1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,600 Justin, I'm sorry, no intro today. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,760 We just gotta get into it. 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,400 It's a packed show, it seems, 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,280 and I just don't know if we're gonna be able 5 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,200 to talk about this. 6 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,800 I beat Hi-Fi Rush this week. 7 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,360 You beat Hi-Fi Rush, and your thoughts? 8 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,360 I loved it. 9 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,760 I loved, like, from start to finish, 10 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,140 what a fucking great game. 11 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,400 I'm not gonna talk specifically about the endings, 12 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,320 I don't wanna spoil it. 13 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,600 Not that I think there's a whole lot 14 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,600 of giant things to spoil, but the final boss, 15 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,420 I got a question for you. 16 00:00:26,420 --> 00:00:30,600 How many tries did it take you to beat him? 17 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,600 What was the final, I know what it was. 18 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,880 Like, it was just the fight on the rooftop. 19 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:36,720 I mean, it's just very- 20 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,560 I think one, why? 21 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,600 It took me 11 tries. 22 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,680 Why? 23 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,840 I was getting my ass kicked, I don't know. 24 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:46,200 And it was the sort of thing where I beat it 25 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,880 the night before Resident Evil came out, 26 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:48,960 because I was like, I need to beat this, 27 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,320 otherwise it's just not, it's gonna get shunted down 28 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,400 and I'm gonna forget all the combos 29 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,440 and everything like that. 30 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,440 And it was like 1 a.m. and I was like, I gotta beat this. 31 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,360 And I was seriously just dying over and over and over again. 32 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,800 It could have been because it was 1 a.m. 33 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,200 And the first thing to go at 1 a.m. 34 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,500 are your rhythm skills, I think. 35 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:12,320 That's potentially true. 36 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:16,680 Yeah, so the only boss I died on was the coolest boss, 37 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,920 which was the Wolfgang fight. 38 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,080 Oh, that was also excellent. 39 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,560 You mentioned a beat drop or a needle drop moment. 40 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:24,960 A needle drop moment, and boy, 41 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:26,600 wasn't that fucking badass. That was pretty good. 42 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,720 That was one of the top moments in games 43 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,160 that I've played in a long time. 44 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,520 And it, I don't know, I've recently been back 45 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,760 on an anime kick, which we'll talk about in a bit. 46 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,200 But the game just bleeds anime to me, 47 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,240 just the hype levels. Oh yeah. 48 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,480 The characters are just awesome. 49 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,580 I love the power of friendship that comes through 50 00:01:49,580 --> 00:01:51,160 throughout the whole thing. 51 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,220 And the canon part, the way they set up, 52 00:01:53,220 --> 00:01:57,680 the canon part is one of the funniest moments. 53 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,400 That's the thing, the game is so funny. 54 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,040 It's so funny. 55 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,640 And I think that's pretty rare with video games, 56 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,040 just because, I don't know, it's got the timing right, 57 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,040 the script is so good, and it's so self-aware and silly. 58 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,720 It's almost not ironic that a game 59 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,360 about hitting the beats correctly 60 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,640 has such good comedic timing. 61 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:20,480 Yeah, oh, totally. 62 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,720 It is really such an important thing 63 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,000 with getting a joke, and I think 64 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,360 that's why video games often don't deliver humor well, 65 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,120 is because it's really hard to get that timing 66 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,160 when you have users inputting stuff at different times. 67 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,400 But it just all fits so well. 68 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,720 It's a pretty chatty game at times with the characters, 69 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,600 but I don't mind any of the chattiness. 70 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,720 I found myself talking to every character 71 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,920 between every mission to find out about 72 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:42,360 what was going on with them. 73 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:48,160 I would love to see this as an anime, or as a cartoon. 74 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,920 I would love this to be a cartoon, 75 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:51,200 develop these characters. A thousand percent. 76 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,520 It'd be awesome. 77 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,160 I was a little sad that you unlocked 78 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,440 customization at the very end. 79 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Yeah, yeah. 80 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,800 So you can customize the guitar that he has. 81 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:03,880 They've got a lot of great guitars in there. 82 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,000 I just bought myself a fancy new guitar, 83 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:09,840 and it was in there. 84 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,520 Oh, that is awesome. 85 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,000 I was like, if I had customization unlocked 86 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,360 at the beginning of this, this would have been 87 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,280 absolutely what I was using. 88 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,800 I think the brilliant thing about that game 89 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,520 is that I button mash a lot in these kind of games, 90 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,840 and I know I shouldn't, but it feels like 91 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,480 even when you're button mashing in this game, 92 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,960 you got just the rhythm down of your button mashing 93 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,320 in a way that just made it work so well, 94 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,240 and by the end of it, you have so many systems 95 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,080 that you're juggling, but it doesn't feel overwhelming. 96 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,800 It doesn't feel like you're not in control of it, 97 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,040 and it's just a fantastic, fantastic game. 98 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Highly recommend. 99 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,400 And I really like the way that it elevates everything, 100 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,400 by just introducing new elements and new enemies 101 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:50,760 and all sorts of stuff. 102 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,440 I think it's just so vibrant, pops so much. 103 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,040 Yeah, excellent game. 104 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,480 The only problem with it is there's no platinum trophy, 105 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,600 so I don't give a fuck about platinum it, 106 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,560 and I might have considered going back. 107 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,200 I really might have. 108 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,040 Yeah, I agree. 109 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,960 If it was a PlayStation game, this would have been one 110 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,200 that I probably would have platinumed, 111 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,160 because it seems pretty simple. 112 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,920 There are reasons to replay it, too. 113 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,560 There's all these hidden areas that you get 114 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,400 the key card for or something like that. 115 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,480 And there's literal missions to do afterwards 116 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,120 that are like, you go back and the level select gets open, 117 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,880 you can go back and play it. 118 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,800 So don't feel like, I mean, the game is very obvious 119 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,160 about like, oh, we're missing stuff, don't worry about it. 120 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,560 We'll come back later to do this. 121 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,200 There's these doors all over it that eventually become these, 122 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,360 what do they call them? 123 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,400 There's mysterious signals coming out of them 124 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,280 that you open up and you have to do some more fights and stuff. 125 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:45,080 But yeah. 126 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,240 I always like it when in a game though, 127 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,960 when the characters explicitly say like, 128 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,640 I don't think we have what we need for this. 129 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:50,480 Yeah, yeah. 130 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,320 And they just tell you, they're like, yeah, not now, bud. 131 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,560 And that also tells you that there's gonna be 132 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,320 a level select so you don't have to worry about it, 133 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,840 because the first time that happened, I'm like, 134 00:04:57,840 --> 00:04:59,280 oh, I can come back and play this later 135 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:01,040 and get all this stuff. 136 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Would you have thought this is a game I would have liked? 137 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,480 Not in a million years, I'm so surprised you liked it. 138 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,280 I'm so happy you liked it, because I loved it. 139 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:10,440 Yeah, no, it was just one of those that, 140 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,960 it's not my type of genre game that I usually enjoy, 141 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,600 but it was great. 142 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,160 Without going into super many spoilers, 143 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,760 what was your favorite boss fight? 144 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,320 That is tough. 145 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,160 I can't say I liked them all, because I liked them all. 146 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,000 Because it has to be my favorite one. 147 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,480 I'll be honest, I think the first one is really good, 148 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,760 and it might be because of the needle drop moment 149 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,360 with the nine inch nail song. 150 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,080 Which by the way, the final boss fight 151 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,680 also has a nine inch nail song. 152 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,000 And I love it. 153 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,600 Over my head. 154 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,680 11 times into it, I was like, 155 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,240 I fucking hate the beginning of this song. 156 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,320 I don't like this song. 157 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,360 That's funny. 158 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,880 You just hit a classical song for me, I know that. 159 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,280 I jammed to that one, but anything else, 160 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:03,280 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, 2020s, isn't that crazy? 161 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,560 There's that many. 162 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,760 There's like, it just keeps going. 163 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,800 There's that many between the 70s and the 2020s. 164 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:12,640 It's like 50 years, right? 165 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,160 It's crazy. 166 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,320 But yeah, I don't know, they're so memorable and good. 167 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,120 I really like the one, two with, 168 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,840 what was her name? 169 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:26,400 She's on the stage, she's performing. 170 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,200 And she's wearing a butterfly costume. 171 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,240 I think my favorite was the face off one. 172 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,600 The one that was really not a combat boss fight. 173 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,280 Oh yeah, but like all the counter stuff? 174 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:38,480 Yeah, it's just like a very simple rhythm. 175 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,160 And it fits with the story very well. 176 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,640 There is one input in that 177 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,440 that makes you get an S rank or not. 178 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,160 You have to catch the character at the end. 179 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,000 Fuck that one up. 180 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,840 Did you make it? Nope. 181 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:49,680 I did too. 182 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,040 I totally messed it up. 183 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,400 I love High Five Rush. 184 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,520 I think this is one I'm gonna be thinking about. 185 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,880 I truly enjoyed it, and hey, it's on Game Pass. 186 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,800 So give it a shot, give it a shot. 187 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,240 And hey, even if you don't think it's your type of game, 188 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,200 Justin loved it. 189 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,440 I did, I really did. 190 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,600 So, I don't know. 191 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,960 Maybe that means something to you. 192 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,840 Maybe it doesn't, I don't know. 193 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,680 It's in my eyes. 194 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:42,600 What's going on everyone? 195 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Welcome back to Hitbox, episode number 137. 196 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,240 My name is Peter Hunt Spittek. 197 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,040 Joining me as always, my friend and co-host. 198 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,400 I didn't say my wonderful friend. 199 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,080 I felt like I was trying to vary it up, 200 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,280 and I just said my friend, 201 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,720 but I felt like I just downgraded you. 202 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,280 So my wonderful friend and co-host, Justin Ekebich. 203 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,120 How are you, Justin? 204 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,040 What's going on, man? 205 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,280 I have two words for you. 206 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,120 Hit me with them. 207 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,720 Spring break. 208 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:08,720 Spring break. 209 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,560 Spring break forever. 210 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,040 By the way, that movie is terrible. 211 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,760 If you've ever seen Spring Breakers, 212 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,240 it is literally a terrible movie. 213 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,640 It's with. 214 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,480 With, is this. 215 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,760 James Franco. 216 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,800 James Franco. 217 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,080 Vanessa Hudgens. 218 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Ashley Benson. 219 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,240 Sure. 220 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,080 Selena Gomez. 221 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:32,920 Yep, yep. 222 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:33,760 Gucci Mane. 223 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Yep, sure, yeah, I'll agree with that. 224 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,560 It is just literally like a trashy movie, 225 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:41,960 but the best part about it is the slow-mo montage 226 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,520 with James Franco just whispering, 227 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,000 spring break in the background the whole time. 228 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,280 Quite possibly, yeah, 229 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,640 one of the more memorable moments of a movie. 230 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,480 That was terrible. 231 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,560 I'm remembering this movie because it came out 232 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:57,440 when I was in high school, 233 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,640 and it was the sort of thing where it was like, 234 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,320 it was like right at the age when I was beginning 235 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,400 to be allowed to see things. 236 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,240 Do you know what I mean? 237 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,720 Yeah, and you suddenly realize that 238 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,120 just because you're allowed to see things 239 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,120 doesn't mean you should see things. 240 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,600 Yeah, I didn't end up watching it though. 241 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,200 You said it's not good? 242 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,360 No, I mean it's like just a trashy movie. 243 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Yeah, I'm sort of reading a plot description here, 244 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,760 and it sounds like it. 245 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,840 James Franco's like a scumbag drug dealer 246 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,280 who is like, I don't know, 247 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,160 dealing drugs and stuff and influencing people to be bad 248 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,560 and not having, not making good choices. 249 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:41,600 It's like, not great. 250 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,400 Spring Break ruins people's lives if you're not careful. 251 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,920 That's why you should do what I do 252 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,640 and stay inside and play video games. 253 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,960 Yeah, that doesn't sound bad at all. 254 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,600 We're gonna be talking about a lot of video games today, 255 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:55,440 in fact. 256 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,240 Here's a preview of the news. 257 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,400 We're gonna get to it in a minute, 258 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,840 but here's a quick preview of it. 259 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,400 Resident Evil 4 Remake sells a whole lot of copies. 260 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,000 Ubisoft is employing AI to write its games, 261 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,840 and Xbox kills its excellent Game Pass deal. 262 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,720 We're gonna talk about all of those headlines and more 263 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,000 in a little bit before we hop into our Metacritic roundup. 264 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,160 Here's a reminder to hop into our Discord server. 265 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,480 The link to that is in the description of this episode. 266 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,480 You can support us on Patreon, patreon.com slash hitbox pod. 267 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:27,320 Become a $1 podcast producer 268 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,480 or a $3 deluxe podcast producer 269 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,080 like Jay Null and Dave Parker. 270 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,600 If you become a deluxe podcast producer, 271 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,280 you get an additional 30 minute bonus episode 272 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,600 every single week. 273 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,680 This week, we're gonna look at Chia, 274 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:43,600 a little bit more in depth after talking about it today. 275 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,280 And then you also get access to the rest 276 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,240 of all of our bonus episodes and all that sort of stuff. 277 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,200 So if that's interesting to you, 278 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,240 let us know by going to patreon.com slash hitbox pod 279 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,000 and becoming a patron. 280 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,080 If not all good, go ahead and follow us on Twitter 281 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,400 at hitboxpod. 282 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:01,840 Make sure to rate the show 283 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,600 and you're a podcast player of choice. 284 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,320 That would help us out a whole lot. 285 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,600 Justin, wanna head to the Metacritic Roundup? 286 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Let's do it. 287 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,920 Metacritic Roundup. 288 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,240 Just one game in the Metacritic Roundup today. 289 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,840 It is Have a Nice Death, 290 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,160 which is releasing on PC and Switch. 291 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,800 There is no score for the Switch, 292 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,800 but on PC it has an 82. 293 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,120 Now, I think we saw this at some Nintendo directs maybe, 294 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,840 or maybe it was just a different showcase. 295 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,560 This is like a very Hollow Knight-esque 296 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:43,800 sort of 2D action game, 297 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,480 although I think it's a rogue light. 298 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,560 So it's got that randomly generated 299 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:51,480 and all that sort of business. 300 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,760 He plays the Grim Reaper, 301 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,680 and he's like overworked with paperwork 302 00:11:57,680 --> 00:11:58,520 and all that sort of stuff, 303 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,040 so I always find it fun when stories come up 304 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,360 with a new way to talk about, 305 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,280 here's the Grim Reaper. 306 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,360 What was that game? 307 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,200 Death's Door? 308 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,040 I thought that was fun. 309 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,960 That was one of my favorite games of that year, 2021. 310 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,040 Yeah, yeah. 311 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:13,880 What do you think? 312 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:14,720 Are you picking this up? 313 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,560 82? 314 00:12:15,560 --> 00:12:17,240 I actually was sitting there 315 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,400 reading some of the reviews of it, 316 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,000 and I'm not opposed to actually picking it up. 317 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,400 I know these are never the types of games I finish, 318 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,920 but it is something on the Switch. 319 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,560 It is something that looks pretty. 320 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:33,160 I hear it's funny, 321 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,800 but I do hear a couple things about it 322 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,640 that make it a little scary. 323 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,520 The permaprogression isn't great. 324 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,120 It takes a long time with a lot of your permanent boosts, 325 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,240 because it is a rogue light, 326 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,080 which means that you do get some permanent upgrades, right? 327 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,000 I think that's how it goes. 328 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Because a rogue light is nothing. 329 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,120 A rogue light is mostly randomly generated, 330 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,280 to start from zero. 331 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,520 So they don't really have that stuff. 332 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,480 And I hear it's hard, specifically the bosses. 333 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,320 Some of the bosses, once you get to them, 334 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,840 are really, really hard to get through and learn. 335 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,960 The rest of the game is not as difficult, 336 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,520 and those bosses and those mini bosses 337 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,880 are really the choke point to a lot of it. 338 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,440 So I don't know. 339 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,480 This is one of those classic, 340 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,440 if it was on Game Pass, I would try it out 341 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,800 and then see if I like it or not. 342 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,640 But I was on the Switch, 343 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,200 and I was sitting there looking like, ah, Dead Cells 344 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,360 is on sale for pretty cheap with the Castlevania DLC. 345 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,200 Castlevania DLC. 346 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,120 And then they had this game, 347 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,400 and I was like, ooh, that's a tough choice for me. 348 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,280 I know Dead Cells is one of the best games ever. 349 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,480 I think it's on Game Pass, too. 350 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,960 At least the base version is, right? 351 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:43,800 I think. 352 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,000 Yeah, it is. 353 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,120 And anyway, so I was deciding between those two, 354 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,440 and then by the time I decided, 355 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,560 or finished deciding, I was like, 356 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,520 oh, my need to buy this is gone, but I don't know. 357 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:56,720 What are your thoughts? 358 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,480 It's interesting. 359 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,480 I get every so often the rogue-lite craving, 360 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,640 and it is sometimes, it's satisfied, 361 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,680 and then it goes away for a while. 362 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:15,080 So Hades hit that for me okay, 363 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,200 and then Returnal pretty much right afterwards 364 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,600 did me up in a very, very good way. 365 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,960 But ever since Returnal, I haven't had a huge desire 366 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,600 to stick with this genre. 367 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,560 I like the art style for this game for, 368 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,880 yeah, have a nice death. 369 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:32,720 It looks beautiful. 370 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,920 I mean, the lighting in it looks really cool. 371 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,720 The animation style looks really cool. 372 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,640 It's not as, what's the word, thirsty as Hades, 373 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,760 but I. 374 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,880 No, no. 375 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,600 I would say that if I describe this game, 376 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,320 it's like if Double Fine made an action game. 377 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,480 Yeah, yeah, actually. 378 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,840 Do you know what I mean in terms of the animations 379 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,480 and the way everything's drawn, 380 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,960 where it's kinda cartoony, but still very stylish? 381 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:58,800 Yeah. 382 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:03,120 Yeah, no, I probably won't be picking this up, 383 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,920 but there you go. 384 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Have a nice death. 385 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,920 I mean, if it's the right price, 386 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,680 anything is possible for me. 387 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,040 Who knows? Also, very fair. 388 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,520 Maybe it'll end up being a really funny rhythm game, 389 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,160 and I'll love it, and it'll be probably 390 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,480 in my top 10 of the year, probably top five of the year. 391 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,480 Because right now, I'm gonna be honest with you, 392 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,240 Hi-Fi Rush, definitely in the upper one 393 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,280 of the games I played this year that are new. 394 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,560 I was gonna say, I was trying to think, 395 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,440 I think I've played four new games this year, 396 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,000 so yeah, it's up there for me. 397 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,320 It's for sure in my top four, you know what I mean? 398 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,400 I'll say this, though, it's not number four. 399 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,240 How's that? 400 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,320 Oh, okay. 401 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,920 Oh, what? 402 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Ooh, the view bomb. 403 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,600 Four, that's an ominous number that you just mentioned. 404 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,540 The four. 405 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,480 Does that have anything to do? 406 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Oh, you wanna talk about Resident Evil 4? 407 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,280 We could, yeah, let's do it. 408 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,480 Yeah, let's do it. 409 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,320 Leon, Leon, Leon, Leon! 410 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:55,760 We talked about it last week. 411 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,640 There she is. 412 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,520 This is, by the way, I was like, 413 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,560 you were talking to me, and I was trying to respond 414 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,040 while also cut this together. 415 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,120 I was not doing a good job talking to you, 416 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,720 I felt so bad, but I couldn't spoil it. 417 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,640 One more for the viewers, listeners at home. 418 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,560 Leon, Leon, Leon, Leon! 419 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,480 Leon, Leon, Leon! 420 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,840 And also, the little icon on my stream deck is Leon, 421 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,880 but you know that Midriff mod that people made? 422 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,720 Yep, yep, suddenly this is all making sense. 423 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,560 So I was asking you, I was like, 424 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,760 I smell Midriff, and you're like, what are you looking at? 425 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:30,920 There were some images, by the way. 426 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,920 I'm sure there were. 427 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,520 Question, is that from the new remake or the original? 428 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,520 So in the two seconds I took to find this image, 429 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,960 it is from the original, but I am happy to see 430 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,000 that they have brought that mod over to the remake. 431 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,840 Got it, got it, good, good, good, solid, solid, solid. 432 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,320 Yeah, yeah, so Resident Evil 4 remake, I've been playing. 433 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,960 I've played a fuck ton of, actually, 434 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,080 because I looked at my girlfriend, 435 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,080 and I said, listen, Friday and Saturday, 436 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,600 is it okay if we don't? 437 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Is it okay if we do not? 438 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,880 Like, you know, come over, you know, you'll do your thing, 439 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,560 I'll do my thing, but like, I think I need, 440 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:10,640 I think I need this. 441 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,760 So we, she was like, yeah, no problem. 442 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,880 So literally all day, Friday night, 443 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,840 and then all day Saturday was just Resident Evil 4. 444 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,880 And well, it's a good game, 445 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,200 and I don't know what I was expecting. 446 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,440 Like, it's really good. 447 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,160 It is totally in line with the rest 448 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,960 of the, like, Resident Evil remakes. 449 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,680 I am really into those, and I was a fool to think 450 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,280 that I wouldn't be really into this as well. 451 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,400 I mean, it's good, it is good. 452 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,760 What was your hesitation going in? 453 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:44,920 I had a few, and I think I talked about them 454 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,440 on the show a little bit. 455 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,400 Nothing like, I didn't think that I would not like this, 456 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,120 but I had some questions about, like, 457 00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:54,200 is this gonna be goofy, like, 458 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,560 in the way that the first one was? 459 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,640 And the answer is, so far, not really. 460 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,120 Like, he's still kind of a, he kind of yucks it up 461 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:03,400 in terms of, like, his, like, one-liners 462 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,440 and stuff like that. 463 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,000 But it's less like, now you're gonna run away 464 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,920 from a giant boulder, you know what I mean? 465 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,360 I just, I've gotten to the castle, 466 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:15,520 so that's when it really starts to ramp up 467 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:20,520 in its kind of silliness, at least in my memory. 468 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,280 So I guess I still have to report back on that. 469 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,520 But I was a little worried about that. 470 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,880 And then also, like, I think that, 471 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,720 and we've talked about this, that, like, 472 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,960 I know that the over-the-shoulder, like, 473 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,960 plant-your-feet shooting controls do kind of suck, 474 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,000 but I also think that they're a little, 475 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,360 they are a little bit necessary 476 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:47,360 in terms of, like, establishing, like, the tone of the game. 477 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,800 And, like, it makes, like, plant-your-feet 478 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,480 and shooting, like, a very, like, deliberate choice. 479 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,880 And I think that is really essential to that gameplay loop, 480 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,240 at least in the original, of, like, 481 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,800 okay, I'm getting overwhelmed, I gotta either shoot or run 482 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,440 and trying to figure out what to do with that, 483 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,960 I think is pretty compelling, to be honest with you. 484 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,040 And so the fact that it's, 485 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,040 you can just sort of walk and shoot at the same time. 486 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,200 I mean, you can't walk very fast, 487 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,920 but the fact that you can still do it, 488 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,920 I do think it makes sense when you're modernizing it, 489 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,200 but I think that deliberate choice of, like, 490 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,880 okay, now we're gonna stop and we're gonna shoot 491 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,040 is, in my opinion, still pretty interesting. 492 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:34,840 It's a good game. 493 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,840 Okay, so, no, I didn't know if you had another point. 494 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:38,680 No, no, no. 495 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,760 So what other, like, in general, 496 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,560 what were some of the updates that you found 497 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,840 to be, like, exceptionally good or different or better? 498 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Okay, so it's been a long time 499 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,360 since I've played Resident Evil 4. 500 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,800 I don't, like, I'm not gonna say any of, like, 501 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,280 the story beats or anything like that, 502 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,040 because I don't, if they are new, 503 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,800 they seem like they're really interesting and different. 504 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,360 So it seems like the story has been, like, really modified. 505 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:07,840 And again, I don't know if that's 506 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,440 because I just don't remember it that well 507 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,160 or if it really has been, but, like, yeah, it is. 508 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,080 A lot of stuff seems to be out of order 509 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,080 in terms of, like, when things happen 510 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,600 in a way that I think is kind of fun. 511 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,440 And, like, I imagine that, like, diehard fans of the game 512 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,760 will be like, oh, weird, this didn't happen. 513 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,200 And then later it does happen, 514 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,200 and you're like, oh, cool, they did it. 515 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,160 I think, like, a really good example of them 516 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,600 sort of playing with your expectations like that. 517 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,280 People get weird about spoilers. 518 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,720 Here's a spoiler for some dialogue. 519 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,720 So if you don't wanna hear that, plug your ears, 520 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,400 and while you're doing that, 521 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,920 try and think about what matters in life. 522 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,880 But basically, at the beginning, 523 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,560 you're riding in the car with the two, like, local policemen, 524 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,600 and one of the cops pulls out a cigarette 525 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,680 and offers Leon, like, hey, do you smoke? 526 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,000 And in the remake, he just sort of, like, brushes him off, 527 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,840 and he, like, waves him away. 528 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,480 He's like, no, I'm good. 529 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,560 In the original, he, like, straight up looks at him, 530 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,400 and he's like, don't you know that those will kill you? 531 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Like, brought to you by the fucking surgeon general, right? 532 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,880 Coming from an American, that seems odd, you know? 533 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,120 Yeah, it's a little weird, right? 534 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:20,160 But so, like, in the original, like, 535 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,320 that's like an iconic line, 536 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,880 because it's just so weird right off the bat, 537 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,440 like, just so, like, so odd 538 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,520 that you would just say that to a stranger, essentially. 539 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,720 And then in the remake, you know, he sort of brushes him off. 540 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,720 And then later, someone asks him, like, 541 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:34,640 hey, you got a pack of smokes? 542 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,800 And he's like, don't you know that those will kill you? 543 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,480 And it's like one of those moments where, like, they get it. 544 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,320 They know. 545 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,520 Does everyone just stop and look at the camera? 546 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,360 And, like? 547 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:43,640 That's what it feels like, right? 548 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,040 Where it's just like, like, we know what we're doing 549 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,560 with, like, playing with this sort of stuff. 550 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,880 And that's the sort of thing I really like. 551 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,960 And I think, again, my memory on, like, 552 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,920 the original game is a little hazy. 553 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,880 But it seems like they're doing that with a lot of the beats 554 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,880 of, like, the big set pieces 555 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,600 that are some of the more memorable ones 556 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,800 seem to be shifted around a fair amount 557 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,040 and stuff like that. 558 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,680 I'm loving it. 559 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,200 It brings to mind, like, the question of, like, 560 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,760 how necessary is this? 561 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,280 Since I think that Resident Evil 4 is, like, 562 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,280 is a pretty perfect game. 563 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,920 And I know that, like, there is that grab, like, that, that, 564 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,560 like, counterpoint of, like, well, what about the controls? 565 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,680 And I say, like, yeah, they are frustrating. 566 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,200 But I think that if you can take the time to learn them, 567 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,920 I think that that still makes it, 568 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,640 I think it's still not terrible. 569 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:34,480 You know what I mean? 570 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,320 I mean, from me just playing the beginning of both games 571 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,840 recently in the past, like, two weeks, 572 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,200 I think something like this, it's, like, 573 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,640 that's a different conversation to me 574 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,720 because they're different enough that it updates it enough, 575 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,920 that it makes it new enough that I think it can, like, 576 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,720 satisfy the old fans but also bring in new fans 577 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,800 or hesitant fans because we've all talked about 578 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,160 how it's just not as easy to play of a game 579 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,040 for a modern gamer anymore. 580 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,520 And that can really stop people from playing it. 581 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,480 And I do think they made enough significant changes 582 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,920 to combat, to the inventory system, to the questing system, 583 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,280 to even how you explore the world, if I'm correct, 584 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,280 in some of the areas. 585 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,120 I mean, you- 586 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:15,040 I think so. 587 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,880 I mean, you've played more than me. 588 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,440 I've only played the demo at this point. 589 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,880 But I don't know, I think there's nothing wrong 590 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,360 with updating a classic game. 591 00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:26,680 And I think, if anything, the sales numbers are showing 592 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,040 that it is, like, definitely something that people 593 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,120 are liking and people are playing. 594 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,720 Agreed. 595 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,840 Before we talk about sales, 596 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,800 I think that you actually bring up a really good point 597 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,000 about, like, letting this be, you know, 598 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,520 if someone who's 15 or 16, who's really into gaming, 599 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,800 probably knows about Resident Evil 4, right? 600 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,760 Because, I mean, it's just, it's talked about so much 601 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:50,600 as one of those. 602 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,440 Yeah, it's one of the top games of all time. 603 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,280 Yeah. 604 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,920 You are totally right. 605 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,720 I imagine if they go and try to play it, it's like, 606 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,960 this is fucking old. 607 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,880 And so you play this, and yeah, I think, like, 608 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,520 this is a great gateway into it. 609 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,640 And then also you play this, and it turns out you love it, 610 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,920 and you go, okay, well, you know what, 611 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,880 let me put up with the oldness of the original to play it. 612 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,680 You know, and I think that you're totally right 613 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,040 that that is a really solid entry point. 614 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,680 I will say, the one, the one, like, 615 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,040 and also, sorry, this is, this is by all means, 616 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,560 like, a good remake. 617 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Like, don't get me wrong, like, it is a good remake. 618 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,680 I think, like, we were saying, like, adds enough 619 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,440 and does enough to it. 620 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:33,440 Remixes enough stuff that I think it is well worth a buy. 621 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,960 And like, I'm satisfied. 622 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,880 I played, I paid full price for this, you know what I mean? 623 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,560 Like, I'm not doing it for work, out of my pocket, 624 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,080 I bought this, and I'm super, super happy 625 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,520 with it, having a great time. 626 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,960 And like, I think, do you know Skill Up? 627 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,960 He's a YouTuber. 628 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,240 He does like YouTube reviews and stuff like that. 629 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,680 And he talked about Last of Us Part One, 630 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,960 where he basically said, he compared it to his love 631 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,800 for the movie RoboCop, where he's like, 632 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,680 I own so many different versions of RoboCop. 633 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,440 And he's like, I've paid a lot more for a lot less 634 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,080 in order to love RoboCop and have these different versions 635 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,640 of RoboCop in reference to Last of Us Part One, 636 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,760 like the remake. 637 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,720 Same thing with this. 638 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,160 Like, there are a significant amount of changes. 639 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,800 And like, if you are the type of person 640 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,120 who maybe is skeptical about playing the original, 641 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,400 obviously that's still there. 642 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,640 But they're like, I've also paid a lot more 643 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,040 for a lot less in terms of like, actual changes 644 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,880 and stuff like that. 645 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,640 But the one big gripe I have with this game 646 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,800 is that one of my favorite things 647 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,440 about the original Resident Evil 4 648 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,480 is that the laser sight as your aimer, 649 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,640 as like your aim tool, you know what I'm saying? 650 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,760 You can get that in the game, 651 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,760 but you're only able to use it on two different guns. 652 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,000 And like, listen, I get it. 653 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,400 Like, I get you wanna have the reticle for the shotgun 654 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,800 to know how big of a spread you have. 655 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,160 But I always really liked the laser sight. 656 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,480 And I was so excited when I was like, 657 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,800 oh my gosh, I can attach this to my weapon, whatever. 658 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,720 And then the next pistol I picked up, 659 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,200 and I was like, well, this is the better pistol. 660 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,960 It's like, oh, but it can't have a little sight on it. 661 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,440 And I wish it could. 662 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:18,000 Is the game, so for me, 663 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,480 one of the things I've always complained about 664 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,640 was the goofiness of it. 665 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,200 And you said they kinda remixed some stuff 666 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,320 with the cigarette thing to maybe not make the goofiness 667 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,880 right in front, but they kinda put it back in there. 668 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,200 Is the game still goofy? 669 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,480 It's still cheesy and campy sometimes. 670 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,480 Like I said, with Leon's little one-liners and whatever. 671 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,960 But it's not like pie in the face. 672 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,840 I don't know if the original one 673 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,120 was ever really pie in the face. 674 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:50,760 But I would say that it feels still pretty authentic 675 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,240 to what the original one was going for. 676 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,040 Okay, yeah, because I mean, 677 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,040 I think that was one of the things 678 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,600 that was the most shocking about Resident Evil 2 679 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,920 when I was playing that one, 680 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,360 was how they had some genuinely dramatic moments in there 681 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,160 that really built to some good character stuff. 682 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,840 The part where the dad has to kill his daughter 683 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,520 and you hear the shotgun. 684 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,080 It's right away after you leave the police station. 685 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,520 That's a very real moment. 686 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,320 Even the whole revealing of what was actually going on 687 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,840 in the labs and who Ada was and all that kind of stuff 688 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,120 was done in a way that wasn't comically ridiculous. 689 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:28,320 It was done in a way that was dramatically significant 690 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,480 for me. 691 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,480 And then I saw this Twitter video of someone said, 692 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,400 when everyone else would duck, Leon would dot dot dot 693 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,600 and it's two chainsaws coming through a wall. 694 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,280 And then instead of ducking, 695 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,600 Leon does a back kick and spins. 696 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,440 He kicks off the wall. 697 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,960 Yeah, kicks off the wall to avoid them. 698 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,000 So I'm like, okay, well, still there. 699 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,040 It's still got that to it. 700 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,880 You know what I mean? 701 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,040 It's not super serious. 702 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,200 That said, there are some pretty absolutely 703 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,080 unnerving horror sections of it. 704 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,280 I think the opening is a great example of it. 705 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,560 I think that village section where you just survive, 706 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,360 I don't know, figure it out, is so unnerving and scary. 707 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:11,080 And I think that that is a really good tone setter 708 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,920 because then it also ends with him being like, 709 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,760 where's everyone going? 710 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,600 Bingo. 711 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,440 You know what I mean? 712 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,160 So it's able to juggle, actually being pretty unnerving 713 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,120 and frightening while also having those silly little quips 714 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:24,360 and one-liners and whatever. 715 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:26,280 Which by the way, did you see that you can 716 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,680 enter that section early if you shoot the bell tower 717 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,960 and sound the bell in that section? 718 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,600 Is that only in the remake or is that? 719 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,200 Yeah, I don't know if it's in the original, 720 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,560 but the videos are going around on Twitter today 721 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,840 of people doing that and going like, 722 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,280 oh my gosh, this is so cool. 723 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,560 And I appreciate that attention to detail. 724 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,400 It's hard to do unless you have a sniper rifle 725 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,760 because the tower's far away. 726 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,840 But I think that's pretty fun. 727 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,840 Yeah, it's awesome. 728 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,160 Yeah, let's talk real quick about its sales numbers. 729 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,280 So Red Nable 4 remake is the first of the remakes 730 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,440 to outsell its original counterpart 731 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,080 in its opening weekend. 732 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,040 So basically, this is an article from gamesindustry.biz 733 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,960 by Christopher Dring titled, 734 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,000 the Resident Evil 4 remake launch 29% bigger 735 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,280 than the GameCube original. 736 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,200 And it basically just goes on to say that in the UK, 737 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,680 its sales are 29% higher for the remake 738 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,520 compared to the original, 739 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,240 which launched in March of 2005 in the UK. 740 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,120 But it does go on to clarify a little bit. 741 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,040 Of course, the GameCube Resident Evil 4 742 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,960 was only released on one platform 743 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,440 and not a particularly popular one either. 744 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,120 However, 100% of its sales were physical, 745 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,840 whereas this remake will have substantial digital sales. 746 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,040 Downloaded data is not included in this report 747 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,040 and will be available later in the week. 748 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,480 So yeah, and then it does go on also to say 749 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,680 that none of the other Resident Evil remake games 750 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,360 have been able to outsell their originals as well. 751 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,120 And then to go off of that, 752 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,760 the concurrent players are also pretty huge. 753 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,080 A GameSpot article by Joseph Yadden titled, 754 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,400 Resident Evil 4 remake already has 755 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,040 most concurrent Steam players in series history. 756 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,040 They talk about how Resident Evil Village peaked at 106,000. 757 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:20,040 And then the remake already has 200,012 Twitch viewers. 758 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,000 And it peaked, wait, no, no. 759 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,080 I read this wrong. 760 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,160 The remake, I don't know if they say the concurrent numbers. 761 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,840 What are the concurrent numbers? 762 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,680 Oh, it has surpassed 118,000 already 763 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,440 and it's only been out since the 24th, which is crazy. 764 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,640 Yeah, it's good, man. 765 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,840 It is really good. 766 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,960 And I know that you were talking about 767 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920 how you weren't such a huge fan of the combat 768 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,480 in the Resident Evil 2 remake. 769 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,000 And it does still have a lot of that flavor to it, 770 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,440 but it is a lot more, 771 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,800 because the game is more combat focused and combat heavy, 772 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,360 there's a lot more that you can do. 773 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,320 And it's a lot less about just 774 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,720 juking around slow moving zombies and more about 775 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,840 crowd management and trying to figure out what to do about 776 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,680 this, that, and the other thing. 777 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,160 But it's good, it's real good, in fact. 778 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,040 So that's Resident Evil 4. 779 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,520 We'll be talking about it more as I get through it. 780 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,120 I mean, I'm probably gonna finish it this week. 781 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,840 I imagine I'm about halfway through. 782 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,600 I'm trying to take my time and go over, 783 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,720 turn over every single, leave no stone unturned. 784 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,760 I heard a completionist run could take upwards of 30 hours. 785 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,920 Yeah, I guess it, if you do all the side quests. 786 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,080 I'm not sure as to what the completion is, 787 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,880 what that means in terms of what you actually need to do. 788 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,840 I'm doing all the side quests. 789 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,680 By the way, the side quests were billed as some big thing. 790 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,440 They're pretty much nothing. 791 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,200 Give me an egg, give me an egg. 792 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,480 Yeah, it's literally like, yeah, find the golden egg, 793 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,720 which will be marked on the map, or like, 794 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,120 hey, destroy these five blue pendants. 795 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,240 I'm like, yeah, that's cool. 796 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,320 That was in the original kind of, 797 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,480 but they don't add significant, 798 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,880 they're fun, but they don't add a whole lot 799 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,240 to the actual experience. 800 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200 But yeah, I'm going over it with pretty much 801 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,680 a fine tooth comb, but I am also in love with it. 802 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,880 So it's gone by. 803 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,880 It's good to be in love, you know what I mean? 804 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,560 It is, it is. 805 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,960 Can we talk about another video game that I love? 806 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:33,800 Persona 5? 807 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,760 We can talk about Persona 5. 808 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,600 I'm always down. 809 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,000 I'm always ready. 810 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,160 Justin, what do you think of Chia? 811 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,880 Chia, Ch-Ch-Ch-Chia, the song that you are gonna jump off 812 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,840 a bridge if you hear one more time. 813 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,720 I just, every single podcast this week 814 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,760 that I've listened to that's talking about games 815 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,400 is like Ch-Ch-Ch-Chia, and I'm like, 816 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,680 it's not even funny, guys. 817 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,640 It's not even a joke, it's just word association. 818 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,640 Though, it makes you remember the title. 819 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,120 I suppose that's true. 820 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,280 Because that was first like when I saw this, 821 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,440 Tachaya, Tachik, Tachia, but now I know. 822 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,440 Chia, Chia Colon, a game inspired by New Caledonia. 823 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,520 That rolls off the tongue. 824 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,080 That just rolls off the tongue. 825 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,840 But, do you remember how last week we did the 826 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,720 find New Caledonia on the map? 827 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,560 Yep. 828 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,240 This game does a fantastic job of telling you 829 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,760 where the heck New Caledonia is. 830 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Yo, dude, this is, oh man, I'm gonna be so interested 831 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,200 to hear what you think about this. 832 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,040 I love this game. 833 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,440 And right off the bat, when it just is like, 834 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,840 hey, here's what's inspired, here's what this game's about. 835 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,440 It's inspired by New Caledonia, 836 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,040 one of the people who, one of the studio heads 837 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,040 is from there, they all went there, 838 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,480 all the voice actors are people from there. 839 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,440 It's all based off of that, and folklore, 840 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,440 and all that sort of stuff. 841 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,280 I love that, that it just opens with, 842 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,120 hey, here's a little bit about what this game is about, 843 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,520 and the things that inspire it. 844 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,280 And I know that so many of the games that we play 845 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,720 are Western made and whatever. 846 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,080 I'm not entirely sure where the Chia studio is based out of. 847 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,720 I don't think they're from New Caledonia. 848 00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:25,520 But what a fun way to start that and say, 849 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,720 hey, here's a culture that you might not know about, 850 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:29,760 and here's what you need to know about it, 851 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,160 right off the bat. 852 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,480 So that you're like, you know exactly what you need 853 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,280 to know about this game going forward. 854 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,920 I love this game, dude. 855 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,800 I was not expecting to like it so much. 856 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,800 I love this game. 857 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,640 What do you think about it? 858 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,760 It's fine. 859 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,080 Yeah, I figured you were right. 860 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,880 I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. 861 00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:52,560 I think from a cultural standpoint, 862 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,080 that's where this game shines the most. 863 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,760 I think that is clearly where, 864 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,680 what makes this game stand out from other games. 865 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,600 I think it's beautiful in a way. 866 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,320 Like when you're going through certain areas, 867 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,920 I think the colors are bright, the sound is bright, 868 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,720 everything just looks cool and looks fun and looks awesome. 869 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:17,720 But everything else about it, it's just like okay to me 870 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,520 in terms of like the moment to moment gameplay 871 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,280 that you do with it. 872 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,920 I do like that it is not overwhelmingly large, 873 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,640 but it's still large. 874 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,720 I feel like it'd be really easy to make this game 875 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:32,960 just like insurmountable with a lot of the stuff. 876 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,040 But like the tasks that you have to do, 877 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,280 the shrines that you have to do throughout it, 878 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,560 everything is like fine. 879 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,560 It's just like doesn't have the clear kind of, 880 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,400 I don't know, I mean like maybe like the Breath of the Wild, 881 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,720 what made that game stand out versus this game 882 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:58,840 is the physics system and how they really play 883 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,440 with the physics system in a unique and interesting way 884 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,080 with every aspect of that game. 885 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,600 The physics system is at the heart of it, 886 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,040 from the exploration to the puzzles to the combat. 887 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,280 Everything has to deal with its basic, 888 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,740 how you move items, how you fight people, 889 00:36:12,740 --> 00:36:15,200 how you do your weapon inventory and stuff. 890 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,480 This game, like its number one selling point 891 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,000 is kind of like you get to possess 892 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,520 almost anything you see in the world 893 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,200 and you get to explore the world with that. 894 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,760 And I feel like that is such a wasted opportunity 895 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,760 because it's come down to me either possessing 896 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,720 the first inanimate object I can see 897 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,880 so I can roll to my destination faster 898 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,220 or looking for a bird and possessing that 899 00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:41,560 so I can fly to my destination faster. 900 00:36:42,340 --> 00:36:46,200 And like there's nothing wrong with it. 901 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,480 It's just like I wish I could do more as a pigeon 902 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,160 than just have the option to poop. 903 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,960 Which is funny but you do it once and you're like oh great 904 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,200 and then you're like oh there's nothing to this I see. 905 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,880 And there's a couple things at first about it 906 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,600 that let me talk about the good stuff that it does 907 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,220 before I just talk about it's a pretty game 908 00:37:03,220 --> 00:37:04,280 that is average. 909 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,160 The way you interact with the world is like in the map 910 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,240 is like a few tweaks from being amazing. 911 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,920 Oh you think so? 912 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,740 Okay. 913 00:37:15,740 --> 00:37:16,580 Do you not? 914 00:37:16,580 --> 00:37:17,420 I love it. 915 00:37:17,420 --> 00:37:18,240 Oh okay. 916 00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:23,240 I think like I hear everything you're saying and I agree 917 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:25,360 and I will talk about it in a minute 918 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,840 but I think that it seems like what it's setting out to do 919 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,840 it is doing so wonderfully that I love it go on. 920 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:38,040 So it's a few tweaks from being amazing. 921 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,280 It was a little cumbersome at first 922 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,340 but then the more I get to use it 923 00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:42,740 the more kind of fun it is. 924 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:46,080 Can you explain just for people who haven't played it yet? 925 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,080 Basically the way the map works 926 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,440 is you literally get a map. 927 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,400 And usually in a video game you get a map 928 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,880 and you see this cursor of where you are at all times 929 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,680 in the direction you're facing going there. 930 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,360 You don't get that in this game. 931 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,760 You get the map and then you just can like scroll through it 932 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,020 and then you might find your ship 933 00:38:03,020 --> 00:38:05,000 or you have to kind of guess the general vicinity 934 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,820 of where you're at. 935 00:38:05,820 --> 00:38:07,000 There's a feature that you can just be like 936 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,320 I think I'm in this circle. 937 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,400 And they show you like a giant like quadrant of the map 938 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,240 that you could be in. 939 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:13,640 Because it's like based on like landmarks 940 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,920 and like oh near the city. 941 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,760 So like I must be here. 942 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,160 So I have to be in this large area. 943 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,720 And then throughout the world they have these signposts 944 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:20,840 that like give you directions. 945 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,000 And when you interact with the signpost 946 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,240 it will like show like a little cartoon figure of you 947 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,280 on the map where you were at that signpost. 948 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,760 And that little cartoon figure remains by that signpost 949 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,880 until you get another signpost. 950 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,600 So you still see like where you were 951 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,960 the last time you were at a signpost. 952 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,960 But you don't, that thing doesn't follow you. 953 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,780 So you never actually have like a live representation 954 00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:44,160 of where you are on the map. 955 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,680 But what you can do is you can like put a pin down somewhere 956 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,200 and that pin shows up on your compass 957 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,200 and you know the direction that you have to go. 958 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,040 They have the same thing when you have like a quest 959 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,860 that you have to go. 960 00:38:52,860 --> 00:38:55,960 The direction of that quest is shown around the compass 961 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,880 like you would in a game. 962 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,560 But like there's no like path guiding you there. 963 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,920 It gives you enough guidance 964 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,200 without giving you too much guidance. 965 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,840 But some of the things that make it cumbersome is like, 966 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,280 I don't know if I'm like looking at the map 967 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,000 and then I leave and then I come back 968 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,320 and I'm like I'll look at the map a bunch later. 969 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,120 I have to like, I'm back at the other end. 970 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,800 Like if I fast travel, the last place I'm looking, 971 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,420 the map when it opens is where I was looking last 972 00:39:23,420 --> 00:39:25,360 on the map, not where I currently am 973 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,320 or the vicinity where I currently am. 974 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,400 And it just becomes like, okay, 975 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,080 I'm gonna move this thing over here. 976 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,200 And there's just a few tweaks about it that 977 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,640 I like what it's doing. 978 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,740 I like that it makes me feel like 979 00:39:35,740 --> 00:39:36,880 I'm exploring the world better. 980 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,440 I like that it's a better map than you get 981 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,320 in Breath of the Wild, which is just icons and you go here. 982 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,360 But it's just a little cumbersome at times 983 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,780 to a point where it just annoys me slightly. 984 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,320 But it's not bad. 985 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,300 It's not like, the more you play with it, 986 00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:55,640 the more you get used to it. 987 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,640 And the more you get used to it, 988 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,740 the more you realize how it's unique and novel. 989 00:39:59,740 --> 00:40:02,600 And I think what, like the map really sells 990 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,120 a lot of the experience for me as well. 991 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,800 Because I think that like first and foremost, 992 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,140 this is a game about a place. 993 00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:10,980 You know what I mean? 994 00:40:10,980 --> 00:40:14,280 It's about, it is a love letter to these islands, right? 995 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,400 I think that the actual in-game setting is fictional. 996 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,240 It's my understanding from the beginning of the game, 997 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:21,120 it's like, this is a fictional island, 998 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,520 but it is all inspired directly by New Caledonia 999 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,580 and New Caledonian islands. 1000 00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:29,280 And basically, because the game does not say, 1001 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,520 hey, here's where you are, 1002 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,880 here's exactly where you need to go, 1003 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,800 it really makes you look at where you are. 1004 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,200 And you're like, I'm using the compass to figure out, 1005 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,680 oh no, okay, overshot. 1006 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,520 I'm at the path now. 1007 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,640 I was looking for this little stamina fruit 1008 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,760 that increases my abilities to hang on 1009 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,500 and use my paraglider. 1010 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,720 And like, it just really makes you, 1011 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:56,360 because it doesn't give you super explicit instructions 1012 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,200 as to where you are, 1013 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,480 it really makes you look around 1014 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,040 and really understand where you are 1015 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,960 and find that sense of place and go like, oh, 1016 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,400 like it makes you so familiar 1017 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,400 with the different areas of the map. 1018 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,800 I spent a lot of time in that first island, 1019 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,080 the Northern one. 1020 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,480 And so like now I know where to go, 1021 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,640 like I know where everything is on that island. 1022 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,720 Second one, the Southern island, 1023 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,560 I haven't, like I've just been sort of starting 1024 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,400 to explore that now, 1025 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,700 because like that's where more of the quest stuff is. 1026 00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:24,920 And I'm loving so much of that, 1027 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,640 of like exploring around and everything like that. 1028 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,680 And I think that there's the potential 1029 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,240 for people to sort of miss what Chia is going for 1030 00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:36,920 by saying like, oh, I'm just like, 1031 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,680 I'm becoming a bird so I can just fly 1032 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,440 exactly where I need to go. 1033 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,160 And like, yeah, but you're missing the point. 1034 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,160 You know, like, I think that I would, I agree with you. 1035 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,120 I think it's a gripe of like, well, 1036 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,520 the soul jumping stuff just isn't that interesting, right? 1037 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,800 And like the only thing to transform into really is a rock 1038 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,440 so you could just roll fast or preferably become a bird 1039 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,200 so you can fly fast, you know? 1040 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,280 But I think like, and I'm not saying that you're saying this, 1041 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,440 but I think that people could potentially miss the point 1042 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,560 of like enjoying the exploration of this place 1043 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,720 and enjoying being like put in this specific place 1044 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:15,180 and seeing all the little details 1045 00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:20,000 that I'm sure are direct references to the place. 1046 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,200 Like all the food items, you can stop and get like, 1047 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,600 like little food stands and it all looks delicious. 1048 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,640 And I assume that it's all just like directly lifted 1049 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,480 from New Caledonia Pousine, you know? 1050 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,840 When you go to like one of the shops, I think, 1051 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,280 they'll literally, you'll eat the food 1052 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,080 and they'll have the name of the dish on the, 1053 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,760 on the table underneath it. 1054 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,600 Yeah. 1055 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,440 Yeah. 1056 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,320 And like what a sweet little touch that, you know, 1057 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,320 if you're just flying over everything directly 1058 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,960 to the next objective, like you're not gonna get that. 1059 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,960 And then also I think if you're just mainlining 1060 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,080 the objectives for like the story, 1061 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,680 it's like a fun little story, I guess, 1062 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,600 but it is not like a gripping edge of your seat narrative. 1063 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,960 It's like a fairy tale, you know what I mean? 1064 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,880 Like, so I think that if you just mainline the story 1065 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,200 and fly and not spend any time in the actual world, 1066 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,600 you're gonna totally miss the point of this game. 1067 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,600 And for that reason, like for the stuff that it's doing 1068 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,080 with like just being a real love letter to a specific place 1069 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,320 and like showing me all about that place, 1070 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,400 I don't know fucking anything about New Caledonia. 1071 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,840 Now I know where it is from last week's hit box. 1072 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,760 And now I know about the food they eat. 1073 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,520 And I know that like they speak two different languages there 1074 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,360 and like, you know what I mean? 1075 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,000 Like I think it's really cool 1076 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,200 with all that sort of stuff. 1077 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,680 I'm gonna add, you gotta remember it's a fairy tale. 1078 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,800 Like it is a fairy tale, right? 1079 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,160 But I'm playing the game at the very beginning 1080 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,600 and you have this like this nice little like relaxing 1081 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,560 kind of island thing going on. 1082 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,000 And all of a sudden this helicopter made of wood and vines 1083 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,000 comes like, it looks like a goblin made it or something 1084 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,200 that it's like coming down. 1085 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,280 And then there's these like, I don't know, 1086 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,840 fabric creatures like on it like coming off. 1087 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,680 And I'm like, okay, so is everything 1088 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,040 that I just was thinking was like the New Caledonia, 1089 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,480 is it just actually just like fairy tale land? 1090 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,200 Like it like is just flirting on realism enough 1091 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,240 that it's like that modern day fantasy. 1092 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:17,960 There's a name for that, I can't think of it. 1093 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,800 Magical realism. 1094 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,920 Yeah, it's like the magical realism that is just, 1095 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,560 it just took me away from what I thought 1096 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,440 the initial point was like here's this island, 1097 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,160 but there's also these fabric monsters 1098 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,080 and this like magical thing up in the air. 1099 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,200 I think they could have easily have done that without it, 1100 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,800 but maybe where the story goes, 1101 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,320 it kind of explains that a little bit more. 1102 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,320 And maybe they are people like part of their narrative 1103 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:48,520 is about like this like magical realism in the world 1104 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,520 or something, but I don't know. 1105 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,720 It just seemed a little out of place 1106 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:52,400 when that helicopter came for the first time. 1107 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,600 And then I was taken out of like, 1108 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,480 this is just a pretty island. 1109 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,160 Yes, it's definitely like drops the, it is, 1110 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,640 you've not gotten to it yet. 1111 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,360 You go full fairy tale in certain aspects to it. 1112 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,200 Cause it is about, you know, 1113 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,840 the premise is you're trying to get your dad back 1114 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:11,840 from the bad guy. 1115 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,400 Yeah, Miavara. 1116 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,200 And can I say, and I'm not gonna spoil anything here, 1117 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,840 I think there should be an ESRB rating thing 1118 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,880 for violence against children and babies, 1119 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,440 because there's some shit that happens 1120 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,560 that is like very shocking in a game that's rated T. 1121 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,920 And I don't think it should be rated M, 1122 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,360 but I just think having something saying, 1123 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,960 hey, just so you know, 1124 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,480 violence against children in an upsetting way. 1125 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,520 And like, this is the kind of like violence too 1126 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,240 in a certain way that you get in the game. 1127 00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:49,000 Like this is maybe a light spoiler 1128 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,320 if you don't wanna hear anything about it, 1129 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,320 tune out for like 30 seconds. 1130 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,840 You have to bring a dead chicken back 1131 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,520 to like make an offering to see someone. 1132 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,440 And like the character you get the chicken from 1133 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,520 literally just cuts its head off. 1134 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:03,480 You don't see the cutoff, 1135 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,200 but you see the body of the chicken go down 1136 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,880 with its like neck bone just hanging out. 1137 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,000 And occasionally blood doing, 1138 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,480 and just keeps walking around. 1139 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,400 And they're like, oh yeah, they walk around for a while. 1140 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,520 And it's like this oddly horrific yet, 1141 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,000 they made a joke out of it thing 1142 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,160 that is just unsettling with how like sweet of a moment 1143 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,840 you just had with this other little girl. 1144 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,560 Like as you're like sitting and like taking in the sights 1145 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,120 and you just have this like gushing blood, 1146 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,480 headless chicken running around. 1147 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,240 But what I like about that though too is it's like, 1148 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:32,760 I imagine that's a cultural thing, right? 1149 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,080 Like if they're always dealing with chickens 1150 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,880 and if they're beheading chickens that they can eat 1151 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,640 or make offerings or whatever, 1152 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,920 like it's probably just a pretty passe thing for them. 1153 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,760 You know what I mean? 1154 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,440 And so for us, we're like, oh my gosh, that's so crazy. 1155 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,280 But like, I imagine if that's the case, 1156 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,600 you know what I'm trying to say? 1157 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,920 Yeah, I get that a hundred percent, 1158 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,360 but like it's played for laughter in like a weird way. 1159 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,200 Yes, 100%. 1160 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,040 In a way that it's like, whoa. 1161 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,440 It's like just disturbing enough. 1162 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,440 Like not so much that they're killing a chicken, 1163 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,280 the fact that they like just have it like run around 1164 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,440 like that with the blood coming out. 1165 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,800 Like there was a million different ways 1166 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,600 that they could have done that that didn't feel so like 1167 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,000 gory but like also funny. 1168 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,040 Like it was just, it's like a weird vibe. 1169 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,680 It's the first T rated game that I've ever seen. 1170 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,880 I'm fascinated by ESRB ratings by the way. 1171 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,920 It's the first T rated game that I've ever seen 1172 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,240 like that's rated for blood and gore. 1173 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:22,480 Cause usually you have, whenever you have gore in a game, 1174 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,480 it's like, hey, it's M rated, you know what I mean? 1175 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,280 But yeah, I love this game. 1176 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,840 It's just, it's, I think it's just so, 1177 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:38,000 it's clear that the people who made it love this place 1178 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,600 and that they were trying to make this place, you know, 1179 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,200 I've never been to New Caledonia. 1180 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,400 I may never go to New Caledonia, but like, 1181 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,880 so, you know, maybe it's not super, super accurate 1182 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,320 in terms of their portrayal. 1183 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,040 But for me, if they're saying, hey, we made this game 1184 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,840 and it's accurate, like it feels like a completely different 1185 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,280 interesting culture that I've just had a lot of fun 1186 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,000 diving deep into and just like enjoying 1187 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,840 the beauty of the game they made. 1188 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,920 Like, when talking about like people who are just gonna fly 1189 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,240 from objective to objective and go like, 1190 00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:11,080 nah, I didn't really like it. 1191 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,800 It wasn't really a good open world game. 1192 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,600 It's like, like I said, I think it's missing the point. 1193 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,120 Like I noticed recently like, oh wow, 1194 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,200 the clouds move and change. 1195 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,480 And I know that's such a small thing. 1196 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,360 And like, you know, you could say like, who cares? 1197 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,680 Like in video games, we can have a million things happen. 1198 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:28,840 Like who cares about the clouds? 1199 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,800 But I don't know, it was just like a nice, like, 1200 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,320 oh, they really thought about what the clouds 1201 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,140 would look like here. 1202 00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:36,840 And I'm sure that they took notes of how the clouds work 1203 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,160 and behave out there. 1204 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,000 You know what I'm saying? 1205 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,280 Yeah, yeah. 1206 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,720 One more kind of like, there's, it's buggy. 1207 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:45,520 I don't know how many times you or an item 1208 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,360 has gotten stuck in the world. 1209 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,200 That kind of has bothered me a little bit. 1210 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,000 Nothing like game breaking, but just like, 1211 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,960 there was a time I was sailing my boat 1212 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,880 and then I was like, there's like all these like caution 1213 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,620 signs, like as you're going through it. 1214 00:48:56,620 --> 00:48:59,400 And my boat literally got stuck on the caution sign. 1215 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,900 And you might think like, oh, if you just like turn around, 1216 00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:02,960 you can get unstuck from it. 1217 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,840 No, like there's literally the sign post 1218 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:05,680 was in the middle of it. 1219 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,520 And it would pivot around the sign post. 1220 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,820 And if you turned it to a certain thing, 1221 00:49:08,820 --> 00:49:11,980 it started to violently like shake in like a really weird, 1222 00:49:11,980 --> 00:49:12,980 funny, uncomfortable way. 1223 00:49:12,980 --> 00:49:15,880 If you are a Patreon member, I can show you the video clip 1224 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,040 I took of that. 1225 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,080 So that would be a little bit of a tease for our Patreon. 1226 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,040 But like, so there's moments like that 1227 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,920 and a couple of things get stuck occasionally and everything. 1228 00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:30,080 I feel like the combat is kind of lame at times. 1229 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,440 I think this game shouldn't have combat. 1230 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,680 It was like, you fight the cloth monsters 1231 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,600 that you were talking about earlier 1232 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,640 in these like little like, they're like four of them 1233 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,240 hanging out a little encampment. 1234 00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:40,960 And basically you soul jump into like a lantern 1235 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,640 or can of gasoline, you just fucking light them on fire. 1236 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,120 Like it adds nothing. 1237 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,760 It's like, I don't know how you do it, 1238 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,160 but I like basically go in a lantern, 1239 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,320 explode the lantern, I fly up in the air 1240 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,160 and I ragdoll to the ground. 1241 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,000 Hop to another one. 1242 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:53,820 Get to the next one. 1243 00:49:53,820 --> 00:49:56,080 The ragdolling in this game, by the way, is fucking great. 1244 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,240 She fucking brutally just like on the ground. 1245 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:02,400 It makes me laugh every time. 1246 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,280 Yeah, it's not, it's nothing. 1247 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,720 And then the boat sailing is like 1248 00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:06,940 interesting mechanic enough. 1249 00:50:06,940 --> 00:50:08,680 There's three stations on a boat 1250 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,520 that you have to deal with. 1251 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,320 You have the sail to increase the speed. 1252 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,960 You have the udder, it's not the udder. 1253 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,840 It's the rudder. 1254 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:18,680 The rudder, that's it. 1255 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,760 It's the rudder that steers it. 1256 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,960 And then you have the anchor that stops it. 1257 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,120 And like, while in theory it works, 1258 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,280 like I think that's cool. 1259 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,040 And I like that like simple immersion 1260 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,480 to like just make it not just simple 1261 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,460 like pressing A to go forward. 1262 00:50:32,460 --> 00:50:34,440 There's so many times when the, 1263 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,240 you get stuck on the wrong one, 1264 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:38,840 like I'm at the rudder and then I wanna get off of it 1265 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,400 to go to the sail so I leave it. 1266 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,800 And then I go to the sail but I haven't walked far enough 1267 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,520 and I go backwards like a couple steps 1268 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,400 to get the rudder again. 1269 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,920 Same thing with the thing. 1270 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,840 Like I get like that, like I don't not like this game. 1271 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,120 It's just like okay in terms of like 1272 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,680 the gameplay stuff from it. 1273 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,120 But like the world and stuff and the exploring and stuff. 1274 00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,200 And are you kidding me? 1275 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,040 I love Breath of the Wild. 1276 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,520 This is just more of that kind of exploring the world 1277 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,940 in a beautiful place with some nice music in the background. 1278 00:51:04,940 --> 00:51:05,840 I eat this shit up. 1279 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,840 I wish it was on the Switch. 1280 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:07,960 Thank you. 1281 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,520 He yields his time everyone. 1282 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:10,360 Thank you. 1283 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,640 I think that's all we're gonna say about Chia. 1284 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,360 If you wanna hear more, we're talking about it even more 1285 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,440 on our Patreon exclusive episode this week. 1286 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,840 Justin, let's talk about the news. 1287 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,040 Let's do it. 1288 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:22,880 Let's do it. 1289 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,880 Multi Versus, a video game that you, 1290 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,320 if I'm remembering correctly, are a pretty big fan of. 1291 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,800 So it's shutting down but wait, hold on a second. 1292 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,440 Not forever. 1293 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,160 It's closing its beta in June 1294 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,580 and then it's gonna relaunch its 1.0 later in 2024. 1295 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,200 On June 25th, the game is going down 1296 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,320 but it's not going down for good. 1297 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:57,240 It's just gonna be relaunching for its 1.0 version in 2024. 1298 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,840 As a fan of this game, Justin, 1299 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,380 and just a general video game enthusiast, 1300 00:52:06,380 --> 00:52:07,220 how do you take this news? 1301 00:52:07,220 --> 00:52:08,720 What does this make you think? 1302 00:52:09,860 --> 00:52:13,800 So if you remember just looking through news, 1303 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,460 Multi Versus player counts have been plummeting. 1304 00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:18,800 From when it first launched, 1305 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,780 it was one of the more successful free-to-play games 1306 00:52:21,780 --> 00:52:26,780 in terms of player count and now it was really, really low, 1307 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,560 concerningly low. 1308 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,920 And then all of a sudden they're like, 1309 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,680 hey, we have our open beta is shutting down 1310 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,120 and we're gonna actually launch the real game 1311 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,420 next year in early 2024. 1312 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:44,480 And to me, this seems like it wasn't the plan. 1313 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,320 It seems to me they're using this as a moment 1314 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,760 to be like, we gotta fix something. 1315 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,800 We've run out of stuff for people to be interested 1316 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,120 and engaged with it and we gotta do something else 1317 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,000 when we release the actual game. 1318 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,160 Maybe that's gonna mean it's not gonna be free-to-play. 1319 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,600 Maybe that means they're gonna be changing 1320 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,000 how they dole out content. 1321 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,840 Or maybe they just need time to catch up 1322 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,840 so they get more characters out there. 1323 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,040 But I think this is one of the problems 1324 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,360 with every company trying to chase Fortnite 1325 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,520 is that what Fortnite does that is brilliant 1326 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,120 in terms of it being one of the longest lasting 1327 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,440 free-to-play games is that nothing you get 1328 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,480 or pay for impacts gameplay at all. 1329 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,920 It is all cosmetic. 1330 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,160 It is all cosmetics you want because they're awesome. 1331 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,640 The battle passes themselves. 1332 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,880 You get cool stuff from them, 1333 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,280 but it's not like it changes your gameplay experience. 1334 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,080 You are still on the same playing field 1335 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,240 as everyone else at the start of that match. 1336 00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:46,240 That is not the case in multiverses. 1337 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,160 The more characters they unlock, 1338 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,700 the more of a paywall there is behind it, 1339 00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:54,240 the more it de-incentivizes new users from doing it 1340 00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:56,000 because it's like, oh, well, I don't have the new character. 1341 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,120 I have to pay money to do this. 1342 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,880 Well, yeah, I'm just using Superman again, whatever. 1343 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,120 I have to put all this time into it 1344 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,320 to unlock these other characters and stuff. 1345 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,520 Yeah, you can still grind to get this currency, 1346 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,040 but you don't want to grind for two weeks 1347 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,920 when a character gets released to get it 1348 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,880 just to have people stop talking about that new character 1349 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,160 because it took you forever to unlock it for free. 1350 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,120 So I think the things that stopped me from playing it 1351 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,940 were partially that. 1352 00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:20,080 I wasn't going to spend money on this 1353 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,780 because I guess I'm a bad fan. 1354 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,840 And the other thing that really killed me 1355 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,840 was I got so into, I forget what version it was, 1356 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,940 but they rebalanced everything 1357 00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:36,340 and it made characters significantly worse and changed. 1358 00:54:36,340 --> 00:54:37,560 And I'm like, I'm not the kind of person 1359 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,180 who can learn all this stuff again 1360 00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:40,540 and then plus be behind 1361 00:54:40,540 --> 00:54:41,940 because they don't have the right characters. 1362 00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:43,380 And then all of a sudden the meta is saying 1363 00:54:43,380 --> 00:54:46,460 that these paid-for characters are the better characters, 1364 00:54:46,460 --> 00:54:48,100 so I have to do those characters, 1365 00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:49,440 but I had paid for the characters 1366 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,700 that were currently the better characters, 1367 00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:53,840 or not paid for, I unlocked them with the free currency, 1368 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,060 but now they're not good anymore, 1369 00:54:55,060 --> 00:54:56,660 so I have these unlocked crappy characters 1370 00:54:56,660 --> 00:54:57,500 and all these other ones. 1371 00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:02,500 So I just think the model itself needs to be looked at 1372 00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:04,340 because yeah, free-to-play is cool. 1373 00:55:04,340 --> 00:55:05,380 It gets people in there, 1374 00:55:05,380 --> 00:55:08,100 but if you start sectioning off content like this, 1375 00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:12,380 it's not going to sustain the free-to-play audience. 1376 00:55:12,380 --> 00:55:15,420 I think it's, I don't know if we talked about this as well 1377 00:55:15,420 --> 00:55:17,660 with the closure of all of those games 1378 00:55:17,660 --> 00:55:20,540 that we were talking about two weeks ago, three weeks ago. 1379 00:55:21,540 --> 00:55:22,600 I think at a certain point, 1380 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,300 there's only so much free time that people have. 1381 00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:26,140 Right? 1382 00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:26,960 And at a certain point, 1383 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,060 people are just going to go back to Fortnite 1384 00:55:28,060 --> 00:55:28,880 because that's what they know. 1385 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:29,720 They're going to go back to Apex Legends. 1386 00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:32,660 They're going to go back to PUBG and the Call of Duty one. 1387 00:55:32,660 --> 00:55:33,500 Right? 1388 00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:34,580 Like, I don't know. 1389 00:55:34,580 --> 00:55:37,460 I don't know if there are enough people 1390 00:55:37,460 --> 00:55:39,060 who are going to be like playing this 1391 00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:41,460 for it to be able to sustain that. 1392 00:55:41,460 --> 00:55:42,460 Does that make sense? 1393 00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:48,720 And yeah, people are, I think, kind of rightfully upset, 1394 00:55:49,780 --> 00:55:50,620 basically saying that, you know, 1395 00:55:50,620 --> 00:55:53,560 it would be cool if we could get some refunds. 1396 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,780 So someone responded, I don't know who this is, 1397 00:55:56,780 --> 00:55:59,140 Wrench D, they're verified on Twitter. 1398 00:55:59,140 --> 00:55:59,980 Who are you? 1399 00:55:59,980 --> 00:56:03,060 Are you a legacy verified account? 1400 00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:06,420 So potentially, somewhat interesting. 1401 00:56:07,660 --> 00:56:08,940 Twitter fucking blows. 1402 00:56:10,540 --> 00:56:13,780 They responded to Multiverse's official Twitter account 1403 00:56:13,780 --> 00:56:16,380 that's announcing that they're closing the beta 1404 00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:17,540 by saying, can I get a refund 1405 00:56:17,540 --> 00:56:19,660 for the $100 Founder Pack in that case? 1406 00:56:21,820 --> 00:56:25,980 And people are talking about it on Reddit as well 1407 00:56:25,980 --> 00:56:27,780 because it's going off for at least six months 1408 00:56:27,780 --> 00:56:30,740 because they say it's launching in early 2024, 1409 00:56:30,740 --> 00:56:31,780 going offline in June. 1410 00:56:31,780 --> 00:56:34,220 So at least six months, it's going to be offline. 1411 00:56:34,220 --> 00:56:35,580 But then there are questions too about like, 1412 00:56:35,580 --> 00:56:37,500 is it even going to come back? 1413 00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:40,380 Like, you know, if they were having like, 1414 00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:42,100 if they were tanking in terms of player numbers 1415 00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:45,820 and stuff like that, before the game even launched, 1416 00:56:45,820 --> 00:56:47,700 like, is it even going to come back? 1417 00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:52,240 And like, you know, you look at the closure 1418 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:53,820 of all these other games and like, 1419 00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:56,140 it just seems like it's not a great space right now 1420 00:56:56,140 --> 00:56:58,980 because I think people have reached their maximum capacity 1421 00:56:58,980 --> 00:57:00,220 for the amount of these sorts of games 1422 00:57:00,220 --> 00:57:01,660 that they're willing to play. 1423 00:57:02,660 --> 00:57:03,500 I don't know. 1424 00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:05,340 Like, I'm not going to, when this, 1425 00:57:05,340 --> 00:57:07,420 if slash when this comes out again, 1426 00:57:07,420 --> 00:57:08,820 like, I'm not going to touch it. 1427 00:57:08,820 --> 00:57:12,180 Like, it just doesn't really seem like, I don't know. 1428 00:57:12,180 --> 00:57:13,020 Do you know what I'm trying to say? 1429 00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:13,940 Oh yeah, no, I know. 1430 00:57:13,940 --> 00:57:16,180 It's like, I don't know. 1431 00:57:16,180 --> 00:57:18,500 So I guess that's a good question for you. 1432 00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:20,180 Is there anything that they could do 1433 00:57:20,180 --> 00:57:21,500 to make you want to pick this up 1434 00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:23,220 when they relaunch it in 2024? 1435 00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:24,500 No. 1436 00:57:24,500 --> 00:57:27,580 And I would say things that could get me on board with it 1437 00:57:27,580 --> 00:57:29,760 are not realistic things for me to want. 1438 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,460 Things that I would love would be 1439 00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:35,420 to have more single player content, more like, you know, 1440 00:57:35,420 --> 00:57:38,540 the, one of the things that I love Smash for, 1441 00:57:38,540 --> 00:57:41,500 as stupid as it was, were those, the stickers, 1442 00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:44,340 the trophy, were these stickers that you get? 1443 00:57:44,340 --> 00:57:45,180 Or the- 1444 00:57:45,180 --> 00:57:46,000 Spirits? 1445 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,460 Spirits, yeah, the spirits. 1446 00:57:47,460 --> 00:57:49,460 I got like obsessed with getting those spirits. 1447 00:57:49,460 --> 00:57:51,100 Whenever they'd have new ones come out, 1448 00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:52,700 I'd be like, I gotta collect these. 1449 00:57:52,700 --> 00:57:54,600 That would be a complete single player thing 1450 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,620 that was just something I would go back to. 1451 00:57:56,620 --> 00:57:59,460 Even the spirit, the single player game in that, 1452 00:57:59,460 --> 00:58:02,840 again, it's stupid, but it gives you something to do, 1453 00:58:04,940 --> 00:58:06,100 yeah, it's a free to play game, 1454 00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:07,140 but it gives you something to do. 1455 00:58:07,140 --> 00:58:08,620 And it's high quality content. 1456 00:58:08,620 --> 00:58:11,180 Like, there's a lot of stuff that happens in that. 1457 00:58:11,180 --> 00:58:13,180 And I mean, oh yeah, you're just saying it's a spirit. 1458 00:58:13,180 --> 00:58:15,220 It's like a stupid like 2D cutout. 1459 00:58:15,220 --> 00:58:16,900 But they had challenges involved with all of them. 1460 00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:18,300 Whenever you get a DLC pack, 1461 00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:20,340 I look forward to looking at their spirit challenges 1462 00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:24,060 that they would have associated with those DLC characters, 1463 00:58:24,060 --> 00:58:26,600 because they would be like, they'd do creative things 1464 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,580 to get like the other characters involved. 1465 00:58:28,580 --> 00:58:30,540 This one, it is all online. 1466 00:58:30,540 --> 00:58:32,660 And when you have the game that is all online, 1467 00:58:32,660 --> 00:58:35,160 the thing that you care about is the important stuff, 1468 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,600 like which characters are viable to play online, 1469 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,900 which characters are the good characters to play. 1470 00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:42,580 And then if it turns out that some of those characters 1471 00:58:42,580 --> 00:58:44,880 are behind a paywall of any sort, 1472 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,060 or behind a grind session of any sort, 1473 00:58:47,060 --> 00:58:49,100 it's just not gonna keep people coming back to this, 1474 00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:50,740 because they're gonna go online, get their ass kicked, 1475 00:58:50,740 --> 00:58:52,840 and then be like, oh, this isn't fun. 1476 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,060 I can't even train or get better with single player, 1477 00:58:55,060 --> 00:58:56,940 because the only single player they have 1478 00:58:56,940 --> 00:58:57,980 are like some like basic, 1479 00:58:57,980 --> 00:59:00,180 like I think it's like a training mode lab, 1480 00:59:00,180 --> 00:59:03,180 I think it was in multiverses that you could do. 1481 00:59:04,140 --> 00:59:07,060 So I don't know, I mean, it would have to take a lot. 1482 00:59:07,060 --> 00:59:10,420 But I think if they would release the whole roster, 1483 00:59:10,420 --> 00:59:13,900 if they would release some single player content, 1484 00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:16,040 I might consider if it's the right price, 1485 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,860 if they have it as a price and not free to play, buying it. 1486 00:59:19,860 --> 00:59:22,520 But if it's not, and if it's something that keeps doing 1487 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,860 this like free to play model that is gonna nickel and dime 1488 00:59:24,860 --> 00:59:26,420 me to death for the rest of its lifestyle, 1489 00:59:26,420 --> 00:59:28,860 that's not gonna sustain me long term. 1490 00:59:28,860 --> 00:59:32,420 So single player and then full roster at a price 1491 00:59:32,420 --> 00:59:33,820 is what I would suggest. 1492 00:59:34,980 --> 00:59:37,660 Yeah, yeah. 1493 00:59:37,660 --> 00:59:38,500 I guess we'll see. 1494 00:59:38,500 --> 00:59:42,020 You seem so sad, you didn't even really play the game. 1495 00:59:42,020 --> 00:59:43,100 No, I'm not sad. 1496 00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:48,100 I just like, this is like, it's just, 1497 00:59:51,140 --> 00:59:52,820 it's such a weird situation. 1498 00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:57,340 And also, I mean, like I know that like games will be 1499 00:59:57,340 --> 00:59:59,300 in early access for like extended periods of time 1500 00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:00,900 before launching. 1501 01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:03,120 But like you think about like, oh my gosh, 1502 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,340 this game came like launch, this beta launch in 2022. 1503 01:00:07,340 --> 01:00:11,600 And then in 2024, the final game is coming out. 1504 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:12,440 You know what I mean? 1505 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,300 And when you think about like, truly, 1506 01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:17,100 what is actually going to be different like, 1507 01:00:17,100 --> 01:00:19,780 to anyone who's just like glancing at it, nothing, right? 1508 01:00:19,780 --> 01:00:21,780 Like for me, like someone like me, who I played it, 1509 01:00:21,780 --> 01:00:23,700 went, yeah, I don't know if this is for me. 1510 01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:26,500 And then moved on, like when this eventually does come out, 1511 01:00:26,500 --> 01:00:29,420 if it does come out, like I'm gonna have the same exact, 1512 01:00:29,420 --> 01:00:31,740 like nope, there's nothing that they could do 1513 01:00:31,740 --> 01:00:33,060 to get me into this, you know what I mean? 1514 01:00:33,060 --> 01:00:35,980 Yeah, I mean, has there ever been a situation 1515 01:00:35,980 --> 01:00:37,200 like this before? 1516 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,580 Like when a game that was like in a closed beta 1517 01:00:41,580 --> 01:00:43,420 and then I guess it was an open beta, 1518 01:00:43,420 --> 01:00:45,780 but like you could like significantly spend 1519 01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:47,660 a lot of money on this game 1520 01:00:47,660 --> 01:00:49,700 and you could put significant amounts of money in it 1521 01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:52,460 and they just take it down for six months at least. 1522 01:00:52,460 --> 01:00:53,900 I mean, I'm assuming it's going down 1523 01:00:53,900 --> 01:00:55,320 and they're gonna get out in January, 1524 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,860 which I don't think that's possible. 1525 01:00:56,860 --> 01:00:59,540 Like that seems to me like a very predatory thing 1526 01:00:59,540 --> 01:01:02,220 that I'm not like, even if this is for the best 1527 01:01:02,220 --> 01:01:03,460 of the future of this game, 1528 01:01:03,460 --> 01:01:05,020 I'm not gonna trust these people again 1529 01:01:05,020 --> 01:01:06,580 that they're not gonna do something like this. 1530 01:01:06,580 --> 01:01:10,020 And why would I ever put money back into this game 1531 01:01:10,020 --> 01:01:11,220 if they can just shut it down, 1532 01:01:11,220 --> 01:01:13,220 if it doesn't have enough players in the future? 1533 01:01:13,220 --> 01:01:15,580 Like there's no reason for me to do that. 1534 01:01:15,580 --> 01:01:18,860 I will say, they did say that all purchase items 1535 01:01:18,860 --> 01:01:22,820 and progression will be carried over for the final launch. 1536 01:01:22,820 --> 01:01:26,040 But your point remains, like it's like that, 1537 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,140 yes, good, that should be fucking, yes, you should. 1538 01:01:29,140 --> 01:01:30,340 Like that is the minimum, right? 1539 01:01:30,340 --> 01:01:33,420 But yeah, no, I think you're 100% on the money here. 1540 01:01:33,420 --> 01:01:36,780 Like, yeah, I mean, right? 1541 01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:39,980 Like it's just so fast to open and close 1542 01:01:39,980 --> 01:01:42,420 and then the question of like, 1543 01:01:42,420 --> 01:01:45,700 and not even having like, just saying early 2024, 1544 01:01:45,700 --> 01:01:47,540 you're right, it could be January 1st. 1545 01:01:47,540 --> 01:01:48,860 Or it could be. 1546 01:01:48,860 --> 01:01:51,660 Or it could be, early 2024, when does it even come, 1547 01:01:51,660 --> 01:01:53,780 like are we in early 2024, 2023? 1548 01:01:53,780 --> 01:01:55,460 I would say maybe. 1549 01:01:55,460 --> 01:01:59,420 It feels like it's 2030 has been happening forever, 1550 01:01:59,420 --> 01:02:01,260 but then it's also like only March, 1551 01:02:01,260 --> 01:02:03,260 but then I'm also like, wait, it's already March, 1552 01:02:03,260 --> 01:02:04,100 you know what I mean? 1553 01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:05,700 A thousand percent. 1554 01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:07,500 I'm very confused. 1555 01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:09,820 But right, like it's just that whole question of like, 1556 01:02:09,820 --> 01:02:14,500 we won't be seeing this game, it's full release 1557 01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:19,260 until probably around a year from right now. 1558 01:02:19,260 --> 01:02:20,540 A year from right now, 1559 01:02:20,540 --> 01:02:22,740 my life is gonna be very different, I think. 1560 01:02:22,740 --> 01:02:25,020 Like just in terms of like what my life is gonna be, 1561 01:02:25,020 --> 01:02:25,860 you know what I mean? 1562 01:02:25,860 --> 01:02:27,500 Like think about where you're gonna be a year from now. 1563 01:02:27,500 --> 01:02:29,540 Like that's crazy, you're a teacher, so you're a teacher. 1564 01:02:29,540 --> 01:02:31,940 I was like, the easy answer is that 1565 01:02:31,940 --> 01:02:33,340 my life will be different. 1566 01:02:33,340 --> 01:02:36,340 The sad answer is it might not be, and I really. 1567 01:02:36,340 --> 01:02:39,000 But like you'll have a house by then probably, right? 1568 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,300 Like think about where you were a year, 1569 01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:45,020 like think about where you were like last year right now. 1570 01:02:45,020 --> 01:02:47,580 Like I didn't have this metal ring on my finger. 1571 01:02:47,580 --> 01:02:48,400 Yeah, you weren't married. 1572 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,460 I was fucking not, like I wasn't making money doing, 1573 01:02:51,460 --> 01:02:54,140 like writing like crazy. 1574 01:02:54,140 --> 01:02:54,980 It's what I'm trying to say. 1575 01:02:54,980 --> 01:02:57,180 I didn't have a job, it was fucking crazy, man. 1576 01:02:58,580 --> 01:02:59,780 So yeah, I don't know. 1577 01:03:01,780 --> 01:03:03,340 Let's talk about Ubisoft. 1578 01:03:03,340 --> 01:03:05,580 They announced that they are not gonna be attending 1579 01:03:05,580 --> 01:03:09,180 E3 2023, and instead they're gonna be hosting 1580 01:03:09,180 --> 01:03:12,520 their own live streamed event in June. 1581 01:03:14,580 --> 01:03:17,980 This I think is a pretty big blow for E3. 1582 01:03:19,420 --> 01:03:21,380 Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony all said, 1583 01:03:21,380 --> 01:03:23,500 hey, we're not gonna be at E3 this year. 1584 01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:25,980 A lot of people are like, that is the death of E3. 1585 01:03:28,060 --> 01:03:30,260 When that was announced, I think we talked about like, 1586 01:03:30,260 --> 01:03:31,900 well, you know, you're still gonna have your EA, 1587 01:03:31,900 --> 01:03:33,100 it's probably gonna be there. 1588 01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:35,620 Ubisoft will probably be there. 1589 01:03:35,620 --> 01:03:38,180 Insert other big publisher will be there. 1590 01:03:38,180 --> 01:03:40,900 And then, you know, you got the full lineup of indie games, 1591 01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:42,500 like that's huge and everything. 1592 01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:45,580 But at this point, like, okay, Ubisoft's not gonna be there. 1593 01:03:45,580 --> 01:03:49,180 Like that is the, I think, the start of these more, 1594 01:03:49,180 --> 01:03:51,460 like these bigger publishers also sort of dipping out 1595 01:03:51,460 --> 01:03:52,300 and whatnot. 1596 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,700 What do you think? 1597 01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:56,260 I mean, I'm trying to find out like, 1598 01:03:56,260 --> 01:03:59,100 who literally is going to be at this show at this point. 1599 01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,800 Like who's going to be there? 1600 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,700 Are people gonna care? 1601 01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:08,700 Like, is Jeff Keighley going to win the presentation 1602 01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:10,340 because people are just gonna give him leaks 1603 01:04:10,340 --> 01:04:14,180 and his like award show is gonna be awesome or things. 1604 01:04:14,180 --> 01:04:18,000 Like, to me, like, what is E3 anymore? 1605 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,500 Well, I think that's the big question. 1606 01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:22,780 Also it's worth pointing out that Ubisoft said last month 1607 01:04:22,780 --> 01:04:25,160 that like, we will be going to E3. 1608 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,940 And then are now like, we are not going to E3. 1609 01:04:28,940 --> 01:04:31,360 They're gonna move in a different direction 1610 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,200 according to VDC. 1611 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,780 But yeah, no, I think you're asking the right question. 1612 01:04:34,780 --> 01:04:37,180 I think you're asking a question that E3, 1613 01:04:37,180 --> 01:04:38,940 cause who's in charge of it now? 1614 01:04:38,940 --> 01:04:40,120 It's not the ESA anymore. 1615 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:40,960 It is- 1616 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:41,800 Readpop. 1617 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,220 Readpop, yes. 1618 01:04:43,220 --> 01:04:44,620 I'm going to C2ET this weekend. 1619 01:04:44,620 --> 01:04:46,060 That's a Readpop event. 1620 01:04:46,060 --> 01:04:50,740 Like, I think that like, they need to be asking themselves, 1621 01:04:50,740 --> 01:04:54,940 what is E3 and like, what are we gonna do with E3? 1622 01:04:54,940 --> 01:04:57,860 And I think the big thing for that could potentially be like, 1623 01:04:57,860 --> 01:05:00,740 it might just have to turn into a fan thing. 1624 01:05:00,740 --> 01:05:01,580 You know what I mean? 1625 01:05:01,580 --> 01:05:03,740 Where like the big publishers just aren't really there 1626 01:05:03,740 --> 01:05:05,440 or like, you know, big publishers, 1627 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,700 some of them might be there, you know, EA might be there, 1628 01:05:07,700 --> 01:05:10,320 Activision might be there, but for the most part, 1629 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:11,560 it's gonna be more indie games. 1630 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,060 And then also just a big fan convention. 1631 01:05:15,060 --> 01:05:16,020 You know what I mean? 1632 01:05:16,020 --> 01:05:17,900 Which is weird cause you know, 1633 01:05:17,900 --> 01:05:20,140 up until this point has been an industry event. 1634 01:05:20,140 --> 01:05:20,980 You know what I mean? 1635 01:05:20,980 --> 01:05:22,860 Which is very different than a fan thing. 1636 01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:25,900 But yeah, I mean, like, I don't know. 1637 01:05:25,900 --> 01:05:29,900 Like, yeah, for Summer Games Fest, 1638 01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:31,940 one of these big publishers might join in, 1639 01:05:31,940 --> 01:05:33,500 but like Nintendo won't, you know what I mean? 1640 01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:34,860 I don't think Sony would either. 1641 01:05:34,860 --> 01:05:36,980 Sony might give them something for Summer Games Fest, 1642 01:05:36,980 --> 01:05:39,420 but like, I think Microsoft's really the only one 1643 01:05:39,420 --> 01:05:40,820 who would wanna play ball, but even then, 1644 01:05:40,820 --> 01:05:44,140 if they're having to compete against everything else, 1645 01:05:44,140 --> 01:05:45,420 then maybe they just do their own showcase 1646 01:05:45,420 --> 01:05:47,660 and let Summer Games Fest be another sort of 1647 01:05:47,660 --> 01:05:49,940 E3 type thing as well. 1648 01:05:49,940 --> 01:05:54,300 I'm gonna say like, two hats here, as a fan, this is sad. 1649 01:05:54,300 --> 01:05:57,740 As everyone else, like specifically these publishers, 1650 01:05:57,740 --> 01:05:59,420 I think this is a good thing. 1651 01:05:59,420 --> 01:06:02,660 I think there's so many times when announcements 1652 01:06:02,660 --> 01:06:07,660 have been pushed and rushed for these big media events 1653 01:06:09,460 --> 01:06:12,980 that they have that it creates unnecessary stress 1654 01:06:12,980 --> 01:06:15,900 on the studios to try to fill deadlines. 1655 01:06:15,900 --> 01:06:17,900 The studios feel like they need to have announcements 1656 01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:18,940 cause if they didn't have announcements, 1657 01:06:18,940 --> 01:06:20,220 oh no, you didn't announce anything, 1658 01:06:20,220 --> 01:06:21,860 you didn't give a date to this, oh no. 1659 01:06:21,860 --> 01:06:23,900 And then for showing something cool, 1660 01:06:23,900 --> 01:06:27,540 they get flack for it because they did not show enough. 1661 01:06:27,540 --> 01:06:29,260 And then at a certain point, what is enough? 1662 01:06:29,260 --> 01:06:31,380 Like is it everything you want to shadow drop? 1663 01:06:31,380 --> 01:06:32,700 Like is the only way to make people happy? 1664 01:06:32,700 --> 01:06:34,900 Like oh, in Breath of the Wild, you can have it right now. 1665 01:06:34,900 --> 01:06:36,620 In fact, it's already in your Switch 1666 01:06:36,620 --> 01:06:37,460 and you like open up your Switch 1667 01:06:37,460 --> 01:06:40,020 and then like the Tears of the Kingdom starts playing on it. 1668 01:06:40,020 --> 01:06:44,060 Like I think it's cool for a fan 1669 01:06:44,060 --> 01:06:45,660 to experience these press conferences, 1670 01:06:45,660 --> 01:06:47,560 but I think almost everything else about it 1671 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,280 is bad for the industry other than getting eyes on it. 1672 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,460 But like we have this thing called the internet 1673 01:06:52,460 --> 01:06:55,380 and guess what, eyes get on things now, 1674 01:06:55,380 --> 01:06:58,180 whether we have E3 or not. 1675 01:06:58,180 --> 01:07:01,140 So I think if anything, it's stopping these companies 1676 01:07:01,140 --> 01:07:03,380 from feeling like they have to announce things 1677 01:07:03,380 --> 01:07:07,040 that aren't coming out like that close too soon. 1678 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,340 And then we have more delays and things get pushed back. 1679 01:07:10,340 --> 01:07:12,580 And I think we're just in a world where things, 1680 01:07:12,580 --> 01:07:14,280 it's harder to stick to a schedule. 1681 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,580 It's not smart to stick to a schedule. 1682 01:07:16,580 --> 01:07:19,700 And when you don't have clear dates on stuff 1683 01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:21,260 and when things are getting released, 1684 01:07:21,260 --> 01:07:25,780 these press conferences only create more resentment 1685 01:07:25,780 --> 01:07:27,740 between the consumer and the publishers. 1686 01:07:27,740 --> 01:07:29,940 So I think this makes sense. 1687 01:07:29,940 --> 01:07:31,620 Do a press conference when you're ready. 1688 01:07:31,620 --> 01:07:33,540 You can control the, it's cheaper, 1689 01:07:33,540 --> 01:07:37,020 you can control the message and you can control when it is. 1690 01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:40,100 I think the one thing that's really gonna hurt 1691 01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:41,440 with that sort of change though, 1692 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,120 this sort of change is indie devs and publishers 1693 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,660 because so much networking was going on behind the scenes 1694 01:07:47,660 --> 01:07:48,500 with that sort of stuff. 1695 01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:49,320 You know what I mean? 1696 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:50,420 Like if you're an indie developer, 1697 01:07:50,420 --> 01:07:55,500 like how do you get in the door to be like, 1698 01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:57,640 put on Game Pass, to find a publisher, 1699 01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:58,480 you know what I mean? 1700 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:03,480 Like E3 I think did a lot for those types of people 1701 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,820 of just saying like, hey, we're gonna be, 1702 01:08:06,820 --> 01:08:09,180 we're gonna jump in and do this. 1703 01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:11,340 I'm meeting you, hey, I've got a game, come play our game. 1704 01:08:11,340 --> 01:08:12,780 Okay, cool, we're gonna publish your game. 1705 01:08:12,780 --> 01:08:13,620 You know what I mean? 1706 01:08:13,620 --> 01:08:16,540 And so the death of that, the death of in-person events 1707 01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:18,780 for that sort of networking industry stuff I think 1708 01:08:18,780 --> 01:08:22,000 is probably going to maybe impact things 1709 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,140 not in a very super public way, but still impact them. 1710 01:08:24,140 --> 01:08:26,900 Well, I mean, even like, there's still gaming events 1711 01:08:26,900 --> 01:08:28,380 and stuff that are out there. 1712 01:08:29,540 --> 01:08:32,220 The things that are happening that still allow 1713 01:08:32,220 --> 01:08:33,040 for that kind of stuff. 1714 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,980 Didn't GDC just happen? 1715 01:08:34,980 --> 01:08:38,120 Yeah, it's not completely gone, but you're saying, 1716 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,220 okay, listen, we are in, you know, 1717 01:08:40,220 --> 01:08:42,820 this indie development company studio, 1718 01:08:44,140 --> 01:08:47,420 we have created a Ford for two people 1719 01:08:47,420 --> 01:08:49,480 to go to one conference this year. 1720 01:08:49,480 --> 01:08:50,400 Where do we go? 1721 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,200 The answer used to be E3, no matter what, right? 1722 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,060 Now it's like, do we go to GDC? 1723 01:08:55,060 --> 01:08:55,900 Do we go to PAX? 1724 01:08:55,900 --> 01:08:59,740 You know, like, there's not like the one big one 1725 01:08:59,740 --> 01:09:02,740 that makes sense because you know all of the big people 1726 01:09:02,740 --> 01:09:04,300 are gonna be there to do whatever. 1727 01:09:04,300 --> 01:09:05,140 Do you know what I'm saying? 1728 01:09:05,140 --> 01:09:06,340 Yeah, yeah, no, yeah. 1729 01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:07,180 And I don't think you're wrong. 1730 01:09:07,180 --> 01:09:09,740 Like, obviously, yes, this isn't like the death of all 1731 01:09:09,740 --> 01:09:10,940 industry events and whatever, 1732 01:09:10,940 --> 01:09:13,780 but I think it is still potentially kind of tricky. 1733 01:09:13,780 --> 01:09:16,100 Well, and I was just gonna add too, 1734 01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:19,980 but like, think about how many times in these, 1735 01:09:19,980 --> 01:09:21,860 like summer game fest digital things 1736 01:09:21,860 --> 01:09:24,440 that they still are able to highlight these indie games 1737 01:09:24,440 --> 01:09:25,280 to get them there. 1738 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,220 Well, yeah, you don't necessarily get the networking 1739 01:09:27,220 --> 01:09:29,980 with the adults talking to adults. 1740 01:09:29,980 --> 01:09:33,900 You get at least their names out there 1741 01:09:33,900 --> 01:09:37,180 for people to see and still can get interest and stuff. 1742 01:09:37,180 --> 01:09:38,540 I just think we're moving to a place 1743 01:09:38,540 --> 01:09:40,500 where digital marketing is way more important 1744 01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:45,000 and cheaper and efficient than in-person marketing, 1745 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:46,960 which might be an interesting transition 1746 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,820 for the next story you're about to mention. 1747 01:09:49,820 --> 01:09:51,940 Yeah, and it's interesting, like, 1748 01:09:51,940 --> 01:09:54,660 for the same counters that I'm gonna have 1749 01:09:54,660 --> 01:09:57,900 for this next story, it's like, you're probably right. 1750 01:09:57,900 --> 01:09:59,240 Like, it is probably more efficient, 1751 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:00,540 more cost effective, whatever, 1752 01:10:00,540 --> 01:10:04,300 but there is something that you miss out on 1753 01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:07,420 when you have a large group of people in the same room, 1754 01:10:07,420 --> 01:10:10,040 right, like, that are all seeing this thing 1755 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,080 for the first time or all being able to actually play 1756 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,360 the demo for the first time and you're able to see, 1757 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,980 watch them in person do whatever, you know what I mean? 1758 01:10:16,980 --> 01:10:21,820 We were, I was at a state competition 1759 01:10:21,820 --> 01:10:24,700 and they had a state winning film, short film, 1760 01:10:24,700 --> 01:10:26,580 like a five minute short film being played. 1761 01:10:26,580 --> 01:10:29,220 And like, you know, you can watch it yourself, 1762 01:10:29,220 --> 01:10:30,780 you can judge it yourself, you can see it yourself, 1763 01:10:30,780 --> 01:10:32,780 but they played it in an auditorium 1764 01:10:32,780 --> 01:10:35,580 filled with 850 high schoolers. 1765 01:10:35,580 --> 01:10:39,620 And the reactions that the film got were like amazing. 1766 01:10:39,620 --> 01:10:41,740 Like, they laughed at every part 1767 01:10:41,740 --> 01:10:43,760 they were supposed to laugh at, they clapped at the end, 1768 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,060 just like having those emotions about the in-person thing. 1769 01:10:46,060 --> 01:10:48,380 And I know 100%, I'm a communications guy, 1770 01:10:48,380 --> 01:10:51,500 I'm a communication, I got a master's in communication, 1771 01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:54,820 like I do communication, you know, 90% of my days. 1772 01:10:54,820 --> 01:10:56,540 I think there is definitely face to face stuff 1773 01:10:56,540 --> 01:11:01,420 that's important, that is huge, that is like industry, 1774 01:11:01,420 --> 01:11:03,540 like that is important for any industry that you're in, 1775 01:11:03,540 --> 01:11:05,060 not just video games or anything, 1776 01:11:05,060 --> 01:11:08,620 but money is also a factor. 1777 01:11:09,940 --> 01:11:10,860 A thousand percent. 1778 01:11:10,860 --> 01:11:15,600 And I will say, like, I will say that, you know, 1779 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,660 for in terms of like funding and whatever, 1780 01:11:17,660 --> 01:11:20,180 like it is tough to figure out where to go, 1781 01:11:20,180 --> 01:11:25,180 what to do, whatever, but Ubisoft has a new AI writing tool 1782 01:11:28,420 --> 01:11:33,420 that it debuted and showed off at GDC called Ghostwriter, 1783 01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:38,500 where basically it is an AI tool that helps them write, 1784 01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:45,140 like non-cinematic, like NPC barks, if that makes sense. 1785 01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:47,500 So like you're walking on the street 1786 01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:49,380 and you get someone going like, hey, I'm walking here, 1787 01:11:49,380 --> 01:11:51,180 like that sort of like dialogue. 1788 01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:56,180 It's not for like lore or for like flavor texts 1789 01:11:56,460 --> 01:11:59,980 that you're gonna find or for like actual stories 1790 01:11:59,980 --> 01:12:01,140 or cinematics or anything like that. 1791 01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:03,740 It's more of just like for additional dialogue 1792 01:12:03,740 --> 01:12:05,020 and stuff like that. 1793 01:12:05,020 --> 01:12:07,380 And so Ghostwriter was shown off at GDC 1794 01:12:09,180 --> 01:12:12,940 and it has had a pretty negative response. 1795 01:12:12,940 --> 01:12:15,620 And listen, like I'm on board of the idea of like, 1796 01:12:15,620 --> 01:12:17,940 hey, fucking invest in real writers, 1797 01:12:17,940 --> 01:12:21,660 invest in real people to write and stuff like that. 1798 01:12:21,660 --> 01:12:24,260 But it seems that there's more to the story 1799 01:12:24,260 --> 01:12:27,500 than just saying this is an AI writing tool 1800 01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:32,500 because Ubisoft LaForge researcher, Ben Swanson, 1801 01:12:32,980 --> 01:12:35,180 who is the person who was showing it off at GDC 1802 01:12:36,260 --> 01:12:39,860 really emphasized like it still requires people to use. 1803 01:12:39,860 --> 01:12:41,780 I don't know, I'm not smart enough to understand 1804 01:12:41,780 --> 01:12:44,860 how like chat generators work and stuff like that. 1805 01:12:44,860 --> 01:12:47,020 I'm hesitant to call them like AI because they're not, 1806 01:12:47,020 --> 01:12:50,780 right, like chat GBT is not an AI, it is a chat bot. 1807 01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:52,860 It's not thinking, right? 1808 01:12:52,860 --> 01:12:54,880 It is just regurgitating text. 1809 01:12:55,980 --> 01:12:57,420 And that's what this is. 1810 01:12:57,420 --> 01:13:01,180 So I'm not entirely sure how this will impact people's jobs 1811 01:13:01,180 --> 01:13:03,900 and stuff like that, but it seems like it's the sort of thing 1812 01:13:03,900 --> 01:13:06,740 that could be used to just make the process 1813 01:13:06,740 --> 01:13:09,540 of coming up with that additional dialogue 1814 01:13:09,540 --> 01:13:11,220 a little bit easier. 1815 01:13:11,220 --> 01:13:14,680 That said, if you told me that all of the Ubisoft games 1816 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,180 for the past five years, five, 10 years 1817 01:13:17,180 --> 01:13:20,620 have been written by AI, I would have believed you 1000%. 1818 01:13:20,620 --> 01:13:22,300 I would have been like yep, that tracks. 1819 01:13:22,300 --> 01:13:23,420 What do you think of this? 1820 01:13:23,420 --> 01:13:27,260 I think this is, folks, the genie is out of the bottle 1821 01:13:27,260 --> 01:13:28,100 with this stuff. 1822 01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:28,920 It's not going back. 1823 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,020 People are only gonna keep iterating 1824 01:13:31,020 --> 01:13:34,360 and the first company that can accurately make 1825 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,340 a dialogue generator AI is gonna make a lot of money, 1826 01:13:37,340 --> 01:13:39,760 whether that's Ubisoft, whether that's Microsoft, 1827 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,060 whether that's some company that we don't even know about 1828 01:13:42,060 --> 01:13:43,000 that exists yet. 1829 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:47,600 There's money in this and it's gonna only keep happening 1830 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:48,800 and keep getting better. 1831 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:54,760 I understand the negatives about it, the human cost to it, 1832 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,880 and I think a lot of people who counter like, 1833 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:03,320 well, you still need smart people to be able to input 1834 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:07,560 into this generator to get good results. 1835 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,960 You almost need to have a programming language 1836 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,240 that you create in order to get the right results 1837 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,520 out of this stuff. 1838 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,920 That's where we're at with this now. 1839 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,800 I mean, eventually, the longer this stuff goes, 1840 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,640 the less you're gonna have to be that specific with it. 1841 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,840 We talked about this on one of our bonus episodes 1842 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,720 for Patreon subscribers in which we actually were writing 1843 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:32,720 scripts and stuff using Chat GBT and a lot of it's basic, 1844 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,080 but I remember using the CRAN AI, 1845 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,160 which was the, you can make pictures of stuff. 1846 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,200 I used it last summer and the pictures you got from it 1847 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,680 were weird and blobby and not good. 1848 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:47,960 Have you tried that recently? 1849 01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:51,360 Because it's still blobby, but it's better. 1850 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,880 And every iteration of this stuff, 1851 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,040 it's only gonna get better and eventually, 1852 01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,080 this is something that, ironic that Ubisoft is doing this, 1853 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,360 but this is something that can help smaller studios 1854 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,120 compete with bigger studios to have a studio 1855 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,000 of three people will be able to have a team of people 1856 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,400 working behind them that are computers 1857 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,320 that can help create dialogue and stories and worlds 1858 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,920 that they couldn't do otherwise. 1859 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,680 And I'm not saying that this is a good thing 1860 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,120 and there's definitely a real human issue 1861 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,240 that's going to be coming up with this stuff, 1862 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,600 but I always reckon it to the same thing that happened 1863 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,440 when computers were invented. 1864 01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:31,760 People were afraid of computers when they first invented. 1865 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,720 Can you imagine your life without a computer now? 1866 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:35,760 Right, right. 1867 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,480 And it changed jobs. 1868 01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:40,560 It probably replaced some jobs. 1869 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,360 Heck, I was replaced by a machine at one point 1870 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,160 when I was working at the movie theater. 1871 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,840 Like I used to be a projectionist and then eventually, 1872 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,800 they had a computer do all that stuff 1873 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,080 so I didn't have to run film anymore. 1874 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,800 So I don't know, I think my opinion about all of this stuff 1875 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:01,800 is that it's going to change industries. 1876 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,160 That doesn't mean it's going to replace the need for humans 1877 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:06,880 in certain places. 1878 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,600 How we interact with it is going to always be important. 1879 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,240 But yeah, it's a weird, interesting precipice 1880 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,440 that we're on, a starting point 1881 01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:18,960 of something new and interesting. 1882 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:20,920 I'm fascinated by where it's going. 1883 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,920 Not in terms of like, I think it's the best thing ever, 1884 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:29,920 but it's just, this is a technological jump 1885 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,240 in our society in a way that whatever comes next, 1886 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:34,200 it's already happening. 1887 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,240 We gotta just look, adapt, and react. 1888 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,760 Yeah, and I think that the general nervousness 1889 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,280 that a lot of people have towards this stuff 1890 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,000 is very warranted, especially with a studio like Ubisoft 1891 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:51,000 who I think is fine cutting corners in certain regards, 1892 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,040 you know what I mean, and saying fine looking at things 1893 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,920 and going like, okay, we're just gonna scrap these people 1894 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,240 because we got AI to do this job now, right? 1895 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,720 I think automation, like you said, 1896 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,360 does replace jobs and whatever, 1897 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,240 and I think it's just something to be cautious of 1898 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,080 and wary of. 1899 01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:12,280 But this one in particular, I think it's a little too early 1900 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,560 to know what sort of ramifications it's going to have. 1901 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,720 Obviously, it's Ubisoft's job as the producer 1902 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,000 of this new tech to go like, no, no, no, it'll all be fine. 1903 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,200 Don't worry, this will not impact anyone's jobs. 1904 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,920 That's their job right now to make sure 1905 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,120 that people are comfortable enough to be interested in it. 1906 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,840 But yeah, we'll see, we'll see. 1907 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,360 I think a funny thing too is that it's Ubisoft, 1908 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,480 as you joked, it's not like their writing is great 1909 01:17:38,480 --> 01:17:42,920 to begin with, it's indistinguishable from AI stuff. 1910 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,520 No offense to the writers on Ubisoft projects. 1911 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,360 But can you imagine if Naughty Dog came out and did this, 1912 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,040 we're creating their next Last of Us, 1913 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,160 and not only will you see Ellie put on a shirt 1914 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,040 and every character take off all their clothing 1915 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,560 and put it back on perfectly, 1916 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,560 you will also have dialogue written by an AI. 1917 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,080 You know, like. But it'll just be like 1918 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,280 the fucking Chad GBT stuff that we came up with 1919 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,040 is like, hello Ellie, how are you doing today? 1920 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,920 And it's like, I am good, how are you doing today? 1921 01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:12,600 And it's like, I am also good. 1922 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,960 Well, but you know, programming jobs 1923 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,280 weren't really a thing 70 years ago. 1924 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,480 Like if you were a programmer that was such a niche field, 1925 01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:26,800 now programming is like a huge job, 1926 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,520 a huge market that came up from this stuff. 1927 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,040 So I don't know, be wary, but this is not the end. 1928 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,920 This is just a change. 1929 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,880 As I will say, as a writer specifically, 1930 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,600 this sort of stuff always makes me nervous 1931 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,080 just because executives do not see the appeal. 1932 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,080 Like they just don't understand the value 1933 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:47,960 of having human beings read and write 1934 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,560 and connect and talk to other people. 1935 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,040 They're like, well, if an AI can just write this, 1936 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:54,880 we'll just do that. 1937 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,640 And like, oh no. 1938 01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,200 No, it's really important to have a human being 1939 01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,760 who has a memory and has context 1940 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,360 and is able to interpret and analyze something. 1941 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:03,200 Yeah. 1942 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,760 I don't wanna be this guy, but. 1943 01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:05,600 Be this guy. 1944 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,000 I would say you are an exceptional worker. 1945 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,720 Do you ever look around at your coworkers sometimes 1946 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:15,560 and note that they are not as exceptional as you? 1947 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,920 I refuse to talk poorly about anyone I work with, but yes. 1948 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,400 Yeah, I mean, yeah, right. 1949 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,720 I think that there's always people, 1950 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,440 I'm not saying that this is necessarily me, 1951 01:19:24,440 --> 01:19:26,080 but I always think that there are gonna be people 1952 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,720 who are willing to go above and beyond for something 1953 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,640 and people who are willing to just sort of coast. 1954 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,760 And I'm not trying to say that, again, 1955 01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,280 I'm not, that's me sometimes. 1956 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:37,880 When I worked for fucking old Navy, that was me. 1957 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,040 You know what I mean? 1958 01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,720 I'm here to get paid and whatever, and that's fine. 1959 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,600 And there are people who work similar jobs to me 1960 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:45,760 who do the same thing, right? 1961 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:46,600 There's nothing wrong with that. 1962 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,400 It's not a moral judgment or anything like that, 1963 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:49,400 but totally. 1964 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:51,360 Yeah. 1965 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:56,040 So, Justin, Microsoft, you know them, we know them. 1966 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,400 Do they have an AI yet? 1967 01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,480 No, no, no, a new one just popped up, Google Bar. 1968 01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:07,160 Yeah, I'm actually on that beta, so. 1969 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:08,000 Are you really? 1970 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,200 You know what I mean? 1971 01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,720 Tell me what you think about it when off air. 1972 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,400 Because I was writing about it today, or yesterday, 1973 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,640 just like, hey, you can sign up for this now. 1974 01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,640 It has some difficulty. 1975 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,000 It has some difficulty. 1976 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,320 Fucking, when they showed it off in February, 1977 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,240 just straight up answered a question incorrectly. 1978 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:28,920 It was like, who discovered this? 1979 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,240 It's a planet thing. 1980 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,040 And they just didn't have the answer. 1981 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,200 Just like, Google it, man. 1982 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,800 Microsoft, no, they are discontinuing 1983 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,960 their $1 Game Pass trial. 1984 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,840 If you remember, it was $1 for three months 1985 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:50,840 of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, which is awesome. 1986 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,400 And it was three months, right? 1987 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:54,280 $1 for three months? 1988 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:55,760 Yeah. 1989 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,080 Or maybe, no, it was just $1 for one month. 1990 01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:58,360 For the first month. 1991 01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,040 Yeah, and then it kicks off in full. 1992 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,600 But, yeah, this is kind of interesting. 1993 01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,400 I know a lot of people are a little bit worried 1994 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,760 about Microsoft right now with the Activision Blizzard deal 1995 01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,120 that they're trying to acquire and whatnot, 1996 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,560 in terms of, I know people are very wary of, 1997 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,640 oh, is Xbox becoming a monopoly or not? 1998 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,080 We answered that in an episode. 1999 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:21,120 So we finally did it. 2000 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,960 They've been asking us for so long 2001 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,200 and we finally answered it. 2002 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,640 We gave the definitive answer to that question. 2003 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,080 I'm obviously being facetious. 2004 01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,520 But now we've talked about that pretty much at length. 2005 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,400 But I think it's good right now to be a little wary 2006 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,400 of the way Microsoft is conducting its business 2007 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,520 and the way it's charging for its services. 2008 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,560 But I think they had a pretty solid response to this. 2009 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:43,960 Basically, Diverge reached out to them 2010 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:48,960 and Kerry Perez, head of global communications at Xbox, 2011 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,480 said, we stopped our previous introductory offer 2012 01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:54,880 for Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and PC Game Pass 2013 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,160 and are evaluating different marketing promotions 2014 01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:58,720 for new members in the future. 2015 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,720 Again, I think it's important and worth it 2016 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,840 to be looking at what Microsoft is doing 2017 01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,880 and looking at what any of these companies are doing 2018 01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,440 for their promotions and whatever. 2019 01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:12,480 But it's not unheard of or even unusual 2020 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:16,240 for a company to stop offering a promotion. 2021 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,360 They just, at a certain point, they just do, right? 2022 01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:23,880 And I think for a deal as $1 for a month of Game Pass, 2023 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,640 at a certain point, yeah, that is an X. 2024 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,840 The deal of Game Pass just gets better and better and better. 2025 01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,080 I imagine at a certain point they're gonna say, 2026 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:32,200 we gotta stop doing this. 2027 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:33,760 Peter, do you know how easy it is 2028 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,720 to make a new email address? 2029 01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,480 Let me try right now. 2030 01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:41,320 So while you're- 2031 01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:42,800 It's actually pretty easy. 2032 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,600 While you're doing that, it is really easy 2033 01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,840 to make a new email address. 2034 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,240 And I'm not saying that everyone did this, 2035 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,200 but I'm sure they see numbers and I'm sure they see 2036 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,600 that a lot of the times, 2037 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,400 who are people playing these new games? 2038 01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,320 I'm sure they did a cost benefit analysis 2039 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,440 and were like, a lot of these people are just using this 2040 01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:03,200 to play a game when it comes out for the first month 2041 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:04,760 and then canceling Game Pass. 2042 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:05,880 I'm sure that's not everyone. 2043 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:07,600 I'm sure for every 10 of those people, 2044 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,480 one person forgets to cancel and they're on it 2045 01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:11,760 for another couple months or whatever. 2046 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,240 Yeah, I'm still on the PlayStation, the premium, 2047 01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,640 whatever it is, the highest tier of that that I don't use. 2048 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,840 Yeah, but you got 30 fucking bucks out of it for a cheetah. 2049 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,440 That's true, but I don't need to be on the one 2050 01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:23,360 that gives you the old PlayStation classics. 2051 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,920 I have not touched Ape Escape, so I don't know why I'm there, 2052 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:26,960 but I still have it. 2053 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:29,560 I saw the auto renew a couple months back 2054 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,200 and I got really sad. 2055 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,600 I was like, there's always nothing I could do about this. 2056 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:35,520 Yeah. 2057 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,160 But I'm sure they see that and they do that 2058 01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,080 because they noted that it's something 2059 01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:41,960 that is probably losing the money 2060 01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,320 and they're still businesses. 2061 01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,000 I know it's a great thing for a consumer, 2062 01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,160 but it's still a business 2063 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:49,480 and they're still trying to make money. 2064 01:23:49,480 --> 01:23:51,280 And I'm sure if anything, 2065 01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,040 what does Microsoft want people to do? 2066 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:53,880 Play Game Pass. 2067 01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:54,840 They'll come up with something 2068 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,840 to get people to play Game Pass 2069 01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,800 because I guess apparently the awesome catalog 2070 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,040 of games isn't enough. 2071 01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:06,680 Hey, for $9 or maybe it's $10, whatever. 2072 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:07,800 And it's even less than that 2073 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,360 if you're just getting Xbox Game Pass, 2074 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,120 if you don't need Game Pass Ultimate. 2075 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,080 Play Hi-Fi Rush. 2076 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:16,560 It's pretty good. 2077 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,360 For nine fucking dollars, it's pretty good, y'all. 2078 01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:23,000 So, I was looking for a game for my wife 2079 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,680 to play on Game Pass this morning 2080 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:27,040 and I had a bunch of stuff downloaded 2081 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,920 that either she had played in the past 2082 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,040 or I thought she'd want to play. 2083 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,320 Turns out all of those games I had downloaded 2084 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,600 are no longer on Game Pass. 2085 01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:37,440 Yeah, that'll happen. 2086 01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:39,960 And quite a significant amount of them. 2087 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,160 So then I went on the PlayStation Premium 2088 01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,680 and almost every game that was off of Game Pass 2089 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,120 was on the Premium for PlayStation, 2090 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:53,800 which I thought was pretty funny in the world we live in. 2091 01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:57,520 One of them was Spiritfarer was a good one. 2092 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,560 But awesome game, by the way. 2093 01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:05,640 I don't know Claire's gaming habits at all. 2094 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,720 And I also don't know if this is on console Game Pass, 2095 01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,960 but I'm just scrolling through PC Game Pass right now. 2096 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,760 And Elena got a lot out of Frog Detective. 2097 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,560 Oh, okay, I'll look at that. 2098 01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,040 It's three games, they're very, very short and simple. 2099 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,880 The How Long to Beat thing is three hours 2100 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,080 for the main story of the Frog Detective colon, 2101 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:28,880 the entire mystery, which is all three games. 2102 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,520 Is that anything like Frog Fractions? 2103 01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:32,360 No. 2104 01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:33,200 That's disappointing to hear. 2105 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,240 But Frog Fractions is excellent. 2106 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,320 Yeah, I don't know what kind of game she's into. 2107 01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,440 She's currently, she found Power Wash Simulator 2108 01:25:44,440 --> 01:25:46,920 and that is exactly up her alley. 2109 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,280 That is a good ass game. 2110 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,160 I don't know how into Disney she is, 2111 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,360 but I know that Disney Dreamlight Valley is, 2112 01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,680 I know a lot of people are hooked on that. 2113 01:25:55,680 --> 01:26:00,680 Well, I mean, she played a lot of Disneyland Adventures, 2114 01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:03,000 that one. 2115 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:03,840 Oh, yeah, yeah. 2116 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,200 Yeah, she was really into that one. 2117 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,720 Hasn't really got the bug for Dreamlight Valley yet, but. 2118 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,160 I'm also, I'm just browsing. 2119 01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,960 Wait, wait, wait, what did you say? 2120 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:13,240 She said it was scary. 2121 01:26:14,440 --> 01:26:15,560 Disney Dreamlight Valley? 2122 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:16,680 Why was it scary? 2123 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:20,880 She didn't like the wizard, she said. 2124 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,720 So if anyone's played the game 2125 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,200 and you think the wizard is scary. 2126 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,040 No fucking context for that. 2127 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,400 That's fucking awesome. 2128 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,360 I'm also, by the way, scrolling through 2129 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:33,760 the powerful women of Game Pass. 2130 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:34,920 It's just like a playlist 2131 01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,520 of a bunch of different games on here. 2132 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:40,080 And I think this is like a cool thing to include. 2133 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:41,360 But sometimes it makes me laugh 2134 01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:42,840 about like the inclusions that are on here. 2135 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:43,920 It's like, obviously you get, you know, 2136 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,640 your Life is Strange True Colors, 2137 01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,880 Hellblade, you know, Frog Detective, 2138 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,880 you know, my friend Peppa Pig. 2139 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,480 I saw that. 2140 01:26:55,480 --> 01:26:56,600 Hey, what's wrong with Peppa Pig? 2141 01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,240 That was actually my nephew's first video game 2142 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:00,080 that he played. 2143 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:00,920 Peepa. 2144 01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:01,760 I've heard this game is great, by the way. 2145 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:02,960 Yeah, that was the first game he played. 2146 01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,400 He got to customize his character. 2147 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:05,720 It looked adorable. 2148 01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,920 I'm not knocking Peppa Pig. 2149 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,320 I'm just, it's just like fucking powerful women, Peppa Pig. 2150 01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,280 I just realized Peppa Pig was a woman 2151 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,480 now that we've had this conversation. 2152 01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:19,880 Psychonauts 2 is on here 2153 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,600 and there are like powerful women in the game, 2154 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:25,080 but it's interesting, interesting. 2155 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:26,160 I wonder where it qualifies. 2156 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:27,920 Because to me, it seems like these are all like protagonists. 2157 01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:29,080 You can play as women. 2158 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:31,080 I don't know. 2159 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,200 Yeah. 2160 01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:33,040 I'm clear. 2161 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:33,880 Is Peppa Pig a woman? 2162 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:34,720 I have no idea. 2163 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,800 I just, I'm assuming that you said that. 2164 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:37,640 Maybe not. 2165 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:38,520 I didn't even know. 2166 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,440 I don't even know what Peppa Pig sounds like. 2167 01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:42,280 Peepa. 2168 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,880 She's, they're Australian. 2169 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,160 Oi? 2170 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:47,000 Peepa. 2171 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:47,840 Oh. 2172 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,680 They had to take an episode off air 2173 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:54,600 because it like taught kids that like, 2174 01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,080 hey, spiders are friends. 2175 01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,440 And then like, no, not in Australia. 2176 01:27:59,440 --> 01:28:01,320 Do you remember when I sent you that video 2177 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,040 about the flying spider currents? 2178 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,000 And I was like, are these real? 2179 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:04,840 And you said yes. 2180 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,880 And I never want to go to Australia. 2181 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,080 Yeah, they are real. 2182 01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,480 I never encountered them. 2183 01:28:09,480 --> 01:28:10,880 I think they're a Northern thing. 2184 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:11,800 I was in the South. 2185 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,200 So to be clear, they're literally just like spiders 2186 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:15,680 that get caught up in updrafts 2187 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,400 and then the updraft stops and they just fall? 2188 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,600 Well, you think about like, 2189 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,200 you got a lot of spiders in one place, right? 2190 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,200 And you get like, they're all like on their webs 2191 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:25,960 and whatever, and then you get a bunch of wind, 2192 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,640 like fly through the webs and the webs break 2193 01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,040 and then they all sort of float around 2194 01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,200 and then they come down, right? 2195 01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,000 And people like walk through those? 2196 01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,480 I don't, I imagine you would try not to. 2197 01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:40,960 Oh gosh, I just imagined doing that. 2198 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,720 I imagine you try not to, but, 2199 01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:46,880 I'll say this about the Australians. 2200 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,840 They just think a lot of random stuff is very passe 2201 01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:51,880 that's fucking crazy. 2202 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:56,880 I'm like, I'm not gonna do that. 2203 01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:01,880 In Cairns, it's in Queensland. 2204 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:03,160 It's like Northeastern. 2205 01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,560 It's where like, you go to swim in the Great Barrier Reef. 2206 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,440 At night, flying, I don't know, 2207 01:29:12,440 --> 01:29:16,320 maybe 12 to 24 inches above your head 2208 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,880 are just giant hoards of like two foot long vampire bats. 2209 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,920 Not vampire bats, flying foxes. 2210 01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:23,760 No. 2211 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,360 And they're cool, they don't bother you, 2212 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,000 they're just flying around and they're just screeching 2213 01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:28,200 and screaming the whole time. 2214 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,440 And the first night I was there, I went into my hotel 2215 01:29:30,440 --> 01:29:33,640 and I was like, hey, something is going on. 2216 01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:35,920 And they're like, what? 2217 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,440 I asked, is this regular? 2218 01:29:38,440 --> 01:29:39,880 And they're like, what do you mean? 2219 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,680 They were like, what do you mean by that? 2220 01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,520 And I was like, okay, so the fact that you are 2221 01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,200 completely unfazed by this means, yes, this is regular. 2222 01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:49,040 Oh no. 2223 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,880 Yeah, so peep-a, peep-a-peek. 2224 01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,520 Justin, that's all I got in terms of the news. 2225 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,760 What do you say we wrap this bad boy up here? 2226 01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,560 Yeah, let's wrap her up. 2227 01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:03,280 Actually, I know that people will be upset 2228 01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,440 because you said that you're watching anime 2229 01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:07,640 or something earlier and then you were like, 2230 01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:09,120 we'll talk about that later and then we didn't. 2231 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:12,280 So tell me about anime. 2232 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,880 Oh, I mean, so I just finished watching 2233 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,280 the season six finale of My Hero Academia. 2234 01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:19,120 Is it good? 2235 01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,480 I mean, it's like setting up. 2236 01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:23,200 Is season six good in general? 2237 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,760 Yo, yo, dude, dude, dude, season six, 2238 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,800 it starts off with a war and then it ends up. 2239 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:29,640 A war? 2240 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:34,000 Yeah, it's one of the most action-packed starts 2241 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,520 to a season ever and so many heroes get injured. 2242 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:41,440 Some main characters die. 2243 01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:43,160 Whoa. 2244 01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,880 I know, I know, it's pretty intense. 2245 01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:46,720 Which ones? 2246 01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:47,960 There's fucking a thousand. 2247 01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,440 Yeah, that's why I said main characters in quotes. 2248 01:30:50,440 --> 01:30:52,920 The listeners weren't able to hear that. 2249 01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:57,080 But it goes to some pretty awesome places. 2250 01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,560 So yeah, I was gonna talk a little bit about that 2251 01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,600 but there's always time to talk about it later. 2252 01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,120 Don't you worry. 2253 01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:04,960 Okay. 2254 01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,360 Yeah, then I can talk about Chainsaw Man 2. 2255 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:08,200 Did you watch Chainsaw Man? 2256 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:09,040 I don't know if I did or not. 2257 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,240 Maybe, maybe that'll be a future episode 2258 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,440 that we can talk about it. 2259 01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:16,200 Justin, right now, did you watch Chainsaw Man, yes or no? 2260 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,760 No, I read the first volume. 2261 01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:19,600 Oh! 2262 01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:20,440 Ah! 2263 01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:21,280 Oh! 2264 01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,120 Pfft! 2265 01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:23,400 Dude, it's so good! 2266 01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:25,920 Is it? 2267 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,480 Oh gosh, you don't like it? 2268 01:31:27,480 --> 01:31:28,320 Oh! 2269 01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,600 Wait, what happens in the first one, hold on. 2270 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,760 In the, oh, you're bringing it out, he's bringing it out. 2271 01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:35,600 Pulling it out. 2272 01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,560 Actually, I have two copies of the first one 2273 01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,200 just in case I need to either lend one to someone 2274 01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,040 or need it on the go. 2275 01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,320 Wait, wait, so you always carry it with you then? 2276 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,040 I've got copies of the first three. 2277 01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:48,880 Oh, okay. 2278 01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:49,960 Two of the first three. 2279 01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,000 Oh yeah, no, you don't like it? 2280 01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,280 He's so boob motivated. 2281 01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,520 I know it has to get better, but he's like, 2282 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,320 all I want is a good meal and a touch of boobs. 2283 01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:03,640 That's literally... 2284 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,680 Justin, holy shit. 2285 01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,640 Wait, did you get, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 2286 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:15,640 Okay, so the resolution to the boob arc is incredible. 2287 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,880 Think of what you just said, think of what you just said. 2288 01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,160 Justin, I know, Justin, I know. 2289 01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,480 I'm not one of those guys out here 2290 01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:29,120 like defending the fucking boob animes, right? 2291 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,120 Like I'm not, that's not what I'm doing. 2292 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:37,520 The resolution to the boob arc is so profound and meaningful 2293 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,520 that I think about it often. 2294 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:42,360 Okay. 2295 01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,840 I think about it often. 2296 01:32:51,440 --> 01:32:54,600 I could talk about Chainsaw Man for fucking nine hours. 2297 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,240 You know what, maybe I should actually watch 2298 01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:02,440 the first season, which I have purchased, by the way. 2299 01:33:02,440 --> 01:33:03,280 You've purchased? 2300 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:04,320 Yeah, it was like two bucks. 2301 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,200 I bought it, it's two bucks. 2302 01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,800 I don't know what I bought it on, but it's there. 2303 01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,840 I would highly recommend Chainsaw Man. 2304 01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,760 Yeah, no, I think that on its surface, 2305 01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:19,520 it is one of those super macho, edgy manga anime, 2306 01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:24,520 but I think the things that it says about being alive 2307 01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:28,640 are very profound and deeply impactful. 2308 01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,640 And the first season of the show is very good. 2309 01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,360 And it follows the books pretty closely. 2310 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:39,840 I'm sure it does, I don't wanna be like this guy, 2311 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:41,400 but I'm sure it fills some of the, 2312 01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,160 between some of the panels in better ways 2313 01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,320 than the actual manga does. 2314 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:50,680 Oh, Justin, I'm so excited to talk more about Chainsaw Man. 2315 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,240 Maybe we'll do a Patreon exclusive 2316 01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:54,720 Chainsaw Man only episode. 2317 01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,320 Hey, I'm on spring break, maybe this is the week. 2318 01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,360 Means what, like nine episodes, 10 episodes? 2319 01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:01,200 Something like that, yeah. 2320 01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,680 Now that my hero's done, I got nothing else. 2321 01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:08,280 Yeah, yeah, oh, and I think Denji as a protagonist 2322 01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,320 is so interesting compared to someone like Deku, 2323 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:12,680 where Deku is like, 2324 01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,200 I think Denji, oh, fuck, well, we get, 2325 01:34:19,480 --> 01:34:21,280 here's my thought, and then we'll end our show, 2326 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,040 and then we'll save it for whatever bonus episode we do, 2327 01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:25,840 or whatever we end up talking about this more. 2328 01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:27,840 But Denji, I think he's such an interesting character, 2329 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,320 because there's so many of these manga protagonists 2330 01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,200 who are all about, I need to be the very best, 2331 01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,440 I need to get to the top of the whatever, 2332 01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:38,720 and Denji's just like, I just wanna eat three meals a day 2333 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,000 and have a place to sleep, 2334 01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:41,360 and I think that that's very compelling. 2335 01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:42,200 And? 2336 01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:45,920 And then when he gets that need met, 2337 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,520 he's like, well, now that I kind of have 2338 01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,840 the basics for living, what do I need? 2339 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,520 I think I wanna touch some boobs. 2340 01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:56,640 And then how that wraps up? 2341 01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:57,800 Basics for living. 2342 01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,000 But how that wraps up, Justin? 2343 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,000 How that cups out? 2344 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:02,840 How that is, 2345 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,280 how that is, how that is, how that is, how that is, 2346 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:09,800 is extremely, extremely profound, in my opinion. 2347 01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:14,320 Thanks so much for listening to our show. 2348 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,480 If you have any thoughts about Chainsaw Man, tweet at me. 2349 01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:17,400 I wanna know. 2350 01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,520 I can't stop talking about Chainsaw Man. 2351 01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,640 I can't stop thinking about Chainsaw Man. 2352 01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:23,440 Here's my Chainsaw Man tattoo. 2353 01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:24,680 It was a joke, I don't have one. 2354 01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:26,000 Oh, what if you did? 2355 01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,080 I would, I would, man. 2356 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:29,360 I'd make sure I- It's fucking good. 2357 01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,120 If you did have one, I'd kick flip away from you 2358 01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:32,920 the first time I saw you. 2359 01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,000 Ah, I like that, I like that. 2360 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,120 I actually wrote a piece on Digital Trends 2361 01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:40,120 about how I think Chainsaw Man and Resident Evil 4 2362 01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,400 are a lovely little pairing together. 2363 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:43,400 Oh, yeah. 2364 01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:46,760 And it's more than just the hooded chainsaw guys. 2365 01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,120 Yeah, I think tonally, in terms of being goofy, 2366 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,980 but also being pretty serious and kinda scary sometimes, 2367 01:35:51,980 --> 01:35:55,180 I think that they go together pretty well. 2368 01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:59,160 But that is for another time, another place, 2369 01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,800 another space, like patreon.com slash hitboxpod, 2370 01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,960 where $1 podcast producers can donate to us $1 2371 01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:08,200 if they want to. 2372 01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:09,160 I said that all backwards. 2373 01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,680 If you got $1 a month that you wanna give to us, 2374 01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,960 become a podcast producer, or if you've got $3 a month 2375 01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:16,880 and want your name right on the show 2376 01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:18,600 like Jay Nolte and Dave Parker, 2377 01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:23,600 or, and or, want our 30-minute additional bonus episodes 2378 01:36:24,340 --> 01:36:26,080 published every single week, 2379 01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,160 you know where to find that, patreon.com slash hitboxpod. 2380 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:29,240 Join our Discord server. 2381 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,720 Link to that is in the description of this episode. 2382 01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,200 Follow us on Twitter at hitboxpod. 2383 01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,520 Review the podcast onto your podcast player. 2384 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,280 Am I missing anything, Justin? 2385 01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,880 No, you're not missing a single note. 2386 01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:42,480 You've hit every note perfectly. 2387 01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:47,160 In fact, you got an S rank on that encounter. 2388 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:48,520 Whoa. Yeah. 2389 01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,400 Those are references to Hi-Fi Rush. 2390 01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:56,400 Justin, to quote Chainsaw Man. 2391 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,800 Are you just opening a random page? 2392 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,200 I wanna touch some boobs. 2393 01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,040 Always remember, old games are old. 2394 01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:04,880 Bye. Bye. 2395 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:33,280 All right. That's, I'll stop recording.