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Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Nate.

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And I'm Mike.

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What are we smoking today, Nate?

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We are smoking, and I don't think I've ever smoked an Espinosa cigar before.

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But this is no regular Espinosa cigar.

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This is The Dude.

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And I should mention that this is a sponsor stick cigar from one of our listeners, Matt.

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So he provided us with two of The Dudes.

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And we thought, gee, we just came off a bowling episode or a heavily themed bowling episode

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with Jordan.

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And Mike just couldn't resist, we had to do two in a row.

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So we're going to do The Dude by Espinosa and talk about the big Lebowski and also probably

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the movie starring Maude Lebowski, Gutterball.

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Yeah.

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I should also mention Mike and I had a little bit of a picture photo contest with each other

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and for the episode's cover art.

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And I'm not sure which way we're going to lean.

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Mike's pictures are phenomenal.

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However, they don't feature the cigars prominently as mine.

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So we'll see which one we end up going with.

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But they'll both be on Instagram.

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So check out the Instagram will have all the pictures that were not all the pictures that

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were taken, but the highlights from the photo contest that we did informally.

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And there is no winner because we're winning if we get to smoke a cigar and drink.

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Speaking of drinks, Mike, what are you pairing your cigar with?

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Well, I have a refreshing glass of ice water as well as a Caucasian.

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How about you, Nate?

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I have a double Caucasian because I wasn't about to bring my little mixing bar out to

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the garage.

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So I just poured a double.

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But it's also known in some circles, I don't know these circles, but some circles it's

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also known as a white Russian.

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Yes.

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I would also like to say for those who are looking at the pictures, it is the exact same

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one that I had in the pictures is the one I'm having right now.

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For those of you looking at the pictures, the white Russian in my picture is not actually

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a white Russian.

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It's a bit of leftover coffee and water and then the splash of cream and a couple ice

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cubes because I took my picture earlier in the day to get the light.

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So I wasn't about to slam a white Russian on the clock, if you know what I mean.

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Yes.

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I took my pictures after I was done with work.

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I took mine while on a conference call.

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So what do you do?

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But you get to see one of Mike's bowling balls and my bowling ball, I only have the one.

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But both of our rugs and dare I say it, Mike, our rugs are eerily kind of similar with the

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vibe.

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You know what I mean?

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Yes.

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I picked, we have several rugs and I picked the one that looked the most like the Big

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Lebowski rug.

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We have the one rug that's like in a pot, you know, like folded up because we're not

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sure what we're going to do with it yet.

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So I grabbed that one.

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First couple puffs.

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This is a spicy stick, man.

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Yes.

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It's interesting because it's very light, but it has a lot of depth to it.

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Yes.

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So I'm going to take out my first sip of my Caucasian and see how that affects it.

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I think it's going to be a good pairing with the white Russian and the cigar.

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I'm sure the people at Espinosa took that into consideration.

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When making a dude themed cigar, what are people who like the Big Lebowski going to

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be pairing this with?

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That is actually a pretty good pairing.

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That's a W for them.

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Yeah.

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That's it.

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Call the episode.

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Big W. Thanks for listening, everybody.

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Yeah, so it was fun because we talked about doing this and we've had the cigar for a little

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bit now, a few months, I suppose, or a month.

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I don't know.

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It's hard to remember.

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And I was really looking forward to revisiting the Big Lebowski because I've seen it many,

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many times, but I just haven't seen it recently until watching it again for this episode.

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We, Sarah and I watched it two years ago, so it was a little fresher in the memory.

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Usually, I don't watch movies critically, which I do for the show.

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It's a different experience.

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Yeah, but also it's the Big Lebowski, so I wasn't being super critical about it, but

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I was trying to pay attention so I'd have things to talk about outside of all the catchphrases

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and things, which are awesome by the by.

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Oh, yeah.

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I did partake in some festivities when I watched it, so I wanted to be in the right frame of

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Well, that's like your opinion, man.

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That is a great line.

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Oh, my.

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That is like legit.

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I love how he's like mostly like nonplussed about everything that's happening, except

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maybe like the ferret in the tub.

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The ferret in the tub definitely harrasses vibe.

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Also pissing on his rug.

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He was more angry about pissing on his rug than almost anything else.

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And he was angry about Walter pulling out his pistol.

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He was pretty mad about that, too.

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He was a little upset about that.

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And the toe, when the toe showed up.

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Yeah, he was concerned.

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So how do we want to open this up?

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I mean, well, I was going to do, I was going to suggest we both take pictures in like bathrobes.

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Then I didn't really want to get my bathrobe all, you know, cigar smelly and have to wash

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it again.

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So I kind of didn't do that.

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But that's, I mean, outside of the narration from Sam Elliott, that's pretty much how it

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starts is he's like in his bathrobe getting half and half or heavy cream or something.

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I put heavy cream in mine.

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He did in fact buy half and half.

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That's why I bought half and half.

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Yes.

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I bought heavy cream because that's what the internet told me.

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I will say though, on a personal note, I much prefer the black Russians just because I think

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the cream is a little too much typically.

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But again, the cream really sweetens this up and makes it pair with this cigar very,

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very nicely.

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It's a vodka based Kahlua and it is boozy for sure.

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I got a, I think it's rum based.

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It's also boozy.

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But I poured a double and then I think, I think we'll be good by the time we get to the end

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of this episode.

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I have to like not drink this too quickly because white Russians are easy to pour down

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the old gullet there.

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So.

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They're definitely headache makers.

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Yes.

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A headache for the guy editing the episode later makers for sure.

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I guess like, I don't know what you would even kind of call the Big Lebowski.

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It's almost like a fairy tale kind of, you know, the way the Sam Elliott, the narrator

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kind of pops in and out.

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It's almost like a detective story that has comedic elements and also fantasy elements

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for sure.

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And it's kind of, it's almost like a slice of life maybe, you know, of like that generation,

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you know?

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But yeah, I mean, so it starts, it kicks off the bat pretty quickly.

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I mean, you get the narration, then he's shopping for his half and half.

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And then I think it's right then when he comes home, the rod gets peed on.

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It is.

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Right away.

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And then he's going around to get going, which is nice.

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And the whole confusion for those who haven't seen it is Jeff.

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Jeff Lebowski.

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Sorry, Jeff Bridges, the actor is playing Jeff Lebowski, but there's another Jeff Lebowski

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and the Jeff Bridges character goes by the dude or the deuterino and various other forms

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of that.

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His dude-ness.

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His dude-ness.

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And these goons are trying to shake down Jeff Lebowski, who is not the dude Lebowski.

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So the name of the movie, The Big Lebowski comes from the wealthier Lebowski, the one

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who is not living in a shithole apartment that people could break the door down in quite

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easily.

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So then he goes to seek retribution for the rug being peed on because obviously you can't

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have that anymore.

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Because his bowling team convinced him it was a good idea to go seek money for the rug

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getting pissed on instead of just cleaning the rug.

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And it wasn't really his bowling team.

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It was Walter, John Goodman, who convinced him, who's a Vietnam vet, and a Jew because

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his ex-wife had him convert to Judaism.

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He doesn't roll on Shabbos.

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No, he does not roll on Shabbos.

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But yeah, so I think if you watch the first time when he's telling Walter and Donnie,

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and Donnie's played by Steve Buscemi, and he's telling them and Walter convinces the

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dude to go and seek retribution for his rug because obviously the Big Lebowski has money

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if he's being shaken down for money.

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So that was kind of the thought process.

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That's so funny.

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That's so good.

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It is.

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Well, it's ridiculous on the face, but the nihilists, there's three nihilists, and these

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are the guys that beat his door down.

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Well, we don't even know if they're nihilists.

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We know that they're nihilists because they say they're nihilists later in the film.

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That's actually their character name if you look at the list of characters.

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So nihilist one is one of the guys from Fargo, Steve Buscemi's partner in crime.

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I think he's like a Shakespearean, Northern European actor of some variety.

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And then the nihilist number two is Flea.

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Yeah, Flea.

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And then nihilist three is like some random guy.

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I don't know.

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I mean, probably not random, but somebody that Mike and I are not as well aware of or

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well acquainted with as the other two.

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But yeah, so basically it just kind of follows all the events that happened because the rug

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got peed on and because Walter convinced the dude to try and find the other Lebowski to

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get a new rug.

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And Philip Seymour Hoffman is the big Lebowski's personal attendant or something or like butler

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or housekeeper.

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Secretary, yeah.

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Whatever.

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Some kind of administrative role.

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The big Lebowski is in a wheelchair, disabled.

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Because that was one of the funny lines when he's looking at all the pictures on the wall,

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Philip Seymour Hoffman showing the dude all these awards that the big Lebowski has won

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and he was like, oh, is he disabled?

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Yes, he is disabled.

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They have a couple inappropriate jokes in the film.

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It is rated R.

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As you would expect from this comedy team.

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They also continue their trope of Steve Buscemi's character dying and being in smaller pieces

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than the previous film.

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So.

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But we'll get to that in a bit.

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But then on his way out, he basically gets called a loser by the big Lebowski because

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he doesn't have a job.

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He shows up wearing his everyday clothes that the dude wears, which is some variation of

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like a sweater or cardigan or bathrobe and these really funky looking sandal things.

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Jellies.

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Jellies.

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Jellies.

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And I knew Mike would know.

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I did know, sadly enough.

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And so he kind of gets a dressing down by the big Lebowski because of course he's like

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in a suit and tie and he's like, I worked for all my stuff in my life.

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And so on the way out, he meets the big Lebowski's wife, who is got to be what?

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40 years his junior.

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So his wife is played by Tara Reed and this is Tara Reed circa 1998, Tara Reed.

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So she's in her early 20s, I'm guessing.

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And the big Lebowski's supposed to be in his 60s.

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And Bunny, fun fact, is from Moorhead, Minnesota.

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We find out later.

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Which plays in because she offers to suck the dude's dick for a thousand bucks.

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Immediately.

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Right upon meeting.

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Well, actually first she wanted him to blow on her toes.

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That is true.

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Toe nails, which is excellent foreshadowing because they use the same color paint on the

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toenail of the toe they send to the dude or the big Lebowski, whoever ends up getting

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it initially.

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But it winds up with the dude is the point.

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And it has the same shade that Bunny was painting on, which led the dude to believe it was Bunny's

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toe and Walter wasn't buying it.

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But that comes a little bit later in the film.

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So she's already trying to be overtly sexual to any man that isn't her husband, basically.

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Oh, and she had a higher fee if Philip Seymour Hoffman's character watches.

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Because her suck the dude's dick.

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What did he say to her?

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He goes, well, let me just go find the deer's cash machine.

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Yep.

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Something like that.

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Of course, he doesn't have it.

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And I don't know how many people like, it's not really a part of the movie that you remember,

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but the dude's landlord comes by in the middle of this or in some part of this film earlier

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on and is like, hey, you don't even know he's the landlord yet.

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He's asking if the dude will come see his interpretive dance performance.

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He's like, yeah, my dance performance is, and the dude's like, yeah, I'll come see it,

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man.

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And then he goes, oh, and by the way, rent.

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So obviously the dude doesn't have the thousand bucks or whatever it is to have Bunny suck

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his dick.

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No.

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Which I think we know before he goes over there or something, right?

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Oh, we definitely knew.

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He had like a 1970s Cadillac maybe.

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And he wrote a check for like 62 cents for his half and half.

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Yes, he did.

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I forgot about that.

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Oh my.

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Can't even write checks hardly anymore, which is fine by me.

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Oh, I still write checks all the time.

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Too much writing all the time.

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Oh, you know, literacy, it's bad.

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Just plug me into the big Nero link and let me scan my noggin to pay.

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Anyway, we're not talking about Nero link.

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We're talking about the big Lebowski.

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Where do you want to go from there, man?

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I guess Bunny gets kidnapped or the big Lebowski believes Bunny gets kidnapped.

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They believe that she gets kidnapped and then he receives a ransom note for a million dollars.

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Now, this is the first clue that something's going on because the big Lebowski finds our

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friend the dude and convinces him to hand over the million dollars for a finder's fee,

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which was 20 grand, I think.

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Something like that.

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Yeah, something like 10% of it.

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So it was not a small chunk of change, but not a small chunk of change for the dude.

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But you know, you would think.

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It was worth it for the dude.

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And probably only the dude.

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And only the dude.

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So he shares this information with his bowling team and Walter, the thorn in everybody's

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side.

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Is he wrong, though?

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Is he wrong?

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No, he's not wrong.

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He's not wrong.

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Walter is convinced that Bunny kidnapped herself and that it's all bullshit and that anybody

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could have cut a pinky toe off and that he's like, you want a pinky toe?

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I can get your pinky toe by this afternoon.

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So he fucks up the money transfer.

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And of course, the guys, the nihilists run away with the money, which I suppose we don't

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really know that they're the ones doing it yet.

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No, but everybody kind of assumed it was.

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Yeah, everybody assumed it was.

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Some new shit has come to light, man.

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You're not privy on the new shit.

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No, but that's kind of the whole thing is like Walter has, oh fuck, what does he call

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the other bag?

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The bag with like his dirty underwear in it.

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It makes a bag with dirty underwear and they're going to throw that out the window instead

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of the real bag.

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And they end up throwing the fake one out, I thought.

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They did.

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They threw the fake one out, but they never checked what was in the real bag.

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No, because it was in the trunk and then his car got stolen or something.

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His car got stolen by a 15-year-old.

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Yeah, for a joyride.

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For a joyride.

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Some homeless man used it for a bathroom or something when he picked it up at the, he

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impound lot.

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The thing was gone, but nobody was overly concerned about that.

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And so they came to realize that what was in the original one was also fake, like newspapers

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or phone books or something.

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Right.

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Well, they came to that conclusion because the dude was kidnapped again by Maude Lebowski,

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the daughter of the big Lebowski.

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The daughter of the big Lebowski, who's still got to be 10 years or more Bunny Lebowski's

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senior, right?

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Because they even mentioned that somewhere in the film.

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I don't remember how much older, but it's Julianne Moore.

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Yeah, Julianne Moore is in real life is older than Tara Reid by 10 to 15 years.

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And she's the one playing Maude Lebowski.

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Yeah, she's the one playing Maude.

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Fun fact, one of Maude's buddies was the actor that played Remus Lupin.

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He was the filmmaker that laughed, kept on laughing for no reason.

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Oh, sure.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That was hilarious.

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Oh my God.

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What a great introductory scene where the dude is there and he's walking down this dimly

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lit hallway and there's a big kind of canvas propped up kind of on the floor.

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And then there's like screams and Maude's like naked with paint coming over him on a

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zip line.

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Yeah.

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So she's clearly a weirdo.

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Well, yeah, I don't know that there's anyone in here that's not a weirdo.

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But we should mention though, well, all this is happening.

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So the dude's in all of this stuff, right?

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But also the dude, Donnie and Walter, their bowling team made like the playoffs or the

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finals or something.

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They're in the playoffs.

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Yeah, yeah.

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They're in the playoffs.

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Yeah.

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And so this whole time, Walter is mildly intrigued by the rug, the kidnapping and all of this.

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But even when the dude gets really like worked up, he's like, well, you're still going to

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make it to league, right?

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So that's really like Walter's focus in this whole film is I'm interested in this like

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side stuff as long as it doesn't interfere with league.

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As long as it doesn't interfere with bowling.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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And then the dude is like, dude, why do you even have that thing here, man?

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Like it was my ex-wife, why can't she board it?

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Like why do you have your ex-wife's?

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And then, you know, when he was saying he doesn't roll on Chavez, he had to, he made

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the league change their playoff game because it was on a Saturday and he doesn't roll on

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Chavez.

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And they're kind of like arch-nemesis bowler Jesus.

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It was like, oh my God, what's the deal and stuff.

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And he was a pedophile.

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Well, I wanted to bring this up.

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Was he really?

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Because it was one of the fantasy scenes and it was brought to you by Walter.

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So it's not a reliable narrator.

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Is he wrong?

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I don't know.

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He's never really wrong about anything that he says.

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He's never really wrong.

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He's crass about it.

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He's not polite about it, but he's not really ever wrong because it turns out that the toe

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wasn't from Bunny.

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It was from one of the nihilists.

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One of the nihilist's girlfriend or a female nihilist, whatever you want to call her.

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Yeah.

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I don't know that nihilists have significant others if nothing is significant.

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Right.

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So, oh, we also missed that the dude is kind of racist because he called somebody a Chinaman

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and Walter had to correct him.

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And one of the best lines ever was, Walter, man, I'm not talking about somebody who built

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the railroad.

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Yeah, that was classic.

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Was that one of the nihilists or?

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I can't remember who he called the Chinaman.

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I can't remember who he was talking about, but it was funny as fuck is what it was.

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Oh my God.

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Do you want to keep going through and get to the end of the movie and then maybe we

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can talk about our favorite scene or favorite scenes or some of our favorite stuff?

404
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Yeah, why not?

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And then we've got a little bit of, we've got some trivia stuff and we can keep kind

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of talking about the film a bit.

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By now, it's an old enough movie that everybody our age should have seen it.

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No judgment if you haven't, but the younger generation might not have and the older generation,

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I guess might not have too.

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It kind of depends because it really did come out in the late 90s.

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Yeah, it came out right at the right time for us to watch it when we were in high school.

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That was exactly the right time for us to watch it, exactly the right time.

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A lot of the kind of like anything like 80s to maybe early 2000s is kind of really the

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sweet spot of modern cinema like Tropic Thunder, I don't know, Team America, things that can

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be offensive and they're funny, but they're funny because they're offensive to everybody.

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They're not pulling punches.

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I'm not saying Big Lebowski is offensive to people, but it's not your stereotypical like

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the dudes calling people Chinaman, Walters, obviously using his time in NAMM as a grandiose

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blanket statement to get away with a lot of bullshit.

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Right.

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They're like pulling guns on people in league across in the fall line.

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Yeah.

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Market is zero, Donnie.

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Market is zero.

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I would also like to say that this is at like the when the movie got released, it was at

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the heyday of bowling, like league bowling in the 90s.

427
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Oh, sure.

428
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Yeah.

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And it was a huge, huge industry in the 90s.

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It wasn't until like 08 when, well, the dot com bubble and then 08 really knocked the

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wind out of the leagues, but a lot of people were league bowling.

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When did Kingpin come out?

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The mid 90s.

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It was right around that same time.

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So yeah, so it tracks.

436
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,600
Yeah, yeah.

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Bowling was huge.

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Somewhere around.

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Not that these two movies are similar really in any way, shape or form other than they're

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both kind of comedies and kind of have bowling.

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They focus on bowling in this one.

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They both have bowling in them.

443
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Yeah.

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I guess the focus on bowling and Big Lebowski is kind of like the constant backstory and

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not really at the forefront, whereas in Kingpin, it really is kind of all about bowling and

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the other stuff is kind of the side story.

447
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Right.

448
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Yeah.

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And well, yeah, Kingpin had real bowlers in it, whereas the Big Lebowski had actors

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and things like that, which is fine.

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I got a feel like I feel like there was like that one guy, though, had to have been a real

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bowler.

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Oh, Big Belly?

454
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Yeah, that guy had to be.

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He knew how to bowl because they showed him bowl.

456
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Oh, I know.

457
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Yeah.

458
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That's what I mean.

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He must have been some bowler guy.

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I don't know.

461
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Yeah.

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I can't remember his name.

463
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Maybe he just hit the lane.

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I don't know.

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There was a professional bowler that was the, what would be called, the film expert on bowling.

466
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Sure.

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And he's the one that threw all the balls when you saw the balls rolled on the lane.

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And that's why you never saw any of the actors actually throw a bowling ball.

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Yeah.

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Not that it's hard to do, but you're making a movie.

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So anyway, here's my interesting bit of trivia, or one of them is the only character in the

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movie, not the only character, right?

473
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But the only bowling character in the movie that we don't see throw a bowling ball ever

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is the dude.

475
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Oh, I did not know that.

476
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He never picks up a ball to go and actually bowl.

477
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We never see him bowl in the entire film.

478
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That's hilarious.

479
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He's always just sitting there.

480
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Maybe he's keeping score and stuff.

481
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Sometimes he's keeping score.

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Sometimes he's just sitting, but we never see him.

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We see Donnie with a ball.

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We see Walter with a ball.

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We see Jesus with a ball.

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We see the other Jesus' teammate with a ball, but we never see the dude pick up his ball

487
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to actually bowl.

488
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,480
That's funny.

489
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,480
I never noticed that.

490
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We even see Jesus lick a ball, which is disgusting.

491
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We see Jesus do a lot of things with the balls that we wish we didn't.

492
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And some of those are the bowling balls and some of those unfortunately are not the bowling

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balls.

494
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,800
Yes.

495
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,920
Some of the bowling balls they have in there are legendary too.

496
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,920
Okay.

497
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,920
Yeah.

498
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,280
They used the balls that were popular at that time to kind of showcase it.

499
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,120
The companies probably paid money.

500
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,120
Oh, I'm sure.

501
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:31,120
Yeah.

502
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,480
But yeah, they were prevalent at the time.

503
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,160
The cigar check, Mike, where are you at?

504
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,160
I think I'm about halfway.

505
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,400
I'm just about to peel off the label, which is phenomenal by the way.

506
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,320
It's got bowling pins and white Russians and sunglasses on it.

507
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,320
Yep.

508
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,320
Yeah.

509
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,320
This label is fantastic.

510
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,320
I'm not quite halfway.

511
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,320
I'm like more like two thirds.

512
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,880
Well, two thirds is more than half.

513
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,080
Not two thirds, one third.

514
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,080
I'm sorry.

515
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,080
I know.

516
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,080
I'm with you.

517
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,640
You know that Burger King was trying to introduce a third pound burger.

518
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,640
Really?

519
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,120
But Americans thought it was smaller than a quarter pound.

520
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,080
So it didn't sell.

521
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,240
And that's true.

522
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,240
That's a true thing.

523
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,480
Like fractions, we don't do it.

524
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,480
That is awful.

525
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,320
So it's still spicy.

526
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,160
Have I noticed any flavor change?

527
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,400
No, you're not wrong.

528
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,240
No, people are dumb.

529
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,040
Really, really dumb.

530
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:27,760
The best part of that movie is I can just kind of like loudly announce, am I wrong?

531
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,440
No, I agree with you, Mike.

532
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,520
If anything, the spice is kind of mellowed out a little bit, but it might just be because

533
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,600
I'm pairing it with the white Russian and the sweetness of that.

534
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,580
The white Russian definitely dampers that high note of spice down and it really kind

535
00:25:41,580 --> 00:25:44,940
of makes it mellow, like almost buttery.

536
00:25:44,940 --> 00:25:46,440
It's a phenomenal pairing.

537
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,440
Oh, for sure.

538
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,520
I won't complain about it.

539
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,520
That's for sure.

540
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,760
Yeah, no.

541
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,740
This is a lighter wrapper that is spicy.

542
00:25:54,740 --> 00:25:55,740
That's pretty rare.

543
00:25:55,740 --> 00:25:56,740
It is rare.

544
00:25:56,740 --> 00:25:57,740
I think the...

545
00:25:57,740 --> 00:26:01,080
Oh, is it the Kristoff Connecticut we did?

546
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,800
That one was, if I remember correctly, it was fairly spicy.

547
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,480
Maybe not to this level, but it did have some spice.

548
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,760
Yeah, this is so far I can recommend.

549
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,000
We'll see how it finishes.

550
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,760
But for the wrapper alone, I would buy this if I saw it at the store.

551
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,760
Oh, yeah.

552
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,160
And our listener, Matt, got this.

553
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,880
They had a deal, promo deal.

554
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,480
And so you got a box of these plus a bathrobe.

555
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,480
That is fucking awesome.

556
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,480
Yeah.

557
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,600
So I don't know what it ran, but fucking awesome.

558
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,120
We'll have to see if I can get him to put a picture up or something and tag us in it

559
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:36,880
on Instagram or whatever.

560
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,280
But I don't know where he got it from, but I'm sure if you look up Espinosa the Dude,

561
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,200
you can find that promo somewhere still.

562
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,280
I'm sure they've got a warehouse full of the robes.

563
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,280
Right.

564
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,960
Made somewhere in a country that we don't want to talk about.

565
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,960
This aggression will not stand.

566
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,960
Man.

567
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,040
Oh, man.

568
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,400
There is a ton of one liners in this film.

569
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,280
Oh, it's very quotable.

570
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,280
Very quotable.

571
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,640
So where were we?

572
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,640
Oh, yeah.

573
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,560
The Boski eventually makes it to, let's call him Not Hugh Hefner's house.

574
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,920
Not Larry Flanagan, not Hugh Hefner.

575
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,680
He's like a porno magnet.

576
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,680
Oh, yeah.

577
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,360
What the fuck was his name, though?

578
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:15,360
I don't recall.

579
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:18,080
There was something with a T, I thought.

580
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,080
Yeah.

581
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:24,600
He it was a story that didn't go nowhere, but it was just to explore whether or not

582
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,600
he was responsible.

583
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,600
Jackie Treehorn, man.

584
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,000
He went to Jackie Treehorn's place.

585
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,000
Yeah.

586
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,200
His bunny, of course, was an adult actress on the side.

587
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,200
Yeah.

588
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,200
Yeah.

589
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,200
In all these pornos with the nihilists.

590
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,200
Mm hmm.

591
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,200
So the question was, was Jackie Treehorn behind this scam?

592
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,080
And I pretty much I think they proved that he was not behind the scam.

593
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:52,400
No, I think they call him the main antagonist of the movie here on his little like villains

594
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,400
Wikipedia.

595
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,040
He's the overarching antagonist of the film.

596
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:02,120
I don't know if that's true because he drugged the dude and got him arrested by the Malibu

597
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:03,640
police for sure.

598
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,520
Yeah, that seems pretty antagonistic to me, man.

599
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,320
I think that the nihilists were acting independently of Jackie Treehorn because they're the ones

600
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,320
that like burned down.

601
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,320
So the nihilists were in the film too, though, dude.

602
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,320
They were in the pornos.

603
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,600
Well, I know, man, but that doesn't mean that they were working directly for Jackie Treehorn,

604
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,600
does it?

605
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,600
I mean, I don't know.

606
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,800
It's kind of left in the air.

607
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,200
I don't think it was ever explicitly said that they were working at the behest of Jackie

608
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,200
Treehorn.

609
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,760
You would think that he at least would know that the big Lebowski lived at a certain address

610
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,160
and he wouldn't have sent the nihilists to harass the dude.

611
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,600
Well, but I think maybe he did.

612
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,600
Well, maybe not.

613
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,600
I don't know.

614
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,200
It says Bunny wound up borrowing money from all over town, including from Treehorn.

615
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,200
When Bunny did not pay Treehorn back, he sent two of his thugs to rough up Bunny's husband,

616
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,460
but they went to the dude instead of Jeff.

617
00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:56,600
So he was the main guy and those two guys peed on his rug.

618
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,000
It was Wu, the Chinaman Wu, remember?

619
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,000
That was the reason.

620
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000
Wu was an Asian American.

621
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000
Yeah, he was an Asian American.

622
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,600
How dare you call him Chinaman?

623
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,720
Hey, man.

624
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,680
Walter corrected the dude and Walter corrected me.

625
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,680
Okay.

626
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,680
He's not wrong.

627
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,680
He's not wrong.

628
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:20,720
But we have to talk about Larry Sellers too because Walter, well, Walter was wrong in

629
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:27,360
one instance is they tracked the money down, I don't know how, to this Larry Sellers kid.

630
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,320
They found his homework shoved in a seat.

631
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,800
Oh yeah, they found his homework in the car from the thing.

632
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,960
And then they went out and found his house and there was a brand new car, like a Corvette

633
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,480
or something, right, like a fancy car.

634
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,320
And then they were trying to shake him down, shake this Larry kid down like a high school

635
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,320
student, right, in front of his parents, but he wouldn't talk.

636
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,360
And then Walter went out and started breaking every single window and headlight on this

637
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,360
car.

638
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,000
And it turned out to be one of the neighbor's cars.

639
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,000
That's right.

640
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,700
So then the neighbor came out and fucking smashed the dude's car, which already couldn't

641
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:04,240
open the driver's side door and smelled of like shit and excrement and stuff.

642
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,240
And yeah.

643
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,240
Oh, that's right.

644
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,120
And then, yeah, Jackie Cherryhorn did know it because that's why he wanted to talk to

645
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,120
the dude, because to find out where the money is.

646
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,600
Yeah, the dude was like, look man, the money's at Larry Sellers place, the kid.

647
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,580
We can get him to crack if we go back, but, or something like that.

648
00:30:19,580 --> 00:30:24,280
And then he spiked the thing and that's when one of the better, well, they're all good,

649
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,280
right?

650
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,520
They're all good segments, but the gutter ball sequence.

651
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,840
Yes, gutter balls.

652
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,840
That's great.

653
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:38,680
There's a fantasy in the dude's mind with Maude and like a full on very cheesy, not

654
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:44,720
unattractive, but cheesy like Vikings outfit and a whole bunch of sexual innuendos with

655
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,920
bowling balls and bowling pins.

656
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,760
And going down the lane and yeah.

657
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,840
Bowling themed music video, let's call it that.

658
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,280
No, it's not a music video.

659
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,280
Here's what it is.

660
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,280
This is my other bit of trivia.

661
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:03,120
There is a, it's not as a film director, he's a film director and a choreographer.

662
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:10,120
And he was born in 1895 and he died in 1976, but he made a ton of movies in the forties

663
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,980
and fifties that had these very elaborate musical production numbers that had a lot

664
00:31:15,980 --> 00:31:23,040
of complex geometric patterns, oftentimes made out of scantily clad women, their legs,

665
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,520
their arms, they had these phenomenal headdresses on them.

666
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,760
The guy's name is Busby Berkeley.

667
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:36,640
And if you've seen any of those films, like Fred Astaire, Ginger Rogers, some of those

668
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,880
type of films, right?

669
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,680
The dancing and the musical numbers, all of these things, all you have to do is go and

670
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:47,340
look up Busby Berkeley Kaleidoscope Dance, some of the other sequences and you'll see

671
00:31:47,340 --> 00:31:55,440
instantly that this gutter ball sequence was an homage to this guy and his crazy geometric.

672
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,200
And he did this stuff back when the cameras were massive and he was putting cameras underneath

673
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,920
women's legs going through them, just like they do in gutter balls, right?

674
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,920
Oh, sure.

675
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,920
That's funny.

676
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:11,120
That's definitely a Coen Brothers thing to make references to other films and other...

677
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,680
Only a film nerd would do that or get that.

678
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,680
Right.

679
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,680
Especially in 1998.

680
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,680
Yeah, man.

681
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,680
Yeah, yeah.

682
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:23,640
And then when the dude was coming home from Malibu, because this is where the pornographer

683
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:30,520
lived, is Malibu and the sheriffs arrest him, rough him up and kick him out of Malibu.

684
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,520
And that's when he gets...

685
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,520
Yeah, don't come here.

686
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:39,400
Yeah, he gets in the vehicle with a cab driver dressed like New Jack from New Jack City,

687
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,840
like Wesley Snipes is what he reminded me of.

688
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,840
Oh, yeah.

689
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,920
And he was listening to the Eagles.

690
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,960
I fucking hate the Eagles.

691
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,960
I fucking hate the Eagles, man.

692
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,800
You get the fuck out of my car.

693
00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,480
And he gets kicked out in the middle of the highway for hating the Eagles.

694
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,000
When does he end up calling Walter on Shabbos?

695
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,120
It was after that, because he needed a ride.

696
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,880
Yeah, he needed a ride from Malibu Beach or wherever the fuck.

697
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,880
Yep.

698
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,880
Right?

699
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,880
It's got to be a dire emergency, dude.

700
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200
And he's like, it is, it is.

701
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,880
And then Walter's like, well, that's why I picked up, because I knew it was.

702
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,120
Because they're not even supposed to pick up the phone on Shabbos.

703
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,120
Oh, my.

704
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,000
And this is the days of the answering machines.

705
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,720
So the dude's answering machine goes off just constantly.

706
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,880
He never answers the phone.

707
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,880
Oh, yeah.

708
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,880
Well, why would he?

709
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,880
They're all collectors.

710
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,880
They are all debt collectors or deep secretaries.

711
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,800
Not all of them, but it's funny because it's...

712
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,040
Oh, what's his name?

713
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,840
Philip Seymour Hoffman's character, right?

714
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,840
Yep.

715
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,840
He's like, after...

716
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:47,240
Oh, so the big Lebowski is like, no, man, I'm not going to recompense your rug or something.

717
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,920
I'm not going to reimburse that.

718
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,920
You go pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

719
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,280
And then the dude's like, oh, okay, man.

720
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,280
And he leaves and Philip Seymour comes up and he's like, hey, how'd that go?

721
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,280
And he's like, good.

722
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,000
He said I could take any rug I wanted in the house.

723
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,280
And that's why he ended up actually meeting Maude because the rug he chose was the rug

724
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,020
that Maude got her father for some thing, right?

725
00:34:08,020 --> 00:34:10,120
And so that one had emotional value to her.

726
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,800
And she was like, pick any rug other than that rug or whatever.

727
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:18,480
That was the whole reason he even met Maude and that whole thing even happened.

728
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:24,000
But then there was a lot of like Philip Seymour Hoffman playing the nervous business person

729
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,560
type where he's like, oh yeah, we've got a proposition for you.

730
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,320
We're not worried about the rug at all.

731
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,320
You keep the rug, we're happy you have the rug.

732
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,600
We're not worried about the rug.

733
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,960
And Philip Seymour Hoffman calls him the dude and it's hilarious.

734
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,880
Oh, it's so funny.

735
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,880
That's right, dude.

736
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,880
We want your help.

737
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:52,320
Do you want to know my favorite scene slash sequence of events maybe in the entire film?

738
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,320
That's here.

739
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,320
Okay.

740
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,640
So the dude gets back to his apartment and he's done because there's been two or three

741
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,680
times now people have kicked in his door.

742
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,320
So he goes and he grabs himself like a two by four or something.

743
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,720
It's not quite a two by four.

744
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:07,800
It's like, I don't know what, a one by two or something.

745
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,040
And he's like, he's spending all this time.

746
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,040
He's got all these nails.

747
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,920
He's pounding all these nails into this strip of wood on his floor, you know, to prevent

748
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,000
the door from kicking in.

749
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,280
And he's doing it, doing it, doing it.

750
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,520
And then somebody opens the door because it opens out instead of in.

751
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,680
So he's been nailing it wrong the whole time.

752
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,280
And that's funny enough in itself.

753
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,960
But then later in the film, he like rushes into his apartment and trips over it and falls.

754
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,760
And that's like classic comedy, my favorite bit in the whole thing.

755
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,840
Because it's like, it's so small.

756
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,600
It's not overstated.

757
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,360
It's very, it's subtly done in my opinion.

758
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,920
Maybe like nowadays with how they have to spell things out for you.

759
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,920
But it was fucking hilarious.

760
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,920
Oh, yeah.

761
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,600
That's well, that's one of the joys of this film is that it is an intelligent film that

762
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,040
you have to pay attention to, to understand everything that's going on.

763
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,560
Even then, there's so much going on that you really don't understand what's going on on

764
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,560
purpose.

765
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:04,000
It is purposefully complicated so that you just kind of fall into it and let it happen.

766
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,600
Kind of like Sam Elliott showing up for no reason.

767
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,600
And drinking his Sioux City Sarsaparilla.

768
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,840
Which I tried to find and I could not find one in my area.

769
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,040
So there we go.

770
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,040
I've had it.

771
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,440
It's pretty, it's pretty decent.

772
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,800
I have had Sioux City Sarsaparilla and it is good, but I could not find one in any of

773
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,520
my local, local places that sell pops.

774
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,520
Sarsaparilla?

775
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,520
Yes.

776
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,520
Yeah.

777
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,520
Not shocking.

778
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,600
But sometimes you find those things in really weird places.

779
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:40,360
Oh, I know of a place in my area that sells it, but I wasn't willing to take the drive

780
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,000
and do an hour long round trip to go get it.

781
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,400
It wouldn't be hour long to get it.

782
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,320
A lot of these, you know, where they have a lot of these kind of like novelty sodas

783
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,440
and things are kind of like touristy towns or touristy streets or shops, right?

784
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,440
So yes.

785
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,440
Yes.

786
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,640
You go into some like touristy place and they've just got kind of like a cooler of them for

787
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,640
no reason.

788
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,280
I don't know why, but they do.

789
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,000
That's because the little kids love sugar and they'll wine and then their parents will

790
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,040
get them that because it's cheap.

791
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,040
And instead of spending-

792
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,200
And if they get that, they might as well write the check for a dollar 67 cents instead of

793
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,640
just the 67 cents for the soda, right?

794
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Right.

795
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,640
Exactly.

796
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,640
Yes.

797
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,080
So that's actually the kind of store I was thinking of, but a very specific one.

798
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,080
Oh, sure.

799
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,080
Got it.

800
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,080
That I know has it.

801
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,120
Like I know it has to have it.

802
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,880
So yes.

803
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,880
Yeah.

804
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,960
But anyway, so they get back to the bowling alley and they leave league.

805
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,560
And of course, the nihilists are there and they light the dude's car on fire.

806
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,560
Yeah.

807
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,600
They get into a fight with the nihilists and Donnie, Steve Buscemi's character ends up getting

808
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,600
killed.

809
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,600
There's a whole sequence of events.

810
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
I don't know that he got, he didn't get killed.

811
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,920
Well, yeah, he died of a heart attack.

812
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,920
He died of a heart attack.

813
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,920
Yeah.

814
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,240
So it's kind of, I don't know, it'd maybe be manslaughter.

815
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,920
I don't know that it would be straight out murder.

816
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,920
It wouldn't be murder.

817
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,160
It kind of depends.

818
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:14,480
I don't know the legal definition of if you cause shock to somebody who has a condition,

819
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,480
you know what I mean?

820
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,480
Right.

821
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,680
I mean, if it was a police officer in Washington, DC, it would be considered the T word and

822
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,680
the travesty.

823
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,920
And then they would talk about it on the news for the next four years.

824
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,920
Yeah.

825
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,200
And he was on our radar and everything like that.

826
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,200
Right.

827
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:38,040
I mean, it's similar to like, if you get into a bar fight and go to like push or punch somebody

828
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,120
and they fall and crack their head open on the bar, the street curb or something and

829
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,120
die.

830
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,480
Like it wasn't the intent to kill them, but it happened.

831
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,760
So it's one of those fuzzy aspects of the law.

832
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,560
But anyway, go on, Mike.

833
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,560
We're not lawyers.

834
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,560
Don't listen to us.

835
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,560
We're not lawyers.

836
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,560
So they have to...

837
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,760
But it's complicated to talk about because it's like they didn't necessarily set out

838
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,760
to kill him.

839
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,760
No.

840
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,600
And I don't know that they actually did kill him, but they set into motion events that

841
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,600
did kill him.

842
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,600
So...

843
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,600
Right.

844
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,600
And this is like where the movie...

845
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,360
This is like really indicative of the whole movie.

846
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,000
They go to the funeral home, which is a mansion.

847
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,600
And it's like all this crazy nonsense in there.

848
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:22,200
Then of course they want to charge them just tons and tons of money and they refuse to

849
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,200
pay.

850
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,800
So they end up taking Donnie home.

851
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,360
This is our most economical...

852
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,360
Yeah.

853
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,360
Whatever.

854
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,360
It's not a vase, but...

855
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,360
Container.

856
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,360
Container.

857
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,360
Yeah.

858
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,880
So somehow they convince the funeral home to...

859
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,880
Receptacle.

860
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,680
It's our most economic receptacle for the remains.

861
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,680
He was smiling that shit eating grin like, ha ha ha, I get to steal your money.

862
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,720
You're going to have to pay me something for this absolute terrible thing.

863
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:51,320
So they end up taking them home in a coffee can, of course.

864
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,400
And then they try to spread the ashes.

865
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,320
And of course this is a famous scene.

866
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,920
It ends up all over the dude.

867
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:57,920
Yeah.

868
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,320
Because Walter goes up to the cliff and they're like...

869
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,760
It was funny because you don't really know much about Donnie because he doesn't get to

870
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:04,760
say much.

871
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,240
Because every time he opens his mouth, Walter's like, shut the fuck up, Donnie.

872
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:08,600
You don't know what you're talking about.

873
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,600
Shut the fuck up.

874
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,680
So he doesn't really say a whole lot.

875
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,920
And then at the end, Walter gives him a eulogy and he's like, he wanted to be buried here,

876
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,920
we think.

877
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,440
Because he loves surfing so much.

878
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,600
And we're like, what the fuck?

879
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:27,120
We've never seen Donnie do anything other than bowl and be interrupted by Walter.

880
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,080
So it's funny because you don't know anything about the character.

881
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,880
And then Walter's in the front and he dumps it over the cliff, but the wind is coming

882
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,560
up over the cliff and doesn't blow it into Walter's face, but right into the dude.

883
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,440
And of course the dude has a beard and they have a lot of fun with his beard, with the

884
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,920
white Russians and drinking and stuff like that too.

885
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,920
So do you want to talk about the other PI for a bit?

886
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,360
Oh yeah, yeah, go ahead.

887
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:55,160
Well, it's this guy following the dude and he kind of notices him because he's driving

888
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,840
like I don't know, a bright blue Volkswagen Beetle or something, right?

889
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,400
And so the dude's like, quit following me, man.

890
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,120
And it turns out it's like a PI.

891
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,600
I don't remember who hired him.

892
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,600
He didn't even, he wasn't even hired, was he?

893
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,760
He was just trying to like watch the dude.

894
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,480
I think he was hired by Maude to watch him.

895
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:16,720
And then he was under the impression that the dude was a PI and he was really impressed.

896
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:21,240
Yeah, with how he was piecing everything together.

897
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:23,320
But I don't know that he was really hired by Maude.

898
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,320
Maybe he was.

899
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:30,920
I know Maude, because one of Maude's people hit the dude or knocked the dude out and Maude

900
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,920
wanted him to go to this doctor and he's like, oh no, it's fine.

901
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,640
And so he finally goes and he gets like the full, full workup because she wants to conceive

902
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,720
a baby.

903
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:45,840
And so she sleeps with Lebowski after he comes back being clean and having strong swimmers

904
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:46,840
or something.

905
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,560
And then he was like, oh, that's why the doctor's physical was more.

906
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,560
So thorough.

907
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,560
So thorough.

908
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,560
Yep.

909
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,920
No, it's great.

910
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,120
He's got to be messed up because he's constantly smoking doobies and drinking white Russians

911
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,120
throughout the whole thing.

912
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Yeah, man.

913
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,120
Like constantly.

914
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,720
I know people like that though, and they're perfectly functioning most of the time.

915
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:09,720
You know what I mean?

916
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:10,720
Oh, sure.

917
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:11,720
For sure.

918
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:12,720
As long as they don't have anger issues.

919
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,480
So I think that's where it kind of goes off the rails.

920
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:20,280
If you're not like a happy-go-lucky drunk or if you don't know how to just maintain

921
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,000
a certain level of drunkenness, then it becomes an issue.

922
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,000
I think it's still an issue.

923
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,000
I'm not advocating that you should go out and try and sustain a BAC of a certain level,

924
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:36,080
but people do it and they're not like the angry alcoholics that beat their wives or

925
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,280
get into fistfights and bar fights and things like that.

926
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,080
But they got stuff, man.

927
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,360
If they can't abide.

928
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,200
That's just like your opinion, man.

929
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,640
I think why I like this film an awful lot.

930
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,720
It's funny.

931
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:55,720
It's irreverent.

932
00:42:55,720 --> 00:43:01,720
It has callbacks to older movies, other movies made by people that actually know how to make

933
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:02,720
films.

934
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:06,080
It's a film made for people who want to watch a film.

935
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,080
Yes.

936
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,400
They give you just enough details through the thing.

937
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,160
But the beauty of the whole thing is a lot of the time, you're just feeling like the

938
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,160
dude.

939
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,640
You're like, well, that just happened.

940
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Okay.

941
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:20,640
Where are we going from here?

942
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:27,000
And then you can't piece it together until Walter is like, no, man, that's not her toe.

943
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,000
That's not her toe.

944
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,400
What's the same shade of toenail polish?

945
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,400
That's not her toe.

946
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,400
So...

947
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,400
Yeah.

948
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,720
So literally, and I guess we'll spoil the end for everybody, Bunny was just off whoring

949
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:41,640
around, disappeared, didn't tell anybody.

950
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:48,880
And then the nihilists knew this, so they faked a abduction and turned in a fake toe.

951
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,880
Yes.

952
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,880
And the bigger twist is the Big Lebowski knew this as well, because it turns out he doesn't

953
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:00,080
have any money and he was spending the foundation's money, the million dollars.

954
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,840
And so he put a fake...

955
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,680
He put the fake money in the thing because he wanted to pocket the million dollars.

956
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,840
So he also knew it was a fake thing.

957
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,760
And he just wanted to pocket the million dollars because his allowance from Maude or from the

958
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,760
wife that died, right?

959
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,400
And set up the foundations, he wanted more of his allowance or something.

960
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,920
And he was playing big at the beginning of the film with giving Bunny an allowance to

961
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,040
live on, which he probably was, right?

962
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,880
But he was trying to pretend like a big successful businessman.

963
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,880
And here he is.

964
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,840
He doesn't have any controlling interest in any of the foundations.

965
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,960
He can't do anything.

966
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,560
He hasn't made anything of himself by himself.

967
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,400
He's only there because his ex-wife put him there or his dead wife, whatever.

968
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,080
I don't know what happened, but...

969
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,080
She died.

970
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,080
She died.

971
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,080
Yeah.

972
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,080
Yeah.

973
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,080
But so he was trying to run a scam on everybody too.

974
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,960
And so that's why he wanted Big Lebowski...

975
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,480
Or not Big Lebowski, he wanted the dude to do everything because here's some stoner,

976
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,040
loser guy that's going to go give the money or whatever.

977
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,880
And then he's going to take the fall for it because it's a fake...

978
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,440
It's not even real money in there.

979
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,880
It's a phone book or something, right?

980
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,520
So he's going to go give them fake money.

981
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,840
They're going to kill the dude, which is going to just get this guy away from the Big Lebowski

982
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,200
because the Big Lebowski is repulsed by the dude.

983
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,560
And it's a win-win because then the Big Lebowski gets the extra million dollars.

984
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,560
Right.

985
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,560
Yeah, it was a big workaround.

986
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,560
Yeah.

987
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:22,060
And then the dude ends up worse off for interacting with any of these people other than getting

988
00:45:22,060 --> 00:45:23,060
to sleep with Maude.

989
00:45:23,060 --> 00:45:24,060
I guess that's his one...

990
00:45:24,060 --> 00:45:25,060
I mean, that's got to be a win, right?

991
00:45:25,060 --> 00:45:28,040
I mean, he had the whole gutter ball dream sequence.

992
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,040
So yeah, obviously he won.

993
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Yeah.

994
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,480
I mean, Julie Anner is a very attractive woman.

995
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,360
So he got something out of it.

996
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,360
Yeah.

997
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:40,880
And weird naked zipline painting aside, you can be scared and aroused.

998
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,880
It's a thing.

999
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,880
Yeah, for sure.

1000
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,880
In the case of Jeff Lebowski, for sure.

1001
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,880
Yeah.

1002
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:49,880
Yeah.

1003
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,880
The dude abides, man.

1004
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:51,880
Yeah.

1005
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:59,000
And it's funny because the bowling is so integral to Walter and Walter's motivations.

1006
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,680
And when the last scene of the movie, Sam Elliott's back there again and he's like complimenting

1007
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,760
the dude on he likes his get up and stuff.

1008
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,000
And the dude is like, yeah, man, I dig your style too.

1009
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,000
And they're bowling.

1010
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,240
He likes the cut of his jib, my friend.

1011
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:17,240
Yeah.

1012
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:18,240
Yes.

1013
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:21,320
And which is exactly what a cowboy would say, right?

1014
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,920
Because they use jibs all the time to go across the desert and shit.

1015
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,760
But they don't even tell us if they end up winning the tournament or not.

1016
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:29,760
No.

1017
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,760
Which is hilarious.

1018
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,200
And also 100% in line with the rest of the film.

1019
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,200
You know what I mean?

1020
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,200
Oh, for sure.

1021
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,200
It's of pivotal importance to Walter that they compete in this thing and everybody's

1022
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,640
there for the thing.

1023
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,560
But then they're back at the bowling alley and that's just the end of the movie.

1024
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,560
So there you go.

1025
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,560
Yep.

1026
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,480
Back in the day when bowling alley bars were places where people would actually go to drink.

1027
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,480
Yes.

1028
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,480
Yes, indeed.

1029
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,120
Where you at with your stick, Mike?

1030
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,440
I got only two inches left and it's getting a little like not pleasant.

1031
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,720
I got two and a half left, something like that.

1032
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:02,720
It's OK.

1033
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:03,720
I mean, I'm still good.

1034
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:06,240
I've been smoking a lot slower than you abnormally.

1035
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,560
Yeah, abnormally.

1036
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:13,040
So I, you know, but also abnormally, my white Russian is gone, man.

1037
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,040
Mine is as well.

1038
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Mine is as well.

1039
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,040
His aggression will not stand.

1040
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,040
Yeah.

1041
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:27,400
I need a mod, I need a mod to come back and fix me a Caucasian.

1042
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,200
Yeah.

1043
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:35,320
So the reason why I knew Bunny was from Moorhead is because she was a runaway, apparently.

1044
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,320
Yeah.

1045
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,320
So the insinuation.

1046
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,440
They showed a picture, they showed a picture of her homestead and wasn't the dude like,

1047
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,080
oh, make anyone homesick or something.

1048
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Because it was like a flat open field and a barn.

1049
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,040
It's like the worst looking photo ever of anything.

1050
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,480
It wasn't even of like a cow.

1051
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,960
It was just a flat desolate field with a barn on it.

1052
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,960
That is correct.

1053
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:01,200
And it does look just like the farmland outside of Moorhead because Moorhead is part of the

1054
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:09,040
Red River Valley and that is like not the flattest place on earth, but it's adjacent.

1055
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,040
It's flat adjacent.

1056
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,040
Yeah.

1057
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,040
It's pretty boring.

1058
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:17,040
All your economical receptacles in Moorhead.

1059
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,040
Yeah.

1060
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,240
So I thought that was great.

1061
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,720
So anyway, the insinuation was that Bunny was underage.

1062
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:24,720
I'm going to guess.

1063
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,200
Because you can't be a runaway and be 18.

1064
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,200
So which is hilarious.

1065
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,200
Yeah.

1066
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:36,720
We don't know how old she was at the time of the events in the film necessarily, but

1067
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:43,080
we can pretty much imply that when she married the big Lebowski, she was potentially underage.

1068
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,080
Yes.

1069
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,280
Which adds even more.

1070
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,280
And she was too drunk.

1071
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,800
Well, she drunkenly crashed her car at the entryway.

1072
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,800
Yeah, I remember that.

1073
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:51,800
Yeah.

1074
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,800
When she came back.

1075
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,800
When she came back.

1076
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:54,800
Yeah.

1077
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,120
And then Philip Seymour Hoffman was like, she returned and we're happy or something

1078
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,120
like that.

1079
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,120
It was just...

1080
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,640
All of his lines were classic.

1081
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,640
Oh, yeah.

1082
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,320
Another one of those actors that you wish were still alive.

1083
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,320
Oh, yeah.

1084
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,120
He was a gem for sure.

1085
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,120
And it's crazy when you look at the budget, because it was a relatively low budget film.

1086
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,120
Yeah.

1087
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:19,720
And the number of actors who were very famous that wanted, clearly wanted to be in it.

1088
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:20,720
Yes.

1089
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:21,720
That was a different era.

1090
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:23,560
It was a different era.

1091
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,760
And that was an era when you could make a name for yourself as a director or director

1092
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,840
team as these are.

1093
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,920
And people would actually want to work with you because your films were so different.

1094
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,120
Oh, right.

1095
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,920
And think like early Tarantino.

1096
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,240
And you could say what you want about Tarantino.

1097
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:41,720
Some people still think he's the greatest thing ever.

1098
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:47,480
I like a lot of his films, but I don't know, Hateful Eight, I didn't like as much as I

1099
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,480
liked Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

1100
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,120
But I don't like either of those as much as I like Inglorious Basterds or Kill Bill or

1101
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,920
Reservoir Dogs, you know what I mean, or Pulp Fiction.

1102
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:56,920
So say what you will.

1103
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:02,440
I've never seen the Hateful Eight or Kill Bill, but I did see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

1104
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,840
Once Upon a Time upon, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

1105
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,320
You did another Caucasian man.

1106
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,320
Yeah, I know.

1107
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,160
I've had one and it's like too many.

1108
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,160
Am I wrong?

1109
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,600
Man.

1110
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:24,800
So, yeah, so it's got Jeff Bridges, John Goodman, Julianne Moore, Steve Buscemi, David Huddleston,

1111
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,200
who is the big Lebowski.

1112
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,200
Yeah.

1113
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,200
Philip Seymour Hoffman.

1114
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,200
Yeah.

1115
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,200
Tuturo.

1116
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,200
John Seymour Hoffkin.

1117
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,200
Sam Elliott.

1118
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,200
Yeah, Sam Elliott.

1119
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,200
Yeah, Sam Elliott.

1120
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,200
I'm not sure who he is.

1121
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,200
Yeah, he's a big Lebowski.

1122
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,200
Yeah.

1123
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,200
And I remember this guy.

1124
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,200
I don't know if you remember the guy who did the film.

1125
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,200
I remember, I think he was the guy who made the film and the end credits for Buster's

1126
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,200
And I don't know if you remember the guy who made the film.

1127
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,200
Yeah.

1128
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,200
Yeah, I remember him as well.

1129
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,200
Yeah, he's the guy who made the film.

1130
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,200
Yeah, he made the film.

1131
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,200
Yeah.

1132
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:52,440
And it's like all these famous people and they made it for $15 million back in the day.

1133
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,120
Now it'd be a $200 million.

1134
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,120
Oh, easily.

1135
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,920
And they'd have to make it.

1136
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,160
And what was the run time on Big Lebowski?

1137
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,800
Do you happen to have that up if you're looking at stats?

1138
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:02,440
Yeah.

1139
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:03,120
I'll check it out.

1140
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,480
117 minutes.

1141
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,120
Yeah, so just shy of two hours.

1142
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,560
And if you made it today, it would be a 2 and 1 half.

1143
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,520
I mean, for that budget and that star power,

1144
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,240
it'd have to be like a 2 and 1 half, three hour long movie.

1145
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:15,960
You know what I mean?

1146
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:16,480
Oh, for sure.

1147
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:22,880
And it'd have CGI instead of having actual artistry, right?

1148
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,920
Yeah, well, I mean, let's be fair.

1149
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,480
There weren't a whole lot of stunts required for the film.

1150
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,240
But the gutter ball sequence needed quite a bit

1151
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:33,080
of choreography, for sure.

1152
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:33,580
Right.

1153
00:51:33,580 --> 00:51:35,400
And there was some pyrotechnics.

1154
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,040
But outside of that, there wasn't really

1155
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,620
gunfights or fistfights or anything

1156
00:51:40,620 --> 00:51:43,320
that needed overly drastic.

1157
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,640
But it was an exciting film still.

1158
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,720
The ferret that they called a marmot.

1159
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:49,840
I know, I love that.

1160
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,720
A marmot.

1161
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:53,880
Oh, and I love the fact that the dude is just straight up

1162
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,840
taking a bath.

1163
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,120
Oh, he's drinking a Caucasian, smoking a dupe,

1164
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,080
smoking a dupe.

1165
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:00,580
Yeah.

1166
00:52:00,580 --> 00:52:01,080
Yeah.

1167
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,240
Yeah.

1168
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,480
Got to have Roach Clip in a doobie, you know?

1169
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,640
Oh, yeah.

1170
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,320
And I always like how his joints are always right at the end.

1171
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,400
You never see a light one.

1172
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,640
No, he's not.

1173
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,200
They're already lit and already to the bottom.

1174
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,880
They're already cached.

1175
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:24,000
He could be like the Roger Miller in King of the Road.

1176
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,280
Trailers for sale or rent, smoking old Stogies

1177
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,840
that I have found, or whatever.

1178
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,040
People picking stuff up, smoking them from the street.

1179
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,500
Not that you'd find a whole bunch of doobies in the street.

1180
00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:34,360
But he was in California, so.

1181
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:34,880
Right.

1182
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,520
You never know, man.

1183
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,440
No, it's great.

1184
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,360
And The Jesus is epic.

1185
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,400
Yeah, The Jesus.

1186
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,240
I was going to say, though, this type of film

1187
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:48,760
I really enjoy because it's not really,

1188
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,800
I don't know that you would call it a quest film.

1189
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,200
It's kind of a quest film.

1190
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,880
You know, like he's just kind of there

1191
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,360
and he's an unwilling participant mostly

1192
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,600
throughout the quest.

1193
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,000
He gets motivations throughout the quest to see it through.

1194
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,640
But it's kind of a quest film.

1195
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,040
It doesn't take place in like one night.

1196
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,880
It takes place over time.

1197
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,680
But another one of the films that I really

1198
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,520
liked that's similar to that is, holy shit,

1199
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,760
it was just in my head.

1200
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,240
And you know what, kids?

1201
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:22,440
That's what drinking a double Caucasian will do to you.

1202
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:22,940
Right.

1203
00:53:22,940 --> 00:53:24,480
After Hours.

1204
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,880
After Hours is a 1985 film.

1205
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,560
And I believe it's a Scorsese film.

1206
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,240
And it's got, I'm just fucking pulling it up.

1207
00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:36,600
Yeah, Martin Scorsese.

1208
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:41,400
And it stars Griffin Dunn and Rosanna Arquette.

1209
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,120
And Tommy Chong is in it.

1210
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,480
Julie Gar is in it.

1211
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,820
And she plays a phenomenal role.

1212
00:53:46,820 --> 00:53:52,520
But it's basically like he goes to visit a friend or somebody.

1213
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,400
And then he has to spend all night trying to get back home.

1214
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,200
And so the film takes place over one night.

1215
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,320
And his quest is, he's got to get back home.

1216
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,640
And it's kind of like a slice of life or like a quest type

1217
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:02,480
of film.

1218
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,360
And he meets these absolute ridiculous people

1219
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,400
trying to get back home.

1220
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,600
And there's people that offer to try and help him,

1221
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,200
like Ola Walter, that end up creating more trouble for him.

1222
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,440
Ola Walter.

1223
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,080
So it's a very kind of like niche type of movie.

1224
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,280
But I very much enjoy them because it's

1225
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,360
so kind of surreal almost.

1226
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,740
That's probably the best word.

1227
00:54:22,740 --> 00:54:25,200
It's kind of like a surreal almost like nightmare.

1228
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,120
Like Eyes Wide Shut is kind of like that a little bit.

1229
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,120
Oh, yeah.

1230
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,200
There's a lot of films from this era that were like that.

1231
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:33,720
Yeah.

1232
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:35,560
And I love that style of film because it's

1233
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,280
very like atmospheric and moody.

1234
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,360
Not that this one's super duper moody.

1235
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,360
But it's got its own kind of like vibe and mystery.

1236
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,720
This is when you could go and see a film at the movie theater

1237
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:48,720
for like $4, $5.

1238
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,920
And they would let you basically anybody

1239
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,360
could go in and watch a rated R movie.

1240
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,440
They didn't care.

1241
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,160
It was the 90s, man.

1242
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,560
At least not at my local theater.

1243
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,000
They didn't give a shit.

1244
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,520
I've never been fucking carted at a movie theater.

1245
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,320
No, no.

1246
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,040
Either of them.

1247
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,400
Never, ever.

1248
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,200
Nowadays, even with the online stuff, if you look old enough

1249
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,840
and you buy the ticket online, what does it ask you?

1250
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,040
When's your birthday?

1251
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,200
Just like all the naughty sites, the gutterball sites.

1252
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,880
You know, when's your birthday?

1253
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,960
Or even just to bring it more relevant, cigar sites.

1254
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,280
If you want to go on pipesandcigars.com or Cigars Daily

1255
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,920
or any Rocky Patel website or Espinosa website,

1256
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,280
they ask you, are you over 21?

1257
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,240
And say, yes, no.

1258
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,440
Yep, I'm over 21 for sure.

1259
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,240
Let me look at all these cigars, man.

1260
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:40,960
You have to do that to go to sporting goods websites now,

1261
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,480
too.

1262
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:41,980
What?

1263
00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:44,520
I was recently on Cabela's.com, and they

1264
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,720
had an age verification to be on there, which is crazy.

1265
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:51,120
Do they have to do that on websites for sex reassignment

1266
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:51,620
surgery?

1267
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,400
I don't want to talk about that.

1268
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,080
There weren't any beautiful ladies.

1269
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,560
I meant ear piercing sites.

1270
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,160
Tanning bed sites, man.

1271
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,200
Tanning beds.

1272
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,120
We did forget one actress that everybody

1273
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,320
would know that was in it, which was Asia Carrera was in it.

1274
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:09,960
Oh, yeah, yeah.

1275
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,480
Yeah, yeah.

1276
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,360
Who was, well, all the listeners know who that is.

1277
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,600
But anyone who doesn't, she was one of the hot chicks

1278
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,520
from the 90s in a lot of movies.

1279
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,280
Yeah, yeah, I mean, there's people you would recognize.

1280
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:20,780
Yeah.

1281
00:56:20,780 --> 00:56:21,960
If you don't know any of the names,

1282
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,640
we're telling you hopefully you know some of them.

1283
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,080
But if you don't, that's no big deal.

1284
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,600
But you would definitely recognize them.

1285
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:27,240
Oh, yeah.

1286
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:29,760
The other interesting tidbit that I know about the film

1287
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,080
is a lot of the dude's wardrobe came from Jeff Bridges'

1288
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,320
personal closet.

1289
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:34,840
Oh, really?

1290
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:35,680
I didn't know that.

1291
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,680
That's hilarious.

1292
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,200
Yeah.

1293
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,560
So they saved a lot of money on costuming.

1294
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,000
Yeah, a movie like this, it would be made,

1295
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,760
but it wouldn't be made by a major studio

1296
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,360
and released to theater.

1297
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,880
It would be like Sharks in the Corn kind of shit.

1298
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:51,760
Yep.

1299
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,040
Well, which is great.

1300
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,400
If you haven't seen Sharks in the Corn, you should watch it.

1301
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,640
But another, like the 90s had a lot of these really good flicks

1302
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,200
like this, like something about Mary, which is also one

1303
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,680
you wouldn't really, because they

1304
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:08,640
have a whole truck stop gay sex thing in there, right?

1305
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,640
So you're not going to get that kind of stuff these days.

1306
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,440
They're more, they're not trying to be offensive.

1307
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,800
They're just trying to be irreverent, I guess,

1308
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,080
is maybe more so.

1309
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,320
I think the motivation.

1310
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,360
Right.

1311
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,960
It's comedy through the lens of something that's different

1312
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,600
and outrageous and something that most people are not

1313
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,520
going to really, they know about it, but not directly.

1314
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,360
What's sort of that?

1315
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,080
They've heard about it or they've heard like,

1316
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:38,040
and exaggeration is a key component in a lot of comedy.

1317
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,720
And I know a lot of stand-up comics recently of late

1318
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,880
have kind of gotten thrown under their bus

1319
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,480
because they're exaggerating their stories

1320
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,640
for comedic effect.

1321
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,440
And they're like, well, that didn't actually truly happen.

1322
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,400
He's exaggerating that.

1323
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,840
That's the whole point of comedy.

1324
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:52,880
That's the point.

1325
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,320
It's not supposed to really happen necessarily.

1326
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,800
It is not the literal truth.

1327
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,720
And so in the 90s or whatever, the truck stops

1328
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,200
were like, this is before same-sex marriage was

1329
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,120
legalized and stuff.

1330
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,240
And it was still, it was the height of the satanic panic,

1331
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,080
which we talked about on the show previous episode.

1332
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,080
And so truck stops being homosexual hotbeds

1333
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,040
was kind of a sensationalized media story.

1334
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,000
And something about Mary kind of took that as a comedic gag

1335
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,920
in the thing to shock the probably what, upper middle

1336
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,000
class white people, right, who've never been to a drug

1337
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,840
stop and kind of give them something to laugh at

1338
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:31,240
or something.

1339
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:31,920
I don't know what.

1340
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:32,760
Or to shock them.

1341
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:33,640
You know, who knows what?

1342
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,160
It's not one of those films trying

1343
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,360
to make people comfortable.

1344
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,360
Yeah, truck stops were shady at that time.

1345
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,360
Just like bowling alleys were shady at that time.

1346
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,280
Also, Cameron Diaz takes jizz and spikes your hair with it.

1347
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,920
So you know, I mean, humor was definitely more allowable

1348
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,720
back then, let's say.

1349
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:58,520
Yeah, it wasn't supposed to be literally true, right?

1350
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,200
You can't punch down and be funny.

1351
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,560
Like, OK.

1352
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,640
Well, Ed, what's his name?

1353
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,160
In something about Mary, the guy that

1354
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,720
was pretending to be using the crutches to walk,

1355
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,880
he was pretending to be disabled, which now

1356
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,040
would get you canceled.

1357
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:13,840
Oh, for sure.

1358
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:14,480
For sure.

1359
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,680
So I mean, it's not one of those films that's

1360
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:21,840
like run by the DEI sensors or what have you.

1361
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:27,400
Tom Hanks recently said that he regrets doing Philadelphia.

1362
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,400
But he didn't mention Bussum Buddies,

1363
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,920
the entire TV show where he and his cohort

1364
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,400
dressed up as women to live in the female apartments

1365
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,760
because it was cheaper than living in the man apartments.

1366
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,080
In Philadelphia, he has a problem with, oh, we

1367
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,080
watched the whole series.

1368
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:42,600
It was great.

1369
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,360
It was funny as fuck.

1370
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,840
Bussum Buddies, one of Tom Hanks' first roles,

1371
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,120
he and his partner cross-dressed to live in the,

1372
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,720
not for nefarious reasons other than the female apartments,

1373
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,400
it was a female only apartment.

1374
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,000
And it was significantly cheaper than any other apartment

1375
00:59:59,000 --> 00:59:59,760
in town.

1376
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,760
And so they decided to dress up as women

1377
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,240
and take on these female names.

1378
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,880
And so the whole thing is hilarious

1379
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,480
because they have to, when their neighbors come over,

1380
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,720
they have to put it back on their get up

1381
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,520
and pretend to gossip and do all the female stuff.

1382
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,440
And then, of course, some of the women

1383
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:15,400
find out that they're men.

1384
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,280
And they help them go along with this

1385
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,360
so that the superintendent of the building

1386
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,960
doesn't find out that they're men.

1387
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,440
Sure.

1388
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,560
But I can't believe he would say he

1389
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,720
regrets doing Philadelphia and not even bring out

1390
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:27,680
Bussum Buddies.

1391
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,720
That's fucking hilarious.

1392
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,320
That reminds me of the people who

1393
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,560
attacked the Bud Light commercials back in the day

1394
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,120
for having the guys that dressed up

1395
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,560
as women for ladies night.

1396
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:37,440
Oh, yeah.

1397
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,720
Well, and now, isn't ladies night,

1398
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,240
you can't do ladies nights anymore because they finally

1399
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,600
decided that that was actually sexist?

1400
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,560
I think that they canceled ladies night because men

1401
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,280
stopped going to the bars on ladies night.

1402
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:50,840
OK.

1403
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,200
Yeah, I don't think it was like a.

1404
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,160
And ladies don't really go to bars a whole lot.

1405
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,960
I mean, in the same droves that men do.

1406
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:57,560
Right.

1407
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:58,880
Yeah, the concept behind ladies night

1408
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,960
was to get the women in the bar and then the men would

1409
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,440
come in and buy drinks.

1410
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:02,920
Yeah.

1411
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,400
And I think what ended up happening

1412
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,840
is that the men who are going to bars

1413
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,040
no longer go to bars to pick up women.

1414
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,320
Yeah, because that's dangerous.

1415
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,400
I don't want to say it's the dumbest thing to do,

1416
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,160
but there's better places to pick up women than the bar.

1417
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,480
Yeah, that's high risk behavior in modern society.

1418
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,280
Well, I think it's probably always been high risk behavior,

1419
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,160
but it's less acceptable now.

1420
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:24,660
Right.

1421
01:01:24,660 --> 01:01:27,280
It was normalized high risk behavior at one time,

1422
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,800
and now it is frowned upon.

1423
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,640
The risks to the man are well known.

1424
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:34,760
Let's put it that way.

1425
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:35,360
Yes.

1426
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,320
And even the risks to the women in some extent.

1427
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:38,840
Right.

1428
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,720
Oh, well, yeah, there's definitely risk for women.

1429
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,040
If you're going to pick up people at a bar,

1430
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,840
I mean, gender does make a difference.

1431
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,560
But if you're going to a bar to pick up a lover, let's say,

1432
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,120
it's just kind of a high risk behavior

1433
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,400
because you don't know what the other one is like

1434
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,000
or if it's lots of different things.

1435
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:57,720
I don't know.

1436
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:58,440
I don't do that.

1437
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,520
I've not done that.

1438
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,000
I've never picked up a woman from a bar.

1439
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,720
I have picked up a woman that I met at a bar,

1440
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,440
but not picking her up at the bar.

1441
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,320
We'd started our conversation at a bar.

1442
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,120
Oh, sure, yeah.

1443
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:09,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1444
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,040
It wasn't like a.

1445
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,040
It wasn't one of these newfangled one night stand

1446
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:13,600
type of things.

1447
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,600
No, it was not a one night stand situation.

1448
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,680
Ha, ha, ha, ha.

1449
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,520
I knew her because we both went to the same bar.

1450
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:22,200
Yes.

1451
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,440
Not because.

1452
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,160
I've seen you in here before.

1453
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,320
What's a woman like you doing in a bar like this?

1454
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:28,080
Yes, yeah.

1455
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,120
She worked at the bar.

1456
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,640
You must bowl.

1457
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,000
You must bowl, for this is a bowling alley

1458
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,040
and only secondarily a bar.

1459
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,480
Yes.

1460
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,440
Something like that.

1461
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,480
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

1462
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,680
Mike, am I wrong?

1463
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:42,560
Am I wrong?

1464
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:43,280
No, you're not wrong.

1465
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:43,680
I'm just kidding.

1466
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:44,680
I'm just fucking with you.

1467
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,360
Ha, ha, ha, ha.

1468
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,720
We were both there and not because we were there

1469
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,880
to pick somebody up at the bar.

1470
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:52,360
No.

1471
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,160
You wanted to pick up the eight and nine pin

1472
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,760
from your previous roll, right?

1473
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,840
I wanted to throw heavy balls around.

1474
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:00,800
Yes.

1475
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,000
I don't roll on Chavez.

1476
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,720
Ha, ha, ha, ha.

1477
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,160
I did like the picture that I took of the cigar

1478
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,720
in my bowling ball's mouth.

1479
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,480
Oh, man, it was great.

1480
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,840
I loved all your pictures.

1481
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,120
It took me a while to realize there

1482
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,520
was a doobie in all of them.

1483
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,400
Yes, there's a doobie and a hair clip.

1484
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,360
Because I was mostly like, I fucking

1485
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,880
hate the Eagles because you put a big Eagles vinyl down.

1486
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,760
I didn't even think about that.

1487
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,080
I have Eagles vinyl sitting right

1488
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,320
by where I took the picture.

1489
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:27,320
Ha, ha, ha, ha.

1490
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,440
But I was like, oh, I got to get my bowling ball for sure.

1491
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,240
I got to get the white Russian and the cigar in there.

1492
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,480
And the rug, of course.

1493
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,320
So you definitely threw more from the movie

1494
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,040
into your picture than I did in mine.

1495
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,040
Well, yeah, because I mean, I have a hair clip for bowling,

1496
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:39,880
just like the doobie.

1497
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:40,560
Yes.

1498
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,960
Yeah, man.

1499
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,560
So I had to go down to my bowling bag

1500
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,480
and grab my ball and my fucking hair clip.

1501
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,880
Yeah.

1502
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,520
What was the track he was listening to in the car

1503
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,080
when he was pounding on the roof?

1504
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,440
Oh, I don't know.

1505
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:55,000
It was Credence.

1506
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,040
It was Credence, yeah, because he had a Credence tape stuck

1507
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:58,640
in his car.

1508
01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:59,640
Yeah, a Credence cassette.

1509
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,240
And he made that in the police report.

1510
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,960
And yeah, that one police guy, he

1511
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,640
was in Boston Legal as one of the lawyers, the taller

1512
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:09,520
German-looking one.

1513
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,280
But he's been in a lot of other films, too.

1514
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:12,200
And I like that actor.

1515
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,880
So there's definitely big names in here.

1516
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,120
And even secondary names.

1517
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,560
This is the kind of movie that just doesn't get made anymore

1518
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,360
because it had all these people who

1519
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,760
they wanted to be in the movie just so they

1520
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,160
could be in the movie.

1521
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,520
It had nothing to do with making money.

1522
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:28,720
Yeah.

1523
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,200
Yeah, but I think if you took the residuals, right,

1524
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,920
on all the stuff, you would have come out ahead

1525
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:39,440
because The Big Lebowski is hands down a cult classic.

1526
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,640
Oh, it's in the Library of Congress.

1527
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:42,960
Like, yeah, man.

1528
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:47,240
So is Song of the South, man.

1529
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,920
Well, it won an Academy Award.

1530
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,920
So.

1531
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,360
Yeah.

1532
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,760
And it had the two first African-Americans

1533
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,920
who ever won an Academy Award in it.

1534
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:56,600
Yeah.

1535
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,400
So I know we've talked about that endlessly about how that's,

1536
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,120
I mean, I find that problematic.

1537
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:03,240
But what do I know, right?

1538
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,160
That's just my opinion.

1539
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,600
Well, that should be out.

1540
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,840
I mean, that's what I mean.

1541
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,280
It should have a nice restoration on Disney Plus

1542
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,280
is what it should have.

1543
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,080
Like, why hide behind it?

1544
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,040
There's nothing.

1545
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:13,760
We talked about it.

1546
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:14,960
We have a whole episode on it.

1547
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:15,800
Go listen to that.

1548
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:16,240
Yeah.

1549
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,240
I want to talk a little bit more about the cigar

1550
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,200
because I'm about to that point where I'm

1551
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,160
thinking about stopping it.

1552
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,720
I have an inch and a quarter left, and it's getting sour.

1553
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:25,200
Yep.

1554
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,200
See, so when I had about the two inches, give or take,

1555
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,200
it was sour.

1556
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,320
I kind of slowed down.

1557
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,320
And I'm still smoking it, but I really

1558
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,160
shouldn't be because my mouth kind of has

1559
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,160
that puckery taste to it.

1560
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,680
So I think this definitely kind of falls into the gurkha

1561
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:43,360
category where the end, like the last bit of it, is not ideal.

1562
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,480
I don't know if slowing down would.

1563
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:46,200
Oh, go on, Mike.

1564
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:46,800
Oh, go ahead.

1565
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:47,520
No, go ahead.

1566
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,880
I was going to say, I don't know if smoking the last bit

1567
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,520
slower would fix it.

1568
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:56,560
I know that for over 2 thirds of it, up until the last two

1569
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,280
inches, it was really good, especially if you

1570
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,760
pair it with the right Russian.

1571
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,840
I loved the spice at the beginning.

1572
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:03,840
Really like it.

1573
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,440
It's really, really good.

1574
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,600
The last little bit, not a huge fan.

1575
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,880
The last couple inches, we've had that before in cigars.

1576
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:11,720
It's not unusual.

1577
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,120
It's not uncommon.

1578
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,520
I smoked it slower than you, so the bitterness

1579
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,200
didn't really come in until probably an inch and a half,

1580
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,400
maybe an inch and a quarter.

1581
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,720
Had a nice spice to it.

1582
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,680
I was really impressed with that flavor profile.

1583
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,000
And I was also impressed that it paired with a white Russian.

1584
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,000
So they definitely put some thought into it.

1585
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:34,200
Also, the wrapper is just awesome.

1586
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,680
Yeah, it is great.

1587
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,720
And I like a good package, for sure.

1588
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,600
Mike loves the package.

1589
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,880
It is basically, if you took all of the stuff

1590
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,680
from the gutter ball, like mind sequence, fantasy sequence,

1591
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,160
and could put it into a wrapper that

1592
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,440
evoked the feel of the movie.

1593
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,280
It's an off-white.

1594
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,200
It's like a beige wrapper.

1595
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,400
I took a close-up picture for the Instagram.

1596
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:00,800
And it's all earth tones.

1597
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,160
It's like a yellow, a brown, and I don't know,

1598
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,200
is it kind of a red maybe?

1599
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,840
There's a little bit of red in there or something.

1600
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,000
These are the colors of bowling alleys

1601
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,080
that were built in the 1970s.

1602
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,000
That is the color.

1603
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,280
Perfect.

1604
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,920
I'm glad that they're able to do this.

1605
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,920
I'm glad they can call it what they call it.

1606
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,480
There's probably a reason they don't call it the Big Lebowski,

1607
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,120
because they don't want to go the same way as the Consigliere,

1608
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,520
the CAO Consigliere with the Sopranos,

1609
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,200
because they have to rename and kind of rebrand that cigar.

1610
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,480
I think they called it the Sopranos cigar or something.

1611
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:34,120
They did, yeah.

1612
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,480
So I'm glad that they did this in a way

1613
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,800
that either they worked it out with the filmmakers.

1614
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,840
I don't know that the filmmakers would honestly care.

1615
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:42,320
But again, it's more the studios,

1616
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,520
unless the actual filmmakers, the lawyers and stuff,

1617
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,200
who have the rights to the things.

1618
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,680
But I don't know.

1619
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,760
If you see these and you like the Big Lebowski,

1620
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,640
you like White Russians every once in a while,

1621
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,920
you don't have to love them all the time.

1622
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:55,920
I'd recommend it.

1623
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,760
I see you gave it a four, and I gave it a four as well.

1624
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,800
So this is definitely a good stick.

1625
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:01,840
Yeah, I recommend it.

1626
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:07,000
If I saw this in a lounge, I would buy it for sure.

1627
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,040
Yeah, yeah.

1628
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:09,120
Worse.

1629
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,920
It is a recommend on my part.

1630
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:11,560
Yes.

1631
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,200
Thank you, Matt, for giving us these cigars to smoke.

1632
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,400
And hopefully you and all of our other listeners

1633
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:22,680
enjoyed a little walk down memory lane with the Big Lebowski.

1634
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:23,960
Thanks for listening.

1635
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:24,480
Be safe.

1636
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:25,040
Have fun.

1637
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:40,240
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