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All right, welcome back to the podcast, everyone.

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On this episode, we're gonna hear from the creators

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of the popular Let's Learn Croatian podcast,

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Uncle Mike, Tony D, and DJ Moe.

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Living in Southern California,

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we're gonna hear about their Croatian connection

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and the story behind the Let's Learn Croatian podcast.

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Guys, thanks for coming on the All Things Croatia podcast.

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Hey, thanks for having us.

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Yeah, thank you for having us so much.

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Yeah, of course.

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Excited to do a little sort of cross promotion here.

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I think you guys are the first rival podcast I've had on.

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Oh, yeah, we're all teammates here.

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Let's hope we're teammates.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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I'm totally kidding, totally kidding.

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Love what you guys are doing.

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The Croatian language is so tough.

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I mean, I literally came, moved to Croatia

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just to learn Croatian. Wow.

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So, I'm excited to learn a little bit more

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about what you guys are doing.

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But sort of before you get into that,

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can you tell us a little bit about yourselves

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and your Croatian background?

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Yeah, I'll go first.

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I'm Uncle Mike.

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Yeah, my parents were both born and raised

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in former Yugoslavia, which is now Croatia,

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and they moved here to the States when they were younger.

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I'm a first generation born here,

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grew up around Croatians mostly,

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learned how to speak Croatian

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before I learned how to speak English.

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So, kindergarten was a scary first day of learning English.

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So, Croatian was a big part of my life.

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A lot of family, a lot of friends

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kind of growing up in that environment.

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And yeah, go to Croatia as much as I can.

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I still have some aunts and uncles over there,

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some cousins, extended family.

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So yeah, definitely a big part of my life.

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Awesome, awesome.

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Well, I'm not Croatian.

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Yes.

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I grew up in this town,

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in this town being an offshoot of Los Angeles, California

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called San Pedro,

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and essentially the huge Croatian population.

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So, I went going to public schools

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and having all my friends being a mixture

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of a lot of people,

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but the majority of them being Croatian.

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I met this guy.

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I also married a Croatian.

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There you go.

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So, I'm definitely in the mix and in the family now.

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I got jumped in, so to speak.

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So, so far so good.

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I've been hearing about Croatia most of my life

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from a lot of my friends.

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I got to meet their parents and their beautiful people

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and all their family, extended families.

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And I've been hearing about Croatia for a very long time.

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So, I was finally happy to see it in person

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a couple of years ago.

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So, yeah.

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Well, I think I'm the furthest away from Croatia

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or the furthest away from it all.

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I actually met these gentlemen a long time ago

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and that was my first introduction to Croatian,

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the culture, the language, the food, everything then.

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And then with this podcast here,

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and I did, was born here in Southern California,

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but had nothing to do with the language and culture

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and idea of Croatia or Croatians themselves

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until Uncle Mike here.

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But that's my character as well as being real life,

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Tony D on the podcast.

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I get to learn everything and mess it all up.

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Yeah, a new learner, definitely a fresh learner,

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fresh learner, no background to it, right Tony?

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Not at all.

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Well, I mean, it's super helpful, especially,

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I mean, cause if you teach Croatian

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and you're around Croatian and do you,

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the things are obvious for someone who's just learning,

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it's definitely helpful to have someone

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ask those kinds of questions during the podcast

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and things like that.

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You mentioned, you guys are in San Pedro

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and of course there's a huge Croatian population over there

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before the podcast or aside from the podcast

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and even current stuff, were you guys,

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or are you guys involved at all in the community over there?

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Me personally, no.

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I mean, I've definitely have some family,

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some distant friends, like there's a Croatian hall

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on 9th street and it's actually between Gaffi and Grand

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on 9th street, it's actually a,

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this is called Croatian Place or Croatian Way,

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it's dedicated to where the hall that was built there.

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A lot of Croatians will have their festas there,

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whether it's Independence Day or it's Komiska Noć

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or I think they have lunches every Wednesday

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where a lot of the diaspora will come through,

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whether it's the older generation, younger generation.

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I'm personally not super connected to it,

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besides the friends, close friends and family I have,

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but Moses, have you ever been to Croatian hall?

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Yeah, I've been there.

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Yeah, so a place I pass by,

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but I personally don't dabble too much.

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Yeah, my biggest connection is this podcast and my family.

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That's kind of where, as far as it goes,

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as far as the podcast concerned, we definitely-

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Oh, the World Cup thing.

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They had a whole block party.

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Yeah, they did.

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Massive down there.

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Yeah, that was a wrap.

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I'm sure it was crazy over there.

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That's awesome.

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I mean, you mentioned the podcast again,

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and that's sort of what we're on here

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to talk about the Let's Learn Croatia podcast.

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When did you guys start that

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and how did that sort of come about?

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Story goes, it was my wife and I and my kids,

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because I got two kids,

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we were gonna head out to Croatia for the first,

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my first time, their first time.

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So basically my wife was gonna introduce me to the family,

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what have you, this is after we're married,

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obviously with kids now.

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And so this guy, Uncle Mike here,

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he's out of the blue, just hits me up,

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he's like, hey, you're going in a month or so,

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you should check out these lessons I did with Tony,

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like years ago for his own niece and nephew,

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for their own trips.

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And so this is the old content he's given me,

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and he only gave me, I think, three audio files.

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just very, very basic, hello, good morning,

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good afternoon, good evening, thank you, please,

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just super, super simple stuff.

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And, you know, like kind of experimenting with microphones

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and that was all it was.

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And then- It's been great.

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If you're going to Croatia here, you know, and then-

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This may help you, like you may be able to find a bathroom

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or like you may be able to say hello and good night,

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you know, that's super simple stuff.

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And for me, I was like, I heard it and I was like,

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well, this is super helpful, but it's very, very small.

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Like, and there wasn't enough for me to kind of like,

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fully like, like once I said, don't run down to somebody

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and they hit me back with something else,

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I was like, screwed.

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I was like, where do I go with this?

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Not only am I disappointing them, I look dumb,

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I can't be able to go any further than that.

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And so I asked for more.

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And so I, after a while I demanded more

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because it took a lot of arm twisting

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for this guy here, Uncle Mike.

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Tunnel beat was definitely a bit more like, yeah, I'm down.

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Yeah. You know?

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Anything to hang out with these guys.

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So- Yeah.

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So by the way, we've all known each other for 20 years.

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So it's just another opportunity for us to hang out.

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But that's kind of where the podcast came from

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is the inception of like, I want to learn more.

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I want my kids to know more.

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And obviously living in this community,

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we know a lot of people in the same boat.

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Their kids have not heard enough of it,

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don't get exposure to it.

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And we want to continue to do that for them,

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especially in a roundabout way where it's easy to absorb

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and open to all.

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And that's the biggest thing.

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I don't want a lot of podcasts out there.

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People, there are a lot of language out there

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that is not fitting for a child to listen to, in my opinion.

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So we wanted to keep it as clean as possible.

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Like I want a parent driving their kids to school

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and they could turn it on and not worry that

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uncle Mike's going to drop an F-bomb

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or I'm going to say something really negative.

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You know, if we're not doing that on this podcast,

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you just want to make it open to all.

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So a lot of positivity and everything through learning.

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Did those lessons help at all when you went to Croatia?

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Yes, they did.

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Yes, they did.

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I will say that I still get to a point where I can't get passed.

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You know, there is that speed bump that I hit

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and sometimes they can't get over it.

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Sometimes they can.

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And a lot of times it was just information that I knew

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that I didn't have available in my brain at that very second.

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I remember the first, like my last visit,

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because I've gone three times now, my last visit, my aunt's,

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no, no, my wife's uncle, he was telling me, he was like,

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he's like, oh, you came, you know, I was like,

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I'm not going to repeat it for you because I'll butcher it.

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But he's like, oh, you came and it's so hot.

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Did you bring the sun with you?

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And I was like, Sun Chen, Sun Chen, Sun Chen.

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That's all I could do in my mind.

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I'm like, what is he talking about?

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And it just, I couldn't connect it.

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I just got off a plane and I felt really bad.

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But I got the most of up until that point.

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And I was like, man, it's sunny, duh.

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You know, for me personally, I find it's a lot easier to,

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oh, sorry, I find it's a lot easier to understand

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when someone is talking to someone else that I'm with,

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I'm listening to them talk,

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but then when someone's talking to me directly,

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I feel like I process slower or I free up a bit.

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Is it because you have it in another language prior

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and then you have to transpose it in your mind?

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Well, yeah, yeah, that's it.

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Yeah, it's not automatic enough yet.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

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Yeah, well, so from the original audio clips,

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so you guys, that wasn't with puppets

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or anything at that point, or was it?

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No, no.

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So I think I did a few lessons for my nieces and nephews.

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I might've been close to 10 years ago,

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and then kind of handed them out to whoever needed them.

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And then in fall of, I think you went summer of 2019,

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then we started the podcast in the fall of 2019.

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And then as we've kind of been going with it

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and let's give it a try, and then someone's like,

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hey, how about a YouTube with puppets?

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Because we were like, not really crazy.

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I wasn't crazy about putting, let's say,

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my face to it right away.

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And the puppets with our YouTube channel

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is like a fun way for kids to see language being spoken.

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And it's more of, my personal thing is our audience

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is our Moses's children.

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And whoever gets, everyone's gonna get the most out of that.

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Because if you're gonna do like simple conversation

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for children, it'll definitely translate for everyone

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as well, adults too.

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So.

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Myself especially.

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And Tony's included in that, yeah.

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And Tony Beats.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, it's a great visual way

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because you see the words spelled out.

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And obviously they don't sound exactly the way they look,

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but you kind of get the understanding.

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And especially where things are silent

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or where things have a little hat on it,

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and it's weird.

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Yeah.

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It makes sense.

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Yeah, definitely being able to visualize

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the words that you're seeing.

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Well, I mean, you guys have a pretty big audience

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on YouTube.

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You have like 4,000 and something followers,

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I think on YouTube.

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You guys are also, what you released as audio as well

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on Spotify and Apple podcasts and those sort of things.

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Correct, yes.

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Yeah, so we do a podcast twice a month.

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We try to do, we started the YouTube channel

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maybe a year after.

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So we're trying to steadily playing catch up

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with just, let's say the YouTube channel

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is just the lesson portion of our podcast.

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So the podcast is gonna have our mail bag

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of people that write to us.

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We'll do a lesson portion.

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DJ Mo does a super slavka report,

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kind of a cultural report,

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a bunch of goofy dad jokes mixed in there.

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And so the YouTube was a little bit more refined

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on just the lesson section.

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So I see.

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So for like cultural report,

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that's about Croatia things going on over there or?

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Yeah, it's essentially a report on,

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super slavka report.

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It's basically anything that I find interesting

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that is connected to Croatian in some shape or form,

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whether it be sciency,

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whether it be history based kind of stuff.

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The hikes that you were talking about?

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Even trails that have gone on and things of that nature

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that I think are interesting that someone

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that may not know too much as a kid,

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would go, oh, that's cool.

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Cause there's so many things Croatia's been,

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touched upon by many,

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I would say empires over the years, right?

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You got your Byzantines, your Romans, the Greeks,

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and it goes way back and there's so much history there.

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And there's a little bit of a story for each one.

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And you just gotta pick one out and they're all amazing.

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So I always find them super interesting.

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So I try to make them as interesting for everybody else

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and just really report on something that caught my eye,

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but I think would catch somebody else

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if they heard about it.

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Me too, that ghost story trail thing.

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Oh yeah.

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That stuck in my brain.

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The underwater aqueduct river thing,

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it's stuck in my brain.

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I mean, there's so much cool stuff

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that I've never been to Croatia.

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So that's obviously like ultimately my trip,

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my dream trip.

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Because of all the things that I've heard in the,

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super sloth report,

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I have a huge list that I probably never leave

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so I can complete all of that.

339
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But yeah, also food, also sports.

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We just talked about the 98 World Cup team

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in our last episode.

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So yeah, everything and anything, Croatian.

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Artists, sculptors, musicians, big time, everything.

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Okay, so if you only want the language lessons,

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you can go on YouTube for that and watch the puppet show.

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But if you want the whole thing, culture, music,

347
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a little bit about everything,

348
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the full podcast is available.

349
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Yeah, yeah, most definitely.

350
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Awesome, well, I'll let you guys shout that out right now

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before I forget where you can sort of find

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what the YouTube handle is,

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where you can find the podcast,

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any other sort of social medias.

355
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Sure thing, yeah.

356
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YouTube is basically anywhere you go and find your,

357
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I'm sorry, podcast is either iTunes, Spotify,

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Apple Play, whatever it is, but it's Let's Learn Croatian.

359
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That's our podcast name, right?

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So that's kind of all up there.

361
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We have a website called let'slearncroatian.com.

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Facebook is LLC pod.

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Instagram also LLC pod.

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YouTube channel is another, it's Let's Learn Croatian

365
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and you'll see our little lessons and you'll see,

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as you see in the video here,

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if whoever's watching the video, we have three puppets.

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It'll have a nice subtitle mix there of all the lessons

369
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about the lesson sections that we do.

370
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Yeah.

371
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Awesome, awesome.

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And I'll drop links, of course, in the episode description

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so you guys can go and click on those as well.

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Excellent.

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Someone mentioned the report, or no, not the report,

376
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where you open fan mail or mail from-

377
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That's Tony, yeah.

378
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Yeah, well, can you talk a little,

379
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because I wanted to ask, how do you guys measure

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the success of the podcast?

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Or what makes it worth it for you guys?

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Do you hear from people saying,

383
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oh, I'm learning so much or thank you so much,

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this and this?

385
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I think the biggest, I guess, heartwarming,

386
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feel-good moments have been anyone learning.

387
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I mean, honestly, it's been an amazing sight to read.

388
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People from all around the world that stumble upon us

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that have been recommended to them,

390
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but it's all about family and history

391
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and being able to reconnect or connect further

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with family and whether it's their history,

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their lineage of being from Croatia,

394
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but now in Brazil or New Zealand or wherever.

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Canada, Argentina, Australia, Indonesia.

396
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Yeah, seriously, all over the world and in random places.

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Wherever they migrated from, hearing from them,

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at least being able to say, this has inspired us

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to learn more about our history, our heritage,

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our family lineage.

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And it's wonderful.

402
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It's wonderful to see where everyone has gone

403
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and migrated to.

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So then reel them back in and say, hey, remember Croatia?

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Remember family?

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Remember where we came from?

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And they share that with us.

408
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And that's really nice to see that.

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Even if it's their first episode or their 98th episode,

410
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they're still interacting with us and letting us know

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that they're still listening and it's inspiring.

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It's a really cool, that's success to us, definitely.

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Yeah, getting those kinds of emails are fun, definitely.

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Yeah, for sure.

415
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Yeah, that's an awesome feeling.

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I mean, I feel the same way,

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because that's the goal of this podcast as well,

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what I'm trying to do as well.

419
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But yeah, that's just the best feeling

420
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because I as well am trying to reconnect with my roots

421
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and become closer to the Croatian language,

422
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Croatian culture and all that.

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So yeah, really, it's heartwarming

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when you hear that others are going through the same thing

425
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because of what you're doing.

426
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Oh yeah.

427
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Yeah.

428
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It's great though that you're able to be so inspired

429
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to move there and be within it.

430
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That's a big step.

431
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That's a huge, big step.

432
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Yeah.

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Yeah, well it started smaller.

434
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It gets you experience all of that.

435
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Yeah.

436
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Yeah.

437
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How small?

438
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I was gonna come for three months originally.

439
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Okay.

440
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A three month language program.

441
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And now I've been here a little over two years.

442
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Oh wow.

443
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That's awesome.

444
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Yeah, awesome.

445
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Very cool.

446
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Just kept month by month, I kept extending

447
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and then all of a sudden now I'm here.

448
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Yeah, yeah, wow.

449
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But you're in Zagreb you said, right?

450
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Yeah, I'm in Zagreb.

451
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Yeah, I mean, it's super nice.

452
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In my opinion, the best sort of all-around,

453
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year-round city in Croatia.

454
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I see.

455
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Because the coast of course is beautiful.

456
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And of course during the summer,

457
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I'm gonna go down to the coast,

458
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but the winter and stuff,

459
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it's a little bit slow down there.

460
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The city's nice.

461
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Yeah, definitely.

462
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Which is nice too, but I don't know.

463
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For me, I'm used to being from LA.

464
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I'm sort of used to the city life a little bit more.

465
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So for me, Zagreb's a little closer to home.

466
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Beautiful.

467
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I believe that I'll get a video from you guys, right?

468
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That I'm attaching to the end of this podcast?

469
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Yeah.

470
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Yes.

471
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Just so I'll alert people right now who are listening,

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who will be listening,

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there's gonna be a video here at the end of this.

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And before we cut to that,

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I just got a couple sort of fun questions for you guys.

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Sure thing.

477
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Quick questions.

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One piece of advice you can give for learning Croatian.

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I'll do that is keep it simple.

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Cause I remember learning German in school,

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let's say college,

482
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and then going to Germany and only having like a very

483
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like book rooted conversational way of speaking.

484
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And I was looked at like I was like, who is this guy?

485
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You know, like talking like a professor to everybody,

486
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but Croatian, yeah, like learning a little bit of dialect,

487
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a little bit of slang is very, very helpful

488
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with connecting to people big time.

489
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Big time.

490
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I agree.

491
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Yeah, definitely agree.

492
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This is for all three of you.

493
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Favorite, well, I guess for two of you right now,

494
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favorite food when you're in Croatia.

495
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I believe that's Tony D who will soon soon go to the parade.

496
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Hopefully.

497
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Go ahead, DJ Mai got mine.

498
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Oh, go there.

499
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Well, I mean, whenever I go,

500
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I know I'm gonna have to have Burek.

501
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You know, so I'm gonna have to have Burek

502
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and I'm gonna have to have a Rajnici, right?

503
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So that's kind of the barbecue is that pork

504
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and then with French fries.

505
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And then for me over there,

506
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the big thing is the fresh vegetables and the fresh fruit.

507
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Such a different quality of food versus the stuff

508
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that we get in Southern California.

509
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That's coming from everywhere over there.

510
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That's such a different flavor

511
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where I feel like the freshness is I'm all in.

512
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I'm all in over there.

513
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Yeah. That's huge.

514
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That's an amazing treat.

515
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Is it that I joke about it.

516
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I'm like the farm to table thing is legit over there.

517
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Yeah. That's all they do.

518
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Yeah. Yeah.

519
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They just go in the garden with a couple of sheets,

520
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with a pair of shears and then bring something back

521
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and they cook it up.

522
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But for food wise, like I'm gonna reflect mainly

523
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on what like my wife's aunt and uncle make for us.

524
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A lot of times it's the salata pomodori.

525
00:19:14,780 --> 00:19:18,500
It's so amazing that the tomatoes are just like,

526
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this guy makes fun of me.

527
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He's like the only tomatoes that you know

528
00:19:20,380 --> 00:19:22,460
what he prior to going to Croatia was ketchup.

529
00:19:22,460 --> 00:19:24,300
And you know, he's not that far off.

530
00:19:26,300 --> 00:19:28,620
The pomodori over there are just phenomenal.

531
00:19:28,620 --> 00:19:31,420
And then also another thing that my family over there

532
00:19:31,420 --> 00:19:34,020
would make or will make or undo make is

533
00:19:34,020 --> 00:19:34,860
they go on tic pizza.

534
00:19:34,860 --> 00:19:37,180
There's like these little pancakes that are,

535
00:19:37,180 --> 00:19:38,020
they're like fried.

536
00:19:38,020 --> 00:19:38,860
What would you call them?

537
00:19:38,860 --> 00:19:39,700
Dreaded squawk.

538
00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:40,540
Dreaded squawk.

539
00:19:40,540 --> 00:19:41,380
Dreaded and fried.

540
00:19:41,380 --> 00:19:42,220
Dreaded and fried.

541
00:19:42,220 --> 00:19:43,420
Oh, it's so bonkers good.

542
00:19:43,420 --> 00:19:44,420
Oh my God.

543
00:19:44,420 --> 00:19:47,260
And then any of the wine that my,

544
00:19:47,260 --> 00:19:48,300
that they make over there too,

545
00:19:48,300 --> 00:19:49,620
that they're their homemade wine.

546
00:19:49,620 --> 00:19:50,980
Oh, so great.

547
00:19:50,980 --> 00:19:51,820
So good.

548
00:19:51,820 --> 00:19:52,660
Yeah.

549
00:19:52,660 --> 00:19:54,020
I feel everything just hits different over there.

550
00:19:54,020 --> 00:19:54,860
Everything really does.

551
00:19:54,860 --> 00:19:55,700
It really does.

552
00:19:55,700 --> 00:19:56,540
It really does.

553
00:19:58,580 --> 00:20:00,540
What, here's another one for the two of you.

554
00:20:00,540 --> 00:20:03,100
What makes Croatia so special?

555
00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:03,940
I mean, I guess all three.

556
00:20:03,940 --> 00:20:05,820
I mean, you're, Tony, you're involved, you know,

557
00:20:05,820 --> 00:20:07,020
in the culture too as well.

558
00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:10,020
And the diaspora over there in San Pedro.

559
00:20:10,020 --> 00:20:11,660
I mean, for you guys, what, you know,

560
00:20:11,660 --> 00:20:12,980
what makes it so special?

561
00:20:12,980 --> 00:20:15,100
You know, why are you guys doing what you're doing?

562
00:20:16,420 --> 00:20:18,980
Oh, I guess I could say what makes it special

563
00:20:18,980 --> 00:20:21,540
from the outside looking in

564
00:20:21,540 --> 00:20:24,980
is the dynamics of the culture.

565
00:20:24,980 --> 00:20:28,420
I know being a like Mexican heritage,

566
00:20:29,420 --> 00:20:31,380
there's culture there as well,

567
00:20:31,380 --> 00:20:33,180
but seeing like the overlap

568
00:20:33,180 --> 00:20:36,580
and then also seeing like the passion that everyone has.

569
00:20:36,580 --> 00:20:38,660
Plus there's just, there's so much

570
00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:42,220
in such a small space of a country.

571
00:20:42,220 --> 00:20:45,700
So seeing all of that in there, it's just exciting.

572
00:20:47,420 --> 00:20:51,300
I think for me, obviously it's family for me, you know,

573
00:20:51,300 --> 00:20:53,980
and there's a lot of memories from childhood,

574
00:20:53,980 --> 00:20:57,580
but one of the like the special things for me for Croatia,

575
00:20:57,580 --> 00:20:59,140
especially you probably could write with this,

576
00:20:59,140 --> 00:21:01,780
coming from Los Angeles and going over there,

577
00:21:01,780 --> 00:21:03,180
especially Dalmatian coast,

578
00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:07,020
just the speed of life is way slower.

579
00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:08,860
It's like every day is more appreciated

580
00:21:08,860 --> 00:21:11,060
versus kind of powering through the day

581
00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:12,980
and trying to accomplish as much as you can here

582
00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:14,060
in the States.

583
00:21:14,060 --> 00:21:17,980
So over there, I do respect that more where free time,

584
00:21:17,980 --> 00:21:21,540
you know, like social time is a little bit more cherished

585
00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:24,580
versus let's say here in the States, you know,

586
00:21:24,580 --> 00:21:26,260
like traffic jams.

587
00:21:26,260 --> 00:21:29,500
When the tourists hit hard in Croatia, it can be bad,

588
00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:32,980
but you know, LA traffic is just a lot more important

589
00:21:32,980 --> 00:21:34,420
in everyday part of life.

590
00:21:34,420 --> 00:21:36,620
So I do appreciate that so much

591
00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:39,500
of the slower lifestyle, definitely.

592
00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:42,180
Yeah, these two guys got some really good ones in there.

593
00:21:42,180 --> 00:21:43,620
The only thing I could connect with again

594
00:21:43,620 --> 00:21:45,060
is the family thing, you know,

595
00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:49,700
like I grew up similar to Tony, Mexican heritage, you know,

596
00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:50,820
I'd go to Mexico as a kid

597
00:21:50,820 --> 00:21:52,620
and I'd enjoy being with the family

598
00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:55,620
and really kind of pulling it all in,

599
00:21:55,620 --> 00:21:58,380
like all the sights, the sounds, the smells and everything.

600
00:21:58,380 --> 00:21:59,380
And then going to Croatia

601
00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:01,380
and just having that same mentality as a kid,

602
00:22:01,380 --> 00:22:03,220
like mindset, just soaking it all that in

603
00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:05,780
and just being part of it, like, oh wow,

604
00:22:05,780 --> 00:22:08,380
it's cleaner than where I go to.

605
00:22:08,380 --> 00:22:10,060
I went to Mexico City as a kid,

606
00:22:10,060 --> 00:22:12,460
my eyes would tear getting off the plane just from the smoke.

607
00:22:12,460 --> 00:22:14,540
So very different going to Croatia,

608
00:22:14,540 --> 00:22:17,140
but the beauty, the nature, I love it all.

609
00:22:17,140 --> 00:22:18,700
It's such a great, you know, visit.

610
00:22:18,700 --> 00:22:20,500
And there's parts of me that go,

611
00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:21,780
oh, this reminds me of Mexico.

612
00:22:21,780 --> 00:22:23,220
Oh, this reminds me of Mexico as a kid, you know,

613
00:22:23,220 --> 00:22:26,020
all these things, seeing my kids being,

614
00:22:26,020 --> 00:22:27,620
enjoying it the way I enjoy things

615
00:22:27,620 --> 00:22:29,380
and not like, you know, on my journey.

616
00:22:29,380 --> 00:22:31,220
So that's like me living through them a little bit.

617
00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:32,460
So that's also really special.

618
00:22:32,460 --> 00:22:33,380
Yeah.

619
00:22:33,380 --> 00:22:34,220
Awesome.

620
00:22:34,220 --> 00:22:35,660
Wow. Yeah. Great answers, you guys.

621
00:22:35,660 --> 00:22:36,660
That's awesome.

622
00:22:36,660 --> 00:22:39,740
Before I let you go, I've got one more question for you

623
00:22:39,740 --> 00:22:41,140
and then stay tuned everyone,

624
00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:41,980
because we're going to hit you

625
00:22:41,980 --> 00:22:44,580
with the video coming right after.

626
00:22:44,580 --> 00:22:49,100
But your favorite, no, artist, Croatian word,

627
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,500
most difficult Croatian word or favorite?

628
00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:53,420
Your choice.

629
00:22:53,420 --> 00:22:55,860
Oh, Tony, I know what your favorite is.

630
00:22:59,140 --> 00:22:59,980
Kiki Riki.

631
00:22:59,980 --> 00:23:03,500
Well, I mean, obviously, I was thinking hardest.

632
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:05,460
No, I mean, they're all hard to me, but.

633
00:23:06,580 --> 00:23:08,540
Kiki Riki for sure.

634
00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:10,500
It's a fun word to say.

635
00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:12,540
I mean, there's a lot of fun words

636
00:23:12,540 --> 00:23:15,980
that I've noticed in the language, but.

637
00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:18,820
Hard words you're probably not going to remember

638
00:23:18,820 --> 00:23:19,660
how to pronounce.

639
00:23:19,660 --> 00:23:23,220
I mean, they all just fly out of my brain.

640
00:23:24,180 --> 00:23:25,900
Yeah, there's a lot of tongue twisters

641
00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:28,900
and a lot of crazily spouted words

642
00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:31,780
that it's crazy.

643
00:23:31,780 --> 00:23:35,900
It's smordljivo, that's one of my favorite ones, stinky.

644
00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:37,660
Like they got the smordljivo marked

645
00:23:37,660 --> 00:23:39,420
and it's a bug called the stinky bug.

646
00:23:39,420 --> 00:23:41,940
Smordljivo, stinky, that's one of my favorites.

647
00:23:43,860 --> 00:23:46,420
I just like saying svarno for everything.

648
00:23:46,420 --> 00:23:48,780
Especially when like my in-laws are over at a house

649
00:23:48,780 --> 00:23:50,340
or I'm at their house and they're speaking to each other

650
00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:51,740
in Croatian and going way too fast

651
00:23:51,740 --> 00:23:54,580
with my ear to pick up and I'll always be like, svarno?

652
00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:57,460
And they both stop and look at each other like,

653
00:23:57,460 --> 00:23:58,820
did he catch all that?

654
00:23:58,820 --> 00:24:00,420
And then I walk away letting them know

655
00:24:00,420 --> 00:24:02,100
that maybe I didn't catch all that.

656
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:03,820
I don't even know what they're talking about,

657
00:24:03,820 --> 00:24:04,900
to be honest sometimes.

658
00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:07,060
So I'll let that pass, but svarno's a good one.

659
00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:07,900
Yeah.

660
00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:08,740
Moje too.

661
00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:09,580
Moje actually helps a lot.

662
00:24:09,580 --> 00:24:10,500
And I say da a lot now.

663
00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:11,940
That's in all my vernacular.

664
00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:13,140
I text people da and they're like,

665
00:24:13,140 --> 00:24:14,180
what are you talking about?

666
00:24:14,180 --> 00:24:15,300
I like to say cekaj.

667
00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:16,140
Cekaj, cekaj.

668
00:24:16,140 --> 00:24:16,980
Cekaj.

669
00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:17,820
Cekaj.

670
00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:19,260
Cekaj is a good one.

671
00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:21,420
I think moje over here is the word that I use

672
00:24:21,420 --> 00:24:22,340
like most frequently.

673
00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:24,340
Like for any other svarmoje, half the time

674
00:24:24,340 --> 00:24:25,940
I don't even know what they're offering.

675
00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:29,580
I think I know what moje is.

676
00:24:29,580 --> 00:24:30,780
Yeah, it's impolite to say no.

677
00:24:30,780 --> 00:24:32,540
So moje kind of covers it all.

678
00:24:32,540 --> 00:24:33,380
Yep.

679
00:24:33,380 --> 00:24:36,340
That was over one time I was at the like cafeteria

680
00:24:36,340 --> 00:24:38,140
over here at the University of Zagreb

681
00:24:38,140 --> 00:24:40,180
and I asked the lady, you know, what are,

682
00:24:40,180 --> 00:24:41,980
I thought they looked like big steaks.

683
00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:43,220
And I was like in the back of the line

684
00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:45,220
and no one was taking them off the rack.

685
00:24:45,220 --> 00:24:46,580
And so by the time I get there,

686
00:24:46,580 --> 00:24:48,340
by the time I get there, they're still there.

687
00:24:48,340 --> 00:24:49,820
I asked the lady in Croatian and you know,

688
00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:50,940
I was like, štaj ovo?

689
00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:51,780
Like, what is this?

690
00:24:51,780 --> 00:24:53,300
I didn't understand what she said.

691
00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:54,860
So I was just like, oh, moje moje.

692
00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:57,780
And I took this and then I looked on the receipt

693
00:24:57,780 --> 00:24:59,540
and I like Google translated what it was

694
00:24:59,540 --> 00:25:00,540
and it was liver.

695
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:02,340
That's why.

696
00:25:02,340 --> 00:25:05,060
I had three huge like juicy liver steaks

697
00:25:05,060 --> 00:25:05,900
and I couldn't eat it.

698
00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:06,740
It was just.

699
00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:10,220
No, that one I could never cross over to either.

700
00:25:10,220 --> 00:25:11,620
Yeah, liver, no way.

701
00:25:11,620 --> 00:25:12,460
Pass.

702
00:25:12,460 --> 00:25:13,300
Yeah, yeah.

703
00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:14,660
Yeah, a lot for me.

704
00:25:14,660 --> 00:25:17,100
But you guys, I really appreciate you taking the time

705
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:17,920
to come on here.

706
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,020
It's really awesome what you guys are doing

707
00:25:19,020 --> 00:25:21,220
for the community, for the Croatian language

708
00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:23,100
and helping people, you know, like myself

709
00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:26,220
and like yourselves learn and stay, you know,

710
00:25:26,220 --> 00:25:29,460
in tune with their Croatian culture and heritage.

711
00:25:29,460 --> 00:25:31,140
We'll hit the video right now,

712
00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:33,020
but I just wanna, you know, thank you guys again

713
00:25:33,020 --> 00:25:35,020
for coming on the podcast.

714
00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:36,840
Puno Hvala, Samko, Puno Hvala.

715
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,680
Puno Hvala.

716
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,520
Thank you.

717
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,600
Yeah, Hvala Vama.

718
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,940
Či, deti šat!

719
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,460
["Follow Us"]

720
00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:47,040
["Follow Us"]

721
00:25:50,980 --> 00:25:54,020
So let's get things going with the lesson here.

722
00:25:54,020 --> 00:25:55,640
So at the beginning of the show,

723
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,180
you heard three goofballs yell something loud, right?

724
00:25:59,180 --> 00:26:03,140
It was, and what you heard, you heard tri, četri, sad.

725
00:26:03,140 --> 00:26:05,500
So it's a really cool little thing where,

726
00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:07,900
in English, at least in American English,

727
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:11,300
we say either ready, set, go,

728
00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:13,700
or we say one, two, three.

729
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:17,860
But in Croatian, they say three, four, now.

730
00:26:17,860 --> 00:26:18,700
Go, go!

731
00:26:21,340 --> 00:26:24,180
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732
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