.

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You know, we had dentists in my mind.

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It was interesting.

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And actually my younger brother and I grew up with two other brothers in a sense.

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We went to this, you know, how some people have Sunday service.

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Well, I'm Muslim.

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So we went to the school of Islamic Supism and one of the brothers was, you know, went

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from like being on the wrestling team to all these things to all of a sudden, you know,

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a pint at dental school and out of nowhere.

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And I was like, okay, that's pretty cool.

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You know, and I was young at this, like I was, you know, sorry, high school, I think.

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So in high school, we had this class junior year.

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It was called Academy and it did different courses in the Academy class, one of them

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being dental assisting.

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So I tried out for one year, I went to dental assisting class and, you know, I loved it.

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I was so, like really involved in it.

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I used that experience to build a resume and I started assisting a pediatric office, not

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even assisting, I was a sterilization tech.

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I didn't pay like $9 an hour sterilizing tools at a pedo office during like high school,

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you know, and then going into summer.

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And I really enjoyed it and from then on, I got to another assisting job and oral surgery

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office and then a general office and then I didn't stop working at dental offices.

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And that ignited my curiosity and I felt like I found my why early.

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I found my love for this field early and it's the only thing I ever wanted to do ever since.

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So all the steps taken from that moment were pretty much geared to reaching that moment

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of getting accepted in dental school, you know, early on, you really don't know the

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difficulty, like especially in high school, you don't know that, you know, you got to

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do things, but you don't know how much energy and effort it takes.

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You don't know like how hard the biochemistry is and the biology courses are, the orgo is.

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You don't know how hard that stuff is.

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You don't know how difficult DAT is.

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And these are all challenges, you know, so, but you know, you want to be a dentist, you

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know, this is your end result and you got to buckle in and do whatever it takes to get

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So that's pretty much the story.

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That's how it started.

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And I always say go into like, you know, each step of the way later on.

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So how long would you say you've been in, you know, the dental field like working as

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a dental assistant or shadowing and stuff like that?

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Like from what age or, you know, early on was that?

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So junior year of high school, I took a dental assistant class, that academy class.

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After that year, got the resume down, built it and ever since then.

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So like a senior in high school, I've been working at offices, you know, but that's a

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short answer to your question.

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That's perfect.

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I mean, I mean, learning, knowing that you want to do it before you even start high, start

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college, that already puts you like a step ahead of everybody else in terms of, you

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know, during your application, your experiences are under read that way.

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So that's pretty awesome.

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So you know, let's go into college a little bit now.

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So you know that you want to do dentistry starting at freshman year.

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So what kind of experiences and what kind of, how'd you kind of melt, start forming application

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from freshman year?

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Like what kind of stuff did you start doing?

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What kind of classes did you know that you had to do well in and stuff like that?

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Honestly, it's, look, the requirements and everything are the same across the nation.

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All right.

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We all know what we got to do.

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There's certain class you got to take.

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You got to take this exam, this DAT and you apply.

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You know, you get your letters of recommendation, obviously, your personal statement, your

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shadowing, your, all that good stuff, but application is application and that's great.

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But look, every person is extremely different.

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Everyone has a different story, different circumstances, different backgrounds.

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And it's honestly an unfair game, but it is what it is.

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For me personally, I was very, I never really went through parties ever until I went to

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undergrad.

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I never had like the amount of exposure to people and not that I was anti-social.

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I was definitely anti-social.

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It was just, you know, my parents were more conservative and that's the kind of household

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I've been raised in.

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So there were a lot of distractions freshman year, a lot of distractions.

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And I knew I wanted to be going to dental school, but I didn't know how to manage my

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time, manage like my, I didn't know how to prioritize because I was so, I was so into

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the social aspect of college, to be honest with you, that I didn't really prioritize

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my academics.

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And I honestly was very naive to the fact that there are thousands of other students

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that are going to apply to dental school, who guess what, have four rows, have three

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nine, have three eights, have amazing DAT scores.

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And I found out, you know, I definitely, I'm a huge believer in what's meant to be and

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at the right time, you know, I switched my attention and really buckled down.

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It was definitely late.

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You know, I definitely finished undergrad with like a two seven, like bottom of the bottom

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man, like both signs and overall were in the 2.9 and 2.7.

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It was too late to change it.

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I even switched to business like junior year and then switched back to biology because

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I didn't want to track what to like delay my graduation.

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I wasn't trying to delay graduation.

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I want to finish four years and get out of there.

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So, and that's where, you know, I looked into different options and went from there.

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I mean, that's pretty interesting.

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So, you know, you were working, you were still working throughout college, right?

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Were you still working as dental assistant throughout college too?

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Or did you just kind of go on and on for?

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You know, yeah, when I went, like looking back, even though my grades weren't great,

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it wasn't like I was wasting my time to be honest with you.

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I was in offices every summer.

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Right.

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And not only that, but every summer I got a better opportunity with more responsibilities.

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At the end of the whole dental assisting like career that I had, it got to a point where

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prior to me even coming into Tufts, I landed like two big jobs.

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One was like being a marketing manager for a brand new office, setting up their whole

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marketing system.

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And the other one was a great opportunity to work in a lab.

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You know?

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So, every summer since 18 years old, I've been in offices, getting that patient interaction,

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getting that touch, that feel for different procedures.

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I was working in Pito heavily doing profis, scalings, taking bite wings, taking panos.

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You know, it's not my first exposure to mouths like coming to dental schools.

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It's not my first time working in the mouth.

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So you know, when clinic's coming up in less than a month now, I've already sort of broken

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that ice, you know what I mean?

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And there's so many things that we don't know as pre-dents.

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There's so many things.

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Like once you're across the line, there's so many things you don't, you realize you

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don't know.

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And my largest piece of advice, to be honest, is get exposed to offices as much as possible.

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You know, make your rounds and go learn.

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Be curious.

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Because one, when you're working from like 7 a.m. when the office opens to 7 p.m., long

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days, nonstop patients, you get home and you ask yourself, like, is this really for me?

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Like, do I want to spend these long days and like give it my all every single day for the

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rest of my life within this career?

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You know what I mean, Brett?

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So getting like shadowing and also you develop some crazy awesome mentors.

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We're talking about like, if you're working for a multi-million dollar practice, you know,

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there's a leader behind that and you become close to that person.

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You work for that person and you start learning and getting advice from that person.

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And that person ends up being your mentor and you keep those connections.

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So it's not just building relationships, write my letter of recommendation and buy.

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Like no, that's not a relationship.

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You got to develop some great relationships who also let you write your letters of rec

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with application process, but help you along the way too, you know?

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So I can't stress enough, like working prior to coming to school is awesome.

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It's like one of the best investments one can make, to be honest.

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Because ultimately, if you think about it, man, grades are great, of course.

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But any dentist is like they're known, their reputation is built off of the work that they

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do after clinic.

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And I've met with like some of the, we have some of the great really good instructors

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here for the business aspects of things.

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And they tell me all the time, like your business can be amazing, your foundation, everything

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can be set, but if you don't back it up clinically, doesn't mean anything.

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Of course.

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You know what I mean?

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So it's highly important.

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And I think that you bring up a really good point about the eight or the seven to seven

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thing, right?

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So I mean, I work in an office and we have eight to seven days, so like 11 hour days,

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four days a week.

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And like, you don't know how dedicated you are to the field until you hit like five,

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six o'clock.

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You're like, damn, it's been a long day.

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And then you see all these patients go by, you're just like, when like the really big

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extraction procedure that was at like nine a.m. becomes like a blur to you.

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That's like when you got to just think about like, damn, I'm really in this.

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And like that's where you start to like test your love for dentistry.

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That's how, like if you're, if we're one of those people that like can, can get to five

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o'clock, but you just start kind of burning out and you just don't like want to be there

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anymore.

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That's like when you got to reevaluate these things.

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Cause you got to have like, you got, yeah, you're, look, the whole like saying, you know,

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saying about love what you do.

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Honestly, this is not like people don't, I feel like, oh, love what you do, love what

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you do.

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But like everyone says, love what you do.

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But when things get tough, when things get like days are long, assignments are projects

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are difficult, you're failing, you're not, you know, doing what you like producing what

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you want to produce.

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You're not accomplishing things the way you thought you wanted to like get them done.

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You're being tested every single day.

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Your patience is being tested.

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Everything is being tested.

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And to get up every single day and keep that level of enthusiasm, enthusiasm to learn not

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being tired, not, you know, go into like rotation or all these classes that we have in coming

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out early or not wanting to be here.

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I think people quickly forget once they're accepted to school that once upon a time you

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were praying to be here, you really wanted it badly.

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And now that you're here, you've sort of lost the word of what it means to be here.

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Because you're very privileged to be here and you're very lucky, not lucky, but like

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you're in a great position that a lot of people wish they were in.

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You know what I mean?

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Thousands of people.

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Thousands.

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Thousands of people a year are applying to be in these schools and we're the lucky few

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to make it.

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Of course.

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You know what I mean?

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Ultimately, even past all this, and this is like very important that I think people got

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to think about.

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It's when you have a love for something, like how come you don't get, you know, named

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it like something you love to do.

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I'd say like video games.

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How can we just sit there for hours with full enthusiasm and literally like play Xbox or

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PlayStation or whatever that, you know, people are playing.

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How come we can do that?

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But you are tired when you do something you're setting your life to like your whole dedication

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or your life to something, right?

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It's the same mentality.

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Like you got to be in something that you really enjoy.

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Don't get tired doing because that curiosity, that energy will make you the best at what

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you do.

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It's that love.

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It's that drive that gets that you wake up every single day, give it your all and become

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better and better each and every day.

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And I honestly love what I'm doing.

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I really, really do.

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I will do this for free.

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And I'm not just really would do what I do for free.

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When D1s come in, I love giving them my time if they need it or projects regarding like

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operative or hands on.

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I mean, I'm so happy that I took the time to really see if this was for me because I've

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been in offices for so long and day in and day out seeing patients, difficult cases.

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And as a dentist, you don't have time to have a dull moment.

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You're dealing with like human beings.

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You're dealing with cases.

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I mean, one little slip of a hand, that's unacceptable.

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You can't have that stuff.

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So these are all things that one needs to take in consideration, but as a pre-dent,

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you're so stuck with the requirements and the grades that you forget.

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You forget like the magnitude of how much the other things really weigh.

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Right.

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100%.

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You know what I'm saying?

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So everyone's smart here, they didn't get here because everyone's smart.

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Everyone is manageable to have their grades, but very few have the skills to be like where

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they need to be.

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And it's crazy.

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The one field, like this is a career with all hand skills, right?

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It's heavily on the hands, on the eye for detail, on the diagnosis, but it all comes

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together as an art.

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There's so many balls to play with.

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Like you're juggling a lot of different things, but in the application process, they never

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once test you on your skills with your hands.

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Never.

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So people find out how they really are when they enter school.

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And guess what?

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It's a little bit too late because you're already 150,000 in the hole or $100,000 in

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the hole and you can't really go back at this point.

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Yeah.

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And it's extremely discouraging.

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So take the time.

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Take the time to find out if this is really for you.

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Right.

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I think the biggest thing that I have in application, I just finished the application a couple days

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ago, I submitted everything, whatever.

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Congratulations, that's big.

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I know.

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It feels weird because I feel like more have to go back and add something else or double

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check it again, but that's just a part of the process, I guess.

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And they just have the one question, like what are your mail, like what email, the mail

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to XRD question they have.

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That's kind of like the only thing that they use or that they have about you about your

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hands skills, I feel like.

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In my opinion, it's very unfortunate that there is no physical testing center or something

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that test is a student's hand skills to come in because it is, well, it's, there's nothing

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like it.

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You can replicate a student picking up a hand piece and drilling and creating beautiful

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work.

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Yeah.

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And there's so much that goes behind dentistry that as an assistant, you'll never understand

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because you're not knowledgeable enough.

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You don't know what to look for.

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You don't have a mentor or a teacher that's spending time and teach you things.

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You know what I mean?

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You're there as an assistant or you're literally like standing in the corner and shadowing.

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Yeah.

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And because of COVID, they cut down those shadowing hours too for obvious reasons.

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So this is a huge part of everything.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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And in every class, whether it's like 200 kids like us or 60 kids, I mean, that's still,

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there's a lot of people.

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So that's, I mean, the downside of the application, I believe, but ultimately, again, it goes

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back to why it's important to get exposed early on.

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Yeah.

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What do I mean?

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And that's actually very important to get into arts and crafts or things that test your

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hand skills and your eye for detail.

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And I mean, that's very, very important because subconsciously you have these skills that

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start coming to the surface when you start working on like your operative one class or

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operative two and so on and so forth.

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Right.

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I mean, I wish the DAT, I mean, they did the PhD section, but I feel like it's not.

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It's nothing.

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It's nothing compared to like what?

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Nothing.

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An actual dental student.

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Because I mean, when I was studying, I would sit there like I'm DT Bukin, but just look

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at the, like what I'm doing and just step back for a second.

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I'm like, what exactly is counting cubes on all these sides going to do for me in the

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future exactly?

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Like I'm not really physically using like indirect vision or something like that on

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a test, right?

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So 100% like, so we, yeah, we did indirect vision.

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It's you're right.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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100%.

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So when you're doing a test like that, when you really just started studying and stuff,

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you're just kind of stepping and you're like, what is, I feel like I'm just checking off

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a box for them.

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You know what I mean?

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Just so you can, just so they can compare me to other people and make a decision that

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way.

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But like we said, a lot of people apply and these are different ways that they filter

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out people.

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Yeah.

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This is like, how many, I know so many friends of mine who even an undergrad quit pre dental

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because of organic chemistry one or organic chemistry two or the DAT they couldn't pass

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or whatever, you know, these are just ways to filter out people.

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I mean, that's why they're in place.

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You know what I mean?

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And it's a test to obviously test your knowledge for basic sciences, but ultimately not, you

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know, not everyone can.

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So I mean, so yeah, so I mean, let's talk a little bit about how you can tackle all

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these things.

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So, you know, so can you give us a little like a timeline of, you know, one took the DAT

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and then when you kind of went about getting letters of rec, for example, personal statement,

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or did you kind of place all these important things to get into school during undergrad?

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Yeah.

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So let's run it back.

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Honestly, like when I even started making content, I did it because I was Googling,

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I'm sorry, I was YouTubing, trying to find people who were in the same spot as I was.

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All right.

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2729 low GPA undergrad, is still possible.

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Honestly, basic question.

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Is it possible?

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Zero, like things out there.

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People were just talking about like 24, 26, 22, like, all right, cool.

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Not relatable.

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I graduated 2017 from undergrad.

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All right.

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Like I said, I had a really low GPA low again, 29, 2.7.

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In 2017, like I'm very hard headed and very like optimistic.

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So I was like, it's fine.

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I'll counteract it with my DAT.

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So apply with a low GPA.

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I have a great resume.

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I have good letters of recommendations.

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I have assisting hours.

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Everything else is like great, except for the grade.

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So it was like May of 2017.

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Like I took, later on that summer of July, I took my DAT.

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I got a 16 on it.

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Right.

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PAT, I did like great.

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It was like 24.

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Took it again, PAT 26, sciences 16.

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So then I was like, all right, I gotta literally have one more shot at the DAT.

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Not one, but you can take it more than three times.

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Honestly, if you request, you can.

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But you know, three times already took it twice.

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What do I do?

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I felt like I wasn't going anywhere.

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Okay.

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At this point in my life, I was very, I was still working, but I was very focused on the

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exam and what I needed to do.

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I had a 30 schools, by the way.

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Like I graduated, applied to 30 schools without the DAT, with the grades I got from undergrad.

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Very optimistic.

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Took the DAT, did awful.

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So like got zero acceptances.

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Took the DAT again, 16.

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All right.

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Now what do I do?

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Through like some talking, I found out about, and that was also like a very hard time in

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my life, man.

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Honestly, like this is the only thing I've ever wanted to do.

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And it's not happening.

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You know what I mean?

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And it's very discouraging.

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And it wasn't like really a, it was very hard time for me, but you know what?

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So what?

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You got to find a different like option.

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I always believe if like one door is not opening, let's try another one.

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Right?

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Let's keep knocking.

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So I found out Barry's Biomedical Masters program.

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And this is where I started like sharing my story and sharing, you know, like when I watch

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content, I want someone to tell me what the situation is and what's the answer.

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Yeah.

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And I was just taught like what do I have to do?

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So Biomedical Masters program, okay, bet.

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Like there was other things like these other programs around my hometown, like I, you know,

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Georgetown or GW, but they were a Masters programs.

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And Barry, their reputation, like their stats were legit.

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Like 60 kids a year were going to dental schools from the same backgrounds as I was.

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So I applied.

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I'm so sure I applied.

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I don't wait list it because my grades were so low.

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And I just called.

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I called and called and they were like, listen, literally she calls me.

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She's like, Oh, me, do we have your application?

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We'll let you know by like this date.

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If you get accepted, we know you're interested, whatever.

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I was like, okay.

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You know, God willing, I got in.

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I was the last like I got in and I completely was even I was going to Miami, you know, the

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league could be very distracting, but I was locked in bro.

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I was like, this is the last opportunity.

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If I don't get through this, we're not going to, you know, it's not good.

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So got all A's kept on pushing, got the A after A after A.

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And I'm not saying that to like, you know, brag about it.

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I'm saying that because you, I, it's possible.

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Like whoever watches this who's in the situation, if you really switch your mind and prioritize

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and well, I'm in Northern Virginia.

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And that was the first time like when I literally put my clothes in my car with my dog and I

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drove to Florida with no apartment.

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School started in a week and a half.

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And it was the first time where I started, I actually cried leaving because I've never

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taken such a risk in my life this big going to a school where I don't know if I'm going

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to get in because nothing's guaranteed.

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Nothing is guaranteed.

478
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,920
I had nowhere to live.

479
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,400
I figured everything out, but it was a huge move.

480
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,000
You know, it wasn't like easy.

481
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,280
Yeah.

482
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,720
But even more like that pressure, I love pressure.

483
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,600
I'll take pressure any day.

484
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,400
Like I love it because I thrive in it.

485
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:25,040
And when you're backs against the wall, you either got to make it or you just break.

486
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,120
And I'm not here to like break.

487
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:36,840
So I got the grades locked in, got everything, put the DAT again in like 20, I think 19.

488
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:45,520
And my third DAT attempt from a 15 went to a 16.

489
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,520
Well, devastating.

490
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,600
It was like the tried boot camp.

491
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,960
I tried like different programs and the program I took was actually very good.

492
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,360
Like it wasn't very helpful.

493
00:26:55,360 --> 00:27:01,880
It was just, it wasn't my favorite, you know, but because my GPA and my master's program

494
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,840
was so high, the admissions committee, especially here at Tufts, because they, a lot of it,

495
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,400
and people should know this, like I bury people, admissions directors come to the school in

496
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,560
person and you have meetings with them.

497
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,760
So you actually get to know the person from the beginning and they get to grow with you

498
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,760
in a sense.

499
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,760
You keep them updated.

500
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,760
They really care.

501
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,760
You know what I mean?

502
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:29,560
And the director here, Dr. Casper, you know, and he really believed in like, in me, he

503
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,720
really believed in my potential and last thing he told me was, oh, me, you're going to get

504
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,720
this interview.

505
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,720
Just, just don't let us down.

506
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,720
Don't let me down.

507
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,280
And I was like, you got it.

508
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,840
I got the interview, got accepted.

509
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,120
And it was like a full circle moment.

510
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:49,640
Well, like doing the white coat ceremony came up, talked to my parents and, you know, I

511
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,880
try to represent myself and my school the best way I can, you know what I mean?

512
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:03,000
And, but overall, it was a very long process, a lot of obstacles.

513
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,200
But like we were talking about earlier, you're going to be tested.

514
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,640
Either you're going to go through and figure this stuff out or you're going to be like,

515
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,160
this is too much for me and this is not my path, which is completely fine.

516
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,160
Right.

517
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,160
That's 100% fine.

518
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,440
But I just believe if you want to really be the best at anything in this world, not my

519
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,040
mom always has, like, has told me nothing in life is ever easy.

520
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,040
Nothing great in this world will come easy.

521
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,320
And I really want to make an impact in my field.

522
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,320
I really want to be the best at what I do.

523
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:42,560
And that like mentality, you know, of always, of not being good enough, like academically

524
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,080
and also working hard and always, you know, wanting to push to the next level because

525
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,480
of my curiosity and my drive.

526
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,440
I really think that's in everyone.

527
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,200
That's 100% every human being and everyone is capable.

528
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,800
It's just we limit ourselves and we're scared or fearful.

529
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,080
So you name it, man.

530
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,480
I've experienced it with this path, at least with coming into like school.

531
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,840
And now, I mean, God's so great, man.

532
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,800
Like I'm at the one of the most competitive schools, one of the best clinical schools

533
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,080
in the country.

534
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,080
Like hands down.

535
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:24,640
So that's the whole gist in the beginning to at least right now.

536
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,640
That is insane.

537
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,960
I mean, like, just driving, like you don't know where you're going to live down there

538
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,360
and you just kind of just taking it as it goes.

539
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,520
Just to get into dental school.

540
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:44,400
Which is just, I mean, it'd be one thing if it's like, like, if you're a dentist already

541
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,400
and you know where you're going to go, but like, you're just walking off a cliff right

542
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,840
now basically with your dog.

543
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,800
Oh, 100% was a blind fate.

544
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,920
I'm a huge man of faith, man.

545
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,840
I think like whatever's meant to be will be.

546
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,440
But you also got to work for it.

547
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,680
You can't just pray to God, like, God, give me this, give me that, or...

548
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,880
You got to work for it, you know?

549
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:08,440
And now in dental school, that mentality, because you've been through so many hurdles...

550
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,440
Continues, with you.

551
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,000
100% it continues.

552
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,360
Like, nothing phases me.

553
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,920
Nothing is hard.

554
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,720
Nothing ever is hard.

555
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,680
You're just not good enough.

556
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,680
So get good.

557
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,080
You know what I mean?

558
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,640
Honestly, we're not at that level.

559
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:32,600
Every in dental school, every week, if not every day, we're learning something new.

560
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,640
No exaggeration.

561
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,640
And guess what?

562
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,280
In the beginning, you're like, like, right now I left lab.

563
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,640
I was extremely frustrated because I didn't get like the result of what I wanted on this

564
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,400
project and I want to accomplish.

565
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,360
But it's okay because I've had that feeling before and we're going to figure it out.

566
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,520
You know what I mean?

567
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,000
So you got to keep pushing.

568
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,560
And personally, I could either settle for average work, average pre-clinical work, but

569
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,560
I'm not average.

570
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,560
I don't want to do that.

571
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,560
You know what I mean?

572
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

573
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,880
So that's how we got to think, you know?

574
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,880
That's like what dental school is like.

575
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,400
They want something that's not going to break.

576
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,400
You know what I mean?

577
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,720
They want something that's gone through things and they've been able to overcome them.

578
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,200
When you see something that, I guess in your case, when you see them that's probably been

579
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,800
harder than doing a practical or something, then you know that you can do it.

580
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,040
Like, what do you experience it like that?

581
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:31,160
Yeah, I mean, I'm just happy that, like I said, like Dr. Casper at the time, I'm just

582
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,160
happy one.

583
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,600
He told my parents all it took was one person.

584
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,400
And I told him straight out, if it wasn't because of you, I wouldn't even be here.

585
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:46,240
So it just took one person to bring me in.

586
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,240
And that's like with anyone.

587
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:53,800
It takes one opportunity, one person, one acceptance between like you accomplishing this and you

588
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,800
not.

589
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,800
And that all has to do with, well, I've never rejected it from multiple schools many years

590
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,800
in a row.

591
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:00,800
Yeah.

592
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,920
So when someone calls me, it's like, oh, I've been like, you know, they accepted this cycle.

593
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,920
Like, so what?

594
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,160
Honestly, like, the next cycle.

595
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,760
You know what I mean?

596
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,560
Like, I'll say like, but like getting, you know, hopefully I get in, but you know, in

597
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,400
the case, I think I would see it as like an opportunity even to get even better because

598
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,360
you have another whole year to just keep going.

599
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,040
Bro, how much do you want?

600
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,480
If you don't want it, really don't want it.

601
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,480
You'll stop.

602
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,480
You'll just do something else.

603
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,480
You can do something else.

604
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,160
But in like, you took the DAT like what this three times total or four times?

605
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,920
I've been in school all together for 10 years when I graduated with 10 years.

606
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:39,920
And you're as crazy.

607
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,200
Like, I didn't see three times about to be a fourth.

608
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,880
I signed up, but I signed up and they accepted me a month before I was about to take it.

609
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,400
I was, I was not playing.

610
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:55,440
I spent thousands of dollars on DAT material, thousands of dollars on the exam itself, thousands

611
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,840
of dollars for the master's program, all to like, it's not cheap.

612
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,160
It's not cheap, but you know what?

613
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,600
Like you got to figure out a way and you got to be completely committed.

614
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,280
You got to be like your life.

615
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,200
Those parties, your friends are not like understanding what you're about.

616
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,480
You only know what you're about and you got to do what's best for you.

617
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,280
So we're talking about like very mature things at a young age.

618
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:22,560
So it's very difficult to, you know, and don't tell me age is a factor because it's not our

619
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:30,000
class to average age in Tufts is 24 to 26 years old, like more than 26 side.

620
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,960
So you just have to keep on pushing and keep on doing it.

621
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,960
You know what I mean?

622
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,960
Yeah.

623
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,640
And like those are the people, the people that are like reaching 26, those people that

624
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,720
have more, they've seen more, more stuff in their life.

625
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,960
And those are the people who are more, they're battle tested.

626
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,960
They're seasoned, you know, they're seasoned and they're mature.

627
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,360
They know what they want.

628
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,360
Yeah.

629
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,480
Oh, we've had like, we have women that have, you know, gave birth in our class.

630
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,560
We have family, like people who have families.

631
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,440
We have people in their 40s.

632
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,440
Right.

633
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:08,920
Like there is no excuse if you really love it, you're going to get it.

634
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120
And it's just a matter of the right time.

635
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,880
That's why even in dental school in life, never compare, never look at your next door

636
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,760
neighbor because it doesn't matter.

637
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:23,280
Their life is completely separate and their path is completely separate than yours.

638
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,160
We're destined for something completely different than they are.

639
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,160
Right.

640
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,160
And that's something super like in the pre dental community, bro, like comparison is

641
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,640
the first step towards, I'm sorry, it's, it's stupid devastation.

642
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Yeah.

643
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,920
It's completely stupid to ever combine your grades with anyone to compare your grades,

644
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,360
thinking you're better or worse.

645
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,840
It's the most idiotic thing ever.

646
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,840
Cause guess what?

647
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Now looking back, I don't even, who cares about, I don't even remember these conversations

648
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,080
anymore.

649
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,080
Like who cares?

650
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,080
Yeah.

651
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,080
You know what I mean?

652
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Nothing matters.

653
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,840
You're so busy and doing your own thing and building your own life and career.

654
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,840
This matters.

655
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,840
Yeah.

656
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:06,240
It doesn't, but guess why at that stage, you're so caught up in it, you think it does, right?

657
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:10,400
So it's important to have a clear mindset and the right mentors and the right people

658
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,400
around you, honestly.

659
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,040
And sometimes that requires to let go of people that you have been with in order to make room

660
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,040
for new ones.

661
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,400
You get you to where you need to be for sure.

662
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,400
You know what I mean?

663
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,680
I mean, all it takes is once.

664
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,840
So I mean, even in my case, like I had, you know, one doctor, we resale our social media

665
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:35,000
actually, and I still work at his practices this day, like just him dude on Long Island.

666
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,760
So it's just like, I mean, I could have reached out to, but the fact that he had a social

667
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,800
media account and then I reached out to him and he reached out back and then we just kind

668
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,360
of went back and forth and now I'm working as practice.

669
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,520
It's just, and then now I'm meeting all the other doctors that were there.

670
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,960
It's just like a domino effect from one person.

671
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:54,920
Well, like these relationships, whoever's watching this as well, who goes to offices

672
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:02,880
and shadows and stuff, keep the relationships open, keep in touch, because you never know

673
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,320
what can happen later on.

674
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,240
You never know why you met that person and what it can bring later on the future.

675
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:14,320
So I think the skill of, is a huge maturity as well, like keeping relationships open,

676
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:20,080
you know, with individuals that have impacted and helped you along the way, like your mentors

677
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,120
and different job opportunities that you're talking about.

678
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,840
You never know, you graduate, guess what, you might want to work in a place that you

679
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,760
already are familiar with, that is a great mentor, can teach you and excel you in your

680
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,760
skills.

681
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,280
So you know what I mean?

682
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,280
That's important.

683
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:40,320
And I mean, like, I guess the thing is that you never know who somebody knows.

684
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,320
So like, you know, you never want to burn bridges when you're leaving somewhere.

685
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,960
Also, you don't want to, you know, if you're shadowing as a pre-dental, they know that

686
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,320
you're there to get ours at some point, right?

687
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,320
They know that.

688
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,400
Yeah, like, listen, these guys are not dumb.

689
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,400
No.

690
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,400
They're not dumb.

691
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,160
And they can tell someone, they can tell a difference between a student who really is

692
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,800
about this craft and someone who's just trying to fill up some hours.

693
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,440
100%.

694
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:15,000
And they will know who to give their energy and really give you like deeper information

695
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,960
because, you know, a master never gives all the secrets away.

696
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:26,440
They'll give you some things, but you got to create your own, you know, art.

697
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,400
And make it into the tools, but they won't tell you how to use them properly because

698
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,040
that takes years of mastery.

699
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:37,040
But if you got a really passionate person, a kid who really wants it, that's so evident.

700
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,160
It shows that they're here for more than a paycheck, more just like the application

701
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:46,080
purposes are here because they really are interested in this art and this field.

702
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,320
And that's completely different.

703
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,480
You know, those are the kids that will come back after they've applied to dental school,

704
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,240
after they've done all these things like those are the kids that really want.

705
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:57,240
100%.

706
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:59,480
And during dental school, guess who you need advice?

707
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,080
You call, you make a phone call right off the bat.

708
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,080
They'll be there for you.

709
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,080
You know, that's amazing.

710
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,720
Not a lot of people have that.

711
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:07,040
You know what I mean?

712
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:13,120
And overall, I think that you really need to build an internal self-confidence in who

713
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,200
you are.

714
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,680
And you got to stay true to that because, and you shouldn't change that when you come to

715
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,680
dental school.

716
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,720
You understand what I'm saying?

717
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:28,920
When you come to who you are and your heart and your principles and don't get affected

718
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,040
by everyone else's energies and what they're doing.

719
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,040
You know what I mean?

720
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,320
Because you're not going to be friends with everyone in the family.

721
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,320
It's impossible.

722
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,320
Yeah.

723
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,520
You see what I'm saying?

724
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,200
But you stay true to who you are and what you're about.

725
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,600
And that because that's what got you here and that's what people love about you.

726
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,600
Don't be apologetic.

727
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,600
Do the right thing.

728
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,200
Bring that energy every day.

729
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,400
Don't be apologetic and be true to who you are.

730
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,440
And that will get you really, really far here.

731
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,120
No, for sure.

732
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:02,600
But I guess the biggest hurdle for the pre-dental now is that because like the DAT preparation

733
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,720
stuff is getting so advanced, like the scores are going up, the GPAs are going up.

734
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:08,720
Right.

735
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:15,320
I think for this cycle, I've been looking at the averages now, they're like 21s or maybe

736
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,040
last for last class, but like 20, 21s, maybe 22s for some schools.

737
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,440
I know like Harvard would be like 24.

738
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,400
Columbia is like 24.

739
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,880
So everyone is kind of feeling some more pressure to do better and to like get over this.

740
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,160
Because I think before the general consensus was like, okay, the average is like an 18

741
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,160
and 19.

742
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,160
So I think that's there, but like everything's going up and everyone's actually getting

743
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,480
more clinical experience.

744
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,120
People are assisting a lot more.

745
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,960
People are shouting a lot more.

746
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:52,960
So the biggest thing for pre-dentals right now is to not get sucked in to be like thinking

747
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,720
that they're like everybody else.

748
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:58,080
I guess like staying in true to themselves.

749
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,440
I think people are now trying to check more boxes off because they think that's going

750
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,640
to separate them more.

751
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,280
I don't know what you see, but that's kind of what I've been saying lately.

752
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,280
And I'm not sure.

753
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:14,640
In a couple of years, I might even be even more crazy at the competition and all that.

754
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,480
Honestly, that's insane.

755
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,440
It's getting...

756
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:26,440
I'd be a key score to shoot that high is a lot of pressure.

757
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,040
It's crazy.

758
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,040
That's a lot of...

759
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,760
You know, it's funny.

760
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,160
And no disrespect to any...

761
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,160
I don't know.

762
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,720
I feel like I would never...

763
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,840
Even for...

764
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,760
I would never say something that I haven't been through.

765
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,760
And I would...

766
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,760
Because I don't like to do that.

767
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,440
I want to talk about things that I have in walk to walk.

768
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,440
You know what I mean?

769
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,960
Yeah, of course.

770
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,400
Even with my work on Instagram that I post and the operas or just the hands-on stuff

771
00:40:53,400 --> 00:41:00,560
I do, I never post it without getting it run through the professors.

772
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,560
You know what I mean?

773
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,560
So, it's just...

774
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,600
That's why I post the grade on it too is just to show like...

775
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,800
I don't think it's just whatever.

776
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,800
You know what?

777
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,800
It's acceptable.

778
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,300
But...

779
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:21,040
I think that's the beauty of the masters is because you take yourself away from this

780
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:26,120
ocean of applicants and you're more into like a pond.

781
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,080
A pond that has a lot more attention.

782
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,280
You know what I mean?

783
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,000
That people from these schools are coming to get to know you a bit more than just an

784
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,680
application on paper.

785
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:46,360
Like personally, just by my grades, I wouldn't have been here.

786
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,200
It took someone to get to know me and know my...

787
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,080
I did obviously there were grades as well.

788
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:58,600
But there was a relationship there with the backing up of my grades and my application.

789
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,040
And I mean, I'm doing great here.

790
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,040
Yeah.

791
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,040
You're honestly...

792
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,040
Like you're honestly...

793
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,040
It's doing great.

794
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,160
I love where I am.

795
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,400
And so, you can't get cut up with the grades.

796
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,400
The grades are there.

797
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,840
The test scores need to be there for a certain reason because a lot of people are trying to

798
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,560
go to dental school nowadays a lot.

799
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,560
They don't want...

800
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,720
They don't like the med life.

801
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,400
They don't want to work those long hours.

802
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,640
They want to have a life outside of the profession.

803
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:32,120
And dentistry is one of the most appealing medical professions in the world.

804
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,120
You know what I mean?

805
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,760
And it's definitely honorable to be in this profession.

806
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,760
It's dope.

807
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,760
It's awesome.

808
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:44,400
And by regarding the exam scores, if you got it, great.

809
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,280
If you can get it, that's awesome.

810
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,640
But more than that, it's important to know the things that we're talking about.

811
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,640
You know what I mean?

812
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:58,000
You can't get lost with just checking off boxes and filling out requirements.

813
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,000
You're not a robot.

814
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:05,160
If you're a human being that adds a style to everything they do, you have your own personal

815
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,480
touch and you definitely need to understand that.

816
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:15,200
And I think more than anything, that why that motor that runs you, that drive needs to be

817
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,360
there because if it's not, you're going to quit when things get hard, when you don't

818
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,720
get the exam scores you thought you would get.

819
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:24,040
And guess what?

820
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,240
These numbers don't define who you are.

821
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:28,480
I guarantee you that.

822
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:34,920
And never let a grade define who you are as a person.

823
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:40,200
Unfortunately, coming up as a kid, all we do are study hard for exam.

824
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,720
If we get an A, we're happy.

825
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:45,240
If we get an F, we're destroyed.

826
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:51,920
That's how weak we've become to let a grade dictate our emotions.

827
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,080
For more than that, you know what I mean?

828
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,360
And also, I think a huge piece of advice or insight, whatever you want to call it, to

829
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:05,000
pre-dense, they got to understand the name of the school.

830
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,520
Doesn't matter.

831
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:12,720
You got to look at the clinical experience that that school gives.

832
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:17,120
You got to understand how great of professors they have there.

833
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,080
And obviously, you don't know the behind the scenes.

834
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:24,000
There's an extent to information you know, but look at the graduation rates.

835
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:30,960
Look how many people from the school, from the undergrad, let the dental school get jobs.

836
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,000
What are the salaries looking like?

837
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,800
What's the demographics they're working for?

838
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:40,160
Because a lot of these schools, and I could name a bunch off the top of my head that undergrads

839
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:47,520
would think are prestigious, they're heavily based in students who want to do specialty.

840
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,040
So guess what?

841
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,220
When you're in specializing, all you're worried about even in the other schools are grades,

842
00:44:53,220 --> 00:44:56,120
so guess where you're spending less time in?

843
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,580
In a clinic.

844
00:44:57,580 --> 00:45:00,620
You're spending less time in your hand skills.

845
00:45:00,620 --> 00:45:02,320
You're spending less time in pre-clinics.

846
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,860
You're spending less time in clinic.

847
00:45:03,860 --> 00:45:07,180
You're worried about the OMFS exam, you're worried about applications again, you're

848
00:45:07,180 --> 00:45:10,200
worried about getting high grades, high grades, high grades.

849
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,400
You're not investing in your hand skills, you're not investing in your diagnostic skills,

850
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,960
your eye for detail.

851
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,180
You're not getting the exposure you need.

852
00:45:17,180 --> 00:45:20,940
to be ready to work in the real world.

853
00:45:21,940 --> 00:45:25,180
And never come into school set that she wanna specialize.

854
00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:26,020
Don't do that.

855
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:30,260
Cause you don't know how hard the classes aren't yet here.

856
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:32,800
And you don't even know anything about OMAFAS.

857
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,400
I don't care if you've told me you've worked

858
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,300
for an assistant OMAFAS, there's always those people.

859
00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:39,420
I worked at OMAFAS, my dad's more of a,

860
00:45:39,420 --> 00:45:41,020
this is like, so what?

861
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:43,220
That's not you.

862
00:45:43,220 --> 00:45:44,060
Yeah.

863
00:45:44,060 --> 00:45:44,900
That's not you.

864
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:47,180
You stand academically in dental school.

865
00:45:47,180 --> 00:45:48,940
You don't know where you stand with your hands.

866
00:45:48,940 --> 00:45:51,100
So you don't even know maybe if you would love

867
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:52,900
to discover another specialty.

868
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:53,740
Yeah.

869
00:45:53,740 --> 00:45:55,780
You might find you love something else in dentistry.

870
00:45:55,780 --> 00:45:56,620
Right.

871
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:03,360
So setting expectations is a worst thing possible.

872
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:07,640
Expectations and standards are different.

873
00:46:08,540 --> 00:46:09,980
If you're expecting something

874
00:46:09,980 --> 00:46:11,220
and it doesn't happen that way,

875
00:46:11,220 --> 00:46:13,540
you're extremely disappointed.

876
00:46:13,540 --> 00:46:15,180
But setting a standard for yourself

877
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,860
that you as a person perform and want to give it your all

878
00:46:18,860 --> 00:46:20,420
in everything that you do,

879
00:46:20,420 --> 00:46:22,800
that's a contract you sign with yourself.

880
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,660
And that's something that you can never let down on yourself

881
00:46:25,660 --> 00:46:26,940
cause that's who you are.

882
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:30,000
You understand what I'm saying?

883
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,080
So these are the little differences

884
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,920
that one needs to understand.

885
00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:36,940
The prestigious names,

886
00:46:36,940 --> 00:46:39,580
maybe an undergrad, those names are, you know, prestigious.

887
00:46:39,580 --> 00:46:41,500
They have a history, they have great,

888
00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:43,780
like when I was working at a restaurant before coming

889
00:46:43,780 --> 00:46:45,420
to school here, when I,

890
00:46:45,420 --> 00:46:46,700
when people ask me what am I doing?

891
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:50,620
What a tough, I mean, I like the reaction

892
00:46:50,620 --> 00:46:52,740
like I was saying from strangers.

893
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:56,940
You know, that's, they awesome.

894
00:46:56,940 --> 00:46:59,740
So to honestly, with the luck of the draw and like some,

895
00:46:59,740 --> 00:47:02,660
you know, I ended up at a great school.

896
00:47:02,660 --> 00:47:05,980
And, but honestly, that wouldn't mean anything.

897
00:47:05,980 --> 00:47:07,340
Well, I don't back it up.

898
00:47:07,340 --> 00:47:10,740
If I don't utilize what the school has to offer.

899
00:47:10,740 --> 00:47:12,340
Every specialty in house,

900
00:47:12,340 --> 00:47:14,940
we have an amazing research department.

901
00:47:14,940 --> 00:47:18,220
And man, our like clinics,

902
00:47:19,620 --> 00:47:21,700
I mean, our patients that we see,

903
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:23,460
the doctors that we have,

904
00:47:23,460 --> 00:47:25,180
the different residents that are here,

905
00:47:25,180 --> 00:47:27,020
that are teaching us and guiding us

906
00:47:27,020 --> 00:47:31,140
and literally putting us in the best position possible

907
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:31,980
for us to learn.

908
00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:32,940
And I'm not kidding at all.

909
00:47:32,940 --> 00:47:34,220
Like I'm not exaggerating.

910
00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:35,220
It's amazing.

911
00:47:36,220 --> 00:47:37,580
You know, and that's what I'm here for.

912
00:47:37,580 --> 00:47:40,140
And the money, that's another thing.

913
00:47:40,140 --> 00:47:42,060
Money, it's so expensive.

914
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:44,620
I do interviews for like kids in the breakout rooms

915
00:47:44,620 --> 00:47:45,860
for the, and they ask me questions.

916
00:47:45,860 --> 00:47:49,180
And one of the biggest questions always is money,

917
00:47:49,180 --> 00:47:51,500
you know, for Tufts at least or school in Boston.

918
00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:54,860
You can't put price on your career.

919
00:47:54,860 --> 00:47:57,020
This is like an investment you're making in yourself.

920
00:47:57,020 --> 00:47:58,260
You can't put price on that.

921
00:47:58,260 --> 00:47:59,620
Yeah.

922
00:47:59,620 --> 00:48:00,820
While I want to go to a school

923
00:48:00,820 --> 00:48:02,700
that's not well, you know, really respected

924
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:06,460
and doesn't really have the clinical,

925
00:48:06,460 --> 00:48:08,540
you know, history to back it up.

926
00:48:08,540 --> 00:48:09,380
Yeah.

927
00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:10,780
And you know, I don't know if you know,

928
00:48:10,780 --> 00:48:12,980
but I've seen it in my own eyes when I work

929
00:48:12,980 --> 00:48:16,180
in like a private high end practice

930
00:48:16,180 --> 00:48:19,660
and we hire a new associated Dennis,

931
00:48:19,660 --> 00:48:21,900
it didn't click back then, but it clicks now.

932
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:25,540
Why there is a 90 day grace period of working

933
00:48:25,540 --> 00:48:28,460
because you're being tested, you're seeing how great,

934
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:30,780
not only your clinical skills are your diagnosis skills,

935
00:48:30,780 --> 00:48:33,900
your people skills, how you present treatment,

936
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:35,540
how you carry yourself.

937
00:48:35,540 --> 00:48:36,380
Right.

938
00:48:36,380 --> 00:48:38,740
The aspects and approaches you take to things.

939
00:48:38,740 --> 00:48:41,660
There's so many things that dentistry involves.

940
00:48:41,660 --> 00:48:43,620
They're gonna be good and great.

941
00:48:43,620 --> 00:48:45,060
You gotta be great at all of them.

942
00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:45,900
Yeah.

943
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:49,860
So go to a school that really gets you right,

944
00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:53,460
that really has the resources in place

945
00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:58,220
that you can go and ask questions and go see,

946
00:48:58,220 --> 00:49:01,420
you know, add more to your bucket in a sense,

947
00:49:01,420 --> 00:49:02,860
invest in yourself.

948
00:49:02,860 --> 00:49:07,860
So these are all important things to keep in mind.

949
00:49:09,420 --> 00:49:11,500
I think like even going back to the prestigious

950
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:16,020
undergraduates thing, I watched a YouTube video the other day

951
00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:19,060
and this kid went to a community college for undergrad

952
00:49:19,060 --> 00:49:20,220
just because he had to,

953
00:49:20,220 --> 00:49:24,180
but ended up getting to Columbia

954
00:49:24,180 --> 00:49:26,820
from a community college.

955
00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:30,620
So like, where you go to undergrad doesn't really define

956
00:49:30,620 --> 00:49:32,140
where you're gonna go over down to school.

957
00:49:32,140 --> 00:49:34,580
Like honestly dude, honestly, like if I'm being honest,

958
00:49:34,580 --> 00:49:36,260
like going to a community college,

959
00:49:36,260 --> 00:49:38,540
I feel like they put, you have more,

960
00:49:39,660 --> 00:49:41,540
you might have an even greater focus

961
00:49:41,540 --> 00:49:43,500
in someone that goes to Ivy League for undergrad

962
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:45,820
because you're so much more motivated

963
00:49:45,820 --> 00:49:48,540
to do certain things and you like seek out opportunities.

964
00:49:48,540 --> 00:49:51,740
They probably even have like better faculty to mentor you

965
00:49:51,740 --> 00:49:53,740
and like get you through to where you wanna go.

966
00:49:53,740 --> 00:49:54,820
100% right.

967
00:49:54,820 --> 00:49:56,460
I'll do grad where you go.

968
00:49:56,460 --> 00:49:57,620
Those not matter.

969
00:49:57,620 --> 00:49:58,500
It doesn't matter.

970
00:49:58,500 --> 00:50:00,460
It doesn't matter at all.

971
00:50:00,460 --> 00:50:01,340
Zero.

972
00:50:01,340 --> 00:50:02,100
No.

973
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:04,900
It matters on what you feel that you got out of it.

974
00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:06,100
What you get out of it matters,

975
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:08,900
but you can get out of any school to be honest.

976
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:09,740
Yeah.

977
00:50:09,740 --> 00:50:12,180
100% and if you're applying to dental school, guess what?

978
00:50:12,180 --> 00:50:13,300
It's a huge investment

979
00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:15,180
and you gotta really understand where you're going.

980
00:50:15,180 --> 00:50:17,860
You wanna be placed in a right position to succeed.

981
00:50:17,860 --> 00:50:18,860
You really do.

982
00:50:18,860 --> 00:50:21,900
So instead of being so worried and caught up with the application,

983
00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:24,540
if you have the grade and you have everything in place

984
00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:26,220
and you're ready to shoot,

985
00:50:26,220 --> 00:50:27,580
aim for the great targets,

986
00:50:27,580 --> 00:50:30,460
aim for places that you've done extensive research in.

987
00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:34,540
Reach out to students on social media like that are there.

988
00:50:34,540 --> 00:50:36,100
And listen, I've been,

989
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:38,260
I just told my whole story here really.

990
00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:40,340
First generation parents or immigrants

991
00:50:40,340 --> 00:50:42,980
came from a family of zero doctors,

992
00:50:42,980 --> 00:50:46,980
been through hell and back academically, everything.

993
00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:48,580
You've been through.

994
00:50:48,580 --> 00:50:50,180
Well, I know how these people feel.

995
00:50:50,180 --> 00:50:53,180
Like I understand individuals who are in these positions

996
00:50:53,180 --> 00:50:56,860
and I have no problem ever getting like

997
00:50:56,860 --> 00:50:59,140
five or 10 minutes of my time.

998
00:50:59,140 --> 00:51:00,060
That's the crazy part.

999
00:51:00,060 --> 00:51:01,220
And I feel like any pre-dental,

1000
00:51:01,220 --> 00:51:02,500
literally look at any of,

1001
00:51:02,500 --> 00:51:04,580
I guess you were like a dental influencer.

1002
00:51:04,580 --> 00:51:07,780
You consider like a dental influencer on Instagram yet?

1003
00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:10,820
That's what they call them now.

1004
00:51:10,820 --> 00:51:15,420
So I don't, a dental student on Instagram.

1005
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:18,220
I am a dental like, yeah.

1006
00:51:18,220 --> 00:51:21,860
I mean, people come up to me and say what you just said,

1007
00:51:21,860 --> 00:51:23,020
like an influencer.

1008
00:51:23,020 --> 00:51:23,980
Yeah.

1009
00:51:23,980 --> 00:51:30,660
But I don't see myself as a former.

1010
00:51:30,660 --> 00:51:32,860
I don't like, I don't really let social,

1011
00:51:32,860 --> 00:51:35,780
I don't do social media.

1012
00:51:35,780 --> 00:51:37,420
I don't let it control me.

1013
00:51:37,420 --> 00:51:41,060
I'm not doing it because of clout.

1014
00:51:41,060 --> 00:51:42,660
Yeah.

1015
00:51:42,660 --> 00:51:44,460
Like I said, I came to dental school

1016
00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:48,900
and if you notice, the only thing I post on social media

1017
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:51,980
is dentals, originally my work.

1018
00:51:51,980 --> 00:51:53,140
Yeah.

1019
00:51:53,140 --> 00:51:57,420
I saw that no dental student in the country,

1020
00:51:57,420 --> 00:52:04,420
dental student in the country, post their work at no school.

1021
00:52:04,420 --> 00:52:06,380
Day in the life, that's great.

1022
00:52:06,380 --> 00:52:07,220
No disrespect.

1023
00:52:07,220 --> 00:52:08,100
That's cute.

1024
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:08,940
That's awesome.

1025
00:52:08,940 --> 00:52:10,140
Like you're getting your Starbucks,

1026
00:52:10,140 --> 00:52:12,140
you're going to your SimClin.

1027
00:52:12,140 --> 00:52:13,140
That's awesome.

1028
00:52:13,140 --> 00:52:16,340
But what are you producing?

1029
00:52:16,340 --> 00:52:19,660
You know, I didn't like, why aren't you posting your work?

1030
00:52:19,660 --> 00:52:20,260
I don't know.

1031
00:52:20,260 --> 00:52:22,540
But I love my work.

1032
00:52:22,540 --> 00:52:24,860
I love the things that we are doing.

1033
00:52:24,860 --> 00:52:26,940
I love that history is art.

1034
00:52:26,940 --> 00:52:28,420
And that's what I post.

1035
00:52:28,420 --> 00:52:31,380
I post my work and it just so happens

1036
00:52:31,380 --> 00:52:34,340
that people enjoy seeing that.

1037
00:52:34,340 --> 00:52:39,340
And ultimately, you know, I took the, not the risk

1038
00:52:39,340 --> 00:52:40,460
or coming out of my comfort zone

1039
00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:43,140
because I really have no shame of explaining my story,

1040
00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:44,100
explaining my grades.

1041
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:48,300
And turns out there are a lot of people who feel the same way.

1042
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:53,860
And it's great that I have been a part of their journey.

1043
00:52:53,860 --> 00:52:54,900
And that's awesome.

1044
00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:56,940
I think that's the biggest compliment I could ever

1045
00:52:56,940 --> 00:52:59,940
get from someone is that I was part of their journey.

1046
00:52:59,940 --> 00:53:04,860
And I'm really humbled by that to be honest.

1047
00:53:04,860 --> 00:53:06,900
I had that mentality with everything.

1048
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:08,220
We do work.

1049
00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:09,220
We do our stuff.

1050
00:53:09,220 --> 00:53:10,580
And then on to the next one.

1051
00:53:10,580 --> 00:53:11,540
And on to the next one.

1052
00:53:11,540 --> 00:53:13,740
I don't want to just be good at one thing.

1053
00:53:13,740 --> 00:53:15,460
I wanted to keep that excellence.

1054
00:53:15,460 --> 00:53:21,860
And when G1s come here and we meet, they're hungry as well.

1055
00:53:21,860 --> 00:53:23,660
And I would love to, and I love to,

1056
00:53:23,660 --> 00:53:25,220
like share that knowledge with them too.

1057
00:53:25,220 --> 00:53:26,940
So on Instagram is cool.

1058
00:53:26,940 --> 00:53:27,700
It's definitely awesome.

1059
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:29,820
I love content creation.

1060
00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:32,820
Like now I'm starting this whole new, just

1061
00:53:32,820 --> 00:53:37,100
reels back to back of just like asking dental students

1062
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:38,220
what people want to know.

1063
00:53:38,220 --> 00:53:39,020
Yeah.

1064
00:53:39,020 --> 00:53:40,940
Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool too.

1065
00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:41,620
It's like inside.

1066
00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:44,060
Because I mean, that's just like direct to the point, right?

1067
00:53:44,060 --> 00:53:46,460
It's not looking through someone else's like Instagram posts.

1068
00:53:46,460 --> 00:53:47,740
It's just a person.

1069
00:53:47,740 --> 00:53:49,660
Yeah, I mean, it's just been.

1070
00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:51,980
People realize soon enough through the interviews,

1071
00:53:51,980 --> 00:53:55,060
because I'm going to do one every night.

1072
00:53:55,060 --> 00:53:58,820
We got people from all backgrounds, all walks of life,

1073
00:53:58,820 --> 00:54:00,420
all situations.

1074
00:54:00,420 --> 00:54:02,580
Like this is not a far-fetched accomplishment.

1075
00:54:02,580 --> 00:54:05,740
This is 100% doable, man.

1076
00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:07,140
It's 100% doable.

1077
00:54:07,140 --> 00:54:07,700
And guess what?

1078
00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:11,060
Now more than ever, actually the admissions team

1079
00:54:11,060 --> 00:54:13,220
told us this before the pre-download that we

1080
00:54:13,220 --> 00:54:14,380
have once a year.

1081
00:54:16,780 --> 00:54:19,900
Because of COVID and how they required all schools

1082
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:22,620
required less shadowing and less assisting,

1083
00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:26,700
now on top of the grades, expectation of the grades,

1084
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:30,500
they are expecting high shadowing hours now

1085
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:34,380
and high experience, because they just really values that.

1086
00:54:34,380 --> 00:54:36,780
I'm sure a lot of dental schools nowadays value that.

1087
00:54:36,780 --> 00:54:38,580
But that's a huge thing.

1088
00:54:38,580 --> 00:54:39,820
We want to build a sense of community

1089
00:54:39,820 --> 00:54:42,740
where you do care about everything outside of dental

1090
00:54:42,740 --> 00:54:46,100
school, that you care about your community,

1091
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:47,660
that you care about the underserved,

1092
00:54:47,660 --> 00:54:51,140
you care about your experience, your exposure.

1093
00:54:51,140 --> 00:54:55,420
So these all really do matter.

1094
00:54:55,420 --> 00:54:58,700
And when you come into a new environment at school,

1095
00:54:58,700 --> 00:55:01,060
hopefully this is an application process now,

1096
00:55:01,060 --> 00:55:04,060
and students are going to start getting accepted into school,

1097
00:55:04,060 --> 00:55:07,660
you cannot be like, I mean, you can if you want.

1098
00:55:07,660 --> 00:55:09,540
But if you want to really push it,

1099
00:55:09,540 --> 00:55:11,220
you can't be like, all right, my job is done now.

1100
00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:12,100
I'm here.

1101
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:14,100
Now let's just walk through these steps.

1102
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:15,060
No.

1103
00:55:15,060 --> 00:55:16,580
Can't do that.

1104
00:55:16,580 --> 00:55:19,460
My mom, she's told me again, she told me,

1105
00:55:19,460 --> 00:55:21,860
this is just the beginning.

1106
00:55:21,860 --> 00:55:24,420
You did all this, this is just the start.

1107
00:55:24,420 --> 00:55:26,300
And I say that, so we have a pre-neural society

1108
00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:27,140
that's not broken out.

1109
00:55:27,140 --> 00:55:30,340
I always tell kids who are asking about the pre-neural process

1110
00:55:30,340 --> 00:55:32,540
of freshman and sophomores, I'm like,

1111
00:55:32,540 --> 00:55:36,180
the goal isn't really to get into dental school.

1112
00:55:36,180 --> 00:55:38,980
Like the goal is to become a dentist in the future.

1113
00:55:38,980 --> 00:55:40,940
So a lot of kids will just get into dental school

1114
00:55:40,940 --> 00:55:42,100
and they'll just stop.

1115
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:43,540
They won't, I mean, I don't know, I don't know this.

1116
00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:44,380
I don't know that.

1117
00:55:44,380 --> 00:55:47,380
Look, I think, like do you want to be great

1118
00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:48,940
at what you do, honest to God?

1119
00:55:48,940 --> 00:55:51,140
Like if we weren't doing this podcast, we're just talking.

1120
00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:52,860
Did you, like where is your mindset?

1121
00:55:52,860 --> 00:55:55,220
Like what is your expectation for,

1122
00:55:55,220 --> 00:55:56,580
like what's your standard for yourself?

1123
00:55:56,580 --> 00:55:58,540
What are you, what's your vision, I guess?

1124
00:55:58,540 --> 00:56:00,100
Oh, for the podcast?

1125
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:01,500
No, for yourself.

1126
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:02,860
Oh, like myself, I mean, I-

1127
00:56:02,860 --> 00:56:04,220
In this field.

1128
00:56:04,220 --> 00:56:08,420
In this field, I want to become like,

1129
00:56:08,420 --> 00:56:10,740
I want to become a great dentist,

1130
00:56:10,740 --> 00:56:12,580
but also become a great like patient.

1131
00:56:12,580 --> 00:56:14,180
I want to have really good patient care skills.

1132
00:56:14,180 --> 00:56:17,100
Cause I realized through my experiences as a dental assistant,

1133
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:18,540
how important that is.

1134
00:56:18,540 --> 00:56:20,820
Like honestly, that's 50% of dentistry.

1135
00:56:20,820 --> 00:56:21,980
Oh, 50% is filled.

1136
00:56:21,980 --> 00:56:24,820
It's 75, if not 80% of dentistry.

1137
00:56:24,820 --> 00:56:26,140
And you just hit it on the head.

1138
00:56:26,140 --> 00:56:29,260
We're in the business of hospitality.

1139
00:56:29,260 --> 00:56:34,260
And that's exactly what my like life goal honestly is.

1140
00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:37,340
Is to not only clinically be excellent,

1141
00:56:37,340 --> 00:56:40,700
but to also create an experience

1142
00:56:40,700 --> 00:56:44,580
that is unforgettable for each and every one of my patients.

1143
00:56:44,580 --> 00:56:46,060
Honest to God.

1144
00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:49,580
And unfortunately, there are not a lot of people

1145
00:56:49,580 --> 00:56:52,260
that have the hospitality aspect of things

1146
00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:55,500
because not only do you have to be good with people,

1147
00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:58,460
you got to communicate in ways where people understand,

1148
00:56:58,460 --> 00:57:00,100
but you also have to create an environment

1149
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:01,620
where people are comfortable.

1150
00:57:01,620 --> 00:57:04,460
Trust you.

1151
00:57:04,460 --> 00:57:07,300
And that's just like what interests me so much

1152
00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:08,140
about dentistry.

1153
00:57:08,140 --> 00:57:09,500
It's like an all encompassing field.

1154
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:12,100
You got to bring a patient who's in pain

1155
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:15,060
or whatever discomfort, they're not happy with aesthetics.

1156
00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:17,940
You got to not sell your treatment plan,

1157
00:57:17,940 --> 00:57:21,420
but you have to like make them join you on this journey.

1158
00:57:21,420 --> 00:57:22,860
Cause you guys are on this journey together,

1159
00:57:22,860 --> 00:57:25,100
patient and doctor to fix them, fix their issues.

1160
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:25,940
So wherever they are.

1161
00:57:25,940 --> 00:57:27,100
100%

1162
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:30,340
It's saying like it's such a great thing

1163
00:57:30,340 --> 00:57:32,980
and like it's so much more,

1164
00:57:32,980 --> 00:57:36,260
it is also very like hand skill based and stuff like that.

1165
00:57:36,260 --> 00:57:38,500
You'll get there if you really dedicate yourself to it.

1166
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:41,780
But the other side is you're not seeing a mannequin anymore,

1167
00:57:41,780 --> 00:57:42,620
right?

1168
00:57:42,620 --> 00:57:44,940
You're seeing a person who's like,

1169
00:57:44,940 --> 00:57:47,100
you got to adhere to their needs and everything.

1170
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:49,980
So that's kind of what is so interesting about dentistry

1171
00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:52,180
to me is that like, you know,

1172
00:57:52,180 --> 00:57:53,780
when I wrote my personal statement, I wrote like,

1173
00:57:53,780 --> 00:57:58,500
I said, I want to be able to restore the oral cavity,

1174
00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:01,340
but the oral cavity is also a vessel for dialogue.

1175
00:58:01,340 --> 00:58:05,500
And that's where dentistry becomes,

1176
00:58:05,500 --> 00:58:07,220
is why I love dentistry so much.

1177
00:58:07,220 --> 00:58:09,060
So like, and I see it every day,

1178
00:58:09,060 --> 00:58:09,900
where you probably see it,

1179
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:11,060
you're probably going to see it,

1180
00:58:11,060 --> 00:58:11,900
you probably seen it a lot.

1181
00:58:11,900 --> 00:58:15,420
So that's just what's insane of me.

1182
00:58:15,420 --> 00:58:17,420
And that goes away for them,

1183
00:58:17,420 --> 00:58:20,780
then checking off a box or going to orgo to for a class

1184
00:58:20,780 --> 00:58:21,700
or taking a test.

1185
00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:24,340
So that's like, it's crazy.

1186
00:58:24,340 --> 00:58:28,780
They're always, you got to have a vision,

1187
00:58:28,780 --> 00:58:30,620
but you also have to give it your all

1188
00:58:30,620 --> 00:58:32,660
at what you have in front of you today

1189
00:58:32,660 --> 00:58:34,020
to get you to the next step.

1190
00:58:34,020 --> 00:58:36,540
You have to have a vision of what you're aiming towards,

1191
00:58:36,540 --> 00:58:39,860
but you also have to be excellent in the little things.

1192
00:58:39,860 --> 00:58:40,700
Yeah.

1193
00:58:40,700 --> 00:58:42,740
So when you're excellent at little things,

1194
00:58:42,740 --> 00:58:44,780
the littlest things, being organized,

1195
00:58:44,780 --> 00:58:46,140
doing the work to the fullest,

1196
00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:48,260
your brain starts developing this,

1197
00:58:50,060 --> 00:58:51,780
what excellence looks like.

1198
00:58:51,780 --> 00:58:56,580
And that all carries on to your patients.

1199
00:58:56,580 --> 00:58:59,700
You know, waking up, having your routine, being clean,

1200
00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:01,860
having a clean area, setting your bed,

1201
00:59:01,860 --> 00:59:03,380
making your bed, washing your dishes,

1202
00:59:03,380 --> 00:59:04,580
these little things,

1203
00:59:04,580 --> 00:59:06,540
that's how little I'm talking about.

1204
00:59:06,540 --> 00:59:08,100
Make, why are you in a way

1205
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:09,820
where you're not going to take shortcuts

1206
00:59:09,820 --> 00:59:11,980
and you really give it your all to everything you do?

1207
00:59:11,980 --> 00:59:14,060
And that translates into your profession.

1208
00:59:14,060 --> 00:59:15,860
The way you dress, the way you look,

1209
00:59:15,860 --> 00:59:18,460
the way you smell, the way your clothes are,

1210
00:59:18,460 --> 00:59:21,060
is a representation of you at all aspects.

1211
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:23,180
Like people look at you,

1212
00:59:23,180 --> 00:59:24,500
and based on how you look

1213
00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:27,060
and how you present yourself,

1214
00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:30,500
that's a representation of your life, your work.

1215
00:59:31,340 --> 00:59:32,780
You don't understand what I'm saying?

1216
00:59:32,780 --> 00:59:35,140
At least that's how I think, that's my mentality.

1217
00:59:35,140 --> 00:59:36,380
You know what I mean?

1218
00:59:36,380 --> 00:59:40,140
So if one doesn't take care of all aspects of their life,

1219
00:59:41,140 --> 00:59:43,740
that I've been taught by my parents,

1220
00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:45,180
how are you gonna have,

1221
00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:48,380
how are you gonna be great at other things in your life?

1222
00:59:48,380 --> 00:59:50,220
If you can't make a simple, like your bed,

1223
00:59:50,220 --> 00:59:52,220
or whatever the case may be, right?

1224
00:59:52,220 --> 00:59:55,620
So these are all things that come in play,

1225
00:59:55,620 --> 00:59:57,540
and when you come in dental school,

1226
00:59:57,540 --> 01:00:01,180
it's academically, people are different,

1227
01:00:01,180 --> 01:00:03,500
like playing fields, 100% they are,

1228
01:00:03,500 --> 01:00:07,220
but overall, no one's ever picked up a handpiece,

1229
01:00:07,220 --> 01:00:10,460
no one's ever been in clinic before, so it's game on.

1230
01:00:10,460 --> 01:00:11,300
You know what I mean?

1231
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:12,140
In a good way.

1232
01:00:12,140 --> 01:00:14,340
And if you're yourself, where you stand, where you are,

1233
01:00:14,340 --> 01:00:15,620
and like you said, you said something important,

1234
01:00:15,620 --> 01:00:18,860
like if you stick to it with the right guidance,

1235
01:00:18,860 --> 01:00:21,460
and we believe, like how they tell you,

1236
01:00:21,460 --> 01:00:24,420
like we believe in perfect practice.

1237
01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:25,260
Remember, they just practice,

1238
01:00:25,260 --> 01:00:27,620
you repeat the same thing over and over again,

1239
01:00:27,620 --> 01:00:29,380
and get the same result.

1240
01:00:29,380 --> 01:00:32,500
Strive for perfection, have the right guidance,

1241
01:00:32,500 --> 01:00:34,860
and also that ethic, that work ethic,

1242
01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:36,140
and you stay at it,

1243
01:00:36,140 --> 01:00:39,020
and you can definitely be clinically like excellent.

1244
01:00:39,020 --> 01:00:39,860
You know what I mean?

1245
01:00:39,860 --> 01:00:43,460
So there's so many things you could talk about, you know?

1246
01:00:43,460 --> 01:00:46,500
And but that's why I wanted to ask you early on,

1247
01:00:46,500 --> 01:00:47,540
what's the biggest thing right now

1248
01:00:47,540 --> 01:00:49,660
that pre-dense are like really worried about?

1249
01:00:49,660 --> 01:00:54,140
So, but also one thing, man, like don't be set

1250
01:00:54,140 --> 01:00:56,980
on a school either.

1251
01:00:56,980 --> 01:00:58,020
Right.

1252
01:00:58,020 --> 01:00:59,220
Keep your options open.

1253
01:01:00,500 --> 01:01:02,140
And because if they accept you,

1254
01:01:02,140 --> 01:01:05,140
at the end of the day, you're gonna be a doctor.

1255
01:01:05,140 --> 01:01:06,100
You know what I mean?

1256
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:07,940
Yeah, every school, all that matters.

1257
01:01:07,940 --> 01:01:09,860
Every school's gonna get the degree if you get through it.

1258
01:01:09,860 --> 01:01:10,700
So.

1259
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:12,420
Yeah man, the first person in the class,

1260
01:01:12,420 --> 01:01:14,420
the last person in the class will be a doctor.

1261
01:01:14,420 --> 01:01:16,300
It's all like undergrad, you know what I mean?

1262
01:01:16,300 --> 01:01:17,340
Yeah.

1263
01:01:17,340 --> 01:01:18,180
So.

1264
01:01:18,180 --> 01:01:19,020
There are things to do with the mind.

1265
01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:19,860
Of course.

1266
01:01:19,860 --> 01:01:21,300
And I think that's, you know,

1267
01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:23,500
pre-dials might go to undergraduate school

1268
01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:24,860
and the undergraduate school has a dental school

1269
01:01:24,860 --> 01:01:26,020
associated with it.

1270
01:01:26,020 --> 01:01:29,020
And that's like, from day one,

1271
01:01:29,020 --> 01:01:30,580
they're probably like attracted to that school

1272
01:01:30,580 --> 01:01:32,900
that they have to go there, you know what I mean?

1273
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:35,140
But when the day comes, like you wanna keep it open

1274
01:01:35,140 --> 01:01:36,060
because you never know.

1275
01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:38,020
You might get like a better opportunity somewhere else

1276
01:01:38,020 --> 01:01:38,980
and you might know people there

1277
01:01:38,980 --> 01:01:41,780
that you really think that you can succeed in that environment.

1278
01:01:41,780 --> 01:01:45,460
You never wanna, you never wanna like close off your mind

1279
01:01:45,460 --> 01:01:48,060
in certain situations and you know,

1280
01:01:48,060 --> 01:01:48,900
whatever route you take,

1281
01:01:48,900 --> 01:01:52,020
you're gonna have maybe a different journey, you know?

1282
01:01:52,020 --> 01:01:52,860
So.

1283
01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:54,940
It's never a good idea to close an opportunity.

1284
01:01:54,940 --> 01:01:58,460
It's always great to keep it open and also explore it.

1285
01:01:58,460 --> 01:02:01,420
Explore it, take time, do your research.

1286
01:02:01,420 --> 01:02:02,980
If you're lucky enough to get accepted

1287
01:02:02,980 --> 01:02:05,580
within the first, you know, round in a sense,

1288
01:02:05,580 --> 01:02:07,340
that first early on in December,

1289
01:02:08,780 --> 01:02:10,460
research, look at your options,

1290
01:02:10,460 --> 01:02:12,620
go visit, invest in visiting the school,

1291
01:02:12,620 --> 01:02:16,380
go visit the school, go be there in person, you know,

1292
01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:18,500
walk around, see if you belong here.

1293
01:02:18,500 --> 01:02:20,020
Is this the school for me?

1294
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:20,860
You know?

1295
01:02:20,860 --> 01:02:21,700
Yeah.

1296
01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:22,540
These are all important things

1297
01:02:22,540 --> 01:02:24,860
that I wanted to take into consideration I think.

1298
01:02:24,860 --> 01:02:25,980
For sure.

1299
01:02:25,980 --> 01:02:28,340
I mean, so let's talk a little bit about like dental school.

1300
01:02:28,340 --> 01:02:31,900
So, you know, you get the tufts.

1301
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:33,700
What are your initial impressions of that?

1302
01:02:33,700 --> 01:02:35,700
Did you ever visit it beforehand or no?

1303
01:02:37,980 --> 01:02:42,540
I came for my interview in person, time,

1304
01:02:42,540 --> 01:02:44,900
but it was like literally for a night

1305
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:46,820
and I'll leave early the next day.

1306
01:02:48,220 --> 01:02:51,540
But that's the only school I ever got accepted to.

1307
01:02:51,540 --> 01:02:54,500
So it was just, you know, that was where I'm going.

1308
01:02:54,500 --> 01:02:59,500
So, but tufts specifically, not me,

1309
01:03:00,420 --> 01:03:02,420
I'm not being biased honestly at all.

1310
01:03:05,780 --> 01:03:09,260
There's a great sense of community here.

1311
01:03:09,260 --> 01:03:11,060
I think that's a good place to start.

1312
01:03:11,060 --> 01:03:13,420
You want to have a good community.

1313
01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:17,180
You want to go to a place that has great resources

1314
01:03:17,180 --> 01:03:21,660
and also instructors that really love what they're doing

1315
01:03:23,260 --> 01:03:25,540
and to connect and find those instructors

1316
01:03:25,540 --> 01:03:28,220
that are really passionate about their craft.

1317
01:03:30,180 --> 01:03:31,700
And I think, you know, I don't really know

1318
01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:33,460
how other schools do their academics,

1319
01:03:33,460 --> 01:03:38,460
but we are the only school in the country that as a D1,

1320
01:03:38,460 --> 01:03:42,260
we have a mind, like body and wellness type class,

1321
01:03:42,260 --> 01:03:45,740
like a meditation type class that's required for us to take.

1322
01:03:47,460 --> 01:03:49,660
The only school in the country.

1323
01:03:49,660 --> 01:03:54,260
So not only that, but you're not hit

1324
01:03:54,260 --> 01:03:56,460
with all your classes all at once.

1325
01:03:58,260 --> 01:04:00,940
It's like you start anatomy with the mind, body,

1326
01:04:00,940 --> 01:04:04,100
wellness class with this other like that elective,

1327
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:07,940
but this other sort of elective type class

1328
01:04:07,940 --> 01:04:10,980
that complements your anatomy course, right?

1329
01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:12,820
You do that for a couple of weeks,

1330
01:04:12,820 --> 01:04:15,980
and then anatomy dies down and starts to wrap up

1331
01:04:15,980 --> 01:04:18,060
and then you start your next course.

1332
01:04:18,060 --> 01:04:18,900
You see what I'm saying?

1333
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:23,380
So it transitions class into class into class.

1334
01:04:23,380 --> 01:04:25,460
And then when you got the hang of things,

1335
01:04:25,460 --> 01:04:28,220
then things slowly start to pick up,

1336
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:30,780
but you're ready to handle it.

1337
01:04:31,780 --> 01:04:32,980
I think that's huge.

1338
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:36,740
I think the system of like how the school is set up

1339
01:04:36,740 --> 01:04:39,860
is a huge part of your success, right?

1340
01:04:39,860 --> 01:04:42,060
Because before you had X amount of time

1341
01:04:42,060 --> 01:04:43,940
and full time to study for your exams,

1342
01:04:43,940 --> 01:04:47,020
but now, bro, we have times where we're taking exams

1343
01:04:47,020 --> 01:04:48,900
every week, if not two a week,

1344
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:51,540
plus the competencies for our hands on work.

1345
01:04:53,140 --> 01:04:54,660
You see what I'm saying?

1346
01:04:54,660 --> 01:04:59,660
So resources in place if the students so chooses to utilize them.

1347
01:05:03,980 --> 01:05:06,180
Mind, body, wellness, meditation,

1348
01:05:06,180 --> 01:05:09,780
there's confidential like private meetings you could have

1349
01:05:09,780 --> 01:05:12,820
with a staff member here if anything's going like,

1350
01:05:12,820 --> 01:05:13,980
you know, difficult in your life

1351
01:05:13,980 --> 01:05:17,740
or the mental health aspect of things.

1352
01:05:17,740 --> 01:05:19,100
It's here.

1353
01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:21,300
You know, we have that like covered.

1354
01:05:22,300 --> 01:05:23,140
I think that's awesome.

1355
01:05:23,140 --> 01:05:23,980
I mean, what's the law?

1356
01:05:23,980 --> 01:05:25,300
What's the law of meditation course?

1357
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:27,740
No school, no school.

1358
01:05:27,740 --> 01:05:30,020
Not only that, we're extremely diverse.

1359
01:05:31,340 --> 01:05:34,340
Matter of fact, with the most on paper

1360
01:05:34,340 --> 01:05:39,340
and obviously person diverse school in the country, 100%.

1361
01:05:40,340 --> 01:05:41,500
And why is that awesome?

1362
01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:44,100
Because you get to meet cultures

1363
01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:47,540
like you're saying the hospitality aspect of things, right?

1364
01:05:47,540 --> 01:05:50,460
How can you connect with your patients

1365
01:05:50,460 --> 01:05:54,620
who are gonna be cultured and diverse

1366
01:05:54,620 --> 01:05:59,140
if you have never met a Persian person,

1367
01:05:59,140 --> 01:06:04,140
an Asian person, an Indian person, an African person,

1368
01:06:04,140 --> 01:06:06,860
a Caribbean, a Latin American.

1369
01:06:06,860 --> 01:06:08,420
You know what I'm saying?

1370
01:06:08,420 --> 01:06:09,260
That's a great point.

1371
01:06:09,260 --> 01:06:10,700
I actually never thought about that.

1372
01:06:10,700 --> 01:06:13,260
How your own classmates, how your own classmates

1373
01:06:13,260 --> 01:06:15,140
can shape who you are.

1374
01:06:15,140 --> 01:06:18,940
On the first side, that's where you're talking to a patient.

1375
01:06:18,940 --> 01:06:21,940
And oh my God, yeah, I've tried that food before.

1376
01:06:21,940 --> 01:06:22,780
Boom.

1377
01:06:22,780 --> 01:06:24,940
I've been to Thailand.

1378
01:06:24,940 --> 01:06:28,380
I've been to, I know someone from Korea.

1379
01:06:28,380 --> 01:06:29,220
Right.

1380
01:06:30,260 --> 01:06:32,100
So I'm gonna say a little word in Korean.

1381
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:35,380
That one little connect, like when someone speaks

1382
01:06:35,380 --> 01:06:37,100
your language, even knows one word.

1383
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:37,940
Yeah.

1384
01:06:37,940 --> 01:06:39,380
Like oh, that's awesome.

1385
01:06:39,380 --> 01:06:42,180
Yeah, he's always like connection.

1386
01:06:42,180 --> 01:06:43,220
Yeah.

1387
01:06:43,220 --> 01:06:45,740
So it's a huge investment.

1388
01:06:45,740 --> 01:06:49,260
I mean, that's the opportunity to have the most diverse class

1389
01:06:49,260 --> 01:06:52,980
in the whole United States at a professional dental school

1390
01:06:52,980 --> 01:06:56,020
where you can connect, have the opportunity to connect

1391
01:06:56,020 --> 01:06:59,580
and get to know different people from all over the world.

1392
01:06:59,580 --> 01:07:00,940
Right.

1393
01:07:00,940 --> 01:07:02,260
That's a huge investment.

1394
01:07:02,260 --> 01:07:04,220
Where are you gonna get that at?

1395
01:07:04,220 --> 01:07:06,220
You know what I mean?

1396
01:07:06,220 --> 01:07:10,780
So that's another huge plus, right?

1397
01:07:10,780 --> 01:07:13,860
And then ultimately Tufts is really known for their clinic.

1398
01:07:13,860 --> 01:07:14,940
Mm-hmm.

1399
01:07:14,940 --> 01:07:17,700
And their pre-exit and their clinic specifically.

1400
01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:20,220
And now that I'm here, I see why.

1401
01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:23,220
The level of excellence that they hold students to

1402
01:07:23,220 --> 01:07:25,460
is amazing.

1403
01:07:25,460 --> 01:07:26,740
Amazing.

1404
01:07:26,740 --> 01:07:29,740
Our requirements are just where they need to be.

1405
01:07:29,740 --> 01:07:31,900
You know, they're appropriate.

1406
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:34,820
We have the facility, we have everything that we need here.

1407
01:07:34,820 --> 01:07:37,980
I mean, and also guess what?

1408
01:07:37,980 --> 01:07:42,500
No, we call UG like the upper grad, you know,

1409
01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:45,140
the residents, like we have specialties in-house.

1410
01:07:45,140 --> 01:07:47,900
All the specialties are pretty much in-house.

1411
01:07:47,900 --> 01:07:49,940
You can go on different floors

1412
01:07:49,940 --> 01:07:52,180
and you can ask them, can I shadow?

1413
01:07:52,180 --> 01:07:54,180
Can I assist on an implant case?

1414
01:07:54,180 --> 01:07:56,100
Can I assist on a perio case?

1415
01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:59,700
Can I assist on a prost case or a oral surgery case?

1416
01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:01,100
Whatever the case may be.

1417
01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:01,940
You understand what I'm saying?

1418
01:08:01,940 --> 01:08:05,140
So to have these resources right there,

1419
01:08:07,060 --> 01:08:09,300
it's a huge investment.

1420
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:11,500
It's a huge plus, you know what I mean?

1421
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:12,460
It's huge.

1422
01:08:12,460 --> 01:08:13,460
It's huge.

1423
01:08:13,460 --> 01:08:17,500
So like I said, from the community to the resources,

1424
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:21,500
to the institution, all the opportunities,

1425
01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:23,540
the exposure that you're getting,

1426
01:08:23,540 --> 01:08:27,500
the exposure you're getting alone is everything, I think.

1427
01:08:28,820 --> 01:08:29,660
You know what I mean?

1428
01:08:29,660 --> 01:08:32,460
And then at a third year, when you're third year,

1429
01:08:32,460 --> 01:08:35,620
you have a course, a business course,

1430
01:08:35,620 --> 01:08:39,340
with one of the most amazing, honest to God,

1431
01:08:39,340 --> 01:08:41,420
she's the best professor.

1432
01:08:41,420 --> 01:08:45,300
She is not a doctor, but she, her husband,

1433
01:08:45,300 --> 01:08:47,380
if I'm not mistaken, her three, her niece,

1434
01:08:47,380 --> 01:08:50,460
one of her children just graduated,

1435
01:08:50,460 --> 01:08:52,980
but the other two have already graduated

1436
01:08:52,980 --> 01:08:57,340
and she owns, she runs, I mean, they all own practices.

1437
01:08:57,340 --> 01:09:01,620
So first hand, you get to learn about practice management.

1438
01:09:01,620 --> 01:09:02,460
Yeah.

1439
01:09:02,460 --> 01:09:04,780
With all the Excel software and sheets that you need

1440
01:09:04,780 --> 01:09:06,700
to navigate your expenses and what you need,

1441
01:09:06,700 --> 01:09:08,900
how much you can save up, yada, yada, yada.

1442
01:09:08,900 --> 01:09:09,740
It's huge.

1443
01:09:09,740 --> 01:09:10,660
So basically like kind of prepping you

1444
01:09:10,660 --> 01:09:11,500
for private practice.

1445
01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:13,980
When you wanna own your own practice or work in it,

1446
01:09:13,980 --> 01:09:14,820
you know, it's crazy.

1447
01:09:14,820 --> 01:09:16,900
I mean, I gain you in that mentality,

1448
01:09:16,900 --> 01:09:18,220
like what it really takes.

1449
01:09:18,220 --> 01:09:22,100
And you start seeing what it takes and we,

1450
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:25,340
you don't have time, four years is not a lot of time.

1451
01:09:25,340 --> 01:09:26,740
No, not really.

1452
01:09:26,740 --> 01:09:29,300
It's not at all, nothing.

1453
01:09:29,300 --> 01:09:30,580
Every dentist I've talked to is like,

1454
01:09:30,580 --> 01:09:32,100
oh, man, you're not even gonna be running any more.

1455
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:34,460
It's like a bare minute and they're right.

1456
01:09:34,460 --> 01:09:38,220
But you can try to do your best to set yourself up

1457
01:09:38,220 --> 01:09:41,540
and work extremely hard for a couple of years

1458
01:09:41,540 --> 01:09:45,180
to be at the very least above average when you graduate.

1459
01:09:46,740 --> 01:09:47,580
You know what I mean?

1460
01:09:47,580 --> 01:09:48,420
Yeah.

1461
01:09:48,420 --> 01:09:50,060
That's important, I think.

1462
01:09:50,060 --> 01:09:51,220
Yeah.

1463
01:09:51,220 --> 01:09:53,780
I mean, that's crazy.

1464
01:09:53,780 --> 01:09:56,340
I mean, so where do you see your, like you're a D2 now,

1465
01:09:56,340 --> 01:09:57,940
you're a finishing D2 year.

1466
01:09:57,940 --> 01:09:58,900
So.

1467
01:09:58,900 --> 01:09:59,740
Yeah.

1468
01:09:59,740 --> 01:10:02,740
So like when you, so in during D3 year,

1469
01:10:02,740 --> 01:10:04,460
do you have to start applying to residency

1470
01:10:04,460 --> 01:10:05,300
during that year?

1471
01:10:06,340 --> 01:10:08,420
Kind of like how college is or.

1472
01:10:08,420 --> 01:10:11,580
The end of your D3 year, you're gonna start applying.

1473
01:10:11,580 --> 01:10:13,860
Like it's like your junior year.

1474
01:10:13,860 --> 01:10:15,060
Yeah.

1475
01:10:15,060 --> 01:10:15,900
You see what I'm saying?

1476
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:18,660
Your junior year, you start applying to see where you're at

1477
01:10:18,660 --> 01:10:21,100
so you could match or not match,

1478
01:10:21,100 --> 01:10:26,100
but get accepted to if you wanna go ahead and do.

1479
01:10:26,860 --> 01:10:30,580
But you start realizing a general dentist

1480
01:10:30,580 --> 01:10:33,500
can do so much nowadays.

1481
01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:35,180
Oh yeah, yeah.

1482
01:10:35,180 --> 01:10:38,340
It's like meaning they can if they wanted to do really

1483
01:10:38,340 --> 01:10:42,460
a lot of things that special she does,

1484
01:10:42,460 --> 01:10:45,460
but do you really wanna go do three more years?

1485
01:10:46,420 --> 01:10:50,020
Like, you know, do you really wanna spend like four more years

1486
01:10:50,020 --> 01:10:51,300
for oral surgery, for example,

1487
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:53,140
or like three more years or two more years

1488
01:10:53,140 --> 01:10:54,420
on top of what you've already done?

1489
01:10:54,420 --> 01:10:55,820
Maybe.

1490
01:10:55,820 --> 01:10:57,540
But that's honestly, like I said,

1491
01:10:57,540 --> 01:10:58,620
it's a case by case basis.

1492
01:10:58,620 --> 01:11:01,060
Everyone has different vision, different paths,

1493
01:11:01,060 --> 01:11:03,260
different like goals, you know?

1494
01:11:03,260 --> 01:11:05,740
So it's important to keep your options open though

1495
01:11:05,740 --> 01:11:08,780
when you come in as a pre-dead, be like a sponge.

1496
01:11:08,780 --> 01:11:11,740
Really get to know everything about everything.

1497
01:11:11,740 --> 01:11:13,740
See your options, see what you love,

1498
01:11:13,740 --> 01:11:15,140
see where you're passionate.

1499
01:11:15,140 --> 01:11:17,300
Don't just go into all my fests

1500
01:11:17,300 --> 01:11:19,260
because you think it's something special, you know?

1501
01:11:19,260 --> 01:11:20,940
It's a great specialty,

1502
01:11:20,940 --> 01:11:22,700
but don't just go into all my fests

1503
01:11:22,700 --> 01:11:27,260
because someone's told you or you don't know anything yet.

1504
01:11:27,260 --> 01:11:28,380
Yeah.

1505
01:11:28,380 --> 01:11:31,420
Take a second, take a year, two years maybe,

1506
01:11:31,420 --> 01:11:33,260
maybe even three years.

1507
01:11:33,260 --> 01:11:35,460
Some students decided to do it like their last,

1508
01:11:35,460 --> 01:11:37,540
like, you know, last minute.

1509
01:11:37,540 --> 01:11:39,620
Yeah, a lot.

1510
01:11:39,620 --> 01:11:42,060
So that's important to think about.

1511
01:11:42,060 --> 01:11:42,900
I mean, that's crazy.

1512
01:11:42,900 --> 01:11:45,020
So what kind of stuff are you,

1513
01:11:45,020 --> 01:11:46,780
so it was do you want, when does Tufts

1514
01:11:46,780 --> 01:11:48,860
put you guys into like clinics or not clinics,

1515
01:11:48,860 --> 01:11:51,180
but like, when do you guys start working on hand skills?

1516
01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:52,540
That's Tufts.

1517
01:11:52,540 --> 01:11:54,500
So your first semester, you have a course called,

1518
01:11:54,500 --> 01:11:56,500
at least how it's set up right now,

1519
01:11:56,500 --> 01:11:59,740
dental anatomy, that's your first exposure to hand skills.

1520
01:11:59,740 --> 01:12:02,260
Okay, it's a theory portion of dental anatomy,

1521
01:12:02,260 --> 01:12:06,340
but then you also have like three wax up projects.

1522
01:12:06,340 --> 01:12:08,300
So you gotta start waxing.

1523
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:10,460
Okay, you wax up different things

1524
01:12:10,460 --> 01:12:11,740
at different levels of difficulty,

1525
01:12:11,740 --> 01:12:15,100
different teeth at different levels of difficulty.

1526
01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:16,980
But obviously you're learning about the line angle,

1527
01:12:16,980 --> 01:12:19,340
the line angles, the anatomy of the tooth,

1528
01:12:19,340 --> 01:12:20,820
what you gotta look for.

1529
01:12:20,820 --> 01:12:22,540
And then you go ahead and replicate,

1530
01:12:22,540 --> 01:12:24,060
you know, what the tooth is supposed to look like.

1531
01:12:24,060 --> 01:12:25,580
You build it up.

1532
01:12:25,580 --> 01:12:27,020
That's your first exposure.

1533
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:31,020
Then Operative One starts in the spring.

1534
01:12:32,540 --> 01:12:34,140
You go out once you break, you come back.

1535
01:12:34,140 --> 01:12:35,700
That's where you get your high speed,

1536
01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:38,780
your low speed hand piece, your instruments,

1537
01:12:38,780 --> 01:12:41,020
all your materials and boom.

1538
01:12:41,020 --> 01:12:43,300
You got an X amount of projects

1539
01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:45,700
to start learning every week.

1540
01:12:45,700 --> 01:12:47,180
You get introduced to a new project

1541
01:12:47,180 --> 01:12:49,940
that requires a new approach.

1542
01:12:49,940 --> 01:12:51,260
And that's the first set.

1543
01:12:51,260 --> 01:12:54,660
And then you obviously go into your second year

1544
01:12:54,660 --> 01:12:56,500
and you do Operative Two,

1545
01:12:56,500 --> 01:12:59,740
which for us, Operative One is more like Class One,

1546
01:12:59,740 --> 01:13:03,540
restoration, Class One prep, Class One restoration,

1547
01:13:03,540 --> 01:13:07,180
Class Two prep, Class Two restoration, Class Three prep.

1548
01:13:07,180 --> 01:13:08,940
Same thing, it goes on and on and on and on

1549
01:13:08,940 --> 01:13:10,380
on all the preps, all the classes.

1550
01:13:10,380 --> 01:13:12,580
Class One, Two, Three, Four, Five,

1551
01:13:12,580 --> 01:13:14,660
and then a mix of, you know, you do a malgum,

1552
01:13:14,660 --> 01:13:16,180
we learn how to do a malgum,

1553
01:13:16,180 --> 01:13:18,380
and in that recvision obviously on different teeth

1554
01:13:18,380 --> 01:13:21,340
of the mouth to really challenge you and all that stuff.

1555
01:13:22,660 --> 01:13:24,900
And then there's a theory portion as well to that class.

1556
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:27,980
There's a practical and a theory portion.

1557
01:13:27,980 --> 01:13:30,300
Then you go into Operative Two.

1558
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:31,300
Now what we're doing for us,

1559
01:13:31,300 --> 01:13:33,540
at least we did like diastomaclosures,

1560
01:13:33,540 --> 01:13:35,700
aesthetics, like veneers,

1561
01:13:35,700 --> 01:13:38,100
preps rebuilding like a, you know,

1562
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:40,860
like a mesial distal and occlusal

1563
01:13:40,860 --> 01:13:43,540
or building up a mesial occlusal

1564
01:13:43,540 --> 01:13:46,180
and the galingual cuss out of, you know,

1565
01:13:46,180 --> 01:13:47,980
so it gets more challenging.

1566
01:13:47,980 --> 01:13:50,340
Rightfully so, I mean, it has to.

1567
01:13:50,340 --> 01:13:53,140
Then your spring semester of your second year,

1568
01:13:53,140 --> 01:13:55,740
which is what I'm finishing up now,

1569
01:13:55,740 --> 01:13:58,900
you got your complete denture classes,

1570
01:13:58,900 --> 01:14:02,060
your removable partial denture classes,

1571
01:14:02,060 --> 01:14:06,740
your fixed props implant dentistry.

1572
01:14:06,740 --> 01:14:08,060
You have an ortho class,

1573
01:14:08,060 --> 01:14:11,340
but we don't really have a project part of that.

1574
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:15,380
So, you know, Endo, Endo's huge.

1575
01:14:16,420 --> 01:14:17,860
You get into more classes like that

1576
01:14:17,860 --> 01:14:19,660
and the different Aepido.

1577
01:14:19,660 --> 01:14:20,660
Yeah.

1578
01:14:20,660 --> 01:14:23,380
You know, so it's all of these now that we do.

1579
01:14:23,380 --> 01:14:28,380
And then we start going into now less than a month in July,

1580
01:14:28,780 --> 01:14:30,660
we can start seeing patients.

1581
01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:31,500
And I think one of the,

1582
01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:35,380
also one of the coolest things that we do have here

1583
01:14:35,380 --> 01:14:39,260
at Tufts is a big little system.

1584
01:14:39,260 --> 01:14:44,260
So when you come in as a D1, you have a D2 big,

1585
01:14:44,260 --> 01:14:46,260
you have a D3 big,

1586
01:14:46,260 --> 01:14:48,260
and you also have a D4 big.

1587
01:14:48,260 --> 01:14:50,260
Grand big or something.

1588
01:14:50,260 --> 01:14:51,260
Like a G big, yeah.

1589
01:14:51,260 --> 01:14:54,260
And then like, so what happens is you already have

1590
01:14:54,260 --> 01:14:57,260
sort of someone that can guide you along the way

1591
01:14:57,260 --> 01:15:00,260
and give you a heads up because the fourth year big,

1592
01:15:00,260 --> 01:15:04,260
those patients will eventually become your patients

1593
01:15:04,260 --> 01:15:05,260
under that roster.

1594
01:15:05,260 --> 01:15:06,260
Yeah.

1595
01:15:06,260 --> 01:15:08,260
And you can like, you can like shadow on the system

1596
01:15:08,260 --> 01:15:10,260
while they're doing their stuff.

1597
01:15:10,260 --> 01:15:11,260
Right.

1598
01:15:11,260 --> 01:15:13,260
It's on like different classes, heads up on like,

1599
01:15:13,260 --> 01:15:16,260
what's the difficult classes, the patients, what to expect.

1600
01:15:16,260 --> 01:15:19,260
So I'm really, you know, I had a great relationship with my big

1601
01:15:19,260 --> 01:15:23,260
prior to coming into school, but I also match it with

1602
01:15:23,260 --> 01:15:26,260
someone like from your area or maybe, you know, somewhere

1603
01:15:26,260 --> 01:15:28,260
that you guys connect as well.

1604
01:15:28,260 --> 01:15:31,260
Like, you know, so it's a great system for support.

1605
01:15:31,260 --> 01:15:33,260
And they help you a lot, especially when you go to clinic

1606
01:15:33,260 --> 01:15:34,260
to get you going.

1607
01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:35,260
Great.

1608
01:15:35,260 --> 01:15:37,260
I mean, that's great.

1609
01:15:37,260 --> 01:15:41,260
Still, I mean, so you're gonna be seeing patients,

1610
01:15:41,260 --> 01:15:42,260
you said July.

1611
01:15:42,260 --> 01:15:47,260
So do you know like the process of how that starts up?

1612
01:15:47,260 --> 01:15:49,260
Or like, do you have to find your patients?

1613
01:15:49,260 --> 01:15:50,260
Like, do they just get passed out?

1614
01:15:50,260 --> 01:15:52,260
What's the deal logistics of all that?

1615
01:15:52,260 --> 01:15:55,260
Yeah, right now, actually, it's pretty cool.

1616
01:15:55,260 --> 01:15:58,260
So like, what is it?

1617
01:15:58,260 --> 01:15:59,260
Yeah.

1618
01:15:59,260 --> 01:16:02,260
So in the May early, like June, we see, we can see

1619
01:16:02,260 --> 01:16:04,260
patients on July 5th.

1620
01:16:04,260 --> 01:16:05,260
Okay.

1621
01:16:05,260 --> 01:16:06,260
Right now, what's happening?

1622
01:16:06,260 --> 01:16:07,260
Yeah.

1623
01:16:07,260 --> 01:16:09,260
So what's happening is the fourth year is just graduated.

1624
01:16:09,260 --> 01:16:10,260
Yeah.

1625
01:16:10,260 --> 01:16:13,260
So the third years will be, it's this like weird phase right

1626
01:16:13,260 --> 01:16:14,260
now.

1627
01:16:14,260 --> 01:16:16,260
Like the third years are about to be fourth years.

1628
01:16:16,260 --> 01:16:17,260
Right.

1629
01:16:17,260 --> 01:16:19,260
And like in the year, they're about to be third years.

1630
01:16:19,260 --> 01:16:24,260
So what happens is the fourth years, they pass their patients

1631
01:16:24,260 --> 01:16:26,260
down to the third years.

1632
01:16:26,260 --> 01:16:31,260
Now, when you get patients, at least here, we have certain

1633
01:16:31,260 --> 01:16:33,260
requirements, let's say like 10 crowns, we've got to do,

1634
01:16:33,260 --> 01:16:35,260
like hypothetically, that's not an actual amount, but let's

1635
01:16:35,260 --> 01:16:39,260
just say for this conversation, 10 crowns, hypothetically, we

1636
01:16:39,260 --> 01:16:43,260
have to do, and we got to do, you know, 20 operative procedures

1637
01:16:43,260 --> 01:16:48,260
before we graduate, for example, and perio and whatever.

1638
01:16:48,260 --> 01:16:53,260
But those patients will get passed down to the third year,

1639
01:16:53,260 --> 01:16:55,260
you know, because we got to all graduate.

1640
01:16:55,260 --> 01:17:02,260
So whatever that, you know, that third year is low on,

1641
01:17:02,260 --> 01:17:06,260
they'll pretty much keep those patients and then pass down

1642
01:17:06,260 --> 01:17:11,260
the rest to the second year who has nothing and get them

1643
01:17:11,260 --> 01:17:12,260
going.

1644
01:17:12,260 --> 01:17:17,260
So at least for, and in the whole class is divided into six

1645
01:17:17,260 --> 01:17:22,260
different group practices, which means like the second floor

1646
01:17:22,260 --> 01:17:26,260
here at Tufts, the third floor and the fourth floor are like

1647
01:17:26,260 --> 01:17:30,260
the dental school, like we call the UG undergrad, like which

1648
01:17:30,260 --> 01:17:32,260
is dental school, the UG floors.

1649
01:17:32,260 --> 01:17:35,260
That's where we work on our patients and anything else that

1650
01:17:35,260 --> 01:17:38,260
we need, like that's more extensive, we send them up to the

1651
01:17:38,260 --> 01:17:40,260
specialty departments, right?

1652
01:17:40,260 --> 01:17:45,260
So the whole class of 200 and some change is divided into

1653
01:17:45,260 --> 01:17:49,260
six different group practices, so two on each floor, which

1654
01:17:49,260 --> 01:17:52,260
have their own like head instructors pretty much, but then

1655
01:17:52,260 --> 01:17:56,260
all the faculty and the different specialties rotate upon

1656
01:17:56,260 --> 01:17:58,260
these floors to help students on there every day, if that

1657
01:17:58,260 --> 01:18:00,260
makes sense.

1658
01:18:00,260 --> 01:18:03,260
So we're all divided different floors, different group

1659
01:18:03,260 --> 01:18:05,260
practices we call it.

1660
01:18:05,260 --> 01:18:10,260
And then so now I'll have a roster of about, I'll start with

1661
01:18:10,260 --> 01:18:16,260
five and I believe I can go up to like 35 or 30 or 35 patients,

1662
01:18:16,260 --> 01:18:18,260
but, and that's a lot, honestly.

1663
01:18:18,260 --> 01:18:22,260
Then obviously if you have patients who don't come, we have

1664
01:18:22,260 --> 01:18:25,260
this whole system, this protocol that we go by that we can

1665
01:18:25,260 --> 01:18:30,260
dismiss them if they have an answer, but my point is you can

1666
01:18:30,260 --> 01:18:33,260
always bring fresh patients, say like new patients, and

1667
01:18:33,260 --> 01:18:35,260
there's opportunities for that, to be honest.

1668
01:18:35,260 --> 01:18:37,260
So it's a great system.

1669
01:18:37,260 --> 01:18:40,260
So then I was, we're now a patient of like roster of five,

1670
01:18:40,260 --> 01:18:42,260
just to get me going, you know, because I gotta learn Axiom,

1671
01:18:42,260 --> 01:18:44,260
I gotta learn the computer, I gotta learn some things too

1672
01:18:44,260 --> 01:18:46,260
that I haven't been really exposed to.

1673
01:18:46,260 --> 01:18:52,260
So ease our way in and then we can go ahead and do our thing.

1674
01:18:52,260 --> 01:18:55,260
So, and this is all up to you.

1675
01:18:55,260 --> 01:18:57,260
So now we don't have a fixed schedule.

1676
01:18:57,260 --> 01:19:00,260
We still have certain exams that we got to take in classes in

1677
01:19:00,260 --> 01:19:03,260
our third year, but regarding seeing patients, that's on you.

1678
01:19:03,260 --> 01:19:07,260
You schedule your own patients, you call your own patients,

1679
01:19:07,260 --> 01:19:11,260
you set them up, everything is on you.

1680
01:19:11,260 --> 01:19:14,260
We're not like, I don't know how other schools do it or

1681
01:19:14,260 --> 01:19:17,260
anywhere else, but nothing is set up for you.

1682
01:19:17,260 --> 01:19:18,260
Like assigned.

1683
01:19:18,260 --> 01:19:20,260
Yeah.

1684
01:19:20,260 --> 01:19:23,260
So if you're not getting your requirements down in a timely

1685
01:19:23,260 --> 01:19:28,260
manner, then that's on you and you're not going to graduate.

1686
01:19:28,260 --> 01:19:29,260
You know what I mean?

1687
01:19:29,260 --> 01:19:32,260
And in the mix of your third years, not only are you seeing

1688
01:19:32,260 --> 01:19:35,260
patients, but you're starting your rotations.

1689
01:19:35,260 --> 01:19:37,260
You're starting your externship, right?

1690
01:19:37,260 --> 01:19:39,260
You got to your boards.

1691
01:19:39,260 --> 01:19:41,260
This all takes time.

1692
01:19:41,260 --> 01:19:42,260
Yeah.

1693
01:19:42,260 --> 01:19:47,260
So scheduling really comes into play strategically planning it.

1694
01:19:47,260 --> 01:19:50,260
And at the end of the day, just getting it done.

1695
01:19:50,260 --> 01:19:54,260
And have you seen, so you said D2 could get some patients, right?

1696
01:19:54,260 --> 01:19:57,260
Defending on what D3s don't need, I guess.

1697
01:19:57,260 --> 01:19:58,260
Right.

1698
01:19:58,260 --> 01:20:02,260
Have you seen patients already or where are you in that process?

1699
01:20:02,260 --> 01:20:03,260
Yes.

1700
01:20:03,260 --> 01:20:05,260
So I've been assisting often.

1701
01:20:05,260 --> 01:20:10,260
Like I've been in the, my whole mentality right now is I've been

1702
01:20:10,260 --> 01:20:12,260
a lot on the pre-execlins side.

1703
01:20:12,260 --> 01:20:15,260
I haven't seen patients like as a provider.

1704
01:20:15,260 --> 01:20:17,260
I haven't seen patients as like a provider yet.

1705
01:20:17,260 --> 01:20:20,260
So I will be seeing them in July as a provider.

1706
01:20:20,260 --> 01:20:21,260
Yeah.

1707
01:20:21,260 --> 01:20:25,260
But my whole mentality is like my brain, I think is so used to

1708
01:20:25,260 --> 01:20:30,260
right now exams and pre-clin projects that I'm really getting

1709
01:20:30,260 --> 01:20:33,260
like back to how I was before like dental school in a sense,

1710
01:20:33,260 --> 01:20:35,260
like the whole assisting and stuff.

1711
01:20:35,260 --> 01:20:36,260
Yeah.

1712
01:20:36,260 --> 01:20:39,260
You know, getting that patient interaction back and flowing,

1713
01:20:39,260 --> 01:20:42,260
which will connect, you know, for me, at least it's very good

1714
01:20:42,260 --> 01:20:44,260
and organic, I feel like.

1715
01:20:44,260 --> 01:20:49,260
But also being extremely curious in the different tabs and buttons

1716
01:20:49,260 --> 01:20:52,260
and forms that need to be filled out and consents that need to be

1717
01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:55,260
signed and how the process works.

1718
01:20:55,260 --> 01:21:00,260
Because in schools completely, everything needs to be monitored.

1719
01:21:00,260 --> 01:21:04,260
Every step needs to be signed off on and they got their old protocol

1720
01:21:04,260 --> 01:21:09,260
that I would love to get ahead on and start understanding before

1721
01:21:09,260 --> 01:21:12,260
I actually see my first like patient, you know.

1722
01:21:12,260 --> 01:21:13,260
Yeah.

1723
01:21:13,260 --> 01:21:16,260
I think like so many Dallas students from cyber, they basically

1724
01:21:16,260 --> 01:21:19,260
just said like every little thing that you do there, you know,

1725
01:21:19,260 --> 01:21:21,260
it's like just a check on a patient.

1726
01:21:21,260 --> 01:21:23,260
You have to like get a very good job.

1727
01:21:23,260 --> 01:21:25,260
So like it just takes forever.

1728
01:21:25,260 --> 01:21:27,260
Like appointments take like three hours for that reason.

1729
01:21:27,260 --> 01:21:28,260
Oh yeah.

1730
01:21:28,260 --> 01:21:32,260
Our appointments are three hours, morning, afternoon, and evening.

1731
01:21:32,260 --> 01:21:34,260
So you got your 9 a.m. to 12.

1732
01:21:34,260 --> 01:21:35,260
Yeah.

1733
01:21:35,260 --> 01:21:38,260
One to four and four to seven.

1734
01:21:38,260 --> 01:21:39,260
Right.

1735
01:21:39,260 --> 01:21:43,260
So pretty much three hour appointments vary.

1736
01:21:43,260 --> 01:21:47,260
Everything is longer, but you know, it's fine because at the

1737
01:21:47,260 --> 01:21:51,260
end of the day, you could be organized, you can set yourself up.

1738
01:21:51,260 --> 01:21:53,260
You can do a lot of things, do it well.

1739
01:21:53,260 --> 01:21:57,260
And three hours, honestly, it seems like a long time, but it's not.

1740
01:21:57,260 --> 01:21:58,260
Learning.

1741
01:21:58,260 --> 01:21:59,260
Yeah.

1742
01:21:59,260 --> 01:22:00,260
Yeah.

1743
01:22:00,260 --> 01:22:04,260
You know, half the time you're just like filling out forms.

1744
01:22:04,260 --> 01:22:05,260
Being out.

1745
01:22:05,260 --> 01:22:06,260
Sure.

1746
01:22:06,260 --> 01:22:09,260
You may not feel confident in your hand skills yet.

1747
01:22:09,260 --> 01:22:10,260
Right.

1748
01:22:10,260 --> 01:22:11,260
You know what I mean?

1749
01:22:11,260 --> 01:22:12,260
And it might take you longer to do things.

1750
01:22:12,260 --> 01:22:14,260
And there's no shame in that.

1751
01:22:14,260 --> 01:22:17,260
You know, so that's our system.

1752
01:22:17,260 --> 01:22:18,260
It's at least so far.

1753
01:22:18,260 --> 01:22:21,260
I mean, obviously there's a lot more depth into things.

1754
01:22:21,260 --> 01:22:25,260
And we could talk about it, you know, for hours, to be honest, but I

1755
01:22:25,260 --> 01:22:30,260
think from a pre-dentalist perspective, for the school I go to,

1756
01:22:30,260 --> 01:22:35,260
this is how the system is like set up, you know, and I call

1757
01:22:35,260 --> 01:22:37,260
it, like culture and community is really important.

1758
01:22:37,260 --> 01:22:38,260
You know what I mean?

1759
01:22:38,260 --> 01:22:41,260
And you got to be in a place that sets you up for success.

1760
01:22:41,260 --> 01:22:42,260
Right.

1761
01:22:42,260 --> 01:22:48,260
I think that's, that's, I mean, maybe it's a pre-dental, it might be hard

1762
01:22:48,260 --> 01:22:53,260
to visualize what that is until you step in the building and you see

1763
01:22:53,260 --> 01:22:54,260
some stuff.

1764
01:22:54,260 --> 01:22:56,260
But like, I guess as best you can.

1765
01:22:56,260 --> 01:23:00,260
I mean, do you recommend just like looking up the school's website,

1766
01:23:00,260 --> 01:23:02,260
kind of getting a feel of talking to students?

1767
01:23:02,260 --> 01:23:03,260
I guess is the best way, obviously.

1768
01:23:03,260 --> 01:23:04,260
But.

1769
01:23:04,260 --> 01:23:05,260
Yeah.

1770
01:23:05,260 --> 01:23:08,260
I mean, even if you get it, like, let's say you're just applying to

1771
01:23:08,260 --> 01:23:10,260
school as you want to just be accepted somewhere.

1772
01:23:10,260 --> 01:23:12,260
Let's say you get like two acceptances.

1773
01:23:12,260 --> 01:23:17,260
Contact your admissions office, ask questions, go there in person if

1774
01:23:17,260 --> 01:23:22,260
you can, and they're more than happy to give you stats.

1775
01:23:22,260 --> 01:23:25,260
I mean, in our presentation day for our interview, because we have a

1776
01:23:25,260 --> 01:23:29,260
presentation day and then we also used to be all one day, like when

1777
01:23:29,260 --> 01:23:33,260
we were in person for interviews, you have your presentation and then

1778
01:23:33,260 --> 01:23:36,260
you have lunch and then you have your one-on-one interview.

1779
01:23:36,260 --> 01:23:37,260
Right?

1780
01:23:37,260 --> 01:23:40,260
Now it's like a presentation day, but my point is during that day,

1781
01:23:40,260 --> 01:23:43,260
they told us their graduation race, they told us like what's going on,

1782
01:23:43,260 --> 01:23:47,260
the diversity in the class, and these things matter.

1783
01:23:47,260 --> 01:23:48,260
You know what I mean?

1784
01:23:48,260 --> 01:23:49,260
Yeah.

1785
01:23:49,260 --> 01:23:53,260
So, ask the right questions.

1786
01:23:53,260 --> 01:23:56,260
I guess you got to know what questions to ask too, because as a

1787
01:23:56,260 --> 01:23:59,260
people, I didn't know what to, like, well, I just want to get it.

1788
01:23:59,260 --> 01:24:02,260
You know, worried about like, oh, I'm going to get it.

1789
01:24:02,260 --> 01:24:05,260
I'm going to be like, oh, what did you do three years?

1790
01:24:05,260 --> 01:24:09,260
Yeah, because honestly, in any school from, you know, the Northeast to the

1791
01:24:09,260 --> 01:24:13,260
West Coast to the South, we have the same science courses.

1792
01:24:13,260 --> 01:24:15,260
We're going to learn the same procedures.

1793
01:24:15,260 --> 01:24:17,260
It's just the systems that are set in place.

1794
01:24:17,260 --> 01:24:19,260
Which school can maximize you as a person?

1795
01:24:19,260 --> 01:24:20,260
Every person is different, right?

1796
01:24:20,260 --> 01:24:22,260
Every person is looking for different things.

1797
01:24:22,260 --> 01:24:25,260
So, find what you're looking for.

1798
01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:29,260
Know what you sort of want to do just to get your, you know, curiosity

1799
01:24:29,260 --> 01:24:34,260
going and your skills go in and see what school best is tailored towards you.

1800
01:24:34,260 --> 01:24:35,260
Yeah.

1801
01:24:35,260 --> 01:24:38,260
I mean, that's the same as the game, I guess.

1802
01:24:38,260 --> 01:24:39,260
You know, if you...

1803
01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:42,260
You guys think about like, when you graduate too, right?

1804
01:24:42,260 --> 01:24:44,260
You have a lot of debt.

1805
01:24:44,260 --> 01:24:45,260
Yeah.

1806
01:24:45,260 --> 01:24:46,260
I was thinking of podcasts.

1807
01:24:46,260 --> 01:24:47,260
It's pretty interesting.

1808
01:24:47,260 --> 01:24:51,260
It was like, the guy was like, I'm very curious to see what this generation

1809
01:24:51,260 --> 01:24:56,260
of dental students are going to be doing, because they have a level of debt

1810
01:24:56,260 --> 01:25:00,260
that has never been experienced before.

1811
01:25:00,260 --> 01:25:04,260
The dentist working today did not have a debt we have, meaning are they going to pay it

1812
01:25:04,260 --> 01:25:05,260
off?

1813
01:25:05,260 --> 01:25:09,260
What are they going to do in different ways?

1814
01:25:09,260 --> 01:25:12,260
They're going to navigate to pay this debt off.

1815
01:25:12,260 --> 01:25:13,260
So, it all starts from the beginning.

1816
01:25:13,260 --> 01:25:17,260
It starts from the moment you step into school, what you're doing to invest in yourself

1817
01:25:17,260 --> 01:25:23,260
to ultimately do amazing work, take care of your community and your patients at the

1818
01:25:23,260 --> 01:25:24,260
highest level.

1819
01:25:24,260 --> 01:25:25,260
Right.

1820
01:25:25,260 --> 01:25:28,260
And then you do rightfully so, get compensated for it.

1821
01:25:28,260 --> 01:25:33,260
So, if you go to a well-respected school and your skills are great, there's no reason

1822
01:25:33,260 --> 01:25:34,260
you should...

1823
01:25:34,260 --> 01:25:39,260
Like, the money is a great representation in a sense of what you have to offer, right?

1824
01:25:39,260 --> 01:25:42,260
Especially when you go in for an associate position.

1825
01:25:42,260 --> 01:25:47,260
So, the name, the respect, I guess, matters at the institution to go to.

1826
01:25:47,260 --> 01:25:48,260
Yeah.

1827
01:25:48,260 --> 01:25:51,260
It's a very well-respected school.

1828
01:25:51,260 --> 01:25:52,260
Yeah.

1829
01:25:52,260 --> 01:25:54,260
So, and that's not easy.

1830
01:25:54,260 --> 01:25:55,260
No.

1831
01:25:55,260 --> 01:25:58,260
But these are all things to keep in mind.

1832
01:25:58,260 --> 01:25:59,260
For sure.

1833
01:25:59,260 --> 01:26:00,260
I mean...

1834
01:26:00,260 --> 01:26:02,260
This has been great.

1835
01:26:02,260 --> 01:26:04,260
I mean, I feel like this is like a really good insight.

1836
01:26:04,260 --> 01:26:05,260
A little different.

1837
01:26:05,260 --> 01:26:06,260
You usually like when I have...

1838
01:26:06,260 --> 01:26:10,260
When we talk about dental school and stuff, it's more like step by step by step by step.

1839
01:26:10,260 --> 01:26:12,260
This has been more of like a...

1840
01:26:12,260 --> 01:26:14,260
What do you call it?

1841
01:26:14,260 --> 01:26:16,260
I mean, it's just been more of like a real...

1842
01:26:16,260 --> 01:26:19,260
Like, you know, it's just been real, I guess, is the way to say it.

1843
01:26:19,260 --> 01:26:20,260
Yeah.

1844
01:26:20,260 --> 01:26:21,260
I mean, behind...

1845
01:26:21,260 --> 01:26:24,260
Because I mean, yeah, because when you look, when I'm looking at you, right, I just see

1846
01:26:24,260 --> 01:26:26,260
that, oh, you're in tough saddle.

1847
01:26:26,260 --> 01:26:31,260
But I'm not seeing what it took to get there and like how hard it was and all the stuff

1848
01:26:31,260 --> 01:26:32,260
you went through and like...

1849
01:26:32,260 --> 01:26:37,260
Like, now it just encompasses the entire...

1850
01:26:37,260 --> 01:26:39,260
Well, what you worked for, you know what I mean?

1851
01:26:39,260 --> 01:26:46,260
Honestly, I guess I was talking to you this way because I didn't really analyze or look

1852
01:26:46,260 --> 01:26:50,260
back at why I'm smoking like this, but I feel like...

1853
01:26:50,260 --> 01:26:55,260
I feel like we don't know why we do things sometimes.

1854
01:26:55,260 --> 01:26:58,260
You know, I feel like we don't know the whole big picture.

1855
01:26:58,260 --> 01:26:59,260
Yeah.

1856
01:26:59,260 --> 01:27:00,260
Why am I doing this?

1857
01:27:00,260 --> 01:27:01,260
Why am I doing these steps for what?

1858
01:27:01,260 --> 01:27:08,260
Okay, then I find out later on, but you know, from the back time I come from and the things

1859
01:27:08,260 --> 01:27:11,260
that I've been through, I just feel like I can share some of the things and bring it all

1860
01:27:11,260 --> 01:27:12,260
together.

1861
01:27:12,260 --> 01:27:18,260
You know, if this is really for you and if Dennis, he's really for you, find out first,

1862
01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:26,260
what it is, honestly, how you're working at real offices, getting that exposure, see

1863
01:27:26,260 --> 01:27:27,260
if it's for you.

1864
01:27:27,260 --> 01:27:30,260
See if you really love this game because this is not a team sport.

1865
01:27:30,260 --> 01:27:33,260
This is an individual sport.

1866
01:27:33,260 --> 01:27:34,980
It's you and the patient.

1867
01:27:34,980 --> 01:27:36,260
It's you, your tools.

1868
01:27:36,260 --> 01:27:39,180
I'm not going to be drilling while you're drilling.

1869
01:27:39,180 --> 01:27:40,180
You know what I mean?

1870
01:27:40,180 --> 01:27:41,180
It's all you.

1871
01:27:41,180 --> 01:27:45,940
It's an individual sport, but you have a community of people that you become close with that

1872
01:27:45,940 --> 01:27:50,900
are on the same mindset as you and you guys work together in a sense.

1873
01:27:50,900 --> 01:27:53,580
You build this like community of excellence.

1874
01:27:53,580 --> 01:27:58,180
So if you're pre-dead watching this, decided this is, this feel is really for you and you

1875
01:27:58,180 --> 01:28:02,940
love it because there are going to be moments that will test that love for the game.

1876
01:28:02,940 --> 01:28:07,940
And you're going to have to make a decision that, no, this is really what I want to do

1877
01:28:07,940 --> 01:28:09,940
and I'm going to go through these failures.

1878
01:28:09,940 --> 01:28:13,380
There's a lot of money involved, a lot of time involved, and a lot of adversity involved,

1879
01:28:13,380 --> 01:28:15,420
and you have to go through all of it.

1880
01:28:15,420 --> 01:28:16,420
You know what I mean?

1881
01:28:16,420 --> 01:28:20,740
Because when you're here, you're going to be paying a lot of money.

1882
01:28:20,740 --> 01:28:24,300
You can't go back honestly because if you leave school, guess what?

1883
01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:29,460
You're a hundred and some thousand dollars and that's a lot of money for any average

1884
01:28:29,460 --> 01:28:30,460
person.

1885
01:28:30,460 --> 01:28:32,060
For me, that's a lot of money as well.

1886
01:28:32,060 --> 01:28:37,700
So surround yourself with people that are also driven and serious about their business.

1887
01:28:37,700 --> 01:28:44,060
Have a balance of life as well, but try to do your best to get across that line.

1888
01:28:44,060 --> 01:28:46,420
And once you're there, don't stop running.

1889
01:28:46,420 --> 01:28:51,380
Be extremely humble, grateful, and hardworking for what you want.

1890
01:28:51,380 --> 01:28:52,380
You see what I'm saying?

1891
01:28:52,380 --> 01:28:53,380
And it's really that simple.

1892
01:28:53,380 --> 01:28:56,780
So, and I say, if I can do it, you can do it 100%.

1893
01:28:56,780 --> 01:28:58,780
You know, there's no doubt.

1894
01:28:58,780 --> 01:29:03,100
This has been a really cool opportunity to do a great interview.

1895
01:29:03,100 --> 01:29:04,780
Yeah, it was super cool.

1896
01:29:04,780 --> 01:29:08,740
I mean, I feel like everyone that listens to this is just going to be like, we're going

1897
01:29:08,740 --> 01:29:12,980
to do a brick wash or after this.

1898
01:29:12,980 --> 01:29:13,980
That's the goal, right?

1899
01:29:13,980 --> 01:29:18,340
Yeah, like my message is to read dental's knowledge.

1900
01:29:18,340 --> 01:29:20,420
Just kind of like, around yourself.

1901
01:29:20,420 --> 01:29:23,140
Don't look at SDN or Reddit or whatever the hell.

1902
01:29:23,140 --> 01:29:24,140
Oh, wait.

1903
01:29:24,140 --> 01:29:26,500
And those are the worst places to get advice.

1904
01:29:26,500 --> 01:29:27,900
Like, yeah, but what?

1905
01:29:27,900 --> 01:29:29,100
Ground myself.

1906
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,660
Reach out to dental students.

1907
01:29:30,660 --> 01:29:32,780
You have Instagram, probably.

1908
01:29:32,780 --> 01:29:35,820
Reach out to dental students, ask them questions, ask them real questions, maybe like call them

1909
01:29:35,820 --> 01:29:37,660
if they were, if you're close with them.

1910
01:29:37,660 --> 01:29:39,700
Look, and build the right connections.

1911
01:29:39,700 --> 01:29:40,700
Yeah.

1912
01:29:40,700 --> 01:29:47,420
Build, build genuine connections, genuine, excuse me, connection with people that can

1913
01:29:47,420 --> 01:29:50,300
help you get to the next step.

1914
01:29:50,300 --> 01:29:54,100
Those people for me were literally, remember how I told you that woman at the, like Barry's

1915
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:57,020
biomedical masters program on fall week?

1916
01:29:57,020 --> 01:30:03,300
That woman and the staff and the teachers and the relationship that I built there have

1917
01:30:03,300 --> 01:30:07,980
got me, have been a huge part of where I am today.

1918
01:30:07,980 --> 01:30:12,380
Good relationships that matter, that are valuable and that will get you to where you need to

1919
01:30:12,380 --> 01:30:13,380
be.

1920
01:30:13,380 --> 01:30:17,300
And honestly, sacrifice everything.

1921
01:30:17,300 --> 01:30:22,180
If you want to be in this field to get in, sacrifice all the other, start from the light

1922
01:30:22,180 --> 01:30:27,820
of the BS that doesn't contribute to your end result.

1923
01:30:27,820 --> 01:30:33,620
You shouldn't be doing things that aren't geared towards where you need to be.

1924
01:30:33,620 --> 01:30:36,500
Ask yourself a simple question before you want to make a decision.

1925
01:30:36,500 --> 01:30:40,900
Should I study tonight or should I go out tonight?

1926
01:30:40,900 --> 01:30:44,620
I can probably study tonight because that's where I get me to where I need to be.

1927
01:30:44,620 --> 01:30:46,620
Everything else can wait.

1928
01:30:46,620 --> 01:30:48,540
That club will always be there.

1929
01:30:48,540 --> 01:30:50,660
That event will happen every year.

1930
01:30:50,660 --> 01:30:55,380
These things will always be there, but this opportunity really is just a window and I

1931
01:30:55,380 --> 01:30:58,020
need to really get in.

1932
01:30:58,020 --> 01:31:00,100
You see what I'm saying?

1933
01:31:00,100 --> 01:31:05,380
So that takes a level of maturity and I think all is put together full circle.

1934
01:31:05,380 --> 01:31:09,820
I feel like this is everything someone really needs to get in because the resources are

1935
01:31:09,820 --> 01:31:12,180
there, the programs are online.

1936
01:31:12,180 --> 01:31:14,820
You just got to buckle down and do it.

1937
01:31:14,820 --> 01:31:19,220
And I think that love is really important because you can listen to this interview and

1938
01:31:19,220 --> 01:31:25,020
hopefully it gives you motivation and it boosts your energy and you go through.

1939
01:31:25,020 --> 01:31:29,180
But there's always so many times you listen to this over and over again or have those

1940
01:31:29,180 --> 01:31:30,500
phone calls or have those.

1941
01:31:30,500 --> 01:31:32,020
You got to have the motivation yourself.

1942
01:31:32,020 --> 01:31:34,500
That fire has to always be lit.

1943
01:31:34,500 --> 01:31:35,860
You got to be there.

1944
01:31:35,860 --> 01:31:40,260
And once you go through yourself because of this, hopefully, that's when you'll know,

1945
01:31:40,260 --> 01:31:41,780
that's when you'll have your foundation.

1946
01:31:41,780 --> 01:31:45,740
And when you get your foundation, that's just going to make you successful.

1947
01:31:45,740 --> 01:31:46,740
Yeah, man.

1948
01:31:46,740 --> 01:31:48,420
And listen, this is not easy.

1949
01:31:48,420 --> 01:31:52,420
I really was like gamer-stressed game and I know right now you're pining and that's

1950
01:31:52,420 --> 01:31:53,420
huge.

1951
01:31:53,420 --> 01:31:56,220
There's so much you have done to get to just this step.

1952
01:31:56,220 --> 01:31:59,500
And you have so much more hopefully coming your way.

1953
01:31:59,500 --> 01:32:00,900
You know what I mean?

1954
01:32:00,900 --> 01:32:03,460
So lock in, set your priorities.

1955
01:32:03,460 --> 01:32:09,900
This takes a certain level of maturity and do not listen to what anyone has to say about

1956
01:32:09,900 --> 01:32:11,700
what you want.

1957
01:32:11,700 --> 01:32:15,260
My parents, because of my stress, even they've always supported me.

1958
01:32:15,260 --> 01:32:20,020
But they're always like, you don't got to do this.

1959
01:32:20,020 --> 01:32:21,020
Even bro, look at this.

1960
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:24,260
Actually, I have this like, look at this letter.

1961
01:32:24,260 --> 01:32:25,260
It says my name on it.

1962
01:32:25,260 --> 01:32:26,580
It's like my mom.

1963
01:32:26,580 --> 01:32:30,780
She slipped this in like underneath my door after my first EAT I took.

1964
01:32:30,780 --> 01:32:32,260
I didn't talk to anyone for a month.

1965
01:32:32,260 --> 01:32:34,140
I was so upset.

1966
01:32:34,140 --> 01:32:37,180
But I still keep this there because-

1967
01:32:37,180 --> 01:32:38,380
Don't remind her.

1968
01:32:38,380 --> 01:32:39,880
100%.

1969
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:40,880
That's crazy.

1970
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:41,880
You still have that.

1971
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:42,880
Still have it.

1972
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:43,880
So long.

1973
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:46,660
She's like three in the morning, very worried.

1974
01:32:46,660 --> 01:32:51,460
But my whole point is like they've also seen what this has done to me at certain moments

1975
01:32:51,460 --> 01:32:54,580
and but I still wanted it.

1976
01:32:54,580 --> 01:32:55,580
Right.

1977
01:32:55,580 --> 01:32:57,700
So don't block out unnecessary stuff.

1978
01:32:57,700 --> 01:32:58,700
Stay locked in.

1979
01:32:58,700 --> 01:32:59,700
Stay focused.

1980
01:32:59,700 --> 01:33:03,020
Don't worry about temporary money, like job and stuff.

1981
01:33:03,020 --> 01:33:04,980
There are always ways to get loans.

1982
01:33:04,980 --> 01:33:05,980
They are loans.

1983
01:33:05,980 --> 01:33:09,020
You got to pay it back, but you're in a field that thankfully you can pay it back.

1984
01:33:09,020 --> 01:33:11,420
So get to the finish line.

1985
01:33:11,420 --> 01:33:12,420
Just a process.

1986
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100% every day.

1987
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And listen, build self-confidence.

1988
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Yeah.

1989
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Because guess what?

1990
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When you're here, you're going to need as much like obviously always say humble, but

1991
01:33:23,540 --> 01:33:27,740
be extremely confident in who you are and what your identity is and what you're all

1992
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about.

1993
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And you're going to be apologetic because you are who you are.

1994
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You're doing the right thing.

1995
01:33:33,340 --> 01:33:35,980
You got to go ahead on your shoulders.

1996
01:33:35,980 --> 01:33:37,540
And that's all that matters.

1997
01:33:37,540 --> 01:33:44,620
You know, if you make mistakes, you learn from them and you try not to do it again.

1998
01:33:44,620 --> 01:33:50,220
So always being humble allows you to learn more, engage in more knowledge and be more

1999
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curious and build great relationships and be great at what you do.

2000
01:33:55,820 --> 01:33:56,820
So all comes full circle.

2001
01:33:56,820 --> 01:34:03,220
Because you don't see it now, it doesn't mean you won't understand why it happened later.

2002
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So be around long enough to understand why things happen.

2003
01:34:08,260 --> 01:34:10,340
And you look back and you're like, oh, I see it.

2004
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Yeah.

2005
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And that's just the name of the game, I guess.

2006
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So whatever it's like.

2007
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I mean, dude, thanks for coming on.

2008
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It's been like really eye-opening, just refreshing to get this perspective that you have.

2009
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And that's awesome.

2010
01:34:22,860 --> 01:34:27,660
So, only thanks for coming on, I really appreciate it, and while we talk soon, I'm thinking we're

2011
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in talks.

2012
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I don't know if that's that.

2013
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What's up?

2014
01:34:30,660 --> 01:34:31,660
What's up, mom?

2015
01:34:31,660 --> 01:34:32,660
What's up?

2016
01:34:32,660 --> 01:34:52,180
What's up?