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Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Nate.

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And I'm Mike.

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Now what in the heck are we smoking tonight, Mike?

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Well on a theme from a previous episode, we are starting our CAO Flavors extravaganza.

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And the one we're smoking tonight is the one I've had.

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I've never tried any of the other ones, but it is the CAO Moontrans.

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And how would you describe this flavor?

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It is officially bourbon vanilla.

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And the wrapper itself is a little sweet.

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Yes I noticed that.

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And the smoke is sweet as well.

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Alright so I'm lit.

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It is a bit sweet, it's not, I would say initially it's not overpoweringly sweet.

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No, in my experience these have not been overpowering.

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They're just not nice.

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You know what?

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It took me about four or five puffs to finally get the vanilla.

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I'm not getting a whole lot of bourbon right now flavor, but the vanilla is coming through.

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Bourbon vanilla is a type of vanilla.

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Yes, I believe, I think.

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I can do some internet research and find that out real quick.

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I thought it was bourbon with vanilla, but I don't know.

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So far I like it.

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It's a good change from our Kohiba Black that we smoked last episode.

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I wouldn't probably want to smoke two of these in a row.

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Just initially thoughts out into the void.

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But you know I also don't necessarily want to drink like two hard seltzers in a row either.

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Yes.

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But speaking of drinking.

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Oh yes, drinking.

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Well you do the bourbon vanilla thing first.

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Okay bourbon vanilla is a type of vanilla and it is the OG powerful vanilla from Mexico.

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So for those of us who go to Mexico occasionally and pick up the big bottle of pure Mexican

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vanilla that is bourbon vanilla.

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That's why it's so good because it's the real stuff.

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Got it.

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Yes.

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Well I do like this vanilla flavor.

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Does not taste artificial really.

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You know it's got a nice feel, nice taste profile to it.

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Yes.

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I would say.

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I'm drinking with my cigar an Insight Vibe which is a New England IPA from a Minnesota

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brewery.

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And I am drinking Michelob Golden Light because I had some extras from my trip.

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And a nice clean crisp light beer is perfect for a cigar like this I think.

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Yes.

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Any beer is a good beer if you like it.

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Yes.

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I saw that on a bumper sticker once.

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No I didn't.

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I just was trying to be prophetic but I'm not.

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Again, we always have this disclaimer for those listeners outside of the Northern Territories.

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McGolden Light is a kind of like a Bud Light another light.

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It's a lot regional.

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It's better.

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I think it's better.

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But it's along the same vein.

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So real quick about McGolden Light.

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This is an interesting story for me and maybe not for you.

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But I didn't force you to subscribe to our podcast.

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So here we are.

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One of my good buddies spent many, many, many, many years.

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He's eight years older than me so many, many, many years.

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Many years bartending.

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And I for some reason in my head I thought Coors Light was the end all be all for light

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beers.

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And I had gone to the bar he was bartending at and drunkenly, not so drunkenly, drunkenly,

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maybe I don't know.

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I wasn't there.

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Mentioned that Coors Light was the best light beer.

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And he goes hold up fucker and what he did is he blind poured me a taste test.

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We did a blind taste test right there in his bar.

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He poured Bud Light, Coors Light and McGolden Light.

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And he said McGolden Light is the best light beer you can ever drink.

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And I said no way dude.

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And so he poured me those three and he mixed them up behind the bar in little shot glasses

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and I tasted them.

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And the one that I liked the best sure as shit was McGolden Light.

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Compared if you do a blind taste test with the three of them is very weird.

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It's very interesting because the Coors Light even though you think it's better than Bud

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Light, I don't know.

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I might rank it the least least tasty of all of them and it just has to do with their marketing

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I guess.

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So that's really like the power of marketing.

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But if you do a blind taste test, you know McGolden, I'd drink McGolden if I was drinking

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Bud Light beer.

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It's kind of a special treat for my friends who aren't from this area because they don't

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have access to it.

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So anytime you can get something it's kind of like Yinglings on the East Coast.

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Yeah we just had some of that.

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One of our neighbors brought back a 12 pack for us and it was good.

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I liked it.

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I really like Yinglings.

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You can't get it here in Minnesota.

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No you can't.

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I actually saw a guy fishing who had Yinglings and I didn't have any beer on me but if I

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did I would have tried to trade him one.

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Yeah you would have traded.

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Here's a McGolden for a Yingling.

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A Yingling is the oldest brewery in America though.

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It's the first brewery.

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So that's kind of their claim to fame.

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And their beer is tasty.

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It is.

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All right what are we talking about tonight Mike?

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This morning.

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Whenever you're listening.

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Whatever time it is on your clock right now you look and then that's what we're talking

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about right now.

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Yes.

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I believe the topic today is going to be the leak.

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The leak that we had from the Supreme Court.

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And not Roe v Wade.

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Oh yes.

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Roe v Wade.

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Okay.

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I think like just additionally up front.

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Let's just up front.

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Both Mike and myself are men.

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We do not have uteruses.

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We know this.

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We understand this.

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We're going to say some things I'm sure that will be offensive to somebody somewhere somehow

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some way.

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Additionally I would like to say because this does matter Nate and I are both in a position

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where abortion is likely not going to be a part of our lives at this point.

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Because we're both stable adults in stable relationships and you know if my Sarah got

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pregnant we would not have an abortion.

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So it's not really not really something that personally affects either one of us.

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Nate has a child as well.

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So you know that it's not going to affect him and his wife.

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So but we're going to we're going to try and be objective with this discussion and hopefully

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not piss too many people off.

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But well I'm sure I know because I have a pretty hard line stance.

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Okay well very very hard line stance.

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Okay let's let's get into it then.

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What's your hard line stance?

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Let's just get that out of the way and then we can talk.

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Sure.

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Unborn children are not citizens of the United States and they do not have rights.

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It's not about morality.

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It's not what's right and wrong.

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Government policy is not about what's right and what's wrong.

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It's about laws and what the rights of citizens and oftentimes governments do things that

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are not morally right.

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That's why we have we round up illegal illegal aliens even though they're fleeing war torn

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poor places and they're trying just trying to work and feed their families.

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That's why we get into wars.

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That's why we do all sorts of things.

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We as in our society our government is not a moral force.

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It's just a function of our society and it makes laws to make everything functions more

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smoothly right.

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There's not a moral element in fixing the road.

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There's not a moral element to regulating pollution in my opinion.

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Or regulating flavored cigars.

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Right a lot of people try to bring emotion and morality into government functions and

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that is not how good government works.

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Good government works on just facts and focusing on the facts and the fact is is that a woman

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carrying a child is a citizen and the unborn child is not.

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So the woman has all the rights and the unborn child has zero of the rights.

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That's just the way the laws have to work in order for our society to function.

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If we look at nature right a lot of other species that their children are their offspring

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I don't know some people get kind of messed up when you talk about pets or animals as

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like people or whatever so the other animals offspring are usually born and then in an

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hour a couple hours they're like good to go mostly you know yeah they still need their

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mom for food, nursements and protection but they are up there running they're walking

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they're jumping whatever and us our evolution has favored the brain so it keeps us in for

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as long as the brain needs to cook and then we're out and we need you know the year, year

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and a half to actually be able to walk around longer to speak cohesively coherently to other

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people to communicate.

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So you could say that a fetus in the womb if you were to say well you can't abort this

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fetus because it is a person well take it out and you're going to find out really quickly

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that it's not.

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It most certainly is not.

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It can't sustain itself.

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It can't breathe on its own.

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It can't even find food on its own.

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You know a baby human abandoned on a doorstep if nobody checks the doorway it will die.

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It doesn't have the means to feed.

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It doesn't have the means to protect itself.

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It can't move.

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It can't even roll over yet.

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I mean that's a developmental milestone is being able to roll over for humans.

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Right and for those listeners who are trying to argue against Nate he's talking about wild

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animals not domesticated animals.

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A lot of people have experience with domesticated animals and a lot of times domesticated animals

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are helpless for weeks and months.

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But that's because we domesticated them and made them that way.

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A dog cannot survive away from human society.

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We purposefully evolve those animals to be dependent on us.

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And it's crazy because sometimes it doesn't even have to do with evolution.

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There's a Raptor Center here in Minneapolis and they rescue eagles and falcons and other

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Raptors birds of prey.

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And there are some that are there and they say this bird can never ever be released back

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to the wild even though we're here to rehabilitate them and to release them.

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That's our core mission.

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But if they've become too humanized or too dependent on humans they cannot go back.

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They'll just die.

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You know and so I can see on one hand if we're going to stick with the Raptor Center.

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Let's stick with the Raptor Center just for a moment.

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You save a Raptor, you rehabilitate it and you say to truly be a Raptor you need to be

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in the wild.

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Well if you release it in the wild it will be killed or die of starvation.

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And then the Raptor you spent all that time and effort on that was all wasted more or

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less because maybe you bought it a couple extra months or a year but it wasn't ready

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to go back.

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And part of the way that humans have evolved is we're very tribal and social and you know

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you need that I don't know if you need the full 18 years but you certainly need I don't

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know I don't know if it's six I don't know where it would be where you could go and actually

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kind of like survive on your own.

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It would depend on where you're from and where you live for sure because in a big city it's

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different than out in the wilderness or out in a more rural setting.

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But that's part of part of how we've evolved is our children our offspring they're dependent

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on us for a good chunk of their early lives and without that input it's very very detrimental

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and life-threatening in some cases.

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Oh absolutely.

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Children are extremely labor intensive for a decade at least a decade.

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Yeah our daughter she loved she loved playing in the snow and she would play out there literally

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all day but in Minnesota here it gets below zero and she doesn't know that she doesn't

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know what frostbite is she doesn't know what exposure is and if we weren't watching her

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and didn't bring her in when she started getting cold even if she couldn't tell that she was

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cold or couldn't articulate that she was cold you know there's there's certain things like

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there's environmental factors to to consider as well.

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Absolutely but this is just kind of a lengthy way of saying or trying to say that we're

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trying really to look at this from as many angles as we can without becoming overly passionate

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about one side or the other because like most things in American politics or just American

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society because football teams can be very divisive and you can get to the very the us

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versus them argument very very quickly in anything that you try and talk about with

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Americans very quickly and especially when people try to bring up morality because that's

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like your opinion man you know you that's not a fact you can't back that up with evidence

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you can make moralistic arguments but you can't it's not like one plus one equals two

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you know.

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And maybe and maybe this is a good kind of piggyback off of our last episode when you

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were talking about the the Treaty of Tripoli where we're not and never have been and maybe

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until recently a Christian nation.

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Right right you know.

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Right and neither one of us are Christians so that does skew our perception.

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Excuse it.

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Not that I was raised Catholic so I do understand.

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Yeah I was raised Lutheran which is Catholic light so.

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Right.

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You know we have less Latin but just kind of you know as much kind of strict adherence

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to random random ramblings from the sky.

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The Bible I mean.

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Oh geez that's that's that's that's a zinger that's going to make people upset.

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Good.

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Let's get get your heart pumping.

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Sure heart disease is one of the leading killers of Americans so let's let's get that blood

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pressure up a little bit.

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Let's let's delve into this first and foremost I think I should say this out front.

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I am not concerned in the least about the leak from the Supreme Court.

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I don't care that it happened.

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I don't care who did it.

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I don't want them to be punished.

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Our our our court of the land should not be secret.

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I don't care about the leak as much as I care about what was leaked.

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See and I will come up I will say that I am not I'm not against the leak.

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I think that it was politically motivated who knows by who.

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There's various factors that go into it and I ultimately don't think that Roe versus Wade

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being struck down is going to matter ultimately because people who support abortion are the

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majority and the states that have a lot of Democrats are already have legal abortion

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it won't change.

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The states that are run by the anti-abortion forces generally Republicans already restrict

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abortion extremely.

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I think that eventually those states will loosen up their abortions regulations due

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to public pressure.

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Unless there's some crazy riot there won't be any immediate change unfortunately people

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will suffer usually poor women typically poor women or teenagers.

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See that's what I was going to say.

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You know that's who's getting abortions to begin with are poor women and you know disadvantaged

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women and teenagers or women that have our their life is threatened or who've been raped

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you know there's usually not a good situation.

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I mean I should say 100 percent of the time there's reasons why people get abortions and

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it's because it's not good.

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I don't have any proof of this but I saw something that said that you know the people who outlaw

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abortions are the same people who will drive their kids to the abortion clinic or will

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pay extra to have a kind of a clandestine abortion where nobody knows of it.

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And I think it just kind of comes down to if you're in the ruling class you're not the

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average citizen whether that citizen is wealthy or poor if you're in the ruling class a politician

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or a corporation that sponsors or has bought in several politicians you know what the laws

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don't matter to them and they're going to do whatever they do and mostly what they do

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is kind of two faced and is really for some.

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The best way to explain this is kind of like I've been reading Dune in the Dune series

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and I'm halfway through the second book already but one of the lines in there is like plans

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within plans within plans and so some of this stuff like we're just not going to understand

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like why does what is a Republican conservative Republican Christian want to restrict abortions

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when maybe they themselves have driven their daughter or their son's girlfriend to go get

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an abortion like what's in it for them.

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I don't know I couldn't tell you it's something that I can't I can't put a number on I can't

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put a figure on because I'm not in that in that circle in that realm.

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I don't know what all happens happens there.

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The polling shows that about about 25 percent of the country is a hundred percent against

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abortion and then about 60 percent are for abortion in some fashion of which about 25

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percent are like me where it's like abortion all the way like I don't care.

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It's not a matter of morality to me.

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I don't think that abortion is a good thing and I wouldn't I'm not a participant in abortions.

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I would say that it's not right for me to do for me but I look at it purely from just

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a government angle.

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You know government is not a moral entity.

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It does all sorts of things that are morally wrong but it does it for practical reasons

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and abortion exists for practical reasons because we have poor people.

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You know we have prostitutes we have rapes we have teenagers who get pregnant.

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These are factors in society that we have not alleviated and we have people that for

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whatever reason the pregnancy doesn't go as planned and could threaten the mother.

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Sure.

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Absolutely.

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You know absolutely and that's and I think bring up as well.

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Yeah.

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Well how about this.

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How about this.

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I'd say it's not a poor woman.

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I'd say it's a slightly well to do woman and she gets pregnant but you know that doesn't

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fit with her plan for her life.

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That's her right or.

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Okay.

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I mean that's what I'm trying to get at because there are some people that say like if you're

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limiting women's right to choose regardless of class and I would say.

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I don't want any limitations on it.

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It's not my business.

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No it's not my business either.

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I'm just saying that you know you hear all these arguments from the pros and the anti's.

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Sure right.

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My argument is typically not made in public because people aren't very philosophical about

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what the role of government is.

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They can choose what they want the government to do based on whatever their opinion is at

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the time.

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Yeah same with the Bible.

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Absolutely.

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So for those readers who don't know me obviously readers listeners who don't know me I was

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heavily influenced by John Stuart Mill who wrote on liberty and who wrote utilitarianism

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and I pretty much agree 100 percent with those two treatises.

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For those who don't know utilitarianism is the concept that decisions should be made

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based on what brings about the quote unquote greatest happiness which I generally think

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how the is how the government should be run and on liberty is a statement that says the

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individual should be free to do whatever they want as long as it does not directly harm

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another individual not indirectly but directly harm somebody else.

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See that's similar to to my thoughts.

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I don't know where it came from or where it started out but the my right to swing my fist

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ends at your face is is basically like a summation.

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Right.

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Of that.

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Not not saying that you know given somebody the old one too isn't sometimes called for

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but it's usually only in self-defense.

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Usually speaking you can't just go waylay somebody because they called you a bad name

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online or something like that.

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But then we get into that definition of directly harming another individual and we've got people

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that that say an unborn fetus is an individual.

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Well that's where utilitarianism comes in.

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Right the government has to run as a utilitarian entity in order to be fair and prosperous

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and well run.

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And unfortunately because of where our society works the greatest utility is that citizens

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have rights and non-citizens don't because we as a society give benefits and rights and

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perks to being a citizen and you have to in order to give benefits and perks you have

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to exclude people who are part of the group.

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And we don't give social security numbers to unborn children.

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Right this is social security.

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Now you're part of the system.

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So let's talk about that because you're born and you don't necessarily have to file for

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the social security number right away.

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So are you telling me that if you put off filing for the social security number that

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you could choose to post a post abort your child.

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Very interesting.

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I did not know that the parent had the option not to file for social security number.

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I figured it was automatic.

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You know it's I don't think it's no well it's not necessarily automatic.

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It's something you certainly have to do but the hospital doesn't really care.

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You know what I'm saying.

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You have to fill out the birth certificate.

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Kind of like your service card you know like you have to fill it out.

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Yeah I don't you know I'm not sure you have to fill out the birth certificate but I know

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that you know until the birth certificate is filed anyway you don't you're not assigned

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a social security number and it takes the social security office some time to assign

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one because they have all those numbers to count I guess.

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Sure we're kind of splitting hairs here but you know what I mean.

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Well no but I'm doing this as part of a devil's advocate.

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Yes that's true.

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Because I want to let's like delve into it a little bit.

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Sure.

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Because you know we're a modern society and even non-modern societies had bureaucracy.

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So your child was born let's say you've got I don't know if there's a if there's a limit

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between how long you can go before picking a name.

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You know I mean and filling out the birth certificate like there's I'm sure there's

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some statute of limitations like you have to do it at a certain point.

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But then but then that's that if you if you would sit there and say until you have a social

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security number you're not a citizen you don't have rights you're not an individual.

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There's like a two maybe a two week window between everything being you know agreed upon

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name wise and sent in and filed and then returned.

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Sure.

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Would that also be a legal time to terminate the pregnancy?

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You know I would say that from a government perspective they have to establish some point

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at which you become a citizen and have rights.

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So if it was at the point of birth or is it at the point of you know at social security

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I would say it has to be when you have a social security number.

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Well okay so here's the other question because legally legally if you're born on American

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soil you're an American citizen.

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Absolutely.

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That's why we have so many foreigners that come in and they call them anchor babies and

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if that's a racist term I'm sorry but I don't know what else to call them.

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Sure.

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So then but they wouldn't have a social security number immediately either.

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It's just they were born here.

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Oh they would have a social security number if they're a citizen.

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Yeah but did they file the proper paperwork?

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Well that's another question.

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Yeah I know.

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That's another question.

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That's why I'm asking it.

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By the way update I'm about halfway done with my cigar.

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You're only halfway done?

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I'm only halfway done.

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Oh Mike Mike Mike.

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I'm just about to the little wrapper the little.

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Oh I took my wrapper out right away.

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What's it called?

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A band.

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I've only got about an inch and a half left of the cigar.

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Oh see and I have a good two inches left.

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I've been smoking it slow.

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I usually like this a lighter tasting tobacco.

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Very smooth.

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Yeah it's very smooth.

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It's got that nice vanilla flavor.

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Yeah.

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I really enjoy it and I like to smoke these cigars with my Sarah because she likes them.

430
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Okay yeah.

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Here's my thoughts.

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The first few puffs were not overly vanilla-y.

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The subsequent I don't know 15 or 20 pretty strong vanilla.

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I don't know if it's just my palate acclimating or the vanilla kind of tapering off a little

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bit.

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But I still get the vanilla.

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It's just not as strong so it's a very smooth, very very smooth.

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The sweetest part is probably the very beginning I think.

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And it becomes kind of less sweet as you move along.

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A lot of that has to do with the flavor on the wrapper.

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Which is good for me.

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Like I enjoy this.

443
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This is a very good cigar.

444
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They're excellent.

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I don't particularly care for flavored tobacco products but those that I do like.

446
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I really like.

447
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And this is one of my favorites.

448
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Well I can see why.

449
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Just about anybody can smoke a cigar like this.

450
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Yes.

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Who's of age of course.

452
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But you can definitely give one of these.

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This was a Robusto size.

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I don't know if we said that.

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But anybody a non cigar smoker can easily smoke one of these and enjoy it.

456
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Very nice and light and smooth and still got the good tobacco taste.

457
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But they're overall a very good cigar.

458
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Yeah it's still very much a cigar.

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It's not one of the heavy air quotes cigars that the FDA is trying to ban where you smoke

460
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grape cough syrup.

461
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This is very much a cigar with vanilla in it.

462
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Yes.

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So anyway so yeah and you know like I say I'm pro-abortion and I don't pretend to care

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what the arguments against abortion are because I don't it's just not practical.

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And I don't care about the morality of it.

466
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Do I think it's moral?

467
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No.

468
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Doesn't matter.

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The government's not about what's right and wrong.

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What is functional and what they can tax.

471
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Right you know I mean we can look at the war on drugs and the legalization or persecution

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of marijuana.

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I guess I'm you know what I'm going to go out and just say that I am pro-citizen's choice

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whether that's male, female or any of the other genders.

475
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If you're a citizen then you have your choice and that should not be infringed by the government.

476
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Absolutely.

477
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I am very pro-personal liberty.

478
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Yes.

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And I don't think that there should be any restrictions on what people can and can't

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do to themselves.

481
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I support full drug legalization.

482
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Oh me too.

483
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Nobody's going to start smoking meth tomorrow because they legalize it.

484
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It's not a realistic fear.

485
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I'm not going to smoke meth.

486
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,680
You know people who are currently smoking meth are doing so regardless of what the law

487
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,680
states.

488
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,440
We might as well make it a little safer, legalize it and tax it.

489
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,440
Oh yeah.

490
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:33,320
I mean here I guess this is kind of you know.

491
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Here's my kind of thought on hard drugs and things and I wouldn't consider marijuana a

492
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,360
hard drug.

493
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,200
But let's just go let's go here.

494
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,680
Preventative laws real quick.

495
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,480
I am 100% against preventative laws.

496
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:57,640
If I'm driving home and I'm staying in my lane and you pull me over and I blow over

497
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,140
the legal limit.

498
00:33:59,140 --> 00:34:03,960
I didn't hurt anybody, I didn't harm anybody else's property.

499
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,800
Leave me alone.

500
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:12,560
Now if I am intoxicated and I did damage to somebody's property or I did damage to somebody's

501
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:20,260
person or life, there should be a higher tier of punishment for me.

502
00:34:20,260 --> 00:34:21,800
But there shouldn't be preventative.

503
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,320
If I'm speeding, leave me alone.

504
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:32,240
If I am speeding and kill somebody or damage property, give me a higher tier punishment

505
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:37,600
but do not give me a punishment preventatively for something I have not yet done.

506
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,040
I'm not as extreme on that as you.

507
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Generally I think speed limits in residential neighborhoods should be low and enforced and

508
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,820
on highways they should be not there.

509
00:34:52,820 --> 00:34:57,840
Who cares what you're driving as long as the highway, drive as fast as you want on the

510
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,840
highway.

511
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,840
It's very difficult to design a highway that way.

512
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,160
Granted it's very difficult to design a highway that way.

513
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:14,280
But we could initiate an auto bond like policy and have people drive in the right lane at

514
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,240
a responsible speed and people who want to drive fast have them drive in the left lane.

515
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:25,200
Well I mean that's the whole issue is those slow people in the left lane.

516
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,560
They're ruining it for everybody, really.

517
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,880
But you know speed limits when they were first instituted, the cars were not the same as

518
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,600
today.

519
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:42,840
And you know you've got all of these crazy, crazy things that have come out.

520
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,640
And I drive a 2004 Honda Civic.

521
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,560
It doesn't have any sensors, it doesn't have backup cam or anything.

522
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,960
And my wife drives a 2016 Toyota RAV4 and it's got backup cameras, it's got proximity

523
00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:03,000
sensors, it's got blind spot detectors, it's got radar cruise control of all things.

524
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:10,200
And I don't know, you know, if those things work and those things are legal then there

525
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,720
shouldn't be a speed limit.

526
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:13,720
Sure.

527
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:22,160
But like I said, the only issue would be teenagers driving through residential neighborhoods.

528
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,640
I can see that.

529
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,480
You know, I mean I understand, you know, kids playing in the street.

530
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:33,480
But that also comes kind of down to personal responsibility too is if you feel in control

531
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,060
of your vehicle is one thing, that's personal responsibility.

532
00:36:37,060 --> 00:36:42,200
And if you're not in control of your vehicle then you need a punishment befitting that.

533
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:47,240
The other personal responsibility is the roads, the streets.

534
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:50,160
And kids aren't perfect and kids are learning.

535
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:56,440
But roads are not play areas, you know.

536
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,440
And that's something that we're working with our daughter on is if we're crossing the street

537
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,800
you hold one of our hands or both.

538
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,480
You know, we look both ways and she's not quite two yet.

539
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,860
But she knows when she comes up to the street she'll reach out for one of our hands.

540
00:37:11,860 --> 00:37:13,080
So that's where I mean we're working on.

541
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,760
She doesn't do it every single time, but she does it a majority of the time.

542
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,760
But you know what?

543
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,760
All it takes is one time.

544
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:29,740
So you know, for me there could be a little wiggle room in residential areas and things

545
00:37:29,740 --> 00:37:30,740
like that.

546
00:37:30,740 --> 00:37:36,640
But the other thing is we've got an uncontrolled intersection in our neighborhood here.

547
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:46,400
There's no stop signs whatsoever on one intersection and that bothers me just as a driver because

548
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,760
I don't trust other people.

549
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,760
But we don't really value personal responsibility in our society.

550
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,160
So that's another kind of contributing factor.

551
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:02,760
Given your neighborhood I'm guessing you have a lot of Norwegian standoffs at that intersection.

552
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,440
You know, actually I've never ever met another car at that intersection.

553
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,240
But it still bothers me.

554
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:11,520
I try not to go that way.

555
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,640
I go different ways to avoid that intersection because I don't like it.

556
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,640
I don't like it.

557
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,640
But I love roundabouts.

558
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,840
But I hate that intersection.

559
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,840
Most people hate them.

560
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,840
The roundabout.

561
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,080
Depends on where they're located.

562
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,160
They're my favorite thing.

563
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,200
I wish every intersection was a roundabout.

564
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:33,320
I know we can't do it because of square footage or whatever, but I love roundabouts.

565
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,720
A lot of it is traffic volume too.

566
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:41,600
I hate other people trying to use roundabouts, but I love using roundabouts.

567
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,800
I almost rear-ended an old lady at a roundabout.

568
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,840
I had to take the center of a roundabout to avoid hitting her because she stopped in the

569
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,840
middle of the roundabout.

570
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,840
Yep.

571
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,560
And that's the problem with roundabouts is people aren't taught them and they can't.

572
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,280
It's almost like, can you fix my Wi-Fi?

573
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,840
Can you teach me how to use this roundabout?

574
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,800
Like it's simple.

575
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,800
Same one.

576
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,960
Somebody came backwards down that same one and was going in a circle, man.

577
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:15,760
Was going down the road when I was driving down it.

578
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,000
It's interesting.

579
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,240
Yeah.

580
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:23,360
People are interesting.

581
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,040
I don't think we solved the Roe v. Wade thing.

582
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,720
One of the concerns I saw online, and it's very tough now for me to decipher if people

583
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:40,400
are actually being reasonable or if they're trying to perpetuate a political message one

584
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,160
way or the other, but they were saying that if Roe v. Wade gets overturned, then they

585
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:51,280
might also make condoms illegal unless you're married or something.

586
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,520
And I don't know, man.

587
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,920
There's a lot of open room there.

588
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,640
And I will say, this is one thing that I will say that is political.

589
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:06,640
I feel that I have not been pro or anti-democratic Republican too much.

590
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:15,320
But as of today, and it has been for a long time, there's a bill in the Senate with 48

591
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:21,040
Democratic sponsors who have already written onto it that would legalize abortion nationwide.

592
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:30,800
And those weak Democrats will not bring it up for a vote even though they have 48 signatures.

593
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:37,240
So those of you who are going to say all Republican this and Republican that, you're barking up

594
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:38,640
the wrong tree.

595
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:45,680
The Democratic Party are the ones who have caused this problem because they can't put

596
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:52,760
the pressure on the members of the Senate and the members of Congress to pass a law

597
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,020
even though they have a majority.

598
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:57,760
They have a majority in the Senate, they have a majority in the Congress, and they have

599
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,080
the presidency.

600
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,160
They could easily pass this through.

601
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,280
Easily.

602
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,780
No problem at all.

603
00:41:04,780 --> 00:41:07,280
And they won't fucking do it.

604
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:13,600
So if you want to look at who's responsible if you're pro-abortion, look at your Democratic

605
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,960
senators and Congress people.

606
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,960
And the president.

607
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,080
Or better yet, give them a call.

608
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,080
Send them a letter.

609
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,080
Sure.

610
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,680
I don't know if that works.

611
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,680
I think it does.

612
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,680
I mean, it might.

613
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:26,680
It might.

614
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,680
I don't know.

615
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:34,920
I know usually they don't read them, their aides do.

616
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:35,920
Right.

617
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,360
I know one of the big talking points during the last election was that Joe Biden was going

618
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,040
to be an arm twister because he was in the Senate for so many years.

619
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,280
It's like, well, the people who are in charge of the government, who are all Democrats,

620
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:55,600
are not willing to bring up the dirty laundry of their fellow members of government to get

621
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,800
this law passed.

622
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,800
And that's what it takes.

623
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,400
But they're all like 102 years old, though.

624
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Well, I know, but you know, there's always dirty laundry to bring out, you know.

625
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:11,080
LBJ was having secret meetings with the Republicans in his bathroom, you know what I mean?

626
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,840
They can do the nipple pinch if they got to do it.

627
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,800
Have all the places to do a secret meeting.

628
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,800
He did.

629
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,800
He did, famously.

630
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,680
He would take shits and talk to people and threaten them.

631
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:27,800
Well, you know, I guess if you're talking to somebody taking an angry shit and they're

632
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,440
threatening you, they don't really have a whole lot to fear.

633
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,440
Right.

634
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:39,600
But so that's, you know, that is my little political statement is that there is a bill,

635
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,880
there's been a bill, it's the same bill that's been around forever.

636
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,160
It's basically codifying Roe versus Wade into federal law, which would make the Supreme

637
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,280
Court null and void.

638
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,800
But they won't do it because they don't want to do it because they want to run on it because

639
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,160
it's a political issue and they don't care about the consequences.

640
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,360
And there's no there's no negative repercussions for them doing so.

641
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,680
And they're going to continue to do it probably.

642
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,680
Yeah.

643
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:13,720
And you know what, I don't know if we talked about it, but I don't vote anymore.

644
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:21,880
I used to and I used to vote third party and until I realized and it was I learned that

645
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,120
Republicans and Democrats work together to keep third parties off the ballot because

646
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:31,640
they feed all the media and they say, you know, vote for third party is stealing a vote

647
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:37,360
from insert your favorite political party of the two here.

648
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,960
And they work very efficiently together to keep third parties off the ballots, to keep

649
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,700
third parties out of the public mind.

650
00:43:46,700 --> 00:43:51,720
You know, and they work very hard to keep things that keep them in power is kind of

651
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:53,640
what it comes down to.

652
00:43:53,640 --> 00:44:00,520
And it's very, very frustrating for somebody who was kind of taught that even one vote

653
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,840
can count and matter.

654
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,760
But with the Electoral College and with the kind of the brainwashing of the American populace

655
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:17,200
with third parties are wasted votes, it's going to take a huge campaign to undo that

656
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,560
in the public eye, I think.

657
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:27,160
Well, the winner takes all voting system we have benefits a two party system.

658
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:32,680
And it is just a fact that the Democrats and the Republicans are almost identical on every

659
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,200
issue that matters.

660
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,240
Yeah, that'd be economics, war, taxes.

661
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:43,080
They agree on all the things that actually affect how government works.

662
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:48,320
Yeah, and they fight on the little little things that don't affect them, but could have

663
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,600
huge consequences for for citizens.

664
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,500
Sure, it has huge consequences.

665
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:58,560
But there's typically and this is my opinion, the arguments usually don't have negative

666
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,640
consequences if they just do the quote unquote right thing.

667
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:10,160
You know, legalizing gay marriage didn't negatively affect anybody.

668
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,280
People owning guns legally doesn't negatively affect anyone.

669
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,620
You know, there's a lot of these issues that they want to talk about.

670
00:45:18,620 --> 00:45:23,900
There's no negative consequences for half of the issue, quote unquote.

671
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:30,760
You know, trans people having basic human rights does not negatively affect anyone.

672
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:36,160
Yeah, you know, a lot of it's just bullshit.

673
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,720
It's bullshit because it makes people emotional and they want to talk about morality and blah,

674
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:41,720
blah, blah.

675
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,720
And, you know, it doesn't matter.

676
00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:46,840
What matters is that we don't have a flat tax.

677
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,960
What matters is we don't have universal health care.

678
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,880
What matters is that we are fighting wars on multiple continents.

679
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,360
What matters is we have 180 military bases.

680
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,560
What matters is that our military takes half of our budget.

681
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,540
What matters is we're running deficits every year.

682
00:46:01,540 --> 00:46:03,420
But both parties want to run deficits.

683
00:46:03,420 --> 00:46:06,280
Both parties want to have fucking a huge war machine.

684
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:11,120
Both parties don't want to tax corporations.

685
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,760
Both parties don't want to put tariffs on foreign made goods.

686
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,320
So it won't change.

687
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,280
And those things would have real long term benefits, you know.

688
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,280
Yeah.

689
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,920
Not to sit on my high horse or, you know, up in my tower.

690
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Hey, it's called the soap box, Mike.

691
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,600
Yeah, I know.

692
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:31,600
I know.

693
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,280
It's all bullshit is what it is.

694
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,280
It's all bullshit.

695
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,280
Yeah.

696
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,280
But you know what?

697
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,920
It's our podcast and if we have soap boxes, then they're ours to stand on.

698
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,920
I guess so.

699
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:41,920
Yeah.

700
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,160
But, you know, I agree.

701
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:49,600
It's very it's one of those things where the more you learn about American politics, kind

702
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,720
of the more depressed you become.

703
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,080
Oh, sure.

704
00:46:54,080 --> 00:47:01,800
I love the CNN quote and they were talking about firearm control after a school shooting,

705
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,440
which I'm anti school shooting.

706
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,440
Yeah, me too.

707
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:11,600
I just I want to make that clear that we're both anti school shooting.

708
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,440
But some CNN host said fully semi automatic firearms.

709
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:22,760
And it's like what a manipulation to people who don't understand firearms.

710
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:27,040
Fully semi automatic is a nonsense term to scare people that don't know what the fuck

711
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,040
they're talking about.

712
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,040
Yeah.

713
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,460
You know, and I don't like Steven Crowder.

714
00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:39,320
I'm not a fan, but he did a great video where he had a bunch of models of the Ruger 1022

715
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,240
and he had people point at which ones they want to ban and which ones would be legal.

716
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:47,680
And then of course, they pointed all the ones that were souped up with the extended magazines

717
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,120
and they had plastic stocks.

718
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,800
You know, they're like, oh, that one's OK.

719
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,920
And it's like the wood one with a short magazine in it.

720
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,440
Yeah, it's like they are all extended magazines.

721
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,440
They're all the same gun.

722
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,920
You know, they're all the same firing mechanism.

723
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,320
Well, yeah, it's all the same.

724
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,320
It's all the same thing.

725
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,320
Mine is stainless.

726
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,560
I've got a Ruger 1022 stainless steel composite stock.

727
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,560
I've got a couple of banana clips, you know, quote unquote banana clips.

728
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,560
I also have a Ruger 1022.

729
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,040
Yeah, and it's wood.

730
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,760
And I have a lot of 25 round all Ruger branded magazines.

731
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,440
Well, yours is safe and mine is not very clearly.

732
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,440
Yeah, because mine's wood.

733
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,720
Yeah, it's got a scope on it.

734
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:24,720
Yeah, mine's stainless steel.

735
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:25,720
I don't have a scope.

736
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:26,720
I just got the pop up sights.

737
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:28,720
So OK, yeah, no, I have a scope.

738
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,680
I used to shoot Prairie Dogs with it.

739
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,680
We would do all that.

740
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,320
Obviously, you know where I live.

741
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,720
It's like shooting squirrels and porcupines and, you know, the skunks and stuff.

742
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:42,080
Oh, yeah, just the last one.

743
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,560
Last skunk I shot, I shot him with your hunting rifle.

744
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,640
Well, sometimes you got to send them extra quick to God.

745
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,000
I just wanted to make sure that I hit it and it would die right away.

746
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,400
You know, all those things.

747
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,320
Yeah, but the humane thing.

748
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,360
Yeah, I was trying to be I was trying to be as humane as possible.

749
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,320
And it was a way it was long enough to where I wasn't quite sure that 22 was going to be

750
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,960
able to, you know, I wasn't sure about my optics.

751
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,280
Yes.

752
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,520
So anyway, it's it's it's all AstroTurf.

753
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:23,320
And this I feel that abortion is along the same lines.

754
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,320
The most of the people that really care about abortion are not going to be affected by the

755
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,320
laws changing.

756
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,600
You know, it's kind of a hidden issue.

757
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,600
People getting abortions.

758
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:40,600
Yeah, it's you know, there's definitely social stigma around it.

759
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,660
Oh, sure.

760
00:49:42,660 --> 00:49:48,880
And now they're publishing various animal medicines you can take to induce abortion.

761
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,440
And, you know, there's all sorts of stuff like that.

762
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,120
You know, I think and maybe that's a good point and maybe a good because I'm done with

763
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,080
my cigar and it was it was very delightful.

764
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,840
I did enjoy that.

765
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:10,360
But I think that by making abortion illegal or trying to or giving people the impression

766
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:17,260
that it is, will make people do more dangerous things.

767
00:50:17,260 --> 00:50:26,800
And by doing that, you are not not having your citizens best interests in mind when

768
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:33,200
you're passing laws, which is one of the functions of government, allegedly.

769
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,880
And it's kind of the same with drugs.

770
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,540
And are drugs legal or not legal?

771
00:50:38,540 --> 00:50:40,480
And if they're not, well, guess what?

772
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:47,320
Somebody is going to go huff glue or somebody is going to, I don't know, do something else

773
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:53,800
when they could be getting a legally illegal amount of drugs.

774
00:50:53,800 --> 00:51:00,480
The only kind of anecdote that I have is going to like a weed dispensary.

775
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:07,640
You know exactly the content of THC and CBD and everything in those drugs is right on

776
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,320
the package.

777
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:14,120
You're not taking a chance that somebody put rat poison in it or or whatever else you might

778
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:19,680
mix with it or cut with it to save a buck and make more money at the drug dealer's table.

779
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,880
You know, you know exactly what's in it.

780
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,240
It's been tested.

781
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:23,240
It's there.

782
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:27,360
You know, you know the amount, the potency.

783
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,940
The same with drinking beer.

784
00:51:28,940 --> 00:51:30,960
You can look right on the can or the package.

785
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,760
What's the ABV?

786
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,240
You know, you know, they're all legal things.

787
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:40,680
Like there's there's no harm in legalizing everything.

788
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:47,080
The leading cause of death of 18 to 48 year olds is drug overdose.

789
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,360
And it was during the pandemic and it is now.

790
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:54,800
And it's largely caused by fentanyl being cut into the drug supply and people are largely

791
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,160
unaware of it.

792
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,480
So if we really want to save American lives, we'd legalize drugs and people would go to

793
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,220
the pharmacist and pick up their heroin.

794
00:52:03,220 --> 00:52:05,360
So there wasn't any fucking fentanyl in it.

795
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,320
And I think to be clear, fentanyl is a legal drug.

796
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,320
It's legal.

797
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,320
Right.

798
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,200
And it's been and it's been.

799
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:23,600
Oh, lobbied for and the big powers that be big pharma companies have lobbied to keep

800
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,600
that legal.

801
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:30,600
Oxycontin and other narcotics that are terrible, terrible things when you could just smoke

802
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:36,400
weed or some other drug that's a lot safer, but illegal.

803
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,560
Right.

804
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:44,480
And if people want to use fentanyl, if they could pick it up legally, then they would

805
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,080
know the dose they would need and they wouldn't overdose.

806
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,640
Well, overdose less often.

807
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,160
They might still overdose.

808
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,960
But at least you could put it squarely on them and not on the drug companies that just

809
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,040
make this stuff, pump it out and want people to use it.

810
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,040
Right.

811
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,240
You know, I mean, look at all the drug ads on TV.

812
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:04,280
Is this drug right for you?

813
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,280
Go ask your doctor.

814
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:10,160
It's the only country in the world where drug companies market directly to citizens.

815
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,160
New Zealand.

816
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,040
Oh, New Zealand is New Zealand's the other one.

817
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,720
But they have a universal health care system.

818
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:18,400
So yeah, it's kind of other places.

819
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,640
The doctors are the experts.

820
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,240
And if the doctors think your drug is good, they're going to recommend it.

821
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:24,160
And if they think it's bad, they're not.

822
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:29,240
But here they get a cut for everybody who gets whatever drug it is.

823
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:30,900
Right.

824
00:53:30,900 --> 00:53:35,820
And like you say, this is a tertiary issue to the main event.

825
00:53:35,820 --> 00:53:42,360
But there is an argument to be made that Russia, or not Russia, China is initiating a quote

826
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:49,640
unquote third opium war because they're allowing mass production, legal production of fentanyl

827
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,120
and illegal sale to the United States.

828
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,400
So but that's a separate, you know, obviously not related to Roe vs. Wood.

829
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,400
Yes.

830
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,000
That's another podcast topic in the future.

831
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,000
Yeah, it might be another podcast topic in the future.

832
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,160
But the point is to say that the government, we're just trying to get to the bottom of

833
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,800
what the government should or shouldn't be doing for its citizens.

834
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:19,600
And I hope that we have shown that maybe government limiting things that could be safely done

835
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:24,080
if they were legal is dangerous to everybody.

836
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,380
Right.

837
00:54:25,380 --> 00:54:31,800
And as an update, last final cigar update, I am borderline roach clipping this and it

838
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,120
is still lovely.

839
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:39,120
Yeah, you know what, I smoked a lot more off of this one than the than the Cohiba.

840
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,880
And I could have kept going, but my fingers are getting a bit warm.

841
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,440
So that's where I'm at now.

842
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:47,960
Yeah.

843
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:52,440
So anyway, CEO Moon Trance.

844
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,440
I'm for them.

845
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,440
I like them a lot.

846
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:02,040
I recommend if you see them at a cigar shop and you've never had one, buy two.

847
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,320
Yep.

848
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,200
And if you don't see them at your cigar shop, call your congressman.

849
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,200
That's right.

850
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:14,920
Fight against the man or woman or them.

851
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:31,840
Until next time, have a good weekend.

