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Well, welcome back everyone to the All Things Croatia podcast.

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I'm here with Jay Webb, known as Jay Webby.

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He's an Australian competitive eater with Croatian roots.

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He's ranked number one in Australia and number five in the world.

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As you can see his food challenges on social media with almost 2 million TikTok followers

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and almost 100,000 Instagram followers.

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Really awesome to have him here with us today.

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James, thanks for coming on the podcast.

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Thank you for having me.

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I appreciate it.

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Of course.

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Yeah.

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Super excited.

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And I know I was just talking to you before we started recording.

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You just did another challenge today and definitely want to get in to the competitive eating stuff

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and how that came about and what that consists of.

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But first of all, if you can sort of introduce yourself, where you're from and then talk

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a little bit about your Croatian heritage.

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Okay.

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So I'm James.

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Online people know me as Jay Webby or Jay Webby Can Eat.

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I do some crazy, pretty ridiculous food challenges.

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I'm from Australia.

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My mother is Croatian.

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My dad, my father's actually from England, but my dad never really had family.

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So I grew up only knowing my Croatian side of the family, my baba, my daughter, you know,

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cousins, things like this.

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So actually my, my, my baba is still alive.

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She speaks very broken English.

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So to communicate with her, you have to at least understand Croatian for the most part.

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You know, she's a look, she's getting on.

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She's almost 90.

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So like it's half English, half Croatian at the best of times, you know.

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So I've always grown up, you know what, around my Croatian side of my family, my mom, my

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uncle, they're fluent.

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It's kind of like funny story.

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Like when my mom doesn't want my dad to know something or whatever, she kind of speaks

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Croatian, you know, like just kind of like family jokes and stuff like that.

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But yeah, I'm from Sydney, Australia and I have a Croatian mom and she's master chef,

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man.

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I was very blessed growing up.

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I had a baba and a mom that man, they can cook a house fire.

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So like that's where it all started for me.

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I believe it, man.

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Yeah.

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Same for me as well.

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And that's awesome that your baba is still alive and you're still able to, you know,

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speak with her.

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You mentioned, you know, understanding Croatian.

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Is that sort of what your Croatian is at that you're a little bit better at understanding

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than speaking or what?

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Yeah, look, so when I was younger, I think from the ages when I was small until I was

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about five or six, we actually kind of all lived together as a family.

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So I was fluent.

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When my mother, I've got a little brother, not so little anymore, but like my younger

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brother is three years younger than me.

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When he was being born, I spent a lot of time with my grandparents and I'll go visit my

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mom in the hospital and I'll be speaking Croatian to her.

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I think as I got older, I lost confidence.

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Obviously English being my first language, I have like an Aussie accent or a Twain, however

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you want to call it.

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So like, you know, my family wouldn't make fun of me, but you know, they'll kind of pick

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holes in like the accent.

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And I think as I got older, I just spoke it less.

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Maybe it was a confidence thing.

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Obviously where I'm from in Sydney, predominantly like I went to like a white boy school.

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So there was no other Croatians or many other ethnics anyway.

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So like, I suppose I kind of just lost practice, but it's funny.

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Like when I've got to do it, I can do it.

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Like, you know, my, my Bubba is, she's in a nursing home.

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She's not well, she's pretty old.

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She's, you know, basically paralyzed.

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So when we go speak to her and you know, I guess when they get to that age, that can

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be a bit, you know, they get hysterical and you know, to calm her down, you've got to

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understand what she wants.

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And you know, one minute she's speaking English, next minute it's like the fastest Croatian

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you could understand.

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So I guess when it's like life is of the light, I could do it.

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But I suppose my brain just opts for English every single time.

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You know what I mean?

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Well, yeah, that makes sense.

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I mean, I've seen a lot of like Croatian diaspora and a lot of other countries abroad, you know,

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Australia, Canada, U.S. for the English speaking countries, at least just because that's what

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It's sort of the same way, you know, that it's and everyone else speaks English and

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you want to fit in and you know, you're speaking English.

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So it's, it's different.

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You know, I've like, I always was the same way.

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Like I grew up, you know, Croatian, Croatian family and you know, being proud of that,

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but like never grew up speaking the language and it only was like the last maybe five,

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six years that I really like wanted to make a conscious effort to like learn it.

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And so I actually ended up going to Croatia and living there a couple of years in Zagreb

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and trying to learn the language and stuff, which was cool.

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But yeah, definitely it takes effort.

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I mean, it's a tough language to learn.

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And they speak so fast.

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What part were your, so is your Baba that moved over?

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So my Baba did have moved.

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They escaped during the war a long, long time ago, but they lived in Zagreb.

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And they made their way across a few refugee camps, literally arriving to Australia on

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the boat.

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So they were pretty well traveled, but yeah, they were from Zagreb.

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Have you ever been back there?

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I never have.

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So I actually, I was, had a trip planned and that's when COVID kind of, and I always planned

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to go back, but during COVID is when this competitive eating thing started and took

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a massive side track.

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Well yeah, I know Australia was real strict too.

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You guys were basically, you couldn't leave the country for a couple of years.

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We were locked inside for a long, long time and you kind of just did what you had to do

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to kind of keep yourself occupied and insane, I guess.

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Well, you mentioned that's how it started.

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I didn't realize it started only that recently.

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How did you like, how did you get into competitive eating?

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My first ever food challenge was actually the 3rd of May, 2021 and that was about probably

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a month before the whole COVID craziness.

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But my wife, so I don't drink alcohol.

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That's a personal preference.

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Just I never found alcohol enjoyable.

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My wife wanted to go to a winery about three hours from where we live in Sydney.

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So to bribe me to go, she planned like a day trip of eating.

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So we went to this pub and then the fudge factory, then the cheese factory, and then

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we'll go to the winery.

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So I get what I want and then she gets what she wants.

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But we got to the pub and it was a very white Australian pub in a small country town and

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they had a big burger.

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And I was kind of making jokes like, oh, that's cool, whatever.

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And the owner was like, no, that's Australia's biggest burger.

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No one's ever going to eat it.

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And I'm the kind of guy, don't tell me I can't do something like, I'm going to at least try.

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My wife just looks at me and she's just like, no.

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By the way, I'm the only ethnic, my wife, my wife is Australian.

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I'm the only ethnic in this white Australian little town.

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It's like one street long.

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And then I'm like, yo, I'm going to eat this burger.

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My wife's just like, oh no.

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Anyway, I ate the burger.

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Australia's biggest burger.

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I won the prize money.

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So every time someone failed, the owner would chuck 10 bucks in the piggy bank.

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60 people failed.

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60, 600 bucks prize money.

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I'm like, sweet.

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So I took the prize money.

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I took a photo with the owner.

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I went and spent like 300 of that money on fudge.

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I went to the fudge factory.

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Then we went to the whiterie and I paid for the white tour and whatever else.

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Thought nothing of it.

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But in the meantime, the news that circulated of man from Western city conquered Australia's

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biggest burger and whatnot.

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By the next day I was all over the news.

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And funnily enough, my bubba, who doesn't really understand much English, saw me on

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the morning news and she rang my mum.

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And she's like, what's Jamie done?

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Is he in trouble?

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Like he's on the news.

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My mum's ringing me.

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It's like 730 in the morning on a Sunday.

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I'm like, mum, what's wrong?

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She's like, bubba said you're on the news.

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What have you done?

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I'm like, man, I'm in bed.

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Like, what do you mean?

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Anyway, turn the TV on.

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Lo and behold, man from Western city has conquered Australia's biggest burger.

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I'm like, that's friggin awesome.

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So much cool.

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My friends were texting me.

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I'm like, this is awesome.

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Again, but I thought nothing of it.

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I'm like, yeah, cool.

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Five minutes of fame.

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That's cool.

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The next day, my phone was blowing up radio, newspaper.

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I didn't know newspaper still existed.

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Magazines, you know, podcasts, all this stuff.

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And I was getting messages from other competitive eaters and they're like, hey man, like you're

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really good at this.

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We want to meet you.

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And I wrote right back.

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What the hell is this and who the hell is we?

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And what are you talking about?

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Anyway, there's like a secret society.

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I wear it on my shirt.

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Competitive Eating Australia in Australia, you know, food influences, competitive eaters.

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There's a whole league.

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They have a secret Facebook group.

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I've been invited to this secret Facebook group and they're talking about me because

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a newspaper article got released and whatever.

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And I was not really on social media.

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My Instagram, I probably had 10 followers, two photos, my sneaker collection and a half

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naked gym selfie.

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Like that would have been it.

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And I didn't know this, but one of the guys from my gym, you know, you see people at the

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gym, you kind of give them the nod, like, you know, you know each other, but you don't

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know each other.

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Turns out he was the second best competitive eater in the country and one of Australia's

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biggest food influences with like half a million followers.

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Because I wasn't in social media, I had no idea.

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I knew him as the guy from the gym that wore the, he wore hamburger socks, like novelty

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hamburger socks.

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That's all I knew him by.

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We'd give each other the nod.

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Anyway, so they're like talking about this article.

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There's like 150 comments on this article.

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I'm like, well, it's me.

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It's kind of cool.

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And this guy, Jesse, he's like, I know this guy.

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He goes to my gym.

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Anyway, comes up to me at the gym.

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He's like, dude, like you're a wet bed.

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Like we want to meet you.

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We want to come and like do challenges with you and whatever else.

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I'm like, I've got no idea what you're talking about.

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So this was on a Tuesday.

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He said, listen, on Thursday, there's a burger contest.

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We're all going to be there.

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I'm like, who the hell's we?

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Anyway, I'm like, I'll come.

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I love burgers.

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Turned up to this burger contest.

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It was about 30 minutes from my work, my day job.

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Went to this burger contest.

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And by the way, I had never filmed content before, never seen a tripod, let alone a microphone

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or a ring light or whatever.

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Anyway, so this like, I walked into the restaurant.

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I was a little bit early.

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This entourage of people came in, cameras, phones, tripods, you name it.

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And I'm just kind of sitting there.

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They're like, Hey, James, nice to meet you.

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And I'm like, how the hell do you know who I am?

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Anyway, the 10 of us burger contest, we all kind of lined up.

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The food comes out.

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I'm like, sweet.

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I'm hungry.

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They're like, no, no, don't touch anything.

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We've got to take photos and do introductions.

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And like, do you mind if you jump in my intro and all this stuff?

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I'm like, what?

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I'm like, all right, whatever.

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Anyway, contest starts.

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I wiped the floor.

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To this day, my record still stands a minute 59 for a one kilo burger, one kilo fries.

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The close guide to me finished in six minutes.

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Right?

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And these were all rag pro eaters in Australia.

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Right?

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So after this contest, we kind of hung around at the restaurant.

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Again, I've got my prize money.

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I was like, this is kind of cool.

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They kind of sat me down like interrogation style.

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I like wanted me and they're like, listen, dude, you're really good at this.

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You need to start making videos and do challenges.

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I'm like, what?

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I'm like, okay, sure.

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They wrote me a list.

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And at the time I went home and I'm like, they're having a laugh.

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Like this is bullshit.

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Anyway.

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So every day for two weeks, I went and did a food challenge on the list and I just knocked

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them off one by one.

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Right?

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And like I said to you, I wasn't really on social media.

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So I never posted anything or anything.

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Right?

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Anyway, about two weeks later, I commented on a Facebook group.

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I'm like, Hey guys, like that was pretty far.

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Like I've done all the challenges.

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Like, is there any more?

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And one of the guys pipes up and goes, you're a liar.

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I'm like, wait, what?

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I didn't know, but in the YouTube world, people like edit and cut and shot videos and cheat.

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Right?

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So it looked like they eat massive food, but they don't actually eat it.

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Right?

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So I'm like, what are you talking about?

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So it turns out I ate this pizza challenge.

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It's very famous in Sydney where we live.

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It's 27 inches by 27 inches square.

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Three people, 30 minutes to eat it.

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I did it by myself with like five seconds to spare.

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Right?

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And everyone's like, that's bullshit.

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You didn't do it.

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I'm like, what?

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Anyway, me being me, don't call me a liar.

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So the next day I went back to that pizza shop, ordered the same pizza and I got my

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phone.

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I had a, I had one of those Samsung flip phones and I flipped it like halfway up and lent

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it against the napkin holder on selfie mode.

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Right?

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I had no idea.

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Anyway, I ate the pizza this time in like 27 minutes.

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And then me being the fool, not knowing anything, I tried to upload this 27 minute video to

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Facebook.

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It took three days.

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It took three days.

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But I did it to prove a point to these guys in the group.

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And they're like, Oh my God, like what the hell?

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Anyway, by this time I kind of got in chatting to a couple of the lads in Sydney and we kind

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of became friends and whatever.

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And Scotty, who's actually my best friend now, one of my closest buddies, right?

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He's like, dude, you got to learn how to edit.

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Like you don't post a 27 minute long video.

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I'm like, man, I literally had to Google how to upload it.

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I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

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Anyway, so he's like, dude, just keep making videos, man.

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Like shit's going to happen for you.

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I'm like, dude, I got work to do.

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Like I've got a day job, right?

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Kind of left it at that.

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And then COVID happened.

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So you know, it was actually a Saturday.

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Funnily enough, I got invited to another burger contest and it was a Saturday afternoon.

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But in Australia, what happened was there was like a news bulletin and it was across

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like like we're just driving in the car and the radio like cuts out.

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It's the government saying it's locked down like COVID, you know, the apocalypse is coming.

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Everyone go home, right?

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So we kind of turned the car around and just went home and we literally couldn't leave

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our houses like from that news bulletin, right?

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So I was working from home like on Zoom and then I was bored as hell.

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And you know, it was, it was a crap time for everyone, right?

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So my wife is like, you want to make some TikTok videos?

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Like as a joke?

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I'm like, okay.

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And because at the time, so I used to be into bodybuilding, so I was jacked as hell, right?

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I was ripped.

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I was in good shape and it was summertime.

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So I was, I love to cook.

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I was cooking dinner at home.

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And as a joke, I had an apron on with no shirt on, right?

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So my wife's like filming me with this apron or whatever else.

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And the videos kind of started picking up and I started doing cooking videos.

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I started doing eating videos like home, like living room challenges and just dumb stuff

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like that, right?

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Before you know it, TikTok is like skyrocketing.

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I'm getting messages from like random restaurants saying, can we send you food and you give

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us a shout out and all this stuff.

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I'm like, okay.

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And I'm throughout lockdown, I just made friends with a few other competitive videos.

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We started doing like live streams, you know, we'd get through the eats McDonald's and like

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smash a Big Mac as fast as we can, like against each other.

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Me and Scotty did some dumb shit.

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Like we got like a box of like sour warheads and see how many we could eat in half an hour.

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Just like stupid stuff, right?

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Just to pass the time.

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And then I never forget this.

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So in Australia, it was like the 1st of June, right?

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And the government announced on the 10th of June, it's freedom day.

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Everyone go back to work.

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Everyone go back to life.

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And it was freedom day.

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Like everything was suddenly normal, right?

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I'm like mad back to work, right?

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I had, I'll promise you every restaurant in Sydney messaging me, trying to book me in

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for a food challenge at their restaurant.

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Wow.

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And I'm like, is this real life?

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Anyway, so I kind of went along with a few of them and I went to, there was a local Lebanese

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restaurant called Two Brothers.

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Obviously it's owned by Two Brothers, right?

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And they invited me down.

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It was a Friday night.

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They're like, bring your wife.

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We've got belly dancing.

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We've got this, we've got that.

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We'll give you a banquet.

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I'm like, okay, cool.

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Friday night, first week back at work.

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Went and got a banquet, had a mad time.

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Anyway, me being me, like we ate, like obviously we ordered a banquet for two.

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They definitely didn't give us a banquet for two.

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They gave us the whole farm.

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It was huge.

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And I went to pay the bill.

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My wife had a glass of wine.

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I went to go pay the bill, as you do.

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And the two brothers were at the counter and I'm giving my card, my debit card, and they're

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kind of looking at each other like, what the?

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And the youngest sister kind of pushed them out of the way and hands me this envelope.

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And I'm like, the fuck?

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And she goes, this is for you.

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I'm like, seriously?

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They're like, yeah, man.

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I'm like, okay.

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So out of pure reflex, I took the envelope and said thank you.

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I turned around, bolted.

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I walked straight past my wife.

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I leapt at the table and women sat outside of the restaurant on a bench.

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And she's like, what are you doing, you idiot?

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What's wrong with you?

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And I feel like shaking.

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This envelope has money in it, like cash money.

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And I'm like, babe, I don't know what just happened, but I went to go pay the bill and

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they gave me this.

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She's like, you got to call Scott.

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So Scott is the guy I'm close with and we kind of got talking.

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And he pretty much said to me like months ago, your life's going to change, right?

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I'm like, Scott, explain to me the whole story.

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He started laughing.

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I said, what are you laughing at?

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I need help.

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Like what the hell?

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He's like, I told you, your life is going to change.

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He's like, listen to me now.

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He's like, this is what you're going to do.

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He's like, tomorrow you're going to open up a business bank account.

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You're going to buy a good camera.

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You're going to make up a logo and get some t-shirts printed.

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I'm like, okay.

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He's like, no, no, this time you're going to listen to me.

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Right?

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So my wife went home that night and designed my logo.

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She's pretty creative.

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She got some t-shirts printed for me.

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I went and made a business and did all this.

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Started making videos.

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My wife learned how to edit, like legitimately learned how to edit.

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She's very clever.

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And within four weeks, I was making more money from food challenges, like skipping out on

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my lunch break, doing food challenges and dinners and whatever than my full-time wages.

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Right?

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Wow.

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And then I did a contest in Australia, like a competitive eating Australia, like a sanctioned

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contest with like all around, like from eaters from all around Australia.

441
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Right?

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And I won and I broke the Australian record.

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And then the Americans, the major league eating contacted me.

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Right?

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And, you know, Americans being Americans, they're kind of like, no Australian has ever

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had the courage to compete with us.

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Blah, blah, blah, blah.

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My wife's like, oh shit.

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Right?

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I'm like, we're going to America.

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Right?

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Anyway, booked flights, got accepted into the contest, everything.

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Went to work the next day to my boss.

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I'm like, hey boss, I need a week off.

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I'm going to America.

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He's like, why?

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I'm going to go compete.

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He's like, no, I'm like, no.

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He's like, I'm not giving you time off.

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I walked out of the office.

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I called my wife and my babe, like, we can't go.

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She's like, what do you mean we can't go?

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I'm like, I'm not getting any holidays.

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She goes, just quit.

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Like, what do you mean just quit?

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She's like, well, just quit.

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Because she's like, you're good at what you do, as if you can't get another job.

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She's like, what's the worst that can happen?

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You come back from America and you've got to go find another job.

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I'm like, okay.

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I walked back into his office.

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I'm like, I quit.

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In the meantime, she typed up my resignation letter.

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I'm like, why?

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He's like, you'll be back.

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All right.

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We ended up staying in America for four weeks because we had nothing else to do.

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Right?

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I left America with the equivalent of a month's wages.

480
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Wow.

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I left Australia, I left with a professional eating contract with the MLE.

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I came second and I came fifth in two contests.

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And I'm the first Australian to ever sign an MLE contract.

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And from the moment I touched down back into Australia, my life changed forever.

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Wow.

486
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That is nuts, man.

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That's a crazy.

488
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So you went from- I went from working, I worked for UFC.

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You know the brand, like the Fight brand?

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We opened up like 23 franchises in Australia.

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I was in corporate.

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I have an economics degree.

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Like there's a brain in here somewhere.

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But now I eat food in front of a camera and three years later, this is my third year now,

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about to renew my contract with the MLE.

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I'm ranked number five in the world.

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I've got six world records.

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I've got almost 2 million followers.

499
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,760
It's crazy, man.

500
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,760
Yeah.

501
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,760
That must feel surreal, man.

502
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,680
I feel like that's such a quick turnaround too, all within three years.

503
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,680
Yeah.

504
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,640
So look, it's crazy.

505
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,640
Number one, mental.

506
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:48,080
If you told me ever that I'm going to be making food videos or editing videos or social media

507
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,000
for a living, I would have laughed in your face.

508
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,920
I went to college for seven years.

509
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,920
I'm like, nah.

510
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:59,280
If you told me I could live a life making food videos and my wife sold her business,

511
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,040
she's a mom now, raises a little one.

512
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,360
Doesn't work.

513
00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:08,520
We travel the world eating food, making videos, doing food contests.

514
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,040
I would have laughed in your face.

515
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,040
Laughed.

516
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,560
And then if you would have told me I'm going to be ranked number five in the world and

517
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,320
have world records, what?

518
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,160
There's world records for eating?

519
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,080
What are you talking about?

520
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,480
But look, I am somehow, I'm really good at this.

521
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,560
And now look, it's like anything.

522
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,400
You go to the gym, you lift weights, you want bigger muscles, you want to get stronger.

523
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,000
Now I'm just learning how to eat, eating pasta, eating better technique, eating more, you

524
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,120
know, things like this.

525
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,440
And it's a sport.

526
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,680
So not only in America and Australia, I'm being flown to Hungary in August.

527
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,720
I'm going to be the first foreigner to compete in the professional Hungarian eating league.

528
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:47,780
Wow.

529
00:22:47,780 --> 00:22:48,920
So it's everywhere.

530
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,100
In Japan, it's massive.

531
00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:54,080
In the middle East, I went to Turkey.

532
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,040
Man, Turkey and the UAE.

533
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,040
Crazy.

534
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,840
So eating my way around the world.

535
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,840
Yeah.

536
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,840
So how many countries have you counted that you've traveled to eat so far?

537
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,840
So I've smashed Australia.

538
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,840
I've been to Turkey.

539
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,840
I've been to the UAE and America.

540
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,720
At the end of this year, August, I'm going to go to Germany and Hungary.

541
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,280
And then next year I want to go to Japan and the UK.

542
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,440
So it's awesome.

543
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:29,280
But to be honest, I last year, so 2023, I spent nine months in America, one month in

544
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,240
the UAE, one month in Turkey.

545
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,720
I was only home in Australia for less than one month.

546
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,840
This year I've only been home for like, so in my house, I've been home for three days.

547
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:40,840
Oh my God.

548
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,680
So like I'm always touring.

549
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,160
I'm always being flown somewhere, eating, doing crazy stuff.

550
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,240
I go home from, I'm in America now.

551
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,960
I get home in August, I'm home for two days.

552
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,400
And that's only to repack my bag because in Germany it's going to be freezing.

553
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,440
So I need to go home and get rid of my singlets and pack some t-shirts and hoodies and stuff.

554
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,440
Right?

555
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,000
I'm only going home literally to see my family, see my mom, my barber and staff, my wife,

556
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,280
obviously, and pack my bag and bounce.

557
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,280
Wow.

558
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,680
So that's a lot of work too then that's got to be draining.

559
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,560
I mean, both mentally and physically as well.

560
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:21,460
It is a lot, but look, what I get to call work, I'll never complain.

561
00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:26,240
Like the worst thing about my job, I haven't got a pee in an aeroplane toilet.

562
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,520
Like that's the hardest thing about my job.

563
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,640
There's people driving trucks, working in factories on job sites, you know, in there

564
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,800
working in the weather, the rain, the heat, the snow, you know, whatever.

565
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,720
I'm in restaurants, I'm at food trucks.

566
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,800
I get to travel, meet people, eat food.

567
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,160
And I'm like a walking street directory.

568
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,840
You tell me if I've been to that city, I know exactly where to eat.

569
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,040
Like it's crazy.

570
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,040
It's awesome.

571
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,040
Yeah.

572
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,040
Well, yeah, definitely life could get a lot worse.

573
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,040
That's for sure.

574
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,800
You're, I mean, you're definitely blessed to be able to do what you're doing.

575
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,040
You mentioned earlier, the training.

576
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,920
I wanted to ask, like, how does that, what does the training look like for competitive

577
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,840
eating and what do you do specifically?

578
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,240
I guess there's a couple of aspects to it.

579
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,360
Um, look, first and foremost, you've got to be fit.

580
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:14,120
So if you look at the top 10 in the world, we've all come from some kind of sporting

581
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:15,120
background.

582
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:20,500
Uh, out of the top 10, there's an ex college basketballer.

583
00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:23,880
There's two pro current pro bodybuilders.

584
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,040
There's an ex pro powerlifter and ex.

585
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,920
So one of the, one of the, one of the ladies, she was a swimmer.

586
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,720
She quit swimming when she just missed out on the Olympics.

587
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,360
So I don't know what that makes you in America, but I'm sure college swimmer, something elite,

588
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:41,360
right?

589
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:45,120
Um, the best eater in the world used to run marathon, like just run like marathon style

590
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:46,120
running.

591
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:47,120
Crazy.

592
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,540
So we've all got a kind of discipline.

593
00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:56,120
We have to go to the gym, you know, um, look contest are normally in really random places.

594
00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:59,640
So we kind of stay in the same hotels or the similar area.

595
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,640
Right?

596
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,880
So the day before we all see each other at the gym, we're all trying to keep fit.

597
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,260
That's one aspect to it.

598
00:26:07,260 --> 00:26:08,260
You've got to be fit.

599
00:26:08,260 --> 00:26:14,600
Um, the second aspect you've got to, okay, let's take, uh, the food for example.

600
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,160
So technique training is very important.

601
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,280
You know, like a chicken wing contest.

602
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,120
You've only got eight minutes to eat as much chicken as you can.

603
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,080
So you got to learn how to strip the chicken off the bones really quick.

604
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,160
Or, you know, for example, let's take hot dogs, the biggest event of the year.

605
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,400
You got to learn to separate the hot dog, eat the hot dog while you're dunking the bun.

606
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,800
You know, you got to practice your technique.

607
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,800
That's very important.

608
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,200
And the third aspect is your capacity.

609
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,160
You've got to be able to fit the amount of food.

610
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,360
Like take my world records, 13 and a half pounds of fudge in eight minutes.

611
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,360
It's a lot of frigging fudge man.

612
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,640
Like one and a half pounds is nothing to be sneezed at, but you've got to have that space

613
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,920
in your belly to be able to do that.

614
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,840
So stretching your stomach is very important.

615
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,520
You know, I'm very, look, you Americans are blessed man.

616
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,520
Buffets, all these buffets for like 20 bucks.

617
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,520
You go and smash food.

618
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,200
Then you know, leading into a contest, like let's say the contest is a Saturday, Tuesday,

619
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,880
Wednesday, Thursday, I'm at a buffet all like until I can't move.

620
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,720
Like I'm talking like borderline legitimately passing out.

621
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,720
Right.

622
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,200
Food coma.

623
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,040
And then Friday you don't eat, you just hydrate.

624
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:26,920
So then you kind of let your body relax and obviously pass through.

625
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,080
And then Saturday you're starving as anything ready to chew your armor at the contest.

626
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,080
Jeez.

627
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,760
So you're not starving yourself for like a week before you're doing heavy training and

628
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,480
then only just one day before the competition, not eating.

629
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,480
Yeah.

630
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,840
I know some of the boys they'll do two, like two days.

631
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,280
Now, two days without food.

632
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,520
I'll kill someone like, like hang on man.

633
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,600
Like I'll kill someone.

634
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,880
Now do you think that that's like a, it's like a talent that you're born with or you

635
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,880
just have inherently?

636
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,560
Cause even before you started training, you know, you were crushing these challenges and

637
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,320
then of course, you know, you're getting better with the training and stuff.

638
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,760
Or do you think that's something like you can like take me for an example, just, you

639
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,440
know, normal eater, normal guy.

640
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,680
Like would I be able to train myself to do what you do?

641
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:17,840
Look, I think there's an element of natural ability.

642
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,000
Look, I was a fat kid growing up.

643
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:26,320
Like I mentioned, I had a mom and a bubba that their food ridiculous, you know, at any

644
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,520
point in anyone's house in my family, I could go to the fridge and make myself a full-blown

645
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,520
meal of leftovers.

646
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,240
Like, like I had man boobs, like I had boobs bigger than people's heads as a kid.

647
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,240
Right?

648
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,000
So I believe food was ingrained into me from a young age.

649
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,440
You know, I was exposed to food, good food.

650
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,440
And you know what it's like, you go to Bubba's house.

651
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,040
If you're not eating, you're sick, you know, bread, have this, have that, you know?

652
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,800
So I believe I was a big eater from a young age.

653
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,520
I was really into my soccer.

654
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,880
So I used to eat big after soccer.

655
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:58,880
Right.

656
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,500
And then into bodybuilding again, you eat big.

657
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:08,520
So I always was a relatively big eater, but I never measured myself and be like, how much

658
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,360
do I eat versus how much you eat?

659
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,200
I never really thought to do that.

660
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,200
Right.

661
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,640
And then it's like anything.

662
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,840
Me I don't, I'll be honest with you.

663
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,840
Like I don't have any hobbies.

664
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,080
Like when I quit soccer, I took up the gym.

665
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,440
Then all I did was go to the gym.

666
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,400
Like I don't really have, you know, people have like 10 hobbies.

667
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,260
No, I do one thing.

668
00:29:28,260 --> 00:29:29,260
Now eating is my thing.

669
00:29:29,260 --> 00:29:31,900
I'm like, all right, how do I be elite at eating?

670
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:35,040
You know, like when I was in the gym, I'm like, how do I get shredded?

671
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,840
When I was playing soccer, I was like, how do I be the best?

672
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,560
You know, now I'm just like, I want to be the best eater.

673
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,860
So now I train to eat.

674
00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:48,180
So I probably had a decent base, but now with training on top of that base, like it's crazy.

675
00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:52,560
And you got to be a bit crazy up here.

676
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,040
You could trade to be a competitive eater, but you know what?

677
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,720
Competitive eating is like boxing.

678
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,720
Okay.

679
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,160
A boxer and elite athlete.

680
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:07,680
Elite as hell, disciplined as hell, loves the sport, trains the house down, puts their

681
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,420
body through hell.

682
00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:12,200
But on game day, they're going to get punched in the face, right?

683
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,200
It's inevitable.

684
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,200
It's a part of boxing.

685
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,200
You're going to get punched in the face.

686
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,280
Now let me tell you, eating 13 and a half pound of fudge in eight minutes is like being

687
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,640
punched in the face.

688
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,640
Right?

689
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:28,040
So up here, you're not all, we're not crazy, but we're like, it's for punishment.

690
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,040
You know what I mean?

691
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,400
Like we just love punishment.

692
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,360
Like we want to just push our body to its limits in weird ways.

693
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,360
Right?

694
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,760
I feel like you could practice to do it, but it's like, how much are you willing to go

695
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,760
up here?

696
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,760
You know, like I could tell, you know, I could tell you I'm full, man.

697
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,760
I'm done.

698
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,760
Are you full?

699
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,160
Are you going to tell yourself, no, no, like I want to keep going just for a couple more

700
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,160
minutes.

701
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,160
Right?

702
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,160
You know what I mean?

703
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,160
Like that kind of mental aspect, I believe that's the trick to competitive eating.

704
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,600
Like, yeah, obviously it's a lot physical, but a lot of it's mental too.

705
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,600
That's an interesting point.

706
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,600
I feel like a lot of that carries over to, you know, like weightlifting, bodybuilding

707
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,620
that you have to, you know, embrace the pain, you know, in order to see the results and

708
00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:08,620
get bigger.

709
00:31:08,620 --> 00:31:09,620
So that's, that's interesting.

710
00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:13,600
You know, that, that probably has helped you in that aspect.

711
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,740
Sure.

712
00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:20,080
So what, so you've done, what do you think hundreds of challenges by now in these last

713
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,080
three years?

714
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,040
What do you think was the hardest or what was the hardest one for you and why?

715
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:33,120
In terms of like quote unquote food challenges, I've got a pretty good record, but now obviously

716
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,680
with social media and my channels and my, my reach getting 40 plus million views a month

717
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,680
across all my channels.

718
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,680
Right?

719
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,120
So my core business now is not so much food challenges.

720
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,680
It's more promotional work for brands and restaurants.

721
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,440
So now restaurants use me as like a virtual menu board instead of eating their 10 pound

722
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,040
or their five pound burger that I can do with ease.

723
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,240
They're like, how about we just give you our whole menu and you can just promote our whole

724
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,240
menu.

725
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,240
Right?

726
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,120
So to be honest, I've done a couple of like, I've tried to take on like four people food

727
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,400
challenges, like a 20 pound pizza that damn near killed me.

728
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,200
I left once, I was so annoyed.

729
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,140
One day I'll go back and eat that pizza.

730
00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:16,360
But now to be honest, like every other day I'm doing something crazy.

731
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,360
That's challenging me.

732
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:25,000
Um, you know, I'll do a, like today I did a barbecue, a barbecue restaurant.

733
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,580
They gave me like their family barbecue pack that serves eight people.

734
00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:30,160
So that's the challenge because that's for eight people.

735
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,160
Right?

736
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,160
It's like 10 pounds, right?

737
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,160
Crazy.

738
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,360
So like, I'm constantly being challenged in that respect these days because it's not a

739
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,360
food challenge.

740
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,400
It's more of a, it's for a video.

741
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,360
It's for social media, PR, marketing piece.

742
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:49,200
So yeah, but like at the same time that's helping me prepare for a contest because it's

743
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,760
strict rather than having to go to a buffet.

744
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,860
I've got 10 pounds of barbecue in front of me and a stopwatch.

745
00:32:54,860 --> 00:32:56,360
I'm going to use this as my training.

746
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Right?

747
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,360
So I'm done a few crazy things.

748
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Like I've tried to eat whole menus or restaurants, you know, 20 pound pizzas.

749
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,360
I tried to eat.

750
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:12,080
So I tried to eat Australia's largest burger, which was nine and a half kilos, which is

751
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,920
over 20 pounds of burger.

752
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,020
I tried to fail miserably.

753
00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:17,680
I ate about 15 pounds.

754
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,680
Wow.

755
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,680
Yeah.

756
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,840
Look, I've done some crazy things and look, yeah, it all kind of falls under the food

757
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:29,960
challenge bracket, but a lot of it is just customized for me to make a funny video from.

758
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,960
That makes sense.

759
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,960
Yeah.

760
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,000
But it also doubles as your training, like you said, and you mentioned, uh, you mentioned

761
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,840
the hot dog eating contest, which is big here in the U S for sure.

762
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,800
And there's, I'd say like two household names in competitive eating for people like that

763
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,080
don't even follow that or watch that.

764
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,200
But everyone in the U S knew, you know, Kobayashi and Joey chestnut.

765
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,220
And on that topic, I wanted to ask if you have any sort of people that you looked up

766
00:33:54,220 --> 00:33:58,920
to either in the competitive eating space or just athletes in general, who you sort

767
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,400
of had as role models.

768
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,400
Yeah.

769
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,880
So look, um, look, let's talk about competitive eating first.

770
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,920
When I first discovered competitive eating and I started like watching film and video

771
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,060
and YouTube and whatnot, Kobayashi and Joey chestnut, they are the goats.

772
00:34:14,060 --> 00:34:15,560
They are the goats.

773
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,560
Right.

774
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,800
Um, when it came to hot dogs, no one's matching them.

775
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,120
They're in a league of their own.

776
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,760
I've actually beaten Joey chestnut in a couple of contests.

777
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,760
Wow.

778
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,800
Really hot dogs, different, different animal.

779
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,320
He's a beast when it comes to hot dogs.

780
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,320
Right.

781
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,160
So man, as an eater to compete against Joey, look, to be the best, you got to compete with

782
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,080
the best and get your ass kicked by the best.

783
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,800
That's how you learn.

784
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,920
Joey has tailed me up more times than I can imagine, but now I've beaten him four times

785
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,040
in other things, not hot dogs.

786
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,560
So he's kicked my ass two years in a row at the hot dog contest.

787
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,560
This year I want to match it.

788
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,160
Like I want to, I want to give him a run and see how close I can go.

789
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,720
Knowing what I know now, he's been doing this for 20 years.

790
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:58,680
I'm in my third year experiences, everything.

791
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,680
Right.

792
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,440
So I want to see how much I match up against him, but whether I get beaten by him, lose

793
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,880
to him, even if I beat him in any contest, it's respect, he's the goat.

794
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,880
Right.

795
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,880
So obviously look up to Joey.

796
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,880
He's a beast, man.

797
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,480
He was one of the first to turn eating into a career and make money from it.

798
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,480
Right.

799
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,160
So of course, look up to him.

800
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,840
Before that, I was really into my bodybuilding.

801
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,320
You know, a lot of elite bodybuilders when I first started showing my age now I'm 35.

802
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,840
So when I first started bodybuilding, man, like Branch Warren, Phil Heath, Jay Cutler,

803
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,760
Ben found ways to monetize what they love.

804
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,920
Right.

805
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,720
How the hell do you make money from bodybuilding?

806
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:38,720
You know, that's awesome.

807
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:39,720
Getting paid to train.

808
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:40,720
It's freaking awesome.

809
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:41,720
Right.

810
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,580
That's what got me into the gym in the first place.

811
00:35:43,580 --> 00:35:45,480
And then before that, I was really into my soccer.

812
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,480
Right.

813
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,800
So looked up to a lot of pro soccer players, you know, actually I was a goalkeeper.

814
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,960
One of my favorite goalkeepers ever was Iker Casillas, his Spanish.

815
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,320
And the guy was a beast.

816
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,600
He played till he was like 42 years old.

817
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,720
Animal.

818
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:04,040
But I've always looked up to people in different respects, but in life, man, my dad, my dad

819
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,840
is the goat.

820
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:11,000
So like soccer, bodybuilding, food, business, whatever.

821
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,740
Like my dad's like my go-to guy.

822
00:36:12,740 --> 00:36:16,960
And I kind of just, I want to mimic what he does in life.

823
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,960
In my eyes, he's a very successful man.

824
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,780
He provided me a great life, my family a great life.

825
00:36:22,780 --> 00:36:27,020
So to be fair, when it comes to role models, it's my dad at the top.

826
00:36:27,020 --> 00:36:33,440
And then depending on what realm of life I have, like people just below that.

827
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,440
That's an awesome answer, man.

828
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,440
Yeah.

829
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,240
I really, I really liked that, that answer there.

830
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:41,160
James, I only got about a minute left here, a minute and a half.

831
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,680
I don't want to take up too much of your time, but sort of last quick two questions for you.

832
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,440
Future plans, future challenges.

833
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,640
What are you looking forward to this year?

834
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,520
I know you mentioned Hungary, Germany, Japan coming up, but yeah, talk real quick about

835
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,760
what you got prepared for the future.

836
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,800
Next weekend in DC, I'm defending my donut world record.

837
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,080
I want to defend that title.

838
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,640
I want to win the, I want to go top three at Nathan's one day.

839
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,640
I want to win Nathan's.

840
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,520
I promise you that I'm going to win one day.

841
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,740
And then what's, what's next for me, obviously America, then Hungary, then Germany back to

842
00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:15,640
America to defend a few of my titles.

843
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,600
Hey, look, I'm currently ranked number five.

844
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,900
I want to get that top three spot.

845
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:21,900
That's awesome, man.

846
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:27,000
I'll let you go ahead and shout out your social media handles, you know, your tick tock Instagram

847
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,000
right here.

848
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,000
And I'll include links below.

849
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,000
Thank you.

850
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,520
I'm look search jwebby can eat on every platform.

851
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,960
Jwebby jwebby can eat.

852
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,960
It's all me.

853
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,960
Awesome.

854
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,420
James, the last question here, and I really appreciate you taking the time, but you got

855
00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:41,820
to make it out to Croatia at some point.

856
00:37:41,820 --> 00:37:45,120
And if you had to do a food challenge over there, what would you do?

857
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Well, it's got to be chivapi man.

858
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,960
Like I've had chivapi lots.

859
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,680
I just need the real stuff.

860
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,680
And the lepina.

861
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,680
Well, forget it.

862
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,320
Oh, you're making me hungry right now, man.

863
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,240
I'm going to go make some lunch or something.

864
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:58,720
But James, awesome.

865
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:00,560
Really appreciate you having you on, man.

866
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,560
Thank you for having me.

867
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Have a good time.

