1<br>00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,520<br>What's up everybody, welcome back to the All Things Croatia podcast.<br><br>2<br>00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:09,640<br>I'm your host, Stanko Zovak, and I'm bringing you the best of Croatia from around the globe.<br><br>3<br>00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,600<br>This episode is brought to you by Adriatic Tours, the best place since 1974 to book<br><br>4<br>00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,120<br>your cruises, tours, flights, and simply All Things Croatia.<br><br>5<br>00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,520<br>Use the personalized code, allthingscroachia, to get a special discount and book your trip<br><br>6<br>00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,080<br>to Croatia today.<br><br>7<br>00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:31,800<br>For more information, go to www.adriatictours.com or click the link in the description.<br><br>8<br>00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,600<br>Now eat a modalia and let's get started.<br><br>9<br>00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,920<br>Alright, welcome back to the podcast everyone.<br><br>10<br>00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,080<br>On this episode we have special guest, Ana Alic.<br><br>11<br>00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:47,360<br>Ana is a Canadian Croatian and a writer, actress, and stylist.<br><br>12<br>00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,980<br>Having written and acted in short and feature films, Ana continues to expand her industry<br><br>13<br>00:00:51,980 --> 00:00:55,180<br>skills into costume designing as well.<br><br>14<br>00:00:55,180 --> 00:00:58,540<br>And in this episode we're going to learn about her Croatian heritage and hear about<br><br>15<br>00:00:58,540 --> 00:01:00,060<br>the project she's working on.<br><br>16<br>00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:02,780<br>Ana, thanks for coming on the podcast.<br><br>17<br>00:01:02,780 --> 00:01:04,300<br>Thank you so much for having me.<br><br>18<br>00:01:04,300 --> 00:01:05,300<br>This is going to be really fun.<br><br>19<br>00:01:05,300 --> 00:01:06,300<br>I'm excited.<br><br>20<br>00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:07,300<br>Yes, me too.<br><br>21<br>00:01:07,300 --> 00:01:10,880<br>Well, first tell us a little bit about yourself, you know, about yourself, about your Croatian<br><br>22<br>00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,880<br>heritage.<br><br>23<br>00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,840<br>Yeah, so let's start with the Croatian heritage.<br><br>24<br>00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,300<br>So both of my parents were born in Croatia.<br><br>25<br>00:01:19,300 --> 00:01:22,760<br>I was born here in Canada, so I'm first generation.<br><br>26<br>00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,400<br>My dad came over when he was around 22.<br><br>27<br>00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,680<br>So he was still fairly young, but a little bit older.<br><br>28<br>00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,720<br>So and then my mom came when she was about three.<br><br>29<br>00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:42,440<br>So my mom's parents came a lot earlier, obviously, and my grandfather worked in the mines in<br><br>30<br>00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,120<br>Timans in this like northern Ontario area.<br><br>31<br>00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,320<br>And it was just for like a better life, like a lot of the Croatian stories are of coming<br><br>32<br>00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:56,920<br>over to different countries just to get more work and have the opportunity to grow a better<br><br>33<br>00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,840<br>life for their family.<br><br>34<br>00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:04,880<br>But it's so funny because like every time, I mean, I grew up in the Croatian community,<br><br>35<br>00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,280<br>it's very much a part of our lives.<br><br>36<br>00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,200<br>And for so many Croatians here in Canada, I'm sure in other places in the world, it's<br><br>37<br>00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,480<br>like you want to keep that heritage going.<br><br>38<br>00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:21,040<br>And it's so ingrained in us is like we were little kids and our families and just bringing<br><br>39<br>00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:27,360<br>us and bringing us up in that culture and, you know, joining Kovale and going to the<br><br>40<br>00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,600<br>Croatian church and all of these amazing things that really like keep that spirit of<br><br>41<br>00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:32,840<br>the culture going.<br><br>42<br>00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,760<br>And that's a big part of it.<br><br>43<br>00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,440<br>Yeah, and my dad came over when he was a little bit older.<br><br>44<br>00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,600<br>So you know, my mom doesn't really have an accent.<br><br>45<br>00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:48,240<br>My dad still does have a little bit of an accent and they met at a Croatian soccer tournament<br><br>46<br>00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:54,680<br>dance like you would if you're in that culture.<br><br>47<br>00:02:54,680 --> 00:03:01,160<br>And yeah, and then we just grew up in this small town called Oakville here.<br><br>48<br>00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,080<br>I eventually moved to Toronto.<br><br>49<br>00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:10,440<br>But yeah, so my dad is from a small village outside of Zada called Pulacik.<br><br>50<br>00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,240<br>It's called Pulacik.<br><br>51<br>00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,400<br>Really cute, quite little village.<br><br>52<br>00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,800<br>I love going to Zada.<br><br>53<br>00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,120<br>It's really amazing city.<br><br>54<br>00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,120<br>One of my favorites, obviously.<br><br>55<br>00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,000<br>And I mean, all over Croatia is so beautiful.<br><br>56<br>00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,040<br>And then my mom is from Lika.<br><br>57<br>00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,160<br>So I'm part Dalmatinka, partly Czanka.<br><br>58<br>00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:36,200<br>And yeah, I've spent many summers there and actually recently my parents after retiring<br><br>59<br>00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,680<br>moved back to Croatia.<br><br>60<br>00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,560<br>We just kind of like what you did, right?<br><br>61<br>00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,560<br>Like you moved back to Croatia.<br><br>62<br>00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:49,760<br>And I feel like there has been in the past couple years, this, you know, moved to Croatia.<br><br>63<br>00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,800<br>Like a lot of people are moving back.<br><br>64<br>00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:57,760<br>They're seeing the value of that pace of life of the, just the values of the country.<br><br>65<br>00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,920<br>And it's really amazing to see.<br><br>66<br>00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:05,960<br>And there's more opportunities now to really do interesting things there and build there.<br><br>67<br>00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,360<br>Right now my parents bought an investment property, which they're going to turn into<br><br>68<br>00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,840<br>a rental.<br><br>69<br>00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,960<br>And it's in Posadaria, which is like close by about 20 minutes away from their home<br><br>70<br>00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,960<br>in the village my dad grew up in.<br><br>71<br>00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:23,640<br>So they actually built a home on the actual land where my dad grew up, which is really<br><br>72<br>00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:24,640<br>amazing.<br><br>73<br>00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:30,080<br>And everyone in the village is like our family, which is like very similar to a lot of other<br><br>74<br>00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,040<br>people's stories when it comes to Croatia.<br><br>75<br>00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,040<br>So they're really building this beautiful life there.<br><br>76<br>00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:44,680<br>And, and yeah, it's really amazing to be a part of it and to learn more about these different<br><br>77<br>00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:52,440<br>regions and to go back, you know, as much as we can to really like soak into the culture<br><br>78<br>00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,360<br>and be with our family because all of my dad's family is still over there in Croatia.<br><br>79<br>00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,360<br>Some of my moms is here in Canada.<br><br>80<br>00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,800<br>And so yeah, so that's kind of a little bit of where my family's from.<br><br>81<br>00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,640<br>And so now do you have any feelings to move to Croatia?<br><br>82<br>00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,520<br>I mean, do you have siblings?<br><br>83<br>00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,520<br>They're alone now.<br><br>84<br>00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,520<br>So my parents would love that.<br><br>85<br>00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,840<br>And they can say like, you have houses here now, you can definitely come back.<br><br>86<br>00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:23,200<br>For me, like, I love the beauty of the country.<br><br>87<br>00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,960<br>I love visiting there.<br><br>88<br>00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,120<br>There's so much there.<br><br>89<br>00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,680<br>That's just incredible.<br><br>90<br>00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,120<br>I'm very big into nature and wellness and holistic living.<br><br>91<br>00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:37,080<br>And I think that the quality of living over there is very much aligned with all of the<br><br>92<br>00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,520<br>principles that I really like and admire and respect.<br><br>93<br>00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,360<br>So I can see myself have this draw there.<br><br>94<br>00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:50,760<br>But at the same time, because of my love of filmmaking, it's a lot harder.<br><br>95<br>00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,120<br>The industry is not as big over there.<br><br>96<br>00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,480<br>There's definitely a filmmaking industry.<br><br>97<br>00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:01,640<br>And I don't know the language as much as I wish I did.<br><br>98<br>00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,400<br>And I've really built up my career here in Canada.<br><br>99<br>00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,840<br>Being in Canada, we have access to the film industry in America.<br><br>100<br>00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:13,320<br>And that's kind of really where a lot of the work is.<br><br>101<br>00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:18,760<br>So for me, I can see myself going back a lot and just travel there and stay there for a<br><br>102<br>00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:19,760<br>couple months.<br><br>103<br>00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:27,320<br>Yeah, there's a little bit of a pull, but then I've created such a strong career here<br><br>104<br>00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,960<br>that it would be kind of hard.<br><br>105<br>00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:36,960<br>And another part of me being in this film industry is I want to create films in Croatia.<br><br>106<br>00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:43,080<br>I want to be able to go over there and actually expand the film industry in any little way<br><br>107<br>00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,080<br>that I can.<br><br>108<br>00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,680<br>I know that there is a thriving film industry within Croatia.<br><br>109<br>00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:57,080<br>If you think about it, there's not a lot of very well-known Croatian actors and filmmakers.<br><br>110<br>00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,360<br>And of course, we're a small country.<br><br>111<br>00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:05,960<br>And there's a lot of that to be said about why there isn't that much of a representation.<br><br>112<br>00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:12,680<br>But I would love to see more of that, especially in an American Canadian industry standpoint.<br><br>113<br>00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,480<br>Well, let's talk a little bit more about your career.<br><br>114<br>00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:22,560<br>Of course, that's a big poll to stay there in Canada where you've carved this career<br><br>115<br>00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,440<br>for yourself in the film industry.<br><br>116<br>00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,880<br>How did you get started in the film industry?<br><br>117<br>00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:32,560<br>Well, it was kind of in a winding road and definitely something that I didn't start off<br><br>118<br>00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,560<br>at.<br><br>119<br>00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:39,280<br>In the beginning, I think a lot of Croatians that grow up first generation or second generation<br><br>120<br>00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:44,440<br>can understand that our parents coming over to different countries and really having to<br><br>121<br>00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:51,360<br>work super hard to make a living and start new in a completely new place.<br><br>122<br>00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:57,520<br>It's all about safety in your career and really just like the traditional jobs and that's<br><br>123<br>00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,040<br>the thing that I was doing.<br><br>124<br>00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,800<br>I actually went to school and have my degree in science.<br><br>125<br>00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,720<br>And I have a whole history of working in the medical industry.<br><br>126<br>00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:13,200<br>So for about 10 years from 16 to 26, I worked in the hospital.<br><br>127<br>00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,240<br>About three of those years, I worked in the ER as a unit clerk and definitely was like<br><br>128<br>00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:25,240<br>preparing myself to go into medicine, which would have been my parents dream of course,<br><br>129<br>00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,920<br>like any Croatian.<br><br>130<br>00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:34,720<br>They would love to have their children get into that field because, and I understand<br><br>131<br>00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:42,000<br>the reasoning behind it, that secure job, something that will be very beneficial in<br><br>132<br>00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,080<br>the future.<br><br>133<br>00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,240<br>It's really respectable and all those things, which are amazing qualities.<br><br>134<br>00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:54,400<br>But forever, especially in high school, I had this like hold acting, I took drama class<br><br>135<br>00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,400<br>and all these things.<br><br>136<br>00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,680<br>But it always felt like this like secret love affair of the field world.<br><br>137<br>00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:05,640<br>And because like I was saying, it was it was hard to see anybody reflected in the film<br><br>138<br>00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:13,920<br>industry that was, you know, of Eastern European descent of specifically Croatian.<br><br>139<br>00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,120<br>So I didn't really have a lot of references to go off of and none of my friends were pursuing<br><br>140<br>00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,720<br>that and, you know, I grew up in a tight knit Croatian community in Oakville.<br><br>141<br>00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,280<br>And it was just something that like kept on pulling at me.<br><br>142<br>00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:34,640<br>And then I, when I was in university, switched my majors to a communication science only<br><br>143<br>00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,520<br>so that I could go do film classes and ending classes for photography.<br><br>144<br>00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,360<br>And I've always had this like artistic side and then I've always had this scientific side<br><br>145<br>00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,000<br>or just the science came really naturally to me.<br><br>146<br>00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:52,520<br>So it was like, you know, of course, that would make sense for me to pursue that.<br><br>147<br>00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,600<br>But then there's this artistic side of me that's always been there.<br><br>148<br>00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:02,160<br>And there was just a certain point where I couldn't deny it anymore.<br><br>149<br>00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:09,560<br>Because I quit the hospital and, but before this, I got an internship at MTV in Canada,<br><br>150<br>00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:14,800<br>which was kind of amazing because I'm the science students doing an internship at MTV<br><br>151<br>00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,200<br>doing like film production.<br><br>152<br>00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,480<br>I don't even know how I got in because it didn't really make any sense, but that was<br><br>153<br>00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,520<br>the first moment where I got to see like, oh, this is possible for me.<br><br>154<br>00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,200<br>I can, I can pursue this.<br><br>155<br>00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,960<br>And it was just like little by little, I kept on coming out of my shell and making these<br><br>156<br>00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,880<br>like small moves.<br><br>157<br>00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:43,040<br>And then I remember in the ER, I was studying acting, but I didn't tell anybody.<br><br>158<br>00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,520<br>So I was doing these classes in Toronto.<br><br>159<br>00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,240<br>And I would like, I would always work the like the night shifts.<br><br>160<br>00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:55,120<br>And I remember like specifically, I'd be taking my breaks on these stretchers in these other<br><br>161<br>00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:00,960<br>rooms, reading scripts and like practicing for these acting classes that I was taking.<br><br>162<br>00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,400<br>And it was like such a, a crazy difference to, to explore.<br><br>163<br>00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,440<br>But I really love my time working in the ER.<br><br>164<br>00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:17,680<br>And I really think that it like impacted who I am and who I am now and really crashed me<br><br>165<br>00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:23,000<br>for this kind of crazy film world because no job will ever be as hard as that.<br><br>166<br>00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:29,240<br>And at the same time, filmmaking is a really difficult pursuit and you have long hours<br><br>167<br>00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,600<br>and kind of like craziness that goes along with it as well.<br><br>168<br>00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,760<br>So it was a great training ground in a weird way.<br><br>169<br>00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:42,720<br>And then one day I just like, I quit it all and moved to the city and just started pursuing<br><br>170<br>00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,120<br>acting and filmmaking in various different aspects.<br><br>171<br>00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:53,560<br>I got an agent, started going out for auditions and then I started writing because I really<br><br>172<br>00:11:53,560 --> 00:12:01,040<br>wanted to, like I said, start writing these characters that represented who I am and things<br><br>173<br>00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,680<br>that I wasn't seeing in the industry.<br><br>174<br>00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:11,120<br>I was always getting these like Eastern European specific auditions that were just not representative<br><br>175<br>00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,600<br>of what they were very like cliched roles.<br><br>176<br>00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:24,120<br>And I wanted to start to see just who I was, you know, a first generation Croatian, just<br><br>177<br>00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,800<br>making their own way in Canada.<br><br>178<br>00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:32,720<br>And so that's why I started writing and getting into filmmaking in that aspect.<br><br>179<br>00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:38,760<br>And then eventually, at the same time I was doing styling for many, many years, I've always<br><br>180<br>00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,960<br>had a love for clothing and fashion and design.<br><br>181<br>00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,600<br>It's something that just naturally comes through me.<br><br>182<br>00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,400<br>And my mom has always been into fashion.<br><br>183<br>00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,040<br>I think that's where I get it from.<br><br>184<br>00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,040<br>She's been amazing.<br><br>185<br>00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:58,720<br>She has such a beautiful eye for design that I really feel like I got that from her.<br><br>186<br>00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,040<br>And then it was like one thing led to another and I have this kind of accidental costume<br><br>187<br>00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:12,160<br>designing career, a good friend of mine who's an actress and director and really prolific<br><br>188<br>00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,440<br>here in Canada.<br><br>189<br>00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:19,440<br>She was doing her feature film and she asked me to do costume design.<br><br>190<br>00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,760<br>This was a couple of years ago.<br><br>191<br>00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,080<br>And I never did it before.<br><br>192<br>00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:29,200<br>And you know, I have my styling background, but there were so many differences when it<br><br>193<br>00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,720<br>came to creating costumes for films.<br><br>194<br>00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:33,720<br>You have to think about the script.<br><br>195<br>00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,120<br>You have to think about continuity.<br><br>196<br>00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,120<br>You have to think about the characters and what they would wear.<br><br>197<br>00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:45,160<br>And I just kind of like threw myself in and learned as I went.<br><br>198<br>00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,440<br>And I was really lucky because I was working with such incredible filmmakers in our industry.<br><br>199<br>00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,360<br>I mean, these are like award-winning filmmakers.<br><br>200<br>00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:59,240<br>So many people on this film set were just like taught me so much.<br><br>201<br>00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,280<br>And I was just so, just grateful to have that experience.<br><br>202<br>00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,280<br>So I learned as I went.<br><br>203<br>00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:11,400<br>And from there, I've just been expanding my costume designing career.<br><br>204<br>00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:21,160<br>Last year I did four films for, as a costume designer, they're all these like TV movies<br><br>205<br>00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,600<br>that are thriller-based.<br><br>206<br>00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,880<br>And just, yeah, so I've been working on many, many films now.<br><br>207<br>00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,720<br>And I love it.<br><br>208<br>00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,560<br>I love the culture of it.<br><br>209<br>00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:39,240<br>I love the experience of it and just like being able to be on set and also learning<br><br>210<br>00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,240<br>for future jobs that I want to have in my life.<br><br>211<br>00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,720<br>So I would love to get into directing and writing my own films, like I said.<br><br>212<br>00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,720<br>And this is just like, I'm being paid to be on set and do costume designing, but then<br><br>213<br>00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:54,840<br>I can watch the directors.<br><br>214<br>00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,640<br>I can watch all these people around me.<br><br>215<br>00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:04,160<br>And like I was saying, it took me a really long time to get to this position where I<br><br>216<br>00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:11,840<br>don't feel the imposter syndrome anymore, especially coming from this culture where,<br><br>217<br>00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:18,920<br>like I said, there's not as much representation in the same way that I feel like there could<br><br>218<br>00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,800<br>be and seeing examples.<br><br>219<br>00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:30,560<br>So it's just like slowly, little by little, just having the courage to go for this specific<br><br>220<br>00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:31,960<br>career aspiration.<br><br>221<br>00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,280<br>And it's, yeah, I'm still working on it.<br><br>222<br>00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:41,560<br>I'm still like getting to a place where I feel confident in my work, but it's such a<br><br>223<br>00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:42,560<br>journey.<br><br>224<br>00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,720<br>Well, I mean, sorry, that was a long answer.<br><br>225<br>00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,360<br>Trying to think in my head, how do I unravel all this?<br><br>226<br>00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,360<br>Yeah, I know.<br><br>227<br>00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,920<br>But I want to first, I want to go back to what you said about sort of the representation<br><br>228<br>00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,480<br>and the fact that you're writing and that you felt like these characters were sort of<br><br>229<br>00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,520<br>cliche Eastern European characters.<br><br>230<br>00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:08,600<br>But have you been writing sort of characters that are close to yourself, a first generation<br><br>231<br>00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:14,760<br>Croatian Canadian characters that you feel more of a connection with in your writing?<br><br>232<br>00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,760<br>I have.<br><br>233<br>00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,000<br>I have.<br><br>234<br>00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,040<br>Not with every single script that I've been writing.<br><br>235<br>00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:26,040<br>I have a couple of scripts that I have that are still in the works.<br><br>236<br>00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,440<br>There's one script in particular that I wrote with a writing partner of mine who's an amazing<br><br>237<br>00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,600<br>cinematographer here in Canada.<br><br>238<br>00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,640<br>And one of the lead characters, it's like a TV show concept, a pilot that we wrote.<br><br>239<br>00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,920<br>One of the lead characters is very much based off of being a first generation Croatian<br><br>240<br>00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:52,520<br>girl who has this amazing Bubba who like, you know, I wrote this incredible Bubba character<br><br>241<br>00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:59,240<br>who just is living in Canada, but like has all the same qualities that you would imagine.<br><br>242<br>00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:05,880<br>There's like a hilarious incredible, because there's so many funny things about all these<br><br>243<br>00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:13,800<br>different generations and what it's like actually like living in Canada or a different country<br><br>244<br>00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,280<br>and you're an older, you know, you're part of the older generation and you never learned<br><br>245<br>00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:25,760<br>like, you know, you never learned English, you stick to your Croatian language and there's<br><br>246<br>00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:34,720<br>just like so many funny things that only Croatians would like understand, you know what I mean?<br><br>247<br>00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,520<br>So I try to incorporate a lot of those like funny scenarios that I remember from like<br><br>248<br>00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:43,760<br>my grandparents and like, you know, every time I go over to their house, like my my<br><br>249<br>00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,560<br>Dita is like making wine in the basement or like, you know, my Bubba's in the garden<br><br>250<br>00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,080<br>and like, you come into the house and you're like, you have to eat and like, you know,<br><br>251<br>00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:57,360<br>there's like a feast at your table and it's like, you're they're offended if you don't<br><br>252<br>00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:02,360<br>eat and if you bring friends over, they're like, also offended if they don't eat and<br><br>253<br>00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:10,080<br>drink coffee and take a shot and all these amazing things that it just leads to such<br><br>254<br>00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,080<br>incredible comedy.<br><br>255<br>00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,480<br>Yeah, in real life too.<br><br>256<br>00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:19,320<br>I mean, yeah, yeah, that's why they say that that's awesome that you're able to pay tribute,<br><br>257<br>00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,920<br>you know, not only to your Bubba but to the Croatian culture as well with that.<br><br>258<br>00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,040<br>Is that something that you're working on now or that's something that in the past you had<br><br>259<br>00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,040<br>written?<br><br>260<br>00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,760<br>That was something in the past that I have written.<br><br>261<br>00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:36,480<br>I know that in the future, I do want to write something that is like specific to like that<br><br>262<br>00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:43,040<br>takes place in Croatia and very similar, you know, like with a lead character who maybe<br><br>263<br>00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:51,520<br>grew up in a different country but still has those roots and that connection to her, her<br><br>264<br>00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:57,240<br>homeland and and kind of discovering that I've yet to see that like you kind of see<br><br>265<br>00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:02,160<br>that with some films like Under the Tuscan Sun or like my big factory wedding and all<br><br>266<br>00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:08,120<br>of these, you know, that take place in different European countries but I haven't seen anything<br><br>267<br>00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:12,200<br>like that for the American market in Croatia.<br><br>268<br>00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:17,960<br>And I would like, because my, I guess my genres, I really love rom-coms, I really love kind<br><br>269<br>00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:24,720<br>of like that type of those types of films and I know that it's like there and eventually<br><br>270<br>00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:30,240<br>I'll get there but I also think that it's something like really personal and something<br><br>271<br>00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,960<br>I don't want to like mess up is basically what I'm trying to say.<br><br>272<br>00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,640<br>I really want to be authentic to it and and write the best thing that I can.<br><br>273<br>00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:47,480<br>So I'm still in the process of working on that in the future but right now I'm working<br><br>274<br>00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:54,680<br>on scripts that are catered more to the Canadian American market just to break my<br><br>275<br>00:19:54,680 --> 00:20:02,200<br>self in and just to get kind of like my footing there but 100% one of my goals is to create<br><br>276<br>00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:10,120<br>something that you know American Canadian audiences can enjoy but takes place over there<br><br>277<br>00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:16,520<br>and is something that yeah is really really would be really special.<br><br>278<br>00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,920<br>Yeah, that would be awesome.<br><br>279<br>00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,960<br>I would love to see something like that.<br><br>280<br>00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,120<br>And of course, yeah, that's not something you can just rush and you know try and get<br><br>281<br>00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:27,920<br>out there and produce you know that's something that's you know the truth and and things that<br><br>282<br>00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,040<br>you know that's you know that takes a lot of time and yeah that's not something you<br><br>283<br>00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,960<br>can just sort of oh let me write this and I'll write it and there it is yeah that's<br><br>284<br>00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,960<br>I'm sure that's something that will take a while.<br><br>285<br>00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,720<br>Yeah, because it's something like special when it comes to like your culture and your<br><br>286<br>00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:48,480<br>heritage and all the experiences I've had growing up and there's so many like really<br><br>287<br>00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,160<br>incredible experiences you probably have been through this too.<br><br>288<br>00:20:52,160 --> 00:21:01,080<br>Because you grew up in America right yeah so and I could something that comes to mind<br><br>289<br>00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,640<br>which is so interesting is like there's these cultural phenomenons when it comes to living<br><br>290<br>00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,520<br>outside of the country that your family is from that it's really hard to explain to anybody<br><br>291<br>00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:17,360<br>else but you it's like such a special pivotal month like we used to have these things called<br><br>292<br>00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:25,600<br>Bash at the Beach and they were in this area called Hamilton and they were literally in<br><br>293<br>00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:32,200<br>this like kind of barn gazebo on the beach and we would have like a Croatian band playing<br><br>294<br>00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:39,040<br>and like we were all like 18, 19, 20 like this young generation who would be so excited to<br><br>295<br>00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:47,280<br>go dance to like you know, cologne music and drink and like it was we looked forward to<br><br>296<br>00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:53,160<br>it every single summer it was always this kind of like wild party none of our like Canadian<br><br>297<br>00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,240<br>friends understood you know and then they would get there and be like what is this and<br><br>298<br>00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:04,320<br>it was just such a and it doesn't exist anymore like they turn this whole area into condos<br><br>299<br>00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:14,560<br>but for that time it was I like I look back so fondly on those times because we'll never<br><br>300<br>00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,560<br>experience something like that again and even people in Croatia wouldn't understand it like<br><br>301<br>00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:24,800<br>it's just so specific to where we're at at that time and celebrating our culture and<br><br>302<br>00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:30,520<br>being with people are like our own age and it was like such a fun kind of wild time so<br><br>303<br>00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,720<br>things like that I would love to like bring to the film world but they're really special<br><br>304<br>00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:40,080<br>to me so yeah that would be awesome I would love to see that I know probably everyone<br><br>305<br>00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,320<br>listening to all the diospora who are listening would love to see as well you know to feel<br><br>306<br>00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,600<br>represented yeah yeah there's a lot of good as far as comedy goes I think there's a lot<br><br>307<br>00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:55,040<br>of funny situations that you can have with that you said your favorite genre I think<br><br>308<br>00:22:55,040 --> 00:23:00,000<br>was like rom-coms but you've been acting in some horror movies right how was that yes<br><br>309<br>00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:11,000<br>yes I have I'm super scared so I was I mean it's not like a scary horror movie but that<br><br>310<br>00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:18,160<br>was one of my first kind of like I guess breaks in the industry and it was a it was a horror<br><br>311<br>00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:24,680<br>film called anti-social and it was it's screened at many different places around the world<br><br>312<br>00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:34,200<br>and was yeah it was a really fun experience I got to do a lot of stunts in that film yeah<br><br>313<br>00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:43,000<br>it's that was a fun one that was a really interesting one yeah that was great I mean<br><br>314<br>00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,720<br>I won't even ask what it's about or anything I guess I'm scared just thinking about things<br><br>315<br>00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:53,560<br>like that just reading description it was it was kind of about how social media basically<br><br>316<br>00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:59,400<br>turns people into zombies that's so it was ahead of its time you know it was really<br><br>317<br>00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:05,360<br>what was it 10 years ago oh wow yeah it was 10 years ago yeah so I was very I was at<br><br>318<br>00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:11,200<br>the beginning of my acting career and kind of jumped into this project last minute they<br><br>319<br>00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:20,200<br>were looking for one more actor and yeah it was that it was quite the experience and<br><br>320<br>00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:26,560<br>I I enjoy the horror genre to act in because you get to do so many crazy things like I<br><br>321<br>00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:33,360<br>said I did so many stunts like in that I got to do my own stunt where I my character I<br><br>322<br>00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:37,200<br>don't know if I should give this away but I basically had to wear a harness and get<br><br>323<br>00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:44,520<br>dropped from two floors which was pretty pretty fun to do you always want to get those roles<br><br>324<br>00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:54,120<br>of an actor but another genre that I love to explore is sci-fi and kind of like mixing<br><br>325<br>00:24:54,120 --> 00:25:01,600<br>but making it very like how do I describe it kind of like the film Arrival something<br><br>326<br>00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:09,240<br>that feels very just still of this world and scientific base I think this is where my science<br><br>327<br>00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:16,600<br>comes in and merging those those two kind of loves science and art and I really want<br><br>328<br>00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:26,880<br>to do like character driven relatable science fiction stories that have female leads and<br><br>329<br>00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:33,560<br>just these incredible stories because I'm truly fascinated by the spiritual world that's the<br><br>330<br>00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:39,080<br>kind of like the cosmic world and I'm sure we'll get into my my podcast but I've always<br><br>331<br>00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:45,640<br>had a fascination with it and I would love to see more science fiction films based around<br><br>332<br>00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:54,400<br>these incredible female characters and maybe some Croatian characters you know I won't<br><br>333<br>00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,200<br>try and force you to write every character as a Croatian character but yeah that would<br><br>334<br>00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,480<br>definitely be cool too yeah I like the sci-fi films that are like realistic that you can<br><br>335<br>00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:09,120<br>at least make this really happen like how would people really react not like the over-the-top<br><br>336<br>00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:13,400<br>like Sharknado or something cheesy that it's just yeah like I want to see something that<br><br>337<br>00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,280<br>like wow I can like what's I mean even something like iRobot you know at least that's an old<br><br>338<br>00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,840<br>yeah I thought of that one as my first example yeah it's funny that you say Sharknado because<br><br>339<br>00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:31,720<br>I auditioned for one of their sequels no way yeah I was like the third one I don't know<br><br>340<br>00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:39,200<br>there's been so many but I didn't get it but it's just such a funny funny connection but<br><br>341<br>00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:45,640<br>yeah well you you let us with a good segue into your podcast um well I won't even try<br><br>342<br>00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,960<br>and preface it because I don't know anything you know sort of about that realm so to speak<br><br>343<br>00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,880<br>so I'll let you you know go ahead and tell us you know what is aside from the film industry<br><br>344<br>00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,440<br>you know what else are you interested in and doing and talk a little about the podcast<br><br>345<br>00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:04,080<br>and what that's about I'm just gonna choose something right now because it's too sunny<br><br>346<br>00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:10,520<br>sorry there we go um this one is finally coming out it hasn't been out in like the past three<br><br>347<br>00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:18,840<br>weeks but now it's like glaring at me but um so the podcast I think really came from<br><br>348<br>00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:25,920<br>my love of the of the wellness industry and holistic living like I said and that really<br><br>349<br>00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:34,480<br>started back when I was working in the hospital and just seeing day to day like what it truly<br><br>350<br>00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:41,400<br>means to be healthy and well and um taking care of yourself and a lot of that has to<br><br>351<br>00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,520<br>do with like taking care of your mind and having this kind of like spiritual connection<br><br>352<br>00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:51,000<br>and so a lot of that came from that time and I've always been interested in those topics<br><br>353<br>00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:58,720<br>and the the podcast was just like a natural progression from from that and wanting to<br><br>354<br>00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:04,760<br>explore these topics and wanting to talk to other experts in the fields of health and<br><br>355<br>00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:12,360<br>wellness and and what it truly means to be healthy and well and diving into so many different<br><br>356<br>00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:21,640<br>topics um I think that also being you know there's always this connection to um the<br><br>357<br>00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,720<br>lifestyle in Croatia as well I think that they have such a people in Croatia have such<br><br>358<br>00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:32,440<br>a balanced way of living they really like enjoy their life and it's not so much about<br><br>359<br>00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:40,040<br>like you know they're hard workers but there is this beautiful balance and I love to explore<br><br>360<br>00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:47,040<br>that on the podcast I really love to talk about spirituality and and get into that and<br><br>361<br>00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:53,840<br>I also create these meditations on the podcast so you can um because I've found meditating<br><br>362<br>00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:59,520<br>and meditation to be a huge part of my life and and really helped me in all aspects of<br><br>363<br>00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:05,080<br>my life um so the podcast is where that all happens where I explore these like trippy<br><br>364<br>00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:11,160<br>topics and it's really interesting when I first started the podcast I was kind of like<br><br>365<br>00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,960<br>a little nervous for the for my like Croatian peers and friends to discover it because I<br><br>366<br>00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:23,800<br>feel like you don't hear it that much you know what I mean when it comes to our um community<br><br>367<br>00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:32,240<br>and I remember I mean my best friend Natasha who recommended me for this podcast um when<br><br>368<br>00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:37,840<br>she found out about it and I never like pushed on her anything she absolutely loved it and<br><br>369<br>00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:44,800<br>then started telling everybody she knew about the podcast and that was a moment for me to<br><br>370<br>00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:51,280<br>be like wow okay like when you pursue interests that you really have a love for that you're<br><br>371<br>00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,800<br>passionate about um it doesn't matter what culture you come from there's so many people<br><br>372<br>00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:02,040<br>that can relate because you are creating something that comes from that deep place of love and<br><br>373<br>00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,920<br>appreciation for something and um even though I was a little scared because like you know<br><br>374<br>00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,760<br>getting into some rude topics and and and worrying about like what my family would say or anything<br><br>375<br>00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:18,720<br>like that and it really has not been the case it's been like really embraced and um so that<br><br>376<br>00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:24,400<br>was something that I didn't expect and also that I I just love that it happened that way<br><br>377<br>00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,760<br>hmm that's pretty cool to hear I feel like you know that's obviously not that far away<br><br>378<br>00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:34,120<br>from the Croatian culture like it you know maybe a part of as far as like wellness and<br><br>379<br>00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,000<br>holistic approaches to things like I feel like that is a part of Croatian culture but maybe<br><br>380<br>00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:44,880<br>not in those yeah in so many words but like I don't know the fact like you mentioned they're<br><br>381<br>00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:50,280<br>hard workers and while they you know are hard workers they don't live to work it's you know<br><br>382<br>00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:56,520<br>working to live and to other things and that therapy through hard work and things like<br><br>383<br>00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,120<br>that and I don't know I kind of lost myself when I was trying to explain it but I felt<br><br>384<br>00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,760<br>like I had a good thought there of sort of like in bed being embedded in the culture<br><br>385<br>00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,600<br>and sort of wellness and holistic approach approaches to things but I mean you know better<br><br>386<br>00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:17,160<br>than I do maybe I know I think you're so right and I think that it's just like described<br><br>387<br>00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,640<br>in different ways so like what you know when we talk about it here we talk about um our<br><br>388<br>00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,320<br>meditation practices all these things but over there it's like it's already a part of<br><br>389<br>00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:33,320<br>their daily practice like my parents go for walks in the in the fields and that's a meditation<br><br>390<br>00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:39,000<br>practice you know or their everybody has a garden and like working with soil and your<br><br>391<br>00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,440<br>hand is like one of the most amazing things that you can do for your mind and they really<br><br>392<br>00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:52,600<br>care about the things that they're eating and eating like whole organic foods and respect<br><br>393<br>00:31:52,600 --> 00:32:00,040<br>and adapting just like all of that and coming together in community too is a big thing and<br><br>394<br>00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,400<br>and just like so it's like they're they're such a strong connection but it's just like<br><br>395<br>00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,720<br>done in different ways because it's already they don't need to describe it it's just like<br><br>396<br>00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,120<br>their way of life over there which is really amazing.<br><br>397<br>00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,440<br>Yeah I think okay that's that's what I was trying to say.<br><br>398<br>00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:25,040<br>Um you know Ana as we're sort of coming down to the end of the time here uh where can people<br><br>399<br>00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,560<br>find you know first of all your podcast and then you know see other information about<br><br>400<br>00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,360<br>you your other works your acting stuff directing you know costume designing work and they find<br><br>401<br>00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,440<br>your information.<br><br>402<br>00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:42,680<br>Well you find a lot of it on instagram and it's just Anna Alh and I also have a website<br><br>403<br>00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:50,400<br>AnnaAlih.com that's where you'll see all of my film work and upcoming film work and I<br><br>404<br>00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,880<br>think this year a lot of it will be costume designing so I'm continuously working with<br><br>405<br>00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:00,160<br>this one company and I'm expanding that but I have a couple writing projects kind of in<br><br>406<br>00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:06,840<br>the works so I'm excited to pursue those and and get those off the ground because that's<br><br>407<br>00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,680<br>really where my love is and what I want to continue doing.<br><br>408<br>00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:18,160<br>And then Topanga Moon is my kind of wellness spiritually podcast you can find everything<br><br>409<br>00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:25,800<br>on Topanga underscore moon which is the instagram or the podcast if you just look up on Spotify<br><br>410<br>00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,880<br>iTunes kind of everywhere where you find your podcast.<br><br>411<br>00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,760<br>Awesome I'll drop links as well so people listening can go ahead and click in the description<br><br>412<br>00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,400<br>um on those but Anna I want to thank you as we you know come down to the end here so much<br><br>413<br>00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,400<br>for coming on all things Croatia podcast I'm really excited to see especially the the movie<br><br>414<br>00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,560<br>you were talking about with the yeah that would be really awesome to see but everything<br><br>415<br>00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,520<br>else that you're doing as well looking forward to seeing what the future brings for you.<br><br>416<br>00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:59,280<br>Thank you so much and thank you for creating a platform like this because there's not a<br><br>417<br>00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:05,600<br>lot of it you know and I think it's so amazing that you're connecting people who have this<br><br>418<br>00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,680<br>strong love and appreciation for where they come and are doing such interesting things<br><br>419<br>00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,280<br>in the world so it's really amazing that you're doing that thank you.<br><br>420<br>00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,920<br>I really appreciate that you thank you for coming on the podcast.<br><br>421<br>00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:36,600<br>Okay thanks so much.<br><br>