1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,640 Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Nate. 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:10,640 And I'm Mike. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,160 What do we got tonight Mike? 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,960 Today, whenever you're listening. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,280 Whenever you're listening. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,480 What do we have when you have it? 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,440 We have the Nub 4-inch Habano. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:31,920 I was giving this the old SNAS test, and it smells more interesting than the Cameroon 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,800 which we smoked last episode. 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Yes. 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:42,040 It smells much darker, well it looks much darker too. 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:47,440 I found, in my head I've always thought of myself as a Maduro guy. 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,040 But you've been digging the Connecticut's. 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:55,600 I've been digging the Connecticut's and the Cameroon's and the lighter stuff. 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,160 So not that I'm not liking the Maduro's. 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,560 Well yeah, of course. 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,960 Maybe my palate is changing. 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:08,000 Because I used to be really into English pipe tobacco as well. 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,080 And that stuff's really earthy, I like that. 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,080 Yeah so do I. 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,640 I like the spiciness of it. 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:20,600 But lately I've been going more towards the high end flavored and lighter tobaccos as 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,600 well. 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:31,240 So maybe in my old age, quote unquote old age, I am expanding my palate. 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:38,760 I don't want to get too deep into this, but I did try the Kalt Blood Red Moon pipe tobacco. 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,480 Oh did you? 27 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,880 With Dave. 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,200 And Dave has done a lot of aromatic tobaccos. 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:52,320 And we were sitting out smoking it and I built a fire back here out on our patio. 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,840 And I was telling Dave that this was my very first aromatic pipe tobacco. 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,000 And I've been smoking a pipe for two plus years now. 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:08,160 And he was very surprised that I hadn't had a flavored tobacco yet in my pipe. 33 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Wow. 34 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,840 See and I've tried a lot of flavored pipe tobaccos. 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,960 And I don't like them usually. 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,800 Yeah and that's what I thought, but that one was really nice because it's not overly... 37 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,900 And I don't want to get too much into it because we're going to do... 38 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:25,360 Hopefully we're going to do some little like special episodes with pipe tobaccos. 39 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,760 But I'm a fan. 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,760 I like that one. 41 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:34,760 Alright that's pretty much the first flavored pipe tobacco that I have found that I really 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,280 liked. 43 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,120 And I've tried the CAO cherry and I really like that one too. 44 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,120 Okay. 45 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:50,720 See I got the CAO cherry bomb and the Colt blood red moon in a pack. 46 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,840 In that pack from... 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,040 They had it on a huge discount on pipesandcigars.com. 48 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,360 Not a sponsor. 49 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,840 And I just got both because it was super cheap. 50 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,840 And I've only tried the blood red moon so far. 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:07,920 In my opinion the CAO cherry is not as good. 52 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:12,480 But I also have all of the CAO flavored tin tobaccos. 53 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,480 I want to try the Mood France. 54 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,480 Yes. 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,480 So do I. 56 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,040 I want to try all of them. 57 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,160 We're going to do some special episodes. 58 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,160 It is... 59 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,160 What is it? 60 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,320 It is September here. 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:34,520 It might be October by the time this episode goes live but in the winter it's a lot easier 62 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,480 for me to smoke a pipe because it smokes a lot quicker than a cigar. 63 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:45,320 So we might be recording some special episodes over the winter here. 64 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,520 For our listeners. 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:48,520 You know what? 66 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,360 This one doesn't taste overly bitter at start. 67 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,760 And I'm getting a...I don't know if nutty is the right sense but it's kind of like a 68 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,240 sweet nut. 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,360 It's interesting because my sense of smell is not very good. 70 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,360 And not because of COVID. 71 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,120 It's just it's never been very good. 72 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,480 Like I can smell things. 73 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,780 But Sarah will always smell things first and be like do you smell that? 74 00:04:14,780 --> 00:04:19,360 And then if I really inhale I can smell whatever she's talking about. 75 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,800 Sure. 76 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:28,080 So I think because I don't have a highly attuned sense of smell that maybe my taste isn't as 77 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,520 highly attuned either. 78 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:36,560 But I'm trying my best for this podcast to explain what it is I'm tasting but a lot of 79 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,680 times I just don't know. 80 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,040 Other than if I like it or don't. 81 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,040 So sure. 82 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:50,280 I'm getting nuttiness and that traditional kind of alcohol-y flavor that you get at the 83 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:51,280 start of a cigar. 84 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:52,280 You know what I mean? 85 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:53,280 That really high note. 86 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:56,760 That almost like liquor. 87 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,960 I like this one. 88 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,840 I'm only a couple puffs in of course but... 89 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:05,720 I had some waiting issues so I just lit mine. 90 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,720 I'm about an eighth of an inch in. 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:16,120 So I wanted to talk about this and I was telling Mike in between episodes here that I'm drinking 92 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:21,680 the...I bought this as a single from Trader Joe's because Trader Joe's is one of the few 93 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:28,040 liquor stores you can just walk into and crack open a pack on the shelf and buy one can or 94 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,000 one bottle. 95 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:36,120 But I bought this big, big tall boy can of Toplin Goliath Brewery. 96 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,840 The King Sue Double India Pale Ale. 97 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:45,000 And if you go to the Natural History Museum or the Field Museum in Chicago, they brewed 98 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:51,760 the Sue beer for Sue, the Tyrannosaurus Rex, which is on display there. 99 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,760 And this is the double IPA version of that. 100 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,120 And it's brewed in Decora, Iowa of all places. 101 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,800 And we talked about Iowa on our last episode. 102 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:09,240 But this one's got like some mango, orange, and pineapple in it. 103 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,600 And I'm just reading that from the can. 104 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,520 I can't taste hardly anything. 105 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,920 I mean, that's not true, but like I don't have the palette. 106 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:23,680 So I think it's a good pairing with this little bit darker Habano. 107 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,400 We did say we were smoking the Nub Habano, right? 108 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,400 Yes. 109 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,400 Yes. 110 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,520 You know, I don't have a great palette either. 111 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,000 So I like dark roast coffee. 112 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,160 I like medium roast coffee as well under certain circumstances. 113 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,560 But I have never found a light roast coffee where I was like, ooh, this is wonderful. 114 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:45,560 Okay. 115 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,360 And normally we drink, like I drink when I go buy coffee in the store, in the grocery 116 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,160 store, I always pick the light roast. 117 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,160 Sure. 118 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,200 So you and I get medium. 119 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Because. 120 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,200 And dark. 121 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,200 Because. 122 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:03,440 I read somewhere that light roast coffee has more caffeine than dark roast. 123 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,320 I've always been under that impression as well. 124 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:16,640 We always, we usually get the Cameron's, which is local, you know, it's a Minnesota coffee. 125 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,320 And they've got some good light roasts. 126 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,320 Sure. 127 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,040 And they've actually been branching out now and they've got like a Hawaii, a Hawaiian 128 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,000 blend and a Norwegian blend. 129 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,280 Their woods and water is really nice. 130 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:35,480 So if you see that you should pick up at least a small bag and just give it a try. 131 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,520 I'm really, I'm a big fan of their velvet moon. 132 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,520 Ooh, that one's good. 133 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,560 Is that their espresso, right? 134 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Yep. 135 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,280 That's the medium, medium dark espresso bean. 136 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,520 And it's wonderful. 137 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:49,520 That is very good. 138 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Very good. 139 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:56,360 But I drink a lot of different coffees from a lot of different places, local places usually. 140 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,360 And you drink a lot of tea. 141 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,360 I do. 142 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Which we've talked about before on the podcast here. 143 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:02,800 Yep. 144 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,600 I am a tea guy. 145 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,720 There's one company, now I can't remember the name of it, but I drink several of their 146 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,920 teas and they're out in North Carolina. 147 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,920 Okay. 148 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:13,920 And they're quite good. 149 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,400 I suppose I could look it up for everybody. 150 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,600 You might as well give a shout out. 151 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:25,720 I mean, we don't have any sponsors, so you know that this is unsolicited recommendation, 152 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,200 which sometimes are the best recommendations. 153 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,920 I think Oliver Pluff and Company. 154 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:33,920 Okay. 155 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,560 Yeah, Oliver Pluff and Company. 156 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:39,120 And they make some pretty good teas also. 157 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,480 I got the first one I got from Mount Vernon. 158 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,720 They had the colonial Bowie tea. 159 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:46,720 Okay. 160 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:47,720 And it's kind of smoky. 161 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,720 Very good. 162 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:56,640 Now I've been to a lot of places in the country, but I have never been to either Carolina. 163 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:02,680 And I've heard that kind of both Carolinas, because they've got a lot of coastline too. 164 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:07,520 And I've heard that they're very, very beautiful places to visit. 165 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:14,840 And one of our old coworkers has a family pecan farm out in one of the Carolinas. 166 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Okay. 167 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,440 They're from South Carolina, by the way, not North Carolina. 168 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,280 I'm not sure if I said North. 169 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,280 I don't remember. 170 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,280 I don't remember either. 171 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,560 They're kind of the same thing, like Virginia, West Virginia. 172 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:26,560 It's just Virginia. 173 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:28,440 Well, no, because West Virginia- 174 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,440 Let's not fight. 175 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,800 Weren't a bunch of traders 150 some years ago, 160 years ago, whatever it is now. 176 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:39,640 Well, and I only said that because I knew that both Virginias, we're going to get upset 177 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,640 at that. 178 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:47,520 I think you're going to get more upset about the trader part. 179 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,520 That too. 180 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,080 But I don't know. 181 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,640 I'd like to go visit the Carolinas because you never, I mean, you hear about them sometimes, 182 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:00,120 but it's not really, you know, being from the Midwest, you don't really hear about the 183 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,120 Carolinas a whole lot. 184 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,160 They have some good beaches there. 185 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,160 I know that. 186 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,480 Yeah. 187 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,480 For beach people. 188 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,560 I mean, if I can, if I can drink and sit in the shade, I'm a beach person. 189 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:14,560 Right. 190 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:22,800 I've always wanted to go to one of those resorts in Central America that has an in-house cigar 191 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,800 roller. 192 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Let's do that. 193 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:25,800 Yes. 194 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,800 I've always wanted to do that. 195 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:34,280 All we have to do is bring one of our mics and then that could be a special episode. 196 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,560 We should get that resort to sponsor an episode. 197 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:38,560 We should. 198 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:39,560 We should. 199 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:40,560 Yeah. 200 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:48,280 We can drink rum or whatever the local liquor is, tequila and some cigars. 201 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:55,080 So in between episodes here, I was telling Mike that I discovered my coworker also likes 202 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,280 cigars and I had no idea. 203 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,440 And I was trying to tell him to go and watch the Arnold Schwarzenegger tequila cigar. 204 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,560 And he goes, no, no, no, I've already tried that. 205 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:08,400 And we've tried Brandy and they're both great. 206 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,480 So Mike and I have tried tequila and we tried vodka, which was not great. 207 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,520 We do not recommend vodka. 208 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,280 But Brandy sounds interesting. 209 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,720 And so I think we might have to try a Brandy cigar. 210 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:22,720 Yeah. 211 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:29,400 My favorite Brandy is Osbock Uralt and I think that'd be good. 212 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,720 Yeah. 213 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,040 And I think that's got just enough of the sweetness. 214 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,040 Yes. 215 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,040 Oh yes. 216 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,040 You know what I mean? 217 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:42,920 Like I don't ever, unless you get a flavored vodka, it's not overly sweet. 218 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,920 No. 219 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,200 Tequila's got the sweetness because it's like the agave. 220 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,200 Right. 221 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,080 It's got some taint to it too. 222 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,080 Yeah. 223 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:58,000 It's got a very good flavor profile or whatever for mixing with other things. 224 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:04,120 And I think the Brandy, I think like, and we had been like, I don't know, philosophizing 225 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,280 about this, right? 226 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:10,520 Like which other liquors could we possibly soak our cigars in? 227 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,520 Right. 228 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,800 I remember when I tried whiskey and you were, Oh no. 229 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,680 Well, no, I'm not, Oh no. 230 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:19,760 I think we should. 231 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:26,160 But I think the whiskey might be one where the type of whiskey we pick. 232 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,160 Oh yes. 233 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,040 It's going to be huge. 234 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,760 I think with tequila, you could almost do any tequila and it would be fine. 235 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,760 Right. 236 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,280 We just use the cheap, well, relatively cheap tequila. 237 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,280 Yeah. 238 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:43,400 But I think with whiskey, you really have to pick, you have to be discerning with the 239 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,400 whiskey. 240 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,920 You can't pick like just bottom, bottom shelf. 241 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,680 No, you probably don't want to use screaming Eagle and you probably don't want to pick 242 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:52,640 like a Elay malt either. 243 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:53,640 No. 244 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,080 First real smoky, you know, like I don't know how that goes. 245 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,840 You don't want the PD, earthy, smoky. 246 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,840 Right. 247 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,040 You want something a little lighter probably. 248 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,040 Yep. 249 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,360 Something nice and sweet. 250 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,360 Maybe a Whistler. 251 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,360 That might be all right. 252 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,360 Yeah. 253 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,680 The Whistler might be fine. 254 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:13,080 And they've got a couple of different variations of that too. 255 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,640 Yes. 256 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,640 I got some basil adens at the house now. 257 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,240 We could maybe use if I still around by that time. 258 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,240 Yes. 259 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,280 I mean, I can be there in a couple hours. 260 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,280 So. 261 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,280 Right. 262 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,280 So we'd rum. 263 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,960 I think rum would be good. 264 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:32,960 Yes. 265 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Would you do just the white rum or would you do the spiced? 266 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,880 Oh, I'd do a spiced rum. 267 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:38,880 Yeah. 268 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,880 Yeah. 269 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:40,880 I'd get something good. 270 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,880 Yep. 271 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,480 We can do white rum too, but I think spiced rum would be the ticket. 272 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,480 Yeah. 273 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,680 I think the white rum would be too close to the vodka. 274 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:49,680 Right. 275 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:52,680 And it just wouldn't be, wouldn't be magical. 276 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:53,680 Right. 277 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:54,680 Right. 278 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:56,880 Oh, good white rum has sweetness to it. 279 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,480 But yeah, Bacardi is trash. 280 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Yeah. 281 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:07,880 Except more like the real McCoy or, you know, a real Barbados rum of some kind. 282 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,880 Yes. 283 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,880 But. 284 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:19,480 Not sure how discerning people are on their liquor, but I tend to be fairly picky. 285 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:20,480 Yeah. 286 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:26,640 And what I've heard, and I don't know, it's not necessarily always true. 287 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,120 But what I've heard is, you know, it's kind of like just one of those sayings where there's 288 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,720 a little bit of truth in it. 289 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:40,160 But for the clear liquors, you can be less discerning and you need to be pretty picky 290 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,720 with the brown liquors. 291 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:42,720 Sure. 292 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,560 You know, I mean, a spiced rum is a spiced rum. 293 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,560 Not always. 294 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,040 Not, not always. 295 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,040 Not always. 296 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:58,000 I've had spiced rums that were, had fruit notes and were extremely good, like straight. 297 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,560 Just drinking it was really good. 298 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:06,880 And then I've had clear liquors that are, the Carcob vodka is not good. 299 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,880 No. 300 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,520 But I also think like it depends on what you intend to do with this liquor. 301 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:18,840 Like if you're mixing it, that will play a role in the decision. 302 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Sure. 303 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,080 That is true. 304 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,240 I've gotten away from mixing my liquor at all. 305 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,240 Yeah. 306 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,040 Mr. Whiskey Sour over here. 307 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,040 Well, yeah. 308 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,280 I mean, I like my whiskey sours. 309 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,280 This is like- 310 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,280 Well, who doesn't? 311 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,280 I'm not, I'm not naysaying that. 312 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,280 I'm just saying like, you know. 313 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,920 It's like the way I make, quote unquote, make a whiskey sour at home is I do a shot of whiskey, 314 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,520 a shot of lemon juice, and then just club soda to fill up the rest of the glass. 315 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,560 I put it in a beer glass with ice in it. 316 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:59,360 So it's a, it's definitely a mixed drink, but I'm not putting brown pop in it or something. 317 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,520 Or like three tablespoons of sugar. 318 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Right. 319 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,520 Yeah. 320 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:04,520 There's no sugar. 321 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Or simple syrup is what they use, right? 322 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Yeah. 323 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,520 You can use simple syrup. 324 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,920 I don't have any of mine. 325 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,520 I made them with simple syrup and I don't like it. 326 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,000 I don't like the overly sweet, you know. 327 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,000 Yeah. 328 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,000 If I'm doing like- 329 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,640 I think it should bring the sweetness up enough by itself. 330 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:24,920 If I'm doing a one-off drink, I could do a sweet, you know, like a sweeter, more fruity 331 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,360 drink, but I'm not going to sit there and drink those all day long. 332 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,360 Well, I make a whiskey sour and a vodka sour in the same way. 333 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,120 I just substitute vodka for the whiskey. 334 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,120 Yeah. 335 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:40,920 Well, and I, I tend to prefer the vodka martinis to the gin martinis. 336 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,040 Ah, as do I. 337 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,040 Okay. 338 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,040 As do I. 339 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:50,120 I like gin in sweet drinks, funnily enough, like a smash, you know? 340 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,120 Yeah. 341 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:57,840 I did, I drank when I was in London, I spent a month there on a film internship and I was 342 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,680 there with a New Yorker and we didn't have money really. 343 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:08,680 So we went to this like local, local, local bar, which is no longer there, which makes 344 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,680 me sad. 345 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,600 But it's not like I'm going to be able to go there soon. 346 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:19,160 But we did, we did gin and Coke and that was our mixed drink. 347 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,160 It's cheap. 348 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,440 And it actually didn't taste terrible. 349 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:30,320 So I had a friend in college that used to drink vodka and diet Coke. 350 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:31,320 Okay. 351 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,720 And it was, I mean, it was fine when I was 20. 352 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:35,720 Yeah. 353 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:42,520 Well, that's one of the things is like, it could still be fine now, but it just depends 354 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,520 on the situation. 355 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:51,640 Like if that's all they had or like the super fruity stuff. 356 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,080 Not that, not that the super fruity stuff is bad because of like, you know, masculinity 357 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,800 or anything like that is just, I don't prefer that. 358 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,800 Yeah. 359 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,480 You know, one is more than enough. 360 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:11,560 I, you know, I do enjoy a good mimosa, but I've only ever had, I think one or two of 361 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:12,560 those. 362 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,560 Sure. 363 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,560 I like mimosas. 364 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,560 I like margaritas. 365 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,560 Yeah. 366 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:17,560 Margaritas are good. 367 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:23,560 Do you just get it with the ice or do you get it all blended up? 368 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,600 I like it both ways. 369 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,600 Okay. 370 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:32,960 What I really like is when you use the brand Mariner as the sweetener. 371 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,960 Okay. 372 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:34,960 Yeah. 373 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:40,160 So you have the lime juice and then you have your tequila and you have brand Mariner and 374 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:48,760 that's what sweetens it up is the brand Mariner, not a sugary glob of, you know, strawberries 375 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,760 or something. 376 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,360 Yep. 377 00:18:53,360 --> 00:19:01,200 But that's really, I would consider that as more of a sour, a sweet and sour. 378 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,200 Yes. 379 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:08,120 I like, I like a lot of sours, especially since they do a lot of them with fruit, you 380 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:11,040 know, like it's a fruit, a fruited sour. 381 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,040 Right. 382 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,520 Well, I'm probably halfway. 383 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,520 Oh yeah. 384 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,520 I'm halfway. 385 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,240 Not a lot of flavor change. 386 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,240 Nope. 387 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,240 It's still nutty. 388 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,240 Very good. 389 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,240 Very smooth. 390 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,240 Yeah. 391 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,920 And it started that way. 392 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,640 There really wasn't much hint of bitter at the, at the get go. 393 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:37,360 So this one is, has been a little more consistent, although I appreciated the flavor change in 394 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:38,360 the Cameroon. 395 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:41,000 Kind of the more sweet. 396 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,640 Yes. 397 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,720 I like the flavor change as well, but this is also very good. 398 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,720 Oh yes. 399 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,960 I would not turn my nose up at it for sure. 400 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,960 Absolutely not. 401 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:53,960 Definitely darker. 402 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Yep. 403 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:55,960 Yeah. 404 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:02,000 By, by quite a bit from the Cameroon, even though the wrapper, the wrappers weren't that 405 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000 far off shade wise. 406 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:09,800 No, they looked pretty similar. 407 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,800 The band gave it away. 408 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,800 Yep. 409 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,200 But yes, I, if you were to take the bands off, you could easily mistake them. 410 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,200 Yeah. 411 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,040 I liked both of them so far. 412 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,040 Yeah. 413 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,200 I think it's good. 414 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:35,440 I'm trying to decide like if I had both in the humidor, which one would I grab? 415 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,320 And I think that'll be a question that we can ask at the end when we, when we get there 416 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,320 to the end of the cigar. 417 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,320 Right. 418 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,320 Well, so far they're both good. 419 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,320 They're different, but they're both very good. 420 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,320 Yes. 421 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:52,200 But I'm, I'm thinking about like my personal preferences and your personal preferences. 422 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:57,640 Um, but that maybe we'll come back to that when we're closer to the end of the, of the 423 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:03,680 stick and we'll, we'll try and decipher which of these two, and we've only done the two 424 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,960 so far in the, in the nub series and we've got five more after this. 425 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,400 So it's not definitive until we've smoked them all. 426 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,520 No, no, it's not. 427 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,480 I think we're probably going to like all of them. 428 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,600 Maybe there'll be a dud in there. 429 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,440 Oh, I'm sure we're going to like all of them to some extent. 430 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,440 Right. 431 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,200 There's always a dud somewhere. 432 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,200 Yeah. 433 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,160 They can't even with the Rocky Battelle's. 434 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,160 Yeah. 435 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,160 Oh yeah. 436 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,120 You know, there were some that were like, ah, probably not. 437 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:33,120 Probably not again. 438 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:37,480 Not, not, you know, I'm not going to spend $12 for it. 439 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,480 That's for sure. 440 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,480 Yeah. 441 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,720 If somebody else is like, here, do you want to smoke this? 442 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,720 I'd be like, yeah. 443 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,720 Right. 444 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,800 Um, but that, but they say that about, um, they say that about beer too, right? 445 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,240 Like you can't ever say anything bad about a free beer. 446 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,240 Right. 447 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,240 Yeah. 448 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,240 It's free. 449 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,600 You know, it's, that's just like common, common courtesy, a common etiquette, you know, if 450 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,520 somebody is giving you something, it's not bad. 451 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Right. 452 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,000 I was at a bowling alley. 453 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Shocker. 454 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Oh my God. 455 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,280 You, you went to one of those seedy places, Mike. 456 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,280 I know. 457 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,280 Right. 458 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:20,680 I had a mango cart wheat and I tried that and then I was like, ah, I want something 459 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,680 dark. 460 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,080 So I had them look through and they didn't have a single dark beer. 461 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,080 Okay. 462 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,800 And I was talking to the bar manager. 463 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,560 I'm like, you guys don't have Guinness. 464 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,400 That's like the bud light of dark beer. 465 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:37,000 You know, if you have a fully stocked bar, which is a huge bar, you would think that 466 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:43,760 you had at least one dark beer there as a standard. 467 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:49,360 Every winter that particular alley gets snow drift, which is a Lanning Google's vanilla 468 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:50,360 porter. 469 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,840 And it's a little too sweet. 470 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,840 It's very sweet. 471 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,840 Yeah. 472 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,840 It's good though. 473 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,840 I like it. 474 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,840 I like it. 475 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,840 I do. 476 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,440 I'm glad you like that, Mike. 477 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,440 You don't like it. 478 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,440 A lot of people don't. 479 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,440 I had a, well, I had a huge falling out with Linies. 480 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:15,960 When I first started getting into craft beer after college, I drink a lot of Linies and 481 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,820 then I started branching out and drinking more things. 482 00:23:18,820 --> 00:23:25,480 And what really kind of sealed the last nail in the coffin for me for Linies was I drank 483 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,600 something called like a sunset wheat. 484 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,600 Okay. 485 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,920 And that's what it's called, sunset wheat. 486 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,960 And I drank it and I was like, this tastes like the milk leftover in the bowl after you 487 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,600 eat fruity pebbles. 488 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,360 Yes. 489 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,600 And it was terrible. 490 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,520 Like I felt like I was just drinking the milk. 491 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:52,080 I'm going to keep saying milk for all of our listeners in Oklahoma and South. 492 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:59,840 You can make fun of that pronunciation, but it was, it tasted like that super sugary, 493 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,320 sweet fruity milk. 494 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,320 Yes. 495 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,960 And I don't want that in a beer. 496 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,480 And then ever since I tasted that, I was hypersensitive to all the sweetness they put in all their 497 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,920 beers for most of them. 498 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,760 And you know, Barry Weiss is horrendous. 499 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,760 Oh God. 500 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:22,080 In my opinion, the sub, you know what, the, you know what I, the summer shandy is fine 501 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:27,040 in the summer, but it's gotta be, it's gotta be like an 80 or 90 degree day. 502 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,040 I don't like it. 503 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,040 It's too sweet. 504 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,880 I would, you know what, I would rather drink one of those natter days than a Linies anything. 505 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,880 They're juicy. 506 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,880 Peach is good. 507 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,880 It doesn't really taste like beer though. 508 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,880 It tastes like a, like a peach seltzer. 509 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,880 See, that's the problem. 510 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:45,520 Like if I want a peach seltzer, I'll go buy a peach seltzer. 511 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,720 I don't want it in my beer. 512 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,680 Their grapefruit shandy is pretty good. 513 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,680 Also very sweet. 514 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,480 One of my friend's wives really likes that. 515 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,480 Everything's overly sweet. 516 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,480 It is. 517 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,480 Yeah. 518 00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,480 I mean, I don't like honey Weiss either. 519 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,760 I know that's like border bordering on sacrilegious in this area. 520 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,760 Yeah. 521 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,760 I don't think it tastes like honey. 522 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,760 Well, okay. 523 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,760 Okay. 524 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:14,200 Would you rather drink a spotted cow or honey Weiss? 525 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,240 Probably a spotted cow. 526 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,240 Perfect. 527 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,240 Great. 528 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,240 We can still be friends. 529 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,240 Yeah. 530 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,240 Probably a spotted cow. 531 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,240 I would say spotted cow every time pretty much. 532 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,240 Yeah. 533 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,400 I recently had a honey Weiss for the first time in years and it was on tap at the lot. 534 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,400 Yeah. 535 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,400 When we went to the Linus Lodge. 536 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,400 Yeah. 537 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,600 I mean, it's cool to go there, but everything they have is like overly sweet and that's 538 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,640 kind of what they've like dug their heels in. 539 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,640 And that's- 540 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,080 I like their, they used to call it creamy dark and now they call it whatever dark. 541 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,480 It's kind of a lighter dark beer, like a medium body beer. 542 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,480 And I like it. 543 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,680 That was the first dark beer I tried that I liked when I was younger. 544 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,900 I'm not opposed to like drinking a Linus here and there, but I'm not ever going to go buy 545 00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:58,760 a six pack. 546 00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,760 You know what I mean? 547 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,760 I don't think- 548 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,760 Sure. 549 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,480 Well, I don't buy the snow drift and bring it home. 550 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,920 I only drink it at this one bowling alley that I know is going to have it on tap. 551 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,920 Okay. 552 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,920 Yeah. 553 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:12,920 You know what I'm saying? 554 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:13,920 Well, and on tap is different. 555 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,920 Yes. 556 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:21,320 You know, if I had the opportunity to drink a Linus on tap first in the can or bottle, 557 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,320 it'll be on tap. 558 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,320 Right. 559 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,920 But I'm not buying it to bring home, like you said, you know? 560 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,920 Yeah, no. 561 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,920 I like Guinness. 562 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,920 I buy Guinness and bring it home. 563 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:30,920 I like Guinness a lot. 564 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,920 Oh yeah. 565 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,920 Guinness is great. 566 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,920 And even their Harp Lager is good. 567 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,920 Yeah. 568 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,920 I like Harp. 569 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,920 I like Smidtichs. 570 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,920 Oh, Smidtichs is great. 571 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,920 Yeah. 572 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,920 Smidtichs is good. 573 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,920 Yep. 574 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:46,640 I'm a big fan of the snake bite, which I guess there's a lot of different versions of a snake 575 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,840 bite, but it's half Guinness and half Magners as far as I'm open. 576 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,840 As far as- 577 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,840 Okay. 578 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,840 I learned the term. 579 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,040 I know that there's a shot called a snake bite. 580 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,040 Yeah. 581 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:01,920 But what I mean is a layered drink with Magners and Guinness. 582 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,640 And I like black and tan. 583 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,480 Oh yes, me too. 584 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,560 Have you tried the Killian's Irish Red? 585 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,280 Yes, I've had Killian's. 586 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,280 Okay. 587 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,280 That's pretty good. 588 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,920 I didn't like it the first time I tried it. 589 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,000 It's totally not an Irish beer though. 590 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Right. 591 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,160 I had a, my roommate in college was huge. 592 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:26,600 He had a huge Irish boner for all things Irish and that was the only beer he would drink. 593 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,520 I mean, he would drink Guinness and Smidtichs, but Killian's was cheaper and it was called 594 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,520 Irish Red. 595 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,520 So he loved it. 596 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,960 And he drank Irish breakfast tea. 597 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,400 Yes. 598 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:46,760 So we went, and I think I had mentioned briefly on the last episode that we went to Wisconsin. 599 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,760 Yes. 600 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:54,880 For my brother's baby shower and we stopped in this brewery and I did some research because 601 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,880 we were like, okay, we got to go there. 602 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:05,680 We got to get back because my wife's mom was here watching Vivian and she wanted to leave 603 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,680 that night yet. 604 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,440 And so it's a three and a half hour drive there and three and a half hour drive back. 605 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,320 So we spent seven hours in the car and we were like, oh, we got to find some breweries 606 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,880 on the way back so we can hit like a brewery on the way back. 607 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:25,160 And I found this one that was really highly rated called the Lazy Monk in Eau Claire, 608 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,160 Wisconsin. 609 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,320 Okay. 610 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Not impressed. 611 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,320 Not impressed. 612 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,320 Not impressed. 613 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,320 We tried three different beers there. 614 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,320 You know, between the two of us. 615 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,320 The Monk was a little too lazy. 616 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,320 Yeah. 617 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,320 And that's what I was telling, telling my buddies. 618 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,800 I'm like, yeah, we stopped there and the beers really weren't that good. 619 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,920 And he goes, well, it's a Lazy Monk if he would have been, you know, even just an average 620 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,640 really performing Monk, it probably would have been good beer. 621 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:59,500 So you know, you can't always trust the reviews online, but they were dog friendly. 622 00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:00,500 So that was kind of nice. 623 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:03,500 A lot of them are. 624 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:04,500 Yeah. 625 00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:07,580 Not the one, not the one downtown Robbinsdale. 626 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:09,600 They're not anything friendly. 627 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,600 They hate the community. 628 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:19,400 We actually got kicked out of the brewery when Vivian was six weeks old. 629 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:25,160 We walked down there with her in the stroller and we sat out on the patio and Sarah and 630 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,520 I had a beer and they came out and they're like, you need to go sit under the giant circus 631 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,940 tent in the parking lot. 632 00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:34,680 You can't sit on our patio. 633 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,680 And I'm like, she's six weeks old. 634 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,560 You think she's going to try and steal my beer? 635 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,880 So not, not family friendly. 636 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,840 They don't want dogs. 637 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,760 They hate the community and throw other things. 638 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,440 I wanted to make that joke, but I wasn't sure if that's how it was going to be. 639 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,560 No miners on the porch. 640 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,560 Yeah. 641 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,560 Yep. 642 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,400 That is how they are. 643 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,960 And it sucks because they're within walking distance and we just, we can't go there because 644 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,760 it's not, it's not fun. 645 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:16,520 And our daughter is very, very well behaved for a two year old, especially when you go 646 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,800 out in public. 647 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,340 And I just brought her two half rice books tonight because she wanted to go book shopping. 648 00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:25,840 And so we went and you know, they've got a nice little kids area in the back where they 649 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,560 can pick out their board books and look at the stuffed animals and things like that. 650 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,480 Very well behaved, better, better behaved than some of the adult patrons in there. 651 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,560 I'll tell you that. 652 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,160 But I can't bring her to this brewery. 653 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,480 That's, you know, within walking distance from my house. 654 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,360 So I hate them. 655 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,360 I hate them now. 656 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:50,880 For the listeners who are not from Minnesota, you can bring children in any bar or liquor 657 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,800 store and they don't care. 658 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,800 It's not against the law. 659 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,480 Oh no, it's not a state thing. 660 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,480 It's up to the establishment. 661 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,040 It's up to the establishment. 662 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,040 So how big a dick does the establishment want to be here? 663 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,040 Right. 664 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:08,120 In the state of North Dakota, children cannot go into bars or liquor stores period. 665 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:14,480 In the state of Wisconsin, where I'm from, shout out the cheese. 666 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,720 You can drink at any age in a bar as long as your parents is with you and tells the 667 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,160 bartender it's okay. 668 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,160 That's awesome. 669 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,640 Yes. 670 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,960 You know, and I'm not going to give Vivian beer. 671 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,960 Right. 672 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,960 Right. 673 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,960 You know, probably at least not till she's. 674 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:41,720 15, 16, somewhere in there, but to not even be able to go into a place because she's not 675 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,200 a legal drinking age, it's kind of a huge downer. 676 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,360 Right. 677 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:52,960 And I understand you don't want those poorly behaved children running amok. 678 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,520 And you know, like in restaurants, you get these kids and they're like tearing all over 679 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,800 the restaurant and you're just like silently hoping that they trip and fall and have to 680 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,000 leave. 681 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,320 Or you like physically trip them and then blame it on the chair or the waiter or something. 682 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:15,040 But that's not, that's not, that's not our family, you know, if you have a well behaved 683 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,560 child, what's the big deal? 684 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,440 It's no different than going to a restaurant really. 685 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,440 Right. 686 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,440 Yeah. 687 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:28,960 Well, there's a lot of bars in Minnesota that have video games and pool tables and stuff. 688 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,360 They're intended for kids to play. 689 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,360 Yes. 690 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,360 And their parents to drink. 691 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,360 Basically. 692 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,360 And that's fine. 693 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,360 You know, and there's good money in that. 694 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,360 Yeah, of course. 695 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,360 You know, they usually serve food and. 696 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,360 Yep. 697 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,360 It's perfectly okay. 698 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,800 You know, but yeah, like North Dakota, they have to separate the bar. 699 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,280 If it's a restaurant bar. 700 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,280 Okay. 701 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,440 You have to separate those two out and the kids can't come into the bar. 702 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,040 So the bar area has only adults, it's actually kind of nice. 703 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,040 Yeah. 704 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,040 To a certain extent. 705 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,680 Well, and, and, and that's great too. 706 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,920 You know, like if you have babysitters and stuff. 707 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,040 Oh, they usually have a section that's not. 708 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,040 No. 709 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,240 Not the bar. 710 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,240 I know that. 711 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,520 I'm just saying like, you know, Vivian was born at the very, very start of the pandemic. 712 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,520 Right. 713 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:26,200 So we don't have the same, you know, do you call it a black book if it's babysitters? 714 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,200 Sure. 715 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,860 I don't know. 716 00:33:28,860 --> 00:33:36,680 We don't have the same like Rolodex of babysitters as parents that had kids prior to the pandemic 717 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:42,720 because there was nobody and you didn't want anybody in your house at the very start of 718 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,720 the pandemic. 719 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:49,040 So we don't have that same babysitter network and we like going places with her, you know, 720 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:57,520 so when, when Sarah and I do have the babysitter or one of her grandparents here watching, 721 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,760 then yes, we'd love to go to places where there's no other kids. 722 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,760 Sure. 723 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,560 But I think, you know, if you have well-behaved children, you should be able to go wherever 724 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:14,080 you want and legally you can, but it's up to the establishment here in Minnesota. 725 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,400 And a lot of kids aren't well-behaved and I understand that too. 726 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:25,360 I have about an inch left and my cigar is turning sour. 727 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,360 It is. 728 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,360 It's very sour. 729 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,360 Yeah. 730 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,360 Mine is turning sour. 731 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,120 I think that, uh, it's not the flavor change I was hoping for. 732 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,360 No, it was good until you got just sour right at the end. 733 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,360 Yes. 734 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,360 I like the other one. 735 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,360 The other one lasted longer though. 736 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,360 It did. 737 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,360 It did. 738 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,800 The other one was much better overall. 739 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,800 I agree. 740 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,240 But I think this is probably it for this one. 741 00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:55,920 Yeah, you know, I mean, there's a lot more left to smoke if I wanted to subject myself 742 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,920 to it. 743 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,920 Yes. 744 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,920 Which is kind of sad. 745 00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:59,920 Yeah. 746 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,440 It's, it's a testament to this one. 747 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,880 I don't, I don't think this is a full on dead though. 748 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:11,040 No, no, the first three quarters was very good. 749 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,040 Very good. 750 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,520 And then instantly it was like a switch turned. 751 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,120 You said that we must be, we must be evenly matched on smoking this one because I just 752 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,280 put it down and then you said, Oh yeah, mine's getting sour. 753 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,480 And I was like, that's why I put mine down. 754 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:29,800 Um, I haven't like, you know, tapped it out yet, but I'm going to let it sit there, uh, 755 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:30,800 for a minute. 756 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,680 But, uh, I think so far the Cameroon- 757 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,480 I'm holding it, but I am not smoking it. 758 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,280 I think the Cameroon is better than the Habano so far. 759 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,920 Yes. 760 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,920 I would agree. 761 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,800 But, uh, no, this is bad. 762 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,160 No, it's not bad. 763 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,160 Cameroon was better. 764 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,160 It's good. 765 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,160 The Cameroon is better. 766 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,160 Yup. 767 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,160 Okay. 768 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,520 Say I, I think I'm starting to shy more towards the lighter cigars. 769 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,000 I still like the dark ones too. 770 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000 It's not bad. 771 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Oh man. 772 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,040 There's some really great dark ones we smoked. 773 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:12,480 But I, I almost wonder because like, I wonder if it's easier to make a great lighter cigar. 774 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,240 I don't know. 775 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,280 Cause there's a lot more oil in a darker cigar. 776 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,280 That's true. 777 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,720 Um, and that oil builds up and it just, it just turns sour. 778 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:26,120 You know, that's like the Winston Churchill effect, right? 779 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,520 Like he never smoked in past half. 780 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,520 Yeah. 781 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,520 Supposedly. 782 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:36,120 Well, he also had the disposable income to not smoke them past half. 783 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,120 So right. 784 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,120 Yeah. 785 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,120 Oh yeah. 786 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,120 Yes, he did. 787 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,160 But not everybody gets to have champagne for lunch. 788 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,640 That is true. 789 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,280 As destructive as that would be. 790 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,280 This one's decent. 791 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,760 Uh, but the Cameroon is better so far. 792 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,000 Uh, tune in next time for the next nub. 793 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:12,680 What makes a packgoat so all the gray, dry � of it orviq what makes it so dry?