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Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Nate.

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And I'm Mike.

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What have we got here now?

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We have, as a part of our Rocky Patel Edge series, a shorter torpedo edge.

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Looks to be about six inches long, and yeah, it's kind of like the baby brother of the

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Howitzer.

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All right, and it's got the, what do you say, this is a Maduro?

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This one is a Maduro, yes.

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Very dark wrapper.

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It does have some spice.

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Does have some spice on the wrapper I tasted.

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For sure.

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Smells pungent.

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At least mine does.

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Not that that means anything.

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And I did a cross cut on this.

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All right, I did not.

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I was debating, but you know, with the torpedo ends.

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On a more moderate sized torpedo like this, I still like to do a cross cut.

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Well, it does taste a little pungent.

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Not necessarily like in a bad way.

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No, this is a stiff cigar.

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It's good, good, but definitely strong.

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As strong as the Howitzer was.

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Yes.

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The Maduro Howitzer.

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That one was almost too strong, I think.

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I think it was because of the size too.

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I mean, the thing is huge.

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Well, the size and I think, you know, we were, at least I was kind of smoking it as if it

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weren't a big strong cigar.

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So kind of crept up on me at the end there.

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That'll happen with the big strong ones.

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That is what I've heard.

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So.

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So did we, I know we'd mentioned it a few episodes back, but the Dutch farmers protests,

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did we talk about that fully or?

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I just made a quick mention of it.

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Not a whole lot.

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I'm certain that they're still ongoing.

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I haven't seen anything in American news.

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Yeah.

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I was trying to Google other, you know, lesser known protests that might be happening.

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And there's just a huge long list.

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And but the site was kind of neat.

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I don't remember what site it was, but you kind of told you when it started, how long

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it lasted and then what the political outcome was.

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And the few that I clicked on the political outcome was all nothing changed.

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So I guess, I don't know how effective protests are.

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Cause we had the Occupy Wall Street protests here and I don't think that that actually

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changed anything.

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No, it didn't.

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And I did the Occupy Wall Street protesting way back when in the city of Fargo is they

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have a huge Wells Fargo compound there.

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And not a damn thing changed.

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The cops were cool.

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Fargo is a relatively, I mean, it's not a small town, but it doesn't have like huge

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city policing issues either for the most part.

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So they weren't about to beat up a bunch of college kids.

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Well, they don't have the same mentality that the big city cops have.

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I mean, the big city cops see way more people just like driving.

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You know, if you're driving in the big city, you're going to be angry because you encounter

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you.

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You don't encounter more percentage of bad drivers, but because there's more people,

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you're encountering more numbers of bad drivers.

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The stats probably work out the same, but.

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Right.

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And we were all clearly college kids and they don't want to hurt their moneymaker in Fargo.

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So at that time, I think there was 45,000 college students in that community.

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And that's pretty big, you know, you know, an area that really doesn't have more than

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200,000 people, even with the college students.

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So I used to ride my bike around drunk and all sorts of shit.

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That's definitely illegal, but the cops just turn a blind eye to it because it doesn't

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hurt anybody.

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So some states riding a bicycle intoxicated can actually get you a DUI and points or stuff

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your driver's license even revoked and suspended.

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Which I think is stupid because you don't need a driver's license to ride a bicycle

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that I'm aware of.

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No, you do not.

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And in certain areas like downtown Fargo, they require you to ride your bicycle on the

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street.

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That's the only hard time I ever got by an officer in the four years I lived downtown

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there was I was riding on the sidewalk and he was like, get on the street.

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So they were more okay with a drunk college student driving a bicycle on the street than

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the sidewalk, which was fine.

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He wasn't that bad about it.

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He didn't even stop me.

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He just told me to go get on the street, you know?

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Yeah, I always try and take a bike path or bike lane if there's one available.

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But you know, some of those laws in some of those towns where it's like no riding on the

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sidewalk, but they didn't do anything to accommodate bicycles.

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Right.

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And Fargo is the same way.

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But this traffic is really slow downtown.

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They almost want the bikes to slow traffic down more.

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Because there's so many people walking around.

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It's actually a kind of a vibrant cool area to hang out in, you know?

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And they want the traffic to be slow.

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Which is a good thing.

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Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with slow traffic.

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Not in, you know, where there's houses and stuff for sure.

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Yeah, on the freeway that's a different story.

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Right.

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If you're on a highway or even a county road, like I'm not a fan of driving slow.

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But in city areas, I drive 20, 25 most of the time if there's houses on both sides of

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the road, you know?

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Which can frustrate people.

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But whatever.

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I'm the one that gets frustrated when people go 45 miles an hour down a county road.

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Or even I know like, you know, in a lot of the freeways, the minimum is 45, I think,

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like the legal minimum.

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So you can actually get pulled over for going slower.

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But if you're going 50 in like a 65 or 70, it's still awfully slow.

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Oh, I mean, going the speed limit a lot of times in certain parts of the freeway system

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is dangerous to yourself and others.

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You know, I know that I-94 right around Maple Grove in a work vehicle, I drive the speed

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limit and it's crazy, insane, dangerous.

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It's like being a rock in a river.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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And then on my personal vehicle, I'll drive through there and it would go 94 miles an

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hour and I'll just be with traffic.

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I won't be passing anybody.

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I'll just be with everybody else.

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It's like that's pretty fucking fast.

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So that's one less than my governor.

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But it's always fascinating driving in heavy traffic.

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So how was your weekend?

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Pretty good.

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Just, you know, I think you must have saw my Sarah sounded like.

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I didn't see her.

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Oh, you talked to her.

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On the phone.

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Yeah.

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On the phone.

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Yep.

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So yeah, her and Viv are up there and in your neck of the woods for the weekend.

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Oh, okay.

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You have chilled out at the palace.

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Yeah.

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Got to do some of my other like little personal projects instead of, you know, doing bigger

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house projects or things like that.

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So it's kind of nice.

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What about you?

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I wish I had more time to do small projects.

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Saturday we went to a huge antique fair.

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Drove down to Cambridge.

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We went to an antique fair there.

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And it was good.

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Bought a lot of stuff, of course.

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And you know, trailer it all back home.

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Was that where you found that glass set and everything?

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Oh, okay.

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That was pretty cool.

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I saw that online.

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The glass set or the...

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Or like the glasses.

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No, that USSR...

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Yeah, that stuff was cool.

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No, no, no.

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We got that up north.

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Oh, okay.

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We were screwing around up there two weekends ago.

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We got that chandelier.

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I don't know if you saw a picture of it.

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I sent it to Seren.

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I didn't see that.

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Yeah, we got a Tiffany chandelier for like 30 bucks.

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Nice.

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Can't go wrong.

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Can't go wrong for 30 bucks and other stuff like that.

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You got to get to you guys down here because Hopkins, their main street is either a sweet

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vinyl shop, a bunch of antique stores or breweries and bars.

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So it's like the perfect, perfect destination.

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Yeah.

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Oh, we went down there several years ago.

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Was I living in the Metro then?

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Probably.

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Probably.

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I know.

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That was when you and I walked down there.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how much was open though.

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I think we just walked down there to meet Sarah, my Sarah at the bar or whatever.

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Remember?

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Yeah.

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We met her at the bar and they were like super packed and then we walked around a couple

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antique stores.

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Oh yeah, a couple of them.

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So that was a good time.

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And now that you moved to the sticks, you never come down here anymore.

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Well, very rarely, unfortunately.

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We need to get down there more often.

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It's definitely a weekend adventure to go down, which is good.

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That makes it nice as far as get to see all the nice stuff and not have to deal with all

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the bad stuff because everybody's driving north as you're going south and vice versa.

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So they've got at the Minneapolis Institute of Art, which I know we talked about, I think

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last episode about different art museums and things, but I saw they've got a special exhibit

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on Van Gogh and his olive trees.

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Yes.

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My Sarah wants to go bad.

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Yeah.

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I want to go too.

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Yeah.

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We should, well, we'll have to see when you guys want to go and when Sarah wants to go.

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We could go together.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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We got to wait for her to have a weekend off again though.

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So, so is that.

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And then you both did the immersive Van Gogh experience and we did as well.

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Yes, we did.

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So maybe we should talk about that a little bit.

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Absolutely.

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For those who haven't gone.

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Or if you have gone, you can see if our opinions mirror your opinions or not.

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Yes.

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I'll guess I'll go first being not from the Metro.

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The parking situation was awful.

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And we went when Sarah had her old car.

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Okay.

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Was your location the same as ours?

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Ours was like right next to the cider company.

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Ours was in like a weird art place in like North Minneapolis, I think.

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Okay, because I think ours was raped by Sociable Cider Works and we actually just parked at

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Sociable Cider Works, drank a bunch of apple cider and then walked over.

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Gosh, I don't think that ours, maybe it was, it was like very busy, very packed full of

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stuff and no parking.

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You had to pay for parking in the parking lot and it was all ripped up and pothole filled

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and just a shit show.

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So we ended up parking, I don't know, quarter mile away and walking down the ice covered

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sidewalk, you know.

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Yeah.

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And it was a real sketchy, I thought it was pretty sketchy, you know, window is broken

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out of building sort of like.

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You might have been, I don't know if you're in the same spot or not or if they've moved.

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I don't know.

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I think they're still running it though.

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But we went in the summer or spring, so I'm not 100% sure.

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We went spring, winter.

261
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Maybe it was next, you know, I don't know if it was next to Sociable.

262
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I know I was not very happy with that.

263
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Yeah.

264
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I'm like.

265
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So parking aside.

266
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Summer's gone, you know.

267
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Yeah.

268
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And getting in was a hassle because they wanted the COVID cards and Sarah forgot her card,

269
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of course.

270
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Yeah.

271
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See, I just took a picture of mine on my phone and then saved it as a favorite in my photo

272
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album.

273
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That's what I did.

274
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Yeah.

275
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Sarah's the one that told me to do it and she didn't have it.

276
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I was like, it's so funny.

277
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So they had a weird database and it took us, you know, 25 minutes to get in there.

278
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Okay.

279
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And we bought the VIP tickets so that we had some leeway when we got there.

280
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Sarah wanted the extra poster and the weird seat cushion thing.

281
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And it was fine.

282
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She got a VIP ticket and I didn't.

283
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Let's put it that way.

284
00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,480
Yeah.

285
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But and the gift shop was horrible.

286
00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,200
Yeah.

287
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I don't know if you guys swung by there, but it was like the typical.

288
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You had to.

289
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We had to.

290
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There was no way out of it without going through there.

291
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That's right.

292
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Yeah.

293
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And they wanted to sell like Van Gogh table copy books for $150.

294
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Yeah.

295
00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,200
Everything was like crazy expensive.

296
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And it was kind of like that scene in Spaceballs where Yogurt is like, Spaceball is a t-shirt.

297
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Spaceball, they had, you know, Van Gogh umbrellas.

298
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I don't know if they had any like Starry Night thongs, but we did.

299
00:14:54,740 --> 00:14:59,360
We did each buy a Van Gogh mouse pad because they were bigger than your standard like freebie

300
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mouse pads.

301
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And I think they were only like five bucks.

302
00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,760
Oh, that's pretty reasonable.

303
00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,440
That was like the most reasonably priced thing in the entire store.

304
00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,600
We got a print.

305
00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,200
Even the Van Gogh pencils were like $20, I think.

306
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So yeah, it was crazy.

307
00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,720
Some of it was just insane.

308
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I got a magnet for my gun save.

309
00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,120
Okay.

310
00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,600
Megas are always good.

311
00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:24,600
Yeah.

312
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People were throwing money away, hand over fist.

313
00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,600
It was crazy.

314
00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:33,320
And my magnet was like an inch, you know, a square inch size and it was like five bucks,

315
00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,320
you know.

316
00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,600
It was all right.

317
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It was at the almond trees.

318
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I like that.

319
00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,520
Sarah got a print, which were pretty reasonable.

320
00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:44,520
The prints weren't bad.

321
00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:45,520
Oh, okay.

322
00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,440
It's like 20 bucks or something, which is not terrible really.

323
00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,440
Yeah.

324
00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,840
No, yeah, not for a print.

325
00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,960
I mean, like band posters are anywhere from like 40 to 60.

326
00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:54,960
Right.

327
00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,240
You know, more if they're signed.

328
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So right.

329
00:15:58,960 --> 00:15:59,960
It was interesting.

330
00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:03,600
It was not what I thought it was going to be.

331
00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,760
I thought, yeah, I was just going to say, you know, the experience, what it said online

332
00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,360
and what the pictures led me to believe.

333
00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,440
And then I walked in and I was like, this is not what I was expecting.

334
00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,040
But you carry on and then I'll tell my thoughts too.

335
00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,040
Sure.

336
00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:24,480
I thought it was going to be like an art installation where you walk through smaller rooms, maybe

337
00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,560
10 by 10, 15 by 15, something like that.

338
00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,800
I thought they were going to have the projections of the paintings on the walls so you could

339
00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:37,080
kind of, you know, pretend like you're walking through the paintings.

340
00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,920
And I assumed that like that's what I thought it meant by 3D paintings or whatever.

341
00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:42,920
Yeah.

342
00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,800
And the pictures led me to believe that from the marketing, you know.

343
00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:52,040
Yep, because they took pictures of them right by like a big, huge projected, you know, like

344
00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,600
haystacks or something.

345
00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,600
Yes.

346
00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,600
Yes.

347
00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,600
And it was in a corner, you know.

348
00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:57,600
Yep.

349
00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,520
And I thought, you know, that'd be kind of cool.

350
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,920
You walk through the exhibit or whatever and that is not what it was at all.

351
00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:05,920
No.

352
00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,840
So I guess I was expecting, you know, maybe, I don't know if it was 10 by 10 rooms or if

353
00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:15,920
they were, if they would set up like, do you remember going to, I don't know, they were,

354
00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,080
these things are huge.

355
00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:22,280
Like in older museums, the dioramas, you know, you'd like go in and it was like the 360 ring

356
00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:27,920
of, I don't know, like a painting or, you know, but it was like a 360 all the way around

357
00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,920
you.

358
00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,760
You had like walk up into the diorama room at like these museums and stuff.

359
00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,760
Yeah.

360
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,680
So I was kind of expecting something like that where they'd have multiple little pods

361
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:42,000
that had the paintings projected and you could actually go and you would be anywhere you

362
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,000
would look, there would be starry night, you know, like.

363
00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,000
Right.

364
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,000
That's kind of what I was thinking.

365
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,440
Similar, but different, you know, similar concept.

366
00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:56,600
I mean, we were both thinking like, and I remember we timed it and what it was when

367
00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,640
we walked in and you can tell me if it was the same for you or not.

368
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,340
They literally did no work.

369
00:18:03,340 --> 00:18:06,040
They rented an empty warehouse.

370
00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:15,720
They threw up a bunch of projectors and they had, I think it was an eight, eight or 15

371
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,040
minute video on a loop.

372
00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,040
Yes.

373
00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,360
And you could stay as long as you wanted.

374
00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:22,360
The big room in the front.

375
00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:23,360
Yep.

376
00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:24,360
Two rooms.

377
00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:25,360
And you could stay as long as you want.

378
00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:29,560
And so they rented an empty warehouse for whatever that costs.

379
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,480
They had probably eight projectors because there's four walls in each room.

380
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,720
They need one projector per wall.

381
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,120
So that's eight projectors figure 200 bucks a projector.

382
00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:42,600
And then boom, you're done.

383
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,480
And then you're just making bank after the first, like, I don't know, three people visit

384
00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,120
because the tickets were way more expensive.

385
00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:55,880
I mean, I would pay, I think for the experience, I mean, the video is kind of neat, but I would

386
00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,000
have rather just buy the DVD for like 20 bucks, you know?

387
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,000
Right.

388
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,200
It was well over a hundred dollars for us.

389
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,520
Yeah, it was, it was ridiculous.

390
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,160
Just for the tickets, you know, it is ridiculous.

391
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,960
And you're better off.

392
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,960
It was just a projection on the wall and it was like a section of the wall.

393
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,800
And then you could see like this is overlapped.

394
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,800
The scene.

395
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:23,800
Yeah.

396
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:24,800
The scene between projectors or whatever.

397
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,960
Yep.

398
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:33,680
You're better off going for free or making a donation at MIA and seeing a real van go.

399
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,680
Absolutely.

400
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,680
Absolutely.

401
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,880
So I was very disappointed.

402
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:44,720
You're better off getting a Greyhound ticket going out to Washington, DC for 55 bucks or

403
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,120
whatever it costs for a Greyhound ticket.

404
00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:48,120
Yeah.

405
00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:52,920
Walking through the Smithsonian, getting on back on the Greyhound and coming back.

406
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,320
Which would have been almost as long as me going down to the fucking Metro.

407
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,320
Yeah.

408
00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,720
And then walking through the ice hell, you know, the pothole infested shit show, going

409
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,480
through the line that took, you know, an hour.

410
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,040
It would have taken me the same amount of time.

411
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,040
Yep.

412
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,400
And probably less headache.

413
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,400
Yeah.

414
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,400
Oh yeah.

415
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,400
Yeah.

416
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,400
The cross country trip.

417
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,920
It was effort to get into it.

418
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,360
It would have been cool if I would have been high maybe, you know.

419
00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:28,360
That is incorrect.

420
00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:29,360
That is incorrect.

421
00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:32,360
Oh, is it really?

422
00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:33,360
Yes.

423
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:39,680
I thought when I was watching, I'm like, you know, I guess I could see if I was ripped.

424
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,080
You know what the problem was?

425
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,880
The problem is that it was like an eight minute video.

426
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,240
So it really doesn't matter.

427
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:52,160
And so it doesn't matter how much drugs or alcohol are in you.

428
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,360
It's an eight minute video or, you know.

429
00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,360
Oh, alcohol would have been a major mistake for me.

430
00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:59,280
That would have been a huge mistake.

431
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,240
Do you want Mike to get angry because Mike's about to get angry.

432
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,240
Right.

433
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,240
Yeah, exactly.

434
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:10,720
It's like, I would have been really sour.

435
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,840
But yeah, I don't know.

436
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,680
It was definitely not worth the money.

437
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,920
No, absolutely not.

438
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,320
Better served to go to the MIA or to go to the Walker.

439
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,320
Yeah.

440
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,280
You know, obviously you're not going to see Van Gogh at the Walker, but.

441
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,280
No.

442
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,400
I mean, you could even go to the Wiseman if you want something a little more off the beaten

443
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,360
path down here.

444
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:36,400
But you're probably just better off watching one of the like Willem Dafoe was in a Vincent

445
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:43,360
Van Gogh movie, which I think was fairly good because he plays he plays Vincent.

446
00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:47,560
And then there was another Vincent Van Gogh movie that came out that was animated.

447
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,720
That one's quite a bit newer, I think.

448
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:51,720
And that one was really good.

449
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,240
So you're better off like even if they were in theaters, you'd be better off buying two

450
00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,600
like Primo Deluxe 4D Van Gogh experience movie theater tickets and the expensive popcorn

451
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,040
and you'd still save money.

452
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,600
Oh, hell yeah.

453
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,600
Yeah.

454
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,600
Oh yeah.

455
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,680
Because it was extremely expensive.

456
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,880
Sarah, she didn't think it was as bad as I did.

457
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,880
Yeah.

458
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,920
But I also tend to be more negative about just everything that she is.

459
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,000
But yeah, and maybe she had different expectations going into.

460
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,000
Right.

461
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000
I think that could be some of it.

462
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:28,240
I mean, for the amount of money that the tickets were and the marketing that they did online

463
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:36,080
to show up and step into an empty warehouse that had projectors on the ceiling and then

464
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,600
for them to call it an immersive experience.

465
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,600
Right.

466
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,240
Well, we went springtime.

467
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,160
So I was wearing my Iron Rangers.

468
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,880
These are those who don't know.

469
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,920
They're like nitrile cork sold work boots.

470
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,920
Well, not work boots.

471
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,920
They like dress boots.

472
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,800
Yeah, they're nicer shoes.

473
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,800
And it was slippery.

474
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,800
I mean, I thought I was going to fall.

475
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,800
Yeah.

476
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,360
That definitely primed me to be already agitated before I got there.

477
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:04,520
Well, you were agitated before you even walked in.

478
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,520
I was agitated before I walked in.

479
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,720
We were the opposite because we had a nice dinner and then we had a couple hard siters

480
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,920
and then we just walked over and got in line and our line wasn't that long.

481
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:20,000
It only took us, I don't know, five, 10 minutes to get in.

482
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,360
We must have just had a really good time slot, I guess.

483
00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:26,360
I think it was a weeknight.

484
00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:27,360
I don't think it was a weekend.

485
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:28,360
Yeah, we went on a weekend.

486
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:31,920
I think we, I'm pretty sure we stopped by your place after that.

487
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,360
Yeah, I think so because I think we did talk about it.

488
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:37,040
Yes, we did at the time.

489
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,200
But I was still seeing like advertisements for it even when we were in New York because

490
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,960
they do it all over the country.

491
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,960
Sure.

492
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:49,680
So it's not even like a traveling show where it's like, hey, this like off Broadway theater

493
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,320
company is putting on Wicked or Hamilton or something and they're only going to be in

494
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,840
your town for like a month and then they're moving to the next town.

495
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,440
This is, it's literally in every major city.

496
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,680
Why is it still so expensive?

497
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:08,480
Yeah, they like torrented the file to some punkster who, like you said, bought a bunch

498
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,480
of shitty projectors.

499
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,080
They weren't shitty, but you know what I mean?

500
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,880
No, they were fine, but they're not, it's not like going to the IMAX at the science

501
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:16,880
museum.

502
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,880
No.

503
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,160
I mean, that's more immersive because the screen curves, the camera was designed to

504
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:29,600
film that and watching it as a film person, they did a lot of the Van Gogh's art as the

505
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:35,060
backdrop and they told the story or did some stuff and they animated little bits and pieces

506
00:24:35,060 --> 00:24:36,060
of it.

507
00:24:36,060 --> 00:24:41,080
The whole time watching it, I was like, that's how you're choosing to animate it.

508
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,600
It's like you gave somebody PowerPoint and told them to animate a Van Gogh painting and

509
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,560
then you thought, my God, this is great.

510
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,040
Let's charge a hundred bucks for people to go see it.

511
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,040
Yeah.

512
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,440
They put like the Dune soundtrack over the top.

513
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,440
Yeah.

514
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,440
That's all I remember.

515
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,440
I was like, wow.

516
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,440
Like, okay.

517
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:04,560
And the Dune soundtrack is bad ass, but it's not really like, not a Van Gogh.

518
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,560
The Dune soundtrack is wonderful for Dune.

519
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:13,240
I am not criticizing the Dune soundtrack, but I don't need to listen to the Sardaukar

520
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,240
army march.

521
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,760
Yeah, I just want to check yourself before you wrecked yourself.

522
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:24,480
Yeah, it's good, but you're not going to put that over Mary Poppins, right?

523
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,600
No.

524
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,640
It didn't fit the visuals.

525
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,640
Right.

526
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,160
Yeah, it's, I don't know.

527
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,560
But that was the only royalty free music they could find.

528
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,280
So cut them some slack.

529
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,040
It's just two guys out of their mom's basement trying to put on a Van Gogh thing because

530
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,480
they love Van Gogh.

531
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,480
Okay.

532
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,480
Oh, I know.

533
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,800
They're probably artists in residence at some government agency.

534
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,800
Yeah.

535
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:58,080
Well, you know, ever since world war two, you can't get declined to go to art school.

536
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,080
So

537
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,080
Oh man.

538
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:07,720
So I think I'm about halfway done.

539
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,040
I am not halfway yet.

540
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,440
I'm three quarters of the way or so.

541
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,440
Okay.

542
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:20,640
I should also mention that I'm fairly bad at visually estimating distances and things.

543
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,360
I'm about four inches left.

544
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:30,880
I will say I'm very bad at visually estimating things, but I feel like I'm about halfway.

545
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,800
How do you like it?

546
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:38,880
I guess I'm maybe like an inch more than my lighter distance.

547
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,160
Half an inch more than my lighter distance.

548
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,520
Because everybody can see my lighter, you know how much I have left.

549
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,520
I like it.

550
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,520
I like it.

551
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:54,600
It's not as big and bold as the Howitzer Maduro.

552
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,280
To me it has a similar flavor profile.

553
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,280
It's got a similar flavor profile.

554
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,280
Yeah.

555
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,280
It's more enjoyable to me.

556
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,280
Yes.

557
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,280
I like this one.

558
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,000
I get a lot of cedar, a very strong cedar taste from it.

559
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Yep.

560
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,560
In a good way, not in a bad way.

561
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,560
Yeah.

562
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,320
It hasn't really done a flavor change.

563
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,680
No, mine hasn't either.

564
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:25,000
It has kind of mellowed out towards the middle, but there's no new flavors or anything.

565
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,000
I like it.

566
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000
I really like this one.

567
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,040
I think the size is perfect for the strength of the tobacco, the wrapper.

568
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,600
All in all good so far.

569
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,600
I think so.

570
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,960
I'm drinking Stella right now.

571
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,360
I'm about to switch to a Northeast.

572
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:39,360
Okay.

573
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:40,760
I think that it pairs well with Stella.

574
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,400
We'll see about Northeast.

575
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:50,480
It pairs well with the Sierra Nevada hazy little thing IPA.

576
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,160
The hazies are typically a little more fruity.

577
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,160
Yes.

578
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,960
So not overly fruity or overly, but just enough to where it kind of is a nice counterpoint

579
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,320
to the strong cigar.

580
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,320
Yeah.

581
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,040
I used to be big into the pairing.

582
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,680
I always drank coffee with cigars for a long time.

583
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,160
That would be interesting.

584
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:16,080
Do we ever do like the Irish coffee with cigars?

585
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,800
We haven't drink Irish coffees with cigars.

586
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,800
We should do that.

587
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,080
I think that the sweetness would ruin it though.

588
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,200
Maybe not if you have a real strong cigar.

589
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,200
Yeah.

590
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,640
I think it depends on the cigar for sure.

591
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,640
Right.

592
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,640
Yeah.

593
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,360
I always used to drink black coffee.

594
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:31,360
Yeah.

595
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:32,440
I love black coffee.

596
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,240
That's all I drink really, unless you're going to put booze in it.

597
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,240
Right.

598
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,760
I always drink a plate pot, main coffee with anything other than just black coffee.

599
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,160
Even my cold brews, I just drink straight.

600
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,120
So do you guys have an instant pot, right?

601
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,400
Yes, we do.

602
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,340
So I saw something and I don't know where or why I saw this or how it came across other

603
00:28:56,340 --> 00:29:00,360
than to say that I get bored at work quite a bit.

604
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,960
And somebody was saying that they made, oh, because one of my friends made me join the

605
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,480
Instapot Facebook group.

606
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Oh, they forced you to.

607
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,920
Well they were like, I'm like, hey, the Instapot's cool, but I really just use it for rice.

608
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,720
And they're like, oh my God, you got to use it for all these other things.

609
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,000
And so they sent me the link.

610
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,520
So then I had to join.

611
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,440
But somebody made cold brew in their Instapot.

612
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,440
They made a huge Instapot full of coffee for cold brew.

613
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,440
What?

614
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,320
Were they just steep it in there?

615
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,320
Iced coffee or something?

616
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,320
Yeah.

617
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,920
And they used it as like a pressure cooker thing to like, I don't know how they did it.

618
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,920
I didn't read the thing.

619
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,400
So I was like, that's a lot of coffee.

620
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,400
How would you?

621
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,920
I don't know how you would.

622
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:50,920
Cold brew is like, you know, the whole beauty of it is that you just put it in the fridge.

623
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,920
Yeah.

624
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,920
Like you brew it when it's cold.

625
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,680
You don't add heat.

626
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,080
So I don't know how they did it or what they were doing, but they were like, oh yeah, it

627
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,880
was great for making cold brew for the heat wave that we had recently or whatever.

628
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,200
And I'm like, I don't know.

629
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,440
I would never think of using an Instapot for that.

630
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,400
No, I use mason jars.

631
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,400
Yeah.

632
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:14,280
Or you can get one of those big, like those big lemonade, like dispenser things.

633
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Yes.

634
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,080
Like Sarah has one, you know, this glass has got the little spigot on the bottom.

635
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,080
Yep.

636
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,280
And it's, I don't know, a couple of gallons.

637
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,280
Yeah.

638
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,480
The gasket leaks on mine, of course.

639
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,480
Yeah.

640
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,480
Always.

641
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,560
Ours has been fine and I was surprised because the gasket is actually plastic and not metal.

642
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,160
And I was like, that's the weakest part of this whole thing and that's going to fail.

643
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,980
But we've been bringing it out when we have people with kids over and stuff and filling

644
00:30:41,980 --> 00:30:45,040
that thing full of Kool-Aid and it's been fine so far.

645
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,040
So that's great.

646
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,840
I made some cold brew tea over the weekend that I had a cup of that today.

647
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,840
That was good.

648
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,840
Okay.

649
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,960
One of our friends, his wife went, has a bunch of family back in South Africa and they're

650
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:04,360
both from South Africa and so she brought us back some South African Roibos tea that

651
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,400
I guess you can only get over there.

652
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,240
I've heard of it but I've never had it.

653
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,400
Whatever the variety is, is like specific to South Africa.

654
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,800
So next time I see you I'll have to bring you, I don't know if it's in like pouches

655
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,120
or what, I don't know what the status is inside the tin.

656
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,400
I haven't opened it up yet.

657
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,440
Well, hopefully it's loose leaf.

658
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,200
You would hope it was loose leaf.

659
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,200
Hopefully.

660
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,200
Who knows?

661
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,360
I'm a loose leaf guy.

662
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,360
We've got some tea but we're not like huge, huge into the tea.

663
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,880
So if it was loose leaf, I don't know.

664
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,600
Well, actually we do have a little thing because we used to, back before, in the before times,

665
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:50,320
before the pandemic, we got one of those little, it's like a single cup tea brewer thing from

666
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,960
like, I want to say Teavana or something, but it's a little like, looks like a little

667
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,240
like travel mug with a lid that flips up.

668
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,320
When you pour the leaves, you put the leaves in there and then you put hot water in there

669
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,920
and you let it steep and then you set it on top of your coffee mug and it dispenses all

670
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,600
the stuff and keeps all the tea leaves in the thing.

671
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,600
Sure.

672
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,480
So that works pretty, pretty slick, I guess.

673
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,980
Do you have an electric kettle?

674
00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:19,480
We have two electric kettles.

675
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,240
I had one and Sarah had one.

676
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,240
Okay.

677
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,440
Like I remember I had heard about them before, but you sometimes see these like posts online,

678
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,840
like, here's the wild thing that's taking America by storm and it's an electric kettle.

679
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,720
And then you've got all the British people like, how backwards is America?

680
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,360
They don't know anything about electric kettles.

681
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,360
Right.

682
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,920
But you know, like tea isn't as big a part of our society as theirs.

683
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,400
No, I like a French press too.

684
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,400
I've had the same one since I was in college.

685
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,120
So the carafe lasted me.

686
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,120
That was like one of my handful of things I brought traveling with me.

687
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,760
And the carafe was just glass, stayed good the whole time until Sarah and I moved in

688
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,800
together and she banged it against the fucking garbage and broke, shattered the carafe.

689
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,800
On your French press?

690
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,800
On my French press, yeah.

691
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,400
And I'm like, I've had that thing for how many years, you know, it's been all over the

692
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,400
country.

693
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:24,400
Yeah, we've got a French press and then we have a, I think it's a 10 cup pour over carafe,

694
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,080
you know, with everything.

695
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:34,520
And my sister-in-law works at a coffee roasting house, a roastery, I don't know what you call

696
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,520
them.

697
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,160
Coffee roaster, I don't know.

698
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,480
Fortisserie.

699
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,840
But when they come to visit her, if we go there, she's got a little kitchen scale.

700
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,920
So she like measures out precisely the amount of coffee that is needed and the amount of

701
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,520
water and like the exact temperature of the water to pour over those beans.

702
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,880
So I mean, it's some phenomenal coffee that she makes.

703
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,680
Oh, I'm sure.

704
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,440
I'm sure.

705
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,000
I've tried to do the measuring in grams a couple of times and it's just, it's not any

706
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,800
better than when I use a tablespoon.

707
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,560
You know what I mean?

708
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,840
Well, for me, what I usually do is I just, I mean, we grind our coffee, you know, we

709
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,360
buy the whole bean grind it and then I just program it to be done when I wake up, you

710
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:28,400
know, so I don't really have time during the week anyway for fancy coffee shenanigans.

711
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,400
Right.

712
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,280
I try to drink cold brew during the week.

713
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,280
It's easy.

714
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:40,000
It's summertime right now, so it's fine.

715
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,600
In the wintertime, you know, I guess if maybe if I woke up 15 minutes earlier, I could drink

716
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,800
some French press coffee.

717
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,800
Yeah.

718
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,320
What is your sister a lot?

719
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,320
Does she make it?

720
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,320
She make it in a French press or?

721
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,040
No, well, no, she does it in the pour over.

722
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,760
So and she's got, because, and so that's why we, well, we didn't have to buy a pour over

723
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,760
thing.

724
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,520
Something like that.

725
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,000
Yeah, I think that might even be the brand, but it's, I know it's like bulbous on the

726
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,640
bottom and flat and then it's got a like a plastic kind of like neck collar thing and

727
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:20,000
then it comes up into a like a funnel shape up top and then it has a insert just like

728
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,480
your drip drip brew coffee maker would have, you know, so you put all the grounds in that,

729
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:31,100
you know, it's like metal mesh and and it's got a spout and so it's got the plastic thing

730
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:34,400
around the neck so that once you've done doing the pour over, you can pick the thing up and

731
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,400
pour it into a cup.

732
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,080
You know, you take the grounds basket out and do that.

733
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,200
But with the pour over, we and we have a little stainless steel hot water thing with a long

734
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,080
spout and so apparently the way it works is you you fill that thing with, you know, the

735
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:55,480
right temperature water and then you systematically like pour it and move it over the grounds

736
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,200
and it's coming out of a tiny little spout.

737
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:04,760
So your your goal is to have the water touch as much of the coffee grounds as possible

738
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,180
and because you're controlling the flow, you can like pour it through and let that stuff

739
00:36:09,180 --> 00:36:13,220
kind of filter through before you add more water and you can make sure every area of

740
00:36:13,220 --> 00:36:14,220
it is wet.

741
00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:19,080
So it's kind of, you know, a lot more.

742
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:25,560
I don't know how you would say, but you know, it's it's very system oriented or, you know,

743
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,120
like you have to cover every bit bit of it, but you have so much control over it and she's

744
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,120
done it a lot.

745
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,840
So when she makes it, I mean, it takes a lot of time to brew the 10 cups for the for the

746
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,920
thing, but it's phenomenal when she does.

747
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,120
And I've tried it on my own too, and it's it's pretty good.

748
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,880
You know, I think I might be a little impatient because you have to be really patient, I guess,

749
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,240
with the pour over.

750
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:50,360
Sure.

751
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:59,440
I bought a it's one of the bonds, but it's not the standard one you get from, you know,

752
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,600
the target.

753
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:06,720
It's certified by the Fancy Coffee Drinkers Association or whatever it is in America.

754
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:11,320
And it's got the right brew temperature and it's okay.

755
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,320
Right.

756
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,560
Water, the speed at which it puts the water out.

757
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,120
And it takes like 17 minutes to brew a pot of coffee.

758
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,160
And that made a huge difference in the quality of brewed coffee.

759
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,560
I don't have time for that.

760
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,880
I'll just set the timer and let it go.

761
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,880
Yeah.

762
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,240
Yeah, we've got a I think it's a Cuisinart and it's a fairly expensive one.

763
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:37,080
It's got the metal basket so you don't have to use the paper filters.

764
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,080
Right.

765
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,080
Yep.

766
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,080
And that's slick.

767
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,360
And then you can control like it's got the bold setting and it's got a setting for if

768
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:49,920
you're brewing like less than four cups, which who's going to do that?

769
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,920
Not me.

770
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,960
Yeah, we always brew like a full pot.

771
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,720
But then you can set the hot plate temperature too, you know, for like low, medium or high

772
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:01,320
so you don't ever end up with like burnt coffee.

773
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,320
Sure.

774
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,960
So I'm sure it's not as fancy as yours, but it's fancy.

775
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,720
This fancy is the one that we've had.

776
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:12,680
It sounds way fancier because mine is just like you bruise it and then it's got an eating

777
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,680
pad.

778
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,680
It's very simple.

779
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:20,320
It's as simple as a bun, but the components in it are extremely high quality.

780
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,960
Well I'm sure your components are better than our components.

781
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,800
Oh, I don't know.

782
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,800
I don't know.

783
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,120
We're not doing a coffee maker showdown.

784
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:38,240
All I'm saying is that, you know, with coffee makers, usually I would say or I would think

785
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:42,240
that the more you spend on a coffee maker, the better your coffee is going to taste.

786
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,840
Generally, unless you get a French press.

787
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,840
Unless you get a French press.

788
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,280
That's just the best that I've ever consistently at home.

789
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,520
Why is it so easy?

790
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,520
Right.

791
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Yeah.

792
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,840
You pour it in.

793
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,280
I've checked out different methods.

794
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,280
Yeah.

795
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:04,680
I watched James Hoffman videos and he's got a very specific method to brew in a French

796
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,920
press and I've tried it and I don't think it's better.

797
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:08,920
Yeah.

798
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:14,320
That just pouring it in, setting the timer for five minutes and pressing it down and

799
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,320
pouring it out.

800
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,320
Yeah.

801
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:23,160
I think the caveat is, you know, if you're making really crap coffee, don't go out and

802
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,240
spend like 200 bucks on a coffee machine.

803
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,280
Right.

804
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:35,760
Because the difference in the taste is probably going to be mostly imperceptible if you don't

805
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,220
and I don't have a highly tuned palette so I'm not trying to sound like an asshat by

806
00:39:39,220 --> 00:39:42,400
saying if you don't have a highly tuned palette, you're not going to notice the difference

807
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,400
in this coffee.

808
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,880
But it's probably like the beans you're using, you know.

809
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Right.

810
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,880
And sometimes it's the grinder too.

811
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,440
And sometimes it's the grinder and that's what I want is I want to get a really nice

812
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,920
burr grinder, but they're like expensive.

813
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:02,320
Well, the Barazas are 140 bucks and that's about the standard.

814
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,320
Yeah.

815
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,960
From my research, which I own a Barazas as well and there's a local coffee place that

816
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,720
I visited and they make beans there or they roast beans and that's what they use at home

817
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:15,720
too.

818
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:16,720
It's a Barazas.

819
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:17,720
Oh, okay.

820
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:21,280
And they're 140 bucks so it is expensive.

821
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,680
I bought a really nice hand grinder.

822
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:33,080
It's stainless steel with, you know, the burr grinder in it and for camping.

823
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,520
And I bought a really nice like camping coffee pot.

824
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:42,520
Well, you know, percolator is one of the percolators for camping, but it makes a mean cup of coffee

825
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,900
with the grind because you can set your, just like a burr grinder, you set your desired

826
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:51,960
coarseness or fineness and you just hand crank it.

827
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,480
Yeah, we just have, I think it's a Cuisinart grinder, but it's just got the blades in the

828
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,480
bottom.

829
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,480
Sure.

830
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,000
Yeah, but it's a Barazas on the door.

831
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,040
And I think you really need, you really need like one of those burr grinders or something

832
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,600
where you can set the coarseness for like a pour over.

833
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Yes.

834
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,120
And for, and even for French press, you know, like if you can get your, it makes a huge difference

835
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,560
to grind size, the right size.

836
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:22,880
Espresso and obviously pour over for the French press.

837
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,320
And it's nice to have something like that.

838
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,480
I used to have a blackened decker and it was like, it was like 50 bucks and it worked for

839
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,840
years and it was actually really good.

840
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,040
But the Barazas way better.

841
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,040
Yeah.

842
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Well, yeah.

843
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,200
And I would say, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, cause I'm not a huge like coffee

844
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:47,360
snob, but I do know that after we first got introduced to Trader Joe's, like a lot of

845
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,440
the stuff Trader Joe's has is like really great for the, for the price.

846
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,440
Yeah.

847
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,440
Really good quality.

848
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,680
Their coffee, however, is not, we tried a couple different other coffees and it was

849
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:02,440
like the grossest coffee we've had for a long time, unless that's the coffee that you'd

850
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,280
like to drink, Mike, or you, the listener, like to drink.

851
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,280
That's my favorite coffee in the world.

852
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Happy to drink, drink a cup with you.

853
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,040
But you liked the beer that I brought you from there.

854
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,080
The beer was awesome.

855
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,080
Yeah.

856
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,880
That was a truly wonderful beer, which I like beer.

857
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,320
So yes, hard to go wrong.

858
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,920
They've got some really good ethnic foods.

859
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,360
I feel like they've got a really good like frozen Mandarin chicken thing.

860
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,040
Oh, and they've got some really good Indian, they're not microwave meals.

861
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,800
I mean, all of the stuff you can make in the microwave, but they all come with like oven

862
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,720
instructions and the thing with Trader Joe's is always go with the oven instructions is

863
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:46,560
going to taste really good versus the microwave instructions, which yeah, it might be ready

864
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:52,440
sooner, but it's not going to make you want to buy it ever again.

865
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,760
The same is true with coffee, you know, like if you are used to drinking Folgers, like

866
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,440
Sarah's parents, they used to drink a lot of Folgers and flavored coffees and then we

867
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,360
brought some coffee up or they had some coffee at our place and they're like, oh my God,

868
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,840
your coffee is so good.

869
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:07,840
What do you guys do?

870
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,360
And it's like, we just use the Camerons or whatever.

871
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,000
I think it's the local to us, Minnesota.

872
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,160
Yeah, they're statewide.

873
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,160
They sell it at like every grocery store.

874
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,800
Well, yeah, but you know, it's cheap and it tastes good.

875
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,520
You know, depending on the variety or the roast that you're buying, but yeah, it's not

876
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,520
crazy.

877
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,360
I mean, a lot of communities now even have roasters.

878
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,000
Um, no matter like even rural areas will have a roaster or two.

879
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,000
Yeah.

880
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,400
That's the same like with the micro breweries and stuff.

881
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,400
Yep.

882
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,320
You know, a lot of communities have those now.

883
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,880
I think that the roasters are usually pretty good.

884
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,960
I know breweries and this is my opinion.

885
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:54,400
There's a huge difference in quality between brewers depending on who's doing it.

886
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,400
Yeah.

887
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,680
Well, and, um, but I think that's like the other thing too is like a lot of the breweries

888
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,440
you can go to and you're like, yeah, the beer was fine, but what, what one did I like or

889
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,280
what one did I drink or you're like, you don't even remember because they all just kind of

890
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,560
taste the same.

891
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,680
If you go to enough like micro breweries, unless they really know what they're doing

892
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,720
and you know, it's not just like a quick cash grab for them, you know, it's like, oh yeah,

893
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:23,560
I really love this beer at this brewery and I can't find that same flavor anywhere else.

894
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,280
But by and large, like most of the micro brew IPAs all tastes the same.

895
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,040
All the sours tastes the same.

896
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,960
All the lagers, all the stouts, they're all kind of like very, very similar unless you

897
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,280
find some of those really good ones.

898
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,880
Um, right.

899
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,320
Which is maybe like the immersive sours.

900
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:45,440
Uh, I've been to a few of them where they actually make the sours with fruit, real fruit,

901
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,880
like they get a delivery and then it's good.

902
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,880
But you're right.

903
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,880
Yeah.

904
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,880
Yeah.

905
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,120
The IPAs especially, it's all the same dog roll, you know, which I'm not a fan of IPAs

906
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,480
in general anyway, but

907
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,480
I like IPAs.

908
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,760
Um, but I've, I've gotten more into the hazies.

909
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,840
Uh, and I mentioned this before on the podcast too.

910
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,560
Uh, I think there's more flavor, more like it's not the full like kick you in the face

911
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,240
hops, you know?

912
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:12,760
The hazies I think are a little more complex tasting.

913
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,160
I might just be full of shit, but

914
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,640
I drink a lot of goose Island.

915
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,640
Goose Island's really good.

916
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,640
I like goose Island.

917
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,640
They have it at a lot of bowling alleys.

918
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,640
Yeah.

919
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,640
Which is why I drink it.

920
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,520
You really can't go wrong with goose Island.

921
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:26,520
Right.

922
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,840
They'll have a, for those who are not acquainted with bowling alleys, most of the time they

923
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,600
have like Miller Lite, Bud Light, stuff like that.

924
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,760
Then they'll have one beer that is not Miller Lite, Bud Light, Coors Light, and it'll typically

925
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:41,760
be goose Island.

926
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,200
The distributors up North here must have it for cheap.

927
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,360
You know, they usually sell for 25 cents more a can or something like that.

928
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,760
It's a Chicago beer.

929
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,360
Oh, I didn't know that.

930
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,320
And uh, Fulton, Fulton is really good.

931
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,360
And that's a Minnesota beer, you know, Minneapolis.

932
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,160
Their brewery is right by the twin stadium.

933
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,240
And we actually went because they got big enough to no longer be able to legally sell

934
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:08,760
growlers on premises.

935
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,840
So we went to their death of the growler party and that was pretty cool.

936
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,840
Oh, that's cool.

937
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,840
Yeah.

938
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,560
They were complaining about that at Castle Danger too.

939
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,560
Oh yeah.

940
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,560
Yeah.

941
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,880
They didn't want to do what Bent Paddle did, which is too bad.

942
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,880
Yeah.

943
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,460
What did, I've never been to Bent Paddle.

944
00:46:27,460 --> 00:46:28,460
What did they end up doing?

945
00:46:28,460 --> 00:46:30,520
Did they shut down their tap room and stuff or?

946
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,520
No, no.

947
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,360
They have, they, uh, they're, uh, located in the old warehouse district, like the old

948
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,360
industrial area.

949
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,360
Yeah.

950
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,360
I've driven by it before.

951
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,360
We've just never had gone.

952
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,360
We always usually go to, uh, Fickers.

953
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,360
Oh, okay.

954
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,360
Yeah.

955
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,360
Yeah.

956
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,280
So they're kind of by frosts, but they have a separate building, their original building

957
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,280
for brewing.

958
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,000
And then they bought another space and then they opened up a tap room and that's all it

959
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,000
is, the tap room.

960
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Oh, got it.

961
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Yeah.

962
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Okay.

963
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,000
And it's in the same area.

964
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,440
You know, what's that other brewery, um, downtown there?

965
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,680
Cause Castle Danger's outside of town, but there's a one right by the.

966
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,520
Castle Danger's in two, two harbors.

967
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,000
Yeah, that's two harbors.

968
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,560
But, um, in Duluth there, there's like Bent Paddle in the warehouse district.

969
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,560
But then if you're over in the, uh, what's the, that park by the bay.

970
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,560
We were there.

971
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Gosh dang it.

972
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,560
I can't remember what it's called.

973
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,560
Are you talking about in Superior?

974
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,560
Cause there's a brewery over in Superior.

975
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,560
No, in Duluth.

976
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,840
It's right in Duluth, right by the, uh, it's a couple blocks from like, from the maritime.

977
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,440
No, Lift Bridge is out of Stillwater.

978
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,440
Lift Bridge.

979
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,440
No, no, no.

980
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,440
Yeah.

981
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,840
It's right over the big hotel there next to the, uh.

982
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:33,840
Yeah.

983
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,840
Yeah.

984
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,760
And then like the candy, the candy chocolate shop is like right there.

985
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,680
And then you walk a little further and like the maritime museum is down there.

986
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,680
Is that called Highland Park?

987
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:41,680
No, Highland Park.

988
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,680
What's the name of that damn park now?

989
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:45,680
I don't know.

990
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,080
Uh, I think it's named after the park.

991
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,080
That's right there.

992
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,080
I remember that one being pretty good.

993
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,720
Yeah, but I would like to go to Bent Paddle at some point and I'd like to actually go

994
00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:57,720
to Castle Danger.

995
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,800
Cause I do like the Castle Danger beers.

996
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:01,800
Uh.

997
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,720
There's a third brewery in Duluth too.

998
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:05,720
And that was okay.

999
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:07,720
They kind of all tasted the same at that one.

1000
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:10,440
But that's kind of like in the middle of a residential neighborhood.

1001
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,440
It's like Northman Brewing or something.

1002
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,440
Yeah.

1003
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:20,440
Well, and you know, I mean, to be fair, almost anything you get fresh from a brewery is going

1004
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:26,440
to be better than anything you can get in like cans or bottles at a liquor store.

1005
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,480
So you know, I'm not, I'm not trying to say like, Hey, don't open a brewery if all your

1006
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,640
beers taste the same or all your beers tastes like the other breweries beers, because on

1007
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:41,900
tap beer that's not, you know, bud is going to taste better than anything else.

1008
00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:44,440
So it's not, it's not really like a diss on any of that stuff.

1009
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,680
It's just, you know, I don't, when we first moved down here, we were like, Hey, we got

1010
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,400
to go to all these breweries and then more opening up like every week.

1011
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,960
And it's like, we just, we can't make it to all these breweries.

1012
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,480
We don't have enough time.

1013
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,240
They're not all unique enough, you know, to warrant.

1014
00:48:57,240 --> 00:49:01,000
So you got to find, you know, a couple of breweries that are close to you that you like.

1015
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:08,200
So there's a brewery in superior, maybe half a block from the anchor bar.

1016
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:13,200
And we had their Imperial stout and it was one of the best beers you've ever had.

1017
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,200
It was wonderful.

1018
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,000
I can't remember the name of the damn brewery now, but Google maps will tell everybody.

1019
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:23,160
I would be very interested in trying that Imperial IPA because I do like the Imperial

1020
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,160
IPAs.

1021
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,640
But no, they're, it was good.

1022
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:31,680
And that was during the pandemic and they just opened up kind of like the old school

1023
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,160
walkup order counters that you see in the Imperial Queens.

1024
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,160
They have that on the side of the building and you could just kind of like get it.

1025
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,120
It was really good.

1026
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,080
And of course we went to the anchor bar.

1027
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,760
Who doesn't want to go to the anchor bar?

1028
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,960
But if anybody, if anybody has not gone, who's listening to the anchor bar and you are in

1029
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,360
Duluth area, go to the anchor bar.

1030
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,480
It's worth every penny.

1031
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,480
It's not even expensive.

1032
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,800
It's super cheap, but it is, it's really good.

1033
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,280
So have you ever been to the anchor bar?

1034
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,320
I do not believe so.

1035
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,320
Really?

1036
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,320
Gosh.

1037
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,760
So I haven't, are you talking about earth earth rider brewery?

1038
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,360
Yeah, I think it might be earth rider.

1039
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,640
Is it right next to the anchor bar and superior?

1040
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:27,320
That's saying whiskey's last resort lost in the fifties is close.

1041
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,960
Is he's barbecue.

1042
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,560
This is, yeah, it's just, it's right down the corner from the anchor bar.

1043
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,560
All right.

1044
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:35,560
That's gotta be it then.

1045
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,560
Yep.

1046
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,560
I think I've been to the earth rider.

1047
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,560
Yep.

1048
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,560
Earth rider.

1049
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,560
That is the location.

1050
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:41,560
Yes.

1051
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:42,560
Right there.

1052
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,560
Yep.

1053
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,560
I've been to earth rider.

1054
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,520
I haven't been to the anchor bar, but I've been to earth rider, but I don't know if I

1055
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,360
had their, I don't know if I had their.

1056
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,080
Imperial or not.

1057
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,080
It's good.

1058
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,080
Yep.

1059
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,080
Very, very good.

1060
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:01,160
So, and then, yeah, next time you go, go to the anchor bar.

1061
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,160
It's definitely.

1062
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,160
All right.

1063
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,240
We should do, we should do a nice Ash's road trip up there.

1064
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,120
Yeah, we could.

1065
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,120
We could.

1066
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,000
See if they'll sponsor a lunch for us or something.

1067
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,000
Oh, it's cheap enough.

1068
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,000
We can sponsor our own lunch.

1069
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,000
I know.

1070
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,000
I'm just saying.

1071
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:22,160
My brother and I went there when he, he, that was one of his haunts when he was younger.

1072
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,160
Okay.

1073
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,160
We went there.

1074
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,120
It was like $5 for a pitcher of grain belt.

1075
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,120
Oh yeah.

1076
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,120
Yeah, like $5 for a pitcher of grain belt, like $3 for a burger.

1077
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:36,000
It's like Wisconsin is the greatest when it comes to drinking.

1078
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,600
And I'm from Wisconsin, but I never drank when I was there because my dad was super strict.

1079
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:47,120
And that wasn't one of the issues I wanted to like press him on as a high schooler.

1080
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,520
But anyway, we went, I don't know if I told this story on the podcast or not.

1081
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,920
And if I did, I'm sorry, everybody listening, but we went back for a, like a white tails

1082
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,440
unlimited thing.

1083
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:03,160
And I went up to the, and they had special pricing then, right?

1084
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,720
Cause it's a, like a big banquet, you know?

1085
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:07,920
And but it was at the American Legion.

1086
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,240
So it's not in a small, small town.

1087
00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:15,840
And so we go there and I go up to the bar and I'm like, Hey, I'd like a two spotted

1088
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,520
cows because you can only get a new glare spear in Wisconsin.

1089
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,520
And like, okay, three bucks.

1090
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,440
And I'm like, okay, three bucks each, right?

1091
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,280
And they're like, no, three bucks total.

1092
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,080
And I'm like, are you shitting me right now?

1093
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,000
Like spotted cow on tap for a dollar 50 for a pint.

1094
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,940
That's awesome.

1095
00:52:32,940 --> 00:52:39,120
And we went back later, you know, months or a year later, I mean, we'd been back before,

1096
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:44,320
but like the next time Sarah and I went out drinking, we went down to the bowling alley,

1097
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,320
which you would love.

1098
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:53,480
You've got, I think three and a half lanes and, but we were like, okay, so how much like

1099
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,480
for new glare?

1100
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,080
It's like, ah, it's, you know, like $3 for a pint, which is like fucking dirt cheap.

1101
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:03,080
It's like eight to 10 bucks for a pint of anything on tap down here in the twin cities.

1102
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,480
And I was like, okay, well, how much for like a pitcher and like, ah, five bucks or whatever.

1103
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:14,800
And I'm like, all right, like, so we've got like two pitchers instead of like two pints.

1104
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,280
And the great thing about Wisconsin is they don't care.

1105
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,280
They're like, Oh, you want like 15 pitchers?

1106
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,280
Great.

1107
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,280
We'll pour up.

1108
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,280
We'll bring them over to you.

1109
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,200
We don't need to check IDs or see who's all drinking.

1110
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,320
Like if you want to drink 15 pitchers, that's on you.

1111
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,320
You know, they just don't care.

1112
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,880
No, they don't give a shit.

1113
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:37,920
There was a beer bar, uh, that why I used to go to with a friend and they had $3 pitchers.

1114
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,920
Nice.

1115
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,720
And it was, it's like a race.

1116
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:47,600
It was $3 during happy hour and like four or 50 during regular hours.

1117
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:48,600
Yeah.

1118
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:49,600
In college once.

1119
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:55,760
And this was, um, I went to school at, in the university of Oklahoma and they, they

1120
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,620
made it into a dry campus because like a frat guy got drunk and decided to play chicken

1121
00:54:00,620 --> 00:54:06,280
with a train coming at him while he was on foot and he was drunk.

1122
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,540
And so they, you know, like they overreacted and like, it was a dry campus now.

1123
00:54:09,540 --> 00:54:12,920
And if you're, even if you're a legal drinking agent, you get caught with booze in your dorm

1124
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,200
room, then you're like going to be in trouble or something.

1125
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,600
There's this bar just off of campus and my roommate and I, we went there and they're

1126
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:25,660
like, it's happy hour for another like 10 minutes and we're doing dollar pints.

1127
00:54:25,660 --> 00:54:27,400
And so I was like, oh, okay.

1128
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,640
I will take 10 please.

1129
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:30,640
And she's like, what?

1130
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,180
Like, I would like 10 beers put in front of me.

1131
00:54:34,180 --> 00:54:37,100
And she's like, okay.

1132
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:41,440
And then my roommate goes, I too would like 10 beers.

1133
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,720
So I have a picture of us somewhere.

1134
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,580
We've got 10 beers in front of us each.

1135
00:54:45,580 --> 00:54:52,240
So we drank 20 beers that night for, you know, 10 bucks, you know, 10 bucks each.

1136
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:53,240
That's awesome.

1137
00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:59,440
There was a bar in downtown Fargo called the old Broadway and they would do 25 cent beers

1138
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:00,960
and you had to order two.

1139
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:01,960
Okay.

1140
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,480
And you can only order four at a time.

1141
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,440
And they were like six ounce beers.

1142
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,800
They were just little tiny ones.

1143
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,800
Yeah.

1144
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,600
But what you do is you would just continually walk.

1145
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,200
You'd have one guy sit there and you would sit at your table and you would just walk

1146
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,440
back and forth and you'd get beers and you would stack the beers up in like a pyramid

1147
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,520
where the table was full.

1148
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:28,320
And then you'd start to drink because it was a quarter of beer, you know, whatever.

1149
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,320
Yeah, for sure.

1150
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,120
And it's like, you know, 50 cents for a 12 or it's like, who gives a shit?

1151
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,120
Yeah.

1152
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,480
And they would let you stack them up.

1153
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,240
They just wouldn't sell you more than four at a time.

1154
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:39,240
Yeah.

1155
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:45,180
Well, that's like the legal thing kind of gets in the way of what it's intending.

1156
00:55:45,180 --> 00:55:50,560
And at 20, you know, like even at six ounce of beers, it's going to take a long time to

1157
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:55,240
drink enough to be like completely unruly or blackout, you know.

1158
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:56,240
Right.

1159
00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:01,640
Well, I know that certain Western states, they can only serve you two drinks at a time.

1160
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,800
So you'd always get a liquor drink and a beer, you know.

1161
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:11,640
Well, and sometimes like sometimes here in the cities, they ask for IDs.

1162
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,640
Like if you go and order two beers, they say, well, I need to see two IDs.

1163
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,040
That might just be at like concert venues though.

1164
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,120
I'm not sure.

1165
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,280
I've never had that problem at concerts.

1166
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,800
They've always given me two beers, no problem.

1167
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,800
Yeah.

1168
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,160
And I can't remember where it was, but I remember somebody was doing that.

1169
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,720
A couple of places we went to were doing that.

1170
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,080
And I'm like, this is the stupidest fucking thing ever.

1171
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:38,440
I can go and buy like a 12 or 24 pack from the store and they're not checking for 24

1172
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,560
IDs, you know.

1173
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,560
Right.

1174
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,560
Yep.

1175
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,760
If you think I'm, if you think I'm out of line, you cut me off.

1176
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,920
I'm like, I'm going to have to pay you for 13 bucks at a gas station.

1177
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:50,920
Yeah.

1178
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,760
Or any, any shop that you stop in at, you know, your tire went out and you stop and

1179
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,400
some neighbor or some like residential house like comes out and they help you and they're

1180
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,560
like, Hey, you want like a spotted cow or something while I fix your tire?

1181
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,560
And you're like, shit.

1182
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,560
Yeah, son.

1183
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,960
So actually we went, go ahead, go ahead.

1184
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,240
We went, well, I think it was the first time I went to St. Louis because Sarah's got a

1185
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,120
bunch of family down there.

1186
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:19,920
And her cousin who's our age was working as a tour guide for the city at the time.

1187
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,120
He goes, I got to take you to the shop.

1188
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,280
It's the coolest shop ever.

1189
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,160
We walk in and of course like Anheuser-Busch is right there.

1190
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,400
So they've got all the, but they've got a lot of really cool microbreweries too.

1191
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,960
But we walk into this shop, you know, and it's like, I don't know, you know, it's kind

1192
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,320
of like one of those touristy, but not like super like lame touristy where it's like,

1193
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,600
you can get your St. Louis magnets and you, you know, but it was like a more unique shop

1194
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,920
than like your standard tourist trap shop.

1195
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,640
And it was run by this really old woman and she's like, Hey, would you like a beer while

1196
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:48,640
you shop?

1197
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,520
And I'm like, yes.

1198
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,280
She goes back to the fridge and help yourself.

1199
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,880
Oh my God.

1200
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,280
She had it like stocked with, you know, Budweiser or whatever.

1201
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:05,440
And I was like, fuck yeah, I'll, I'll drink a Bud while I'm perusing your shop.

1202
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,440
That's great.

1203
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,160
She didn't charge us for the beer, but I bought something from her cause you can't not buy

1204
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,840
something after she's like, here, have a beer.

1205
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,520
It's a great sales pitch in a way.

1206
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,200
You know, you're guaranteeing it's still damn near.

1207
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,200
Yeah.

1208
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:23,400
So they have the drive through liquor stores in South Dakota, at least they used to.

1209
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,400
Yeah.

1210
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,560
And we, uh, I was visiting a girl I was dating at the time, a woman, and uh, we went through

1211
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:34,400
the drive through and we got some liquor and we ordered, she's like, Oh, watch this.

1212
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,360
And she ordered a, like a fosters, you know, a can of fosters.

1213
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,360
Okay.

1214
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,640
And they gave it, they gave us the fosters in a paper bag, no way we were going to open

1215
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,640
the fosters and drink it in the car.

1216
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:52,400
So we drove out of the liquor store, out of the drive through.

1217
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,400
Yeah.

1218
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:58,120
I do like the, I do like the liquor stores where you can buy a per can and you can do

1219
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,920
that at Trader Joe's is you can open most of the packages, most of the six packs and

1220
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,960
you can buy a per bottle or per can.

1221
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:06,960
Oh, that's cool.

1222
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:12,760
I mean, I was buying like the six pack because like, why wouldn't I?

1223
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,720
But, but yeah, if you want to try a bunch of different beers, like the beer walls are

1224
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,160
slick, you know, build your own six pack or whatever.

1225
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,160
Yeah, they are.

1226
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,760
They're obviously more expensive, but you know, a lot of stuff I'd really don't want

1227
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:24,760
more than one of anyway.

1228
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:25,760
Yeah.

1229
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,760
Yeah.

1230
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,760
Who knows what you're going to get.

1231
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:36,040
No, that's, I don't know, Manny stayed making everything horrible.

1232
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:43,600
I know that when I first lived in North Dakota, a DUI there was 13 points on your license

1233
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,240
and they have a point system there at 15 points revokes your license.

1234
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:54,080
So if you get a DUI, it was like a trip to jail and it was a traffic violation and it

1235
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,680
was 13 points on your license and your insurance and everything is based on the points.

1236
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,760
So as your points go down, your insurance goes down, you know, and every six months

1237
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:03,760
a point drops off.

1238
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,680
So your punishment is you have to pay expensive insurance for the next seven years.

1239
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:09,680
Yeah.

1240
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,040
And you can't fuck up again.

1241
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,440
The worst liquor laws I've ever encountered.

1242
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,760
So the second, I don't know, this is probably the worst.

1243
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,040
The worst liquor laws I've ever encountered.

1244
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,160
I had two really bad liquor law experiences.

1245
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,520
One, so I lived in Oklahoma for five years.

1246
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,600
They're a three two state.

1247
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:33,520
So if you're in the bar and you're drinking beer, it's all three two beer.

1248
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:39,960
The breweries that make the high powered beer, they all brew special like three two versions

1249
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,960
of that beer.

1250
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,680
So even if you think like, okay, well, I'm not going to order a bud then I'm going to

1251
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:51,040
order, you know, like a summit or Odell's or Sam Adams.

1252
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,880
Nope, they're all three two.

1253
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,880
Anything that they serve in the bar is three two.

1254
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:00,280
So for the price, you're better off drinking the liquor, you know, the hard liquor.

1255
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:05,000
And then at the liquor, at the liquor stores, and they're like in the heart of the Bible

1256
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,000
belt.

1257
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,280
But if you go to liquor stores, you can buy beer that's over three two, but it has to

1258
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,080
be sold at room temp.

1259
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:17,540
So all of the three are all of the over three two beer was sold from pallets in the middle

1260
01:01:17,540 --> 01:01:20,800
of the floor.

1261
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,680
So they couldn't sell it to you cold.

1262
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,800
That is interesting.

1263
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:30,560
And you know, if you're into beer, you always try and buy the cold stuff, not necessarily

1264
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:35,360
so that you can drink it right away, but because the temperature has been more constant for

1265
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,640
that beer, you know, over the course of its life.

1266
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,800
And maybe when it's transported, it's not I mean, I don't know who knows, but that's

1267
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:43,800
crazy.

1268
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:48,280
And then the other worst place was in, I think it was actually Missouri.

1269
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:57,280
I went hiking in the mountains with my girlfriend at the time, and she didn't tell me that it

1270
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,960
was like a booze trip.

1271
01:01:58,960 --> 01:01:59,960
Right.

1272
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:03,200
And so she like loaded up her suitcase or whatever.

1273
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,720
Then she loaded up, you know, like a 24 pack of I can't remember what she drank, like wine

1274
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,440
coolers or something like that.

1275
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:15,480
And I was like, well, I don't I don't have any beer to bring along on this camping trip

1276
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,200
or like, you know, I mean, we're staying in like a cabin or like a log cabin.

1277
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,200
Or something.

1278
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,440
And so I was like, Oh, no big deal.

1279
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,240
Just grab some when we stop at a gas station.

1280
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:29,320
So we stop at this gas station and there's zero alcohol of any kind.

1281
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:35,360
And so I go and ask the station attendant and they're like, Hey, this is a dry county.

1282
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,660
Oh, I think it was Arkansas.

1283
01:02:37,660 --> 01:02:39,680
And they're like, this is a dry county.

1284
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,960
And I'm like, are you telling me that there's not a single drink to be had in this entire

1285
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,700
county?

1286
01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:47,260
And I guess that that was true.

1287
01:02:47,260 --> 01:02:55,380
So you have to drive across county lines in that state to go get beer.

1288
01:02:55,380 --> 01:02:58,820
This relates, I don't know if we should talk about it this episode or not.

1289
01:02:58,820 --> 01:03:01,900
I don't think I have enough left to talk about it this episode.

1290
01:03:01,900 --> 01:03:02,900
Alright, perfect.

1291
01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:05,340
Then we will bring it up next time.

1292
01:03:05,340 --> 01:03:06,340
Marijuana laws.

1293
01:03:06,340 --> 01:03:07,340
Alright, listen.

1294
01:03:07,340 --> 01:03:08,340
Marijuana laws.

1295
01:03:08,340 --> 01:03:09,340
In the next episode.

1296
01:03:09,340 --> 01:03:10,340
Marijuana laws.

1297
01:03:10,340 --> 01:03:16,980
It's definitely newsworthy because of the Brittany Griner sentencing that just happened.

1298
01:03:16,980 --> 01:03:18,940
Oh I did want to talk about Brittany.

1299
01:03:18,940 --> 01:03:19,940
I did.

1300
01:03:19,940 --> 01:03:20,940
We'll do it next episode.

1301
01:03:20,940 --> 01:03:26,660
I'm of two minds to an extent as usual.

1302
01:03:26,660 --> 01:03:28,660
I think I'm of one mind but we'll see.

1303
01:03:28,660 --> 01:03:30,420
Maybe you can give me a second mind.

1304
01:03:30,420 --> 01:03:33,740
I am of two minds for sure.

1305
01:03:33,740 --> 01:03:37,100
How many minds are you of this cigar?

1306
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:38,340
I think it's good.

1307
01:03:38,340 --> 01:03:40,540
I think it's one note.

1308
01:03:40,540 --> 01:03:41,980
It didn't really change flavor.

1309
01:03:41,980 --> 01:03:48,620
It's not as good as like a series Arlegoria Cubana or something like that.

1310
01:03:48,620 --> 01:03:51,300
I would say so far, yes.

1311
01:03:51,300 --> 01:03:57,940
So far the Rocky Patels, I gotta say that Connecticut Howitzer was phenomenal.

1312
01:03:57,940 --> 01:04:00,540
It was absolutely phenomenal.

1313
01:04:00,540 --> 01:04:01,540
Lovely.

1314
01:04:01,540 --> 01:04:03,660
I'm not usually a Connecticut guy.

1315
01:04:03,660 --> 01:04:06,040
Maybe I'm becoming more of a Connecticut guy.

1316
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,480
Maybe people change, Mike.

1317
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:08,480
People change.

1318
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:09,480
They do.

1319
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:16,420
I still like dark roast coffee.

1320
01:04:16,420 --> 01:04:20,900
I remember I used to not like black beers and now I pretty much only want to drink black

1321
01:04:20,900 --> 01:04:21,900
beer.

1322
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:22,900
That's not true.

1323
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:27,220
Obviously I just drink Estella and a Nord East.

1324
01:04:27,220 --> 01:04:29,500
Coming from black beer Mike.

1325
01:04:29,500 --> 01:04:30,500
Black beer Mike.

1326
01:04:30,500 --> 01:04:35,260
You drink a lot of those porters and stuff.

1327
01:04:35,260 --> 01:04:39,220
Those just fill me up way too fast.

1328
01:04:39,220 --> 01:04:43,300
The snow drift that Lightning Gugles make is just wonderful during the winter.

1329
01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:44,660
I like a lot of the black stuff.

1330
01:04:44,660 --> 01:04:48,500
I like the black ale from Pet Paddle.

1331
01:04:48,500 --> 01:05:00,660
Do you like the black butter, black butter from the Shoots?

1332
01:05:00,660 --> 01:05:03,660
That one's pretty good.

1333
01:05:03,660 --> 01:05:06,100
I don't think it's as good.

1334
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:08,740
You've drinking more porters than I have in my life.

1335
01:05:08,740 --> 01:05:09,740
Yes I have.

1336
01:05:09,740 --> 01:05:12,740
I'm like a Guinness guy too as you know.

1337
01:05:12,740 --> 01:05:13,900
I like Guinness quite a bit.

1338
01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:17,220
I drink a lot of Guinness in college.

1339
01:05:17,220 --> 01:05:23,340
I always keep a case of Guinness in the basement and I drink it at that temperature.

1340
01:05:23,340 --> 01:05:25,300
I had one last time I was up there.

1341
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:27,700
We had some Guinness and walked around your property.

1342
01:05:27,700 --> 01:05:28,700
Yeah.

1343
01:05:28,700 --> 01:05:29,700
Like the compound.

1344
01:05:29,700 --> 01:05:30,700
Yes.

1345
01:05:30,700 --> 01:05:35,260
I didn't want to call it that in case the FBI is listening.

1346
01:05:35,260 --> 01:05:41,180
But if you are listening FBI, like, comment and subscribe.

1347
01:05:41,180 --> 01:05:42,180
It's always enjoyable.

1348
01:05:42,180 --> 01:05:43,180
I don't know.

1349
01:05:43,180 --> 01:05:47,660
Maybe that was like the lightning in a bottle.

1350
01:05:47,660 --> 01:05:48,660
I think so.

1351
01:05:48,660 --> 01:05:49,660
That one was so good.

1352
01:05:49,660 --> 01:05:54,220
It was so good.

1353
01:05:54,220 --> 01:05:55,660
Stay tuned.

1354
01:05:55,660 --> 01:06:03,380
Next week, Brittany Greiner, marijuana and another Rocky Patel.

1355
01:06:03,380 --> 01:06:05,580
So thanks for listening and we'll catch you next week.

1356
01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:33,580
Cha cha.