1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Mike. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,200 And I'm Nate. 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:18,680 So we are recording at my studio today, aka my smoking room. 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,520 We're smoking a Rocky Patel Vintage 92. 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,800 And I said before we started recording that I really like the shape of this cigar. 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,800 That's a 1992. 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:29,800 1992. 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:35,840 Yes, I really like the shape of this one. 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:42,120 Box press, torpedo, looks to be six inches long. 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,600 You can look it up for yourself. 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Yes, very nice shape. 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,080 Very nice shape. 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,720 I really like this. 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,000 Smells all right. 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,000 I think this will be a good one. 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,000 There's a little bit of spice on the wrapper. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,000 Yeah, there is. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,880 I don't think we actually said what we were going to talk about this time. 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,840 No, we didn't. 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,680 No, I know we wanted to. 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,160 And I'll see if I can pull it up real quick. 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,160 We can give some initial thoughts. 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,880 I mean, we're only a couple puffs in, but... 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,880 It's very strong. 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,880 Very strong. 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,800 It's got a good draw to it. 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:19,800 Yes. 28 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,680 These are highly rated usually. 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,760 This would be more of a premium cigar than what we've been smoking. 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:27,760 Yes. 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:38,440 We thought it'd be fun because it's a while ago now, but we're going to talk about kind 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:47,320 of the Aunt Jemima, removing the Aunt Jemima icon and Lando Lakes, removing the Lando Lakes 33 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:50,760 indigenous person from the... 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:51,760 Fighting Sioux. 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,440 I know I didn't mention it when we talked about earlier, but that pissed a lot of people 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,440 off. 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,600 When they changed them to the Fighting Hacks. 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:05,520 So we thought it'd be funny if we went through and found all of the products that were gendered. 39 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:12,880 Not like Soap for Men, but like Mrs. Butterworth versus things. 40 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,840 But I think that'll have to be a different one because I don't know. 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Here's 35 products that are pointless. 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,980 115. 43 00:02:19,980 --> 00:02:22,720 These aren't really necessarily the names of the brands. 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,640 So maybe I should have done gendered name brands on my Google search. 45 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:27,640 We'll do a little research. 46 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:29,120 We'll do a little bit of research. 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,120 We'll see what this... 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,840 Well, we could talk about what we were doing earlier. 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,760 Nate's been over at my place for three hours now. 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,960 We shot some Trap, then we did some target shooting as well. 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:49,600 It had been years and years and years since I shot Trap, so it took me at least a few 52 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:56,200 rounds to get back into the swing of targeting and everything. 53 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:02,080 I had my ammo at a place that had a fire, so I have a lot of smoke damaged ammo. 54 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:11,240 So I was shooting six shot high brass and then T shot, three inch T shot, which if people 55 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:16,020 don't know, that's a heavy goose load ammo. 56 00:03:16,020 --> 00:03:24,360 So it's very strong for those who aren't hunters, which is always fascinating. 57 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,000 The sixth shot would be something for early season pheasants. 58 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,680 Then we did a little bit of pistol action. 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,680 Yep. 60 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,600 We shot a nine millimeter and a 38. 61 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,600 Yeah. 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,440 It's always fun. 63 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,440 Always fun. 64 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,560 Yeah, it took me a couple shots before I got it down and then I was double tapping. 65 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:52,600 I'm not going to say like normal, but pretty much like normal. 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,600 Yeah. 67 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,560 I had a lot of the dust and rust off the old shoulder and everything. 68 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,560 Yep, yep. 69 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,080 So I'm going to have to clean that firearm. 70 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:10,080 I talked to a guy who works for the military who does arms for them. 71 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,080 I asked him about the ammo, if it was going to get damaged by the smoke. 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,280 He said, no, shoot it up, but you're going to have to make sure you clean your firearms 73 00:04:19,280 --> 00:04:22,440 because the smoke on the outside will damage the gun. 74 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,440 Yeah. 75 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,760 I was like, oh, okay. 76 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:25,760 That's interesting. 77 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:32,120 I'm surprised that the plastic housing on the rounds didn't melt. 78 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,520 They're not, it wasn't heat. 79 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,520 It was mostly smoke. 80 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,520 Oh, smoke, okay. 81 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,520 Yeah, yeah. 82 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,520 Yeah. 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:43,040 It was an electrical fire caused by a carbon monoxide detector shorting internally. 84 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,680 The thing that's supposed to save you of all things. 85 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:45,680 Yeah. 86 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:51,040 The thing that's supposed to save you of all things is that it had a short internally, which 87 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,040 is interesting. 88 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,400 But as you can see, the brass was corroded and everything. 89 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,400 Yeah, it was. 90 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Yeah. 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,840 Even the old wing master couldn't eject some of the rounds. 92 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:11,240 I remember hearing why the Colts, like the pistols were so popular with cowboys and everything 93 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:17,400 is they weren't necessarily the most well-manufactured revolver of the time of the era, but they 94 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,560 were manufactured so loose that they could still operate and fire with dust and sand 95 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,120 from the trail in them. 96 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:28,440 So everybody preferred that because they weren't as fine-tuned precise as some of the other 97 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,920 revolvers on the market. 98 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:30,920 Sure. 99 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,840 So you could actually get them out, get them dirty and still fire them. 100 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:34,840 Sure. 101 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:40,600 So that's like the original, I'm going to make myself sound like a fool because it's 102 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,320 not an AR-15 and it's not an M1. 103 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,320 The AKs? 104 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,320 No, no, no, no. 105 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,360 The American rifles, the first generation American rifles. 106 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,360 You see this in like half lit. 107 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,840 I know, that's weird. 108 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:58,320 The first generation of the M1 when they brought them to Vietnam would have jamming problems 109 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,920 because the tolerances were too tight and they would mud in them and stuff. 110 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:02,920 They were just junk. 111 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,360 Well, Vietnam is fairly humid, I believe. 112 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,560 Yeah, it's humid and muddy. 113 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,560 It's jungle. 114 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,560 Jungle. 115 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:16,680 I've been in Southeast Asia and it's jungly, but very interesting. 116 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:22,640 Yeah, versus the AK-47, which I heard that comparison once that the guy who designed 117 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:28,560 the original M1 was an aircraft designer, engineering, and the guy who designed the 118 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:33,880 AR, or not the AR, the AK-47 was a tank designer. 119 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,200 So they have two different philosophies. 120 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,280 I don't know if that's actually true, that might just be apocryphal. 121 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:44,520 I thought the AK-47 designer was just a drunk Russian, but... 122 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Maybe some of that. 123 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,520 Hard to say. 124 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,520 I don't know. 125 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,520 So on the table here, do you know what this is? 126 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,560 I think we've had it before, haven't we? 127 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:52,560 Have we had it before? 128 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,560 Well, you tell me. 129 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,560 Well, the listeners might not. 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,560 You might have had it. 131 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:56,560 I've had this here for a while. 132 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,560 You can see it at home. 133 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:58,800 If you're listening right now, you can see what Mike is holding. 134 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,800 Oh, he can see us right now? 135 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,800 That'd be awesome. 136 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,800 Activate your 3D goggles now. 137 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:06,800 Yeah, exactly. 138 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:13,320 I was on vacation a year or two ago in South Dakota, and I will not say what part or anything 139 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,320 like that, but we stopped by... 140 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,320 There's only one part. 141 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Right. 142 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,080 We stopped by a gas station and they had white liquor in the gas station, in mason jars. 143 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,200 And this is a ball, wide mouth mason jar. 144 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,200 And a local person... 145 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,200 We're not going to name names. 146 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,280 We're not going to name names, but I guess it was a little old lady that lived a couple 147 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,080 miles from the gas station, made white liquor. 148 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,080 She was grandmothered in. 149 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,080 Yeah, literally. 150 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,080 Before it was illegal. 151 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,080 Yeah. 152 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:43,720 And they were selling the white liquor at the gas station for this old lady. 153 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,720 So I of course had to stop and get some. 154 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,720 And it's pretty good. 155 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,720 We had some of this before. 156 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,720 We had to have had some before. 157 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:50,720 Yeah, it's pretty good. 158 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,600 Didn't make me go blind the first time and the jar is almost empty. 159 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,720 I should have bought a half gallon. 160 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,520 But that was an option? 161 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,520 They did. 162 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,520 They had half gallons of it. 163 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Yeah, they had every size. 164 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,880 The next time you go, let me know and I'll give you some money. 165 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:03,880 Pick me up some. 166 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,880 I'll have you. 167 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,000 I'll go back to that part. 168 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,640 I know some people there live there, which is why we were there. 169 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Yeah. 170 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,640 But yeah, that is like, oh my God, who can resist buying white liquor from a gas station? 171 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,600 Especially with the heartwarming story. 172 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,600 I know with the heart. 173 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:19,840 We have with the heartwarming story. 174 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,800 Probably your 16 year old grandson that's making it and carrying her name and icon on 175 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,400 a good event. 176 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,720 But it's good. 177 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:35,960 Not it's not the horrible white liquor that you get from the store, which is a weird 178 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:36,960 thing. 179 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,680 It's always strange because you can buy white liquor now. 180 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:41,280 But it's always crap. 181 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:48,240 And then you get the white liquor that's made by somebody and it's good. 182 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,440 When you can buy Everclear in the store. 183 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,920 Not real Everclear in Minnesota. 184 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Oh, not in Minnesota. 185 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,760 Yeah, they don't sell 195 here. 186 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,760 I know they do across the border. 187 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,960 Yeah, they sell everything across the border. 188 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:01,960 Yeah. 189 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,560 So it depends on which border. 190 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:07,480 But I used to use 195 to clean pipes. 191 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,640 But now I just use vodka. 192 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,960 But when I had better access to 195, that's what I used. 193 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,000 Yeah, I remember making some. 194 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,840 I don't know what term for it is that isn't offensive. 195 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:28,080 So we'll just say some cooler mix with some Everclear. 196 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,880 You know, you put Everclear and you toss a bunch of fruit in there and let it sit. 197 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,240 Oh, like a party. 198 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 199 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,240 You do it a couple days before and then let it sit. 200 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,560 Yeah, I don't know if any of the nicknames of what we call it would. 201 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:42,000 Yeah, I know you're talking about. 202 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 203 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,680 I don't want to just say, hey, this is what it was. 204 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:47,080 There's a J and a J. Is that what you're talking about? 205 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:52,320 It's like, I don't know if it's an acronym starting with a W. 206 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,040 Oh, I didn't know that. 207 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,200 I know that that's a racial slur, but I'm not sure if that is. 208 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,040 That's why we're not saying the only thing that we know about. 209 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:10,120 I'm saying like mixed in a larger volume vessel such as a cooler or something else that you 210 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,040 wouldn't be too turned off drinking out of. 211 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,040 Right. 212 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,040 Yeah. 213 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,040 You could do it in a bathtub, I assume. 214 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,040 Yeah. 215 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Oh, yeah. 216 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,200 The I guess was if you were an adult, you'd do it in an igloo. 217 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,200 They glue water coolers. 218 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,680 Yeah, they make 10 gallon ones. 219 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:25,680 No, I just saw one. 220 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:29,560 It's too big to fit into a back of a pickup though. 221 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:31,200 You can't close your cover on it. 222 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,880 It's like, well, what's the point of that then? 223 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:39,240 The whole point of the five gallons is that you can strap it to your truck if you have 224 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,240 a truck. 225 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Or you can buckle it in the passenger seat if you have a car. 226 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,280 Right. 227 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,280 Cool. 228 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,280 There is that. 229 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,200 Yeah, we were initially going to try and I quit Google search. 230 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,480 I thought for sure there would be just something out there. 231 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:00,280 There's all the brand names that have like a Mr. or Mrs. or Betty Sue or whatever where 232 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,120 the brand names are just unnecessarily gendered. 233 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,160 But all I could find was why is there a different soap for men and women? 234 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:12,040 Why is there the products that are needlessly gendered where it's like a man's razor versus 235 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,520 a woman's razor? 236 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,520 Sure. 237 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,520 Nice, Sarah. 238 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,440 And I get that all the time, but we've occasionally had that conversation. 239 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,040 And I buy the lady stuff if it's cheaper. 240 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,280 I don't care if it's pink or not. 241 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,200 I know that I use a monkey butt powder a lot during the summer because I work outside a 242 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,200 lot. 243 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,000 And I'll buy the lady monkey butt powder. 244 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,560 It's dyed pink for whatever reason. 245 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:38,960 It's in a pink container and they have a pink dye in it. 246 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:44,520 But you can get three bottles of it for the price of one regular monkey butt powder. 247 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:45,520 It's like, well, I don't care. 248 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,840 So what if you look like Rafiki? 249 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:47,840 Yeah. 250 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,160 All I want it to do is absorb sweat on my crotch. 251 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,560 That's all it needs to do. 252 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:53,560 Or in my socks. 253 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:58,720 I'll put it in my socks and stuff like that as I lace my boots up. 254 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,520 But I have a pink backpack for bowling. 255 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,760 We've talked about that before. 256 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,080 We've talked about that before. 257 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,560 And I got them for super cheap. 258 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:13,360 So not that anybody really cares, but I have a matching set of bowling bags. 259 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:21,080 I got a four ball and two, three balls and they're all the same royal blue color. 260 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,640 And they're super fancy and all that. 261 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,320 And they make a royal blue backpack in the same brand. 262 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,860 They're all the same brand. 263 00:12:26,860 --> 00:12:31,480 But I didn't buy the royal blue because the royal blue was like $30 more than the pink 264 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,480 one. 265 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:33,480 And the pink was so cheap. 266 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,280 I got one and then I went on sale even deeper and I got the second one for like 13 bucks. 267 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,320 I don't give a shit. 268 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:46,520 So when we were out shooting, shooting trap, we were talking about, because we picked up 269 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:52,280 our shells and I was shooting a 20 gauge and I was shooting a 12 gauge and all of his shells 270 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,460 were kind of a deep red. 271 00:12:54,460 --> 00:12:59,920 So not like the hunting uniforms or hunting outfits from like the 80s where remember they 272 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:00,920 were all red. 273 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,400 And then they invented or came up or decided blaze orange was easier to be seen. 274 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,800 And then mine were all yellow, which were easy enough to see in the grass. 275 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,320 But we were talking if you're out hunting in the fall, you've got yellow and red and 276 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,600 some of the shells are green and some of them are black. 277 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:16,600 They're not really high visibility. 278 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:22,100 And if you really want to, you know, a lot of hunters will go out and say that they're 279 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:28,000 hunting because they love the environment oh so much and you need to manage animal populations, 280 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,000 which is true. 281 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,600 I mean, in modern times, that's why we have a lot of fires that cause all this destruction 282 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:38,040 because the plains used to burn, you know, woods used to burn. 283 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,960 We prevent all of that stuff now as humans. 284 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,000 But we were picking up the shells and we were talking about why don't they make these, you 285 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,000 know, blaze orange? 286 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,440 Yes, we were or blaze pink. 287 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,800 Yeah, because they the year a couple of years ago and I'm sure they still do it. 288 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:58,440 Federal was making breast cancer themed not promo loads. 289 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,480 That themed breast cancer awareness. 290 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,800 Yeah, breast cancer awareness themed promo loads, which for people who don't know, they're 291 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,840 like seven and a half eight shot loads intended to shoot at clay pigeons only. 292 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,720 And it's kind of a nice gimmick. 293 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:13,720 And I liked them. 294 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,600 I bought a couple cases of it because they're super easy to see when they go on the ground. 295 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,760 And it's great. 296 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,680 And I hunt out of a lodge with guys that I've been hunting for years. 297 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:31,480 And every one of us all agrees that they should make blaze orange hunting shotgun shells. 298 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,000 You know, we're shooting pheasants from fall to winter. 299 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:43,720 And it's just so hard to see sometimes where the shotgun shells are, because I have a variety 300 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:55,000 and they're from the dark red like that oak, red oak red to olive green to black. 301 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,680 And they're all colors that look they disappear into the grass. 302 00:14:58,680 --> 00:14:59,680 Yeah. 303 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:00,680 And it's a deep, deep red. 304 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,760 It's not like the sumac in the fall red where it pops. 305 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,720 No, it's like red oak. 306 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:06,720 Yeah. 307 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:12,160 It's it is very difficult to see in a field especially. 308 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,620 And even my dove loads are black and red and olive green. 309 00:15:17,620 --> 00:15:20,120 And you're shooting on fields that were just cut. 310 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,040 And it's so hard to see that. 311 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,080 And I don't want to leave them and you're shooting, you know, it's just like, oh, how 312 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,080 obnoxious. 313 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Yeah. 314 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,920 And especially in the fall and all the leaves come and you know, you've got the yellow poplar 315 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:35,480 leaves on the ground and red and the brown and you can't hardly see them. 316 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,480 Right. 317 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,120 There's no reason not to make them blaze orange or pink. 318 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:45,080 Because then even if even if you're going is like where we used to target shoot, other 319 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,720 people would target shoot. 320 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,360 And we'd always pick up we pick up more more shells than we shot. 321 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,100 We pick up more clay pigeons than we shot. 322 00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:57,720 We pick up all the trash there because it was on state land and we wanted to keep it 323 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,720 nice. 324 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,840 We wanted to be able to keep shooting there. 325 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:05,480 We wanted, you know, you just don't want your woods littered with shells and stuff. 326 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,720 So we always pick up all of our shells, all of our spence when we're out in the woods, 327 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,820 either target shooting or hunting. 328 00:16:11,820 --> 00:16:14,560 And there's no reason not to make them highly visible. 329 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,560 Oh, absolutely. 330 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,560 You know, yeah. 331 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,680 Like who wouldn't, you know, and that's kind of led to a discussion about, you know, is 332 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,420 that kind of that fragile masculinity or toxic masculinity where you won't buy something 333 00:16:25,420 --> 00:16:29,840 pink because it's pink or you won't, you know, like you think it's girly so you won't do 334 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,840 it. 335 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:31,840 Right. 336 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:39,560 Which occasionally guys will make fun of me lightly for my pink backpack. 337 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:46,000 But it's really easy to see my bowling equipment when I put it on top of my bowling bags. 338 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,840 When you're in a bowling alley that's got 30 lanes, really easy to see where my stuff 339 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:51,840 is. 340 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:58,240 I think by and large, most men either like it because it's a different color than they 341 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,840 normally see or they're a little jealous that they're not confident enough to carry a color 342 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,040 that is supposedly been gendered. 343 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Sure. 344 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,040 I have a pink watch. 345 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,040 Yeah. 346 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,040 I love it. 347 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,040 In summertime, it's great. 348 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,400 I don't think I've seen that one. 349 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,400 You have to show me. 350 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:18,760 It's that swatch that has the pink band, the Miami band. 351 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:24,280 So swatch makes cheap watches, second watch red, and they're all quartz. 352 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:25,280 This one's really cool. 353 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,480 The dial is green and blue and it's got the rotating, it's all skeletonized, but then 354 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,920 the band is a Miami themed band. 355 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,520 So it's like turquoise and pink and yellow. 356 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,520 It's really fun. 357 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:41,720 I know I was doing some research on to, I'm not as big into watches as Mike is. 358 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,560 Mike seems to be big into everything that I've got kind of a passing interest in. 359 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,400 So maybe that's why we're good friends because I get a lot of information from him. 360 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,400 Right. 361 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,080 And you're a big fan of stuff that I'm like tertially interested. 362 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,080 Movies? 363 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,080 I've seen one. 364 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:02,240 Didn't like it. 365 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:11,680 But my biggest thing was I grew up in a small, small town in Wisconsin and we all just wore 366 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:17,400 the graphic tees all the time and the baggy shorts or whatever. 367 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,560 And then how do you dress more adult? 368 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,320 Well, nobody knows because our parents lived in that small town and they never went anywhere 369 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,320 where anybody saw them. 370 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,280 And you don't necessarily have to, like I'm not saying you have to wear fancy clothes 371 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,540 or know anything about style, but I was trying to get a little more into it so that I didn't 372 00:18:33,540 --> 00:18:37,560 look like I was perpetually a high school kid, but getting older. 373 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,920 He's been held back 20 years now and he's trying to graduate. 374 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,680 So I was trying to get some nicer clothes, but for cheap because I didn't want to go 375 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,280 out and spend all this money on stuff that I wasn't sure I'd even like or fit or feel 376 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,280 comfortable in. 377 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,480 But you can develop your own style anytime, anywhere. 378 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,480 It doesn't matter. 379 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,480 That's not the whole point of the conversation. 380 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:02,520 But I was looking into kind of cheaper watches that weren't because all I had was like a 381 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,520 digital one, right? 382 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,680 With the rubber band and digital and it was whatever. 383 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,480 You wear it out hunting because it doesn't tick so you don't scare the deer and stuff. 384 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,800 But the one that I really like, it's a Timex from Target. 385 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,520 So it was like, I don't know, 15, 20 bucks. 386 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,080 Has a cloth or fabric band. 387 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,560 Real nice movement and everything. 388 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:25,560 It keeps good time. 389 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,120 It looks good with most clothing. 390 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:29,120 I didn't wear it now. 391 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:32,680 I wore it in New York and the band got kind of soaked in sweat because it was almost 100 392 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,680 degrees every day. 393 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,120 Probably got to give that a old Rinse-a-Roux. 394 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:39,520 You should look into getting NATO straps. 395 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,520 I like the NATO straps. 396 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,400 They're just a pull through. 397 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,400 That's what this one is. 398 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,400 I modify them. 399 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,240 I turn them into a Zulu so the NATO has an underband. 400 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,000 I just cut that off, burn it so it's a straight through. 401 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,880 You can switch them out real easy. 402 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,600 Even on my work watches and stuff, I'll have a NATO. 403 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,760 I wear a G-Shock at work. 404 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,400 I'm wearing a G-Shock right now, this is an expensive one. 405 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,200 My digital looks like that, but it's one of the cheap ones. 406 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:15,520 This is a GW5000, like one JFU or whatever. 407 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,520 It's made in Japan. 408 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,520 It's all the fancy stuff. 409 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,520 Yeah. 410 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:23,680 Mike's got the encyclopedic knowledge of the model numbers of work boots, shoes, and watches. 411 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:24,680 Yes, I do. 412 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:25,680 Yes, I do. 413 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,200 When it comes to cigar length and gauge. 414 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,200 That's a little hit or miss. 415 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,200 Yeah, a little hit or miss. 416 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,200 But everything else. 417 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,640 I'm not so savvy on movies either. 418 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,640 We complete each other. 419 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,640 Yes, I guess so. 420 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,640 Yeah, the NATO straps. 421 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,040 I have several. 422 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,360 You know what the diameter is for your band? 423 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:48,840 I have a bunch of NATO straps. 424 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:49,840 They're super cheap too. 425 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:50,840 We can just look. 426 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,480 We'll do a little watch show and tell after this episode. 427 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,480 Yeah, we can do that. 428 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,480 We can figure it out. 429 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,480 Yeah, I have a caliper. 430 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,480 It's not here. 431 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,480 I have a caliper and everything. 432 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,840 Yeah, I got a caliper at home for nerdy things. 433 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:13,440 I have boxes of straps because you can get a box of them of five for $7 on Amazon. 434 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,360 Even the expensive ones are like 20 bucks. 435 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:21,520 Yeah, I know there's a lot of stuff you can get now. 436 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,520 It looks a lot better than just randomly pieced together things from your high school days 437 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,520 or my high school days anyway. 438 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,520 I didn't know about your high school days. 439 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:33,320 I didn't know you then, but Sarah got so mad at me. 440 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,680 She's not mad, but I wear just a lot of t-shirts all the time. 441 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,680 Sure. 442 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,680 Whatever, they're comfortable. 443 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,680 Who cares? 444 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,680 She bought me all these collared button downs. 445 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,160 I don't know, just a month or two ago, she was like, you always just wear those t-shirts 446 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,360 and you never wear these nice shirts I got you. 447 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:53,520 It's like, well, I work from home. 448 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,360 I never have my camera on on my laptop. 449 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:57,760 Who cares what I wear? 450 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,240 In New York, I wore all of my shirts like this. 451 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,280 I figured I'd wear them this weekend too. 452 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,280 I'm wearing one of them now. 453 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,400 It's the snap, so it's easy to do the Jeff Goldblum. 454 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,960 If I'm out and about, I wear a button up shirt most days. 455 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:18,200 I like the Columbia professional fishing gear and professional hunting gear shirts because 456 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,200 they can roll up. 457 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,560 You can turn them into a short sleeve and they have the holes in the back. 458 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,040 A lot of the Columbia shirts look really nice too. 459 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:32,840 They got the collars, just the floppy collars, but they button up. 460 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:38,320 They look a lot nicer than a t-shirt and they're so breathable. 461 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,560 They wick everything away from you. 462 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,480 They're like a performance shirt, but it looks nice. 463 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,000 They are cooler temperature-wise than wearing a t-shirt. 464 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,720 I wear them hiking. 465 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,480 They look nice enough to wear around town. 466 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:59,080 I'm on two bowling teams this year and they're both highly organized scratch teams. 467 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,440 Let's call it that. 468 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,680 We have button up shirts that are logoed. 469 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,500 One of them has two shirts. 470 00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:09,600 They have a t-shirt and then they have a nicer shirt. 471 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,960 Like the home and away uniforms you're playing on your home lane. 472 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,960 Yeah, something like that. 473 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:24,960 But no, once from one year in that particular place had t-shirts already and then the owner 474 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,720 she wanted to get us nice shirts. 475 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,200 But I wear a pocket t-shirt at home and stuff as you can see. 476 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,240 I actually felt like a scrub because I was like, I'm going to do work this morning before 477 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,800 you showed up, which I did obviously. 478 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,800 I was like, I'm just not going to change. 479 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,200 I'm going to shoot. 480 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,480 I picked out, I'm like, I'll wear this one for shooting because it's a little more olive 481 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,480 toned. 482 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,160 It looks like it could be like an Australian tour guide or bush guide or whatever they 483 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,160 call them. 484 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,160 Whatever. 485 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,320 Yeah, you're a cat dundee or whatever. 486 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,800 Yeah, crocodile dundee. 487 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,320 There are no crocodiles here, hopefully. 488 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,320 No, hopefully not. 489 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,320 They wouldn't last very long. 490 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,320 White tail dundee. 491 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,320 Yeah, all good. 492 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:17,440 You can find a lot of nice things for really affordable, I think, or a lot of things that 493 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:23,200 just up your game, whether it's like style or anything really. 494 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,120 The PFG shirts, the Colombias, if you get them for the right time of year, you can get 495 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:30,160 them for a very good price usually. 496 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,680 Of course, I don't buy anything full price. 497 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,640 Yeah, you can find a lot of, I don't wear them so much anymore now, but ties. 498 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,280 You can find a lot of really sharp looking ties that are dirt cheap. 499 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Like at JCPenney, they used to have the $5 per tie rack or something. 500 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:52,000 You can go out and they were all just strewn about, so you'd have to sift through them. 501 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:57,120 It's almost like the $5 DVD bin at Walmart or whatever you dig through, but you might 502 00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:00,240 find that really sharp looking tie or whatever. 503 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,920 I have a bunch of Jerry Garcia ties. 504 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,480 I get compliments from guys. 505 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,360 I got a few of them for different events that I used to go to. 506 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:13,440 I found a really sharp looking white tie. 507 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,440 It's all white. 508 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:19,440 It's pure white and then it's got polka dots, but the polka dots are like the holographic, 509 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,440 like whatever. 510 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,520 So in the light, they kind of like shine a different hue. 511 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,520 That's pretty cool. 512 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,080 So it's not overly loud. 513 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,080 They're very, very subtle. 514 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,160 So you have to be fairly close to see that they've got the little like, I don't know, 515 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,160 holographic. 516 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,080 It's not really holographic, but what would you call it? 517 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,560 What's that when you look at something or if you're looking through like a sheet of 518 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,880 cellophane or something and you've got like the different purples and greens kind of? 519 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,360 Sure, like transparent kind of. 520 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,000 I don't know what it is. 521 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,000 I don't know what that is. 522 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,000 A foil. 523 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Yes, something like that. 524 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Like a fishing lure. 525 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000 Yeah. 526 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,000 These, we're about halfway through. 527 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Yeah, I would say so. 528 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,000 You know what? 529 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000 We're pretty dang even here. 530 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,760 We're pretty even. 531 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,440 You burned off a lot of your tip, I think, when you re-lit. 532 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,440 I know. 533 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:11,920 I lit the whole thing and then it was the left half or top half was lit and the other 534 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,720 half wasn't, which was really weird. 535 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,720 Like I've never had it. 536 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,000 It was like perfectly down the middle. 537 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,720 So I don't know if like one half was like a little damper. 538 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,000 I'm going to make a call back. 539 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,400 You didn't rotate your cigar, bro. 540 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,440 Oh, fuck. 541 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,440 Yeah. 542 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,440 When I smoke, I smoke alone with my buddies. 543 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,000 I don't know if he listens to these podcasts or not, but shout out to Willie if he does. 544 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,360 But he was the one and we smoked the Hexpress together. 545 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:45,240 Really good friend, but it's always like we have a cigar podcast and I smoke cigars around 546 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,800 other people who smoke cigars but don't have a podcast. 547 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,280 They're always like, you have a cigar podcast and you're smoking like a moron? 548 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,400 It's like, yeah, I do it for fun. 549 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,840 Nobody ever taught me how to smoke a cigar. 550 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,960 I've just kind of learned what I've learned and what I don't know, I don't know, I don't 551 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,960 know. 552 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,960 And so, you know, and I always tell everybody they're like, well, you have a cigar podcast. 553 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,960 Why aren't you doing this? 554 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,400 I'm like, dude, listen to this. 555 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,920 My co-host, Mike, was telling me about freezing cigars to get the Weevil Beatles out or something, 556 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,840 you know, and like I never knew that. 557 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,840 Like that's something you don't know. 558 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,360 And I've never gone online and researched like how to smoke a cigar or anything like 559 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:22,360 that. 560 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:26,360 I just kind of picked it up in college or after college and I was smoking like acids 561 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:30,480 and like flavored, not like, not the swisher sweets, but you know, like you'd go and just, 562 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,480 oh, this is a cheap one. 563 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,480 Oh, acid. 564 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,480 That sounds like a bad ass name. 565 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,480 Let's smoke that. 566 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,080 Like it sounds like acid, you know, like just whatever young kids do. 567 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,960 Yeah, they have motorcycles on them and shit. 568 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,960 Yeah. 569 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,960 It's like baby boomer cool. 570 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,240 So you know, you learn into it. 571 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:52,200 And I think a lot of these hobbies, whether it's bowling or trap shooting or wearing ties 572 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:58,600 or cigar smoking or drinking scotch or building Legos, you know, whatever it is, like a lot 573 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,560 of them are too snobby. 574 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,560 Yes. 575 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:07,460 You know, and so I've heard, I've heard somebody cause like book, people who read books can 576 00:28:07,460 --> 00:28:08,460 be really snobby. 577 00:28:08,460 --> 00:28:11,840 Like, Oh my God, you haven't read Pride and Prejudice? 578 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,320 Well, don't it's boring. 579 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,320 It's lame. 580 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,320 Sorry. 581 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,960 My one friend who likes that book. 582 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,960 I like that book. 583 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,200 I like all the Genos novels and I've read them all. 584 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,440 I think that they're great. 585 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,440 Sorry. 586 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,280 My two friends that like that book. 587 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:34,360 I do actually like, so the story about Pride and Prejudice for me is I really wanted to 588 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:38,720 read the Pride and Prejudice and Zombies, but I thought I better read the original one 589 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,720 first. 590 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,720 Sure. 591 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,720 And it was just boring. 592 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,080 And you know, maybe I wasn't in the right mindset because I was like excited, jacked 593 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,360 out about the zombies, like in the, like the remake or whatever. 594 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,840 But I understand that that was all marketing and they just wanted me to like read the zombie 595 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,320 one and be like, Hey, that's cool. 596 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,520 But I never read the zombie one because I hated the first one so much. 597 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,520 It was just boring. 598 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,160 You don't have to like it. 599 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,400 But what I heard about people who read books is a lot of times they'll be like, Oh my God, 600 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,200 you haven't read Pride and Prejudice. 601 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,400 But instead of saying that if you want to, and I don't want to go full on like, let's 602 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,960 all be inclusive, but why not? 603 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,040 You know, instead of saying you haven't read that say, well, you're going to really enjoy 604 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,160 that when you do. 605 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,560 Instead of saying, instead of trying to shame them for not having read that, encourage them 606 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,560 to do so, but in a non-threatening thing. 607 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,880 And it's the same thing with like parents, right? 608 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,000 They always guilt you or try to guilt you, even if they're not actively trying to like, 609 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,520 Oh, well it'd be really nice to see you for dinner or something, whatever it is they do. 610 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,240 But they always kind of say it in that way where you kind of feel obligated to do it. 611 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,920 And you can use different words, you know, you can do it like, Hey, it'd be great to 612 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,680 see you for dinner if you got time. 613 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,680 Yep. 614 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,680 Boom. 615 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,680 You take half of the stress out of it. 616 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,520 Just, just with that, I try not to do that with bowling. 617 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,720 Uh, cause a lot of, uh, newer bowlers will try to come up and talk to me and blah, blah, 618 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,920 blah, and all that stuff. 619 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,360 And I don't like bowling against the new bowlers, uh, particularly. 620 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,480 Uh, and I get sour sometimes. 621 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,640 I'm just tired of it, but at the same time, I know, I know, right? 622 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,640 I know. 623 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,400 So I, I, I need to work on it more, but I really try to work on if they're showing interest 624 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,080 in the game and they get their own stuff and they're showing up, I have to get a better 625 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,240 attitude about trying to talk to them when they ask me questions. 626 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,640 If they're asking me questions, I actually usually get pretty positive. 627 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,680 I'm like, Oh, they're interested. 628 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,680 You know, that's cool. 629 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,680 Yeah. 630 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,680 You know? 631 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,000 Um, but, and that's not to say that every novice or every, every new person to the sport 632 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,560 or hobby has the right attitude coming in either, you know, they think, Oh, here's 633 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,640 a old crotchety person that's been doing it for a long time, or here's somebody who, you 634 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,080 know, and they come in and they want to like prove themselves or whatever. 635 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,680 And that, you know, I don't think that's the right attitude either. 636 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,680 Right. 637 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480 You know, for, for a new person, you know, and so like smoking cigars, I don't have 638 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,120 a big ego about smoking cigars. 639 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,120 Yes. 640 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,960 We've got a cigar podcast, uh, but we went to the, let's be honest, our cigar podcast 641 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,720 is mostly so we can bullshit once a week, whatever the reasoning is, it's fine. 642 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,760 It's all good, you know, but, uh, and I was funny with Dave was asking like what we hope 643 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,760 to get out of the podcast. 644 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,760 It's like, I just want to smoke. 645 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,760 Yeah. 646 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,560 Um, but you know, we went to this humidor, uh, my buddy Willie and I, and, um, you know, 647 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,920 he's talking to the guy and I'm like, I would never talk to the guy, but I'm an introvert. 648 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,440 Like I would just like, don't talk to me. 649 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,400 I just want to look at the sticks, you know? 650 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,000 But then he's talking like, okay, this one, you know, initially it's got like this like 651 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,460 florally and then it shifts to this and that and like the mouth feel and like he's going 652 00:31:41,460 --> 00:31:45,520 on like full on like wine, sommelier, um, on all these things. 653 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,680 And that's how Willie picked this express, which I never would have picked because I 654 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,640 never would have talked to the guy, uh, to know it. 655 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,280 And so I've got a bad attitude sometimes too, and I got to work on that. 656 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,280 Right. 657 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,260 Um, but you know, sometimes it's just enough to know that you don't know. 658 00:31:58,260 --> 00:32:02,880 And I wasn't trying, I didn't try and like cut this guy off and like talk over him because 659 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,600 I could tell he knew more than I did. 660 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,600 Right. 661 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,640 Um, but I never would have talked to him and that's my fault. 662 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,200 Like I should have probably talked to people that know more than I do about it. 663 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,200 Absolutely. 664 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,200 Yeah. 665 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,200 Yeah. 666 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,160 And it's like you say a lot of times when I get like, especially with bowling, cause 667 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,160 I do it a lot. 668 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,200 I'm talking with new people. 669 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,920 People want advice. 670 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,040 They don't quite understand how technical it is. 671 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,880 You know, there's a lot of technology involved in modern bowling nowadays. 672 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,780 And uh, well, and even it, it's just like, it frustrates me because they don't do any 673 00:32:34,780 --> 00:32:36,040 research on their own. 674 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,920 I go online and watch a few videos for God's sakes. 675 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,200 I'm not saying you need to buy Earl Anthony's book. 676 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,200 All right. 677 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,200 Yeah. 678 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,160 But, uh, you should at least have an idea of what you're getting into. 679 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,520 If you're trying to like be seriously into this as a hobby, which is, you don't have 680 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:58,200 to be, I mean, uh, it takes all kinds to make, uh, an industry. 681 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:04,360 Uh, but, uh, well, and every bowler is perpetuating bowling. 682 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,640 Even if you're just going as a family and you know, right. 683 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,640 Whatever. 684 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,240 You're not, you're not buying your own balls, but you're bowling. 685 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,720 You're still showing support for the bowling alley. 686 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,200 You're still out there. 687 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,200 You're having fun. 688 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,200 You're enjoying it. 689 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,200 Hopefully. 690 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,960 It's a, it's a well-known fact in the industry that league bowlers keep the alleys open. 691 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,180 The open bowlers is where they make profit. 692 00:33:25,180 --> 00:33:31,400 So you go to a smaller league, a smaller house, like during COVID, the smaller houses that 693 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:37,440 have more leagues did much better than the bigger houses that have more, more entertainment 694 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,780 center styles. 695 00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:41,960 Like the moonlight or the midnight bowling and the disco bowling. 696 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,960 Yeah. 697 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:50,200 Though if you're relying on open bowling and birthday parties, then they did a lot worse 698 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,200 off. 699 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:57,040 Uh, but the smaller houses, you know, if you have a eight lane house that has wood lanes, 700 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:02,840 but you're putting out sports shots and you have competitive leagues and shit, they did 701 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,320 well because all those guys were there. 702 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,320 You know what I mean? 703 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,360 Yeah, they're showing up. 704 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,920 They're not going to not bowl. 705 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,920 Period. 706 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:20,720 One, uh, even technology aside, because, um, for one of my birthdays, my dad got me, uh, 707 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:25,960 like a coupon or whatever to go to the bowling alley in town here and get a ball. 708 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,320 And I think take two or three, I don't know, maybe up to five lessons. 709 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,120 And so as a kid, I was in a bowling, bowling kids league. 710 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:41,800 And um, I think the highest ever scored was like two 10 as a, as a child. 711 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:48,160 And but the child one is, uh, the way that I was taught the bowl is it's like a straight 712 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,640 approach, you know, right? 713 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:57,560 And you, and you start from the, not the furthest back set of dots, but the next set of dots 714 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,560 up. 715 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,840 I'm sure there's a technical name for the, for the different sets of dots, the ladies 716 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,560 tease basically for golf, um, and then go from there. 717 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:11,040 But of course now I'm six six, so I can't start from there anymore, uh, to get a full 718 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,040 good thing. 719 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:17,040 And then they were teaching me the, uh, not the straight straight throw, but to put some 720 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,040 spin on it. 721 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,040 Right. 722 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,360 And then you, you know, the way you have to do your hand. 723 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,520 And so it gets very technical, even with like the form of bowling. 724 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,840 Like if you want to get more into it. 725 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,040 And I remember I had to like, you taught me all this stuff and like I had to, I wrote 726 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,800 it all down and I keep it in my bowling bag and I haven't gone bowling for even longer 727 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,680 than I haven't shot trap. 728 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,840 So we got it because we tried to go bowling that one night. 729 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,160 Uh, we told the story, but the lanes were all full and then we just kind of like went 730 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,160 home because it was late. 731 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,840 Um, and we're old, but basically, yes, that's pretty much more. 732 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,320 Less moral of the story. 733 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,880 And um, you know, so if I were to get back into bowling and bowling with my ball, cause 734 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,640 it's got a different core in it than the house balls do. 735 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,640 Yes. 736 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,760 So I have to, I pretty much have to throw it that curved way or that way that I was 737 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,040 taught how to throw it. 738 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,640 You can throw it straight. 739 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,080 It's it's fine. 740 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,080 Yeah. 741 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,800 Mike just like grimaced a little bit when he's like, you can throw it straight. 742 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,560 Well, Sarah, uh, I bought her a bowling ball and hers has a core in it. 743 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,280 Hers is a modern ball, you know? 744 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,280 Yeah. 745 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,160 She throws a straight, it will hook though at the end. 746 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,160 Yeah. 747 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,920 So I would like to like, that would be something I would like to do because I have the shoes 748 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,960 and the ball. 749 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,920 And if I just did it, you have to do it enough. 750 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,720 Just like shooting trap today. 751 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:40,000 I think I missed every single, every single pigeon, my first go round. 752 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,240 But then, you know, set by this third go round for sure. 753 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:46,600 Like the second go round, I hit a couple and then by the third go round, I was finally 754 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,200 feeling back into the swing of it. 755 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,200 Yep. 756 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,560 You know, cause there's just enough stuff, you know, it's kind of like riding a bicycle, 757 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,960 but you know, if you haven't ridden a bicycle for 20 years, you hop back on it, you can 758 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,840 balance, but you're not taking corners at 25 miles an hour. 759 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,640 You know, you're not doing some of the stuff that you used to do as a kid. 760 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,640 Right. 761 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,360 Um, but it'd be fun to go bowling and get some pointers and like relearn how to throw 762 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,400 the modern way, I guess. 763 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,440 But yeah, and I bowl the modern, well, it's not even modern style. 764 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,560 No, a lot of the younger guys who want to play the power game are throwing two-handed. 765 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,560 That wasn't a thing. 766 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,600 When I started learning how to bowl, there wasn't even a ratchet resin bowling balls 767 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,160 yet. 768 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:33,840 And I developed like the modern power game for the nineties and early two thousands. 769 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,120 And that's very technical. 770 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,840 Very, there's a reason why they don't do it anymore. 771 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,960 It takes a long time to get good at it. 772 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,160 Really long time, way longer than the two-handed. 773 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,480 Two-handed bowling, you can get almost immediate success. 774 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,040 You can get up to 170 average two-handed bowling pretty quick with modern equipment. 775 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,040 Okay. 776 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,640 But if you're going to do one-handed and you're going to actually have the proper rolling 777 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:03,720 release, it takes, you have to lift weights to be able to be strong enough to let it coil 778 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:05,920 off your hand and not injure yourself. 779 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:11,720 When I was a teenager, I literally was lifting weights so I could get better at bowling. 780 00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:16,440 That's like some of the positions of the Kamasutra too, is you have to do some weights, some 781 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,640 cock pushups, things like that. 782 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,360 But you only need to do one cock pushup. 783 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,360 That's true. 784 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,360 You only need to do one. 785 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,800 But yeah, it's always interesting. 786 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,800 And then there's different approaches too. 787 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,800 This is a bowling podcast. 788 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,800 No. 789 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,320 But we're going to talk about it a little bit. 790 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,560 My dad started bowling in the 70s. 791 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,320 So his release is totally different than mine. 792 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,880 He's got a totally different approach. 793 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,240 And he still tries to teach people to lift. 794 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,480 That's what you did when it was rubber. 795 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,200 Because he wasn't even bowling in a plastic era. 796 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,960 Plastic balls didn't come out until the mid 70s. 797 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,720 So in order to get roll on the ball, they would pinch with their fingers and try to 798 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,000 pull the ball up as they released it. 799 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000 Okay. 800 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,160 Which is the exact opposite of what you want to do. 801 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,440 Nowadays, with modern equipment, you don't want to do that. 802 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,880 You want to throw like a spiral. 803 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,000 Except you're not doing this. 804 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000 Well, you're not doing the overhand. 805 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,000 You're doing the best spiral you're doing. 806 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,000 Yeah, you're doing underhanded spiral. 807 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:19,920 And it's crazy to think, well, just for me, bowling as a kid with the straight approach 808 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:26,160 and then learning the hook shot or the curve, I don't know what you would call it. 809 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,160 Hook, hands, hook. 810 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,920 You kind of let it go off your hand and kind of, you know, but it puts a spin on it. 811 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,920 So it's a spin on it. 812 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,080 And it's crazy how accurate you can be with the spin. 813 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,480 Like you wouldn't like if you're just thinking about things is straight going to be more 814 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,480 accurate than spinning. 815 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,320 Well, you know, logically, maybe. 816 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,300 But you know, hunting rifles, they have rifled barrels to put more spin on the on the bullet 817 00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:54,880 so that the wind affects it less and the external forces affect it less. 818 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,760 And it's like a football or even a baseball that spins through the air. 819 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,300 So like intuitively, you might think something going straight is better. 820 00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:07,000 But physics basically fucks life up for everybody. 821 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000 Right. 822 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,800 But if you understand it or you just see it happen in practice, then you know, you're 823 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,800 a believer. 824 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,200 A lot of two handers don't put their thumb in. 825 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,340 But when they shoot spares, they put their thumb in and they one hand it because it's 826 00:40:21,340 --> 00:40:23,600 a lot more accurate to do with one hand. 827 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,600 Yes. 828 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,600 It's a lot more accurate to do with two. 829 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,840 But you have so much more power. 830 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:33,200 Even my revered, I have a somewhere like I have a four eighty to five hundred revered, 831 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,200 which is really high for a one hander. 832 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,920 Especially an amateur. 833 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,240 But a two hander can get six all day long. 834 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:42,240 Yeah. 835 00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,520 My revered is higher than any of the two handers that bowl in this area. 836 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,520 But one. 837 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,520 Yeah. 838 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,840 And he bowled in college. 839 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,160 So he's he's a very good bowler. 840 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,160 But he's been doing it. 841 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,160 Yeah, he's been doing it. 842 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,160 Yeah. 843 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,560 He's been once as he was a child and we're buddies. 844 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,560 We bowl together. 845 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,200 We we bowl on the state, the state winning team. 846 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,200 Oh, yeah. 847 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,200 Yeah. 848 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,200 So. 849 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,200 But yeah, he's really good. 850 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,200 And then his brother in law, I'm friends with him. 851 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,200 Yeah. 852 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,520 And Will is his name. 853 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,200 He's completely against two handed bowling. 854 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,200 He thinks it should be banned. 855 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,200 OK. 856 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,200 Yeah. 857 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,200 And then. 858 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,200 Yeah. 859 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,200 So it takes all types. 860 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,200 Yeah, it takes all types and there's totally different attitudes. 861 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,160 I know that I bowled the guy in. 862 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,760 He's unfortunately passed away now. 863 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,280 But oh, thank you. 864 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,280 Thank you. 865 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,280 We will. 866 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,200 We will have that later. 867 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,200 Right now. 868 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,200 Right now. 869 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,200 Right now. 870 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,200 We're going to eat on the podcast. 871 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,200 You are. 872 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,200 Because I didn't know you were recording. 873 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,200 That's all right. 874 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,200 I made you lunch. 875 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,200 Thank you. 876 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,200 It's Sarah's debut on the podcast. 877 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,200 It is. 878 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,640 And we have lunch and that's amazing. 879 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,640 And thank you. 880 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,640 Thank you very much. 881 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:44,640 I love you, baby. 882 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,640 Love you too. 883 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,640 But I bowl tournaments with the guy. 884 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:55,080 And who's passed on now, unfortunately. 885 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,400 But we were in the mode there for a while that they should even get rid of modern bowling 886 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:05,240 equipment and we should put a little cap on it and just have like older technology that 887 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,240 doesn't hook automatically. 888 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:07,240 Like a retro league. 889 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:11,680 Like a ball like, yeah, they should get rid of all this modern stuff with the ball hooks 890 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,320 by itself because we both had a quote unquote modern release. 891 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,920 And I can make a ball hook. 892 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,440 I trained, quote unquote, trained to make a ball hook. 893 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,440 Yes. 894 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,880 So I don't need the modern stuff, even though I use it, obviously, who wouldn't? 895 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,280 That's the point is like, you know, even with, I don't know if it's similar to board games 896 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,400 or not, but I do a lot of board games and it's kind of the same thing. 897 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:44,920 If you have newer people that are new to modern board gaming, meaning not monopoly or risk, 898 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,680 but there's even older games than that that are out there that are a lot of fun. 899 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,400 And you can have a lot of fun with an older game and you can have a lot of fun with a 900 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,640 game that's not crazy complex. 901 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,360 You're not spending eight hours trying to play this game, right? 902 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,560 You can play a game in 45 minutes, half an hour. 903 00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,560 It can be fun. 904 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,080 And if you're playing with newer, newer players, you know, you have to start where they're 905 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,080 at. 906 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,080 You can't start where you're at. 907 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,080 You have to start where they're at. 908 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,080 Right. 909 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:13,560 And part of it is you want to, you want to encourage them to continue to enjoy the hobby, 910 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,840 whatever the hobby may lead them into. 911 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,600 And so some people, I'm sure in bowling, get super into the modern. 912 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,600 I need the latest technology right now and I need it yesterday and I need the newest 913 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,800 shoes and I need the newest everything. 914 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,120 And then there's some people that are like, you know what, my style fits this better and 915 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,240 I would rather do this. 916 00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:35,960 And if you don't do the two-hand bowling, but you've got good results with your one-hand 917 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,880 style, why go to two-hand? 918 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,400 I think the two-handed bowling is getting a lot of people into it because they see on 919 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:49,080 Fox, they'll see, you know, the Jason Belmonte throw the big hook and they're getting into 920 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,080 it. 921 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,520 And that's good for bowling as an industry. 922 00:43:52,520 --> 00:44:00,280 But I was talking with a guy this week and it's his first year and he's already got all 923 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:06,240 the major equipment, like big expensive equipment, you know, three, $400 bowling balls. 924 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:11,160 And he throws a huge hook and he throws a two-handed and he fucking sucks. 925 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,440 He can't make a spare because he's throwing the big hook. 926 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,520 He can get strikes, but he never learned the accuracy to be able to make a spare and he 927 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:26,680 never will, most likely never will because of the two-handed bowling and the big hook. 928 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,760 He'll never be able to pick up splits. 929 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:34,360 He'll never be able to shoot corner pins ever. 930 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,360 He could, but he'd have to put in a lot more effort than I'm guessing he's going to do. 931 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,480 Yeah, yeah, because it's impressive. 932 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,040 And I was the same way when I was like 14. 933 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,040 You know, I wanted to throw the big hook. 934 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,560 Well, sometimes, I mean, sometimes you get those people that are old and they get like 935 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,800 so entrenched in their ways. 936 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,960 They won't learn how to text. 937 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,600 They won't learn how to Google something for themselves. 938 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:05,360 They won't learn self-reliance in the technical age. 939 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:10,120 And then you've got people that I would hope I fall into this second category where the 940 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,280 older you get, you realize, I don't know how to do this. 941 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,400 I better learn or I can't do this. 942 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,600 So, I better learn how to overcome that shortcoming of myself. 943 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,600 Right? 944 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,600 Like I don't know. 945 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,600 I don't lift weights. 946 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:28,200 I don't foresee myself lifting weights to do crazy bowling shots. 947 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,200 Right? 948 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,480 So, I need a style that fits my preferences or my physicality. 949 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,480 Right. 950 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,480 Or whatever. 951 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,560 You know, I mean, there's ways to overcome anything, especially now with all the technology 952 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,560 that we have. 953 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,520 You can find something that works for you regardless of it's bowling or knitting or 954 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,520 anything. 955 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,360 You can find a style or, you know, your own thing. 956 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,840 But you have to be open to learning a new way of doing it if you want to take whatever 957 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,440 that is to the next level too. 958 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,440 Oh, sure. 959 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:03,440 I mean, I was a lot less into spear shooting when I was a teenager than I am now. 960 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,200 That's my little path in life, I guess. 961 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,560 But I was forced to shoot spares a lot when I was a kid. 962 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,240 So, that was organized. 963 00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:14,240 I was trained. 964 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:16,720 Forced because you wouldn't do strikes or what? 965 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:20,200 I was trained and I had organized practices. 966 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,200 Yes. 967 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,880 And I was forced to shoot spares. 968 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,280 Forced is a very strong term. 969 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,280 But it was fun. 970 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,280 Yeah. 971 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:33,160 I'll go in and practice and all I will bring is a plastic spare ball and throw at spares. 972 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,320 Throw at the corner pins basically. 973 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:40,360 So with bowling, maybe here's a question because you've got some good balls. 974 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,440 Yes, I have a collection. 975 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,240 But your bowling balls are great too. 976 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:46,240 Yes, thank you. 977 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:49,680 Do you bring more than one ball when you go bowling? 978 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,680 Depends on what I'm doing. 979 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:51,680 Okay. 980 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,440 So I went bowling Wednesday, summer league, right? 981 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,760 And I brought one ball. 982 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:56,760 Okay. 983 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:57,760 One ball. 984 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,760 That's a new ball that I haven't really thrown a whole lot. 985 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,440 I was trying to get more of a feel for it for the season. 986 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,720 But if you're in a tournament, you bring multiple balls and then you throw one ball for a certain 987 00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:09,160 circumstance or situation? 988 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,160 Yes. 989 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,160 Okay. 990 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,240 You have to adapt to the lane pattern. 991 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:16,240 So typically, let's say I bring six. 992 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:18,040 Six is pretty much a number that I would bring. 993 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,040 Six or seven. 994 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,040 Six or seven balls. 995 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,040 Yeah, bowling balls. 996 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,040 Okay. 997 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,040 Yeah. 998 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,560 That's mind-boggling to me because I normally just go open ball and grab one off the rack 999 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:27,560 there. 1000 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,560 Yeah. 1001 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,360 No, I'd bring, most of the time I bring seven. 1002 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,360 Okay. 1003 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,120 So I have these two, three ball bags and a backpack. 1004 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:41,400 One will be a spare ball plastic if I'm going for score, which obviously it would be. 1005 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:47,600 And then I'll bring, depending on the lanes, if I know that I'm bowling at a woodhouse, 1006 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,160 I'll bring a set. 1007 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:56,120 I have three sets of six bowling balls plus a spare ball that I own. 1008 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,120 Okay. 1009 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:03,320 So I'll overlap between the ones I bring because the medium-sized houses with plastic usually 1010 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,120 have medium oil patterns. 1011 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,120 The larger houses usually have heavier patterns and the smaller houses will typically have 1012 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,240 less volume for the most part. 1013 00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:14,160 It all depends. 1014 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,880 But usually that's the way it goes. 1015 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,880 So if I'm going to an alley and I know the size, I have some insight, I'll bring a set 1016 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,080 of six that I think is going to be good. 1017 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:28,480 And that'll be a strong early, a strong late, which means that it hooks earlier and it hooks 1018 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,120 later, but they're very strong overall. 1019 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,800 The covers absorb a lot of oil. 1020 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:33,800 They're very aggressive. 1021 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,160 Two mediums and a weak and a urethane, usually. 1022 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,460 I always bring a urethane with me no matter what. 1023 00:48:42,460 --> 00:48:47,240 So two bowls pretty much go with me everywhere I go. 1024 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:49,820 Yeah. 1025 00:48:49,820 --> 00:48:55,040 But I bring a plastic spare ball and I bring my urethane of choice right now happens to 1026 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,360 be a fast pitch, storm fast pitch is what it's called. 1027 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,600 And I can use that pretty much anywhere. 1028 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,860 That's like a backup. 1029 00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:02,860 That's like the ball. 1030 00:49:02,860 --> 00:49:04,480 If I'm lost, I can grab that. 1031 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,360 I know that I can make it go strike. 1032 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,780 I know I can strike with that ball pretty much anywhere. 1033 00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:13,360 And I use it a lot. 1034 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:19,960 Unfortunately, the USBC just changed a rule that where you're not allowed to bowl major 1035 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,840 tournaments anymore with a ball more than two years old. 1036 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,440 So I'm going to have to try to find a new one because it'll be two years here this year, 1037 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,440 I think. 1038 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,440 I think it's a 2020 ball. 1039 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,440 Okay. 1040 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,520 But yeah, that's just the way things are. 1041 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:41,160 Well, I suppose to keep the playing field as even as possible. 1042 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,960 Maybe or to keep the ball manufacturers in business. 1043 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:44,960 One of the two. 1044 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,160 It's a little bit of that, I think. 1045 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:51,480 And then there's a lot of evidence that shows that the modern urethanes, specifically the 1046 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:58,120 purple hammer, as they age, they get softer and they get under the legal hardness level. 1047 00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,120 Okay. 1048 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,000 Because they have a minimum hardness that a bowling ball has to be. 1049 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,520 And there's some evidence that shows that after about two years, they all they start 1050 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,200 to get too soft. 1051 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,400 Okay. 1052 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,840 Then they banned plugged bowling balls, which screws a lot of people over because I like 1053 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:13,840 to re-drill. 1054 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,240 And yeah, there's different little tweaks like that. 1055 00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:21,280 That doesn't really affect most of my bowling at least. 1056 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:26,120 But we'll see how the state level tournaments go and different tournament stuff. 1057 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,120 Yeah. 1058 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,200 I suppose if you're bowling for fun and if you're proficient in the equipment and your 1059 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:38,000 preferences on balls and holes and covers and cores, you've got your own. 1060 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,960 If I could perform at tournaments with this setup, this would be my preferred setup. 1061 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:43,960 Right. 1062 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,400 But because I'm in a tournament, I have to alter my setup to the rules. 1063 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,400 You have to fix the rules. 1064 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,400 Yeah, yeah. 1065 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,680 But that's kind of neat too where it's like if you know enough, you know enough how to 1066 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,920 make yourself successful in the tournaments, but you've maybe got a different setup that 1067 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,960 you would personally just bowl with all the time. 1068 00:50:58,960 --> 00:50:59,960 Right. 1069 00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:00,960 Yeah. 1070 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:01,960 And they oppose the rules. 1071 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,000 So you can, if you're going to the national tournament or something, you can adjust. 1072 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,920 My strong equipment is going to be a problem because I don't throw it a lot. 1073 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,120 I throw pretty much some medium and weak equipment everywhere. 1074 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,360 So my strong equipment, I never use it. 1075 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:21,120 I have one bowling ball that I have less than a dozen games on for sure. 1076 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:26,400 I might even have less than six games on it because I never have an opportunity to use 1077 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,400 it really. 1078 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:32,600 So when you say strong and weak, is that like velocity down the lane or? 1079 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:33,600 No, no, no, no. 1080 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:39,440 You know, as the ball goes lengthwise like this, a stronger ball will start to try to 1081 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,440 hook earlier. 1082 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:46,200 It digs through the oil better and gets into the surface and it starts to get into the 1083 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,200 hook face earlier. 1084 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,200 Okay. 1085 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,560 Because you have a skid, you have the hook and you have a roll. 1086 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,560 Right. 1087 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:52,560 There's three phases. 1088 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,560 Got it. 1089 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,320 And the stronger balls will get, have a shorter skid phase. 1090 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,920 It's not necessarily left to right. 1091 00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,920 That's deceptive. 1092 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,520 It's more front to back. 1093 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,560 Okay. 1094 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:11,600 But I don't really use, I use a lot of urethane and I use a lot of medium and weaker equipment. 1095 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:20,760 So just because of the area up north, there's not a lot of oil volume unless you hit Duluth. 1096 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,600 There's not a lot of oil volume. 1097 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,680 Even yeah, there's just not. 1098 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,040 They don't, they want to save money. 1099 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,840 The more oil you put on, obviously, if you can, if you can cut a couple of mills off 1100 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:36,560 your overall volume per lane, over that length of a year, you're going to save a lot of money. 1101 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,560 Yeah. 1102 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:43,640 Would you have an interest in doing like a down and dirty bowling? 1103 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,680 Just you and me. 1104 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,680 Maybe the Serras. 1105 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:51,800 So there's a lane in my hometown in Wisconsin. 1106 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,720 The only selling point outside of it, they have some bowling lanes, is you can get a 1107 00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:59,560 pitcher of new glares for like three or four bucks. 1108 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,640 Yes, I would do that. 1109 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,640 Okay. 1110 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,120 And I think we just go there, we buy a bunch of pitchers and we just use house balls. 1111 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,120 Okay. 1112 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,200 We use, I can bring my shoes, right? 1113 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,200 We use Mike's balls. 1114 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,920 I can bring my shoes, right? 1115 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,240 I don't really care if you want to bring your own ball. 1116 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:16,640 I'm not trying to hamstring you. 1117 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,240 I just was like, Hey, it'd be fun to, you know, I'll bring some new glares. 1118 00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,600 I'll bring a spare ball, a plastic spare ball. 1119 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,600 That's fine. 1120 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,600 Whatever. 1121 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,600 I just don't want to hurt my fucking hand. 1122 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:26,600 No, that's fine. 1123 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,600 I'm just saying like, you know, if we just want even like toe to toe, it might be a fun 1124 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:31,600 little challenge. 1125 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:36,160 Like here's some backwoods bowling alley that probably might not have ever heard of oil. 1126 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,160 I don't know. 1127 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,160 They have to preserve the lane. 1128 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,800 They have to put it on a lot of these alleys. 1129 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:46,960 You say they have to, but so there is like this thing where a lot of these smaller houses, 1130 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,320 especially they won't put oil on and they just end up damaging the lane. 1131 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,320 Yeah. 1132 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,920 It's so dumb that you have to have that on there to like protect the surface from these 1133 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,920 balls. 1134 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,920 I understand that. 1135 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,920 Yeah. 1136 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,320 I'm not saying they do, but I don't, well, they understand. 1137 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,320 They just don't care. 1138 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,320 Yeah. 1139 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,320 I just thought that'd be fun. 1140 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,680 Mostly just because it would be a good, good way to drink some real cheap new glares. 1141 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,680 They can only get in Wisconsin. 1142 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,680 They don't distribute outside of Wisconsin. 1143 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:10,680 Right. 1144 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:11,680 Some of their beers are really good. 1145 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,680 Oh yeah. 1146 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:13,680 I don't really like the Spuddy Cow is fine. 1147 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,600 It's not my go-to of theirs. 1148 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,160 It's not better than fine. 1149 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,160 It's not better than fine. 1150 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,160 It is okay. 1151 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,160 It's fine. 1152 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,160 It's fine. 1153 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,160 I have a friend. 1154 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,160 Well, my fine is probably you're okay. 1155 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,160 I don't know. 1156 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:30,600 I have a friend who's originally from Wisconsin and he lives out West and he loves Spuddy 1157 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,600 Cow. 1158 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,600 He doesn't get it very often. 1159 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,600 Yeah. 1160 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:39,240 And it's like, so every time I meet this character, I try to bring him some Spuddy Cow and so 1161 00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,640 it's the best thing ever. 1162 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,640 Spuddy Cow is fine. 1163 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,840 If you're going to drink, because it's just like, it's the introductory beer, right? 1164 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:51,320 If you know a microbrewery that a lot of times they make an introductory beer that is for 1165 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,400 those people who like the Coors Light and the Bush Light and that's their equivalent. 1166 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,400 Yes. 1167 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,720 And it is to get the broadest population of beer drinkers into their establishment to 1168 00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:04,480 find something that they will find tasty. 1169 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,480 Honey Weiss. 1170 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,480 Honey Weiss is the same thing. 1171 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,880 Honey Weiss is, it's good, but it's no better than- 1172 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,880 It's fine. 1173 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,880 Yeah. 1174 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:11,880 It's no better than good. 1175 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,680 But that's what it's meant for and if you're a beer drinker and you know what your flavor 1176 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,000 preferences are, is it worth trying a Spuddy Cow? 1177 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,440 Yes. 1178 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,000 If you never had one, try it. 1179 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,000 That's their starting point. 1180 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,000 That's their flagship. 1181 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,200 That's their, you know, what they're known for. 1182 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,200 So give it a go. 1183 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,600 If Spuddy Cow is like somebody that has a whole fridge full of Coors Light. 1184 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,600 Exactly. 1185 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,600 They'll have a Spuddy Cow for their foo foo friends. 1186 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,520 That's why it's, but that's why it's there. 1187 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:41,520 Right. 1188 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:42,520 It serves that function perfectly fine. 1189 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:49,120 Just like the local brewery here, they've got a lager that's for people that drink, 1190 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,240 Coors or even Natty or whatever. 1191 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:55,200 They're for the kind of the hunters, Hillbillies, the cabin people. 1192 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,200 That's what it's for. 1193 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,200 Right. 1194 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:01,000 But they also have IPAs and Stouts and other things. 1195 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,400 And the same with New Glarus is that like their two women is really good. 1196 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,400 Yeah. 1197 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,200 And they've got a lot of other ones though. 1198 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,000 The Roadkill is really good. 1199 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,640 Just a ton of really good ones, but they have an introductory one to get people in the door 1200 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,240 and they've got other beers for more serious beer drinkers. 1201 00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:18,240 Right. 1202 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:21,960 How did that pair with the Stella? 1203 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,480 This paired really well with the Stella, this cigar. 1204 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,000 And it actually paired really well with the food. 1205 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,720 My plate is empty and Mike hasn't touched his. 1206 00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:31,680 And I've never actually smoked while eating before. 1207 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,480 So that was... 1208 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,480 I'm not a fan. 1209 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,640 That's why I'm not... 1210 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,560 I didn't know if I was, but I was really hungry because normally Mike makes me two fist it 1211 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,920 with the drinks. 1212 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,760 And today we're only doing the one fist. 1213 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,160 And then he won't feed me. 1214 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,160 I just don't think about it. 1215 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,920 I haven't ate anything today at all. 1216 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,080 If you're to be a guest, and I'm sorry, Dave, but if you're going to be a guest on the show, 1217 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:05,880 I highly recommend coming to Mike's Smoking Studio when Sarah is not working because apparently 1218 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:06,880 she feeds you. 1219 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:07,880 So that was great. 1220 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,600 And it was really tasty. 1221 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:12,600 Very excited. 1222 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,600 This has been a very good day. 1223 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:14,600 Yeah, it has been. 1224 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,720 It has been a good day. 1225 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:18,960 I did my lamp build yesterday. 1226 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,860 I rebuilt the lamp. 1227 00:57:20,860 --> 00:57:27,880 My wonderful spouse is getting into antiques and she wants to do some remodeling or refashioning 1228 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:28,880 antiques. 1229 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,260 We're not restoring to original condition and that's her goal. 1230 00:57:33,260 --> 00:57:36,200 But better than original condition, I would say. 1231 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,840 Because what you do with the lamp is similar to what my Sarah and I did with a lamp that 1232 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:41,840 we found. 1233 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:42,840 It had a huge... 1234 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,720 I can't remember what the name of it was. 1235 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:49,040 It was some huge halogen bulb base. 1236 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,880 You can still buy the bulbs, but they're terribly dangerous. 1237 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:53,880 Yes. 1238 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,360 And so we actually tore it apart. 1239 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,120 We pulled the wire out. 1240 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,480 We pulled the socket out. 1241 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:05,780 We bought a lamp kit and we had to buy a plumbing fixture to attach the modern fixture to the 1242 00:58:05,780 --> 00:58:06,780 old... 1243 00:58:06,780 --> 00:58:12,280 I don't know how old it is, but the old brass stem. 1244 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,880 And now we have an LED bulb in there. 1245 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,720 It's super safe and it works and it's great. 1246 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:18,720 But I think... 1247 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,720 I don't know if it's like reconditioning or what you would call it, but it's... 1248 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:22,720 It's refurbishing. 1249 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:28,800 Not necessarily like restoring to original because a lot of the older bulbs weren't safe. 1250 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,200 Well, yeah. 1251 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:36,640 That wiring on that lamp that you saw today, the bottom light would flicker because the 1252 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:42,120 lugs on the original socket were corroded and they just put them on there straight. 1253 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,120 And I put spades. 1254 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,120 Yeah. 1255 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:49,480 You know, I crimped it on there and it's actually going to be safe. 1256 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,920 Everything's due all listed, you know? 1257 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:59,840 So there's a lot of things like desks and dressers and tables. 1258 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,680 But the dresser that we hauled in today is... 1259 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,400 You can restore it and you can restore it to original condition. 1260 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,400 Yes. 1261 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,400 But with like lamps and things, you want to kind of refurbish where it's bringing it up 1262 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:18,640 to modern standards, keeping the original look or feel of it, but making it safe. 1263 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:19,640 Yes. 1264 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:20,640 And I like that. 1265 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,080 And a lot of the old antique furniture, if it's in good condition, all you had to do 1266 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:30,800 really is rub linseed oil on it and pre-finish the outside, which we have a huge shop to 1267 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,800 do that in here. 1268 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,360 And you have a lot of pieces out there to do that too. 1269 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,360 Oh my God. 1270 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,360 Yeah. 1271 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,200 We have one that actually was sold here in town. 1272 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,200 Okay. 1273 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,200 And we got an old... 1274 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,000 It's still got the stamps even of the store that sold it. 1275 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,000 Oh, cool. 1276 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,000 Yeah. 1277 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,000 Very cool. 1278 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,560 And we got it for real cheap, like 130 bucks. 1279 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:49,560 Okay. 1280 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:50,560 For a Hoosier table, I guess. 1281 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:51,560 Okay. 1282 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:52,560 I would call it Hoosier. 1283 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:53,560 Yes. 1284 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:54,560 Sarah calls it Hoosier. 1285 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,800 I'm like, that's Hoosier to me. 1286 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:57,800 Yeah. 1287 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,120 But an old Hoosier cabinet. 1288 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,800 It's really cool, but they painted it. 1289 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:02,800 Yeah. 1290 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:03,800 Of course. 1291 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:04,800 And you know, blah, blah, blah. 1292 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:05,800 Well, it's like our house. 1293 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:11,080 We bought our house and I don't know what was in there before, but the bank owned it. 1294 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,560 And so they refurbished or redid everything in there. 1295 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,960 And so they just put carpet. 1296 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,600 It was a fucking drug house because you had the doors kicked in. 1297 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:18,600 We had to repair that. 1298 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:19,600 Yeah. 1299 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:20,600 The doors kicked in. 1300 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:21,600 And actually we did National Night Out. 1301 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:26,520 We co-hosted National Night Out with our buddy Dave, who was a guest on the show. 1302 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,000 And the cops came. 1303 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,160 Well, because you block off the block, right? 1304 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,160 Sure. 1305 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,720 So you put the barricades up. 1306 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:38,920 Or the little, I don't know, fake soft horses up with the orange stripes. 1307 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,320 But then the police come and they visit each one and they request them to stop by and meet 1308 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:44,320 the people and stuff. 1309 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:50,640 And they came by and so we were talking to them and I was trying to ask them, hey, any 1310 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,080 crazy stories from this house? 1311 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,080 And they didn't really know about one of the other neighbors. 1312 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,080 It was like, oh yeah, man. 1313 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,080 I watched them. 1314 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,080 I watched them kick that door in. 1315 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,080 I'm like, perfect. 1316 01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,080 Great. 1317 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,080 Right. 1318 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,080 Yeah. 1319 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,360 And I could tell because I remember we ran extra wooden screws and stuff and glued it 1320 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,360 all in. 1321 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,360 Yeah. 1322 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,240 But they put carpet over this hardwood floor. 1323 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,920 So we know that we've got beautiful hardwood. 1324 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:16,080 So when our daughter is old enough to where she's not destroying everything, we can pull 1325 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,840 up the carpet, refinish the hardwood floors, and it's going to be a completely different 1326 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:20,840 space in there. 1327 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:28,440 But it's the same with sometimes people wallpaper over just beautiful things or carpet. 1328 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:33,000 My brother bought his house and the person that put carpet over all the hardwood and 1329 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,000 in the bathroom. 1330 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,520 Oh, really? 1331 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,000 And how gross is that? 1332 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,000 Yeah. 1333 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,440 Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. 1334 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,040 Even the people, unless you have one, I don't think you do. 1335 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:47,720 But they sell those things at the big box stores and even the smaller ones. 1336 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:53,360 Because you can get the padded, the cushioned toilet seat covers. 1337 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,840 They also sell the one that you're supposed to slide around the base of it. 1338 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:57,840 Right? 1339 01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:58,840 Yes. 1340 01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:59,840 You've seen those? 1341 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:00,840 And that's the grossest thing ever too. 1342 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,160 I have one in the guest bathroom. 1343 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,160 Okay. 1344 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,160 Yeah. 1345 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,160 It's not nice. 1346 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,160 No, I'm not a fan. 1347 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,160 But women look at stuff because it all looks nice and matches. 1348 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,160 You know what? 1349 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,960 I'm more of a fan of it now after this meal that was delivered to me. 1350 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:19,800 Actually, the guest room toilet, I just rebuilt the whole thing. 1351 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:24,280 All the parts are original now. 1352 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:25,280 Are new now. 1353 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,280 Yes. 1354 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,520 So it's actually working better than ever. 1355 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,520 Just a pain in the butt. 1356 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:36,320 I'm not a plumber by trade. 1357 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:41,400 I think I'm going to have to do something else because in our upstairs toilet, after 1358 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:47,480 we moved in, it started refilling all the time, every hour or less. 1359 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,200 And so it was like the flapper valve. 1360 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,480 And so I had to go and replace the flapper valve, which is you have to remove the whole 1361 01:02:53,480 --> 01:03:01,280 water tank and remove this giant PVC washer nut thing. 1362 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,680 And I'm like, oh my God, I got the toilet all disassembled. 1363 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:09,000 And I'm like, I don't have a wrench big enough for this giant nut. 1364 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,680 And I'm like, oh my God, I don't want to run back to the store because this is our toilet 1365 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,080 that we use. 1366 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:20,200 And a quick Google search was, hey, you got an oil filter wrench? 1367 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,400 Fits it. 1368 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,600 So I went out, grabbed my oil filter wrench out of my trunk and it fixed it. 1369 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,800 But now it's starting to refill again. 1370 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,080 I've noticed it queue the refill while I'm gone. 1371 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,560 And it takes too long to hold down, to flush. 1372 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,720 And there was like a set, you could set the flapper valve like zero to 10, but it didn't 1373 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,880 tell you which was faster, which was slower, what those two things meant. 1374 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,280 And so we just set it at a five because we're like, it's got to be okay. 1375 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,280 But I don't think it was. 1376 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:48,960 But I think to change it, I have to take the whole tank off or drain the water or something. 1377 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:49,960 You know how you set that? 1378 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,840 I'm not a huge fan of that. 1379 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:56,640 If you have a 1.6 or a 1.3 gallon, it's like zero. 1380 01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,880 And then if you have the old like five gallon or three gallon or whatever the hell it is, 1381 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:01,880 then more. 1382 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,780 The bigger the amount of volume, the higher the setting. 1383 01:04:05,780 --> 01:04:08,280 And then the smaller the amount of volume, the lower the setting. 1384 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,280 So I changed mine. 1385 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:16,720 Mine was a 1.65 gallon and I changed it to a 1.25 through the new components that I put 1386 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:17,720 in it. 1387 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:18,720 So it's a little more efficient. 1388 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,720 Now I have like a shit ton of empty space at the top of the tank. 1389 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:23,720 But who cares? 1390 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:24,720 Yeah. 1391 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,320 I don't know how any of that works. 1392 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:27,320 And I didn't know how it worked either. 1393 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,080 It bothers me and I don't want to tear it apart again, but I might have to. 1394 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,400 You need to go get yourself a 460 channel lock. 1395 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,880 That's like the big one. 1396 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,240 No, the big ass. 1397 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,680 They have one that they literally call the big ass. 1398 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:40,680 Okay. 1399 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,120 It's a 480 and it's even bigger. 1400 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,320 But I bought a 460 15 years ago. 1401 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,080 I've never needed anything bigger than that. 1402 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,880 And I probably, hopefully won't. 1403 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:50,880 Yeah. 1404 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:55,920 The other thing is like our tank is a little wobbly on top, but I'm afraid to tighten the 1405 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,920 bolts any further because they're pretty tight as it is. 1406 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,600 So it's just an older, it's an older toilet is what it is. 1407 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:08,280 But I just, there was such a pain to do and it's not, I don't think it's working how it 1408 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:09,280 should. 1409 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,280 So I don't know. 1410 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,160 I don't want to do a whole new toilet, but I don't want to necessarily dig into it again. 1411 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,720 So right. 1412 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:16,720 I didn't want a new toilet either. 1413 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:21,760 Of course, Sarah hates that one in the guest bathroom because it's like baby blue, but 1414 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:22,760 I love it. 1415 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:23,760 It's hilarious. 1416 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,320 I'm a big fan of the stupid stuff like that. 1417 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,840 Probably shouldn't walk around a whole lot. 1418 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:30,840 I don't know. 1419 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,000 I mean, if we're done with the cigars more or less. 1420 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,600 We still got plenty. 1421 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,560 I actually like the, so back to the cigar. 1422 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:39,560 The first half was fine. 1423 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,560 It was all right. 1424 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:41,560 It was all right. 1425 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,760 The second half I'm actually enjoying significantly more. 1426 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:44,760 Yeah. 1427 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:45,760 I think it had a nice flavor change. 1428 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:46,760 Yeah. 1429 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,040 I don't understand why these are rated so high. 1430 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,040 I don't know. 1431 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:52,040 I don't know. 1432 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,040 Name recognition probably. 1433 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,040 Yeah. 1434 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,040 I mean, and they are good. 1435 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,040 They're good. 1436 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,040 They're good. 1437 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:01,920 I think my favorite Rocky Patel so far has been the Connecticut Howitzer. 1438 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:02,920 Yes. 1439 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,160 Followed closely by the Fuma. 1440 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,120 Which is crazy that the Fuma would be that good. 1441 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,120 It was good. 1442 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,120 It was a nice smoking cigar. 1443 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,120 Yeah. 1444 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,480 It was really good. 1445 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:15,960 I like to smoke cigars. 1446 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:16,960 I don't like ones that are nice to smoke. 1447 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:17,960 I guess. 1448 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:18,960 I don't know. 1449 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:19,960 Yeah. 1450 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,920 I mean, it's nice to try all these different ones and give feedback. 1451 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:29,760 The more we smoke, the more we're able to compare and contrast within brands and even 1452 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:30,760 across brands. 1453 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:38,760 I don't know if there's a different brand of a similar kind of style and flavor profile 1454 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,040 that was better than this. 1455 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,040 What would you recommend? 1456 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,160 I don't know. 1457 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,920 I like similar flavor profile. 1458 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:48,920 Partagas Black. 1459 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:49,920 Okay. 1460 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:50,920 I like the Partagas Blacks. 1461 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,920 I prefer a Rothschild or something like that. 1462 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,840 But the Robusto is hard to go wrong with the Robusto size. 1463 01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:58,840 Yeah. 1464 01:06:58,840 --> 01:06:59,840 That's like the most common one. 1465 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:00,840 And it's very good. 1466 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,920 But I like Rothschild cigars too. 1467 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,120 The bigger diameter ones, you know, bigger gauge. 1468 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,120 Yep. 1469 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,800 And the Robusto, I'm becoming a lot bigger fan of the Robusto for whatever reason. 1470 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:14,800 Yeah. 1471 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,280 There's a reason why it's the most common size. 1472 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:17,280 Yeah. 1473 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:18,280 It's kind of like, yeah, of course. 1474 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:19,280 It's consistent. 1475 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,280 Yeah. 1476 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:21,280 It's consistent, I think. 1477 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:22,280 It is. 1478 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,280 It is. 1479 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,720 You know, even when we're doing the Moon Trance, the Torpedo version didn't have quite the 1480 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,400 same airflow, I felt. 1481 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,560 Yeah, as the Robusto. 1482 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,640 And the Rothschild in the Moon Trance is very good too. 1483 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,160 That's the first one I ever smoked. 1484 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:37,160 Okay. 1485 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:44,680 I think with the Robustos, it's somehow more consistent with the manufacturing process. 1486 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,320 They just make a lot more of them, I'm guessing. 1487 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:48,320 Yeah. 1488 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,320 I don't know. 1489 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:50,320 Whatever it is. 1490 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:51,680 But it's a popular size. 1491 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,200 If you like something different, do something different. 1492 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,200 Yeah. 1493 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:56,200 And different sizes are good for different things. 1494 01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:03,160 You know, I mean, obviously, if you smoke with those big Hollisers, you're committed 1495 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,160 to a task. 1496 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,160 Yes. 1497 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:10,040 Well, it's only a task if it's fine or worse. 1498 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,040 If it's a good one, it's not really a task. 1499 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,160 It's an enjoyment, you know. 1500 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,160 Right. 1501 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,560 But you're definitely, there's a time commitment there as well. 1502 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:20,560 Right. 1503 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,360 I'm not going to smoke it on a fucking lawnmower either. 1504 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:24,360 No. 1505 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:25,840 That is true. 1506 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:26,840 Right. 1507 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,680 I used to smoke way back when you could still smoke in the alleys. 1508 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:35,520 I used to smoke cigars when I bowled, and I would smoke a big cigar then. 1509 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:36,520 Yeah. 1510 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,200 Because you'd like one, and it would last you the whole set. 1511 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,200 Yes. 1512 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,200 And that wasn't too bad. 1513 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,200 That was good. 1514 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:43,200 Yeah. 1515 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,200 You could do a big one golfing too. 1516 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,400 You know, yeah, if you had a, especially if you had a stand to put it on. 1517 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:49,400 Yeah. 1518 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,720 They sell them at that Tobacco Grove shop. 1519 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:52,720 Oh, really? 1520 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,720 They sell those golf clips. 1521 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:54,720 Oh, that's cool. 1522 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,880 You clip them right on the golf cart, and then you can set your cigar on there. 1523 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,240 And that's cool. 1524 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:05,800 I know this is like late in the episode to start a new topic, but I get a kick out of, 1525 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,840 because there's a lot of golfers who bowl, and a lot of bowlers who golf, whatever you 1526 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:09,840 want to say. 1527 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:14,960 And I always get a kick out of the golfers who say golf is like some sort of extreme 1528 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:15,960 sport. 1529 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:16,960 Yeah. 1530 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:21,640 And then they poo poo on the idea that bowling is anything more than like a passing hobby. 1531 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,840 Kind of like they make it an equivalent to like darts. 1532 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:24,840 So it's even darts. 1533 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:29,080 If you throw a lot of darts, that becomes very sporting very quickly. 1534 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,960 There's a league for anything. 1535 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:36,320 And I played my first few games of pickleball a couple weeks ago. 1536 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:37,320 Okay. 1537 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:38,320 I like pickleball. 1538 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:39,320 And I had never played before. 1539 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:45,720 I'm used to racquetball where you've got three or four other walls that you can bounce the 1540 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:46,720 ball off of. 1541 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:47,720 Yep. 1542 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,120 And depending on how much power you put into it. 1543 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,160 So you can bounce it off the back wall. 1544 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,160 You can bounce it off the front wall. 1545 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,040 You can bounce it off the side walls. 1546 01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:03,040 And so pickleball is kind of like racquetball meets tennis a little bit. 1547 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:04,040 But it's weird. 1548 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,720 They've got some really goofy fucking rules. 1549 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:07,720 Sure. 1550 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:08,720 Like the first. 1551 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,840 So like the first you can't like be in the kitchen. 1552 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:11,840 Yes. 1553 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,560 Which is like fine. 1554 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,480 There's always like in those racquet sports, there's always a line you're not supposed 1555 01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:19,400 to cross like on the serve or the very beginning. 1556 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:26,320 But then like you have to let it bounce the first return or something. 1557 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,320 Right. 1558 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,440 So you serve and the first return has to bounce. 1559 01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:31,080 But then after that you can hit in the air. 1560 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:36,480 And so it's very difficult for me to not just wallop on something that was, you know, like 1561 01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:37,480 sometimes the ball is floating in. 1562 01:10:37,480 --> 01:10:38,480 Yep. 1563 01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:39,480 And you're like, oh, this is going to be a good one. 1564 01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:40,840 I can put it right where I want it. 1565 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,040 I can put the right amount of thing on it. 1566 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,800 So the person across the way can't get it. 1567 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,560 But then it was the first return and it had to bounce first. 1568 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,760 And then it was their point or like, you know, whatever the end of my server, whoever was 1569 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:52,760 serving it doesn't matter. 1570 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,060 But like that first return has to bounce. 1571 01:10:55,060 --> 01:10:57,920 So that was very difficult for me to like remember. 1572 01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,440 The kitchen thing is fine, I guess. 1573 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:06,560 But to remember that the first one, the first return has to bounce was like the biggest 1574 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:07,560 struggle for me. 1575 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:08,560 Interesting. 1576 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:09,560 In that game. 1577 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,680 And then there's something like 70 year old woman who just like whooped everybody. 1578 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:13,680 Oh yeah. 1579 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,600 And I'm 36 and my brothers are three and six years younger than me. 1580 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:18,600 She just destroyed us. 1581 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,440 But she's played a lot of pickleball. 1582 01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:21,440 Right. 1583 01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:25,360 You know, and that and good for her. 1584 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,360 You know, I'm not a pickleball expert. 1585 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:27,760 That was my first time ever playing. 1586 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:28,760 Right. 1587 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,720 I was using like the court rackets. 1588 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:31,720 Right. 1589 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,040 From their court bin or whatever they had. 1590 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,240 I played a lot of racquetball when I was in college and there was one of my college friends 1591 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,840 who happened to be a woman. 1592 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:40,840 Yeah. 1593 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,000 And I played against her all the time. 1594 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,600 And I don't know if I beat her even one time. 1595 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:44,600 Yeah. 1596 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:49,200 And I was, you know, it's like, holy shit. 1597 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,200 Yeah. 1598 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,720 She did shot put on the college team. 1599 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:57,680 And so she was pretty strong and she could overpower me on the racquetball court. 1600 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,200 See, this 70 year old woman was not strong. 1601 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:01,520 I wouldn't call her strong. 1602 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,520 Sure. 1603 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,760 But smart, very, very smart. 1604 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,960 You know, that's like she was playing to her strengths. 1605 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,960 Like she wasn't chasing. 1606 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,560 She wasn't chasing the ball anywhere. 1607 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:10,560 Sure. 1608 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:15,320 She knew based on how I was swinging or whatever, she could predict where it was going to go. 1609 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,320 Sure. 1610 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,960 Or she knew where she would shoot it if she were me. 1611 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:18,960 She had experience. 1612 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:25,400 She had enough experience and she had the finesse and she knew how to hit it based on 1613 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,400 her playing style. 1614 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:28,400 Right. 1615 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:33,000 So it was very difficult to try and like get a point on her. 1616 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,000 Yep. 1617 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,000 But it was fun. 1618 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,000 I like it. 1619 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,280 My middle brother bought racquets for himself because he's got a bunch of pickleball courts, 1620 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,280 right? 1621 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:42,280 Going right next to where he lives. 1622 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,280 Oh, okay. 1623 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:44,280 He's going to be able to go play a lot of pickleball. 1624 01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,960 I know there's a lot of pickleball down by me, I think. 1625 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:52,480 I've never looked up to it, but it was fun. 1626 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:53,800 Good time. 1627 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:59,280 But that one rule was just every time, not every time, I finally kind of came around 1628 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,480 to it, but I would still forget every once in a while. 1629 01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:03,880 I always played like six or eight games. 1630 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,160 But there was one other guy and he was older too. 1631 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,160 I mean, everybody was older. 1632 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:11,560 The youngest one's there by probably 20, 30 years. 1633 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:17,000 And this one guy and I was teamed with him twice in both times. 1634 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:22,240 The ball was coming right at me and I had this shot and I played racquetball before. 1635 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:29,280 So once you kind of learn the bounce level of the ball and the racquet and all that stuff, 1636 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:30,280 it's coming right at me. 1637 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:31,760 I'm like, oh, I'm going to be able to get a good shot off of here. 1638 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:37,240 He would dive in front of me to make a terrible shot. 1639 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,160 But he had played before, so he felt like he was trying to save the team and I never 1640 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,240 would have made a good shot at a ball coming at me. 1641 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,240 So I was kind of like, okay, bud. 1642 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,240 Whatever. 1643 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:51,160 I mean, everybody's more, some people are more jacked up about things than other people. 1644 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:57,000 But it was just like, don't steal the easy shots from the newbie. 1645 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,760 You'll make a hard shot on your own that's coming to you. 1646 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,560 Don't steal my shot. 1647 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,560 So this cigar is turning into a roach clip. 1648 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,320 Yeah, for me that is turned into a roach. 1649 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:08,560 It is very good at the end. 1650 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:09,560 They're very good at the end. 1651 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:15,240 I think that's probably it though for me because I'm getting really, yeah, it's getting pretty 1652 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:16,240 toasty. 1653 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:17,240 The hot finger. 1654 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:18,240 Mine's shorter than yours. 1655 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:19,240 It is. 1656 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,960 I have maybe an inch and a quarter, which would be two and a half centimeters. 1657 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,560 Yeah, maybe three centimeters. 1658 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,240 Yeah, something like that. 1659 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,360 It's starting to get hot, but it is actually getting, it's better. 1660 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,120 It's better at the end than at the beginning. 1661 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,440 So I think that'll be it for this episode. 1662 01:14:36,440 --> 01:14:37,440 All right. 1663 01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:40,000 Hope you guys have a profitable week. 1664 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,000 Yes. 1665 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,000 Thanks for listening. 1666 01:14:42,000 --> 01:15:02,320 Have a great week.