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Welcome to the Nice Ashes.

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I'm Mike.

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I'm Nate and Mike, we have a guest with us this evening.

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We do.

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We have a special guest and his name is Al.

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Yeah, this is Al.

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Nice to meet you, Al.

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Same here.

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Have you guys ever met in person?

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Don't think so.

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I do not believe so.

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I have heard stories far and wide, but not met.

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All bad, I'm sure.

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I'm just going to say I've heard stories far and wide.

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Yeah, they're all true.

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Especially the bad ones.

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Yeah.

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Al's got to cut his stick here.

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All right.

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What are we smoking today?

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Okay, I'll tell you.

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I'll twist my arm into it.

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We are smoking the Dark Sharks.

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This was a bulk pack buy from our not sponsor, pipesandcigars.com.

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I think it works out to be a little over a dollar a stick for these, somewhere around

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the one to two dollar per stick range.

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Very reasonable.

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We're practically giving these away.

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We're here to tell you if it's worth taking them up on that offer or not.

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Yes.

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Though I did see they kind of went up in price a little bit, I think, since I bought the

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pack.

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There may be more like two to three a stick now, but still pretty dang reasonable.

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That's true territory.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to get mine lit.

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It sounds like you are getting yours lit.

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Yes.

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Al has smoked a few cigars.

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Tonight?

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He doesn't really care for cigars.

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No, not tonight.

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Ever.

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No, I don't care for them.

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I can't tell the difference.

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That's why we were smoking the Dark Shark.

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You just cheaped it on me.

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Well, to be fair, sometimes Mike and I can't tell the difference either.

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Yeah.

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So, full disclosure, I'm not a Dark Shark virgin.

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You told me that.

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Yes, I had one last week.

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Are you keeping the results to yourself?

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The results will be kept to myself until the end of the show.

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I assume so.

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Just a few puffs, the drag is not as free flowing as some of the other cigars that we've

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had so it's probably a little more tightly packed, but the taste is not unpleasant at

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the start here.

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No, it's kind of got that acetone, acetone alcohol flavor maybe.

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Yeah.

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There's a little bit of slight, slight bitterness almost, but as we've said before, that's kind

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of to be expected.

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And Al, we've had a few other guests on the show that have not smoked cigars for several,

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several decades, I guess.

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So don't feel intimidated and any thoughts you have on the cigar are perfectly valid

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because we are not experts by any means.

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No, we are not.

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You're going to want to get the edges lit a little better.

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Al is, the center of the cigar is very lit, but his edges are resisting the flame.

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You look good there.

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There we go.

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Hopefully.

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Hopefully.

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Still very much of a novice on this, or a newb.

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Yes.

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Well, that's one of the reasons why I invited you onto the show because it's good for people

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to hear the perspective of somebody who's not a regular cigar smoker.

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One of the things we like to do is suggest who a cigar, or who the cigar would be for,

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I guess.

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Yes.

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And at this price point, the easiest thing is, you know, anybody that doesn't want to

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spend a lot of money on a cigar, but we'll see as we go along smoking if that pans out

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or not to be what our recommendation with this one is.

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I'm a quarter inch in and that liquor taste is gone and now it's very mild.

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Yeah.

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Very mild.

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It's surprisingly mild for a cigar called the Dark Shark.

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Right.

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And this is dark.

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Root beer colored.

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Yes.

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Yes, yes.

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All right.

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Now, many of you know, undoubtedly, that Nate is a board game aficionado.

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One of his big pastimes.

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But you what you don't know is that Al here is also a board game fanatic.

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And I'm assuming that's what you're going to want to talk about.

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Yeah, we can.

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I thought we were just going to play Monopoly over the podcast airwaves tonight.

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Pewter dog to Red 7.

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Yeah.

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How many doubles did that take?

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Yeah.

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I am not a video game or a video game, a board game guy.

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That's not true.

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We played Dune Imperium together.

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That's true.

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I like Dune Imperium.

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I like board games.

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This is not something that I've taken up as a serious hobby.

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Well, it's like anything we got carve out time for it.

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That's true.

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That is very true.

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Yeah.

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Because like I said, you got an OK, Klux and started.

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Yes, I'm starting.

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What are some of your favorite board games, Al?

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Well, right now that I got to play recently is that me and Mike are going through that

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clank acquisition, Inc.

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Oh, yeah.

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Just.

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I'll shoot of the normal clank, but it's a legacy version.

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So that's basically you got like a story in one board game where it can actually where

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you add stickers to your game board.

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You can.

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And some legacy version games, you actually tear up cards.

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OK.

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And all that.

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So like by the end of the playing it, you actually have your own unique board game.

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My my wife and I are about we started three or four years ago and we're halfway through

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the campaign for Charterstone, which is only supposed to take like six hours to finish.

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But that one's a legacy game.

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But I would almost consider that kind of like legacy light because, you know, there's not

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a whole lot of story there and things to come back to.

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And now I've never played Clank any version.

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I know there's a few versions out there and I know that it's a widely popular board game

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intellectual property or whatever.

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Oh, yeah.

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Because, yeah, you got your traditional Dungeon Delver one and you got your sci fi version.

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Air space version of it.

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I do like legacy.

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It's a lot of fun.

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We tried to get my wife to play with us and she went around.

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She doesn't care for it.

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Well, it's the legacy version.

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She didn't care for it.

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Where you're stopping in the middle of the game, adding the stickers or reading up story

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text.

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Right.

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That's the part that I enjoy.

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It's kind of like Dungeons and Dragons.

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But in a board game.

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Yeah, I'd like to I'd like to try Clank and, you know, the Clank legacy.

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There's a few other legacy games like is I don't know is Gloomhaven.

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I don't is that legacy or is that they've got a campaign, but it's not like destructive.

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I don't think.

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It's legacy.

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I would say legacy light.

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Okay.

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You do add stickers to it.

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I'm not sure if you rip up cards in it at all, but I have the game.

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But I never been able to play it yet.

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Yeah.

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I've tried it on Steam a couple of times and I'm not even for through the first scenario.

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Because it's also a lot different gameplay.

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Yeah.

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Than your normal games.

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So a lot more complex.

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Because, yeah, you get you get a handful of cards and you use like top half of one card.

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You have to make use two cards to make basically one card and what you're doing.

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Okay.

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Because you have like one top card so you could attack the other bottom of the card

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says you can like move and you try to manage your cards and not go all the way out by the

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end of the scenario.

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Okay.

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So it's kind of like card crafting.

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Yeah.

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And the further you play along you get more cards and you get rid of your bad cards.

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Yes.

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But that game is a beast because Mike sees right now can see easy how big plank is the

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all acting game.

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Yeah.

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And the gloom havens double that size.

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Wow.

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The toys that clink legacy game is that's the size of a workbook box.

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It's big.

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So it's got to be huge.

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And they're coming out with their second game here I think shortly.

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Frost Haven.

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Oh yeah.

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I saw that was they kick started that a while back now.

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Yeah.

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I think back in 2020 I think it was being kick started.

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Yeah.

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I you know mildly or briefly kind of looked at that because I'd never played gloom havens

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so I didn't have a huge interest in in frost haven and I've got the rise of Fenris campaign.

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It's like an eight eight game campaign.

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So it's not legacy but you know it's got kind of the similar campaign storyline to it for

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size.

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But I haven't had time to play that because you need you need like you know it's eight

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games so you need somebody that's willing to put in you know two hours a week for eight

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weeks basically to get through it because if you give those things too much time in

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between I find it's really hard to kind of get back into them.

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Oh yeah.

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I'm just waiting for me and Mike finally get back into playing because we haven't been

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back into it since last winter I think.

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It was spring probably.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I got a new position.

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He's been working like a madman.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I got evening shifts at where I'm working now so I get done at like 2 30 a.m.

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Yes.

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I get three days off.

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Well that's good.

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Yeah.

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Yes sir.

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Yeah.

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Yeah I will say this dark shark is a little sweeter than I was kind of led to believe.

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It's not that it's not bad.

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No it's not bad.

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It's not and it's not overly sweet but you know it's looking at it and the color of the

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wrapper it's kind of like deceptively sweet so it's I think if you smoked it side by side

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with you know like a lighter wrappered cigar you wouldn't think that this one is overly

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sweet but you know going into it with the name like dark shark it's sweet enough to

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be like huh.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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It's not overly dark tasting.

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Tastes fine though.

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It's not bad.

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What do you think of it now?

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It's pretty good so far from the other teaching lessons like I'm not hacking on it or anything.

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I was a cigarette smoker.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Completely different style of smoking for cigars.

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Yeah.

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Yes it is.

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But roll your own cigarettes.

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Oh yeah I know a few people who do that.

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Have a lot cheaper.

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Yeah and I think you can kind of control like what's in it more because don't they put different

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additives in the store bought.

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You can always buy different blends and blend your own.

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Yeah.

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And you can then also to determine how packed you want your cigarette.

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You want like super packed or nicely or a little bit on the loose side.

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It just takes well like once you make like two or three packs you basically got what

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you're looking for by then.

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Right.

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Are you in your second or third machine?

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I think I went through two mechanicals and I'm still on my electric one right now.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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When you roll your own cigarettes do you have an option like I don't know this is going

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to be really dumb because I don't know anything about rolling my own cigarettes.

263
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No problem.

264
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But do you get to choose like your different paper like is there paper that might have

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different like tastes you know.

266
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Sometimes they'll dip like cigar tips in different things or you know the tip has or the cap

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or whatever they call it.

268
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The only difference I've seen so far just in the paper wise is I mean because I'm not

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I don't like smoking menthols but it's like I've seen like these boxes on sale for like

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a buck for 200 like 250 rolls.

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So I was like I bought those not thinking early and I was in a green box so like the

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whole box was all menthol.

273
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Okay.

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Wrap and say okay well I'll get through these.

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But that's so far and I because like when I first started rolling on one side I was trying

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to ask the clerks like which ones give me the better smoke.

277
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Yep.

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And they give me like I don't know like try these the Zen one because I mainly go between

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Zen wraps or for a while there was tops.

280
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I think the Zen ones give me a little bit more smoke.

281
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Oh there we go.

282
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Yeah.

283
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During the Obama administration they banned flavored cigarettes other than menthol.

284
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So I'm guessing that they are not allowed to sell roll your own that flavor.

285
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Yeah.

286
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Yeah.

287
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Yeah.

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Because I know that I used to in buy occasionally in a brand called Sweet Dreams.

289
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They were German flavored cigarettes.

290
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Chocolate flavor.

291
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Yep.

292
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Well they had vanilla and other flavors.

293
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I really like the chocolate flavored ones.

294
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They were very nice.

295
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Yeah but now those eights that special tobacco you got the HS3.

296
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Oh HS3.

297
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Yeah.

298
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I can definitely taste the difference in all those.

299
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Oh yeah well that's a different kind of tobacco totally.

300
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So Al will occasionally roll cigarettes with my pipe tobacco.

301
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Okay.

302
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And you really have to dry it out to make it work in a cigarette.

303
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Yeah.

304
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How do you dry it out?

305
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You just.

306
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I just leave either the container open or just leave it next to the sun in a window

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area next to the sun.

308
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Oh okay.

309
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Just naturally dry it.

310
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That makes sense.

311
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Didn't know if it was like a kind of like a Martha Stewart like put your oven on 150

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and put it in there for two hours.

313
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Now you get a box ran you put a sheet over or the fruit drying method.

314
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I suppose you could put it in a dehumidifier or that's what they're called right the things

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that make beef jerky.

316
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Dehydrator.

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Dehydrator that's right.

318
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Yeah.

319
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Dehumidifiers once in my basement pumping out water all the time.

320
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Yes.

321
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Oh yeah.

322
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I modified a dehumidifier to make a machine that would cook oil out of bowling balls.

323
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All right so Mike made it about 16-17 minutes before mentioning bowling.

324
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That's right.

325
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I don't know if anyone had the over under on that for our listeners.

326
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Well I got a topic for him then on that.

327
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On bowling.

328
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No have you heard of that nine pin or duck bowling or.

329
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Yeah duck pin bowling.

330
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Yeah.

331
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Yep.

332
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Because apparently I found out my company makes the wood underneath the laminate on

333
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it.

334
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Oh really.

335
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Yeah.

336
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That's cool.

337
00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,080
Very cool.

338
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I would like to go duck pin bowling someday.

339
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That's like northeastern United States I think and parts of Canada.

340
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Do you need special lanes or what's what's duck bowling.

341
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Well I think one is a smaller ball.

342
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Use shorter fatter pins.

343
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And a shorter lane.

344
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And I think it's a shorter lane and a smaller ball and there's no holes in the ball.

345
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OK so it's like shot put for people that can't throw overhand.

346
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Something like that yeah.

347
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OK.

348
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It's like a little small pin ball.

349
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It's like ski ball but more advanced.

350
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See and I love me some ski ball.

351
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I think they have a five inch diameter ball.

352
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And how what's the weight on that then.

353
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Is it.

354
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Oh I have no idea.

355
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,840
It's got to be probably lighter than a regular bowling ball then.

356
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Got to be.

357
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It's got to be.

358
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You would think so.

359
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Yeah I'm assuming you're just throwing it with one hand.

360
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Right yeah you're throwing it with one hand and you're not.

361
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I mean there's no fingers in it so you're.

362
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You're just throwing it.

363
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I've seen it.

364
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I've watched duck pin matches on YouTube.

365
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I'm assuming the scoring is all the same and all that.

366
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There's three balls per frame in duck pin.

367
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All right.

368
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Yep.

369
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And then they modify the strike and spare system for what I understand.

370
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So.

371
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But you still want all the pins down right.

372
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Yes same goal.

373
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Same goal is to get all the pins down.

374
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I think the score is still 300.

375
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Yeah it'd be interesting to go and do it.

376
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So I just don't know where any.

377
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I guess the only place around here you could do it's probably down in the cities or something.

378
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I don't know if they have it in the metro or not.

379
00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:13,120
Well if it's not.

380
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Maybe they have any duck pin in.

381
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You know what if it's not here it doesn't it doesn't exist.

382
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I don't know we'd have to look because I feel like it's probably just like obscure enough

383
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that it would be here.

384
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:32,920
But then you know like we could do a Google search or something and it'd be like in some

385
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little town you know like on the Dakota border or something would be like hey we're the premier

386
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like North American duck pin bowling a bowling destination.

387
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,960
Oh it could go either way.

388
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You know like it's either in the big city here or it's like somewhere you never would

389
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think that it would be next to the world's largest ball of twine.

390
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Ellies in Mars.

391
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I am searching for duck pin bowling.

392
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,800
Bryant Lake bowling and theater.

393
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,240
Yeah I know they do.

394
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,320
Amalor is giving me bowling alleys in the metro.

395
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,200
Or is it also known as candle pin.

396
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,380
Woodrose duck pin bowling.

397
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Look at that.

398
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Where's that one Mike?

399
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That is in Michigan.

400
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Well it's not as far as Canada eh?

401
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,080
That's true.

402
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,080
That's true.

403
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,880
Atomic duck pin.

404
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,760
Where's that at?

405
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,560
Oh there we go.

406
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,760
That one's in Indiana.

407
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,160
Yeah that might be the closest one to us.

408
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Crazy.

409
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,960
Well we might have to do a nice Ashes road trip for season two.

410
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,440
Yeah that would be interesting.

411
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,680
That would be very interesting.

412
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,080
Yeah it looks like it's all east coast and the farthest west it made it was Michigan.

413
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,280
I think there's a couple in Minneapolis.

414
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,280
In Minneapolis?

415
00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,280
We'll have to look.

416
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,280
We can look later.

417
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,280
We don't have to do it on air.

418
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,680
This is great radio guys.

419
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,000
Everybody's on the edge of their seats while we frantically google.

420
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,880
Duck pin.

421
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,600
The only thing that came up on mine was how to perfect your duck face.

422
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,840
Oh jeez.

423
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,840
You know.

424
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:19,840
Thanks Obama.

425
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:25,240
I don't even know how that became a thing.

426
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:33,400
I don't know but I took some senior portraits for Dev's daughter and he was on the show

427
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:41,800
and we were out and doing all these portraits and for one of them she busted out the duck

428
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,160
face and so I called her out.

429
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,600
I said wow we almost made it through a whole photo shoot without duck face popping up.

430
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,720
And she's like I don't know why I did it.

431
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,760
I felt like I had to.

432
00:21:52,760 --> 00:22:00,680
So now that's the only one I'm going to edit up for her and send back to her.

433
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,460
We have a first ever on the show.

434
00:22:04,460 --> 00:22:07,560
My cigar went totally out when I was smoking it.

435
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,040
You're not smoking it enough because mine's still going strong.

436
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,040
So was Al's.

437
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,040
So was Al's.

438
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:20,200
Al you might want to teach Mike how to smoke a cigar quick.

439
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,200
Suck often.

440
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,760
That can be said for a lot of things in a lot of places.

441
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,760
Yep.

442
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:34,080
I don't know did it go out or did you lose your cherry.

443
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,080
It just went out.

444
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,080
I had a hard time relating it too.

445
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,080
Interesting.

446
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,400
There must be like a little hard spot in the middle of the cigar.

447
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,440
Is that a manufacturer or is this Brent?

448
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,440
Oh no.

449
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:51,600
I'm guessing that these cigars because they're so cheap don't have the best quality control.

450
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,960
Not that they're a bad smoke necessarily but they're not going to have the same level

451
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,280
of control over consistency.

452
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,280
I think Mike just hit the dark shark spot.

453
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,560
It's different in each one of these sticks but when you hit the dark shark.

454
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,560
Yeah.

455
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,560
Yes.

456
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,560
Oof.

457
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,800
I'll give it a little bit.

458
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,560
Now it's sour of course on a real light.

459
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,120
My nephew shot at a deer today.

460
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,040
Youth hunting is open right now for those who.

461
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,040
Clarification.

462
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,040
Clarification.

463
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,040
Quick quick.

464
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,160
So youth hunting is open right now during the recording of this show.

465
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,160
How old does it have to be?

466
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,160
I don't know what the number of ages.

467
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,160
Is it 12?

468
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,160
I thought it was 12.

469
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,160
Nah I think it's more like 8 or 9 now.

470
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,160
Oh is it?

471
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,160
They lowered the age.

472
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,160
Yeah it used to be 12.

473
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,160
Okay.

474
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:45,840
Back in my day we walked uphill to school both ways in blizzards and it was 12.

475
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,600
And mine's yearling around with my car.

476
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:56,560
It was 12 and there was no youth season.

477
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,800
Yeah.

478
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,520
Which apparently there is no.

479
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:07,880
Yeah I think they like pioneered or like piloted the youth season like just as I was aging

480
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,480
out of that.

481
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,400
Because I feel like my two younger brothers went youth hunting.

482
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,800
Okay.

483
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:17,800
I don't know.

484
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,800
I could be wrong.

485
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,960
I never did.

486
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,960
I never do.

487
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,000
Which is fine.

488
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,560
But now I only hunt two days a year anyway.

489
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,560
Deer hunt two days a year.

490
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,560
Yes yes.

491
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,560
Indeed.

492
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,360
Do you guys remember G4 TV?

493
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:34,360
Yup.

494
00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:36,960
You're not going to do them?

495
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,960
Yes.

496
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,960
You don't remember G4?

497
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,360
Tagging show, Olivia, Mon, X-Play.

498
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:45,080
It was like a video game.

499
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,080
Never.

500
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,080
Television.

501
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,080
We never had like TV.

502
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,080
Tagging show.

503
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,080
Sure.

504
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,080
I don't.

505
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,080
Well.

506
00:24:52,080 --> 00:25:01,600
I mean in high school we had like satellite but nobody in the family was really interested

507
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:02,600
in any of that stuff.

508
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,360
Like I'm the techie is still in my family.

509
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:06,360
Sure.

510
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:07,360
So.

511
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,840
I only watched Attack of the Show.

512
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,840
Okay.

513
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,280
I've heard of Attack of the Show so like at least that's familiar to me.

514
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,880
I don't think I've ever watched it.

515
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,880
Right.

516
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,880
Attack of the Show was on G4.

517
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,800
They just shut down forever.

518
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,480
They went off air and then they went onto YouTube.

519
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,120
Long story short is they couldn't make it on YouTube.

520
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:32,400
Well they had other problems too.

521
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,760
Yes they did.

522
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,680
I think it's hard to make it on YouTube without putting out a bunch of just absolute shit.

523
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,680
You know what I mean?

524
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,680
Right.

525
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,680
Yeah but they already had some other.

526
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:50,440
G4 already had a couple problems already when they went to YouTube.

527
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:58,680
Yeah one host basically do a woke meltdown.

528
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,680
The woke meltdown?

529
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,960
That's the only reason why I knew G4 went to YouTube.

530
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,960
Huh?

531
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,280
You say that again?

532
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,960
Oh I said somebody had a woke meltdown?

533
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,960
Yeah.

534
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,800
Like they were pro-woke or anti-woke?

535
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,880
Well she was basically going like oh because I'm not looking like this person or I'm not

536
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,280
looking like that person.

537
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:27,400
You don't value my opinions or because I don't look like Olivia Munn.

538
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:35,080
I constantly have to prove my credit and my gaming credit or stuff like that.

539
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,080
Yes.

540
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,080
But.

541
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:43,520
I feel like video games is a very tough arena to get into if you're a female and don't want

542
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,600
to show any cleavage.

543
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,200
And I'm not saying that women need to show cleavage to be taken seriously in the video

544
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:57,440
game realm but we had a whole episode about incels and I just feel like maybe that's just

545
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:04,160
a stereotype of video gamers but I feel like it's tough if you're trying to be taken seriously

546
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,040
as a female in video gaming.

547
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,640
Not that that's fair because anyone can video game.

548
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,640
Oh yeah.

549
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:16,840
And then also too like the basically culture has changed since G4 has been gone.

550
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:23,800
So we don't have to really go to them anymore to find like our video game reviews or get

551
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,800
our tech updates anymore.

552
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,360
Yeah because anyone can stream now right?

553
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:31,400
Like on Twitch anyone can be streaming the game.

554
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,400
Right.

555
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,400
Yep.

556
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,720
Like it's not like before the internet speeds we have now and the connected games that we

557
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,160
have now where they encourage you to stream.

558
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,160
Yeah.

559
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:53,360
Yeah the woman that had the meltdown she was an expert in e-sports which I have no idea

560
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,360
what style of video game that is.

561
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:58,480
I think it's any kind of you can have like your sports games.

562
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,440
Yeah like Starcraft or like FIFA right?

563
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,720
Or like yeah.

564
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,560
She was an expert in that and they had her reviewing games that were not related to that.

565
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:15,160
So she got some flack and then she freaked out which again it's got to be difficult for

566
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,680
a woman who's not selling sex to work in the video game industry.

567
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,800
I would guess you know.

568
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,880
I don't know that for a fact.

569
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,800
There's that one well and I think just selling sex in general it doesn't matter what your

570
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:37,240
gender is really but because that cyberpunk 2077 or whatever came out and their whole

571
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,520
thing was like you can characterize or you can customize your characters junk and you

572
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,640
can make them have like whatever size penis or labialypsy you want.

573
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,960
You know like that's like and I never played it and I never looked into it but that's all

574
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,960
that I heard about it.

575
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,400
You know like the buzz surrounding it.

576
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,400
So.

577
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:59,440
No I bought the game like when I did my character creation I'm like playing in front of one

578
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,040
of my brothers and it's like what the fuck?

579
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,720
Sorry if I can't curse on this or not.

580
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,720
Yeah you can.

581
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,720
You absolutely fucking literally can.

582
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,720
Well yeah it's like seeing that aspect and like do your character want to have underwear

583
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,320
or not like what?

584
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,640
I just want to play a game man.

585
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,120
I don't want to make wardrobe choices.

586
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,480
And I was like okay well guess I'm definitely not playing this in front of my six year old

587
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,480
son.

588
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,960
Guess I'm definitely not wearing underwear in this game.

589
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Yep.

590
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,120
Well it's funny because my buddy got that.

591
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,120
We talked about Luke before and Mike's met Luke and we watched some shitty movies with

592
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,440
Luke but he played that game and I was like how big did you make your character's dick

593
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,440
man?

594
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,000
And he goes you know I always play women because I don't want to be looking at a dude the whole

595
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,040
time I'm playing.

596
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,040
Yeah.

597
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,880
And I'm like fair enough.

598
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,440
In Skyrim I always play as a woman too.

599
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,440
Always.

600
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,760
But that's for practical reasons.

601
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,680
Do you have the nudie mod where everybody's naked in Skyrim?

602
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,960
I had it on Oblivion but I don't have it for Skyrim.

603
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,960
I did.

604
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,200
I had the nudie mod and I had the skinning mod.

605
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:19,480
So when you took hides off of animals it would skin them out.

606
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,320
Yep yep.

607
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,320
Good times.

608
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,800
Never gone to that part of video games.

609
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:40,800
We've been playing We Need to Go Deeper recently online and it's like this 2D art and it's

610
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,760
really bonkers like animation and stuff but you're in a sub and you have to go deeper

611
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,240
lo and behold.

612
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,760
But that's pretty fun because you've got like some in sub bits and everybody man's a different

613
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,760
section of the sub.

614
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,760
You know you've got your I don't know they call it like a captain like the sub captain

615
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,840
or pilot and you've got engineering and gunners and then you get like these caves and you

616
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:11,200
go in and you can fight all these mobs in these caves and get gold and you can buy more

617
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,240
and more ridiculous outfits for your character.

618
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:20,920
But it's all like 2D but it's very like weird and kind of like it's not Thulu but it's kind

619
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,160
of like a weird mythology that they've built around this game.

620
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,160
So interesting.

621
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,160
I've never heard of it.

622
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,560
I thought it was like a double untantra there.

623
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,560
No it's super.

624
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,760
Well that's what I scream in the bedroom every night but uh.

625
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,360
Uh oh.

626
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,480
Hold on I'm being told in my earpiece here.

627
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,200
Yeah okay.

628
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:52,600
Nope I won't be continuing that train of thought.

629
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,200
But it's super it's like a super cheap game like we got it on sale like three of us are

630
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,760
playing it now and you can you can have up to four people in a sub and then you can get

631
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,960
like bots and like mercenaries and things so it's pretty fun.

632
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,880
It sounds pretty fun.

633
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,640
I play popslots for no reason.

634
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,240
Well that's not true there is a reason.

635
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,520
There's always a reason.

636
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,120
There's always a reason yeah.

637
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,560
You can collect points and redeem them if you go to Vegas that's what I want.

638
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,560
And Mike loves points.

639
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,440
Yes I love points.

640
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,840
I actually like Vegas.

641
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,440
Have you been you've been to Vegas?

642
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,200
Yeah I've been a couple times.

643
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Okay I went once and I was 18.

644
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,880
So they and but it was a family trip right so it's not like we were going to the see

645
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,760
the strippers and ship but when we walked through like the casinos they were like you

646
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,400
stay on this path and you don't like look outside of the path.

647
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,880
Like they were very adamant that an 18 year old could not.

648
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,920
Because 21 is the age for gambling there.

649
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,920
Yes.

650
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,080
So I'd like to go back.

651
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,880
I don't really like gambling.

652
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:06,120
I did almost get into a fight at a blackjack table at Treasure Island south of the cities

653
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,120
here.

654
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,600
I think it's south of the cities isn't it?

655
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,640
Yeah yeah it's by the Duke plant.

656
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:17,560
I almost saw the cities around like Valley Fair.

657
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:23,360
Okay because I this guy like called me out to the parking lot to go like have a fight

658
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,000
and I guess that would have been my opportunity Mike and a good thing to talk about on our

659
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,240
fight episode.

660
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,120
But I declined because I even though I was a little intoxicated I was nowhere near as

661
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,720
intoxicated as this other person and we were at like the dollar table or something like

662
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,800
it was like the cheapest table in the casino and I came with I came with 20 bucks and I

663
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:52,800
left with 40 because I said if I double my money I'm out and I'm done playing and this

664
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:58,000
guy stumbled out it was like two or three in the morning and this guy stumbled out and

665
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,480
of the high roller table so he you know lost his wad there and then he comes and sits down

666
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:09,840
and tries to tell all of us how to play a blackjack as if he knows.

667
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:18,360
And I wasn't playing very well because in the car ride down I was asking my brother

668
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,960
like okay so what like what's like the inside scoop on this blackjack stuff and he's like

669
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:30,640
okay well and so what I thought he said was always hit on 16 but what he actually said

670
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,800
was don't hit on 16.

671
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:40,900
So I was constantly hitting on 16 which ended up working out for me but it was driving this

672
00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:46,120
guy bananas because he was like when you take that card you're stealing from the rest of

673
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,140
us at the table and it's us versus the dealer and I'm like dude it's me versus the dealer

674
00:34:50,140 --> 00:34:55,360
and you can you all can fuck off and you know but he had this whole thing like you don't

675
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,680
want to take a good card from somebody else and I'm like I didn't see you fronting some

676
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,880
of my money on this table bro.

677
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,840
But my brother was at the other side of the table and one of the guys next to him was

678
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,760
like dude if your brother goes out to the parking lot with that guy I totally got his

679
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,920
back because this guy was an asshole to everybody at the at the table and everybody at our table

680
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,200
it's the dollar table or like the five dollar whatever the cheapest table is you know and

681
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,640
like we're all just there to have fun and try to win like ten bucks you know.

682
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,280
Yeah you're not there to lose your ass you're there to drink and yeah we're there to drink

683
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:33,120
and entertain you know we're not there to like I got to make the mortgage you know like.

684
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,200
Yeah your name's not getting put on the side on the side of the wall with your epic win.

685
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,200
Yeah.

686
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,720
This dude hit on a 16 like a moron but it worked out for him that's the wall I'd be

687
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:43,720
on.

688
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:44,720
Right.

689
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:51,720
I've only played blackjack a handful of times and always in like Boomtown shithole bars.

690
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:54,000
Yeah but drunk oil trash.

691
00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:00,720
I've heard that I've heard that blackjack you have the best odds like against the house.

692
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:05,600
Maybe not necessarily good odds but like better odds than other card games.

693
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,440
Well I can control your hand a lot better.

694
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,960
I would assume.

695
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,600
Well you don't you have it's better odds than a slot machine.

696
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,800
Yeah.

697
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,560
My brother was a blackjack dealer and when I turned 18 he had a conversation with me

698
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,720
because I was going to go to the casino for 18th birthday right.

699
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:28,720
OK yeah.

700
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:36,920
And he said Michael when you go to the casino and you bring your money go to the table remember

701
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:44,680
that the person that you're playing against plays cards 40 hours a week 52 weeks a year

702
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,840
for years on end.

703
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,440
So you have luck trying to beat them consistently.

704
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,480
Their job is this.

705
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,480
Yes.

706
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,200
Their job is to not not lose.

707
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Their job is to not lose to you and to manipulate you to try to make you lose.

708
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Yeah.

709
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,600
But like they have their own kind of like parameters for the dealer.

710
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:13,760
Right like the dealer has to hit on certain numbers and doesn't hit on other numbers.

711
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,080
They can't go above 17 or something I think.

712
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:22,600
I think once they hit 17 they have to stop or something like that.

713
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,720
I'm not sure I'm not much of a gambler.

714
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:25,960
Yeah me either.

715
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,760
But I mean I think like as long as you know what their rules are and kind of the basics

716
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,760
of the game and if you're not absolutely inebriated and like full of yourself you could just play

717
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,120
cautiously and kind of like stay pretty even.

718
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,120
You know.

719
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,120
Yes.

720
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Or make some money you know.

721
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,640
Not huge amounts because you know you make a huge amount once at a casino.

722
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,640
I mean that's what they want you to do but it's only that one time and then you're hooked

723
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,640
you know.

724
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,920
And then you go back and you blow it all.

725
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,920
Yep.

726
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,280
It's like the e-tap machine or pull tabs.

727
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,760
They want you to put that money back in the box.

728
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,160
I've never played pull tabs.

729
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,160
Really?

730
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:10,880
I don't know maybe once or twice was like for me there's not much thought into it.

731
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,880
No there's no thought it's all random luck.

732
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:19,680
And I know that there's more chances of losing by a significant margin.

733
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,520
But the whole thought is basically how many winners are still available and how much is

734
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,160
left in the box.

735
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,160
Right.

736
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,400
And they got people playing.

737
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,440
Somebody said I heard like if you see one person constantly playing in one box you don't

738
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,040
really I think it's so you don't want to go in their same box or something.

739
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,240
It's considered rude by gamblers.

740
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:41,240
Yes.

741
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:45,920
Gamblers get very upset when other people win when they are losing.

742
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,920
Yeah.

743
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,640
Especially if you're new to it and you're not following the whatever the fake subculture

744
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,080
protocol they've invented for their little whatever game it is they're playing you know

745
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,760
whether it be pull tabs or blackjack or even slot machines you know it's like the people

746
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,120
that go and wait for you to stand up from a slot machine like the vultures or whatever.

747
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,160
It's going to hit big now.

748
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,160
Yeah.

749
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,160
Yeah.

750
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,040
I've only gambled a handful of times.

751
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,040
So when I was in Vegas the last time I was 21 so I could gamble.

752
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:22,520
And every day I went to Caesars Palace and pulled the big one dollar coin machine that

753
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,280
they have you have to like wait in line to go and do.

754
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,280
And that was the only gambling I did the whole time.

755
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,040
And how did you make out.

756
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,000
I lost every dollar I put in there.

757
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:43,280
No because yeah my mom finally went last April and I think she basically almost broke even

758
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,520
and she wasn't even really trying to play.

759
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,520
Sure.

760
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,040
She was just like okay well I'm waiting for a couple of friends of hers to get done with

761
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,440
their gambling or whatever.

762
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:58,040
So she puts a couple of bucks in a slot and she said she basically counting her price

763
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,440
for the trip and all that she broke even almost.

764
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,440
Oh nice.

765
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,000
That's pretty good.

766
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,440
I've only gambled that one time.

767
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,680
Well we went to I don't know we went to one of the other ones kind of here in the cities

768
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:18,040
and played a couple of slot machines but I don't really I mean that's gambling yes but

769
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,760
I went with like five dollars so I don't really count it as gambling because it's just kind

770
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,240
of like I'm going to put five dollars here and see if something spits out.

771
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:31,840
But when I went to the blackjack I was like I'm going to just view this as entertainment.

772
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:38,960
I could I could spend this 20 bucks going to a movie or I could spend it here playing

773
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,160
blackjack and so I was like I was and then I you know set in my mind I'm like if I double

774
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,600
the money even though it's only 40 bucks right then I'm going to be done.

775
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,640
So I'm not going to get greedy and I'm not going to sit here all night even though I

776
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,840
think we left around three or four in the morning but I was the younger man back then.

777
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,840
Right.

778
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:03,960
Oh have you tried on board games and all this have you tried going to like in the cities

779
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,680
like the place called the source or fantasy flight.

780
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:13,560
Yeah I've been to both of them fantasy flight rebranded in the world's dumbest naming convention

781
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,280
outside of Zorbas.

782
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,360
And so for those of you don't know Zorbas is a they have a location in Brainerd they

783
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,960
have a location in Detroit Lakes they have a location somewhere else.

784
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:34,280
I absolutely hate their menus and their billboards because they change all of the S's and Z's

785
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:41,640
and it makes me like rageful like just beyond belief I don't understand why it like gets

786
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:46,280
at me so bad but I just I absolutely hate that.

787
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:54,880
And so following that fantasy flight gaming center rebranded to game center with a Z of

788
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,280
all things game center.

789
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,280
And it's like the actual fuckity fuck are you doing.

790
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,400
But it's a great place to go they've got tables they've got tables in the back that people

791
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,060
go and they bring their miniatures in and they do like painting parties.

792
00:42:11,060 --> 00:42:17,720
They have a they have a little like grill kitchen thing I would never eat anything from

793
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:23,160
there but I've seen other people eat things from there and I'm like thank God I sleeve

794
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,720
my cards with your fucking barbecued chicken finger.

795
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:27,720
You know.

796
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:28,720
Well it's like I don't.

797
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:32,320
No because I never ate that stuff they're both like.

798
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:37,120
But they have beer on tap so like I get the beer for sure.

799
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,180
The source is good I've never played there but they've got a good selection of games

800
00:42:40,180 --> 00:42:42,520
and fairly decent prices.

801
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:50,320
I like down here in the cities my buddy and I we usually play at lodestone which is in

802
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:55,320
kind of St. Louis Park Minnetonka ish area and they've got huge tables and they've got

803
00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:01,360
a little like coffee coffee bar which is nice and they've got you know library to play at

804
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,520
they don't have so many games for sale because it's more of like a gaming area than a coffee

805
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,640
shop with a game.

806
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:15,040
Yeah and then I really like all systems go because they'll put you you can preorder stuff

807
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:22,960
for them and they only charge you like the MSRP so they have no extra shipping and stuff.

808
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:29,600
But then there's this place in Wisconsin called Boardlandia and they back a lot of kickstarters

809
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:37,580
and you can get the Kickstarter games from them for the retailers price without and then

810
00:43:37,580 --> 00:43:41,080
you pay a little extra shipping or whatever but you don't have to pay so like it works

811
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,520
out to being a pretty significant savings.

812
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,400
All right.

813
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:54,640
All of these stores are not a sponsor by the way but they could be.

814
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,020
Not a sponsor not a sponsor.

815
00:43:57,020 --> 00:44:00,480
So I've got about an inch and a half left of this.

816
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,480
I have about the same.

817
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,080
Let's do a stick check stick check everyone whip them out.

818
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,080
Stick check.

819
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,760
Al's about halfway he's got maybe three inches left.

820
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,680
Okay do we have any additional thoughts?

821
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,800
I know we haven't usually when we don't talk about a cigar it's a more enjoyable cigar.

822
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,560
Yeah typically yeah this is very bland in my opinion.

823
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,120
I don't really get a lot of flavor out of it I'm not gonna lie.

824
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:36,000
Yeah so the first time I smoked it I was underwhelmed drastically until like the second half.

825
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Okay.

826
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,320
And then I felt like the second half was a little bit better.

827
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:45,120
It wasn't it still wasn't like phenomenal and it wasn't something that I'd be like hey

828
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:51,160
you really got to get one but for what we're doing tonight and when I smoked the first

829
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,800
one you're just shooting the shit.

830
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,760
But on the second smoking like the first part was was I noticed it was a lot sweeter than

831
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,620
I remembered even from just a week ago and and maybe it's because of the slight variations

832
00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:11,280
you know it's not going to be as as quality controlled perhaps as you alluded to Mike.

833
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:22,000
But I came away from my first smoke very favorable towards the cigar and the second smoke is

834
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,000
I don't know kind of reinforcing it like it's not it's not you know if you're like hey what's

835
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:31,160
the greatest cigar you've ever smoked this is not even going to be close to the list

836
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:38,240
but for a cheap cigar I mean it's cheaper than the bin maduros that we had and I'd

837
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:44,040
read this and I'd really smoke this then I agree Duro without tequila.

838
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,040
I agree.

839
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,160
I'd be curious to try these tequila cigar.

840
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,120
I was thinking the same thing but this would be a good one for tequila.

841
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,920
Yeah I think this isn't bad.

842
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,160
It's definitely it's not a gas station.

843
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,360
No I'd say it's decent.

844
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,360
It's decent.

845
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,360
It's decent.

846
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,480
The price it's value for money.

847
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,880
You get 20 of them for a dollar or two dollars a stick.

848
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,880
Like right.

849
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,880
Done.

850
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,880
Done deal all day long.

851
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:15,800
Yes value for money wise it's definitely worth it so far.

852
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,280
But I'm at I'm going to guess it's going to stay fairly consistent.

853
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,000
Yeah I mean it's not one we're going to be sitting here going like oh we should get the

854
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,000
roach clip out but.

855
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,640
No no no no this is not this is not going on the all time great list.

856
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,480
No but it's not a bad stick.

857
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:37,800
You know I mean it's you know it's it's inoffensive all the way through pretty much and it's not

858
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,220
as dark as it would lead you to believe.

859
00:46:40,220 --> 00:46:44,120
So it appeals to a lot more people that maybe don't smoke as many cigars or don't like the

860
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,120
really dark stuff.

861
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,840
Right now I don't have a problem with it that much.

862
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:49,840
Right.

863
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,920
Do you can you tell the difference between this and the moon trance.

864
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,760
I don't going to tell you which one was the moon trance that you gave me.

865
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:07,680
Well so for everybody including that blast for me he tried to show trance and also a

866
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:14,040
La Gloria Cubana series are which are Nate and I have both had him on the show and we

867
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,160
must like he must be single.

868
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,680
Are you trying to woo him or no we were just we were just you know I'm talking to Sarah

869
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,800
about that part.

870
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,800
But Al couldn't he couldn't tell the difference between the two.

871
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,800
OK.

872
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,760
Well these are those two how far apart.

873
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,760
All right.

874
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,640
They were a couple I mean it was a couple days or weeks apart.

875
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,360
It wasn't like the same night or anything.

876
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,480
But I was like you can't taste the bourbon vanilla.

877
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,480
He's like no.

878
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Again that's the problem with me and us small races smokers like your taste buds go down.

879
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,200
Yeah.

880
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,240
So note to the children listening.

881
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:56,840
Like if you don't know if you.

882
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,840
Yeah.

883
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,840
Anything ever.

884
00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,840
Yeah.

885
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:05,680
But like I mean honestly though if you don't smoke a lot of cigars.

886
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,680
How would you know.

887
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,000
I mean it's almost the same as like wine or bourbon or meatloaf.

888
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,080
Like if you don't consume it a lot how would you know.

889
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:21,840
Like how could I go back and say hey ma your meatloaf is has these notes to it versus this

890
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,100
other person's meatloaf.

891
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:25,860
You know like how would you know if you don't do a whole lot of it.

892
00:48:25,860 --> 00:48:27,720
So it's not.

893
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:32,680
I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility or normalcy.

894
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,280
You don't have to know all these things about cigars to just enjoy smoking a cigar.

895
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,280
Right.

896
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,640
Well like if he gets me hooked on it I'll be teaching him some stuff then.

897
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,640
Won't be the first time.

898
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,640
Right.

899
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,640
No it wouldn't.

900
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,440
But what I guess what I was more getting at is that something like this if you had it

901
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,520
in your home humidor and you were going to have a little smoke session with your buddy.

902
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,720
If they're not a cigar smoker something like this would be a great stick for them to have.

903
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:01,080
It's perfectly adequate.

904
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,080
It's a good cigar.

905
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,080
Smoking nice right.

906
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,080
Yeah.

907
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,160
And it'd be fine for you to smoke with them.

908
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,160
You know.

909
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,160
Yeah.

910
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,160
Oh yeah.

911
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,160
This would be totally fine.

912
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,160
I mean sometimes that's it too.

913
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,640
It's like oh yeah here you take the cheap stick and I'll smoke this really fancy stick.

914
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,040
You know like you don't want to do that to your buddy either.

915
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,040
No no.

916
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,720
You're not smoking the same thing I'm smoking.

917
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:22,600
Like what's wrong with this one.

918
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,600
Right.

919
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:28,160
What do you lace it with.

920
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,480
But yeah it's perfectly perfectly adequate.

921
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,440
Yeah I think I think though you're right and I was thinking this and I didn't want to say

922
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:42,760
it at the at the start of the show but I was I too was dreaming and salivating about making

923
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,720
this into a tequila cigar.

924
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:51,600
I knew it looking at him.

925
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:57,280
I had an idea of what I was about to entertain based on the price.

926
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,280
Yeah.

927
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,840
But you know I guess I was pleasantly surprised.

928
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,440
It's better than those bin maduros.

929
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:11,920
Based on the price because this is about half the price of those bin maduros.

930
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,920
Or less I don't know.

931
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:19,680
I mean I guess it depends on when you catch it on sale or not but you know I honestly

932
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,400
would rather smoke this than the bin maduro you know just plain.

933
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,400
So right.

934
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:32,160
And I just got for those who don't know I just made a big order.

935
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:41,440
But I just got some Rocky Patel Edge Fuma Corojos I want to say for less than 40 bucks

936
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,840
for 20.

937
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,840
So you can get good deals on something like that and we really like those Fumas.

938
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,840
We do.

939
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:54,320
We did not have the Corojo I think we had the Maduro and the Connecticut.

940
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,320
Yeah.

941
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,320
Yeah.

942
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,320
We didn't do the Corojo.

943
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,320
Yeah.

944
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,080
But yeah you can get good deals on something like that and that's extremely high quality

945
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,080
I think.

946
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,080
I like it.

947
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:09,760
And especially now that it's getting towards the holidays a lot of places are having their

948
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,760
discounts and sales.

949
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,320
Yeah tis the season.

950
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,360
Tis the season and if any one of them are sponsors I'd happily name drop them now but

951
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,000
I shall not.

952
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,000
Yes.

953
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,480
There we go.

954
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,560
There we go.

955
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,560
Goodness gracious me.

956
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,560
Goodness gracious me.

957
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:37,240
Typically we talk about politics but I have been purposefully avoiding the news the last

958
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:38,240
couple weeks.

959
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:44,880
And you sound all the more calmer for it Mike.

960
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:51,000
I'm not a doctor but I can tell your blood pressure is way down.

961
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:57,520
I gotta do something you know.

962
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,240
It is futile all that.

963
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:05,640
So your lovely wife was over at my house last night.

964
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,440
I heard and I saw pictures of the lovely nail job.

965
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,440
Yes.

966
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,960
Is that what they call it?

967
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:13,960
Manicure?

968
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:14,960
Yeah.

969
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,280
A nail job I think is what they call it.

970
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,280
Okay.

971
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,280
Yeah.

972
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,280
Nail massage.

973
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,400
Yes.

974
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,280
And your wife brought me a gift.

975
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,280
Did you know that?

976
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,280
No.

977
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,280
Oh yes I did.

978
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,280
I did.

979
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,280
Okay you did.

980
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,280
Okay.

981
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,800
I'm gonna send you a picture and make you jealous.

982
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:36,800
Yeah.

983
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,800
Hold on.

984
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:44,600
I need to go on mute for a minute.

985
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,700
But yeah it's awesome.

986
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:52,520
She got me a nice outdoor ashtray from Tobacco Grove I think is what she said.

987
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:53,520
Nice.

988
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,520
Yeah it's awesome.

989
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:55,520
I like it.

990
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,320
That's where I got mine.

991
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,880
My big copper looking one.

992
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,560
Yep.

993
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,120
Yeah yours is pretty cool looking too.

994
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,120
For sure.

995
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,120
For sure.

996
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:13,880
I'm about done with my cigar so I think that is...

997
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,560
I have like an inch and a quarter left.

998
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:19,560
But it's out.

999
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,560
Again.

1000
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,560
It's out again.

1001
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:22,560
Second time out.

1002
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,320
And I'm a puffer as you mentioned many times.

1003
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:34,360
So I'm thinking that the consistency on this particular one was less than what I would

1004
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,920
expect from a $10 cigar for sure.

1005
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,760
But it's not a $10 cigar it's a $1.50 cigar.

1006
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,280
For that it was good.

1007
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,360
And I've had two of them and neither of mine have gone out and Al's hasn't gone out.

1008
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:49,360
Nope.

1009
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,360
No Al's still puffing away.

1010
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,600
And he's letting his sit too.

1011
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,880
Let's just hope yours is the fluke then maybe.

1012
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Yeah I don't know.

1013
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,600
Could be.

1014
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,600
Well that was made on a Friday.

1015
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,600
Made on a Friday.

1016
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:03,600
Yep.

1017
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,160
No.

1018
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:14,280
I did hear that Ford is going to be investigated because of all their vehicle recalls.

1019
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,280
Oh.

1020
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,560
Which is interesting.

1021
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,720
As a Ford driver.

1022
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:24,240
But it's going to be the 2021 Broncos I think.

1023
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:25,240
Okay.

1024
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:27,880
That was the big reissue of the Bronco wasn't it?

1025
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:28,880
Yes.

1026
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,880
Yep.

1027
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,880
Big push.

1028
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,800
And they've been having engine issues I guess.

1029
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,360
Which is unfortunate for anybody who bought a new Bronco obviously.

1030
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,360
Oh did they?

1031
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:44,520
I also hear like they're going to stop retail sit.

1032
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,040
Car dealerships.

1033
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,040
I didn't hear that.

1034
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,040
Okay.

1035
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,600
I've heard a lot of them have kind of been toying with the idea of not having the dealerships

1036
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,560
and moving everything to kind of like an online, you know you customize your car online.

1037
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,920
They build it and ship it to you.

1038
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,360
I don't know if that was Ford or if that was just kind of in general like a couple different

1039
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,680
car dealers were kind of like hey we could cut out the car dealerships and just make

1040
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,040
more money.

1041
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,560
Tesla wanted to do that and they were blocked from doing it by the dealerships.

1042
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:16,560
Okay.

1043
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,560
I think it was the other way around.

1044
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,520
They couldn't sell their cars.

1045
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:26,160
Well Tesla wanted to sell them direct and the dealership system of course paid off bribes

1046
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,160
to politicians.

1047
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,160
Or is there a cut?

1048
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,160
Right.

1049
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,640
Which is fine.

1050
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,600
I don't know if I could buy a vehicle without driving it first.

1051
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,400
Well that's not true because Sarah bought a vehicle in the spring and we never drove

1052
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,100
it.

1053
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:47,640
I could probably buy one without driving it but I'd have to sit in it before buying it.

1054
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:48,640
Right.

1055
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:49,640
Because I'm tall.

1056
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:50,640
Right.

1057
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,160
Well we knew what the car was.

1058
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,480
We had driven cars like it.

1059
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,680
We just hadn't driven a specific vehicle.

1060
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,520
Yeah.

1061
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,680
My brother's doing that right now.

1062
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,120
Bought one without test driving it or anything.

1063
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,120
Really?

1064
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,120
Yeah.

1065
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,280
Apparently from what I was hearing he bought himself his Maverick.

1066
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,280
Yeah.

1067
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,280
I know.

1068
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,280
My head's shaking too.

1069
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,440
Is he going to sell his other two vehicles that he has car payments on?

1070
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,640
Well it's a car payment and a lease.

1071
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,640
Okay.

1072
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,640
Great.

1073
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:27,640
Yeah.

1074
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:28,640
Yeah.

1075
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:35,720
This is not an economics podcast but word to the wise, if you have two vehicle payments,

1076
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:37,960
don't order a third vehicle.

1077
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,760
Oh my God.

1078
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,600
I guess it must be a lot of money.

1079
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,600
My input is they-

1080
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,280
It only makes a little bit less to me.

1081
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,280
Go ahead, Nate.

1082
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,680
Oh, I don't know much about cars.

1083
00:56:53,680 --> 00:57:03,520
But my input is drive the old trusty rusty 2004 Honda Civic and ride it till it dies.

1084
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,640
Yeah.

1085
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:05,640
That's all.

1086
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,600
The jury in my vehicle's gone.

1087
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,600
Yeah.

1088
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,600
Yeah.

1089
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,400
You got a- What was that for 50 bucks?

1090
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,400
150.

1091
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,000
What was the Volkswagen?

1092
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,000
Oh, it was 150.

1093
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,000
Yeah.

1094
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,000
It wasn't a Volkswagen.

1095
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,000
I think it was a Ford.

1096
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,000
What's it a Ford?

1097
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,000
I know you drove it for a long time.

1098
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,720
No, I had it for basically a year and a half.

1099
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,400
That's a long time for 150 bucks.

1100
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,400
Yeah.

1101
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,120
A lot longer than those Vegas hookers, I'll tell you that.

1102
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,120
Yeah.

1103
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,120
All right.

1104
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:36,120
150 bucks.

1105
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,120
That's very reasonable really.

1106
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,120
Yeah.

1107
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,960
But then eventually what killed it, it's like it got a hole in its piston.

1108
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,000
Probably from the Vegas hooker.

1109
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,000
Yeah.

1110
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,000
Vegas hooker.

1111
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Yeah.

1112
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,000
Then my dad's like, yep, it's shot.

1113
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000
Get a new one.

1114
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,000
All right.

1115
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,000
Next day, got myself a Volkswagen Jetta.

1116
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,000
Okay.

1117
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,000
That's when you got the Jetta.

1118
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,000
Yeah.

1119
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,000
Cool.

1120
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:03,000
That lasted me until the training went out.

1121
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,000
I'm not going to say anything.

1122
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,000
No comment.

1123
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,000
No comment.

1124
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,120
We've talked about that on this show before.

1125
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,120
We're not talking about it again.

1126
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,000
We've talked about it not on the show.

1127
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,000
Well intoxicated.

1128
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:22,560
And that conversation is sealed in the vaults.

1129
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,920
Yes it is.

1130
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,840
So final thoughts on the cigar since Al's probably getting pretty close.

1131
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:31,840
Yeah.

1132
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:32,840
Overall it's decent.

1133
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:33,840
I would say.

1134
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,840
Yeah.

1135
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:40,280
I would say value for money wise, it's a winner.

1136
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,800
If I was at a lounge, I don't know if I'd get one.

1137
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:47,080
To me it's like if you're a newbie, it actually makes you feel like you're having a decent

1138
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,080
cigar.

1139
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,080
Right.

1140
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,920
It's not like one of those thin, like, thinny ones with the caps on the ends.

1141
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,920
Yeah.

1142
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:55,920
It's like a swisher.

1143
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:56,920
Yeah.

1144
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:03,200
Well it's nice I think too because if you want to have a lot of cigars that you know

1145
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,960
are like decent and you can just go out and smoke, like great.

1146
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,640
You can buy 20 of them for like 24 bucks, you know, on sale.

1147
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,040
Right.

1148
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,280
It's a great way to just beef up your stash, your supply.

1149
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,280
And they're not, they're decent.

1150
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,480
You can, you know, mow the lawn with them.

1151
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,600
You can have a drink and have some conversation with them.

1152
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,880
You can pass them out to some buddies.

1153
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,680
I think it's all around.

1154
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,240
It's a winner, you know, like.

1155
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,240
Oh yeah.

1156
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,240
Absolutely.

1157
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:39,160
I think it's great as a, I don't want to call it a filler, but it's like a yard gar.

1158
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,160
Yeah.

1159
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,880
You know, it's a perfect one just to light up and go out to the shop and dink around

1160
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,640
for half an hour or an hour.

1161
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:47,640
Yeah.

1162
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,560
When you want something, you don't want to put a whole lot of thought into, man, I need

1163
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,040
to savor every puff of this one.

1164
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,040
You know.

1165
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,040
Right.

1166
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,040
Yeah.

1167
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,240
You're not, you're not pretending to be in some novel.

1168
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:00,240
Yes.

1169
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,240
Whatever.

1170
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,240
Cool.

1171
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,040
I think that, uh, that about wraps it up folks.

1172
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,040
That wraps it up.

1173
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,920
It was a nice meeting you, Al.

1174
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,000
Thanks for joining the podcast here and we'll have to play some board games in the future.

1175
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,560
Hey, whenever we're at Mike's on during the weekend.

1176
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,560
Yep.

1177
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,560
All right, everybody be safe.

1178
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,360
Have fun.

1179
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,360
Thanks for listening.

1180
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:33,880
I hope you guys have a good one.