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Welcome back to a new episode of the All Things Croatia podcast.
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I'm your host, Stanko Zovak.
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Born and raised in Los Angeles, I'm now living in Zagreb and studying the Croatian language.
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Before we start, just do me a favor and follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you're
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listening, as well as the Facebook and Instagram page.
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In this series, I'll be talking with people both in the homeland and around the globe who
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have connections to Croatia.
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We'll hear from startups, returning to Aspora, musicians and athletes, and the biggest Croatian
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celebrities at what returned my calls.
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But enough about me.
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I'm Idem Odaulje and let's get started.
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All right, welcome back to the podcast everyone.
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This week I'm speaking with the band Gavrani, a father and daughter's trio from Melbourne,
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who recently moved to Croatia and signed with Croatia Records.
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They already have a couple hit singles and we have the three members of the band here,
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Jasmine, Tamara, and their father, Mijad Gavran.
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Thanks for coming on the podcast, guys.
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Thank you for having us.
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Of course, and you know, just to start off, I'm a little bit of a musician myself, so
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mainly a guitarist.
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Yes, I'll be really critical of you guys here.
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I listened to your new song, Svirací Fualavam, and I really liked it.
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I thought it was great and I'm kind of a rock and roll guy.
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So for me, it was nice to hear the guitar influence in the song.
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I appreciated that.
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And of course, the vocals are amazing and the writing.
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But before we get into all of that, I want to get a little bit into the history behind
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the band.
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How did the band form and when?
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Yeah, in 2017, me and my sister actually started to perform in the, sorry, 2015.
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We started performing in the Croatian industry in Melbourne.
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We were just more of a duo and stuff like that, but Dad was actually with another band
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at the time.
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And as we started getting more gigs, we wanted more musicians and there was no one else that
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we wanted more than my father.
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And we actually begged him to be in the band.
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A lot of people think it would be reversed, but we actually begged him to be in the band
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because he was like, no, no one's going to want your father to be in the band with us.
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But we actually begged him and he joined.
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And then since then, we decided to stick together.
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And as Tamara started becoming a songwriter, we started working on our own music together.
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Well, you know, you just hit on one of the next questions I wanted to ask, you know,
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what's it like being in a band with your father?
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I mean, it sounds like you guys were all for it then and there was never any like, ah,
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you know, it's my dad.
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I don't want to be in a band with him.
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Yeah, no, there was none of that.
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My father actually helped teach me how to sing when I was little.
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He helped Tamara learn guitar.
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He was actually our main influence on music.
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So not only was he our father and so we trusted the most in the world, he was also our mentor.
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So it was not a problem at all.
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It was basically we were on stage and we were really young.
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It was him that we looked to and it made us feel safe to stay up there.
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So it was never a problem.
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So he taught you guys your musical talent.
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How long ago was that when you guys were kids or more recently?
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I couldn't give you a proper date or an age.
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It was all throughout our childhood.
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He was always on the stage doing music.
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He had his own studio when I was just born in the backyard.
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So it was always around us.
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A lot of musicians would come in, use the studio as well.
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So it was always around us.
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We always knew a lot of musicians and there was never a home party without a guitar out.
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And you said that you were in the Croatian scene before when you just had the duo, you
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and your sister.
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How did that start?
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How did you get started playing within the Croatian community over there in Melbourne?
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Well, funnily enough, dad was actually in the music industry.
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So he already knew in Melbourne.
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So we actually knew quite a few people in the Croatian community already.
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So we were kind of raised around those people in those Croatian clubs.
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And when we wanted the opportunity, we just had to ask.
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He paved the way for us really.
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And were you singing cover songs?
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Were you singing in English or Croatian?
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It was mainly cover songs.
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Yes, it was all cover songs, sorry.
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But it was actually mainly English when we started because it was easier for us.
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But as we obviously we all were with the Croatian community clubs at the time.
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So we had to learn a lot of Croatian songs, which we liked anyway.
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So it wasn't very hard to get onto it.
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And yeah, we fell in love with all the especially all those rock songs when we got really into
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it.
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And dad is the big rock fan also.
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Oh yeah, he was in 80s.
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He was in 80s.
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Well, that's good to hear that you got you guys into that as well.
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Do you guys remember the first time you played a Croatian song live?
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Or some of the first times or like some of the first songs that you played, maybe Croatian
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songs?
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Well, some of the first Croatian songs.
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So we're performing at Melbourne Nights, I believe was one of the first places we performed.
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And I think Springvale.
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There was a couple of, yeah, there was a couple of Croatian clubs that we'd started at at
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the beginning.
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But I have to say Melbourne Nights is probably where we started our first as governing our
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first Croatian songs were there.
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And you remember what those songs were at all or in the tune?
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No, that was too long ago.
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What were those songs?
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What did we start with?
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I couldn't tell you right now.
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Maybe Crivo i More by Divya Agudam is what we started with.
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I think that was one of the first ones.
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Yeah.
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Okay, nice.
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But we definitely didn't go up there just singing that song.
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We had a lot of songs that we had to sing through.
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So I doubt it was just that one, but it might have been the first one.
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I'm sure.
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Yeah, I'm sure.
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And then I want to ask sort of writing your first original song in Croatian.
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What was that like?
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Well, Tamara would have to answer that one, I believe.
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She's the main songwriter of the band.
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Hi there.
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Hi.
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So I wanted to ask, you do rhythm guitar and backing vocals in the band, right?
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Yes, that's correct.
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But you're also the primary songwriter, producer and manager.
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Yes, yes.
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I have been and will be.
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But how did you end up getting all of those titles, all those positions?
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It's funny for me, it's like I just roll them all into one ball and just say like I'm a
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musician.
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But at the end of the day, yeah, like I started just playing rhythm guitar on the acoustic,
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especially with me and Jasmine just started out as a duo.
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And then when dad came along and I definitely turned into a purely rhythm because dad's
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a great lead guitarist, and I definitely wanted him to stay doing that.
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And also I'm much more interested in like writing songs and producing, you know, music
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that kind of suits our own style rather than diving into like mastering the lead guitar.
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So I'm way happier to like sing backing vocals or just to be a part of the band really.
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I think as well I do in the band is probably more just the sort of foundational stuff.
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Like I like to make the songs.
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I like to get us out on social media, like do the meet that kind of managing side and
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you know, dealing with gigs and bookings and stuff like that.
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So I definitely enjoy the business side of it.
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Yeah, it sounds like it.
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So you're doing all the promotion and everything as well.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So I guess all those titles kind of just roll into one ball at the end of the day.
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It's not that I'm doing all these separate jobs and it feels like I'm doing multiple
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jobs.
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I just, it just all came sort of naturally because we did start as an independent band
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and I was really into promoting us at the time, so I just continued doing that on my
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own and later on, yeah, when we signed to Croatia Records, a lot of that has kind of
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been taken off my shoulders.
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So that's been a blessing, but it was also great to kind of hustle at the beginning
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and learn a lot myself with how to, how things go, how to run a band.
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Obviously I learned a lot from Dad because he was in the industry already and he knew
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how things go, like how do you set up, when do you rock up to a gig, all those sorts of
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like sort of minor details, but they do mean a lot.
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So yeah, he did mentor me in that kind of live events sort of perspective of the music
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scene.
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On the other hand, we do make our songs sort of create a lulley together, you know, I'll
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grab Dad's lyrics, he'll make lyrics and I'll sort of make the music to it, make a
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demo and then Jasmine will come along and interpret the lyrics in her way vocally and
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yeah, it is a team effort.
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The multiple titles on my behalf isn't, is it really how I would say it, but we're
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definitely all in it together equally.
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Well yeah, I guess that makes sense.
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You know, when you're an independent band, like you guys were at first, you know, everyone
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has to, you know, you have to fill all those roles, you know, all three of you guys.
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So you don't really think of it as, you know, doing different things, it's just part of
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the, part of the gig, you know, part of being a band and getting your songs out there.
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You touched a little bit on your writing process.
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I wanted to ask you, you know, if you could go into just a little bit more details about
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that.
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Like you said, sometimes you'll grab the lyrics from your dad and then what, you just
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strum a couple chords on guitar and you try and, you know, fit something in there or,
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or how does it work?
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Or do you maybe start, I know some people like to go with the piano and just get some
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chords, but then later, you know, add guitar.
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Actually lately I've definitely been playing around more with the creative process.
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I used to strictly be sort of grab the lyrics, play a few chords on guitar and hum a melody
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along with the lyrics.
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Like I used to always do it like that.
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Later realizing there's, there's so many more ways to, to, you know, attain a creative
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spark or some sort of inspiration.
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So like, I don't know, just, you know, grab something like a sample or a drum loop even
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or then I'll grab my bass guitar and I'll play a bass line.
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And if I like something there, then I'll try and fit that with another chord progression
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I may have made for another song.
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And I've just, you know, kind of like pinching ideas from myself.
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So it's been a bit more like exploring different ways to get those creative juices flowing,
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I guess.
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But it's, it's different every time.
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Is it something that like feels natural to you or do you really have to work on it and,
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you know, force yourself to try and come up with something?
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That's a really good question.
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Sometimes it comes natural.
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Sometimes.
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It's very common for songwriters to kind of get themselves in like what we call a writer's
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block.
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We'll just sit down for like days on the same, on the same project and not know where to go
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from there.
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Luckily, I've got two other musicians next to me.
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So when I do get stuck somewhere, if I kind of feel like, oh, I've made this, but I'm
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not really vibing with it, I'll show my dad or show my sister.
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And they will say, you know, totally honestly what they think and, you know, they'll maybe
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recommend a different sort of rhythm or different kind of melody.
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And so it's not really just me, but yeah, when I do get stuck, when it comes to inspiration,
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I do have Jasmine and dad, but also like I think listening to a lot of other music every
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day and all sorts of different genres definitely helps find something new.
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Yeah.
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Well, that's nice to have that support system as well.
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You know, two other musicians who you're also related to.
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So that's easy to talk to them, I'm sure, and you know, get some ideas, bounce ideas
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off of.
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When working now, you guys signed with Croatia Records how long ago now?
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So we signed two years ago.
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In 2020, we signed with them.
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What was that like?
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How did that happen?
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So when we got here to Croatia in 2020, it was right before sort of COVID hit.
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So we weren't expecting that.
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But after a few months of trying to promote ourselves as a band, as much as we could really,
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because there weren't any gigs at that time, just kind of getting our name out there.
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So then once, you know, COVID's sort of like passed that we can, you know, start gigging
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again, especially here, because, you know, we've come from Australia and we've got to
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now sort of like enter the scene in some way, media wise, I guess, promotional wise.
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So dad went to CMC TV and had a meeting and to try and get one of our independently released
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original songs on their channel.
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And they seemed to really like it.
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That was our song Zima.
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I independently released that and then Croatia Records, because dad had presented our work
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to CMC, that was passed on to Croatia Records and they seemed to really like what we do.
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And yeah, they offered us a deal and we happily took it.
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So yeah, that was a bit of, how do I say, definitely luck.
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We definitely feel blessed, but yeah, we kind of had our own work and projects before we
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came here.
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So it kind of came prepared if something like an opportunity like that did happen, because
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we did have material to show them.
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So it all just worked out really perfectly.
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Like definitely blessed within like six to eight months, we were already talking and,
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you know, discussing things and the project and how we would further with our cooperation.
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So yeah.
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Yeah, well, that's definitely a dream come true.
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That's, I mean, that's awesome.
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What's it like working with Croatia Records?
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Because I'm sure with the label, it's a little different.
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For example, and tell me if I'm wrong, but maybe in one of your original songs when you
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were independent, they took a listen to that and maybe they'll say, oh, like let's add
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some other instruments like violin or, you know, maybe some things you didn't have in
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the band before because I feel like a lot of, you know, when you go to a big record label
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and they produce, you know, a song, they add a lot more sort of dimensions to that song
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with different instruments.
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You know, was that the case for you guys?
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Definitely.
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Yeah.
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Um, which was so great.
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Um, yeah.
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So when I was producing by myself, I would record all the instruments, jazz and dad and me would
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play, perform, record, and then I would mix and I would actually send the song to get
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mastered and then I would independently release through my distribution service online.
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And then now with the label, it's totally different.
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So, um, first I'll show our managers and people who sort of run us as a band in Croatia Records,
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um, like a demo of ours or a song idea or something.
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And um, we'll see like which ones we like, which ones we think we'll go for like the
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next single and we were lucky enough to be able to work with a couple of producers in
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Croatia Records, like in-house producers and also external.
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And we have come to really like and love the work of our producer whose name is Zvonad
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Domazet.
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And yes, as you said, definitely he totally fills the production and the arrangement with
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so many more instruments, uh, diversifies the arrangement completely.
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And I think the overall results from the studio production on their side is great and we're
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totally happy and satisfied with how it sounds.
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Um, we hope that everybody likes it too.
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It is different to like what I would do.
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For instance, I produced the song Nehmate and there is definitely a difference between
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my production and the production of these amazing professionals, but we're totally
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blessed that we get to work with these incredible talents.
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And they're really easy going and great to work with anyway.
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So whatever creative ideas or decisions we have, we can kind of bring it to the table
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and you know, they're totally accepting and open-minded too.
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It's all in everybody's interest to make the song good.
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So it's a, we're all trying to achieve the same goal.
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Well, I'm glad to hear that you guys like working with them and you know, they're doing
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a great job so far.
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Everything sounds amazing.
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I've listened to a couple of your guys' songs.
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I really like it.
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Thank you.
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I want to ask your data question now.
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So Miat, I wanted to ask you a little bit about yourself.
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You know, you were born in Croatia.
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Which part were you born and raised in and sort of what was life like growing up for
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you if you wouldn't mind just a little bit about your history?
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Well, I was actually born in Bosnia.
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Yeah.
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I was born in Bosnia.
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And then I was 25 when I went to Australia.
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I met my wife.
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They were on a trip around the world and I was playing somewhere we met.
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And then I went to Australia to see what's Australia like because I always liked English-speaking
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countries that was for me like close to rock and roll.
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Yeah.
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I was into music and went to see what's life like there.
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I did like it and stayed in Australia for 29 years.
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Wow.
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Yeah, you must have liked it then.
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Yeah, I did like it.
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So yeah, that's pretty much in short a little bit about me before we decide to come back
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to Croatia and try our life here which we really at the moment enjoy.
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And I think that was really good decision that we make at least from my behalf.
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I don't regret one moment of it.
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Well, how different was, I mean, did you have to get used to a different lifestyle going
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from Bosnia to Australia?
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Was it a big change for you or did you sort of assimilate pretty easily?
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Actually it was pretty easy.
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Like it was different because the only part what was different is music.
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I used to play even in Bosnia played all the time professionally and then went to Australia
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that was kind of once a week, you know, like it was like not enough in regards to music.
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But I always played always had some bands, you know, being in playing career community
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and some other bands just for fun.
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So actually everything was pretty good.
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Life was good, but yeah, music was kind of not enough for what I wanted to do, you know.
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What sort of music were you playing when you were in your first bands?
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Pretty much Christian Pop Rock and whatever was mainstream at the time.
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What are some of those?
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Well, would be let's say Giboni, Oliva, Opcao Pascnost, Pelle Ocasali, you know, Divli Agde.
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Yeah, a lot of these bands that, 80s bands that we used to listen, you know.
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So yeah, whatever would somebody suggest, oh guys, can you play this as well?
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We would try, you know, things like that.
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So yeah, any recommendations that throughout there you would try?
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I saw Opcao Pascnost last year in Metkovich and they were really good.
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They are awesome there.
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We actually had a privilege to be the support band for them when they were in Australia.
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Oh wow, really?
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Yeah, that was really enjoyable.
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And playing on the PIC system that they play on like big stage, big crowd.
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So that was really special for us and we actually met the guys there, awesome.
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So we actually, when we came here, we met them again, you know, so that was a really
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good experience.
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Yeah, that's awesome.
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Yeah, we actually, it was at last year that we went to the Slavonia Fest, yeah, and then
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they were part of that.
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And yeah, we had changed to catch up again, you know, remember Melbourne, Australia and
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talk about this little bit.
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So yeah, they are great guys.
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Now we are in contact.
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Pretty cool.
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So now that you guys are here in Croatia and in the music scene, you guys have a couple
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of hit songs.
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I mean, are you meeting a lot of connections and a lot of other Croatian artists and
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bands?
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We actually do.
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We had regular meeting in Croatia records and press release like always something happening
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and whenever we are there, a lot of musicians, a lot of stars are with us, which is quite
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unusual for us.
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But yeah, definitely we enjoyed this meeting, all those Croatian stars.
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So that's good part of our job, definitely.
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And you as a musician, obviously you inspired your daughters to want to become musicians
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and they wanted you in the band when they were just a duo.
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Was that something that you were hoping that they would become musicians or did they just
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sort of naturally take to music?
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Actually it wasn't like that I was sending them to music school as a purpose to be good
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musicians and play music because I thought actually that usually it doesn't work like
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that.
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You know, if you want kids to play, it doesn't happen that way.
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But they actually themselves showed interest.
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Are they going to play music?
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Dad, do you want to teach us?
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You know, whatever.
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Yeah, but you also need to have proper lessons in your life in a proper music school, which
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actually was the best way.
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They showed the interest that they want to play instruments and then when they started
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attending school, I never need to tell them like, sit down and practice, you've got tomorrow
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class again.
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Why was they picked up instruments they really like enjoyed themselves and that was a good
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sign that they will probably do music in their lives.
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However, I never thought that I would play with them because that I didn't think that
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that going to work, you know, or didn't even cross my mind.
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But when that happened and they asked me, I was really glad that they asked me anyway
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after all, because now I'm really enjoying myself on stage.
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Yeah, I'm sure that's a cool experience for you to be able to play with your daughters.
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I feel like a lot of times kids are embarrassed to do things with their parents like that.
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And you know, you as a father, I'm sure that that's a great feeling for you.
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It's actually an awesome feeling.
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I actually, it's hard to describe it.
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And it's you like in your life, you can't even hear that's a ray that something like
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that happened that you can hear from other musicians that sound that would that feels
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awesome or whatever that's good.
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It just it's just a rare occasion that something like that happens.
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So yeah, from what I can say, you know, I can say just my luck that happened like that.
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And yeah, definitely every gig that we play, first of all, we enjoy music, you know, and
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love the same type of music, which which is really been lucky again that way.
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But like, and, you know, like after every gig, we just feel like satisfied, like one more
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accomplishment, you know, one more good party or whatever something like that.
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Yeah, that's a that's definitely a blessing to be able to, you know, experience that.
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I have one more question for you.
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And as a, you know, fellow rock and roller, I want to ask you if you ever have like the
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feeling that you just want to put something heavy, write a song with, you know, something
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heavier, you know, take you back to the old days and crank up some distortion and put
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some riff in and, you know, maybe it doesn't really fit or no.
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Well, I very often feel like that.
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So we are on sign page day.
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However, when when we making song and actually Tamar, Tamar is the one that makes songs.
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She usually does this her way, how she feels it, and we kind of keeping it mainstream.
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But when we practice the song and we want to try something different or on a stage, sometimes
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we does make it heavier just for ourselves.
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You put in some Eddie Van Halen type solo or what?
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Well, it might happen capability.
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Yeah, no one can play like Eddie.
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That's for sure.
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Jasmine, I want to ask you, how do you feel about being the front woman of the band?
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You know, you're the singer.
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Do you enjoy the spotlight while you're singing while you're up there?
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Oh honey, I was born for it.
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That's great.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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I really do.
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Look, we all have our roles and we actually all love our roles, which is quite rare,
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you know, in a lot of bands you can find sometimes hear that a lot of people are fighting
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for the front man position or for the lead guitarist position, but as you heard from
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Tamara and Dad, they all actually love their positions.
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Tamara didn't even want to be on stage when she was younger.
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She just loved songwriting and it actually took me a really long time to convince her
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to actually come out on stage with me and play guitar and be my backing vocalist at
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least, you know, get some experience under a belt.
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So no one was really forced to be in their spot where they are now?
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No.
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No one at all.
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I want to ask you a little about the singing in English versus in Croatian.
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I mean, is that tough for you?
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I mean, did you learn Croatian growing up as a kid?
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It is actually incredibly tough, but not for the reasons that some people would think.
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So for example, the word misli, the way it's written, it's actually exactly the same word,
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but it's two meanings.
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One is thoughts, one is think.
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And then if it depends on how long you sing it for.
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So when someone's making a song in a different language, Tamara might miss something of that
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and then Dad will pick up on it and then we and Dad have to work on it to fit it again
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into the song as it not to have an accent as much as, well, I have one anyway, but as
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at least as possible to have one.
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And it's actually quite difficult because sometimes you can't quite pronounce the words
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that you have, letters that you have been trying to say, like, I can never say it as
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tough as someone from Croatia can.
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It's just one of those things, but I've been trying really hard and sometimes some people
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can pick up on it.
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Sometimes they can't, but it's not as easy.
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It's definitely easier to speak in singing in your first language for sure.
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I'm sure, yeah.
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So but for you, then it's mostly pronunciation as opposed to, well, I guess.
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Pronunciation and pulling the wrong letter in a spot I'm not supposed to, for example.
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Yeah.
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But, you know, I have help.
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So it's great because your dad does most of the lyric writing, correct?
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Because I tried, I'm not proud of this.
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I tried to write some Croatian lyrics one time and it was terrible.
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And then I realized I'm using like the wrong grammatical cases and then it doesn't rhyme
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and it's too much for me to try.
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Good on you.
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I wouldn't even have tried.
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Well, that's all I did was try.
468
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I wouldn't say it's that good on me, but yeah, I'm sure that's definitely tough in
469
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,400
your second language.
470
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,400
But do you enjoy it?
471
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,560
I mean, singing in Croatian?
472
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,560
Oh yeah, absolutely.
473
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,560
Absolutely.
474
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,480
It's actually a really pretty language.
475
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,560
I like hearing it in, it sounds so clean, doesn't it?
476
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,080
When you hear it in a song, it's really a pretty language.
477
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,080
Yeah.
478
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,360
Well, it sounds, in your songs, it sounds really, really clean.
479
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,360
It sounds really good.
480
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,480
I couldn't tell that you were struggling maybe with pronunciations.
481
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,480
Oh, you liar.
482
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:29,120
Well, my Croatian is not very good, so maybe that's not so big of a compliment.
483
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,440
Thank you.
484
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,640
What sort of gigs have you guys played over here?
485
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,160
I mean, obviously you came during Corona, so I'm sure there weren't that many available,
486
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,720
but since then, what's the scene been looking like?
487
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,720
Yeah.
488
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,800
So yeah, we got locked down in March and we were in the house for three months without
489
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,800
getting out.
490
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,160
So when we finally did come out, it was actually the problem of, as you guys, I think it was
491
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:59,640
like this all over the world, but cafes weren't open and restaurants weren't open and all
492
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,640
that sort of thing.
493
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,920
So obviously there was no clubs, there was no one going out and where do you play in
494
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,800
order to have music playing live somewhere you also need that industry running.
495
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,920
And it wasn't like that and not only to mention you can't really have home parties either
496
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,400
due to the numbers of people.
497
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,040
So it took a really long time to get out of that.
498
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,240
But now we've actually been booking up for over the summer.
499
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:28,040
I mean, a lot of our work now is actually got a lot of home work to do, making singles,
500
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,280
albums, working on all that sort of stuff.
501
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,400
It's a whole lot of work on its own, but we've actually have been picking up some gigs now
502
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,480
that places are open and stuff like that.
503
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,080
Also to mention we did come from a country where we were gigging a lot and then no one
504
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,440
really knew us here.
505
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,000
So yeah, we've been trying to break the ice and it's actually going pretty well.
506
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,840
Well, what's the reception like?
507
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,120
What's the reception been like since you moved to Croatia?
508
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,120
Reception?
509
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,200
Yeah, at people been, I mean, I don't know, how do you guys like living in Croatia, I
510
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200
guess I'm asking.
511
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,240
Oh, yeah.
512
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,240
It's different.
513
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,800
It's definitely different, but I do love it.
514
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,960
Every single place has its own little magic.
515
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,200
I liked living in Melbourne as well, but this Croatia's a little different.
516
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,200
It's fun.
517
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,920
Do you hear an esogna?
518
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,720
Yeah, close to about 20 minutes out.
519
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,720
Okay.
520
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,280
What are some of the differences you see?
521
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:30,320
I mean, I'm sure were you able to travel on vacation growing up as a kid?
522
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,320
Yeah.
523
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,240
Well, I did come here as a child and that actually is one of the biggest differences.
524
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,640
The kids place and all know each other here and you're allowed to walk out in the street
525
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,640
at night.
526
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,640
Yeah.
527
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:49,560
It's not weird, but yeah, as an adult as well, there's definitely some beauties in it.
528
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,840
Coffee's and the way people behave.
529
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,440
Everyone's family.
530
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,440
It's unusual.
531
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,440
It's different.
532
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,440
Yeah, definitely.
533
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,440
Yeah.
534
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,440
Getting a coffee.
535
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,440
Yeah.
536
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,240
Whereas in Australia, I didn't really know my next door neighbor.
537
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,240
I don't think.
538
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:12,160
I mean, to be fair, it could be my own fault for moving like seven houses, but you see
539
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,880
everyone and everybody remembers you and remembers your name and makes an effort to know who
540
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,000
you are and make you feel included in the community.
541
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,160
And it's actually been quite nice.
542
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,560
Everybody's been very welcoming.
543
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,560
Yeah.
544
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:28,160
It's definitely a little different and not in a bad way, definitely.
545
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,280
What sort of places over here have you been able to travel to?
546
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,600
I know for your Nemete music video.
547
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,000
You guys shot that in Opatia, right?
548
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,000
That's right.
549
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,000
How was that?
550
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,000
What was that experience?
551
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,000
It was hot.
552
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,600
I got, I had sunstroke the next day, but the view was incredible.
553
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,600
I'm sure.
554
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,600
I've never been there.
555
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,600
It looks really pretty though.
556
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,600
Yeah.
557
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,600
I mean, I didn't even get to see the views that I saw later on my own film clip, but
558
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,400
when they got that drone in there, it was incredible to see where I actually was.
559
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,400
Yeah.
560
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,200
Of course, we were working and it was hot and I was concentrating and singing.
561
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,520
But it was, yeah, it was a beautiful place and the oceans here are gorgeous.
562
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:13,440
And one of my favorite things about the creations here, you know, in Australia, we'd, even
563
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,400
if the nicest beach was a four hour drive, it would only be for a day.
564
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,520
But here they're like four hour drive.
565
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,240
We have to stay there for two weeks.
566
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,240
Absolutely.
567
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,560
You're completely right.
568
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,560
I'm picking that one up.
569
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,800
That's a big journey over here.
570
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,200
That's a tradition I want to keep going.
571
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,200
Let's do it.
572
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:38,000
Was that your first music video that you guys shot or just first music video in Croatia?
573
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,880
First music video in Croatia.
574
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,880
Yes.
575
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:48,280
Zima was done at a place called Ragoosa Republika in Melbourne.
576
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,800
And then we did Nemata here and Sriracha Kvala Bham here.
577
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,800
But yeah.
578
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,200
And those are both from Croatia records?
579
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,200
Yeah.
580
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,720
So they were in charge of, they got everyone to film the music video and the production
581
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,880
and everything like that.
582
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,880
Yeah.
583
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,840
Well, we have our videographer, Tim Meinaric.
584
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,520
And he actually came up with some gorgeous ideas.
585
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,040
I think Apatio was even, here's our location idea.
586
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,880
And I was like, go to the beach for a day.
587
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,880
Absolutely.
588
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,880
Why would I not do that?
589
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,640
And yeah, he's actually very talented at what he does.
590
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,440
And I'm happy that he's worked on that one.
591
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,440
And he also worked with Sriracha Kvala Bham with us as well.
592
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,320
And he'll be working on our next single with us.
593
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,040
It's already in the works.
594
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,680
Is that something that I can't leak here or can we release that?
595
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,760
Well, it's actually been accepted into CMC Festival.
596
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,200
The song is not released yet, but it is called Aventura.
597
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,720
So you can definitely keep a lookout for that song.
598
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:52,480
And if you want to hear it for the first time, it'll actually be premiered on the Dali
599
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Bodipetko show this Sunday.
600
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Oh, wow.
601
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,080
Pretty cool.
602
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,680
I don't think you can out for that.
603
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,680
At 3 PM Croatian time, I don't even know.
604
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:06,080
I hate doing the math trying to calculate what that is back home.
605
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,560
Well, that sort of leads me into sort of the end here.
606
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,400
And I want to ask, you know, what sort of projects do you guys have coming up with sort
607
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,400
of plans?
608
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,160
Anything for the summer, any upcoming concerts?
609
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,000
You're excited about playing or just going to?
610
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,000
Yeah.
611
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,200
We've been released a single soon and we're going onto the CMC Festival for the first
612
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,080
time ever and we're honored that we get to be a part of that.
613
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,440
We were chosen of one of the 40.
614
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,680
And that's going to be scary and fun and everything, I'm sure.
615
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:44,280
And then we, of course, are still working on that album we keep talking about.
616
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,360
And hopefully that'll be done soon.
617
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:56,440
And I only just keep hoping that everybody will enjoy it and as much as we do.
618
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,800
Well, it sounds like a busy summer.
619
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:04,520
Aside from music and work, do you guys have maybe any vacation plans or, you know, you
620
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,440
know, you stop by Opatija again or somewhere in Dalmatia?
621
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,040
Oh, we are totally, totally extending that trip in Vod.
622
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Let me tell you now.
623
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,040
Yeah, man.
624
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,440
I'm excited for summer.
625
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,120
Well, you're here in Zagreb too.
626
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,520
It's finally, it's nice today.
627
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,720
It's why like, yeah, gorgeous weather.
628
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:21,720
Yep.
629
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,720
And we chose to do a podcast.
630
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:24,720
Yeah.
631
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,120
I'm sorry for scheduling it today.
632
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,120
No, it's all due.
633
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,120
Oh, good.
634
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,120
All right.
635
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,280
Well, you guys have been a lot of fun.
636
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,760
You know, definitely everyone, if they haven't listened to your music before, we'll check
637
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,760
out.
638
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,760
We'll have to check out the songs.
639
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,760
I already listened to a couple.
640
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,000
I plan on definitely listening to the album when you guys get that done.
641
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Thank you.
642
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,600
You know, maybe I'll have to come jam sometime.
643
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,600
Oh, absolutely.
644
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,360
There's a little flex there.
645
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,360
Absolutely.
646
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,360
Keep practicing.
647
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,360
Yeah.
648
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,720
I got some terrible acoustic I bought off of Niuszkolo.
649
00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:00,840
It doesn't even have a press.
650
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,000
And definitely bring that song you tried to make one.
651
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,000
Oh, yeah.
652
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000
I think I burned that.
653
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,000
All right.
654
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,160
Well, thank you for having us.
655
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,640
That's it for today's episode of the All Things Croatia podcast.
656
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,640
Thanks for tuning in.
657
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,040
And I hope you all enjoyed it.
658
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,080
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659
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,640
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660
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,120
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662
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