1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,160 Justin, I went to a casino this week 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:03,920 and I think you know this is about me. 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,000 I like to gamble. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,480 I like to gamble. 5 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,140 I think it comes down to my love for games. 6 00:00:11,140 --> 00:00:11,980 Yeah. 7 00:00:11,980 --> 00:00:12,800 You know what I mean? 8 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,640 Like I like to play games. 9 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,840 I like card games. 10 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,640 I like blackjack a fair amount. 11 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,840 To my understanding, you are not a fan necessarily, right? 12 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,720 So just a real quick backup. 13 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,440 I guess you posted on social media about this. 14 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,280 I did. 15 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,800 My wife said, oh, Peter and Josh went to a casino 16 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,360 and I was like, oh no. 17 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,320 It was my first thought. 18 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,160 I was like, oh no. 19 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:38,920 He's, no, no, oh no. 20 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,620 But yeah, I don't like gambling 21 00:00:40,620 --> 00:00:43,760 because I find it to be a waste of money. 22 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,120 If I'm gonna spend $20 on something, 23 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,600 I wanna know what that gets me. 24 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,300 I don't want the chance of it getting me more money 25 00:00:50,300 --> 00:00:52,640 that I can then later spend and lose. 26 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,040 So yeah, I am not a good gambler. 27 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,760 I find it very depressing. 28 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,560 Like I get depressed when I put a lot of money, 29 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,920 like I spend a lot of money on something, 30 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:01,320 even if it's what I want. 31 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,280 And then if I'm just gambling it away, 32 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,680 I'm just literally gambling money to get more, 33 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,320 I'm paying money to get money. 34 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:11,520 And that's like doubly bad for me. 35 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Yeah, I mean, like I can definitely like, 36 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,920 like, hey, I can definitely see 37 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,840 why it becomes a problem for people. 38 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:19,680 Do you know what I mean? 39 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,360 Like I definitely understand that. 40 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,200 And I think that like, you know, 41 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,000 you should know yourself enough, not you specifically, 42 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,780 but like I think someone should know themselves enough 43 00:01:28,780 --> 00:01:30,680 to whether or not they think that's the sort of thing 44 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,520 that would like very, very, very much excite them, 45 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,640 you know, like in an unhealthy way. 46 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,080 Yeah, yeah. 47 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,800 But I gamble responsibly. 48 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,920 I never, like I go in saying, 49 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,200 like this is the money I have taken out of my bank account. 50 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,400 This is what I'm gonna spend. 51 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,240 And if it is all gone, that is okay 52 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,300 because I'm spending this much money, right? 53 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:52,440 Like I'm just assuming that this money 54 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,880 is going to be gone for me. 55 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Do you know what I mean? 56 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,760 So like I will go in, 57 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,200 like when I went to Clarif, 58 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,040 like I went into the casino with $200 in my pocket. 59 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,480 And I said, if I drain this, this is gone. 60 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,160 Like that's it, I'm not gonna, I'm not spending anymore. 61 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,200 And me losing that $200 isn't gonna like change my life. 62 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,040 You know what I mean? 63 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,060 Like I'm not going to not be able to pay rent 64 00:02:14,060 --> 00:02:15,360 if I don't have this $200. 65 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,640 Just like going in accepting this could all be gone. 66 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:20,760 All right, so you went in this weekend saying $200 67 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,360 is the money I'm bringing in. 68 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,200 Yep. 69 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,760 How much money did you leave with? 70 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,720 $189. 71 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:28,560 Oh, okay. 72 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,640 So you had, how long were you there? 73 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,640 So we were like gambling in total 74 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:35,860 for probably about three or four hours. 75 00:02:35,860 --> 00:02:39,320 We were down pretty bad at a certain point 76 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,880 that we got up pretty good and we wanted to keep going. 77 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,680 We took a break after getting up. 78 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,080 We had some dinner, did some other stuff 79 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,200 and then we went back to it. 80 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,880 And then both Josh, my roommate and I lost $40 each. 81 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,800 And we said, all right. 82 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,480 And that's enough of that. 83 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,640 I mean, hey, that's not bad. 84 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:01,520 So what casino, like let's get the, 85 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,000 I need some of the 411 here. 86 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,120 What was the casino? 87 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,360 What were the games you played? 88 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Where did you eat? 89 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,080 What did you eat? 90 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:12,080 And then did you feel like it was a good day for you? 91 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,300 Let me start with your last one. 92 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:15,200 It was a great day. 93 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,040 I had fun. 94 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,280 And like, you know, like I was down $11. 95 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,800 Which is awesome for anything like entertainment 96 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:22,640 that would last that long. 97 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:27,320 I had a great time from like three in the afternoon 98 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,560 until we left at like 1130 PM, right? 99 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,320 Like I, for $11, I had a fantastic time. 100 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,320 And also like, yes, it is good to win money 101 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,880 when you play games, like when you gamble and whatever. 102 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,840 But I, as I sort of said at the top of the show, 103 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,380 enjoy to, I just enjoy playing the games. 104 00:03:45,380 --> 00:03:46,220 You know what I mean? 105 00:03:46,220 --> 00:03:47,840 So like, at the end of the day, 106 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,440 it costs less to go to Galpin Ghosts, 107 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,560 the arcade nearby us, you know, 108 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,560 to play a bunch of video games. 109 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,280 So like I had fun just, you know, gambling, whatever. 110 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,000 And walking away, being able to say, 111 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,200 I still have most of my money is not actually so bad. 112 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,480 Especially when I was down about $100, 113 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,720 roughly halfway through the night. 114 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,320 And so to end up there, I'll take it. 115 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,160 Good day, good day. 116 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,200 This was at the Horseshoe Casino, 117 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,900 right over the border in Indiana. 118 00:04:15,740 --> 00:04:17,880 We went, well, I'm gonna talk about this 119 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,400 a little bit later in the show. 120 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,480 We went because Nick Offerman 121 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,600 was doing a standup set there. 122 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,840 And so we went to see that. 123 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:26,680 Oh. 124 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,560 He did, he mentioned The Last of Us a little bit 125 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,280 and talked about that for roughly 15 seconds. 126 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,560 But all in all, didn't love the show. 127 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,080 He didn't, he just like, he didn't, 128 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,480 he just had these like sentences that he would just say 129 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:45,560 and there weren't like jokes in them. 130 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,720 It would just be like, 131 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,040 I'm not gonna be like one of those standup guys 132 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,320 who just like gets up here and like hates on my wife. 133 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,600 I'm like, great. 134 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,200 Did his wife show up? 135 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,160 No, she did not. 136 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,960 Oh, because I went to see a standup special from him. 137 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,120 I'm a listener, I have quotes when I'm doing that. 138 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,880 And it was just like him telling like yarns, 139 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,280 like stories and stuff. 140 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:07,840 And then his wife showed up. 141 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:10,200 And it wasn't the most, I mean, it was fine. 142 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,040 It was fine. 143 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,520 Like I appreciated seeing him and I was like, 144 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,760 oh, this is fun to see him. 145 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,320 But no, it was, in terms of a comedy show, it was fine. 146 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,560 He sang a lot of songs. 147 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,000 He wrote a bunch of silly songs. 148 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,160 If I ever were to lose you. 149 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,440 Kinda, kinda. 150 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,840 But no, all in all, great night to be had. 151 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:32,560 It was a good time. 152 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,680 Again, for 11 bucks, I had a great time. 153 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,240 What was the food? 154 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,120 We just ate, it was like a burger place at the casino. 155 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,960 We didn't have time to. 156 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,960 Oh man, if you had a buffet there. 157 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,120 If it was a buffet, I would be. 158 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,880 There's nothing quite like. 159 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Nothing quite like a casino buffet. 160 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,040 See, we had the casino, it was fine. 161 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:52,960 We were gonna play blackjack. 162 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,800 Blackjack is my game of choice. 163 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,280 But the tables were all $15 164 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:58,240 and that is a little rich for my blood. 165 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,120 Especially if I'm only bringing in 200 bucks. 166 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,840 So we played a game called the big six, 167 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:07,000 which is as I think streamlined as gambling can possibly get. 168 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,520 Basically, it's a giant pinwheel 169 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,160 with a bunch of numbers written on it 170 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,360 that when the pinwheel stops, 171 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,960 you bet on which number you think it's gonna be on. 172 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,840 There was a moment where we thought 173 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:19,280 we both almost won $2,000 each 174 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:20,840 and then it turned out to be $20 175 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:23,520 and we were very disappointed. 176 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,480 Yes, yes, yes. 177 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,320 Well. 178 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,640 But hey, make sure if you're gonna 179 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,640 gamble, gamble responsibly, please know your personality, 180 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,400 know your limits, know your funds. 181 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:34,240 It's Pinbox. 182 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,920 What you looking for? 183 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,920 ["Pinbox Theme Song"] 184 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,320 What's going on everyone? 185 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,920 Welcome back to Hitbox episode number 136. 186 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,360 My name is Peter Hunspitek. 187 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,800 Joining me as always is my wonderful friend 188 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,960 and co-host Justin Makovich. 189 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:10,780 How are you man? 190 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:11,620 How are things? 191 00:07:11,620 --> 00:07:12,440 How are you doing? 192 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,120 Oh, I mean the world keeps spinning. 193 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,120 I feel like we're to a point when it feels like 194 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,440 at least for the school year, 195 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,920 where spring break is this week, next week, the week. 196 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,400 So I always feel like when spring break comes, 197 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,520 anything that happens afterwards is just, 198 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,400 it's all a joke. 199 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,240 It's not important. 200 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,360 It's just, it's done. 201 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,800 And you know the one thing about being a teacher 202 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,840 that's really nice is that you're on your same schedule 203 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,200 that you've been on literally your entire life. 204 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,960 So it's like the nice wind down to the end of the year. 205 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:45,800 But then I have to tell myself, 206 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,080 well there's still eight weeks left when I come back. 207 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,000 But everyone's already. 208 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,400 But only eight weeks, that's actually not too bad. 209 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,480 Yeah, I know. 210 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,120 Were you impacted? 211 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:56,940 This is how dumb I am. 212 00:07:56,940 --> 00:07:59,640 Was daylight savings this week or last week? 213 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:00,480 Last week. 214 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,320 Okay, I didn't even know. 215 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,360 See, that's the thing. 216 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,680 You never know now until you get in your car. 217 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,360 Unless you've got like a car that. 218 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,120 Oh, my car just does it automatically. 219 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:08,960 I don't even know anymore. 220 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:09,920 Oh really? 221 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:10,760 Wow. 222 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,720 I think it's just the stove that tells me about it. 223 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,560 But I bring that up because it was like six o'clock today 224 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,160 and the sun was still out when I got home. 225 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,600 And I was like, oh, it's beautiful. 226 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,440 It's perfect. 227 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,000 I see the sun finally. 228 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:23,840 It's the way to go. 229 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,920 It is the way to go. 230 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,000 We're gonna talk about some video game news. 231 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Here's a quick preview of what's coming up. 232 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,360 Starfield's age rating gives away some saucy details. 233 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,680 Resident Evil 4 gets rave reviews 234 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:38,640 and the gaming community mourns the loss of Lance Riddick. 235 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,040 We're gonna talk about all of that and more before we do. 236 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,160 Here's a reminder. 237 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,040 Hop into our Discord server. 238 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,200 The link to that is in the description of this episode. 239 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,440 If you're feeling generous, 240 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,760 want to support us in what we do, 241 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,160 go to Patreon.com slash hitbox pod, 242 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,760 become a one dollar podcast producer 243 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,600 or a three dollar deluxe podcast producer. 244 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,920 If you do, you will join the ranks 245 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,600 of Dave Parker and Jay Knoll 246 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,680 and also get an additional 30 minute bonus episode 247 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:06,600 every single week. 248 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,480 And you'll get all of the previous ones as well. 249 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,960 I think we broke 35 or 36 last week. 250 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,640 So they're coming. 251 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,760 They're just continuing to roll out. 252 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,200 That deal gets better and better every week. 253 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,360 If you can't support us monetarily, 254 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,440 I'll go and hop on over to Twitter.com slash hitbox pod 255 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,000 at hitbox pod, really whatever you prefer to do 256 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,200 to get to Twitter and follow us there. 257 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,880 Justin, you want to head over to the Metacritic Roundup, 258 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,200 talk about the games that came out this week? 259 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,360 No, do I? 260 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,160 Do you? 261 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,000 I do actually. 262 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:42,920 Oh, okay, cool. 263 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,120 Metacritic Roundup. 264 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:50,040 Really yanking my chain there, dude. 265 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,840 I was like, I didn't know what was going to happen. 266 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,680 I liked it. 267 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:56,440 It was a fun sort of change in momentum. 268 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:57,440 You know, every once in a while, 269 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,880 I just forget what I normally say 270 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,400 and then I say what comes to my mind 271 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,680 and it's wrong usually, so that's what happened there. 272 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:03,520 It wasn't wrong. 273 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,360 It's just that I think this is a collaborative effort 274 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,560 and if you don't want to, 275 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:09,880 then Justin, we're not gonna do it. 276 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,680 But luckily, we are gonna talk about Resident Evil 4 Remake. 277 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:13,640 Oh, yeah, I gotta do it. 278 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:14,960 This is my draft game, man. 279 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:15,800 We gotta talk. 280 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,440 I gotta gloat for a second. 281 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,480 Yeah, this has a 93 on Metacritic. 282 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,680 Second highest reviewed game of the year, I think. 283 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:25,920 I think so on the PS5, 284 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,640 because the first one is I think Metroid Prime Remastered, 285 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,480 right? 286 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,640 Another remake remastered or whatever. 287 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,560 So Resident Evil 4 Remake on the PlayStation 5 is a 93. 288 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:36,440 On the PC, a 92. 289 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,320 Xbox Series X, a 91 and is unscored on the PS4 290 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,520 and not available on the Xbox One. 291 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,440 This seems to be a behemoth of a game 292 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,880 in terms of like, 293 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:54,960 we talked about this a little bit last week 294 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,800 after playing that demo. 295 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,240 This seems like it is going to be an excellent game. 296 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,680 What do these reviews tell you, Justin? 297 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:07,800 I mean, it tells me that it's Resident Evil 4, 298 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,960 but better, because the controls are better. 299 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,640 And it just seems like they've modernized it in a way. 300 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,920 When listening to some reviews 301 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,360 and hearing some stuff about it, 302 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,640 it sounds like there's some open-worldy kind of parts of it 303 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,320 with more like roaming around where you wanna go. 304 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,560 Was that in the original game 305 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:28,480 or my-ish? 306 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,280 So from what I saw, I think it was maybe the IGN review 307 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,120 talked about how instead of just going to the lake 308 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,440 for a one-off boss fight with that big monster thing, 309 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,520 you get on a boat in the lake 310 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,920 and you can take different paths and stuff like that. 311 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,680 That was not in the original. 312 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,080 But that sort of expansion of that 313 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,240 makes a little bit of sense, 314 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,960 because if you remember, the original game is level-based. 315 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 316 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,560 I think it's the first Resident Evil game 317 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:54,400 to kind of do that. 318 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,560 And five does that as well and six does as well. 319 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:59,720 But then they sort of drop that in favor of 320 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,120 not doing that in seven and eight. 321 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,120 But I think you look at something like Resident Evil 8 322 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,040 and that village is like a hub area. 323 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,920 But I think that's kind of how they could do it. 324 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,840 I don't know if they said that they dropped 325 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,120 the level format or not, but it seems like, yeah, 326 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,680 exploration is a little bit more of a central thing here 327 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:22,520 as opposed to- 328 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,240 And more like reason to backtrack rather than 329 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,320 just backtracking to try to get more money 330 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,240 to spend at the merchant or whatever. 331 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,240 So I think that stuff is the kind of stuff 332 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,440 that I think would pull me in to it a little bit more, 333 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,400 just to know that, hey, I can kind of do it the way I want. 334 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,820 But I gotta say, I think the sort of Metroidvania moments 335 00:12:43,820 --> 00:12:47,400 that you get in Village, I love that format. 336 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,680 Like how you have the hub, how you go out like that. 337 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:50,920 And I'm sure this isn't that, 338 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,720 because it's still based off of the original. 339 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,680 But I just think that's such a, 340 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:57,440 that was such a cool way to do it, 341 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,880 that you felt like you could still explore. 342 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,140 Even though some areas were eventually knocked off to you, 343 00:13:01,140 --> 00:13:02,600 you still have that home base to go to 344 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,880 that you felt comfortable with. 345 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,420 So I don't know, I don't know. 346 00:13:06,420 --> 00:13:08,720 I think from what I'm hearing about this game, 347 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,160 it sounds like there were very positive changes 348 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,260 from the original. 349 00:13:13,260 --> 00:13:14,800 And it looks good. 350 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,040 Graphically, it's pretty. 351 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:21,040 And yeah, I'm not as excited as I was about this game 352 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,840 before I played the demo though. 353 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,600 For the same reasons I said about last week, 354 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,000 how it still kind of feels like the Resident Evil shooting, 355 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,160 third person shooting, which I'm not a huge, huge fan of. 356 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,760 And this game is pretty action based, 357 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:34,960 if I'm correct, right? 358 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:37,520 Yeah. 359 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,080 I mean, yes, yes. 360 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:39,920 Yeah. 361 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,560 It's not like the other games where you can kind of get away 362 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:43,920 with like juking around them. 363 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:44,760 Yeah. 364 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,080 You have to do combat. 365 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,720 You gotta fight. 366 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,540 Yeah. 367 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,220 This is gonna be my weekend. 368 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,360 I'm not working on this one, so I get to enjoy this. 369 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,280 This is not, this is fun for once. 370 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,120 Completely for free. 371 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,680 Wow, that's actually nice. 372 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:05,760 To be honest, this is a game that I am really looking 373 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:06,600 forward to playing. 374 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,440 Good, good. 375 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,320 Especially after playing that demo. 376 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,840 And just like, you know, just, it's been so long 377 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,200 since I've been able to just sit down 378 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,520 and fucking play a video game and just like really get 379 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,320 like super stoked to just like play a video game 380 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,400 for a long time, you know what I mean? 381 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:20,240 Yeah, yeah. 382 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,320 Yeah, no, these reviews, I'm not surprised by this at all. 383 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,080 I am simply excited. 384 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,320 Probably play this on PS4 probably, I think. 385 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,800 PS4? 386 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Five, I mean, sorry. 387 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,800 I was like, dude, you're really. 388 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,360 No, I think I've been switching that up 389 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,200 and saying PS4 a lot lately on accident. 390 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,800 I think I said it on last week's episode where I said like, 391 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,600 rumors about the PS4 Pro and it's like, 392 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,920 yeah man, it came out in 2018. 393 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,840 Well, I keep saying Resident Evil 5 remake 394 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:51,680 instead of Resident Evil. 395 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:52,800 Yeah, you did ask me, you were like, 396 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,200 do you have Resident Evil 5 remake early? 397 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,200 And I was like. 398 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,040 No. What? 399 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,360 I was like, excuse me? 400 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,400 Do you think they're gonna remake that? 401 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,960 I was talking to Josh about this today. 402 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,440 So you've played, I haven't played five or six. 403 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:04,760 Yeah. But I think so. 404 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,400 I mean, I think like with the trajectory they're going on, 405 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,880 I know like that game is more updated control wise 406 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,920 and everything, correct? 407 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,080 Yes, yes. 408 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:20,080 And I think, I mean, putting it in the Resident Evil engine 409 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,560 and updating some of the stuff 410 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,280 and doing some of the thoughtful reimaginings 411 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,200 that they did with like, I'm using two as the example 412 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,640 of how they really did reimagine that a little bit. 413 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:32,840 I think they could. 414 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,280 And I think they're not gonna stop. 415 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,960 I mean, Resident Evil is more popular than ever. 416 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,960 I think this is the third best reviewed Resident Evil game. 417 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,840 Number one, Resident Evil 4 2005. 418 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,760 Number two, Resident Evil Code Veronica at like a 94. 419 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,560 And then number three is Resident Evil 4 remake. 420 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,000 And then plus like, I mean, 421 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,240 the Resident Evil 2 remake has done great. 422 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,320 The Resident Evil 3 remake, not as great, 423 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,320 but still people like it. 424 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,600 And then all the seven and village people love. 425 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,560 So I think they're definitely gonna do that. 426 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,880 And I don't think it would be a bad thing 427 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,480 because I think those games are inherently flawed. 428 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,560 Resident Evil 5 is like fucking racist as shit, dude. 429 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,120 Like it is, like that's, like, 430 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,040 that's I think the problem with it for me is like, 431 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,920 in terms of like, you wanna remake it mechanically 432 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,480 so that it feels in line with these games. 433 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,600 Sure, like that's fine. 434 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,680 But like, I would be curious to like, 435 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,240 see how they would handle that. 436 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,360 And even like, okay, if they're gonna like remove 437 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,320 like the racist stuff about it, like, 438 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,200 I mean, kind of at its core, it's pretty racist, you know? 439 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,520 And then to remake that and remove that sort of stuff, 440 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,520 to me, makes me like, it sort of throws me into a debate. 441 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,440 And I haven't like figured out how I feel on this 442 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,200 necessarily yet, so I'm not gonna like stand by any of this. 443 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,560 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're just two guys on a podcast sitting here. 444 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,120 Two fucking white guys just talking about 445 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,400 how we think racism should be handled. 446 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,160 And you know, I'm willing to have my mind changed 447 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,000 about this sort of stuff too. 448 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,720 But like, my worry is that if you remake that 449 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,000 and remove all of that racist stuff, 450 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,320 like, there's an argument to be made that like, hey, 451 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,920 they might be trying to erase some of that history 452 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,720 that they did that, although on the other hand, 453 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,120 and again, I haven't thought about this fucking at all. 454 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:17,480 On the other hand, like, you can still buy Resident Evil 5. 455 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,640 Yeah. Like, you can see that. 456 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,080 And I don't know if they're, 457 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,120 I think it's a complicated subject is the whole, 458 00:17:22,120 --> 00:17:23,240 is what I'm trying to get at. 459 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,600 So what makes the game kind of racist? 460 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,920 I mean, we talked about this before, but just refresh, 461 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,280 refresh my and the listener's memory. 462 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,320 I guess it's tough to know where to start. 463 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:37,520 Oh, no. 464 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,080 It is, it is, it is truly, it is pretty upsetting. 465 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,080 I think like, well, like on a just very surface level, 466 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,400 you have just a white military dude going to Africa, 467 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:52,880 some country in Africa, which by the way, 468 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,800 like Resident Evil like always kind of gets away with like, 469 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:55,800 we're in Europe. 470 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,560 And it's like, where? 471 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,640 It's like they speak in Spanish, 472 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,280 but it's like Mexican Spanish. 473 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,800 Like where in Europe are we? 474 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,520 Or they did that like Resident Evil Village, 475 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:05,760 where they're like, we're in Europe. 476 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,280 And it's like, what, where are fucking in Europe? 477 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,120 What are we talking about? 478 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:09,160 So they did that with Africa. 479 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,040 But I think a problem is that like, 480 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,760 Africa frequently gets that treatment, you know, 481 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,800 like it gets like, it's called a country. 482 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,400 Like if you like go into this country, this country, 483 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,920 or Africa, and it's like, yo, it's a giant ass continent. 484 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:26,920 You know, like with, with over like 30 or 40 countries in it. 485 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,080 So I think that general sort of like, 486 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:35,080 no, they're just in Africa is a little dicey. 487 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:36,840 And the fact that it's just, 488 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,200 it's a white guy shooting pretty much primarily 489 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,720 just black people in Africa. 490 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,200 And basically just like he shows up 491 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,200 and just starts shouting at people pointing a gun. 492 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,680 And when they don't like answer his questions, 493 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,080 he starts shooting them. 494 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,240 And I mean, they are zombies. 495 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,600 So like, I guess, you know, whatever, 496 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,880 but it's just, it's a bad look in general. 497 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,720 And then like, I think that like, 498 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,160 I don't know if they did a lot of research 499 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,640 on the cultures of Africa, 500 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,960 but it maybe feels like they didn't. 501 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,040 Cause you've just got like a bunch of like, 502 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,160 very stereotypical like grass skirts and like big, 503 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:12,320 I don't even know what the culture is, 504 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,160 but like big masks and stuff like that, 505 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,880 that just don't feel particularly well researched 506 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:19,960 or thoughtfully included. 507 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,360 So then like those are included as they are enemies. 508 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:24,200 You know what I mean? 509 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,880 They are only included to be like, 510 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,520 we are going to kill these people. 511 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,920 So like, what do you do about that? 512 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:32,760 You know what I mean? 513 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,680 To remake it, like you could not set in Africa, 514 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,480 but then it's, I think it's just a whole can of worms 515 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,960 that is worth untangling. 516 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,800 And I think there's potentially a way 517 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,360 for them to do it correctly, but I don't know if, 518 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,760 I don't know, it seems like a complicated issue 519 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,720 in my opinion. 520 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,200 Is this a like common critique of Resident Evil 5? 521 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,680 Yes. 522 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,560 And it's wild too, because like, 523 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,280 I'm not saying that like people weren't paying attention 524 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,040 to racism in 2010, but I think that like, 525 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,120 those conversations obviously were certainly happening, 526 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:06,880 but from what it seems like the moment 527 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,240 that this game was revealed, everyone was like, 528 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:12,680 Capcom? 529 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,480 Oh guys, guys? 530 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,160 Yes, yes, this is like, like anytime anyone plays this game, 531 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,480 it is always like, holy shit. 532 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,080 I'm sending you an article to look at. 533 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,680 But this is an article published four days ago 534 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,040 by the gamer, Jade King, called, 535 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,760 Resonable 5 is too racist for a remake. 536 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,280 And it goes through a couple of good details 537 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,760 about how it was revealed, how like part of the setting 538 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,640 wasn't necessarily known about, the idea that you have 539 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,640 this kind of generic interpretation of Africa in general. 540 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,120 Yeah. 541 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:51,280 So, yeah, I think that's an interesting question. 542 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,920 Like what, is this the next game to remake? 543 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,680 Is this the next thing that they're gonna do? 544 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,480 Cause it does seem like they need a pretty significant 545 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,200 change to it in order to try to avoid that. 546 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,080 Because I think the last thing they wanna do, 547 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,640 if I'm correct, 5 sold really well, correct? 548 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,640 I don't know. 549 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,400 I mean, I would assume that like with each subsequent game, 550 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:12,520 they continued so well. 551 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,240 I thought 5 initially sold well, I don't know the thing. 552 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,920 And then 6 was a better game, but didn't sell as well. 553 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,720 Cause people were turned off by 5 or something like that. 554 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,640 It's a question of like, I think in terms of like 555 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,000 being a video game, 5 is probably a better game, 556 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,200 but it's fucking racist as shit, man. 557 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,040 Like, you know what I mean? 558 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:33,040 Like in Resident Evil 6, it's also kind of racist 559 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,120 against Chinese people, it feels. 560 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:39,520 But maybe in, I don't know. 561 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,440 Like I guess I'm less familiar with like racist stereotypes 562 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,120 against Chinese people than I am with black people 563 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:46,920 just because of like how we are in America, 564 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,760 you know what I mean? 565 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,680 Mm-mm. 566 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,240 But I don't know, like, yeah. 567 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,840 Like I would probably say that 5 is a, again, 568 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,720 like with all the context of what we just said, 569 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,040 5 is probably a better video game. 570 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,640 And it has a fuck ton of racist shit in it, 571 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,080 which is inexcusable and uncomfortable 572 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,280 and important to talk about. 573 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,720 But 6 doesn't have all of that. 574 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,240 But in terms of being a video game, 575 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,200 I would say it's like probably a little bit lesser. 576 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,040 I don't know. 577 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:16,920 I'm also gonna throw this out there. 578 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,880 I don't think Resident Evil is known as a series 579 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,440 for its deep and complex writing. 580 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,880 No, and I think that's the problem. 581 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,280 I think that like 4, like they sort of realized that 582 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,480 and like leaned into it. 583 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,920 And then they were like, well, let's keep doing that. 584 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,120 We'll do, let's a little bit like, you know. 585 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:37,960 Yeah. 586 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Whatever movie, you know, and just, no, no. 587 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,720 Yeah, I don't know. 588 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,440 Like to me, I would say like, 589 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,400 I would say we're probably fine 590 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,600 without a remake of this game. 591 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,120 Probably fine without a remake of 6 592 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,000 because even then, if you're gonna remake 6, 593 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,200 like holy shit, that's gonna have to be a big overhaul. 594 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,600 I mean, it's the whole thing's multiplayer for starters. 595 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,200 It's got some cool ideas, but it's just like, 596 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,760 there is a lot to it that is like, 597 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,800 this would need to be just a completely reworked and redone. 598 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,960 I would say just leave these two be and Capcom. 599 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,600 Work on New Resident Evil stuff. 600 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,760 You're missing zero. 601 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,760 Remake zero, remake Code Veronica, I guess. 602 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,600 Remake. 603 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,080 Have you played Zero before? 604 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:21,920 Nope. 605 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,240 Zero plays from Peter. 606 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,080 I don't know. 607 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,920 Yeah, I was like, I was like. 608 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,720 Forced me to play Resident Evil, I will. 609 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,200 I wasn't gonna like it. 610 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,360 Yeah, yeah. 611 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:31,200 Yeah, so like, I don't know. 612 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,920 Like, I think that, I would say 613 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,360 you're probably better off just, 614 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:39,520 because I think like the nostalgia has run out 615 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,520 with Resident Evil 4. 616 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,920 Like, I would say people are not, 617 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,840 I would say most people do not remember Resident Evil 5, 618 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,400 like with nostalgia that they're gonna be like, 619 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,360 holy shit, they're remaking this game from my childhood? 620 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:52,480 I gotta go play that. 621 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,520 I don't think people are doing that, 622 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,920 but I think people might be doing that with Resident Evil 4 623 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,000 and 3 and 2, you know what I mean? 624 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,840 Yeah, yeah. 625 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,200 One could still use a remake. 626 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,400 It's got a great one. 627 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,560 But it's not in the way, 628 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,920 and I know this is like one of those things. 629 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,040 I know it's not in the way of Resident Evil 2. 630 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,080 Yeah, you can still play that, 631 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,640 but you still have the dated controls. 632 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,760 You still have other things. 633 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,320 And I think if they do a big enough reimagine, remake, 634 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,480 that is not just in terms of how it looks. 635 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,720 It's more in terms of how it plays 636 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,760 and the concept of it, like too. 637 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,160 I think people would still play that. 638 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,520 And I think that now's the time, bring it back. 639 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,400 Yeah, I think that's what that would be 640 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,280 a better task to undergo. 641 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,520 I don't know, I'm torn on this too. 642 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,760 So I just played it, and I think it holds up great. 643 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,200 It's just a different game than those ones. 644 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,040 You know what I mean? 645 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,880 Yeah. 646 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,400 And so if you were to do that, 647 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,440 I think a larger reimagining would need to be done. 648 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,800 I'm gonna put the G virus. 649 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,120 It's interesting you say that. 650 00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,000 There's the T virus, the C virus, 651 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,880 and I think the G virus as well. 652 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,800 All right, so whatever one of those viruses, 653 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,800 I'm putting it up to your neck, 654 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,640 and I was like, you got a choice to make right now. 655 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,520 Or I'm gonna insert this. 656 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,000 Resident Evil 1 remake, Resident Evil 5 remake. 657 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,840 What do you want? 658 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,320 One, one, one. 659 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,600 No, but there's only one right answer here. 660 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,600 Resident Evil 1 or Resident Evil 5 remake? 661 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,440 It is one. 662 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,560 All right, viruses, I'm holding this to your neck. 663 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,400 Which one? 664 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,360 Resident Evil 1 remake, Resident Evil 5, 665 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:27,320 6 remake packaged together. 666 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,160 What do you want? 667 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,440 You get one choice though. 668 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,320 There's only a right, run right answer. 669 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,760 One is a better game than both of those two combined. 670 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,840 All right, I accept. 671 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,680 Yeah. 672 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,760 No virus for you. 673 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,600 Thank you. 674 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,880 If you did, I would get the chicken legs 675 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,320 that they have in Resident Evil 6. 676 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,680 Game's fucking wild, dude. 677 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,040 Or maybe I get the butterfly wings. 678 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,200 I like the little, the neck thing, the neck bulges, 679 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,840 the goiters from 4. 680 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,200 Yeah, yeah. 681 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,600 Did you, have you finished Resident Evil 2 remake? 682 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,440 Are you still trucking along with that? 683 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,480 I did, I beat it. 684 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,320 You beat it? 685 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,160 Oh my gosh. I did. 686 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,920 And let me tell ya, let me tell ya. 687 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,760 Anything. 688 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,680 I really do think that story is pretty well told. 689 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,400 Simple, not overly corny. 690 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,120 But some of the plot beats are pretty like, oh. 691 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,840 Like as you're going through it the whole time. 692 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,200 I do have a very major negative complaint for it. 693 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,040 The whole section in the lab with the forest 694 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,000 felt like, oh, we got some padding we gotta fill out. 695 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:32,840 Yeah. 696 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,200 Did you end up getting the flamethrower in the sewers? 697 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,480 Oh yeah, I did. 698 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,960 When I played it the first time, I didn't. 699 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,200 And Alaina and I were like, 700 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,240 I guess I just don't have the item I need to get this. 701 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,640 And then we just moved on. 702 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,080 And then when we got to the plant place, 703 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,960 I was like, I wish. 704 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,080 I had a flamethrower. 705 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,760 I wish I had a flamethrower, that would've been way better. 706 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,720 Yeah, so go on. 707 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,320 I think that game is exceptionally harder 708 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,520 if you don't follow a guide. 709 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,680 Because there are things like missing the flamethrower. 710 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,520 Yeah. 711 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,360 If you miss the flamethrower, 712 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,640 you have made that game harder on yourself. 713 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,800 And I really do think a lot of the game 714 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,960 is about knowing what resources to use 715 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,960 and which ones to not. 716 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,080 Knowing what areas to kill everyone in 717 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,960 and what areas to just run by. 718 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,280 And I think that my experience playing the original, 719 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,440 I basically got like, 720 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,080 I could not get to the police station when I was a kid. 721 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,560 I mean, I was young at the time, 722 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,440 but I kept like, how do you kill all these things? 723 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,920 And I never have any ammo to do it. 724 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,520 Well, you just run past it, boy. 725 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,360 Yeah. 726 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,160 Why'd I say boy like Kratos, but. 727 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,200 I assume it's because you were talking to your younger self. 728 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,680 I was, you idiot. 729 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,800 Playing that at a Toys R Us, you're never gonna beat that. 730 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,640 Yeah. 731 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,480 Yeah. 732 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,320 Yeah. 733 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,000 But yeah, I think it definitely, 734 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,360 I think it holds up as a game. 735 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,840 I just can't say I enjoyed playing it, 736 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,480 but that might be the horror elements of it 737 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,560 that are just kind of like whatever. 738 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,400 Yeah. 739 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,000 I couldn't stop playing it if that makes sense. 740 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,840 Oh, that's a thing for me. 741 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,640 Like I kept thinking of it and I kept going back to it. 742 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,720 I agree with you entirely. 743 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,560 Yeah. 744 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,240 And to me, that's what makes it, in my opinion, 745 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,080 like a 10 out of 10 game is because it's scary 746 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,320 and I don't like playing it in the sense 747 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,440 that I didn't like watching The Shining 748 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,360 because it was really good at being scary. 749 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,520 But I was thinking about it 750 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,560 and I think it's really well designed. 751 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,920 And I have no nostalgia for the second one, 752 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,240 for like the original one. 753 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,160 Some of those boss fights fucking suck though. 754 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,520 Yeah, that's an area where it feels a little weird 755 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,400 where it's just like, all right, 756 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,400 and I guess time to shoot the guy a bunch of times. 757 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,760 Yeah, like the blob guy that you fight 758 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,760 like three different times, bitch won't die. 759 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,080 Like the second one where you have to use the crane 760 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,200 to kill him. 761 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,800 That sucks, yes. 762 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,200 If I did not read that guide, 763 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,920 I would have been on that fight to this day. 764 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,240 You haven't played the third one, right? 765 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,080 No. 766 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,160 The Resident Evil 3 remake. 767 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,760 So it's funny, you just said bitch won't die 768 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,240 and there's an excellent moment in the second, 769 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,240 in Resident Evil 3 remake where you escape the nemesis 770 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,240 and you push him into a giant lake 771 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,680 or maybe it's like the ocean or something 772 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,480 and Jill just looks at him and goes, 773 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,000 bitch can't even swim. 774 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000 It's so good, it's so good. 775 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,280 Okay, so Resident Evil 3, is that similar 776 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,800 to the first half of two or the second half of two? 777 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,520 Well, it's more action focused. 778 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,080 Okay. 779 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,400 Yeah, if you didn't like the action, 780 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,560 like I think it's, I mean it's got that similar thing 781 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,080 of just like run around him, run around him, 782 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,320 you know what I mean? 783 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,320 But it has a more focus on action. 784 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,240 Okay, okay. 785 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,720 Is there enough ammo? 786 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,080 Yeah, but that's the thing, 787 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,960 like it has got that action focus 788 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,920 but it's also like here's an automatic shotgun 789 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,800 and a thousand shotgun rounds. 790 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,080 Yeah, that helps significantly. 791 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,120 I might like it more. 792 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,320 If you enjoyed Resident Evil 2 remake 793 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,600 and are looking for more, 794 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,120 I would play Resident Evil 3 remake 795 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,120 over doing the other campaign 796 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,680 because the other campaign, like the Jill one 797 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,840 or the Claire one is good and it's worth playing. 798 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,560 I really got a lot out of it 799 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,080 but at the end of the day, it is still the same area. 800 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,800 For the most part, it's the same areas. 801 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,840 You get a different story 802 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,680 and instead of doing the stuff with Ada Wong 803 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,480 with Leon, you do a bunch of stuff with, 804 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,000 I'm forgetting her name, this little girl. 805 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,040 And it's, yeah. 806 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,920 I got a new soundboard thing for you. 807 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,760 Yeah, what's up? 808 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,040 The Ashley screaming for Leon. 809 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,640 Dude, I tried to get it when we did- 810 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,720 Oh, did you? 811 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,720 When we did that crossover episode with Buttmashing 101, 812 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,560 check them out. 813 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,360 But I couldn't find a clean one. 814 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,360 Although I was looking while we were recording a podcast. 815 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,200 So like- 816 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,040 Yeah, probably not, yeah, yeah. 817 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,880 But yeah. 818 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,720 Leon! 819 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,560 Leon! 820 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,400 You know? 821 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,720 Yeah, I'm proud of that. 822 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,200 Can we finish our Metacritic roundup? 823 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,480 I realize we didn't even do that. 824 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,640 Oh wow, we're still, well, we did Resident Evil 4. 825 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,480 It was Resident Evil 826 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,160 and we're gonna talk about that a lot more next week too 827 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,880 because I am gonna play the fuck out of that. 828 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,720 Hell yeah. 829 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,440 Let's talk about Chia. 830 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,480 Chia, I also have on my fantasy team. 831 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,320 Chia, Chia, Chia. 832 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,160 Uh oh. 833 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,000 Yep, this is a good one, 79. 834 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,400 Mommy, okay, not bad. 835 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,400 79 on PlayStation 5, 78 on PC, unscored on PS4. 836 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,520 No, 79 is not a bad score. 837 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,240 It's just that for our fantasy team, 838 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,240 if I'm trying to win this year, 839 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,080 79 is just not acceptable. 840 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,480 Especially, here's the reason though. 841 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,000 I bought this, I picked this up 842 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,600 because there was one of the previews that said 843 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,800 this is like this generation's 844 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,800 or maybe like this year's Super Mario Odyssey. 845 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,000 And I was like, oh, I need that on my team. 846 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,040 And it is apparently not. 847 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,000 It seems like people are enjoying it, 848 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,440 Farron, well enough. 849 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,640 This is a game where you play as this, 850 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,800 I think she's like a girl in Hawaii 851 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,880 or maybe one of the Pacific Islands. 852 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,160 Or maybe it's not, inspired by New Caledonia. 853 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,120 I don't even know where that is. 854 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,160 Ooh, you know. 855 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,160 Hitbox, we're about to learn something. 856 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,920 It is in Oceania, so it's over by Australia. 857 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,280 I was gonna be like, you're making even less sense. 858 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,880 Oceania, isn't that like. 859 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,360 Maps. 860 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,240 I'm gonna tell you where New Caledonia is. 861 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,600 Have you ever gone down that rabbit hole 862 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,600 while you're looking this up? 863 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,760 People who like will have an image 864 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,280 and they tell you where it is in the world, 865 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,440 they'll like put a pin down 866 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,200 and whoever gets the closest wins. 867 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,560 Oh, that's like a game, isn't it? 868 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,240 Yeah, man, that makes me feel small and stupid 869 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,080 and very sheltered. 870 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,960 So, I don't know if we're all super familiar 871 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680 with our Oceania geography, 872 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,280 but I'll give you a little bit of it. 873 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,880 New Caledonia is across the Coral Sea 874 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,600 from Australia, so that is to the east of Australia, 875 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,000 like central, eastern Australia, 876 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,400 really, northeastern Australia, rather. 877 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,960 It is across the Coral Sea to the east. 878 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,320 Coral Sea. 879 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,680 North of New Zealand by quite a bit, 880 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,680 a little bit west of Fiji, Tonga, and Samoa. 881 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,440 So, there you go. 882 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,200 Cool, the more you know, the more you know. 883 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,920 So, it's pretty southwest of Hawaii, 884 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,840 if that also helps, 885 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,000 like a fair amount southwest of Hawaii. 886 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,640 Anyway, Justin, Chia, you play as this little girl 887 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,640 who has the power to take control of any animal or object 888 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,560 and so you can fly like a seagull 889 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,560 or turn into like a little shell or something, 890 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,000 or like a banana and like roll around 891 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,040 and it's like used to like platform and puzzle 892 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,600 and all that sort of stuff. 893 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,000 I'm gonna be picking it up this week for work, 894 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,840 so I will let you know how I feel about it next week. 895 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,080 I'm not gonna be picking this up 896 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,840 because I got my second game to be launched on PS Plus 897 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,440 that I still haven't canceled, 898 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,600 premium or whatever I got, 899 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,840 because it's free on that service. 900 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,840 So, you're not gonna pick it up even though it's free? 901 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,800 Well, no, no, no, like I'm not gonna buy it. 902 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,520 Purchase it, yes, this is free for all. 903 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,360 I'm gonna download it. 904 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,000 To me, from what I'm seeing, 905 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,400 it's just like a very like pretty looking game, 906 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,960 has some running issues to it. 907 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,200 The combat is very basic. 908 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,200 The powers to possess things really come down to, 909 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,600 you wanna possess birds because you can fly quick, 910 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,280 everything else is just kinda like fine. 911 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,080 The mechanics look very similar to what you would see 912 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,320 in Breath of the Wild, obviously like a lot of gliding. 913 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,240 They did add this mechanic to like get on a tree 914 00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:00,880 and get flung by the tree to give you 915 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,000 a little bit of momentum, so there's a little bit more 916 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,040 speed and movement with it. 917 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,040 So I think some interesting things about it, 918 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,400 but I feel like I'll be playing this game and be like, 919 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,360 well, any minute now, I'm gonna get Tears of the Kingdom. 920 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,880 Sure, that's fair, that's fair. 921 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,720 There is also a last of a style ukulele playing mechanic. 922 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,160 Do you remember when you're missing a finger 923 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,720 and it's really hard to play? 924 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,320 I do. 925 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,880 Maybe that'll happen in Chia. 926 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,040 You fucking imagine. 927 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,880 Equally as impactful. 928 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,520 Like if the game is just as gory. 929 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,760 Yeah, that's what they don't tell you about it. 930 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,360 Last thing in the Metacritic roundup here is Tetris, 931 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,840 the movie by Apple TV. 932 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,440 It has a 59. 933 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,920 We talked about this a little bit. 934 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,880 I read the book Tetris, The Games We Play, 935 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:54,960 and was surprised to see that this was like 936 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,340 an espionage thriller movie because, 937 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,960 well, that wasn't how it was in the book. 938 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,200 To be honest, to be honest, I'm not gonna watch this, 939 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,640 to be clear, this is starring Taron Eagerton 940 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,880 and no one else that I recognize here 941 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,880 just off of the castles here. 942 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,560 Listen, Ben Miles is gonna be really upset 943 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,880 you don't know him. 944 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,760 Toby Jones, also just equally as upset. 945 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,240 Rick Youn is like, come on, Peter, 946 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,400 we went to grammar school together. 947 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,560 Rick Youn, not really in, he was on Olympus has Fallen. 948 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,280 Yeah, remember that film? 949 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,800 I thought that was a fun movie. 950 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,640 With God of the. 951 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,400 Is that Morgan Freeman and Gerard Butler? 952 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,960 It is, that's a good flick. 953 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,000 Oh, that's pretty cool actually. 954 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,920 I liked it. 955 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,160 Six Degrees of Gerard Butler. 956 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,440 Olympus has Fallen. 957 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,320 Yeah, no, so Tetris, the movie though, 958 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,240 it's interesting because like I said, 959 00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:05,680 the book, it wasn't like a spy thriller story, 960 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,680 it was more of an interesting corporate business story. 961 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,200 And I thought it was actually quite interesting 962 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,480 and I'm a little bit disappointed to see 963 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,360 that it's not taking that route with it, 964 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,280 that it's going for more of a suspense thriller 965 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,120 sort of thing. 966 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,320 Because I think the corporate stuff 967 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,200 is actually very interesting. 968 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,200 Basically, a guy got the rights to publish Tetris 969 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,080 worldwide from the maker. 970 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,080 His name's like Alexi something is the name of the, 971 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,920 Alexi Pajitatov, he's the guy who made Tetris. 972 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,480 And he basically gave the rights to publish it 973 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,480 to some guy in Europe. 974 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,160 And that guy misunderstood their communications 975 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,600 because it was like 1960 or 1980 maybe. 976 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,640 And basically they misunderstood each other 977 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,720 because of the translations and everything like that. 978 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:03,600 And basically this guy thought he had the rights 979 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,080 for all of Tetris and that he could then sell the rights. 980 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,440 So he basically sold the rights to three different companies, 981 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,640 one for the PC publishing, 982 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,560 one for handheld gaming publishing 983 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,480 and one for console publishing. 984 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,360 So basically he sold it to those, 985 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,320 to, I don't remember who was the PC one, 986 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,080 but then the handheld gaming one was to Nintendo. 987 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,920 And then the other one was to Atari. 988 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,840 The console gaming one was to Atari. 989 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,200 But when he sold it to Nintendo, 990 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,400 Nintendo thought that they had the rights to publish it 991 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,280 for both handhelds and consoles. 992 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,920 So then Nintendo and Atari get into a legal battle 993 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,680 and then they come talk to this guy. 994 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,120 And then that guy comes back to the Russian government. 995 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,720 It's like, I'm in some trouble here. 996 00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:48,920 And then so they have to get all of them 997 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,120 to talk with each other. 998 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,720 And it's a very interesting story. 999 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,480 And I think that would be a very interesting movie 1000 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,760 in my opinion, but they took a different route with it, 1001 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,800 but whatever, I'm not gonna watch this. 1002 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,640 Oh, I mean. 1003 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,240 Read the book, it's pretty good. 1004 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,640 I might, this might be one of those ones I'll watch 1005 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,480 and then read. 1006 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,560 I mean, it's not Apple TV Plus, 1007 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,720 I gotta justify having that. 1008 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,040 Ted Lasso's out right now, I've been watching that, good show. 1009 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,880 Is it good? 1010 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,720 I've been watching. 1011 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:13,540 I know we talked about that, 1012 00:39:13,540 --> 00:39:15,040 but there's just some good moments. 1013 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,000 I just, something about that makes me, 1014 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,840 I'm done watching it. 1015 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,160 I'm gonna be positive today, you know what I mean? 1016 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,000 I'm gonna be positive. 1017 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,840 I'm gonna watch this Tetris movie, 1018 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,840 I'm gonna smile about it. 1019 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,640 Yeah, I'll do that. 1020 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,520 Maybe they watched Kingsman with Taron Egerton 1021 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:27,800 and they were like, well, we gotta do some of that 1022 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,200 in the Tetris movie. 1023 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,400 Is the Kingsman 2 also, has some awesome scenes in it 1024 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,680 involving Elton John? 1025 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,080 From my memory, yeah. 1026 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,160 It's not as good as the first one, 1027 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,880 but I certainly enjoyed it. 1028 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,440 Good fight scenes in there, good moments. 1029 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,920 Yeah, I wouldn't say it's a flick 1030 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,040 that everyone should see. 1031 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,960 I wouldn't say it's an essential action movie 1032 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,360 in the way that Kingsman 1 is. 1033 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,240 And also, The King's Man, I think I liked okay. 1034 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,760 That was fine. 1035 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,960 In The King's Man 2, there's a meat grinder 1036 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,580 as one of the central. 1037 00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:09,200 Pedro Pascal? 1038 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,720 Oh my God, that's Pedro Pascal. 1039 00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:12,120 That is Pedro Pascal. 1040 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:12,960 Wow. 1041 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,880 I'm seeing, he is so memeable right now on the TikToks. 1042 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,680 Dude, he's big. 1043 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,080 The one of him just eating. 1044 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,080 He had a pretty good Hot Ones interview. 1045 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,680 Let's talk about the news, 1046 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,600 if I can direct us to gaming news, is that okay? 1047 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,040 Yeah, all two stories. 1048 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,880 Yeah. 1049 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:32,720 Yeah. 1050 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,600 Starfield, Justin, is nearly upon us. 1051 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,760 I mean, we've still got a while yet until it comes out. 1052 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,000 But as all games must, 1053 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,640 it is being looked at by content advisory boards 1054 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,000 and so far has received an 18 plus rating in Australia 1055 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,520 due to its depiction of interactive drug use. 1056 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,240 It has a PEGI 18 in Europe and an ESRB M rated, 1057 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:06,120 that's 17 and up, in the US. 1058 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:11,120 Notably, while it does have that drug use in it 1059 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,640 as outlined by the Australian government, 1060 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,760 apparently there's not a whole lot of romance. 1061 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,120 And by that I mean, no one's fucking in Starfield. 1062 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:28,120 Apparently it's just not listed for anything like that. 1063 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,480 Well, it's just when you're in space, 1064 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,000 the mechanics of that are really hard. 1065 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,200 Either way, has anyone ever had sex in space before? 1066 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,040 Um. 1067 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,760 I feel like this is a Google moment. 1068 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,040 I'm gonna, I'm in an incognito tab 1069 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,160 because I feel like this could also be 1070 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,680 a very specific fetish. 1071 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,680 Has anyone ever had sex in space? 1072 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,200 Uh, no. 1073 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,840 I mean, they insist that they have not. 1074 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,600 But American astronauts, this is according to dw.com, 1075 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,600 don't know about it. 1076 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,560 American astronauts famously avoid the topic. 1077 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,680 The few experiments that have been conducted on SpaceX 1078 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,280 focused on animals, not humans. 1079 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,800 So there's, wait a second. 1080 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,600 That's a very specific, very specific, 1081 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,520 very specific clarification. 1082 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,480 Few experiments conducted with animals, not humans. 1083 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,560 Um, okay, so there is a Wikipedia page for sex in space. 1084 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,600 And it is fucking wild. 1085 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,760 Pulled up, pulled up. 1086 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,840 Um, there's a lot here. 1087 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,360 Basically, I'm looking under the planned attempts tab 1088 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,680 where it says in June 2015. 1089 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,160 I don't know, I don't know if we can, I, 1090 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,280 Justin, we've never talked about the type of content 1091 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,120 that we want on our programming, on our show. 1092 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,600 We're just reporting news. 1093 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,440 This is. 1094 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,280 Can we talk about this? 1095 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,440 This NASA? 1096 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,400 This is from another website. 1097 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,240 Oh. 1098 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,840 Let's call it an adult website. 1099 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,200 I mean, like, I don't wanna, okay. 1100 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,400 In 2015, an adult website, one that is 1101 00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:09,000 widely renowned and pretty famous. 1102 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,520 You might be able to guess it. 1103 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,880 IGN. 1104 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,880 Yep, planned, announces plans to make 1105 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,280 its first ever film in space. 1106 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,520 It had a crowdfunding campaign for the movie, 1107 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,880 which is called Sexploration. 1108 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,320 It received $3.4 million in 60 days. 1109 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,160 God. 1110 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,600 Oh no, it wanted to receive. 1111 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,560 Oh, okay. 1112 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,200 Yeah, it only raised. 1113 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,840 People want that. 1114 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,800 236,000. 1115 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,960 It just didn't happen. 1116 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:39,800 Love him or hate him. 1117 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,320 If you want someone to back this, 1118 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,760 you need to let Elon Musk know that this, 1119 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,560 we must do this right now. 1120 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,400 Oh, he's such a fucking child 1121 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,240 that he would make it his ultimate goal. 1122 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,560 To do that, yeah. 1123 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,920 He's just such a, like, 1124 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,080 let's, what if we did Sex in Space? 1125 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,480 So basically what you're telling me is that 1126 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,640 Bethesda was like, we did our research. 1127 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,760 It's not been done, nor are we. 1128 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,280 We're gonna be the most realistic 1129 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,000 space simulator game ever. 1130 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,560 Simulate drug use, great. 1131 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,880 You can do that in space. 1132 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,000 No sex, hasn't been done. 1133 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,840 We don't know. 1134 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:14,800 We don't know the physics. 1135 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,360 Bethesda said, in space? 1136 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,520 Not on our watch. 1137 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,480 But, well, yeah. 1138 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,640 So I don't know. 1139 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,720 I always think it's interesting. 1140 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,320 We talked about this with Xenoblade Chronicles 3. 1141 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,200 I always find these leaked content 1142 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,560 from ESRB ratings and stuff kind of silly. 1143 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,480 Not silly, it's just funny to read about these moments 1144 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,560 completely out of context. 1145 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,720 Or if you remember, they listed all of the swear words 1146 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:42,040 in Xenoblade Chronicles 3 and I was like, 1147 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,720 oh, this is kind of funny. 1148 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:45,520 All of them said by Uni. 1149 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,360 Yeah. 1150 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,400 Hear that, Noah? 1151 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,960 Lance wants something a bit meatier. 1152 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,120 That's one of the fours. Is that a swear word? 1153 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:52,960 I don't know. 1154 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,800 What? 1155 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,120 What, meatier? 1156 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,560 Lance wants something meatier. 1157 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,560 What a good game. 1158 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,800 What a 10 out of 10 game of the year 1159 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,640 that we didn't give game of the year. 1160 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,800 And I didn't give it a 10 out of 10. 1161 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,120 I gave it an eight out of 10 on Game Skinny. 1162 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,240 Should have given it a 10 out of 10. 1163 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:08,080 Let's just end with it. 1164 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,320 No, I think you would give it a 10 out of 10 1165 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,080 after playing it for 70 hours, 60 hours. 1166 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,400 Having finished it, yes. 1167 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,920 In the middle of it, I don't know. 1168 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,280 But isn't that a problem? 1169 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,560 You stick by your choice. 1170 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,080 Yeah, I would stand by it. 1171 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,920 Yeah. 1172 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,040 It was good. I liked it. 1173 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:24,840 Clearly. 1174 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:26,720 I don't know. 1175 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:28,600 There's not much else to say about this. 1176 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,960 I think we said everything that could be said about it. 1177 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,040 And then some. 1178 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,160 In a very different way than I imagined it would go. 1179 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,000 And then some. 1180 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,520 There's a new Persona 5 spin-off again. 1181 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,280 It's called Persona 5 The Phantom X. 1182 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,760 And it's a mobile game, and it's only gonna be in China. 1183 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,960 And I'm upset about it because 1184 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,120 now that I have a beefy smartphone, 1185 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,160 I'm looking for games to play. 1186 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,280 I know that when Zenla Zone Zero comes out, 1187 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,360 that's the follow-up. 1188 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,000 Who makes Genshin Impact? 1189 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:02,840 Mihoyo? 1190 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,880 Sure, I think that's their name. 1191 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,720 That's a game. 1192 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:07,880 When that comes out, that's gonna be 1193 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,040 one of those mobile games. 1194 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,320 I'm gonna give it a try on this here. 1195 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,720 Galaxy S23 Ultra. 1196 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:16,400 We're gonna see how it goes. 1197 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,560 But Persona 5 The Phantom X, 1198 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,200 I watched the trailer for. 1199 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,760 Have you watched, did you watch it? 1200 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,760 Yeah, yeah, I mean, it looks like a Persona 5-ass game. 1201 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,000 It looks, I mean, it's like, you know, not copying. 1202 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,160 I say that in a positive, 1203 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,120 I know my tone seemed a little bit negative, 1204 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,240 but I mean, it looks like a Persona 5. 1205 00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:36,080 It looks great, yeah. 1206 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,080 It's got the style, the animation, the characters, 1207 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,480 turn-based exploration, you're in the car, 1208 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,800 you don't have Morgana, you have something else. 1209 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,920 Something else, yeah. 1210 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,400 The Velvet Room is in Aquarium, which looks awesome. 1211 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,520 Is it spoiling anything? 1212 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,440 Does Morgana ever turn, do you ever find out 1213 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,000 why Morgana is a cat? 1214 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,400 Yes. 1215 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,200 Is it like a big reveal? 1216 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,560 It is a big reveal. 1217 00:46:58,720 --> 00:46:59,560 I mean, like, 1218 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,800 like, I'm not gonna spoil Persona 5, 1219 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,560 but it is something that, like, Morgana's character, 1220 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,560 like, it's pretty essential to his character. 1221 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,800 And by the time, like, it is revealed, 1222 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,720 he's been going on about it for about 80 hours, 1223 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:19,240 maybe even 90, it's pretty late in the game. 1224 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:23,080 And like, for me personally, I was like, 1225 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,760 yeah, like, this was not as big of a deal. 1226 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,280 Not the A-plot I was expecting. 1227 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,320 Right, like, this was not as big of a deal. 1228 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,640 Like, I could've kinda seen where this is coming from. 1229 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,640 But yes, they wrap it up in an interesting way. 1230 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,680 And in Royal, too, especially, it 1231 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,560 expands on that a little bit more 1232 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,840 in a way that I think is pretty fun, and also troubling. 1233 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,440 Oh, okay, wow, okay. 1234 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,240 Like, when it's all resolved, you're like, 1235 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:49,360 okay, good, good, good, good. 1236 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,920 But when you think that it's resolved, 1237 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,040 it's a little bit like, huh, interesting. 1238 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:53,880 Interesting. 1239 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,480 But this Persona 5, the Phantom X, 1240 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,200 should it ever release in the States, 1241 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,840 I will play it, I would like to. 1242 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,480 I mean, it looks like more Persona 5, 1243 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,720 and if I can play Persona 5 on my phone, 1244 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:09,040 you know that I'm about that shit. 1245 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,880 And what if it doesn't release, what are you gonna do? 1246 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,480 Just let it sit there and not thinking about it? 1247 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,480 I will go on with my life. 1248 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,360 You're not gonna learn a different language 1249 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,280 or just struggle through. 1250 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,400 Maybe I'll learn how to speak, 1251 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,800 there's been like four languages in China, 1252 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,160 like which one do you think this is? 1253 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,480 Does it say in this article here? 1254 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,320 It doesn't. 1255 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,640 Yeah, I don't know, I'll be interested to see this 1256 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,640 if it ever comes out here. 1257 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,280 I would definitely play through all of this 1258 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,560 to at least talk about it. 1259 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,400 Although, listen, I love Persona 5, 1260 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,360 and as I play more of Persona 4, by the way, 1261 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,400 it just makes me think, damn, I fucking love Persona 5. 1262 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,920 Do you think, does the game translate 1263 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,920 to having mobile game gacha mechanics? 1264 00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:52,720 Is that gonna ruin the game, do you think? 1265 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:55,120 Yeah, so I saw that it's like a gacha game. 1266 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,360 I assume that it's just like the Personas you have. 1267 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,200 Oh, okay. 1268 00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,840 Which are already kind of a crap shoot, 1269 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:00,680 you know what I mean? 1270 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,760 And I never get attached to them 1271 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,280 because it's just like as soon as they are not useful 1272 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,320 anymore, I just fucking ice them or fuse them. 1273 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,160 Oh, wow, jeez. 1274 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,000 You know what I mean? 1275 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,520 I'm never gonna give you a pet. 1276 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,880 No, I mean, would it ever not be useful anymore 1277 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:13,920 in terms of looking cute and being cute? 1278 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,840 I've been questioning my dog's usefulness 1279 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,480 since the day we got him. 1280 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,880 So then it's good that you have him and not me, I guess. 1281 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,880 Yeah, I am hoping that this comes out here. 1282 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,400 I don't know, I would like to play it. 1283 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,080 But I'm also just ready for Persona 6. 1284 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,640 Hey, Atlas, get on that. 1285 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,240 What if they release this game and the ax actually, 1286 00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:39,920 it's Persona 5, the Phantom Axe, 1287 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,240 but they cross out the five and they put a six in there? 1288 00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:44,080 I would be, I mean, 1289 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,120 Resident Evil 6. 1290 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,480 And it's actually just the Resident Evil 6 remake. 1291 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:49,880 We all want it. 1292 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,040 If it was a Resident Evil, 1293 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,720 if they remade Resident Evil 6 in a style of Persona 5, 1294 00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:55,560 I'd play it. 1295 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:56,720 Have you seen like there's all these things 1296 00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:59,280 like someone used Lego to remake Resident Evil 4, 1297 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,000 like the opening scene from it. 1298 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:01,840 That's awesome. 1299 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,400 Then there was like a Studio Ghibli thing 1300 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,520 that had like in the style of that, but part of the remake. 1301 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,800 That's what we need. 1302 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:09,640 I love that. 1303 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,480 That's great. 1304 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,480 There's also a mod that you can have. 1305 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,320 Is Dick out? 1306 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,160 I saw that. 1307 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,320 Are we talking about the same thing? 1308 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,240 I mean, we could. 1309 00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:19,680 Yeah, sure. 1310 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,800 Well, what was your thing? 1311 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,760 I was gonna say CJ from Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. 1312 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,600 Oh. 1313 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,420 No, I wasn't. 1314 00:50:25,420 --> 00:50:26,260 I was telling you to say the other one. 1315 00:50:26,260 --> 00:50:31,260 This is our, this is our sassiest episode yet, man. 1316 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,440 That's the title. 1317 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,520 Yeah. 1318 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,280 Yeah, we got there. 1319 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,360 Yeah, I mean, like I love Persona 5, but I'm also ready. 1320 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,200 I'm ready for more. 1321 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,920 I'm ready for something new, something fresh. 1322 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:46,760 You know what I mean? 1323 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,320 And like, I know that, you know, 1324 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,120 hey, it's making them a lot of money 1325 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,080 because people fucking love it. 1326 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,920 I love it. 1327 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,000 You know, I liked Persona 5 Strikers. 1328 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,520 I played, you know, two hours of Dancing in the Starlight. 1329 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,540 You know, I, 1330 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,360 I love Persona 5 specifically, 1331 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,080 but I'm ready for the next step. 1332 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,560 Because if you look at like in playing Persona 4 Golden, 1333 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:07,720 like compared to Persona 5, 1334 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:10,360 like it's clear like that they just, 1335 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,280 they took everything in Persona 4 Golden 1336 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,100 and just like cranked everything up to 10. 1337 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,480 And then that's Persona 5. 1338 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,520 And that's why I love it. 1339 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,480 And that's why I'm like a little bit less in love 1340 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,640 with Persona 4 Golden. 1341 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,160 P4G is the title screen calls it. 1342 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,280 Old games are old. 1343 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,120 Yeah. 1344 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:26,960 Yeah, right, exactly. 1345 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,200 So like, if they do that, if they turn everything up to 11, 1346 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,400 it's a little Spinal Tap reference for you. 1347 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,120 For Persona 6, like, come on, I'm here for it. 1348 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,240 Spinal Tap's a music group, right? 1349 00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,280 It is a mockumentary movie. 1350 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,120 I was close. 1351 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,800 It's about like a rock band. 1352 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:43,640 Oh, okay, good. 1353 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,840 I was like, oh, we're gonna miss. 1354 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,800 And the joke in the movies that their amps all go up to 11 1355 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,880 because, well, 10 was just not enough. 1356 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,360 It's just, yeah, you go higher. 1357 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,200 Always go higher. 1358 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,440 Justin, here's something sad. 1359 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,880 Lance Reddick died. 1360 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,880 And he is, like, in terms of video games, 1361 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,420 he is Commander Zavala in Destiny, Destiny 2. 1362 00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:12,280 I've never played that, so I can't really speak to that, 1363 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,620 but I knew him most from, he's the concierge 1364 00:52:15,620 --> 00:52:17,940 in the John Wick series. 1365 00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:20,580 Like, he was literally doing press touring for that. 1366 00:52:20,580 --> 00:52:24,580 Yeah, he's also the bad guy in Horizon Zero Dawn 1367 00:52:24,580 --> 00:52:27,000 and Forbidden West, which when he appeared 1368 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,640 in Horizon Zero Dawn, when I was playing that through 1369 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,180 the first time, I was like, fucking, finally, 1370 00:52:32,180 --> 00:52:34,100 someone interesting and good. 1371 00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:37,300 Like, thank you for being in this game, Lance Reddick. 1372 00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:40,380 He's also, he was like a bad guy in Quantum Break as well. 1373 00:52:42,460 --> 00:52:43,300 He's in the Wire. 1374 00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:44,140 Resident Evil TV series, right? 1375 00:52:44,140 --> 00:52:44,980 Resident Evil TV series? 1376 00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:47,340 Oh yeah, he played Wesker in that apparently terrible 1377 00:52:47,340 --> 00:52:48,780 Resident Evil Netflix show. 1378 00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:52,580 Yeah, I mean, he's pretty great, 1379 00:52:52,580 --> 00:52:54,980 and I am a huge fan of him. 1380 00:52:54,980 --> 00:52:56,900 I was a big fan of his Twitter account, too. 1381 00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:59,180 He would tweet videos of him and his dogs 1382 00:52:59,180 --> 00:53:00,460 and stuff like that. 1383 00:53:00,460 --> 00:53:01,820 It's very sad, I don't know. 1384 00:53:01,820 --> 00:53:06,540 But he, basically, based on the people who knew him 1385 00:53:06,540 --> 00:53:08,820 and met with him in the games industry and talked with him, 1386 00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:12,860 he seemed to be someone who was just a true delight. 1387 00:53:12,860 --> 00:53:17,860 And so in Destiny 2, there are players, 1388 00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:20,900 like in the hub world, I assume, 1389 00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:22,740 again, I'm not really familiar with it, 1390 00:53:22,740 --> 00:53:25,900 players have been going up to Commander Zavala 1391 00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:27,460 and paying their respects, I assume, 1392 00:53:27,460 --> 00:53:30,160 by just hanging out and doing emotes and stuff like that 1393 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,220 in front of him and everything like that. 1394 00:53:32,220 --> 00:53:34,620 In fact, I'm getting a little choked up talking about it 1395 00:53:34,620 --> 00:53:35,980 because it makes me sad. 1396 00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:39,260 He died, he died very young, very, you know what I'm saying, 1397 00:53:39,260 --> 00:53:40,100 he was 60. 1398 00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:41,380 Before his time, before his time. 1399 00:53:41,380 --> 00:53:42,780 Yeah. 1400 00:53:42,780 --> 00:53:45,620 Yeah, I think that's such a cool way to have that 1401 00:53:45,620 --> 00:53:48,260 video game tribute, so to speak, 1402 00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:51,860 and just kinda shows you how important he was 1403 00:53:51,860 --> 00:53:55,060 to people in games and his voice is so distinct 1404 00:53:55,060 --> 00:53:57,260 and well known and, you know. 1405 00:53:57,260 --> 00:53:59,420 He's so, his voice is so unique, 1406 00:53:59,420 --> 00:54:01,340 the way he articulates everything, yeah, go on, sorry. 1407 00:54:01,340 --> 00:54:02,980 He's always like, are you a bad guy? 1408 00:54:02,980 --> 00:54:04,440 Are you a good guy? 1409 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,940 You're gonna be so good at that, you know what I mean? 1410 00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:06,780 Yeah, you're like, what's your deal? 1411 00:54:06,780 --> 00:54:08,460 Always questioning, always questioning. 1412 00:54:08,460 --> 00:54:09,300 Yeah. 1413 00:54:10,220 --> 00:54:11,580 Very, very sad, I don't know, 1414 00:54:11,580 --> 00:54:15,380 Josh broke the news to me, I had to sit down. 1415 00:54:15,380 --> 00:54:18,340 I was cooking dinner and I was like, 1416 00:54:18,340 --> 00:54:21,340 I'm heartbroken, it was sad. 1417 00:54:21,340 --> 00:54:22,900 Yeah. 1418 00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:24,060 I will miss Lance Reddick. 1419 00:54:24,060 --> 00:54:26,200 I always, every time he showed up in a game 1420 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,060 or in a movie or whatever, 1421 00:54:27,060 --> 00:54:29,460 I was always very excited to see him, so. 1422 00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:32,420 That is a bummer. 1423 00:54:33,620 --> 00:54:36,420 Last of Us, there's been a handful, 1424 00:54:36,420 --> 00:54:38,080 I mean, you know, with the TV show, 1425 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,540 it's been in the news a lot 1426 00:54:39,540 --> 00:54:42,100 and there have been a lot of details 1427 00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:43,980 because people have been like, so where's Last of Us 3? 1428 00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:45,140 Or people have been asking about, 1429 00:54:45,140 --> 00:54:47,240 where's season two and whatever like that. 1430 00:54:48,980 --> 00:54:51,700 Oh hey, also I meant to, I said I would mention this later. 1431 00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:55,620 I saw Nick Offerman, he played guitar for everyone. 1432 00:54:55,620 --> 00:54:57,580 He sang his little songs that he wrote. 1433 00:54:57,580 --> 00:54:59,260 That was so, I didn't mean it like that. 1434 00:54:59,260 --> 00:55:01,500 He played a bunch of songs that were funny. 1435 00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:04,680 And he also played the song from the show. 1436 00:55:05,580 --> 00:55:06,420 What? 1437 00:55:10,260 --> 00:55:13,340 Love will abide, take things in stride. 1438 00:55:13,340 --> 00:55:14,180 Yeah, it was very sweet. 1439 00:55:14,180 --> 00:55:15,260 And he interrupted himself. 1440 00:55:15,260 --> 00:55:16,820 He almost got to the end of it 1441 00:55:16,820 --> 00:55:18,620 and he just stopped and goes, 1442 00:55:18,620 --> 00:55:21,060 so any homophobes in here? 1443 00:55:21,060 --> 00:55:26,060 That's really good. 1444 00:55:26,340 --> 00:55:27,980 And one guy goes, woo. 1445 00:55:27,980 --> 00:55:29,660 And he stops and he sort of looks in that direction 1446 00:55:29,660 --> 00:55:31,660 and goes, well I appreciate your honesty. 1447 00:55:32,580 --> 00:55:33,420 But. 1448 00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:37,060 Wow, okay, I was not expecting that. 1449 00:55:37,060 --> 00:55:37,900 No. 1450 00:55:37,900 --> 00:55:39,860 Thanks for bringing me out of that. 1451 00:55:39,860 --> 00:55:42,580 Yeah, so a handful of things with The Last of Us. 1452 00:55:42,580 --> 00:55:45,340 Let's talk about the game first. 1453 00:55:45,340 --> 00:55:50,020 Apparently, they scrapped an idea 1454 00:55:50,020 --> 00:55:55,020 for a prequel game for Ellie's mom, Anna, 1455 00:55:56,420 --> 00:55:58,500 who we've known about through comics and stuff like that. 1456 00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:01,380 And then we finally saw, portrayed by Ashley Johnson 1457 00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:04,540 in the final episode of the series, of the TV show. 1458 00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:12,300 And basically, this was an interview with Variety. 1459 00:56:12,340 --> 00:56:14,700 Neil Druckmann basically said, he said this, 1460 00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:17,360 there was some stuff written for the mom and dad 1461 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,960 when we were talking to this other game studio 1462 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,100 to potentially do a whole Anna game. 1463 00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:23,620 I'm reluctant to say anything about it 1464 00:56:23,620 --> 00:56:25,460 because as I've now found out several times, 1465 00:56:25,460 --> 00:56:26,940 stories that I think are failures 1466 00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:28,100 and will never see the light of day, 1467 00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:30,220 sometimes see the light of day. 1468 00:56:30,220 --> 00:56:32,900 So he also goes on to say that like. 1469 00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:34,540 He could have just said, we'll see the light. 1470 00:56:34,540 --> 00:56:36,780 He just missed that, missed a quoteable moment. 1471 00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:37,900 He really did. 1472 00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:40,020 And he says, I wrote this short script about Ellie's mom 1473 00:56:40,020 --> 00:56:41,120 and how she gave birth to Ellie 1474 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,380 and was bitten at the same time 1475 00:56:42,380 --> 00:56:44,820 and wasn't sure if she was infected during that birth. 1476 00:56:44,820 --> 00:56:46,420 And this became a little character drama 1477 00:56:46,420 --> 00:56:49,060 that spoke to the same themes of parental love 1478 00:56:49,060 --> 00:56:52,740 for their child and how much they're willing to do 1479 00:56:52,740 --> 00:56:54,620 even when you're on Death's Door. 1480 00:56:54,620 --> 00:56:58,120 So again, never say never about this sort of thing. 1481 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,660 But I think at this point, we've seen it in the show. 1482 00:57:01,660 --> 00:57:04,980 And I don't know, would you want a game about this? 1483 00:57:04,980 --> 00:57:06,420 I wouldn't. 1484 00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:08,740 I don't know if we need a full game about it, 1485 00:57:08,740 --> 00:57:12,060 but I feel like there's so many ways to weave that story 1486 00:57:12,060 --> 00:57:13,860 into a narrative that makes sense. 1487 00:57:13,860 --> 00:57:15,260 We've already played around 1488 00:57:15,260 --> 00:57:16,780 with multiple playable characters 1489 00:57:16,780 --> 00:57:21,600 in both versions of the game, both games in it. 1490 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,660 And I think, I don't know, 1491 00:57:24,660 --> 00:57:26,260 I think it could be interesting 1492 00:57:26,260 --> 00:57:31,260 to tie up part of Ellie's story a little bit 1493 00:57:31,420 --> 00:57:34,980 in a way to find out more about what her mom was like, 1494 00:57:34,980 --> 00:57:37,460 build that character, maybe makes more sense 1495 00:57:37,460 --> 00:57:39,640 about who Ellie is and how she becomes. 1496 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:40,900 I don't know what their theme is. 1497 00:57:40,900 --> 00:57:42,580 Like, did they ever say what the theme 1498 00:57:42,580 --> 00:57:44,220 of the third game is gonna be? 1499 00:57:44,220 --> 00:57:46,740 Season one's about love, season two's about hate. 1500 00:57:46,740 --> 00:57:48,660 Season three's about indigestion. 1501 00:57:48,660 --> 00:57:50,420 Like, what's that gonna be? 1502 00:57:50,420 --> 00:57:51,540 Yeah, I know what you're saying. 1503 00:57:51,540 --> 00:57:53,300 And they walked that back, too, after the game came out. 1504 00:57:53,300 --> 00:57:55,100 They were like, no, it was just a line. 1505 00:57:56,700 --> 00:58:00,300 Yeah, I think I would probably agree with you. 1506 00:58:00,300 --> 00:58:01,740 I mean, just like off the hip, 1507 00:58:01,740 --> 00:58:02,780 I'm like, no, I don't think we need that. 1508 00:58:02,780 --> 00:58:04,780 But then I think, in hearing you say that, 1509 00:58:04,780 --> 00:58:06,340 yeah, I think it could potentially be kind of cool 1510 00:58:06,340 --> 00:58:07,980 to have the juxtaposition of, 1511 00:58:07,980 --> 00:58:09,140 here's what Ellie's mom went through, 1512 00:58:09,140 --> 00:58:10,540 and here's what Ellie is going through, 1513 00:58:10,540 --> 00:58:11,780 because she's a mom, you know what I mean, 1514 00:58:11,780 --> 00:58:14,180 with JJ and whatever. 1515 00:58:14,180 --> 00:58:16,340 So I think fatherhood was such a strong theme 1516 00:58:16,340 --> 00:58:19,140 of the first one, and in the second one, to some degree. 1517 00:58:19,140 --> 00:58:21,180 But to have motherhood be a theme, 1518 00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:22,020 I think it'd be kind of cool, 1519 00:58:22,020 --> 00:58:23,940 especially because that's just not a theme in video games. 1520 00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:25,220 Moms die in video games. 1521 00:58:25,220 --> 00:58:27,660 That's their role in video games, and that sucks. 1522 00:58:27,660 --> 00:58:29,540 So it'd be kind of cool to have that be 1523 00:58:30,420 --> 00:58:32,340 like an explored theme in a game. 1524 00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:37,220 Do you remember how, in the previews for Last of Us Part II, 1525 00:58:37,220 --> 00:58:38,620 so many people were talking about 1526 00:58:38,620 --> 00:58:41,060 how Abby could have been her mom? 1527 00:58:41,060 --> 00:58:42,500 Like that was one of the common, 1528 00:58:42,500 --> 00:58:44,500 the strands that was coming out. 1529 00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:46,860 So I don't know, I don't think people would have been upset 1530 00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:51,860 with that, so hey, speaking of Abby. 1531 00:58:51,860 --> 00:58:52,700 Yeah. 1532 00:58:55,060 --> 00:58:59,420 Yesterday night, Sunday, March 19th, 1533 00:58:59,420 --> 00:59:01,580 Neil Druckman tweeted, no Last of Us on HBO tonight, 1534 00:59:01,580 --> 00:59:02,780 because obviously the season's over, 1535 00:59:02,780 --> 00:59:04,140 but season two is already on its way, 1536 00:59:04,140 --> 00:59:06,700 Endure and Survive, and tweeted this image of, 1537 00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:08,980 it's just like a hand-drawn, painted kind of thing, 1538 00:59:08,980 --> 00:59:12,540 of a super muscular arm holding a hammer in front 1539 00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:14,860 of a bunch of wrecked stuff in the woods. 1540 00:59:14,860 --> 00:59:18,660 It's obviously very reminiscent of the scene 1541 00:59:18,660 --> 00:59:22,620 where Abby gets the hammer in the woods 1542 00:59:22,620 --> 00:59:24,300 when she meets Yarratt and Lev. 1543 00:59:26,660 --> 00:59:30,660 And I think, who plays Ellie in the show? 1544 00:59:31,740 --> 00:59:35,580 Bella Ramsey said that you shouldn't expect 1545 00:59:35,580 --> 00:59:38,020 Last of Us season two until late 2024, 1546 00:59:38,020 --> 00:59:40,140 early 2025 at the very earliest. 1547 00:59:40,140 --> 00:59:42,660 Hey, I mean, I don't need it right now. 1548 00:59:42,660 --> 00:59:44,020 I can't wait for it though. 1549 00:59:44,940 --> 00:59:47,220 The real question in our household is, 1550 00:59:47,220 --> 00:59:51,300 should I have my wife play the game, 1551 00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:53,500 or watch me play the game? 1552 00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:54,820 The first one or the second one? 1553 00:59:54,820 --> 00:59:55,660 The second one. 1554 00:59:58,620 --> 00:59:59,780 That's actually a very good question. 1555 00:59:59,780 --> 01:00:01,420 I would say yes. 1556 01:00:01,420 --> 01:00:03,660 And I think at the very least, 1557 01:00:03,660 --> 01:00:06,460 there's a really early part that you could get up to 1558 01:00:06,460 --> 01:00:09,780 that would, I think, make it exciting 1559 01:00:09,780 --> 01:00:11,620 about the second season. 1560 01:00:11,620 --> 01:00:12,460 Yep. 1561 01:00:17,980 --> 01:00:19,260 I'm so torn about that. 1562 01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:22,460 To be honest with you, I might not watch 1563 01:00:22,460 --> 01:00:23,860 the second season of the show. 1564 01:00:23,860 --> 01:00:25,220 Dude. 1565 01:00:26,500 --> 01:00:29,900 I'm so, I just don't watch a lot of TV. 1566 01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:31,420 This is the first season of a TV show 1567 01:00:31,420 --> 01:00:34,260 that I've watched in fucking forever. 1568 01:00:34,260 --> 01:00:37,380 That, and I was let down so drastically and whatever, 1569 01:00:37,380 --> 01:00:40,140 and the seeds that it has planted for season two, 1570 01:00:40,140 --> 01:00:42,420 I think have been done so poorly, in my opinion, 1571 01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:44,060 as we talked about in previous episodes, 1572 01:00:44,060 --> 01:00:46,580 that I just might sit it out. 1573 01:00:47,620 --> 01:00:49,820 I don't know, maybe, maybe not. 1574 01:00:49,820 --> 01:00:52,060 It could also be, I don't know, 1575 01:00:52,060 --> 01:00:55,060 I might still watch it out of curiosity and whatever, but. 1576 01:00:57,900 --> 01:00:59,380 You know what I'm saying? 1577 01:00:59,380 --> 01:01:01,420 I feel sad for you that that's your reaction 1578 01:01:01,420 --> 01:01:03,180 to the first season, 1579 01:01:03,180 --> 01:01:05,340 that you don't wanna watch the second season. 1580 01:01:05,340 --> 01:01:06,740 Yeah, I mean, I was pretty let down. 1581 01:01:06,740 --> 01:01:08,660 I think, all in all, I was pretty let down by it. 1582 01:01:08,660 --> 01:01:10,020 I was thinking about it a lot, 1583 01:01:10,020 --> 01:01:13,060 because I really listened to the Linda Rostat song, 1584 01:01:13,060 --> 01:01:14,580 Long, Long Time is what it's called, 1585 01:01:14,580 --> 01:01:18,380 that Bill sings and Fred sings. 1586 01:01:22,660 --> 01:01:24,300 That episode was so good, 1587 01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:27,700 and it had me so hopeful for how they were going to adapt 1588 01:01:27,700 --> 01:01:30,420 the rest of the show, the rest of the game into the show, 1589 01:01:30,420 --> 01:01:31,460 and I think they just, 1590 01:01:31,460 --> 01:01:33,700 I personally just think they really fumbled it 1591 01:01:34,940 --> 01:01:35,940 on a lot of levels, 1592 01:01:35,940 --> 01:01:37,300 but I think on the most important levels 1593 01:01:37,300 --> 01:01:39,300 of the characters of Joel and Ellie. 1594 01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:45,540 So yeah, I don't know, I just might sit it out. 1595 01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:48,060 Who knows, maybe not. 1596 01:01:48,060 --> 01:01:49,300 Well, the good thing is that we don't have to sit 1597 01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:52,300 with both of those characters for very long. 1598 01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:53,340 I guess not, huh? 1599 01:01:54,340 --> 01:01:56,220 I guess, I guess not. 1600 01:01:56,220 --> 01:01:57,460 But okay, here's the thing, though. 1601 01:01:57,460 --> 01:02:00,260 To me, in my cynical brain, 1602 01:02:00,260 --> 01:02:03,020 I think that they would give Joel, 1603 01:02:03,020 --> 01:02:05,820 hey, spoilers for The Last of Us 2, it's three years old. 1604 01:02:07,980 --> 01:02:10,380 I think that they would give Joel a bigger role. 1605 01:02:10,380 --> 01:02:12,140 To me, again, in my cynical brain, 1606 01:02:12,140 --> 01:02:14,380 the way that I view the creation, 1607 01:02:14,380 --> 01:02:16,980 the way that I view the way the creators view 1608 01:02:16,980 --> 01:02:18,660 The Last of Us HBO series, 1609 01:02:18,660 --> 01:02:21,220 I think that they would give Joel a bigger role 1610 01:02:21,220 --> 01:02:23,060 in The Last of Us Part 2, 1611 01:02:23,060 --> 01:02:26,780 because it feels like the show has felt like 1612 01:02:26,780 --> 01:02:31,140 an attempt to correct some of the perceived flaws 1613 01:02:31,140 --> 01:02:32,060 of the game. 1614 01:02:33,620 --> 01:02:35,380 And I think that some people critiqued, 1615 01:02:35,380 --> 01:02:36,740 hey, Joel's not in this very much, 1616 01:02:36,740 --> 01:02:38,820 even though he's in a fair amount of it. 1617 01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:42,820 And I think people didn't like that, 1618 01:02:42,820 --> 01:02:44,780 and I think that they might be inclined 1619 01:02:44,780 --> 01:02:47,380 to change that as a result. 1620 01:02:47,380 --> 01:02:49,100 And I think it'd be worse for it. 1621 01:02:49,100 --> 01:02:51,060 I think, I almost don't know 1622 01:02:51,060 --> 01:02:52,180 if that's what they're gonna do, 1623 01:02:52,180 --> 01:02:56,500 because I feel like even with the first one, 1624 01:02:56,500 --> 01:02:57,580 for all the changes they made, 1625 01:02:57,580 --> 01:02:58,820 they kept the core of the story, 1626 01:02:58,820 --> 01:03:00,700 they kept so many of the shots the same, 1627 01:03:00,700 --> 01:03:02,380 they kept so many of the stuff the same, 1628 01:03:02,380 --> 01:03:05,060 that I don't think they're just going to remake 1629 01:03:08,660 --> 01:03:10,380 the second season. 1630 01:03:10,380 --> 01:03:12,460 They might have to, like, 1631 01:03:12,460 --> 01:03:14,220 because I think part of- 1632 01:03:14,220 --> 01:03:16,180 When you say they kept so much the same, 1633 01:03:16,180 --> 01:03:18,580 that you think that they're not going to do that again? 1634 01:03:20,420 --> 01:03:21,780 You think that they're gonna use, 1635 01:03:21,780 --> 01:03:22,980 be a little bit more adventurous 1636 01:03:22,980 --> 01:03:24,020 with what they do with the second season? 1637 01:03:24,020 --> 01:03:26,020 No, no, no, they're gonna keep that 1638 01:03:26,020 --> 01:03:27,220 for the second season. 1639 01:03:28,740 --> 01:03:31,660 And I think part of the biggest changes, 1640 01:03:32,660 --> 01:03:35,340 minus those intros and outros when they had them, 1641 01:03:35,340 --> 01:03:37,460 was the character portrayals, the actors, 1642 01:03:37,460 --> 01:03:39,180 the way they delivered things, 1643 01:03:39,180 --> 01:03:41,060 the way they were portrayed in there. 1644 01:03:42,140 --> 01:03:44,900 And in terms of actually the craft of it, 1645 01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:46,300 I mean, using that last episode, 1646 01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:47,660 and using so many of the scenes, 1647 01:03:47,660 --> 01:03:50,300 the Pittsburgh, Kansas City car crash, 1648 01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:54,620 the shooting of Marlene at the end 1649 01:03:54,620 --> 01:03:57,580 of the ninth episode, 1650 01:03:58,380 --> 01:04:01,220 like so many of those things were done 1651 01:04:01,220 --> 01:04:03,340 very accurate to the game, 1652 01:04:03,340 --> 01:04:05,460 that I don't think they're just gonna be like, 1653 01:04:05,460 --> 01:04:07,060 well, we're gonna rewrite everything. 1654 01:04:07,060 --> 01:04:09,540 We're gonna totally change how the story is structured, 1655 01:04:09,540 --> 01:04:12,820 because I think part of what makes the sequel 1656 01:04:12,820 --> 01:04:14,660 work narratively, 1657 01:04:14,660 --> 01:04:19,660 is how they cut between present and past, 1658 01:04:20,540 --> 01:04:23,980 in that way, and they tell the story through flashbacks, 1659 01:04:23,980 --> 01:04:26,420 rather than just being a linear story. 1660 01:04:26,420 --> 01:04:29,940 And I feel like that's one of the most affecting moments 1661 01:04:29,940 --> 01:04:30,940 to me, is at the very end, 1662 01:04:30,940 --> 01:04:33,140 the porch scene wasn't expecting that. 1663 01:04:33,140 --> 01:04:35,220 It was what I wanted, I wasn't expecting it, 1664 01:04:35,220 --> 01:04:39,300 and it was both the most satisfying conversation, 1665 01:04:39,300 --> 01:04:42,420 yet the most unsatisfying conversation, 1666 01:04:42,420 --> 01:04:44,660 knowing what happens next. 1667 01:04:44,660 --> 01:04:46,980 But yeah, I don't know, I think, 1668 01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:48,940 yeah, I don't necessarily foresee them 1669 01:04:48,940 --> 01:04:53,660 rewriting problems out of the game. 1670 01:04:56,020 --> 01:04:56,860 I don't know. 1671 01:04:56,860 --> 01:04:58,540 I mean, the show. 1672 01:05:00,220 --> 01:05:03,860 I don't know, obviously, we'll see. 1673 01:05:06,660 --> 01:05:09,100 This season, I think, now that I've sat with it 1674 01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:10,580 and thought more about it, 1675 01:05:10,580 --> 01:05:14,020 and I'm very alone in this opinion of just like, 1676 01:05:14,020 --> 01:05:15,780 complete devastation. 1677 01:05:15,780 --> 01:05:18,860 That makes me so sad that that's how you like it. 1678 01:05:18,860 --> 01:05:21,780 You left it, and I definitely think there's the argument, 1679 01:05:21,780 --> 01:05:23,340 which one is better, which part is better, 1680 01:05:23,340 --> 01:05:25,620 what things do you like better in it. 1681 01:05:25,620 --> 01:05:28,860 And yeah, I think very well, 1682 01:05:28,860 --> 01:05:31,380 many people come away saying the game is better, 1683 01:05:31,380 --> 01:05:35,700 but I'm sorry that you didn't, you left 1684 01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:37,980 with not even wanting to see the next season. 1685 01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:40,140 I was expecting to walk away being like, 1686 01:05:40,140 --> 01:05:42,460 oh, the game is better, but that's probably just because 1687 01:05:42,460 --> 01:05:44,660 I played it first and I really liked the games. 1688 01:05:44,660 --> 01:05:46,060 And I walked away being like, 1689 01:05:46,060 --> 01:05:48,580 the game is better because the TV show is bad. 1690 01:05:48,580 --> 01:05:49,420 Do you know what I mean? 1691 01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:51,060 Like, and that's so disappointing to me 1692 01:05:51,060 --> 01:05:52,500 because I was so excited and whatever. 1693 01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:53,500 And you know, hey, whatever, 1694 01:05:53,500 --> 01:05:55,340 like sometimes you get disappointed with stuff, 1695 01:05:55,340 --> 01:06:00,340 but that is just my opinion. 1696 01:06:00,660 --> 01:06:02,100 One last thing here in the news, 1697 01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:02,940 this is kind of interesting. 1698 01:06:02,940 --> 01:06:03,760 Did you see this? 1699 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,300 Apparently, according to some guy on Twitter 1700 01:06:08,300 --> 01:06:13,300 who posted some snippets from a LinkedIn profile, 1701 01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:18,300 apparently, Forspoken might have cost 1702 01:06:21,860 --> 01:06:23,820 over a hundred million dollars to make. 1703 01:06:23,820 --> 01:06:28,220 So basically the information comes from, like I said, 1704 01:06:28,220 --> 01:06:32,740 a LinkedIn profile for Alyssa Reimer, who, let's see, 1705 01:06:32,740 --> 01:06:35,380 was the lead writer of Forspoken. 1706 01:06:35,380 --> 01:06:37,420 And let's see where it is. 1707 01:06:37,420 --> 01:06:42,420 Oh yeah, basically in her, like, I don't use LinkedIn very 1708 01:06:48,260 --> 01:06:49,380 frequently, so I'm like having a hard time 1709 01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:50,220 like coming up with words. 1710 01:06:50,220 --> 01:06:52,180 So like, when you like say like, oh, I did this job 1711 01:06:52,180 --> 01:06:53,580 and you list like what you did for it, 1712 01:06:53,580 --> 01:06:54,700 you know what I'm saying? 1713 01:06:54,700 --> 01:06:57,860 In that, it says this, wrote the Bible script 1714 01:06:57,860 --> 01:07:00,860 and downloadable content for a fantasy triple A video game 1715 01:07:00,860 --> 01:07:03,980 parentheses, $100 million plus budget 1716 01:07:03,980 --> 01:07:07,660 with release date set for fall 2022. 1717 01:07:07,660 --> 01:07:12,660 And then in her like about section, 1718 01:07:13,020 --> 01:07:17,300 it also mentions that price. 1719 01:07:17,300 --> 01:07:20,180 It says she spearheaded the story behind Forspoken, 1720 01:07:20,180 --> 01:07:24,580 which cost over $100 million to make, which is a lot. 1721 01:07:24,580 --> 01:07:26,660 Like that is a significant amount of money, 1722 01:07:26,660 --> 01:07:29,260 especially for a game that I think flopped pretty hard 1723 01:07:29,260 --> 01:07:30,780 in terms of sales, right? 1724 01:07:30,780 --> 01:07:34,260 Yes, I'm not surprised though, 1725 01:07:34,260 --> 01:07:37,180 because when you have a big company that has money 1726 01:07:37,180 --> 01:07:42,180 and a game is just a game, how do you solve your problems? 1727 01:07:42,900 --> 01:07:44,660 Just throw money at it. 1728 01:07:44,660 --> 01:07:46,900 And you can fix problems that way, allegedly. 1729 01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:48,260 That doesn't mean the game's good, 1730 01:07:48,260 --> 01:07:50,060 just because you can throw money at something 1731 01:07:50,060 --> 01:07:51,460 doesn't mean it's always gonna be better. 1732 01:07:51,460 --> 01:07:54,580 I mean, baseball reference, the New York Yankees 1733 01:07:54,580 --> 01:07:56,300 don't win the World Series every year 1734 01:07:56,300 --> 01:07:57,980 and they spend a lot of money. 1735 01:07:57,980 --> 01:07:59,220 They have a lot of money, okay. 1736 01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:02,980 And just because you use money to solve your problems 1737 01:08:02,980 --> 01:08:04,420 doesn't mean you're allocating your resources 1738 01:08:04,420 --> 01:08:06,540 effectively, efficiently, all that kind of stuff. 1739 01:08:06,540 --> 01:08:09,660 I mean, bringing how many writers for this game? 1740 01:08:09,660 --> 01:08:12,100 Clearly, and the story was bad. 1741 01:08:13,460 --> 01:08:15,300 Yeah, it's interesting too. 1742 01:08:16,340 --> 01:08:19,360 I will say while this budget does seem like a lot 1743 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,900 for something that was so, 1744 01:08:22,900 --> 01:08:24,580 if I said that compromised, does that make sense? 1745 01:08:24,580 --> 01:08:26,300 I'm not trying to be negative about the game necessarily, 1746 01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:28,460 but that does sound like a lot of money. 1747 01:08:28,460 --> 01:08:31,380 I will say that, I don't know, 1748 01:08:31,380 --> 01:08:33,060 I think the money's on display. 1749 01:08:33,060 --> 01:08:35,540 I think the issue really was with the writing 1750 01:08:35,540 --> 01:08:39,060 and then with some of the world design. 1751 01:08:39,060 --> 01:08:41,180 But I wouldn't say that it felt cheap. 1752 01:08:41,180 --> 01:08:43,860 It wasn't a really buggy game or anything like that. 1753 01:08:45,180 --> 01:08:47,980 The combat was cool and flashy and I don't know. 1754 01:08:47,980 --> 01:08:50,500 I guess it's always tough to know where money goes, 1755 01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:52,020 especially with a video game, you know what I mean? 1756 01:08:52,020 --> 01:08:54,820 Because there's just so many different aspects to it. 1757 01:08:54,820 --> 01:08:59,820 But I would never say that it feels like a cheap game. 1758 01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:02,820 I would say it doesn't feel like a great, well-written game 1759 01:09:02,820 --> 01:09:05,620 or super well-designed game at times, right? 1760 01:09:05,620 --> 01:09:08,180 But does that make sense? 1761 01:09:08,180 --> 01:09:10,540 Yeah, there's a scene in The Shawshank Redemption 1762 01:09:10,540 --> 01:09:12,260 when Andy's in the hospital 1763 01:09:12,260 --> 01:09:14,020 and they're trying to make him feel good for it 1764 01:09:14,020 --> 01:09:17,680 by searching for these certain rocks. 1765 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,520 He wants to make a chess set out of these rocks. 1766 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,380 So they're all out in the field gathering rocks 1767 01:09:23,380 --> 01:09:25,100 and one of the guys finds a rock. 1768 01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:26,540 He's like, look, I found one. 1769 01:09:26,540 --> 01:09:30,700 And they're like, that's actually just petrified horse poop. 1770 01:09:31,940 --> 01:09:35,420 So a game can look good. 1771 01:09:35,420 --> 01:09:36,260 Sure, that's very fair. 1772 01:09:36,260 --> 01:09:37,180 Can feel good. 1773 01:09:37,180 --> 01:09:39,100 But then you just push it and it's like, 1774 01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:41,060 ooh, actually, that's just horse poop. 1775 01:09:41,060 --> 01:09:44,340 So, Forspoken, I just made a Shawshank Redemption 1776 01:09:44,340 --> 01:09:46,240 horse poop connection to you. 1777 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:47,160 Don't know if that's the best thing, 1778 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:48,520 but I do love Shawshank Redemption, 1779 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,280 so maybe it is a good thing for you. 1780 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,020 I'll say this about Forspoken. 1781 01:09:52,020 --> 01:09:53,340 It's not a good game, 1782 01:09:54,540 --> 01:09:57,740 but it got torn apart on the internet 1783 01:09:57,740 --> 01:10:01,900 for things that I thought were inconsequential. 1784 01:10:01,900 --> 01:10:03,420 Yeah, people were like, oh, it's so cringey. 1785 01:10:03,420 --> 01:10:05,220 I'm like, yeah, I don't really care about that. 1786 01:10:05,220 --> 01:10:06,540 You're more than just not written well. 1787 01:10:06,540 --> 01:10:09,820 Everyone's sitting here loving this Resident Evil 4 remake. 1788 01:10:09,820 --> 01:10:14,820 Yeah, but hey, intent and tone, 1789 01:10:14,860 --> 01:10:16,620 those are important in our thing. 1790 01:10:18,420 --> 01:10:19,260 Yeah, I don't know. 1791 01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:24,100 This, while yes, it is a lot of money, 1792 01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:29,100 I think especially it is so tough because of it is, 1793 01:10:30,020 --> 01:10:32,340 because of how little it's sold. 1794 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:38,080 I don't think that we got specific numbers or maybe, 1795 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,700 but it was defined as lackluster sales, 1796 01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:44,400 which I would also probably understand. 1797 01:10:45,980 --> 01:10:48,100 I think it got a lot of bad press online, 1798 01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:49,260 you know what I mean? 1799 01:10:49,260 --> 01:10:50,740 Just based on those clips that, again, 1800 01:10:50,740 --> 01:10:53,740 we're taken out of context, although with context, 1801 01:10:53,740 --> 01:10:55,460 it still doesn't necessarily make people, 1802 01:10:55,460 --> 01:10:57,820 isn't gonna make people super interested in a, 1803 01:10:59,140 --> 01:11:01,620 if they're not interested in the writing in those clips, 1804 01:11:01,620 --> 01:11:03,420 that is in there, you know what I mean? 1805 01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:04,860 Yeah. 1806 01:11:04,860 --> 01:11:07,340 And I also think, and this is just a hurdle 1807 01:11:07,340 --> 01:11:12,340 that we as a world need to get over. 1808 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,340 I think anytime that you put a black woman 1809 01:11:17,340 --> 01:11:18,580 in the lead of your game, 1810 01:11:18,580 --> 01:11:23,260 I think you're gonna run into some pushback from people, 1811 01:11:23,260 --> 01:11:24,780 not deserved pushback, right? 1812 01:11:24,780 --> 01:11:26,460 It's like shitty pushback, 1813 01:11:26,460 --> 01:11:31,460 but I think that that is still going to impact sales. 1814 01:11:32,660 --> 01:11:34,140 And it's shitty and it sucks. 1815 01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:36,440 And I'm not saying that they need to stop doing that. 1816 01:11:36,440 --> 01:11:38,860 In fact, I would say that what you need to do 1817 01:11:38,860 --> 01:11:41,580 is continue doing that so that people 1818 01:11:41,580 --> 01:11:44,560 can fucking get over it, you know, or die. 1819 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,880 But I think that also is, 1820 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:53,000 I think it is a cocktail of tricky stuff with Forespoken 1821 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,240 in terms of its sales, if that makes sense. 1822 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,040 Yep, there's sometimes very little difference 1823 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:03,040 between a five out of 10 and a seven out of 10. 1824 01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:04,800 You know what I mean? 1825 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,040 Like, it's just, and I think more people lean 1826 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,280 towards the five out of 10 angle on this one 1827 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,360 and just found reasons to hate it when, 1828 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,880 most games you can find reasons to hate 1829 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,600 if you really look into them. 1830 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,480 Right, it's a similar thing. 1831 01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:18,500 To my understanding, I didn't play it, 1832 01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:20,800 but this seems like it was on the same level 1833 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,160 as like Atomic Heart in terms of being like, 1834 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,640 okay, in every area, you know what I mean? 1835 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:29,880 But people seem to think Atomic Heart 1836 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,040 is better okay than Forespoken. 1837 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:32,880 By the way. Exactly. 1838 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,060 But that game was not turned apart. 1839 01:12:35,060 --> 01:12:35,900 Did you play it? 1840 01:12:35,900 --> 01:12:36,720 No, I downloaded it. 1841 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,960 It's my next thing, my next step. 1842 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,040 But yeah, you know what I'm saying? 1843 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,680 People fucking tore this game apart 1844 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,480 where you've got some Atomic Heart 1845 01:12:45,480 --> 01:12:48,320 that just like seemed to be about as bad, 1846 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,040 but just for whatever reason, and by whatever reason, 1847 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,880 I mean all the reasons we talked about. 1848 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,260 For all these reasons and more. 1849 01:12:55,260 --> 01:12:57,840 Yeah, it just didn't catch the ire 1850 01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,380 of the internet very much. 1851 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,760 That's all I've got for the news. 1852 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,720 Justin, I've been playing Hi-Fi Rush. 1853 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:07,560 Oh. And I know we've talked 1854 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:11,120 about it a lot on our show here. 1855 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,840 But damn, it is so good. 1856 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,160 It is really, really good. 1857 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:15,240 I've been savoring it. 1858 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,800 I just got to the eighth mission. 1859 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:20,440 And it's just one of those games 1860 01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:23,200 that's just so full of creativity and ideas. 1861 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:28,200 I think it's so snappy in its writing and stuff. 1862 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,880 And I think it is also kind of an oddity 1863 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,280 in the gaming space in that it is a video game 1864 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,720 that I think is very funny. 1865 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,680 I think the comedy really lands. 1866 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,240 The characters are great, the writing is great. 1867 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,320 And it's not just cheap laughs. 1868 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,520 I think they really build to some of these laughs and stuff. 1869 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:47,960 Did you get to the canon part? 1870 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:50,000 Canon part? You would know. 1871 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,400 I don't think so. Okay, no. 1872 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,200 But it's like the whole game, 1873 01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:57,320 they set up this kind of trope of planning the mission. 1874 01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,340 And then for this one mission, 1875 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,840 they kind of chies, I got this. 1876 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,640 And they're like, oh, fuck. 1877 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,360 And the way they had set the whole thing up 1878 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:07,360 is just really funny. 1879 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,240 But it's like one of the, 1880 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,400 there's just so many good things about it that, 1881 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,120 you're right, it is an oddity from it being humor, 1882 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:19,360 from it being a new-ish genre that I haven't played before. 1883 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:22,960 There's just so many things about it 1884 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,560 that I still, I cannot get that game out of my head. 1885 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,360 The beat, it's in my head. 1886 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,880 But I just can't get it out of my head. 1887 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,080 And I like it a lot. 1888 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,080 I wish the story landed better. 1889 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,080 It stuck its landing a little bit better. 1890 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:36,920 Oh, really? 1891 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,960 But this might be, 1892 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,400 I'm thinking more of an anime trope here. 1893 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,320 So hopefully this isn't a spoiler. 1894 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,480 Do you know how they get through it at the end? 1895 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,800 No, but based on what you just said, I can maybe guess. 1896 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:53,640 What is your guess? 1897 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,160 What is your guess? 1898 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:59,480 Okay, I guess like spoilers for my guesses of Hi-Fi Rush 1899 01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:00,600 and if I'm right or not. 1900 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,440 It sounds like a power of friendship kind of thing. 1901 01:15:02,440 --> 01:15:03,920 Yeah, it's a power of friendship. 1902 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,480 It leads everyone together. 1903 01:15:05,480 --> 01:15:07,640 It makes everything good, power of friendship. 1904 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:08,480 Power of friendship. 1905 01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:09,320 I like that. 1906 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:10,160 I like that. 1907 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,960 I liked it in Scarlet Nexus. 1908 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,000 Remember when that game, at the very end is like, 1909 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,680 we're just gonna win by being friends. 1910 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,600 It's like, yeah. 1911 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,120 Also, hey, that was a good game. 1912 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:20,960 I enjoyed Scarlet Nexus. 1913 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,200 The soundtrack is still banging in my head. 1914 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:23,040 It was great. 1915 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:23,880 It was great. 1916 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,280 I liked the style of it, like the actual art direction. 1917 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:29,840 And same thing with this too. 1918 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,400 It's interesting in playing this, 1919 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:34,200 not to be that guy who's like, 1920 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,280 this kind of reminds me of Persona 5, 1921 01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,360 but like kind of reminds me of Persona 5 1922 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:42,160 in the sense that like it is so, 1923 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:47,240 it leans so heavily into its artistic style, you know? 1924 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:52,240 And just being like stylish in every aspect. 1925 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,160 And yeah, you know, you can make the comparisons of like, 1926 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,120 oh, well, does that kind of visual novel thing too, 1927 01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:57,480 where the characters, you know, 1928 01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:00,800 like show up on screen with text boxes and whatever. 1929 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:05,040 But I think like on a less superficial level, 1930 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,360 I think that there is a lot of shared DNA of just like, 1931 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,840 this is a game that knows what it's going for 1932 01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,360 in terms of its style, both artistically 1933 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,880 and sonically and all that sort of stuff. 1934 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,520 And I think it's just, 1935 01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:21,760 like I think I'm in love with this game, 1936 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:22,600 is what I'm trying to say. 1937 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:23,960 And I'm trying to say for it, 1938 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,360 although I might want to have it beaten for Resident Evil 4. 1939 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,920 But I think I'm in love with Hi-Fi Rush. 1940 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,680 I think it might be my favorite of the year so far. 1941 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:40,280 I think my favorite of the year was playing Resident Evil 1942 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,840 for the original one last week. 1943 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,600 Yeah, did you finish it this week? 1944 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,120 I just couldn't stop playing it. 1945 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,680 I know, you love it so much. 1946 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,160 Everything about it. 1947 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:50,720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1948 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,440 Yeah, I just, I've been really enamored with it. 1949 01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:57,760 And something I think maybe is worth talking about 1950 01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,400 in like a bonus episode or something like that 1951 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,800 for our lovely Patreon producers. 1952 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,360 But it's interesting. 1953 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,960 We sort of mentioned this at the top of the show 1954 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,560 when we were talking about Resident Evil 4 remake 1955 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,000 in like its score. 1956 01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:13,760 Metroid Prime Remastered scored extraordinarily well. 1957 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,640 Resident Evil 4 remake scored extremely well. 1958 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,960 Dead Space remake scored extremely well. 1959 01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:24,320 So far, those are like the highest scoring games 1960 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:25,160 of the year. 1961 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,040 But they're all remakes and remasters. 1962 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,600 And I'm not trying to be that guy who's like, 1963 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,880 what, can they get new ideas? 1964 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,600 But I think it is worth pointing out to be like, 1965 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,560 oh, that is kind of interesting, don't you think? 1966 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,920 And for me, Hi-Fi Rush is the first thing of the year 1967 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,600 that has been really truly standout 1968 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,400 that isn't a remake or remaster. 1969 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,200 And I think maybe the only thing so far for me 1970 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,240 that's been like truly exceptional and exciting. 1971 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,640 That isn't Dead Space remake. 1972 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:53,920 That isn't from something from that. 1973 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,880 We just unlocked a hippogriff in Hogwarts Legacy. 1974 01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,440 Yeah, is that exciting? 1975 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,280 It was actually, to be honest, a pretty cool story moment. 1976 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,760 But then the game is just the game. 1977 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,760 Does it get any different? 1978 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:11,880 Because I know we talked about it 1979 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,520 when you first started playing it, 1980 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,720 but in terms of being in interesting open world, 1981 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,360 does that stuff that's outside of the actual Hogwarts castle 1982 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,200 get any more interesting 1983 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,880 or does it just sort of stay kind of generic? 1984 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:29,200 Okay, so one of the coolest thing is the world in the game. 1985 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,920 But as I'm playing the game, the easiest comparison 1986 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,720 I saw people make this comparison is to The Witcher. 1987 01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:35,640 And I hate to say this. 1988 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,320 Yeah, you hate The Witcher though. 1989 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,560 Do I? 1990 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:39,400 You said you did. 1991 01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:40,840 I mean, I beat it. 1992 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,360 You beat The Witcher 3? 1993 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,080 Yeah, in all the DLCs. 1994 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:45,920 What? 1995 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:46,920 We never talked about this? 1996 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:48,040 Who are you? 1997 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:52,320 I thought you hated it. 1998 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,160 Oh boy, it's complicated, man. 1999 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,080 Okay, sure. 2000 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,240 But maybe I caught you on a day 2001 01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,720 when you were feeling a little like, meh about it. 2002 01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:00,560 But that's all right, go on. 2003 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,360 But anyway, I keep playing and say, 2004 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,080 I'd rather play The Witcher again. 2005 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,080 Oh really, okay. 2006 01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,920 So wow, I guess that's sort of an... 2007 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,080 But it's a loaded question 2008 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,000 because I didn't hate The Witcher. 2009 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,040 I liked a lot about it. 2010 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:18,000 But yeah, I probably put like 85, 90 hours into that game. 2011 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,920 I had no idea. 2012 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,000 Who is it that hates The Witcher that I know? 2013 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:22,840 Probably me. 2014 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,640 That I talk to frequently on a podcast. 2015 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:25,880 Probably me, I mean. 2016 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:26,720 Maybe it's just you. 2017 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:27,880 It's probably just me. 2018 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,040 Did you ever hate play something 2019 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:32,480 until you started playing it enough 2020 01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:33,320 to actually kind of like it? 2021 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,240 Oh yeah, yeah, totally. 2022 01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:36,720 You got that turnaround moment that you're like, 2023 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,000 oh actually, this isn't that bad. 2024 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,240 I feel like I don't get to the turnaround very often. 2025 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,080 I mean, I'm thinking of like, 2026 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,120 I used to play a lot of, like when I was in high school, 2027 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,760 I would go to GameStop or like, 2028 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:46,960 Toys R Us when that existed. 2029 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,040 And they would have like the $5 like bargain games. 2030 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,200 And it was just shit in there. 2031 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,520 And like, I loved, I like, I think this is maybe, 2032 01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,640 maybe comes through in our show. 2033 01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:01,600 In that like, we've been thinking and talking 2034 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,200 about video games for a very long time. 2035 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,040 You know what I mean? 2036 01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,480 Like, and like kind of like picking apart 2037 01:20:05,480 --> 01:20:07,040 like what makes them good and whatever. 2038 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,800 I really got a lot out of playing bad games 2039 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,960 because I would really find it interesting 2040 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:13,760 about like what makes them so bad. 2041 01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,000 You know, so like for example, 2042 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,080 I played a lot of Duke Nukem Forever. 2043 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:19,880 Just to be like, what, like how did this happen? 2044 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,200 You know, like what makes this so unfun? 2045 01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:23,880 Like I could talk all day about that. 2046 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,680 Or like Aliens, Colonial Marines, 2047 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:27,560 if you remember that one. 2048 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,160 Like it's just like a piece of trash. 2049 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,880 But like, why? 2050 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:31,760 How did this happen? 2051 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:32,840 What would have made this better? 2052 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,040 You know, that sort of stuff. 2053 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,520 Yeah. 2054 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:36,960 I thought for a second, 2055 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,160 like you were gonna end the episode again, 2056 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:40,640 just shitting on Horizon. 2057 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,200 Horizon Forbidden West, yeah. 2058 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:44,280 I was like waiting for it. 2059 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,080 Like your face the whole time was like. 2060 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:46,920 Oh. 2061 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,320 Yeah, just run for Forbidden West. 2062 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,200 I mean, it's like, you know, 2063 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,920 I had this realization recently 2064 01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,120 and similar to other things you talked about in this episode, 2065 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,440 like this is not a formated full opinion yet. 2066 01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:01,480 Like I've not really like hashed this one out entirely yet. 2067 01:21:01,480 --> 01:21:06,000 But like, I think I tend to like games 2068 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,640 in the same way that I like restaurants. 2069 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:13,280 Where I like a restaurant that knows what you came for. 2070 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,960 You know, does just a few things. 2071 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,640 Like its menu is very limited, 2072 01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,280 but it's like, we just do this one burger 2073 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,400 and this burger is perfect 2074 01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,520 and we're gonna make it for you this way. 2075 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,720 That's your high-five rush, right? 2076 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,040 But then I enjoy going to restaurants, 2077 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,600 like diners where like the menu is like eight pages long 2078 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,360 and it's just like super small text. 2079 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,720 It's basically they hand you the Bible, right? 2080 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:36,960 And they're like, pick something out of here. 2081 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,560 And you look and they're like, 2082 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,240 yo, you guys do tuna? 2083 01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:46,240 Like I don't think anyone should order your tuna, you know? 2084 01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,400 And that's like a horizon sort of thing. 2085 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:50,800 And I just don't like going, 2086 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,200 it's like horizon for me is like Chili's. 2087 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,680 Like I've been, my friends really like Chili's. 2088 01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:58,400 But every time I go away from Chili's, 2089 01:21:58,400 --> 01:21:59,600 I order something new and I go, 2090 01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,600 I don't like that at all. 2091 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,600 I love their skillet queso, like that is. 2092 01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:05,520 Okay, that sounds pretty good. 2093 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,200 I've heard their salsa is also pretty good. 2094 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,800 Yeah, and their chips are salt held together 2095 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,160 by some flour. 2096 01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,440 Yeah, so there you go, right? 2097 01:22:12,440 --> 01:22:13,280 Powerful. 2098 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,440 And don't get me wrong, I like a restaurant 2099 01:22:17,440 --> 01:22:20,880 that has all sorts of random ass shit on their menu, right? 2100 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,680 You know, I like goes to Tsushima, right? 2101 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,960 Same sort of concept maybe, but does that make sense? 2102 01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:28,800 Yeah, no, no, yeah. 2103 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,880 That's not a formulated complete idea yet. 2104 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,120 It's just, it was knocking around in my head. 2105 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:33,960 Video game, me playing video games 2106 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,520 is like eating at a restaurant. 2107 01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:37,680 I rarely tip. 2108 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:39,720 Do you rarely tip? 2109 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:40,560 No. 2110 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:41,560 I was like, what? 2111 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:46,560 Like podcast ended, Justin is canceled, holy shit. 2112 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,920 Although it's funny I say podcast ended 2113 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,880 because here we are at the end of the podcast. 2114 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,000 Thanks so much for indulging us and chilling with us 2115 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,560 for the past hour and a half or so. 2116 01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,760 If you want more Hitbox, 2117 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,320 head on over to patreon.com slash hitboxpod, 2118 01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,400 become a $3 deluxe podcast producer like Jaynull, 2119 01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,400 like Dave Parker, the two of them are real ones. 2120 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,360 They've been real ones since the offset. 2121 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,840 And if you do, if you join their ranks, 2122 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,120 you'll get additional 30 minute bonus episodes 2123 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:24,560 every single week. 2124 01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,520 It's like 15 additional extra hours of content. 2125 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,120 Should you feel so inclined, 2126 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,320 you could also just become a $1 podcast producer, 2127 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:33,800 also good. 2128 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,840 Or if you can't do that, follow us on Twitter 2129 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,920 at hitboxpod, jump into our Discord. 2130 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,560 And link to that is in the description of this episode. 2131 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,440 Justin, am I forgetting anything? 2132 01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:47,800 You're forgetting that you once again did an awesome job 2133 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,280 of closing out the show. 2134 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:50,120 Oh my goodness. 2135 01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,360 And that you, Peter. 2136 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:52,200 Me? 2137 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,000 Hans Spitek, are an amazing person. 2138 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,800 Right back at you, Justin. 2139 01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:58,640 Are you okay? 2140 01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,080 Yeah, you came right back at me a little quicker 2141 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,360 than I was expecting, so. 2142 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:02,360 Yeah, okay, yeah, sorry, 2143 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:03,640 I should have said that a little softer. 2144 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:04,680 Thank you. 2145 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:05,720 Right back at you, Justin. 2146 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:06,880 No, thank you. 2147 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:09,160 What do I usually say? 2148 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:10,000 I always remember. 2149 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:10,840 All games are all bye. 2150 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:11,680 Bye. 2151 01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:39,160 All right, that's, I'll stop recording. 2152 01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:44,160 Bye.