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And you got me with a Biden vs. Trump guessing

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game, and now I'm going to hit you with a guessing

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game. Welcome to Nice Ashes. Join hosts Mike

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and Nate for cigars and culture. Let's go beyond

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the smoke. What are we smoking today, Nate? We

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are following up our Chillin' Moose, and we said

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we'd never smoke another one. But here we are,

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smoking the Chillin' Moose 2, and that's T -O

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-O, not T -W -O, and not the letter 2, the number

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2, or T -O, or T -U with the little, like, dashy

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thing above it. Yeah. Great label, yet again.

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Great label. Yeah, the moose is pulling a rabbit

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that's smoking a cigar out of a magic hat. I

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like it. Yeah, I like the labels. I wish the

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cigars lived up to the... Graphic design. Maybe

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this one will. Oh, yeah. Time to light up. Time

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to light up. So this one is the Maduro version.

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Yeah. I'm hoping that we'll get a little better

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experience out of the Maduro. Yeah, the first

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few puffs are fine. Nothing exemplary. Yeah,

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I mean, we've talked about this before where

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it seems like a Maduro cigar is like dark coffee.

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You can kind of hide lower quality leaf with

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a darker cigar blend. So I'm hoping it'll be

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a little better. I'm hoping so. I hope the acetone

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taste of the last one kind of progressively got

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worse or more prominent as we smoked the cigar.

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I'm hoping we don't have that with this, but

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we'll see. Time will tell. I am pairing mine

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with a Voodoo Ranger IPA. And I'm drinking iced

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Guatemalan hue hue and some water. Nice. Are

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you sure it's not Guatemalan he he he? I am sure.

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I am sure. All right, fine. I was rolling around

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town today and I saw a bag from a roaster that

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I know and I love Guatemalan hue hue. Yep. And

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I fresh ground it and made it. There you go.

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Yes, the hue hue is good. We get some of that

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from Costco. They got the big old bags. I like

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those big old bags. This is not the Costco. Sure.

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No, I like it. I think they have Duluth Coffee

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Company at Costco. They do. That's typically

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what we get. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. But there's

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another one we get. I can't remember what it

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is now, but the Duluth is good. Very good. Hell

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yeah. Okay. So this is a Nate Knows and Mike

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Does Not episode, but we're going to keep things

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light because we've been getting a little too

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heavy with some of this stuff. I've felt with

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Project 2030 and eating bugs. I don't know, people

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trying to make documentaries, but not very well.

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And let's just lighten this thing up a little

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bit. So we're going to do, and I'm going to send

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you, Mike, here in just a second in the chat,

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in our podcast recording here, the list of choices

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that you are going to have, because this is going

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to be a guessing game. And you got me with a

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Biden versus Trump guessing game, and now I'm

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going to hit you with a guessing game. I copyrighted

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that. So I'm going to send you your list of choices.

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I have 50 questions. We don't have to get through

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them all. I just thought 50 was a good number.

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Chances are we're not going to hit all 50. That

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would be insane. Do you have any ideas what you

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might be guessing, Mike? I have no idea what

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we're discussing. All right. This is called Guess

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the Sin. Guess the sin guessing game. So I'm

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going to read you a sin, and you're going to

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guess the religion. And I've put in the chat

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now the different religions you can choose from.

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We've got Christianity, Islam, Jainism, Buddhism,

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Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism. Oh,

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I put Sikhism in there twice. but it's only in

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there once. But several answers might be that.

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I don't know, so we'll see. As a disclaimer,

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I had ChatGTP write me up 50 guessing games with

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sins, and I went through the first, oh, I don't

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know, 16, and put the actual quotes from the

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religious text. I found through the first 16

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of these that the sin was accurate, but sometimes

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the citation was not. so that it was wrong on

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maybe the chapter or the verse of some of these

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things. But I only did the first 16 because who

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has that much time outside of Matt Walsh to write

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all this stuff down? Right, right, right. You're

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not filming yourself opening jars of pickles

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at home. Yes. Oh, I'm such a strong manly man.

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I ratcheted this jar top down so my wife would

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have to ask me later. Anyway, do you have any

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concerns before we kick this off? This is supposed

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to be light and fun. I have no concerns. None

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at all. I figured you might be a little more

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versed in some of these other religions than

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I am. Sure. I mean, I will give you and the listeners

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fair warning. I'm pretty sure I'm on the same

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bowling team as the dude right now. There you

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go. There you go. You don't roll on Shabbos.

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Don't bowl on Shabbos. Also, for your bingo cards,

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you can mark that off. Okay, so the first round

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here, we're going to do a softball pitch. Maybe.

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We'll see. You tell me, Mike. You tell me. Greed

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is seen as distancing one from spiritual fulfillment.

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Sure. So that has got to be Buddhism, and possibly

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more than just Buddhism, because I don't know

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a lot about Jainism. But in early Christianity,

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that was definitely the case. And Sikhism and

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Hinduism have elements of that as well. But I'm

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not sure if it's explicit. Like, it isn't Buddhism.

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Yeah. And I guess, you know, to be fair, a lot

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of these, and we don't have to get into a huge

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religious debate, but a lot of religions take

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inspiration, let's say, from other religions.

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At least that's true of, you know, Christianity

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and the Bible. And there's multiple stories of...

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Children being floated down the river who then

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become the king of said country that they were

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picked up in. Oh, yeah. Well, I know that, you

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know, in my catechism, I found a lot of inspiration

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from Christ's, not hatred, but contempt for the

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wealthy and the money changers. Yeah, whipping

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the bankers and flipping chairs and tables and

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things. So this one actually is Christianity.

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Oh, okay. The Bible, Luke 12, 15. Then he said

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to them, watch out. Be on your guard against

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all kinds of greed. Life does not consist in

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an abundance of possessions. Musk, Bezos, are

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you listening? I'm going to keep, are you going

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to keep track of my score? I'm not keeping, I'm

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not going to keep score. Oh, I'm keeping score.

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Fuck that. I'm a fun guy. I'm a fun guy over

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here. I'm drinking my beer, smoking my cigar.

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We'll see how many you get right. This is not

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about fun, all right? I knew this would appeal

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to your male fantasy of winning. Here we go.

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Victory at all costs. Yeah. So I only did the

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first 16 with the quotes from the actual texts

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because it would take too long to read them all.

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And in the first 16, we hit all of the major

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religions that I sent to Mike. So we'll get a

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sense of their flavor of what their religious

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texts are. And then going forward, I'll say what

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it is. And if you're interested in that, you

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can look it up later. And I might put this on

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our Patreon too, just the copy paste of the questions

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and the answers if we don't get to all 50 of

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them. So you can check it out there. I might

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just make it a free tier one. We'll see. Round

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two, question two. Harming any form of life,

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even in the tiniest, is a moral offense. Hinduism.

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This is actually Jainism. Oh, hey. In Jainism,

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ahimsa, meaning nonviolence or non -harm, is

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a central ethical principle that guides all actions,

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thoughts, and speech. It is considered the cornerstone

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of Jainism and is a crucial step toward achieving

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liberation. From the cycle of rebirth. And I

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don't know anything about Jainism. I know that

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it's very similar to Hinduism. Okay. It's kind

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of that Eastern mysticism type of thing. Yeah.

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I have a book that I'm anxious to read. Not anxious,

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but I'm excited to read. Why the Buddhists are

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right or something. Seems interesting. Oh, for

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sure. Well, they all cross over too. Yeah. So

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in that like Indian peninsula, continental India.

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All those religions kind of mix together. Very

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interesting. Yeah. And I feel there's a lot of

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overlap in religions in general about big things.

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Oh, for sure. I think it's the smaller things

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they differ on. All right. Third question. Speaking

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negatively about others behind their backs is

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condemned. Islam. You are correct. The Quran,

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Surah Al -Huwajat 49 .12. Oh, believers, avoid

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many suspicions, for indeed some suspicions are

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sinful. And do not spy nor backbite one another.

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Would any of you like to eat the flesh of their

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dead brother? You would despise that and fear

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Allah. Surely Allah is the acceptor of repentance,

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most merciful. So I also feel like cannibalism

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is probably not okay with them. Being a hypocrite

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is not okay with them either. I like that. Yeah.

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Yeah. I don't know. I heard it said once where

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of all the philosophies. And we can extend that

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to religions. All the philosophies and religions

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in the world, no matter what they are, each one

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of them has at least one kind of like golden

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nugget to take away from. Oh, okay. I would agree

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with that. Yeah. You don't have to fully agree

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with everything, but, you know, you read, you

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know, and the Stoics say to read things that

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you don't agree with because that's the only

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way you can grow. But in those things you think

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you don't agree with, you might find something

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you do agree with or something that really does

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resonate with you. So I just wanted to put that

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out there because we're looking at a bunch of

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different religions and I'm an atheist. But some

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of these things, I mean, there's really good

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tenants in a lot of these religions. Oh, for

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sure. And that's kind of like the Jordan Peterson

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thing where like the religious stories, you know,

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allegorically they're true and very interesting

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psychologically to analyze the ancient religions.

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Yeah. And there's a lot of crossover. Passed

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down or orally, you know, and an interesting

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historical insight. Yep. Absolutely. All right.

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Number four. I guess I'm fucked in this religion.

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Consuming alcohol is discouraged as it clouds

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moral judgment. Islam. This is Buddhism. I'm

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going to try to pronounce this and I'm sorry.

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The Dhammapada verse 22, sorry, verse 246 to

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247. He who destroys life, tells lies, takes

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what is not given him, commits adultery, and

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takes intoxicating drinks, digs up his own roots,

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even in this very life. Interesting. Yeah, Islam

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bans drinking also. That quote has a lot more

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than just the drinking, but... Yeah, yeah. All

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right, you're still keeping score, Mike? Yes,

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I am. All right, I'll check in with you every

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10. Question five. Wanting what belongs to others

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is considered sinful. That is... Christianity,

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Judaism, and Islam. Well, give yourself a point.

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This is Judaism. This example comes from the

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Torah, Exodus 20 .14. You shall not covet your

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neighbor's house, you shall not covet your neighbor's

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wife, his manservant, his maidservant, his ox,

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his donkey, or whatever belongs to your neighbor.

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So I feel like that is a lot more progressive

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than the New Testament and the Bible saying you

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shouldn't cover his manservant or maidservant.

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you know, whatever you feel attracted to, I guess,

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right? I'm trying to keep this episode light.

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It's supposed to be a fun thing, and we'll see

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how good Mike does. It is fun. It's way more

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progressive. It's fun and educational, I think.

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And it's funny because I talk to Simha a lot,

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and, you know, we both grew up Christian, and

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he's now, you know, a Jew, and I'm an atheist,

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but we talk about a lot of this stuff. He likes

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to make fun of the Christians as I do because

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we both grew up that. And we were just talking

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today about, you know, the New Testament and

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some of the weird shit in there. And the Jews

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don't believe in the New Testament. You know,

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they have the Torah and that's kind of sort of

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the Old Testament, you know, but they have a

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different translation, of course. So it's very

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interesting stuff, I think, if you have an open

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mind. I agree. All right. Question six. Excessive

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pride leads to spiritual ruin. Christianity.

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Ding, ding, ding. Proverbs 16, 18, pride goes

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before destruction, a haughty spirit before a

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fall. Tell you what, I'd be down for seeing a

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lot more of the prideful in modern day America

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fall. Yeah, I remember that one too, explicitly

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from my catechism reading the Bible. Yes. I,

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you know, having read the Bible, all these large

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portions of it, not all of it, all of it. Yeah.

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I should read all of it. I did find it inspirational

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and intuitive or just similar to reading mythology,

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Greek mythology and other old tales. Like they

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were informative and entertaining. Well, I mean,

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that's kind of the thing is if you read the Bible

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and you. read it from the sense that you understand

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people take everything in there literally, it's

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a horrifying book. Like absolutely horrifying.

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If you read it in the sense of you would read

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like Greek mythology, it's fascinating. Right.

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Greek mythology is horrifying if you take it

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literally. I think all mythology is probably

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terrifying if you take it literally. Right. Nordic

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mythology is like wild. Yeah. Yeah. So. All right.

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Question seven. Sexual misconduct is morally

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wrong and disrupts spiritual growth. Ooh. I mean,

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no, it's not the Catholics. It's probably, yeah.

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I mean, God, that sounds like all of them, to

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be honest with you. I'm going to go Sikhism on

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this one because we haven't had a Sikhism yet.

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Okay. But that is a general rule of all religions.

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Yeah, and there's just enough crossover where

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most of these could be applied to almost any

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of these religions. Which is maybe the point

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of the episode, but I'm not as heavy -handed

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as Matt Walsh, so we'll let that be decided by

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the listener. This one's actually Buddhism. The

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Pali Canon and the Five Precepts. I undertake

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the precept to refrain from sexual misconduct.

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There we go. All right, you're going to get this

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one, I feel. I'm rooting for you, Mike. Eight,

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number eight. Use of mind -altering substances

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is to be avoided. I'll say Islam. Hinduism. Hinduism.

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Hinduism. There we go. Yes. Manus Mitri 416.

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He shall not through desires become addicted

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to any sensual objects. Excessive addiction to

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these he shall avoid by mental reflection. There

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were some other ones. This is one where it was

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very difficult to try and track down the actual

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quote. There was other ones about like pharmaceutical

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drugs, but it was a little bit different. It

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was worded differently. And this one. I was reading

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some of the, this is why it would have taken

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too long to do all 50 of these, because I was

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reading through like the explanation of the translations

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and what the words meant at the time and everything

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in sensual objects. Today means, you know, like

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boobs and dicks or whatever, right? And at the

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time it was anything that like tempted you. So

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it could be mind altering drugs. And, you know,

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it talks about addictions and things like that.

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Sure. We could really get into the weeds on a

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lot of these things by trying to break them down.

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Oh, yeah. Well, that's part of the reason why

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religious zealots are so moving to people because

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you can reinterpret and reinterpret and reinterpret.

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Yeah. Twist it to whatever you want it to be

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to an extent. Yes. And the only thing that really

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matters in terms of if you're trying to live

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by one of these religions, how the thing that

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was said, what it meant in the time it was said

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is what matters, not what it means today through

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the translation, unless the translation takes

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into account what it would have meant back then.

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Because there's, I don't know, a lot of these

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classics of ancient literature have all been

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translated. thousands of times, at least hundreds

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of times, but sometimes thousands of times, you

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know. And I always try and look for the widely

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accepted best translation, you know, who was

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the one that translated it best, most accurately,

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whatever. You know, Marcus Aurelius' Meditations

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is one, like Robert Hayes' translation is widely

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regarded as being one of the best, if not the

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best. But if you read somebody else's translation,

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and there's reason to read other translations

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of it because Some translations speak differently

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to individuals than other translations do. So

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it's kind of the same thing with a lot of these

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religious texts because they weren't written

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in English, except maybe Mormonism is probably

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the only one that was. But everything else wasn't

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written in English. So it's all a translation

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of a translation in a lot of cases. Absolutely.

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I mean, the original books of the New Testament

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were potentially Aramaic. And there's like a

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couple hundred people on the planet that are

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native Aramaic speakers. You know, so. Yeah.

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And they were translated to Greek and then Latin

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and then English. Yep. And don't get me started

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on King James. Question nine. Taking what isn't

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freely given is a sin. Zoroastrianism. Sickism.

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Like, there we go. So it was tough to kind of

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find this one because, I mean, you know, taking

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what isn't freely given is a sin. Well, that

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could be Christianity. Don't covet thy neighbor's

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wife. That sort of thing, you know. But this

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one here, the actual quote is, if I've committed

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theft and gained something, I have gained dishonor

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in this world and the next. So they're pretty

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against it. Yeah, I like it. Go Seeks. Go Team

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Seek. Yeah. I know somebody who has a family

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emerald mind that might not be well -received

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in Seekism. But anyway, question 10. I don't

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mean to be extra salty, but fuck it. It's all

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fun and games. Yes. Yes. We're supposed to have

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fun this episode. This is a fun episode. Not

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that any of them are unfun. Not that any of them

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are unfun. But, you know, sometimes you got to

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lighten the mood a little bit. Yeah, you'll have

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less editing for this episode. God, I hope so.

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Allah, I hope so. Flying spaghetti monster, I

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hope so. All right. Question 10, and then we're

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going to do a score check and a cigar check.

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Breaking a solemn vow is a severe moral fault.

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Ooh. It's got to be Zoroastrianism, because I

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think that's the only one that we haven't covered.

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You said. You would be right. Yeah. So, this

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is Zorian Astronism, Zoroastrianism, the Avesta,

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Farguard 18. But I have like 27 on the quote

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here, so. You know, figure it out. May herds

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of oxen and sons accrue to thee. May thy mind

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be a master of its vow. May the soul be a master

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of its vow. And mayest thou live on in the joy

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of thy soul all the nights of thy life. That

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is some old -timey religious talk right there.

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Yeah, and this makes me realize I have no idea

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what the fuck Zoroastrianism is. I know the basic

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outline of it. Oh, well, all right. I do. I know

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the basic outline of it. It's a dead religion.

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Well, it's not a dead religion, but there's not

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a lot of people like the Muslims. First the Christians,

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then the Muslims have persecuted them for the

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last 1 ,000 years, 2 ,000 years. So not many

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of them left. Most of them converted. What is

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religion without persecuting? Well, right. I

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mean, honestly, if you're going to be religious,

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you might as well persecute a couple people.

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You got to. If you're not going to be burning

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witches at the stake. It's right there in the

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name. You got to do it. Yeah, I mean, I like

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barbecue. I also like bonfires. There you go.

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All right, where are you at score -wise, Mike?

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I am at a pathetic four, and that is including

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two half points. Well, that's okay. I would score

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really poorly in this one, I think. That's why

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I'm asking you these questions. Yeah, well, you

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know, I think I see a trend. I think I see a

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trend. Okay. I'm not going to spoil it for the

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viewer if they haven't noticed the trend yet,

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but I'm feeling a trend. Okay. Well, you know,

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that's good. Get your head in the game, and we'll

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see if that pays off. What do you think about

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the cigar, Mike? It's better than the last one.

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It's better than the last one. It's spicier.

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Yep. The spice didn't kick in until about, I

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don't know, an inch in, though. And that's fine.

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That's true. That's true. That spiciness has

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largely covered up the acetone that it started

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off with, in my opinion. So it's better. I still

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say it is darker, it is spicier, and it's still

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just a bin cigar, in my opinion. I'm not overly

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thrilled with it. But I do like it better than

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the last one for what it's worth. All right.

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Mike has a strategy in mind, and that's a beautiful

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thing. We've got more questions to get through.

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We'll see if that strategy pays off. Question

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11. Indulging in envy disrupts inner peace and

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divine connection. Ooh. Missy Jane -ism. You

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would be wrong. This is Christianity, James 3

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.16. For where you have envy and selfish ambition,

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there you find disorder and every evil practice.

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Now, here's a question for you, Nate. Now that

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we have the exact, no doubt, King James Version

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read off. Yes. The Witch Hunter General or whatever.

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I find it interesting that that is in Christianity

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because I'm pretty sure there's elements of that

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in Buddhism. and Hinduism, and probably Sikhism.

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Well, I mean, that's the whole thing. So what

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I wanted to do was find all the weirdest sins,

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like the fucking strangest ones, man. And I just

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wasn't having any luck with that. They were all

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like Christian sins, right, from the Bible. I

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couldn't find like really bizarre sins from other

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religions, so it would have been a terrible guessing

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game. Well, yeah, and the weird ones are well

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known. Yeah. No eating beef, but you can eat

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buffalo. You can't eat cattle. Don't plant two

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crops in the same field. Don't wear clothing

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of two different materials. Don't, you know,

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like all of these things, you know, and they're

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all mostly from the Bible. And you could, you

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know, extrapolate that to some other religions

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perhaps. But, like, you'd have to almost have,

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like, a PhD in all these other religions to find

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out the weirdest, like, things. And it wasn't

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a quick, you know, research trip down the Google

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lane or whatever. So that's why it kind of changed

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into, like, guess the sin guessing game instead

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of these are some fucking weird sins. Guess what

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they're from. And then you could just guess Christianity

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and be right every single time. But again, we

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said this at the top of the episode, like a lot

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of these religions have more overlap than followers

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of these religions oftentimes will admit to.

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And that is fun for our episode and should be

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fun in real life. But I guess it's, you know,

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served in most cases to drive a wedge between

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a lot of these people, hence the persecution.

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Maybe that's the point of the episode is we can

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have fun and say, you know, this could actually

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apply to a lot of these different religions because

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we have a moderate understanding of these other

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religions and their basic tenets and principles.

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And this would fit most of them, if not all of

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them. So did I do the Matt Walsh thing and went

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too heavy handed with that, Mike? No, I don't

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think so. You could be attacking me and trying

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to get me to say something really stupid. No,

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I'm not trying to attack you. No, obviously not.

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Why won't you pay the black man? We have a black

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man right here. Why won't you pay him? Go get

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your white woman purse and pay the black man.

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Why won't you say that you love Islam? Zoroaster

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was the greatest. Why would you not admit this?

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I thought Zoroaster was the little machine Tom

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Hanks went to in Big. There we go. Zoltran. Sorry,

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everybody. Late episode, I said. All right. I

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think you're going to get this one, Mike. You're

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going to get this one. I believe in you. Question

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12. Lying is a violation of sacred speech. Oh.

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I'm going to go Sikhism. That seems like it'll

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work. It will not, Mike. It will not. This is...

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Oh, there we go. Yeah, good times. This is Buddhism,

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the polycanon right speech. And what is right

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speech? Abstaining from lying, from divisive

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speech, from abusive speech, and from idle chatter.

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This is called right speech. There go all of

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our news media outlets, Mike. They're all gone.

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I was going to say, that sounds like some 1984

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shit right there. Yep. Question 13. Wastefulness

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is frowned upon as it disrespects creation. Ooh.

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I'm going to go Jainism. Got to go back to the

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Jainism. All right. All right. This is Islam.

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The Quran. Surah Al -Araf, 731. Oh, children

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of Adam, dress properly wherever you are at worship.

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Eat and drink, but do not waste. Surely he does

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not like the wasteful. I feel like that... That's

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another one of those. I think I'm sensing a trend

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here, Nate. The trend is there's a lot more in

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common than there is in difference. Surely not.

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Surely not. No, they all hate each other, of

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course. Right. Okay, this next one, I feel like

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this is like the underhand pitch of the wiffle

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ball in gym class. Because the girl that likes

00:26:03.170 --> 00:26:06.230
you is tossing you the ball that you can hit

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with your bat. So you can get like a home run,

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okay? I want you to pay attention to the words

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I'm about to use, obviously, because that's how

00:26:13.140 --> 00:26:14.559
you're going to know I'm asking you a question,

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right? Sure. Listen to the words coming out of

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my mouth so you know how to answer the words

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coming out of my mouth. Okay, question 14. Cheating

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others in business is a sin. Oh, I know what

00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.519
it's not. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going

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to say it. You almost had me. It's going to be

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another hot takes, and I'm not going to do it.

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I'm going to say Zoroastrianism. Got to go for

00:26:44.099 --> 00:26:46.480
an old boy Zoro. Come on, man. Do you need to

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phone a friend? Do you want to re -guess? I'm

00:26:49.819 --> 00:26:51.920
going to say Judaism. You'd be right. Judaism,

00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:56.599
the Torah, Leviticus 19, 35 through 36. So the

00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.059
problem with Judaism and Christianity is... They

00:27:00.059 --> 00:27:04.440
use the same books for, you know, at least half

00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.339
of their religious texts. The interpretations

00:27:07.339 --> 00:27:09.759
might be different, and they have different supplemental

00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:11.880
texts. There's a lot of crossover, and Islam

00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.680
is the same, because Islam uses the Torah also.

00:27:14.900 --> 00:27:18.960
Yeah. Parts of it or whatever. I'm not 100 %

00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.859
sure. Yeah, they're all very similar, and Christianity

00:27:23.859 --> 00:27:27.960
uses the New Testament, which Judaism doesn't.

00:27:29.500 --> 00:27:33.799
Islam uses the prophet Muhammad instead of Jesus,

00:27:34.059 --> 00:27:37.200
I believe. But I believe, and I might be wrong,

00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.559
that Jesus makes an appearance in the Quran,

00:27:40.700 --> 00:27:44.799
but is merely a prophet instead of the literal

00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.000
son of God. Yes. And they also consider the New

00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.400
Testament to be corrupted. And I think they consider

00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:55.480
the Torah partially corrupted. Yep. Half -y,

00:27:55.500 --> 00:27:58.559
half -y, I guess. Half true, half not. I'm not

00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:01.400
100 % sure about that. Yeah, I don't know the

00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.039
percentages, how they shake out. But I know there's

00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.180
a lot of crossover, like you said, and they all

00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:09.099
have kind of differing opinions past the Old

00:28:09.099 --> 00:28:13.039
Testament. Let's just say that. Yes. So this

00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:17.099
one is Judaism, Leviticus. You shall do no wrong

00:28:17.099 --> 00:28:19.619
in judgment in measure of length or weight or

00:28:19.619 --> 00:28:22.759
quantity. You shall have just balances, just

00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:34.819
weights, a just... I added that last bit, but

00:28:34.819 --> 00:28:37.940
you know. I think a lot of the rules in the Old

00:28:37.940 --> 00:28:42.400
Testament are amongst Jews only. Leviticus for

00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:46.920
sure is Judaism only, I believe, because that's

00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:50.680
where you don't lay with a woman who is bleeding.

00:28:51.210 --> 00:28:53.990
You don't eat pork. You do no work on the Sabbath,

00:28:54.150 --> 00:28:56.829
that sort of thing. They're almost rules specific

00:28:56.829 --> 00:29:01.269
to Jews. Yes. From my understanding. And I actually

00:29:01.269 --> 00:29:04.470
had an interesting conversation with Simha about

00:29:04.470 --> 00:29:07.450
this, where I was basically saying like, you

00:29:07.450 --> 00:29:09.829
know, like Leviticus and all that applies to

00:29:09.829 --> 00:29:15.269
Jews. And it's really kind of more anthropologically

00:29:15.269 --> 00:29:19.869
speaking, like passing on medical advice. for

00:29:19.869 --> 00:29:22.349
healthy living advice. Because at that time,

00:29:22.569 --> 00:29:25.069
you know, eating pork or doing this or the other

00:29:25.069 --> 00:29:27.750
thing, or they didn't understand germs. And so

00:29:27.750 --> 00:29:29.930
like laying with somebody who's bleeding is probably

00:29:29.930 --> 00:29:32.349
a bad idea if you don't know what you're doing,

00:29:32.470 --> 00:29:34.910
right? You don't have modern medicine and stuff

00:29:34.910 --> 00:29:37.130
like that. And he kind of came back and said,

00:29:37.190 --> 00:29:39.109
you know, that's all fine and good, but we don't

00:29:39.109 --> 00:29:41.930
do it because of that. Like we don't do it necessarily

00:29:41.930 --> 00:29:44.190
because we... believe this or that or the other

00:29:44.190 --> 00:29:46.150
thing like we believe that you know like you

00:29:46.150 --> 00:29:48.710
can eat clean pork nowadays but that's not why

00:29:48.710 --> 00:29:51.849
we're kosher uh we're kosher because that's what

00:29:51.849 --> 00:29:55.069
god asked us to do and we're just doing it because

00:29:55.069 --> 00:29:56.829
he asked us and i was like well that's an easy

00:29:56.829 --> 00:29:59.069
way to look at it well yeah that's true now for

00:29:59.069 --> 00:30:01.730
sure i mean well yeah and i like like i that's

00:30:01.730 --> 00:30:03.410
not a slight i just mean like that was a very

00:30:03.410 --> 00:30:06.650
interesting um perspective that i'd never considered

00:30:06.650 --> 00:30:11.150
before you know like you know i just an eye -opening

00:30:11.150 --> 00:30:13.059
thing for me as an atheist and Like, why would

00:30:13.059 --> 00:30:15.720
I do something the man in the sky wants, you

00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.920
know? Right, not cheating your customers is probably

00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.680
a healthy practice for your society. Especially

00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.299
if it was an issue previous to moving away from

00:30:25.299 --> 00:30:28.180
Egypt, let's say, right? Like, if your society

00:30:28.180 --> 00:30:30.559
picked up bad habits from the Egyptians, probably

00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:32.819
wise to clean up some of those bad business practices,

00:30:33.099 --> 00:30:36.680
you know? Well, yeah. And a lot of, what is it,

00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.410
Islam or the Muslims? Still cut off a hand if

00:30:40.410 --> 00:30:42.490
you steal. In some countries, supposedly. In

00:30:42.490 --> 00:30:46.470
some countries, yeah. So, yeah, very interesting

00:30:46.470 --> 00:30:50.130
stuff. Okay, question 15. Malice towards others

00:30:50.130 --> 00:30:53.529
is spiritually destructive. Buddhism. This one

00:30:53.529 --> 00:30:57.890
is Sikhism. Terrible scheme. So close, so close.

00:30:57.970 --> 00:31:01.710
Terrible scheme. Almost like you're not a believer,

00:31:01.829 --> 00:31:05.190
Mike. It's almost like they're all the same.

00:31:05.230 --> 00:31:10.380
I mean... It's almost like they're all ambiguous

00:31:10.380 --> 00:31:13.900
enough that it could almost be any one of these

00:31:13.900 --> 00:31:16.740
things. Yeah, this one I couldn't find, but it

00:31:16.740 --> 00:31:23.059
says it's the Guru Granth Sahib. He is the Lisan

00:31:23.059 --> 00:31:29.740
Madib, 1374, allegedly. So again, some of these

00:31:29.740 --> 00:31:32.200
religions, if they're not Christianity or Judaism

00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:36.240
or Buddhism or Islam. It's very difficult to

00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:39.859
find the actual texts, at least, on English Google.

00:31:40.180 --> 00:31:43.380
Right, yeah. There's no need. It's a very niche

00:31:43.380 --> 00:31:49.259
thing. It's difficult. That's why I couldn't

00:31:49.259 --> 00:31:51.480
do all of them. And this next one here, question

00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.720
16, is the last one I actually looked up the

00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:55.920
stuff. But I'll tell you all the things, and

00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.680
I'll post this on our Patreon for free. So if

00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:00.619
you want to look these up and check them out,

00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.400
that's on you. And that's good. I mean, that's

00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:05.119
the whole point. Well, not the whole point. The

00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:06.559
whole point is to have fun. But the other point

00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.119
is, if some of these things speak to you, then

00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.319
check it out. Maybe there's something in these

00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:13.799
other religions or philosophies or however you

00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:15.549
want to view them that might... be applicable

00:32:15.549 --> 00:32:17.630
to your life or something you might take away

00:32:17.630 --> 00:32:19.390
and say, hey, that's kind of a neat idea. I've

00:32:19.390 --> 00:32:21.650
never thought of that before. All right, question

00:32:21.650 --> 00:32:24.710
16. You're going to get this one. I know you

00:32:24.710 --> 00:32:27.829
will. I believe in you. Selfishness weakens one

00:32:27.829 --> 00:32:31.549
connection to the divine. Buddhism. So close.

00:32:32.009 --> 00:32:36.170
So close. Jainism. Even not closer, further.

00:32:36.950 --> 00:32:41.730
Zoroastrianism. This is Hinduism. Hinduism. This

00:32:41.730 --> 00:32:47.539
is the... Bhagavad Gita 316. O Parth, those who

00:32:47.539 --> 00:32:50.039
do not accept their responsibility in the cycle

00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.700
of sacrifice established by the Vedas are sinful.

00:32:53.940 --> 00:32:56.059
They live only for the delight of their senses.

00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.500
Indeed, their lives are in vain. There we go.

00:32:59.740 --> 00:33:02.440
Yes. Well, and I know we've talked previously

00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.920
about Ayn Rand and how I was a huge follower

00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.019
of Ayn Rand for a bit. And her thing was selfishness

00:33:09.019 --> 00:33:12.519
is awesome and the best thing in the world. And

00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.980
the one thing, and again, so like at the beginning

00:33:14.980 --> 00:33:17.019
of the episode, we were talking about, you know,

00:33:17.019 --> 00:33:19.579
every philosophy or religion has at least one

00:33:19.579 --> 00:33:22.259
good thing you can take away from it, hopefully.

00:33:22.500 --> 00:33:25.680
And the thing I took away from objectivism, Ayn

00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:29.849
Rand's philosophy. was don't accept unearned

00:33:29.849 --> 00:33:32.910
guilt, which is huge with mother -in -laws, with

00:33:32.910 --> 00:33:35.710
mothers. Family is huge on that. They love to

00:33:35.710 --> 00:33:38.069
try and saddle you with guilt that you actually

00:33:38.069 --> 00:33:41.710
didn't earn. And these DEI people want to saddle

00:33:41.710 --> 00:33:44.069
you with stuff that's unearned. So, you know.

00:33:44.130 --> 00:33:47.309
Yeah. It's very strange, the obsession with inherited

00:33:47.309 --> 00:33:49.950
guilt going on in our society right now. Yeah.

00:33:50.269 --> 00:33:52.490
And, you know, that was one of the things. And

00:33:52.490 --> 00:33:54.329
we didn't talk about it last episode, but the

00:33:54.329 --> 00:33:56.309
PhD student was talking about like the self and

00:33:56.309 --> 00:33:59.089
the shadow self. And the shadow self is the one

00:33:59.089 --> 00:34:01.369
that's like a descendant of the slave owners

00:34:01.369 --> 00:34:03.849
of all white people. Because, of course, all

00:34:03.849 --> 00:34:06.250
white people own slaves. All white people were

00:34:06.250 --> 00:34:08.250
wealthy enough at the time to own slaves. It

00:34:08.250 --> 00:34:11.170
wasn't just the rich elite. Heavy sarcasm. All

00:34:11.170 --> 00:34:14.590
right. Question 17. I'm excited for you, Mike.

00:34:14.889 --> 00:34:18.949
Betrayal of trust is a moral wrongdoing. Zoroastrianism.

00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.059
And you nailed it, just like I knew you would.

00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:22.940
I think it was because of the language used.

00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:25.960
Those are our astronisms. They're pretty old

00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:29.219
-timey. Yep, they do like that. This is the Vesta

00:34:29.219 --> 00:34:33.179
Venidad 4, allegedly. Allegedly. Question 18.

00:34:33.539 --> 00:34:35.460
Again, like I said, I only fact -checked the

00:34:35.460 --> 00:34:38.900
first 16. 18. Harboring ill will is a spiritual

00:34:38.900 --> 00:34:42.000
hindrance. I'm going to go Buddhism. We haven't

00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.539
had Buddhism in a while. Yeah, man, and you fucking

00:34:44.539 --> 00:34:49.699
nailed it. Anything that is centered around that

00:34:49.699 --> 00:34:52.900
Indian peninsula, they're all there. They have

00:34:52.900 --> 00:34:55.960
similar language and similar concepts, which

00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:00.039
is why they get along so well. Ha ha ha. Yes.

00:35:00.260 --> 00:35:04.039
Yes. No wars ever. No wars ever. So harboring

00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:05.880
ill wills, spiritual hindrance, that's Buddhism.

00:35:06.019 --> 00:35:11.679
And it is the Dhammapada, verse 5. 19. Impurity

00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:17.239
in thought is as sinful as action. Oh. I'm split.

00:35:17.659 --> 00:35:20.380
I'm into Christianity. And you would be right,

00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.079
Mike. Catholic guilt. Catholic guilt. I knew,

00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:27.619
I knew. This is Matthew 5, 28. I always remember

00:35:27.619 --> 00:35:31.500
my grandfather made a comment that the newspaper

00:35:31.500 --> 00:35:34.519
delivery girl was attractive. Sure. Not necessarily

00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:36.619
inappropriately. He just made mention of it.

00:35:36.619 --> 00:35:39.860
And she was a teenager. Not like driving a car

00:35:39.860 --> 00:35:43.329
teenager. And my grandmother went off on him.

00:35:45.150 --> 00:35:48.929
And they were in their 70s. It's like a passing

00:35:48.929 --> 00:35:52.670
comment. And she lost her cool. And said he was

00:35:52.670 --> 00:35:55.969
going to go to hell. She might not be wrong.

00:35:56.269 --> 00:35:58.130
Well, he was definitely going to go to hell.

00:35:58.190 --> 00:36:00.170
But I don't know what it was for saying the newspaper

00:36:00.170 --> 00:36:03.730
girl was cute. Not for that, but you know. I

00:36:03.730 --> 00:36:07.489
don't know. I don't know, man. There were some

00:36:07.489 --> 00:36:10.389
other old people that I saw quoted somewhere,

00:36:10.550 --> 00:36:14.650
and one of them said that they didn't care where

00:36:14.650 --> 00:36:16.329
the other got their appetite as long as they

00:36:16.329 --> 00:36:19.670
ate at home. Yep. Which I think is fair. I think

00:36:19.670 --> 00:36:22.429
that's pretty reasonable. Yes. Of course, there's

00:36:22.429 --> 00:36:24.269
a lot more than physical appearances that go

00:36:24.269 --> 00:36:31.409
into attraction, or should be. Number 20, and

00:36:31.409 --> 00:36:33.400
then we'll do a score check, Mike. I've lost

00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.880
count now. I stopped counting because I got so

00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:38.019
many wrong. No, but you got just a couple right.

00:36:38.179 --> 00:36:41.019
You just got a couple right. I boosted my score.

00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.559
Yeah. Yep. Huzzah. It's a real feather in your

00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:48.159
cap. All right. Boasting about good deeds diminishes

00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:52.340
their value. Well, I know that's the case in

00:36:52.340 --> 00:36:54.159
Christianity. I'm not sure if those exact words

00:36:54.159 --> 00:37:00.000
are true in Christianity. Okay. I'm going to

00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:03.099
go with Jainism. We haven't had a good Jainism

00:37:03.099 --> 00:37:05.460
in a while, so I'm going to shoot from the hip.

00:37:05.579 --> 00:37:09.360
All right. This one is Islam. The Quran. Surah

00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:15.340
Al -Baqarah 264. So I don't know why everybody

00:37:15.340 --> 00:37:19.360
was claiming credit after 9 -11 then, but that's

00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.059
none of my business. All right. So you don't

00:37:22.059 --> 00:37:31.510
have a... Sips tea silently. So you don't really

00:37:31.510 --> 00:37:33.969
have a score check then? No, no, no. How much

00:37:33.969 --> 00:37:36.409
of your cigar do you have left, Mike? Maybe an

00:37:36.409 --> 00:37:38.230
inch and a half. Maybe an inch. I'm about the

00:37:38.230 --> 00:37:40.730
same. So we can do... Mine's getting sour. Mine's

00:37:40.730 --> 00:37:42.130
getting sour. I'm not going to tell you. It's

00:37:42.130 --> 00:37:44.409
not great. It's not great. Do you think we can

00:37:44.409 --> 00:37:47.909
get to 30? Sure, yeah. We can give it a shot.

00:37:48.110 --> 00:37:50.849
And then I'll put the whole list on our Patreon

00:37:50.849 --> 00:37:53.030
for free. You can just go look it up. All right.

00:37:53.429 --> 00:37:57.579
21. Killing any living being intentionally or

00:37:57.579 --> 00:38:01.539
not is sinful. I'm going to have to go. Well,

00:38:01.619 --> 00:38:05.639
Jainism is any living creature. So it's probably

00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:09.500
not that. I'm going to say Hinduism. You should

00:38:09.500 --> 00:38:11.159
have gone with your gut, Mike. It's Jainism?

00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:14.320
It's Jainism. I know. I almost said when you

00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:15.980
guessed the last one is Jainism. I was like,

00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:17.860
oh, you're one early. But I didn't want to say

00:38:17.860 --> 00:38:19.139
that because that would give the next one away,

00:38:19.260 --> 00:38:25.300
right? My clock is off. Yep. Here, and I set

00:38:25.300 --> 00:38:28.300
all my clocks right away when we sprung forward.

00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:29.739
Does anyone know how much you hate it when you

00:38:29.739 --> 00:38:32.500
see my clocks at my house have been changed?

00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:36.679
Yeah, that's true. That's true. All right, so

00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:43.579
that's Jainism. It's Jain Agamas Ahimsa or something.

00:38:43.860 --> 00:38:45.659
But yeah, so killing any living being intentional

00:38:45.659 --> 00:38:48.000
or not is sinful, which also could be Buddhism

00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.119
because they don't step on ants and stuff like

00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.409
that. When you say being, I think of intelligent

00:38:53.409 --> 00:38:56.530
beings. Well, who's to say ants aren't? They

00:38:56.530 --> 00:38:59.710
don't pay taxes, dude. That is true. That is

00:38:59.710 --> 00:39:03.010
true. If you never file taxes, they can't find

00:39:03.010 --> 00:39:06.510
you. That is also true. If you don't have a social

00:39:06.510 --> 00:39:08.590
security number, they also cannot find you. Well,

00:39:08.750 --> 00:39:12.670
and so if you would have asked me this question,

00:39:12.869 --> 00:39:15.329
I probably would have guessed Buddhism because

00:39:15.329 --> 00:39:18.710
I watched the documentary Monk with a Camera.

00:39:19.179 --> 00:39:21.980
It was very fascinating because it was a photographer

00:39:21.980 --> 00:39:25.219
who went and converted to Buddhism. And you're

00:39:25.219 --> 00:39:27.039
not supposed to have anything of your previous

00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.139
life or whatever. And the Buddhist monk said,

00:39:30.380 --> 00:39:35.440
no, no, you are so good at photography that you

00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.519
need to still do it. But, you know, like a couple

00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:40.000
times a year or something. And they actually

00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:42.980
kept his camera in like a locker and would give

00:39:42.980 --> 00:39:46.730
it to him. go do his photography stuff. So very

00:39:46.730 --> 00:39:49.130
interesting. Cause it kind of is a little bit

00:39:49.130 --> 00:39:52.030
of a dive into Buddhism, but I don't know, also

00:39:52.030 --> 00:39:53.690
tolerance or something. It's a very interesting

00:39:53.690 --> 00:39:55.909
film. So if you want to watch something interesting,

00:39:56.150 --> 00:39:58.309
that's, that's a pretty good one. Have you heard

00:39:58.309 --> 00:40:01.010
of that one? I have not heard of that one. Yeah.

00:40:01.449 --> 00:40:04.929
Pretty interesting stuff. Yeah. All right. Uh,

00:40:05.090 --> 00:40:07.909
this one will fucking kill you, dude. If you

00:40:07.909 --> 00:40:11.780
live in a big city, I definitely do. I live in

00:40:11.780 --> 00:40:15.019
a metropolis. I know you do. I know you do. But

00:40:15.019 --> 00:40:17.139
I do because I see these fuckers on every fucking

00:40:17.139 --> 00:40:21.400
street corner. I read some stuff about how most

00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.460
of the beggars on street corners in cities are

00:40:23.460 --> 00:40:25.539
actually people that have very nice houses in

00:40:25.539 --> 00:40:28.579
the burbs. And they make $30 ,000, $40 ,000 just

00:40:28.579 --> 00:40:31.019
by begging at the street corner. And they don't

00:40:31.019 --> 00:40:32.599
have to go to an office then. And that sounds

00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:33.860
pretty good to me. I think you've been watching

00:40:33.860 --> 00:40:36.440
too much Fox News. Yeah, could be. Could be.

00:40:36.989 --> 00:40:40.710
This one is withholding charity is considered

00:40:40.710 --> 00:40:43.969
a transgression. Islam. So, so quick, but it

00:40:43.969 --> 00:40:49.349
is Judaism. Oh. From the Talmud, Baba Badra 9a,

00:40:49.530 --> 00:40:52.289
which sounds like a math question. Yes, it does.

00:40:52.429 --> 00:40:55.210
Dude, what was your answer for the Baba Badra

00:40:55.210 --> 00:40:58.630
9a? Oh, fuck, you got that? I did not get that.

00:40:58.809 --> 00:41:02.210
Yeah, charity is a big part of most of the religions

00:41:02.210 --> 00:41:04.469
that, for whatever reason - They kind of ignore

00:41:04.469 --> 00:41:07.800
nowadays. Yeah, it's just like - You know, all

00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:10.179
that talk, big talk about being such and such

00:41:10.179 --> 00:41:13.039
nation. And then, you know, yeah, we don't need

00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:14.880
universal health care. And yeah, we don't need

00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.539
to take care of the homeless population and figure

00:41:17.539 --> 00:41:18.960
out what the hell we're going to do about it.

00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:25.539
I saw someone proposed to make homelessness illegal

00:41:25.539 --> 00:41:29.639
except for within 500 feet or 500 yards of a

00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.659
church to try and force the churches to make

00:41:32.659 --> 00:41:35.760
true on their promise. Sure. That's a pretty

00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:37.940
big dick move. I like it, though. I like it.

00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.380
I like it. I mean, they're not paying taxes,

00:41:40.460 --> 00:41:41.980
so let's fucking call them out and make them

00:41:41.980 --> 00:41:45.119
actually do something. All right, 23. Ignoring

00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:50.039
sacred rituals is viewed as a moral lapse. We

00:41:50.039 --> 00:41:52.119
haven't had a Sikhism in a while. I'm going to

00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.679
go straight. Don't do it. Think of the language

00:41:55.679 --> 00:42:00.599
used. Think of the language used. Hinduism. Go

00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:03.300
old -timey. Who's the old -timey one? Is that

00:42:03.300 --> 00:42:07.079
Zoroastrianism? It's going. Going gone. He got

00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:15.260
it right. With enough nudging, you will guess

00:42:15.260 --> 00:42:17.280
the old -timey language of choice. How could

00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.039
he possibly have guessed this one right on the

00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.739
first try? But he did. He did it. It's amazing.

00:42:27.469 --> 00:42:30.690
All right, question 24. Desecrating nature is

00:42:30.690 --> 00:42:34.070
a violation of sacred duty. And you can say Teddy

00:42:34.070 --> 00:42:36.429
Roosevelt, and I would accept it. Yeah, exactly.

00:42:36.889 --> 00:42:41.889
You know what? John Muir. I'm going to say Hinduism.

00:42:41.909 --> 00:42:44.769
We got to stay down lower. Hell yeah, and you're

00:42:44.769 --> 00:42:49.949
right. Rig Veda, 10117. Nailed it. You knew it.

00:42:49.969 --> 00:42:52.590
Teddy. He's the biggest Hindu there ever was.

00:42:52.849 --> 00:42:56.309
I think that's what he said when he, you know,

00:42:56.369 --> 00:42:59.210
christened Mount Rushmore. Oh, I thought it was

00:42:59.210 --> 00:43:05.010
Yosemite, but sure. Rushmore too. 25. Failure

00:43:05.010 --> 00:43:08.250
to meditate or reflect is spiritually harmful.

00:43:08.570 --> 00:43:10.409
And the word meditate should narrow it down to

00:43:10.409 --> 00:43:12.889
about one. Yeah. I mean, I say Buddhism. And

00:43:12.889 --> 00:43:17.280
you'd be right. It's amazing. He's a savant.

00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:22.360
The Buddha is a machination of the... Pat his

00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:27.219
belly and collect your gold. ...desire to be

00:43:27.219 --> 00:43:31.860
viewed as a fat Asian man. Your river's excited.

00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.059
Yeah, she wants to go outside, so I'm going to

00:43:35.059 --> 00:43:37.559
go put her outside. She wanted to pat the Buddha

00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.460
belly, and that's what I thought. He's probably

00:43:40.460 --> 00:43:45.110
out there ready to kick my ass. She was seriously

00:43:45.110 --> 00:43:51.530
unhappy with somebody. Yes. Okay, so next question.

00:43:51.750 --> 00:43:56.349
All right, 26. And this one, we know for a fact

00:43:56.349 --> 00:44:01.110
not one single person in politics, not one single

00:44:01.110 --> 00:44:05.289
CEO, not one single person in power is a follower

00:44:05.289 --> 00:44:09.349
of this faith. The sin is speaking without thinking

00:44:09.349 --> 00:44:13.900
may harm others' spirits. Christianity. No. Not

00:44:13.900 --> 00:44:16.579
one single person in power is a follower of this

00:44:16.579 --> 00:44:25.139
faith. Wow. It's Judaism. I said Christianity

00:44:25.139 --> 00:44:28.059
first because almost every single elected politician

00:44:28.059 --> 00:44:31.280
in this country is a Christian. And I said none

00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:35.260
of them are this religion. And not in a sarcastic

00:44:35.260 --> 00:44:37.539
way, as like literally none of them are. Well,

00:44:37.659 --> 00:44:39.579
it's got to be Zoroastrianism then, because all

00:44:39.579 --> 00:44:42.079
the other guys. No, this is Sikhism, of course.

00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:44.480
I mean, what the fuck, Mike? Come on. Oh, there's

00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:47.940
got to be Sikh politicians, like in England and

00:44:47.940 --> 00:44:51.300
certainly in India. This country, Mike. This

00:44:51.300 --> 00:44:53.320
country is probably, you know what? I'm going

00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:57.380
to Google the show. Take a drink. And find the

00:44:57.380 --> 00:45:02.300
one mayor in wherever, rural Connecticut. That's

00:45:02.300 --> 00:45:06.929
a Sikh. Yeah, maybe. There's got to be one guy

00:45:06.929 --> 00:45:09.409
who's on the city council. Find him or her. One

00:45:09.409 --> 00:45:11.369
person. Or they or them. Find them right now.

00:45:11.750 --> 00:45:14.389
All right. So next question. I am going to look

00:45:14.389 --> 00:45:18.090
too. Sure. I believe you. Question 27. Greed

00:45:18.090 --> 00:45:23.230
in food consumption violates balance. That seems

00:45:23.230 --> 00:45:26.510
like it could be all of them. Yeah, but I mean,

00:45:26.510 --> 00:45:29.289
think of the wording, man. It's like greed in

00:45:29.289 --> 00:45:32.409
food consumption. It's such a weird. But it's

00:45:32.409 --> 00:45:34.769
not as old -timey as some of the other ones.

00:45:34.949 --> 00:45:39.769
Not that I'm giving you hints. I am going to

00:45:39.769 --> 00:45:42.090
go with Jainism. We haven't had a good Jainism

00:45:42.090 --> 00:45:44.929
in a while. And again, your internal clock is

00:45:44.929 --> 00:45:48.510
off by two. But this one is Islam, the Quran,

00:45:48.809 --> 00:45:53.730
Surah Taha, 2081. I don't know. I guess I've

00:45:53.730 --> 00:45:58.030
never seen an overweight Muslim. What about the

00:45:58.030 --> 00:46:03.469
Sultan of Agrabah? From Aladdin? Yeah. Well,

00:46:03.530 --> 00:46:05.909
he loves his daughter, though, which is weird

00:46:05.909 --> 00:46:13.789
for Muslims. It is fucking not. Don't fight me

00:46:13.789 --> 00:46:21.110
on this. I know what I'm about. I thought this

00:46:21.110 --> 00:46:32.960
was going to be a sponsor -friendly show. Holy

00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.639
God. Or holy Allah, whatever. Whatever, dude.

00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:45.820
I don't care. I thought I stressed fun above

00:46:45.820 --> 00:46:48.440
all. And if fun is not family friendly, then

00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:51.820
fuck off, I guess. I don't know. Well, I hate

00:46:51.820 --> 00:46:53.920
to say this, Nate, but I have a correction for

00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.099
the show. Okay, okay, okay. We've had two U .S.

00:46:57.139 --> 00:47:02.480
elected Sikh politicians. One was a U .S. congressman

00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.300
named Dalip Singh Sound, and he was the first

00:47:06.300 --> 00:47:10.519
Sikh elected to Congress. He was 57 to 63. He's

00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:12.639
also the first Asian American and the first Indian

00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:14.940
American to serve in Congress. There you go.

00:47:15.019 --> 00:47:18.000
And then apparently New Jersey has a Sikh mayor

00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:22.059
named Ravinder Balia. All right. Well, that's

00:47:22.059 --> 00:47:24.300
good. I think that's good. Yeah, yeah. There

00:47:24.300 --> 00:47:28.039
we go. Apparently Mr. Sound was active until

00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.610
1973. Okay. And he died. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:47:31.809 --> 00:47:35.690
It went down to the Sikh Great Beyond. Sikh Hall

00:47:35.690 --> 00:47:39.010
of Fame. Sikh Hall of Fame. That's the one. This

00:47:39.010 --> 00:47:41.130
next one you're going to get. I just know it.

00:47:41.190 --> 00:47:44.210
I just know it. Dishonoring one's parents is

00:47:44.210 --> 00:47:47.170
a moral fault. Oh, that's got to be Islam. Got

00:47:47.170 --> 00:47:49.130
to be. It's got the dishonor. There's like a

00:47:49.130 --> 00:47:51.170
lot of the trigger words. A lot of the trigger

00:47:51.170 --> 00:47:54.769
words. This is Christianity. It's one of the

00:47:54.769 --> 00:47:57.289
Ten Commandments. Well, honor thy father and

00:47:57.289 --> 00:47:59.869
mother, but that's also Judaism. Yeah, and it's

00:47:59.869 --> 00:48:02.630
also all of them, but they still fight. This

00:48:02.630 --> 00:48:06.469
is Exodus 2012. See, there we go. I actually

00:48:06.469 --> 00:48:08.849
got into a spat, Mike. I don't know if you believe

00:48:08.849 --> 00:48:12.949
this. This is pre -high school. Yeah, I love

00:48:12.949 --> 00:48:15.329
authority, and they're great, I guess. I got

00:48:15.329 --> 00:48:18.190
into a spat with my minister pre -high school.

00:48:18.769 --> 00:48:21.469
He actually ended up diddling the secretary.

00:48:22.989 --> 00:48:25.489
Not a great person. But, you know, his daughter

00:48:25.489 --> 00:48:28.150
was in my grade and everything. And he was a

00:48:28.150 --> 00:48:31.170
very engaging preacher because he did one and

00:48:31.170 --> 00:48:33.550
he like did a flip out of the pulpit, which I'll

00:48:33.550 --> 00:48:36.070
still remember probably until I die, hopefully.

00:48:36.210 --> 00:48:38.630
But he still was, you know, like fucking the

00:48:38.630 --> 00:48:42.110
secretary and whatnot. Anyway, I told him that

00:48:42.110 --> 00:48:45.949
Jesus sinned because when his parents brought

00:48:45.949 --> 00:48:48.820
him to the temple. And then they left and he

00:48:48.820 --> 00:48:51.099
didn't leave with them. And he hid and stayed

00:48:51.099 --> 00:48:52.599
with the temple because he wanted to be closer

00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:56.079
to his actual father, right? And I said, well,

00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:58.780
Jesus sinned. And the pastor was like, what are

00:48:58.780 --> 00:49:01.079
you talking about? Jesus is without sin. I said,

00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:03.300
well, no, like his parents had to come back to

00:49:03.300 --> 00:49:05.800
find him. And he was talking with the priests

00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:09.199
and things at the temple. And he was like, well,

00:49:09.219 --> 00:49:13.420
no, Jesus is the son of God and his father is

00:49:13.420 --> 00:49:15.599
God. And I said, well, the Bible says we're all

00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.380
children of God. But we have to obey our earthly

00:49:18.380 --> 00:49:21.400
mothers and fathers. And aren't Joseph and Mary

00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.840
Jesus' earthly mothers and fathers? And then

00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:26.059
you know what he did? He fucked the church secretary

00:49:26.059 --> 00:49:31.239
is what he did. Okay. When you said fondled,

00:49:31.300 --> 00:49:34.460
I was thinking Ronald McDonald, not like banging

00:49:34.460 --> 00:49:42.039
secretary. Let's do separate things. Anyway,

00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:48.300
29. Exploiting animals. Holy fuck. Should have

00:49:48.300 --> 00:49:51.039
read this one before right now. Exploiting animals

00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:58.440
for pleasure is a spiritual offense. I don't

00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:06.800
know, man. I don't know. I don't know. Don't

00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:13.159
tell Morgan. Don't tell Morgan. That sounds like

00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:16.119
a good idea across the board. Well, it's not

00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:22.920
Islam. We know that. Oh, man. I'm going to say

00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:29.019
Hinduism. That can't be Hinduism, though. I told

00:50:29.019 --> 00:50:31.500
you what it was. Two ago, you made a guess, and

00:50:31.500 --> 00:50:34.000
I said two from now. You'll be right. Your clock

00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.099
will be right. Yeah. Jainism. That's Jainism.

00:50:37.500 --> 00:50:41.079
Don't fuck the animals, kids. I don't think that's

00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:49.539
what it meant originally. I wanted to meet that

00:50:49.539 --> 00:50:54.380
so bad. It has to, man. Exploiting animals for

00:50:54.380 --> 00:50:57.960
pleasure is a spiritual offense. Don't fuck the

00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:01.480
animals. Don't fuck the livestock. Gack fighting.

00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:07.050
Or what, riding horses? I don't know. Potentially

00:51:07.050 --> 00:51:09.030
riding horses, using them as beasts of burden,

00:51:09.170 --> 00:51:17.210
dog racing. Sure, Mike. Sure. That's what I want

00:51:17.210 --> 00:51:19.769
it to be about. All right. The 30th question,

00:51:20.030 --> 00:51:22.110
and I think that's where we're going to end because

00:51:22.110 --> 00:51:25.170
my cigar is about done and I'm not digging it

00:51:25.170 --> 00:51:27.590
anymore. Are you good with that, Mike? I'm good.

00:51:27.630 --> 00:51:29.489
I'm already done. I just put mine down. Sure.

00:51:29.590 --> 00:51:31.409
Okay. Well, 30, and then we'll be done. We'll

00:51:31.409 --> 00:51:33.510
give our final thoughts. Failing to protect the

00:51:33.510 --> 00:51:39.230
weak is sinful. Ooh. Ooh. Sikhism. They have

00:51:39.230 --> 00:51:41.130
a big honor culture, so I'm going to guess. And

00:51:41.130 --> 00:51:43.789
you'd be wrong. Well, you might be right, but

00:51:43.789 --> 00:51:49.190
this is Hinduism. The Manus Mitri 8118. Very

00:51:49.190 --> 00:51:51.449
interesting that the Hindus who have a rigid

00:51:51.449 --> 00:51:54.300
caste system, let's say that exploiting. The

00:51:54.300 --> 00:52:00.280
weak is bad or whatever. Yeah. Well, we could

00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:03.239
say a lot of the same things about, you know,

00:52:03.260 --> 00:52:06.019
Christians. For sure. A lot of the stuff, you

00:52:06.019 --> 00:52:09.500
know, Jesus taught is in direct violation, let's

00:52:09.500 --> 00:52:13.119
say, of current actions by a lot of people that

00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:16.059
claim to be Christian. Oh, Jesus was a chill

00:52:16.059 --> 00:52:19.900
cat. Definitely hang with that guy. But his buddies

00:52:19.900 --> 00:52:23.780
sometimes aren't to my liking. Thanks for the

00:52:23.780 --> 00:52:25.960
tough crowd. Yeah, I mean, you can't really fault

00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:29.480
Judas, though, because he gave us the four -day

00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:33.679
Easter weekend. So not at all, not bad, 100%.

00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:36.280
Well, 50 pieces of silver. I mean, it's hard

00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:38.380
to say no. Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not gay,

00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.579
but 50 pieces of silver. There's 50 pieces of

00:52:40.579 --> 00:52:42.559
silver. I'll kiss Jesus in the cheek all day

00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:47.079
long for that. Blasphemer. Now we're going to

00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.340
get the halal market to sponsor this episode,

00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:51.860
you know? Well, there's still time. There's still

00:52:51.860 --> 00:52:54.280
time. We can make amends. We can make amends.

00:52:55.340 --> 00:52:58.320
Reparations. I'll give them all the cash in my

00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:00.699
wallet to make amends. You know what? Right now,

00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:02.780
I will give them all the cash in my wallet that

00:53:02.780 --> 00:53:05.940
I have right now. Yes, me too. 100%. Mine is

00:53:05.940 --> 00:53:09.019
zero because I gave my cash to someone else.

00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:14.340
Mine is also zero. I thought so, Mike. I thought

00:53:14.340 --> 00:53:17.639
so. Well, Dan, our drug dealer, is very happy

00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:19.559
because we gave him all the cash in our wallets.

00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:22.119
And that's why we had so much fun this episode.

00:53:22.590 --> 00:53:24.889
That's right. That's why he gets to wear the

00:53:24.889 --> 00:53:26.989
brand new NASCAR t -shirts or his girlfriend

00:53:26.989 --> 00:53:28.989
gets to wear the brand new NASCAR t -shirt now.

00:53:29.130 --> 00:53:31.510
Yeah. Well, and he's going to save up for a new

00:53:31.510 --> 00:53:34.730
TV because his wife threw the remote through

00:53:34.730 --> 00:53:37.750
the old one and can't watch the old NASCAR if

00:53:37.750 --> 00:53:40.610
you don't have a new TV. So we're all pulling

00:53:40.610 --> 00:53:43.769
for Dan and his wife, of course, to be less abusive,

00:53:43.889 --> 00:53:46.650
but small steps. Small steps. Everybody's waiting.

00:53:46.889 --> 00:53:51.159
Everybody's waiting. He got what he deserved

00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:53.420
for making everybody wait. Yeah, I know. Yeah,

00:53:53.500 --> 00:53:55.400
yeah. I mean, that's the biggest sin of all,

00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:58.280
right? That's the takeaway from this episode

00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.199
is making other people wait is right out, right

00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:03.559
out. Everything else we can talk about, but making

00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:06.239
other people wait, right out. It's garbage. Yeah.

00:54:06.579 --> 00:54:10.019
So what did you rate this cigar, Mike? I think

00:54:10.019 --> 00:54:12.780
I rated it a one and a half. If I'm not mistaken.

00:54:12.780 --> 00:54:15.260
No, 175. That's what I put. Same as the last

00:54:15.260 --> 00:54:18.300
one. Oh, same as the last one. Yeah. All right.

00:54:18.300 --> 00:54:20.679
I'm going to give this one a... I'm just going

00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:23.159
to give it a 175. And I gave the last one a 1

00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:28.300
.5. Because this one was moderately better than

00:54:28.300 --> 00:54:31.800
the last one. The last one was acetone aftertaste

00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.460
most of the way through. And this one didn't

00:54:34.460 --> 00:54:36.460
get bad until the end. And then like the end

00:54:36.460 --> 00:54:39.079
that was in my mouth kind of like started falling

00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:43.099
apart. So it's not entirely pleasant, but I felt

00:54:43.099 --> 00:54:45.599
like it was more enjoyable than the last one.

00:54:45.699 --> 00:54:48.380
So I'd rather smoke this one than the last one.

00:54:48.659 --> 00:54:52.099
The reason why I rated it the same is because

00:54:52.099 --> 00:54:55.219
the middle section was better. Yep. But the end

00:54:55.219 --> 00:54:57.679
was a little worse for me and the beginning was

00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:01.460
about the same. So I was like, well. If the ending

00:55:01.460 --> 00:55:03.940
was better, then it would have been a two, but

00:55:03.940 --> 00:55:07.500
it just didn't hold up. Yeah, and the end here

00:55:07.500 --> 00:55:09.699
was, for me, it was better than the last one,

00:55:09.739 --> 00:55:10.920
and I don't know if I smoked the last one too

00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.280
fast, or I just, you know. I mean, it's tough

00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:16.380
to say, really, in the grand scheme of things,

00:55:16.539 --> 00:55:20.559
tastes and preferences and smoking speeds and

00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:22.800
all that, but this one was a little bit better

00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:24.860
than the last one. Like, this one I would actually...

00:55:25.279 --> 00:55:28.639
not be opposed to smoking again. But the other

00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:31.360
one, I don't, I would not really be a huge fan

00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:34.039
of smoking it again. I mean, if we have more

00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.780
of them, I will try it as a tequila cigar, but

00:55:36.780 --> 00:55:39.619
smoking it straight as is, I likely will not

00:55:39.619 --> 00:55:41.340
do again. So that was kind of the difference

00:55:41.340 --> 00:55:44.139
in mind. Like the Chillin' Moose 2, I could,

00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:45.820
I could, you know, if somebody's like, oh, I

00:55:45.820 --> 00:55:47.639
got a whole, I got a bundle of these, let's smoke

00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:50.300
some. I'd be like, yeah, okay, sure. I'll do

00:55:50.300 --> 00:55:53.760
it. But yeah, the first one, the Chillin' Moose

00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:56.380
original OG. I don't know. I'd be hard pressed

00:55:56.380 --> 00:55:59.420
to do it again. Not as a tequila cigar. I would

00:55:59.420 --> 00:56:02.539
do it again. Like I say, like go paddle fishing

00:56:02.539 --> 00:56:06.440
next to the fire on the side of the water. Yeah.

00:56:06.460 --> 00:56:08.519
That sort of thing where it's like it's something

00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:11.179
to smoke when you're doing something else in

00:56:11.179 --> 00:56:13.739
a dirty environment where it's like you're not

00:56:13.739 --> 00:56:16.420
going to smoke a fine cigar under those conditions.

00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:18.960
But you want a cigar that's not a Swisher Sweet.

00:56:19.289 --> 00:56:22.269
This is exactly what it is. Yeah, but like you

00:56:22.269 --> 00:56:25.670
said last episode, though, for the price point,

00:56:25.889 --> 00:56:29.610
there's better things to smoke for as cheap or

00:56:29.610 --> 00:56:34.190
cheaper. Oh, the edges are a great example. Like

00:56:34.190 --> 00:56:37.289
you mentioned, the factory smokes, great example.

00:56:37.710 --> 00:56:40.230
There's a lot of options out there. Yeah, there's

00:56:40.230 --> 00:56:42.949
a lot of options, and I guess I just felt like

00:56:42.949 --> 00:56:45.750
the Chillin' Moose 2 was slightly better than

00:56:45.750 --> 00:56:48.760
the Chillin' Moose. Everybody's got their own

00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:52.440
different tastes and preferences, and I'd be

00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:55.340
hard -pressed personally to smoke a regular Chillin'

00:56:55.340 --> 00:56:59.000
Moose without tequila. So that's why I rated

00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:00.440
this one a little bit higher, because this one

00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:03.739
I could actually smoke as is and be okay about

00:57:03.739 --> 00:57:05.860
it. I wouldn't necessarily be the happiest person,

00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:08.800
but I'd be okay about it. I mean, I would definitely

00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.400
put tequila on both. If I was going to smoke

00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:15.119
it in an inside place where we have liquor, it's

00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:17.280
going to have tequila on it for sure. I mean,

00:57:17.340 --> 00:57:20.139
to be honest, if somebody says, I got a fuck

00:57:20.139 --> 00:57:22.260
ton of tequila and I got some cigars that may

00:57:22.260 --> 00:57:24.119
or may not be good, you just want to put tequila

00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:27.079
on them and smoke them? I mean, I'm down. Let's

00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:29.659
do it. But that's a different vibe than having

00:57:29.659 --> 00:57:33.300
a thoughtful conversation in my campfire with

00:57:33.300 --> 00:57:38.000
a good smoke. So a little different motive, I

00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:41.380
guess. Right. Yeah, this is a drink light beer

00:57:41.380 --> 00:57:46.820
by a campfire and smoke a cigar. Yeah, yep. For

00:57:46.820 --> 00:57:50.760
sure. So bust out the, what is it, Michelob Ultras.

00:57:51.059 --> 00:57:54.760
Yep. Or the Natterdays. I think like a Natterday

00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:56.559
would be a good pairing with this because you

00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:58.260
got a little bit of the sweetness from the beer

00:57:58.260 --> 00:58:00.960
and then you got the cigar, which this one was

00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:05.000
a little bit darker, a little spicy in the, you

00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.500
know, I don't know, one third to the three quarters

00:58:07.500 --> 00:58:09.980
mark. I know that's going to be tough for Americans

00:58:09.980 --> 00:58:11.760
because they don't understand the fractions,

00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:16.789
but. Yes, three -eighths, three -quarters. Three

00:58:16.789 --> 00:58:19.690
-eighths is clearly bigger by twice. Yeah, eight

00:58:19.690 --> 00:58:25.150
is bigger than four. So, yeah, I think that's

00:58:25.150 --> 00:58:28.429
all I have to say about that cigar. I don't recommend

00:58:28.429 --> 00:58:32.230
it. Either one, really. No, not really. The labels

00:58:32.230 --> 00:58:35.769
are cool. They might be fine as tequila cigars.

00:58:35.809 --> 00:58:38.269
Or, you know, if you just, if you stumble upon

00:58:38.269 --> 00:58:40.929
them and they're absolutely dirt cheap, like

00:58:40.929 --> 00:58:44.719
almost giving them away, that's fine. But there's

00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:48.519
so many other good cigars for very little cost

00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:52.000
that are a much better smoke than these. But,

00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:54.800
you know, again, if they're at a place and you

00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:56.440
see them and you want to pick one up to try it,

00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:59.139
it's not necessarily going to be a bad smoke,

00:58:59.300 --> 00:59:02.000
you know, by and large. But it might not be entirely

00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:05.320
enjoyable. But yeah, I can't really recommend

00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.699
it. But if you're tempted and want to try it,

00:59:07.739 --> 00:59:10.059
what are you out? A couple dollars. It's not

00:59:10.059 --> 00:59:13.340
a big commitment there, so. You can always put

00:59:13.340 --> 00:59:14.960
it out, toss it out, throw it out, whatever.

00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.300
I think Mike did better than he thinks he did

00:59:17.300 --> 00:59:20.320
on the sin guessing game. Again, all of these

00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:22.400
will be over on our Patreon for free. You just

00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:24.559
go over there and you can check out all the questions

00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:27.800
and answers. And yeah, thanks for listening.

00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:28.900
Be safe, have fun.
