1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Mike. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,000 And I'm Nate. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,240 What are we smoking today, Nate? 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,280 Well, we have a first on our podcast. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,560 We have some sponsor sticks. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,200 It's like a sponsorship, but instead of money, you get cigars. 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:28,120 So our friends, Kayla and Gary went down to New Orleans or New Orleans. 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,520 I think I was saying that right with the appropriate regional dialect and brought us back some 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,880 Romeo and Julietta 1875s. 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,880 Yes, I'm excited. 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,680 We have Mike made us some fancy drinks. 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,640 Yes, we are together at my studio today. 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,520 So together at long last. 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,520 Yes. 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,020 And we have two guests, one cat and one dog. 16 00:00:52,020 --> 00:00:54,840 So we'll see how that goes. 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,280 Nothing like putting them together. 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,280 What are we drinking? 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:05,520 We are drinking a drink known as a stone fence, which I'm sure everybody knows what it is. 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,280 Oh, and we did mention it on one of our previous episodes, what it was. 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,200 Those who don't know, it's a hard cider, bitters and whiskey. 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,200 And it is tasty. 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,200 It is. 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,200 Oh, very good. 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,200 I like this cigar. 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,220 Yeah, this one's good so far. 27 00:01:20,220 --> 00:01:22,480 We say as we're two and a half puffs in. 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:27,240 Well, sometimes when you start they're sour, they get better or whatever. 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:33,400 They're like the cult and they're bad from puff one to puff seven when you put it down. 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,760 This is horrible. 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,040 I made it halfway through, I think. 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,160 No, I think we both kind of made it halfway through. 33 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,920 So it's one of those. 34 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,920 I think that next time we have Al on, I'm going to have him smoke it. 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:44,920 We won't. 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,400 We'll just be like, this is the only episode we're not smoking. 37 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,720 We just want you to. 38 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,400 Well, it's like we should do a segment where it's Al smokes because he can't taste, he 39 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,240 can't tell the difference between a Moon Trance and a Romeo and Juliet. 40 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:01,600 I had him try a Series R and then I think I had him try MX2. 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,280 And it's like he couldn't tell the difference between any of those three. 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,240 They're pretty different cigars. 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,240 Slightly, slightly. 44 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,800 We haven't done the MX2 on the show yet, but we are going to. 45 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,800 We will, yeah. 46 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,160 We haven't, but we will, we shall. 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,400 It's in the works. 48 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,960 We've got all of our sticks planned out for the next five seasons. 49 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,240 I feel I got a big old bag bursting at the seams from Mike. 50 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:30,520 So yep, I have a, well that humidor right there is only sticks for the show and it's 51 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,280 cannot get any more in. 52 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,160 So I've got that same humidor. 53 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,160 Yep. 54 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,720 And I think I'll be using the other humidor for the show sticks. 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,840 I've got two about that size and then one larger. 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Yep. 57 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,880 And then I can move all the stuff out of the large one and keep that a show one. 58 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,880 Yep. 59 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,400 We both have the same setup kind of, cause I have one large one and then two smaller 60 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,400 ones. 61 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,400 Yeah. 62 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,720 And now I'm starting to get enough to where, or low enough to where I can buy cigars again. 63 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,880 Cause there for like a year it was like. 64 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,240 The buy ban is now lifted. 65 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,240 Yeah. 66 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,240 The buy ban is lifted. 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,240 Yep. 68 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,240 Yep. 69 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,720 Cause yeah, I have way too many cigars. 70 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,520 At least I did. 71 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,520 Yep. 72 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,760 Nothing like deciding to do a cigar podcast and smoke through them. 73 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Well, that was part of the problem too, is that I had your sticks and my sticks there 74 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,560 for a while. 75 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,560 It's like, oh geez. 76 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,560 Yep. 77 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,480 And yeah, and I brought some, a few sticks up for Mike. 78 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,400 So we've got some good ones that we're both looking forward to. 79 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,400 Yes. 80 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,400 I was pretty stoked. 81 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,120 Nate made a presentation out of the handing over. 82 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,120 Yes. 83 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,760 We did get some limited edition ones. 84 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,520 Let's say that one time a year thing. 85 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,620 And I ran down and fought the mobs and acquired these through mostly legal means. 86 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:48,460 If they're as good as they look, I will have to call them and see if I can order a box 87 00:03:48,460 --> 00:03:49,460 for next year. 88 00:03:49,460 --> 00:03:50,460 Have them set one aside. 89 00:03:50,460 --> 00:03:51,460 Yeah. 90 00:03:51,460 --> 00:03:53,480 Well, they're, they're, they come in two varieties. 91 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,440 So we'll have to see which variety we like best. 92 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,320 And then that's the box that we'll have to. 93 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,320 Yep. 94 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,080 That'll be the first cigar I've ever had with a natural wrapper, but even though it's 95 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,080 just that band, I've never had a natural. 96 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,080 Yeah. 97 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,080 A green cigar. 98 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,080 Yep. 99 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,080 Not that I'm opposed to it. 100 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,080 I just, you don't see them often. 101 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,080 Yeah, I know. 102 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,040 I guess I wasn't sure how they got that green, but it's just not. 103 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,640 It's the aging, the way they age them. 104 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,740 So yeah, I did know, and we might talk about this a little bit later, but we have a guest 105 00:04:23,740 --> 00:04:28,280 slated for the future and I don't know how in depth I should go. 106 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:33,600 I don't want to talk for them, but they'll be on the show and we're doing kind of a little 107 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,800 bit of a, what is it called? 108 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,560 A gathering, like trying to find a good time to have them on the show. 109 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,840 They've already picked the cigar. 110 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:43,720 We have all the cigars we need to be able to smoke. 111 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,960 They're in a different state, same time zone, but different states. 112 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,560 So they're going to be remote. 113 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:57,960 And the thing is they're a Hasidic Jew and so they can't record on, what is it? 114 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Saturdays. 115 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,160 Saturdays from sun up to sun down. 116 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,760 And we normally record on Sundays, but Passover, is it Passover? 117 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,880 Is happening or Lent or something. 118 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,640 And so they can't have anything that's leaven, meaning bread and yeast. 119 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:19,240 And it goes so far as to like glue that holds cigar wrappers together and things. 120 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,600 And so they actually do, I was talking to him and they actually do make kosher cigars 121 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,960 that you can smoke during this time period that don't have the modern additives of whatever 122 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:29,960 the process is. 123 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,720 I don't know enough about it and maybe he'll talk about it, but- 124 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,600 That would be, we're talking about that. 125 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,600 We have to talk about that. 126 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,240 I've never heard of such a thing and that sounds awesome dude. 127 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,720 So just a little teaser for an episode coming up that we haven't yet recorded. 128 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,720 Now I want to do it now. 129 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,200 I know, but you can't because it's Saturday. 130 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,640 Saturday when we're recording today. 131 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,120 Yeah, we talked about that before. 132 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:56,480 I was trying to get him down with the sickness for tomorrow, which is Sunday, which is our 133 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,280 normal recording night. 134 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:02,120 And Mike, of all things, has to go bowling tomorrow. 135 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,360 So we'll just have to wait until after the religious holiday is over and then we'll get 136 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,920 him on first thing and we'll have some fun talking, but he really enjoys the cigars. 137 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:12,920 So good. 138 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:13,920 Good, good. 139 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:14,920 Yeah. 140 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,720 Well, that stick that we picked out, that's a nice stick. 141 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:17,720 Yeah, the stick he picked out. 142 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:18,720 Yeah, that's a nice one. 143 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,200 I had to go to a couple of different cigar shops to find it because it's such a popular 144 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,200 stick. 145 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,560 The place I normally go was sold out of them and they said, we might get some more in, 146 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,560 but- 147 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,760 We might or we might not. 148 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,760 And that means they'll get more in, but the people that like those sticks will go get 149 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 them before I ever know that they have them in. 150 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,400 Well, at that particular store, I'm sure has regular customers that are there more than 151 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,400 one day a week. 152 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,400 Oh yeah. 153 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,880 One is a cigar lounge. 154 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:50,400 So people will go there and buy things and then you can only smoke what you buy there, 155 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,040 but I'm sure they go and sit there because they've got the ventilation. 156 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,960 You can sit in there and smoke and smoke and smoke. 157 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,960 We had a lounge. 158 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,240 Well, we had a cigar shop that was a lounge in Minot when I was living there and then 159 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,960 they changed the smoking law when I was living there and the city was going to close down 160 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:07,960 the lounge. 161 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,640 So it was called Tom's Garage and it's closed now. 162 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,040 That's where I got the big humidor and I got a shit ton of cigars and that's where I got 163 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,040 that Gurka. 164 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,040 Where is it? 165 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,040 That big Gurka? 166 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 167 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,360 They gave me that for free because I bought so much stuff. 168 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:23,360 But anyway- 169 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,360 He's talking about a Gurka ashtray. 170 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,360 Yeah, a Gurka ashtray. 171 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,680 Remember, isn't it a presidential one? 172 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:28,680 Yes. 173 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:29,680 Okay. 174 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,920 So for those of you who are into the collectible ashtrays. 175 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,960 Yes, it is a presidential collectible ashtray from, I think, Trumpster. 176 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Okay. 177 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,360 It's a nice, it's a good looking thing. 178 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,360 Yeah. 179 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,880 But while they did... We have a separate story. 180 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,560 So we'll stick on Tom's Garage, but yeah. 181 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:51,720 So they turned it into the lounge part into a private club that you had to spend money 182 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,280 and it wasn't that expensive. 183 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,280 Yeah. 184 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,560 And he had refrigerators and TVs and it was like a lounge. 185 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,560 Yeah. 186 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,680 So we would go there and we'd bring our own beers. 187 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,680 Okay. 188 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,400 He couldn't sell, but you could have. 189 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,280 And then yeah, you'd go there and smoke cigars and it was a lot of fun. 190 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,520 Me and my buddies would go there and chill. 191 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Okay, yeah. 192 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,520 Yep. 193 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,480 One of my friends at the time had the passkey to the outside of the door. 194 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Oh, nice. 195 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,480 We could go there anytime. 196 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,480 Yeah. 197 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:23,720 Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the thing is smoking in Minnesota. 198 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,720 If you don't want to stand out in the bitter cold for half of the year, you need to have 199 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,000 some kind of interior space that you can smoke in. 200 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,600 And Mike's got the nice studio here on his patio porch. 201 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:36,600 It's a four season porch. 202 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,600 Four season porch. 203 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Yeah. 204 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,800 And I finally got one built in the garage and there's a few tweaks I'm still going to 205 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,400 do, but it's been working great. 206 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,200 It's tough to smoke year round here. 207 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,200 It is. 208 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,200 Yeah. 209 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,000 If you're not going to dedicate space or resources to do so. 210 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Yeah. 211 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,240 And like I say, I think I'm going to put a fan there because I sit there usually for 212 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,240 the show. 213 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,240 Yeah. 214 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,520 And that way I only get as much smoke into the house when I'm done because I don't let 215 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:59,520 it air out. 216 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,520 Yeah. 217 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:08,040 And I think we're going to maybe do some switches on our mics, our microphones, but I kind of 218 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,440 want to save our technical setup because I want to go through that. 219 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,720 Just right. 220 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,600 But I feel like that would be a good topic for our shrew showdown because that'll be, 221 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:19,600 we're going to smoke. 222 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,440 I think we decided three shrews or three half shrews, so. 223 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,440 Yeah. 224 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:25,440 And do the comparisons. 225 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,360 I could get a different, a fourth one. 226 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,000 And Nate and I talked about it and you guys might as well hear it. 227 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,360 There's one company in the States that makes almost all the shrews and they're just different 228 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,360 sizes. 229 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,320 So I'm pretty sure they're all the same leaf. 230 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:39,600 I could try. 231 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,960 Not the one that I have because I bought that Italian pack. 232 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,240 Yours is an Italian one. 233 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,120 And then the Bandito is different. 234 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,800 That's totally different than the Kentucky, but the Kentucky shrew is made by a company 235 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,600 that makes almost all of them. 236 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:51,600 And I could get a backwoods. 237 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,400 I suppose we could get a backwoods, try that. 238 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Yeah. 239 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,840 I mean, we're just trying to think like, and this could be something where maybe we stick 240 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:04,080 to three because that's, and then we'll do another three batch and maybe then we'll do 241 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,080 another three batch. 242 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,120 And when we have the winners of each of those three, we can do like the finals or something 243 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,580 or the showdown of our favorite. 244 00:10:11,580 --> 00:10:15,240 But I feel like that episode will be short enough to where we can talk about kind of 245 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,280 our technical setup and the different stuff that we use. 246 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,080 But to your thing with the fan right there, I would almost put the fan over on one of 247 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,240 these side windows and have it pull from there. 248 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:30,720 See, I was thinking I'm gonna have to face this way because I was thinking of having 249 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,800 the lower fan out and then I can blow the smoke down and have that push it out and then 250 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,120 have the other fan come up. 251 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,080 I was thinking just for a noise, strictly for noise. 252 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,120 But if we get the different mics, it won't make a difference. 253 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,160 That have the two to four pickup range, two to four inches pickup range. 254 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,160 Yep. 255 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,640 Then it won't matter as much. 256 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,680 I mean, you'll still hear a little bit. 257 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:54,760 And by and large, Mike's audio on this, now we're getting into it, but Mike's audio doesn't 258 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,480 have a whole lot of background noise because he doesn't have any fans running, but he's 259 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,160 got enough windows he can open to clear the smoke out. 260 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,480 Whereas my background noise is bathroom fan. 261 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,880 And it's a quiet fan for bathroom fans, but it still picks up on the mic that I'm using. 262 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,760 And that's why I'm looking at a different pickup pattern on the mic. 263 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,760 Yeah. 264 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,400 And they can still hear vehicle traffic sometimes. 265 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,400 Yeah. 266 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,560 I usually am able to cut that stuff out. 267 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:22,160 Yeah, and Mike's audio, like the car going by now, we can hear that sometimes on the 268 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,840 mic and stuff. 269 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,960 So if anyone's interested in the technical side and you want to start your own podcast 270 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,320 or your own cigar podcast and compete with us or- 271 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:33,320 Yeah, yeah. 272 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,320 Be competitive with us. 273 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,320 Collaborate with us, hopefully. 274 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:41,080 We're going to go through all the tech stuff and all the different stuff that we've tried 275 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,280 and things that we've been learning because it could be as easy as just hitting record 276 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,320 on your iPhone. 277 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,600 But Mike and I are a little bit more perfectionists than that, or I want a little more control 278 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,640 over what's happening. 279 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,000 I'm not, Nate is. 280 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Let's be clear. 281 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,000 That's true. 282 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 That's true. 283 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:02,160 Nate uses this as an exercise in flexing his muscles. 284 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:07,560 Well, it's making me better doing the digital stuff that I have done and would like to do 285 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:12,360 in the future because I've got the background in filmmaking and I'm not actively working 286 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:17,960 in any film projects, but the audio side has always been one of my weaker points of filmmaking 287 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,360 and audio is huge with filmmaking. 288 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,920 People will watch a movie shot like shit, look at Cloverfield. 289 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,400 It's shot expertly, but it's all pretend to be been on a camcorder, right? 290 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:36,880 So the quality is supposed to emulate camcorder quality, but the audio does not replicate 291 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,040 what audio you would get from a camcorder. 292 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,380 That's professional audio. 293 00:12:41,380 --> 00:12:45,640 People will turn off on professional sounding audio no matter how great the movie looks. 294 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:51,480 They'll shut that movie off quicker than if it's a shit shot movie with great audio. 295 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:52,920 So you really need clean audio. 296 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:59,000 I get that because I listen to a lot of audio books and LibriVox has free recordings. 297 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:04,160 There is a huge difference in some people's setups when they do the reading and it's bad. 298 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,680 When it's bad, it's like you can't even continue. 299 00:13:06,680 --> 00:13:07,680 No. 300 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:13,120 I did one audio book and it was like, I don't know, four hours of silence. 301 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:22,840 And then at the end it went, oh, out loud. 302 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,320 Just the occasional page turn noise. 303 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,280 And here is the Odyssey or something. 304 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:34,280 Oh, out loud. 305 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,280 Instructions unclear. 306 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,280 How do I proceed? 307 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,280 That's awesome. 308 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,280 Oh my God. 309 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Awful. 310 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,280 That's awful. 311 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:48,760 So if you haven't guessed yet, dear listener, this is what we colloquially look to call 312 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:55,240 ... This is what us in the industry call a vamp episode. 313 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,640 We don't have necessarily a specific topic. 314 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:05,200 I know that since we last recorded, some indictments came down and I don't know if Mike wanted 315 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,200 to talk about those. 316 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,720 Yeah, we can talk about that. 317 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,600 I honestly, I haven't looked into it at all. 318 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,600 Yeah. 319 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:20,800 I think it's the first ever ex-president to be charged with anything or indicted. 320 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,460 And I looked into the issue because Stormy Daniels is going to bring them down and not 321 00:14:25,460 --> 00:14:28,080 in that way again, I guess. 322 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,420 But whatever. 323 00:14:29,420 --> 00:14:32,200 And what it is is that's a nice ash, Mike. 324 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,200 It is a nice ash. 325 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,200 He's dangling it. 326 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,760 And it's one of those things where the cup is over the edge a little too far and you 327 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,480 know it's going to cause an issue. 328 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:45,140 And we did get, I won't say chastised, but we did get told that we should not make a 329 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:46,140 mess in here. 330 00:14:46,140 --> 00:14:51,400 And we've had other episodes where we've made messes in here with some really nice ash, 331 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:56,080 but it went all over the floor and so the ashtray as will happen from time to time. 332 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,620 And so it goes. 333 00:14:57,620 --> 00:14:58,620 And so it goes. 334 00:14:58,620 --> 00:15:04,360 But what happened was apparently or allegedly, I don't know if there's an indictment, do 335 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,720 I still have to say allegedly? 336 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:06,960 Let's just say allegedly to be safe. 337 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:07,960 I'm not a lawyer. 338 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:08,960 I'm not a doctor. 339 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,800 I'm not a tax professional and neither is Mike. 340 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:17,560 So this is just two people talking who vaguely understand some of the concepts that are happening. 341 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:24,560 But allegedly Trump's lawyer at the time, who I think has since been fired and went 342 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:32,880 to jail, himself paid $130,000 to keep Stormy Daniels quiet. 343 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,440 He paid her hush money. 344 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:41,440 And what happened was Trump allegedly reimbursed his lawyer from campaign funds, which is a 345 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,920 no-no and at least one of the charges being brought is a felony charge. 346 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,740 Yes, of embezzlement from a political campaign. 347 00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:57,160 So if he did, in fact, misappropriate funds from his political campaign, that would be, 348 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,080 first of all, really stupid because he could have just used dark money from a pack. 349 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,640 He could have just used his alone from his daddy. 350 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Right. 351 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,640 Yeah. 352 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,640 He should be worth $5 billion. 353 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:07,640 Right. 354 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,040 So a hundred and let's just say between a hundred and $200,000 is not a lot of money. 355 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,040 Not to them. 356 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,040 Not to the ruling class. 357 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,560 Yeah, not to him. 358 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,800 So the fact that he embezzled it from his own campaign is double stupid because one, 359 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,800 he has the money on hand. 360 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,800 He should have that on hand. 361 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,480 Yeah, he could just pull that out of his pocket. 362 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,920 He could have used dark money from a pack and nobody would have ever been the wiser. 363 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,920 Yeah. 364 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,160 So it's double stupid and we know for a fact he's got packs. 365 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,160 Yeah. 366 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,920 And we know for a fact that he probably did it, you know, because he likes to brag about 367 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,040 all the things he does and how he can get away with everything. 368 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,520 His lawyer went to jail for doing it. 369 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:43,520 Yeah. 370 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,360 So there's enough evidence to put him in jail. 371 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:53,040 It's a matter of how, what level of involvement did Donald Trump have directly in the action? 372 00:16:53,040 --> 00:17:00,160 And typically those characters are layers of involvement separated to where you can, 373 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,880 it's called plausible deniability. 374 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,040 Yeah. 375 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,320 For those who know, everybody who is listening should be an adult and knows about plausible 376 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,320 deniability. 377 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,320 But hopefully, hopefully also don't talk to cops. 378 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,960 They're not your friends. 379 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,040 Your lawyer is your friend mostly. 380 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,240 But yeah, I can't imagine that he doesn't have plausible deniability. 381 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,240 I don't know. 382 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:27,720 I think it's one of those circumstances where he's pissed off enough people now, you know, 383 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,120 and this doesn't matter if you like him or don't like him. 384 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:33,200 Like if you like him, I'm not trying to trigger you. 385 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,040 I'm just saying he's pissed off enough people. 386 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,240 And the people that like Trump say, well, that's what he's supposed to do. 387 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,200 And people that hate Trump is that's because he's an asshat. 388 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,360 Whatever your take on it is, he's pissed off enough people because let's face it, he thinks 389 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:47,960 he's the big bull in the China shop. 390 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,000 And he is in many ways to be honest or he is in many ways. 391 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,160 But he's pissed off enough people and we all know you can only piss off so many people 392 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,880 for somebody needs to get paid or somebody needs to go down or somebody needs to be put 393 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,240 in their place. 394 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:06,560 And of all of the things they could get him for paying a porn star off seems like such 395 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,760 a little tiny thing in the grand scheme of his career, let's say. 396 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:16,680 Well, that's the thing about Trump is that he doesn't really break any laws. 397 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,280 He uses the law and manipulates the law. 398 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,280 As they all do. 399 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,280 As they all do. 400 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,760 It's just that he has been a public figure since my, well, my entire life. 401 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,640 He's been a public figure. 402 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,040 And he's honest and open about what he's doing. 403 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,040 He's not, yeah. 404 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,720 That doesn't mean he's a great person. 405 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,560 That doesn't mean he has good moral character. 406 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:43,320 But he's to that point where he feels he's untouchable and whatever your thoughts on 407 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:50,080 the election or the big lie or whatever, your thoughts are he's vocal about what he thinks 408 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:57,360 to his detriment because a lot of other people in power, let's just say, go the other way 409 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:00,680 and they don't talk a whole lot unless it's from a script. 410 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,320 And I don't think Trump likes scripts a whole lot. 411 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,840 He likes to go and pretend like he's telling it as it is. 412 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,600 But that's the best way if you're a public figure, if you're a celebrity to get yourself 413 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,600 in trouble. 414 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,320 Well, he's the pussy grabber in chief for a reason, you know. 415 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:21,360 Well, and some of the posts I saw online were, we're going to prove to Trump he can't grab 416 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:22,520 any pussy. 417 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,520 And somebody was like, that's not why they're indicting him. 418 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:31,360 And the response was, well, the arc of justice is long or something. 419 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:35,200 But I don't think they're ever going to indict him for saying that kind of stuff. 420 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,200 And they're probably never going to indict him for the January 6th thing. 421 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,480 Maybe they took all those oath breakers or oath brothers, whatever they're called. 422 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,480 Oath keepers. 423 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,040 Oath keepers, sorry. 424 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,800 Not sorry, not sorry. 425 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,780 But they took most of them to prison. 426 00:19:50,780 --> 00:19:56,880 Some of them, I mean, there's a significant amount of evidence that January 6th was assisted 427 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,880 by the FBI. 428 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,880 Yeah. 429 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,440 Well, we've talked about that before on the show. 430 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,520 It doesn't really matter. 431 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,520 I think that this is a huge mistake by the prosecution. 432 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,320 It's only going to bolster Trump's supporters. 433 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,440 It'll bolster them. 434 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:15,860 But as we've talked about on the show, too, I think Trump has caused a divide in the Republican 435 00:20:15,860 --> 00:20:20,640 Party because a lot of the Republicans this last midterm election were faced with the 436 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:25,960 choice of do I support Trump or do I distance myself from Trump? 437 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:31,840 And we kind of saw, and I don't know the stats, but we saw almost a 50% divide, right? 438 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,720 You know, like some kind of distance themselves and some took it upon themselves to try and 439 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,440 bring Trump closer to the vest. 440 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:45,120 And all of that is, is just political bolstering for these lesser politicians, we'll say. 441 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:49,000 I don't mean lesser in the sense that they're worse politicians, but they're not ex-president 442 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,000 politicians, right? 443 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,800 So they're trying to buddy up to who they think will next be in power. 444 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,080 And that's how politics works. 445 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:59,640 And if you don't know that, then you'll learn eventually, I guess, or always be consistently 446 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,640 angry. 447 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,700 But some of these politicians, they're doing their own calculations on will Trump be my 448 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:09,980 ticket to further my career or will he sink my career? 449 00:21:09,980 --> 00:21:13,040 And we've seen people come down on both sides, even within the Republican Party. 450 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,920 Well, the Republican Party nationally, nationally is a minority party. 451 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:23,560 They haven't won a majority of the voters in decades. 452 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,900 And Trump, depending on how it plays out, Trump is a spoiler because people like my 453 00:21:28,900 --> 00:21:34,600 dad, who's been a lifetime Republican, will not vote for Trump or any politician that's 454 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,600 like Trump. 455 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,360 So the last Republican that ran in Minnesota was Scott Jensen, I think his name was. 456 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:41,880 I can't remember. 457 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,160 And we were talking about it. 458 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:50,440 And he said that he would never vote for him because he was a hardcore right-wing Christian 459 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,760 nationalist. 460 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,120 And my dad's not a Christian. 461 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:59,160 And I suppose you'd call him a nationalist, but he doesn't care for that Trumpy style 462 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,160 Christian nationalist conspiracy theory type of stuff. 463 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:10,120 Well, I think the distinction to be made is you can love your country, but not be a right-wing 464 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:15,800 nationalist or a fascist or whatever it is, whatever you want to call these people. 465 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,040 You can love your country and not be a flag waiver. 466 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,040 Right. 467 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,880 Well, my dad doesn't have a flag pole and he was in the military for 30 years. 468 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,480 Let's put it that way. 469 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,480 Yeah. 470 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,840 But I mean, if he's convicted of a felony, he can't run for president again. 471 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:28,840 Yeah, he can. 472 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Can he? 473 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,840 Yes. 474 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Felons can run for president, but they can't vote. 475 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,840 Yes. 476 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,400 Felons can serve in elective office. 477 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,520 People who are currently in a trial can run for elected office. 478 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,080 There's a guy, I can't remember his name. 479 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,000 But what you're saying is even if he's convicted of a felony. 480 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,080 He could be president and be in prison, as far as I'm aware. 481 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:52,160 Because there was a senator or a congressman from Baltimore, I want to say, is one of the 482 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,880 East Coast city areas. 483 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,760 He was indicted on felony charges and he won his election during his trial. 484 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,680 And they dropped the charges just because he was serving in Congress. 485 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,600 But he would have been, he was guilty. 486 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,720 He was, I mean, well, the evidence I saw, which was the news narrative. 487 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,320 And that shouldn't be a thing either. 488 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,840 If you're guilty, they should vacate the election. 489 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,840 Yeah. 490 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,840 You know what I mean? 491 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,800 Like they shouldn't let you off because you're now serving the government. 492 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,520 Indicting Trump makes no sense. 493 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,600 They'll never get a conviction. 494 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,680 How are you going to have a jury convict a former president of any crime? 495 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,680 You're going to have at least one of those people who are going to be sympathetic. 496 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,680 Yeah. 497 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,280 I think that this is one of those things. 498 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,280 And we talked about this during the Mike Lovzacoka episode. 499 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,560 But like fan service, right? 500 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,560 Like most of the country now, I mean, think about it, probably most of the country, because 501 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,320 Trump has driven a wedge in the GOP. 502 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,960 Most of the country does not like Trump. 503 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,960 The majority. 504 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,960 Right? 505 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,960 Yeah. 506 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,960 Yeah. 507 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,960 The majority does not like Trump. 508 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,640 And I know there's still staunch Trump supporters out there and they're going to say, well, 509 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,880 that's because this and that doesn't matter. 510 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,040 The fact of the matter is no Democrat likes Trump. 511 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,080 And now Trump has splintered the Republican party to where some of them don't like him 512 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,080 either. 513 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,720 If you just go straight odds where 50% of the country is Democrat leaning and 50% is 514 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,080 Republican leaning, which is complete bullshit. 515 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,200 But let's just say for sake of argument, that's true. 516 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,520 His odds of ever winning another election are very, very slim. 517 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,600 His odds of being indicted are probably also very, very slim. 518 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,040 But the fact of the matter is most of the people in the country or majority of the people 519 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,740 in the country want to see some sort of justice over the shit show that is Trump. 520 00:24:37,740 --> 00:24:42,760 And he's no more of a shit show than Biden or than Clinton or than Bush or than any of 521 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,640 these politicians, JFK, you know, the poster child of, you know. 522 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,480 People need to keep in mind, and this is just my personal opinion, but I think it's the 523 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,200 opinion of a lot of people. 524 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,200 I would say this is the majority opinion that Donald Trump is the worst presidential candidate 525 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,240 we've ever had minus one. 526 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:05,200 And that was Hillary Clinton and Joe and Joe Biden is possibly the second worst presidential 527 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,520 candidate we've ever had, maybe even worse than Hillary Clinton. 528 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,840 But he won, you know what I mean? 529 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,040 So he's like the second worst or whatever. 530 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,080 Yeah, I mean, so we're not, we're just not fans of politicians in general. 531 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,600 Not the ones we have right now, that's for sure. 532 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:25,720 But I feel like this is more of a whoever's doing this, serving up the indictment. 533 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,040 They're like, people want something. 534 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,180 We don't want, we don't want the people to burn the entire system down. 535 00:25:31,180 --> 00:25:33,600 So we need to show them the system is trying. 536 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,080 Does anyone really care? 537 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,480 I mean, does anyone really care if Trump gets charged or not or gets convicted or not? 538 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,860 Yeah, some people do. 539 00:25:40,860 --> 00:25:45,320 Some people really care and they are beside themselves right now and they can't stand 540 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,240 to think of him not being convicted. 541 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,440 Whereas it doesn't affect my life if he is or isn't. 542 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,280 No, there's some big Trump haters out there and I don't understand it. 543 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,280 And it's fine. 544 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,920 You know, he's not a warm, bubbly personality. 545 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,360 He's not a friendly fellow. 546 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,280 I'm not inviting him to friendsgiving. 547 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,520 No, you know, but does it really matter? 548 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,520 No. 549 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,600 What's the biggest thing at stake here? 550 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:14,520 The American belief in heavy air quotes, the system, which is our politicians are good 551 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,440 and when they're bad, we take them and make them pay their due diligence. 552 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,680 Well, he's not going to pay his due diligence even if he's convicted. 553 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,880 You know, there's going to be all sorts of other loopholes or he's going to contest it. 554 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,880 It'll get overturned. 555 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,880 It's going to drag out until it gets overturned. 556 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,000 Everybody else forgets about it and he's going to retire on his golf course. 557 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Quick break. 558 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Yes. 559 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,200 I am at least halfway through. 560 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,200 I like it. 561 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,200 It's very good. 562 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,440 No flavor change, but I like it. 563 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,800 And I think, oh, go on. 564 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,440 I was going to say, but it's a very good flavor. 565 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,440 It's medium to light. 566 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,280 I would say it's a lighter side. 567 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,280 Very good. 568 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,280 It's very good. 569 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,960 I like it because a few puffs I took of it reminded me of when you, when you go. 570 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,520 And so we have, we don't really have a spice cabinet because our kitchen is very small. 571 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,720 So we have a spice Tupperware thing that we slide out of a space that was meant for like 572 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,000 a basting pan or something back in the sixties when the house was built. 573 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,240 I don't know. 574 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:13,920 And you know that kind of like, it's like an earthy, like spicy, but not, not like spicy, 575 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:20,240 spicy, but like just spice, uh, more like a parsley spice than like a pepper spice. 576 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,240 You know what I mean? 577 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,320 Just a, just a nice, like it's almost got grandma's cooking or something. 578 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,320 Umami flavors. 579 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,600 You know, like it's a, it's a really, it's a very complex flavor. 580 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,000 If you can, if you appreciate it, that umami like a soy sauce like that. 581 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Yeah. 582 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Yep. 583 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,000 And it's just, uh, just enough of that. 584 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,040 I mean, it doesn't take it. 585 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,040 So don't get me wrong. 586 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,920 I'm not saying I feel like I'm inhaling oregano, but it just, some of the puffs and the, and 587 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:51,160 the, the smoke in my nose reminded me of a, like a well stocked spice kitchen or something 588 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,000 where you have kind of those different flavors and scents mixing together. 589 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,140 And uh, I really enjoy it. 590 00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:00,440 There is a pepper undertone. 591 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,960 There is a little bit of a pepper undertone. 592 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,920 It's very, it's complex herbal. 593 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,920 Yeah it is herbal. 594 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:06,920 Herbal or whatever. 595 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,920 Herb. 596 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,920 What are you doing in my herbs? 597 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,920 Herbs. 598 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:10,920 Yeah, that's very good. 599 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,920 No, I like this one. 600 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,600 This one's really good. 601 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,080 So extra thank you to Kayla and Gary. 602 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,080 Yeah. 603 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,080 Thank you very much. 604 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,640 We're always open to sponsor sticks. 605 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,640 Yep. 606 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,640 Absolutely. 607 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:22,640 Sponsorships. 608 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,640 I know Kayla, but I don't know Gary. 609 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,640 So there we go. 610 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,680 Well, we'll have to, because Gary loves a lot of the same things you do, uh, fishing and 611 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,680 hunting. 612 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,680 I'm sure that we have similar interests. 613 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,680 Yes. 614 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:37,560 Um, but anyway, uh, to this back to the Trump talk, never forget the gross. 615 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,560 Oh yeah. 616 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,560 See the gross on the. 617 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,560 Yeah, I see it. 618 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,560 Yeah. 619 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,400 We used to go grouse hunting all the time and I don't know how many of you have, I mean 620 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,120 grouse are kind of, uh, nationwide. 621 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,120 No different forms. 622 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,120 Rough grouse are. 623 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,120 Rough grouse. 624 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,120 Rough grouse are like. 625 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,120 There's also like wooded areas. 626 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,120 Yeah. 627 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,120 But there's other grouse down south. 628 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,120 There he goes. 629 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,400 I love when they, I love when they drum. 630 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Yeah. 631 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,400 Oh, they drum. 632 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,400 Yeah. 633 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,040 I'm not sure how many coveys we have this year. 634 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,520 We had two coveys last year. 635 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,520 Okay. 636 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,520 I'm hoping that we have more. 637 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,120 I do think, cause we have a covey there and I know we have a covey up there. 638 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,560 I think we have another one there and those guys are set up over here. 639 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,560 Right. 640 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,560 We might have four this year, but I don't shoot them, uh, because I want to have the 641 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,240 grouse around because they eat the ticks and the grouse hunting is so fun though. 642 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,560 Um, it's crazy because pheasant pheasant you've gone pheasant hunting. 643 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,560 Yeah. 644 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,560 I'm sorry. 645 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,880 I'm just, I'm not, I'm not trying to assume. 646 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,880 I know. 647 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,880 I assume you're manliness. 648 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,920 I know you're, I go, I go pheasant hunting every year. 649 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,440 Pheasants is like shooting down bombers almost. 650 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,000 And grouse hunting is like trying to shoot down a fighter jet, uh, especially in the 651 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,000 woods. 652 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,880 Cause you have to, you be like, we've usually hunted them in the woods. 653 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880 Yeah. 654 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,280 It's like thick woods and there's trees and you have to try and like shoot them through 655 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,280 there. 656 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,280 Like it's a challenge. 657 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,280 It's, it's quite entertaining. 658 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,400 I would say, I would say fighter jets would be more like teal or, uh, or dogs maybe. 659 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,400 Yeah. 660 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,400 Woodcock. 661 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Yeah. 662 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,400 Yeah. 663 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,400 Yeah. 664 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,400 I love, I love dove hunting. 665 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,400 Okay. 666 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,400 I'm not a dove hunting. 667 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Uh, you know how fast like a Woodcock or a teal flies? 668 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,160 One point two, one point two five. 669 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,160 They're fast. 670 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,160 Okay. 671 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,160 They're really fast. 672 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,640 So now you're going to say never forget. 673 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,640 Oh yeah. 674 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,080 With the trumps, with the, with the, yeah, with the Trump talk, the main never forget 675 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:22,200 the Oliver North defense, which Trump, no matter what, if they can victim, he's going 676 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:28,040 to have a retrial and then he will use the Oliver North defense, which is this is too 677 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,280 public of a trial. 678 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,060 I'm too much of a public figure. 679 00:30:31,060 --> 00:30:33,880 We cannot get an unbiased jury. 680 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,640 Therefore the conviction needs to be thrown out because the public knows too much and 681 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,640 it can't be fair. 682 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,640 But you know what? 683 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,880 He's probably, he's not wrong. 684 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,960 He's not wrong. 685 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,960 He's not right. 686 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,840 I mean, it's baloney, but that shouldn't make you untouchable. 687 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,200 It does make you untouchable. 688 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,320 If you're a public figure, why don't we put them down to what? 689 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,880 Isn't the Dominican Republic a US territory or Papua New Guinea or something like we have 690 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,000 other Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico. 691 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Let's try them in Puerto Rico. 692 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,000 Midway. 693 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Yeah. 694 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Like let's try them. 695 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,440 One of our things that we deny statehood to, but we'll let them try them down there. 696 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,440 Right. 697 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,440 Yep. 698 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,440 I'm not sure if midway is even popular anymore. 699 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,440 I don't know. 700 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,240 I don't know enough about that area. 701 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:17,040 Years ago, that region before, right after I broke out as a journeyman, before I moved 702 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,320 back to Minnesota, I was traveling. 703 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,440 And to be clear, that's journeyman not broke out as journey. 704 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,440 The band. 705 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,600 I did not. 706 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:31,600 I was looking at working internationally and they were decommissioning a few military bases 707 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:38,320 on the Midway Island systems because the rising ocean waters were flooding the underwater 708 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,880 parts of the military bases. 709 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,440 So they were decommissioning them, taking all the equipment apart, shipping it across 710 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,800 to different locations and reassembling it for the research stations. 711 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,440 And I almost applied to that. 712 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,520 I was like, ah, that'd be pretty interesting. 713 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,680 You had to do like a three year commitment. 714 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,680 Okay. 715 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,800 And it was good money, but it wasn't more. 716 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,880 It was less than what I was making at the time. 717 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:00,880 Yeah, sure. 718 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,880 But it was still good. 719 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,640 And you didn't have to pay taxes on it because you were out of country for three years guaranteed. 720 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,640 Yeah. 721 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,720 So it was tax free, you know, whatever it was. 722 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,920 I think I know the number. 723 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,920 It doesn't really matter. 724 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,920 Yeah. 725 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,920 But it was less than what I was making. 726 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,800 I was like, mm, yeah, it was less, but it was more because there was no tax. 727 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:27,160 So do you want to talk about the party we crashed earlier today? 728 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,360 We can or that's up to you. 729 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,720 It's a mildly amusing anecdote. 730 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,480 Mike won something else. 731 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,480 Oh yeah. 732 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,480 I won a gift. 733 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,480 Yeah. 734 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Well, he won a bottle chugging contest. 735 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,480 A bottle chugging contest. 736 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,480 So yeah, I won a gift. 737 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,280 A bottle chugging contest so he can work the nip. 738 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,600 I guess I can work the nip. 739 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,640 But I, because my wife is pregnant and had her baby shower and Mike, Sarah and my Sarah 740 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,640 were together. 741 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,880 The universe did not explode yet. 742 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,200 And Mike and I were together and the universe has not exploded yet. 743 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,200 Yes. 744 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,200 But we got voluntold. 745 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,760 Well, I got voluntold, but my condition was I wasn't going to do any kind of baby shower 746 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,600 game unless Mike also did it because you know, it's something good to talk about on the podcast 747 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,600 if we both do it. 748 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,600 Right. 749 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,120 Otherwise it's just one of us making fun of me. 750 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,120 Right. 751 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,120 Which I'm not all about. 752 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,680 If we're going to make fun of me, we both need to be making fun of me. 753 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,680 Yes. 754 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,680 But he won. 755 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,680 I did win. 756 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,680 He won by a landslide. 757 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,680 By a landslide. 758 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,800 They put orange juice in these baby bottles. 759 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,320 And it was pulp orange juice. 760 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,280 It was very pulpy and I was sucking the pulp through the knot. 761 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,080 You had to suck it hard to get it through the nozzle. 762 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,080 Oh yeah. 763 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:48,440 I'm not sure if you noticed, but my Sarah was wearing a scarf that was to cover up evidence. 764 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,920 Evidence of a nipple suck. 765 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,920 Yeah. 766 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,920 Session. 767 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,920 Session. 768 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:59,720 I didn't want to say anything because you never know for sure with people over 25 if 769 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:05,640 it's a passion mark, as they say, or if it's some other thing. 770 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,640 Yeah. 771 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,040 And it's kind of the same as you don't ever go up to a woman and be like, hey, congratulations 772 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,040 on being pregnant. 773 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,040 Yeah. 774 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,360 Unless they have previously told you that they're pregnant. 775 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,280 Those are just things you don't really do. 776 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,760 And I played it cool. 777 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,760 Yes. 778 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,760 Yeah. 779 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,760 That was an accident. 780 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,760 Yes. 781 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:32,160 I find myself... We don't need to talk about this, actually. 782 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,160 There we go. 783 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,160 That's perfectly fine. 784 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,160 Let's carry on. 785 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,760 We're editing for you in the future. 786 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,760 Yes. 787 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,040 Future me thanks present me. 788 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,040 Yes. 789 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,160 Oh, I love doing that. 790 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,160 Our guests have been pretty good. 791 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,160 Yeah. 792 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,160 Yeah, they have. 793 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,160 Yeah. 794 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,760 By the way, when I was out there messing with the dog, they were a different group of- 795 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,760 Grouse. 796 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:53,760 Grouse. 797 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,840 Kind of doing their little dance out in the driveway. 798 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,840 So that's good. 799 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,840 Yeah. 800 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,840 It's neat seeing wildlife. 801 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,840 Heck yeah. 802 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:05,360 Like I say, we hunted them one year and then we didn't have grouse here for so freaking 803 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,360 long. 804 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,360 Yeah. 805 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,720 And it's like, no, I'm not doing that again. 806 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:09,720 Yeah. 807 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:12,360 If we had a cornfield still, that'd be different. 808 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,360 It'd be different. 809 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,360 Yeah. 810 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,360 Yeah. 811 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,360 That draws everything in. 812 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,360 We had a cornfield at the time. 813 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,360 Deer and pheasant and grouse. 814 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,360 Yeah. 815 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,520 And everything is... And pheasant and grouse, I think grouse especially so, is very dependent 816 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,520 on the fox population. 817 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,520 Yeah. 818 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,560 So if the fox population is up, generally the grouse population is down. 819 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,560 And then when the grouse population comes back, the fox population pops back. 820 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,480 There's an established fox den over on that point. 821 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,480 Okay. 822 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,560 If you look through the woods, there's that point. 823 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,280 There's a den on that point. 824 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,280 Okay. 825 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,800 Because that's where our gut pile is. 826 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,800 Oh yeah. 827 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,280 All of our carcasses go there. 828 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,280 Yeah. 829 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,000 And so they have made a den there because they get food. 830 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Yeah. 831 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,480 If they sit there and chill all winter, there's usually enough for them to chill and you 832 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,640 can eat and not have to work too hard for the winter. 833 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,640 Yeah. 834 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,640 That's what we're all about. 835 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:01,640 Yeah. 836 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,160 Although this winter has been the opposite of that with all the snow we have been getting. 837 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,840 It's all fine. 838 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,840 Summer is on the horizon. 839 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,840 Oh yeah. 840 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,840 We got turkeys here too. 841 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,880 They nest all here. 842 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,240 Oh my God. 843 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:14,240 So many of them. 844 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:15,240 Yeah. 845 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:19,680 Down in the cities the most that we see, we see a lot of hawks and peregrine falcons. 846 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,680 Yeah. 847 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,680 They do have peregrine falcons. 848 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,040 And they sit on the street lamps on the highways. 849 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,040 Yep. 850 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,040 And wait for roadkill basically. 851 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:32,760 And then we get swans and geese and ducks and we get herons in the parks and stuff that 852 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,520 have ponds or water features. 853 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,120 And so those are kind of cool. 854 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,720 And then one year, this is before we moved down there, I went with my family and we saw, 855 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:48,640 I believe it was in Ygritte at one of the mini golf places down in Edina of all things. 856 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,480 And I think that's something that's cool. 857 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:57,280 And I don't know, I mean Minneapolis is probably better than average with green space versus 858 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,480 other major metropolitan cities. 859 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,480 Yeah. 860 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,480 If you look at the happiness indexes, Minneapolis is actually pretty nice. 861 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:10,800 But I've seen other foreign big cities that have way more green space than even Minneapolis. 862 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:16,760 And I'm an architecture minor and I would really enjoy to see more creative green space. 863 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,760 Sure. 864 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,360 I was just reading an article this past week about how they were converting all of these 865 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:29,760 big roadways to be shared spaces or dropping from six lanes to four lanes and putting two 866 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,480 lanes as bike paths or walking paths or gardens or trees. 867 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:41,340 They had one where they converted two parking spaces into a bike space, like a bike parking 868 00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:44,880 space and they counted up, they could fit two cars there previously because it was a 869 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,880 two car stall. 870 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,840 And you fit, I don't know, 21 to 30 bikes in the same space. 871 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:55,040 And so in a big city, not in the North where we have snow, like that's a big deal because 872 00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,240 then you can have, instead of having 31 cars having to park elsewhere or other places, 873 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,020 because that would only hold two cars, you'd have potentially 31 people utilize the same 874 00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:05,280 space that two cars take. 875 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,280 So you're maximizing the bike ability. 876 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,280 Yep. 877 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,080 And I love riding my bike anywhere I can. 878 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:15,040 When I lived in Minneapolis, I had a bike and take the train everywhere. 879 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,040 And it was awesome. 880 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,240 When I was working down there for two week periods of time, I didn't even drive my vehicle. 881 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:26,960 I would just drive to go North and then come back. 882 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,440 And I didn't drive any other time. 883 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,520 It was a really, I enjoyed it actually. 884 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:36,200 I really enjoy when a city can make alternative transportation other than automobiles. 885 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,200 Yes. 886 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:43,040 And there was a point in American, I'm sure other cultures too, but my son and I have 887 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:48,840 been watching the documentary series, America's National Parks, or National Parks, America's 888 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:55,480 Best Idea, because America pioneered the national park idea just worldwide. 889 00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,400 And it starts out with the first national park and the national monument and all this 890 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,720 other stuff. 891 00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:05,320 And they were trying to increase visitors to the park because that's how they got money 892 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,840 to then take care of this land. 893 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,200 Well, automobiles became a thing and they started putting highways and roadways through 894 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,320 these national parks or near these parks. 895 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,560 And there's a big debate. 896 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,960 Do we put the roads through the park? 897 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,960 Do we put them near the park? 898 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,240 And at the time they wanted more visitors. 899 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:26,640 Well, once automobiles caught on, that led to other issues with the national parks. 900 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,600 But that also kind of, I feel, and I don't know, I could be wrong, but I feel like that 901 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:37,760 embracement of the national park system of automobiles was part of a larger kind of mentality 902 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,900 shift with city planning and Americanism and roadways. 903 00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:50,400 And do we design our cities to prioritize automobiles versus pedestrians versus bicycles? 904 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,540 And I feel like it's part of a bigger thing. 905 00:39:52,540 --> 00:39:57,240 And I'm not a civil engineering history expert by any stretch of the means. 906 00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:01,120 But I know that in that documentary series, they were talking about how the national parks 907 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,640 were faced with that conundrum. 908 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:08,120 Do we keep these as seen as possible, meaning not as many people can enjoy them? 909 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,680 Or do we prioritize the automobile so that everybody can come here? 910 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,760 And they did park stickers. 911 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,320 Every park you got to, they had a park passport. 912 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,320 You get a sticker, you get a stamp, and people would then try and collect all the stamps, 913 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,280 which is great for the national parks because that's one person visiting all the national 914 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,280 parks. 915 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,280 They still do that. 916 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,280 And they still do that. 917 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,080 But I think that they've kind of pulled back a little bit from being like, yeah, you can 918 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,840 drive your cars right up to Old Faithful or right up to the edge of the Grand Canyon. 919 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,320 Or so they've had to also kind of like dial that back a little bit with more and more 920 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,920 advances in automobiles. 921 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:38,920 Yes. 922 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,240 But it's still pretty accessible. 923 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:43,920 Even the state parks are really accessible as far as... 924 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,760 And I think they mostly should be. 925 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,760 Most of the... 926 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:54,440 Well, most state parks in the state of Minnesota have a mixture of trail systems. 927 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,640 So there's going to be a trail that is going to be wheelchair accessible all the way to 928 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:06,520 like... Sarah and I went to Crosby Manitou and the hiking trail we went on, you had 929 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,480 to go through a bog and a rock slide to go... 930 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,880 I mean, it's like, this is a planned trail that's marked on our map. 931 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,240 And you had to walk through a bog that was unmarked and a fucking rock slide that wasn't 932 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:21,240 re... 933 00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:22,720 I mean, it's been there forever. 934 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:23,900 And people got lost. 935 00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:26,600 We got lost way back into this gully. 936 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,600 Okay. 937 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,600 Yeah. 938 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:29,600 It was... 939 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,600 I enjoyed it. 940 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,600 Yeah. 941 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,920 I know a lot of the parks do kind of what they do with ski hills and they kind of rank 942 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,840 the trails on beginner, intermediate or advanced. 943 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:47,080 And I think that's nice and that's great because Yosemite, you can drive and you can see from 944 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,120 the car, you can see El Capitan and Half Dome. 945 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,760 But if you want to hike up to the top, that's an advanced hike. 946 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,520 You can get there without climbing gear, but it's an advanced hike. 947 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,600 One of our buddies went and said that they had to wait at the cable. 948 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,880 This is a cable for like a handhold to get up to the very tippy top. 949 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,280 And they had to wait if people were coming down or going up or whatever. 950 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,420 It was like a single file type of thing. 951 00:42:11,420 --> 00:42:15,640 And some people were freaking out because it's so high up and rocky terrain and all 952 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,640 that stuff. 953 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,440 So you don't need to be a climber. 954 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,840 You don't have to have the harness and the helmet, but it's still a little more intense 955 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,480 than let's say the average, you know, I like reality TV person or something like that. 956 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,480 Yeah. 957 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,360 So it's nice because you can still see the stuff from your car or from an easily accessible 958 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,360 place. 959 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:39,000 But if you want to experience it kind of as it was originally, then it's a little more 960 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,000 extreme. 961 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000 Yeah. 962 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,000 And there's I like that. 963 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,000 I like that. 964 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,800 I mean, why shouldn't it be accessible to everybody? 965 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,800 Yeah. 966 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,760 Accessibility is key in my opinion. 967 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:55,720 That's I'm not a historian of civil engineering either, but natural architecture was for a 968 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,880 long time in the States wasn't used. 969 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:58,880 Yeah. 970 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,920 And so a lot of the designs became very industrial and very anti-human friendly. 971 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,120 And now we're trending more towards wildlife friendly too. 972 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,120 Yeah. 973 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,280 We're really anti wildlife friendly. 974 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,560 So now we're heading into a phase where it's more we have this highway and we have snow 975 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,040 drifting mixed use. 976 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,520 We could put up a snow fence or we could plant some trees and we could just plant tree rows 977 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,480 and the problem solved. 978 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,480 Yep. 979 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:28,800 One other countries have like amphibian tunnels under their highways every so often so that 980 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,400 the frogs or the turtles can go under the road instead of salamanders crossing the road. 981 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,400 Yep. 982 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:40,160 And I saw a salamander crash when I was working in Dakota because the waters rise, you know, 983 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,840 and then they get up and they do their breeding and the salamanders across the road. 984 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,440 The guy's work truck, he drove over so many salamanders he lost control skidded and flipped 985 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,640 on the side of the highway. 986 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,640 Okay, jeez. 987 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,640 Yep. 988 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:52,640 So what are you going to do? 989 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,640 I mean, yeah, there's only one way to go and there's salamanders on the road. 990 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,360 There's not a lot you can do about it. 991 00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,360 Unfortunately. 992 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,360 Yeah. 993 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,360 I figured I wouldn't tell him about the salamanders. 994 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,800 That was like that whole year. 995 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:10,680 There was so many of them that I just went around all for probably three weeks on service 996 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:16,280 calls and it was just pulling salamander bodies and stuff out of electrical systems because 997 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,080 they crawl up in there and short them out. 998 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,560 You have to clean it all out. 999 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,560 It was disgusting. 1000 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,560 Fried salamander jerky. 1001 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,560 Yep. 1002 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,560 Yep. 1003 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,560 And that was like rattlesnake country too. 1004 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,560 So you have to like be very conscientious of that. 1005 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,560 Yeah. 1006 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,560 But always interesting with that stuff. 1007 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,200 But yeah, and by the way, the national parks are set up the same way to where they have, 1008 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,200 you can do as hard as you want to go. 1009 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,200 Or as easy. 1010 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,200 Yeah. 1011 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,680 Which is nice because if you do a lot of it, you want the challenge and if you don't, but 1012 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,360 you want more than the parking lot or the visitor center view. 1013 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,360 Right. 1014 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,960 And you can keep easing really beautiful paths you can take. 1015 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,960 Yeah. 1016 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,960 I mean, if you want to go for a day hike, sometimes you want to be out there for 10 hours 1017 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,320 and sometimes you really only want to be gone for three and you don't want to be tired by 1018 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,320 the time you're back. 1019 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,320 Yeah. 1020 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,160 Or you want to take an hour trail, but you want to take three hours doing it because 1021 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,520 you just want to be outside. 1022 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:09,520 Yeah. 1023 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,520 Yep. 1024 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,520 Absolutely. 1025 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,200 Sometimes you want to, there's like prairie dog villages you can walk through and all 1026 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,720 kinds of cool stuff. 1027 00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:22,000 At a theater Roosevelt national, they have the original entrance and buildings that are 1028 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,080 out there, but you have to go through a prairie dog village. 1029 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,080 Oh, sure. 1030 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,600 So it's kind of really cool. 1031 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,600 Yeah. 1032 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:33,480 We went to one and I don't know if it was a, it's a state park and it's down by kind 1033 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,480 of new home area. 1034 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,760 I can't remember the name of it right now, but it's in the city of New home. 1035 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,560 No, it's outside up the river. 1036 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,200 Oh, the river. 1037 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:47,000 But it's a old military fort from the native American days. 1038 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,000 Yep. 1039 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,160 And they have original structures out there, but you sit where these structures are and 1040 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,160 you can just see. 1041 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,600 I mean, you can just see and it's a big equestrian park now. 1042 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,600 Yep. 1043 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,600 There. 1044 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,600 Yep. 1045 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,400 And they have the original foundations to the buildings. 1046 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,400 Yeah, the foundations. 1047 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,400 Everybody who lived there. 1048 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,400 Yeah. 1049 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,200 When they tell you how many people live there and I can't remember the name of it right 1050 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,200 now. 1051 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,200 No, I mean, I would look it up really quick if you wanted to. 1052 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,680 I would know if somebody told me, but that's a really neat place. 1053 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,640 And then, you know, you're only 20 minutes from new home where they got the big brewery 1054 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,200 there and they have a state park in new home. 1055 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,200 Oh, okay. 1056 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,200 Yeah. 1057 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,200 Yeah. 1058 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,200 There's a park right there. 1059 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,200 Okay. 1060 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,200 Yeah. 1061 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,200 This one was outside, but it was, you know, it's like, you can go there and they've got 1062 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,200 enough trails and the horse trails and everything. 1063 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,880 So you can walk or do whatever you can drive right up to the foundations and do that big 1064 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,720 loop and see all the foundations. 1065 00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:36,240 And then if you want, you can walk down by the river and it's a little more strenuous. 1066 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:37,480 That's how they term them. 1067 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,400 Like how strenuous is this trail? 1068 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,400 Yep. 1069 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,400 Absolutely. 1070 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,400 Yep. 1071 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,400 We did a day hike there two summers ago and it was really interesting. 1072 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,760 And part of that loop that we did, that little settlement area was part of it. 1073 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:55,080 And then we went past, did you go to the, the burned down little farmstead they had 1074 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,080 there? 1075 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,080 I don't think we went to the farmstead. 1076 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,080 Okay. 1077 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,600 They had a farmstead there and the original inhabitants were killed there in the Sioux 1078 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:01,600 War. 1079 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,600 Oh, okay. 1080 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,600 Yeah. 1081 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,600 Very cool. 1082 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,360 So our loop went through like, we always do the, the park pass loops, which basically 1083 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:15,240 depending on where everything's located, the difficulty varies, but it hits all the like 1084 00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,720 prime spots of the park. 1085 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:20,640 So you kind of see everything in like a, you know, however long it takes you to do the 1086 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,640 loop. 1087 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:22,640 Yep. 1088 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,640 No matter how many miles it is. 1089 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,560 And yeah, it was a very, that was a cool park. 1090 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,560 Yeah. 1091 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:27,560 It's a neat park. 1092 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,560 We brought our kite and so we were fine. 1093 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,560 Our kite, sure. 1094 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,720 That with all the foundations and stuff, cause you're on the top of the hill. 1095 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:33,720 Yep. 1096 00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:34,720 Yep. 1097 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:38,720 And we just, we, our real reason was we had a tour scheduled at the Shell's brewery. 1098 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:39,720 Yes. 1099 00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:43,320 We just wanted to get out and explore a bit before our tour started. 1100 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,720 And so we found that park and Fort Ridgely. 1101 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:47,720 Yeah. 1102 00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:48,720 Okay. 1103 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:49,720 Yeah. 1104 00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:50,720 That makes sense. 1105 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:51,720 Here it comes. 1106 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:52,720 It just popped into my brain. 1107 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:53,720 Yeah. 1108 00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:54,720 Yeah. 1109 00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:55,720 And we went there and you know, it was just fun. 1110 00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:58,720 You know, we brought a lunch and our kite and we just kind of like putzed around and 1111 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:02,720 read the plaques and saw the stuff and went on a little hike down, down by the river. 1112 00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:07,040 Saw a couple of horses, horse riders go by and then I went and did a brewery tour. 1113 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,040 So it was pretty cool. 1114 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,720 They had a little field there with different prairie plants and did you end up going to 1115 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:15,560 the, is that the only one you went to in that area? 1116 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,560 Okay. 1117 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,560 Yeah. 1118 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,560 Yeah. 1119 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,720 It was just kind of like a little day trip, you know, and you know, we were capping it 1120 00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:21,000 off with the brewery tour. 1121 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,560 So our tour wasn't for a bit and we're like, well, let's just go down early. 1122 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,000 There's a park there or, you know, that Fort Ridgely had high reviews. 1123 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,360 So let's check it out. 1124 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,880 We had the park sticker and everything. 1125 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,400 And they have a bison, there's a park down there that has a bison herd. 1126 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,400 Oh, okay. 1127 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,760 So they do a drive through with the bison herd. 1128 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,960 And then they have a trail that goes around the edge. 1129 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:41,960 Yeah. 1130 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,200 And you can see it and they have like a, I don't think it's functional anymore, but an 1131 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,200 old mill. 1132 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,200 Okay. 1133 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,200 Yeah. 1134 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,120 We did one of our, we used to do family trips when I was in high school and stuff and we 1135 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,520 had a full-size conversion van and we would load that thing up and we'd kind of like Griswold 1136 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,520 it a bit. 1137 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:02,040 But we went across the Dakotas and we had 70 mile per hour wind. 1138 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,080 And so we stopped the car and we got out and there's, you know, all the prairie dog holes 1139 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,080 and everything. 1140 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:12,200 And we ran out and we like would jump in the air and it would blow us back. 1141 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,600 And that was really neat and fun. 1142 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,280 And then the other cool thing was there's a wild bison herd and they were right outside 1143 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,120 the windows of the van and we're like slowly driving through at like three miles an hour 1144 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,120 or something. 1145 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,320 But to see them all that close and how big they are. 1146 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,320 They're huge. 1147 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:29,320 Yeah. 1148 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,320 You know, like just amazing. 1149 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,320 Yeah. 1150 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,720 We camped there at, I think you were at, were you at Theodore Roosevelt? 1151 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,360 I can't remember where we were. 1152 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,360 Okay. 1153 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,360 Yeah. 1154 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,360 Driving. 1155 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,800 We were, we, while we stayed at the North and the South unit, we did a winter, a winter 1156 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:49,560 expedition and there was a single bull bison that was spending his days and nights at the 1157 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:55,680 campground next to the port of John or the bathrooms and Sarah had to go over and it 1158 00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,960 was like, the bison was like from here to, you know, I don't know, probably my bedroom 1159 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,160 from the thing. 1160 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,000 And he'd get up and look at you every time he had to go to the bathroom. 1161 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,000 Yeah. 1162 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:12,360 I mean, so I know Como, Como Zoo has some bison, but seeing them in that setting is 1163 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,480 not the same as seeing them right outside your vehicle window. 1164 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,480 No, they're big. 1165 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,960 And throughout all of our, all of our, we hit a lot of the national parks. 1166 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,800 We did a Northwest loop and we did a Southwest loop. 1167 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,800 Cool. 1168 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:31,060 Two different years, you know, but, and we've, we saw the big horn sheep and everything 1169 00:50:31,060 --> 00:50:38,240 and you know, all that stuff, but everywhere you go, there's these really dumb tourists 1170 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:43,960 who want to get as close to the wildlife as possible, which one ruins your picture of 1171 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,040 this wildlife that you want to take. 1172 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,940 And two is not respectful to the wildlife. 1173 00:50:48,940 --> 00:50:55,880 And three is incredibly dangerous because even a bison or a, a, a ram or a sheep, like 1174 00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:01,400 they're not carnivorous, but they're still wild animals and dangerous and will defend 1175 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,320 themselves if they have to, you know. 1176 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,780 Sarah and I have a great story. 1177 00:51:05,780 --> 00:51:08,640 She tells it better than me because she was on the side where the bison was. 1178 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,280 We were driving the loop. 1179 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:11,280 There's a big loop. 1180 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,560 I think it's the North or South unit. 1181 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,240 It might have been South unit, but there's a big loop and you can do the loop and then 1182 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:22,360 there's trails off of it and you can do whatever. 1183 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,720 But there was a bison that was hanging on in the road and we drove past it and he started 1184 00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:27,720 walking. 1185 00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:30,000 So we kind of slowed down, have a picture, you know, but we're in a truck. 1186 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,000 We're trying to keep our distance. 1187 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,000 Yeah. 1188 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,840 So I keep on driving and he swapped. 1189 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,160 He didn't hit my truck. 1190 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,160 Yeah. 1191 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,600 He kind of like little buck, buck close buddy, too, too close for comfort. 1192 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,840 I wasn't trying to harass him, but no, but that's one of those things where him or her, 1193 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,320 you know, I'm assuming it was him. 1194 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,320 He was alone. 1195 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,320 Yeah. 1196 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,320 I mean, it's one of those things where when nature and humanity are kind of, I'll say 1197 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,400 forced, even though, you know, somebody like put the road there. 1198 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,240 So the bison didn't have a say in where the road went. 1199 00:51:58,240 --> 00:51:59,240 Right. 1200 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:03,840 But when they're in close quarters with one another, interesting things can happen. 1201 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,680 So you probably shouldn't try and approach them. 1202 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,320 No, yeah, no, definitely not. 1203 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,320 Definitely not. 1204 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,040 And I, I enjoyed that part of the world. 1205 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:17,360 I lived in Watford city for a long time and I really enjoyed screwing around out there. 1206 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,960 You can, they have the national grasslands and you can bring your vehicles out there. 1207 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,960 Okay. 1208 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,920 And there's like little path paths that are like prairie trail-y, but you can climb up 1209 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,160 on the buttes and then there's like little outlooks and stuff. 1210 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,160 Yeah. 1211 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,520 And the only way you're getting up there is on a truck. 1212 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,520 Yeah. 1213 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,960 And you have to have a four wheel drive truck for sure. 1214 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:34,960 Yeah. 1215 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,960 It's pretty cool. 1216 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,240 You can bring guns out there and shoot, do whatever you want. 1217 00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:38,240 Yeah. 1218 00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:40,560 We used to show up through clay pigeons over the, over the big valleys. 1219 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,560 Oh, sure. 1220 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,200 So it's like 800 foot drop, but you're shooting, you know, it's very cool. 1221 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,760 Very, very cool. 1222 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,280 I picked up a lot of garbage. 1223 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,280 People are not very respectful. 1224 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,200 No, we always try and pick up, pick up trash and stuff. 1225 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,960 Every place we stop, if I see garbage, I'm picking it up. 1226 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,320 I literally just bring garbage bags and throw it in there. 1227 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,200 And then, cause I'm bringing garbage myself, so I have to throw away something. 1228 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,200 Yeah. 1229 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,720 But yeah, I don't get the people that, you know, are dicks to the wildlife and then dicks 1230 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:11,960 to the environment, you know, cause these parks, I mean, it's one of those things where 1231 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,040 the parks are a place where you, you, an individual person can make a difference. 1232 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,040 Yes. 1233 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,200 You pack out your trash, you pick up other people's trash. 1234 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,400 You can actually make a difference. 1235 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:26,320 Not like recycling or using, not using like single use plastics. 1236 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,560 That makes a little bit of a difference or like pollution, but you have these big corporations 1237 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,380 that are responsible for over 70% of all pollution. 1238 00:53:33,380 --> 00:53:38,880 And so the individual, yeah, you can slow it a tiny fraction of a percentage point, 1239 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:44,080 perhaps, but by and large, that's not like you have to curb the corporations. 1240 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:49,520 But in the national parks and out in wildlife, you pick up stuff, you pick up trash and you 1241 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,160 leave it better than you found it. 1242 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,160 Yep. 1243 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,880 And that, that will go a long, long way. 1244 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,240 Well, it's just like my ditch here. 1245 00:53:56,240 --> 00:54:00,160 That's a day of my life that I'll never get back every fucking year picking up people's 1246 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,160 garbage. 1247 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:06,960 And it's like beer cans and cups and you know what, like, why are you throwing out your 1248 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,000 window, your Wendy's cup? 1249 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,000 Yeah. 1250 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,000 Why are you throwing your whatever, whatever your little paper, plastic-y, everything, 1251 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,840 it's paper with plastic coating. 1252 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,920 So it's not disintegrating in the ditch. 1253 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:18,920 No. 1254 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,200 You know, it'll disintegrate eventually, but it's obnoxious. 1255 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,520 I find a lot of beer cans. 1256 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,520 Yeah. 1257 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,520 So many fucking beer cans. 1258 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,880 It's like, really guys? 1259 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:27,880 Yeah. 1260 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:28,880 Well, you're dry. 1261 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,880 You don't have to be drinking while you're driving. 1262 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,560 Even if you are drinking while you're driving, throw it in your own throat. 1263 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:33,880 You have a little plastic bag. 1264 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:34,880 Yeah. 1265 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,880 Throw it in the plastic bag. 1266 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:40,360 And when you get home, well, I feel like part of that is evidence. 1267 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,200 If they were to get pulled over, it is evidence. 1268 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,440 You're making terrible decisions. 1269 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,440 But you know what? 1270 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,720 If you're drinking and driving, the beer can is not what's going to get you in trouble. 1271 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,000 No, it's the case of beer and your... 1272 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,000 It's your AAC. 1273 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,000 Yeah. 1274 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,000 Okay? 1275 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,560 Like, technically it's illegal to transport an open container. 1276 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,000 If you rinse a beer can, it's no longer an open container. 1277 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,000 It was an empty beer bottle of beer can. 1278 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:10,560 And I had somebody that was, let's say, high up in the government in a certain area say 1279 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:15,200 that if you want to bring this beer bottle home, you just rinse it in the sink and then 1280 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,200 it's legal. 1281 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,200 Sure. 1282 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,200 Wine you can bring. 1283 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,200 I know that. 1284 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,360 And I think it depends on the cork on a whiskey bottle. 1285 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,840 You can transport a whiskey bottle. 1286 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:29,400 Because if you get a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue, I don't know what kind of cop would 1287 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:30,400 be... 1288 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,360 If you didn't have a BAC, I don't think... 1289 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,360 Yeah. 1290 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,000 I mean, it comes down to situational a lot of times. 1291 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:42,200 And a lot of the times where the letter of the law would place you guilty, but it's kind 1292 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,200 of situational. 1293 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,000 Like, you have a zero BAC, you're driving just fine. 1294 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,520 We pulled you over because it's that hour of the night or whatever they have. 1295 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,520 Yeah. 1296 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,960 I mean, police will swear up and down they don't have quotas and that's a different topic. 1297 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,600 But it's not a big deal. 1298 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:00,600 So... 1299 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,320 I'm getting flavor change the last quarter, by the way. 1300 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,320 Okay. 1301 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,320 It's getting mustier. 1302 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,320 Yeah. 1303 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,320 Yeah. 1304 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,400 I was going to see if we wanted to do final thoughts on this one and wrap it up. 1305 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,920 Yeah, we can do final thoughts. 1306 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:12,920 I'm still enjoying it, actually. 1307 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,920 I'm not going to still smoke it. 1308 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:14,920 I just... 1309 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:20,320 I don't want to start a whole new topic and I think that we kind of ended on a good note 1310 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:25,840 with go visit your state parks, national parks, pick up some litter. 1311 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,440 So I really enjoyed this one, the 1875. 1312 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,260 Oh, I would highly recommend if you find it. 1313 00:56:32,260 --> 00:56:33,920 Thank you, Kayla and Gary. 1314 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,920 Yeah, big thank you to Kayla and Gary. 1315 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,520 If you would like to send some sponsor sticks our way, we can make that happen. 1316 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:41,520 Otherwise... 1317 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,520 Be safe, have fun. 1318 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:43,520 Catch you next week. 1319 00:56:43,520 --> 00:57:04,520 Bye.