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Welcome to Nice Ashes, this is Mike.

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And I'm Nate.

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What are we smoking today, Nate?

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We are doing the nub habano, the 5 inch.

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So it's about a full inch longer than the rest of their nubs.

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Yes, yes, and last episode we did the 4 inch nub and I think that we smoked it too fast

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because I let it sit and I smoked a little bit more and Nate and I were talking about

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this before the show and it did sweeten up again until about an inch left of the cigar.

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So we'll see what we do with this one.

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So it's a race, here we go.

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Well then we can see if the added inch changes anything about the overall smoke.

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Sure.

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Sooner not pleasant enough.

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Yeah.

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We should be disappointed to know one.

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Yeah, kind of like how I remember from last episode.

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Right.

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What are we going to talk about today?

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Oh I was going to say, and you said just puff down on this thing right?

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Just like in those cartoons you remember watching like the old Looney Tunes when a character

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would smoke a cigar and they'd smoke it all in one puff.

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So they'd have a full cigar length of ash that would then fall to the ground with perfect

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comedic timing.

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Yes.

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Well I thought we'd talk about visitors.

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Visitors, that's an interesting way to put it.

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Well visitors from outer space.

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Aliens or extraterrestrials.

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For those depending on how much research you've done into them.

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I've not done a whole lot of research into aliens.

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What about you Mike?

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I read Bob Lazar's book and I've listened to many, many podcasts about aliens.

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Okay so this will be a good topic then for us to talk about.

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Did you listen to the Joe Rogan episode with Bob Lazar?

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Nope, I don't know who Bob Lazar is.

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But I've consumed some other alien media of late so I figured it would be a good thing

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and I'm glad that we both don't, and maybe you've heard of, I'm going to talk about Stephen

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Greer.

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I don't know who that is.

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Okay well then this will be perfect because I kind of wanted to look at this whole alien

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thing and so it's good that we don't have the same people that we've listened to.

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But I think maybe we should start out with, I don't know, do you think we should start

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out with, I think we're going to have to.

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I think we're going to have to start out with whether you or I, what each of our personal

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thoughts are on the existence of aliens in general and then we can probably dive into

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if we think aliens have ever visited humans.

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Okay, because that's how I was going to break it apart.

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I think that it's very likely that alien life exists.

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I don't know if that alien life is advanced enough to leave their planet and I have no

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idea if alien life has visited our planet.

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I think that a lot of the alien stuff that we get is just as if not more likely to be

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misinformation by the government.

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Yeah, and we'll get into some of that kind of stuff a little bit later, but I too, given

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how vast the universe is, believe that there's probably life out there, whether that life

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isn't intelligent like we are or not.

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I mean, there's different levels of intelligence and statistically speaking, as we rank intelligence,

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we're the most intelligent on the planet.

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It doesn't mean everybody, your neighbor may or may not be, but we have complex thoughts

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and we can enunciate and communicate and there's some other animals that are entering the Stone

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Age now.

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If you heard about that, the chimpanzees, I think, have entered the Stone Age.

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I heard that.

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Very particular groups that are with humans.

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Close contact with humans.

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The other thing is, have they visited humans?

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I don't know.

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I guess I would say probably not or if they have, probably not recently, not since we've

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invented radar and stuff.

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I don't know.

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But the thing is, is space is so big that anybody looking back from a habitable planet

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or potentially habitable planet, and if they're looking at Earth, they're seeing dinosaurs

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walking on the face of the planet because the light hasn't got there from us yet.

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So they don't know that we're an advanced civilization.

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They think we're a bunch of dinosaurs walking around because that's just how that distance

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works.

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Even though light is super fast, that's how that distance works is they're not seeing

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us as we are today.

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So for them to say, hey, there's dinosaurs there, why don't we get in our spaceship

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and fly for a few million years or whatever.

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Who knows how fast they can travel?

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I mean, we can use our imagination to imagine how they could fly faster than the speed of

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light, and that's how it would have to work.

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I don't know if there's any strong evidence to show that you can fold space like you can

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in sci-fi.

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It'd be wonderful if we could.

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There's lots of hypotheses, theories out there of how to get places quicker than eons.

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But then also it's like, well, can they look faster than light too?

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Because they would have to also have like a telescope that would be able to look at

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the light that we're emitting right now, not the light that we emitted millions of years

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ago.

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Because otherwise they would still see dinosaurs even if they could get here and the dinosaurs

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would be gone.

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So it gets really kind of mind boggling and crazy when you start thinking about the distances

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in space.

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Yes, it is.

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It's even more mind boggling to know that the pyramids were landing sites for alien

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spacecraft.

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Actually, you know what?

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I just found out that aliens have visited us because my butthole just tingled.

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So I think it's my time soon.

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Avenge me.

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There's a lot of alien abduction stories and they all sound very similar.

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That does not necessarily mean that it's aliens doing it or that it's real.

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I don't know, maybe I'll start with Stephen Greer because I think that's a little more

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mainstream and a little and he's I guess he's technically a doctor.

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I don't remember of what but not extraterrestrial studies.

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He's like a different sort of doctor.

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So my wife had started watching Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind, which is like a little

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docu-series and then she wanted to watch their feature length documentary called Unacknowledged.

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I will say that he definitely is a lot more sane than the Ancient Aliens and History Channel.

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So a lot of the Ancient Aliens stuff is they find a human skull and then they look at it

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and say, oh, it doesn't have the suture lines.

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It has to be alien.

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And so I looked it up real quick because you've got the Google machine in your pocket at all

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times and I don't watch this stuff.

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It was when we were over at somebody else's but it was like, yeah, those kind of disappear

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anywhere between age seven and 70.

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And so some people die before they disappear.

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Sometimes they don't disappear.

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Like it's not a huge deal.

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Like it's not a medical mystery that should make anybody go and say, well, it doesn't

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have the same lines that most skulls have.

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So it's got to be an alien.

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And that's not even pseudo-science.

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That's just wishful thinking on the show's part.

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They just get these crazy people in there and they say, okay, what can we randomly say

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as aliens today?

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Sure.

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But this guy, he's a little more methodical and he's apparently got dossiers on lots of

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different things.

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And they brought in people that allegedly worked for the Air Force in Roswell and they

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claimed that their job was misinformation and they weren't able to discuss about things,

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but they totally saw something there.

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And I guess the Stephen Greer's newest thing is he believes that anybody can contact aliens.

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If they want to.

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And his belief is that aliens don't want to do us any harm and they're more worried about

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us blowing ourselves up than they are of anything else because of our nuclear capabilities.

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So already you can kind of tell without getting into any of his alien data or facts, as he

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claims, that he's got an agenda.

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The aliens are peaceful.

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They're not going to hurt us.

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Which there's really, I mean, you know, there's really nothing on our planet to give anybody

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that impression.

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I mean, look at humanity from the dawn of time, look at animals fighting each other,

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look at, you know, I mean, just look at everything in nature.

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It's always a struggle, you know?

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I suppose you could evolve to the point, right, where you wouldn't need any of that, but...

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I always thought it would be interesting to meet aliens until I heard Richard, Stephen

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Hawking, I was going to say Richard Dawkins, but Stephen Hawking that did a little speech

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about it.

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And in this little statement he made, he said that meeting an alien civilization would be

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like the Native Americans meeting Europeans for the first time.

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And I was like, that is probably the truth, dude.

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That is probably the truth.

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And it did not go very well for the Native Americans and we are the Native Americans

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in that scenario.

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So, if there is a more advanced alien civilization, it would be not good for us if we came into

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contact with them.

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Most likely.

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Most likely.

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But, so anyway, Stephen Greer believes that, and now I haven't seen, this is his new series

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out, The Closing Counters of the Fifth Kind.

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But in summation, and again, not having watched it or not being an expert on contacting peaceful

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aliens whenever I choose to, you can apparently meditate and get into a deep meditative state

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and reach out to the cosmos and communicate with these friendly aliens.

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So I don't know much about that other than I don't know if you've heard of a study called

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the God Helmet.

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So this was a clinical medical study that they did and they built this helmet to stimulate

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with electric shocks or electric impulses different areas of your brain.

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And they would put it on you and people who would wear this helmet would claim to see

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angels in the room.

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They would claim to see deceased loved ones in the room.

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And so they were, the patients anyway, or the subjects, were 100% convinced that this

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helmet allowed them to tear through the life-death veil and see heaven and things.

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And they reported, they all reported similar senses of euphoria as the extremely devout

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experience in a church service.

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So it was stimulating that same area of the brain, whatever area that is, me not being

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a scientist or a doctor.

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But I was curious because I was thinking that was the first thing that popped into my head

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is if you are able to somehow through training or willful delusion activate certain areas

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of your brain, you could certainly believe you were communicating with something or somebody.

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I mean, it's kind of like how a Ouija board works.

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You can't have an Ouija board where you're working alone.

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You can, but it loses the charm.

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Or you have a serious illness.

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Yeah, that too.

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And then we'll look forward to watching the Hollywood horror film remake of your story.

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But in the documentary, so that bit aside, I just figured I had to mention that just

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upfront that he has some kind of out there claims.

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But for this documentary, he went through and presented all this evidence and his big

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thing was stop asking the people that believe that aliens are here to give you proof.

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We've given you proof.

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There's plenty of proof out there.

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And then he proceeded for the hour and a half of the documentary to not really give conclusive

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evidence or proof.

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So it's kind of hard to take him at face value.

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Now I know the Pentagon did release a bunch of UFO papers recently.

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Their papers just confirmed the leaked information we already had.

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Yeah, that they saw something they couldn't identify doesn't necessarily mean it's an

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alien.

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That they saw something they claimed they couldn't identify.

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That's more important.

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They claimed they couldn't identify it.

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I am partial to the idea that a lot of the alien sightings are a part of like the old

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Cold War game and the current geopolitics.

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We're seeing this crazy thing that the US military is not capable of.

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And here's the evidence that's leaked to blah, blah, blah.

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I'm partial to that theory.

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It's possible that there's aliens, of course.

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I'm not going to deny that.

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My fantasy and wonder wants that to be true.

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Well yeah.

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I first got, not first got introduced to aliens.

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It was at a barbecue and no, I mean, of course, like growing up watching Star Trek and X-Files

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and things, it was always, you know, aliens were everywhere.

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Did you watch Star Trek as a child?

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See, I did not.

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I saw a couple episodes on UPN9.

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But we didn't have satellite or anything like that growing up.

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So no, my dad had them all on VHS.

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My parents weren't into sci-fi.

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They were westerns and old movies and Disney movies and stuff like that.

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Deep Space Nine.

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Deep Space Nine.

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Yep.

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Deep Space Nine.

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And then Voyager and then Enterprise.

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And we watched like all of those every week.

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You know, there's just over the lake, local.

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I know, I think, I think it was, well, okay.

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So it was after, this was like during high schools when I kind of really started watching

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that stuff because then we had, we actually had satellite at that time.

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But the first, the first, I think the first thing that I kind of read that was somebody

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seriously like honestly believing that there were aliens that had come down and visited

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us was Charites of the Gods by Eric Von Daniken.

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And I think I've talked about him before on the podcast, but not regarding aliens so much

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as religion because he's a devout, was, is, I don't know if he's still living, a devout

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Catholic.

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And he kind of went through the entire Bible and explained every miracle as having been

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happened or caused by aliens.

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And so, you know, he's like, okay, so when Lot's wife turns into the pillar of salt,

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it's because the alien warp core overheated and went nuclear and we totally went and checked

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the trees.

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He did not.

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And there's totally radioactive evidence in their, in their bark, in their cross section.

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And that's completely 100% fabricated.

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He never went to check the trees.

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He just wrote it because he thought it sounded nice.

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But you know, that was like my first exposure to somebody who was published and believed

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that aliens were here and doing things.

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It doesn't sound to me like that person believed.

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It sounds to me like they were trying to make you profit off of people who didn't have access

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to the internet.

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Well, and possibly, and this is an older book, you know, from the, I don't know, seventies

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or eighties, maybe.

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You can say whatever you want 1970 in a pulp novel.

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Yes.

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And then he made, you know, and he wrote, I think a couple of sequels to that and further

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expounded his heavy air quotes beliefs.

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Right.

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But you know, a further like moral character research into him, not that that, you know,

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we, you know, poo poo the police for doing this when they go and try and, you know, arrest

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somebody.

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But you know, he is convicted of some crime somewhere.

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So he's not necessarily the most straight laced person.

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And it's different because we're not armed and going to try to apprehend him.

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We're just talking about his ideas.

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So when you say it sounds like somebody trying to make a profit, that's definitely not out

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of the realm of possibility.

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No.

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And I think a lot of it's scamming, a lot of it's scamming because I used to listen

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to late night NPR, you know, okay.

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And that NPR would be talk radio.

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And it was coast to coast.

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You ever listened to coast to coast?

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I haven't listened, but I'm vaguely familiar.

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People would call in claiming to be aliens and people would call in claiming to be alien

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experts.

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And the host would have conversations with people who claim to be possessed by aliens.

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Perfect.

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Right, and that's kind of how I feel about a lot of the alien stuff.

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Yeah.

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And I think that is probably the biggest hurdle is if you believe or if you have found, let's

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just say you've found concrete evidence of alien visitation.

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The problem is anytime you mention the word alien or extraterrestrial or UFO or what have

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you, you attract all of these like really nutty people.

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And as soon as the nutty person tries to associate themselves with you, you become discredited.

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So even if you had all of the data and you're ready to go and brief somebody on this, you're

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never going to get that brief out before somebody makes a crack about it or associates you with

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a crackpot or any of those things.

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So it feels like it's a very difficult field to try and prove conclusively without grabbing

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like an actual flying saucer with an alien coming out of it.

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And even then, with all the deep fake technology we have today and CGI stuff, there's almost

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no way to know for sure.

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Unless you see it with your own eyes.

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Yeah.

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It's difficult.

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I listened to a program called Mysterious Universe.

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Have you ever heard of this?

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No.

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My good friend who's a crazy hippie, he introduced me to the show and they talk about some things

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that are true.

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A lot of it is alien abduction and crazy stuff like that.

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Yeah.

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And there's a lot of similarities in a lot of the stories.

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Usually it's people who have, they're seeking out aliens or something of that nature and

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they find it.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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If you look for something, you're going to find it as the saying goes.

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And I think that that's a big part of it too, are people who have mental health issues potentially

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already convinced themselves that they're seeing something weird.

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I know that Skinwalker Ranch seems to have a lot of crazy shit happening at it.

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Yep.

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And the government tries to put a stamp down on that, which tells me it might be just a

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cover up for a military base potentially.

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Yeah.

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Or they might just randomly pick something from the History Channel's lineup and say,

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let's just stamp down this one thing and then that'll keep everybody looking over there

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and continue doing our stuff over here.

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Bob Lazar is kind of a similar story to that where you don't know who Bob Lazar is.

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No.

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Okay.

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Bob Lazar was a guy who claimed to work at Los Alamos nuclear testing facility and he

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got hired to work on a secret military base that does in fact exist.

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And he claimed that there they were working on ships that were crashed.

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And he has a lot of crazy stories attached to that.

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And he wrote a book and he went on Joe Rogan.

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And one of the things about Bob Lazar that makes his story believable was that the government

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did actively try to unperson him in the 80s and the 90s.

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So they tried to deny that he worked for the government at Los Alamos, which he proved

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he produced documents saying that he did.

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And there's no record that he ever went to MIT, but yet somehow he was hired to be a

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rocket scientist at Los Alamos nuclear facility.

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Okay.

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You know what I mean, like real questionable, but well, where did he, he's got only has

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a record of ever graduating high school, but you hired him to be a rocket scientist at

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a government nuclear facility.

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That seems legit.

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He also produced documents proving that this military base of the government denied and

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then after a time admitted existed.

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So he knew about a military base that the government said didn't exist.

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And then now they say it does.

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Okay.

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And he also predicted an element on the periodic table that didn't exist yet being discovered

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before it was discovered.

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Okay.

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There's some interesting information that he's had.

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So a lot of the evidence, it's all circumstantial to an extent, other than the Los Alamos lab

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thing, there's like very solid evidence to prove that the government's trying to unperson

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him.

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Yeah.

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And force him into a bad position in life.

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And he's done some shady things as a result.

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Again, one of those kinds of things where he was caught kind of scamming people, but

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that was after he kind of was unpersoned by the government.

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Okay.

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And he claims that the government does have nuclear spacecraft and they are trying to

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learn from them.

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Yep.

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Well, and it's interesting because even in the Steven...

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Also, by the way...

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Oh, sorry.

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Go on.

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Sorry to cut you off, but...

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No, no.

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...Bablazar also said that it is possible that it was a setup and that they allowed

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him to see this stuff knowing he would come forward to the news in an attempt to threaten

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the Russians.

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Okay.

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Like an advanced kind of like plot.

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Yep.

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And he's admitted as part of the Cold War.

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He fully admits that everything that he saw might be a lie.

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Yep.

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Well, that's interesting.

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It does very much appear that he is at the receiving end of a conspiracy against him

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by the government.

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Yeah.

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For sure.

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But anyway, go ahead.

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So and you can just get one of those, it doesn't have to be alien related.

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The government just has to decide to not like you.

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And then boom, you're at the receiving end of a conspiracy.

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But I was going to say it was interesting because the Steven Greer documentary brought

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up...

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Well, they were so nervous because they brought up at the beginning that these aliens are

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peaceful and they just want to communicate with us and they're so advanced.

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And one of the big complaints against the whole documentary is, well, if they're so

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advanced and peaceful, where are they?

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What are they doing?

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They can't shut down our nuclear sites or anything like that.

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So but at the end of the documentary there, they were kind of positing or putting forth

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that they believed that the United States government could fake an alien invasion and

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that they have the technology and the aircraft to do so.

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And the average citizen would not be any wiser.

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Like the average citizen wouldn't be able to tell if it was a government craft or an

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alien craft.

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So I think that tells you just how far possibly some of our military technology has come.

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But the point of that would be, again, further controlling the populace.

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Or in the documentary, it would be to wage war against the peaceful aliens.

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But I think in the government scenario, faking an alien invasion, it would be solely to control

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us, the people, and have nothing to do with actual aliens.

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Yeah, it'd be a version of Atlantia versus Oceania or whatever.

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I can't remember the three nation states in 1984 anymore, but it would always have war.

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Yeah, it'd be similar to the war on terror.

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Well, if you want to bring it to reality, yeah, the war on terror is perfect.

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The war on Ukraine, potentially.

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We'll see in time.

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Yeah, I guess the Ukraine forces pushed Russia back and then found a mass grave.

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But then when you think of the two most corrupt countries in the world are Russia and Ukraine,

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I don't know about world, but they're up there.

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You know, it really makes you wonder when you get some of this news and you're like,

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wow, did they really find a mass grave though?

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Because that's all the Ukraine needs is Russia to do something completely atrocious to get

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the backing of everybody and get a full blown like world war going over there.

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Let's say there was a mass grave.

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Was it the Russians that created the mass grave or was it the Ukrainians?

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I've heard no evidence to prove that.

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Also another good question.

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We know that they had a very difficult time with coming out with press releases that don't

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have Nazi references in them.

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They just released something the other day about a little boy that saluted the tanks

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that went by to the front and in the background there were little girls doing the Nazi salute

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to the same said tanks.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

446
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Oh, it's the propaganda is strong.

447
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Well, and that's something happening right here on earth.

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So we don't know what's going on over there.

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And so I think it's very difficult to say that anyone, any one person would know what's

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going on with aliens and whether they're here or not.

451
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Right.

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Well, did you see the, this was maybe, I don't know if it was real recent, Putin sent out

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a message to the American public about American inflation.

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Did you see that?

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No.

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It was very interesting.

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You should seek it out.

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I can send you a link.

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Okay.

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But Putin basically said that America's experiencing inflation because the U S government has been

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printing money like mad over the last several years and that our money supply has been inflated

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by 40% and we should expect to see 40% inflation.

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That's the direct result.

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Yeah.

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More or less it's more complicated than that obviously.

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Well, yeah.

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That's kind of where Russian propaganda, at least the stuff that I've seen, which we've

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discussed on the show and personally, it's hard to, because they're banning Russian propaganda,

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it's even harder to know what they're really saying.

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We only get little snippets that happen to make it through the firewall.

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Yep.

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And most of the propaganda I hear is just the Russian government telling the truth about

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the American government.

474
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Yeah.

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I mean, you know, the Russian government isn't telling lies as well.

476
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They certainly are.

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I just haven't happened to hear any of those lies recently.

478
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It doesn't take a whole lot to talk smack about our government.

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In my opinion, the most effective propaganda is true.

480
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Yeah.

481
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Well, and by and large here, if you're watching American media, you only hear what the government

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wants you to hear.

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Even if it's something that you think is super benign, but if you watch, you know, like the

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BBC or, you know, just the different countries coverage of the event that happened in America,

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sometimes it's drastically different.

486
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Well, the BBC is propaganda as well.

487
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,400
Yes, but it's different propaganda so they don't propaganda size the exact same points

488
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,880
that America does.

489
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:25,640
So if you're watching the same news story or a news story about the same news event

490
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:31,160
and you watch the United States media versus, you know, the BBC, there's going to be enough

491
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,960
differences that kind of make you realize that somebody's intentionally messing with

492
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,960
the facts here.

493
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,960
Oh, yes.

494
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:51,080
That's like in our news, they try to say that Russians are being squeezed by American sanctions.

495
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:58,360
But I watch a channel by a Danish guy that lives in Siberia and he's been doing updates

496
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,800
on the prices in his local Siberian town.

497
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,800
Yeah.

498
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,400
And none of the prices have gone up.

499
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:12,720
Not, I mean, I guess maybe it's Russian propaganda, but that'd be pretty deep level involvement

500
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,320
with this fucking random dude that lives out in the middle of nowhere.

501
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,320
Yeah.

502
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,120
Literally shows you with his camera, he walks into the store with the camera and shows you

503
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,480
the prices on the shelves in the store on the side of the street.

504
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,080
It's all a set, man.

505
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,080
It could be a set.

506
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,080
I'm doubting it though.

507
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,080
It could be like, it's the Truman show.

508
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,080
Yeah.

509
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,360
It's the Truman show in the wilderness.

510
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,720
It could be, like I say, he does woodsman videos.

511
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,720
That's why I watched him back.

512
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,000
I started watching him before all this stuff happened.

513
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Yeah.

514
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:54,280
But yeah, I don't think, I'm not even sure if he's a Russian citizen, to be honest with

515
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,280
you.

516
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,280
Oh yeah.

517
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,280
Yeah.

518
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,080
So I think I'm about halfway done with the cigar.

519
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:08,360
And I think the same as last time really, it's been really consistent throughout.

520
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,360
Very consistent.

521
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,360
I don't...

522
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,200
I'm trying to smoke it a little slower this time.

523
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,200
As am I.

524
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,880
I'm not getting a lot of depth of character on this cigar for some reason.

525
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,880
Nope.

526
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,880
It's really not well-rounded.

527
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,640
It's one note.

528
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,640
It's a good note.

529
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,640
Yeah.

530
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,640
It's a fine note.

531
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:38,400
You know, again, I think the Cameroon was better.

532
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,400
Yes.

533
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,680
Yes, I agree.

534
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,680
It's fine.

535
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,800
It's not something I'm right all about.

536
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,800
So far.

537
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,800
We'll see.

538
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,800
So far.

539
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,800
Not that it's bad.

540
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,240
It is something I would podcast about though.

541
00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:58,640
Right.

542
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,320
Maybe it's all the alien talk that's souring my tongue.

543
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,320
Could be.

544
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,100
I don't think so though.

545
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:11,120
This cigar is the linchpin in our defense against the imminent alien invasion.

546
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,280
And the aliens want this to taste bad to human palates.

547
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,280
So...

548
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,280
Right.

549
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,280
But it doesn't taste bad.

550
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:24,160
So that's just fantasy that I was saying.

551
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:29,120
Maybe we should put our addresses down and we'll get some tin foil sent to us to make

552
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,120
some helmets.

553
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,800
But we can really just cook chicken in the oven then.

554
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,800
You're right.

555
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,040
I have plenty of tin foil.

556
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:41,600
I'm not too worried about it, I guess.

557
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,600
I was really excited.

558
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:50,860
I went to a store in a different town and they had bullets there.

559
00:35:50,860 --> 00:35:54,480
So I actually got some shotgun ammo for peasant hunting season.

560
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,480
Okay, good.

561
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,320
I got some.22s and some gold dots.

562
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,520
So I saw some gold dots.

563
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,840
And I was like, oh, fuck yeah, I'll get some gold dots.

564
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,600
Did you take your hovercraft and were you wearing your gray man suit in this other town?

565
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,600
No.

566
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,400
I did buy a bucket of.22 rounds though.

567
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,400
Okay.

568
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,400
That was nice.

569
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:27,000
Down here, the 1400 round Remington buckets, they don't have those here for some reason

570
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000
anymore.

571
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:34,160
They get sold out right away, which is super disappointing in my opinion.

572
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Is the.22 ammo still crazy expensive?

573
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,160
They did have.45 and.40 and stuff.

574
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,160
What did you say?

575
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,440
Oh, I was just asking, is the.22 ammo still crazy expensive?

576
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,240
No, it wasn't that bad.

577
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:49,240
I think it was a hundred bucks for 1400 rounds, which is more expensive than it was years

578
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:51,360
ago, but inflation and stuff.

579
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,360
Yeah.

580
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,720
You know, we used to be able to buy 550 for about 25 bucks.

581
00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:01,400
So it's not completely unreasonable to spend a hundred for 14.

582
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,400
I don't think.

583
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,400
Yeah.

584
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:10,440
The most expensive.22 I ever bought, I bought a box of 550 for $75 during the Obama administration.

585
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,440
Okay.

586
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,800
And I had none.

587
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,800
I had no ammo.

588
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,080
So of course I bought it.

589
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:24,240
And then I traded it later to a guy that needed that ammo more than I.

590
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:26,440
And that's how you got your alien costume.

591
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,440
Right.

592
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,440
Yeah.

593
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,080
That's exactly it.

594
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:39,880
And I needed four shot, some four shot at an ounce three ACE at 1450 feet per second.

595
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,240
So just enough to go hunting later in the season.

596
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,240
That's it.

597
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:47,760
I don't really need a whole lot.

598
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:48,760
Yup.

599
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:55,080
I thought about buying more than one box, but I didn't, didn't want to be selfish.

600
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Yup.

601
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:02,400
So, yeah, I wonder if there'd be any way to know though about the aliens.

602
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,360
Maybe in our lifetime we'll find out, but yeah, maybe it's one of those unknowable things

603
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,560
man until after the fact, you know, like, well, yeah.

604
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,120
And I mean, now we've got the James Webb up there taking amazing photos.

605
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,120
So right.

606
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:22,840
You know, maybe we'll see something there, but I got to think if there, if, if the alien

607
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:30,160
life isn't within our solar system or just outside of it, there's no way to ever find

608
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:37,960
it because there's probably way more uninhabited planets than inhabited planets.

609
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,020
Yes.

610
00:38:40,020 --> 00:38:46,040
So the odds of like happening to point your telescope at one planet where there happens

611
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:53,600
to be a display you can see from space, you know, millions of miles away is pretty slim.

612
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,940
Extremely slim.

613
00:38:56,940 --> 00:39:04,840
If we ever find out about aliens, I'm going to predict it will be like the Gulf of Tonkin

614
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,400
or any other false flag operation the government does.

615
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,400
Yeah.

616
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:16,800
And then years and years later, after it's no longer relevant and in the zeitgeist, the

617
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:22,760
government will admit to their wrongdoing and nobody will pay attention to it.

618
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,760
Like Justin.

619
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,080
People still deny the government wrongdoing because the government released the information

620
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:34,560
in such a way to where it didn't make the headlines because of course the corporations

621
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:41,680
and the government are one in the United States, so there's no interest in the news media to

622
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:47,120
talk about how the Gulf of Tonkin was a fucking false flag and that the United States government

623
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,680
got involved in Vietnam under false pretenses and all those people that went there died

624
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:52,680
from nothing.

625
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,680
Yeah.

626
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:59,320
Well, they've been conditioning the American population for a long time and it's only gotten

627
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:08,840
worse and worse with social media and everything because the collective societal attention

628
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,880
span is so short.

629
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,400
Unfortunately.

630
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,400
Like everybody was up in arms over the Panama Papers and the Pandora Papers.

631
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,560
Well, more so the first one.

632
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,840
And then the second one, they came out and people were talking about it for like maybe

633
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,720
a day and a half and then nothing.

634
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:30,080
And they were onto the next thing.

635
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,920
What about Ghislaine Maxwell?

636
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,000
Having her to peep from her, about her.

637
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,760
I was at a party and my brother claimed that Ghislaine was killed in prison and I didn't

638
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,360
find any news sources that corroborated that.

639
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,960
No, I don't think so.

640
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,960
I think that's just trying to sensationalize something I think.

641
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,960
Right.

642
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,360
He probably had some misinformation that he received on social media.

643
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,360
Yeah.

644
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,400
And he was like, what about all the people though that were listed?

645
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:05,880
I still see that Bill Gates is moving around and doing his speeches and not every time

646
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,400
he goes up there, somebody calling him out for being on, you know, Petafal Island.

647
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,400
Yep.

648
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,120
That should be the only thing they talk to him about ever again in public.

649
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,600
Yep.

650
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,600
In my opinion.

651
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,080
And Bill Gates and Elon Musk.

652
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,560
Was Elon Musk on Petafal Island?

653
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:30,360
I don't know if Bill and Elon were there, but they certainly ran in the same circles

654
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,200
and both have pictures taken with him.

655
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,240
Bill Gates was on Petafal Island.

656
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,240
Many times.

657
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:38,240
Proven.

658
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,320
I don't know about Elon Musk.

659
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,360
That wouldn't surprise me, I guess.

660
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,360
Well, yeah.

661
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,240
Either way, either way, it wouldn't surprise me.

662
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:46,560
Who the fuck knows?

663
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,280
But there are certain public figures who were.

664
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,280
Yep.

665
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,280
Stephen Hawking was.

666
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,280
Really?

667
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,280
Isn't that shocking?

668
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,280
On the island?

669
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,280
From what?

670
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:05,880
Well, from what I've heard, I don't have the full list of like, you know, collaborated

671
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,720
facts of people being there.

672
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,320
Stephen Hawking was.

673
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:18,920
And I suppose it's one of those things where, you know, if you were there one time, possibly

674
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,680
you would be unaware, but I'd find that still pretty hard to believe.

675
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,560
I would find it very difficult to believe.

676
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:32,520
You would go to some crazy billionaire's island and not know what was going down.

677
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,280
That's not how it works.

678
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,920
It's not like you invited me to your house and I don't know, before you lived there,

679
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,880
there was some crazy shit going on.

680
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,880
Yeah.

681
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,440
Which there was.

682
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,440
We all know that.

683
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,440
But.

684
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,440
Well, yes.

685
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,920
And we're still working on cleaning that up.

686
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:52,920
Yes.

687
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,920
Are you really?

688
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,920
No.

689
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:55,920
Oh, OK.

690
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,920
I was going to say, jeez crease, it's been some time.

691
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,920
Yeah.

692
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:00,920
Yeah.

693
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:07,240
You know, but it's like, it's one thing if you're like the average, average person and

694
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:12,760
there is crazy stuff that happens, you know, like our front door got kicked in, you know,

695
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,440
before we moved in.

696
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:20,600
And, you know, you don't just go and replace your door frame as an average person.

697
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:26,040
Like if the door closes and locks and there's a steel plate there now, like that's fine.

698
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,600
We've since replaced the door and the frame.

699
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,480
But you know, if you're a billionaire, it's like if there's something goofy that the previous

700
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,400
owner had done, you just you get that day in care of that day.

701
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,600
You just pay somebody, you know.

702
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,600
Right.

703
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,120
Your reputation should be, would be important.

704
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,120
Yeah.

705
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,600
And if you're a pedophile and you're inviting people to your island, your private island,

706
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,280
they're going to, they're going to know that's something they're going to learn.

707
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,400
Like he's not going to, it's his own private island.

708
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,720
He's not going to tidy up all the pedophilia stuff when he invites people over.

709
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:05,160
Like he only invites those people over that are into that kind of thing.

710
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,160
Yeah.

711
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,120
I mean, the guess that the non-pedophiles just don't go there.

712
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,120
Yeah.

713
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,680
You know, like we've got the, the listening room downstairs with all the vinyl records.

714
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,060
Guess who I don't invite to the vinyl listening room?

715
00:44:18,060 --> 00:44:19,800
People that don't like music.

716
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:25,040
I've never been there.

717
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,040
You've been there.

718
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,040
I have.

719
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,040
I have.

720
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,040
And I like music fun.

721
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Yeah.

722
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,160
And, and to be fair, it was just an over the shorts kind of thing.

723
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,160
It wasn't anything.

724
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,720
Yeah.

725
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:43,120
You don't fly on the, on the, on the pedophile palace plane.

726
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,120
Yeah.

727
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,120
80 times.

728
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,120
Yeah.

729
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,760
And you're like, oh, you're not into that.

730
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:56,720
And you can't tell me like, you can't tell me you thought she was 18.

731
00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:57,720
You know what I mean?

732
00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:04,840
Like we're not talking 17 and a half year olds or on this island.

733
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,840
You know what I mean?

734
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,760
There were some 15s and some 14s.

735
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,000
Yeah.

736
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,240
And some 17s as well.

737
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,240
From what I understand, there was a few, unfortunately.

738
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:17,160
I'm not, it's not a good thing.

739
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,160
No.

740
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,000
None of them were nine from what I understand.

741
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Of course, I don't really know all the details.

742
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,560
I haven't looked that deep into it.

743
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,200
Well, yeah, it's one of those things I don't really need to look deep into.

744
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,600
Like if your name's associated with, with him, like that's enough for me.

745
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,600
Right.

746
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:38,520
I know the Clintons were involved.

747
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,520
Yeah.

748
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,200
I gotta say, man, this cigar has gotten very sour and I've been trying not to smoke.

749
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,200
Very fast.

750
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,360
But I just, it's not, uh, I think you gotta be smoking it too fast.

751
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,360
Mine's not that bad.

752
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,360
Okay.

753
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:56,160
I mean, I'm going to put it down and kind of let it like sit, but I don't know, man,

754
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,160
I'm just getting.

755
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,160
Yeah.

756
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,160
Mine's woody.

757
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,160
I got two inches left or so.

758
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,760
Maybe, uh, yeah, I'd say two inches left.

759
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:05,760
It's woody.

760
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,200
That's what I got left, but it's, uh, I'm not digging it.

761
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,200
Yeah.

762
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,720
Mine's not, mine's not terrible.

763
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:15,760
It's definitely one of those ones where you have to let it sit.

764
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,400
If you smoke too fast, it's like a, the little cigarillos.

765
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,400
Yeah.

766
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:26,920
It's like that where you have to smoke a cigarillo very slow on purpose.

767
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,360
And this is one of those cigars, I think.

768
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,360
Okay.

769
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,080
Just got to take it slow on purpose, slow it down, you know?

770
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,080
Yeah.

771
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,440
So it probably doesn't match my, uh, my smoke style, but.

772
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,480
You used to smoke a lot slower.

773
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,480
I did.

774
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,480
That's true.

775
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:49,480
But when you start doing a podcast and we're trying to kind of finish at the same time,

776
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,040
which you know, taking out of context could sound, uh, kind of scandalous, but.

777
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,040
Right.

778
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Yeah.

779
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:02,280
We have to do them in a timely manner, I suppose.

780
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,280
They take what they take, man.

781
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,280
They take what they take.

782
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,280
That's true.

783
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,040
I mean, I'm not trying to rush, I'm not trying to rush through it.

784
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,560
I just try to keep pace with you is what I try to do.

785
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,560
So.

786
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:18,760
And now that I've been smoking more cigars too, it's easier to, you know, smoke them

787
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,560
at a little quicker pace, I guess.

788
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,320
Um, cause I remember when I, when we first started smoking together, you'd, you'd smoke

789
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,360
almost two to my one.

790
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,360
I do remember that.

791
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,360
Yeah.

792
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,600
Yep.

793
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,520
I would light up a second cigar and be done with it about the same time as you were done

794
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,520
with the first.

795
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,520
Yep.

796
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,160
Which is not a good habit to get into.

797
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,920
Well, too late.

798
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,200
Oh, well.

799
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,760
You enjoyed them.

800
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:53,760
Yes.

801
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,440
Uh, savored, if you will.

802
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,440
Yes.

803
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,440
Yeah.

804
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,160
These are definitely cigars where you have to like really let them pool, I think.

805
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,160
Yeah.

806
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,160
Which is okay.

807
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,160
It's fine.

808
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,160
Uh.

809
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,160
It is fine.

810
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,160
Yeah.

811
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,160
It's fine.

812
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Yeah, it's so aliens.

813
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,360
Uh, I think a lot of it's nonsense.

814
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,680
There is some real information that comes through, of course.

815
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,240
The Bob Lazar thing is the most convincing evidence I've ever seen, but even he says

816
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:27,760
that it might be misinformation by the government.

817
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,760
Yeah.

818
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:33,440
I think he might even be an agent to the government like Alex Jones.

819
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,440
Okay.

820
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,920
Uh, because Alex Jones is fed information by the CIA.

821
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,600
From his own in middle, he's fed information from the CIA.

822
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,680
So some of it's real and some of it's not real.

823
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,680
Yep.

824
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:52,040
And it wouldn't surprise me if Bob Lazar was a government agent in that sense.

825
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:57,400
That's why it wouldn't surprise me if your Siberian woods guy is an agent of the Russian

826
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,240
government as well.

827
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:00,600
It's possible.

828
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,560
It's been talked about in his comments.

829
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,520
Let's put it that way.

830
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,520
Okay.

831
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,240
I mean, it's really tough to say.

832
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:11,400
It is tough to say.

833
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,000
And he's got a lot of good information about the woodsman stuff.

834
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Oh yeah.

835
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:26,040
You know, so being a person that lives in the Taiga myself, I enjoy his content.

836
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,880
But it's really difficult to say.

837
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:39,520
I don't believe that it is misinformation from survival Russia is the name of the channel.

838
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,640
If anybody wants to go and do their own research.

839
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,040
Yeah, go ahead and check it out.

840
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,360
Survival Russia.

841
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,520
I don't think it is misinformation, but it is very possible that it is.

842
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,760
And he stopped, he kind of stopped doing that sort of content with the prices because he

843
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,040
was getting so much blowback.

844
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,200
So I don't know.

845
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,440
Impossible to tell really.

846
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,440
Yeah.

847
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,600
Especially because he does his channel in English.

848
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,920
So it is intended for an American audience.

849
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,440
American and English.

850
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,800
Yes.

851
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:31,160
So where the English speaking group is a large audience on the internet.

852
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,400
So it is true.

853
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,200
I do occasionally watch videos in non-English, but not very many.

854
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:43,840
I know that there's a whole non-English speaking internet out there, but I don't participate.

855
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:44,840
Yeah.

856
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,080
We don't want no part of that.

857
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,080
I do some.

858
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:53,400
I'll do watch videos and stuff like that.

859
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,760
They get a lot of watches that we don't have access to here.

860
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:08,120
Especially Japanese domestic market watches, which is mostly what I'm interested in.

861
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,240
You could go there and buy them, right?

862
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:11,240
Yeah.

863
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:12,240
Yeah.

864
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:13,240
You can buy them here.

865
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:15,880
You just can't get a warranty on them.

866
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,880
Oh yeah.

867
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,240
It's much more difficult to buy them.

868
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:22,640
You have to go through a dealer.

869
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:28,720
So there's several dealers that you can go through.

870
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:31,360
Even some American dealers get access to some of that.

871
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:32,360
Okay.

872
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,360
Very limited quantities.

873
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,360
Yeah.

874
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,360
Same with bowling balls.

875
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:40,920
They have international bowling balls that you can't really get in the States, but there

876
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,600
are dealers you can get them through.

877
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,520
I just want everyone to know.

878
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:53,840
It took Mike 52 minutes to bring up bowling.

879
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,640
Is that a comment that they talk about?

880
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,640
No.

881
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:05,440
Most of our podcasts go back to bowling when we're done talking about the main topic.

882
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,720
That's because that's what I do.

883
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:12,360
We still have cigars left to smoke and it's like, well, bowling.

884
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,360
Yeah.

885
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,960
I fucking love bowling.

886
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,960
Yeah.

887
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,120
Bowling season started people.

888
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,120
Yeah.

889
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,680
So that's what I'll be doing weekly.

890
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:31,920
Now until March, April, something like that.

891
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,920
We'll see.

892
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,840
I want to do the national tournament this year.

893
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,840
What's that?

894
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:44,480
They have a big national team and doubles and singles event every year.

895
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,760
I don't know where it's going to be this year.

896
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,240
Last year it was in Vegas.

897
00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:48,240
We'll see.

898
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:53,960
Supposedly they're going to start traveling again to do the big national tournament.

899
00:52:53,960 --> 00:53:00,640
My dad wants to do it, so I'd like to go and bowl with him before he dies.

900
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:06,440
But he's many years from dying, hopefully, but everybody gets older every year.

901
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,680
It is true.

902
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:14,600
I would like to go and bowl with him in that event at least once.

903
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,600
And I'd like to bowl with him state this year too.

904
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:22,480
I don't think our team is going to do as well as my team did last year, but oh well.

905
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,080
They can't do well every year, I suppose.

906
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,640
Yeah, you can.

907
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,200
But everybody else has to do bad then.

908
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,200
Yeah.

909
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,200
By comparison.

910
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:45,000
Sarah just started painting the entryway to the house too.

911
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,720
Yeah, I saw that.

912
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:48,960
While she posted stuff online.

913
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,520
Of course she did.

914
00:53:51,520 --> 00:54:01,200
She posted something about reclaiming or whatever, more white walls in the house.

915
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,040
So I commented and said, well, if you run out of white walls there, we got plenty here.

916
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:12,520
So yeah, she's a big fan of painting.

917
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,520
Yep.

918
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,320
Which is good though.

919
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,120
Yeah, whatever.

920
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,080
Paint's cheap.

921
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,440
Doesn't take much to breathe a little bit of life into a room.

922
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,920
No, no.

923
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,440
I want to do the smoking room eventually.

924
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,440
We have the color picked out.

925
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,440
It's just a matter of getting it done.

926
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,440
But I don't care when it gets done.

927
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,440
Yeah.

928
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:44,280
Now I know what you're going to say, but I've been letting it sit and then periodically

929
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,240
like picking it back up and it's still like just super sour.

930
00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:48,240
Really?

931
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,240
Uh oh.

932
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:50,240
Well, maybe the episode's done.

933
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:51,240
Why?

934
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:52,240
What'd you do to yours?

935
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:53,240
No, mine's fine.

936
00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:54,240
Oh.

937
00:54:54,240 --> 00:55:01,840
I was going to say, I don't have that much left and you know, this last, I mean the rest

938
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,320
of the cigar was fine.

939
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,320
It was, it was good.

940
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:09,200
Uh, it's just, it's always like the last few inches, uh, where it gets really super sour.

941
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:16,440
So while on these big, big gauge cigars, a lot of them we've had, uh, a lot of success

942
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,160
with smoking them all the way to the nub.

943
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,160
Yeah.

944
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:27,600
These are, they seem to be more finicky to the speed at which you smoke them.

945
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:28,600
Yes.

946
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:34,640
Or they're not really designed and intended to be smoked to the end.

947
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,640
That's also a possibility.

948
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:43,440
Uh, whether they'll admit that or not, it's another matter.

949
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,760
That is true.

950
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:50,480
And to be fair, we've only, this is what our third nub on the podcast anyway.

951
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:57,320
Um, so we don't really have the sample size to say one way or the other.

952
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,660
No we don't.

953
00:55:59,660 --> 00:56:00,660
We just do one.

954
00:56:00,660 --> 00:56:04,960
So yeah, it's hard to be fair.

955
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,960
Mine had a little sour note.

956
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,960
I have about an inch and a half left.

957
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,960
Okay.

958
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,160
And that had a sour, icky.

959
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:18,520
It hasn't been great for the last half an inch, but it hasn't been offensive either.

960
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:19,920
Yeah.

961
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,520
Which is not a great recommendation.

962
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,440
It's definitely not as bad as the, uh, cold blood moon.

963
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:26,440
Oh man.

964
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,160
I mean, you know, everything is like that.

965
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,880
We're not saying this is a bad cigar.

966
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,160
It's just, uh, you know, there, there've been some cigars that we smoked on the podcast

967
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:42,720
here where the first, uh, first inch, inch and a half has been fairly rough.

968
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:47,020
And then, you know, it evens out and becomes a really, really good cigar.

969
00:56:47,020 --> 00:56:53,240
This one, uh, these nubs, they start out good, you know, they start out and then they're

970
00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:54,240
consistent.

971
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:58,600
Uh, but I, but what I've been noticing at least on mine, and maybe it's my smoke speed

972
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:05,760
as Mike says is the last two inches or so just, uh, just isn't good.

973
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:12,320
Um, so maybe that's just the, maybe that's just how the nubs are made.

974
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,960
I don't know.

975
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,520
Reviews online would, uh, I guess maybe there's consensus online.

976
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,520
I didn't look.

977
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,520
I haven't looked either.

978
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:27,920
I know that they've been recommended to me by people who seem to really enjoy them.

979
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,920
Okay.

980
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,840
I, you know, I like them.

981
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,640
They're, you know, a good size.

982
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:40,320
Um, but I don't like the last few inches, so I'm fine wrapping here.

983
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,040
And the truth is out there.

984
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,720
The truth is out there.

985
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,720
Yeah.

986
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:51,000
For those who have audible, go and listen to the Bob Lazar book.

987
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,920
Uh, I don't know if I'd read it.

988
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,960
I think it'd be too difficult to read as far as that.

989
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:05,720
It wasn't that interesting for me to sit down and read or listen to the Bob Lazar episode

990
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,240
of the Joe Rogan podcast.

991
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,680
That was extremely interesting.

992
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:14,160
And it had all of the information that the book had more or less less detail, of course,

993
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,880
but it gets you all the basics of the Bob Lazar story.

994
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:20,880
And I would recommend it.

995
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:21,880
It's kind of fun fantasy.

996
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,400
I would say it's kind of like the, uh,

997
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:30,480
The Air Force guys that claim to have seen the tic tacs.

998
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,040
Have you heard of the tic tac?

999
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,040
No.

1000
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,960
Uh, there's been several Air Force pilots that have claimed to see UFOs.

1001
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:45,160
And a lot of times it's a tic tac that's flying around and doing things that are our current

1002
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,920
technology cannot achieve.

1003
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,920
Okay.

1004
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,760
And the government, that's one of the things that the federal government confirmed was

1005
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:57,480
true that they do a footage of this tic tac that they don't know what's happening.

1006
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,480
Okay.

1007
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:05,720
Which a lot of people are saying is potentially a flex and not actually alien technology.

1008
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,760
Oh, got it.

1009
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:08,760
Right.

1010
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,560
It's kind of one of those leaks where, yeah, we have this technology, but they don't want

1011
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,560
to say they have the technology.

1012
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,560
Yeah.

1013
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,440
All those kinds of deals.

1014
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,560
Do your research.

1015
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:24,960
Check into it if you're interested in aliens, try meditating and contacting them if you

1016
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,960
want to get off the planet for a little bit.

1017
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,920
Otherwise, thanks for listening.

1018
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:49,160
Be safe and have fun.