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Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Nate.

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And I'm Mike.

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And we are smoking something rather large this episode.

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Large and in charge.

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We are doing the Rocky Patel Howitzer.

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Edge Howitzer.

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It is a 7x70 which is bigger than an inch.

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And this is the lighter wrapper.

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We have four edges in total to smoke.

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We have three Maduros.

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Two of them are the Howitzer size.

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One is the Connecticut which is what we have here.

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We have a Maduro and we have a regular size Torpedo, Robusto and then we have an Edge

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Fuma as well.

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That's the same size.

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So another bundle.

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Alright, well we are going to fire these up.

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Yes, here we go.

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So initial thoughts.

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It's girthy.

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The thing is huge.

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It's borderline comical.

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I don't know if it's the same size, a little bigger, a little smaller than that Asylum

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13 we smoked.

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Yeah, it's a...

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I know the Asylum 13 wouldn't fit in your V-cut.

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No, it would not.

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And this one did.

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Yes, so I feel like the Asylum 13 was a little, little bit, a little bigger diameter.

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At least the end was.

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At least the end was.

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The start of the cigar is good.

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I like it.

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I'm expecting a good cigar from Rocky Patel.

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So despite the borderline humorous size of the cigar, I like a ridiculously huge cigar

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every now and again.

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It must be done.

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And we're actually in person.

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We are.

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And Mike was bartender and we've got some gin and tea.

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Gin and tea with a little bit of lemon.

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Which is different than gin and juice from what my friends have been telling me.

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Yes.

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So now, I was watching a movie recently, as I tend to do.

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Yes.

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And in there, the character had a cigar and they took their lighter and ran it along the

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length of the cigar.

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And I was like, I've not seen that before.

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And so I was, before they lit it, you know, so they like wetted it and then kind of ran

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the lighter along the length of the cigar.

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It was a, this is a regular like Bic or Zippo lighter.

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It wasn't the torch.

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Sure.

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But I was curious if you knew what that might be.

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I might do that.

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Never seen that before.

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I'm sure that somebody thinks it does something, maybe.

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Maybe it was just a cool thing to do in a movie.

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Yeah, I've never heard of that.

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Never heard of that.

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I know that I like cigars being lit by matches, as you know.

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I was very resistant to get a lighter for many years, as you know.

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But now I do.

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But now I've never heard of that.

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I know I've had a box years ago of cedar matches.

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And I really like the cedar matches with the cigar.

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And it's probably all in my head.

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I don't know.

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Cedar's got its own smell, if anything.

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The sense of smell I've heard is the most closely attuned to memory and things.

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It was a cedar smell.

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And I don't know, it's kind of romantic.

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That's kind of why.

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I can find another box of it.

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Just my alone cigar cedar matches in solid needs.

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That's right.

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Me and my spank bank.

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You took it there, not me.

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Most of our listeners are old enough to have had a spank bank back in the day.

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Oh, well, you know what?

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Most of our listeners probably have to be because I mark each one of these explicit.

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So they'll at least have to be 18.

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So I'm sure they had something even if they don't call it the same term.

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Right.

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Back in the days before we had good internet, we had DSL.

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What is it now?

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The cum cloud?

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Cum cloud.

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Oh, Jesus.

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Nate's at my place today.

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And so here, up until two or three years ago, we only had DSL.

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You couldn't get regular internet.

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Isn't that interesting?

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Well, anything's better than dial-up.

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That's all I'll say.

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Anything is better than dial-up, yeah.

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That's all we could get for years and years and years.

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Yep.

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That was back when we still used the landlines because not everybody had cell phones and cell

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phones are crazy expensive to use.

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And you could only use the internet or the phone.

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You couldn't use them both at the same time.

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Right.

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Unless you had extra lines brought in, which was even more expensive because then you were

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paying for two phone lines instead of one phone line.

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Oh, I remember a lot of people had two phone lines at their house so that one would always

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be open when their teenager was talking.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Not here.

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Not at my house.

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It was not at my house either.

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So, I don't know what you want to talk about tonight, today, this morning.

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I don't know.

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It's 4th of July weekend.

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It is 4th of July weekend.

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It is 4th of July weekend.

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Well, you know what?

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We could talk about the new court cases because Roe versus Wade is taking a lot of energy.

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Spotlight.

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Yeah.

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Spotlight from the let's roll back America to 1943 or whatever it was.

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Right.

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But I think that the other court cases are more important.

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To be honest, I know it's not a popular thing to say potentially, but I think that the roll

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back of the Miranda rights, the roll back of the EPA specifically to this, but it's

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all government agencies.

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These court cases don't just apply to one agency.

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It's every government agency is now going to have their regulatory authority rolled

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back.

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How about the prayer in school?

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The prayer in school.

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That's the 4th one.

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There's 4 big cases and I think that Roe versus Wade is the least big issue to be honest.

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You would have lost popularity points with me for saying that, but you've got this amazingly

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huge cigar and so your popularity is safe with me.

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I say it's the least problematic issue because we live in a state where-

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There's an easy way for states to circumvent that.

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It's not even a ban.

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It's just the states are going to be allowed to do what they want and the federal government

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could easily write a law and change it.

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It's the least long-term problem.

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It's easiest, I think, easiest for the implications to be understood by most citizens and it's

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the easiest for them to get up in arms about, but it's also the easiest to change, fix.

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The rolling back of Miranda rates is huge.

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Not so much for you and I at this point in our lives, but it's a bigger deal for-

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Well, you never know.

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We already know our Miranda rates.

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What?

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That's what I mean.

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It's not that they revoked the rights.

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They revoked the police having to tell the person that they just got done beating up.

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That they have rights.

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Yes.

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You know what?

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Actually, I think that if we were to take all of these, with exception to maybe the

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prayer one, most of these or at least two of these four, two of these four or five-

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I think there's four big decisions, but there might be a few that I forgot about at this

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moment.

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You know, are kind of almost directly aimed at the poorer classes.

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Absolutely.

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It's aimed at restricting the freedom of poor people.

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You know, if you're poor and not educated or you can't be educated, you're not going

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to know your Miranda rates.

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That's just- Yeah.

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So real funny, Mike just dropped his nice ash in his lap and this was after his Sarah

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kind of chastised us to not make a mess of the room she just cleaned.

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And it is definitely on the floor.

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So if this is our last podcast, thoughts and prayers in school for Mike.

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So anyway, the Miranda rates, yeah, that's a huge problem and it's not just poor people,

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it's young people.

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Well, and with all of the police, let's just say all the police headlines, you know, and

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in the news recently, giving them more freedom to be less accountable doesn't seem like a

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good thing.

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Well, not to you and I, but to the lords on the Supreme Court, it seems very good.

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Lords and ladies.

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Lords and lordettes.

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They might be lordettes.

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I don't know.

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I haven't seen their junk.

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So I don't know what the term is for a female lord.

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I'm not, I'm not assuming their gender.

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The lords and gods.

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The gods.

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The lords and gods.

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So but yeah, I think that's a huge issue.

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I think that allowing a school official to host a prayer at a school event is bad module.

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Well, at a public school.

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If you're at a private religious school, no big deal.

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What I saw online was a lot of people that, you know, some people do take note of these

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other cases.

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And so one of the things that came out of the prayer in school is, well, okay, if you

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want prayer in school, then anyone who's, you know, Muslim, anyone who's, you know,

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of a different faith, if you're a Satanist or, you know, whatever, be prepared to go

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to school and demand that the teachers show your child where Mecca is and, you know, which

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direction Mecca is.

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Oh, the one I heard was a shamanistic goat blood sacrifice after a football game on the

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football field.

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So, because I mean, that's the whole thing is, you know, and we talked about this before

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on our podcast, but America was not founded on Christian principles.

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No, it was not.

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And it doesn't matter how much proof that you have of this, those people that say America

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is a Christian nation, they like double down and go twice as hard and three times as hard

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on that all of the founding fathers were Christians and they founded, you know, this country on

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Christian ideals and they just can't, but they didn't, but you can't, you can't teach

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these people.

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And we shouldn't have it that way.

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There's a lot of people that think differently.

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That's just, if we're going to have a functional society in the empire, which America is an

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empire, we have to come up with a governing system that allows for everybody to do what

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they want to do and not step on other people while they do it.

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And I think the, the Christians who think America is a Christian country and founded

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on Christian principles took like the one sentence where a lot of the early colonists

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came over to flee religious persecution.

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And then they took that to heart saying, well, there's a Christian nation and that's not,

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not entirely what that means.

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No, at all.

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Well, the Puritans came to this country to flee persecution by the Anglican church so

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they could persecute people who didn't believe in their little subsect of Christianity.

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to get away from because they live in an environment where everybody had to be a member of the

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church and they didn't want that.

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But anyway, yeah, that's a huge issue too, because we know everybody who's a thinking

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adult knows Christians are going to force children to fucking pray in school.

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That's just the way it is.

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It's going to be Christians because there's the majority in this country and they're,

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I mean, that's just, that's how it's going to be.

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And even if they're not the majority, they, for whatever reason, they are the most vocal

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religion, at least in this country.

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But when you think about other religions, and my experience with this is in this country,

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you know, you can kind of tell who's a Jew, a Cidic Jew, because of the way they dress,

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you know, just as you can tell somebody who's Amish, you know, by them not responding to

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your friend request on TikTok.

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Do they have friends on TikTok?

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I've never been on TikTok.

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It's owned by China, so why would I go on it?

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I'm not a communist.

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So you know, but some of these religions you can kind of tell based on garb or, you know,

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at the cookout, things they may or may not eat.

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But the most they'll ever say is, I can't do that because of my religion or I'm not

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allowed to eat that.

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And then that's the end of it.

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They're not sitting there trying to ask you if you've heard of the good stuff that Jesus

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Christ has done, you know, like for whatever reason the, it's not necessarily converting,

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but they call it like spreading the word.

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Evangelizing.

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Evangelizing.

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There you go.

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But they're the ones most likely to evangelize.

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So they're the most likely to tell their kids to pray in school or to, you know, cause a

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fuss if they can't pray in school or for whatever reason.

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And I don't know why.

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I don't know.

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There's no ban from people praying at school.

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There was a ban before on school officials leading a prayer at a school sanctioned event.

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And the issue becomes now this piece of shit coach is going to be leading a prayer and

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you and I as functioning adults know that if some kid doesn't follow what that coach

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wants, they are going to receive retribution based on their difference of opinion on religious

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belief than their fucking school teacher.

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Yes.

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So I grew up in the Boy Scouts, Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts.

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Made it to Eagle, praised Jesus because he invented the Eagle Scout rank.

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You talked about that on the Mount, right?

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Sermon on the Mount.

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Yes.

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Because the Eagle High on the Mount.

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Yeah.

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But so like historically the Boy Scouts of America, that's not the first Boy Scouts group

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that was founded in England.

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And I can't remember his name now.

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Sorry.

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It's been a few years since I've been in that organization.

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Jesus Christy.

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Yes.

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But he was over in London and got lost in the fog.

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A Scout found him and refused payment for his service.

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And so he was so enthralled by that that he went and met with the founder of the Boy Scouts

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over there, got permission to set one up here in America.

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But the American one has up until recently been very anti-homosexual and they just passed

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some laws, or not laws, but bylaws or rules of operation or whatever, within the organization

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to kind of open that up.

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But they're still very much, you must believe in a higher power.

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They don't necessarily designate Christianity, but when you go to the church services on

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camp outs, they have like the Catholic service and like the Christian service.

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Then they have one called non-denominational.

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And I want to talk about the non-denominational one because I've only ever seen that one done

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right once.

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So the Catholic one is what you'd expect a Catholic one to be.

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And the Christian one is what you'd expect from, you know, kind of a Lutheran.

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So they're normal.

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They're not really mouth breather.

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No, and they're not doing the, you know, they're not speaking in tongues.

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They're not, you know, I feel Jesus here next to me or whatever.

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You know, and it's a small portion of the camp.

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And most scouting groups are sponsored by churches and a lot of them will, you know,

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say grace before meal, but it's generally not overly specific.

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You know, may Cthulhu's tentacle come up and bless my piece of corn before I eat it.

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They don't do that kind of thing.

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But the non-denominational one for most of my scouting career was just Christian, just

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plain Christian.

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And I went to one and I can't remember where it was, but it was a non-denominational one

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and they actually did have like legit non-denominational.

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It was readings from the Bible and readings from the Quran and readings from the Torah

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and readings from, you know, just a wide sampling of different religions.

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Well, those are three.

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Yes, that's three that I can remember.

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But I thought it was neat because they had readings from other religious texts other

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than the Bible.

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And so when you're thinking about non-denominational thinking about trying to serve other people's

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faith, if that's something that almost any Christian would just stop and think, how can

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I serve somebody else's faith other than my own?

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Maybe we wouldn't have a lot of these issues in the world.

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And that's not to say other faiths do it perfectly because there's a lot of, that's just being

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selfish, you know, and a lot of people are and that's okay.

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We understand that that's how it's going to be.

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But I thought it was neat that that was how it should have been, right?

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For my entire scouting career is we should have, if somebody chose to go non-denominational,

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it should have truly been non-denominational or non-overarching religion and just here's

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something from the Bible, here's something from the Torah, here's something from the

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Quran, here's something from, you know, Buddhism, whatever it might be, just pick a sampling.

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You don't have to do every single religion, but, you know, pick the top ones, not just

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Christianity.

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That's good.

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There's one though.

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Yeah.

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What were all the other ones?

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Were they just Christian?

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Yeah, Christian or Catholic.

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So, you know, but I don't know, maybe they were trying to, maybe as an organization,

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they were trying to distance themselves from overly catering to one religion as well.

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I know, you know, because organizations, you know, come and change and grow and leave and,

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you know, and a lot of times organizations are slow to adopt to modern times.

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They can be, especially very large organizations, which the Boy Scouts have the same problems

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as many large organizations, but.

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Yeah.

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Interesting.

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So I think we're what, a third, fourth of the way through?

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I mean, it might be a quarter of the way through.

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It's good.

357
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It's good.

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It's one note, which I kind of expected from this big of a cigar, but, you know, it's good.

359
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It's good.

360
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It has, you know, I'd say the airflow is fine.

361
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It's fine.

362
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It's a big cigar.

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It's a big cigar.

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It has to be expected.

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It's always interesting, you know, cigars and their air flows, because sometimes you

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grab one and you think, oh yeah, it's going to be real good and it's not, or, you know,

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sometimes it's real, real nice.

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But yeah, big cigar.

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I like it.

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Yep.

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It's good to smoke and shoot the breeze.

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Yep.

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So it's definitely enjoyable.

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Yes.

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Not the blood red moon or the CAO vanilla.

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Yeah.

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Bella vanilla.

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Yeah.

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Horrific.

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So, but yeah, Mike, Mike made us some drinks and he gave us metal straws.

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And I just, the other day, yesterday, I had an experience with a paper straw, which rekindled

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my hatred for those.

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Why do you hate paper straws?

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They're fine.

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You don't want to let them sit in your drink for an hour.

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That's for sure.

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Because if you let them sit in your drink, or so we went to Chipotle and they have all

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paper straws.

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So I filled up my fountain drink, sucked it down, filled it up for the car ride.

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And then the plastic lid where you put the straw in started to pinch the straw together

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so that, because it's paper.

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Let me get this right.

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Okay.

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They have a plastic lid.

395
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Yes.

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For a paper straw.

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For a paper straw.

398
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Yes.

399
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What's?

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And it's the same plastic lid that you punched the straw through.

401
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Right.

402
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You know, and it's got like the...

403
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So what are they gaining other than like...

404
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They got the Satan's butt hole.

405
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Yeah.

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Grabs your straw.

407
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But what are they really doing that's better for the environment at that point?

408
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I'm sorry.

409
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Did you not hear the paper straw thing?

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They're fixing the environment.

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They have paper straws.

412
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Yeah, but they also have plastic lids.

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So what's the point?

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It's the hypocrisy of the thing, right?

415
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Yes.

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Like we did the paper straw thing.

417
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You can't be mad at us as a corporation now.

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Right.

419
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You can't be mad at this other company that doesn't do paper straws.

420
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Yeah, don't be mad at us because we don't pay our workers anything.

421
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Yeah.

422
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So...

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Oh, sad.

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Well, you know.

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So I pinched it.

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It pinched it.

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And then it was like making this weird noise and it was getting soggy and there's pieces

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of paper coming off in my mouth.

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And just, you know, then I was like, well, I guess now I have to carry like a metal straw

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around with me everywhere I go in case somebody tries to pawn off a paper straw on me.

431
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Well, I guess that's progress in a manner of speaking.

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Small price to pay.

433
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I guess so.

434
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Some would say.

435
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Some would say.

436
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Ugh.

437
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Awful.

438
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And then, yeah, they changed the ruling for the EPA.

439
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Yeah.

440
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That was our little EPA segue.

441
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That was a beautiful prayer.

442
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Now we talked about paper straws.

443
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Now we're talking about the EPA.

444
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Because we hate papers or I hate paper straws, but I don't hate the environment.

445
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Yes.

446
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I think there's a better way to save the environment than paper straws.

447
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So the ruling, and I haven't looked into it, I know that they decided that the EPA could

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not regulate carbon emissions.

449
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But if the EPA can't regulate carbon emissions, what are they, you know, they've eliminated

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the ability for these agencies to regulate anything at that point because their argument

451
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was that because it wasn't explicitly in the charter for the organization, they couldn't

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regulate it.

453
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Well, I'm guessing that the FDA doesn't explicitly have regulation of...

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Oxycontin.

455
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Yeah, Oxycontin.

456
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Yeah, exactly.

457
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That's a great one.

458
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Oxycontin didn't exist when the FDA came up.

459
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So now they can't regulate it.

460
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Is that what we're saying?

461
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You know, where are we?

462
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This is opening the door to corporate exploitation, which they already exploit the shit out of

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everything, which is what their purpose in existence is.

464
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I'm not saying that.

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It's their goals to exploit everything to the maximum.

466
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But yeah, it's just not...

467
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That's a bad road to go down, boy.

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What a world without regulation, which I know when you were younger, you were a big fan

469
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of a world without regulation.

470
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Yeah, to a certain extent.

471
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A world without regulation is a world where buildings don't fucking stand.

472
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That's a world where your buildings light on fire.

473
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That is a world where there's nothing.

474
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If you don't have regulations that companies have to follow, they will not do it.

475
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They just will not do it.

476
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Well, and part of it is they will not do it under our economic model, which a lot of people

477
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like to stand and scream that it's capitalism.

478
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I tend to prefer the term corporatism or consumerism.

479
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Well, some argue that monopoly is the end result of the capitalist system.

480
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Yeah, I'm not sure.

481
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I'm no wizard, so I can't go into the future and find out, right?

482
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But I do know that ideally, if it were capitalist, capital would be the thing that would drive

483
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everything else.

484
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Consumers would have power, therefore by not buying certain products and not doing certain

485
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things.

486
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But now with all the government bailouts of companies, you can't actually vote with your

487
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dollar because if they're going to go under, then they just petition the government and

488
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the government gives them your money anyway from taxes.

489
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I was just looking at the airline industry today.

490
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They got a $54 billion bailout.

491
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And for that, they were supposed to keep their pilots and other crew members on.

492
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But what they ended up doing.

493
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On what?

494
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Leave?

495
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They were supposed to pay them.

496
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Yeah, basically pay them and keep them around, right?

497
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Well what they ended up doing is taking the $54 billion, doing stock buybacks and encouraging

498
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their employees to retire or quit.

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So now we don't have enough pilots and air people and traffic control people.

500
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At every level, they've had all these retirements, early retirements, instead of using the goddamn

501
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money that they were given by the government for what they were supposed to do.

502
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And there's going to be no punishment for that.

503
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,040
Nobody will suffer any consequences other than people who want to fly.

504
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,480
Do you want to fly, Mike?

505
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:35,280
No, I don't need to go anywhere.

506
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:46,960
Good times.

507
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,640
Stuff like that is just, I mean it's a story of our corrupt system.

508
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,880
And none of these bailouts.

509
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,320
I don't think any of them ever had to be paid back either.

510
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,040
No, they were just money given to them.

511
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,440
The little talked about thing about the end years of the Trump administration was that

512
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:16,880
they inflated the money supply by 33% because they just handed money to corporate interests

513
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:23,160
to keep their stocks afloat after 2020 had the crash.

514
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:29,080
And we are going to see, we have to see 33% inflation because 33% of the money supply

515
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,600
was printed in a fucking year.

516
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,800
That's way before Biden took over and all this.

517
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,120
And I'm not a fan of Joe Biden.

518
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:40,360
I'm not going to defend his policies, but consequences are consequences.

519
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:45,040
And it's the last two administrations, well, it's been more than just the last two administrations

520
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,760
that have had the same faulty policy.

521
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:55,440
This is the accumulation of longstanding bad policy that helps the rich people maintain

522
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,040
their power.

523
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,920
And speaking of the rich wanting to maintain their power, did you hear the little nugget

524
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,520
that came out of the January 6th hearings where Trump knew they were going to be armed

525
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,560
protesters, encouraged them to go anyway, and then wanted his security team to drive

526
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,920
him to the Capitol so he could storm it as well?

527
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,840
Yes, I heard something like that.

528
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,360
Yes, I'm not sure if that's 100% accurate information.

529
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:22,360
I don't know either.

530
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,560
It's a wonderful story.

531
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,000
I can tell you that.

532
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,680
Other than, you know, it's probably in line with him as a person for him to do such a

533
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,680
thing.

534
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,920
When January 6th happened, I actually sat down on the couch and watched it on TV and

535
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,920
I was drinking beers.

536
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,240
Yeah, I was really enjoying, I was like, oh, this is so enjoyable.

537
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,560
And it was great.

538
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,120
And then Trump would come out and like inflame the crowd even more.

539
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,960
He's like, now a message from the president to calm down the protesters.

540
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,760
And it's like, you're all good people.

541
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,760
Keep on doing what you're doing.

542
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,760
Okay.

543
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:05,440
Yeah, and I think a big part of that was probably because, you know, the people storming the

544
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:13,040
Capitol looked an awful lot like him in terms of, you know, skin color and class.

545
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:20,000
And when there was protests over Roe versus Wade, Fox News was in a conniption fit calling

546
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:27,880
it an insurrection and some sort of like, you know, affront to justice or something.

547
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,320
And it's like, hmm, par for the course.

548
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:38,320
When we start seeing federal officials getting French haircuts, then you can say it's an

549
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,320
insurrection.

550
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:45,360
And Democrats calling what happened on January 6th an insurrection is way overblown.

551
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,040
When I started seeing French haircuts on TV, that's when I'm going to say, okay, now we're

552
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,040
in insurrection mode.

553
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,920
And I may or may not have an opinion about it at that time.

554
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,920
What would you?

555
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:01,200
And I guess you could just, if you don't know what a French haircut is, you can Google it.

556
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,880
But because we don't know either.

557
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,880
You know what?

558
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:12,760
I just really think that French people, especially French people from the 1790s had really good

559
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,760
hairstyles.

560
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,760
Especially those in power.

561
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,880
It's just a cool term I heard.

562
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,440
I don't know what it means.

563
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,240
All I know is that I got wood, rope and steel in my house.

564
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,240
Would you?

565
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,240
Yeah.

566
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,240
And a grinder.

567
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,240
An angle grinder.

568
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,240
I do have an angle grinder.

569
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,240
Yes, I do.

570
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,680
So would you call the January 6th thing then like an attempted coup?

571
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,480
I would just call it a riot.

572
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,720
It was just a riot.

573
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,880
They definitely had kind of a political agenda.

574
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,760
Yeah, a riot has a political agenda too.

575
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,120
I mean, would you call it?

576
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,600
No, I wouldn't call it an insurrection.

577
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,640
It's not like they were attempting to take over the government.

578
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,440
They were just trying to harass the government.

579
00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:01,120
Well, I guess it depends on how.

580
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:07,120
And we weren't there and we don't know and we don't know what was all said by the then

581
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,120
president who soon did not be president.

582
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,320
Because a lot of people seem to believe that this happened because they were trying to

583
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,760
keep the presidency in Trump's hands.

584
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,360
And he was still president, but not going to be president.

585
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,880
And so to try and keep one person in power against the voting system, regardless of if

586
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,800
you like the voting system or not, I mean, it is how it is.

587
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,800
It is how it is.

588
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,360
You know, that's a separate issue.

589
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,760
It's a separate issue.

590
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:41,000
And there's a lot of other voting things that you could go and armed riot over to maybe

591
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,200
make some changes rather than trying to keep the person in power in power for longer, because

592
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:50,160
that's not what I wouldn't call it an insurrection because they weren't like they weren't actually

593
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920
taking over any government buildings that mattered.

594
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,960
Right.

595
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,800
And they didn't even take over that government building.

596
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,840
It just ran through the hallways for a couple of minutes and then left.

597
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,840
Took some Instagram photos.

598
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:00,840
Yeah.

599
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,840
Behind the desk, you know.

600
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,840
Yeah.

601
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,880
I mean, I'm not saying that one guy didn't that one guy throw like a flag and speared

602
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,880
somebody or something.

603
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,880
Oh, sorry.

604
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,880
I can do that with Braveheart.

605
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,880
Oh, yeah.

606
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:19,040
An actual that's an insurrection legit actual thing that people could do, you know, not

607
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,320
like storm the Capitol building where nobody is ever hardly.

608
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,320
Right.

609
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,560
They had some talking heads, even if, you know, go to the go.

610
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,120
I don't know, go to your local news station and take that over.

611
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,480
You have more chance of influencing politics that way.

612
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,080
I just like the idea that pirate radio.

613
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,080
This is related.

614
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,080
All right.

615
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,240
Pirate radio back in the day was a big deal for rep around radicals and stuff.

616
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,000
But now there is no such thing because they can just do it over the Internet.

617
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,000
Yeah.

618
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Largely.

619
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000
You can just do a podcast.

620
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,000
You can just do a podcast.

621
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,640
And I listened to a podcast a while back after Roe versus Wade first got leaked a month and

622
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,880
a half ago.

623
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,160
And they talked about 20 different ways on how to induce an abortion without going to

624
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,160
the doctor.

625
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,840
So this information is out there.

626
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:16,480
And it was a nurse who was not telling people how to do it, but it informing them that it

627
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,000
is possible to induce an abortion by a certain methods.

628
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:28,800
Yes, I think with the Roe v. Wade and it's the same with legalizing drugs is you want

629
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,000
to make these things that people are going to do anyway.

630
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,480
And you just want to make them safe for people.

631
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:41,320
And that's ultimately what it comes down to is the people that want or need an abortion

632
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,440
will find a way to do it regardless.

633
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,440
Yes.

634
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,960
And why not just make it safe?

635
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:53,160
People who want to smoke weed or eat edibles or do crack or whatever, they'll find a way

636
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,560
to do it.

637
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,900
So why not just try and make it as safe as possible for them?

638
00:33:58,900 --> 00:34:04,360
Not saying that we need to be encouraging certain behaviors, but that's part of the

639
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,560
government is supposed to maybe look out for the citizens and not tell the citizens how

640
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,560
to live their lives.

641
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:10,560
You want to do crack?

642
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,560
Great.

643
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,120
Go to Walmart, go to the crack aisle and you buy whatever strength crack you want.

644
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,720
And you know what strength it is, somebody made it in a lab just for you.

645
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:21,800
And if you want to take too much of it, that's on you because it's right there in the package

646
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,200
of how much you should be taking.

647
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,200
Right.

648
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,200
Probably none.

649
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:32,000
But the spice head phenomenon really should inform everybody that US policy is the one

650
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,400
we have right now is backfiring.

651
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,400
Some people might not know who are listening, but spice is sold legally in stores and it

652
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,400
gets you high and it's very similar to PCP, I guess.

653
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,400
What is this?

654
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,400
Spice.

655
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,400
They're like bath salts.

656
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,400
They're like bath salts.

657
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,400
Yeah, it's called bath salts.

658
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,200
Well, they made it called spice, like in Dune.

659
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,400
And they've made it called bath salts and all these, I call them spice heads.

660
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,400
Okay.

661
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,400
That's what they're called is spice heads.

662
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,400
Is the spice must flow.

663
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,440
That was the spice must flow.

664
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,040
And it is fucking terrible.

665
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,960
And it turns people into zombies.

666
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,400
It's not good for your brain to be smoking these weird chemicals made in the factory,

667
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,880
not when you can go out into a field and pick a flower and smoke it and feel good.

668
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,680
Dandelions he's talking about.

669
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,680
Yeah.

670
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,680
Not my field.

671
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,680
A field.

672
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,040
Very near here though.

673
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,040
Or not.

674
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,560
When I was growing up, there was all these ditches around this area on the dirt roads.

675
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,000
They all had ditch weed in them.

676
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000
Every one of them.

677
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000
It was crazy.

678
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,400
The McCuffs never did a damn thing about it, but that was before September 11th.

679
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,400
Yeah.

680
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,760
And ditch weed, it's hard to track that stuff down.

681
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,760
Right.

682
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,640
Because the ditch is legally city property or highway property.

683
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,280
It's county property on the county roads.

684
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,560
They're not going to go out and burn it.

685
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,560
They don't care.

686
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,320
I had a, oh, I'm trying to, oh yeah.

687
00:35:52,320 --> 00:36:01,880
It just happened to down here, somebody was walking and found like some syringes in the

688
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,880
ditch.

689
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,880
Here?

690
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,880
Yeah.

691
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:11,600
And they called the sheriff for these syringes in the ditch.

692
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,960
And it's like, what is the sheriff going to do?

693
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,240
He's going to come down, say, please don't waste my time.

694
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,920
Put those in a Sharps disposal container.

695
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:28,360
Like you think he's going to run DNA on these syringes to track down the heroin users or

696
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,000
like they have more impressive things to do.

697
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,480
You know, like, I mean, that's part of the problem too is we can, we can, you know, pooh

698
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,320
pooh the cops all day long.

699
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:44,040
But at the end of the day, a lot of times they have too much to do and they've got people

700
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,040
that call for the most insane reasons.

701
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,120
And you know what?

702
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:56,160
Tracking down the owner, you know, heavy air quotes of hypodermic needles in the ditch.

703
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,320
No, that's not how that works.

704
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,320
You know?

705
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,720
Well, Sarah was managing apartments in Minneapolis.

706
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:10,520
She had to do needle watch and she would sweep up needles every morning and every evening

707
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,440
because people would just bang right there, you know, right on the front step of her apartment

708
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,880
complex, you know, right?

709
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,880
You know, I mean, and so for anyone out there who's doing this, the way that stuff works

710
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:27,680
is you can't just grab, you can't just grab DNA, put it into the computer and have it

711
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,320
spit you out the name.

712
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,800
Like that person's DNA has to be on file somewhere for some other reason.

713
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,600
And the same with fingerprints.

714
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,320
Like it's not just some magic thing.

715
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,960
And a lot of TV shows, crime TV shows and crime movies, they use that as a convenient

716
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,080
plot point to move it forward because, you know, otherwise it's a very boring movie because

717
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,240
there's like 16 months, 18 months where they're sitting around, banging their head against

718
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,820
a wall and can't catch a break in the case.

719
00:37:52,820 --> 00:37:55,760
And you don't want to see that in a movie or form of entertainment.

720
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,880
But you have to have that data somewhere to cross reference it.

721
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,440
You can't just, oh yeah, it's DNA.

722
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,440
It's so and so and they live here.

723
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,680
It's like, well, that's a whole bunch of different databases that suddenly have to talk to one

724
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,920
another.

725
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,840
And I can tell you from corporate America, that's not how databases work.

726
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,840
Right.

727
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,320
We're about halfway through the cigar.

728
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,400
That's a good halfway segment.

729
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,440
This is a good halfway segment.

730
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,120
We are, it's still good.

731
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,120
It's actually getting better.

732
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,120
I do.

733
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,720
It is getting better.

734
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:23,720
And it's great.

735
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:25,840
It's getting richer and earthier, I think.

736
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,840
Yeah.

737
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,840
Yeah.

738
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,360
I don't know about the Connecticut's, but for such a large cigar, it makes a lot of

739
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,040
sense to have a lighter, lighter wrapper.

740
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,800
I'm excited to try the darker one.

741
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,800
Yeah, me too.

742
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,800
Me too.

743
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:47,920
We're drinking a jiggerage in a jigger, a lemon juice, a splash of club soda and tea,

744
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,920
cold tea.

745
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,920
Yes.

746
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,720
Which was cold, cold brewed tea.

747
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:59,200
So for the water I have here, I like to cold brew with Irish breakfast tea, but that's

748
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,640
because I have soft water.

749
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,800
And then I like to hot tea with Scottish breakfast tea.

750
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,800
So there we go.

751
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,520
That's a subtle little factoid for all you tea drinkers out there who don't haven't done

752
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,800
your research yet.

753
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:18,720
The style of water you have at home should determine the type of tea you're buying, not

754
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:21,000
the other way around.

755
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,520
What if you filter it?

756
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:27,600
If you filter it, yeah, you have to do a more modern tea blend then, because I don't filter

757
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,560
my water here.

758
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,040
We filter ours, but we live in the city and we get city water.

759
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,840
And I don't want those damn Russkies stealing my essence.

760
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,840
Right.

761
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,120
That's not a slur on my part.

762
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,600
That's from Dr. Strangelove.

763
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,600
Yes.

764
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,960
So I'm just quoting a movie.

765
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,760
Does your filter actually filter out, what the hell is it, fluoride?

766
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,760
Fluoride.

767
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,760
Does it filter out fluoride?

768
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,480
It does out a lot of things.

769
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,480
I don't know if it filters out the fluoride.

770
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,520
There's a whole subset of people that believe fluoride makes for a docile population.

771
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,520
Yes.

772
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,720
Which I never had fluoride as a child.

773
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:03,720
That's why you're not docile.

774
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:04,720
I guess so.

775
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:05,720
I guess so.

776
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,840
My buddy James, you know James.

777
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,840
I think I met him once.

778
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,840
Oh, okay.

779
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,840
He's a wild man.

780
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,760
He came and helped us move, I think, and that was the only time I ever met him.

781
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,760
Rooster hair, right?

782
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,760
You know what?

783
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,760
It was so long ago.

784
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,760
I don't know if you remember.

785
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,440
There was just some strange guy there and he was helping us move, so I was happy.

786
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,440
Yep.

787
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,600
Then I was telling my Sarah that you've been talking about James fairly frequently and

788
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,600
she was like, well, you met him.

789
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:31,600
He helped us move that one time.

790
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,400
I was like, oh, that's who that was.

791
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:39,120
It was a one-time thing, so it's like I never talked to him again, never saw him again.

792
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,040
He kind of left my memory.

793
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,040
He's a wild man.

794
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:48,920
He lives 20 minutes from here on a little tiny lake.

795
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:55,840
It's not a little tiny lake, but it's a lake and it's connected to a river, the big river,

796
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,160
and he doesn't have electricity or running water or anything.

797
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,120
He pumps water up.

798
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,120
Yeah, it's crazy.

799
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:08,800
He's a wild man, but he actually got himself a new place way up north, like on the border.

800
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,800
Oh, okay.

801
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,800
Yeah, yeah.

802
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,800
His is a spouse, she lives in a Winnipeg area.

803
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,800
Oh, okay.

804
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,080
He wants to be closer, as close as he can be.

805
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:24,040
Not that it's too far now, realistically, but he wants to be even closer.

806
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:29,560
He wants to be, I think his new place is only like seven miles off the border or something.

807
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,360
Every little bit helps or whatever.

808
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,480
Maybe we'll talk not on the podcast.

809
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

810
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,400
There's some interesting things I wanted to unpack there, but maybe not for our listeners.

811
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,960
Yeah, maybe not for the listeners.

812
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,560
We try to respect people's privacy.

813
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,560
Absolutely.

814
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,560
There's much we can do.

815
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,200
Well, we're being, it's like, you know we live in Minnesota, you know I live in northern

816
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,360
Minnesota, so the fact he's going to move seven miles from the border, it's like, okay,

817
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,360
well.

818
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,360
Yeah, it's not Mexico.

819
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,600
Yeah, there's like hundreds of miles of border, so.

820
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Yeah, I'm not trying to protect his location.

821
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:06,800
I just had different questions, but also privacy and whatnot.

822
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,000
Absolutely, absolutely.

823
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,800
He hasn't chosen or been invited yet.

824
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,800
No.

825
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,800
To be a guest.

826
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,800
No, he has not.

827
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,760
And maybe one day he will and maybe one day he will share his story and we'll get the

828
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,480
wild story of James.

829
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,200
He is a wild man.

830
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,320
And maybe we won't.

831
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,000
He's got a great picture of him with Hillary Clinton too.

832
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Okay.

833
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,400
So apparently she is a real person.

834
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,400
He verified that.

835
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,760
He didn't think that she was a lizard person.

836
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,000
Did he check for the crease, the line, to lift up the mask?

837
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,000
That's you'll have to ask him.

838
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,800
Because he'll have to ask him.

839
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,920
I would love, I'm not saying James is, because I don't know.

840
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:50,480
But I would love to get one of those really devout conspiracy theorists on the show.

841
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:55,360
And yeah, like Alex Jones, devotee.

842
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,360
Anybody.

843
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,960
Just, you know, you don't even have to be famous.

844
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,560
No, no, I'm not talking about the real Alex Jones.

845
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,560
Like somebody who's like.

846
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:07,240
You know, the moon is hollow or Hitler still alive in Argentina or.

847
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:10,920
Anybody who has a subscription to Infowars.

848
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,220
That's good enough for me.

849
00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:14,440
If you subscribed to Infowars.

850
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,760
Anyone who watches Ancient Aliens, not ironically.

851
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,760
Oh yeah.

852
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,800
Oh, I used to work with a guy.

853
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,240
And some of the stuff on there is really like fascinating, but it's also if you sit there

854
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:31,320
and you kind of like, wow, they're even like a really fascinating story.

855
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,400
But then you're like, but they're just going off of like a very bad misinterpretation of

856
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,040
this one little like drawing.

857
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,840
And they're like, yes, the Aztec rocket man or whatever.

858
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,960
And somebody is going to, somebody is going to ping me and say, it's not Aztec.

859
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,800
It's you know, whatever, you know, but it's like a little like carving in stone.

860
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,120
That's thousands of years old.

861
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:55,880
That now to modernize looks like a rocket ship, but is perhaps a penis or something

862
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,880
else.

863
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,900
Or maybe it's, you know, Jeff Bezos is rocket ship.

864
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:04,440
Maybe they were time travelers and they knew a giant penis would be flying to the sky in

865
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,680
a ship of all things.

866
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,680
I know.

867
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,680
I worked with a guy.

868
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,760
He was Native American and he lived all over the country.

869
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,560
He spent time up in Alaska in the Inuit villages and he was originally from North Dakota, but

870
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,440
he also spent time on the West Coast.

871
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,440
And he spent a lot of time with natives, obviously being a Native American.

872
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,200
His mother was a teacher and all that growing up.

873
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,320
So he got, he loved the ancient alien show and he always told me he's like, all this

874
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,500
is is the native bullshit.

875
00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:41,040
But in Egypt, he's like these fucking Egyptians.

876
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,520
They're telling him these crazy nonsense stories.

877
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,760
They know their lies, but they're going to tell Whitey that because then they get money

878
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,760
from him.

879
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,760
Yeah.

880
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,440
He's like, you go to an Inuit village up in Alaska.

881
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,440
Yes.

882
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,040
These guys don't know any magical secrets.

883
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,760
They're just going to spout some bullshit because Whitey gives them money.

884
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:08,360
Well, and that's another danger of religion.

885
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:15,000
If you don't know the groundings of it or the basis of it, it's very easy to misinterpret

886
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,320
it or to do something different with it.

887
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,640
Absolutely.

888
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,320
I think we might've talked about this on another episode, but like religion, when it first

889
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:35,200
came out, when it was first released, not first released, but when man first invented

890
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,480
it, it was invented as a way to explain their natural environment and things that were happening.

891
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:47,360
And they didn't know about different, what would you call it?

892
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,360
Like forces of nature.

893
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,360
Yeah.

894
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,360
They didn't understand that.

895
00:45:50,360 --> 00:46:01,240
They didn't know, and science, and I saw a great little thing on dinosaurs, because we

896
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:03,080
talked about George Washington.

897
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:08,160
The first fossil wasn't discovered until after his death, so he had no idea about dinosaurs.

898
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:15,440
And it was the first person to dig up a Triceratops skull just hunched over going, oh fuck, oh

899
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,760
fuck, oh fuck.

900
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,960
You wouldn't know what it is.

901
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,960
How would you know?

902
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:26,760
Nobody knew about that until he found the skulls and things.

903
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:32,120
Religion was a way to kind of explain life or to codify certain good suggestions.

904
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:38,360
There's a whole chapter in the book, or there's a whole book in the Bible of keeping yourself

905
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,800
clean and safe from diseases before they knew what diseases really were.

906
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,460
But they had all of these ideas of what they might be, and they put that in the Bible to

907
00:46:47,460 --> 00:46:53,760
try and keep people clean and healthy and living for a longer period of time.

908
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:59,440
I've heard speculation that's where the restrictions on eating certain animals because they were

909
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,240
living in a desert environment.

910
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:07,920
And that's also where You Shall Not Lay with a Woman on Her Period comes from, because

911
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,920
they weren't sure they didn't know, and things like that.

912
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:21,000
Do we have more Supreme Court rulings that we wanted to discuss?

913
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,080
No, we talked about the prayer, the EPA thing.

914
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,360
We did a whole episode on Roe v. Wade.

915
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,360
Miranda rights.

916
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,280
I know you were super enthusiastic about that one.

917
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,840
Great timing, by the way, Supreme Court, to revolt people's Miranda rights right before

918
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,000
you knew there was going to be a bunch of protests and potentially riots.

919
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,080
We got them.

920
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,080
We got them.

921
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,080
We'll see.

922
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,080
We'll see.

923
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,080
I'm kind of...

924
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,880
This is the second today.

925
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,680
Yeah, that's going to be another challenge, I think, that'll...

926
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,200
Anyone who doesn't get read their Miranda rights.

927
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,440
Right.

928
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,680
I think that's going to go right back to the Supreme Court.

929
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,160
Oh, for sure.

930
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,000
And then, while I was specific, I was going to say, what's going to happen two days from

931
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,440
now?

932
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,440
Are we going to see massive protests?

933
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,240
I'm not predicting anything.

934
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:11,600
I don't really know.

935
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:12,600
I don't know.

936
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:18,880
I've seen a lot of people, I think, the general attitude for most people, most sane people

937
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:26,000
that aren't on one or the other extreme of the political spectrum, because really it's

938
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,280
the extremes that are the most vocal.

939
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,920
And the majority of people fit somewhere kind of in the middle.

940
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:38,480
I might have strong opinions on one thing, but I'm willing to listen to and hear somebody

941
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,760
else's opinions on that same thing, and maybe we can work together to come up with a way

942
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,320
that we can both be okay with whatever the thing is.

943
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:56,480
But a lot of the extreme people are the ones that maybe storm Capitol buildings and then

944
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:04,160
make a bunch of, I don't know, what you would call it, poor me posts or something online.

945
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:11,520
But I think that a lot of people, even in the mass population, the majority of those

946
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:21,040
people kind of feel like maybe the 4th of July this year should just be canceled if

947
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,120
you're taking these rights away and taking...

948
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,440
That's just on a national level.

949
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,720
Okay, so the states have their own kind of say with Roe v. Wade and some other things,

950
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:35,320
but it's just we're going backwards, you're going kind of into weird...

951
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,880
We're going into the Green Book, boys.

952
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,480
That's exactly what we're doing.

953
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,640
Yeah, going into some strange territory here.

954
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:47,360
I'd like to see what Hare Valtz has to say about the Miranda rights issue and things

955
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,240
like that, because the states can still change that.

956
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:56,400
The state government could require cops in the state jurisdiction to do that.

957
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,280
And the commandant, he's not really pro-freedom, that guy.

958
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,280
Most politicians aren't.

959
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,160
No, he is not.

960
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:11,000
And maybe he will break his current losing streak on that issue.

961
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Maybe.

962
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,000
I heard...

963
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:22,760
Well, I saw and I didn't fact check this or verify this, but there was some pictures of

964
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:30,360
Biden being very anti-abortion in his younger years, and now he's calling it a travesty

965
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,560
to the nation.

966
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,560
It is a fact that he has been anti-abortion up until...

967
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Anti-abortion or pro-abortion?

968
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:41,560
Anti-abortion.

969
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:42,840
Oh, anti-abortion, right.

970
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:48,480
Yeah, anti-abortion up until the day before he ran for president as a serious candidate.

971
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,480
He's the last...

972
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,000
I know we've said it so many times.

973
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,200
I've said it so many times.

974
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,800
He's the last dixie-crat in the government.

975
00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:00,120
He's a fucking racist and he wants abortion banned and he is...

976
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,680
He is every bit of Republican as the Republicans, he just happens to be in the Democratic Party.

977
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,960
He only wants abortion...

978
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,400
He wants to roll back Social Security.

979
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,480
He just nominated somebody to the Social Security Board who wants to end the Social Security

980
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,680
program.

981
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,840
So he is as conservative as they can be.

982
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,520
So what do you think about Social Security?

983
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:27,760
I think that the government, because of its malfeasance, has not done what it needs to

984
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,240
do to make that program functional for the last 40 years.

985
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:33,240
Or longer even.

986
00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:38,840
Well, potentially longer, but at least the last 40.

987
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,160
If they just lifted the cap off of Social Security payments, number one, it would be

988
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,040
resolved instantly.

989
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:51,440
Number two, corporate persons, those corporate human beings should have to pay.

990
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,640
And there should be no cap and they should have to fucking pay.

991
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,880
Because corporations are human beings and they have all the rights of people and blah,

992
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:00,880
blah, blah, blah.

993
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,480
So hey, we don't have to read corporations and Miranda rights.

994
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,600
We don't have to read corporations and Miranda rights now.

995
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:15,080
I think in general, helping citizens be set up for when they're not able to work due to

996
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:21,200
age and things like that, Social Security, is one of those things good in theory, I think,

997
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,200
in practice.

998
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,720
Just because of we have the government we have, it just would never work.

999
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:29,920
Well, unless you could somehow...

1000
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:37,280
It worked 80 years ago when we had a government that was responsive to people's demands.

1001
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:44,720
But we haven't had a government responsive to people's demands in a very long time.

1002
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,960
So we're paying into Social Security.

1003
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Yes.

1004
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:54,400
And that is supposed to be... that is currently paying for current Social Security people.

1005
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,120
And then the next coming generation will be paying for Social Security.

1006
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:06,720
I almost wonder if it wouldn't be better to set up a government backed 401k or IRA or

1007
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:07,720
something that has...

1008
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:09,920
They've been talking about doing that crap forever.

1009
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,960
But then you can check your balance.

1010
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,800
You have a little more... there's more transparency.

1011
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,720
You also are subject to the market and people lose everything on the market.

1012
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:19,720
Yes.

1013
00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:24,520
But it would be government backed and they would only put it in government approved funds

1014
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,560
or they could do government bonds or whatever it would be.

1015
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:33,640
It wouldn't necessarily grow to the same rate as a individual 401k or an IRA would because

1016
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,880
you wouldn't be actually managing that money.

1017
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,880
But it would be there.

1018
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,360
You'd have an account, you could go in and you could check it and you could see your

1019
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,520
return every year.

1020
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,280
And you could say, hey, it's good.

1021
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:51,080
I know it doesn't take into account if you live longer than the actuary tables and things

1022
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,880
like that, but there's got to be more transparency, I think.

1023
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:56,880
Right.

1024
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,540
I mean, they've raided the Social Security fund more than once.

1025
00:54:01,540 --> 00:54:05,520
So even with the money that they took from it then, if that was to be put back into the

1026
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,640
pool, that would solve the problem.

1027
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:14,000
Like I say, we have such a corrupt government, has no responsiveness to anything people want.

1028
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,240
And these elected officials are buffoons.

1029
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:20,080
Lauren Boebert, have you heard her?

1030
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,920
We'll talk about her after we get done.

1031
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,760
But yeah, I mean, I like the idea of Social Security.

1032
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,560
I like the idea of having socialized medicine.

1033
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:34,480
Having socialized medicine with the government we have now, they're not very responsive to

1034
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:43,080
people's demands and there's very little accountability as far as the elected officials go.

1035
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,080
So the only way that that could be viable is if they removed it from the power of the

1036
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:55,200
politicians to the point to where it ran efficiently, which a lot of government agencies are, depending

1037
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,320
on the size, efficient and some are inefficient.

1038
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,680
It all depends.

1039
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,400
And they're not necessarily designed to be efficient.

1040
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:02,400
No.

1041
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:08,080
And there's a lot of room there to take something that is efficient and make it not.

1042
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,800
I'd be curious, I don't know if you've done, and I'm not trying to put you on the spot,

1043
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:16,000
but I'm not sure if you've done any research into other countries that have universal health

1044
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,000
care.

1045
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,000
I have.

1046
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,440
And if you have one country that you think absolutely nails it.

1047
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,720
I think that the English system nails it.

1048
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:28,040
I think the English system nails it.

1049
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:36,440
They have a public education system so people can get educated at low or no cost to themselves.

1050
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:44,360
And they have a GP general practitioner system nationwide to where your local doctor, you

1051
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,760
can go there and it costs you nothing.

1052
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,720
And that general practitioner gets a salary from the government and the government sends

1053
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:57,600
out a general practitioner out to some bung fuck island to take care of the 150 people

1054
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,160
out in the middle of no man's land.

1055
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,700
And they have enough doctors because you can go to school for free anyway.

1056
00:56:04,700 --> 00:56:08,160
So if you want to be a doctor, you can be a god damn doctor and it won't cost you anything.

1057
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,160
And that's all the way through college or what our college is.

1058
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,200
What they call it secondary.

1059
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,320
They have a private college system and they have a public college system and they have

1060
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,280
a private medical system and a public medical system.

1061
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,280
So they have public hospitals.

1062
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,880
So you can go become a doctor for free, close to free.

1063
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,880
Or close to free.

1064
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,040
Or you can go to a private school, which if you're rich you can go to Cambridge or do

1065
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,440
whatever and they have two separate kind of systems there.

1066
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,920
And they have two separate medical systems too because they have private medical insurance.

1067
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:44,000
So a lot of corporations, if you have a corporate job, they'll give you health insurance to

1068
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,440
allow you to bump up your coverage.

1069
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:53,200
Which you're not not covered under the public system but you're not going to be getting

1070
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,600
mints on your pillow when you're in the hospital.

1071
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,600
You know what I mean?

1072
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,600
It's bare bones.

1073
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,920
They don't give mints on pillows in this hospital, in this country.

1074
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,600
If they did they'd charge $700 for it.

1075
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:10,960
Because a nurse had to walk it from the cupboard to the pillow.

1076
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:16,000
That's the excuse for charging so much for Tylenol and ibuprofen is because you have

1077
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:22,440
a medically trained professional handling that to deliver it to where it needs to go.

1078
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:27,320
Yeah I've heard lots of things where, and I just read one the other day, where a person

1079
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,440
had a malignant, right?

1080
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,840
So it's non-spreadable or whatever.

1081
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:39,040
They had a growth on themselves and it wasn't really a danger but it was painful and everything

1082
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,200
and they were moving to Norway or something.

1083
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:46,360
It was going to cost tens of thousands of dollars here or more to have that removed

1084
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,360
and treated.

1085
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:53,520
They went to Norway and it cost them a grand whopping total of $30 to take care of that.

1086
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:59,680
And I think part of the problem is the people that say universal healthcare is bad don't

1087
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:06,880
understand the financial strain put on a country and government by people who don't have access

1088
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,440
to healthcare and therefore don't take care of themselves and then go on these other programs

1089
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,800
anyway, but end up being a lot worse for the wearer because they didn't go in initially

1090
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,920
to get it treated right away.

1091
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,280
And if you have insurance and if you have medical care and you have a problem, you should

1092
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:28,560
be incentivized to go in right away because that's when it's easiest to catch, not always

1093
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,800
easiest to catch, but if you can catch it early, it's a lot easier to treat in most

1094
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:38,880
cases and it's a lot cheaper to treat because it takes less intense actions.

1095
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,160
And there's an argument, oh, people will be going all the time.

1096
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:47,280
Well, if you have a GP or one doctor, that's to get your primary doctor, but you have to

1097
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,440
go to your primary doctor first in most systems.

1098
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:51,960
They know who's the problems.

1099
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:52,960
They know.

1100
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:53,960
They can run you in and out.

1101
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:54,960
They know.

1102
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:55,960
They're going to weed it out.

1103
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:56,960
They're going to weed it out.

1104
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,840
They're going to spend 15 minutes on you and that's going to be in and out.

1105
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,240
If somebody's a hypochondriac and they go in because they learned about monkeypox or

1106
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,840
whatever, which I guess we can't call it monkeypox anymore because it's derogatory

1107
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,280
to monkeys or something.

1108
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,280
You're fist-fucking me on that.

1109
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,280
You're not telling me the truth.

1110
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,280
No, that is the truth.

1111
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,240
It goes against the World Health Organization's naming conventions.

1112
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,000
You can't name something after an animal or a continent or whatever.

1113
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,640
That's why we can't call it the bat virus or whatever, the corona.

1114
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,640
Yeah.

1115
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:24,640
Yeah.

1116
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:25,640
Yeah.

1117
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,640
Or the other names.

1118
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,640
Yes.

1119
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,640
Yes.

1120
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,640
Which were hilarious, by the way.

1121
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:30,640
I thought it was funny.

1122
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,640
We're not mentioning those.

1123
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:32,640
I thought it was very funny.

1124
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,640
It was.

1125
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:34,640
Come on.

1126
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,000
I'm not going to say that the W word, but it was hilarious.

1127
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,080
Only because people got triggered so hard.

1128
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,080
Yeah.

1129
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,080
It was so funny.

1130
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,560
The reaction to it was funnier than the name.

1131
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:52,120
The name was ridiculous and childish, but the reaction was hilarious.

1132
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,480
But if you have a hypochondriac, the doctor knows.

1133
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,400
The doctor knows.

1134
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,880
In my job, it's the same way.

1135
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,200
There's people that complain about certain... We know who they are.

1136
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,680
We know who they are.

1137
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:11,480
It's like, I'll just call them back and talk to them and get some details and be like,

1138
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,480
all right, come on now, fella.

1139
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:13,480
Come on now, fella.

1140
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:20,880
Well, if you have educated doctors that aren't in the back pockets of prescription pill companies,

1141
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:21,880
big pharma companies-

1142
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,160
Well, big pharma, it's a lot harder for big pharma to exist in a system like that because

1143
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,040
the doctor gets a salary.

1144
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,000
Well, the doctor gets a salary and the doctor will then prescribe what works because in

1145
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,960
a lot of those countries, big pharma cannot market directly to the consumer, to the end

1146
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:36,960
user.

1147
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,880
There's two countries where drug companies can market.

1148
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,480
In the Western world, modern world.

1149
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:46,200
I shouldn't say Western, modern world because the modern world is no longer Western.

1150
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:53,720
It's a global society amongst first world nations, which is also thrown on.

1151
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,440
It's New Zealand and us.

1152
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,440
That's it.

1153
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,800
They have a universal healthcare system in New Zealand, so it's like they don't need

1154
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,280
to ban it because there's no reason for them to advertise because people can't ask their

1155
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,080
doctor for AstraZeneca products or whatever.

1156
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,880
Well, they can, but the doctor's not necessarily going to-

1157
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,040
The doctor's not going to necessarily give it to them.

1158
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,680
But here, it's like the drug companies that have the money to run the advertisements have

1159
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:21,680
the money to, I'm not going to say bribe, not outright bribe, but to incentivize doctors

1160
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,160
to prescribe their pill over another pill because-

1161
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,880
The doctors are busy.

1162
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,320
They get sent a pamphlet from Pfizer about how great their drug is.

1163
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,920
It's like, well, they don't have enough time to do research on every single version of

1164
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:36,920
that drug.

1165
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:44,160
If you watch the mini series on Oxycontin called Dope Sick, Michael Keaton's in it.

1166
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,000
It's incredibly well done.

1167
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:52,520
It's all based on the true story of Oxycontin and how they would not only market to people,

1168
01:01:52,520 --> 01:02:02,080
but they would go and send salespeople who were incentivized to be salespeople and force,

1169
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:08,480
I'm sorry, convince these doctors to prescribe this miracle drug that they just invented.

1170
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,200
They told them it wasn't addictive.

1171
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,200
Yep.

1172
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,200
It was the non-addictive opioid.

1173
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,240
I remember that.

1174
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,760
They incentivized the salespeople and they gave the salespeople all these big trips and

1175
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,920
stuff and, hey, pump your numbers up and that sort of thing, put a little more pressure

1176
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,920
on this doctor.

1177
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:29,840
They also released this pill and trials into the poorest counties they could possibly find.

1178
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,800
Which is this whole country, this whole territory up here.

1179
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:34,800
Yep.

1180
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:41,280
But they did a lot of it in mining Virginia and the Carolinas and stuff like that.

1181
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,920
So I grab my Virginia here.

1182
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:44,920
That's mining.

1183
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:45,920
That's hell.

1184
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,440
Did I ever tell you the story about going up there?

1185
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:53,120
We went over there for dinner, Sarah and I did.

1186
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,360
Just over to the mine or what?

1187
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:00,640
We went to Hibbing and we drove through Virginia to get to Hibbing.

1188
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,480
I was like, you want to swing through Virginia?

1189
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,280
She said, what the hell we want to do that?

1190
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,780
I'm like, well, that's the Oxycontin capital of Minnesota.

1191
01:03:07,780 --> 01:03:11,360
At that time, it was the number one place for Oxycontin.

1192
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:17,240
She looked at it and it was just like grain elevator tipped like 45 degrees.

1193
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,840
Just a shit hole.

1194
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,200
She's like, I would never want to go to that place.

1195
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,200
Hey, name it.

1196
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,200
Grained elevator of Hibbing, Virginia.

1197
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,280
So come and take pictures with it.

1198
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:30,280
Right.

1199
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,280
Yeah.

1200
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,240
They have like the Ranger, the Iron Ranger, the big tall.

1201
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,720
I don't know if you've been to Hibbing lately, but I was up there once, but I don't.

1202
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:38,720
Okay.

1203
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:39,720
Yeah.

1204
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:40,720
They got a big tall iron statue.

1205
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,680
The only thing I remember is how big those tires are on those dump trucks for the mines.

1206
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:45,680
They're freaking huge.

1207
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,560
Huge vehicles.

1208
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,560
They're ridiculously huge when you get up there.

1209
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:51,960
Down down Hibbing is really nice too.

1210
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:52,960
Oh, okay.

1211
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,880
I wish that all the downtowns up here were like that.

1212
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,400
They have real businesses like insurance brokers.

1213
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,520
People actually go downtown to conduct business.

1214
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:02,520
Yeah.

1215
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:03,520
Hibbing is really nice.

1216
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:04,520
They had a bar.

1217
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,840
We went to the brewery there and they had like the patio bar.

1218
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:07,840
Beautiful area.

1219
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:08,840
Yeah.

1220
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:09,840
I wish that-

1221
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,320
Not every downtown is created equal.

1222
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:12,320
No, no.

1223
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:20,080
Where we currently live, we don't really like the downtown, the town that we live in.

1224
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:25,120
The town that we used to live in, we still just love that downtown even though we don't

1225
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,920
necessarily want to live there in that town.

1226
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:34,200
Not for any reasons really, other than it's one of the hip suburbs for younger families

1227
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:39,560
to move to and so housing prices are higher than anywhere else, but the downtown is great.

1228
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,720
They've got a record store.

1229
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:46,040
They have two breweries now, antique stores.

1230
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:51,480
They used to have a movie theater, second run movie theater, which was nice, but yeah,

1231
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,080
not every downtown is created equal.

1232
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,080
No.

1233
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,680
They have ups and downs.

1234
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,640
The downtown here is a lot better than it was.

1235
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:58,920
It used to be real hell.

1236
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:03,560
Well, they've tried to revitalize it and blah, blah, blah.

1237
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:04,560
Yeah.

1238
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,840
Now, I can't remember what we were talking about.

1239
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,320
Oh, I don't know.

1240
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,240
We were talking about conspiracy theorists for a while.

1241
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,320
Miranda Wrights.

1242
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,360
I don't know.

1243
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,840
It doesn't really matter.

1244
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:21,840
Corporations.

1245
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:22,840
Yeah, corporations suck.

1246
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:23,840
We're talking about the healthcare system.

1247
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:24,840
You know what?

1248
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,080
If you're screaming at your podcast device right now and you remembered what we were

1249
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,080
talking about.

1250
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:30,080
We were talking about health insurance.

1251
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,080
We don't want a medical system.

1252
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,080
Yeah.

1253
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,080
Yeah.

1254
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,080
So England, do you like?

1255
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:35,080
Yeah.

1256
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:41,840
England seems to work out all right because it's a mixture of private and public and Americans

1257
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,360
love their corporate fucking fascism.

1258
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:55,000
So without having that release valve of corporations being able to profiteer at the upper levels.

1259
01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:05,400
Well, I went into the clinic two times because I was having issues, sicknesses, which I've

1260
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,640
pinpointed the cause of now and am now good.

1261
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:17,640
But I went in twice and I think one time I met with a doctor and one time it was just

1262
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,960
with a nurse practitioner.

1263
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:28,320
And so I feel like for the English model, one of the things would be, well, there's

1264
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,280
too many doctors then you have too many doctors.

1265
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,440
The market saturated with doctors.

1266
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:33,440
Well, you know what?

1267
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,120
A doctor has more education than a nurse practitioner.

1268
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,360
It's almost the same as teachers.

1269
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,640
It's been proven that teachers and students learn better in smaller class sizes, but for

1270
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,280
smaller class sizes, you need more teachers.

1271
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,680
And to get better health care, you need more doctors because then they can see more people.

1272
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:57,480
And you're not in the waiting room where you can catch every sickness everybody there has.

1273
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,680
And now it's a little different because in still most of our clinics and hospitals and

1274
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:06,160
things, you have to wear a mask still despite mask mandates being lifted almost everywhere

1275
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:07,480
else.

1276
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,880
And that's probably for the best because where do you see people go?

1277
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:11,880
Hospital.

1278
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,800
Where do I not want to catch whatever everybody else has?

1279
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:19,320
For what the mask is going to do, whatever it's going to do, if it's going to work, it's

1280
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,320
going to work there.

1281
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:21,320
Yeah.

1282
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:22,320
Yeah.

1283
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,320
I mean, like I think we can all agree.

1284
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,720
I went to the doctor's office last spring.

1285
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,000
I want to say I had to go take a COVID test.

1286
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,280
The guy had the doorman had to call the police on somebody because they were melting down

1287
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,720
because they had to wear a mask to come into the doctor's office.

1288
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:39,720
Yeah.

1289
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,920
It's like, dude, you are what is your problem?

1290
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:42,920
Yeah.

1291
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,120
I mean, they have people on ventilators in here.

1292
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,120
Yeah.

1293
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,080
You are you're entering a place where sick people are like, of course, they want everybody

1294
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,680
to wear a mask.

1295
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,080
That's just the way it is.

1296
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:52,080
And you know what?

1297
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,120
It probably should have always been that way.

1298
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,120
You know what I mean?

1299
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:56,120
Potentially.

1300
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,120
I mean, think about it.

1301
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,120
Realistically, the nurses and stuff, they all wear masks in there.

1302
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,320
If you're in your private room in a hospital, do you need to wear a mask if you're sick?

1303
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,320
Probably not.

1304
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,400
I mean, you know, the scrubbers and things on their ventilation.

1305
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,760
But if you're in the waiting room going to the waiting room, they want to introduce whatever

1306
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:11,760
you might have.

1307
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,440
Nor do you want whatever anybody else in the waiting room might have.

1308
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,200
They could have a super contagious disease.

1309
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,200
Right.

1310
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,200
They could have not monkeypox.

1311
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,200
Yeah.

1312
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,200
It's not super contagious.

1313
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,200
Primate pox.

1314
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,200
Yeah.

1315
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,200
Oh, yeah.

1316
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,640
So I don't know.

1317
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:29,640
It's interesting.

1318
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,120
As a cigar note, I'm about a quarter of the way.

1319
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,560
I have a quarter of the way left.

1320
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:34,560
Yeah.

1321
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:35,560
We're three quarters through.

1322
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:36,560
Yes.

1323
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,200
And this cigar has become very spicy.

1324
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,200
Very not sour.

1325
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,200
No.

1326
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,200
But spicy.

1327
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:43,200
Yes.

1328
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:48,440
I wasn't thinking about it because I was thinking more about health care and people that claim

1329
01:08:48,440 --> 01:08:51,880
they can't breathe if there's a small piece of fabric over their face.

1330
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,080
Oh, yes.

1331
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,080
And stuff.

1332
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,000
But yeah, I you know, this one's really good.

1333
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,000
Yeah, it is.

1334
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,560
It actually had that flavor change that most good cigars have.

1335
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:02,560
Yeah.

1336
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,240
And we're smoking a Rocky Patel.

1337
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,200
So yeah, it should be good.

1338
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,200
Really, it should.

1339
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:15,800
So we I was shooting the breeze with one of my longtime bowling associates about the old

1340
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,200
days when we could smoke in the bowling alleys.

1341
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,960
And because he was my smoke buddy would sit in the back of the back of the set.

1342
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,600
And I had smoked a cigar and he'd chain smoked cigarettes.

1343
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:27,600
Yeah.

1344
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,120
And he'd have a cigar every once and again.

1345
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,520
And we're talking about that.

1346
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:36,640
And I'd like to ask you, since we're smoking a cigar, do you think that they should have

1347
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,840
a smoking man like they have?

1348
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:39,840
Hmm.

1349
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,040
A very, very interesting question.

1350
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,480
Because we talked about it.

1351
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:54,720
My experience is with smoking, I remember going to the Perkins and as a kid and they'd

1352
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,240
always ask smoking or not smoking.

1353
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:05,520
You have to wade through all the shitty cigarette smoke to go and eat.

1354
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:11,360
And then you'd be in a little room like this that didn't really stop any smoke from traveling

1355
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:12,560
back.

1356
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:17,200
And I remember we would go to the White Tails Unlimited banquet with my grandfather and

1357
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:18,760
in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.

1358
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,480
And there was a big banquet hall and almost everyone there was smoking.

1359
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:25,360
And as a child, that was gross.

1360
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,280
And I'm sure as an adult, it's gross because cigarettes, secondhand smoke, just stink.

1361
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,280
They stink and they're just terrible.

1362
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:40,280
However, with that being said, and having gone to Tobacco Grove by us, the cigar lounge,

1363
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,480
you can smoke cigars that you buy there, there.

1364
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:46,320
But they've got a phenomenal ventilation system in that building.

1365
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:54,360
And I would say that if you're not having people under 18 in your establishment, at

1366
01:10:54,360 --> 01:11:02,240
certain hours even, bars, some bars are family friendly to 6 or 8 p.m. or something and then

1367
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,340
you need to be 21 plus.

1368
01:11:04,340 --> 01:11:08,600
And if they put in a ventilation system, I don't see why people shouldn't be allowed

1369
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,280
to smoke inside.

1370
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:12,760
Bars are really never family friendly.

1371
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:17,240
I was at a bar for breakfast this morning and somebody brought the child in and this

1372
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,800
dad and his buddy were pounding crowned cokes.

1373
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,280
Well, some bars are more family friendly than others.

1374
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,280
Yes.

1375
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,560
Because there's some that just have the scantily clad women all over and they've got the loud

1376
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,480
music and that's just all day every day.

1377
01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:38,360
And some bars are, let's just say, with air quotes, classier, not that that signifies

1378
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,800
anything with class or with prices of drinks.

1379
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:47,800
But this place was classier in the sense that it was serving breakfast and liquor.

1380
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:55,520
There's more bars down in the Twin Cities that you go early for a Bloody Mary and you

1381
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,080
get a phenomenal breakfast.

1382
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,560
They've got a great kitchen.

1383
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,840
They just happen to be a bar.

1384
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,520
Around here, a lot of the places you have a restaurant bar.

1385
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,040
That's what is there.

1386
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,400
So everybody has to go to it because there's only one place.

1387
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:17,400
But I would just say that I think it's fine if it's adults only and you put in a ventilation

1388
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:18,400
system.

1389
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:23,040
I don't want to go back to having to wade through the Perkins cigarette stale smoke,

1390
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,320
gross everything.

1391
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:29,520
I said this at the time and I still agree with my thought then was that they should

1392
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,440
not have banned smoking inside.

1393
01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:38,120
They should have regulated air exchange rates and come up with some sort of formula for

1394
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:44,600
places that wanted to have smoking to have proper ventilation to limit the secondhand

1395
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:48,440
smoke for people in there and the employees and everybody else.

1396
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:49,440
Yeah.

1397
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:50,800
Because you, there is a way to do it.

1398
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:51,800
There's a way to do it.

1399
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:52,800
There is a way to do it.

1400
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,200
There's a way to do it and probably be safe with secondhand smoke exposure.

1401
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,200
Right.

1402
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:01,600
And I think a lot of the bars and breweries and things have kind of tried to get around

1403
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,240
that by doing the outdoor patio.

1404
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:04,960
Yes, they have.

1405
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:09,440
And that's fine for four out of the 12 months here in this state because it's winter for

1406
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:10,440
the rest of the time.

1407
01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:11,440
Yes, it is.

1408
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:16,160
And I think that's a valid workaround.

1409
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:20,720
But again, if they want to invest in the air exchange and the filters and everything and

1410
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,760
you have a high enough ceiling, so I think that probably helps.

1411
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,040
Then I don't see any reason to not let places do that.

1412
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,800
But I just, like an airline, you don't need to be smoking on an airplane.

1413
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:34,800
Probably not.

1414
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:35,800
No, you don't have to.

1415
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,920
Well, Charles de Gaulle, when I was through there 10 years ago, I wasn't 10 years ago,

1416
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,200
like seven, eight years ago, still raked like cigarettes in there.

1417
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,800
And you weren't allowed to smoke anymore.

1418
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,200
No, they just didn't have any ventilation at all.

1419
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:48,200
And it reeked.

1420
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,200
You know, or no new tiles.

1421
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,000
No, it fucking reeked.

1422
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,000
It was horrible.

1423
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:57,200
And then I was smoking cigarettes at that time still.

1424
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:58,840
So that was 15, I think.

1425
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:04,320
But they didn't have it didn't even have a place to go smoke.

1426
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,240
You had to go outside to smoke.

1427
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,640
Yeah, it was crazy.

1428
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,960
Like the Dutch airports and the Indian airports and like the Southeast Asian airports, they

1429
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:18,480
have they have little cubes of glass that have like a ventilation system and you have

1430
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:20,280
to smoke inside of there.

1431
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,280
And they'll have like little boxes of matches to light your cigarettes because you're not

1432
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:24,360
allowed to have a lighter.

1433
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:28,080
Yeah, I actually snuck my lighter all the way to India.

1434
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,040
And then they found it there and they pointed a gun at me and thought I was like some kind

1435
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,040
of terrorist for like three seconds.

1436
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,640
You can fly with a lighter.

1437
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,440
At that time, I wasn't allowed.

1438
01:14:36,440 --> 01:14:37,440
I mean, domestically.

1439
01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:38,960
Yeah, domestically, you can.

1440
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,120
So I flew Delta.

1441
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:48,240
So I flew, you know, all the way to India with a lighter and they didn't give a shit

1442
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,720
at the three airports that I was at before I got to do Delhi.

1443
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:52,720
Yeah.

1444
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,480
And then I did from New Delhi to Roorkee.

1445
01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:59,920
And no, not New Delhi to Roorkee, Varanasi.

1446
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:05,200
And yeah, they were they were not having that they were pretty pissed off that I had a lighter

1447
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,200
in my pocket.

1448
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,800
I was like, and then they looked at me again.

1449
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,120
It's like, oh, yeah, fat white guy.

1450
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:11,120
Like we're not.

1451
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,520
We're not really worried about this guy.

1452
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:18,360
So yeah, I don't want to bring it back across the board.

1453
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:22,600
I'd be OK with it coming back.

1454
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,240
You know, the parameters you outlined.

1455
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,240
Right.

1456
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,680
Well, I think bowling alley specifically.

1457
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,200
Late night at a bowling alley is not a place for a kid to be.

1458
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,640
Oh, no, that is not a place for a kid to be.

1459
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:35,640
Yeah.

1460
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,640
So there, you know, when I bowled in Fargo, they would close the lanes down and become

1461
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:40,640
a private club.

1462
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:41,640
Yeah.

1463
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,160
And they would allow people to smoke in there.

1464
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:44,160
Yeah.

1465
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,360
You know, then I was right at the start of the smoking ban.

1466
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,360
Yeah.

1467
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:48,360
When I was living there.

1468
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:49,360
Yeah.

1469
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:50,360
But yeah, I don't have a problem with that.

1470
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:51,360
Yeah.

1471
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,640
I mean, even if you don't even if you don't put it in the ventilation and you just want

1472
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,040
to be smoking after a certain time of the day.

1473
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,640
I want them to have smoking or ventilation just because the people that were there.

1474
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,560
I would like them to have that because I probably wouldn't go there if they didn't.

1475
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,360
You know, if I showed up and I was like gagging on cigarette smoke.

1476
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:09,360
Right.

1477
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:10,720
And have the ventilation, I just wouldn't go.

1478
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,440
But then I would know if I want to bowl there, I just bowled before nine p.m. when they allow

1479
01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:15,440
people to smoke.

1480
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:16,440
It doesn't matter.

1481
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:21,740
When I was a little kid, we would show up at like seven in the morning to bowl on Saturday,

1482
01:16:21,740 --> 01:16:26,280
but they would have three shifts of leagues on Friday and the lanes would have a blue

1483
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,520
haze over the top of them from all the smoke.

1484
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,600
So they just didn't have like ventilation at all.

1485
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:37,440
They had an air exchanger the size of a like a two by four microwave.

1486
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:40,560
Yeah, like a two foot by two foot by four foot.

1487
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:45,320
And that would be their air exchanger with like dripping tar.

1488
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:46,320
You know, like nothing.

1489
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:47,320
It was doing nothing.

1490
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,320
Yeah.

1491
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,040
So yeah, I don't I don't miss those days.

1492
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,720
But you know, I don't smoke cigarettes and I don't need to eat and then smoke right away.

1493
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:55,720
Some people do.

1494
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:56,720
Right.

1495
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,680
You know, if you want to.

1496
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,160
I miss the days I haven't a drink and smoking a cigar at the lanes.

1497
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,120
Yeah, I can see that.

1498
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:08,520
You know, I'm about as young as you can be and still remember having those like still

1499
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:09,520
have those memories.

1500
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:10,520
Yeah.

1501
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:16,040
You got to put a like a two two lane in your basement here or something.

1502
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,040
Oh my God.

1503
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,040
That'd be great.

1504
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,040
That'd be great.

1505
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,040
The house isn't long enough.

1506
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,440
I'd have to extend the basement out to the edge of the four season porch.

1507
01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:24,840
And then I think we'd be long enough.

1508
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,280
Maybe you could do it because you got to have 60 feet.

1509
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,280
It was in.

1510
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,960
Was it in there will be blood.

1511
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:30,960
Yeah.

1512
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,280
I think I had bowling lane in this house.

1513
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:33,280
I like two lanes.

1514
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,280
White House has a bowling lane in it.

1515
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:36,280
OK.

1516
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:37,280
Yeah.

1517
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,720
Remember which president put him in Lincoln.

1518
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:41,720
Maybe it was.

1519
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:42,720
Maybe it was.

1520
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:43,720
Yeah.

1521
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:44,720
It was.

1522
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:45,720
It was.

1523
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:46,720
It was a good one, though.

1524
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:47,720
Yeah.

1525
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,240
One of his policies were he's a bowler.

1526
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:51,240
Yeah.

1527
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:52,240
Yeah.

1528
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:56,720
Well, whatever the best president is, in your opinion, that's who put the bowl in.

1529
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:57,720
And because he's a bowler.

1530
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:58,720
There you go.

1531
01:17:58,720 --> 01:17:59,720
Yeah.

1532
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,720
Now we know.

1533
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,440
I know Richard Nixon was a bowler and he definitely didn't have the best policies.

1534
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:06,440
Yeah.

1535
01:18:06,440 --> 01:18:12,320
You know, he's less conservative than our current president in many ways.

1536
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,400
Mr. Richard Nixon, the man who signed in the EPA.

1537
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:21,000
So I don't know.

1538
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:26,960
Is there a way outside of a Supreme Court case to give the EPA back the power it needs

1539
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,640
to do what it's doing?

1540
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:30,760
That's question number one.

1541
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:31,760
Question number two is.

1542
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:32,760
Yes, there is.

1543
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:33,760
OK.

1544
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,760
Was what the EPA was doing, was it helping?

1545
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,440
Was it fixing things?

1546
01:18:38,440 --> 01:18:42,360
The EPA never actually enacted any policy because they got sued before they could.

1547
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:43,360
OK.

1548
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:48,400
They want to do a carbon cap and trade system in the United States, which is there's arguments

1549
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,680
to about whether it's actually functional or not.

1550
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,520
Yeah.

1551
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,360
There are arguments about whether that's functional or not.

1552
01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:01,880
But the so they never enacted the policy for cap and trade for carbon emissions.

1553
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:02,880
Yeah.

1554
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:10,760
The Congress would have to pass a law explicitly saying that the EPA was allowed to regulate

1555
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,400
carbon, which would basically update their charter.

1556
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:15,400
Yes.

1557
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:16,400
Effectively.

1558
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:17,400
Yes.

1559
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,800
And then it would circumvent this Supreme Court decision.

1560
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,000
It wouldn't circumvent it.

1561
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:27,680
It would basically do what the court said that it has to do.

1562
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:34,520
It's like the legal stuff is very, very strange because it kind of you have to target the

1563
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:40,960
language at certain things that then make this or that legal or illegal.

1564
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:46,280
And under don't qualify under that initial condition, then the two outcomes or three

1565
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,000
outcomes don't pertain.

1566
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:54,600
If they like the current court is saying that if the legislature doesn't explicitly say

1567
01:19:54,600 --> 01:20:01,680
that this and this and this, then it's not enforceable.

1568
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:06,480
So things like segregation would be legal under that.

1569
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:11,540
I don't think that there's a law in the United States that bans segregation.

1570
01:20:11,540 --> 01:20:17,720
So they could theoretically because the Supreme Court decided that separate but equal was

1571
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:18,720
illegal.

1572
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,720
And the Supreme Court.

1573
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:21,720
Unconstitutional.

1574
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:22,720
Unconstitutional.

1575
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:31,080
And the Supreme Court decided that black people were citizens, not the law of the US government.

1576
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:35,400
The US government never made a law that says that because conservatives would never, ever

1577
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,200
pass a law.

1578
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,200
Conservatives of that era.

1579
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:39,200
Who knows about now?

1580
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:40,380
We'll see.

1581
01:20:40,380 --> 01:20:45,600
So I think that might be the next one will be, you know, they might not segregate on

1582
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:49,320
a race, but they might try to segregate on sexual orientation.

1583
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:57,720
I know that in Texas right now, there's talk about them trying to enforce the sodomy laws.

1584
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:58,720
Which is interesting.

1585
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:06,400
I know that the court case where that was overthrown was an apartment or like a landlord

1586
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:11,960
wouldn't rent to a gay couple because it didn't want sodomy to happen in his apartment complex.

1587
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,080
And they were basically said, well, you can't prove that they're going to do it.

1588
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,220
So you know, piss off.

1589
01:21:17,220 --> 01:21:19,520
But we'll see how that all goes.

1590
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,240
I mean, it's easy to crap on minorities.

1591
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,240
Yeah.

1592
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:29,800
And if you, you know, take precautions and are clean, sodomy is no more dirty than oral

1593
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,960
sex is also considered as sodomy, according to the Texas law.

1594
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,480
Texas is weird.

1595
01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:36,480
Yes.

1596
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:41,560
So and so Texas, which I didn't never would have thought of because of the Texas Rangers

1597
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:46,880
and everything, but they also have the most cowardly police force.

1598
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,640
You know, I don't think they do.

1599
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,760
I think it's pretty standard.

1600
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:55,880
Not sure if you were aware, but there was some people complaining about police and what

1601
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,720
they were doing a couple of years back.

1602
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,600
We had a lot of riots here.

1603
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,880
You're talking in the United States in general.

1604
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,840
But here also specifically.

1605
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,600
Yeah.

1606
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,680
I'm not sure if you're aware of that.

1607
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:18,040
You you happen to live in a city that was kind of like shut down for a significant period

1608
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:19,040
of time.

1609
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,040
And you know what happens?

1610
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,040
When you say shut down, you mean burnt down?

1611
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,080
Of large portions of it, right?

1612
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,080
Yeah.

1613
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,920
You know, I didn't change a damn thing either.

1614
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,960
They didn't pass a single law to change anything.

1615
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:28,960
Why would they?

1616
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:29,960
Nothing has changed.

1617
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:34,280
Like I say, even that is not not enough.

1618
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:40,000
Not that we're saying we need to do more.

1619
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:41,600
Yeah.

1620
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:50,600
So like people and by the people like many people have said, don't blame the Republicans

1621
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:55,280
for all the things that are happening.

1622
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,400
They've always said that they wanted this to happen.

1623
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,080
Blame both of them, the Democrats for allowing it to happen.

1624
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,320
Well, blame both of them because they they're in collusion with one another.

1625
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:07,920
Well, they don't actually care anything about you or you or me.

1626
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:08,920
No, I don't.

1627
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:09,920
They don't.

1628
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:13,120
They don't care about minorities or majorities.

1629
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:18,960
So long as one of those two parties is in power, they don't care because as long as

1630
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,660
they're in power, they get all the money.

1631
01:23:21,660 --> 01:23:22,660
They get all the say.

1632
01:23:22,660 --> 01:23:24,640
They get all the whatever.

1633
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:32,400
Well, when hell when Obama ran against McCain back in the day, Halliburton gave each candidate

1634
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,200
the same amount.

1635
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,200
Yeah.

1636
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,320
Why not?

1637
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:38,320
What is that?

1638
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:39,320
What is that?

1639
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:40,320
Oh, I think it's from it's always sunny in Philadelphia.

1640
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:41,320
It's like I'm playing both sides.

1641
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,720
So that's exactly what they do.

1642
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,120
Yeah.

1643
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:53,080
You know, so I think the people that are diluted into, you know, the Trump versus Biden or,

1644
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:57,400
you know, my candidate versus your candidate, that has nothing to do with anything.

1645
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:58,400
Yeah.

1646
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,080
Just just accept that they're both garbage.

1647
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:05,640
These corporations are funneling money to both sides because if they give them money

1648
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,640
when they're in power, they get breaks.

1649
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:12,760
And the other person doesn't care that they gave their opponent money because they both

1650
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:13,880
came out ahead.

1651
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:14,880
You know what I'm saying?

1652
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,000
Like they both made money.

1653
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,560
So they laugh about it in their cigar bowling alleys.

1654
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:19,560
Right.

1655
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,920
And they say, I see you're smoking your Halliburton cigar there.

1656
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:24,920
And I am too.

1657
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,360
You know, that's what they say.

1658
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:27,360
I'm sure.

1659
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:33,920
So if you're living in Tsarist Russia, does it really matter to the serf if the Tsar is

1660
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,220
Nicholas or his fucking brother?

1661
01:24:36,220 --> 01:24:37,220
Does it matter?

1662
01:24:37,220 --> 01:24:38,220
Yeah.

1663
01:24:38,220 --> 01:24:40,240
You're still in Tsarist Russia.

1664
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:41,240
It doesn't really matter.

1665
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:42,240
That's it.

1666
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:43,240
You're king of the who?

1667
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,240
The Britons.

1668
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:48,240
Well, I didn't vote for you.

1669
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:53,280
That's not how that works.

1670
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:54,560
I heard that one too.

1671
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,720
Don't say in Minecraft, say in Tsarist Russia.

1672
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:57,720
Okay.

1673
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:04,320
So until it's a new thing in Skyrim.

1674
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:05,320
Yeah.

1675
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:09,120
In Cyberpunk 2077 or whatever it is.

1676
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:10,120
I never played that one.

1677
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:11,120
I never played it either.

1678
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,880
But I know it made a lot of buzz because you can customize like your character's genitalia.

1679
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,240
Oh, that's pretty cool.

1680
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:17,240
Pretty fancy.

1681
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:18,240
You know what?

1682
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,240
Mike's downloading after this episode.

1683
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:26,600
I'm going to give this chick the biggest Johnson anyone's ever seen.

1684
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:34,120
I want it to be at least as big as the Rocky Patel Howitzer.

1685
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,120
Jesus.

1686
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,120
And just as spicy.

1687
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,760
Oh, it has actually the very end of this is quite spicy.

1688
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,440
This is the best part of the whole thing, I think.

1689
01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:42,440
Yeah, it's pretty good.

1690
01:25:42,440 --> 01:25:45,480
It started out good and it kind of a mellow earthy.

1691
01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:48,760
It got real nice and earthy in the middle.

1692
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,160
And then now we've got some real nice spice going.

1693
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:52,160
Oh yeah.

1694
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,720
And Mike and I, as we've said before, we like the spicy cigars.

1695
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:56,560
Yes, we do.

1696
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:57,560
So that's good.

1697
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:58,560
Yeah.

1698
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,960
I don't think I'm going to put a roach clip on it.

1699
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,660
No, I wouldn't ever anyway.

1700
01:26:04,660 --> 01:26:08,720
Even if it was, you know, like the greatest cigar of all time, I still probably would

1701
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,800
because you're not supposed to smoke them all the way down.

1702
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:18,160
Just as our what our disclaimer is, Mike and I are not to be trusted when we're drinking

1703
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,520
and kind of talking with one another.

1704
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,680
So sometimes certain things need to be removed.

1705
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,200
Absolutely.

1706
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,120
For reasons that are not necessarily strictly always legal.

1707
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:33,520
But sometimes could be.

1708
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,960
We don't we won't we'll never mention the Clinton necktie ever again.

1709
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,920
We don't want to go to Gitmo.

1710
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:45,640
Did you hear about the Clinton advisor that hung himself and also shot himself with a

1711
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,640
shotgun in the face?

1712
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:49,640
No.

1713
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:57,360
So one of the former Clinton advisors at Little Rock went to a farm that he's never been to

1714
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:06,560
simultaneously himself and shot himself in the face with a shotgun and he called it a

1715
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:07,560
suicide.

1716
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:14,840
This is like the twenty third Clinton advisor has mysteriously had a suicide.

1717
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:23,480
It's like, oh my God, when Epstein somehow managed to hang himself.

1718
01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:29,080
Yes, he managed to hang himself in the only cell that had a failed camera in the only

1719
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:30,880
hallway that had a failed camera.

1720
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:31,880
Yeah.

1721
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,440
And the only block that had guards on break for a lengthy period of time.

1722
01:27:35,440 --> 01:27:36,440
Right.

1723
01:27:36,440 --> 01:27:37,440
Yeah.

1724
01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:40,800
With the only his only roommate that was like a cop who was convicted of being like a serial

1725
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:41,800
killer.

1726
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:42,800
Yeah.

1727
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,440
Like a dirty cop, his roommate was a dirty cop.

1728
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:52,360
So there's lots of things out there that if you look into them, you'll tend to be depressed

1729
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,600
or just laugh at the absurdity of the stuff.

1730
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:57,600
You know what?

1731
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:58,600
You got to laugh because what am I going to do?

1732
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:03,000
You know, I don't live in some of the stuff that the populace believes.

1733
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,000
Right.

1734
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,000
That's spoon fed to them by the media.

1735
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,320
Oh, I looked into that story and they had like interviews with the ranch hands.

1736
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,600
Like, yeah, we've never seen this guy.

1737
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,640
He's never been here magically drives out to this ranch.

1738
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,080
And then like, you know, like he what Google mapped it.

1739
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,200
This would be a pretty place to do a horrific act on myself.

1740
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:21,200
Yeah.

1741
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,840
And then both hung and shot himself with a shotgun.

1742
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:25,840
That's pretty, pretty dedicated.

1743
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:26,840
That takes talent.

1744
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:27,840
That does.

1745
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:35,520
That is that is that is like 1936 in Mississippi committed to commit suicide.

1746
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,520
We can't stop them.

1747
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,800
Not to denigrate Mississippi explicitly.

1748
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:45,200
I think just in general, the South in that era.

1749
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,200
Yes.

1750
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:51,400
South of that era in that era, because the south of that era was a lot more north than

1751
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:52,880
a lot of us would think.

1752
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:53,880
Yes.

1753
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:54,880
Yes, it was.

1754
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:59,000
But well, that was like I always thought the Mason Dixon line was like way down, but it's

1755
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:00,000
not.

1756
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,000
It's pretty high up there.

1757
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,000
Oh, yeah.

1758
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:08,320
So one of my favorite Supreme Court cases when I was in college was a Minnesota case.

1759
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,160
And it was a free speech case.

1760
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:15,260
And there was a black guy in Minneapolis who was living there.

1761
01:29:15,260 --> 01:29:18,200
And then the Ku Klux Klan came and burned across on his yard.

1762
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:19,920
So they arrested these Klan members.

1763
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:21,960
Like you can't burn across some people.

1764
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:22,960
You heard blah, blah, blah.

1765
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,640
So the guy made a First Amendment argument that he had the freedom of speech to do it.

1766
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:30,240
And the court was like, you can burn across on your yard.

1767
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:31,240
Yes.

1768
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,240
But you can't burn across on his yard.

1769
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,240
You're going to jail.

1770
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:35,240
Yeah.

1771
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:39,520
And he charged them with terrorizing, well, the version of terrorizing at that time and

1772
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,520
property damage because he burned his grass.

1773
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:42,520
Yeah.

1774
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:47,120
Well, and that's a very reasonable response to that kind of legal challenges.

1775
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:48,120
Right.

1776
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,360
You know, and that's the whole point of, you know, the First Amendment.

1777
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:56,200
And if you're making death threats on somebody, you're no longer exercising First Amendment.

1778
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:57,200
Right.

1779
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:02,640
You know, if you're credible death threats on somebody, you're no longer making First

1780
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:08,160
Amendment cases, especially if it's a person not in the public view.

1781
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,680
Like you can say certain things about people in the public view that you could never say

1782
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:17,320
about another citizen because it would be liable slander, some other thing.

1783
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,940
But people in the public view don't have a lot of those same protections, at least legally

1784
01:30:20,940 --> 01:30:22,320
right now.

1785
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,740
We'll see what the Supreme Court does if they're done or if they're going to keep kind of rolling

1786
01:30:25,740 --> 01:30:26,740
things back there.

1787
01:30:26,740 --> 01:30:30,600
Oh, they're rolling them forward, Nate.

1788
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:35,440
Rolling them forward so that we can get what, wrapped parts in our canned beans and things.

1789
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:37,720
Oh, it's, you know, we're rolling it forward.

1790
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:38,720
That was a 1448.

1791
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,480
Is that that weird number?

1792
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:41,480
You know what I'm talking about?

1793
01:30:41,480 --> 01:30:42,480
Yeah.

1794
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:43,480
Yeah, we're rolling it forward to that.

1795
01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:44,480
We're rolling it forward to that.

1796
01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:45,480
We're rolling it.

1797
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:46,480
Oh, just around the horn.

1798
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:47,480
Just go around the horn.

1799
01:30:47,480 --> 01:30:48,480
Yeah.

1800
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:53,200
Go through the year 3000 and then boom, we're going to reset the clock, go back to 1448.

1801
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:54,200
Yeah.

1802
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:55,200
Yeah.

1803
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,200
Yeah.

1804
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:00,840
I think the Supreme Court's on storm front.

1805
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,560
They're on something, man.

1806
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,040
They might be on the spice, I think.

1807
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:05,040
Oh my God.

1808
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:06,040
Maybe they are on the spice.

1809
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:11,200
So yeah, I think about to the end of this cigar.

1810
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:16,720
If you've got about an hour and a half, two hours and you want a delicious cigar and you

1811
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:21,120
don't want to have more than one cigar in that timeframe, very, very good cigar.

1812
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:22,120
Yep.

1813
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:25,840
I would say, you know, I'm not necessarily a Connecticut fan, but this was...

1814
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:26,840
It's worthwhile.

1815
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:27,840
... great.

1816
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:28,840
Yeah.

1817
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:29,840
It was awesome.

1818
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,960
I'm almost kind of, I don't know how much different the Maduro's going to be.

1819
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:34,960
Yeah, I'm curious.

1820
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:40,920
Yeah, because this was really good and it had that nice flavor transition that I appreciate.

1821
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:45,120
It started out mellow and then it got more complex, which was great.

1822
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:46,120
Yeah.

1823
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:47,120
Yeah.

1824
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:48,280
So yeah, highly recommend the Howitzer.

1825
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,440
Don't let the size intimidate you.

1826
01:31:50,440 --> 01:31:53,400
Yes, as they say, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

1827
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:54,400
Yes.

1828
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,880
I'm curious, good and wet before you...

1829
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:03,640
Well, good and wet before you start smoking on it.

1830
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:04,640
Yeah.

1831
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,040
So thanks for listening.

1832
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:08,040
We'll catch you next episode.

1833
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:24,880
Bye bye.