1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,480 Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Nate. 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:10,480 And I'm Mike. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,600 What are we smoking tonight, Mike? 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,920 It looks interesting. 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,120 Yes. 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,720 So we have completed our CAO Flavors Tour. 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,860 And now we are going to have one more flavored cigar for you. 8 00:00:24,860 --> 00:00:31,000 This is the Colt Blood Red Moon Cigar. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,780 The Colt Blood Red Moon Tobacco, Pipe Tobacco, is excellent. 10 00:00:36,780 --> 00:00:40,140 So if you see that on a shelf, buy it. 11 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:42,080 And what flavor is that? 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Cherry. 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,240 It is cherry. 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:50,440 And that was the last CAO flavor we smoked was cherry, so we're doing a cherry to a cherry. 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,440 Yes we are. 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,440 We are. 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,440 We're going from one to the next. 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,280 I'll just cigar. 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,280 Oh yeah. 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,280 Go ahead there, Nate. 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:03,440 I was going to say, initially this is a cigar that would give me pause if I were alone because 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,360 it's got kind of two tapered ends. 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,480 One's a little pointier and one you can actually see some of the tobacco through and is a little 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,000 kind of fatter in diameter. 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Yes. 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,940 And I believe that you should snip the pointy end, smoke it from that end, and light it 27 00:01:20,940 --> 00:01:24,620 on the end that is not pointed. 28 00:01:24,620 --> 00:01:27,000 Just like you would a standard torpedo. 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Okay. 30 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,000 So that is my assessment. 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,620 And that is what we shall do. 32 00:01:31,620 --> 00:01:34,800 And I'm also going to use a flat cutter today, weirdly enough. 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:40,400 Well it would be fairly difficult to do your cross cut, V cut. 34 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,280 Yes the torpedo point is extremely exaggerated. 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:46,280 So yes. 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,840 All right, well I'm snipped and here we go. 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,840 Woo. 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:02:01,240 I don't know if it's just because of the small diameter, but holy smokes that first one was 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,240 a bit. 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,240 It's strong. 41 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,240 Yeah. 42 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,120 It's a strong. 43 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,400 I do get some cherry out of it though. 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,280 So we're going to see if my pairings are any good. 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,920 My first pairing is going to be bad, I'm certain. 46 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:25,840 I think my pairing will be bad as well because I've got like a fruit punch vodka carbonated 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,040 water thing here. 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:35,920 My first drink is the rest of a can of Guinness that I had open two days ago when I was working 49 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:38,280 in my shop in the basement. 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,280 Okay. 51 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,080 And my second one is a Stella. 52 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,200 So I'm sure that that'll be fine. 53 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:51,520 The Guinness is at least two days old, opened in the bridge, in my basement fridge. 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,120 So I'm not, you know, I'm not getting any cherry off of this one initially. 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,360 I don't think. 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:07,280 Maybe I will as we kind of work our way down though. 57 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,800 That's a very strong taste. 58 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,480 Yeah, not a cherry though. 59 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,920 No, like that's a very strong tobacco taste. 60 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:22,080 The tobacco is overpowering almost anything else I can even taste or smell right now. 61 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,080 Right. 62 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:28,280 Yeah, it's a very strong, and the Colt Blood Red Moon pipe tobacco is one of my favorites. 63 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,840 Okay. 64 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:30,840 It's great. 65 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:38,640 Not that this is a pipe tobacco podcast. 66 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,640 Not yet. 67 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,080 I could do a special episode, bonus episode. 68 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:51,480 Yes, guys, I think I have all the CEO flavors in pipe tobacco as well. 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,560 You know, I'm not doing that Bella vanilla again though. 70 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Like I don't think so. 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,800 Not even as a pipe tobacco. 72 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,800 I don't know. 73 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Maybe. 74 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,800 Don't be so prejudiced. 75 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:07,800 You know, you gotta... 76 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,800 Live and let live or whatever. 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Yeah, or if you're Paul McCartney, you just live and let die. 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,200 So it's always that. 79 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,920 I'm gonna kind of let that one sit, I think. 80 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,840 Just for a second here. 81 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:30,680 The start is extremely harsh. 82 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,120 I will not go a lot. 83 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,000 We are not even past to the point. 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,920 No, we're not even to the... 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,640 Yeah, we're still tapering up and then it gets to the... 86 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,280 It's girthiest part and then it tapers all the way down. 87 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:50,280 So I'm gonna let that sit just for a little bit and then we'll try again. 88 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:51,280 Yes. 89 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:57,520 So yeah, when you said it was cherry flavored, I thought, oh, it'll be kind of like that 90 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:58,520 CAO, but it's not. 91 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,520 No. 92 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,520 At least not right now. 93 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,280 So we'll see as it goes along here. 94 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:10,880 Well, I have to admit to the listeners, I've had these cigars for a couple of months and 95 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:16,360 I actually gave one of these to my wife's uncle on Christmas because we were smoking 96 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:24,360 cigars out in the garage at his place and he disliked it strongly. 97 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,720 He strongly disliked it. 98 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,860 So Mike waits until we're already lit and committed to doing the cigar before he tells 99 00:05:31,860 --> 00:05:32,860 me that news. 100 00:05:32,860 --> 00:05:33,860 Yes. 101 00:05:33,860 --> 00:05:37,920 I've seen it before and I'm still so... 102 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,920 Well did he make it all the way through? 103 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:40,920 This is worse than a vanilla. 104 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:41,920 Huh? 105 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,320 Did he make it all the way through or no? 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,320 Yeah, he did. 107 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,320 He did. 108 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,960 I mean, this is just, it's really harsh. 109 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,440 Oh, intent. 110 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,400 It's incredible how bad it is. 111 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,600 Especially from a reputable brand. 112 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,600 Yeah. 113 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:57,600 This is... 114 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,600 I mean, hopefully once we get to that girth part, I don't know what you call it, the ridge. 115 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:04,600 The hump. 116 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,600 The hump. 117 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,080 We call it the hump. 118 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,080 The obelisk. 119 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Yeah. 120 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Whatever. 121 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,400 Yeah, the hump. 122 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,640 Hopefully once we get there, it really starts to come down. 123 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:23,920 I'm thinking because of the, kind of like how narrow it is right now where it's burning 124 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:29,640 that hopefully that's what's causing it and maybe once we get past that, it'll hopefully 125 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,280 mellow out. 126 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:33,000 Hopefully we can get some cherry flavor. 127 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Maybe. 128 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Maybe. 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,000 We'll see. 130 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,800 I don't really have high hopes because I would have expected to have tasted some of the cherry 131 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,800 by now. 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,160 Well, yeah, usually it's a... 133 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,640 At least a hint. 134 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,600 The cherry flavoring is on both of the tips, so to speak. 135 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:55,880 So you taste the cherry with your mouth and then you, from the wrapper, and then you taste 136 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,360 it and then kind of the middle of the cigar, the flavor starts to go away. 137 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:06,080 Well, I think my really strong fruit punch flavored drink here is actually a very good 138 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,280 combo to this one at this point because it's a lot. 139 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:12,760 My Guinness was great the first I only had it. 140 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,240 I don't know, like a gulp in it, but it was wonderful to get all that nasty shit out of 141 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,240 my mouth. 142 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,240 Yeah. 143 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,240 I don't know. 144 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,240 We'll see. 145 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,760 We're going to try and give this one a fair shake. 146 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:30,560 Hopefully we're not going to cancel another cigar before we get to the end of it, but 147 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,560 anything can happen. 148 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Which one did we do that? 149 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,560 Was it the Bella Vanilla? 150 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,560 Yeah, that was the Bella Vanilla. 151 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,560 We just put it out and wrapped the episode. 152 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,560 We're like, we're done. 153 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,560 This is way worse than the Bella Vanilla. 154 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:48,560 There's no part of this that is enjoyable to me. 155 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,560 Yeah. 156 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,080 Oh God. 157 00:07:52,080 --> 00:08:00,160 So I just took another puff and I don't know if that's like stale tasting, if it's just 158 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:06,880 the... I don't know if they went around the tobacco plantation and picked up the sun dried 159 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:12,800 stuff that had fallen off and then decided to put it in here and slap a cherry on it. 160 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,080 Yes. 161 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:21,240 And before anybody says, oh, it's a bad humidor, I'm smoking one that was from my humidor and 162 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:26,160 Nate is smoking one that was in his humidor. 163 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,560 Yeah. 164 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,440 If our humidor's are bad, then everything else should have tasted bad too, I think. 165 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:39,320 But yeah, we don't really have humidity problems with our humidor's and they're not overcrowded 166 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,240 or anything. 167 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:48,080 If you are a humidor expert and want to come by and give us both a free assessment and 168 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,320 pointers, you're more than welcome. 169 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,320 But I'm with Mike. 170 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,840 I think this is... I mean, it's too early to call it. 171 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,480 It's too early to call it. 172 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:04,120 Initially, if I weren't doing a podcast, this one might be one that would just be put out 173 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,800 and I'd go grab something else. 174 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,140 But because we're doing this for you, the listeners, and we want you to be informed 175 00:09:11,140 --> 00:09:15,200 without necessarily having to smoke all of these, we're going to power through for a 176 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,540 little bit longer anyway. 177 00:09:17,540 --> 00:09:19,480 I am a centimeter in. 178 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,640 I'm past the hump. 179 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,000 I am past the hump. 180 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,000 That's more than a centimeter. 181 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Do you think so? 182 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Half an inch maybe? 183 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Yeah. 184 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:33,000 It's got to be... The hump on mine is like three quarters maybe. 185 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 I think so. 186 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,640 I'd have to... I have one more in my humidor. 187 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,640 Well go measure it. 188 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,720 I think I have one more and I could check it out I guess. 189 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,080 But it feels like it's been an hour. 190 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,080 Yeah. 191 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,080 Yep. 192 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,960 Anyway, so what are we going to talk about today? 193 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,080 Well I think you should pick what we talk about today. 194 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,080 I should pick. 195 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,080 Oh my God. 196 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,880 Well, I've been... You know what? 197 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,440 Every time I pick, you say I make you uncomfortable. 198 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,560 So... Oh jeez Nate. 199 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:09,960 Oh jeez Nate. 200 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,520 And it's the same with podcast topics and movies. 201 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,800 I mean I'm sorry you didn't like Brokeback Mountain with me but you didn't want to ride 202 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,800 the horsey like I said would actually enhance the movie watching experience. 203 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,800 Yeah. 204 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,800 The whole projector in the field with the horses, it just didn't work for me. 205 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:28,800 Yeah. 206 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,000 Well, the horses were skittish, okay? 207 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,920 So that's... But they're animals. 208 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:33,920 They're not trained. 209 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,920 That's true. 210 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:35,920 That's true. 211 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,880 You probably should have got trained horses. 212 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,360 Might have helped. 213 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,760 So anyway, it was kind of a amendment to state. 214 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Did it drop today? 215 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,760 It dropped on Friday. 216 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,760 Friday. 217 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,760 Oh, it dropped on Friday. 218 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,760 Okay. 219 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,400 So yeah, we're recording this right after Roe versus Wade got scratched. 220 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,280 No, that's not right. 221 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,760 Roe versus Wade got aborted. 222 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,760 Got aborted. 223 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:08,760 Ooh. 224 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:09,760 Yes. 225 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Yes, yes. 226 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:18,160 Which if you've listened to one of our previous podcasts, we're both pro Roe v Wade. 227 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,840 Yes. 228 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,840 Despite being men. 229 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,600 Well, I think it's hilarious that I was watching the news with my parents. 230 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:35,680 I was over there earlier for dinner and there's states that have the automatic abortion bans. 231 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:36,680 Yep. 232 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:37,680 The trigger... 233 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:38,680 I think they have an abortion of them, are putting up laws. 234 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:39,680 What is it called? 235 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:40,680 The trigger laws? 236 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:41,680 Yeah. 237 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:45,320 There's a few of them that have put a pause on the trigger law because they never thought 238 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,480 it would actually happen. 239 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:47,480 Okay. 240 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:52,280 And they don't... the governors don't actually want to close the abortion clinics down. 241 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:59,440 Because I think initially, like right now, I think there's 13 states where now it's illegal. 242 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,440 Something like that. 243 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:01,440 Something like that. 244 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:08,600 I know that in Fargo, they've already raised $700,000 to move the abortion clinic from 245 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,000 Fargo to Moorhead. 246 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 They're looking for a million. 247 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Okay. 248 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:19,640 So in Minnesota, that'll be the case for Minnesota. 249 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,840 Every highway will have an abortion clinic on whatever town is on the border. 250 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,840 Yep. 251 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,800 Then all we need to do is legalize weed and we can have abortion clinics right next door 252 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,440 to the dispensaries. 253 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,440 I know, right? 254 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,440 I know. 255 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,440 Which is fine. 256 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:40,360 Then I heard that Justice Thomas opened up his gov staff there and started yapping about 257 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:48,920 how he was open to revoking Miranda rights and he was open to revoking gay marriage legally. 258 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:49,920 He was open to- 259 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:50,920 And contraceptives. 260 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,920 Contraceptives, yep. 261 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:58,160 Then I heard some talk about the Civil... it was not the Civil Rights Act. 262 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:04,400 There's some other interpretation of the law that they made that made the separate versus 263 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,760 ... Brown versus Board of Education, that's the one. 264 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,760 Okay. 265 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:10,880 Yeah. 266 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,280 Which ended segregation basically. 267 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,280 It was separate but equal. 268 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,560 If they're looking to roll things back, they certainly have their agenda laid out for them 269 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:21,840 with all that stuff, I guess. 270 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,640 Well, you know- 271 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,800 I mean, the 1950s are coming back. 272 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Yeah. 273 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:34,920 It doesn't bother me necessarily personally because I live in Minnesota and so none of 274 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,960 that will affect us personally. 275 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,960 Well, yes. 276 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:44,520 I mean, it depends on what they do with the contraceptives. 277 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,120 Well, the state will pass a law that protects contraceptives. 278 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,800 I don't know if we might even already have a law in the book. 279 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,800 It's possible. 280 00:13:53,800 --> 00:14:01,280 It's one of the states that has legal abortion written into the law. 281 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,120 I think that the state would have... Minnesota would have a hell of a time banning contraception 282 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,040 because of the state employees unions. 283 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:14,280 I don't think that they would take kindly to that. 284 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:15,280 But we'll see. 285 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:21,680 I don't know how many states would actually ban contraception. 286 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,960 I know that back in the day they did, but- 287 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,640 That just sounds like... Yeah. 288 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,800 I don't know about that. 289 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,720 I mean, I don't know about any of it. 290 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:37,400 Like none of it should be really like on the docket as it were. 291 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:42,560 But I'm not part of a crazy right wing religious cult. 292 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,520 So I'm sorry. 293 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,440 I'm not part of Christianity. 294 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,480 Yes. 295 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:56,520 I'm not under any sort of delusion that the government is there to push my morality forward. 296 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,520 No. 297 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Because like I say, the government is not a moral actor. 298 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,000 It is not a moral actor. 299 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,400 It does not decide what's right and wrong for people to do. 300 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:13,520 But I think now it's trying to is the problem because you can't be for people's personal 301 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,760 choices in life and then say you can't have an abortion, you can't marry the same sex 302 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,480 people, you can't have contraceptives, you can't go to school with black people if you're 303 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,520 white or vice versa. 304 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:30,600 On the same note, the government's also trying to or certain state governments are trying 305 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:41,360 to push some pro LGBT things onto businesses and things like that in different ways, which 306 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,840 I'm not necessarily against being pro gay rights. 307 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,480 I'm for gay rights, but at the same time, I don't think that it's the government's 308 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,520 place to tell you that you can't be a fucking prick. 309 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,520 It is your right to be an asshole. 310 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,200 It's your right to be a worthless person. 311 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,200 Yeah, there's that. 312 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,200 You can be a scumbag. 313 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,200 It is a lot. 314 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,000 I mean, you can definitely swing too far in both directions. 315 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,720 For sure. 316 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,640 So I'm over the hump now. 317 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:15,400 The tobacco has mellowed out, I think, in my opinion. 318 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,680 I wouldn't go so far to say it's a good smoke and I wouldn't go so far to say that I taste 319 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,280 any cherry whatsoever. 320 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,160 I'm over the hump. 321 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:30,280 I would say that the tobacco is not good, but it's no longer vile. 322 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,280 Yes. 323 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,280 It was vile. 324 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,280 It is now... 325 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,280 It was not good. 326 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,280 ...bearable. 327 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:41,280 I'm not going to say it's good because it's not good. 328 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,560 It's still bad and I taste no cherry whatsoever. 329 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:46,640 No. 330 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,720 I think... 331 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:58,560 This kind of pains me to say this, but I'd rather smoke that Bin Maduro we had without 332 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,880 tequila on it before this one. 333 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,360 Absolutely. 334 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,360 There is no doubt. 335 00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:07,640 I would rather smoke the Bin Maduro with vodka on it. 336 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:15,200 Well, I'd rather smoke that almost all day every day, but I love vodka cigars or tequila 337 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,200 cigars. 338 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,200 Oh, vodka cigars are terrible. 339 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,200 Tequila cigar. 340 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,200 Yeah, tequila cigars are the good stuff. 341 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,200 For those who don't know about it. 342 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,200 I don't think we've talked about it. 343 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Did we not talk about it or did we? 344 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,200 I don't know. 345 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,200 I can't remember. 346 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:36,120 We had a party a while back and we tried it with a locally produced vodka on it. 347 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:37,560 Which is great vodka, by the way. 348 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,920 Which is great vodka. 349 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:47,360 For those of you who live next to a distillery, try out whatever your local alcohol is because 350 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:49,040 it's probably very good. 351 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,360 Most likely. 352 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:52,160 Not necessarily on your cigar. 353 00:17:52,160 --> 00:18:00,520 I think tequila is like the magic cigar liquor because the vodka didn't enhance the flavor 354 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:09,000 and then we had the very bland flavor of the Bin Maduro and then just vodka, but it kind 355 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,200 of like all soaked in. 356 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:17,080 But it didn't do anything to enhance the flavor, so it was just like drinking kind of a slow, 357 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:21,760 just sipping vodka and having a very bland cigar. 358 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,680 So it was not ideal. 359 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,160 No, it was unpleasant. 360 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:31,080 We might have to try it with some whiskey or something next time. 361 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,080 What about white rum? 362 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,320 Oh, we could do that. 363 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,320 Do some real McCoy. 364 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,280 Yeah, and maybe gin. 365 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,880 Gin, I don't know. 366 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,600 I think the clear liquors. 367 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:49,080 Gin would be, I don't know if that piney taste would be all that good with it. 368 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,920 You know what I mean? 369 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:51,920 You know what? 370 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,800 If our listeners want us to. 371 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,200 I don't see why not. 372 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:01,640 We'll just go grab a couple more Bin Maduros and we'll set up gin for one and we'll do 373 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,040 white rum and we'll do whiskey. 374 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,560 I wonder if brandy might be okay. 375 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,120 That's generally a little sweeter. 376 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:11,720 Oh, brandy would be great, potentially. 377 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:12,720 Possibly. 378 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,680 We thought vodka would be good, but it wasn't. 379 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:16,680 I did think it. 380 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,960 I like that vodka. 381 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,240 It's sweet, that vodka. 382 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,240 Yeah, not sweet enough. 383 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,200 Yeah, this is horrible. 384 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,200 It's not good. 385 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,200 I'm not a fan. 386 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,200 No. 387 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,000 Yeah, my mom was all psychotic about it. 388 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,960 She's pro-life kind of, kind of not. 389 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,880 Okay, and we're talking Roe v. Wade, not the cigar, right? 390 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,960 Roe v. Wade, yeah, yeah, Roe v. Wade. 391 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:46,400 She worked with lower income people, her profession. 392 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:53,640 She's retired now, but she's against the whole using abortion as a birth control method because 393 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:59,920 she saw a lot of that in her career, you know, dealing with people who are lower income. 394 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:10,680 Oh, and that's kind of what it comes down to is all the rich people will still get them. 395 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,360 And the religious people, guess what? 396 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:17,640 They'll still get them, but they'll have some kind of story concocted in their head how 397 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,640 their abortion doesn't count because they, you know, ask forgiveness from God or God 398 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,320 told them to get it or whatever. 399 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,120 Oh, they'll just cover it up. 400 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:27,720 Yeah, well, they'll cover it up. 401 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,480 And there's reports of, you know, Christians saying that that have gotten abortions that 402 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,480 said their abortions didn't count. 403 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,320 Is that kind of like the born again virgin phenomenon? 404 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,320 Yeah, yeah. 405 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:50,240 I just want my foreskin back. 406 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:55,560 I will not go into any further detail than to say that my father's family is anti-Catholic 407 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,560 traditionally. 408 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,560 Okay. 409 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:04,400 So, old English stock, as they say. 410 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,400 Yes. 411 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,400 So, yes, non-religious. 412 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:14,200 Crazy, you know, it's crazy what people normalize under the guise of religion. 413 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Oh, yes. 414 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,880 Oh, yes, for sure. 415 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,640 It's interesting. 416 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,000 That's like the female genital mutilation that was going on in Minnesota a couple years 417 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,000 back. 418 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,800 How do they have to stamp that out or they just stop talking about it? 419 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,400 I don't think I heard about that. 420 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,400 Oh, yeah. 421 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:40,120 But I don't Google female genitalia near as often as Mike does, I guess. 422 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:44,160 No, no, you probably don't. 423 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:51,800 Well there was a Republican woman, state senator, who was trying to ban it. 424 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,640 And a bunch of Democrats came out against banning female genital mutilation in the state 425 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,640 senate a couple years ago. 426 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,640 It was all crazy. 427 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,640 That sounds pretty weird. 428 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:05,640 Yeah, that's when I was working in North Dakota and I was not a resident of the state of Minnesota 429 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,640 at the time. 430 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,120 So what's the, like why? 431 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:14,920 Like why female genital mutilation? 432 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,920 Like why? 433 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:22,920 And specifically in Minnesota, it's the Somali population that does it. 434 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,720 But it's kind of an African thing. 435 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:33,600 From what I understand, there's like a cultural thing against women getting sexual pleasure 436 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,840 in parts of Africa and the Middle East. 437 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,840 I thought that was worldwide. 438 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,840 Sure. 439 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,240 I don't think that's worldwide, Nate. 440 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,520 Do your homework, boys, is all I'm saying. 441 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,880 I don't think it's worldwide, Nate. 442 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:54,240 I've lived in the United States for 30-some years. 443 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,920 And it's never been a ban on women enjoying sex in the United States. 444 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:04,360 No, I was making a joke like a lot of times men don't please their partners. 445 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:06,200 Oh, well, yeah. 446 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:12,280 Okay, so they're anti-female pleasure, so that's why they mutilate all of that stuff. 447 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,640 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 448 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,600 So there was a big movement to ban it in Minnesota and there was resistance. 449 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:23,160 And then they caught a doctor in Michigan performing the surgery because it's kind of 450 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:29,920 like the whole circumcision thing in the Jewish community where the rabbis do it. 451 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:35,960 Well, like the local shaman or whatever they call the guy usually does the surgery. 452 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,280 And there was a couple of doctors that were doing it. 453 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,080 And I blew up there for a quick minute. 454 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,440 Yeah, I think they're not... 455 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,060 I just Googled this. 456 00:23:46,060 --> 00:23:47,320 They're not called shaman. 457 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,320 They're called clippers. 458 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:56,600 But I don't want to attack shamanic religions either. 459 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,880 I just don't know what the term is. 460 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:00,880 They're not... 461 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,880 Who are they? 462 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,880 Clerics? 463 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,880 I don't know what they call them. 464 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,880 They're not priests. 465 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,600 Yeah. 466 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,080 They're bad, bad people and they should be stopped. 467 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,200 Cutting off clitorises has never been a part of the culture that I exist in. 468 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,200 So at least not the real record. 469 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,200 More should it be. 470 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,480 If I'm kind of weird, I mean, it's really fucking weird. 471 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,200 Well, it's as weird as circumcision, I guess. 472 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,680 Like if you think about it, the only reason circumcision isn't weird is because it's been 473 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,680 going on for so long. 474 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,680 Sure. 475 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,680 I mean, that's true. 476 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:38,800 And they do it before any of the men have kind of like memory. 477 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,600 It just happens and you have no say. 478 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,600 And that's that. 479 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:49,080 From what I understand, the female clitoris removal can be pretty damaging, like beyond 480 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,080 what it is to a man. 481 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,080 I should think, yeah. 482 00:24:53,080 --> 00:25:02,880 It's not exactly the equivalent, but it is intellectually, but it's not in reality. 483 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,880 But it's pretty fucked up. 484 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,280 Like I say, I haven't looked into it for a long time and it doesn't really... 485 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,480 It's something that directly affects me. 486 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,880 I'm definitely against mutilating the genitals of any child. 487 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,640 How about just like against mutilating anybody? 488 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:25,200 Well, you know, I mean, if the punishment fits the crime, I guess. 489 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,120 I could imagine certain circumstances where somebody would feel that... 490 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:30,120 Yeah, okay. 491 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:36,840 Let's just say I'm against mutilating anybody for religious purposes. 492 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,880 I would agree with that. 493 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,560 Us being largely non-religious. 494 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,560 Yeah. 495 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,880 Like, you know, generally non-religious. 496 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,400 At least not extreme religious. 497 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,360 So there we go. 498 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:57,720 I don't think there's ever been a unitarian female genital mutilator. 499 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,720 Yeah. 500 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,400 I don't know. 501 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,400 There might be. 502 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,400 I think Google did it, I suppose. 503 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:11,120 There's a joke that I was told there's never been a unitarian terrorist, you know? 504 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:12,120 Yeah. 505 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:16,320 Well, except for the founding fathers. 506 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,640 Well, I mean, they weren't terrorists for like the cause of unitarianism. 507 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,160 Well, no, but they were terrorists in England's eyes. 508 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,600 I guess there's always two sides, two viewpoints. 509 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,000 They were terrorists who happened to be unitarians. 510 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,200 They weren't necessarily because... 511 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:38,840 Oh, now you'll split hairs. 512 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:47,480 So I devoutly believe that I don't know exactly what's going on, but I think that it's this. 513 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,640 Yes. 514 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,400 I think I do know what's going on here. 515 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:56,320 I'm halfway through this just atrocity that is the cigar. 516 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,120 And it's not improved. 517 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:01,440 And I'm not getting any cherry. 518 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,080 No, I'm getting no cherry. 519 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,080 I'm getting... 520 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,080 Very acrid. 521 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,520 I'm trying to slow it down to like... 522 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,040 Acrid tobacco. 523 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,000 Yes. 524 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,840 This is like a gas station cigar that is not humidified. 525 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,840 Yeah. 526 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,840 Yeah. 527 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,840 This is... 528 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:26,400 I mean, maybe they put all the good tobacco into their pipe tobacco and then, you know, 529 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,840 anything that doesn't pass muster, they're like, let's just fucking wrap it up and sell 530 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,840 it. 531 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,840 Maybe. 532 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,800 I know that the pipe tobacco is good. 533 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:41,480 This would be way better if they would have just done a Maduro blunt with the cherry pipe 534 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,440 tobacco inside of it. 535 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,440 Yeah. 536 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,320 You know, this... 537 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,640 I think that this would be better if they literally would have done anything other than 538 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,120 what they did to it. 539 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:53,120 Yes. 540 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:54,120 This is worse. 541 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:57,240 This is worse than the Bella vanilla, I think. 542 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,240 Because it's so strong. 543 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:05,560 You know what, I would smoke the Bella vanilla before this one if I absolutely had to. 544 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:14,240 But this one is very much one I will never, ever, ever smoke again. 545 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,880 Right. 546 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,240 Yes. 547 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:23,320 But yeah, it's not good. 548 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:29,800 So do you think, to bring things back, do you think that the people protesting then 549 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:35,840 are justified if most of the states are going to decide on their own? 550 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:44,720 I mean, you know, it's kind of like the state's rights versus the federal. 551 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,120 You know, Nate, I'll be honest. 552 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,280 I'm of two minds. 553 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:56,920 The passive aggressive Minnesotan in me is happy that the Supreme Court is going to roll 554 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:03,840 back human rights because I live in Minnesota and that means that states like Minnesota 555 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:11,400 will get less brain drain to shitholes like Texas and people will be more inclined to 556 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:17,480 stay here because they're going to be not subject to being terrorized and harassed by 557 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,480 assholes. 558 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,480 Yeah. 559 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,480 Yeah. 560 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,160 You know what, my counterpoint to that is on one hand, it sounds great if you have these 561 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:31,640 places where the laws reflect whatever your beliefs are and then you actually move to 562 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,520 those places. 563 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:39,040 But I think in reality, these people aren't going to go and move to places where the laws 564 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:47,360 reflect their desires or their beliefs and they instead will then not rest until wherever 565 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,960 they're living also reflects what their beliefs are because I don't think any American really 566 00:29:52,960 --> 00:30:01,360 has ever moved in America, any modern American has ever really moved anywhere for their beliefs 567 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,040 except to Florida because there's no income tax or something. 568 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,440 There's a lot of that tax stuff. 569 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:14,040 I knew a lot of guys that had PO boxes in South Dakota because there you can be a resident 570 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:20,320 and just have a PO box that you check twice a year and that was at one time that law. 571 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,600 You had to physically be in the state two times a year to check your mail and there's 572 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:31,840 towns there that have more PO boxes than people that live in them. 573 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,480 And that's kind of like their business model there. 574 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,540 But it's hard to say. 575 00:30:38,540 --> 00:30:39,540 People used to do it. 576 00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:46,240 I know it's definitely a regression to like the old green book days, which you know what 577 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,200 the green book is when I reference that. 578 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,200 Yeah. 579 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,200 Okay. 580 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,200 Yeah. 581 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,800 But for those of our listeners that aren't in America and aren't familiar with that portion 582 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,040 of American history, there's actually a movie that they made about it called The Green Book 583 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:08,960 and it's got Viggo Mortensen and I think it's Mahershala Ali. 584 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:16,880 The Green Book was a travel guide for African Americans knowing which states and towns and 585 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,360 things were friendly to African Americans. 586 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,960 Which gas stations even. 587 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:24,960 Yeah. 588 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,360 I mean, I think they broke it down as far as they could, provided as much detail as 589 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,360 they could. 590 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,360 Yeah. 591 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,160 They'd bring in, they basically have pit stops on highways and stuff like that. 592 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,160 Yeah. 593 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,220 And the movie is really well done too. 594 00:31:37,220 --> 00:31:42,640 So if you'd rather not read about it and just kind of watch, I thought the movie was well 595 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,640 done. 596 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,640 But I don't know. 597 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:52,240 I think people who are educated and who have the ability to move may do it. 598 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:58,920 Of course the people who are not in a position to move are screwed, which stinks for them. 599 00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,920 Yeah. 600 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:08,640 And like we said earlier, overturning Roe v. Wade really affects the poor people. 601 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,640 Yes. 602 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,720 And minorities. 603 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:19,440 So then those are probably the people that don't have the resources to move. 604 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:26,040 And I just think like, we have a constitutional amendment banning slavery. 605 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Yes. 606 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:37,080 And so why wouldn't we at the federal level have the utmost freedom of people's choices? 607 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:46,600 Well, the federal government could pass a law today and make it happen, but they don't. 608 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,600 Maybe they will. 609 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:56,280 They only pass laws when congressmen and things are being harassed at their homes. 610 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,400 Potentially. 611 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,480 This is where we get when nationally that half the population doesn't even vote, which 612 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:09,520 I understand that in a lot of ways our elections are held in such a manner that poor people 613 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:15,240 or poorer people and a lot of working class people can't vote. 614 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,560 And I do have a certain amount of quote unquote privilege with that because I do get four 615 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,520 hours paid to go vote. 616 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:30,320 If I so choose, I can get paid for four hours to go vote. 617 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,320 And a lot of other people are in a position where they also have the time, by one means 618 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,000 or another, they have the time to vote. 619 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Yep. 620 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:48,200 So I think, and you might have a thing that would be against this, but I think with our 621 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:57,240 voting process here in America, why don't we just do it all online? 622 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:06,560 We pay our taxes online, a good portion of us, that's secure. 623 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,760 Every American citizen has a social security number, as we discussed in another episode, 624 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,320 tie it to that and don't let one social security number vote twice. 625 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,000 There could be some scamming with that. 626 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,560 I think that maybe every state does it differently. 627 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,320 I don't usually vote on election day. 628 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,680 I just mail in my vote or I'll vote at the courthouse early. 629 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:35,600 When I lived in North Dakota, I would always just vote at the courthouse. 630 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,960 In that state, at least when I lived there for a month before the election, you could 631 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,200 go into the courthouse and they had a whole room set up for it and you'd go through the 632 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:50,520 line and you could vote early, right at the courthouse, whatever county you lived in. 633 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,200 So that was pretty convenient as far as that goes. 634 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,080 And I did mail in voting. 635 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,880 I haven't actually gone to the polling place to vote in many years. 636 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:06,200 I always vote early or by mail. 637 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:12,680 So then why does mail work, but internet wouldn't? 638 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:18,360 I've never had anybody accidentally buy something or hack into my Amazon account and buy a bunch 639 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,360 of stuff. 640 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:26,920 I mean, I know it happens, I guess, but with all the secure stuff and then you could have 641 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:32,200 your public libraries could be voting areas and poor people could come in and vote. 642 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,240 I mean, if we really wanted voter participation, that's what we would do. 643 00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:42,200 But there's a lot of places where they want to minimize voter participation, not maximize 644 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,200 it. 645 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:48,400 And you also have to consider we live in a state where the average turnout is up above 646 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,000 70%. 647 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:57,000 So we already have fairly high voter participation here relative to the average in the country, 648 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000 at least. 649 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Yeah. 650 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:09,080 I think these nationwide issues like Roe v. Wade, I'm looking at it more of a nationwide 651 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,080 thing. 652 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:16,280 Could you get more people to vote or more people to exercise their right to vote? 653 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:23,520 And if they can't get to the polling station or if it's too difficult or whatever other 654 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,880 obstacles they have, I mean, if you could do it online through secure portal, I work 655 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,880 online. 656 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,160 They have like a work VPN that I have to log into. 657 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,440 So I don't know why you couldn't have like a voting VPN or... 658 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,360 Yeah, remember too, that elections are run by the states. 659 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,440 They're not run by the federal government. 660 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,000 So that's always been the case in the United States. 661 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:54,480 So like nationally women were allowed to vote in 1919, I think, or something like that. 662 00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:00,860 But in federal elections, women had been voting for 50 years before then in Western states 663 00:37:00,860 --> 00:37:06,640 because women were allowed the right to vote in Western states and many of them at least. 664 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:13,920 And so the women were voting for president in the 1880s, just not nationwide. 665 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,920 Yeah. 666 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,720 But aren't these voting machines, like, aren't they fairly expensive and like to maintain 667 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:22,720 them and update whatever? 668 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:23,720 Oh yes. 669 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:27,720 If you ask Mike Lindell, they're not safe either. 670 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:28,720 Yeah. 671 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:32,720 But if you ask Trump, like it doesn't matter how many times you push the Trump button, 672 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:34,080 like the Biden one lights up. 673 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,080 So... 674 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,080 Right. 675 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,080 Right, right. 676 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,080 And there's the... 677 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,080 I don't know. 678 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,080 Yeah. 679 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:48,760 I mean, I feel like if one or two states implemented online voting, it wouldn't be too long before 680 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,620 other states did. 681 00:37:50,620 --> 00:37:57,960 Maybe not Texas, but other states that might want more voter turnout. 682 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:05,160 But maybe not because there are a few states that do the stacked ranked voting and not 683 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,480 all states do that and we don't do that for president either. 684 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:08,480 So... 685 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,480 Right. 686 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:17,180 Well, like when I was living in Minot, I always voted early at the courthouse, but North Hill 687 00:38:17,180 --> 00:38:19,320 one year ran out of ballots. 688 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,440 So once they hit their ballot number they had on hand, then nobody else got to vote 689 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,440 for that day. 690 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,440 Okay. 691 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,160 So they had hundreds of people who didn't cast a vote because they quote unquote ran 692 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,280 out of ballots for people to cast. 693 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,120 There's a way to control it. 694 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:41,120 A lot of the local people, a lot of people running the local elections are ultimately 695 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,120 the ones in control. 696 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,120 Yeah. 697 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:49,120 There's a number of methods for them to manipulate it. 698 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,560 Not having ballots on hand for people to use is one way. 699 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,560 Yeah. 700 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,640 Don't look in our dumpster. 701 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,680 But we ran out of ballots today. 702 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:05,360 Oh, my buddy couldn't vote in that election and he waited in line for four hours because 703 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,800 they were going to get more ballots from a different part of town and they just never 704 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,360 came. 705 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,360 He was not happy. 706 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,360 He was not impressed. 707 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,360 Yep. 708 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:28,480 So real quick, because I'm like dangerously close to getting this cigar as far away from 709 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,280 me as possible. 710 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,840 There's been some call for expanding the Supreme Court. 711 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,640 Sure. 712 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:46,000 And that's happened in the past from what I've heard. 713 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,560 And I haven't really looked into it. 714 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,640 But if you understand it. 715 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,600 Yes, I have some understanding. 716 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:59,920 And that's basically they would just that by adding more seats to the Supreme Court, 717 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:08,040 that would allow the current president Biden to put in more liberally leaning justices. 718 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,040 Correct? 719 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,760 Well, theoretically, yes. 720 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,960 I'm more cynical than that. 721 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:23,560 But whoever the sitting president is, if they were to expand the court, would be the one 722 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,720 to nominate and then the Senate would have to approve. 723 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:33,320 Yeah, they'd still have to go through the nomination process or the vetting process. 724 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,320 Right. 725 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,320 Right. 726 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,920 Which would only mean that they'd be more conservatives on the court at this point, 727 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:46,760 because Biden is the last Dixie crap in the government who was opposed to desegregation 728 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,440 back in the day. 729 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:57,320 He's extremely conservative, has come out as opposed to abortion in the past. 730 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,760 This president is not going to do that. 731 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,520 There was talks during the Obama administration and doing that, but he was against that as 732 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:11,840 well, because he was as much as the rhetoric would make you believe otherwise, he was also 733 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,800 a very conservative president. 734 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:22,600 So that's not really a realistic strategy at this point in time. 735 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,880 The last time it was seriously considered was when FDR was president, because the Supreme 736 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,100 Court at that time was blocking the early New Deal programs. 737 00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:39,760 So he threatened them to expand it to 15 justices from nine back then. 738 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,980 And they basically laid down and did what he told them to do then. 739 00:41:44,980 --> 00:41:50,680 But we had a competent president who had an agenda that was popular. 740 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:57,720 So that was a totally different environment than we're currently in. 741 00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:01,560 In hindsight, a lot of people like to poo poo on FDR, the New Deal, but at the time 742 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,840 it was incredibly popular. 743 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,680 And you know what's not incredibly popular is the cigar. 744 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:12,480 And I was letting it sit and it went out and I'm just, I'm not going to relight it. 745 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,200 And I'm on the last inch here. 746 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,000 And the horrid, acrid taste has gone away. 747 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:26,600 It is now basically just a flavorless stick of cancer in my mouth. 748 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,760 And I'm taking no joy. 749 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,840 It's just no longer openly offensive. 750 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,840 Yes. 751 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,720 Well, that's not enough of a recommendation for me to relight this or try and do anything 752 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:40,220 else with it. 753 00:42:40,220 --> 00:42:42,880 So I believe that's it for this episode. 754 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,880 Awesome. 755 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,880 I'm tossing it in the ashtray. 756 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:50,680 I was going to say, unless you want to really get down to it and get your roach clip and 757 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,920 smoke every last bit. 758 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,240 No, I had like an inch, inch and a quarter left. 759 00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:57,520 So there was plenty left if it was good. 760 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:05,120 Yeah, I had, let's see, it's about maybe two, two and a quarter inches left. 761 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:11,600 Out of a four inch cigar, you had two inches left and you're giving it up. 762 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,680 Yeah, I can't, I can't do it. 763 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,160 I can't and I won't do it. 764 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,160 That's horrible. 765 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,840 This one is a hard pass from me. 766 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,560 Oh man. 767 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,560 Hard pass. 768 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:31,680 Yeah, I, I, I heartily recommend the Colt Blood Moon pipe tobacco. 769 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,480 If you could find it, it's always sold out everywhere. 770 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,480 Very popular. 771 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,280 And I heartily recommend anything other than this cigar. 772 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,480 Yeah, it's wretched. 773 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,480 Anything. 774 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,480 Yeah. 775 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,480 Yeah. 776 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,480 All right. 777 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,240 Well, thanks for listening and we'll pick you up next time. 778 00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:54,800 Toodles.