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Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Nate.

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And I'm Mike.

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What are we smoking today, Nate?

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We are smoking an Oliva Connecticut.

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Yes, this we are.

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We've smoked other Olivas, but I don't know if we've ever smoked a Connecticut here.

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We have not.

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This is part of a series of cigars that we're going to smoke on the show.

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So we're going to have a G, we're going to have an O, I think we might have a V. I'd

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like to get my hand on a Cane F, which we smoked the Cane F nub, but I'd like to smoke

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a full-size Cane F.

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Are you doing a cross cut on this one or just the regular V?

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That's a good question.

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I think I'm going to do just a regular V.

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking with the diameter.

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I didn't get a particularly good flavor when I put it in my mouth to wet it, so we'll see.

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It's pretty generic tasting, at least, you know.

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Least initially.

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Okay.

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Not a huge fan of the first puff, but you never judge a cigar by its first puff unless

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it's the fucking under crown.

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You never judge a book by its cover.

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What are you pairing your cigar with, Mike?

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I heard you pouring some stuff before we started.

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Yes, I was running late, ladies and gentlemen.

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I have some Johnny Walker Black and some Ginger Beer.

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I can't remember the brand of the Ginger Beer, but it's a fancy one that you mix with Soda

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Stream stuff.

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There you go.

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I am drinking a Stella Atua.

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Some wife beater.

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Holy shit.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I had a buddy come over earlier in the week and he brought a four pack of Groshe and I

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hadn't had a Groshen forever and kind of got my beer palette thinking, man, I should do

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some Stella.

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Just something a little lighter, not quite as heavy.

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Yeah, it's nice.

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I try to stick to Stella in the summer when it's hot.

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Yeah, it seems like a lot of lake bars have Stella on tap so you can pull up to the dock

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and get a beer at like noon when you're out on the water all day.

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So we were discussing this, Ben.

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We cut ourselves short.

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We have to be very careful about this book that we're going to talk about.

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We're doing a book review.

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We have to be careful about the book and I think the other thing that we need to be careful

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of is because this book is, I guess I was looking at the Wikipedia page for it earlier

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today and it's not a very unbiased Wikipedia page.

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I'm shocked.

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It's a full on conspiracy book and things like that so I think the other thing we need

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to be careful about is that we're not supporting conspiracies or conspiracy theories but we're

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doing a book review of this and then kind of like we try to always do is find out some

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kind of middle ground or just have a discussion about it.

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We're doing this for educational purposes, philosophical purposes.

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We want to see these ideas because there is a ton of ideas presented in this book, a ton.

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So it's not like one idea.

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It's multiple ideas and multiple things so we're just trying to go through some of it.

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We're not experts.

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We're not authors.

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We're not medical professionals and we're not lawyers.

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We are none of those things.

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Also nobody has been sued as a result of this book which if the claims being made were in

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the land of crazy conspiracy, I would assume that there would be at least one person mentioned

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suing the author.

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The author was not nice with nicknames for involved parties.

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No, he directly.

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So we're reviewing The Real Anthony Fauci by Robert Kennedy Jr. for those who aren't

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aware yet.

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And he does not make nicknames up.

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He just says who it was and what they said and what they did and he makes some pretty

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bold claims.

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Well, he does call Fauci what, Little Napoleon quite a few times or something.

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So I mean, he's not one to shy away from nicknames.

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So it's interesting because so in the book here it says, or on the Wikipedia page here

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it says The Real Anthony Fauci and there's a subtitle as well called Bill Gates Big Pharma

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and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health.

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And it's a 2021 book by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in which, and this is Wikipedia's terms,

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in which he attacks Anthony Fauci and his three decades of leadership at the National

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Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

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In the book, Kennedy offers misinformation about Fauci's role during the HIV epidemic

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and the COVID-19 pandemic and HIV AIDS denialism.

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And so it says it was a 480 page book written by anti-vaccination conspiracy theorist Robert

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F. Kennedy Jr. which is interesting because didn't didn't Robert F. Kennedy Jr. kind of

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get his start as an environmental lawyer?

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So I listened to several interviews with him when he was right before he announced that

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he was running for president and he was a environmental lawyer who won a lot of lawsuits

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and he's one of a lot of awards because he is apparently a very competent environmental

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lawyer.

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He was instrumental in getting the Hudson River cleaned up and he's one of the founding

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members of Waterkeepers or something like that if I remember correctly.

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And they kind of go around the globe and sue corporations for polluting waters more or

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less.

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Yeah, worthy of cause as any.

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And then so he didn't get started into the vaccine stuff until the 90s and it happened

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at a conference he was holding about mercury poisoning in a river somewhere.

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Now I can't remember.

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And an advocacy group came up to him and provided him with data and he started doing research

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into it and he actually got a few chemicals they were using in vaccines banned because

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he found data that it was in fact damaging people.

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They were using a type of mercury in the vaccines in the 80s that was correlated with negative

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health outcomes.

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So it's not like he hasn't he's got the chops, right?

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Like he's not necessarily a conspiracy theorist.

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He did file lawsuits and win those lawsuits and prevented certain chemicals from being

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in vaccines in the future.

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So I guess like let's just offer a counterpoint there because I've never met him.

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I've never watched any of his interviews or anything like that.

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I mean it could be a Tom Cruise situation, right?

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Like everybody thinks Tom Cruise in the 90s whatever he's making all these great films

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and then suddenly he's jumping up and down on Oprah Winfrey's couch.

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So there's not the say like that he is or isn't.

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I mean he could be a conspiracy theorist for all I know and I think we're going to get

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into that with some of the things some of the ideas he presented because I have I have

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questions but I think it's weird that they bill him as an anti-vaxxer because I remember

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when when you first told me about this book Mike I was looking him up a little bit and

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it sounded like his children are all vaccinated and that he's not he claims he's not necessarily

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anti-vaccine but he's he's pro safe vaccines and pro right to choose.

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Yes that is his his position according to him is that he is pro informed consent.

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He's pro transparency in medicine and then in the environment and everything else.

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He is personally vaccinated fully against measles mumps rubella all the things that

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we're all vaccinated against his children are vaccinated against these things but he

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is against the current vaccine schedule which he thinks has too many vaccines with too many

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of these inflammatory agents happening.

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You know what I mean he's he's criticizing the schedule and he has criticisms about how

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things are done not he's not against medicine or anything like that.

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Yeah I mean it from his book it doesn't sound like he's against science.

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He's not against medicine but I guess getting into it is he's against the if you believe

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what he says about Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates he's against the one or two people setting

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themselves up as not only the policymakers but the direct beneficiaries of those policies.

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Right well and I don't know how much you mentioned in the book now I can't remember but the way

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that the FDA and the NIH are set up the people who are on the governing boards for who gets

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their vaccines passed get to take profits from the vaccines that they pass so they have

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an economic incentive to get as many medicines out as possible.

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When they also get co-patenting rights or something because Fauci has I don't remember

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how many he said but there's a lot more than you would think somebody that's trying to

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just keep people safe would have.

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Right I mean they're directly profiting from the medicines that they allow to go to market.

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And then if you look at the funding of the agencies like 40 percent of the funding comes

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from the money they get from allowing new drugs to go through.

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You know I mean like they are incentivized to allow drugs to pass.

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A lot of the people on the FDA or on these boards are all formerly employees of Microsoft

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you know yeah yeah according to what he said I didn't go back and do any fact checking

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and stuff and it's funny because I've been reading this book for a while and I know it's

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only four hundred pages but it kind of took me a bit because it's not like an easy breezy

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it's it's very data heavy whether or not you think the data is true or not.

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I mean it's just a data heavy book.

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Well and so one thing that is in his favor is that it is so data heavy and it has references

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for all of these data points.

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So if he fabricated data surely the doctor that he's citing as the producer of this work

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would sue him.

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He's a very rich famous guy.

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You would think that this bestseller book that would have a falsified report would be

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in the court somewhere and now he's running for president so they could take him down

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easily with a lawsuit claiming something like that you know.

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Well and it might I mean so that's the weird thing is he makes all these claims and you

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know to Mike's point you think well if anything in there was was false they would sue him

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or you know pull the book from shelves or or what have you.

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But part of the planning in the last chapter two chapters of the book talk about kind of

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the the germ games kind of like the war games but the Fauci and Bill Gates put on some hey

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what if a pandemic happens that's just like COVID and then like a couple weeks later it

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actually happened or something a couple months later it actually happened and they they had

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a whole section according to to Kennedy about how to squash people that don't agree you

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And so now that he's running for president their plan might just be all we have to do

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is call him a crazy person on in the debates and that's the end of it you know.

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Kennedy's running third party so I don't think anyone's truly worried.

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No well he can't run the Democratic Party they've already said they're not going to

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hold primaries or debates they're going to hold primaries but they're not going to hold

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debates and we all know well people who are aware know that the primaries in the Democratic

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Party do not matter because the superdelegates outnumber the primary delegates so theoretically

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you could win every primary in the country and still lose the nomination to the party

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so it doesn't really matter.

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It doesn't serve any function.

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Let's delve in a little bit into some of the book topics and then I can I can share some

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of my thoughts too and whatnot but do you want to take a stab at going through some

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of the stuff that he's talking about?

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Sure so it's very data heavy so we're going to skip the data largely guys.

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If you want to read it I mean if you're on the fence about whether or not you think certain

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things in the past three to four years were legitimate it might be an interesting read

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for you let's put it that way.

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Would you say that's fair?

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I would say that's fair I would say that I think the way that the pandemic happened at

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first nobody knew what was going on in the general population anyway and I think since

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then and since kind of all the emergency stuff there's been some things that have come out

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that maybe lend a little credence to some of some of the things that he's talking about

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in this book.

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I think I always had a problem with the vaccine mandates.

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I still got vaccinated because you literally couldn't go anywhere but I didn't sit right

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with me that it was mandated.

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You know they were all free but they weren't free but we didn't pay for them out of our

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pockets but all that taxpayer money that we did pay for out of our pockets ended up going

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to these same people that basically tanked the economy because they locked it down for

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three years and they ran a whole bunch of small businesses out and that data that's

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not a conspiracy theory at all because we have the statistics so many small businesses

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closed because they didn't have the capital to pivot to an online model or what have you

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or you know the mandates negatively affected them more and the government kind of told

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people which stores were necessary.

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And they all happened to be major businesses that could buy off government officials just

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coincidentally coincidentally coincidentally.

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Yeah I think the phrase in RFK used and I've heard this from others was that it's the largest

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upward transfer of wealth in the history of our society right.

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Yes and there's data to back that up because the CEOs the upper one percent gained as much

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money as the middle class and everybody else lost in buying power and stuff.

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So oh yeah I mean I'm way worse off than it was you know four years ago let's put it that

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way yeah I shouldn't say way worse off but you know what I mean I mean yeah it hasn't

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been great as far as economics go.

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Yeah so so and he was talking about and I'm going to just butcher these because I just

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you know hydroxychloroquine chloroquine hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.

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And those were two that RFK was saying would drastically help with the COVID-19 symptoms

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and your recovery time.

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he said the reason Fauci and everybody else didn't want those drugs to be used is because

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they were dirt cheap and their patents expired so big pharma couldn't profit off of them.

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So they had to then say that they were horse pills or whatever and the point he makes in

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the book is that these things can be used to deworm horses but they do parasites in

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all mammals and all mammals are similar in regards to parasites I guess so.

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acts on different pathways in the body that essentially it prevents viruses from being

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able to replicate as efficiently so it eliminates it lowers the overall viral load so your body's

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immune response can overcome the what's left in your body.

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It makes a lot of sense.

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It makes sense.

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I make sense.

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I ever met in on the National Library of Medicine here and that's a it's a duck of and it just

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says Ivermectin has been used to treat humans for the past four decades.

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Initially was approved as a broad spectrum anti parasitic agent in 1987 and it was given

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as a mass drug and MDA mass drug administration in endemic countries.

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So it says that it has showed highly significant reduction in viral RNA after 48 hours in relation

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to COVID so 99.8 percent but it was criticized that it achieved that by using a higher dosage

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in comparison to the standard human dose.

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Which RFK's claim was that it did that purposefully.

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They did that on purpose in the study to make it look like it couldn't be used because they

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wanted to use on patent medicines because then Fauci and all of his friends could profit

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on the VEX on these medicines.

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Yes well and here the next sentence on this library of medicine is the anti-COVID activity

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in real life patients who were treated with a standard dose of three days of Ivermectin

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showed significant reduction in culture viability compared to the placebo group.

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So it seems like there is some science to back up at least the Ivermectin.

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Yes so he mentioned other things other than those two which were.

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Those were kind of the two big ones.

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He also mentioned zinc.

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Zinc which I didn't know until COVID that you could use zinc to lower your viral load

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of the common cold.

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So you should be taking zinc basically all winter.

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I take zinc.

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I've been taking zinc every day since I read this book.

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Not that I believe what he says.

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I actually started taking zinc in 21 during the winter time because apparently it helps

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you fight off viruses and I was like well.

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Well we've been getting weird summer colds too so.

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We have small kids so I might just as well just take it all year.

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Like who cares.

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Right.

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And vitamin D. See vitamin D was talked about in 21 as well because initially the groups

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in the United States that were getting hit the hardest were like the Somali population

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down in Minneapolis and they investigated it and the same group was having issues in

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Sweden.

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Okay.

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And because their vitamin D was low because they're very dark skinned people in very northern

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climates and they wear lots of clothes in the summer so they were getting enough vitamin

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D production.

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So that's actually backed up external to the book.

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You know.

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Yes.

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And I've been taking vitamin D. I went in for labs one about a year ago and my doctor

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was like yeah you probably need to just take a vitamin D supplement but I didn't spend

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a whole lot of time in the sun this summer.

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It was a weird summer.

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But yeah I do vitamin D and zinc.

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Adam to your regular.

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I mean we're not doctors or nutritionists but there's enough other good data out there

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that you could make an informed decision.

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Right.

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I'm about halfway done with this cigar Mike.

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I'm not quite halfway but I'm just behind you.

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I don't know.

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It's okay.

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It's fine.

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It's not.

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It's not bad.

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It's not.

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It's got just a tinge of bitterness I think that I'm not really jiving with.

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Yeah it's it's a little off.

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I don't know what it is but it could be.

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I don't think it's just you if we're both having things like there's a little thing

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off there but I don't know.

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Who knows.

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It's tough to say sometimes.

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Right.

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So I think.

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Oh go on Mike.

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Oh no I was gonna say in relation to the actual covid arguments he basically to sum it up

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like I say we can't get into everything because it's so data driven but the gist was that

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Anthony Fauci is in charge of funding research and he refused to fund accurate research and

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the research he did fund into off-patent medicines was purposefully botched and he showed a couple

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studies where they gave 400 times the safe dose of hydroxychloroquine and then of course

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people died from the overdose but they gave 400 times the safe dose and 200 times the

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dose they know is going to kill everyone.

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So that's a pretty bold claim.

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Yeah it's not the boldest claim of the book but.

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No the bolder claims come later.

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Yeah yeah we'll save those kind of more for the end I guess if we get into them.

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Yeah I mean he walks through all these things and basically the first maybe half of the

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book explains how these different boards and oversight committees get made and how they

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are populated with Fauci and Gates crew.

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And yeah industry insiders.

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And how they are able to patent anything that the company that their government body creates

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they can also get you know the patents so they also get royalties for every unit sold

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and it just kind of explains I mean everybody knows everybody should know that there's huge

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money to be made in American health care and pharmaceuticals and treatment and insurance

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everything related to medical.

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So that shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody.

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And it shouldn't come as a surprise that regulatory capture happens in many industries in the

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United States and that there's a revolving door between the regulators and the companies

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that are being regulated.

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So oftentimes the people who are acting as the regulator used to work for the company

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that they are now regulating and are going to work for them again in the future.

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Yes almost like being a Supreme Court justice and deciding cases from the cruise ship that

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the person you're trying to trying to case against puts you up on or something of that

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nature.

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Yeah I mean it's yeah exactly.

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You're on your worldwide trip and you're calling cases against the very people that paid for

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your worldwide trip every year for 30 years.

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I know this guy he's a stand up fellow and he did nothing wrong.

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Yep surely.

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I think in order I mean it's only 480 pages but like we said at the top there's so many

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claims are made so many things are discussed and it doesn't really feel helter skelter

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in the book.

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I mean it kind of follows.

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I mean there are a couple of times I was like okay we're shifting gears and jumping over

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here now and it all kind of ties ties back.

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But he was also talking about and this is and we mentioned this on it was on the Wikipedia

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where he's talking about and it was really weird because he phrases things very strangely

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sometimes in this book.

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So there is one and I remember reading it and it was he was talking about how HIV totally

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does not cause AIDS because of the way they defined HIV was so broad that almost anybody

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who tests for HIV will have it because they've made the definition of HIV so broad that there's

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not really a single HIV thing and people who said that they found like the HIV I don't

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know if it's the protein or the cell or the whatever it is have since recanted and said

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that they actually didn't find it.

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But then at the end of that chapter he says I don't disbelieve that HIV causes AIDS just

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for the record.

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So I don't really understand what the point of right.

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That is unless he's just trying to see see why you know covers.

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Well the point was in that this is what I think is it was an example of how Anthony

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Fauci systematically muddies the water.

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Yeah.

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So that you don't know what is and what is not true.

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And that way he and his buddies can patent medicines and get them passed through all

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of these little boards and then they profiteer on it because he's the highest paid government

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employee and he's the one that's the power broker handing out grant money.

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So everybody wants to do what Anthony wants.

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That's he's like the little kingpin on this system.

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He's like the mob boss if you help him do his thing he'll he'll toss you some some good

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stuff your way or whatever.

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So that part that part is I you know and I've been reading this book for a while and I told

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my Sarah about it which I guess was a little bit of a mistake.

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She's like oh you're reading that conspiracy book again huh.

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And I was so I finally like sat down with her and I was like we had a we had a date

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night and so we were able to talk uninterrupted and I was like yeah you know it's interesting

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I don't know if I believe every single thing in it but the thing is that if even one of

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the things in this book is true it's it's huge.

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Like if even one of the things is true it's huge.

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So yes I guess that's kind of my my viewpoint on the book.

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Well it is true.

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So it is true that the Bill Gates Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation caused a polio outbreak.

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Yeah they caused a polio outbreak.

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They put what live polio cultures in their vaccines.

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Yeah they're they're using a vaccine that's been banned in the United States and Europe

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because they we had a polio outbreak from this style of vaccine but they still had a

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patented so they could still make profit on it and charge the governments for it.

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So they gave them this lesser vaccine that's more dangerous to these third world countries

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and then charge their governments for it which ultimately came out of the American taxpayer

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dollar because they're getting medical funding.

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Yeah and it goes back probably to the confessions of an economic hitman where they have the

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World Bank or something and they offer to fund infrastructure for these third world

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countries or these less well-off countries and they can get a loan for this and then

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these big pharma people are still getting paid.

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They don't care where it gets where it comes from.

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Right.

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And he did RFK did make several several not straight out.

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I don't think accusations but some references to they were using these clinical trials and

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Bill Gates is using the let's eradicate whatever from the armpit of the world.

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No offense if you live in the armpit of the world.

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Anyone in the panhandle of Oklahoma I'm sorry that you live there.

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You can move but no I'm just going to these other foreign countries and they were doing

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it to establish a foothold for oil or gold or other American interests in that area outside

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of health things but the health reason opened the door to get Americans in there.

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Right and that's a well-known strategy.

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Yeah it doesn't sound out of the realm of reality.

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If you don't research any of this stuff you're like I can see them doing that.

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It sounds perfectly reasonable.

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I will get put a criticism out is he was using data from countries that I don't think are

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going to provide reliable data.

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I know it was the first chapter something he was like in China eradicated covid in the

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first three months that's I guarantee you that's bullshit.

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He listed like Canada the United States France Belgium Japan communist China and Algeria.

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Like yeah yeah these are not all the same.

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South Korea and Algeria.

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I believe data from South Korea.

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I do not believe data from Sudan.

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Okay.

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Or China.

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Or yeah the North Korean dictator went and punched all the covid out of North Korea or

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something.

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Right.

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I think India is probably pretty good and reliable but I'm going to guess that the data

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from Inner Mongolia is less so you know like they just don't have the infrastructure.

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It's not that they're bad actors they just don't have the infrastructure to be able to

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accurately record it.

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Yeah they don't have the reporting.

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They don't have the reporting.

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Right and he talked about how our data the United States data was manipulated and that

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is also true.

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That is right.

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That is also true.

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I remember that is also true.

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Oh so and so died of covid.

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It could be well they maybe had covid like symptoms and then they got into an automobile

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accident covid or something.

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I mean it was almost as ridiculous as that.

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I remember.

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Yeah.

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I mean this is like an apocryphal story so don't take it as gospel anybody.

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But my co-workers brother-in-law died in a motorcycle crash and they said that he died

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of covid according to him.

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Now whether is that true.

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You know I don't know.

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But they've had covid on his death certificate all the same and he flipped a motorcycle on

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the highway.

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Yeah.

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And again I cannot verify that story.

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Yeah.

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But I mean it's not out of the realm of possibility because I saw some pretty crazy stories on

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the Internet.

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Therefore it has to be true right.

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Exactly.

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But yeah anyway so there's enough people that criticize the government's response and I

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think if you're on the fence if the government exploited the pandemic.

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I mean I'm not saying the pandemic didn't happen.

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I'm just saying if you're on the fence on whether or not the pandemic the government

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exploited the pandemic probably a good book for you to read just to get a different viewpoint.

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Yeah yeah.

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We have to be very careful about the details and the claims made because we don't want

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to get in trouble and we are not part of the royal family of the United States.

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So we don't have the sort of economic backing and protection that our of KJU has.

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Yeah neither neither of us neither of our last names are Kennedy Bush Clinton Gates

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Musk.

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So you know Bezos.

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We are not of the Bezos clan.

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Yeah we're just whatever.

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But I did find it interesting that Bezos and Gates owned a lot of newspapers at least according

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to RFK.

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Oh they do.

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Post.

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Yeah.

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So then I mean that just further proves that you're not going to get.

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So of course all the I mean you know if you if you get it let's just for a moment go down

469
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,120
and say hey RFK is 100 percent absolutely telling the truth.

470
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,120
He's not exaggerating.

471
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,160
He's not lying.

472
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,160
He says the truth.

473
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,840
Well all these people he's criticizing in this book own all the newspapers and the media.

474
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,960
So of course if they want to call him a conspiracy nut and put it on his Wikipedia page then

475
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,280
they certainly could.

476
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,840
And they did because I just read him like this is not a not an impartial Wikipedia page

477
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:20,840
for this.

478
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,400
No and Wikipedia is a well known environmental lawyer.

479
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,000
Yeah.

480
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,120
World renowned environmental lawyer who's won many cases who's also won cases in court

481
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,400
involving chemicals and vaccines that were removed.

482
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,320
So it's not like he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

483
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,840
He's not a no he's not he's not a psycho.

484
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,680
He's he's not talking out of his ass.

485
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,240
He has a record of having done these things like in reality.

486
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,560
Not living in an RV down by the river off the grid.

487
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:58,120
You know no he personally knows Anthony Fauci and has for years.

488
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,760
He is a part of the ruling elite of the country.

489
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,200
So yeah he's kind of kind of a whistleblower.

490
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,680
I mean I know that I got vaccinated right away because I believed the claims that were

491
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,780
made on television that it would prevent you from passing the facts or the virus along.

492
00:31:14,780 --> 00:31:17,360
And I know a lot of elderly people my parents are elderly.

493
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,120
I bowl with a lot of elderly people and I didn't want to be responsible.

494
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,120
We're not even talking bowling.

495
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,240
I know right.

496
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,920
I didn't want to be responsible for getting one of them sick with covid and possibly dying

497
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,920
right.

498
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,920
Yeah.

499
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:36,840
So there was a court case in Europe and the European Union brought up a spokesperson for

500
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:43,360
Pfizer and Pfizer openly said that they never claimed that the vaccine would stop transmission

501
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,920
and they never tested it.

502
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,920
Yeah.

503
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,160
But Rachel Maddow was certainly telling people that the president of the United States was

504
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,560
certain to certainly telling people that.

505
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,600
So the company itself never made that claim.

506
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:01,440
But the spokespeople that these companies are paying they said it right like Pfizer

507
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,400
or paying CNN and CNN says it.

508
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,400
Yeah.

509
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,400
Yeah.

510
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,280
Similar story to me is you know I had a small child at the time and I wanted to get vaccinated

511
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,600
of my own free will.

512
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,040
I didn't like that it was mandated but I would have I would have gotten vaccinated anyway

513
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,920
because we had a newborn right at the time.

514
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,960
And I was like well if I don't get sick then my newborn can't get sick.

515
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:30,040
And you know they didn't have anything approved for children until I think a year ago a year

516
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,760
and a half ago maybe.

517
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,680
And it was the same thing if I get vaccinated then I won't get it and I won't pass it.

518
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,440
But then all the data came out that you can have it but be non symptomatic and you can

519
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,800
still pass it along to other people who may or may not be symptomatic.

520
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:52,200
So you know and I think that the part where in the book where RFK was saying that Fauci

521
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,920
would invent or he'd have people invent this new vaccine he would go to the media before

522
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,520
the scientific journal was even published before the peer review phase and say we've

523
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,760
got this brand new thing it's going to kick this disease's butt.

524
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,920
Go get it.

525
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,240
And he just didn't end around around the scientific process.

526
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,080
Right he'd he'd sweeten the well.

527
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,200
It's like the opposite of poisoning the well in a conversation.

528
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,780
He'd sweeten it up but also never claimed he was making money on it.

529
00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:21,360
You know of course he wants you to take it.

530
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,520
Never disclosed that he was making money on it.

531
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,760
Yeah for disclosed that he was going to make money on it.

532
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,760
Yeah right.

533
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,760
And Bill Gates too.

534
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,280
They had Bill Gates on TV talking about it and he was a major stakeholder in the company

535
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,440
that was manufacturing the vaccine.

536
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,280
Yeah that was never disclosed that Bill Gates is going to make a half a billion dollars

537
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,640
on this thing or whatever.

538
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,760
And you would think making a ton of money.

539
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,280
You would think that he being that rich would make him immune to wanting to make more money

540
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,200
but that is not how it works.

541
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,200
No that's not how it's work.

542
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,440
It's like you give somebody cocaine and they say no I had it once.

543
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,720
They don't need it ever again.

544
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,440
That's not usually how that goes.

545
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,480
No they want more.

546
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,160
They want all of it.

547
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:05,360
And the research I actually looked this up to verify my data but the research that they

548
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:11,760
conducted in the last decade has shown and proven that the wealthier somebody is the

549
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,840
more cognitive dissidents they have about people who are poor.

550
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,400
So somebody like Bill Gates probably views the average person as no different than a

551
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,800
lab rat.

552
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:28,720
From his perspective we are just rats that he can test on and exploit.

553
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:32,000
It's like talking to the people who get psychotic.

554
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,720
Yeah one of the later chapters of the book alleges that Gates and Fauci and company have

555
00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:43,280
killed I don't know tens of thousands if not more kids and people in these poor countries

556
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,360
they test their vaccines on because they don't have the same testing restrictions or requirements

557
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:54,680
that you know say America or Canada or pretty much any country in Europe have to protect

558
00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:01,320
citizens from from this and they oftentimes ran without a placebo group and allegedly

559
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:08,500
according to RFK would give these known known poisonous vaccines to people telling them

560
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:14,040
that they were vitamins or boosters or something and not ever fully disclosing what was what

561
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,440
they were actually giving them.

562
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,440
Yes.

563
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,160
Allegedly by the author of the book.

564
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,880
Alleged by the author of the book and he has not been sued for claiming that.

565
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,600
I think he did call them mass murderers at one point.

566
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,040
Oh I'm sure he did.

567
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:33,360
I think he did say that Fauci and Bill Gates were mass murderers.

568
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,560
We are not saying that.

569
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,360
Robert Kennedy Jr. made that claim and a claim like that that did it.

570
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,360
He did not.

571
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,360
He has not been sued for that.

572
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,200
This is a bestselling book and he has not been sued for that claim.

573
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,200
Yes.

574
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,800
The other thing to be aware of I think Mike is that you can't I don't know that you can't

575
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:58,960
but it's it's pretty hard to slander or libel someone who's a public figure in America.

576
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,120
You can pretty much say what if you want about somebody as long as it's not threatening as

577
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,360
long as you're not threatening their life if they're a public figure and if you it depends

578
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:13,180
on how you say things too if you say I think Bill Gates is a mass murderer is different

579
00:36:13,180 --> 00:36:15,760
than saying Bill Gates is a mass murderer.

580
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,040
Just for example this is just philosophically I don't believe Bill Gates is a mass murderer

581
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,800
or I do I don't know it doesn't matter.

582
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,800
That's not the point.

583
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,980
The point is the phrasing of things and as a lawyer even an environmental lawyer how

584
00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:33,880
you phrase things is paramount one tenth of the law of possession is nine tenths.

585
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,600
You know the phrasing is the other the other tenth but right.

586
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,640
Well he also the thing is is that he made the claim and then he backed it up with evidence.

587
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:46,280
So you think that they could at least sue over his evidence or refute his evidence or

588
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,280
something.

589
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,440
I mean this is not a nothing burger.

590
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,720
No I'd have to look at it a lot more.

591
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:57,200
I'd have to read it with a different mindset in seeing how he phrases if he says the evidence

592
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,920
says that Bill Gates is a mass murderer or did he say I R.F.K. think Bill Gates is a

593
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,200
mass murderer or did he say you know like what was the phrasing you know.

594
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,200
I don't know.

595
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,200
Yeah you're right.

596
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,160
I'm sure he really went and scrubbed it many times before he published it.

597
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,900
I'm sure that he doesn't seem like a person that wants to open himself up to litigation.

598
00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:21,960
He has publicly called for both of them to sue him if any of the claims in the book are

599
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,320
false.

600
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,080
But that's again he's a public figure they're a public figure.

601
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:32,120
You can see a lot of shit in the United States and get away with it.

602
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,240
I guess the last little bit the last like chapter two or whatever it might have been

603
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:37,240
I don't remember exactly.

604
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:41,880
He was talking about and this is what I wanted to talk to you about Mike because I figure

605
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,880
you're the kind of person that might have already done the research on this or you might

606
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,960
have your own opinions on it.

607
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:54,120
And I remember this is a big topic in the height of the pandemic is R.F.K. was saying

608
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:59,000
that vaccines cause autism in this book.

609
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,480
He said that he did not exactly say that he has never publicly said that exact thing.

610
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:10,240
He says that there is a spike point in the data where autism started to dramatically

611
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:16,760
increase which was 1984 which coincides with the increase in the vaccine schedule to the

612
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,920
modern vaccine schedule.

613
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:25,560
That's the beginning and that there's a direct correlation between the increasing aggressiveness

614
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,000
of the vaccine schedule and increasing rates of autism.

615
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,000
OK yeah.

616
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Yes.

617
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,080
I mean it certainly seemed he certainly seemed to be saying vaccines cause autism.

618
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,360
He's saying that he thinks that they're correlated.

619
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:46,120
He thinks that the correlation is correlation does not prove causation or does not equal

620
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,120
causation.

621
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,120
That is correct.

622
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,880
Well I mean there could be other factors.

623
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,400
I don't I don't know.

624
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,560
I didn't I didn't look into any of that.

625
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,880
Well I looked I've looked into it and there is a correlation but there's also a correlation

626
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,040
between or correlation.

627
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,920
We were spraying massive amounts of petrochemicals from the end of World War 2 into the 1960s

628
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:12,080
and the 80s is the first generation who were the children of the people who were growing

629
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,640
up when those chemicals were being sprayed.

630
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:23,080
So it could be due to the mutagenic chemicals that were being sprayed everywhere in the

631
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,280
United States.

632
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:30,440
I also wonder about cigarette smoking because I remember as a kid we'd go to like Perkins

633
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,160
or Wendy's or something and they'd ask you on smoking or not smoking.

634
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,760
But you're getting secondhand smoke regardless because they just close like a like a door.

635
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,440
It's not a airtight door.

636
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,440
It's not anything.

637
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,880
There's no ventilation in there.

638
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,840
It's all just smoking basically.

639
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,760
So I you know could that be.

640
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,760
I don't know.

641
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,720
I'm not I'm not a scientist or doctor.

642
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:53,760
And again the kids born in the 80s are going to be the second generation of kids who were

643
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,120
born by mothers who were smokers.

644
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:02,520
You know is was smoking in the womb for two generations in a row a mutagenic.

645
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,200
There's a lot of factors.

646
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:09,320
I am not subscribing to the idea that vaccines cause autism.

647
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,320
OK.

648
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,320
No I know.

649
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:18,400
I'm just saying like I feel like there's a lot of factors that are at play.

650
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:24,960
Yes I feel like he lost me a little bit because I wanted him to mention some of these other

651
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,160
factors and understand.

652
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,160
I understand.

653
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,800
Yeah I mean I understand his book is you know Fowlshank Gates are evil and what the government

654
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,320
did during the covid pandemic is evil and they've been doing evil for some time tests

655
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,880
for a long time which is you know sure.

656
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:45,400
That's all stuff I can get behind you know using trying to use just simply just correlation

657
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,120
and not talking about other things that may or may not impact it.

658
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,320
Just just kind of lost me a little bit because I was I guess I was wanting a little more

659
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,440
from that section.

660
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,440
But I agree.

661
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:01,120
Well I thought it was as weak as his use of data from questionable countries.

662
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,120
Right.

663
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,520
Like that's probably not.

664
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,400
I mean it's good to add it in but you don't want to rely too heavy on that data.

665
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,400
Right.

666
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:16,880
But just like like like I say he on the record has caused the government to ban certain chemicals

667
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,280
from being in vaccines that were in vaccines.

668
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,080
So he has done boots on the ground work in this area.

669
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,880
Yes but it's certainly not the only environmental factor you know.

670
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:27,880
Yeah yeah.

671
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,280
How about the introduction of plastics into everything.

672
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,280
Right.

673
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,400
Like there's a lot of swimming with micro plastics or some.

674
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:40,880
Yeah there's a lot of environmental factors that are going on that all add up to changes.

675
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,880
So yeah.

676
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,880
Yeah.

677
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,960
And the other thing I didn't like about the book was he used a lot of the same phrases

678
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:53,360
repeatedly and it just was kind of got a little repetitive with I don't know if I'll pronounce

679
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,600
or ever like the coup de coup de tat or coup de coup de coup de ta.

680
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Yeah he used it like coup de gras 57 times.

681
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Yes.

682
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Chapter or something.

683
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:09,320
So I was kind of I was kind of thinking OK it's losing its oomph if you're going to keep

684
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,120
using it you know save that right.

685
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,760
And then or something.

686
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,320
He was on message.

687
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,600
He really does not like Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci.

688
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,600
Yeah.

689
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,600
And that's fair.

690
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,600
Yeah.

691
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,600
Well that is fair.

692
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,080
Like you said I don't like I don't like any one of his claims.

693
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,200
Epstein Island.

694
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,200
So right.

695
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,760
Well that's a fact.

696
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:28,760
You're right.

697
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,360
That is a fact.

698
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,560
And well if one of the claims that he made are true there's a serious problem.

699
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,320
He made a lot of claims and he had a lot of evidence to back up every single thing that

700
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,320
he said.

701
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,800
Maybe not all of it was true but maybe not.

702
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,440
But it's all I think that's the important thing and I think that's you know why I wanted

703
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,200
to talk about it was it's it's an interesting thought experiment.

704
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,440
And we've talked about this before when I told you I read the case for Christ.

705
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,040
That's not a book I would normally read.

706
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,360
I would not normally read this book.

707
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,640
This you read it because I suggested it.

708
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,080
Yeah I read it because you suggested it.

709
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,480
I would I went into it and I was like I don't know what this is going to be.

710
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,080
This this could be some weird weird crap or this could be interesting.

711
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,480
And I think at the end of the day is an interesting thought experiment.

712
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:22,120
And if even if even one thing that he said was true then he should be exonerated.

713
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,120
You know what I mean.

714
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,120
Right.

715
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,340
But he has made some pretty crazy claims about political stuff that I don't agree with.

716
00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:33,720
It's not like I'm a big RFK supporter in some like religious sense or anything.

717
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:38,080
You know like I'm not like we've talked about this before on the show is pretty much I'm

718
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,320
not a fan of any politician that's willingly there.

719
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,320
You know what I mean.

720
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,320
Right.

721
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,400
And he did references his was was Ted his uncle.

722
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,400
Yes.

723
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,480
So he referenced Ted Kennedy.

724
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,480
He's like well I was really proud my uncle went in and busted this thing up in the 80s.

725
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,320
And then he was like I was really proud of my uncle Ted when he did this in the 90s.

726
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,120
And OK.

727
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,240
He's an elite.

728
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:04,920
He's an elite American.

729
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,920
You know what I mean.

730
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,040
Like his his experience is in this world are not the same as ours.

731
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,400
No I mean and I feel like that was him trying to connect with his audience.

732
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,200
Like I was probably my uncle did.

733
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:21,000
Yeah my uncle my uncle was on the police force for a while.

734
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,400
What do you want me to say.

735
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,400
I don't know.

736
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,400
Right.

737
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,400
Oh he flexed like.

738
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,400
Yeah.

739
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,480
He was a hydroxychloroquine for years.

740
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,240
We went to Africa on Safari you know three four times a year every year.

741
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:36,840
Just like every average American does.

742
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:43,920
But he it was a great example because hydroxychloroquine is an over the counter in most of the world.

743
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,440
It's as safe as Tylenol.

744
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,360
It was here until Covid.

745
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,760
It is as safe as Tylenol when you take it in the correct dose.

746
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,960
Not 100 times the regular dose.

747
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,560
Like the safe dose is the safe dose.

748
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,820
You know it's like iodine.

749
00:44:58,820 --> 00:45:01,560
If you drink a bottle of iodine you're probably not going to be feeling very good.

750
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,560
You know what I mean.

751
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,560
Yeah.

752
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,920
Well it's the same as ibuprofen or anything else.

753
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,280
You know if you take above the thing then you might have issues.

754
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,280
Right.

755
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,440
I think I probably had hydroxychloroquine because I went to India for a month and I

756
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,560
definitely had to take malaria pills.

757
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,560
Oh yeah.

758
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,560
So whatever those were.

759
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,040
And you're OK for the most part.

760
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,240
Yeah I mean I didn't I didn't die.

761
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:24,360
I was there in the winter so that helps.

762
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,360
Yeah.

763
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,360
Yeah.

764
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,360
Yeah.

765
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,360
But yeah.

766
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,320
I think I think by and large is an interesting book.

767
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:35,200
I don't I don't know that I 100 percent agree with everything but there's some pretty bold

768
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,800
claims pretty bold claims.

769
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:43,400
There's a lot of claims that seem well within the realm of possibility especially with how

770
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,280
the big pharma and the FDA approval process works.

771
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,280
Yes.

772
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,880
I think anytime you read any kind of book or even any kind of news article like who's

773
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,080
writing it and why.

774
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,960
You know R.F.K. just hates Fauci and Gates.

775
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,960
So that's his motivation.

776
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:00,960
Yep.

777
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:01,960
Yeah.

778
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,200
He thinks that they're monstrosities for sure.

779
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,200
Yeah.

780
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,960
And I mean I don't necessarily disagree with that.

781
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,320
I don't disagree with that.

782
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:14,480
But that also doesn't mean that R.F.K. is not also a type of monstrosity either being

783
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,480
part of the ruling class.

784
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,480
Right.

785
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,480
And he was born into the purple.

786
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,480
No doubt about it.

787
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,480
Yeah.

788
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,760
So it's an interesting thought experiment and it's a good thing to talk about.

789
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:33,120
I think I do think that a lot of people looking back at the covid-19 pandemic will tell you

790
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,160
that a lot of American rights were violated throughout.

791
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,400
Yes.

792
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,640
Regardless of where you stand on vaccines and masking and all that stuff.

793
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,680
We I told the story a couple of episodes back when we were talking about our favorite bookstores

794
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,960
where I went into one and it was twenty twenty three and they were still requiring masks

795
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,040
in the store and I put one on to go in.

796
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,600
You know they had them there.

797
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,280
If they wouldn't have had them there I would have left because I don't carry a mask on

798
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,280
me.

799
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,280
But right.

800
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,280
Yeah.

801
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,560
We it was last summer I want to say I think it was twenty two.

802
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,840
Sarah and I were down in the metro.

803
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,920
I was at a conference and we wanted to swing through and get coffee and a donut at the

804
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,120
shop on a corner that she went to growing up and we couldn't get coffee because you

805
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,720
couldn't go in without a mask and they weren't supplying them.

806
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:18,680
It was the middle of summer in twenty two.

807
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,560
It's like yeah a little late here fellas ladies and fellas.

808
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,480
I don't know what to tell you.

809
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:29,400
I remember I remember when they announced they had the vaccine and people were starting

810
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:34,640
to get vaccinated and I went with Dave who we had on the show.

811
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:39,200
We went to the grocery store and I drove and he was going to run in and grab something

812
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,200
from the grocery store and he was like what the it just the news just came out about the

813
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,440
masks and the and the and the vaccine and everything.

814
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,440
And he's like do you think I need to put my mask on.

815
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,720
I said go keep it in your pocket and try and go in without it on.

816
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:54,000
And he it was so weird.

817
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,240
It was like it was like the the Berlin Wall had just fallen.

818
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:59,600
He came back out and he goes I went in there and I didn't put a mask on.

819
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,060
Nobody told me to put a mask on.

820
00:48:01,060 --> 00:48:02,440
Nobody else in there had a mask on.

821
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,480
It's like I feel liberated.

822
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,840
And it was a weird feeling to feel that as an American citizen.

823
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,200
And that's how you know you're probably Stockholm syndrome into some of this stuff.

824
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,680
Oh for sure.

825
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,660
Like where I live we had two different lockdowns.

826
00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:22,440
The first lockdown was followed and the second one was largely ignored here.

827
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,440
Yeah.

828
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,560
Basically they just put wall.

829
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,520
They just put you know they locked the door and you had to call them to come in.

830
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,520
You know what I mean.

831
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,920
It was like very much disregarded.

832
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,920
Yeah.

833
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:39,000
Well there's and there's an interesting point in the book too where they said I think it

834
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,600
was what three years was kind of the max that the population was going to follow some of

835
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,600
these things.

836
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,600
Yeah.

837
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:49,360
So it's like in their simulations that they that they ran for a pandemic like situation.

838
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,680
So when you hear about some of these and those were interesting those different simulations

839
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,720
that they did because when you hear about these they're doing back in the 90s and stuff

840
00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:04,360
and then up until you know 2019 or you know early 2020 it's like well okay they've already

841
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,160
they've already had this well thought out and orchestrated for a long time.

842
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,160
Right.

843
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:15,120
Well just you know I'm not saying it didn't keep people safe but I think our case point

844
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,640
is that there are other things that could have been done safer.

845
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,960
He said nobody was stockpiling masks.

846
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:26,000
Nobody was looking at over the counter remedies or off patent remedies.

847
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,920
And you know so I think I think kind of what we said earlier is the government response

848
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,880
was less than what it should have been regardless of how much of this book you believe or don't

849
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,880
believe.

850
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:43,280
I think that everybody can agree that the government response was inadequate and possibly

851
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,960
incompetent on purpose.

852
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,960
And also a lot of the fear mongering on Bill Gates's part was self-serving.

853
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,840
I don't remember if he brought it up but Microsoft made a bunch of money as a result of everybody

854
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,440
moving over to Microsoft Teams.

855
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:07,640
And yeah I mean even my place of business moved from Skype to Teams because Teams is

856
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,720
top control right.

857
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:12,480
So yeah of course everybody's going to move.

858
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,480
Yeah.

859
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,720
Teams was ready for everybody to move to a mobile meeting system.

860
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:19,320
And I like using it.

861
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,320
We still use it.

862
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,320
It's nice.

863
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,320
It's very convenient.

864
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:27,040
But I mean you can't deny that Bill Gates made a shit ton of money just from that.

865
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,360
You know just from that one thing.

866
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,240
Work from home is great for these IT people.

867
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:33,960
And Bezos made a ton of money.

868
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:39,520
So of course the Washington Post is going to be supporting the lockdowns because ultimately

869
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,440
their owner is making bank you know.

870
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,200
Yeah for sure.

871
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,200
So for sure.

872
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,720
But my fingers are burning on this one Mike.

873
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:52,280
Yes I am near the end.

874
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:58,480
Like I agree with you that if you're listening and you're interested in the read you should

875
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,100
read it.

876
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:02,440
It does make some very bold claims.

877
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,000
Take everything with a grain of salt or do some additional research on the areas that

878
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,720
you have issues with.

879
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:09,360
I mean you know like Mike and I.

880
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,720
Yeah he's quoting stats from China.

881
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:12,720
OK bud.

882
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:13,720
Right.

883
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:14,960
That some of the vaccine cause autism stuff.

884
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:15,960
Is it true?

885
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:16,960
Isn't it true?

886
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,520
I know it's a very very touchy subject.

887
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,520
I don't know.

888
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,520
Yeah.

889
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,360
I was like he doesn't mention that chapter.

890
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:28,520
So I was turned off largely because he didn't mention any of the other factors that could

891
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:29,520
have played a role.

892
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,040
Like there's correlation and there's causation and the causation has to be more complicated

893
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,360
than just one thing.

894
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,360
Most likely.

895
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,360
Right.

896
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,360
So probably probably.

897
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,360
Right.

898
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,400
But yeah if I have my boss reading it.

899
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,400
Yeah.

900
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,400
He's.

901
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,320
I know it's got a lot.

902
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,800
It's got it's almost it's got to be four and a half four and three quarters out of five

903
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:52,800
on Goodreads.

904
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,800
I gave it a four.

905
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,320
I just I thought it was interesting.

906
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:01,160
There are a few chapters that I kind of took issue with or a few things that he mentioned

907
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,320
that I took issue with.

908
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,240
His writing style is is fine.

909
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:05,240
It's serviceable.

910
00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:08,560
It's a lot of the same phrases and things but.

911
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,920
It's written by a lawyer very clearly written by a lawyer.

912
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,360
So very data heavy.

913
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,360
Yes.

914
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,680
So cigar.

915
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,680
I thought it was perfectly adequate.

916
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,440
Second half was better than the first half.

917
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,240
I had second half was better.

918
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:24,240
It's light.

919
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:27,560
It has that little tinge in the first half like a tang to it.

920
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,040
Never really left for me.

921
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,360
But oh mine did.

922
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,200
But I'm also a glass of whiskey down.

923
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,640
So that probably helps.

924
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:36,640
It probably does.

925
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,640
Yeah.

926
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:38,640
I don't know.

927
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,400
I think if you want to Connecticut there's better Connecticut's out there.

928
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,720
But yeah there is.

929
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:43,720
There is.

930
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:44,720
It's fine.

931
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:45,720
The nub Connecticut was better in my opinion.

932
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:46,720
Yeah.

933
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:47,720
Yeah.

934
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:48,720
And there are some other Connecticut's that were really good.

935
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:52,440
I can't remember now offhand but they're out there on our on our episode list.

936
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,440
So yes yes.

937
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,440
All right.

938
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:55,440
Well thanks for listening.

939
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,440
Be safe.

940
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:23,440
Have fun.