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Well, welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Nate.

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I'm Mike.

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We're here smoking some more cigars, we're both face to face, we can gaze into each other's

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eyes.

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That's right.

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And regale you with random bullshit.

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That is correct.

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What are we smoking today, Mike?

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This is Rocky Fatale The Edge 6-inch Torpedo.

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And yeah.

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I'm excited.

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I'm excited.

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We also have a Fumas version of the cigar we will smoke at a later date.

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Later date.

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To see whether the Fumas are as good as the real deal.

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Or at least comparable.

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Yes.

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What are the differences between Fuma and The Edge?

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Well, The Edge is a premium hand-rolled cigar and Fumas are created from the cuttings from

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these cigars wrapped in a leaf.

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So there you go.

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The tobacco won't be a long roll, it'll be a short roll.

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Okay.

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Perfect.

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Let's light it up.

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We gotta get Mike on board with my lighter.

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He's been having lighter issues.

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He's matching it.

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It's the temperature.

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The temperature.

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My lighter doesn't like it.

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Too chilly outside.

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Yes.

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My lighter doesn't like it when it's too chilly either.

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But normally I just hold it in my hand for a little bit.

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Also what I told my high school girlfriend.

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For those of you who watched our last episode, you saw my lighter and it's a zipple with

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a insert by the same company that Nate's lighter is made from.

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It's a jet line lighter.

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And I really like it.

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I had a zipple branded torch lighter.

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Didn't like it.

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It's trash.

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Jet line is good.

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Yeah, I like the jet line.

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I got the three butane jet engines as it were on my lighter and it's got the little mirror.

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Doesn't work a whole.

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The mirror is fine but you really got to awkwardly position everything to see.

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So the mirror is not the selling point of the lighter.

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Just the three butane torches.

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Mine's a double lighter.

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I don't like it.

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Summertime lasts me a couple weeks usually.

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So this episode, and actually you know what?

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Initially just two puffs to three puffs in.

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Not harsh at all.

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No really digging this cigar.

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Yes, that's a rocket but tell.

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We usually smoke good brands here even though we were going to do some bins occasionally.

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Yeah, it's a very good cigar.

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I've never had this cigar before.

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Me either.

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And it's interesting because I just wanted to mention a couple puffs in.

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Tastes fantastic.

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Not the same as the Whiskey Row from Diesel that we smoked.

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That one was very, very harsh to start but it really came into its own.

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Had the first inch or so.

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I would say yes.

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This one, I don't know.

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This one I'd be like yeah great.

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Right off the bat.

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Right from the get go.

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This is potentially going to be as good as the La Gloria Cubana.

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That one was really good.

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We might have to go back and revisit that one.

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We certainly can because I have some in the Hilidor here at the house.

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We also have the Series N to try out.

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Interestingly has an N on the wrapper.

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I don't know how they did that but they wrapped an N onto the wrapper.

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We'll have to take a deeper look into that in the future.

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This episode we're going to talk to you about.

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Cigar cutters.

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As you know, if you've been listening to us for any amount of time, Mike rocks the V-cut

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and I just do the guillotine.

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I do.

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But he's been really promoting the V-cut and despite us having three episodes together

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face to face, has never once offered to V-cut my cigars for me.

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He also never asked.

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For shame.

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We are drinking Lugavalin, eight year single malt.

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Cheers.

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Cheers.

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And also some Harp.

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As one does.

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As one does.

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So Mike said he's been doing a lot of research on cutters.

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I have.

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You've been eyeing some fancier V-cutters similar to what Mike rocks.

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Yes.

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I have a Calibri V-cut.

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That's my main cigar cutter.

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Rose gold, of course.

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But I've been thinking about getting a straight cut.

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You have.

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I have.

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And Zakhar makes a couple different cuts.

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They make a 70 ring gauge one which I was really interested in.

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And Calibri makes a standard cut and then they have various combinations of the two.

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Which I can understand why people would want that but I don't.

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I already have a V-cut.

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I just want a straight cut.

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And I think I've gotten down to, I think I'm just going to get the exact same cutter but

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a straight cut.

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So a Calibri S-cut.

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I like this Calibri a lot.

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It's served me well for many, many years.

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It's very fancy.

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It's got the kind of the spring release.

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Right?

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To open it up.

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My cutter, I don't know, stainless steel.

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It's a Cuban.

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I don't know much about it other than that.

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It's got the little like Dorpedo hole.

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So you shove the little Dorpedo nib in there and it'll cut it.

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I've always had really good cuts with it.

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It's a little bit bigger gauge than Mike's.

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We smoked, not on the show here yet, but we will, some Asylum 13s.

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And they were girthy bastards.

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They were.

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To put it mildly.

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And they were wonderful, by the way.

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They were.

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They were so good.

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Truly wonderful.

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But my cutter handled them as a max of what my cutter could handle.

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And Mike had to borrow my cutter to cut his.

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So I think there's that to consider when you're buying a cutter too, as well, that you need

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to make sure that it will handle the gauge of the cigars you're smoking.

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Absolutely.

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And I smoke a lot of different gauges all the time.

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Yes.

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And I even cut my Torpedo today with the V cut.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't.

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But he only did a one cut.

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He didn't do the cross cut like he normally does.

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I did not do the cross cut.

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Because it's a little narrower.

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Yep.

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So.

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So the one you're looking at, would that be handle a bigger gauge?

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Or would it be the same gauge that you have currently?

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I believe the one I was looking at will do a 68.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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There's the car cutters, which is why I was really interested, will do a 70 and cut a

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70 and a half.

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Okay.

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But I've been doing the online review thing, of course.

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Yes.

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As one must.

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As one must.

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And people don't seem to think that the steel they use on the Zikar cutters is up to snuff.

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And when I first started smoking cigars when I was 18, Calibri was the company.

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You wanted a Calibri lighter.

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You wanted a Calibri cutter.

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And maybe it's still true.

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I don't really know.

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But I like my Calibri cutter.

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I wouldn't recommend it to anybody.

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In rose gold.

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Or whatever your preferred metal.

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Mine's rose gold because rose gold was the cheapest when I bought it.

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You mean because it looks the best.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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High up social events.

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I also have a pink bowling backpack.

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Which we've talked about.

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Which we've talked about.

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But we didn't really, you know what?

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We never did get into Dan.

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Oh, did we not get into Dan?

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I thought we did.

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No, we briefly touched upon Dan.

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Dan and Natalie.

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But we talked more about the old man that accosted us on the street.

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Yeah, oh yeah.

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The nice ashes guy.

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The nice ashes guy.

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Which is where we came up with the name of this podcast.

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Because we're super original and can totally create things out of our minds on a whim.

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Absolutely.

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But let's talk about Dan for a little bit and we'll go back into cutters.

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Absolutely.

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So I went over to Nain's Saris for a weekend.

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Nice.

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What a weekend it was.

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It was a very interesting weekend.

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Mike and Sarah was working.

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Had to have been.

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Because she wasn't there.

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Yeah.

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It wasn't even with her at the time.

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I think we were.

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It might have been so long ago.

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It might have been pre-Sarah times.

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Maybe.

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We've been dating for several years now.

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I don't know.

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I've known Mike for longer than Sarah and Mike had been dating and he never proposed

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to me.

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That is true.

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That is true.

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But anyway I was visiting for a weekend and we decided to go bowling.

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We decided to try to go bowling.

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Try to go bowling.

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Yes.

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And so the bowling alley was probably a half hour walk.

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Something like that.

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So we lit ourselves a cigar and walked our happy asses over to the bowling alley.

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As one does.

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As one does in the middle of winter.

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But the problem is it was longer than half an hour but shorter than an hour.

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And so by the time we were done with our cigars we still had a ways to go.

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And I overestimated the amount of time it would take us to get to the bowling alley.

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So we lit us up a second cigar.

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We did.

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We were standing outside of the bowling alley in winter smoking a cigar.

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In Minnesota.

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In Minnesota.

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As one does.

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As one does.

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And this guy came out carrying a doggy bag or the styrofoam to go food thing.

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He came out, he almost walked completely by us.

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He did.

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And he was, give you a visual.

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Long hair, beard, viking's jacket, sorrel boots tucked in.

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Yeah.

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And he stops and starts chatting.

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Looked pretty normal for an average Minnesotan.

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Pretty much yes.

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If you wanted to visit Minnesota and be accosted by a native Minnesotan this is what they would

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look like.

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Yes.

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Yes it is.

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So Dan starts talking to us.

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He chats us up.

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He told us a Bill Hicks joke or something.

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Well this is the greatest part of the whole thing.

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He goes, hey do you guys want to hear a joke?

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And we're like, well we got so much stuff on our cigars we might as well.

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Would you say no to a joke in the bitter cold Minnesota winter?

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No.

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Like if you're going to entertain us.

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Entertain us man.

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And he goes, okay let me tell you a joke.

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It's not my joke.

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It's somebody else's joke.

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I watched him on Comedy Central or whatever.

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And he tells us his joke which I think he handpicked just for us because of Mike's pink

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backpack.

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Potentially so.

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Because it was a homosexual joke.

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It was a homosexual joke.

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Yeah.

268
00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,360
It was.

269
00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,360
Yeah.

270
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I don't remember how it goes.

271
00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,680
I don't particularly remember how it goes either.

272
00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:21,960
And he did not land the punch line.

273
00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:22,960
No.

274
00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,280
He incredibly assumed that we were homosexual life partners instead of heterosexual life

275
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partners.

276
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Apparently so.

277
00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,880
And then I know that he asked us our favorite colors.

278
00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,880
Yeah he did.

279
00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:34,880
And his was purple.

280
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His was purple.

281
00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,120
And then he didn't even have to ask Mike's.

282
00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,080
He didn't want to hear Mike's because he knew Mike's was pink based on his backpack.

283
00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:51,480
Because the backpack is a choice you make when you buy the backpack.

284
00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,560
You don't happen to stand into a pink backpack.

285
00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:55,560
Yeah.

286
00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:58,280
You don't buy the pink backpack because it's half the price of the blue backpack.

287
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It matches all your other bowling equipment.

288
00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,080
Because all your bowling equipment is Strike Force Royal Purple.

289
00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,080
Yeah.

290
00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,720
Culpepper Royal Purple.

291
00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,720
They are actually.

292
00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,880
I always have the Royal Series other than my bag.

293
00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:14,880
Yeah.

294
00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:21,560
But it was funny because he didn't even finish the joke and his girlfriend slash fiance slash

295
00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:23,160
wife came out.

296
00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,280
And he had previously we said hey man don't people need you inside.

297
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He goes ah nah.

298
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And then his girlfriend.

299
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We'll just say girlfriend.

300
00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:31,560
NASCAR Natalie.

301
00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:32,560
NASCAR Natalie.

302
00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:33,560
She comes out.

303
00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:39,440
She looks at us and goes oh my god I'm so sorry is he bothering you or whatever.

304
00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,800
And we're like well he hasn't finished the punch line of his joke yet.

305
00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:49,480
And she kind of did the eye roll like oh my god I know where this is going kind of thing.

306
00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,360
And she she like chastised him in front of us.

307
00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,360
You know what are you doing.

308
00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,480
We're all waiting for you.

309
00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,520
We are all waiting for you.

310
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We are all waiting for you.

311
00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,400
Yes.

312
00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,040
And this is important because later in the story you will get the twist.

313
00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,840
But not now but later.

314
00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,480
So she said we are all waiting for you.

315
00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,480
And we said well he's not bothering us.

316
00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,480
We would like him.

317
00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,320
I mean he wasn't obnoxious.

318
00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,320
So it was enjoyable.

319
00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,320
We were having a good time.

320
00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,000
We were having a good time.

321
00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,240
And we were feeling no pain.

322
00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,960
This was our first Natalie encounter.

323
00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,400
Yes.

324
00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:32,560
And so we were more inclined to humor Dan than we were to humor Natalie.

325
00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,520
Mostly because he had already told like you know three quarters of the joke.

326
00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,160
And we just wanted to know what it was.

327
00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,580
We knew it wasn't going to be like the most earth shattering epic thing that we've ever

328
00:14:41,580 --> 00:14:42,580
heard.

329
00:14:42,580 --> 00:14:47,760
But we still had enough cigar left that we were inclined to hear the end of the joke.

330
00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,760
And so we said oh no he's not bothering us.

331
00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,680
And he hasn't delivered the punch line yet.

332
00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,200
So you know give him some time.

333
00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,200
And she begrudgingly agreed.

334
00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,800
And then it was something on a homosexual thing.

335
00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,920
He was trying to make fun of us for being homosexuals.

336
00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,920
Yes.

337
00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,760
Which really wouldn't bother me at all.

338
00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,760
No.

339
00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,760
No.

340
00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:09,760
Me being a married man at the time.

341
00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,920
I'm guessing I was in a committed relationship.

342
00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,520
I don't really remember.

343
00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,040
We don't talk about that stuff because you know what Mike is an attractive man in his

344
00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,040
own right.

345
00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:23,520
And anyone would be lucky to consider him the object of your affection.

346
00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,520
And it doesn't matter.

347
00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:32,600
I don't care if you're gay, straight or pansexual or interdimensional sexual.

348
00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,600
It doesn't matter.

349
00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:39,240
You would be very lucky to consider him an object of your affection or vice versa.

350
00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,240
Well thank you Nate.

351
00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,240
Yes.

352
00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,240
We're all about love here.

353
00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,240
Yes.

354
00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,240
Peace and love.

355
00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,240
Nice ashes.

356
00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,240
No.

357
00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,240
Peace and love.

358
00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,240
And blessings to you and yours.

359
00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,240
Yes.

360
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,240
Anyway so he finishes his lame ass joke.

361
00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,240
Which is mostly making fun of homosexuals.

362
00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,520
Which was mostly making fun of homosexuals.

363
00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,440
Which kind of bonds off us because we had our gaydar up.

364
00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,440
Is that the saying?

365
00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,440
I don't know.

366
00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,360
We're comfortable in our sexuality.

367
00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,360
We don't care.

368
00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,360
Mike's got a pink backpack.

369
00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,160
We're in the Twin Cities.

370
00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,200
Nobody should be causing us because we're gay.

371
00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,200
Right.

372
00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,200
We're not gay.

373
00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,200
It's fine.

374
00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,200
But if we were, they shouldn't be causing us anyway.

375
00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,200
Right.

376
00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,200
Either way.

377
00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,200
It's not an issue.

378
00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,200
It should be an issue.

379
00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,200
It is not an issue.

380
00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,120
Dan must be from a small town where Mike and I grew up.

381
00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:32,800
Dan was definitely of illish descent.

382
00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,800
And NASCAR Natalie.

383
00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:34,800
Well NASCAR Natalie.

384
00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,800
Had a big NASCAR shirt on.

385
00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,520
Oh, other thing.

386
00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,980
Because here's the twist of the whole plot.

387
00:16:41,980 --> 00:16:49,800
He was running the leftover food nachos, which will be soggy the next day, out of the car.

388
00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,000
And she stomped back in.

389
00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,000
She stomped.

390
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,000
She was angry.

391
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,000
She literally stomped back in.

392
00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,320
Because she was mad that Dan made friends.

393
00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,200
Whether they were homosexual or heterosexual.

394
00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,280
She didn't care.

395
00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,280
She did not care.

396
00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,200
That was the whole point of the whole interaction.

397
00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,360
She didn't care if they were gay or not gay.

398
00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:11,320
She was mad that Dan was outside not being with her.

399
00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,320
Yes.

400
00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,920
She was mad that Dan was talking to anybody other than her.

401
00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,960
And we invented this whole backstory for Natalie and we'll get into that in a second.

402
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,360
But we go back in.

403
00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:25,680
And Mike was partaking in a no alcohol challenge, which is a terrible idea.

404
00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:31,440
If you ever get the opportunity to participate in a no alcohol challenge, you just pass.

405
00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:32,440
Yeah.

406
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,840
And I was drinking NA beer.

407
00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,960
So I was not imbibing.

408
00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,760
I think it was the Heineken 00.

409
00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,800
I was very much imbibing.

410
00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:39,800
It was the Heineken 00.

411
00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,280
That's what Mike was drinking.

412
00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,280
And I tried some.

413
00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,680
It tasted just like beer, except they didn't give you the good beer feeling.

414
00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,000
You know, it was fine.

415
00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,480
If you want to drink something that tastes like beer, that's not Odoul's.

416
00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,680
You know, hallelujah.

417
00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,560
I have a login needed as IHOPs too.

418
00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,560
It's very good actually.

419
00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,560
Yeah.

420
00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,560
It doesn't really taste like beer though.

421
00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:02,560
Okay.

422
00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,560
Yeah.

423
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,160
So I think it's a good alternative to the Odoul's.

424
00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,160
Let's just say that.

425
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,440
Like if you want to drink 00 beer, you can do it.

426
00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,040
I don't know why.

427
00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,960
My brother drinks it.

428
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,160
He's a big fan of the non-alcoholic beer.

429
00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,160
Yeah.

430
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,160
I mean, that's fine.

431
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,200
I'm just saying if you want to do whatever you want to do.

432
00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,200
Absolutely.

433
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,400
If you're going to drink beer, just drink beer.

434
00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,000
You know, if you want to quit beer, just quit beer.

435
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,920
You know, it's kind of like the people that try and quit smoking by going to vape.

436
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,680
I've heard, I mean like on a video on the internet.

437
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:40,520
So whether it's true that they made whiskey that has no alcohol in it.

438
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,520
That's not whiskey.

439
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,080
What's the point of drinking whiskey without alcohol?

440
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,080
I don't like whiskey.

441
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,080
I mean, I do like whiskey.

442
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,240
I love whiskey.

443
00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,640
The majority of the reason why I'm drinking whiskey is because it makes my feel-feels

444
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,640
go off.

445
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:54,640
Yeah.

446
00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,480
It's not because I want to drink the Lugavallan straight out of a glass.

447
00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,240
It's the same, you know what?

448
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,080
The Impossible Burger.

449
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,880
If you want to eat a cheeseburger, eat a fucking cheeseburger.

450
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,640
You don't eat a vegetarian, want to try to be the cheeseburger.

451
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,640
You know what?

452
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,320
We have the black bean burgers from Costco.

453
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,560
They're not trying to be a burger.

454
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,560
It's like black beans pressed into a thing.

455
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,560
Delicious.

456
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:27,120
I've had very delicious black bean burgers for my brother who lives in the U.S.

457
00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:29,400
You're sir.

458
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,400
And they were fantastic.

459
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:36,640
And I generally, generally, generally dislike beans of any kind except green beans because

460
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:42,800
beans in their natural form just kind of taste like little sandbags, like just little sand.

461
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,800
It's not the taste.

462
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,800
It's the texture.

463
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:45,800
You know what I mean?

464
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,800
It's the texture for me.

465
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,800
Sure.

466
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,800
I like beans.

467
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,560
And mushrooms, I don't like mushrooms.

468
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,560
I love mushrooms.

469
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:58,400
If they're chopped and diced finely, not a problem, but I'm not eating like a fungus.

470
00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,400
You know, like spongy.

471
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,400
I don't want to taste the texture.

472
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,400
I don't want to feel the texture in my mouth.

473
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,400
It's a texture thing.

474
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,400
It's not really a taste thing.

475
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:04,400
I cook lots of things with cream of mushroom.

476
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,400
It's great.

477
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,400
Phenomenal.

478
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,400
Love it.

479
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:22,320
If you're just going to serve me up a mushroom, I'm like, no, I don't like the texture of

480
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,320
that.

481
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,880
And that's not that uncommon from what I've heard in my independent non-peer-reviewed

482
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:29,880
studies.

483
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,520
You know, but it's like, it's a texture thing.

484
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,280
And the bean burger, the bean burger can be great.

485
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,960
My brother made us some black bean burgers on the grill outside of his yurt.

486
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,960
Phenomenal.

487
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,540
They were great.

488
00:20:45,540 --> 00:20:47,320
But there's a lot of things like chili.

489
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,120
Do you have to have 18 different types of beans in your chili?

490
00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,320
Or can you make do with just meat?

491
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,320
You know, I mean.

492
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,320
I like bean chili.

493
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,320
I'm not going to lie.

494
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,320
You would.

495
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,320
I would.

496
00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,320
Cigar update.

497
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:04,960
I am officially an inch and a half ahead of Nate.

498
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,960
As he always is.

499
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,960
As I always am.

500
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:07,960
All right.

501
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,120
So Mike needs to talk more and I'll smoke some more.

502
00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:13,240
Cigar is extremely good.

503
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,240
Oh, it's so good.

504
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,080
I'm not impressed because I know Rocket Patel is a reputable company and I expected it to

505
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,080
be good.

506
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,880
Yeah, but you can still be impressed.

507
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:24,880
Right.

508
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,480
I mean, you're not taking off guard.

509
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,600
It's worth the price of admission.

510
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,600
You're not taking off guard.

511
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,800
No, I expect a certain level of.

512
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,800
You expected this.

513
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:32,800
Yeah.

514
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,680
And it's delivering on every single count.

515
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,680
Absolutely.

516
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,680
It's so good.

517
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,640
Oh, you'd be disappointed if it wasn't this good.

518
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,000
Here's the question.

519
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:48,520
Is it better than the other one we smoked?

520
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,800
The Asylum or the Ligoi Kavana?

521
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,800
Ligoi Kavana.

522
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,800
It's on par.

523
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,800
It's on par.

524
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,800
I would say it's on par.

525
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:55,800
We'd have to do.

526
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,560
We'd have to smoke both of these kind of like back to back.

527
00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,560
Absolutely.

528
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:00,560
To really determine a winner.

529
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,560
Yes.

530
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,560
And I like torpedoes.

531
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,320
I do like torpedoes.

532
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,920
That definitely skews my perception.

533
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,200
I don't normally buy torpedoes.

534
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,200
I do.

535
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,800
I like box press torpedoes and I buy a lot of.

536
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,240
I probably buy more Robustos and Rothschilds.

537
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,320
But I like my torpedoes as well.

538
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,240
I don't normally buy torpedoes.

539
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,040
So there's probably one of the handful of torpedoes that I've ever smoked.

540
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,040
Oh really?

541
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,040
Yeah, I like torpedoes.

542
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,080
I don't know what it is.

543
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,280
But there's something magical about it.

544
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,280
It's a good smoke.

545
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,280
Right.

546
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,280
Yeah, exactly.

547
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,280
Who gives a shit?

548
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,640
It's kind of like the Kentucky Shrew.

549
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,640
I like them.

550
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,640
So.

551
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,640
Exactly.

552
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,160
I don't have to think of a whole lot about it.

553
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,560
But anyway, back to Dan.

554
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,400
So Dan tells us this homophobic joke and then goes back inside.

555
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,400
Yes.

556
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,400
And we finish our cigar.

557
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,080
And we go inside and try and get a lane.

558
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,080
Yes.

559
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,080
This is the whole thing.

560
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,080
We put our names on a waiting list.

561
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,640
Mike, he's not drinking.

562
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,800
So he gets the Heiny Zero Zero.

563
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,840
And I get something that's not zero zero.

564
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,840
He gets some beer.

565
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,840
And we're sitting there on the lane.

566
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,440
And we happen to look over and who do you think we see?

567
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,280
If you guessed Dan and Natalie, you're correct.

568
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,320
And it was only Dan and Natalie on the lane.

569
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,320
There was nobody waiting for them.

570
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,800
On a pair of lanes.

571
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,120
They had two bowling lanes.

572
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:37,280
Natalie said we are all waiting for you.

573
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,080
But the we was only her.

574
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,520
And they had a pair of lanes and a full bowling alley, which is a no no.

575
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,320
It's a no no according to Mike by the book Bowling.

576
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,800
Well, Mike by the book Bowling says that unless you're a league bowler at that house, you

577
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,800
don't get pairs.

578
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,800
You get single lanes.

579
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:59,400
And even Nate by the not the book bowler, who just wants people to have fun bowling,

580
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,480
would say if you're two people and you have two lanes, that's one lane too many.

581
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,480
Absolutely.

582
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,600
I mean, seriously, think about it.

583
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,240
You're bowling against each other.

584
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,360
Just bowling on one lane.

585
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:14,800
You can't possibly play more than one game together.

586
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,800
I mean, you can.

587
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,480
But it's a fucking full house.

588
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,000
If we're sitting there, we're waiting for a lane.

589
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,080
We waited 45 minutes.

590
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,600
We never actually bowled that night because of Natalie and Dan.

591
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,560
Well, not particularly Natalie and Dan.

592
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,880
Not Dan, but for sure Natalie.

593
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,120
Well, you know, NASCAR, NASCAR Natalie.

594
00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:36,920
So you have Dale Earnhardt shirt on, didn't she?

595
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,920
She had something on.

596
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:44,280
So we decided that she forced Dan to watch NASCAR with her at home.

597
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,960
And she kind of had him pussy whipped.

598
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,440
She definitely had a pussy whipped.

599
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,700
Had him something whipped.

600
00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:51,000
She definitely had a pussy whipped.

601
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,160
Just the way she was talking to him, not OK.

602
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,400
She was being nasty.

603
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,400
And you know what?

604
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,040
This is not a sexual or gender thing.

605
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,320
This is a mutual respect for human beings thing.

606
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,320
OK.

607
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,520
Because we don't care who your partner is.

608
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,880
I mean, we care.

609
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,880
We love your partner.

610
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,880
Your partner is great.

611
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:23,920
But the thing is, you need to also respect your partner and talk them up.

612
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,000
There's so much of this talking down to your partner.

613
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,440
They're terrible and things like that.

614
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,960
You know, you go to your girl groups, your boy groups.

615
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,520
It's really not gender specific.

616
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,600
But I swear to you that there are men groups that they go and they talk shit about their

617
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,600
wives and there are female groups where they go and they talk shit about their husbands.

618
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,680
And I don't think that that's OK.

619
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,680
I know that they exist.

620
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,680
I've never been a part of one.

621
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,680
I've not been a part of one either.

622
00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:01,280
But I think like, you know, in some situations, in some situations, that's OK.

623
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,520
Because if you're in an abusive relationship and that's the only outlet you have, that's

624
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,520
one thing.

625
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,320
But if you're in a situation of relationship where, you know, generally you bring your

626
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,400
concerns to your partner and they will hear you, they will listen to you, and then they

627
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,080
will try to work on that, that's not that's not an OK thing to go back and say, well,

628
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,520
I talked to him two minutes ago and he hasn't made any changes.

629
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,560
You know, you're supposed to be in your partner's corner.

630
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,720
Right.

631
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,840
Even if you know that they're wrong sometimes.

632
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,360
We've talked at length about this outside of the podcast.

633
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:37,360
Yeah.

634
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:43,920
A lot of people never develop a normal adult relationship with their partner or with their

635
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,720
parents or their siblings.

636
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,720
Yeah.

637
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,360
And it's sad.

638
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,040
Yeah, it does.

639
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,040
It's worrisome.

640
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,440
And people don't put in the work to do it.

641
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,440
This is this is interesting.

642
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:02,600
And I'll bring this up here because either the people I'm talking about aren't listening

643
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:10,120
or they need the wake up call or I'm a raise misogynistic asshole who doesn't care.

644
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:11,120
Well that's true.

645
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:12,120
You can decide.

646
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:13,120
100 percent.

647
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:14,120
You can decide.

648
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:15,120
You're a misogynist.

649
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:16,120
Yes.

650
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:17,400
I like massages.

651
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,400
You're not wrong.

652
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:27,040
A massage enthusiast.

653
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:34,520
So we went my wife and I went down to her family for New Year's in St. Louis, Missouri.

654
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,520
Missouri.

655
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:42,280
And there's some very fascinating history in Missouri, especially around the Civil War.

656
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,600
Very, very interesting.

657
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,440
I recommend you check that out if you're interested in history at all.

658
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,440
Just look it up.

659
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,440
It's very interesting.

660
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,400
I had no idea until we went down the first time and checked out some of the museums and

661
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,400
things.

662
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,400
I had no idea.

663
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:03,600
It's very, very vivid and much more than you would think.

664
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,640
Sure.

665
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:14,160
Because it's so far west, not nowadays, but in the Civil War days, it's very, very west

666
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,160
for America.

667
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:30,160
But we went down and so one of the cousins' moms is on a very, very good relationship

668
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,040
with their daughter, the cousin.

669
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,040
Very good.

670
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,040
They do all sorts of things together.

671
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,440
They go out every weekend.

672
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,640
They drink and partake and have fun and enjoy themselves.

673
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,680
And they try and abandon the father, the uncle.

674
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,280
He's a strange character, to be sure.

675
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,720
Very strange character.

676
00:28:52,720 --> 00:29:00,920
He does a lot of jokes and it's one of those people that if you don't joke back, then it

677
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,280
feels very lopsided.

678
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:08,040
But as soon as you start understanding that he just jokes to try and give you love, even

679
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,800
though the jokes are stupid and terrible or whatever.

680
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,840
As soon as you joke back, it's like, oh my God, it's smooth sailing.

681
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,640
We had a cousin night out this past summer and one of the cousins was like, oh yeah,

682
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,960
that guy, you just joke back with him and it's all fine.

683
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,480
And so I tried it because I'm not one to shy away from advice.

684
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,480
Sure.

685
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,640
It was the most amazing thing ever.

686
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,640
It was so good.

687
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,520
He came over to our house and he was like, oh yeah, all these possum hands you have hanging.

688
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,720
Does Sarah ever hit you with those?

689
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,440
That's a fucking weird thing to say.

690
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,320
That's a weird fucking joke to make.

691
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,000
This is before I had the advice.

692
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,080
But then after I had the advice, I just joke back with him and it's all good.

693
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,080
It's all fine.

694
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:59,600
On my other best bud, I said to Mike, we'd always shout slurs to each other out the parking

695
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,440
window because we had apartments next to each other.

696
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,800
That's how we got to know each other.

697
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,960
I was playing Galaxy Quest.

698
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,600
He heard the engine hum through the wall.

699
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,480
He knocks on my door and he goes, are you watching Galaxy Quest?

700
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,760
And I said, how did you know?

701
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,640
He goes, well, the engine hum wasn't Star Wars or Star Trek.

702
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,360
So this is a guy you need to know.

703
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,880
If he can tell the engine hum through the wall.

704
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,000
That's an interesting character for sure.

705
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,000
For sure.

706
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,480
I would come back from work and he'd be like, it's a homo.

707
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,480
He just shout out the window.

708
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,840
And then whenever I saw him come back, I'd shout something similar out the window to

709
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:31,840
him.

710
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,840
But it was a mark of love.

711
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:38,240
It wasn't a mark of we're hazing each other or getting each other's nerves kind of thing.

712
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,160
It was just, you know.

713
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,800
Hazing is a ritual.

714
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,160
Hazing gets a bad rap in our modern society.

715
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,240
And I will defend hazing.

716
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,080
To an extent.

717
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,680
People should be hazed.

718
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,240
They should be hazed.

719
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:58,280
But obviously they take these crazy instances where these kids usually just take it way

720
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,400
too far and like hurt other people.

721
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,400
That's what I mean.

722
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,400
To an extent.

723
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,400
You don't physically hurt anybody.

724
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,880
But you should be hazed.

725
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,920
I was hazed when I came into the Union Brotherhood.

726
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,240
It's a rite of passage.

727
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,240
It's a rite of passage.

728
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,240
Right?

729
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,960
Like you earn your spot and get your respect.

730
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,160
Or get your really cool nickname for the rest of your life.

731
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:28,640
Well I mean, like for a job like mine, when you're an apprentice, you're treated like

732
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,640
shit.

733
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,640
That's the point.

734
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,880
Well as an intern you're treated like shit anyway.

735
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Right.

736
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,480
Well intern, apprentice, it's similar.

737
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,480
It's similar.

738
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,480
Very similar.

739
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:43,600
And I did a five year long apprenticeship and the first three years you're treated bad.

740
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,600
Like real bad.

741
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,600
They want you to quit.

742
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,520
You mean real bad isn't like not good?

743
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,520
Yeah.

744
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Like a hundred people turn into twenty people.

745
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,200
That's how bad it is.

746
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,080
They want to make it difficult.

747
00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Because at the end of that path, now you're making 120 grand a year.

748
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600
And you have respect from your coworkers.

749
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,360
Because you made it through the gauntlet.

750
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,360
And that's the whole point of the ritual.

751
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,360
Now you're part of the brotherhood.

752
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,360
You're a good fellow.

753
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,360
Brotherhood or sisterhood or whoever.

754
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,360
You're a good fellow now.

755
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,360
Yeah.

756
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,360
Now you're a good fellow.

757
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,360
And women are included.

758
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,360
I say brotherhood.

759
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,360
Yeah.

760
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,560
It's personhood or sisterhood or brotherhood or whatever you want to call it.

761
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:31,080
The only non-discriminatory name for a group of people, non-gender related, has been banned

762
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,760
by my HR company.

763
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:40,000
But the true non-gender discriminatory term for a group of people is, hey you fuckers.

764
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,000
Right.

765
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,120
I mean we called it the brotherhood back in the day.

766
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,160
Now it's the fuckerhood.

767
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,120
Well, sisterhood too.

768
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,560
I had many female apprentices.

769
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:58,960
And I tried to haze them and teach them how to do their fucking job.

770
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:06,920
Right, I mean part of hazing is teaching people, like myself, how to control their emotions.

771
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,640
Because stress when you're...

772
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,840
Stress always comes up.

773
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,840
Stress always comes up and you have to control your stress.

774
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,640
Have you ever been in a job where you haven't had stress?

775
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,640
No.

776
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,640
No.

777
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,640
Exactly.

778
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,640
That's the point.

779
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,640
And sometimes the stress is extreme.

780
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,680
And you have to be able to deal with that in a positive way.

781
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,520
And if you're going to flake out, then you need to go.

782
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,960
If you're truly...

783
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:34,920
If you're using hazing as a positive.

784
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,080
And I worked for the Boy Scouts of America for several years.

785
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:44,200
And I've been involved in the Boy Scouts since I was six.

786
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,080
They're not affiliated with this.

787
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,880
They can't come and sue me now.

788
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,080
You listen you fuckers.

789
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,600
You can't come sue me.

790
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:57,640
But they have an anti-hazing policy for good measure.

791
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,480
They've got a lot of policies for good measure.

792
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,240
They've got a lot of policies to separate them from the Catholic Church and child abuse

793
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,240
for good measure.

794
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,000
They've got a lot of policies that I don't agree with and things like that.

795
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,000
We can get into that later.

796
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000
That's not the point.

797
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:20,160
The point is that if you're hazing somebody, it shouldn't be solely based on the fact that

798
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,320
they're different or they're newer than you and you should then therefore haze them.

799
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:30,480
The point is the hazing is sort of an initiation into that group.

800
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,840
The hazing is an initiation into this is some of the stuff you might encounter.

801
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,000
We're doing it kind of in a safe area here.

802
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,360
You're brand new.

803
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:46,320
We're hazing you and hazing can be very, very negative depending on who you are and what

804
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,960
your experience with it is.

805
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,560
But if it's done right, if it's done by people who care about you and want to make sure that

806
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:01,320
you are making the right choice for yourself, hazing can be very, very important.

807
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:07,760
It happens in all classes, in all races, in all groups to some extent.

808
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,120
To some extent it does because they have certain parameters they want you to follow to make

809
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,760
sure that you're part of their people.

810
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:28,000
I was hazed to my benefit and I always made sure that my apprentices were hazed as well.

811
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,800
It's to toughen you up mentally.

812
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:39,120
I was doing industrial electrical, very stressful, especially when it's hot work, which now I

813
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,200
almost exclusively do hot work.

814
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,680
I don't know if you've ever talked about that.

815
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,680
You look like you do.

816
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,680
I know, right?

817
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:51,960
But now with the job I have, I exclusively do hot work.

818
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,360
Everything's hot and it's in public view a lot of times.

819
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,840
So Mike is an electrician.

820
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,840
Hot work means electricity is connected at the time he's doing the work.

821
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,440
You are doing the work with live electricity.

822
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,280
You're not shutting off breakers to be safe.

823
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,280
You're doing it hot.

824
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,280
You're doing it hot.

825
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,800
You're doing it live.

826
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,240
Almost all the work I do is live now.

827
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:21,000
And that hazing process prepares you mentally for the stress of doing hot work.

828
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,840
Hot work is very stressful.

829
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Obviously, you kill yourself.

830
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,080
Kill yourself and other people.

831
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,800
He's working with higher than 120.

832
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,880
I work with 480 pretty regularly.

833
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,840
A lot of it.

834
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,200
It's not just child's play.

835
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,880
Mike's coached me, but before Mike coached me in electricity, I've been zapped by 120.

836
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:46,880
Not fun.

837
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:47,880
No, it's not fun at all.

838
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:48,880
Not a fun time.

839
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,880
It's bad time.

840
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,880
It's not a good time.

841
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,880
It's bad time.

842
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,560
And then this was before I kind of knew Mike as a friend.

843
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:02,360
It was an apartment and I shouldn't have even been doing it because you should just submit

844
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,520
the thing to the apartment manager and they should come bring the guy in.

845
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,600
But I did it and it zapped me.

846
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,840
And it wasn't fun.

847
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,600
It didn't end my day.

848
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,360
But it was like, I definitely don't want to touch that again.

849
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,360
Absolutely.

850
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,360
You know what I mean?

851
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,360
Absolutely.

852
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,400
I didn't feel my life was in danger, but I just felt like I probably shouldn't touch

853
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,400
that again.

854
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,400
Right.

855
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,400
It was enough.

856
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:30,360
I work a lot with 240, 480, and then the 240, 120.

857
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,360
But we do it live all the time.

858
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,080
I have to do it sometimes.

859
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,080
Yeah.

860
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,960
I'm doing emergency work, which is a lot of what I do.

861
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,560
Mostly what I do is emergency work.

862
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,920
I go from one emergency to the next emergency constantly.

863
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,920
That's why I'm there.

864
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,480
If it wasn't an emergency, it wouldn't be there.

865
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:56,600
But that sort of mental toughness that you get from that hazing ritual, I guess you're

866
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,600
prepared.

867
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,600
Yeah.

868
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:06,840
But fun, I think to some extent, you can sanitize and bleach a lot of things.

869
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:13,400
We just took a bathroom break.

870
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,040
Mike's range off the patio is a little bit greater than mine.

871
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,280
I didn't want to be emasculated by that.

872
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,160
Maybe he was storing up more than I was.

873
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,160
What do you think?

874
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,360
I think I'm more used to it, man.

875
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,960
I live here.

876
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,200
You're used to the cold.

877
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,680
I was in the pool.

878
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,680
Exactly.

879
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,240
As the Urska Sands are its thing.

880
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:40,080
Now we have our third co-host here.

881
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,080
She's back.

882
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,080
She is back.

883
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,240
She has no deer legs or turkey carcasses.

884
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,240
No, she does not.

885
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:46,240
Yet.

886
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:47,240
No, she does not.

887
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:50,360
The night is young, so she might yet.

888
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,000
Yes, maybe she will.

889
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:59,560
So yeah, we went back and we saw Dan, and it was just Dan and his Natalie, NASCAR and

890
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,560
Natalie.

891
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,560
Yeah, NASCAR and Natalie.

892
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,560
They had two lanes.

893
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,560
There was nobody waiting for anybody.

894
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:04,560
That was the whole point.

895
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,200
No, that was the whole point.

896
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,720
They were bowling on two lanes with two people, which in a full house is a no-no.

897
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:15,760
I think this lanes, they had what, 36 lanes total?

898
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,760
Sure.

899
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,760
They were a big house.

900
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,760
It was big.

901
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,760
It was big.

902
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,160
It wasn't a small, like, mom-and-pop bowling alley with five lanes or something.

903
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:29,120
They had enough lanes where if Dan and Natalie would have stopped with their NASCAR bullshit.

904
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,120
Six lanes.

905
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,120
Here we go.

906
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,120
We're going to get into it.

907
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:40,080
It's always a derivation of two, usually a derivation of four, unless it's six.

908
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,480
And to me, that sounds like, there's a derivation of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

909
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,680
There's a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

910
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,680
But you know what?

911
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,800
Mike takes his bowling seriously, and Mike has worked at it, so he can.

912
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:57,600
And I have not worked on my bowling, even though I have a custom ball and some dedicated

913
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,440
bowling shoes.

914
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,380
But I have not worked at it like Mike has.

915
00:40:01,380 --> 00:40:07,400
So he's got the right to poo-poo any of my ideas on bowling, because I don't really have

916
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,840
many ideas on bowling.

917
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,880
And he knows what's up with bowling.

918
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,800
And I still always love our initiation story.

919
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,800
It was so, it's so fun.

920
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,800
It is fun.

921
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,600
We were talking about Ayn Rand.

922
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,400
We were talking about Ayn Rand.

923
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,240
And this might be a good time to talk back about it.

924
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:35,920
When we first met, Mike and myself, I was huge, huge, huge into Ayn Rand.

925
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,920
And I had gotten huge into Ayn Rand.

926
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:44,040
Kind of in the middle of college, I discovered her writings.

927
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,120
And Atlas Shrugged is a behemoth of a book.

928
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,480
I shit you not.

929
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,760
If you're going to read a behemoth of a book.

930
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,920
But when I went to, I had read it previously.

931
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,920
And then I went to London in 2007.

932
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:01,580
And I read it on the plane and back.

933
00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:02,580
So I read it again.

934
00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:05,480
And it's a massive book, just massive.

935
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,360
And why I brought that in my backpack, I have no fucking idea.

936
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,320
But I read it again.

937
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,840
And I really enjoyed it.

938
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,840
And I enjoy the book.

939
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,320
And I enjoy the general thing.

940
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,000
But Ayn Rand is very, very black and white.

941
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:29,280
And initially, that's why I started deviating from Ayn Rand's philosophy.

942
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,000
And the cool, I guess the cool thing about Ayn Rand's philosophy is she passed it on

943
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:40,360
to somebody who I think was a much more of a lesser scholar in it than her.

944
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,360
Much more of a lesser.

945
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,360
Yes.

946
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,360
And that's why Ayn Rand taught me to speak.

947
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,360
Yes.

948
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,360
I'm just kidding.

949
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,360
And that is why we are not professionals.

950
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,760
But it was a lesser.

951
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:57,360
So she passed her life's work on to a lesser.

952
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:05,000
And then he had all of these audio snippets of explaining modern things.

953
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,960
So she was huge in the 50s, I think.

954
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,960
Yeah.

955
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,960
Well, she was very focused on anti-communism.

956
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,960
And then she died in the 80s or 90s.

957
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,960
Yeah.

958
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,960
She was huge on anti-communism.

959
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,760
And then she passed it along to this man.

960
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,760
I can't remember his name.

961
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,760
It's not important.

962
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,760
It's not important.

963
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,520
I swear to you it's not important what this man's name was.

964
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,960
But she passed it on to him.

965
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:33,240
And then he went and did all of these little audio things on questions like, well, how

966
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:38,040
does objectivism fit with transsexuals?

967
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,640
And he would do a whole audio thing on how objectivism fit with that.

968
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,720
Because objectivism is very, very black and white.

969
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:50,360
It was if you know what's right, what's right is good.

970
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:57,280
And if you're anything less than what's fully, completely 100% right, you're bad.

971
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,040
And that's what it was.

972
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:06,440
And so a lot of his things were very black and white look at everything.

973
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:13,600
And this was from people that never experienced a lot of this stuff.

974
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:23,280
If you're transgender and you want to transition, Ayn Rand never wanted to transition.

975
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,360
Her successor never wanted to transition.

976
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,200
Ayn Rand probably never thought about that subject ever, not even once.

977
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,200
No.

978
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,200
It's something that we-

979
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,360
It's a very modern, recent thing.

980
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,760
We talk about it a lot now.

981
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,400
And maybe it should have been more talked about in the past.

982
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:49,120
I'll come out now and say people who transition have a lot of intestinal fortitude.

983
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,120
Yeah.

984
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,840
Especially 20 years ago.

985
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:58,680
Well, and for lack of a better phrase, and not to assume gender or anything, but that's

986
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,640
a lot of big dick energy.

987
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,640
Big dick energy for sure, bro.

988
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,640
For sure.

989
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,040
It doesn't matter what gender you are, but big dick energy.

990
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,040
Yeah.

991
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,080
Because I'm here, I am me, and I am proud of it.

992
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:15,360
If you meet a transgendered woman, that's probably a person that has a lot of strength

993
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,880
mentally and fortitude and moral uprightness.

994
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,880
Yes.

995
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,840
As far as their situation is concerned.

996
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,840
Yes.

997
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:32,040
Now, I know that there's a lot of teenagers who are getting in the transgender trender

998
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,040
phase.

999
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,040
I've heard this term.

1000
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,040
I am not sure.

1001
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,480
I am not a teenager, but I've heard the-

1002
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,480
You're not.

1003
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,480
You're not a teenager.

1004
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,480
You're a transgender.

1005
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,480
I am.

1006
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,480
I know.

1007
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:48,520
My skin is smooth, and my heart is young.

1008
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,560
Yes, and your semen is varro.

1009
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,560
Well, obviously.

1010
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,520
As one must.

1011
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,360
Yeah.

1012
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:05,440
Like any other teenager, I'm worried about cutting the hedgerow to the driveway leading

1013
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,200
up to the property and making sure that all the fucking-

1014
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,200
And plowing in the winter.

1015
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,600
Plowing in the winter and making sure all the crab apples are trimmed up and nice and

1016
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,000
all the cedars have their little baskets.

1017
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,240
Every teenager's world.

1018
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:19,240
Every teenager's world.

1019
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:20,240
Yeah, yeah.

1020
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,960
I'm worried about the willow tree, and I have to cut off one of the branches and put some

1021
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,960
spice on it.

1022
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,480
Also, which cigar are we smoking?

1023
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,480
Yeah, yeah.

1024
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:35,640
As most teenagers, naughty teenagers, like Mike and myself, often think.

1025
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:42,840
But yeah, any transgender person who happens to be listening, I have a lot of respect for

1026
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:51,360
the trans community because it does take a lot of mental fortitude to admit to yourself

1027
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,680
and to present to the world your belief.

1028
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,080
And it's much more difficult than anything that I've ever had to do.

1029
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,080
And me as well.

1030
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:06,080
I'm a white guy that has sex with women.

1031
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,080
It's not very difficult.

1032
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,080
Sometimes.

1033
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,080
He sometimes does.

1034
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,080
All the time.

1035
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,080
100% of the time.

1036
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,080
It's pretty simple.

1037
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,080
All the time he does.

1038
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,080
Yeah, it's pretty simple.

1039
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:19,720
I mean, now that I'm older, it's like I'm with one woman, so-

1040
00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:20,720
Yeah, I got to tell him.

1041
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:21,720
It's pretty simple.

1042
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:22,720
I have to tell him.

1043
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:28,520
I got to tell him, like, dude, these posters of Ryan Reynolds in your bedroom, you got

1044
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,520
to take them down.

1045
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,520
Right, yeah.

1046
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,520
I appreciate that.

1047
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:41,920
Even though I think, like, you know, in my life, growing up in a Lutheran household,

1048
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,520
it was homosexuals are the devil.

1049
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,520
Really?

1050
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,520
Even Lutheran?

1051
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,520
Oh, yeah.

1052
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,520
They're Catholic light.

1053
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,520
I was raised Catholic.

1054
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,520
Catholic light.

1055
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:56,720
I don't remember ever hearing homosexuals are the devil, but we were cafeteria Catholic,

1056
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:57,720
of course.

1057
00:46:57,720 --> 00:46:59,720
Yeah, as most people are.

1058
00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:00,720
Right.

1059
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:05,120
You know, it was homosexuals are the devil.

1060
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:12,240
My pastor, who everybody loved, was caught banging the church secretary, and he had to

1061
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:15,920
get a divorce, and his daughter was in my grade in school.

1062
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:16,920
Interesting.

1063
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:23,280
And it was very, very awkward, the whole situation.

1064
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,520
And I think, I mean, I don't know, because I was so young, like, I don't know how she

1065
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,160
handled it, you know, as the daughter, and I don't know how everybody else handled it,

1066
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:37,760
because that was middle school, and then high school, I moved somewhere else, and it was

1067
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,760
different.

1068
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,760
Right.

1069
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,800
See, we had a lot of third-way priests here, which, for the listeners who do not know about

1070
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:53,040
the Catholic faith, there is a not, it's not acknowledged, but there is a quote-unquote

1071
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:58,520
movement of third-way Catholic priests, and these priests have girlfriends, and they're

1072
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,280
typically nuns.

1073
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:07,440
And they get shunned out into the hinterlands, which is where we are here.

1074
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,560
And that actually, they're loved here.

1075
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:21,440
The third-way priests are truly appreciated out here, because, yeah, we don't accept child

1076
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,000
rape, and we don't accept priests doing naughty things.

1077
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,880
And people who are Catholic here aren't really devoted to...

1078
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,880
Clare boys.

1079
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,880
Yeah, they're not devoted to, like, the Catholic dogma.

1080
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,600
It's more of a social club.

1081
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,160
And yeah, the priest should be happy.

1082
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,840
A priest is a member of the community, and we want the priest to be happy.

1083
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:51,040
And if the priest has a girlfriend that he's devoted to, good on, good on, good on them.

1084
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,960
And we're Catholics.

1085
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,080
And I'm not sure, you know.

1086
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,160
I'm not sure where in the Bible it says priests have to be celebrated.

1087
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:04,120
Well, that was created in the 1200s, because the church didn't want to divide up property,

1088
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,120
because...

1089
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,080
I'm not sure where in the Bible...

1090
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,400
Well, okay, yeah, in the Bible, yeah, in the Bible, yeah.

1091
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,400
Where is that?

1092
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,120
I'm not going to get into the history of the Catholic Church, I guess.

1093
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,120
Let's do it.

1094
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:21,000
Well, in the history of the Catholic Church, the Catholics didn't want the priests to be

1095
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,920
able to divide up church land.

1096
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:25,920
And...

1097
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,480
Fair enough, but where in the Bible does it say that?

1098
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,880
What's the Bible have to do with Christianity?

1099
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,880
Exactly.

1100
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,600
And most Christians these days don't give a two fucks about the Bible, and they wouldn't

1101
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:38,600
care.

1102
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,600
What's the man Jesus have to do with the fucking Christian church?

1103
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:45,240
Yeah, what does the Middle Eastern skins, Jesus, have to do with anything?

1104
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:51,160
It's white Jesus we care about, and white Jesus loves guns and bacon and fucking off

1105
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,160
liberals.

1106
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,160
Oh, no, capitalism.

1107
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,160
Yeah, white Jesus loves capitalism.

1108
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,000
Well, why wouldn't he?

1109
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,080
He's white Jesus.

1110
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,080
He's white Jesus.

1111
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,840
For fuck's sake.

1112
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,840
For a dissertation, not a dissertation, but...

1113
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:09,280
All right, stay tuned for the next three hours as Mike launches into his dissertation on

1114
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,280
Catholicism.

1115
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,280
No, no, no.

1116
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:22,000
For my final paper for a class that was a dissertation, I talked about...

1117
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,200
As a fancy way of saying this dissertation is not a dissertation, but it really, truly

1118
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,200
is.

1119
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,200
It truly is.

1120
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,200
A dissertation.

1121
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:35,880
So I talked about American Jesus, and there's a book called In His Steps, and In His Steps

1122
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,680
is called...

1123
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,680
What Would Jesus Do?

1124
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,680
Remember all the WWJD bracelets?

1125
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,680
The bracelets.

1126
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,000
The bracelets.

1127
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:48,560
So I went into that book, because it was one book that caused all that What Would Jesus

1128
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,560
Do nonsense.

1129
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:50,560
Yeah.

1130
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:56,800
And the moral story of the book was, was Jesus a socialist or was Jesus a capitalist?

1131
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:03,960
It was written in the very late 1800s, like 1899, 1898, something like that.

1132
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,880
I've got a book called Misquoting Jesus, but that's a different thing.

1133
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,700
You do you.

1134
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:16,540
So anyway, the sum total of the book was that, yeah, Jesus was a socialist, but the socialists

1135
00:51:16,540 --> 00:51:19,440
that are around now are not Jesus-like figures.

1136
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,440
Not the same.

1137
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,440
Yeah, they're not the same.

1138
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,440
And rightly so.

1139
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,440
Well, why should they be?

1140
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,440
And why should they be?

1141
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,440
Exactly.

1142
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,440
And you can be all knowing...

1143
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:34,440
I'm a fan of the man Jesus, even though I'm not a believer of the man Jesus.

1144
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,000
You talked about your atheism.

1145
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:43,800
I am a Unitarian, firmly, firmly on the Unitarian side.

1146
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,600
Most of the founding fathers were firmly Unitarians.

1147
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:48,600
Absolutely.

1148
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:54,640
Even though a lot of naysayers will say that they were all Protestants and believers in

1149
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,280
Christ, and they will tell you that if you don't believe in Christ, you're not American.

1150
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,080
No, they were mostly Unitarians.

1151
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,080
They're mostly Unitarians.

1152
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,080
Mostly Unitarians.

1153
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,080
Yeah.

1154
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:09,720
John Adams, my favorite founding father, believed that Unitarianism would overtake the United

1155
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:11,200
States intellectually.

1156
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,200
Yes.

1157
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:20,040
Well, and Thomas Jefferson wrote his own Bible, where he took all the miracles out of the

1158
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,040
New Testament.

1159
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,040
Right.

1160
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,040
And it's the Thomas Jefferson Bible.

1161
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,040
You can go and read it.

1162
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,560
He believed in the moral principles of Jesus.

1163
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,960
He didn't believe in the fantastical miracles Jesus performed.

1164
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:34,960
Sure.

1165
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,680
Which is an important distinction, I think.

1166
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,600
I love the man Jesus.

1167
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,560
Yeah.

1168
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,800
He's an interesting philosopher, especially for his time.

1169
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,680
If, in fact, he existed.

1170
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,320
And there's a huge debate, yay or nay.

1171
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:59,240
But I think if you do read the Bible, or have read the Bible, regardless of whether or not

1172
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:07,600
you believe in it, and this is true of most philosophies, there are very, very good things

1173
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,640
to take out of all philosophies.

1174
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,440
At least one good thing out of every philosophy.

1175
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:18,480
And you need to remember that because I was huge into objectivism.

1176
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,840
And I would say, if you want to get into objectivism, I would say don't.

1177
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:22,920
Don't do it.

1178
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,160
It's all black and white.

1179
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,160
I think that...

1180
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:30,320
And they try and radicalize you against people that don't see exactly eye to eye.

1181
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,320
This is a great point.

1182
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,880
I think that the reason that you and I hated each other when we first met is because you

1183
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,440
were so devoted to objectivist philosophy.

1184
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,440
And I also want to mention this, and this is very embarrassing for me to acknowledge

1185
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,440
and to admit.

1186
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:47,880
And I don't know if that mic knows this.

1187
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:53,360
But I'm going to say this here for you, all the listeners, because we love you.

1188
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,960
And I have not heard this before.

1189
00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:01,520
You probably has not heard this before, is if you Google Wikipedia, bring your diarrhea.

1190
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,520
Honest to God.

1191
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,560
Okay, so my guy already knows.

1192
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:08,560
I know.

1193
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,560
You told me about, I'd never heard of bring your diarrhea.

1194
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:12,560
Okay, okay, I'm sorry.

1195
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:18,800
So I want to clear the air here so that we are all on the same page.

1196
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,200
And also to prove that I don't have much to hide.

1197
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,200
Okay?

1198
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,200
Yes.

1199
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,240
I do not have much to hide.

1200
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:32,560
And if my weaknesses and my feelings can inspire you to do better in your life, please, please,

1201
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,120
please take that opportunity to do so.

1202
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:41,920
But here's the thing, is right before, and you might not have heard ever this before,

1203
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:48,960
is right before I came to the bowling alley with you, I had just, like honest to God,

1204
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:54,000
and this is disgusting, and I hate to say this, and I'm almost hesitating to say this,

1205
00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:00,480
because of my male ego, my pride, but I will say this now, and this will be for you, the

1206
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:06,360
listeners and for Mike, my dearest friend.

1207
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,520
Sarah was like, we got to go meet my buddy Mike at the bowling alley to go bowling.

1208
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,160
And I said, great, that's fantastic.

1209
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,120
She went down to the car and started it.

1210
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,120
And what did I do?

1211
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,120
I said, I have to use the bathroom one more time.

1212
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,640
But I had the bring your diarrhea.

1213
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,520
Like honest to God, I had the bring your diarrhea.

1214
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,960
I'm not trying to like the bullshit anything.

1215
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,040
You Wikipedia, bring your diarrhea is a thing.

1216
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,120
Nobody knows what causes it.

1217
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,520
I had seen her at the door, the front door of the apartment.

1218
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:40,120
I closed the front door of the apartment and I thought to myself, oh my God, I have to

1219
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,720
shit so bad.

1220
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:43,120
I ran in the hallway.

1221
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,560
I shit my pants.

1222
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:51,520
I honestly, honest to God, as an adult human, I shit my pants.

1223
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:58,320
In the hallway, it went down the gene leg, went onto the carpet floor and I went to the

1224
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,840
bathroom and like just went to town.

1225
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,560
Like honestly, I went to town.

1226
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,640
Then I was done.

1227
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,360
I put on new clothes.

1228
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,960
I cleaned up the hallway with the appropriate cleaning things.

1229
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:19,840
Went down to the car and Sarah goes, I almost, I'd like literally almost just left you.

1230
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,280
I'm like, I just shit my pants and shit the hallway.

1231
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,280
You don't understand.

1232
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,680
This is a whole big ordeal for me.

1233
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:28,680
It's bad.

1234
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,000
It's not a good thing for me.

1235
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,800
Totally, totally terrible.

1236
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:32,800
Embarrassing.

1237
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,160
Embarrassing even when you're alone.

1238
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,160
Embarrassing.

1239
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,160
Yeah.

1240
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,840
If you're not, I mean, I swear to God, I didn't want to shit the hallway.

1241
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,840
Oh, yeah.

1242
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:49,640
I've never had control with my bowels, but this was a whole thing.

1243
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,280
I did it and you know what?

1244
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,520
I spent most of the time that night in the bathroom of the bowling alley with Mike, but

1245
00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:03,400
I came out and was able to come out enough to bowl my frames and it was a whole thing.

1246
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,840
I was not perceptive enough to know what was going on with me.

1247
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,840
Who would have been?

1248
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,760
Nobody should have been except Sarah, but she didn't care because I was hanging out

1249
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:13,760
with her friends.

1250
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,760
Right.

1251
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,960
You were still fresh as far as a couple.

1252
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,840
You weren't fresh yet.

1253
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:20,840
You were hardcore into the...

1254
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:26,320
Not fresh in the pants, I'll tell you that.

1255
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,320
But I shit you not.

1256
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,600
I swear to God, I don't know if you ever heard that before, but I did.

1257
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,560
I shit the hallway before I came out and met you the first time.

1258
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:35,560
I did not.

1259
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:36,560
You never told me you shit in the hallway.

1260
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,560
Well, it's embarrassing.

1261
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:38,560
It is embarrassing.

1262
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,560
What am I supposed to do?

1263
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,560
You know what?

1264
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,560
It happens, right?

1265
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:42,560
I mean...

1266
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:43,560
I thought for sure I had IBS.

1267
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:44,560
Sure.

1268
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,560
But it turns out I didn't.

1269
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:46,560
Yeah.

1270
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,160
And it was the brain or diarrhea.

1271
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,160
The brain or diarrhea.

1272
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,160
I've never freaking heard of that before ever in my life.

1273
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,160
I swear to God.

1274
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,160
It's not Wikipedia.

1275
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,160
So it's got to be true.

1276
00:57:53,160 --> 00:58:04,920
But for whatever reason, for that six month period, I had the absolute worst shits.

1277
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,240
And I was always very like, where am I going?

1278
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,160
How long is it going to take to get there?

1279
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,800
Because I'm not going to make it.

1280
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:13,800
Like bottle wise.

1281
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,120
But since then, ever since that passed, it's been fine.

1282
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,120
I've been normal.

1283
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,120
Just like anybody else.

1284
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,120
Sure.

1285
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:30,560
Well, you know, in your defense, after you left that town, now you're drinking well water

1286
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,800
because there's well water here.

1287
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:32,800
Yeah.

1288
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:33,800
And there's well water at your in-laws.

1289
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,120
Well, it was only the first couple of months.

1290
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:42,400
Like honestly, like after that, after that initial bout passed, everything was fine.

1291
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,400
Sure.

1292
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,840
And what does it have to do with because Brainerd fought against Florida?

1293
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,720
But for a while, I was just like, I was shitting all the time.

1294
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:51,720
That's crazy.

1295
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:52,720
I know.

1296
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,160
And I look at Brainerd diarrhea and sir's like, look at Brainerd diarrhea.

1297
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,440
I'm like, all right.

1298
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,000
And she was meeting as a joke.

1299
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,000
No.

1300
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,600
It was legitimately what's happening to me.

1301
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,760
And I looked it up on Wikipedia and it was exactly what was happening to me.

1302
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,840
And then after a couple of months, it was fine.

1303
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:07,840
And I was still there.

1304
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,240
I was still drinking the same water.

1305
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,520
I was, it was all fine.

1306
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:17,840
But that's why maybe I wasn't as open to buy the book Bowling Mike.

1307
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:18,840
Right.

1308
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,720
As I would have been if I wouldn't have been shitting myself every five minutes.

1309
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:27,520
I will acknowledge that I'm sorry, you know, high five.

1310
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,520
It's all good.

1311
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:29,520
High five listeners.

1312
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,520
We're best buds now.

1313
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:31,520
We're best buds now.

1314
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,520
We're best buds now.

1315
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:41,480
I will admit that in my mind space at that time, I wasn't super open to, I ain't rambling

1316
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:42,480
on that.

1317
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,840
I was usually into Iran, but you know what?

1318
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,680
I ran never, never accounted for brain or diarrhea.

1319
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:51,680
Right.

1320
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:52,680
Yeah.

1321
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,240
And it was a lot bigger into like socialism and socialist philosophy.

1322
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,240
Yeah.

1323
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,880
And I'm not huge into socialism, socialism, not even now, not even now, not even now.

1324
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,400
I know a lot more into it than.

1325
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:09,600
But I think the point is I'm not a huge into socialism, but what the actual fuck is going

1326
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,600
on with our health care?

1327
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,600
You know what I mean?

1328
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,080
Like what the actual fuck is going on?

1329
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:22,720
It's a fact that if we had some sort of public health care, we'd be better off.

1330
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,880
And I have a health care version plan.

1331
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,880
Let's call it that.

1332
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:29,880
Of the Bible.

1333
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,160
Yeah, of the Bible.

1334
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:38,840
There's no reason why the government couldn't sponsor the health care I have considering

1335
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,320
all extraneous factors.

1336
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:41,320
There's absolutely no reason.

1337
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:47,480
And all the health care that I had growing up, you know, my dad and me, there's no reason

1338
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:53,080
why that sort of health care couldn't have been provided for everybody at all the time.

1339
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,600
It would cost next to nothing by comparison to what we're spending now.

1340
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,440
On military?

1341
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,720
Military on the homeless population.

1342
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:03,720
I mean.

1343
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,600
That's a fraction of the military budget.

1344
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:14,400
I've heard consistently that it would take 20 billion dollars to house the homeless in

1345
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,320
the United States.

1346
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,880
And you know what?

1347
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,840
It's better for everybody no matter how you want to look at it.

1348
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,840
Elon must buy Twitter.

1349
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:23,840
Oh yeah, exactly.

1350
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,840
Elon must buy Twitter.

1351
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:29,060
Instead of buying Twitter, why don't you just house the homeless?

1352
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:30,480
It's better for everybody.

1353
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,480
Homeless people are human beings.

1354
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:32,480
Blah, blah, blah, blah.

1355
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,880
Well, they are.

1356
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,600
Homeless people on the street is bad.

1357
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:42,680
No matter what angle you look at it, it's positive for everyone.

1358
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,720
Also with the health care debate.

1359
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,400
Are you saying homeless people on the street is positive for everybody?

1360
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,360
No, I'm saying that homeless on the street is bad for everybody.

1361
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,280
It's a positive to like fucking get them off there.

1362
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,280
Well yeah.

1363
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,560
And it costs like pennies.

1364
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,560
There's multiple things.

1365
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,600
Well, it costs 20 billion dollars, apparently.

1366
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,600
Compared to these rich fucks that rule our country.

1367
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:03,960
It's pennies.

1368
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,640
20 billion is nothing.

1369
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,520
They just dropped that amount of money in Ukraine.

1370
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,600
More, more than that they dropped.

1371
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,120
Probably, probably more.

1372
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,560
I mean, it's ridiculous.

1373
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:15,760
Why are there homeless people?

1374
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:16,760
And we're not pro-Russia.

1375
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:17,760
Give them housing.

1376
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:18,760
Give them housing.

1377
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,120
We're not pro-Russia by any means.

1378
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,100
I'm not pro-anybody other than pro-me.

1379
01:02:23,100 --> 01:02:27,040
Why wouldn't you help these people that need help?

1380
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,040
I'm a hyper-nationalist.

1381
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,600
These citizens that are our citizens.

1382
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:37,240
They're our patriotic brothers and sisters and thems.

1383
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,000
Why wouldn't you support them?

1384
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,200
I'm a hyper-patriot.

1385
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:48,800
Why would you give Ukraine, and I understand opposing Putin.

1386
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,320
That's not what I'm saying.

1387
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:56,360
I'm saying is why would we have bases still in Japan who hasn't shown an aggressive bone

1388
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,040
in their body since 1940 or whatever.

1389
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,880
Oh, the Japanese are murderous fuckers.

1390
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,640
They have to be.

1391
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:05,840
They're rightfully so.

1392
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,000
But they're not anymore.

1393
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,480
They were then and they are now.

1394
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,480
We took the wind.

1395
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,480
We are now too.

1396
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:12,480
We are just as aggressive as they are.

1397
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,880
Everybody is, but we took the wind out of their sails.

1398
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,040
And you can like it or you can hate it.

1399
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,920
I don't care.

1400
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,960
The fact is they're not going to fuck with us anymore.

1401
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,120
Japan is not going to fuck with America anymore.

1402
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:33,440
Japan is now a member of the large nations or the modern nations.

1403
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,400
The in power nations.

1404
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,000
As an equal member, which is what they wanted even then.

1405
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,960
Which is what they even wanted then.

1406
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,960
Yes.

1407
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,200
But you know who's not going to fuck with us?

1408
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,200
Japan.

1409
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,520
You know who's not going to fuck with us?

1410
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:45,520
Germany.

1411
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,560
We're on the same side.

1412
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,520
You know who is going to fuck with us?

1413
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,200
Russia and China.

1414
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,200
Those are the two.

1415
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,520
And North Korea to some extent, however the fuck they figure it out.

1416
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,520
But you know what?

1417
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,200
Most of those people aren't going to fuck with us.

1418
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:04,840
And the point is we fucking showed them, I'm sorry history whatever yada yada.

1419
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,920
We didn't mean to nuke everybody, but we did and fuck you.

1420
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:09,920
I mean that's the point.

1421
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,520
We could have an episode about the nuclear bomb.

1422
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:13,520
We could.

1423
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:14,520
I'm pro nuclear bomb.

1424
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:19,160
I'm pro nuclear bomb too because my grandpa was stationed off the coast of Okinawa.

1425
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,160
You know what?

1426
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,160
Japan?

1427
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:22,160
Japan.

1428
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,520
Japan have really owned up and they've become their own and they've made really great electronics

1429
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:27,520
for everybody.

1430
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:32,200
Japan had a fucking society independent of us and they flourished.

1431
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,120
And they flourished, yeah.

1432
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,800
That hard attitude that people had my grandfather's age and your grandfather's age.

1433
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,520
For sure.

1434
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,480
He tried to instill that into me and I have a part of that in me.

1435
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:45,480
There's a part of that.

1436
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,040
But I'm not as hard as they were.

1437
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,040
Not as hard as they were.

1438
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:55,640
My grandmother was as hard as cut steel.

1439
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:56,640
Yeah.

1440
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,680
She was hard as cut steel.

1441
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:00,680
Yes.

1442
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:07,360
And she was a nurse and her husband was a World War II vet and she was very serious

1443
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:08,680
about everything.

1444
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:09,920
Yes.

1445
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,000
There was no joking and fun.

1446
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,020
Not at my grandparents house.

1447
01:05:14,020 --> 01:05:16,300
My grandfather was fun.

1448
01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:18,600
My grandmother was not fun.

1449
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:19,600
She was mean.

1450
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:20,600
Yes.

1451
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,000
Straight up mean.

1452
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:28,920
How is it that the war torn veteran was the nice guy in that relationship?

1453
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:29,920
But it was true.

1454
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:30,920
It was true.

1455
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:31,920
It's a realism.

1456
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:32,920
It's a realism.

1457
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,720
Maybe they were together and she was a nurse and he was a guy.

1458
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,720
Yeah.

1459
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,680
You have the idealistic vision of war.

1460
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,440
But unless you're fighting a war.

1461
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,720
He loved talking about tanks and how to blow up tanks because he was a tanker.

1462
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,040
But he never talked about any people that he killed.

1463
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:56,120
And I know that he had a whole box of or a whole drawer of metals because he was there

1464
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,120
for the whole time.

1465
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Well his whole point is you're fighting for your beliefs.

1466
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,240
My grandfather didn't fight for beliefs.

1467
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,680
I truly believe.

1468
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:15,560
So my grandfather hated Republicans to his dying day.

1469
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,120
He felt that Hubert Humphrey was trying to kill him.

1470
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,520
As he probably was.

1471
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:21,520
He did.

1472
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,560
He believed that he was trying to kill him.

1473
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:24,560
He picked fruit.

1474
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,320
He lived through the Great Depression.

1475
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:34,160
And when the war started he signed up first year at 16.

1476
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,800
And he fought Germans.

1477
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,400
And he killed lots of people.

1478
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:46,480
He's got he had he's dead now been dead now for 10 years more than 10 years 15 years more

1479
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,480
than 20 years.

1480
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,480
He's been dead for 20 years.

1481
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,760
Scary that my grandfather's been dead for 20 years.

1482
01:06:53,760 --> 01:07:00,360
But anyway he had a whole box of metals killing people you know because that's what he did.

1483
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:05,480
And that's just what they did.

1484
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,960
There was a whole generation of people they didn't know they were born to kill Nazis.

1485
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,600
But my grandfather was one of them.

1486
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:15,320
That's what he did best.

1487
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:23,840
He wasn't a good welder and he wasn't a good railway worker and he wasn't a good mason.

1488
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:30,840
But he did kill Nazis really well.

1489
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,640
He wasn't a very good husband or a very good father.

1490
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,480
He was a great grandfather.

1491
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:43,560
But he was old enough to accept his fucked up shit.

1492
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,080
Let's do a cigar check.

1493
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,080
I am done.

1494
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:48,080
He's done.

1495
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,720
What do you think?

1496
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,720
Very good very smooth.

1497
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:52,720
Very good.

1498
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:53,720
Even cigar throughout the whole thing.

1499
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:54,720
Me too.

1500
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:59,320
This is a great cigar and I encourage you to try it.

1501
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,040
Yeah you should try it.

1502
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,040
Give it a go.

1503
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,960
Nate has what three inches left?

1504
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,200
Yeah two and a half.

1505
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:08,200
Three.

1506
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,400
I highly recommend the Rocky Patel.

1507
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,800
Let's do the Rocky Patel.

1508
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:14,800
Thank you for listening.

1509
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,800
This has been Nice Ashes.

1510
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:34,640
Have a good day and hope.