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Welcome back to the podcast everybody.
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On this episode, we have a special guest, Annie Bosko.
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Annie is a Croatian-American singer and country music
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star.
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From appearing on American Idol,
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she now has millions of listens on Spotify,
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plays in big concerts and festivals,
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and has performed with legends like Andrea Bocelli, Adele,
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and Oli Ben.
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In this episode, we're going to learn a little about her
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heritage and some of the best moments of her career.
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Annie, thanks for coming on the podcast.
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Thanks for having me.
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Wow, what a great intro.
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I have to say, that was much better
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than a lot of the shows that I play.
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That intro was spot on.
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Oh, really?
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Well, I'm glad you liked it.
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I'm glad it was worth it.
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At first, actually, I never met you,
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but I saw you perform, I don't know how long ago, maybe five,
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seven years ago, at one of the Croatian picnics
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in Los Angeles.
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And you were singing both the national anthems, the Croatian
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and the American.
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And I think you might have performed a few songs as well.
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But I can't remember what year that was.
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That's cool.
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Well, it's amazing, the Croatian community, how it really,
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like, it's a ripple effect.
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You know, like, just people will tell me that.
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Or like, a lot of people were in Vegas when I sang with Oliver
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at the Pearl Casino.
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Like, it's amazing how, yeah, the Croatians talk.
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The community is strong.
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Yes, yes.
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We're very well connected with each other.
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Well, can you talk a little about that, about, you know,
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your Croatian background and your heritage?
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Yeah.
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My goodness, you know, it's, it really has so much to do
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with who I am and my work ethic and where I come from
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and my faith and family and my love for food and mosta
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Trolley and everything.
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My grandparents were actually the first couple
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to be married at St. Anthony's Catholic Church.
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And my grandpa's father came to the States.
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He had no shoes on his feet, you know, just like totally
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the American dream story.
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He was a minor.
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He worked as a minor and then ended up in California,
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had my grandpa and my grandpa met my grandmother
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out of Croatian picnic.
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And it's a cute story.
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I mean, he was kind of a bachelor, an older bachelor
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at the time.
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It was really rare for a man to not be married, you know,
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in his late 30s.
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So he was in his late 30s.
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They got married.
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He sold her car, which was their only car.
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And he bought a tractor and it was like the first tractor
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in the area.
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So he started a farm, Boskovich Farms.
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And my dad helped, you know, grow the business
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with my uncle and their cousin.
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And they grow, you know, lots of, gosh, I think,
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like over 50 vegetables.
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And so, you know, it just taught me a lot.
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Like my grandpa worked till he was 93.
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He was still farming three days a week
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till he was 93 years old.
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And just so proud to be Croatian and so proud
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of his heritage.
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And I think it had so much to do with his,
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how he lived his life, you know, and his work ethic,
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his appreciation, you know, for things.
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And especially after watching his family during the war
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and what they went through, you know, just like,
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I think he was able to go back and to help them.
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And the church that they'd turned into a bomb shelter,
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he was able to help restore to be a church again.
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So we got to go there and visit them.
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And they had this, you know, food laid out for us
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and a whole procession and saying.
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And it was the only time I've ever seen him cry.
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Like literally just cry,
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because I could tell how much it meant to him.
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And so I've always been proud to be Croatian.
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And I love that I have like, you know,
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so much Croatian support from that community.
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You know, it's like we're small, but mighty.
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We are like not the biggest country,
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but like we are, you know, fierce people for sure.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And I think that's what it's like.
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Like we said, everyone knows each other.
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If you mentioned the last name, like, oh yeah,
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that's, they're from the village over.
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Like they always somehow know each other or know of each other.
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It's true.
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And it's all villages.
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Yeah, which is different other countries,
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because it's like, oh yeah, they're from that city
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and Croatia.
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It's like, no, it's a village.
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Let's get us to that village.
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Yeah.
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What part was your grandfather from?
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Or your family side from?
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Like, Cherniči, which like you probably haven't even heard of.
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It's outside of, I think, Stolić.
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It's in Bosnia, Herzegovina.
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My grandmother's family is from Dubrovnik.
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That area in there?
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Oh, of course.
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You know, I mean, now that it's Game of Thrones,
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it's more popular than, you know, it used to be,
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but been to both places.
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And it's just beautiful.
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I appreciate that it feels like you kind of step back in time.
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You know, when you go to like a more simple time
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and just walking past the butcher and the bakery
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and fresh bread and it's fresh fish and cobblestone
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streets and, you know, people playing music in the street.
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It's just, you know, it's special.
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It still feels like it's not overdeveloped
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like other areas of Europe or the world.
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And so I love it there.
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Well, coming from the US especially,
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definitely a nice change of pace, at least for me.
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Annie, I want to ask a little about your, you know,
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musical career.
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When did you first start, you know,
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realizing that you had some, this sort of talent?
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I mean, you play guitar as well.
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You sing.
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What did you, did you first start learning guitar?
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Or did you, you know, you could sing from when you were a kid?
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How did that start?
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Gosh, you know, it's, people always ask this,
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it's like, where did it come from?
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Which parent, you know?
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And I honestly don't know,
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because my family really wasn't very musical,
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other than my little brother and I sang together.
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But when I was a baby,
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my mom said I was singing in my crib.
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She said, you'd literally be in your crib
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and you were just like,
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wah, wah, wah, like always singing, always making noises.
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And then when I was five,
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I fell in love with the Wizard of Oz over the rainbow.
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And so I sang that at my great grandmother's funeral.
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And so I think, I don't have footage of it.
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I would have loved to have seen it.
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But I think from the response of everyone that was there,
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it was just sort of like, kind of, I guess,
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shocked at like, wow, like a five year old kid.
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I mean, there was a lot of people there,
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if that could come out of their mouth.
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I don't know.
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I never actually got to see it.
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And then I, you know,
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we had no ties to the entertainment industry
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really in my family.
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So I think I didn't know, like, could I do this?
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I knew I loved it.
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And I did it everywhere, all day,
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everywhere I could.
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But it was kind of like, well,
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how do I make a career doing this?
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And then I got heard by a guy that worked at Disney
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and they needed like a young singing voice
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to do a role in Little Mermaid 2.
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And so that's kind of like when I sort of thought,
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okay, maybe this is something that I can really pursue
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as a career, you know?
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It was my first time being a real recording studio
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and, you know, getting a check.
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It wasn't really that big.
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They still send me checks for like two cents.
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And I'm like, didn't it cost me all this check?
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Whatever.
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But anyways, I'm so grateful for that opportunity
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because it opened my eyes to, okay,
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maybe I can really do this.
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And then I just, I sing everywhere,
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anywhere I could.
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I was literally from church events,
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probation picnics to, you know,
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charity things to funeral football games,
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whatever, wherever anyone asked.
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I would sort of, it was a, the human music box.
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It was just like, turn me and then I would pop out
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and sing wherever I needed to.
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And so have you always been sort of a country singer
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or was that something that you developed later on
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in your, well, not career, but I guess later on?
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Yeah, you know, I grew up singing everything,
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but the first singer I ever heard was Patsy Klein.
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My dad loved Patsy Klein and loves classic country music.
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Because that's the first singer I really ever heard.
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And I think when I started writing songs,
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they were country songs.
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And so I fell in love with Shania Twain.
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And, you know, my dad raised me on like George Strait,
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Patsy Klein, Marty Robbins, Jim Raves and the Beatles.
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So I was really raised on country music and the Beatles.
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And when I wrote songs, they were country.
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And so I thought, okay, you know, like, I think this is,
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this is what I'm supposed to do.
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And I, but I've always had an appreciation and love
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for singing all kinds of music.
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And now you're talking about country.
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That sounds like you're talking about the old school country,
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sort of, you know, George Strait, Shania Twain,
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that sort of stuff, not so much.
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I don't know how to describe it, but like the newer country,
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I'm not a huge country fan.
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So it's hard for me to talk about it, but like, you know what?
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I mean, the difference between the sort of the older school
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and the modern country.
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I can't think of any artists to compare that.
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Like any, Ziggernal.
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Is it?
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Do you like any country music or no?
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I like some of the older stuff.
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Yeah. But the newer stuff for me,
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it's like a little, I don't know how to explain it,
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but a little different, like more poppy and more,
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I don't know, there's something in there that it's,
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not my type of country, if that makes sense.
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What is the older stuff that you like?
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I don't know.
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Like there's a couple of George Strait songs
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that I can't remember off the top of my head,
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but that stuff is good.
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Shania Twain has some good songs.
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Do you like the traditional sounding stuff?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Me too. Same.
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Now, what type of stuff are you singing nowadays?
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What sort, are you writing a lot of your own songs?
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I am. And I'd say that my newer stuff
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actually has more of a classic feel to it
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than the stuff that I had done historically, you know,
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and put out, I'd say my newer project right now
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definitely has a thread of feeling more classic,
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I'd say, than the older stuff that felt
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like maybe it was poppier country, you know?
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And it still has pop sensibility where, you know,
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I think it's hooky,
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but I think from a production standpoint,
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it's not trying to like chase the pop sound.
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Is there something you could line dance to?
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Let's put it that way.
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Not that I line dance, but...
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Well, there's probably one song on there
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that would be line danceable.
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Yeah.
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Have you ever line danced before?
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Are you into that?
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I'm sure in Nashville they have that, right?
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No, not really.
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I used to line dance in California as a kid twice a week.
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Borderline, I would go twice a week, that was like it.
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That was the place to be.
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Wow, where was that at?
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That was in Ventura County, California.
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Sadly, it's where they had the shooting.
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They had a mass shooting there not too long ago,
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a couple of years ago, really sad.
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But, you know, all country music
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and it was like the place to go.
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We would go line dancing every Wednesday night,
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summer times, and then they had Sunday night as well.
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So I grew up doing it there and I loved it, loved.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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There's probably one song on my new project
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you could line dance to.
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There's one.
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I don't know why I asked that.
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I've never even,
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I think maybe one time I went line dancing with a cousin.
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But yeah, I don't know why I asked it,
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just felt like a...
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I think you would like to go to the cowboy hat
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and I think you should...
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Yeah, I do.
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I've always wanted to rock a cowboy hat,
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but I never had the confidence.
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I think you should just do it.
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They're very in right now.
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They're in the Tom Ford ads.
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Yellowstone, Yellowstone has made cowboy really cool again.
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So yeah.
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That's true.
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I don't know in Zagreb if that's caught yet though.
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I don't know if I would rock that
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on the streets of Zagreb right now.
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Once Annie Bosco really takes off,
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you know, I'll make country food in Zagreb.
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That would be a lot.
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Are you planning on coming to Croatia
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on performing there?
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There's nothing in the books right now,
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but oh my gosh, I'd love to.
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I hope so.
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Yeah, it'd be cool too.
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I had spoken to, you know, Oliver invited me
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to come to his island and to do like a show with him.
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And then so sad that he passed away
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just a couple of years after,
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or not even after I met him.
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But I've spoken to a couple of promoters
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about doing a concert in Dubrovnik this summer.
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So...
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Wow, that would be super cool.
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Well, speaking of Oliver,
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I put a song out in Croatian first.
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If you have any ideas.
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Well, that would be really cool.
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Actually, yeah, I'll shoot a few over to you if you'd like.
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I'll have to do some thinking.
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I can sing.
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Pisi, piši mi.
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Wow.
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Ajoši mi jojšti.
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Pisi, piši mi.
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I know that one.
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I know...
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So I know.
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That's the main one that I know.
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Yeah, I know Pisi Mi.
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Huh.
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Yeah, we'll have to get something, some concert going in Dubrovnik.
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Do it.
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Yeah, in the summer, there's no place better than the coast.
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You mentioned Oliver.
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You performed with him, well, for one song at one of his concerts.
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How did that work?
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I did.
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Yeah, it was great.
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We did, um, Crying Time, actually.
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Oh, it's Crying Time again.
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You're gonna leave me.
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It's a Hank Williams song.
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Ray Charles did it as well.
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And, um, sorry, does this look okay?
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I'm trying to find the right...
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Trying to find the right place to do this.
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And I'm the right backdrop.
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And I'm not...
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Okay, there we go.
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How's that?
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Okay, cool.
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Yeah, we did that together.
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And, you know, his music is so beautiful.
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When you listen to it, you just feel like you're cruising on the Adriatic Sea.
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And it's like this...
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It just sort of transports you to another place.
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And it's just beautiful.
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So...
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And did he reach out to you before the concert or how did that happen?
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Yeah, he did.
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I think they were looking for, you know, a Croatian-American artist to open for him.
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And so that's how it happened.
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And I was like, the only Croatian-American artist I could find.
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That's awesome.
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Yeah, I saw the video on YouTube and I also saw you performed with Andrea Bocelli.
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Yeah.
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That video.
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How was that?
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Wild.
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It was a wild experience.
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You know, he walks into the room and you can like feel the vibration, the vibrational
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force of Bocelli in the room.
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He is so sweet and just so calm and, you know, to be around.
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And he was so welcoming, you know, as a singer.
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You think at that level, you're like, oh my God, what are they going to do?
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Are they going to be a diva?
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And just like, couldn't it have been nicer and just calm?
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Like a really beautiful, calm energy to be around.
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And just hearing him in person is surreal.
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You know, I grew up, my God, that when time to say goodbye came out, the Conte Partiro,
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that song was so huge.
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And I bought the Romanza album that he put out.
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I listened to it a lot as a kid.
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And I'd say he was like the first tenor that I really fell in love with.
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And so to sing with him was definitely like a weird full circle moment.
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I've had a few of those where you're like, this really happening, you know, and it's
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surreal and he was one of them for sure.
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That's awesome.
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Well, it's sort of with a third collaboration here, which is interesting because it's sort
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of like three different singers, three different styles.
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You also performed with Adele.
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I did. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Where was that?
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It was incredible, it was a Nashville for the CMT Artist of the Year Awards, which she
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probably would never do now because she's like a superstar.
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But at the time she was still, it was before Welling in the Deep had really taken off.
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And actually the producer I work with now, and I write with Tommy since hired me to do it.
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He's an MD for a lot of people.
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He's worked with like Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen, you name it, a lot of people.
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And so he was called to put together the band for this event.
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And I had just gotten done touring with some other people and, you know, I got the call
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to sing with her and I think they needed someone that, you know, had a pretty large range.
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And so he called me to do it and we met and I sang for him.
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And then I, yeah, it's like I spent the whole day with her.
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And that was surreal.
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And now she's this global superstar.
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Yeah, yeah, that's true.
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I mean, aside from performing with other artists, you've also written songs for other artists,
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right?
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I saw that Jessica Simpson, Willie Nelson, Marie Osmond, you've written songs for them.
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What's your writing process like?
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Yeah, I, you know, it's different for all kinds of things.
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Like I usually, a title or a melody will hit me like an idea and then I'll take it in and
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finish it with someone.
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I could read something that inspires me.
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I could just have a melody in my head.
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I could be somewhere and I, my God, you can look through my iPhone.
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I probably have a thousand voice notes of...
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Whenever I am, I'm like singing my idea into my phone.
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It happens a lot.
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So that's usually how it starts.
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And then I'll develop the idea and sometimes, you know, I'll write it in like two days and
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other times it takes two years and I, it just depends.
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And that, are you thinking like, oh, this is, this song is perfect for Willie Nelson?
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Or are you writing it sort of, you know, for yourself, a song and then you realize, oh,
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this sort of isn't my style or, or how does that work?
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With that, you know, with the song with Willie, they were looking for a specific kind of song
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as a duet.
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And so I came in and we sort of passed out an idea and then ran it past the artist.
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They liked it.
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So we ended up finishing it with them and it was sort of project based.
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So I was sort of, okay, what, what could we say here that would make sense for these two
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people?
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Like what's a cool lyric that matches them?
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And then, and then he agreed to sing on it, which of course was another one of those weird
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moments where you're like, is this really happening?
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You know, holy shit.
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I mean, Willie Nelson wrote crazy, crazy.
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I'm crazy for feeling so lonely.
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I mean, he's one of the greatest songwriters of all time.
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People don't realize he wrote that song for Patsy Klein, but that was really incredible.
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So.
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Yeah, that's awesome.
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I didn't know he wrote that song either.
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Yeah.
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I was thinking, I thought, isn't that a woman singing that?
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I guess that's Patsy Klein, but you wrote that for her?
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Yeah, he did.
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Well, who are some of your favorite artists to listen to nowadays?
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You know, I kind of a couple of years ago got burnt out on new stuff and I was like,
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I'm going to go back to the people that inspire me, that inspired me to do music in the first
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place and like go back and listen to my heroes, you know.
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So it's everyone from Cheryl Crow to Patty Griffin to Patsy Klein to Loretta Lynn to
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Ava Cassidy to Dwight Yocum, the Mavericks, Vince Gill, George Stray, Garth Brooks, early
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nineties country, Brooks and Dunn, Aero Smith, like just all this stuff that really made
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me want to do music.
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I was like, I need to listen to that again because that always kind of puts the fire
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back in me to make music, you know.
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Aero Smith was interesting.
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They influenced you as well because that's sort of a different style than the other artists
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who were naming.
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Oh, no, I definitely went through my rock phase for sure.
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Yeah.
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And I just think one of the greatest singers, I love them.
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Yeah.
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He's got an incredible range.
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Yeah.
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He's got crazy high notes and he's a great singer.
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Well, speaking of Steven Tyler, because he was, I think, a judge on American Idol at
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one point.
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Yeah, he was.
510
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Sort of speaking about him, you were on American Idol back in the day.
511
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,760
How long ago was that?
512
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,760
How was that experience?
513
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,920
What was it like?
514
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,120
I don't even know.
515
00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:01,600
Honestly, I'm like, how long ago was that?
516
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,000
You know, it was okay.
517
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:08,720
It was one of those things where I was like, okay, this was supposed to be part of my journey.
518
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,440
Did it do anything to help my career?
519
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,600
No, it did not.
520
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,920
But was it supposed to happen to be part of my journey?
521
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,920
Yeah.
522
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,920
You know.
523
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,000
So I think you kind of realize everything happens for a reason.
524
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,160
And there's lessons that you can grab.
525
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:31,040
What lessons did you grab from that experience?
526
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,040
I think to be really clear on who you are as an artist, you know?
527
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:41,040
Because I think it's hard in a world where people could say, well, you should do this.
528
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,040
Well, you should do this.
529
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,040
Well, I think you should do this.
530
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,360
And it's hard in a world where you're listening and you're absorbing so much music all the
531
00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:52,040
time to really kind of tune out the voices and to go inward.
532
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,520
Who am I as an artist?
533
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,360
So I think that was a turning point for me to get clear on that.
534
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,720
To stay true to yourself.
535
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,080
What was the experience like?
536
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,800
Is it sort of how you imagine it when it's on TV or is it like completely?
537
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,800
Well, so surreal.
538
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,800
The whole thing felt like it never even happened.
539
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,800
I'm like, that happened.
540
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,720
I just feel like it like, yeah, like I don't even remember it happening.
541
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,720
It's bizarre.
542
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,240
Oh, just like a dream that snappard dream you did.
543
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,360
It totally did, yes.
544
00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:32,000
Well, you've had another cool experience in that you performed in some prisons.
545
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,480
I don't know if that was something in the past, a one time thing, or that's something
546
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:41,440
that you are currently doing, but that's a cool Johnny Cash style vibe from that.
547
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,360
How did that happen?
548
00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:45,560
You know, it just happened by a happenstance.
549
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:51,600
My friend have been doing concerts or not concerts, but have been doing work with inmates
550
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,600
to help.
551
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,680
He's an amazing nonprofit called You Inspire.
552
00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,160
He's a cancer survivor and sort of has dedicated his life just to helping people.
553
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,680
And so he asked me to come and visit and I did.
554
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,360
And I said, you know, I want to do a concert.
555
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,440
Would you be willing to do it?
556
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,440
Of course.
557
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,600
And so I just showed up really for him.
558
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,120
And then I sort of, I fell in love with it.
559
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:15,840
I was like, wow, these people.
560
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:21,440
I mean, I watched like thugs just like cry in front of me, you know, to certain songs.
561
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,040
I have a song called fighter that always emotionally moves people a lot.
562
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:31,640
And so I think to see that really shows you the power of music.
563
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,200
And I got the whole Johnny Cash thing.
564
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,200
Yeah.
565
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,400
And now it's morphed into more where I'd like to do an actual like album that's live from
566
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,440
a prison recorded film and similar to Johnny Cash.
567
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,600
But I can't even say it's something that I sought out because I didn't, you know, it
568
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,320
really kind of sought me out.
569
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,400
And then I enjoyed it so much that they're like, Oh my God, you know, you, when you come
570
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,880
back, they love you.
571
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,120
I honestly didn't treat them different than I would any other crowd.
572
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,000
I was like, I'm having fun with them.
573
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:08,160
Like whether I got to like, you know, like get rowdy, like whatever, I'm not going to
574
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,280
tone it down or like not say certain things.
575
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,440
You know, I was like, I'm just going to treat them like I would anywhere else.
576
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,680
Any other show, any festival.
577
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:24,280
So I did and they responded and it just, you know, showed me the power of music, of what
578
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:33,040
music can do and that people who are deprived in situations like that, you see how much
579
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,600
it can move someone like the barometer of moving someone was like, you know, way over
580
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,600
here.
581
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,600
And that was just so inspiring to watch.
582
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,800
Is that at a women's prison or a men's prison or both?
583
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,680
I thought I was just doing the women's prison, but then when I showed up like, no, you're
584
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,680
doing the men's too.
585
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,600
So then I ended up doing the men's as well.
586
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,600
And I did both.
587
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,600
Yeah.
588
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,600
Wow.
589
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,600
Mm hmm.
590
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,520
Releasing a full album.
591
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,360
That's in the full album.
592
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:08,800
But yeah, I'd like to do seven songs if I could.
593
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,800
Yeah.
594
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,800
That'd be super cool.
595
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,640
And then the next thing I always think of when I think of the Johnny Cash song, what's
596
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,040
the song that he did at the prison that they then like overdubbed, you know, like the prisoners
597
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:26,800
cheering at a part where they didn't because he said like, which one is it?
598
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,800
Full prison blues like don't know.
599
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:29,800
Yeah.
600
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,800
Yeah.
601
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,800
Yeah.
602
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,720
And they edited in a bunch of cheering on the part where he says something about killing.
603
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,720
I forget what the lyric is, but I like, I always thought that was just the natural reaction
604
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,000
of the crowd, but it turns out that they later dubbed that in.
605
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,600
Oh, they did.
606
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,600
Yeah.
607
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,600
Yeah.
608
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,600
Wow.
609
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,600
Well, you just taught me something new.
610
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Oh, there we go.
611
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:56,080
I was thinking about, you know, it's funny is I remember my last time in Croatia, like
612
00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,680
I heard Johnny Cash everywhere and you realize like, oh my God, there's someone who just
613
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,320
totally transcended genre, you know, like all over the world, you go, people love him.
614
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,320
Yeah.
615
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,440
He's a icon everywhere, I guess.
616
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,440
People icon.
617
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,440
Yeah.
618
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,960
Well, the song is called Cash.
619
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,800
The world full of Johnny's, but they'll never be another cash.
620
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,880
That's a new project you're working on.
621
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,880
New song.
622
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,880
Yeah.
623
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,880
I like that line.
624
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,040
There's a world where full of Johnny's, but there will never be another cash.
625
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,040
That's it.
626
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,040
That's pretty cool.
627
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,040
That's it.
628
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,040
Yeah.
629
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,520
Tell us a little bit more about your, your, what you're working on right now and your
630
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,520
future plans.
631
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,400
Yeah, I'm working on an album and, you know, it's amazing.
632
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:48,600
I went to a few, like my heroes, one actually offered and said, I would love to sing and
633
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,600
play on it.
634
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,840
And it was Vince Gill and it was a major turning point for me when I thought, okay, holy shit,
635
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,400
like now you really got to do this because I'd never made a full length album.
636
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,640
So Vince Gill is singing on it.
637
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,720
Dwight Yopam is singing on it.
638
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,920
And Raul Malo, who's the lead singer of a band called the Mavericks that I love.
639
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:13,000
And so yeah, I'm working on finishing those songs now.
640
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,600
And then you plan to go on tour with those?
641
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,800
Yeah, I'll plan on playing shows this later this spring and this summer.
642
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,800
Yes.
643
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,480
And hopefully, Dubrovnik this summer also.
644
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,360
I know, I know we got to make that happen.
645
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:30,720
In fact, I will reach out to my family friend who was trying to put that together and you'd
646
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,640
have to give me ideas of songs I should put out in Croatian to expand my Croatian fan
647
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,640
base.
648
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,360
I'll try, yeah, I'll try to come up with some lyrics.
649
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,000
I think I got one aft song that I was working on in Croatian.
650
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,520
Maybe I can send that over to you and finish it.
651
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,840
Or cover a cover of a famous song.
652
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,840
I have to do some thinking.
653
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,840
A cover song.
654
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,840
So I sang with him.
655
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,840
That'd be cool.
656
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,840
With who?
657
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,840
Oliver.
658
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,840
Ah, yeah, that would be a great cover to do.
659
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,400
Yeah, one of his songs.
660
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,280
Yeah, all of his songs are just so smooth.
661
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,080
They sound, I don't know, that's like the only word I can think of that best describes
662
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,800
it, but he's such a smooth singer.
663
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,360
Yeah, like the Adriatic Sea.
664
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,360
Exactly.
665
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,880
Well, Annie, thank you so much for coming on the podcast.
666
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,000
I've just got two more quick questions for you before we wrap this up.
667
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Yeah.
668
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,240
This one is, when you're in Croatia, what is your favorite food to eat?
669
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,400
Honestly, the fish.
670
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,240
The fish, it just is so fresh.
671
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:40,600
You know, all they put is garlic, lemon, olive oil on top and it's delicious.
672
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,680
And of course, chivapcici, wherever I have an opportunity to eat chivapcici.
673
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,680
I love chivapcici.
674
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,680
Yes.
675
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,880
Is there any over there in Nashville?
676
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,680
Is there a Croatian community over there?
677
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,200
No, but I couldn't believe it.
678
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,720
One time I was playing a show in Joliet, where was it?
679
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,720
Illinois.
680
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,760
It was outside of Chicago, Joliet.
681
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:07,600
I'm on stage doing a soundcheck and I see a chivapcici tent and I got to be kidding
682
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,600
me.
683
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,200
I like got done soundchecking and I ran over and I was like, who are you and how do you
684
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,040
make use Croatian?
685
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,360
There's a large Croatian population in Chicago.
686
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:23,160
And so we got to talking and I had like 10 chivapcici.
687
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,280
Right before the show?
688
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,280
Maybe afterwards.
689
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,280
Yeah.
690
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,240
Probably a good idea to have it after.
691
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,920
One, I might make this a two-part question.
692
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,520
I'll make it a two-part question.
693
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:42,360
If you could perform with any musician band or singer right now, who would it be that
694
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,920
you haven't performed with yet?
695
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,920
Or dream collaboration?
696
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:51,440
Maybe that's an easier way to say it.
697
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:57,440
Oh, that's a hard one.
698
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,440
Yeah.
699
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,040
I stumped you with this one.
700
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,040
You did.
701
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:11,560
Okay, I'll give you a different one then, unless you want to think this one out.
702
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,840
Let me think about that one because I'm not sure.
703
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,840
There's so many people.
704
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:20,600
I mean, off the top of my head, I would say Shania just because Dolly Parton, probably
705
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,480
Dolly Parton or Shania Dwayne.
706
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,480
Because I watch.
707
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,480
Yeah.
708
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,320
Those are two legendary artists.
709
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,640
This is sort of on the same vein, but the classic, if you could go back in time, or
710
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,880
if you could see any band in concert, past or present.
711
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,880
The Beatles.
712
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,880
Really?
713
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,200
Yeah, you grew up listening to the Beatles.
714
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,320
Yeah, like when they were taking off, like if I could have been, I would have loved to
715
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,320
have seen that.
716
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,480
Yeah, imagine that with everyone, all the girls going crazy for them.
717
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,640
I don't know how many thousands of people they packed in their glory days, but yeah,
718
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,680
I would have loved to have seen that.
719
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,680
Yeah.
720
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:18,880
Well, Annie, I want to thank you again so much for coming on the All Things Pro.com. Yeah, my website is www.AnnieBosco.com and my music is on Spotify.
721
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:47,480
I'm on everything.