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Welcome back to the All Things Croatia podcast,

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everybody. We've got Tatsu here and you may know

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him better as Crow Samurai. You've probably been

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seeing his videos on Instagram. Are you on YouTube

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too? No, not yet. TikTok or just Insta? Just

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Instagram. Just Instagram. Well, if you're on

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Instagram, you've been seeing his videos, I'm

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sure. If you follow anything related to Croatia

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and he's singing, it's like day one of, what

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is it, 500? of singing Croatian songs. First

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of all, welcome to the podcast, I guess. Thank

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you very much. Thank you, Stanko. Yeah, of course,

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man. And it's been a while, actually, since I

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did an episode. So this will be a fun one. And

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I want to, of course, ask how you sort of got

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into anything really Croatian. But what day,

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before we get into that, what day are you on

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right now of the challenge? I'm on day 20. day

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20 will be my next video i just posted my day

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19 one uh -huh wow yeah i'll be um i can't i

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can't really just hear what i'll be doing for

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day 20 but uh it'll be uh it'll be another big

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classic song all right what song did you do for

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19 and i'll let you 19 19 i did nice my dad went

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and uh dad and sister drove to phoenix i'm in

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los angeles i'm here in la they drove to phoenix

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because jelko was playing just in this little

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like cafe thing in phoenix and did a concert

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and so they drove out like six hours to go see

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him and they said it was pretty cool oh really

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good show yeah yeah he's got some good songs

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for sure Obviously, you love Croatian music.

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You're a big fan of Croatia. If you're watching

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this video, you see he's got the jersey, he's

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got the beanie, he's got everything. First of

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all, are you Croatian? I get asked that question

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a lot. I've got zero Croatian blood, full Japanese.

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How it started was I used to do tennis with my

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best friend called Tommy Petica. He introduced

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me to a few Croatian friends. And I think it

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was the World Cup 2018. That was the first time

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when I saw all the Croatia jerseys and the flags

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in the middle of Zagreb. And that's when I was

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like, you know, who are these people and what's

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this country? Because I've never seen a country

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that was so happy to represent themselves in

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their jerseys. And they all obviously looked

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very proud to be Croatian. And that was a sight

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to never see before. And then after the World

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Cup, I was just meeting all the different Croatian

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people and going to the Croatian parties and

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then getting introduced to the Croatian culture

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and then just fell in love with it straight away.

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Yeah, that's awesome. So you're playing tennis

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with your Croatian buddies. Yes. And so you've

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been friends with them for a long time and always

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knew they were Croatian. And then when you watched

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the World Cup, you kind of put it together and

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got more into it or you met them and said, oh.

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I met them first and then started getting into

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the Croatian culture and the country bit by bit.

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And so are they born in Croatia and moved to

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Australia? Or are they like first gen? Yeah,

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they're all born here. Born there in Australia.

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And so I'm assuming they're pretty, you know,

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big fans of Croatia, always talking about it.

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Definitely. Definitely, yeah. In Australia, you

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don't see too many countries and cultures that

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are sort of proud to represent. themselves especially

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in sydney so uh it's literally a small minority

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and then seeing like such a small community like

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croatians and then being so proud to be you know

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croatians um there was just nothing better to

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say than that and yeah that eventually just leached

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onto me i guess uh -huh yeah it is we love to

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talk about how it's a small country especially

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when we do well you know in the world cup and

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stuff four million it's definitely yeah absolutely

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right now yeah and we're definitely proud of

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you know being such a small country but still

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being able to produce you know athletes and you

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know thinkers and great people uh interesting

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tennis we we got some good tennis players too

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i mean chile just did good absolutely yeah chile

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chip i saw that you guys did chile recently so

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yeah yeah i had him on the podcast uh it was

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maybe like six months ago he's a really nice

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guy really good guy seems really down to earth

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um i want i just went i came back from croatia

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a few days ago and i wanted to you know go and

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play tennis with him over there but i didn't

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actually reach out because i didn't want to i

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don't know who knows if he's even if he was over

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there he's training or playing in another tournament

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somewhere right now but yeah he promised me at

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some point we'd play maybe back in my my grandparents

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village oh really oh that's great yeah yeah wow

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so were you learning were you asking your friends

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to like teach you croatian or like teach you

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about the culture and stuff or were you sort

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of yeah like i still i still remember in the

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beginning um trying to learn the uh trying to

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learn the language and just bit by bit and i

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remember um i remember trying to learn the learn

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the word phala and in the beginning i asked my

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friend how was uh spelt and he goes hb A -L -A.

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So I pronounced it as Hvala. And then he kept

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telling me, no, it's not Hvala, it's Fala. I

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couldn't get that F pronunciation. In the beginning,

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I was so confused. And then, yeah, bit by bit,

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it was just the pronunciations, you know, confusing

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the hell out of me. But yeah, after I got over

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that hump, then it was just learning about the

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culture and like the Kola dancing and the Rakia,

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obviously. And yeah, bit by bit. Well, so are

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you like... hanging out in the croatian community

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over there's a big you're in sydney right that's

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a big croatian community over there yeah yeah

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very big gift so i've been with these guys probably

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for about um probably seven eight years now are

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you going to like any do they have like a you

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know croatian picnic or something over there

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that you ever go to or like the i know i'm sure

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they've got croatian churches Yeah, they do the

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Croatian family gatherings. I've been to those

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and I've been to Croatian weddings and I've been

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to the Croatian soccer tourney in Australia as

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well. So I've been all around the Croatian people

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and the Croatian culture over the last couple

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of years. And to say the least, I think I'm blessed

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to be around these kind of people. Yeah, yeah.

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Well, that's awesome. I mean, I want to ask about

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learning Croatian because I'm also... I started

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learning maybe like four -ish years ago. I actually

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moved out to Zagreb so I could learn it. I did

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a program out there. But it's tough as a native

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English speaker, as someone who only speaks English,

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it's a really tough language to learn. And I

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read somewhere that you're also, or I saw in

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the interview you did, that you're also fluent

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in Japanese, right? Yep. And so I wonder, like

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comparing and contrast, well, I was going to

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ask you to compare and contrast, but were you

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like, was Japanese your first language or like,

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did you learn that as a young kid? kid or did

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you have to actually like study that to learn

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that oh yeah japanese was my first language um

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and then eventually it was it was english not

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long not too long after that and japanese even

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for me as a native i still had to yeah study

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outside of school go to saturday school and practice

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japanese every single week just to learn the

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language um but yeah with croatian i'm eventually

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i like to become fluent but you know just the

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grammar difficulties i'm yeah finding a lot of

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struggle so yeah just finding that yeah finding

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the right mentor to actually be able to speak

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the language and you know understand what i'm

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actually saying not just learning the language

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and using it in my head i'd actually like to

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use the language and speak to other people in

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croatian so yeah yeah that's the best part you

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know once of learning a language is being able

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to communicate with other people like that but

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yeah it's hard for me i'm sure japanese they

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say is hard for english speakers to learn as

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well but like for me here we learn spanish you

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know in school and like compared to spanish croatian

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is super hard spanish is really easy but i want

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i mean for you i wonder is it like tricky i mean

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all the slavic languages it's they're tough because

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you don't think like in the same way in english

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you know and then you have to change the end

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of a word in croatian even though in english

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you would say in the beginning you know what

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i mean yeah maybe i guess in that sense you can

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say the croatian it is a bit hard but for me

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personally i find like the pronunciations and

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the accents it's a lot easier for me to learn

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and understand compared to spanish for some reason

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that's fair yeah definitely the the grammar point

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it is it is very difficult to get my head around

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as i think spanish and english it's very similar

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you can just put the words as it is and form

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a sentence but yeah croatia like you mentioned

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you have to sort of change the words around etc

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and japanese it's very similar in that sense

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as well which is why i found some similarities

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and yeah even a pronunciation it's uh yeah fairly

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similar fairly similar to japanese And how did

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you start learning Croatian? Are you just asking

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from your friends and they're teaching you? Or

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were you doing something online? I started from

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the friends and then started listening to the

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music and then just translating word by word.

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And then, yeah, just learning word by word from

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all these friends, just everyone coming up to

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me and teaching me new Croatian words. Are people

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excited, you know, when they see you or they

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see how excited you are? These Croatian people,

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they're so passionate. Like they say, you know,

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they see like a Mala Kinezi, like speaking, you

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know, Croatian and they just all get so passionate.

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They're coming up to me and teaching me Croatian

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music and, you know, teaching me new Croatian

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words or teaching me about Croatian history.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's so awesome to see someone who's,

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you know, not a part of your culture being a

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part of your culture, you know, someone that

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you're not used to seeing. That's awesome. Now,

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you mentioned the music and, you know, obviously

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you've got the Instagram. It's called Crow Samurai,

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right? At Crow Samurai. Crow Samurai, yeah. Give

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a shout out there. And so tell us about how you

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came up with that, what it is and sort of how

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you even thought to do that. So a couple of years

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ago, I actually had another Instagram account

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called Mr. Hrvatska. And that was a very similar

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account where I was just singing for fun and,

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you know, posting for fun as well. But that account,

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I never really took it seriously. And then maybe

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sometime this year, I just got to a point where

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I said, look, I want to try and maybe do it again,

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Mr. Hrvatska, as I had a couple of people asking

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me on that account saying to bring the account

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back and maybe start singing Croatian songs again.

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So I thought maybe this year I'll just, you know,

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give it my all, see how it goes. and then yeah

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from the first video surprisingly it hit uh you

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know 700 000 views which was uh very unexpected

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so yeah i just ended up continuing yeah it was

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really crazy on the first video too yeah you

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have to continue after that you know i mean i

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have to continue yeah i mean if the first video

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like i was i was honestly expecting like you

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know 5 000 views and if it got 5 000 i was just

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happy to take it easy and you know maybe day

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two whenever i feel like it but yeah started

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getting to like you know 250 000 and you know

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got to like 300 000 i was like oh this is getting

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a bit too crazy and then i had all these yeah

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people started reaching out to me and um it just

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got too crazy and then i think the second video

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got like over 500 000 views as well so it's just

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been unreal that's awesome yeah and you're about

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to be on day 20 video 20 of that so looking forward

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to see what that's going to be i'm sure you've

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been getting a lot of requests people requesting

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their favorite song for you to sing Definitely,

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yeah. It was just my way to show my passion for

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Croatian music, like something in a way to give

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back to the Croatian community and maybe show

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the world of what the Croatian music is like

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because I feel like if a non -Croatian person

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can find all this joy and passion in Croatian

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music, I feel like the rest of the world can

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somehow get influenced as well. hopefully i can

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spread the croatian music and the positivity

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of the croatian music to the rest of the world

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and hopefully get other people leeched on as

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well onto croatian music because honestly i think

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there's nothing better than listening to croatian

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music oh man yeah that's an awesome goal i i

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respect that and that's i mean i'd love to help

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as much as i can in that i love croatian music

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as well what what are some of your favorite songs

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to listen to uh um there's there's too many and

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then you know you've got like the guru share

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nowadays and um all the fast ones so yeah you're

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listening to it just doesn't stop oh yeah i listen

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to everything they only know that one uh what's

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the conobar conobar conobar conobar man that's

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that's hilarious i did not expect you to say

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you're saying you know talking about oliver and

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you know all these dalmatian i listen to everything

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yeah like all um all artists like severina colonia

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you know everything marty bulich oliver thompson

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yeah of course and then yeah that's awesome man

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i was just in um or no no i was just saying this

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was maybe like two years ago, and I was in Zagreb.

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And they had like their Zagreb beer festival

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in the summer that they have every year, which

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is really cool. And that's one thing I like about

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Zagreb is they're always like having an event

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outside that people go to, you know, and they

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just hang out, drink or whatever. And they had,

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I think it was an ACDC tribute band that was

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going to play and a couple of like Croatian bands.

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And so I went for that. But before them, Grše

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was playing. And they wouldn't even let us into

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the park because it was filled with all these

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mostly like high school uh students because they

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love going to stay over there and so they wouldn't

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they were like at capacity and they wouldn't

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even let us in until they finished and then you

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know going to say finished and all these all

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these guys just walk out and they don't even

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want to stay for the other one so they've got

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some you know a lot of fans out there yeah i

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think that yeah music scenes are definitely changing

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over there yeah yeah becoming like a little more

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you know dance and edm focused which is good

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that's true yeah i mean myself i'm like a big

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rock and roll guy and i think that's one of the

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reasons as well why i like a lot of croatian

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music because it is like a lot of like 80s you

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know sounding 70s yeah yeah which i like and

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i love that everyone is singing i mean you go

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anywhere in croatia i'm sure you're seeing it

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in the croatian community over there you know

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you put on the song and everyone's singing you

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know at a concert everyone knows that's the best

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yeah you go to like a party and then you know

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certain songs come on and everyone just gets

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off their seats and they start singing it's crazy

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like you don't see you know anything else like

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it especially you know for me coming from a japanese

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country and culture we don't really get together

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and all like you know sing together in a song

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but croatians like no matter what the song is

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like no matter what's in the hand like even if

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you've got a lucky or cigarette in the hand they'll

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they'll go out there to the middle of the grass

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and they'll start singing that's true man yeah

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that's awesome well so you haven't been yet to

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croatia right i know never yeah maybe sometime

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this year or next year i'd hopefully like to

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go there i travel for about two weeks just see

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the country and then yeah hopefully do like a

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croatia tour maybe how long is the flight for

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you eventually uh for me it's about i think just

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under 25 hours i believe geez it's pretty far

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that's crazy that's crazy that there's so many

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australian you know croatian immigrants there

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in australia and they you know fly out geez 25

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hours it's nuts i think there's about i think

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400 000 in australia i believe That's crazy.

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That's a lot. How many, what's the population

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of Australia? It's 23 million, I think. 23. Oh

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yeah. It's a pretty big sizable population then

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of Croatian people for sure. Yeah. They're crazy

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out there. That's from just from what I've seen

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on, you know, videos and stuff there, even here

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in the U S you know, we're not as, uh, I don't

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know. There's not as many of us, I feel like

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in the same. area as there is in australia at

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least in la i know there's some you know chicago

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pittsburgh cleveland they got big you know centered

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populations of croatians there but in la it's

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kind of everyone's just kind of spread out a

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little bit more you know uh -huh but we've got

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our croatian clubs in la as well yeah we've got

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uh we've got like two sort of separate areas

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one area called san pedro and that's kind of

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all the dalmatiansi move there because it's right

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by the coast it's funny how they kind of stayed

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the same way in croatia as you know over here

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and then more inland and like the downtown we

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have our other croatian church and that's where

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most of the herzogovci live and go to so yeah

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it's kind of funny how they still kind of stayed

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geographically but yeah we've got a we've got

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a pretty decent population down here but just

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la is so big you know that everyone is so spread

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out just as far as like where they live and stuff

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yeah but sydney i imagine is it kind of the same

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for you guys or do you feel like a lot of people

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are sort of like concentrated in a small area

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or what um yeah over here i think a lot of a

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lot of people are more concentrated on the smaller

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areas and a bit more inland compared to living

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by the water as yeah living by the water it's

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fairly expensive in sydney so it's very very

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ridiculous Yeah, I can imagine. You mentioned

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tennis. Are you following any other Croatian

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sports? I'm sure soccer. You mentioned 2018,

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the World Cup. Yeah, soccer and a bit of the

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basketball as well. Yeah, well, here in LA, we've

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got Ivica Zubac on the Clippers. Man, he had

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a great season, best season he's had so far.

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He had a really good season. I think Bojanovic

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just retired also. I saw that, yeah. Man, he

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was such a good player for so long for us. He

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was a great three -point shooter. Yeah. I really

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hope some of the young guys are going to have

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to step it up. And there's some good young guys.

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There's Carlo Matkovic. I don't know if you've

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heard of him. He's on New Orleans. I believe

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it was his rookie year this past year. And he

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started balling out as they started giving him

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more minutes midway through the season. So I

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think we've got a bright future because, I mean,

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back in the 90s, they were such a great team,

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you know, Croatia and so many good Croatian basketball

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players. And then lately, like last, I don't

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even know how many years, but in recent years,

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their national team, it's kind of, you know,

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they haven't had as much success, even though

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they're still producing some really good players,

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you know. So I'm hoping the national team can

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start to pick it up soon and some of the young

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guys, you know, start to produce. we'll manage

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to find a way i'm sure yeah i'm sure you guys

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always find a way so what uh i'm sure i mean

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you mentioned you've been to a bunch of family

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you know parties and croatian you know gatherings

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and stuff what kind of food are you enjoying

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over there croatian food croatian food i'd have

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to say really interesting oh yeah i love it Of

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course, yeah, yeah. I was expecting you to say

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Javapi for sure. Yeah, Sarma, that's a good winter

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dish. I feel like they don't have it too much

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when it's hot out. They won't have that when

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it's hot, but then they'll still have soup for

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dinner when it's hot. That's the thing that I

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don't, as an American, I'm born and raised in

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the U .S., that's still something I can't really.

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get used to just when my baba has you know a

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hot soup and it's july you know which is summer

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for us over here 100 degrees out and 35 celsius

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or whatever and then it's soup a hot soup for

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dinner i'm like what oh man it was interesting

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because um you know as a as a japanese when i

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heard there was a there's a croatian meal with

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rice in it i was like you know i have to try

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it so i tried start of mine and uh i can't explain

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the flavor it was just this explosiveness of

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like flavor in my mouth it's just something i've

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never experienced before and uh you know the

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fact that rice was in there oh i just fell in

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love with it straight away that's it yeah i didn't

00:20:01.220 --> 00:20:03.279
put that together about rice that yeah i'm sure

00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:04.980
it's a different flavor than you know japanese

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rice dishes for sure yeah what about like other

00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:11.359
what about like seafood dishes i don't know if

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you've had any like um black risotto or anything

00:20:14.619 --> 00:20:19.079
seafood dishes no not yet That'd be interesting

00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:21.019
to compare because I know, you know, Japan has

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a lot of good seafood. Have you been over there

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to Japan? Japan? Yes, I've been there about 10

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times. So yeah, looking looking to do something

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different. For one sense why I want to go to

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Croatia. Yeah, every every year, every two years,

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I'll go to Japan for a holiday. And you know,

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during the summer holidays, I've got all my Croatian

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people going to Croatia. But during the winter

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period, that's when I would go to Japan. So okay,

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that makes sense. Yeah, man. Next year. You've

00:20:47.990 --> 00:20:49.789
got to make it out there next year. I'm sure

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you're going to get recognized on the street.

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I'm going to make my goal. Yeah, that'd be awesome.

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I'd love to go to the World Cup, hopefully. Yeah,

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that'll be cool. They're going to have some here

00:21:01.369 --> 00:21:04.250
in LA, so I'll be able, hopefully Croatia. You

00:21:04.250 --> 00:21:08.329
must be looking forward to it. Yeah, we've got

00:21:08.329 --> 00:21:10.509
the Olympics and the World Cup coming here to

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LA. I'm hoping for a lot of Croatian, you know,

00:21:13.670 --> 00:21:15.509
events and stuff, but for the world cup, they

00:21:15.509 --> 00:21:17.009
don't know yet, you know, in what city they're

00:21:17.009 --> 00:21:20.049
going to be playing, but hopefully, you know,

00:21:20.069 --> 00:21:22.049
they will come to LA so I can see them. But yeah,

00:21:22.109 --> 00:21:24.029
I mean, the Croatian soccer team, they're looking

00:21:24.029 --> 00:21:25.910
really good. There was a period there that it

00:21:25.910 --> 00:21:27.890
looked like they were slowing down, but now the

00:21:27.890 --> 00:21:31.990
young guys are stepping up. Yeah. Not so young

00:21:31.990 --> 00:21:35.529
guys been killing it lately. Yeah. They've got,

00:21:35.549 --> 00:21:38.150
they've got some, I'm really excited for, for

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what's to come from them. And I know everyone,

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you know, with Modric sort of, nearing retirement

00:21:42.470 --> 00:21:44.849
and the other guys getting old kind of seemed

00:21:44.849 --> 00:21:47.750
like the golden years were going to end but you

00:21:47.750 --> 00:21:49.230
know i think we're still in a really good spot

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right now yeah i think it's great because well

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i mean now that modulich is uh departing i think

00:21:54.390 --> 00:21:56.089
you know other players should definitely step

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it up now in honor of him and obviously croatia

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you can never count them down so we'll see what

00:22:01.589 --> 00:22:05.500
they can do in the walk Absolutely. Yeah. Well,

00:22:05.579 --> 00:22:07.059
we're coming down here to the end of the podcast.

00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:09.920
I, you know, I want to thank you for coming on

00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:11.779
here. You know, you plugged your Instagram at

00:22:11.779 --> 00:22:14.119
Crow Samurai. Everyone check that out if you

00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:17.420
haven't yet. Anything else, you know, that you

00:22:17.420 --> 00:22:21.099
sort of want to say or, you know, talk about?

00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:27.299
No, like for me personally, like what made you

00:22:27.299 --> 00:22:30.609
start the podcast as well? That's a good question.

00:22:31.029 --> 00:22:34.849
I believe you probably have only the few podcast

00:22:34.849 --> 00:22:37.950
channels in America, I believe. Yeah, there's

00:22:37.950 --> 00:22:41.230
not too many. There's one in New York that there's

00:22:41.230 --> 00:22:43.809
a couple around the world. There's a couple that

00:22:43.809 --> 00:22:46.329
do it in Croatian, too, or like the radio programs,

00:22:46.509 --> 00:22:48.490
you know, that one that you were on a part of.

00:22:48.509 --> 00:22:53.690
What was that one called? Okay, that's over there

00:22:53.690 --> 00:22:57.430
in Sydney, right? okay yeah and then yeah there's

00:22:57.430 --> 00:23:01.490
a couple i think pods room pods room tv but yeah

00:23:01.490 --> 00:23:05.490
they're based in australia as well okay good

00:23:05.490 --> 00:23:08.950
yeah there's when i started this was like four

00:23:08.950 --> 00:23:11.509
ish four or five four and a half four years ago

00:23:11.509 --> 00:23:14.009
maybe and then yeah there was like wasn't much

00:23:14.009 --> 00:23:16.430
out there or at least stuff that i could find

00:23:16.430 --> 00:23:18.089
i'm sure there was some local you know like radio

00:23:18.089 --> 00:23:20.549
stations but just nothing that would pop up you

00:23:20.549 --> 00:23:22.829
know online for me that was like easily clickable

00:23:22.829 --> 00:23:25.750
and stuff and you know in english because i didn't

00:23:25.750 --> 00:23:29.329
know any croatian back then um and then i moved

00:23:29.329 --> 00:23:31.490
out to croatia you know i was doing this language

00:23:31.490 --> 00:23:34.049
program to learn it and i was working with a

00:23:34.049 --> 00:23:36.930
magazine called croatia week and they put a lot

00:23:36.930 --> 00:23:39.250
of good stuff all this in english but it's news

00:23:39.250 --> 00:23:42.710
about croatia and um i was working with the guy

00:23:42.710 --> 00:23:46.210
paul great guy and you know helped write some

00:23:46.210 --> 00:23:48.130
articles and stuff and you know got to a point

00:23:48.130 --> 00:23:50.849
where i was like what else you know can i can

00:23:50.849 --> 00:23:54.200
i do to like be more involved in Croatian culture

00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:56.980
and, you know, kind of spread and share what

00:23:56.980 --> 00:23:59.380
I'm doing over here, you know, to people back

00:23:59.380 --> 00:24:02.000
home or other people in the diaspora who don't

00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.700
speak Croatian. And so that's kind of when I

00:24:04.700 --> 00:24:07.839
got the idea for the podcast and I started it.

00:24:07.900 --> 00:24:10.119
I got some cool interviews sort of right off

00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:13.940
the bat who were some of the early ones. I had

00:24:13.940 --> 00:24:17.480
like Dino Raja, who's, you know, great basketball,

00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:20.839
Andrew Bogut. also which a lot of people yeah

00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:22.299
i remember you yeah so you did that yeah but

00:24:22.299 --> 00:24:24.460
good yeah yeah yeah oh yeah he's australian too

00:24:24.460 --> 00:24:26.740
i'm sure australian yeah australian player yeah

00:24:26.740 --> 00:24:29.599
he's like a really cool guy and i felt like a

00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:31.160
lot of people didn't even know you know that

00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:34.420
he was croatian because i mean he's born in australia

00:24:34.420 --> 00:24:37.140
but you know he's also very proud croatian roots

00:24:37.140 --> 00:24:39.660
his parents from there he's been back there i

00:24:39.660 --> 00:24:41.920
think he was telling me he was did he have a

00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:43.880
house or he was planning on buying a house somewhere

00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:46.579
up by the coast so yeah so i wanted to just interview

00:24:47.230 --> 00:24:49.710
both people who are you know in living in croatia

00:24:49.710 --> 00:24:51.809
and everyone knows or people that maybe they

00:24:51.809 --> 00:24:53.750
don't know you know have croatian roots and are

00:24:53.750 --> 00:24:56.150
doing pretty cool things around the world and

00:24:56.150 --> 00:24:58.609
that's sort of how i i got that idea and started

00:24:58.609 --> 00:25:01.670
that and i mean yeah you also you also did i

00:25:01.670 --> 00:25:06.210
think caitlyn clark no so that you're talking

00:25:06.210 --> 00:25:09.569
about the instagram uh video yeah yeah yeah no

00:25:09.569 --> 00:25:14.119
that one was on um Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey's

00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:16.660
podcast the two you know football player American

00:25:16.660 --> 00:25:20.339
football players and I someone messaged me like

00:25:20.339 --> 00:25:22.420
the day that that came out saying hey like Caitlin

00:25:22.420 --> 00:25:24.920
Clark was just talking about uh Croatia like

00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:27.059
you got to check this out and so I found so she

00:25:27.059 --> 00:25:29.619
was on their podcast and I found that and I clipped

00:25:29.619 --> 00:25:32.259
it and I posted it and then I tagged her in it

00:25:32.259 --> 00:25:34.980
and I said you know comment you know let's try

00:25:34.980 --> 00:25:36.700
and get her on the all things croatia podcast

00:25:36.700 --> 00:25:39.380
or whatever because uh it was actually the kelsey

00:25:39.380 --> 00:25:41.839
brothers in that one talked about how they were

00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:46.420
uh croatian that they found out that like great

00:25:46.420 --> 00:25:48.559
grandparents or something so i was trying to

00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:50.880
get them on by releasing that clip but you know

00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.640
it's hard it's hard to reach out on instagram

00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:54.920
to these famous people who get you know thousands

00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:58.000
of messages and but yeah that was a cool and

00:25:58.000 --> 00:25:59.980
that one blew up you know because kate mclark

00:25:59.980 --> 00:26:01.859
and especially at that point she was like huge

00:26:01.859 --> 00:26:04.319
and still is and so yeah everyone to see that

00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:07.319
was like whoa that's awesome so what she's called

00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.380
croatian roots as well she no she does not but

00:26:11.380 --> 00:26:14.460
she was saying that her college team her senior

00:26:14.460 --> 00:26:17.400
year went and played like a tournament in croatia

00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:19.440
and italy and a couple other countries and there

00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:21.660
she said that croatia was her favorite place

00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:24.599
that they got to see as part of that and she

00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:26.349
was you know, saying nothing but good things

00:26:26.349 --> 00:26:28.569
about the food there and the people. And so,

00:26:28.589 --> 00:26:30.930
yeah, people really love to see, you know, that

00:26:30.930 --> 00:26:33.130
Croatia was in the spotlight with this famous

00:26:33.130 --> 00:26:36.609
person who has no idea, you know, about Croatia

00:26:36.609 --> 00:26:38.589
or anything and then goes there and just falls

00:26:38.589 --> 00:26:41.329
in love with it. Yeah. You know, it's funny because

00:26:41.329 --> 00:26:43.049
I think I saw your recent interview in America

00:26:43.049 --> 00:26:46.650
where you interviewed people in America asking

00:26:46.650 --> 00:26:48.829
them if they know Croatia. And a lot of people

00:26:48.829 --> 00:26:51.750
didn't know, you know, what Croatia was. Yeah.

00:26:52.109 --> 00:26:55.130
From America, especially to... go there and actually

00:26:55.130 --> 00:26:57.250
love the country that must be a good feeling

00:26:57.250 --> 00:26:59.529
for you guys definitely yeah yeah and i know

00:26:59.529 --> 00:27:02.190
that's the the stereotype about americans but

00:27:02.190 --> 00:27:03.849
it really if i mean from doing those interviews

00:27:03.849 --> 00:27:06.789
it's true i mean i did i brought out a huge map

00:27:06.789 --> 00:27:08.549
i don't know if you saw that video and i asked

00:27:08.549 --> 00:27:10.930
people to like point as a point on this map or

00:27:10.930 --> 00:27:13.450
draw with a little sharpie where's croatia and

00:27:13.450 --> 00:27:15.190
they're looking at it and a lot of people just

00:27:15.190 --> 00:27:17.789
have no idea most people would put it somewhere

00:27:17.789 --> 00:27:20.069
around europe some people were thinking asian

00:27:20.069 --> 00:27:23.710
you know croatia asia one girl just put it like

00:27:23.710 --> 00:27:27.349
in south africa and she's like maybe right here

00:27:27.349 --> 00:27:30.190
it's like not pretty far away from there but

00:27:30.190 --> 00:27:32.990
you know it's just crazy that some people like

00:27:32.990 --> 00:27:35.769
that probably never even have heard of croatia

00:27:35.769 --> 00:27:38.910
yeah like if you just said the word croatia to

00:27:38.910 --> 00:27:40.609
them they wouldn't automatically think like oh

00:27:40.609 --> 00:27:43.230
a country like they would just say what maybe

00:27:43.230 --> 00:27:47.460
that's it's like a country or something Our geography

00:27:47.460 --> 00:27:52.859
knowledge over here is not the best. Even some

00:27:52.859 --> 00:27:56.180
people back home in Japan, I've asked a few people

00:27:56.180 --> 00:27:59.119
if they know where Croatia is or if they know

00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:01.660
what Croatia is. A lot of people said they didn't

00:28:01.660 --> 00:28:05.200
know. For me, if I can somehow get myself into

00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.480
the Japanese market as well and promote Croatia

00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:09.539
to the Japanese market, that would be a good

00:28:09.539 --> 00:28:11.279
goal to have as well. That would be awesome.

00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.390
I know we played them. what was this last world

00:28:15.390 --> 00:28:19.990
cup yeah that was cool and now i remember there

00:28:19.990 --> 00:28:22.210
was a big story that at the end even after the

00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:24.130
loss like all the japanese fans were cleaning

00:28:24.130 --> 00:28:26.690
up and they picked up all their trash and like

00:28:26.690 --> 00:28:28.710
that was that was cool to see that you know how

00:28:28.710 --> 00:28:31.450
just polite and respectful you know cleaning

00:28:31.450 --> 00:28:33.809
up which is something you take for granted i

00:28:33.809 --> 00:28:36.029
guess because i think that that happened on my

00:28:36.029 --> 00:28:38.009
birthday or that happened on the day after my

00:28:38.009 --> 00:28:39.809
birthday so all the croatians here were like

00:28:39.809 --> 00:28:41.589
to me oh you know this is the best birthday gift

00:28:41.589 --> 00:28:44.079
you're gonna get It was like, yeah, Croatia versus

00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:45.920
Japan in the, you know, first round of the world

00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:51.420
cup. So yeah. Oh man, that's awesome. Well, that's

00:28:51.420 --> 00:28:53.720
all the time we have for today. This has been

00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:55.220
a super fun episode. It's been awesome getting

00:28:55.220 --> 00:28:57.299
to know you. I'm excited to see, you know, what's,

00:28:57.299 --> 00:28:59.119
what's going to become of the account in the

00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:01.700
probably short term next couple of weeks. I'm

00:29:01.700 --> 00:29:03.319
sure it's going to just keep going. You're at

00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.000
20 something thousand followers right now. It's

00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:08.279
cool to see how people around the world are reacting

00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:10.740
to you and they're excited. And I'm going to

00:29:10.740 --> 00:29:13.299
give you a last question. which i give to everyone

00:29:13.299 --> 00:29:15.980
but it's you know what's your what's your favorite

00:29:15.980 --> 00:29:19.359
thing about croatia or croatian people or you

00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.980
know anything croatian related oh that was good

00:29:22.980 --> 00:29:25.019
i thought you were gonna ask me if i like a dinner

00:29:25.019 --> 00:29:28.599
more split i have a feeling that uh i already

00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:33.660
know the answer um well what i like about croatian

00:29:33.660 --> 00:29:38.319
croatians um it's probably the Well, first of

00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.720
all, with the Croatians is how they welcomed

00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.440
me with open arms for an outsider like me. They

00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:50.180
welcomed me with open arms. And after that, it's

00:29:50.180 --> 00:29:53.180
probably just the family first culture. No matter

00:29:53.180 --> 00:29:56.740
what it is, being around these people, they influenced

00:29:56.740 --> 00:30:00.380
me to become a family first person. Now, this

00:30:00.380 --> 00:30:03.279
might be weird to say, but in the Japanese culture,

00:30:03.420 --> 00:30:05.859
we tend to look at work first and then family

00:30:05.859 --> 00:30:08.500
comes second. But with the Croatian culture,

00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:10.579
it was no matter what it is, what the situation

00:30:10.579 --> 00:30:13.059
is, it's always family first and then everything

00:30:13.059 --> 00:30:16.559
else comes second. So for these people, when

00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:18.339
I was always around them and they were always

00:30:18.339 --> 00:30:19.839
talking about their family, they were always

00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:21.700
talking about introducing their brothers or cousins

00:30:21.700 --> 00:30:24.859
to me, that influenced me a lot into becoming

00:30:24.859 --> 00:30:28.079
a family first person. So that was probably the

00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:31.720
biggest, yeah, biggest like inspiring thing for

00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:35.019
me. the Croatian it's just the family first culture

00:30:35.019 --> 00:30:36.700
and probably the singing culture as well how

00:30:36.700 --> 00:30:39.500
everyone gets together in parties in Festa everyone

00:30:39.500 --> 00:30:42.039
gets together and just sings that was probably

00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.960
my favorite part awesome a great answer yeah

00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:46.480
I would say those are probably my favorite things

00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.700
too about you know Croatian culture and yeah

00:30:48.700 --> 00:30:50.279
I was just telling someone I think yesterday

00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:53.940
about like how when you ask like here in the

00:30:53.940 --> 00:30:55.380
U .S. you'll ask someone if you meet someone

00:30:55.380 --> 00:30:57.319
for the first time like probably the first one

00:30:57.319 --> 00:30:58.799
of the first questions is like what do you do

00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:00.779
and then you know they start talking about your

00:31:00.779 --> 00:31:03.660
job but like croatians i feel like that doesn't

00:31:03.660 --> 00:31:05.660
come up right away and when you ask about someone

00:31:05.660 --> 00:31:09.000
it's not just here's what i do for work 100 yeah

00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:12.900
yeah yeah definitely um i said on the radio last

00:31:12.900 --> 00:31:15.839
time but you know i said my my best friend tommy

00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:17.559
when he introduced me to the first couple of

00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.640
people it was um i remember the names clearly

00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:24.109
was auntie another auntie mark marco And then

00:31:24.109 --> 00:31:25.829
that was the first four or five people maybe.

00:31:25.930 --> 00:31:27.930
And then after that, I met a couple of maybe

00:31:27.930 --> 00:31:30.690
10 more aunties, 10 more Yossips, 10 more Marcos,

00:31:30.869 --> 00:31:34.450
10 more Lucas. And then they all come to me and

00:31:34.450 --> 00:31:35.930
they want to introduce their cousins to me. And

00:31:35.930 --> 00:31:37.750
then their cousins and brother's name is also

00:31:37.750 --> 00:31:41.950
auntie, Luca or Yossip or Marcos. I had a big

00:31:41.950 --> 00:31:43.450
trouble in the beginning trying to learn these

00:31:43.450 --> 00:31:45.789
names. It was so difficult. Oh, man, I still

00:31:45.789 --> 00:31:48.049
have that. I've got so much family that you say

00:31:48.049 --> 00:31:50.150
the first name and it could be, you know. five

00:31:50.150 --> 00:31:54.349
different people on both sides. Yeah. Croatians

00:31:54.349 --> 00:31:55.809
are not very, you know, they're like, well, me,

00:31:55.890 --> 00:31:57.930
my family, me, my mom, me, my dad, you know,

00:31:57.950 --> 00:32:00.130
me, my brother, me, my cousin. And, uh, it was

00:32:00.130 --> 00:32:02.329
just so welcoming and, uh, you know, warm warming

00:32:02.329 --> 00:32:04.769
as well. So that was just something I've never

00:32:04.769 --> 00:32:07.289
experienced before in my life. So hence why I

00:32:07.289 --> 00:32:10.410
think it leached onto me quite early. I love

00:32:10.410 --> 00:32:12.069
that. That's a great answer. Well, that's a gross

00:32:12.069 --> 00:32:14.849
samurai. Thank you so much for coming out here.

00:32:14.990 --> 00:32:16.990
All things Croatia podcast. It's been a great

00:32:16.990 --> 00:32:20.170
episode to, you know, have you on and, see what

00:32:20.170 --> 00:32:23.109
you know about Croatian culture and see how excited

00:32:23.109 --> 00:32:24.849
you are to share that, you know, with everyone

00:32:24.849 --> 00:32:27.670
else. So, you know, on behalf of everyone, I

00:32:27.670 --> 00:32:29.549
want to say thank you. And it's really cool what

00:32:29.549 --> 00:32:32.519
you're doing. Oh, thank you. Thank you from myself

00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:34.180
as well, Stanko. It's actually a full circle

00:32:34.180 --> 00:32:36.500
moment. I think I actually asked you three years

00:32:36.500 --> 00:32:38.819
ago on my Mr. Hrubatsky account if I can come

00:32:38.819 --> 00:32:40.579
on your podcast maybe in a couple of years once

00:32:40.579 --> 00:32:42.619
I have a few more followers. No way, really?

00:32:43.299 --> 00:32:45.539
Yeah, yeah. If you have a look on the messages,

00:32:45.700 --> 00:32:48.079
I actually sent you a message a couple of years

00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:50.579
ago when I had my Mr. Hrubatsky account in. I

00:32:50.579 --> 00:32:52.799
think back then you were still climbing as well

00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.660
and I was able to finally come on your podcast.

00:32:56.570 --> 00:32:58.150
Wow. I'm going to have to scroll up and look

00:32:58.150 --> 00:33:00.309
at that. Yeah, that's awesome. Full circle. Full

00:33:00.309 --> 00:33:03.490
circle moment. Awesome. Well, thank you for coming

00:33:03.490 --> 00:33:08.349
on the All Things Croatia podcast. Have a good

00:33:08.349 --> 00:33:08.490
one.
