1<br>00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,860<br>What's up everybody? Welcome back to the All Things Croatia podcast. I'm your host,<br><br>2<br>00:00:04,860 --> 00:00:08,840<br>Stanko Zovak, and I'm bringing you the best of Croatia from around the globe.<br><br>3<br>00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:14,520<br>This episode is brought to you by Adriatic Tours, the best place since 1974 to book<br><br>4<br>00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,960<br>your cruises, tours, flights, and simply All Things Croatia. Use the personalized code<br><br>5<br>00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:25,180<br>All Things Croatia to get a special discount and book your trip to Croatia today. For more<br><br>6<br>00:00:25,180 --> 00:00:31,720<br>information, go to www.adriatictours.com or click the link in the description. Now,<br><br>7<br>00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:38,280<br>eat a modalia and let's get started. Alright, welcome back to the podcast everybody. Today<br><br>8<br>00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,160<br>we have a special guest, Alex Schmidt. Alex is an American with Croatian heritage from<br><br>9<br>00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:49,320<br>Minnesota who decided to study abroad in Croatia back in 2015 and eventually moved back to Dubrovnik<br><br>10<br>00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,360<br>permanently in 2017. Along with working remotely as a digital marketing strategist,<br><br>11<br>00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,120<br>she also has a travel blog called the Mindful Mermaid where she talks about mindful and<br><br>12<br>00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:05,440<br>responsible travel tips, specifically in Croatia. Her and her fiance also launched Mindful Travel<br><br>13<br>00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:11,200<br>Croatia to help travelers escape the crowds and discover authentic Croatia. In this episode,<br><br>14<br>00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,160<br>we're going to learn about her decision to move to Croatia and some of her best travel advice.<br><br>15<br>00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,720<br>Alex, thanks for coming on the podcast. Yeah, thanks so much for having me. I'm super excited<br><br>16<br>00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:25,360<br>to be here. Yeah, we're just talking about how my power is going out. So I appreciate you working<br><br>17<br>00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,880<br>through that with me. I've had that happen to me on a couple of Zoom calls with clients from the<br><br>18<br>00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,080<br>US and I'm just like, yep, I don't know, they decided they're doing some work today. They're<br><br>19<br>00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:42,000<br>turning out the power. I just found out that's kind of how it goes here sometimes. Well, yeah,<br><br>20<br>00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:48,040<br>we're not too far away. I'm in Makarska right now. You're over in Dubrovnik. Yep. But originally,<br><br>21<br>00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,920<br>you're from Minnesota, from the US. You know, talk a little about your background. You know,<br><br>22<br>00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:58,240<br>you have Croatian heritage. You know, talk a little bit about that. Yeah. Yeah. So I grew up<br><br>23<br>00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:05,120<br>in the Twin Cities of Minnesota. My great grandparents were Croatian. So my grandpa was<br><br>24<br>00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:12,360<br>100%. And that makes me like a quarter, you know, us Americans always talking percentages. But my<br><br>25<br>00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:19,640<br>grandpa was always still quite connected to his heritage. He grew up in Chicago and grew up in a<br><br>26<br>00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:25,000<br>neighborhood where it was a lot of, you know, people from the Balkan region and, you know,<br><br>27<br>00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:31,160<br>Croatian roots. So he grew up and he, you know, was using phrases here and there. And like,<br><br>28<br>00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:37,400<br>I would just hear his stories about his family. And then my family that lives in Chicago, they're<br><br>29<br>00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:46,440<br>still, you know, Croatian pride somewhat. But yeah, I didn't really reconnect to my Croatian<br><br>30<br>00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:53,560<br>heritage until college. So I grew up in the Twin Cities. And then I went to Chicago for college,<br><br>31<br>00:02:53,560 --> 00:03:00,200<br>Loyola University. And through meeting a little bit more of my extended relatives and saw that<br><br>32<br>00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:06,960<br>there was a really big Croatian population there. I was kind of becoming more intrigued with the<br><br>33<br>00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:14,840<br>idea of potentially going back to visit. So I had found a study abroad program. I was studying<br><br>34<br>00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:22,160<br>political science. And it was a study abroad program in Dubrovnik with diplomacy and international<br><br>35<br>00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:30,360<br>business for a semester. So yeah, I kind of decided to come for a semester and had a really good<br><br>36<br>00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:38,360<br>time. Met my now fiancee in school. And at the time, I wasn't thinking it was going to be this big<br><br>37<br>00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:45,560<br>thing that I would end up moving back here. But I eventually did. And kind of through me, actually,<br><br>38<br>00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:52,920<br>like my mom has now become more interested in our heritage. And even my grandpa, like he, you know,<br><br>39<br>00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,760<br>pulled out all of these old documents about like where his family's from. And my mom and I actually<br><br>40<br>00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:04,280<br>went and like met distant relatives that are like, I don't know, or like third or fourth cousins or<br><br>41<br>00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:11,240<br>something around Rieka. So it's kind of interesting that like generations later, I came and rediscovered<br><br>42<br>00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:18,600<br>my heritage. And it's also kind of inspired my whole family to reconnect some way as well.<br><br>43<br>00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:24,520<br>Yeah, that's very cool. And is your mom now out here as well? Or back in Chicago?<br><br>44<br>00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:30,120<br>No, she's back in the Twin Cities of Minnesota, but she comes and visits quite a bit. She actually<br><br>45<br>00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:37,720<br>got remarried and had her wedding here in 2017. So she really loves it here. I think eventually,<br><br>46<br>00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,400<br>her and my stepdad will probably end up being here for part of the year as well. So,<br><br>47<br>00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:49,560<br>and of course, when she got married here, like all of our family came and some of our<br><br>48<br>00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,960<br>distant relatives that we hadn't talked to for so long, but had reconnected through creation<br><br>49<br>00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:01,320<br>heritage. So yeah, it's been kind of cool. Like it all started with me coming here to study abroad,<br><br>50<br>00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:07,240<br>and it's kind of expanded beyond just me. It's like now my whole family is reconnecting to roots.<br><br>51<br>00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,600<br>Yeah, it's pretty cool. You got the whole family involved now. Yeah. You said,<br><br>52<br>00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:16,440<br>um, actually, my little sister is also going to Loyola, Chicago right now and studying political<br><br>53<br>00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,720<br>science there. Wow. So maybe I'll have to connect. Yeah, small world after connect you guys maybe,<br><br>54<br>00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:27,240<br>and you can give her some tips on being over there and the Croatian community over there. I<br><br>55<br>00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:33,320<br>know she's been trying to, you know, I guess there's two churches in the area. She's been trying to,<br><br>56<br>00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,200<br>you know, get involved a little bit over there. So yeah, definitely, I can connect with her. Although<br><br>57<br>00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:43,880<br>I went a totally different route than than political science. I'm not doing any politics here in<br><br>58<br>00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:52,120<br>Croatia. But I originally was like pre law. My mom is a criminal defense lawyer, and it was kind of<br><br>59<br>00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:58,520<br>the thought that I would go that route as well. So I was like really trying to get the best grades<br><br>60<br>00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:05,800<br>and get into a good law school. But it was really kind of my semester abroad here that solidified,<br><br>61<br>00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,040<br>okay, I don't think I'm going to do law school for right now. I really want to do something a<br><br>62<br>00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:16,280<br>little bit more creative and travel. And then now I do digital marketing and working tourism. But<br><br>63<br>00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:23,880<br>funny how life kind of turns out. I wouldn't have imagined myself here 10 years ago. Yeah.<br><br>64<br>00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,800<br>Yeah, even for me, the same way even two years ago, I would have said, wow, you know, I'm living in<br><br>65<br>00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:34,040<br>Croatia and I'll be living in Croatia in two years. It's kind of crazy. So when you studied abroad<br><br>66<br>00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:39,000<br>in Dubrovnik, had you ever, was that your first time in Croatia? That was my first time. I literally<br><br>67<br>00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:46,280<br>didn't know anyone. I know this sounds maybe cheesy, but I just felt like I had this really strong<br><br>68<br>00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:52,200<br>pull to come back here. I was actually considering either a program here in Dubrovnik or Prague.<br><br>69<br>00:06:52,200 --> 00:07:00,200<br>But I was like, no, like I just feel like I should go to Croatia. And yeah, I came here and it just<br><br>70<br>00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,160<br>felt very like serendipitous. Like I kind of just felt like I was coming home for the first time.<br><br>71<br>00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:13,160<br>Like I had been here before. And yeah, it's kind of interesting how it worked out that way. I mean,<br><br>72<br>00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:18,760<br>it sounds like crazy. Like I didn't know anyone. I wasn't even going with a friend. And it was also<br><br>73<br>00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:25,640<br>kind of like not a well known program in my university. So I had to even like petition them to<br><br>74<br>00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:31,720<br>you know, give me the college credit. So I really worked hard and saved up, you know, money to come<br><br>75<br>00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:37,480<br>here. And little did I know that it would be kind of the catalyst for this whole new life.<br><br>76<br>00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,840<br>What was that experience like for you when you when you finally came?<br><br>77<br>00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:50,440<br>I loved it. Yeah, it was it was like 20 of us Americans here. And then we were in a local<br><br>78<br>00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:57,400<br>school here called Libertas. So we were like mixed with creations as well. And I liked that<br><br>79<br>00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:03,720<br>aspect of it. So we weren't you know, just with all like Americans. And it was great, like,<br><br>80<br>00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,040<br>since it's a small school in general, we all kind of got to know each other quite well. And<br><br>81<br>00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:14,520<br>that's how I ended up meeting Domenico, my now fiance. And you know, we came at the beginning<br><br>82<br>00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:20,440<br>of the year. So we came at the end of January early February. And we had like the entire old<br><br>83<br>00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:26,200<br>town to ourself, there was like two, three bars open. So it was just kind of like we had this,<br><br>84<br>00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:32,680<br>you know, UNESCO World, you know, protected heritage site as our is our backyard. And<br><br>85<br>00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:39,240<br>yeah, it was it was a really great experience. Was that a big transition from January into<br><br>86<br>00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,320<br>sort of the start of the summer? We'd be like, wow, such a quiet town. And, you know,<br><br>87<br>00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:48,920<br>yeah, over here. Yeah, I mean, back then it was still quite busy. It's gotten that was 2015.<br><br>88<br>00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:55,160<br>It's gotten way busier since. But yeah, it was quite a transition. I feel like that's also why<br><br>89<br>00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:01,160<br>I have like a soft spot for the winter and the off season here, why I'm telling people, you know,<br><br>90<br>00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:06,360<br>you should consider coming here when it's not summer. Obviously, winter is not for everyone,<br><br>91<br>00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:11,240<br>because some people want to come here and, you know, have access to all the places. But I've<br><br>92<br>00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,120<br>talked to a lot of people that are like, I want to see the sites when no one else is here. And<br><br>93<br>00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:22,360<br>that's like the perfect time to come. Because it's it's really surreal to be like walking through the<br><br>94<br>00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:29,080<br>old town and really the only, you know, tourists there is maybe a couple here and there, but then<br><br>95<br>00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:34,520<br>it's just kids playing football or soccer, like on the Stratun, you know, so that's really magical.<br><br>96<br>00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,280<br>Yeah, it's definitely something different to see sort of the the local life rather than, you know,<br><br>97<br>00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:45,240<br>the life with the tourists. For sure. But in my opinion, I mean, both you should<br><br>98<br>00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:50,680<br>see both, you know, at some point, just so you're able to get both those experiences and compare them.<br><br>99<br>00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:56,200<br>Absolutely. Well, Alex, tell me a little about what happened after, you know, your study abroad<br><br>100<br>00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,320<br>ended, you go back to the States, how did you end up moving back to Croatia after that?<br><br>101<br>00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:07,560<br>Yeah, so that really wasn't my plan. So I was a junior when I studied abroad, I went back my<br><br>102<br>00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:15,240<br>senior year and, you know, finish up school, I was working, kind of living the typical like city life.<br><br>103<br>00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:20,440<br>And I had thought I would stay on a little bit longer. But I was just really burned out after<br><br>104<br>00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:27,480<br>my senior year and I was doing long distance. So after I graduated, my present from my mom was<br><br>105<br>00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:35,560<br>a one way ticket back to Croatia. So I went back and I was here for the summer. During that time,<br><br>106<br>00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:42,520<br>I launched my travel blog, the Mindful Mermaid. And I pretty much started it as more of like a<br><br>107<br>00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:49,960<br>hobby blog of just talking about, you know, my life, or my summer rather, like being in Croatia<br><br>108<br>00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:58,280<br>and travels around Europe. Yeah, and then it kind of just turned into my blog picked up a little bit<br><br>109<br>00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:04,520<br>more publicity, I guess, because I wrote a couple of like experiences, my first creation wedding<br><br>110<br>00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:10,680<br>experience, like what it's like living in the Croatian village. And it got picked up in like<br><br>111<br>00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:17,320<br>a couple of local newspapers and translated to Croatian. So it started to gating more momentum.<br><br>112<br>00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:23,640<br>I started writing some like cultural columns and a newspaper here, an English speaking newspaper.<br><br>113<br>00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:30,760<br>So yeah, that's when I first started that. But unfortunately, this was back in 2016, there<br><br>114<br>00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:37,960<br>wasn't as many foreigners here in Dubrovnik that were my age, first of all. And second of all,<br><br>115<br>00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:43,800<br>I could not figure out the job situation. So Domenico and I actually moved to Ireland for one<br><br>116<br>00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:50,680<br>year. And I worked in we lived in Cork and I worked as an international study abroad advisor.<br><br>117<br>00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:58,040<br>And that was really good experience. Now, when I was there, I was actually like running a summer<br><br>118<br>00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:04,360<br>study abroad program. And during that time, there was a lot of like group organization where I was<br><br>119<br>00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:10,440<br>like organizing like outings for them and group tours and all that. That kind of planted some<br><br>120<br>00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:16,600<br>seeds where I was like, Hey, you know, I could be doing this in Croatia, which is which spoilers<br><br>121<br>00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:24,280<br>what I am doing now. But also during that time, I was really building my blog and turning it more<br><br>122<br>00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,880<br>from a hobby blog to kind of like monetizing it a little bit more, I kind of shifted away from just<br><br>123<br>00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:36,200<br>like Croatian culture, you know, pieces where I was talking about living here where it was just<br><br>124<br>00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:42,120<br>more general travel guides and focusing on like the mindful and responsible travel aspect. So<br><br>125<br>00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:49,000<br>yeah, as my year in Croatia in Ireland started to come to an end, I really just wanted to experiment<br><br>126<br>00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:58,440<br>with coming back to Croatia, seeing if I could build out my travel blog and monetize it. I was<br><br>127<br>00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,560<br>also doing some freelance stuff, digital marketing. So I thought, okay, maybe I could do that full<br><br>128<br>00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:11,320<br>time to support myself. So I ended up leaving Ireland and you know, it was difficult at first,<br><br>129<br>00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:19,160<br>but I was able to build my blog to monetize it through ads, affiliate links, all that was also<br><br>130<br>00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:25,640<br>freelancing. And then within about a year and a half, we started getting a lot of inquiries,<br><br>131<br>00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:31,240<br>mainly through my blog. People were asking about you know, how to travel to Croatia and all that.<br><br>132<br>00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:41,240<br>So I started doing a little bit more travel stuff as well. We organized a couple group tours.<br><br>133<br>00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:48,520<br>This was in 2019 couple group tours, a destination wedding, started doing more like custom itineraries<br><br>134<br>00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:54,200<br>and stuff and then launched our travel business, Mindful Travel Croatia, which is you know, kind of<br><br>135<br>00:13:54,200 --> 00:14:01,400<br>a branch off of the Mindful Mermaid. Yeah, and then we also had an opportunity to build our<br><br>136<br>00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:07,800<br>apartment and build a second one that we would rent out. So it all just kind of came together<br><br>137<br>00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:15,640<br>like that, but it's definitely not been all sunshine and rainbows. It's been a lot of hard<br><br>138<br>00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:21,080<br>work and I feel like when I first came here, I saw so much potential in building a life here.<br><br>139<br>00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:28,200<br>And it just has taken some time to finally get that all together. And especially with the pandemic,<br><br>140<br>00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:35,560<br>too, it was like for two years, two plus years, kind of having to just be patient for things to<br><br>141<br>00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:41,400<br>go back to normal. And luckily now it's been quite busy with tourism and they would have<br><br>142<br>00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:47,400<br>made this summer that starting to see yeah, the light at the end of the tunnel and all the<br><br>143<br>00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:55,720<br>seeds that I planted kind of coming and blooming. So I wanted to go in a little more detail about<br><br>144<br>00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,520<br>you know, living here because you know, back in the US, we talk a lot about the American dream.<br><br>145<br>00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:07,560<br>Right. Can you sort of compare and contrast that to now your experience here living in Croatia?<br><br>146<br>00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,280<br>I mean, is there similarities? Is it completely different? I think it's completely different.<br><br>147<br>00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:18,200<br>And that's honestly something that I have struggled with somewhat. I think you know,<br><br>148<br>00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:27,400<br>the American dream is really that you know, if there's like a if there's a will, there's a way<br><br>149<br>00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:33,160<br>whether or not that's true, but that just that you can build yourself up and it's all about<br><br>150<br>00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:41,800<br>a lot of it is very focused on like the career sense. And I think that growing up in the US,<br><br>151<br>00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:49,560<br>I kind of really attached my own personal identity with my career and you know, how much money I was<br><br>152<br>00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:56,440<br>making. Whereas in Croatia, I mean, yeah, people do work hard and people have careers and all that,<br><br>153<br>00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,920<br>but there's just not so much of an emphasis on that being like your entire personality.<br><br>154<br>00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,680<br>I have friends where it's like, it wasn't until the third or fourth time we were hanging out that<br><br>155<br>00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:13,560<br>I even found out what they do. That's just not people's entire, you know, conversation and their<br><br>156<br>00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:22,440<br>entire identity. So I think that the Croatian dream is a little bit more relaxed and having<br><br>157<br>00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:31,000<br>more of a work life balance. It's not about having absolutely everything, it's just having<br><br>158<br>00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:37,560<br>enough to be comfortable. Whereas I think in the US, it's like, you know, it's just kind of sometimes<br><br>159<br>00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:44,360<br>an emphasis on like infinite growth, infinite, like always, you know, looking for the next best thing.<br><br>160<br>00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:51,080<br>And in Croatia, I think it's about kind of just appreciating what you have and you don't need<br><br>161<br>00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:58,600<br>to have everything as long as you, you know, have enough and you're happy and that your identity is<br><br>162<br>00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:07,560<br>not just based on what you do for work. Yeah, I agree. But are those sort of differences something<br><br>163<br>00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,760<br>that you, you know, you're on board with here in Croatia or do you miss some of those so-called<br><br>164<br>00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:18,680<br>American ideals or, I mean, are you really accustomed now to the Croatian lifestyle?<br><br>165<br>00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:25,320<br>Yeah, I would say for the most part I am. I mean, I think subconscious, no, and subconsciously,<br><br>166<br>00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,280<br>I definitely still have some things about the US that it's like, it's been really hard for me to<br><br>167<br>00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:39,880<br>kind of change. But I 100% think that Croatia has a way more healthy approach to lifestyle. And I do<br><br>168<br>00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:48,200<br>think that the Croatian dream is, is healthier in a lot of ways than the American dream and to not be<br><br>169<br>00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:55,720<br>just so focused on like having your entire identity around what you do for a living.<br><br>170<br>00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,840<br>Yeah, that's definitely, I think, a big difference between here and over there.<br><br>171<br>00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,640<br>You know, while you were living in Dubrovnik during the study abroad,<br><br>172<br>00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:11,240<br>you know, did you sort of have any expectations about, you know, if you were thinking back then,<br><br>173<br>00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:16,520<br>oh, I could see myself living here. I don't know, did you, did you have any sort of expectations<br><br>174<br>00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:22,840<br>about living in Croatia, that when you actually came here and lived here, you know, it sort of<br><br>175<br>00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,360<br>changed your perspective or you thought, wow, that's not how I was expecting?<br><br>176<br>00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:31,400<br>Yeah. To be honest, when I studied abroad here, I mean, it was great, it was so magical, but it was<br><br>177<br>00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:37,800<br>very different than actually living here. So I did have a bit of a shock when I went from, you know,<br><br>178<br>00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:44,200<br>I was living in around the old town, in my own apartment, or had a couple of roommates,<br><br>179<br>00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:51,560<br>to then living in like the Croatian village with my boyfriend at the time, now a fiance,<br><br>180<br>00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:58,360<br>and his family. I was like, I mean, I literally came from like living in Chicago to living in<br><br>181<br>00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:05,480<br>this smaller, and I'm like, what did I sign up for? No, I mean, I've learned to appreciate it,<br><br>182<br>00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:11,000<br>but it was still very different. And I definitely think I was a little naive in some ways,<br><br>183<br>00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:16,920<br>but it would be so easy for me to like find a job when I first came here. It came back here,<br><br>184<br>00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:22,520<br>and then, you know, we left for Ireland, but it's gotten a lot better. I personally, I don't work<br><br>185<br>00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:29,240<br>now for a Croatian company, I work for myself, but I know I have other, you know, friends that<br><br>186<br>00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:35,720<br>are living here that are expats and stuff, and they're now working for a Croatian company,<br><br>187<br>00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,760<br>or they're working remotely for a company from Zagreb, like there's a lot more opportunities<br><br>188<br>00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:46,520<br>especially since things have gone remote. That has opened a lot of doors, but back in 2016,<br><br>189<br>00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:53,000<br>it was, and especially here in Dubrovnik, yeah, there was a lot more limited options.<br><br>190<br>00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:59,080<br>Yeah, well, it's definitely easier to work remotely now for sure. And I know with the digital nomad<br><br>191<br>00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,880<br>visas, I mean, a lot of people are coming to Croatia and, you know, living here and then working<br><br>192<br>00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,280<br>remotely for, you know, companies in other countries as well. So that's something that's<br><br>193<br>00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:14,440<br>gotten easier over the years. Right. Well, and I remember when I came back in 2017, and people<br><br>194<br>00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,560<br>were like, what do you do for work? And I'm like, well, I have my blog and I'm, you know, freelancing<br><br>195<br>00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,520<br>for a couple of companies out of the US, and they're like, what? Like, I don't get it. Like, I was like,<br><br>196<br>00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:30,040<br>one of the first digital nomads here in Dubrovnik, and like local people did not understand it.<br><br>197<br>00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,520<br>And now it's become more normalized where there's more digital nomads and stuff coming.<br><br>198<br>00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,800<br>But yeah, it's kind of interesting because it's like working remotely in creation culture is not<br><br>199<br>00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:46,760<br>really as much of a thing because they're so like community based, which I love. But it was really<br><br>200<br>00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:54,680<br>only that period of time in the pandemic that a lot of people were working remotely. A lot of<br><br>201<br>00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,960<br>people, it's like they, you know, they want everyone in the office to kind of meet each other. But<br><br>202<br>00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:05,320<br>yeah, I think that's kind of interesting that a lot of digital nomads are coming here. But I wouldn't<br><br>203<br>00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:11,800<br>say it's that common for creations to be like working remotely. I don't know. Yeah, I think that's<br><br>204<br>00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:18,920<br>still, I mean, one of the aspects of sort of working and maybe also with the technological<br><br>205<br>00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:24,200<br>infrastructure here. I mean, that's still, of course, compared to the US a little behind.<br><br>206<br>00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:30,600<br>You mentioned Alex, the Mindful Mermaid, you know, you're sort of your blog and, you know,<br><br>207<br>00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:37,640<br>you're also running a travel, I don't know if I can call it travel agency or a travel agency.<br><br>208<br>00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:43,400<br>What sort of content are you posting specifically on Mindful Mermaid and your blog? Because I know<br><br>209<br>00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:49,400<br>you have a TikTok and Instagram, and you talk a little about, you know, Croatian cultural<br><br>210<br>00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:55,400<br>content. What sort of things are you posting on there? Yeah, so the blog and my social media kind<br><br>211<br>00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,840<br>of have different purposes. So my blog has all sorts of like in-depth travel guides, some in-depth<br><br>212<br>00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:07,960<br>information about responsible and mindful travel. And just as an aside for people that aren't familiar<br><br>213<br>00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:13,640<br>with responsible travel, that's basically travel, you know, you know, you can do a lot of<br><br>214<br>00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:19,640<br>aside for people that aren't familiar with responsible travel. That's basically travel that<br><br>215<br>00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:26,280<br>minimizes negative social, economic, and environmental impacts and basically benefit<br><br>216<br>00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:32,360<br>locals as much as possible. So the whole content and content of Mindful Mermaid is like teaching<br><br>217<br>00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:40,280<br>people to be more responsible travelers and also focus a lot on like the immersive cultural aspect.<br><br>218<br>00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:47,240<br>So that's kind of where my blog is at. That's like in-depth people wanting to plan itineraries.<br><br>219<br>00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:54,680<br>And not just in Croatia, I have content across Europe and the US. Whereas my Instagram and TikTok,<br><br>220<br>00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:04,040<br>I primarily focus on Croatia travel and lifestyle. I used to have more of a general<br><br>221<br>00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:11,720<br>travel specifically like responsible travel. But in the pandemic, specifically when I couldn't travel<br><br>222<br>00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:18,760<br>much outside of Croatia, I started posting more content about Croatia and posted a couple kind<br><br>223<br>00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:25,800<br>of funny cultural comparisons. And they really took off on TikTok right now. It's really popular<br><br>224<br>00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:32,280<br>for like expats. There's like a huge need for like expats Americans living abroad talking about<br><br>225<br>00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:37,000<br>the different countries or cities that they live in. So I was like, okay, well, I should talk a<br><br>226<br>00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,400<br>little bit about living in Croatia, living in Dubrovnik. So I started making more content<br><br>227<br>00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:47,320<br>surrounding that and that kind of took off. So yeah, my social media is a little bit more like<br><br>228<br>00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:54,360<br>kind of through, you know, seeing Croatia through my eyes, but also, you know, a lot of tidbits of,<br><br>229<br>00:23:54,360 --> 00:24:05,160<br>you know, Croatia travel as well. But yeah, the blog and the social media have kind of,<br><br>230<br>00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:12,360<br>they have slightly different purposes. What's sort of your most viral video on social media or<br><br>231<br>00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:20,680<br>piece of content? Yeah, so a couple of them have blown up. One of them was basically my fiance<br><br>232<br>00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:28,280<br>was dressed as like Baba, like the Croatian like grandmas that are, you know, around and basically,<br><br>233<br>00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,600<br>let's say like every little neighborhood or village has one and she's like over on the<br><br>234<br>00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,880<br>balcony like looking so it was like Croatian security cameras. And it was like a little song<br><br>235<br>00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,760<br>and it was like what's popping and she's like, don't mind me just watching. And then I don't know if<br><br>236<br>00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:51,960<br>you saw the Netflix show inventing Anna, where she's like pretending that she has money or whatever,<br><br>237<br>00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,440<br>but there's like a little clip from there where she's saying, what are you wearing? Why are you<br><br>238<br>00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:02,200<br>dressed like that? Like you look poor. So I did a video where it was like, when I first showed up<br><br>239<br>00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:08,280<br>in Croatia in like my American athleisure wear. So it was like me dressed in my athleisure wear<br><br>240<br>00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:14,920<br>and then another one like me dressed up and it was like, basically, people saying that like I<br><br>241<br>00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,120<br>shouldn't be wearing that out because that is kind of a thing here like, okay, yes, you can wear your<br><br>242<br>00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:26,440<br>athleisure wear if you're going for walks, but in general Croatian dress, a lot nicer, I would say<br><br>243<br>00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:32,200<br>than the average American, it's just a cultural thing. Yeah, so sometimes I just make these like<br><br>244<br>00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,880<br>little 10 seconds videos and some of them have taken off. But I also have a lot of content too<br><br>245<br>00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,960<br>that it's just like tips on visiting Dubrovnik, just made one today like how to avoid the crowds<br><br>246<br>00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:52,440<br>in Croatia. Yeah, and just in general, trying to help people be a little bit more informed and<br><br>247<br>00:25:52,440 --> 00:26:01,400<br>responsible travelers in Croatia and informed as well culturally. Well, speaking of being informed<br><br>248<br>00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,840<br>as part of, you know, responsible tourism and responsible travel, I want to talk a little about<br><br>249<br>00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:14,200<br>your agency, Mindful Travel Croatia. You know, what's sort of the mission of that and how can you<br><br>250<br>00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,200<br>become a more responsible tourist? What are some of those ways? Yeah, yeah, so our mission is<br><br>251<br>00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:26,200<br>essentially, as you said, we want to help travelers escape the crowds and discover authentic Croatia.<br><br>252<br>00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:33,400<br>We offer group tours, custom itineraries, travel concierge services, consultation services, all<br><br>253<br>00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:41,400<br>that. Essentially, you know, Croatia doesn't necessarily need more tourists, right? But we do<br><br>254<br>00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:48,760<br>need, we need to focus more on quality as opposed to quantity. And that's something that I've seen<br><br>255<br>00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:55,560<br>a lot here in Dubrovnik specifically. And I do think that majority of tourists that come, they do<br><br>256<br>00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:03,880<br>want to leave a positive impact behind. So I think if we can inform them a little bit more, people<br><br>257<br>00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,480<br>can make better choices. So a couple of ways that I would say to be a more responsible<br><br>258<br>00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:17,080<br>traveler here in Croatia is one, the biggest thing is traveling outside of the main tourist season,<br><br>259<br>00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:26,040<br>which is, you know, end of June to end of August. And then also, you know, people can stay a bit<br><br>260<br>00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:31,640<br>outside of the city center as an example. So many tourists, they come here in Dubrovnik,<br><br>261<br>00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:38,520<br>don't do a lot of research, and they don't really understand that you can stay really anywhere<br><br>262<br>00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:45,720<br>between Dubrovnik to Savta and even beyond that. They just want to stay concentrated in the old<br><br>263<br>00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:54,200<br>town. So that causes a lot of just crowds in the old town traffic, all that. But also, there are so<br><br>264<br>00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:01,480<br>many nicer, not nicer, I should say, but nice villages and other parts of town that you can<br><br>265<br>00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:09,080<br>stay and you can take a boat ride into Dubrovnik. So that kind of helps spread out the crowds,<br><br>266<br>00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:15,080<br>obviously staying in locally owned accommodation. If you're going to stay in a hotel, maybe a<br><br>267<br>00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:21,560<br>boutique hotel that's locally owned, you can also, you know, visit some of these agrotourism<br><br>268<br>00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:27,640<br>experiences that's a little bit more immersive where they have like Pekka or something and<br><br>269<br>00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:35,240<br>there it's farmed a table. And then also, I think just doing some research about the history and<br><br>270<br>00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:42,440<br>the culture. I sometimes have people come here to Dubrovnik and, you know, they're asking questions of<br><br>271<br>00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:50,440<br>how long has Dubrovnik had the walls up? And I had one person ask me, when do they take the walls<br><br>272<br>00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:57,880<br>down for the Game of Thrones filming? I mean, they had no idea that there's this really extensive<br><br>273<br>00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:05,320<br>history where Dubrovnik was like a republic. So I think, yeah, some of it goes to, we have to inform<br><br>274<br>00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:12,680<br>travelers better, but also travelers do need to take some responsibility and do some, learn<br><br>275<br>00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:19,640<br>some history, learn more about the culture. So we kind of try to bridge that gap. And we're finding<br><br>276<br>00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:26,440<br>especially this year, I would say that a lot of our clients are really interested in those things.<br><br>277<br>00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:32,040<br>And I don't know if there's been some sort of shift after the pandemic, but a lot of<br><br>278<br>00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:38,440<br>travelers, they do want to meet locals and they do want to have a more immersive experience,<br><br>279<br>00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:44,520<br>as opposed to just checking things off of the bucket list. So that's something that I try to<br><br>280<br>00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:51,960<br>provide through my blog and then now also through our travel business. And it's cool to see that<br><br>281<br>00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:58,920<br>shift. And I hope that, you know, maybe if some airlines can extend their flight paths to various<br><br>282<br>00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:06,680<br>creation cities, that could, you know, have help us extend the tourist season, especially with,<br><br>283<br>00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:13,000<br>you know, I know you live in Zagreb, like Zagreb has amazing advent, you know, Christmas<br><br>284<br>00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:19,240<br>festival and in the winter and so many other creation cities do too. It would be really cool<br><br>285<br>00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:26,120<br>if we could see, you know, some of the people that are more interested in the cultural aspect come<br><br>286<br>00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:34,040<br>in the winter. I do think Zagreb sort of does the best job of promoting itself as a sort of year<br><br>287<br>00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,240<br>round city, which I mean, of course, is the capital city. That's a lot easier to do. I wanted to<br><br>288<br>00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,840<br>backtrack for a second. Were you saying people, tourists were thinking the walls in Dubrovnik<br><br>289<br>00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:51,320<br>were only put up for the Game of Thrones? I did have someone say that to me. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.<br><br>290<br>00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:57,480<br>That's crazy. Oh, yeah. There's a few of those too.<br><br>291<br>00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:07,160<br>Wow. Yeah. I mean, I'm definitely supporting being a mindful tourist. And if those are some of the,<br><br>292<br>00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,160<br>I mean, I guess if you go to a place you've never been before, you don't know anything.<br><br>293<br>00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,440<br>Yeah. I mean, I guess that's it. You don't know anything. But yeah, it makes sense to sort of,<br><br>294<br>00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:21,080<br>I mean, you should know something or have it based knowledge of things that you're able to,<br><br>295<br>00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:27,400<br>you know, learn the more in-depth details or, you know, have questions based around the knowledge<br><br>296<br>00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,880<br>that you already know. Right. Of course, you can't expect people to like know everything in the<br><br>297<br>00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:37,720<br>whole history. But I think it's important that people take maybe a walking tour of some sort,<br><br>298<br>00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:44,200<br>or maybe go to a museum or do something to learn about the history. I think that's important<br><br>299<br>00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:51,080<br>when traveling to Croatia that has so much extensive history, but just anywhere in general.<br><br>300<br>00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,360<br>And I would say a majority of people, you know, aren't asking those type of questions, but there<br><br>301<br>00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:03,640<br>are definitely, definitely some that they, yeah, they just haven't heard of anything<br><br>302<br>00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:09,320<br>prior to coming. You mentioned thinning out the crowds. I know that's a big problem in,<br><br>303<br>00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:16,760<br>you know, a lot of most of the coastal, you know, tourist-oriented cities over here.<br><br>304<br>00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,560<br>I'm in Mokavskala, like I said, right now, and I know that locals can't even park overnight.<br><br>305<br>00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,360<br>There's no space for parking over here. And I know parking, you know, all across the coast is<br><br>306<br>00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,080<br>extremely difficult in the summer. So yeah, definitely, I mean, moving away from<br><br>307<br>00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,440<br>even just from the city center, even staying a little bit outside the city center, you know,<br><br>308<br>00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,720<br>I'm sure can help with that. Right. Oh, it's the same thing here. Like we, in the summer,<br><br>309<br>00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:47,160<br>I don't even go into the old town and most locals don't either because there's nowhere to park.<br><br>310<br>00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,080<br>I mean, this is a problem with the city itself, but the prices for parking like double.<br><br>311<br>00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,720<br>And then in our little area that we live, there's a lot of nice beaches and it's great that people<br><br>312<br>00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:06,200<br>come over here, but they'll just kind of make up parking spots on like the actual road and then<br><br>313<br>00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:13,400<br>driving down that road in itself kind of becomes a challenge. So yeah, there's a lot of makeshift<br><br>314<br>00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,480<br>parking, that's for sure. Oh, definitely. It's just wherever there's sort of room to fit,<br><br>315<br>00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:23,640<br>you can park there. Yeah. Even in Zagreb, I noticed it's funny, not so much for parking,<br><br>316<br>00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,400<br>you know, like overnight and staying at long periods of time, but there's almost like,<br><br>317<br>00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,200<br>it's like an express lane check out for parking. You just sort of pull over on the side of the road<br><br>318<br>00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,080<br>with the hazards on and you can go to the store and or a pekka to grab a couple things and then<br><br>319<br>00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,400<br>get back in the car and enjoy the ride. Yeah, literally. That's so funny you mentioned that<br><br>320<br>00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,520<br>because that's actually been one of my biggest, I would say like challenges other than the language,<br><br>321<br>00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:52,760<br>but it's like driving here, especially in coastal Croatia. I mean, I've been driving now,<br><br>322<br>00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:59,000<br>I got my license over 10 years ago when I was 16 in the US, but like it took me a couple years to<br><br>323<br>00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,880<br>get used to driving here. Like you really just have to be like move it or lose it people. And<br><br>324<br>00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:09,720<br>you really have to be confident about just like parking somewhere. And I'm like in my head, I'm<br><br>325<br>00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:13,160<br>like, I don't know, this isn't quite proper. And then the creation show, like, no, you're only<br><br>326<br>00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:19,480<br>going to be for like five minutes, just do it. Like you really have to like gain this new creation<br><br>327<br>00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:26,440<br>confidence, if you will. Yeah. Yeah, especially with driving, everyone is so like you have to be<br><br>328<br>00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,600<br>confident, you know, everyone just makes up their mind what they're going to do when they do it.<br><br>329<br>00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:36,040<br>You know, you can't hesitate, you can't. Exactly. It's just it's hard to describe. But yeah, it's<br><br>330<br>00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:41,320<br>you have to have a certain mindset, I guess, to drive over here. You mentioned the language I saw<br><br>331<br>00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,800<br>on I think it was a Facebook post from you that you had started to learn corrosion.<br><br>332<br>00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:55,560<br>Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's it's going. Creation is very difficult. It was actually listed as the<br><br>333<br>00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:01,800<br>top five hardest languages for native English speakers. So of course, I knew like, you know,<br><br>334<br>00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:08,600<br>the swear words and some other basic phrases before I came. But it really hasn't been until<br><br>335<br>00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:17,320<br>like the last two years that I've been taking like language classes. Yeah, I mean, I, my goal is<br><br>336<br>00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:24,680<br>obviously to be fluent at some point, but I'm not quite there yet. With all the potage, which is<br><br>337<br>00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:31,720<br>like the creation grammar, that can be quite difficult. Because then I get in my head, like<br><br>338<br>00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:40,520<br>if I'm using the ending properly or not. But yeah, I mean, it's it's a work in progress. And I do get<br><br>339<br>00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:45,880<br>so like I would say I'm a pretty confident person, but I get really like self conscious with speaking<br><br>340<br>00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:51,480<br>creation. And it's hard too, because obviously creations don't mean anything by it. But when<br><br>341<br>00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,560<br>you have people be like, Oh, that was so cute, like you said this, and you messed up, and it's<br><br>342<br>00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:02,280<br>like you're in your head a little too much. But it's one of those things you just have to<br><br>343<br>00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,720<br>like accept it and also like driving just like be confident. And if you're going to make a mistake,<br><br>344<br>00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:15,720<br>like make it loudly. And yeah, hmm, now I don't know if we mentioned that before, but is that part<br><br>345<br>00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:22,200<br>of being a mindful tourist? Or do you do involve that at all in, you know, sort of mindful traveling,<br><br>346<br>00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:30,040<br>learning the local language? Or so I say with Croatia that I mean, obviously English is widely<br><br>347<br>00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,920<br>spoken. But I do think it's really important that whenever you're traveling somewhere, you should<br><br>348<br>00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:42,680<br>learn like some basic phrases, don't be done, follow, you know, just basic, please. Thank you,<br><br>349<br>00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:51,160<br>Mollin. So yeah, I mean, I don't think it's necessary to be like, fluently speaking when<br><br>350<br>00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:58,040<br>you come to Croatia. But I do think that's important that travelers don't like expect that<br><br>351<br>00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:04,120<br>everyone is going to speak English, you know, I mean, yeah, English is creations have one of the<br><br>352<br>00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:09,960<br>highest English language proficiencies, but of course, you can't expect everyone. So you should<br><br>353<br>00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:20,200<br>know some basic phrases. Alex, sort of as we're winding down here with the episode, I want to<br><br>354<br>00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,240<br>ask what sort of future plans do you have, both, you know, for yourself and for your blog and your<br><br>355<br>00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:32,280<br>travel agency? Well, I'm planning on expand, sorry, if you can hear my dog in the background,<br><br>356<br>00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:39,720<br>just creation village things. We have a tourniac, it's like a creation Bosnian shepherding dog,<br><br>357<br>00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:47,320<br>and she's just whining at something outside. So future plans, plan on expanding with more<br><br>358<br>00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:55,000<br>Croatia travel guides and content over the next six months on the blog, we'll continue to be posting<br><br>359<br>00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:03,640<br>more culture and travel tips on Instagram, the mindful mermaid, and TikTok as well. And then in<br><br>360<br>00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:11,240<br>2023, we are going to be expanding our business mindful travel Croatia a bit more. And then,<br><br>361<br>00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:18,840<br>yeah, I mean, I think we're hoping to be doing some travel a bit more around Croatia. We're also<br><br>362<br>00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:24,680<br>planning a Croatian wet Croatian American wedding right now, which I'll just add, which is interesting<br><br>363<br>00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:31,640<br>because we're kind of blending the the different cultural aspects from from both cultures.<br><br>364<br>00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:38,120<br>Wow, how's that going to work? I'm interested. Yeah, well, for those of you that don't know,<br><br>365<br>00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:43,480<br>Croatian weddings are like a marathon where they go from like noon or sometime in the afternoon,<br><br>366<br>00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,600<br>you start at like the grooms, they all go to the brides, and then you all go to the church and then<br><br>367<br>00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,120<br>waving the flags, reception. So and then it goes to like, you know, three, four in the morning,<br><br>368<br>00:38:54,120 --> 00:39:01,560<br>at least. So I'm like, okay, well, I will not be able to do all that. So let's just start at the<br><br>369<br>00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:08,760<br>church. Yeah, we're getting married in the old town, and then taking a like a boat over to a<br><br>370<br>00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:15,800<br>venue where we're having the reception. And then yeah, the reception will probably go later, but<br><br>371<br>00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:22,520<br>we were cutting down that first portion of it. And yeah, just we're kind of coming up with like<br><br>372<br>00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:28,760<br>what type of music we want, because we want it to be kind of a combination of both. And I think<br><br>373<br>00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:36,520<br>we'll probably do the flags with like a American flag and a Croatian flag. But yeah, it's been<br><br>374<br>00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,320<br>interesting like planning it when I'm like, oh, like the groom's dinner, and then my fiance is<br><br>375<br>00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,400<br>like, Oh, what's that? Like, we don't have that we have like the Thursday where they come and they<br><br>376<br>00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,160<br>like bring the presents, which is another thing too, you know, people usually give,<br><br>377<br>00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:57,800<br>have like a wedding registry, we're like here, they just give cash. So yeah, lots of interesting<br><br>378<br>00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:04,280<br>cultural differences there. Yeah, I'm sure that puts even more work on setting all that up.<br><br>379<br>00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,640<br>Yeah, yeah, for sure. But sorry to interrupt you, you can go ahead and plug in, you know,<br><br>380<br>00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,960<br>sort of where people can follow along people that want to, you know, follow your content or,<br><br>381<br>00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:20,040<br>you know, travel to Croatia, you know, your website, your social media, you know, what's your<br><br>382<br>00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:25,640<br>business information, where can people find you? Yeah. So you can if you're interested in coming<br><br>383<br>00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:32,280<br>to Croatia, and you need help planning your itinerary or, you know, anything of that sort,<br><br>384<br>00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:39,400<br>you can email us at hello at mindful travel Croatia.com. Our website is mindful travel<br><br>385<br>00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:47,880<br>Croatia.com. If you're looking for some free Croatia travel guides and other travel guides<br><br>386<br>00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:54,120<br>throughout Europe in the US mindful mermaid.com want to follow me on social media, it's on Instagram,<br><br>387<br>00:40:54,120 --> 00:41:01,880<br>the mindful mermaid separated by underscores on tick tock I'm the mindful mermaid as well. And<br><br>388<br>00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:08,200<br>yeah, that's pretty much it. Great. Well, also I'll put those in the episode description so people,<br><br>389<br>00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:14,120<br>you know, listening, you can click and find those links down below or wherever they end up on the<br><br>390<br>00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:19,560<br>page. Sure. Thank you so much. Yeah, I wanted to thank you for taking the time working with me<br><br>391<br>00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,800<br>through my power outage. Also, we're getting a nice summer rain over here. I don't know if you<br><br>392<br>00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:29,720<br>were hearing the thunder at all. Hopefully, no, I couldn't but that sounds nice. It's been so hot in<br><br>393<br>00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:37,240<br>Dubrovnik. Yeah, those occasional summer rains are always welcome. Yeah, these June, July, August<br><br>394<br>00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:41,000<br>months. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure.<br><br>395<br>00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,200<br>That's it for today's episode of the All Things Croatia podcast. Thanks for tuning in and I hope<br><br>396<br>00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,920<br>you all enjoyed it. You can subscribe to the Patreon and check out the All Things Croatia<br><br>397<br>00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:58,280<br>Instagram page to stay updated. Feel free to reach out to me with any questions, tips, or ideas,<br><br>398<br>00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:23,640<br>and make sure to tune back into the next episode. Thanks again and vidimos!<br><br>