Welcome to Nice Dashes.
I'm Mike.
And I'm Nate.
So what are we smoking today, Nate?
We are starting our Nub series.
And Nub is what?
Just the brand name of the cigar, right?
Nub is the series.
I believe that these are Olivia's.
Okay.
And we're starting with the Nub Cameroon.
Yes.
We have seven of them, I want to say.
I'll double check that before we commit to the number.
Yes, there's some number greater than two, probably less than ten.
We have seven.
Yes, and the Nubs are by, I'm pretty sure the Nubs are by Olivia.
Awesome.
They're good.
Nubs are kind of their own, oh, Olivia.
I thought it was Olivia.
That's the name of my niece.
Oh yeah.
One of my nieces.
So yeah, we're going to start her off with the Nub Cameroon.
You can get these bushel packs from Pipes and Cigars for a pretty reasonable price given
the expense of the stick.
On this wrapper is a little bit lighter.
I wouldn't go full on to call it a Connecticut, but it's not quite as dark as a Maduro.
It is firmly in the medium category.
And it's got good draw off the bat.
Yes.
This is a four inch cigar, very girthy.
Yes.
They have the reputation of being a four inch cigar that smokes like a six inch cigar per
length.
Yes.
So I'm sure you can hear the third podcaster in the background.
She's getting very excited.
She loves podcast day.
She does.
She loves every day.
Well, why wouldn't you?
As a dog.
Right.
Well, two of the cats decided they wanted to hang out with us.
Perfect.
So, we got a dog and two cats.
I would say the first couple of pops, it tastes fairly medium.
Yep.
Nice, good flavor, but medium.
We'll see.
I had a number four, I think.
Pretty sure that we got one at Tobacco Grove a while ago.
Yes.
And I had one too.
I think that one was just like blonde or something, the one that I got.
I'm not sure.
I'd have to go look.
I could be way off.
I tried a couple of puffs off of one that was a Cameroon.
By someone we both know.
Let me try their cigar.
You know them better than I do.
That is interesting.
Yes.
They are a big fan of the Nubs.
How do I know them better?
I don't know anybody that smokes cigars.
Yes you do.
You're related to them, kind of.
My brother?
By marriage.
Oh, okay.
So my brother?
Oh no wait, that's the queen, sorry.
I heard the best theory ever on how Queen Elizabeth died.
I'm not sure how many of our listeners are followers of Gale Cor Schuller, but she's
an internet lullcow and she's hilarious.
She's got all kinds of theories about all sorts of wonderful things.
The one about Queen Elizabeth was that she died having sex with a horse.
It's a very long story.
I'm not going to get into it.
If anybody wants to find out the truth behind the Queen's death, it involves Prince Andrew
and a horse and blood thinners.
Okay, and also if that boy returns, that's on page two.
I did see some pretty funny memes because of course being the head monarch of a colonial
country that has given everybody an Independence Day, which is the one holiday most countries
share in the world, independence from Britain.
There are people on both sides of the spectrum, some are very sad to see her have passed.
This will be a couple of weeks after the fact, but that's what has most recently happened
in the news.
Some are happy that she passed.
One of the ones that I saw that was pretty funny was listing a bunch of Queen Elizabeth's
good things.
The last one was Anne being a good cousin to her husband, because they are third cousins
or were.
Well, they're definitely inbreeders.
Inbreeders and petal protectors.
I thought Prince Andrew's involvement with the Queen's death in Galecord Shuler's version
of events was quite hilarious.
I'm not sure if she quite caught on to that, but it was pretty good all the same.
So outside of royal families that are really just figureheads and nothing more, what do
you want to talk about tonight?
Well, I figured we'd talk about Don of Encerife.
Oh yeah, let's do that.
I tried to get my Sarah in on the action.
It's a tough sell, dude.
I tried to get my...
Tough sell.
That's what she said.
Literally.
Why do you want me on this podcast so bad?
Oh, I thought it.
I was saying tough sell to actually watching Don of Encerife.
Oh, she loves it.
I told her that you didn't like it.
She was like, what?
Okay.
Let's set the stage a little bit, Mike.
I grew up watching John Wayne movies with my dad and grandpa, and we watched primarily
all of John Wayne's cowboy movies, Western flicks.
And we would dabble occasionally into his war flicks, but we were pretty firmly in the
Westerns.
So True Grit and The Searchers, Big Jake, Sons of Katie Elder.
Angel and the Bad Man, great one.
North to Alaska.
I don't think I've seen that one.
Okay.
I should watch that.
Then Rio Grande, Rio Bravo, and Rio Lobo.
And two of those are the same film, but with different people.
I mean, John Wayne's in both.
Right.
Let's see, Man Who Shot Liberty Valance and The Shootist.
I mean, there's more.
The Shootist.
The train robbers.
I've seen almost all of those films other than North to Alaska.
And then, so my first exposure to Donovan's Reef was when I was in high school and my
parents and grandparents were watching it and I just couldn't get into it.
And so I left and did something else in grandpa's basement, which sounds super sketch, but it
really wasn't.
But he had cable so I could go watch whatever I wanted.
And then Mike was telling me that it was one of his favorite John Wayne movies.
And so I said that I would watch it again and give it another shot.
And so, you know, I did.
And I still don't like it.
But I'm excited to kind of get into why because it's not just like a, I don't know, there's
reasons is all I'll say.
Sure.
So I generally like John Wayne films, but I really like his non-traditional Western
films.
I'm not a big fan of traditional Western films.
I'm more of a spaghetti Western kind of guy.
So I like McClintock and some of the more absurd works that he's done, which I would
consider Donovan's Reef in there, The Quiet Man's in there.
You know, both as a Branigan where he's a detective.
I like The Shootist because it kind of turns the whole Western genre upside down, especially
for a John Wayne film.
Well, and that's why I like The Searchers so much because for, and have you seen that
one?
Yes, I have.
For that one, like for, I don't know, three quarters of the movie at least, or maybe more,
3.8 out of four is of the movie.
You think John Wayne is the bad guy and he's going to straight up shoot his niece.
And it's not till the very end.
So for him to play a bad guy at all is for that era, even if you're a big major movie
star hero, like that's fairly rare because back then you got typecast a lot into the
hero slash villain.
Absolutely.
So I like that one a lot and the cinematography is great.
That's also a John Ford.
John's Reef is a John Ford?
Yep.
Have you ever seen Iron Sky?
Yeah.
Yes.
I like that one a lot too.
Wait, is that the one with John Wayne?
Are you talking like the 2017?
No, no, the one with John Wayne.
Oh, okay.
Nope.
I've seen the one with Nazis on the Moon, which also is a great movie.
Maybe it's not Iron Sky.
I own the film.
I can tell you.
Okay.
I thought it was Iron Sky.
It's a World War II deployment or World War II pilots that are dropping off payloads of
supplies and they get, the plane comes down.
Okay.
I know like Sansi and Jima.
Island in the Sky.
Oh, Island in the Sky.
Island in the Sky.
Okay.
Yeah, and their plane goes down in the Arctic Circle and they all go insane.
Oh.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
One guy starts going crazy and like wanders off into nowhere.
It's actually interesting, especially for a John Wayne movie.
I don't think I've ever seen this one.
Yes, Island in the Sky.
It came out in theaters and then they never released it on DVD until we were enrolled,
until I was in high school.
You probably were in high school too.
That's probably why I've never seen it because my grandfather had all of it on VHS and then
he just totally converted his collection to DVD.
Yes.
Yeah.
I watched it on AMC.
It was the first screening of the movie in like, you know, hominid of the years.
But it came out right before The Flying Tigers and The Flying Tigers just kind of like sank
it because it's kind of negative.
Or it's a psychological movie, which wasn't popular at the time.
Yeah.
And not really in John Wayne's fan's wheelhouse.
Right.
That's, they were popular.
They just weren't popular for John Wayne.
Yeah.
And you had a lot of Hitchcock films out at that time and those were mostly psychological
thrillers.
Right.
I mean, some were borderline kind of more of your straight up horror, but they're all
kind of have that psychological who's the killer kind of vibe to them.
So but when you go to a John Wayne movie, you're expecting, you know, six shooters and rains
in the teeth and swearing at people.
So right.
My dad calls it the John Wayne gun, which is a single action cold that never runs out
of bullets.
Yes.
I like the John Wayne rifle, which is the Henry rifle with the oval lever that he can
swing while he's riding on horseback to reload.
Even at 65 or 70 years old.
Yes.
And he was a former CGI, so you know, he was really doing it.
Yes.
Yeah, he was.
Was he hitting whatever he was aiming at?
Probably not.
But I'm guessing that's the movie magic.
Right.
So let me just upfront say that I was fairly excited about rewatching Donovan's Reef.
Even though I had such a negative thing coming into it, but I really enjoy Lee Marvin.
Yes.
Okay.
And the other thing is, in the end, I gave it a six out of 10.
So I won't say that I hated it.
You know, it's not a not a hate, but it's probably more of like, I'd watch it if, you
know, you liquored me up and we're like, Hey, do you want to watch Donovan's Reef?
Sure, Mike.
I'll watch Donovan's Reef with you.
But I'm not really going to go seek it out.
And here's why.
And this is maybe the biggest reason why is it starts on Lee Marvin on a boat and he punches
the captain and dives off.
And it's like, okay.
And then for the next 45 minutes, I was trying to figure out what the hell John Wayne's character's
name is because they call him three or four different things, but never twice in a row.
So I wasn't quite sure.
Yes.
Which is his rank in anything, but you don't hear him.
And Michael, I think is his first name.
Yep.
Michael.
Yep.
So they've got like a slew of nicknames and they've got a slew of other names, first names,
last names that they call him.
And it was just very confusing to try and figure out what his name was and was he actually
the owner of the bar and where all of this free beer was coming from underneath the bar.
Because they go into the bar and everybody-
All the cigarettes that they throw under the ground and bottles of beer that they break
are ridiculous.
It's a comedy.
It's supposed to be farcical.
I view it as a farcical movie.
I also think it's hilarious that John Wayne is as old as the actor playing the father
of the love interest.
He's clearly number one, he's too old to be a World War II vet in what year was it?
1963.
He's too old.
But I-
Because you had told me that and after I watched it, I like to do the trivia.
So I read the trivia on the movie and apparently, and this, I don't know if this is a hundred
percent sure or not or if this is what John Wayne's estate wants us to believe, but apparently
John Wayne petitioned to have a more age appropriate actress play opposite him.
And he was very uncomfortable having to play the main love interest to this woman.
I have heard that also and I did not look up trivia.
My mother told me that way back when.
So I don't know, but that was a little weird.
And then there were some funny bits, but I think if they would have spent just a little
more time on, I don't know, character development, just at the beginning, I don't need it to
be a three hour movie, Zack Snyder cut of anything, but just a little bit more like
setup would make all of the jokes and everything else a lot funnier.
But what I also heard or read on the trivia was that John Ford was very sick at the time
of filming this.
And that was actually, I think his last film that he made.
So John Wayne, I guess, stepped in to direct somewhere around the 50% of the movie.
Because if you watch Donovan's Reef compared to any other John Ford film, it just does
not have the same cinematography or the things that you would look for in a John Ford film
that you've seen in all of the John Ford films.
And here you are in the tropical Hawaii or whatever island they claimed it was.
Yeah, Halo, Lala Kaua or something like that.
And you don't really get any of the great John Ford vistas.
And I know it's a comedy farce, but you can still do some amazing things with your location.
But I think that was over on my biggest gripe is it took me so long to figure out are Lee
Marvin and John Wayne actually friends?
Are they not friends?
What is John Wayne's name in this movie?
And is it actually his bar?
And of course it is.
Donovan's Reef is the name of the bar and his name is Donovan, but you don't find that
out until halfway through the movie.
So it's kind of as just somebody coming in and not being very familiar with it.
And maybe it's one of those movies where upon repeat viewings, it gets better and better.
But I tell you, this first rewatch that I did, I was fairly confused on characters and
what was going on.
So well, full disclosure, I've seen this movie many times.
So I know the story, I guess.
And like I say, I think that the farce is hilarious.
No, it's enjoyable.
Right.
A lot of the jokes are relevant to film of that time because, you know, Miss LaFleur,
who was Lee Marvin's girlfriend, is a terrible singer, but she's played by Dorothy Lamour,
who was with Bing Crosby and what the hell is his name?
A Bob Hope in all those damn movies that they did.
Oh yeah, like White Christmas.
So she's a real professional singer.
A very good professional singer.
I heard that the one, one of the songs that she sang that wasn't very good, she had like
a throat thing and they didn't want to bother reshooting it or something.
So they kind of played it off or whatever.
Yeah.
She's like just trash.
And then I also read that they did a script rewrite and they wrote out a lot of Lee Marvin's
dialogue and interaction with John Wayne in favor of playing up the romance portion of
it.
Right.
Well, you also have to remember Lee Marvin is the appropriate age to be a World War II
vet and John Wayne is not.
Yes.
John Wayne is 15 years older than Lee Marvin.
Now, wasn't this one of Lee Marvin's first films or not first films, but maybe more top
billing or something?
Yeah, I don't know.
Let's check here.
Cause I know he was in Paint Your Wagon with Clint Eastwood, which is a fantastic Western
slash musical slash comedy slash drama.
It's a long one, but it's really good.
That's one of those, it's a really weird movie because the woman, the love interest in that
movie is, is she actually Mormon or is she just open to multiple men?
And so they both, Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood have to like share their wife.
So you can already tell that it's not your standard kind of John Wayne-esque with the
puritanical rules Western.
Right.
And I like Lee Marvin as the scoundrel.
And I don't know.
I like it.
And Cesar Romero is a scoundrel.
They're all scoundrels basically, other than John Wayne, who's like playing John Wayne.
Well, he's a reformed scoundrel.
Cause they talk about scoundrel days, which he tries to hide from the love interest in
Donovan's Reef.
And, and then they go up and they had that big monument, which he was trying to like
hush hush too.
Right.
Well, yeah.
And the whole hook of the story is that they're trying to pretend that the children are his
and not her father's.
Yes.
Because they're from a different, a different marriage because her mother died.
She doesn't know about it.
Yes.
And so he fell in love with a Hawaiian woman or whatever.
I don't know if Hawaiian is the right term.
I know like Polynesian.
Okay.
Perfect.
Not meant to be racist in any way, shape or form.
Well, they filmed the movie in Hawaii, but it's based in French Polynesia.
Okay.
Yep.
So speaking of French Polynesia, this Cameroon is halfway done.
And I think it's getting a little bit sweeter.
I think it's sweet and it's very smooth.
Very pleasant.
It is very smooth.
Very nice.
I wanted to make sure we talked about it because typically on the show, if it's a really good
cigar, we don't really talk about it, you know, because it's like, oh, it's so good.
But you know, it kind of lubricates the conversation as it.
A little bit of bitterness that was there at the beginning, which is always there at
the beginning of the cigar.
Yes.
It's melted away.
It's become a little lighter in taste because of that sweetness, I think.
And because the bitterness kind of faded away.
Yes.
And it is very lovely.
Quite lovely.
Yes.
But you know, I don't, I would say that I actively dislike Donovan's Reef.
I think there were maybe a few things that could have been done that would have made
it better.
Right.
I think a lot of the comedy is based on the actors playing the roles, you know, because
they're all famous.
Cesar Romero is famous.
Oh, yeah.
Lamar is famous.
And they're just being kind of farcical based on their stereotypes.
All other than John Wayne.
Yes.
And it's like stupid little, it's just like joke, joke, joke, joke, joke.
Yeah.
There's not really a need for a lot of background information, you know.
No.
I think it is one of those ones where when I watch it again, not if, but you know, the
next time that I watch it, I think I'll find it much more enjoyable having gone through
it the first time.
Right.
You know what I mean?
I think one of my favorite ones where it's funny, like it's funny.
Well, both of them actually is True Grit and Rooster Cogburn.
Because John Wayne plays kind of like a drunk cowboy.
And you know, in the first one, I can't remember the name of the woman that plays the, you
know, in the movie, she's like a child that kind of like hires John Wayne to go get revenge.
And she keeps calling him like a washed up old fat man.
And then at the end of that film, he actually like jumps his horse over the fence, like
he'd been claiming the whole time.
And then, and I think it's in that one.
I can't remember if it's in that one or Rooster Cogburn where he's drunk and falls off his
horse and then he's like, we'll camp here tonight.
You know?
Yes.
I remember that.
But then, man, him playing a drunk belligerent cowboy against Catherine Hepburn was some
of the funniest stuff ever, I think.
Yeah.
Well, John Wayne was a good actor.
He gets a lot of heat.
Because his early films were basically all just the same movie a hundred times.
Yeah.
Well, he started out as singing Sandy, the singing cowboy, and he can't sing.
Right.
He did play a good scoundrel several times.
Most of the movies that are really good.
Even Big Jake, he's a scoundrel.
You know, total son of a bitch.
You know what movie is really good?
Is The Cowboys.
And that is, I'm trying to remember the, let's see.
And man, the bad guy in that one is just nasty.
Just nasty.
It is, I'm pulling it up here.
Sorry.
I'm so bad at names.
It's Bruce Stern.
Yeah, well, Bruce Stern is one of the all time great baddies in Hollywood.
He's a very young Bruce Stern and he's just nasty.
But that movie has pretty much everything you want.
It's got humor.
It's got John Wayne being a badass.
It's got heart, emotion, really good underrated flick, I think.
It wasn't underrated at the time, but nowadays when you say, hey, do you want to go watch
a John Wayne movie?
They're like, no, I hate the patriarchy or something like, you know, like it's almost
not socially acceptable.
He's a man of a different era.
So like his political views are definitely not acceptable now.
No, and even some of the movies, right?
They're not politically correct in a lot of the movies he's in.
No.
You know?
And it was kind of that I know, so I know in like film, they've got like black, black
exploitation, you know, films that exploit black people.
I don't know if they have a term for, I mean, I'm sure it's the same thing.
It's like, you know, indigenous exploitation films or something like that.
But you know, I mean, there's a whole genre of those films out there.
But I don't see many people like celebrating those as much as like the, the black exploitation
films of the seventies, even though Tarantino has done a couple, a couple, you know, Western
esque films like Django is great.
Right.
Which is borderline black exploitation also.
Yes.
Although the black person is the protagonist.
Right.
Well, I mean, all the black, all the black exploitation films that I have seen, most
of the characters are black, including the antagonist, you know, like black, everybody's
black and black.
The best, well, not the best, but like the original Night of the Living Dead was groundbreaking
for having the black man survive.
Right.
And he was, no, he died.
Nope.
He was the only one that got out.
I thought that he was shot by the police when they showed up.
No, he got out of the, he got out.
He got out of there.
Really?
See, I thought that he survived and then the cops showed up and they shot him.
I don't think so.
I thought that was like the, he was the hero that tried to keep everybody alive.
And he survived.
And that was, I remember talking about that.
You see your Night of the Living Dead, right?
Yep.
And I'm looking up another one, another, another movie that I wanted to talk about here real
quick, just, just like as an in passing thing.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure that I'm going to look to see the synopsis.
Okay.
But I'm pretty sure he died horribly, horribly.
Because he was the hero.
Definitely a hero.
Plot.
Yeah, Ben emerges from the cellar, but is shot and killed and then mistaken for a ghoul.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Sorry, everybody.
He was the only one that survived.
And then the cops showed up, the white cops showed up and killed him.
So still.
There's another movie and I'm having trouble.
I can never really, never really remember what the name of this is.
But they all kind of, it's like an 80s movie, right?
Like an 80s horror movie.
And they all go to this house, you know, because you went and watched a movie with Luke and
myself and we've seen a lot of movies.
So we can really, oh, I think this is it.
So we can really call a movie, right?
We know the tropes.
And I think this is it.
I'm pretty sure.
I think it is called House of the Demon.
Or no, Night of the Demons.
Sorry, Night of the Demons.
And all these people show up at this house and it gets really wild because it's an 80s
horror film.
That man, the people we thought were going to walk out of that house alive were not the
people that walked out of that house alive.
So we both really enjoyed it.
Not that it's a great film, but we just enjoyed it because it kept us guessing.
Right?
Like it's one of, you know, it's a cliche 80s horror film.
But if you can keep the film people guessing, like you're doing something right.
Right.
Well, that's like, we just finished up Stargate SG-1 and we're doing Atlantis and we're watching
them all on order.
They appeared on television and there's definitely a formula.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it's enjoyable when they break the formula in an unexpected way, which happens less often
than is desirable.
But yeah, I was going to say like a lot of modern films or not films, but like a lot
of more recent, you know, 2000 onward TV shows got very formulaic, very fast.
I'm thinking, I'm thinking Lost and I'm thinking House MD.
I'm thinking Dexter.
All of these are shows that I never actually finished through to the final season because
they got so formulaic that it just, it wasn't interesting.
And I just, I really didn't end up caring because they weren't doing anything to drive
anything forward.
I didn't finish at Vikings for the very same reason.
Okay.
The show Vikings.
I've heard of it.
I've never watched it.
Oh, you know, the first season is good.
The second season's okay.
Every single season gets worse and worse and worse.
And it ends up being like, I left the show when it was like one of the major characters
who was the son of the major character suddenly magically became not the son of the former
major character.
He's like the son of this other guy.
And it's like, all right, there's all this sexual intrigue in the show already.
That's like, is there any legitimate children born to any of these fucking women ever?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That is not how reality works.
It's breaking my belief in the show.
And we talked about this before when you go back and you retcon something.
And you go back and we talked about with Dr. Who and even Star Wars, they go back and they
say, well, actually what you watched five seasons ago, that's not true.
We've got the new truth here or something.
Like they're the new, whatever it is, they do that sometimes in these things.
And they think for whatever reason, they think that it's like a great writing gimmick, but
it's really just a gimmick and it sucks ass.
Like it's lazy.
And then it makes your viewers wonder if the writers have even watched the show sometimes.
Like if you go back and you retcon something and you're like, yeah, but there are all these
great things that you're kind of undoing by doing this.
Right.
They think, oh, it's going to be a big twist, like a soap opera twist.
Well, keep that stuff in the soap operas because we're actually intelligent viewers and we're
keeping track of what's happening.
You can't go back and then you say, okay, but then if I know this and go back and watch
that one episode, that meant a lot to me.
Now it means nothing because this is no longer true.
So yeah, the soap opera twist is pathetic.
It's like a professional wrestling twist.
Yeah.
Most adults do not watch professional wrestling for a reason.
Instead of the chair, he's going to grab the ladder.
Okay.
Oh no, it's like, no, I know.
Yeah.
I mean, it's so stupid.
It's like, oh yeah, there's a few good twists out there that we all know about in professional
wrestling specifically, but I stopped watching professional wrestling when I was in seventh
grade or something like that for a reason.
Yeah.
I never really watched it.
I had some friends, I think in elementary school that watched it and they were pretty
gung ho about it.
Oh, that was the attitude to WCW era.
It was very popular.
But that's kind of the target audience is elementary school children.
Right.
Yeah.
Teenage boys.
And younger.
Yes.
Or men that have hair that's longer in the back than in the front.
Yes.
I resemble that remark.
But you don't have a mullet.
You've got gorgeous locks.
Not a mullet.
I do.
It's all along.
Even though I did trim my beard again, nice and tight.
Yep.
I'm getting to that stage now.
It's a beautiful, beautiful day here in Minnesota.
But it's getting to that point where it's like, I'm going to start growing the beard,
the winter beard.
I'm not going to let it get as long as I did during COVID.
That was ridiculous.
It got to the point where I couldn't even fucking eat.
And everybody loves to eat.
I know I do.
Everybody loves to eat.
Yeah.
Nobody wants their beard hair coming up into their mouth.
Mine, so I'm at a little less than an inch and it's starting to get a bit bitter on me.
Oh, wow.
See, I have an inch and a half.
I kind of slowed down and really kind of enjoyed how smooth it was.
Okay.
Yeah.
I had this one.
You know what?
This one, I don't know what it is.
I'm sure it's how they pack it.
But I had going like a two and a half inch ash on this one.
It was phenomenal.
It was amazing.
It had nice ash.
It did.
Very good.
And I drank, I started out with a foggy geezer from Warpigs, which is really good.
Mike doesn't like that, but you know what?
It's good.
And I'm finishing here now with another one Mike doesn't like, and that's the Spotted
Cow.
But we went-
Not that I don't like it.
I just don't think it's anything special.
You know, it's special because you can't get it outside of Wisconsin.
And it's not a bad beer.
It's not my go-to from them.
But we went and we went and visited my brother for his baby shower.
And then we bought a 24 pack of Spotted Cow.
And then we got Dave, who was on as a guest, many episodes back now in the early days.
We got him his favorite, which is the Two Women Lager.
My favorite is the Moon Man.
I've never had Moon Man.
Okay.
I've had some of their sours, which I like all of them.
They were all good.
Next time I'm in, next time I'm over there, I'm going to grab some Moon Man for you and
I, and we're going to do a special Moon Man episode or something.
Perfect.
I know we're a cigar podcast, but we'll work it in.
Yeah, it doesn't really matter.
We talk once a week podcast is what we are.
Yes.
We shoot the shit and let you know if the thing we're smoking is good or not.
And I would recommend this one.
This one's really good.
Yeah, they're good.
The nubs are very popular for a reason, for good reason.
Well respected.
So this is one of the more well-known, no, not really.
The Rocky Battelle's are really famous too, but yeah, this is generally more mainstream.
You know, if you go to a decent cigar shop, they're going to have a couple nubs there
for sure.
Oh yeah.
They're going to have some.
I would recommend grabbing this Nub Cameroon and if you can smoke inside, throw on Donovan's
Reef if you want something that's not your stereotypical John Wayne movie.
Right.
It's slapstick.
You know, you're going to find the King of the United States of America in there.
Yep.
A priest that steals money.
But he won't ever fix his roof.
Right.
He won't ever fix his roof.
That would make you upset as a homeowner.
Like if you own a home, you're going to be mad at this guy.
Some mild, relatively mild anti-Chinese racist jokes, which I even caught on when I was a
teenager.
Oh man.
You know what?
That's a racist joke.
You know what my favorite part of the whole thing was?
Was when the British people come to his bar and they get into this huge fight because
they're calling them limeys and everything and the British are trying to be all proper
and everything and they just get into this like mad free for all brawl.
Like that was worth watching the movie in my opinion.
That was like the best part.
I like that half the British guys are clearly not British.
Well, yes.
They have the, well, Michael Wayne is the commander, even though he's stronger than
all the other guys.
He's like, what, how did that happen?
Is his son's name Michael or Patrick?
I think it's Patrick Michael Wayne or something like that.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's all the, he's got all his kids have like the Patrick and the Michaels and the,
because his name is Maurice Patrick that he was supposed to be called.
No, Marion.
His name is Marion.
Marion.
I've been to his birthplace.
Oh really?
Yes.
Somerset, Iowa.
Nice.
Worth a trip if you're, you know, in Iowa for any other reason.
Right.
But I don't really recommend Iowa to people.
Unless you, the listener are from there, then it's my favorite state.
Right.
I mean, I've spent some time in Iowa working and it was fine.
They do tractor poles and stuff.
I know John Wayne and Gacy's from there.
So it's gotta be an interesting place.
Well, what's up?
Yeah.
Right.
You gotta be known for something.
So anyway, yeah, this is a good cigar.
Gets bitter towards the end, which is not surprising given its girth.
Well, and length too, you know.
Well, it's a relatively short cigar, but it is.
That's what I mean, like it's short.
Pick around.
Woohoo.
But the start of our Nub series, this was a good start and catch us next week for the
next In the Nub series.
Be safe, have fun.
Thanks for listening.