1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,620 I'll welcome everyone into the podcast right now. 2 00:00:06,620 --> 00:00:09,840 Thanks for everyone listening to all things Croatia podcast. 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,740 We got a really special guest today. 4 00:00:11,740 --> 00:00:15,860 He's one of the greatest Croatian tennis players ever and all around athlete. 5 00:00:15,860 --> 00:00:20,020 He's won 21 ATP tour singles titles, including the US Open. 6 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:24,380 It was runner up at the 2017 Wimbledon and 2018 Australian Open. 7 00:00:24,380 --> 00:00:28,980 He's won a silver medal at the Olympics, 2020 Tokyo Olympics and the men's doubles tournament. 8 00:00:28,980 --> 00:00:30,660 It's going to be a fun episode. 9 00:00:30,660 --> 00:00:32,660 Marek, thanks for coming on the podcast. 10 00:00:32,660 --> 00:00:33,660 Pleasure. 11 00:00:33,660 --> 00:00:41,140 Thank you, Stanko, for having me and big regards to our Croatian community all around the world. 12 00:00:41,140 --> 00:00:42,140 Awesome. 13 00:00:42,140 --> 00:00:43,140 Yeah, this is going to be awesome. 14 00:00:43,140 --> 00:00:45,220 I could have made your intro a lot longer too. 15 00:00:45,220 --> 00:00:50,460 You have a lot of accomplishments, but for the sake of time, I had to shorten it just 16 00:00:50,460 --> 00:00:51,940 a couple of things there. 17 00:00:51,940 --> 00:00:58,820 Yeah, no, I know when I'm listening to these, it's quite impressive. 18 00:00:58,820 --> 00:01:01,820 So I like to hear those. 19 00:01:01,820 --> 00:01:06,300 When I get you on the next time, I'll give the extended version of that. 20 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:11,660 Now, you're born and raised in Medjugorje and my family, my grandparents were from not 21 00:01:11,660 --> 00:01:16,700 too far away near Luboski as well in Veljace, if you know where that is. 22 00:01:16,700 --> 00:01:21,260 So I know I played on the tennis courts in Veljace. 23 00:01:21,260 --> 00:01:22,260 Oh, really? 24 00:01:22,260 --> 00:01:23,260 Yes. 25 00:01:23,260 --> 00:01:24,260 Believe it or not. 26 00:01:24,260 --> 00:01:25,260 There are two. 27 00:01:25,260 --> 00:01:26,260 Is that the play one? 28 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:28,060 No, no, no, two hard courts. 29 00:01:28,060 --> 00:01:29,060 I don't know. 30 00:01:29,060 --> 00:01:34,940 Well, it was at my time when I was there was that was end of 1990s, you know, and then 31 00:01:34,940 --> 00:01:41,420 beginning of 2000s, we had some tournaments there in Veljace and then we played tournaments 32 00:01:41,420 --> 00:01:42,900 over there, the kids tournament. 33 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:43,900 Wow. 34 00:01:43,900 --> 00:01:46,380 I'm surprised to even hear that there were tournaments in Veljace. 35 00:01:46,380 --> 00:01:47,380 It's so small. 36 00:01:47,380 --> 00:01:48,380 Exactly. 37 00:01:48,380 --> 00:01:53,020 But two great, you know, hard courts, American style. 38 00:01:53,020 --> 00:01:54,820 So we enjoyed it. 39 00:01:54,820 --> 00:01:55,820 That's right. 40 00:01:55,820 --> 00:01:56,820 Yeah. 41 00:01:56,820 --> 00:02:00,500 I played I was in Zagreb for a few years over there living there and I was playing and I 42 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:04,460 was surprised that everywhere is just clay courts over there for the most part. 43 00:02:04,460 --> 00:02:07,700 And, you know, here in the US, I'm in Los Angeles and it's just all, you know, you go 44 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:09,900 to a park and there's hard courts all over. 45 00:02:09,900 --> 00:02:11,700 So I wasn't used to playing on clay. 46 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:12,700 Yes. 47 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:13,700 Yeah, exactly. 48 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:19,140 Croatians love to, you know, take care of the courts and everything, sweep them, water 49 00:02:19,140 --> 00:02:20,340 them and stuff. 50 00:02:20,340 --> 00:02:26,620 So like like their garden and, you know, very rarely we do have any hard courts around. 51 00:02:26,620 --> 00:02:27,620 That's funny. 52 00:02:27,620 --> 00:02:28,620 Yeah. 53 00:02:28,620 --> 00:02:31,340 Just like the, you know, bocce ball courts, same sort of way, taking care of everything. 54 00:02:31,340 --> 00:02:35,140 Well, so you're from Medjugorje, which is not too far away. 55 00:02:35,140 --> 00:02:40,100 And I think that probably means we're about cousins at some point, if you go back in time, 56 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:41,300 some type of distant cousin. 57 00:02:41,300 --> 00:02:43,740 So I'm just going to go ahead and say that here. 58 00:02:43,740 --> 00:02:45,340 Why not? 59 00:02:45,340 --> 00:02:50,740 Can you tell me a little bit about, you know, growing up and what your childhood was like 60 00:02:50,740 --> 00:02:52,740 over there? 61 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:55,020 Yes, of course. 62 00:02:55,020 --> 00:03:01,420 I mean, actually, a lot of people that I've met, you know, across the globe have a lot 63 00:03:01,420 --> 00:03:03,380 of roots. 64 00:03:03,380 --> 00:03:05,960 Quite often roots are from Herzegovina. 65 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:11,160 So it's a huge diaspora community of people from Herzegovina. 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,660 So it's always great to travel around and meet new people. 67 00:03:15,660 --> 00:03:19,980 But you know, to tell you about how I was growing up. 68 00:03:19,980 --> 00:03:27,380 Well, after the war, you know, it was quite a happy childhood. 69 00:03:27,380 --> 00:03:32,380 I started with tennis in 1994, 1995. 70 00:03:32,380 --> 00:03:39,060 And then my father built a tennis court in our backyard in 1996. 71 00:03:39,060 --> 00:03:47,340 And so at that time, it was crazy to even think about it, you know, in 1996 to build 72 00:03:47,340 --> 00:03:48,340 a tennis court. 73 00:03:48,340 --> 00:03:54,740 I still remember, you know, like my grandfather, grandma, you know, at that time, when my father 74 00:03:54,740 --> 00:03:58,820 told them that he's going to build a tennis court, they told him he's nuts, you know, 75 00:03:58,820 --> 00:04:02,260 what you're going to do, child, child, what you're going to do with the tennis court? 76 00:04:02,260 --> 00:04:06,960 I mean, do a business center, do something, rent it, whatever. 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,320 And he said, no, no, no, leave me leave me at peace. 78 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,020 You know, I know what I'm doing. 79 00:04:12,020 --> 00:04:16,700 And he wanted to give opportunity for me, for my brothers as well. 80 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:20,780 To train and to, you know, go go for some sports. 81 00:04:20,780 --> 00:04:26,980 And so those were the starting days of my, you know, tennis childhood, you know, going 82 00:04:26,980 --> 00:04:28,380 to school after school. 83 00:04:28,380 --> 00:04:35,540 My father is waiting for me, taking me to the tennis sessions first in Lubuski at Mostar 84 00:04:35,540 --> 00:04:37,700 Skavrata. 85 00:04:37,700 --> 00:04:44,780 If you know where Mostar Skavrata are over there with one great tennis coach and then 86 00:04:44,780 --> 00:04:52,900 also in Medjugorje with Ivan, Ivan Dodig and his younger brother, Misho, who is similar 87 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:53,900 age as me. 88 00:04:53,900 --> 00:04:58,720 And so we grew up basically together, you know, starting together, playing together 89 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:04,940 and then, you know, playing those local tournaments in Herzegovina, then in Dalmeyša and everything. 90 00:05:04,940 --> 00:05:14,860 And you know, at that time, no internet, no knowledge of, you know, the sport. 91 00:05:14,860 --> 00:05:22,380 Tennis was basically new in Herzegovina, you know, watching Goran on TV, his Wimbledon's 92 00:05:22,380 --> 00:05:25,180 and then his trophy in 2001. 93 00:05:25,180 --> 00:05:29,320 I mean, most of the it was, I have to say it was like a huge boom. 94 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,700 Tennis was was a huge boom. 95 00:05:30,700 --> 00:05:37,940 I mean, comparing to today's time, like there were so many kids playing and it was it was 96 00:05:37,940 --> 00:05:41,580 great for tennis guys, but there was competition. 97 00:05:41,580 --> 00:05:46,820 And I still remember we would play, you know, tournaments that were, I don't know, let's 98 00:05:46,820 --> 00:05:49,780 say 16 and under or 14 and under. 99 00:05:49,780 --> 00:05:56,460 And then there would be a mix of kids from 80 year olds until 14 year olds, boys, girls, 100 00:05:56,460 --> 00:05:57,540 everybody, you know, played. 101 00:05:57,540 --> 00:06:04,820 So and then, you know, all the parents hang around together, you know, dreaming possibly 102 00:06:04,820 --> 00:06:07,620 if anybody is going to achieve something. 103 00:06:07,620 --> 00:06:14,620 And it was huge sort of unknown territory. 104 00:06:14,620 --> 00:06:19,980 What do you need to do basically to succeed, you know, to to, you know, get to Wimbledon 105 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:25,300 to get to top 100, you know, it's you have no idea is this level good enough, what to 106 00:06:25,300 --> 00:06:26,740 train, what not to train. 107 00:06:26,740 --> 00:06:34,580 So but, you know, you know, I obviously give huge credit to my parents, to my father, who 108 00:06:34,580 --> 00:06:42,020 was like really diligent and comparing it to today's time, you know, where, you know, 109 00:06:42,020 --> 00:06:48,060 things are so busy lives are, you know, busy days are going like this to have this kind 110 00:06:48,060 --> 00:06:50,900 of dedication for your own child. 111 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:56,060 You know, like I was even going for like three years in the most star. 112 00:06:56,060 --> 00:06:57,100 I come from school. 113 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:58,900 My father is waiting for me. 114 00:06:58,900 --> 00:07:00,860 I get some lunch. 115 00:07:00,860 --> 00:07:05,820 You know, my father drives me to most are like 30 minutes over there. 116 00:07:05,820 --> 00:07:09,700 I warm up, do a training session for like two, two and a half hours. 117 00:07:09,700 --> 00:07:15,820 He's watching everything waiting for me, drives me back home every single day, every weekend, 118 00:07:15,820 --> 00:07:18,340 you know, some tournaments in Dalmatia. 119 00:07:18,340 --> 00:07:25,620 You know, it was like it was, you know, like from today's standpoint of a parent, you know, 120 00:07:25,620 --> 00:07:33,740 it's just amazing, you know, like how you find this sort of even a vision, you know, 121 00:07:33,740 --> 00:07:40,140 to give your child this kind of opportunity, you know, this so much time, dedication, tournaments, 122 00:07:40,140 --> 00:07:41,140 etc. 123 00:07:41,140 --> 00:07:43,020 So that was huge. 124 00:07:43,020 --> 00:07:53,460 And then overall, you know, small place, Medjugorje, you know, obviously, you know, very well known 125 00:07:53,460 --> 00:07:58,540 in the world, you know, for a St. Mary appearances and etc. 126 00:07:58,540 --> 00:08:00,420 And living in a family. 127 00:08:00,420 --> 00:08:05,500 And I have to say, I've been all around the world, but you know, okay, I haven't been 128 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:13,420 everywhere, but the life in Herzegovina is incomparable with anywhere, you know, how 129 00:08:13,420 --> 00:08:18,540 people live, you know, there is every Sunday, there is a mass, you know, after the mass, 130 00:08:18,540 --> 00:08:24,100 okay, we grab a coffee, we grab a drink, we go to, you know, for lunch at this cousin, 131 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:30,660 this cousin, and then, you know, every second weekend, there is somebody getting married, 132 00:08:30,660 --> 00:08:36,580 you know, there is, you know, all these big holidays, Christmas, Easter, you know, Veli 133 00:08:36,580 --> 00:08:44,940 Kagorska, you know, so it's a, you know, life of a community, a real life of a community. 134 00:08:44,940 --> 00:08:48,900 And it's I always enjoyed that at home. 135 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:54,940 And, you know, I think it's a beautiful, beautiful area for kids to grow and to, you know, develop, 136 00:08:54,940 --> 00:08:56,780 you know, the childhood. 137 00:08:56,780 --> 00:08:59,020 But yes, overall was was interesting. 138 00:08:59,020 --> 00:09:03,980 And then, you know, it's when I was 14, and then I moved to Zagreb for, you know, for 139 00:09:03,980 --> 00:09:07,900 a search of better, better conditions. 140 00:09:07,900 --> 00:09:08,900 How do you like it in Zagreb? 141 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:14,280 I mean, I know they say Zagreb is too fast over there and too many people, which is funny 142 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,940 for me in Los Angeles, you know, because when I go to Zagreb, I say, Oh, this is nice. 143 00:09:17,940 --> 00:09:18,940 It's so quiet. 144 00:09:18,940 --> 00:09:19,940 Yeah, exactly. 145 00:09:19,940 --> 00:09:26,420 I mean, for me as a kid, you know, I came to Zagreb, I was with my godfather here, who 146 00:09:26,420 --> 00:09:27,420 is also from Medjugorje. 147 00:09:27,420 --> 00:09:29,940 He knew my father, they knew each other. 148 00:09:29,940 --> 00:09:35,460 Well, and then I was at his, you know, with his apartment, you know, he was him and his 149 00:09:35,460 --> 00:09:38,500 wife were taking care of me, blah, blah, blah. 150 00:09:38,500 --> 00:09:43,680 But I was I was here with one goal, you know, tennis, you know, tennis training. 151 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:50,620 So I would go to a tennis national tennis center from, I don't know, eight, 8am until 152 00:09:50,620 --> 00:09:52,620 and I would be there until 5pm. 153 00:09:52,620 --> 00:09:58,160 So for me, busy life of Zagreb didn't exist, you know, especially for a kid. 154 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,820 So I was, you know, dedicated to training. 155 00:10:00,820 --> 00:10:03,020 And you know, that was my goal. 156 00:10:03,020 --> 00:10:04,260 Yeah. 157 00:10:04,260 --> 00:10:08,340 At what point in your, you know, when you started playing tennis, did you think like, 158 00:10:08,340 --> 00:10:11,940 okay, I can, I can seriously become a professional tennis player? 159 00:10:11,940 --> 00:10:18,980 Like, at what point did you know that you really could have a career in tennis? 160 00:10:18,980 --> 00:10:21,140 You never know until you get there. 161 00:10:21,140 --> 00:10:31,520 You know, so well, in 2005, I was not even 17, then I won this junior French Open title. 162 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:37,260 But even then, it's still unknown, you know, because I've played a few of these professional 163 00:10:37,260 --> 00:10:43,460 tournaments and I still don't know what is necessary to, you know, to succeed and sort 164 00:10:43,460 --> 00:10:52,100 of even this kind of a feeling of unknown possibly is a positive feeling. 165 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:55,860 You are sort of focused on your development, you're diligent. 166 00:10:55,860 --> 00:11:01,940 I was always, you know, very irresponsible, you know, I never missed a training, you know, 167 00:11:01,940 --> 00:11:05,060 very rarely, you know, thank God, sick or anything. 168 00:11:05,060 --> 00:11:09,740 I, you know, since I came to Zagreb, I don't know if I was, you know, had a fever for, 169 00:11:09,740 --> 00:11:14,940 I don't know, twice in my life, you know, so it was really, really fortunate. 170 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:20,180 And so you just train and you hope it's, you know, it's good enough. 171 00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:26,460 And so I would say maybe, you know, end of 2005, 2000, start of 2006, I was, you know, 172 00:11:26,460 --> 00:11:31,700 catching this feeling that, you know, I might, you know, do something but how big, you never 173 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:32,700 know. 174 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:33,700 Yeah, definitely. 175 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:40,340 Well, tell me a little bit about like the early days of being a pro before, before 2014, 176 00:11:40,340 --> 00:11:43,540 before the US Open, you know, when you won that, because I do want to ask you about that 177 00:11:43,540 --> 00:11:47,100 too, but sort of the early days of being a pro and, you know, being on the road, doing 178 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:48,100 all these tournaments. 179 00:11:48,100 --> 00:11:50,180 I mean, did you enjoy all of that? 180 00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:51,180 Was that fun? 181 00:11:51,180 --> 00:11:53,420 Did it feel like work at times? 182 00:11:53,420 --> 00:11:57,700 Yeah, I mean, for me, tennis never never felt like work. 183 00:11:57,700 --> 00:12:00,940 I love tennis, you know, and still and still do. 184 00:12:00,940 --> 00:12:06,220 And even looking back now, you know, if I would do it all over again, yeah, why not? 185 00:12:06,220 --> 00:12:08,460 You know, let's go, let's go again. 186 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:13,140 But you know, can I keep this experience and knowledge that would be, that would be incredible. 187 00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:22,240 And those early, early years have been, you know, have put a huge mark in a way of me 188 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:30,620 getting to know my coach who passed away, Bob Brett, who was also coach of Goran for 189 00:12:30,620 --> 00:12:33,980 years and then Mario Antic as well. 190 00:12:33,980 --> 00:12:40,540 And then he had his own mentorship giving me and leading me through, you know, training 191 00:12:40,540 --> 00:12:44,660 programs, how to, you know, develop as a great player and things like that. 192 00:12:44,660 --> 00:12:48,300 And he had huge influence on me in these early years. 193 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:52,680 And then that was, that was huge for me, huge for my career. 194 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:59,960 And just for looking back, he accelerated my knowledge, my development by, you know, 195 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:06,080 how many years passing me these messages and his knowledge to me. 196 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,460 And so it was fun. 197 00:13:07,460 --> 00:13:08,820 I have to say it was fun. 198 00:13:08,820 --> 00:13:13,960 And then my brother, my older brother, Vinco was with me traveling, you know, just helping 199 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,020 me being me, you know, like a support and somebody else on the tour. 200 00:13:18,020 --> 00:13:23,980 You know, I really, you know, had a great time played for my first Olympics in 2008. 201 00:13:23,980 --> 00:13:25,940 So it was, it was nice time. 202 00:13:25,940 --> 00:13:31,420 Well, it sounds like, you know, you're talking about these coaching your coaches and how, 203 00:13:31,420 --> 00:13:35,980 you know, you wish you had all these skills and knowledge that you have now back then 204 00:13:35,980 --> 00:13:40,340 is coaching something that you are interested in doing at some point later. 205 00:13:40,340 --> 00:13:42,700 Yes, yes, I am. 206 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:43,700 Yes, I am. 207 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:45,220 I would, I would love to do it. 208 00:13:45,220 --> 00:13:50,020 I mean, obviously, I wouldn't like to travel, you know, as I've traveled, you know, whole 209 00:13:50,020 --> 00:13:55,700 my life, I've tried to be based and, you know, be around my family a little bit more, but 210 00:13:55,700 --> 00:14:01,740 I would like to pass on this knowledge and to teach kids, especially in Croatia and in 211 00:14:01,740 --> 00:14:08,180 our community, you know, to just give them a push and, you know, possibly do something 212 00:14:08,180 --> 00:14:09,180 like this. 213 00:14:09,180 --> 00:14:15,540 I was never at the moment, I'm not, I'm not a person to be, you know, sort of in administration, 214 00:14:15,540 --> 00:14:21,260 you know, in these like, you know, like more official roles, you know, being whatever in 215 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:23,260 ATP, you know, things like that. 216 00:14:23,260 --> 00:14:28,660 I would like to be more involved in this kind of development process of kids and, you know, 217 00:14:28,660 --> 00:14:30,220 just trying to pass on the knowledge. 218 00:14:30,220 --> 00:14:34,740 Well, you know, next time I go back to Zagreb in the summer, I'm expecting a lesson from 219 00:14:34,740 --> 00:14:36,860 you at Salata at the courts over there. 220 00:14:36,860 --> 00:14:37,860 So why not? 221 00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:41,380 But you know, you got to be ready. 222 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:42,380 It's that easy. 223 00:14:42,380 --> 00:14:43,380 I'll be ready. 224 00:14:43,380 --> 00:14:44,380 I'll be ready. 225 00:14:44,380 --> 00:14:45,380 That's awesome. 226 00:14:45,380 --> 00:14:51,660 Well, tell me, Marian, tell me about the US Open 2014, you know, because that's awesome. 227 00:14:51,660 --> 00:14:52,660 That's, you know, that was your... 228 00:14:52,660 --> 00:14:53,660 What do you want to know? 229 00:14:53,660 --> 00:14:54,660 What do you want to know? 230 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:58,460 What did it feel like? 231 00:14:58,460 --> 00:14:59,940 I mean, what did it feel like? 232 00:14:59,940 --> 00:15:09,620 It's a, you know, it's a, you know, life, life's accomplishment, you know, you know, 233 00:15:09,620 --> 00:15:15,500 everything that you've been working for, you know, parents, you know, pushing through difficult 234 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:20,580 times, you know, you know, having difficulties, you know, financially, you know, giving you 235 00:15:20,580 --> 00:15:26,420 whatever, you know, the best they can, you know, struggling times, you know, everything 236 00:15:26,420 --> 00:15:31,460 you're thinking if you're going to, you know, continue to play, not, you know, how this 237 00:15:31,460 --> 00:15:38,380 everything is going to end up and then, you know, years and years of trying, especially 238 00:15:38,380 --> 00:15:44,340 in that kind of competition with Roger, with Nadal, with Novak, with Andy Murray, with, 239 00:15:44,340 --> 00:15:52,740 you know, many great athletes of, you know, this tennis era and then, you know, to create 240 00:15:52,740 --> 00:15:54,780 this kind of a history. 241 00:15:54,780 --> 00:15:58,220 It's like, wow, you know, it's, it's just incredible. 242 00:15:58,220 --> 00:16:04,340 So, you know, I mean, it's too difficult, you know, to put in words. 243 00:16:04,340 --> 00:16:05,340 Yeah, of course. 244 00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:09,180 And I know you have a wife and kids, so I'm not going to ask, is that the best moment 245 00:16:09,180 --> 00:16:11,180 of your life when you won the US Open? 246 00:16:11,180 --> 00:16:13,340 But is it one of the best? 247 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:19,860 No, it's, you know, tennis here, family is, you know, just a huge part of my life. 248 00:16:19,860 --> 00:16:24,980 You know, tennis is going to be there for, okay, hoping a few more years. 249 00:16:24,980 --> 00:16:30,580 But, you know, it's, you know, okay, you obviously have your accomplishments and what you dream 250 00:16:30,580 --> 00:16:34,720 of, what you're training for, what you want to succeed at. 251 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:42,220 And also, I want to mention also feeling of how you succeed, you know, because you have 252 00:16:42,220 --> 00:16:47,140 sometimes as an athlete, I would put it as an athlete, not necessarily tennis player, 253 00:16:47,140 --> 00:16:52,020 you have a feeling of, you know, some tournaments, let's say you win, but you didn't play your 254 00:16:52,020 --> 00:16:53,020 best. 255 00:16:53,020 --> 00:16:58,620 It was a little bit like, you know, just scrapping, you know, I was just trying to find a way, 256 00:16:58,620 --> 00:17:00,940 but you know, winning like this US Open. 257 00:17:00,940 --> 00:17:03,220 I mean, this is, this is incredible. 258 00:17:03,220 --> 00:17:08,820 Winning the last three matches without dropping a set, you know, against Nishikori, Berdich, 259 00:17:08,820 --> 00:17:09,820 Federer. 260 00:17:09,820 --> 00:17:12,660 I mean, can it be better, you know? 261 00:17:12,660 --> 00:17:14,580 Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that. 262 00:17:14,580 --> 00:17:18,300 Yeah, because you beat Federer in the semis, you know, at that US Open. 263 00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:23,620 And I want to ask who have who have the big three, you know, which are Jokovic, Federer 264 00:17:23,620 --> 00:17:28,340 and Nadal is sort of, you know, in the tennis community, the big three, which of them three 265 00:17:28,340 --> 00:17:33,500 is is the toughest for you to play against? 266 00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:36,700 With the style Novak, with the style Novak. 267 00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:45,940 But I mean, and I'm also looking into that more into the, you know, in the years of 2010s, 268 00:17:45,940 --> 00:17:51,980 you know, and Roger was already in his 30s and played a little bit different, you know, 269 00:17:51,980 --> 00:17:52,980 tennis. 270 00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:56,700 I would have loved to play against him, you know, when he was in his prime, I would say 271 00:17:56,700 --> 00:18:01,620 prime, you know, 2004, five, six, seven. 272 00:18:01,620 --> 00:18:05,180 But but yeah, I mean, all three are definitely special. 273 00:18:05,180 --> 00:18:11,540 And I have to say Novak just because of his kind of style where no weaknesses and plays, 274 00:18:11,540 --> 00:18:13,740 I would say quite similar game as me. 275 00:18:13,740 --> 00:18:17,700 But you know, just on a better level. 276 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:24,420 If Roger went to the Veliatsi tournament in 2004, then maybe you could have played him. 277 00:18:24,420 --> 00:18:30,420 Yes, exactly. 278 00:18:30,420 --> 00:18:35,140 Who of those three do you do enjoy beating the most? 279 00:18:35,140 --> 00:18:37,100 Is there a certain feeling? 280 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:39,820 Are you friends with all of them, you know, off the court? 281 00:18:39,820 --> 00:18:42,220 Yes, yes, yes, I am. 282 00:18:42,220 --> 00:18:43,220 Yes, I am. 283 00:18:43,220 --> 00:18:49,180 I mean, even with Roger, with Rafa, even okay now when I won this tournament in China, you 284 00:18:49,180 --> 00:18:52,940 know, Roger texted me, I mean, Maureen, you know, so happy for you because I spoke with 285 00:18:52,940 --> 00:18:59,540 him last year because he went also through difficult times with surgeries for his knee. 286 00:18:59,540 --> 00:19:03,740 And I spoke to him, you know, about his experience, etc. 287 00:19:03,740 --> 00:19:05,380 And so he knew what I was going through. 288 00:19:05,380 --> 00:19:11,740 And so he was like over the moon of, you know, happy for me to come back this way. 289 00:19:11,740 --> 00:19:17,780 And then I was also I saw Rafa, I was at his tournament in actually in his academy a few 290 00:19:17,780 --> 00:19:21,540 several weeks ago at the end of August, I played a challenger at his academy and also 291 00:19:21,540 --> 00:19:22,540 saw him there. 292 00:19:22,540 --> 00:19:25,860 And he's, you know, I, you know, I admire them a lot. 293 00:19:25,860 --> 00:19:30,940 And you know, during the whole career, I always had great respect, not only to them, but to 294 00:19:30,940 --> 00:19:31,940 all the players. 295 00:19:31,940 --> 00:19:32,940 And they appreciate that. 296 00:19:32,940 --> 00:19:38,620 So but with Novak, obviously, we speak the same language, similar age, you know, and 297 00:19:38,620 --> 00:19:41,300 Novak is definitely also a great guy. 298 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:47,900 Yeah, I've got a couple more questions later about sort of being being friends with tennis 299 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:49,860 players and being competitive. 300 00:19:49,860 --> 00:19:52,260 But I'll get to that later. 301 00:19:52,260 --> 00:19:56,620 But right now, you know, I want to ask now about the Olympics, the 2020 Olympics, specifically, 302 00:19:56,620 --> 00:19:57,620 which which was 303 00:19:57,620 --> 00:20:05,980 special because it was two pairs of Croatia 2021. 304 00:20:05,980 --> 00:20:09,500 Yeah, with the COVID. 305 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:12,460 But yeah, because you guys played it was the men's doubles. 306 00:20:12,460 --> 00:20:17,820 And you played another Croatian doubles, which to me is still weird that they even have, 307 00:20:17,820 --> 00:20:22,060 you know, two teams of the same country in the Olympics, but somehow it happened that 308 00:20:22,060 --> 00:20:24,860 you guys won gold and silver at the Olympics. 309 00:20:24,860 --> 00:20:27,300 What was that like? 310 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:29,700 It was very weird. 311 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:36,940 It was very weird, I have to say, when we when we started, when we actually got to Tokyo. 312 00:20:36,940 --> 00:20:39,100 And so I mean, we all got together over there. 313 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:43,740 And you know, as a team, okay, let's, you know, play like a training set. 314 00:20:43,740 --> 00:20:50,740 And then on the on the training, the level was unbelievable, because Mati and Mektec, 315 00:20:50,740 --> 00:20:54,380 they won the Wimbledon just prior to that. 316 00:20:54,380 --> 00:20:55,380 I don't know. 317 00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:56,380 What was it like? 318 00:20:56,380 --> 00:20:58,620 What was it maybe like 10 days prior to that? 319 00:20:58,620 --> 00:21:01,420 And they were like in the form of their life. 320 00:21:01,420 --> 00:21:05,140 And me and Ivan played like a ridiculous set of tennis. 321 00:21:05,140 --> 00:21:12,380 And then I remember, you know, talking to Mati and Nikola after the tournament. 322 00:21:12,380 --> 00:21:17,140 I mean, Marina and Ivan are playing ridiculous. 323 00:21:17,140 --> 00:21:20,460 They're going to be in the final for sure, you know, we're going to I mean, if we play 324 00:21:20,460 --> 00:21:23,940 well, we might play them, you know, and so it happened like this. 325 00:21:23,940 --> 00:21:30,780 And it was funny, and it was weird in the same way, because the day before our finals, 326 00:21:30,780 --> 00:21:32,100 so we made it to the final. 327 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:41,180 And so at Olympic Village, in our Croatian corner, there was a celebration of Sincovich 328 00:21:41,180 --> 00:21:44,460 brothers winning the gold medal in rowing. 329 00:21:44,460 --> 00:21:49,540 And then also to, you know, four of us, you know, two teams making the finals. 330 00:21:49,540 --> 00:21:53,100 So it was like, you know, celebrations like we already won, you know, it's 331 00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:56,540 like tomorrow doesn't exist. 332 00:21:56,540 --> 00:22:01,100 And so it was mixed emotions when we started to play. 333 00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:04,820 It was like, should we, you know, fist pump or not? 334 00:22:04,820 --> 00:22:06,420 Should we speak or not? 335 00:22:06,420 --> 00:22:07,660 You know, like it was. 336 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:10,460 And then also there was no crowd. 337 00:22:10,460 --> 00:22:14,260 And then also, you know, it was just kind of like a weird atmosphere. 338 00:22:14,260 --> 00:22:17,460 It felt like I think the weirdest match I played all my life. 339 00:22:17,460 --> 00:22:21,740 And so ended up OK, Mati and Nikola won in the end. 340 00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:29,300 And obviously incredible, obviously, you know, time for them, you know, those 341 00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:31,420 those those time that they played together. 342 00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:35,420 But it was, you know, accomplishment, incredible, especially for me and Ivan 343 00:22:35,420 --> 00:22:39,460 playing together, growing up together, getting to the final of if we would have 344 00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:44,420 won a goal, it would have been, you know, just a crazy, crazy story. 345 00:22:44,420 --> 00:22:46,980 Yeah. Well, yeah, definitely a strange situation. 346 00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:49,660 And the no crowd, too. I forgot about that. 347 00:22:49,660 --> 00:22:52,980 And that I was kind of wondering about this because I was thinking how tennis 348 00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:56,540 is one of the few sports where, you know, the crowd is supposed to be quiet, right? 349 00:22:56,540 --> 00:22:59,500 They can't, you know, they're not cheering during the play and stuff. 350 00:22:59,860 --> 00:23:01,420 Probably tennis and golf. 351 00:23:01,420 --> 00:23:04,380 I'm sure there's a few others, but those are probably the big ones that I can think of. 352 00:23:05,620 --> 00:23:07,500 I mean, what would it be like? 353 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:10,900 Have you ever played maybe at like some of the junior tournaments or, you know, 354 00:23:10,900 --> 00:23:14,100 maybe less professional tournaments, I guess, where they don't, you know, 355 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:17,540 make the crowd be quiet, but where there's like been a rowdy crowd 356 00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:18,980 and everyone's yelling and cheering. 357 00:23:18,980 --> 00:23:20,180 Do you think that would help? 358 00:23:20,180 --> 00:23:22,780 Because I feel like that would be, I don't know, a big motivator, 359 00:23:22,780 --> 00:23:23,900 you know, as you're playing. 360 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:26,540 Or would that be distracting? Yeah. 361 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:30,180 I think we would adjust, you know, it's a. 362 00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:34,900 I don't think it would make a difference for us, 363 00:23:35,620 --> 00:23:40,420 for tennis players, for us, only things that can cause 364 00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:44,340 a little bit of a distraction is when you are, you know, sort of watching 365 00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:47,620 the flight of the ball and then, you know, somebody starts to, OK, 366 00:23:47,620 --> 00:23:51,780 walk in the stands and then you lose a little bit of a focus and then, OK, 367 00:23:51,780 --> 00:23:53,540 you don't see the ball possibly. 368 00:23:53,540 --> 00:23:58,780 But, you know, I don't think it would be a huge, like a difference 369 00:23:58,780 --> 00:24:01,660 to play with the crowd, even even cheering, you know. 370 00:24:02,140 --> 00:24:05,140 I think that would be cool if it was like, you know, going to a football game, 371 00:24:05,140 --> 00:24:08,500 everyone's chanting, oh boy, oh boy, as you're serving or something. 372 00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:11,620 You would serve like 10 times harder. 373 00:24:11,620 --> 00:24:15,100 Yes. Yeah. I mean, when I when I was a junior, 374 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:18,940 when I played in Australia and opened the Swedes have had incredible, 375 00:24:18,940 --> 00:24:21,780 like a fan community down in Australia. 376 00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:27,020 And so all of them, like 500 of them would wear, you know, those Viking, 377 00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:31,820 you know, helmets, you know, those the flags on the faces, 378 00:24:32,140 --> 00:24:35,740 you know, the yellow and blue shirts, blah, blah, blah. 379 00:24:35,740 --> 00:24:38,740 And then when the Swedes would play, it's a warm up time. 380 00:24:38,740 --> 00:24:43,700 And then 500 of them in the stands, whatever, you know, the sweet player 381 00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:45,780 hits the ball and they all go, boom. 382 00:24:48,140 --> 00:24:49,620 Like 500 of them. 383 00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:52,700 It's not like, you know, going to the whatever on the battlefield. 384 00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:54,540 It was it was like hilarious. 385 00:24:54,540 --> 00:24:56,580 Every time they hit it or just on the serve? 386 00:24:57,380 --> 00:25:00,940 No, like in the warm up, you know, you have five minutes as a warm up. 387 00:25:00,940 --> 00:25:04,820 And then, you know, if the other player would miss, they would go all. 388 00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:07,980 That's pretty cool, actually. 389 00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:09,860 Yeah, they would celebrate. 390 00:25:09,860 --> 00:25:11,940 So it would be it would be fun, for sure. 391 00:25:11,940 --> 00:25:16,620 Well, at the 2025 Veliatsi tournament, we'll have that set up. 392 00:25:16,620 --> 00:25:18,260 You know, we'll make everyone do that. 393 00:25:18,260 --> 00:25:19,260 Absolutely. 394 00:25:20,460 --> 00:25:24,260 How do you I want to ask about sort of like the mental aspect of the game, 395 00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:27,900 which I guess is related to, you know, this and the fans and hearing everything. 396 00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:30,220 How do you train for that? 397 00:25:30,220 --> 00:25:33,140 You know, especially say at some point, you know, maybe you start, 398 00:25:33,380 --> 00:25:37,300 you know, two sets up and then you drop two sets and now the opponent has 399 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:40,740 the momentum and, you know, how do you train for that mentally to get 400 00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:44,260 yourself back in and not think about all that and just play? 401 00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:48,980 One one thing is your character. 402 00:25:49,980 --> 00:25:52,180 The other thing is your training as well. 403 00:25:52,980 --> 00:25:57,900 How, you know, resilient you are, how actually accepting you are. 404 00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:01,740 That's OK. You know, I could have been I could have won this match, 405 00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:03,740 but I didn't, you know, let's keep going. 406 00:26:04,220 --> 00:26:06,500 That can obviously rattle you out. 407 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:13,220 But also it comes down. When you simplify it, what can I do at this moment? 408 00:26:13,220 --> 00:26:15,700 What best I can do at this moment? 409 00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:18,420 OK, this happened. You know, I was too stressed to love up. 410 00:26:18,420 --> 00:26:20,420 I lost those two sets. 411 00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:23,380 What can I do the best at this moment? And then 412 00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:29,420 basically, you know, trying to be simple with that, you know, you have to be 413 00:26:29,420 --> 00:26:34,820 peaceful, but a huge part to this mental attitude, not only in the 414 00:26:34,820 --> 00:26:39,660 tennis, I would say in general, is sports my my just observation, but 415 00:26:39,660 --> 00:26:46,860 especially in tennis, that you cannot escape the life that you actually live. 416 00:26:46,860 --> 00:26:50,860 You know, if you have a thing in your mind that, you know, happened to you, 417 00:26:50,860 --> 00:26:55,980 whatever, that it's just bothering you, you know, around tennis or something. 418 00:26:56,460 --> 00:27:00,620 And then you get into the match and let's say possible scenario. 419 00:27:00,620 --> 00:27:04,780 There are some critical decisions, obviously, when you play every point 420 00:27:04,780 --> 00:27:09,220 on every shot, you do a decision, you know, am I going to play this, that, 421 00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:12,420 you know, which shot left, right, whatever, blah, blah, blah. 422 00:27:12,420 --> 00:27:15,980 And then in some critical decisions, you make this kind of decision. 423 00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:17,780 Doesn't turn out to be a good one. 424 00:27:17,780 --> 00:27:20,340 You lose a point and another one and another one and another one and 425 00:27:20,340 --> 00:27:23,820 another one. It can be can happen like 50 times that this happens. 426 00:27:24,260 --> 00:27:28,180 And then if you're not sort of clear with your mind, you know, 427 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:33,380 if you're not sort of clear with your mind that, OK, and accepting. 428 00:27:34,540 --> 00:27:38,140 If you have some a bug in your mind that it's going to trigger, 429 00:27:38,860 --> 00:27:41,620 it's going to trigger 100 percent. 430 00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:43,980 There is no real escape. 431 00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:49,740 If it doesn't trigger, it's going to just put you into mode of not really fighting. 432 00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:53,460 You know, you're going to lose a little bit of that edge of, you know, being grits, 433 00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:55,060 you know, having this grit. 434 00:27:55,060 --> 00:28:00,660 And so I think the biggest tournaments are won, especially when you have 435 00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:06,180 the atmosphere around you that you're feeling good, you're feeling sort of happy, 436 00:28:06,180 --> 00:28:10,940 you're feeling excited to play where nothing is actually bugging you. 437 00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:15,860 So those things, even though they don't you can't you can't see those. 438 00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:19,100 They are the huge, huge part of, you know, the tennis. 439 00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:21,500 Sounds like life as well. 440 00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:24,300 You can take a lot of lessons in tennis and apply that, you know, 441 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:25,500 to just life in general. 442 00:28:26,540 --> 00:28:27,580 Yeah, absolutely. 443 00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:31,420 I mean, you cannot sort of you cannot sort of differentiate. 444 00:28:31,420 --> 00:28:36,260 You feel that, OK, tennis is one thing, you know, life is another thing, you know. 445 00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:42,540 And then you can be, let's say, feeling unhappy, negative in your in your life. 446 00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:46,300 And you feel, OK, when I come to the court, everything is going to be great. 447 00:28:47,340 --> 00:28:49,340 You know, it doesn't go that way, unfortunately. 448 00:28:50,180 --> 00:28:51,180 Definitely. Yeah. 449 00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:55,380 Yeah, Martin, I've got let's see, we've got about six minutes left. 450 00:28:55,620 --> 00:28:59,420 I want to get to a couple of fan questions that I asked on my Instagram. 451 00:28:59,740 --> 00:29:02,660 All things Croatia for people who want to follow that. 452 00:29:02,660 --> 00:29:04,700 But I said, you know, what do you guys want to ask? 453 00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:08,460 Martin, I've got, you know, a couple of minutes to give questions. 454 00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:11,100 So here are some of those questions and I'll ask you those right now. 455 00:29:11,460 --> 00:29:14,420 But the first one is how often do you go to Medjugorje to the, 456 00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:17,860 you know, on the pilgrimage up the hill or to mass there? 457 00:29:17,860 --> 00:29:21,180 And have you ever met any of the people who saw the apparition, the Gospa? 458 00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:24,460 I go every year. 459 00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:27,580 I mean, when I can, you know, I'm obviously focused on the career. 460 00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:32,500 But, you know, I was just now during the summer in July. 461 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:34,580 I was there for seven, eight days. 462 00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:36,380 And I love it. 463 00:29:36,380 --> 00:29:38,380 You know, I love Medjugorje. I love the atmosphere. 464 00:29:38,380 --> 00:29:40,380 I love the people. I love the lifestyle. 465 00:29:40,380 --> 00:29:42,780 I love, you know, just being there. 466 00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:47,060 But, you know, for me, more than at this moment, as an athlete, 467 00:29:47,060 --> 00:29:50,700 more than seven days, it gets, you know, too, too easy. 468 00:29:52,140 --> 00:29:59,820 So but I've met Vicka, I've met Ivanka, I've met Mirjana Jakov. 469 00:30:00,820 --> 00:30:07,180 And that's that's about it from the from the, you know, people, 470 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:08,780 the apparitioners. 471 00:30:08,780 --> 00:30:11,260 And then, you know, it's a. 472 00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:16,820 Something special, you know, really, really special about it, 473 00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:20,620 even though obviously they all of them live their own life 474 00:30:21,140 --> 00:30:24,340 and have their own lives, you know, families, et cetera. 475 00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:28,580 You know, it's it's just, you know, a special feeling. 476 00:30:29,540 --> 00:30:34,500 I'm, you know, I know family of Vicka very well, 477 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,260 because my father is also 478 00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:41,740 the age of Vicka, and I think they possibly went to school together. 479 00:30:41,820 --> 00:30:45,100 You know, they, you know, they were living in Medjugorje at the time. 480 00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:50,820 And so, you know, I feel Vicka is really, really special with her own, 481 00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:54,700 you know, charisma, character, you know, the life she has. 482 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:57,180 And, you know, I really, I really love her. 483 00:30:57,940 --> 00:31:01,620 Yeah, that's definitely something special to to know them and be a part of that. 484 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:06,540 And yeah, I made the you know, I walk up when I can, when I go back there. 485 00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:07,900 But I've never done it barefoot. 486 00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:11,180 I know a lot of the older people will go up barefoot and in the summer, too, 487 00:31:11,180 --> 00:31:14,620 and the rocks are hot and I don't know how they can do it. 488 00:31:14,620 --> 00:31:15,940 I don't know how they can do that. 489 00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:17,580 That's a lot. 490 00:31:17,580 --> 00:31:21,020 But yeah, here's a here's a quick one for you. 491 00:31:21,020 --> 00:31:23,620 Which Croatian player has been your hardest opponent? 492 00:31:27,380 --> 00:31:32,340 I would say Ivan, Ivan Dodik. 493 00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:36,500 I mean, Ivan and Ljubic as well, because Ivan, I mean, 494 00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:40,460 we practiced like a million times together and he knows me so well. 495 00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:43,420 So, you know, when you when I was playing with him on the tour, 496 00:31:43,420 --> 00:31:45,740 he was always also a little bit funky. 497 00:31:45,740 --> 00:31:47,660 But yeah, I would say even. 498 00:31:47,660 --> 00:31:49,900 OK, here's kind of a funny one. 499 00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:54,620 But they wanted me to say that you seem too nice to be a top pro. 500 00:31:54,620 --> 00:31:58,380 What sort of brings out the darkness or the competition inside of you 501 00:31:58,380 --> 00:31:59,620 when you have to play? 502 00:32:02,980 --> 00:32:06,540 Yeah, it's it's interesting question, because I was also, you know, 503 00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:09,580 at the time, during, you know, some years, 504 00:32:09,580 --> 00:32:13,700 I was thinking about how to bring this a little bit of excitement 505 00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:16,660 into the game, you know, or like to be a little bit more pumped up. 506 00:32:16,660 --> 00:32:21,180 And then for a few years, I was like really pumped up, 507 00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:22,300 like, you know, big time. 508 00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:24,980 And then it's it's also not easy 509 00:32:25,940 --> 00:32:28,300 to control it when you are pumped up big time. 510 00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:31,660 Then also the negative emotions come up, you know. 511 00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:33,300 So you're going to be a red, red. 512 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:36,820 So you have to find some this cushion to to to feel good. 513 00:32:36,820 --> 00:32:41,580 But it all comes down to my own feeling. 514 00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:45,860 OK, playing, you know, big players playing, you know, some big challenge 515 00:32:47,460 --> 00:32:50,900 players, then obviously that brings a big competition. 516 00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,500 But I love I have to say I love the Davis Cup. 517 00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:57,940 You know, that's where I, you know, possibly played some of my best tennis 518 00:32:57,940 --> 00:33:01,500 in my in my life, because that brings, you know, the crowd, everything, 519 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:05,060 you know, the emotions, you know, it's just it's a special one. 520 00:33:05,060 --> 00:33:07,420 Well, that was actually the next question sort of, 521 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:10,340 which was where do you feel your most passionate fans are? 522 00:33:11,340 --> 00:33:12,500 In Davis Cup. 523 00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:15,180 And I, you know, like I never actually felt. 524 00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:20,660 That was like a burden on me during my career to play Davis Cup. 525 00:33:20,660 --> 00:33:22,980 I always felt it's a huge opportunity. 526 00:33:22,980 --> 00:33:26,820 OK, I have, you know, like 10,000 fans cheering for me. 527 00:33:26,820 --> 00:33:27,780 How good is that? 528 00:33:27,780 --> 00:33:30,420 You know, let me, you know, bring a little bit more fire. 529 00:33:30,420 --> 00:33:35,260 Let me use this, you know, energy to give me a little bit extra 530 00:33:35,260 --> 00:33:39,340 for my tournaments to feel, you know, to find this different feeling 531 00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:42,580 than what I have on these individual tournaments. 532 00:33:42,580 --> 00:33:46,620 And, you know, team atmosphere, you know, let's create something together. 533 00:33:46,620 --> 00:33:48,780 Let's create, you know, possibly a history. 534 00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:50,220 So, yeah, I loved it. 535 00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:53,460 Next one. What is your favorite food? 536 00:33:56,180 --> 00:33:58,940 Of course, I mean, it has to be OK. 537 00:33:58,940 --> 00:34:02,580 Janjetina, but even Janjetina, 538 00:34:02,580 --> 00:34:06,060 but even more is a teleča koljanica, 539 00:34:06,060 --> 00:34:10,260 veal shank with the potatoes and then the vegetables. 540 00:34:10,260 --> 00:34:14,020 I mean, like, more than the Janjetina. 541 00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:19,900 Oh, yes, yes, more, more, because for us, I mean, you know, in Hercegovina, 542 00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:24,500 especially Christmas, Easter, you know, they eat Janjetina when it's cold, 543 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:26,380 you know, like, you know, because of K. 544 00:34:26,380 --> 00:34:28,980 But so I don't like it as much. 545 00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:33,980 But then, you know, teleča koljanica, that's any day of the year. 546 00:34:33,980 --> 00:34:34,980 Yeah, right. 547 00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:41,220 When I was there this summer in July, I tried to go to Udovice. 548 00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:43,820 You know, that restaurant, is that Cheat Luke or Chaplina? 549 00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:45,140 I always get them mixed up. 550 00:34:45,140 --> 00:34:51,700 No, it's no, it's in towards most are towards most are there. 551 00:34:51,700 --> 00:34:52,700 Yeah. 552 00:34:52,700 --> 00:35:00,460 I think is it is it is it Krushchev or like a small, small, small town, small place? 553 00:35:00,460 --> 00:35:01,980 Maybe. Yeah, yeah. 554 00:35:01,980 --> 00:35:03,980 I forgot the name exactly. 555 00:35:03,980 --> 00:35:08,540 But that place is they have really good lamb there, the Janjetina, of course, is good. 556 00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:10,300 But it was closed when I went this summer. 557 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:11,780 They were doing renovations. 558 00:35:11,780 --> 00:35:15,380 So yeah, didn't get to go. 559 00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:17,420 We're talking about your favorite food. 560 00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:21,780 What about music? What type of music do you like to listen to? 561 00:35:21,780 --> 00:35:26,820 Depending on the mood, you know, it always is something different. 562 00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:29,820 You know, I'm I love acapellas. 563 00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:31,860 I love, you know, Croatian music. 564 00:35:31,860 --> 00:35:35,820 I love, you know, obviously, you know, international hits. 565 00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:45,540 I love, you know, sometimes when I'm when I need a little bit of, you know, just to get myself going, you know, ACDC always works well. 566 00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:50,140 You know, I'm I'm I don't have a genre that is OK. 567 00:35:50,140 --> 00:35:52,140 You know, I don't I don't like it. 568 00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:54,300 I mean, it's I like to hear anything. 569 00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:57,900 And as long as it's as long as it's good to hear. 570 00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:01,260 Yeah, yeah. ACDC is actually my favorite band of all time. 571 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:03,380 So I'm glad you said that. 572 00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:04,620 There you go. There you go. 573 00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:16,420 But there is something special about, you know, acapellas, you know, especially in Croatia with the with this tradition, you know, the songs, you know, they always sort of, you know, hit the spot. 574 00:36:16,420 --> 00:36:18,540 It's just I love those. 575 00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:23,020 Definitely. Yeah, yeah. Klapa or yes, there's some other time. 576 00:36:23,020 --> 00:36:26,140 Well, they're in Herzegovina, too, is what is a Ganga? 577 00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:29,940 Do you ever do you ever listen to that on Spotify? 578 00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:39,700 Actually, no, actually, no, no, I guess you probably can't find that on Spotify, only just, you know, in person with a couple of the old guys in the village. 579 00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:43,020 The special ones know they're not in Spotify. 580 00:36:43,020 --> 00:36:45,300 Exactly. Yeah, yeah. 581 00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:53,860 ACDC. OK, so what if you're at the gym and, you know, you're I don't know, maybe you're running on the treadmill and you're doing the last bit of the run or something. 582 00:36:53,860 --> 00:36:58,940 You're lifting really heavy. What song are you going to put on to try and motivate? 583 00:36:58,940 --> 00:37:06,700 I mean, I don't, you know, I lift the weight. I don't need the extra motivation. 584 00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:10,620 I just I just do it. It's it's plainly like this. 585 00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:19,780 But, you know, I put whatever I often can. You know, I put even some radio like even Narodny radio and then whatever antennas are grab. 586 00:37:19,780 --> 00:37:23,100 You know, I love those. And then they always do some some great mix. 587 00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:26,860 So, you know, it's they always find some good ones. 588 00:37:26,860 --> 00:37:30,700 Definitely. Yeah, I found a lot of good songs from the radio over there in Croatia. 589 00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:34,140 They play a lot of good ones. What about other than tennis, Martin? 590 00:37:34,140 --> 00:37:40,500 What other hobbies do you have, other sports that you like to play or just other things in general that you like doing? 591 00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:43,580 I'm following, obviously, football as much as I can. 592 00:37:43,580 --> 00:37:58,460 Wherever our Croatian guys are playing, as most of the people in the diaspora, you know, I also follow NBA, you know, as much as I can, obviously, not as a fantasy NBA player. 593 00:37:58,460 --> 00:38:08,180 I never played those. But, you know, I'm obviously trying to follow as much as I can, you know, Croatian sports. 594 00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:15,820 And, you know, when I played in the Olympics, you know, even first time and every other time, 595 00:38:15,820 --> 00:38:24,780 it's just special to get to know these people from, you know, different sports, from smaller sports where Olympics are, you know, everything. 596 00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:36,780 And so I try to follow them. You know, I'm even great friends with Valen Tosinkovic and then with also with Tinseric, good friends with, you know, a lot of guys. 597 00:38:36,780 --> 00:38:49,820 And then what also helped is, you know, organizing this games at Hervatska event for my foundation to get to know them, to feel them, you know, to be in person, you know, with them, to spend a day with them. 598 00:38:49,820 --> 00:38:53,220 And so it's I love I love those things, you know. 599 00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:59,380 Tell us a little bit about the foundation and, you know, what it's for and what you guys do. 600 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:03,460 You know, it's for kids. It's a plainly like this. 601 00:39:03,460 --> 00:39:11,820 On one side, we built, you know, sport playgrounds in schools in undeveloped regions in Croatia and areas. 602 00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:18,300 And then we built already five sport playgrounds in Croatia. 603 00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:26,060 And especially now, last few years, the costs of those have went like through the roof. 604 00:39:26,060 --> 00:39:34,540 Comparing to the first one we did in Tordinci, that's in Slavonia, you know, between Osijek and Vinkovci. 605 00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:42,620 Now, the last one is going to probably cost four times more, just to tell you the huge, huge difference. 606 00:39:42,620 --> 00:39:56,460 But anyway, you know, trying to in this Kemset Hrvatska event to raise the awareness of necessity, you know, to help young people in Croatia to bring athletes together, 607 00:39:56,460 --> 00:40:09,020 you know, to create something unique, to sort of promote sport, promote healthy living, especially at this time where, you know, everything is online, everything is on the phone. 608 00:40:09,020 --> 00:40:20,340 You know, let's, you know, go back 30 years in time and then, you know, be outside, be connected and just help our community. 609 00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:25,900 And on the other end, we do, you know, scholarship. 610 00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:33,340 We are giving scholarships to talented musicians and athletes in individual sports. 611 00:40:33,340 --> 00:40:43,860 But the application process is, I would say, unique because we don't pick the best athletes, the best musicians. 612 00:40:43,860 --> 00:40:54,380 We try to pick the ones that are good in school, actually, that are having really, really good grades in school to try to promote, obviously, a good education, 613 00:40:54,380 --> 00:41:01,900 to push the kids a little bit to, you know, to learn really well and to sort of be good and diligent in school. 614 00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:05,900 On the other side, we look at the results, but it's not the factor. 615 00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:16,740 We also look at the background, the family, you know, like the financial status, you know, if the let's say the child has possibly one parent, possibly no parents, 616 00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:26,100 then we give them like, you know, you know, advantage with that and trying to just, you know, create something like this. 617 00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:38,260 For example, our last two scholarship recipients are coming from huge families. So both of them are girls and both of them are musicians. 618 00:41:38,260 --> 00:41:46,700 Forget exactly which instrument they're playing, but one of them has, I think, 10 brothers and sisters. 619 00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:56,460 So there are 11 of them in a family. And then on the other side, there are six of them on the other girls, so five brothers and sisters. 620 00:41:56,460 --> 00:42:07,220 And so we try to, you know, find the kids that also send us through application, the motivational letter, what got them to, you know, be in music or sport, 621 00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:11,060 what drives them, what's, you know, difficulties, you know, things like that. 622 00:42:11,060 --> 00:42:20,580 And so you find through stories like that, you find the inspiration. And now six, seven years later, after, you know, starting the foundation, 623 00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:30,380 it's it's really grown into something that can, you know, be sustainable with the friends of the foundation, 624 00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:36,220 with, you know, people donating with sponsors, with these kind of events just now for the weekend. 625 00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:42,340 So yesterday and on so yesterday was Sunday and on a Saturday we had a small first actually, 626 00:42:42,340 --> 00:42:47,140 Marin Chilich Foundation Tennis Open for amateur tennis people. 627 00:42:47,140 --> 00:42:56,740 And our aim was actually to bring more business people that are in the offices to, you know, come to tennis to, you know, let's play together. 628 00:42:56,740 --> 00:43:05,500 Let's, you know, have a weekend together of tennis, you know, to play with me a little bit, you know, to play between each other and to raise funds 629 00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:10,620 with this kind of event for projects like scholarships, you know. 630 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:19,180 And so everything is pushed for kids. And, you know, in the beginning, 631 00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:26,540 I was also taking care of all the administration costs of the foundation, everything, you know, the salaries of the people working. 632 00:43:26,540 --> 00:43:30,580 But now, obviously, the foundation is on its feet and sustainable. 633 00:43:30,580 --> 00:43:38,780 But I would say that 98 percent of the funds go directly to straight, directly to kids. 634 00:43:38,780 --> 00:43:43,260 Wow, that's a very high percentage. Yeah, usually it's there's a lot of overhead and. 635 00:43:43,260 --> 00:43:50,980 Yeah, we have we have only one person that is employed and, you know, being in the administration, 636 00:43:50,980 --> 00:43:55,140 talking to parents, organizing, you know, doing basically everything. 637 00:43:55,140 --> 00:43:58,260 And then the rest is volunteers. 638 00:43:58,260 --> 00:44:01,820 Yeah, that's definitely that's an awesome thing that you're able to put on and run, Martin. 639 00:44:01,820 --> 00:44:08,860 And yeah, it's great to be able to sounds like, you know, you want to give kids the opportunity to have the childhood that you had as well. 640 00:44:08,860 --> 00:44:15,220 You know, the upbringing and you're talking about no phones and everyone outside and getting to play tennis and stuff like that. 641 00:44:15,220 --> 00:44:17,500 So that's yeah, that's very cool. 642 00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:20,140 It is it is what you said. It's about opportunity. 643 00:44:20,140 --> 00:44:29,820 You know, many of kids, unfortunately, around the world actually don't succeed not because not having a talent, not because, you know, not having, 644 00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:34,940 you know, discipline or, you know, hard work, etc., etc., etc. 645 00:44:34,940 --> 00:44:37,900 They don't succeed because of not having the opportunity. 646 00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:46,780 And so we are this extended arm, you know, through me, through just a little bit of inspiration and, you know, 647 00:44:46,780 --> 00:44:55,500 to give these kids a little bit of, you know, inspiration and happiness and excitement, you know, 648 00:44:55,500 --> 00:45:00,460 you know, in terms of money, this kind of scholarship doesn't change their life. 649 00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:07,660 You know, the scholarships are fifteen hundred euros and then but it just gives them this. 650 00:45:07,660 --> 00:45:13,220 OK, somebody recognized them, somebody saw them, somebody, you know, it's OK, it's life changing. 651 00:45:13,220 --> 00:45:17,100 And so this is I mean, I'm goosebumps now. 652 00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:21,220 So it's just it's just, you know, beautiful stories. 653 00:45:21,220 --> 00:45:28,340 Definitely. Yeah. I mean, it's like how your dad saw that in you and built the tennis court and supported your career and now look where you are. 654 00:45:28,340 --> 00:45:35,420 And maybe if that didn't happen or, you know, he said, you're not going to play tennis, then you wouldn't end up becoming a tennis player. 655 00:45:35,420 --> 00:45:41,140 Yeah, exactly. It's, you know, unfortunately, it comes down a lot to the financial backgrounds. 656 00:45:41,140 --> 00:45:46,540 And what I try to sort of promote when I speak with the scholarship recipients to the kids, 657 00:45:46,540 --> 00:45:55,180 you know, to not to be afraid to dream big, but, you know, to try to always give their best to try, you know, 658 00:45:55,180 --> 00:46:02,140 not to wait for somebody to push them, you know, for a coach to tell them, OK, you need to be better or to parents, you know, 659 00:46:02,140 --> 00:46:09,100 just to feel inside this passion and to to be day after day diligent and to give everything they have, 660 00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:15,780 the love to the passion they have. And, you know, great things are going to happen. 661 00:46:15,780 --> 00:46:25,180 That's awesome. Yeah. And I'll include links in the description so people who ever want to check out the organization can click on the link and check that out. 662 00:46:25,180 --> 00:46:31,380 Speaking of the future, what are your future plans and goals either in tennis or, you know, 663 00:46:31,380 --> 00:46:37,820 with the organization or just in general life, other things, what sort of goals do you have for yourself in the future? 664 00:46:37,820 --> 00:46:43,580 Simple, you know, just I would love to play, you know, two, three more years on the tennis tour. 665 00:46:43,580 --> 00:46:50,020 You know, we'll see what happens, how, you know, my health wise goes. 666 00:46:50,020 --> 00:46:56,300 The rest, you know, I would after, you know, try to give myself a little bit more time with the family. 667 00:46:56,300 --> 00:46:59,860 You know, I've been like, you know, it's everything is on schedule. 668 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:02,500 You know, I have a tournament now next week. 669 00:47:02,500 --> 00:47:13,380 OK, then, you know, after the after the season or hey, when I have to train and not, you know, it's I just want to feel, you know, be a little bit more comfortable, have as much time as necessary for my family, 670 00:47:13,380 --> 00:47:21,420 because now my wife, Christina, she is also helping so much around the foundation. 671 00:47:21,420 --> 00:47:32,060 And I would love as well that she pursues a little bit of her career because she now dedicated her own time to be with the boys, you know, with the family. 672 00:47:32,060 --> 00:47:35,180 So I would, you know, that's that's the aim. 673 00:47:35,180 --> 00:47:37,020 And then we'll see. 674 00:47:37,020 --> 00:47:42,860 Life will, you know, open some doors in tennis and I'll see how things turn up. 675 00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:45,980 But I would love to stay in Croatia. 676 00:47:45,980 --> 00:47:48,500 Yeah, definitely. Well, yeah, I know you've been traveling a lot. 677 00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:51,820 You were where were you just in China recently? 678 00:47:51,820 --> 00:47:55,100 Yes. Yeah. For that. Yes. 679 00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:58,660 Tournament. Yeah, I won this Hangzhou tournament. 680 00:47:58,660 --> 00:48:00,980 Then we were in Tokyo and then Shanghai. 681 00:48:00,980 --> 00:48:05,700 Yeah. Wow. So how many countries do you know how many different countries you've been to? 682 00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:08,300 No, but a lot, I'm sure. 683 00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:13,020 I mean, for us, it's a quite similar tour year after year after year. 684 00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:20,620 And then, like, after after, you know, 10, you just start to be, you know, like, who knows? 685 00:48:20,620 --> 00:48:22,980 I mean, what was happening here last year? 686 00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:26,260 Was it the year before the five years before Italy? 687 00:48:26,260 --> 00:48:28,740 You get mixed up. Definitely. Yeah. 688 00:48:28,740 --> 00:48:32,020 Well, because I was wondering that, too, because a lot of professional athletes, 689 00:48:32,020 --> 00:48:36,940 like you'll hear them talk and they, you know, remember in any sport, you know, like, oh, this game, 690 00:48:36,940 --> 00:48:40,500 you know, on this day, however many years ago, I remember this, this and this happened. 691 00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:46,620 Are you like that? Can you remember every point in each game and each set, basically? 692 00:48:46,620 --> 00:48:52,340 Not every, not every, but, you know, some, some, I mean, some are just in your mind. 693 00:48:52,340 --> 00:48:55,140 I don't know how, but why. 694 00:48:55,140 --> 00:49:00,940 And then some you forget completely, like if you ask me what happened, I don't know, in 20, whatever, 695 00:49:00,940 --> 00:49:09,140 I don't know, 12 in first six months of the season, I would have to be OK where I was. 696 00:49:09,140 --> 00:49:14,460 So, but, you know, generally, you know, you're quite good because you connect them through the results. 697 00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:18,020 OK, I was there, I played this guy, I left, you know, et cetera, et cetera. 698 00:49:18,020 --> 00:49:20,900 So it's a bit easier. That makes sense. Yeah. 699 00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:23,460 Well, Marijan, I want to thank you very much for coming on the podcast. 700 00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:27,260 I have just one last question here that I've asked. 701 00:49:27,260 --> 00:49:30,140 Basically everyone, you know, comes on the podcast at the end. 702 00:49:30,140 --> 00:49:36,420 But what to you makes Croatia or being Croatian special? 703 00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:40,980 What do I think? What makes it special to you? 704 00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:43,620 What the Croatians or the Croatia? 705 00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:47,780 Either either being Croatian or Croatia in general. 706 00:49:47,780 --> 00:49:56,660 Hmm. I mean, I would say it's a unique part of the world. 707 00:49:56,660 --> 00:50:09,420 And God gave us incredible piece of land and, you know, the opportunity to live, you know, a life of. 708 00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:17,220 You know, sort of good life, even though the country was through rough times, many times. 709 00:50:17,220 --> 00:50:22,620 But at this modern time, I think it's a really beautiful one. 710 00:50:22,620 --> 00:50:28,500 And it's on us to create it, even better one to for generations to come. 711 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:42,940 And on the Croatians, I think we have this, I think, installed in us, like this feeling like through generations, 712 00:50:42,940 --> 00:50:52,020 like a natural genetic feeling of being really being like sort of trying to get through difficult times. 713 00:50:52,020 --> 00:50:57,420 And because I don't think it was coming through the history of science, it was coming. 714 00:50:57,420 --> 00:51:01,540 Nothing was coming easy. And so it was a difficult time. 715 00:51:01,540 --> 00:51:10,900 Even, you know, our parents, our grandparents, you know, going to Germany, to Australia, to the US, migrating and finding a living. 716 00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:22,820 And so I think overall we have this something inside of us that we need to cherish and to also use when we are having our own passions. 717 00:51:22,820 --> 00:51:30,300 You know, like what we discussed for, you know, individual students or scholarships, like, you know, 718 00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:37,380 when you give your such a such a great passion into something, when you give all yourself into it, you know, 719 00:51:37,380 --> 00:51:43,940 I believe that, you know, you're going to have something amazing happening to you. 720 00:51:43,940 --> 00:51:48,860 That's a great answer. Yeah. And you I mean, you talk about, you know, making it's on us now, you know, 721 00:51:48,860 --> 00:51:53,820 for the next generation and to make Croatia better and and keep it beautiful and everything like that. 722 00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:59,100 I think you're definitely doing your part with the organization and you seem like a great guy. 723 00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,180 And so I think that's a great answer, Martin. 724 00:52:02,180 --> 00:52:07,940 So I want to thank you very much again for coming on the podcast, bearing with the technical difficulties that we had. 725 00:52:07,940 --> 00:52:13,940 But yeah, this has been a really fun episode. Thanks. Thanks. 726 00:52:13,940 --> 00:52:20,580 Yes. Or me coming to California, who knows, might be next year in Indian Wells. 727 00:52:20,580 --> 00:52:24,980 I'll see you there. Come come and visit. Yeah. Indian Wells, not too far away. 728 00:52:24,980 --> 00:52:32,540 That'd be awesome. And bring, I don't know, bring 20 Croatians. I mean, let's let's get the cheering up. 729 00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:38,340 20, I'll bring 200. What do you mean? Exactly. Exactly. I don't know. I mean, it's on you. 730 00:52:38,340 --> 00:52:42,500 All right. All right. Agreed then. Doga Vorenova will do that. 731 00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:51,580 Absolutely. Absolutely. Take care. Starm call the best to everyone and see you guys somewhere around the world. 732 00:52:51,580 --> 00:52:57,940 Definitely. Thank you, Martin. Take care. Cheers.