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Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Nate.

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And I'm Mike.

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What are we smoking today, Nate?

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We are smoking.

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And now it looks like it was, it's been made by hand if my Spanish is legit still.

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And it's from Nicaragua and it's the joya black.

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Is it joya or is it joya?

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Well, if my Spanish is on point, it is totally joya.

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I'm just kidding.

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I'm fucking with you.

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It's probably joya.

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Okay.

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I don't know.

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I never took Spanish.

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Well, and I don't remember.

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I don't remember what Spanish for black is either.

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Crayola has been getting, have you seen that Mike?

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Crayola on like social media, people have been calling out their black crayons because

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it has the Spanish translation of black, which I can't remember what it is.

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Crayola is like, no, no, that's a Spanish word for that color.

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It's not actually referring to people of a certain race.

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The really ironic thing about that is I believe those comments were actually directed at Ikea

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and answered by Crayola.

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So what are we going to talk about today?

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Well, I thought we were going to talk about a modern classic, like one of the greatest

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films that I've ever seen.

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And it's strange because most of the great films I've seen are, you know, five, 10, 15,

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20, 30 plus years old.

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And this one's like brand new just about and instant classic.

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Oh, you're talking about Oppenheimer?

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No, no, Mike.

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The other one.

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Barbie Barbie.

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Everything's pink.

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Everything is pink.

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I really like the style of the movie, by the way.

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The visuals were great.

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Yeah, the visuals were great.

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There are a lot of actually good things about it, mostly like when the end credits rolled

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is then it was over.

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Oh, my.

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What are you pairing your cigar with today?

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Yes, I am pairing it with a Sierra Nevada Big Little Thing IPA, which matches that one

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Barbie we saw in the movie, the big Barbie.

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Yes, I had to I had to ask my Sarah if Barbie made a big Barbie.

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And she was like, no, they don't make a big Barbie.

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They actually did.

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Mattel made a plus size Barbie a few years ago when I started rolling out their disabled

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Barbies as part of their inclusion.

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She wasn't really all that plus size like plus size models are not all that plus size,

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but she does exist.

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So you man's plane to your Sarah that there is no such thing as a plus size Barbie.

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No, I asked my Sarah if there was a plus size Barbie and she told me no.

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She told me no.

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OK, and no handicap Barbie either.

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Well, no, that's the thing is, I remember when I was shopping for Barbies for myself

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that they have the wheelchair Barbies.

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OK, and I think they have like a Down syndrome Barbie and an autistic Barbie and even a vegan

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Barbie, if you can believe that a vegan Barbie.

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Oh, my.

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Well, the rest of the disabilities, right?

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So did you buy the wheelchair Barbie so you could throw it down the stairs?

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Yeah.

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Well, I got it so I could recreate the scene from Mac and me.

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Well before we get too far into this, what do you think about the cigar first up front?

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And then we'll get back into Barbie and all things Barbie and what we liked and what we

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were so so on and what we didn't like.

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Well, this is very dark and spicy.

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I'm kind of excited.

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I'm excited too.

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Mine is dark and spicy as well.

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Like my soul, like this movie, like my sense of humor, sense of humor, soul, all the above.

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I don't know.

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Should we do like a little rundown, a little mansplation of what the plot of this movie

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is?

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Sure, I can do that.

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I can do a quick synopsis.

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OK, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Barbie and Israel, they have Barbie land and in Barbie land, Barbie is in charge and all

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the Barbies are in charge of everything.

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And there's Ken's.

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Yeah, I was going to say like Barbies in charge because at the very beginning, aren't they

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like Barbie is me and we're all Barbie?

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And so there's like all these different Barbies, but all the Barbies are in charge, not necessarily

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the main Barbie.

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The movie follows.

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Right.

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Yeah, there's they have all the different kinds of Barbie.

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So they have astronaut Barbie and, you know, Nobel Prize winner Barbie.

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But anyway, Barbie does everything and all the cans are kind of their slaves who are

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homeless, who only exist to be accessories to the Barbie.

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You're jumping the gun here.

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I didn't think that they were there.

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They're not slaves.

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They're not homeless.

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They never said they were homeless.

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We'll get into that because that's one of my bigger complaints about the film.

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OK, and they have a very important job, Mike.

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I'm beginning to think you didn't actually watch this movie because Ken's job is very

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clearly beach.

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Very clearly beach.

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Yes, he beaches.

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He's not a lifeguard.

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But to your but to your point, and I guess like without we're trying to do like a not

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really colorful or non predisposed summary, there's Barbie land run by the Barbies.

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There are cans there.

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Cans generally want to help the Barbies.

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And what happens that what happens at the end of the first act to get us into the action

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and get us like what happens to Barbie to get her Barbie sorts of thoughts of death.

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And they've talked to this weird Barbie who tells her that she has to go to the real world

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and help the little girl who's playing with her because apparently her negative thoughts

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are affecting Barbie and Barbie land.

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Yes.

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Then they go into the real world and hilarity ensues and Ken finds out about the patriarchy

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and he brings the patriarchy back to Barbie land.

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And then they have an epic battle and Barbies win the day.

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And Barbie land goes back to the old caste system that they had previously.

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Yes.

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And I think what I liked was kind of the initial setup of Barbie land.

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And I loved that Barbie woke up showered in absolutely nothing.

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Like I mean no water.

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Right.

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And went and had breakfast that didn't actually exist.

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So it was all very clearly like the play, like make believe stuff that like a kid would

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do with Barbie.

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The thing I didn't like was how for the first 15 minutes, the only line of dialogue was

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Hi Barbie and then everybody in the same area had to say that line too.

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And then she moved to like a new area of the set and had to re-greet everybody else.

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And so it was just kind of a lot of high Barbies.

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I thought it was hilarious.

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I thought it gave a good tone to Barbie land and how this is my perception of how vapid

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and empty and soulless it is.

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So it's totally the kind of place you'd like to live, Mike.

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Oh, obviously.

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I mean, if I could live, if my job could be beach and I didn't actually have to go into

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the water because I was somehow physically unable to do so and then just had all these

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Barbies running around, like probably be OK.

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I mean, the water is made out of cardboard.

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So yeah.

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So I wasn't a huge fan of the narration, but I'm very, very rarely fan of narration in films

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because I just don't like to hear people talking.

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So that's why we have a podcast.

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Right.

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It didn't bother me.

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I thought it was good in its own way.

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I mean, I think it's how her feet flattened.

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Yes, because earlier Barbie molds were only molded for high heels.

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Yes.

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I'm not sure if the new Barbie molds were do they have flat feet Barbie now or are they

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all high heel Barbie?

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I think they're flat feet.

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I think they probably just change the shoe design to accommodate a flat foot Barbie.

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Sure.

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That's 100 percent certain, though.

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They might still have like going to dinner party Barbie or something.

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Oh, sure.

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Barbie stuck in the deep south or somewhere where Sharia law rules.

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Oh, Berka Barbie.

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That's my favorite.

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That's the one.

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My favorite Barbie of all time was teen pregnancy Barbie, which they actually talked about in

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the show or in the movie.

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Wasn't she the inspiration for teen mom?

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I did like that they had a lot of the older and discontinued Barbies like Sugar Daddy

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Barbie.

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And then they were like, no, no, no, I'm not actually a sugar daddy.

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My dog's name is Sugar and I am sugar's daddy.

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So that was quite funny.

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I thought it was great.

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The deep the costume details were good, too.

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I don't know, man.

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Like, I guess a couple of things.

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But like the first thing is I liked the scenes where Ken and or Barbie were throwing outfits

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out the window.

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And then they would like kind of flutter there and be like, this is in the little name of

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the outfit would come up like this is Ken's going to the disco rave in 1978 jacket thing

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or whatever the names were.

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That was kind of funny.

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And that kind of made me reminded me a little bit about which they had they had to do something.

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But they had I felt like they should have maybe worked a little harder to distinguish

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themselves from like Toy Story because Toy Story already already kind of did like the

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funniest bits of the Barbie Ken thing.

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Oh, sure.

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So then you're going to come and make a two hour movie and try and outdo the super hyper

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condensed like Toy Story.

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Yeah, this movie was not for children like Toy Story was.

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No.

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And I saw there was some complaints about parents, but it's rated PG-13.

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PG-13 is for adults.

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Get a clue.

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Right.

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It's not like, you know, our high schoolers.

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Like, I don't know.

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I don't remember a little of a peep turn to take down the patriarchy in Toy Story.

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I don't recall that being a part of the storyline.

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I remember watching Ace Ventura when nature calls in middle school.

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Yes.

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I thought I was able to see a sweaty Jim Carrey break loose from a fake animatronic rhinoceros's

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asshole.

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I love the criticism of the Ace Ventura movies that they're transphobic.

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I appreciate that.

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That's probably not something we should get into.

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Yeah.

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We're talking about light and happy and Barbie just has fun.

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Barbie does not run a matriarchy that keeps men down and treats them like indentured servitudes

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or slaves and everything is fine and happy.

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Yeah.

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Like the patriarchy who are homeless bums who live on the street.

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And also there was a transgender Barbie on the beach.

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They live on the beach.

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Did you notice the trans Barbie in this one?

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No, they didn't call it.

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They didn't call.

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No, them out.

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No, I didn't realize that it was a transgender Barbie until probably three quarters of the

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way through the movie.

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I thought the transgender Barbie was very passable.

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Unless it's as obvious as Ace Ventura or Crocodile Dundee.

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If you remember that scene.

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Yes.

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Yeah, I do remember that scene.

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I'm just not going to know.

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Right.

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No, and they didn't just they never I've respected the fact that it was never brought up as an

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issue.

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And if you weren't like looking and trying to really pay attention and or watching like

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news, easily it could pass you by.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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And I think that's kind of the restraint that I think this film needed more of or they need

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to lean into the ending harder.

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But I think that's the two areas where they kind of kind of lost me by and large, because

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they sure like to throw the word patriarchy around.

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Oh, that it was.

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And but then to have like so I felt like I was being just smacked over the head with

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it.

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I mean, I understand this movie wasn't made for me, Mike, and it wasn't made for you.

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Right.

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And that's fine.

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There's a lot of movies that aren't made for me that are still well done.

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You know what I mean?

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See, I thought it was made for me.

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And we can talk about it now.

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I I found the movie to be very nuanced and it had a lot of political subtext.

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Like when obese Barbie, who was apparently a lawyer, was talking in front of the Supreme

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Court and she said that corporations are not people and that giving them political rights

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in running campaigns is just a step toward fascism.

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I was like, holy shit, this is based.

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Yeah, I like that one, too.

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I like that.

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I liked a lot of the commentary.

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Yes.

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And I'm not I'm not saying that.

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I think I just have to say what I have to say so that we can keep talking about this

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without having to like skirt around it.

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But to your point, when you were saying like all the Kens are homeless, that was the whole

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thing, Ken brought back the patriarchy because he went out into the real world with Barbie

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and everybody started actually seeing him, whereas none of the Barbies ever saw him.

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Right.

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They kind of like peripherally saw them and they were like, hey, you know, you could really

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make Ken's day to day if you just looked at him and then Ken would be happy.

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Like, that's the bare minimum Barbie has to do to make Ken happy.

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Not that that Ken should have to need somebody to make him happy.

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Right.

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Which was one of the points at the end of the movie, which I thought was well done.

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Like, Ken, you got to go find out who Ken is.

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That was fine.

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Like, that was fine.

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And so he wanted to bring back the patriarchy.

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But then they kept making Ken like he checked out all these books and he thought the patriarchy

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had a lot to do with horses and stuff, which was, I guess, fine.

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But then when so Barbie brings back this mother and daughter and it was actually the mother

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who was playing with her, who was depressed and sad and making all these other things.

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And she also happened just a strange coincidence happened to work at Mattel.

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Right.

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So she comes back and Barbie is like, yeah, so this is my house.

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And she's like, well, where does Ken live?

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And she's like, Barbie goes, don't know.

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Never thought about it.

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And the movie just carries merrily along.

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And they didn't like they didn't walk that back.

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And so I think like my biggest my biggest complaint about the entire movie was not was

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not the not the patriarchy bashing, but it was the fact that they had clearly set up

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a matriarchy that was just as bad as the patriarchy, except 180 degrees difference.

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Right.

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And they never acknowledged that.

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I thought they could have done a better job acknowledging that also.

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Yeah.

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I mean, they got themselves pretty deep in the weeds with this topic.

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Like it's a tough thing to portray on film.

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And I think they did it mostly well.

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I agree.

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Kind of left.

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They left that unspoken where it was like, well, the matriarchy is just as bad as the

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patriarchy.

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And the and the bit that got me the most, I think, was when the one Ken was like, well,

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we want a space on the Supreme Court.

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And the Barbie president was like, oh, no, no, no, we can't do that.

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But you could be like a custodian or something like, you know, and I'm like, OK.

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Yeah, I thought it was great.

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I thought it was a lot of nuance to the whole patriarchy talk when Ken tried to go get jobs

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in the real world and he was rejected because he didn't have any qualifications for it,

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including being a light guard.

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Yeah.

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No, I just beach.

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I just I just beach.

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They're like, you know, in the one talk where he was talking and he's like, I'm a man.

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Give me a job because he saw those men talking and the guy's like, we don't do that here.

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Like, you need qualifications.

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He's like, what are you telling me?

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You messed up the patriarchy.

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You lost it.

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And the guy was like, no, we just got a lot better at hiding it.

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But then Ken never actually got the job.

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Right.

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You know what I mean?

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So I feel like there's a lot of ideas that they put into this film that they kind of

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left like half baked, you know?

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And so like either Ken should have gotten the job or the guy should have been like, you

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know what, bud, the patriarchy only applies to rich, well-off men, like any class or

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below patriarchy doesn't benefit them at all.

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Everybody below like the upper one percent is just scraping shit.

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You know what I mean?

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Right.

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Yeah.

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The patriarchy doesn't benefit you if you have a job that pays a salary.

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Right.

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You need stock option.

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Yeah.

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Stock options.

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You need like a ton of rental properties in Hawaii after the land got really cheap for

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suddenly no reason.

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Yeah.

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Like Oprah, who is definitely a part of the patriarchy.

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Yeah.

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Well, there is.

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The patriarchy is like, it's kind of the same thing with the gender affirming stuff is it

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doesn't really have to do with the patriarchy versus the patriarchy.

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It has everything to do with if you make X amount of money, you can literally control

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everybody else on the planet.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Money talks.

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If you're a man.

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She set up a charity.

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Did you see that?

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She set up a charity.

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Are you saying Oprah is a man?

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Is that what I just heard?

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Oprah has to be a man because Oprah set up a charity where she was going to pledge $10

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million to Hawaii, but it wasn't her 10 million.

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It was the poor's that were going to give her money that she was going to give to the

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ship to the whole.

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That's stone stone.

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Stonehenge guy wanted to get all that money on their video.

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Right.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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The rock and an Oprah weren't going to donate any money.

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They were going to donate the money that gave them.

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They were going to donate the money and write that money off on their taxes so they could

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just have an extra $10 million like tax windfall that year.

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I know it's weird.

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They just get $4 billion.

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That crazy bitch.

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Yeah.

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They want to buy up, she's got a lot of land on the islands.

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She wants more.

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Yes.

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The poor is further away from her pool.

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Well, I mean, the patriarchy is keeping her down, so she's got to make a Oprah town style

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situation.

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We should all like, I don't know why she doesn't have a GoFundMe set up for this.

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Let's do it.

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Let's get her her land.

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Mm-hmm.

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Lots of Kool-Aid.

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Lots of Kool-Aid.

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So the other thing that really, really bothered me, Mike.

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Yes.

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And this is, you're going to go, you're going to probably say this is classic Nate.

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Like Nate's the guy that's worried about the caramel apple vendor in fucking Hocus Pocus

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2.

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Like why didn't he have enough caramel apples?

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Nobody knows.

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Yeah.

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Why is Nate so concerned about the blue tit milk in Star Wars?

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Who cares?

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Because the whole tit milk economy thing, like if it's only on this run remote planet,

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but we're not talking about Star Wars.

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We're talking about the matriarchy and we're talking about Barbie.

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So this film.

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Isn't Star Wars about the matriarchy?

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The force is female, Nate.

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Anyway, so.

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The force is female.

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And everything's about the matriarchy nowadays.

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I can't get away from it.

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I just want to go and watch Die Hard and be left alone.

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I'm just kidding.

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But also kind of not.

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Anyway, so Mattel financed this movie.

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I'm sure they made a lot more than they put into it, but the Mattel logo popped up right

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away.

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Like right.

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The second logo, the second studio logo.

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And they're like, yeah, we got Mattel Studios now.

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Yeah, I'm sure you do.

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Fantastic.

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I'll come down and tour them.

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I don't know what I'm going to do with the rest of the morning.

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Anyway, so they show the Mattel offices and the Mattel offices look like the most soul

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sucking offices that I've ever seen since our office went with the new modern office

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layout.

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Right.

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So I was like, well, holy shit, like you guys are making this movie.

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Are you actively trying to tell us that you're bad and evil?

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And then you go up to the C suite, right?

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You got all this, the CEO, the CFO, the COO, the other, whatever the other C's are, all

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men, of course, and all like really dumb.

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And so the question then is, I know they're trying to make a point about men not being

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as competent as everybody thinks men are or that men think they are, which is fine.

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But is by doing that, Mattel is saying that they're no different than the other companies,

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despite the fact that they're trying to push a Barbie product that empowers young women.

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Right.

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But so they're saying they're they're not walking the walk, but they only talk the talk.

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So and then I got really fucking confused, man, like to the point of being angry because

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you've got Will Ferrell as the CEO and he's like, we got to get Barbie back.

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We got to get her back from from real world and put her back in the box.

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What's in the box?

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And then somebody's like, well, what about Ken?

451
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Ken's still out there.

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And he's like, we never cared about Ken.

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Okay.

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One, is that a critique of the company just putting out a Ken product for the sake of

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having like an accessory for Barbie?

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Is that to because they also think Ken is dumb or like, what are they trying to say

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there?

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Are they trying to say that they are actually like pro-femininity or not pro-femininity?

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And so they end up going back and Ken comes up with his like super duper dojo casa house

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thing.

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Yes.

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And apparently at Mattel, they're like, holy shit, this thing's flying off the shelf.

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This is our best selling product ever.

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And Wilfer is like, well, we have to stop this instantly.

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I only care about the bottom line and profits and money, but we have to go stop this right

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away.

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Then they go and stop it and switch everything back.

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And the mom from the real world is like, well, I've got an idea for, I don't know what it

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was, existential crisis Barbie or something.

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And Wilfer is like, absolutely not.

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And the other guy goes, well, that's going to sell really well.

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And then Wilfer goes, well, okay, we'll do it then.

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So I'm confused.

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Like is Mattel supposed to be an evil corporation?

475
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Is it supposed to be a good corporation?

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Will Ferrell is asking people to call him mom.

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And then he wants to stop the all time best seller they've ever had with Ken's super duper

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Dojo Casa house.

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But then he won't do the existential crisis Barbie unless it sells.

480
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So I just, they were all over the map on like what their fucking motivations were.

481
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I have no fucking idea what Mattel was trying to do with that.

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Like, shouldn't they have been a board of females and then said like, where are the

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only ones that are fighting the good fight?

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Like it's a fictional movie anyway, so you might as well just make shit up.

485
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And then why did they put in the founder and say, oh yeah, so she's a big tax evader, but

486
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she's got some really good advice on parenting.

487
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Right.

488
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Yeah.

489
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I thought I actually did research about her and she didn't owe that much money.

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Like it clearly was probably an oversight because she was getting older basically because

491
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she ran Mattel for 40 years or 30 years or whatever it was.

492
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It was a really long time, you know, from the end of the second world war all the way

493
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into the seventies.

494
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So, yeah, yeah.

495
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So I was confused about the whole like Mattel, like especially when Mattel is the one making

496
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the movie.

497
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If we were watching like, what's that?

498
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What's that fat guy's name that does like a bull and a boll and a bind?

499
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Michael Moore.

500
00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:07,740
I'm sorry.

501
00:21:07,740 --> 00:21:09,300
What's that plus size filmmakers name?

502
00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:11,380
What's that body positive filmmakers name?

503
00:21:11,380 --> 00:21:16,260
Anyway, like if it was him doing it, I can understand like trashing Mattel because that's

504
00:21:16,260 --> 00:21:17,260
what you do.

505
00:21:17,260 --> 00:21:20,940
Like if you're making a documentary or like a mostly fictional documentary or documentary

506
00:21:20,940 --> 00:21:24,860
with a huge fucking slant, then like you say what you want about the company.

507
00:21:24,860 --> 00:21:28,980
But if you're financing the fucking movie, do you want your like are you getting street

508
00:21:28,980 --> 00:21:32,740
cred points for saying how evil you are or do you just not give a shit anymore?

509
00:21:32,740 --> 00:21:33,740
Right.

510
00:21:33,740 --> 00:21:38,940
And so that scattershot approach I thought was on purpose, which we'll talk about the

511
00:21:38,940 --> 00:21:40,740
news article at a later time.

512
00:21:40,740 --> 00:21:46,140
But I assumed that it was on purpose made by competent people and that the scattershot

513
00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:52,940
was supposed to be a more palatable way for them to insert layers of nuance in the politics

514
00:21:52,940 --> 00:21:55,900
because all those things can be true at the same time.

515
00:21:55,900 --> 00:21:56,900
Right.

516
00:21:56,900 --> 00:21:59,660
In the Barbie world, they are all true at the same time, even though they're somewhat

517
00:21:59,660 --> 00:22:00,660
contradictory.

518
00:22:00,660 --> 00:22:01,660
Yeah.

519
00:22:01,660 --> 00:22:05,700
I see the confusion on where Mattel portrayed themselves with that part you're talking about

520
00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:08,140
where they're trying to put Barbie in the box.

521
00:22:08,140 --> 00:22:10,260
And it's probably just something I'm making up.

522
00:22:10,260 --> 00:22:15,060
But it could be Mattel saying that the matriarchy exists and they can be in charge, but only

523
00:22:15,060 --> 00:22:17,100
within the limits of the patriarchy.

524
00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:22,100
So the Mattel itself is a patriarchy controlled completely by men selling stuff to women and

525
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:26,180
little girls about women without actually knowing what the hell they're talking about.

526
00:22:26,180 --> 00:22:29,460
Barbie gets out in the real world and what they're trying to do is shove her back into

527
00:22:29,460 --> 00:22:34,620
a box, back into a corner in the little world and space that they created for her that they're

528
00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:36,220
saying that's where you belong.

529
00:22:36,220 --> 00:22:37,620
That's the only place you belong.

530
00:22:37,620 --> 00:22:38,620
That's where you're supposed to be.

531
00:22:38,620 --> 00:22:39,940
You have to go back there.

532
00:22:39,940 --> 00:22:46,900
When they were talking about Ken's super duper mojo casa house, dojo casa house, gulag, whatever

533
00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:52,140
the fuck it was, all they would have had to do to help clarify things and to give a little

534
00:22:52,140 --> 00:22:53,460
bit of grounding.

535
00:22:53,460 --> 00:22:59,900
So this is similar to in the live action remake of Aladdin when they have the Aladdin guy

536
00:22:59,900 --> 00:23:05,300
running around down the alleyways and the filmmakers now granted the filmmakers on that

537
00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:07,660
were nowhere near as competent as the filmmakers on Barbie.

538
00:23:07,660 --> 00:23:08,660
Okay.

539
00:23:08,660 --> 00:23:13,460
So they decided to just in the Aladdin movie, is that Ezra Bridger that's running around

540
00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:14,460
Agrabah?

541
00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:15,460
Yes.

542
00:23:15,460 --> 00:23:16,460
Yeah.

543
00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:17,460
But he didn't have the force then.

544
00:23:17,460 --> 00:23:18,540
So we can't fault him.

545
00:23:18,540 --> 00:23:24,300
They were having him run around the alleyways and they decided to not even bother with any

546
00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:29,140
of the basic film convention where you need somebody, if somebody's moving left to right

547
00:23:29,140 --> 00:23:33,060
in one shot, they have to move left to right in the next shot and the subsequent shot or

548
00:23:33,060 --> 00:23:36,340
you need to, you need to like slowly change the camera's perspective.

549
00:23:36,340 --> 00:23:38,520
You can't just change it every other shot.

550
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,700
You can do a drastic change for dramatic effect for sure, but you can't have a five minute

551
00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:47,860
running through the alleyway scene with 57 different perspectives.

552
00:23:47,860 --> 00:23:48,860
You know what I mean?

553
00:23:48,860 --> 00:23:49,860
Yeah.

554
00:23:49,860 --> 00:23:50,860
I think we talked about this.

555
00:23:50,860 --> 00:23:51,860
We did.

556
00:23:51,860 --> 00:23:52,860
Not on the show.

557
00:23:52,860 --> 00:23:53,860
Not on the show.

558
00:23:53,860 --> 00:23:54,860
Just to give a little grounding for the audience.

559
00:23:54,860 --> 00:23:56,100
The audience needs a little bit of something.

560
00:23:56,100 --> 00:24:00,260
So what would have made it better for me, a man, part of the patriarchy, I guess.

561
00:24:00,260 --> 00:24:02,060
I'm waiting for my patriarchy check.

562
00:24:02,060 --> 00:24:04,620
That's like the tribal checks, right?

563
00:24:04,620 --> 00:24:05,760
Like I'm part of the tribe.

564
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,060
So I get the casino royalties.

565
00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:10,260
Well, I had to sign my paperwork to get my man check.

566
00:24:10,260 --> 00:24:13,740
So you know, you see to send the stamp to for that.

567
00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:17,020
It's been redirected as reparations to the matriarchy.

568
00:24:17,020 --> 00:24:18,020
Thank you.

569
00:24:18,020 --> 00:24:19,020
Yeah.

570
00:24:19,020 --> 00:24:20,020
You have to go to judge Rosa, whoever.

571
00:24:20,020 --> 00:24:23,060
I went to the women's bathroom today at a bowling alley.

572
00:24:23,060 --> 00:24:24,940
I know that you're so brave, Mike.

573
00:24:24,940 --> 00:24:27,860
I know it was 31 minutes, gentlemen, before I brought up bowling.

574
00:24:27,860 --> 00:24:31,700
But yeah, I went to the girls bathroom at a bowling alley today when it was closed before

575
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:32,700
it was open.

576
00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:33,700
Nice.

577
00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:34,700
Along with a bunch of other men.

578
00:24:34,700 --> 00:24:39,340
Just to see what it was like, just to pee on the seat, leave all the seats up.

579
00:24:39,340 --> 00:24:44,060
Actually, I just needed some soap because the soap was out in the men's bathroom.

580
00:24:44,060 --> 00:24:47,500
Is that are you saying that men are cleaner than women because they'll actually wash their

581
00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:48,500
hands with soap?

582
00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:50,020
I'm not saying that.

583
00:24:50,020 --> 00:24:52,780
I'm just saying that the women have lots of soap and the men didn't.

584
00:24:52,780 --> 00:24:58,860
So back to the Ken super duper dojo, super secret underground layer dojo casa house thing.

585
00:24:58,860 --> 00:24:59,860
Yes.

586
00:24:59,860 --> 00:25:00,860
You mean Ken's frat house?

587
00:25:00,860 --> 00:25:03,020
The coolest house in Barbie land.

588
00:25:03,020 --> 00:25:08,020
But if when they were doing the big CEO scene and things and the guy was like, Ken's Barbie

589
00:25:08,020 --> 00:25:13,700
house or Ken's house is out selling and we've never seen so much money or whatever, all

590
00:25:13,700 --> 00:25:17,860
they would have had to do is put in one little line of dialogue of like, you fool, we're

591
00:25:17,860 --> 00:25:21,980
going to lose our entire female base or something.

592
00:25:21,980 --> 00:25:23,180
That's all you need to say.

593
00:25:23,180 --> 00:25:26,620
Then we know why they want to cancel the Ken thing because they show just for character

594
00:25:26,620 --> 00:25:30,760
motivation within the film, Will Ferrell's character only cares about money, bringing

595
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,760
in money.

596
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,180
So Ken's house is selling really well.

597
00:25:34,180 --> 00:25:35,180
Instead of saying, that's great.

598
00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:37,100
We can get some male customers.

599
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:38,100
He's like, we got to shut this down.

600
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:40,100
But he never says why they need to shut it down.

601
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:41,100
Right.

602
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:43,660
If all he had to say was they're going to see through our sham and the women won't buy

603
00:25:43,660 --> 00:25:44,660
from us anymore.

604
00:25:44,660 --> 00:25:46,420
If this thing keeps selling, we got to stop it.

605
00:25:46,420 --> 00:25:47,420
Like, that's enough for me.

606
00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:48,980
Like, I don't need to know anymore.

607
00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:49,980
Yeah.

608
00:25:49,980 --> 00:25:55,500
The messaging wasn't like, I, like I say, I thought it was on purpose, but it clearly,

609
00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:59,460
it could have been, I'm just, you can do a lot of things on purpose, but I think at the

610
00:25:59,460 --> 00:26:02,780
end of the day, you have to remember you're also making a film.

611
00:26:02,780 --> 00:26:03,780
Right.

612
00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:07,580
I think that had they allowed Ken's house, that would have given more power to the Kens

613
00:26:07,580 --> 00:26:12,660
within the Barbie world, which would have shifted the balance of the Barbie world.

614
00:26:12,660 --> 00:26:17,060
And Mattel knowing that that is the place they have shoved the women to be in charge,

615
00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:18,980
cannot change the balance of power.

616
00:26:18,980 --> 00:26:24,060
It was a power shift equivalent to the power shift like women going into the workforce

617
00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:27,300
during, was it World War II?

618
00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:31,420
But they started building in factories and they were told, you don't get to work anymore.

619
00:26:31,420 --> 00:26:34,820
Your husbands are back home, take care of your kids, cleaning, cook and blah, blah,

620
00:26:34,820 --> 00:26:35,820
blah.

621
00:26:35,820 --> 00:26:36,900
And they said, no, we still want to work.

622
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:40,060
And they were told, okay, well, you can work, but you can only be a secretary.

623
00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:41,460
You can only be a librarian.

624
00:26:41,460 --> 00:26:44,180
You can only be a teacher, which was the only profession they were really allowed prior

625
00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:45,180
to that.

626
00:26:45,180 --> 00:26:46,180
Or you can only be a nurse.

627
00:26:46,180 --> 00:26:49,980
So you can have power within these limitations that we give you in just this little teeny

628
00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:54,100
tiny bit of power so you don't get full of yourselves, which is kind of what they were

629
00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:55,100
doing with Ken.

630
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:58,900
They wanted to be on the Supreme Court and they said, well, let's not go too far.

631
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:02,700
You can have this lower position and start there, which is what they did to women after

632
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:05,300
they said, come and do the men's jobs because we need you.

633
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:09,300
And then when it was time for them to actually want to work and continue to be a part of

634
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:12,740
the workforce, said, well, you can have this little teeny tiny role behind all of the men

635
00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:13,740
again.

636
00:27:13,740 --> 00:27:16,420
I wonder why women wanted to keep working after the men came back.

637
00:27:16,420 --> 00:27:20,540
If somebody told me I could stay home and not work, I would do that all day.

638
00:27:20,540 --> 00:27:23,940
Which would be great if the person telling you, you could stay home and not work didn't

639
00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:27,740
also control every single aspect of your life and give you an allowance and tell you what

640
00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:32,180
you can and can't do with your money and your house and your kids when they're not the one

641
00:27:32,180 --> 00:27:33,180
they're helping.

642
00:27:33,180 --> 00:27:36,220
Yeah, that guy, he was a terrible president, wasn't he?

643
00:27:36,220 --> 00:27:37,220
Ruined everything.

644
00:27:37,220 --> 00:27:38,220
Fucking a-hole.

645
00:27:38,220 --> 00:27:41,340
Also, Nate, you're not supposed to respond to the voice of the matriarchy.

646
00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:42,340
FYI.

647
00:27:42,340 --> 00:27:44,340
I'm not responding to the voice of the matriarchy.

648
00:27:44,340 --> 00:27:47,020
I have deep conflicted feelings down with him.

649
00:27:47,020 --> 00:27:50,660
You're definitely responding to the voice of goddess over here, sir.

650
00:27:50,660 --> 00:27:53,980
So yeah, you need to stop responding to the voice of the matriarchy and pretend that it

651
00:27:53,980 --> 00:27:54,980
doesn't exist.

652
00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:55,980
All right?

653
00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:56,980
Got to be Ken.

654
00:27:56,980 --> 00:27:57,980
Don't be Alan.

655
00:27:57,980 --> 00:27:59,540
Alan was kind of badass.

656
00:27:59,540 --> 00:28:00,540
I liked Alan.

657
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:02,380
I thought Alan was good.

658
00:28:02,380 --> 00:28:07,180
I liked that they had all the set designs and the character development as far as having

659
00:28:07,180 --> 00:28:09,380
all the Barbie lore was perfect.

660
00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:10,380
It was great.

661
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:12,620
Yeah, I enjoyed that because I had never played with Barbie.

662
00:28:12,620 --> 00:28:14,380
I have two younger brothers.

663
00:28:14,380 --> 00:28:16,140
We never had Barbies in the house.

664
00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:17,140
Sure.

665
00:28:17,140 --> 00:28:19,060
I had one Barbie and my Ken.

666
00:28:19,060 --> 00:28:20,060
I had a Ken.

667
00:28:20,060 --> 00:28:21,060
Was it a bowling Barbie?

668
00:28:21,060 --> 00:28:22,060
No, it wasn't.

669
00:28:22,060 --> 00:28:23,260
I wish I had a bowling Barbie.

670
00:28:23,260 --> 00:28:28,340
No, I had cowboy Ken because my parents are older and they are big into Westerns.

671
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:33,580
So I had a cowboy Ken so that he could like be a cowboy with my Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

672
00:28:33,580 --> 00:28:34,580
Yeah.

673
00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:35,580
Yeah.

674
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:37,860
And cowboy Ken, of course, made it into the movie.

675
00:28:37,860 --> 00:28:39,580
And I was pretty excited about that.

676
00:28:39,580 --> 00:28:41,860
I never had a Barbie though.

677
00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:47,420
You know, that was definitely a patriarchy in my toy collection as a child.

678
00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:48,420
Yeah.

679
00:28:48,420 --> 00:28:55,140
And I guess like there's been some kind of backlash from people calling Barbie too woke.

680
00:28:55,140 --> 00:29:02,940
And the response from like Greta Gerwig, the director, whose other stuff I quite like and

681
00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:07,260
Whoopi Goldberg, I guess, chimed in and was like, it's just a movie.

682
00:29:07,260 --> 00:29:15,100
And I'm kind of curious because sure, I get it in the grand patriarchy that exists outside

683
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:18,980
of Oprah and Justine Maxwell, of course, and Hillary Clinton.

684
00:29:18,980 --> 00:29:24,660
Can women say things that are critical of society without being labeled woke?

685
00:29:24,660 --> 00:29:29,220
Like on one hand, but on the other hand, like if you're going to make a film and you're

686
00:29:29,220 --> 00:29:34,380
calling out the patriarchy and how much it sucks ass, like all the terrible things about

687
00:29:34,380 --> 00:29:39,540
it and that these men can still control and put Barbie back in the box and do these other

688
00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:44,820
things, is it enough of a response when people are calling your stuff woke to say it's just

689
00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:45,820
a movie?

690
00:29:45,820 --> 00:29:52,020
Well, see, and that's where I'm confused because that patriarchy talk was so overwhelming that

691
00:29:52,020 --> 00:29:57,580
to me it turned into like the Boogeyman and when Ken was getting rejected for jobs and

692
00:29:57,580 --> 00:30:01,540
the fact that the Kens are all homeless and the Kens, you know what I mean?

693
00:30:01,540 --> 00:30:07,820
Like Barbie land was clearly not ideal utopian society from the perspective of Ken.

694
00:30:07,820 --> 00:30:08,820
Right.

695
00:30:08,820 --> 00:30:09,820
Yeah.

696
00:30:09,820 --> 00:30:15,060
So they had turned the patriarchy into like the Boogeyman and it was kind of pointing

697
00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:19,700
out how a lot of society's problems are probably not due to the patriarchy.

698
00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:25,660
They're probably due to other factors like greed and selfishness and inequality and things

699
00:30:25,660 --> 00:30:26,660
like that.

700
00:30:26,660 --> 00:30:27,660
Yeah.

701
00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:31,020
I guess like the way that they set up the Barbie land in the very first like opening

702
00:30:31,020 --> 00:30:35,260
shots where they're like, hey, everything is beautiful and nothing hurt and everything's

703
00:30:35,260 --> 00:30:38,940
great and it's always sunny and we do the same stuff and every night's girls night,

704
00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:41,860
but every night doesn't have to be girls night.

705
00:30:41,860 --> 00:30:46,260
You know, they set it up as like this idyllic place where it's like, this is the gold standard

706
00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:51,300
of places and they assume that the rest of the world looks just like Barbie land, which

707
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:55,100
and why wouldn't they, you know, like they have no idea until they go out there and see

708
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:56,100
it.

709
00:30:56,100 --> 00:31:00,340
And so I thought the movie was going to at the very end, show us what the ideal would

710
00:31:00,340 --> 00:31:01,740
actually be.

711
00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:03,180
I was hoping they would do that.

712
00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:05,140
Kind of like doubled down on the matriarchy.

713
00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:06,140
Right.

714
00:31:06,140 --> 00:31:07,140
I thought that was a weird.

715
00:31:07,140 --> 00:31:10,580
I didn't sit very well with me as the ending of the movie.

716
00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:11,860
No, I didn't like it.

717
00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:13,780
Especially with the weird Mattel stuff.

718
00:31:13,780 --> 00:31:14,780
Right.

719
00:31:14,780 --> 00:31:18,260
I was kind of like, ah, did they go Chris Nolan on us with Tenet?

720
00:31:18,260 --> 00:31:21,100
And like they got so confused and like worked up about the patriarchy that they couldn't

721
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:22,580
remember how to end the film or.

722
00:31:22,580 --> 00:31:23,580
Right.

723
00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:27,060
Well, and some of the aspects of the real world were fantasy like too, where when they

724
00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:32,180
came rollerblading in and the guy slapped Barbie's ass and then she hit him back and

725
00:31:32,180 --> 00:31:36,100
they somehow arrested Barbie, even though he sexually assaulted her.

726
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:37,340
That's not the real world.

727
00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:41,020
You know, you can't just if that situation were to happen, that guy would go to jail

728
00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:42,020
for sure.

729
00:31:42,020 --> 00:31:43,020
You know what I mean?

730
00:31:43,020 --> 00:31:44,020
Yeah.

731
00:31:44,020 --> 00:31:45,660
Well, he would have been brought in too and they would have tried to resolve it at the

732
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:46,660
station or something.

733
00:31:46,660 --> 00:31:47,660
Right.

734
00:31:47,660 --> 00:31:48,660
Yeah, exactly.

735
00:31:48,660 --> 00:31:50,620
It wouldn't just be Barbie and Ken going to jail.

736
00:31:50,620 --> 00:31:51,620
It would have been.

737
00:31:51,620 --> 00:31:55,180
But how fucking fly were some of their outfits in the real world there?

738
00:31:55,180 --> 00:31:57,020
I know they were great.

739
00:31:57,020 --> 00:31:59,500
I love like the 80s rollerbladed outfits.

740
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:03,180
You know, yeah, people were making fun of them.

741
00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:06,580
Also, it was very unrealistic when people were like talking to Ken.

742
00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:11,940
Like, I am a man in the real world and nobody fucking asked me for anything or shows me

743
00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:13,580
any amount of undue respect.

744
00:32:13,580 --> 00:32:18,420
You know, like I'm pretty much invisible walking down the street as a fat white guy.

745
00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:20,220
You know, I get that too.

746
00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:25,320
Well, it's so interesting because we talked about this on the show before, but like when

747
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,780
I'm out with the kids, people will come and talk to me, but not really to they think they're

748
00:32:30,780 --> 00:32:32,140
trying to make me feel good.

749
00:32:32,140 --> 00:32:33,140
Right.

750
00:32:33,140 --> 00:32:36,900
Like, wow, like you're out with both the kids, like you're babysitting or something or whatever.

751
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:39,540
And it's like, dude, no, no, these are my kids.

752
00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:41,300
Like I don't babysit my own kids.

753
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:42,300
You don't babysit your own kids.

754
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:43,300
It's not how that works.

755
00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:47,380
Like this is called just being like a present father, like a present parent, like gender

756
00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:49,060
of the parent doesn't matter.

757
00:32:49,060 --> 00:32:50,700
I'm being present with my children.

758
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:52,900
I'm being active and engaged with my children.

759
00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:54,340
I'm not fucking babysitting them.

760
00:32:54,340 --> 00:32:55,340
Right.

761
00:32:55,340 --> 00:32:56,340
You know what I mean?

762
00:32:56,340 --> 00:33:00,540
So I guess like, fuck, I got to write the patriarchy because I need a couple bucks for

763
00:33:00,540 --> 00:33:01,540
that.

764
00:33:01,540 --> 00:33:03,500
I'm like deeply hurt by that.

765
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:07,940
And I want to talk about my feelings to somebody about that and also get my check for 1995.

766
00:33:07,940 --> 00:33:08,940
Right.

767
00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:09,940
Exactly.

768
00:33:09,940 --> 00:33:12,060
For having to have borne that offense.

769
00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:17,860
Well, I thought, and this is again in the real world, that a lady asked Ken what time

770
00:33:17,860 --> 00:33:22,180
it was and they were at a school and it made sense because they were like the waiting area

771
00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:24,260
and she didn't happen to have a watch.

772
00:33:24,260 --> 00:33:28,260
And it was like revolutionary to Ken that a woman would come up and ask Ken a question

773
00:33:28,260 --> 00:33:30,460
about anything because of Barbie land.

774
00:33:30,460 --> 00:33:36,540
Ken is like an accessory who is just on the beach and wants to like hang out at the party,

775
00:33:36,540 --> 00:33:41,060
but Barbie kicks him out onto the street like an urchin every night so he can just survive

776
00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:44,500
with the coyotes or whatever is on the streets of Barbie land at night.

777
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:45,740
It's very dramatic.

778
00:33:45,740 --> 00:33:50,060
The important thing with that interaction is, and this is one that they actually carried

779
00:33:50,060 --> 00:33:51,600
this through the entire movie.

780
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,620
And so I have to give them like props for this.

781
00:33:54,620 --> 00:33:58,460
Ken had unrealistic expectations for his relationship with Barbie.

782
00:33:58,460 --> 00:34:04,320
Like he felt like just because he was designed to be Barbie's like soulmate or accessory

783
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:14,300
or handbag or whatever, indentured servitude or enslaved people or states rights assistant,

784
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:18,820
that he felt like he's entitled to spend time with Barbie.

785
00:34:18,820 --> 00:34:24,460
He very clearly isn't, you know, and he's not entitled to that shit.

786
00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:29,820
And that's that kind of like toxic romanticization stuff of like, well, I'm a man and that's

787
00:34:29,820 --> 00:34:31,980
a woman and that woman should like me.

788
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:34,220
Like that's that incel stuff we were talking about.

789
00:34:34,220 --> 00:34:35,220
Oh, dude.

790
00:34:35,220 --> 00:34:41,220
And so at the end of the thing, they actually carried this one tiny little thread through,

791
00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:42,220
which was great.

792
00:34:42,220 --> 00:34:46,060
And I think it had a lot to do with Ryan Gosling because he chose this role because he saw

793
00:34:46,060 --> 00:34:49,500
how neglected his children's Kens were.

794
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,260
And so he wanted to bring a voice to Ken within this thing.

795
00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:56,100
And at the very end, when Barbie is like, Ken, I'm not your answer.

796
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:58,060
I'm not what gives your life meaning.

797
00:34:58,060 --> 00:34:59,420
You need to find your own meaning.

798
00:34:59,420 --> 00:35:00,420
Right.

799
00:35:00,420 --> 00:35:03,940
And it's kind of like that thing that people say to people when people are like, oh, I

800
00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:04,940
hate my life.

801
00:35:04,940 --> 00:35:08,500
And you say, man, you got to love yourself before somebody else could love you.

802
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:12,500
I mean, that's like not to be cliche, but exactly.

803
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:17,180
And like, you're not entitled to do all of these things, Ken, just because you are supposedly

804
00:35:17,180 --> 00:35:19,140
designed as Barbie's accessory.

805
00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:23,380
So I liked that aspect and I liked that they followed that through at the end.

806
00:35:23,380 --> 00:35:27,500
And I wish they would have had that same kind of focus to follow the rest of the threads

807
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:28,500
they started.

808
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:33,260
Yeah, I did appreciate that they carried that through because I think that's a thing that

809
00:35:33,260 --> 00:35:37,940
a lot of women do struggle with and not necessarily in that major.

810
00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:43,860
So I but in general, because we are constantly made to feel that our job is to get married

811
00:35:43,860 --> 00:35:46,780
and have kids and we're asked, when are you getting married?

812
00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:47,780
Are you with this person?

813
00:35:47,780 --> 00:35:48,780
Are you going to get married?

814
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:49,780
Are you long even together?

815
00:35:49,780 --> 00:35:50,780
Why aren't you married yet?

816
00:35:50,780 --> 00:35:51,780
Are you having kids?

817
00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:52,780
Why don't you want kids?

818
00:35:52,780 --> 00:35:54,780
No one ever asked a woman why she wants kids.

819
00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:56,860
But if you say you don't want kids, you're insane.

820
00:35:56,860 --> 00:35:59,100
I've actually had people say, what is wrong with you?

821
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:00,380
Why don't you want kids?

822
00:36:00,380 --> 00:36:02,780
Well, I don't have to explain myself to you.

823
00:36:02,780 --> 00:36:04,740
No man has to explain if he doesn't want kids.

824
00:36:04,740 --> 00:36:07,260
Why does a woman have to explain if she doesn't want kids?

825
00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:13,420
So that part of Ken relying on a relationship with Barbie to like make him a whole being

826
00:36:13,420 --> 00:36:18,660
is something a lot of women I think deal with throughout their lives because you're expected

827
00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:23,260
even in today's society, you're supposed to find somebody, get married, build a life,

828
00:36:23,260 --> 00:36:24,260
have kids.

829
00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:25,260
That's what you're supposed to do.

830
00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:26,420
And if you don't, there's something wrong with you.

831
00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:31,420
I also want to go back and touch on you're talking about Ken being asked for the time

832
00:36:31,420 --> 00:36:36,100
and him being like shocked by it coming out of a world where women are in charge.

833
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:37,460
And that makes sense.

834
00:36:37,460 --> 00:36:41,660
But speaking as a woman in today's society, and this is something that we see all the

835
00:36:41,660 --> 00:36:46,860
time, if I'm with my husband somewhere, he's going to be the one that they ask a question

836
00:36:46,860 --> 00:36:47,860
to.

837
00:36:47,860 --> 00:36:50,540
I assume that I have no idea what's going on.

838
00:36:50,540 --> 00:36:51,780
Go to a hardware store.

839
00:36:51,780 --> 00:36:54,580
If I'm with my husband, he's the one they're going to approach.

840
00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:55,860
They're not going to come talk to me.

841
00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:58,260
They don't think I know what I'm doing in a hardware store.

842
00:36:58,260 --> 00:37:02,220
We went to a store the other day in town and bought some stuff.

843
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:04,260
The guy in front of me was chit chatting with the guy.

844
00:37:04,260 --> 00:37:06,180
He handed him an ad said we're having a sale.

845
00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:08,900
I was in line at the same store buying stuff.

846
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:10,760
Nobody said anything to me about a tool sale.

847
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,820
Nobody offered me this ad on the sale.

848
00:37:13,820 --> 00:37:16,140
Nobody had any further conversation with me about it.

849
00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:17,720
Asked what the clamp was for.

850
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,660
There was an assumption that there was no need to.

851
00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:25,860
I was there to buy that thing, and that was all I could possibly need in that place.

852
00:37:25,860 --> 00:37:27,540
Maybe I'm stretching it a little far.

853
00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:28,540
Maybe not.

854
00:37:28,540 --> 00:37:32,100
But Ken being asked a question, in shock that he's being asked a question outside of Barbie,

855
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:36,740
is not that out of the realm of what a lot of women deal with in society now.

856
00:37:36,740 --> 00:37:41,580
Going back to what you said, Mike, about Ken being asked about the time, did you have another

857
00:37:41,580 --> 00:37:42,900
thought on that?

858
00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:43,900
Yeah.

859
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:46,260
I just thought it was shocking.

860
00:37:46,260 --> 00:37:50,420
I thought it was illuminating, and they should have expanded on that a little bit, but they

861
00:37:50,420 --> 00:37:51,420
didn't.

862
00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:56,380
How is a man with no children in the school allowed to be on school property without going

863
00:37:56,380 --> 00:37:58,620
through a security checkpoint in California?

864
00:37:58,620 --> 00:38:04,060
Well, that's again, the real world was kind of a fantasy land too.

865
00:38:04,060 --> 00:38:07,380
Like I say, I thought it was really well done.

866
00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:11,820
Unfortunately, the creator of the movie didn't come out and say that it was on purpose, which

867
00:38:11,820 --> 00:38:12,820
kind of sucks.

868
00:38:12,820 --> 00:38:16,180
But there were definitely, there's just so many fantasy elements to it.

869
00:38:16,180 --> 00:38:17,180
Yeah.

870
00:38:17,180 --> 00:38:21,820
And it's a lot of it is over the head, but a lot of it's also nuanced.

871
00:38:21,820 --> 00:38:26,780
And like I said, I just, I wish they would have followed a lot of those threads that

872
00:38:26,780 --> 00:38:30,740
kind of started and they felt like they had a lot of steam when they started a lot of

873
00:38:30,740 --> 00:38:32,740
these thoughts in the movie.

874
00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:36,520
And then they were kind of like, well, we have Will Ferrell on set for like four days,

875
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,480
so let's just let him do his thing.

876
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,460
And then we'll pick up what we have time for at the end of the movie, I guess.

877
00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:42,460
Right.

878
00:38:42,460 --> 00:38:45,140
And Will Ferrell plays the Will Ferrell character that he always plays.

879
00:38:45,140 --> 00:38:46,520
So yeah.

880
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:52,140
And the other Will Ferrell connection is the path to get out of Barbie land and into the

881
00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:59,940
real world and back was way too similar to the path that Will Ferrell took to get out

882
00:38:59,940 --> 00:39:03,300
of the North Pole to New York City in Elf.

883
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:04,300
That's probably on purpose.

884
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:11,900
It might've been on purpose, but it was like, it wasn't quite enough of an homage to it

885
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:15,580
to be as funny as how they did it in Elf.

886
00:39:15,580 --> 00:39:16,580
Sure.

887
00:39:16,580 --> 00:39:17,580
You know what I mean?

888
00:39:17,580 --> 00:39:21,020
Like, and then why would you want to make an homage to Elf in the first place?

889
00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:23,460
Cause that's a man driven film.

890
00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:26,020
Like let's, I mean, make an homage to Alien then.

891
00:39:26,020 --> 00:39:30,500
Like, yeah, it's directed by a man, but main character is not a man.

892
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:35,700
Or a Terminator or like any of these other like strong female characters that almost

893
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:36,700
everybody loves.

894
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:39,860
Like, why not reference some of those in the real world?

895
00:39:39,860 --> 00:39:41,660
You know, like, oh, you're a strong and empowering woman.

896
00:39:41,660 --> 00:39:43,420
Are you Sarah Connor?

897
00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:44,420
Right.

898
00:39:44,420 --> 00:39:45,420
Yeah.

899
00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:46,420
Are you Ripley?

900
00:39:46,420 --> 00:39:47,420
Are you, yeah.

901
00:39:47,420 --> 00:39:48,420
Like, no, none of that.

902
00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:50,220
Why would you encourage a real world matriarchy?

903
00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:55,820
I did kind of like the kids' teardown of Mattel and Barbie when Barbie first went to go see

904
00:39:55,820 --> 00:39:56,820
her at the cafeteria.

905
00:39:56,820 --> 00:39:57,820
Oh yeah.

906
00:39:57,820 --> 00:40:00,860
Well that, I mean, it was mean, but it was mean.

907
00:40:00,860 --> 00:40:05,220
I thought that her portrayal was good because she was mean and unpleasant and she was also

908
00:40:05,220 --> 00:40:10,660
very woke and she came across to me as very unlikable and very teenage-like, you know,

909
00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:11,660
I thought that was on purpose.

910
00:40:11,660 --> 00:40:12,660
You know what I mean?

911
00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:13,660
Like she's just kind of an unlikable, woke-schooled.

912
00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:15,860
Well for Nat, most teenagers are unlikable.

913
00:40:15,860 --> 00:40:16,860
Right.

914
00:40:16,860 --> 00:40:17,860
Yeah.

915
00:40:17,860 --> 00:40:23,260
Person with intellectual disabilities or whatever she said or a person with reality issues or

916
00:40:23,260 --> 00:40:24,260
some shit.

917
00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:25,260
Yeah.

918
00:40:25,260 --> 00:40:26,260
I don't remember the phrasing, but it was good.

919
00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:27,260
Yeah.

920
00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:28,260
It was good.

921
00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:29,260
Like she was so unlikable.

922
00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:34,100
And I did like the twist that it was the mom playing with the Barbie and not the kid.

923
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:35,100
Very well done.

924
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,100
Yep.

925
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:40,020
I recommend to everybody, if you're listening and you haven't seen the Barbie movie, you

926
00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:41,020
should go watch it.

927
00:40:41,020 --> 00:40:42,020
I think it's pretty good.

928
00:40:42,020 --> 00:40:47,020
My Sarah, who of course would never consent to coming on the show, said that she would

929
00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:48,020
like to-

930
00:40:48,020 --> 00:40:49,020
Wherever she may be.

931
00:40:49,020 --> 00:40:50,020
Wherever she may be.

932
00:40:50,020 --> 00:40:54,540
She said that she wants to buy the Barbie movie and own it at the house because she

933
00:40:54,540 --> 00:40:55,860
really enjoyed it.

934
00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:57,660
This is what I have told people.

935
00:40:57,660 --> 00:41:01,700
We haven't talked about Oppenheimer on the podcast and I don't know if you saw it, Mike.

936
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:02,700
I have not.

937
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:08,780
But I'm only going to talk about it briefly because of the kind of dual marketing of Barbie

938
00:41:08,780 --> 00:41:09,780
and Oppenheimer.

939
00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:13,060
So I went and saw Oppenheimer first in theaters because I had a buddy that was like, hey,

940
00:41:13,060 --> 00:41:15,060
you want to come with me and some other friends to see Oppenheimer?

941
00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:16,860
I'm like, yeah, I really want to see it.

942
00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:19,300
Because Christopher Nolan outside of Tenant.

943
00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:20,900
Christopher Nolan is really good.

944
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:22,140
And I don't know what he was doing with Tenant.

945
00:41:22,140 --> 00:41:23,820
I don't think he knows what he was doing with Tenant.

946
00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:24,820
That's not what we're talking about.

947
00:41:24,820 --> 00:41:25,820
We're talking about Oppenheimer.

948
00:41:25,820 --> 00:41:27,340
And we just sat in regular theater.

949
00:41:27,340 --> 00:41:31,460
We didn't go to IMAX, even though Christopher Nolan was like, oh, guys, if you want to see

950
00:41:31,460 --> 00:41:35,140
the best version of Oppenheimer, you got to go see it in IMAX.

951
00:41:35,140 --> 00:41:36,580
Please don't go see it in IMAX.

952
00:41:36,580 --> 00:41:42,700
If you want to see 12 Angry Men in IMAX, like a courtroom drama in IMAX, everybody with

953
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:45,740
like elongated heads, I guess knock yourself out.

954
00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:47,940
But this is not a movie that lends itself to IMAX.

955
00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:49,900
No, you should have an avatar.

956
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:50,900
It's avatar.

957
00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:51,900
Yeah.

958
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:52,900
Yeah.

959
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:54,380
Anything other than Oppenheimer, which is like a talkie drama.

960
00:41:54,380 --> 00:41:55,380
Right.

961
00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:56,380
Yeah.

962
00:41:56,380 --> 00:41:57,380
Blue titties, blue titties on a big screen.

963
00:41:57,380 --> 00:41:58,380
That's what you want.

964
00:41:58,380 --> 00:41:59,380
Yeah.

965
00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:02,420
Tales intertwined larger than the patriarchal slogan.

966
00:42:02,420 --> 00:42:03,420
I am drooling.

967
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:04,420
Yes.

968
00:42:04,420 --> 00:42:06,620
I would say they're drooling, but I don't know.

969
00:42:06,620 --> 00:42:07,900
I guess anything's possible.

970
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:10,820
Men can menstruate.

971
00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:13,020
And men can have children.

972
00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:15,580
I am trying to talk about Oppenheimer.

973
00:42:15,580 --> 00:42:17,260
God damn it.

974
00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:22,180
But Oppenheimer kind of walked the line in the middle and never really made a strong

975
00:42:22,180 --> 00:42:27,700
case one way or the other about the bomb and never really made a strong case one way or

976
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:31,820
the other about if Oppenheimer was a good guy or a bad guy.

977
00:42:31,820 --> 00:42:32,820
Interesting.

978
00:42:32,820 --> 00:42:34,200
And it's like three hours long.

979
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,780
And so I was talking to one of my buddies, they're like, oh, you said Oppenheimer and

980
00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:37,780
Barbie.

981
00:42:37,780 --> 00:42:38,780
Like, what do you think?

982
00:42:38,780 --> 00:42:39,780
And I'm like, you know what?

983
00:42:39,780 --> 00:42:43,020
I would watch Barbie again before I would ever watch Oppenheimer again.

984
00:42:43,020 --> 00:42:44,020
Interesting.

985
00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:48,980
Not that I disliked Oppenheimer, but for a three hour movie that has nothing to say and

986
00:42:48,980 --> 00:42:53,340
no stunning visuals, the explosion looked like crap, dude.

987
00:42:53,340 --> 00:42:56,340
Like the big explosion, everyone is like all ready to shoot their wad over.

988
00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:57,340
Yep.

989
00:42:57,340 --> 00:43:00,620
Or respectfully touch their private parts over in private for the matriarchy people.

990
00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:01,900
Like it wasn't that good.

991
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:03,100
Like I've had better.

992
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:09,940
I understand that the nuclear bomb being dropped is now politically controversial, right?

993
00:43:09,940 --> 00:43:13,420
But at the time it was not controversial.

994
00:43:13,420 --> 00:43:18,340
So we're trying to take this controversial or the narrative at the time was that it wasn't

995
00:43:18,340 --> 00:43:23,380
usually controversial because I'm sure there are people and the movie goes on to try and

996
00:43:23,380 --> 00:43:28,820
say that a lot of people who made the bomb wanted to do a demonstration on some uninhabited

997
00:43:28,820 --> 00:43:33,340
place and just kind of let the Japanese be like, man, this is what we can do.

998
00:43:33,340 --> 00:43:34,620
It's time to be done fighting.

999
00:43:34,620 --> 00:43:35,620
Right, right.

1000
00:43:35,620 --> 00:43:37,220
That's what the movie claimed.

1001
00:43:37,220 --> 00:43:43,360
Now I don't have any qualms personally about the bomb being dropped because my grandfather

1002
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,620
was stationed off the coast of Japan, getting ready for the invasion was told to tie up

1003
00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:50,120
all of his affairs in life.

1004
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,900
And so he told me when they dropped the bomb, like everybody was just like there would have

1005
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:57,500
been way more loss of life had the invasion taken place.

1006
00:43:57,500 --> 00:44:00,740
Now philosophically, we can talk all day long about philosophically, was that the right

1007
00:44:00,740 --> 00:44:01,740
call or not the right call?

1008
00:44:01,740 --> 00:44:05,540
But I don't have any like real world problems with that because if my grandpa died, I wouldn't

1009
00:44:05,540 --> 00:44:06,540
be here.

1010
00:44:06,540 --> 00:44:09,060
You wouldn't be listening to nice ashes, which is the, I think most important thing, right?

1011
00:44:09,060 --> 00:44:11,140
At least in the lives of the people listening.

1012
00:44:11,140 --> 00:44:12,140
Yes.

1013
00:44:12,140 --> 00:44:13,140
Or our lives.

1014
00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:14,140
Right.

1015
00:44:14,140 --> 00:44:22,620
But I think of the two movies and Christopher Nolan can make really good films, but I think

1016
00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:25,860
Barbie is the better film of the two.

1017
00:44:25,860 --> 00:44:26,860
Interesting.

1018
00:44:26,860 --> 00:44:29,100
I agree with my issues with Barbie.

1019
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:30,100
Right.

1020
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:33,540
The messaging, they needed to add more, not take away.

1021
00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:35,100
They shouldn't have taken anything away.

1022
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:40,220
They should have made some more clarifying statements to make the edges a little sharper.

1023
00:44:40,220 --> 00:44:41,220
Yeah.

1024
00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:42,220
Sharper edges.

1025
00:44:42,220 --> 00:44:48,820
I was more engaged in the Barbie storyline, even though I hated the narration mostly.

1026
00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:52,340
I can see at the very beginning, you kind of need the narration because Barbie like

1027
00:44:52,340 --> 00:44:56,900
floats down from her upstairs bedroom and they were like, yeah, you know, kids play with

1028
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:00,100
Barbie, Barbie doesn't take the stairs, the toys don't even have stairs in them.

1029
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:01,100
They just float Barbie down.

1030
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:03,060
Like, it's kind of like the world setting.

1031
00:45:03,060 --> 00:45:06,860
And so that's fine because it's probably the most efficient way to world set, right?

1032
00:45:06,860 --> 00:45:10,980
Or you have to do like a cut of a girl playing with Barbie and floating her down and then

1033
00:45:10,980 --> 00:45:14,900
cut back to Barbie just floating down without the hands there, which you could do too.

1034
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:17,340
Like that's the whole thing with film is show, don't tell.

1035
00:45:17,340 --> 00:45:22,100
And Barbie did a lot of telling and OpenHiber did like zero telling and zero showing.

1036
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:25,380
So it was kind of convoluted.

1037
00:45:25,380 --> 00:45:29,140
Whereas Barbie at least had a consistent message of patriarchy is bad.

1038
00:45:29,140 --> 00:45:30,140
Okay.

1039
00:45:30,140 --> 00:45:33,500
They didn't take it as far or they didn't point out enough of the things or they didn't

1040
00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:38,180
stick to their guns on enough of the stuff, especially with post movie interviews and

1041
00:45:38,180 --> 00:45:39,980
things like that where they're like, it's just a film.

1042
00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:40,980
It's just a film.

1043
00:45:40,980 --> 00:45:42,180
Like, I don't know why you're trying to cancel it.

1044
00:45:42,180 --> 00:45:43,180
It's just a film.

1045
00:45:43,180 --> 00:45:44,180
Like it's for women, like whatever.

1046
00:45:44,180 --> 00:45:49,800
And it's like, dude, you're making a huge like societal and governmental and corporation

1047
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,940
statement here with your film, like double down on it.

1048
00:45:52,940 --> 00:45:53,940
Just stay strong with it.

1049
00:45:53,940 --> 00:46:01,300
I have a question for you because I found it very interesting and poignant, but really

1050
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:08,740
interesting that in the patriarchy of Ken, Ken land, when all the kids were in charge,

1051
00:46:08,740 --> 00:46:12,740
the main thing the Ken's wanted to do, even though they are now in control of everything,

1052
00:46:12,740 --> 00:46:19,220
was to sing love songs to the Barbies on the beach, on the beach, like even in Ken's ideal

1053
00:46:19,220 --> 00:46:23,580
patriarchal society, the Ken's are still there just trying to like interact with Barbie full

1054
00:46:23,580 --> 00:46:24,580
time.

1055
00:46:24,580 --> 00:46:26,100
They're not really doing anything other than that.

1056
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:28,620
The whole point is that they want to interact with Barbie.

1057
00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:29,620
Yeah.

1058
00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:32,380
And I think that was like, that scene was funny.

1059
00:46:32,380 --> 00:46:33,380
Yes.

1060
00:46:33,380 --> 00:46:34,380
And I liked it.

1061
00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:40,900
And that was what like that had Barbie being like, Hey, I guess he could have come and

1062
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:43,880
hung out like every night didn't have to be girls night.

1063
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:49,420
But then like the Ken wanting so badly to have that attention from Barbie to like, if

1064
00:46:49,420 --> 00:46:53,460
he was in the real world doing that, he would have 15 restraining orders against him like

1065
00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:54,460
instantly.

1066
00:46:54,460 --> 00:46:55,460
Oh, for sure.

1067
00:46:55,460 --> 00:46:59,060
And so, but that's what made that line at the very end where Barbie's like, Ken, you

1068
00:46:59,060 --> 00:47:00,780
got to find out what Ken wants.

1069
00:47:00,780 --> 00:47:05,300
Like you can't just do what you're programmed to do by Mattel or whatever, what have you,

1070
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:06,300
you know, right?

1071
00:47:06,300 --> 00:47:10,380
And it's kind of like, that's one of the subplots of Wally, you know, like he's programmed to

1072
00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:12,940
clean up trash or whatever.

1073
00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:19,140
So you know, fighting against your programming, whether it be mechanical or societal, right?

1074
00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:21,380
Like fight against the programming, like find out what you want.

1075
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:24,180
You don't have to do the things you don't have to have a family.

1076
00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:25,260
You don't have to have a partner.

1077
00:47:25,260 --> 00:47:26,260
You don't have to have kids.

1078
00:47:26,260 --> 00:47:28,380
You don't have to have all of these things.

1079
00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:31,260
You know, you can do whatever you want to do as long as it makes you happy.

1080
00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:34,260
And as long as you don't harm somebody else in the process, basically.

1081
00:47:34,260 --> 00:47:35,260
Right.

1082
00:47:35,260 --> 00:47:39,340
I thought it was very interesting to the Barbies, even after they got brought back

1083
00:47:39,340 --> 00:47:44,740
to their right mind so that they missed being like the Barbie in Ken land.

1084
00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:45,740
Yeah.

1085
00:47:45,740 --> 00:47:50,140
And that's kind of interesting too, because there's been some, and we talked about this

1086
00:47:50,140 --> 00:47:54,540
on one of our most recent, more recent episodes where, or maybe we just talked about when

1087
00:47:54,540 --> 00:47:59,220
you and I were hanging out and not recording, it's tough to tell the lines blur between

1088
00:47:59,220 --> 00:48:05,820
Mike and Nate land and the real world where there's been some women on Tik TOK or other

1089
00:48:05,820 --> 00:48:07,580
things that have video stuff.

1090
00:48:07,580 --> 00:48:11,180
And they're basically like in tears, like this is what we fought for.

1091
00:48:11,180 --> 00:48:12,900
We fought for the right to work.

1092
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:13,900
Like this sucks.

1093
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:15,180
Like, why did we do this?

1094
00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:19,220
We could have just stayed at home and we could have been at home with our families.

1095
00:48:19,220 --> 00:48:22,700
We could have been at home with our friends and now we fought so hard to go and fucking

1096
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:23,700
work and it's terrible.

1097
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:25,180
I don't know, life is pain.

1098
00:48:25,180 --> 00:48:26,180
Yeah.

1099
00:48:26,180 --> 00:48:31,420
But I mean, like, so I understood that as like the counterpoint maybe to the matriarchy,

1100
00:48:31,420 --> 00:48:36,420
but I still wanted that ideal situation at the end that only Barbie land could have given

1101
00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:37,420
us.

1102
00:48:37,420 --> 00:48:39,380
It could have been, we're unified.

1103
00:48:39,380 --> 00:48:45,460
We're Mattel doll land or something, or we're Barbie and Ken land, or we're, you know, instead

1104
00:48:45,460 --> 00:48:49,640
of, ah, we might be able to find a place for you somewhere lower down in the courts as

1105
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,140
a bailiff maybe, but not on the Supreme court for sure.

1106
00:48:53,140 --> 00:48:56,200
You know, like if they would have just leaned into the, what's the ideal?

1107
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,040
Because so much of it is the reparation talk.

1108
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,220
So much of it is the, well, we've been held down for so long.

1109
00:49:01,220 --> 00:49:02,580
Now it's our turn to hold you down.

1110
00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:04,980
And it's like, why does anybody have to be held down?

1111
00:49:04,980 --> 00:49:07,100
Like, I understand you're upset.

1112
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:11,620
They missed an opportunity when the Barbies took back their constitution to not like making

1113
00:49:11,620 --> 00:49:14,420
an equal society at that point in time.

1114
00:49:14,420 --> 00:49:15,420
Yeah.

1115
00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:18,700
Now Ken only has three fifths of a vote.

1116
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:19,700
Right.

1117
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:20,700
Exactly.

1118
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:23,260
Ken, go back to the beach.

1119
00:49:23,260 --> 00:49:25,900
Go back to sleeping on your bench or whatever.

1120
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:28,340
Oh, such drama.

1121
00:49:28,340 --> 00:49:29,340
Such drama.

1122
00:49:29,340 --> 00:49:30,340
His cardboard wave.

1123
00:49:30,340 --> 00:49:31,340
His cardboard.

1124
00:49:31,340 --> 00:49:32,340
Yeah.

1125
00:49:32,340 --> 00:49:35,220
Go sleep on the cardboard wave and drown your tears, freak.

1126
00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:41,100
If you cry enough, Ken, it'll be a real beach and he'll be a real boy.

1127
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:42,100
Yep.

1128
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:44,780
Go play volleyball beach Barbie Ken person.

1129
00:49:44,780 --> 00:49:50,020
Did they have a boys are back in town playing beach volleyball all a top gun?

1130
00:49:50,020 --> 00:49:51,020
I don't think they did.

1131
00:49:51,020 --> 00:49:52,020
That would have been a great opportunity.

1132
00:49:52,020 --> 00:49:55,180
They had, they had, that would have been a great opportunity.

1133
00:49:55,180 --> 00:50:00,100
I don't think that that scene where the Kens are singing was really meant to be a romancing

1134
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:01,740
scene towards the Barbies.

1135
00:50:01,740 --> 00:50:05,660
The choice of song spoke volumes.

1136
00:50:05,660 --> 00:50:12,340
It was the Kens crying out for attention and saying how depressed they are and it was a

1137
00:50:12,340 --> 00:50:17,460
very passive aggressive way of telling Barbie that they didn't like the system and they

1138
00:50:17,460 --> 00:50:21,820
wanted her attention, which sounds a lot like what women have been doing for a long time,

1139
00:50:21,820 --> 00:50:24,340
which is probably going to get my feminist card revoked.

1140
00:50:24,340 --> 00:50:27,420
But it's a very familiar thing and it was very generic.

1141
00:50:27,420 --> 00:50:32,340
Every single Ken was doing the same song in the same place at the same time.

1142
00:50:32,340 --> 00:50:35,860
The only unique Ken was the one playing the drums.

1143
00:50:35,860 --> 00:50:36,860
Everybody should watch the Barbie movie.

1144
00:50:36,860 --> 00:50:37,860
We're not nearly done with my cigar.

1145
00:50:37,860 --> 00:50:38,860
I still have three inches left.

1146
00:50:38,860 --> 00:50:39,860
How about you?

1147
00:50:39,860 --> 00:50:40,860
Yeah, me too.

1148
00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:43,820
I've heard three inches is enough, but not sure.

1149
00:50:43,820 --> 00:50:47,940
I guess I'd have to go ask Barbie.

1150
00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:50,060
Depends on how you use your inches.

1151
00:50:50,060 --> 00:50:55,900
So I heard Ben Shapiro freaked out over the Barbie movie, but she freaks out about everything.

1152
00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:56,900
I was looking at that.

1153
00:50:56,900 --> 00:51:00,660
Well, then that guy's kind of, I don't know much about that guy other than every time

1154
00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:05,180
I hear something of him, it's like the more ridiculous story than I could even possibly

1155
00:51:05,180 --> 00:51:06,580
imagine in my head.

1156
00:51:06,580 --> 00:51:09,940
Yeah, it's he's a ridiculous character.

1157
00:51:09,940 --> 00:51:14,660
So I was trying to look up some of the backlash on Barbie, you know, and more importantly,

1158
00:51:14,660 --> 00:51:18,220
not the backlash of the Barbie film because there was a lot of like backlash from parents

1159
00:51:18,220 --> 00:51:22,460
like, well, this isn't a kid's movie, you know, and it's like, do you do diligence?

1160
00:51:22,460 --> 00:51:24,940
Like the internet is there.

1161
00:51:24,940 --> 00:51:26,780
The rating is there for a reason.

1162
00:51:26,780 --> 00:51:29,500
You can go online and find out why it's rated PG-13.

1163
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:35,620
If it's rated PG-13 for inciting people to French haircut, then maybe don't bring your

1164
00:51:35,620 --> 00:51:36,620
kids.

1165
00:51:36,620 --> 00:51:42,020
If it's rated PG-13 for, you know, they say fuck once, then maybe your kids okay going

1166
00:51:42,020 --> 00:51:46,260
because you probably say it more in your home than the movie will, you know, but you can

1167
00:51:46,260 --> 00:51:47,380
find out all these things.

1168
00:51:47,380 --> 00:51:51,660
So I wasn't so interested in like the parental things, but I want, and I wasn't so interested

1169
00:51:51,660 --> 00:51:56,340
in the reasoning behind the backlash, you know, having seen the film, I was more interested

1170
00:51:56,340 --> 00:52:01,380
in the filmmakers response to it because that has more to say about the film and the intent

1171
00:52:01,380 --> 00:52:04,980
of the film in most cases than the actual film does sometimes.

1172
00:52:04,980 --> 00:52:05,980
Right.

1173
00:52:05,980 --> 00:52:08,100
And so I was kind of a little disappointed.

1174
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:09,100
Like we talked about that.

1175
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:11,980
They kind of walked it back to, well, this is just a fun movie.

1176
00:52:11,980 --> 00:52:17,660
It's a fun movie that has a lot of political subtext that I really appreciated, even though

1177
00:52:17,660 --> 00:52:21,420
it was a little scattershot, but it was a little scattershot.

1178
00:52:21,420 --> 00:52:25,180
Some of it was a little over, over, you know, like beating people over the head, but some

1179
00:52:25,180 --> 00:52:30,980
people need that, you know, some people don't understand what's going on a lot of times.

1180
00:52:30,980 --> 00:52:31,980
Right.

1181
00:52:31,980 --> 00:52:35,460
And you know, but I just, I wish that they would have said like, well, if you don't get

1182
00:52:35,460 --> 00:52:37,140
it, then it wasn't it.

1183
00:52:37,140 --> 00:52:38,500
Like it wasn't a movie for you to watch.

1184
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:40,700
Like go watch the latest Fast and Furious.

1185
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:41,700
Right.

1186
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:42,700
Yeah.

1187
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:43,700
Go watch Transformers.

1188
00:52:43,700 --> 00:52:44,700
Like you don't have to make a statement.

1189
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:47,620
Your statement is, well, don't watch Barbie then go watch Fast and Furious.

1190
00:52:47,620 --> 00:52:48,620
Right.

1191
00:52:48,620 --> 00:52:49,620
Yeah.

1192
00:52:49,620 --> 00:52:54,020
There's I'm sure I've only seen the first like four of those movies and they're up to

1193
00:52:54,020 --> 00:52:56,820
10 somehow and I don't understand it.

1194
00:52:56,820 --> 00:52:58,300
And it's not a movie that appeals to me.

1195
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:03,340
Like I just, I watched, I can't remember how many Fast and Furious movies, like two maybe.

1196
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:04,340
I don't know.

1197
00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:06,500
I stopped watching them when I became an adult.

1198
00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:12,180
So whenever, whatever number they were, when I was no longer a teenager, when you realize

1199
00:53:12,180 --> 00:53:18,300
your car or your Barbie love interest doesn't define who you are as Ken.

1200
00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:19,300
Right.

1201
00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:20,300
Exactly.

1202
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:21,300
Exactly.

1203
00:53:21,300 --> 00:53:23,220
Although Ken Summer was pretty sweet.

1204
00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:24,220
I know.

1205
00:53:24,220 --> 00:53:25,220
I know.

1206
00:53:25,220 --> 00:53:29,620
I thought it was, I thought Kenland had a lot of cool shit in it to be honest with you.

1207
00:53:29,620 --> 00:53:34,580
I was like, and then I was very confused because they did the patriarchy flash scenes and it

1208
00:53:34,580 --> 00:53:37,340
had Sylvester Stallone like three times.

1209
00:53:37,340 --> 00:53:40,580
I was like, are they trying to call it Sylvester Stallone?

1210
00:53:40,580 --> 00:53:42,620
Like Sylvester Stallone's awesome.

1211
00:53:42,620 --> 00:53:44,180
And then somebody-

1212
00:53:44,180 --> 00:53:47,020
Please buddies with our best bud, Arnold.

1213
00:53:47,020 --> 00:53:48,020
I know.

1214
00:53:48,020 --> 00:53:49,020
Right.

1215
00:53:49,020 --> 00:53:50,020
Somebody said, oh, it's all about toxic masculinity.

1216
00:53:50,020 --> 00:53:53,660
And I'm like, why is anything that men like toxic all of a sudden?

1217
00:53:53,660 --> 00:53:54,660
You know?

1218
00:53:54,660 --> 00:53:55,660
Yeah.

1219
00:53:55,660 --> 00:53:56,660
What I heard-

1220
00:53:56,660 --> 00:54:00,740
Perhaps they didn't mean that everything that men like is toxic, but the approach of all

1221
00:54:00,740 --> 00:54:07,300
of the macho things in Ken's mojo dojo was the toxic personality traits that are being

1222
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:13,300
drilled into little boys about how they have to be tough and love things like cowboys and

1223
00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:15,300
macho frat houses and Sylvester Stallone.

1224
00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:18,460
I don't know if I should respond, but the only people drilling little boys are the Catholic

1225
00:54:18,460 --> 00:54:19,460
priests.

1226
00:54:19,460 --> 00:54:27,340
Also, I'm pretty sure that every man in some form is a Ken when it comes to their vehicle.

1227
00:54:27,340 --> 00:54:32,740
I happen to know a man who spent a lot of extra money to trick out a vehicle that they're

1228
00:54:32,740 --> 00:54:38,660
still very proud of that defines them in a way that they probably don't want to admit

1229
00:54:38,660 --> 00:54:43,380
to because your car always in some way matches your personality.

1230
00:54:43,380 --> 00:54:46,740
If you're able to afford a car, it does.

1231
00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:56,020
And I think that buying a big truck with customized seats in it says a lot about your Ken personality.

1232
00:54:56,020 --> 00:55:02,020
I don't know anybody that has a truck with custom leather seats and added foam and contouring,

1233
00:55:02,020 --> 00:55:03,020
but I do know that if they-

1234
00:55:03,020 --> 00:55:04,420
We weren't talking about trucks.

1235
00:55:04,420 --> 00:55:10,620
We were talking about toxic masculinity, and the most toxic thing about masculinity is

1236
00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:13,060
the lack of masculinity, basically.

1237
00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:14,980
Meaning that they need-

1238
00:55:14,980 --> 00:55:19,260
Meaning somebody took your truck and backed it into another truck and destroyed the bumper

1239
00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:20,740
and bent the fender.

1240
00:55:20,740 --> 00:55:27,100
Well, Ken needed the validation of Barbie to feel good about Ken, and that's not masculinity.

1241
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:29,860
That's the lack of masculinity.

1242
00:55:29,860 --> 00:55:34,380
It's not really even about the gendering of the linearity or whatever, the entity.

1243
00:55:34,380 --> 00:55:35,820
I don't know, femininity or masculinity.

1244
00:55:35,820 --> 00:55:36,820
It's not even about the gendering.

1245
00:55:36,820 --> 00:55:39,140
It's about the individuality.

1246
00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:44,900
If as an individual, you need external validation to feel good about yourself, then you're toxic.

1247
00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:45,900
Right.

1248
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:51,220
Regardless of gender, which is what the Barbie movie could have done at the very end with

1249
00:55:51,220 --> 00:55:53,820
the matriarchy bad, patriarchy bad.

1250
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:56,020
Horses, surprisingly, not that bad.

1251
00:55:56,020 --> 00:55:57,020
Geese, bad.

1252
00:55:57,020 --> 00:55:58,020
Yes.

1253
00:55:58,020 --> 00:56:03,580
They could have had a goose shitting through a screen door and that could have been bad.

1254
00:56:03,580 --> 00:56:05,700
Yeah, they could have done anything.

1255
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:10,740
Flocky geese descends on beach and Ken must defend beach.

1256
00:56:10,740 --> 00:56:11,740
With big guns.

1257
00:56:11,740 --> 00:56:12,740
Yeah.

1258
00:56:12,740 --> 00:56:15,580
I like the fight scene because it was very silly.

1259
00:56:15,580 --> 00:56:16,580
Because it was very silly.

1260
00:56:16,580 --> 00:56:19,100
Yeah, I don't know why the horses were...

1261
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:21,540
In filmmaking, there's only like three plots, right?

1262
00:56:21,540 --> 00:56:25,540
It's like man versus man, man versus nature, or man versus...

1263
00:56:25,540 --> 00:56:27,540
What was the other one?

1264
00:56:27,540 --> 00:56:32,580
Man versus, I don't know, woman driving truck, something like that.

1265
00:56:32,580 --> 00:56:35,380
Yeah, into stuff, damaging bumper and fender.

1266
00:56:35,380 --> 00:56:41,140
It's fascinating how the Barbie matriarchy survived for decades just fine and worked

1267
00:56:41,140 --> 00:56:46,460
together and the Kens were in charge for what, 24 hours before they went to war with each

1268
00:56:46,460 --> 00:56:48,820
other and they didn't even know why?

1269
00:56:48,820 --> 00:56:49,820
That's amazing.

1270
00:56:49,820 --> 00:56:50,820
It's like a great commentary of the patriarchy there.

1271
00:56:50,820 --> 00:56:53,340
It's like a sewage backing up in the street though.

1272
00:56:53,340 --> 00:56:57,420
Yeah, it's almost like an allegory for the war in Ukraine.

1273
00:56:57,420 --> 00:57:01,300
I'm sure you weren't talking about your Sarah, Mike, about the truck stuff that randomly

1274
00:57:01,300 --> 00:57:02,780
appeared out of the blue.

1275
00:57:02,780 --> 00:57:08,500
But my Sarah also backed my car, which I still have, into a light pole when I was trying

1276
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:09,500
to teach her how to drive manual.

1277
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:12,360
And we were in the middle of this parking lot.

1278
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:18,020
There wasn't a light pole for miles and she slammed it into reverse and bam, there's a

1279
00:57:18,020 --> 00:57:19,020
light pole out of nowhere.

1280
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:20,980
I'm sure there was a patch of ice.

1281
00:57:20,980 --> 00:57:21,980
And it was summertime.

1282
00:57:21,980 --> 00:57:22,980
I remember it well.

1283
00:57:22,980 --> 00:57:25,660
The windows were down, the summer breeze blowing in our hair.

1284
00:57:25,660 --> 00:57:27,900
Well, not my hair, but my chest hair.

1285
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:29,340
Your hair, your one hair?

1286
00:57:29,340 --> 00:57:33,620
Yeah, my Sean Connery chest hair was being ruffled, tickled my nipples.

1287
00:57:33,620 --> 00:57:37,820
But I still drive my car and we talked about this two episodes ago or three episodes ago

1288
00:57:37,820 --> 00:57:39,340
or something like that.

1289
00:57:39,340 --> 00:57:43,060
And Mike, you'll be glad to know I got brand new headlight casings.

1290
00:57:43,060 --> 00:57:44,060
Did you really?

1291
00:57:44,060 --> 00:57:47,020
They are so clear.

1292
00:57:47,020 --> 00:57:50,980
And as soon as I ordered new bulbs too, I got all new bulbs for the front.

1293
00:57:50,980 --> 00:57:56,460
And once that happens, so I guess my personality, if my vehicle defines my personality, the

1294
00:57:56,460 --> 00:58:02,420
2004 Honda Civic Hybrid Manual means I can run on a lot of different things and I'm just

1295
00:58:02,420 --> 00:58:07,960
going to keep going because I'm at almost 320,000 miles on this thing, rusted out, man,

1296
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,980
like rusted runs like a dream.

1297
00:58:09,980 --> 00:58:11,660
So my sarcasm will never end.

1298
00:58:11,660 --> 00:58:13,980
It will keep coming and coming and coming.

1299
00:58:13,980 --> 00:58:18,760
I think it says a lot about you that you want society to stare at your nice new headlights

1300
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,660
on your old car.

1301
00:58:20,660 --> 00:58:24,340
Got the new casings and the new bulbs are all perky and bright now.

1302
00:58:24,340 --> 00:58:27,820
I have no idea why boob jobs are a thing that has nothing to do with headlights.

1303
00:58:27,820 --> 00:58:28,980
Why am I even talking about that?

1304
00:58:28,980 --> 00:58:29,980
It doesn't make any sense.

1305
00:58:29,980 --> 00:58:33,340
I, you know, I've never understood that trend either.

1306
00:58:33,340 --> 00:58:35,420
I'm not like what is that?

1307
00:58:35,420 --> 00:58:38,540
The fake boobs is like disturbing most of the time.

1308
00:58:38,540 --> 00:58:41,140
Like you look like you're out of a like a circus show.

1309
00:58:41,140 --> 00:58:42,140
You know what I mean?

1310
00:58:42,140 --> 00:58:46,860
Are you talking about like biological women or like real women?

1311
00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:50,340
Well, the beautiful women of the world, I cannot criticize.

1312
00:58:50,340 --> 00:58:52,540
I can only criticize the biological ones.

1313
00:58:52,540 --> 00:58:55,540
So beautiful women.

1314
00:58:55,540 --> 00:58:59,460
Hile of the patriarchy.

1315
00:58:59,460 --> 00:59:04,780
Here's what I, here's what I wanted at the very end of Barbie was for Ken, one of the

1316
00:59:04,780 --> 00:59:11,420
most famous men's, I don't care which one, to say Barbie Barbies, I want you Barbie to

1317
00:59:11,420 --> 00:59:14,300
have the same size pockets as all of us.

1318
00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:18,980
Ken's do in all of your outfits because us as Ken's are fine with you having the same

1319
00:59:18,980 --> 00:59:20,780
size pockets as men.

1320
00:59:20,780 --> 00:59:23,460
We would love for you to have larger pockets.

1321
00:59:23,460 --> 00:59:27,980
Barbie just wants a t-shirt made out of the same thickness of material as current that

1322
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:30,820
will last more than five minutes against a belt buckle.

1323
00:59:30,820 --> 00:59:36,700
You know, I think that if Ken would have talked about the pockets, then they gave it to explain

1324
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:39,580
that they do make clothing that have proper pockets and thicknesses.

1325
00:59:39,580 --> 00:59:43,340
You just have to buy like work clothes and not stylish clothes.

1326
00:59:43,340 --> 00:59:47,940
You know what's funny is all my stylish clothes have pockets big enough to fit my new phone,

1327
00:59:47,940 --> 00:59:48,940
which is big.

1328
00:59:48,940 --> 00:59:49,940
Right.

1329
00:59:49,940 --> 00:59:50,940
Oh yeah.

1330
00:59:50,940 --> 00:59:51,940
Even my suit.

1331
00:59:51,940 --> 00:59:55,620
I can fit like a ham and cheese sandwich in the other pocket with like my cigar cutter

1332
00:59:55,620 --> 00:59:59,820
lighter, five cigars and the fire extinguisher in case I get a little carried away with my

1333
00:59:59,820 --> 01:00:00,820
cigars.

1334
01:00:00,820 --> 01:00:06,500
I'd love to know the last time Mike actually went and looked at the work clothes versus

1335
01:00:06,500 --> 01:00:11,180
casual or dress clothes made for women to get his information.

1336
01:00:11,180 --> 01:00:15,860
I think that some of the matriarchies conversation got cut off because I accidentally hit mute.

1337
01:00:15,860 --> 01:00:16,860
Oh yeah.

1338
01:00:16,860 --> 01:00:17,860
Accidentally.

1339
01:00:17,860 --> 01:00:25,660
I think the matriarchies food is actually going to go up the patriarchy's ass.

1340
01:00:25,660 --> 01:00:33,500
I think that I might've had to make a cough and I forgot that you were talking.

1341
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:37,180
But I have recently looked at men's work clothes.

1342
01:00:37,180 --> 01:00:40,420
You have?

1343
01:00:40,420 --> 01:00:42,500
When you were repairing all of your men's work clothes?

1344
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:43,500
No, no, no.

1345
01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:47,700
I guess I was repairing my men's work clothes and I was like, well, they're on sale at the

1346
01:00:47,700 --> 01:00:51,420
store so I'm going to check them out and see if I can get a good deal.

1347
01:00:51,420 --> 01:00:52,860
And they had only half off.

1348
01:00:52,860 --> 01:00:56,180
And they were all thin ass, weak work pants.

1349
01:00:56,180 --> 01:00:57,700
I'm like, these aren't work pants.

1350
01:00:57,700 --> 01:00:59,820
These are like women's pants.

1351
01:00:59,820 --> 01:01:01,420
They're not like that thick.

1352
01:01:01,420 --> 01:01:06,140
I want like 15 weight, heavy duty, like canvas or denim.

1353
01:01:06,140 --> 01:01:08,260
None of that matters, Mike.

1354
01:01:08,260 --> 01:01:09,260
Were they farm fitting?

1355
01:01:09,260 --> 01:01:10,260
They were.

1356
01:01:10,260 --> 01:01:11,500
How did your ass look in them?

1357
01:01:11,500 --> 01:01:12,500
They are flex.

1358
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:13,500
That's all I care about.

1359
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:15,900
They're like flex technology, blah, blah, blah, which all that tells me is that now

1360
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:17,980
you have a pair of carpenter pants that are tight.

1361
01:01:17,980 --> 01:01:22,620
You have to have an ass to know what it looks like in a pair of pants.

1362
01:01:22,620 --> 01:01:24,460
I wear a god damn belt.

1363
01:01:24,460 --> 01:01:29,580
So I wear a belt too, but people like to pants me for some reason.

1364
01:01:29,580 --> 01:01:30,580
And then it's my fault.

1365
01:01:30,580 --> 01:01:32,660
My dick is out.

1366
01:01:32,660 --> 01:01:33,660
It's really shocking.

1367
01:01:33,660 --> 01:01:36,620
I carry a bike while I carry a Leatherman everywhere.

1368
01:01:36,620 --> 01:01:39,020
So it's a lot easier to carry on a belt.

1369
01:01:39,020 --> 01:01:40,020
Yeah.

1370
01:01:40,020 --> 01:01:41,140
Carry things in my pocket.

1371
01:01:41,140 --> 01:01:45,020
I wouldn't need a belt, but because I put things in my pockets, because I have big pockets

1372
01:01:45,020 --> 01:01:48,020
because rah rah patriarchy, I need a belt.

1373
01:01:48,020 --> 01:01:49,020
Right.

1374
01:01:49,020 --> 01:01:52,700
When I was a kid, I took a lethal dose of no acetal.

1375
01:01:52,700 --> 01:01:55,300
So now I need a belt pretty much all the time.

1376
01:01:55,300 --> 01:01:58,780
I'm glad you recovered though, at least enough to be on the podcast from that.

1377
01:01:58,780 --> 01:01:59,780
Yeah.

1378
01:01:59,780 --> 01:02:00,780
Yeah.

1379
01:02:00,780 --> 01:02:04,780
I mean, I was in the hospital for days, but I made a full, well, a semi recovery, but

1380
01:02:04,780 --> 01:02:06,780
yeah, not a full cheek recovery, but

1381
01:02:06,780 --> 01:02:13,940
You were released a couple of days before the full moon.

1382
01:02:13,940 --> 01:02:14,940
That's right.

1383
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:16,420
Half moon at best.

1384
01:02:16,420 --> 01:02:19,940
Well, you're not a plumber, so that doesn't really matter.

1385
01:02:19,940 --> 01:02:24,180
No, and I don't know anybody who is a plumber who would be listening, but I know everything

1386
01:02:24,180 --> 01:02:25,580
there is to know about plumbing.

1387
01:02:25,580 --> 01:02:26,580
All right.

1388
01:02:26,580 --> 01:02:28,660
Paychecks on Fridays, shit rolls downhill.

1389
01:02:28,660 --> 01:02:29,660
Don't chew your fingernails.

1390
01:02:29,660 --> 01:02:33,580
I'm sure he's well qualified based on how his pants hang on his lack of ass to be a

1391
01:02:33,580 --> 01:02:34,580
plumber.

1392
01:02:34,580 --> 01:02:37,380
Also, Mike, I have to say this because he does listen.

1393
01:02:37,380 --> 01:02:40,380
You know, he's a plumber, right?

1394
01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:43,380
Of course I do.

1395
01:02:43,380 --> 01:02:50,780
His child told me so, which was the cutest thing ever.

1396
01:02:50,780 --> 01:02:53,180
I just didn't want to go Greta Gerwig on this podcast.

1397
01:02:53,180 --> 01:02:55,460
I wanted to tie up that loose thread.

1398
01:02:55,460 --> 01:02:56,460
Okay.

1399
01:02:56,460 --> 01:02:57,460
Yeah.

1400
01:02:57,460 --> 01:03:02,340
I thought my tone was intentioned well.

1401
01:03:02,340 --> 01:03:06,980
Me as well, but I wanted to clarify because I know you better than some people who might

1402
01:03:06,980 --> 01:03:07,980
be listening.

1403
01:03:07,980 --> 01:03:09,620
So yeah, I suppose so.

1404
01:03:09,620 --> 01:03:15,100
I said to make fun because, you know, once upon a time I was an electrician and for whatever

1405
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:21,180
reason there's always like the fake competition between trades on sites.

1406
01:03:21,180 --> 01:03:22,180
It's kind of goofy.

1407
01:03:22,180 --> 01:03:24,180
I don't really know what the story is behind that, but.

1408
01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:26,260
It's patriarchy, man.

1409
01:03:26,260 --> 01:03:27,260
Horses do it too.

1410
01:03:27,260 --> 01:03:28,260
It's weird.

1411
01:03:28,260 --> 01:03:29,260
Horses do it too.

1412
01:03:29,260 --> 01:03:30,260
Oh, geez.

1413
01:03:30,260 --> 01:03:31,260
Yeah.

1414
01:03:31,260 --> 01:03:32,260
I'm a draft horse.

1415
01:03:32,260 --> 01:03:33,260
I'm a carriage horse.

1416
01:03:33,260 --> 01:03:34,260
I'm a riding horse.

1417
01:03:34,260 --> 01:03:35,260
I'm a horse's ass.

1418
01:03:35,260 --> 01:03:36,260
Like they all fight.

1419
01:03:36,260 --> 01:03:38,420
So are you relighting your cigar, Mike?

1420
01:03:38,420 --> 01:03:41,340
I am down to almost finger burning.

1421
01:03:41,340 --> 01:03:42,340
This one was really good.

1422
01:03:42,340 --> 01:03:44,140
I've never had the Hoya before.

1423
01:03:44,140 --> 01:03:46,180
No, I've never had one either.

1424
01:03:46,180 --> 01:03:48,300
The band, the inside of the band is really good.

1425
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:49,780
That's a lot of good information.

1426
01:03:49,780 --> 01:03:53,020
It's like pretty modern with all the Facebook stuff and their website.

1427
01:03:53,020 --> 01:03:54,020
Oh yeah, yeah.

1428
01:03:54,020 --> 01:03:55,660
It says experience the patriarchy with us.

1429
01:03:55,660 --> 01:03:57,780
Keep smoking our cigars.

1430
01:03:57,780 --> 01:03:58,780
I'm just kidding.

1431
01:03:58,780 --> 01:03:59,780
It doesn't say that.

1432
01:03:59,780 --> 01:04:04,420
I do like the design of this one because it's like an arrow.

1433
01:04:04,420 --> 01:04:08,340
Does that label give tips on how to effectively use three inches?

1434
01:04:08,340 --> 01:04:15,300
This label is not three inches long, but it does say for best use, stick it in the mouth.

1435
01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:16,300
Yes.

1436
01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:19,060
I think that it gave Bill Clinton like directions actually.

1437
01:04:19,060 --> 01:04:20,060
Yeah.

1438
01:04:20,060 --> 01:04:21,460
He didn't inhale though, but...

1439
01:04:21,460 --> 01:04:22,460
He did not.

1440
01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:23,460
He did not.

1441
01:04:23,460 --> 01:04:24,820
I did see a Bill Clinton meme today.

1442
01:04:24,820 --> 01:04:30,620
It was him standing, smiling with Monica and the caption was, back when presidents didn't

1443
01:04:30,620 --> 01:04:34,900
care if you took a knee.

1444
01:04:34,900 --> 01:04:37,900
I don't know what that means, but I'm sure it's something clever.

1445
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:38,900
Yeah, yeah.

1446
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:42,460
I never understood why people were so upset about Monica Lewinsky and then they were fun

1447
01:04:42,460 --> 01:04:45,020
over how she looked, which I thought she looked fine.

1448
01:04:45,020 --> 01:04:46,020
That's patriarchy.

1449
01:04:46,020 --> 01:04:47,020
That's weird stuff.

1450
01:04:47,020 --> 01:04:48,300
I don't know that that's patriarchy.

1451
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:51,060
That's probably just like pure assholishness, yes.

1452
01:04:51,060 --> 01:04:52,060
Sure.

1453
01:04:52,060 --> 01:04:55,420
I like the meme you sent me with Princess Peach and Mario.

1454
01:04:55,420 --> 01:04:56,420
Yeah.

1455
01:04:56,420 --> 01:04:57,940
I thought that was great.

1456
01:04:57,940 --> 01:05:02,140
I thought you sent me that one or did we send each other different ones?

1457
01:05:02,140 --> 01:05:04,060
Maybe I did send it to you.

1458
01:05:04,060 --> 01:05:05,500
Maybe I did send it to you.

1459
01:05:05,500 --> 01:05:07,100
We send back a lot of memes.

1460
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:10,660
I can't remember what happens, where they came from, who it got them from or who it

1461
01:05:10,660 --> 01:05:11,660
sent them to.

1462
01:05:11,660 --> 01:05:12,660
Yeah, where do they come from?

1463
01:05:12,660 --> 01:05:13,660
Where do they go?

1464
01:05:13,660 --> 01:05:14,660
Something, something, Katnai Joe.

1465
01:05:14,660 --> 01:05:15,660
Yep.

1466
01:05:15,660 --> 01:05:16,660
Katnai Joe Biden.

1467
01:05:16,660 --> 01:05:17,660
Katnai Joe Biden.

1468
01:05:17,660 --> 01:05:18,660
Corn pop.

1469
01:05:18,660 --> 01:05:19,660
I agree with Mike's sentiments.

1470
01:05:19,660 --> 01:05:32,820
If you haven't seen Barbie, it's not necessarily a movie for everybody, but it's not necessarily

1471
01:05:32,820 --> 01:05:34,420
a movie solely for women.

1472
01:05:34,420 --> 01:05:42,420
I'd say it's a movie for individuals secure in themselves, regardless of male or female,

1473
01:05:42,420 --> 01:05:46,580
because it kind of took jabs at how everything is.

1474
01:05:46,580 --> 01:05:48,420
It made jabs at how things are.

1475
01:05:48,420 --> 01:05:51,820
I just wish it had more statements on how things should be.

1476
01:05:51,820 --> 01:05:52,820
Yeah.

1477
01:05:52,820 --> 01:05:53,820
Yeah.

1478
01:05:53,820 --> 01:05:57,380
That's the one thing I thought was kind of missing at the end, because they set up Barbie

1479
01:05:57,380 --> 01:06:02,500
Land as being utopia, and then they found out it wasn't.

1480
01:06:02,500 --> 01:06:06,380
And then they kind of went back to how it was at the beginning.

1481
01:06:06,380 --> 01:06:11,180
And so I just like watching this movie, I kept thinking like, man, I'd almost rather

1482
01:06:11,180 --> 01:06:14,260
just watch Toy Story for the funny Barbie stuff.

1483
01:06:14,260 --> 01:06:19,460
Like if it was being billed as purely a comedy, I don't know that it was that funny.

1484
01:06:19,460 --> 01:06:22,060
Oh, I thought it was pretty funny.

1485
01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:23,180
Some scenes are very funny.

1486
01:06:23,180 --> 01:06:26,180
It's more of a social commentary though than it is funny.

1487
01:06:26,180 --> 01:06:30,060
Whereas like, the accuracy is funny and a social commentary.

1488
01:06:30,060 --> 01:06:31,060
Wow.

1489
01:06:31,060 --> 01:06:32,060
That's danger zone.

1490
01:06:32,060 --> 01:06:38,780
I know some people that don't seem to think that Idiocracy is the brilliant documentary

1491
01:06:38,780 --> 01:06:42,420
about what is happening to America in the future that I think it is.

1492
01:06:42,420 --> 01:06:43,420
Yes.

1493
01:06:43,420 --> 01:06:46,980
Go to your hot pink bathroom and cry a river.

1494
01:06:46,980 --> 01:06:52,460
I kept thinking that like, if you want to see a movie where the system is broken and

1495
01:06:52,460 --> 01:06:56,960
then they fix it, like Zootopia, like all day long.

1496
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:02,380
So I just wanted kind of a little bit more closure than the Barbie movie gave.

1497
01:07:02,380 --> 01:07:07,000
And maybe the Barbie movie intentionally didn't give closure because they wanted the viewers

1498
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,900
to go out and do closure, but they didn't really do a very strong call to action to

1499
01:07:11,900 --> 01:07:16,680
get the viewers out of the movie theater and like making changes in their lives either

1500
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:21,940
because they kind of then relegated Ken back to where Ken was at the beginning with albeit

1501
01:07:21,940 --> 01:07:24,420
slightly expanded rights or something.

1502
01:07:24,420 --> 01:07:29,100
You know, did they or did they encourage Ken to go and make the world for himself rather

1503
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:32,140
than relying on someone else to make it for him?

1504
01:07:32,140 --> 01:07:36,220
They're encouraging the men to make the patriarchy for themselves.

1505
01:07:36,220 --> 01:07:38,820
Never thought of that.

1506
01:07:38,820 --> 01:07:45,220
Or maybe the matriarchy is encouraging equal partnership where everybody gets choices and

1507
01:07:45,220 --> 01:07:46,220
power.

1508
01:07:46,220 --> 01:07:51,180
The patriarchy encourages equal power too, but women just don't want to be sewer cleaners.

1509
01:07:51,180 --> 01:07:52,180
It's weird.

1510
01:07:52,180 --> 01:07:53,180
I don't know.

1511
01:07:53,180 --> 01:08:00,820
What I know is that until women have equal parity in all jobs, we're not an equal society.

1512
01:08:00,820 --> 01:08:06,060
So I'm going to see equal number of women as plumbers and as ditch diggers and as morticians

1513
01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:14,260
and as grave diggers and as corporate thieves and murderers and all those bad things.

1514
01:08:14,260 --> 01:08:18,080
Maybe when the patriarchy starts taking women in those positions seriously, they'll see

1515
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,080
more of them.

1516
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:24,100
Oh, I think that women who are serial killers get taken pretty seriously.

1517
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:29,780
But women teachers who sexually abuse their students do not get taken seriously.

1518
01:08:29,780 --> 01:08:36,660
The matriarchy is going to respectfully decline commentary on this topic.

1519
01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:37,660
I see.

1520
01:08:37,660 --> 01:08:42,700
They have to talk about it enough with their husband and they're sick of it.

1521
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:51,700
It sounds to me like the matriarchy and Mike might have a post episode conversation.

1522
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:57,380
I tell I see enough journey workers who are ladies.

1523
01:08:57,380 --> 01:09:02,340
I'm old enough to wear in the trades when I started it was journeymen.

1524
01:09:02,340 --> 01:09:05,540
Then I saw the transition to journey worker.

1525
01:09:05,540 --> 01:09:09,500
In my profession, like 3% of electricians are women or something like that.

1526
01:09:09,500 --> 01:09:10,500
It's like, really?

1527
01:09:10,500 --> 01:09:12,660
You had to change the word for 3%.

1528
01:09:12,660 --> 01:09:15,420
The matriarchy is going to throw your own words back at you.

1529
01:09:15,420 --> 01:09:22,100
There was an earlier episode of your show where you discussed why there are so few women

1530
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:26,980
in journey positions, especially as an electrician with an apprentice.

1531
01:09:26,980 --> 01:09:27,980
It's true.

1532
01:09:27,980 --> 01:09:28,980
I hope the answer isn't hazing.

1533
01:09:28,980 --> 01:09:30,860
Pretty sure the answer was hazing.

1534
01:09:30,860 --> 01:09:31,860
It's true.

1535
01:09:31,860 --> 01:09:32,860
It's true.

1536
01:09:32,860 --> 01:09:36,460
I have to take a little bit of a character for the Barbie movie because I'm not sure

1537
01:09:36,460 --> 01:09:41,980
if the listeners have picked up, but we have the matriarchy and the patriarchy on the line.

1538
01:09:41,980 --> 01:09:42,980
What am I, Mike?

1539
01:09:42,980 --> 01:09:43,980
Am I just Ken?

1540
01:09:43,980 --> 01:09:44,980
Am I beaching?

1541
01:09:44,980 --> 01:09:45,980
Am I beaching right now?

1542
01:09:45,980 --> 01:09:46,980
I think so.

1543
01:09:46,980 --> 01:09:47,980
Okay.

1544
01:09:47,980 --> 01:09:48,980
I think that you're...

1545
01:09:48,980 --> 01:09:53,220
Because I can go inside and sleep in my own bed next to my wife tonight.

1546
01:09:53,220 --> 01:09:58,100
We have a guest room downstairs though, Mike, which you've taken advantage of before.

1547
01:09:58,100 --> 01:09:59,100
Yes.

1548
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:00,100
So you're always welcome.

1549
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:04,020
I thought you were a Honda Civic that's a hybrid, Ken.

1550
01:10:04,020 --> 01:10:05,020
Yeah.

1551
01:10:05,020 --> 01:10:06,020
Yeah.

1552
01:10:06,020 --> 01:10:07,020
That keeps going.

1553
01:10:07,020 --> 01:10:09,740
I can't be kept down by anything.

1554
01:10:09,740 --> 01:10:11,220
Can a woman do my job?

1555
01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:12,780
Yes, they can.

1556
01:10:12,780 --> 01:10:16,500
And they do it and they get paid better than I do because all my bosses are women.

1557
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:23,100
So I guess that the Barbie matriarchy kind of struck a little too close to home for me

1558
01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:25,380
because I felt like I was just beaching.

1559
01:10:25,380 --> 01:10:30,540
I have a friend, you've met him and you know, you've met him too, who worked at a engineering

1560
01:10:30,540 --> 01:10:35,380
firm and they had a parody between the men and the women and the women were making like

1561
01:10:35,380 --> 01:10:38,460
15% less than the men at this company.

1562
01:10:38,460 --> 01:10:41,160
And they didn't look into the reasons why that was.

1563
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:46,700
They just automatically started every woman they hired at 7% higher than a male hire so

1564
01:10:46,700 --> 01:10:50,020
that it would equalize out after like 10 years.

1565
01:10:50,020 --> 01:10:52,780
And as it turns out, a lot of the women were taking a lot of time off and they weren't

1566
01:10:52,780 --> 01:10:55,980
advancing like in their careers much.

1567
01:10:55,980 --> 01:10:58,620
You know, when they first got hired, they were young and they were having children and

1568
01:10:58,620 --> 01:10:59,620
stuff.

1569
01:10:59,620 --> 01:11:02,140
So they were just giving the women 7% more.

1570
01:11:02,140 --> 01:11:07,700
And the fact that that is the answer and the fact that that was basically the ending of

1571
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:08,700
Barbie.

1572
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:13,100
Like, that's why I wanted more from the Barbie movie because they took down all of these

1573
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:19,420
like constructs, these social constructs and system constructs and corporate constructs.

1574
01:11:19,420 --> 01:11:25,200
But then they just kind of let it hang at the end instead of saying until Ken can also

1575
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:32,280
run for president, until Ken can also be a stay at home dad or until Ken can also do

1576
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,020
the same thing that us Barbies can do.

1577
01:11:35,020 --> 01:11:37,740
Barbie land is in turmoil or something.

1578
01:11:37,740 --> 01:11:38,740
Right.

1579
01:11:38,740 --> 01:11:40,700
And because they already had it inverted.

1580
01:11:40,700 --> 01:11:45,340
So all they had to do was have Barbie say what they wanted the patriarchy to say.

1581
01:11:45,340 --> 01:11:47,060
And that would have been a great ending.

1582
01:11:47,060 --> 01:11:49,260
You know, yeah, it could have been starting.

1583
01:11:49,260 --> 01:11:53,380
But the fact that we're even talking about like starting women or starting minorities

1584
01:11:53,380 --> 01:11:59,340
or diversity hires at higher rates than this, let's just call it like cisgender white men,

1585
01:11:59,340 --> 01:12:04,180
like at higher rates, because affirmative action just got struck down in colleges.

1586
01:12:04,180 --> 01:12:05,180
You know what I mean?

1587
01:12:05,180 --> 01:12:10,060
So if that's if that's not the answer, then that shouldn't even be a solution on the table.

1588
01:12:10,060 --> 01:12:12,340
We should figure out what will make everything equal.

1589
01:12:12,340 --> 01:12:14,420
Like what will make everything equal?

1590
01:12:14,420 --> 01:12:18,460
And you have a fantasy land and Barbie land and they could have they could have set forth

1591
01:12:18,460 --> 01:12:21,900
any solution, literally any solution at all.

1592
01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:26,700
I just feel like it was a little disingenuous for a film to take two hours or whatever it

1593
01:12:26,700 --> 01:12:29,020
was and tear down everything.

1594
01:12:29,020 --> 01:12:32,420
And then just kind of revert back to well, this is kind of how we've always done it here.

1595
01:12:32,420 --> 01:12:36,060
We're going to make a small consolation here with Ken, but otherwise it's still going to

1596
01:12:36,060 --> 01:12:37,060
be Barbie land.

1597
01:12:37,060 --> 01:12:38,060
We got our houses back.

1598
01:12:38,060 --> 01:12:39,700
The Kens can still live on the beach and that's fine.

1599
01:12:39,700 --> 01:12:40,700
We don't care.

1600
01:12:40,700 --> 01:12:43,020
And maybe they can take on some bigger roles in society.

1601
01:12:43,020 --> 01:12:45,420
But by and large, we don't care about the Kens.

1602
01:12:45,420 --> 01:12:47,580
So I was like, what the patriarchy did to women.

1603
01:12:47,580 --> 01:12:49,860
Pretty sure we talked about that earlier on.

1604
01:12:49,860 --> 01:12:50,860
Or I talked about it.

1605
01:12:50,860 --> 01:12:51,860
Nobody listens.

1606
01:12:51,860 --> 01:12:52,860
I was listening.

1607
01:12:52,860 --> 01:12:53,860
I was just, we got to stick.

1608
01:12:53,860 --> 01:12:54,860
We got to stick.

1609
01:12:54,860 --> 01:12:55,860
You just killed it.

1610
01:12:55,860 --> 01:12:56,860
I know.

1611
01:12:56,860 --> 01:13:00,900
I'm breaking the fourth wall.

1612
01:13:00,900 --> 01:13:03,660
I think we're on like the fifth or sixth wall at this point.

1613
01:13:03,660 --> 01:13:07,260
I don't even know anymore.

1614
01:13:07,260 --> 01:13:10,940
We found ourselves in Christopher Nolan's tenant and I don't know which way we're going

1615
01:13:10,940 --> 01:13:15,740
in time at what's happening other than if you haven't seen Barbie, go see it.

1616
01:13:15,740 --> 01:13:19,020
If you haven't smoked a Hoya Black, go smoke one.

1617
01:13:19,020 --> 01:13:22,500
Unless you don't like really strong, spicy, awesome cigars.

1618
01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:25,300
FYI, the Barbie movie was written by a man.

1619
01:13:25,300 --> 01:13:27,620
In conjunction with a woman.

1620
01:13:27,620 --> 01:13:34,740
A woman who got onto the project like six years after the start.

1621
01:13:34,740 --> 01:13:36,460
I did a lot of research on the movie.

1622
01:13:36,460 --> 01:13:38,420
I was like, what is going on with this?

1623
01:13:38,420 --> 01:13:39,780
The main writer was a man.

1624
01:13:39,780 --> 01:13:40,780
The director was a woman.

1625
01:13:40,780 --> 01:13:41,780
She did a really good job.

1626
01:13:41,780 --> 01:13:42,780
She did a really good job.

1627
01:13:42,780 --> 01:13:43,780
Yeah.

1628
01:13:43,780 --> 01:13:44,780
The casting was great too.

1629
01:13:44,780 --> 01:13:45,780
Yeah.

1630
01:13:45,780 --> 01:13:46,780
Greta Gerwig is a really good director.

1631
01:13:46,780 --> 01:13:47,780
Oh, she did a great job.

1632
01:13:47,780 --> 01:13:51,380
I mean, it should have been a little sharper in parts, I think, but whatever.

1633
01:13:51,380 --> 01:13:54,460
And I almost wonder like how much of that might have been Mattel.

1634
01:13:54,460 --> 01:13:55,460
You know, how much?

1635
01:13:55,460 --> 01:13:56,460
Possibly.

1636
01:13:56,460 --> 01:13:58,420
Yeah, thank you for bringing us into yourbecause we're really kind of grety.

1637
01:13:58,420 --> 01:13:59,500
Interesting scene when Jon comes to us.

1638
01:13:59,500 --> 01:14:00,780
I want you to 6 30 begin.

1639
01:14:00,780 --> 01:14:06,020
Maybe you could switch a couple of frames for us and we'll show you how that goes?

1640
01:14:06,020 --> 01:14:07,020
What's the scene?

1641
01:14:07,020 --> 01:14:08,020
Right?

1642
01:14:08,020 --> 01:14:10,180
I have to turn it, turn it off as soon as we get to the film.

1643
01:14:10,180 --> 01:14:11,180
Okay.

1644
01:14:11,180 --> 01:14:13,540
There's a chick coming out to meet us, right?

1645
01:14:13,540 --> 01:14:17,700
weeks here. That was my second time ever seeing Waterworld. And I remember enjoying the first

1646
01:14:17,700 --> 01:14:22,580
time, fine, it was the theatrical version. And my sir was like, holy cow, this version is so great.

1647
01:14:22,580 --> 01:14:27,300
It's awesome. It explains like everything, like it's not trimmed down and all that stuff. But

1648
01:14:27,300 --> 01:14:31,780
movies nowadays, no matter what stance they take, they always almost have to kind of like back them

1649
01:14:31,780 --> 01:14:37,380
back out and kind of like undo everything they've done to let the viewer like assure the viewer that

1650
01:14:37,380 --> 01:14:44,660
it's pure fantasy. And in Waterworld, Dennis Hopper, I'm blanking right now. Kevin Costner,

1651
01:14:46,020 --> 01:14:52,820
the main guy. The main character. Comes onto his barge and he's like persisting, persisting,

1652
01:14:52,820 --> 01:14:56,660
persisting. Dennis Hopper's like, okay, well, I thought he was a little crazy at the beginning,

1653
01:14:56,660 --> 01:15:00,820
but now I see he's just plain retarded or something. That's a line of dialogue you just

1654
01:15:00,820 --> 01:15:06,900
will never get in any modern film. No. But they're not walking it back, you know? So if you're taking,

1655
01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:11,700
I feel like, you know, to your point, but I don't know, Mattel did finance it. So maybe Mattel said,

1656
01:15:11,700 --> 01:15:16,020
well, we can't have this like be realistic. So the real life stuff has to be fantasy and the fantasy

1657
01:15:16,020 --> 01:15:20,580
stuff has to be extra fantasy. And we can't really like, despite all the stuff you say, like you have

1658
01:15:20,580 --> 01:15:24,500
to go back and say, well, the fantasy at the beginning was the best fantasy of all the fantasy

1659
01:15:24,500 --> 01:15:29,140
we showed you, despite the fact that the fantasy in the real world closely mirrored like what's

1660
01:15:29,140 --> 01:15:32,580
actually happening. But we don't want people to think too seriously about that. We just, it's a

1661
01:15:32,580 --> 01:15:36,900
Barbie movie. We want to sell Barbies. I don't, you know, like, I don't know. Like who knows? Maybe they

1662
01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:41,140
felt if they gave you the ending you're talking about, they would be disappointed that they went

1663
01:15:41,140 --> 01:15:46,820
from a society that was completely one way and magically after 24 hours in this one adventure by

1664
01:15:46,820 --> 01:15:51,380
one Barbie and Ken, society completely turned around and it was entirely equal because it's not

1665
01:15:51,380 --> 01:15:58,260
realistic. One Barbie can change the world. It's going to take a Barbie. I mean, and one, and one

1666
01:15:58,260 --> 01:16:02,980
can can fuck it up. Right. I mean, I don't know if you saw the Lauren Borbert tape, but that, you

1667
01:16:02,980 --> 01:16:13,300
know, inspired me. Lauren, is she the new Budweiser spokesperson? No, no, no. She's a no. Did you hear

1668
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:18,340
about the Lauren Borbert stuff? Are you talking to me or you're no, you, you dispute later? No,

1669
01:16:19,460 --> 01:16:25,700
no, you, Nate, civil, civil domestic conversation later. No, I haven't.

1670
01:16:25,700 --> 01:16:33,460
So Lauren Burbert is a right wing Christian conservative congresswoman from her already.

1671
01:16:33,460 --> 01:16:40,900
Yes. And so there were rumors previously that she was a prostitute before she got married and she

1672
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:46,020
was on a high end escort site, but she of course blanketly denied. So now she's the one that had

1673
01:16:46,020 --> 01:16:50,580
all the stuff leaked, right? Yeah. No, that, that one, she's running for Congress and she's a Democrat.

1674
01:16:50,580 --> 01:16:55,540
The Lauren Burberts already in Congress. Oh, so she's in the middle of only like left wing

1675
01:16:55,540 --> 01:17:01,060
pun tang or are they like nuts over right wing? I don't know how it is. Well, Lauren Borbert is a

1676
01:17:01,060 --> 01:17:06,100
hardcore right winger, but anyway, she's in the middle of a divorce. So she goes to the theater

1677
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:11,460
with her boyfriend, who also happens to be a bar owner. And the story that got reported was that

1678
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:17,540
she was drunk out of her mind. She was smoking in the theater and she gave her boyfriend a hand job

1679
01:17:17,540 --> 01:17:23,220
in the theater. Yes, I remember that. And she denied it. And then the theater who filed a report

1680
01:17:23,220 --> 01:17:29,460
on her, she leaked the videotape of her doing exactly what they said she was doing. And she was

1681
01:17:29,460 --> 01:17:34,260
wearing the outfit of a prostitute. I mean, I'm not saying she was a prostitute, but she does not

1682
01:17:34,260 --> 01:17:39,780
dress like a right wing conservative Congresswoman. All right. She looked like the girlfriend of a

1683
01:17:39,780 --> 01:17:44,020
sleazy bar owner who was going to the movie theater and giving hand jobs and smoking and being drunk.

1684
01:17:46,740 --> 01:17:52,020
I saw that where it was like, uh, somebody, somebody like posted that in a comparison video

1685
01:17:52,020 --> 01:17:58,900
of like, I don't know, here's the video of like a UFO or Bigfoot. And then here's a video of a, uh,

1686
01:17:59,460 --> 01:18:03,860
person in government giving a handy in a movie theater. And it's like, you can very clearly see,

1687
01:18:03,860 --> 01:18:07,380
yeah. Oh, uh, you know, like all the police, like, have you seen this person? And it's like

1688
01:18:07,380 --> 01:18:12,820
pixelated beyond imagination. And it's like, even if it was a picture of myself, I'd be like, who is

1689
01:18:12,820 --> 01:18:20,660
that? Yep. In some like Colorado movie theater, they've got a video then you can clearly see

1690
01:18:20,660 --> 01:18:25,460
what's going on. Clear as day, clear as day. You can see what's going on. The best, like I said,

1691
01:18:25,460 --> 01:18:29,380
the best part is she denied it. And it's like, what are you thinking? Who cares?

1692
01:18:32,980 --> 01:18:40,580
Yeah. Like who, I mean, honestly, like who cares? Everybody's all spun up about pronouns and sexual

1693
01:18:40,580 --> 01:18:44,980
identities and stuff. And so what if you gave a hand job to your boyfriend? That's, that's what

1694
01:18:44,980 --> 01:18:49,940
you're supposed to do. And he's supposed to, you know, work it as well for you, you know, like

1695
01:18:49,940 --> 01:18:54,500
that's not a big deal. Right. You're both adults consenting adults. That should be enough. It

1696
01:18:54,500 --> 01:18:59,700
shouldn't be a story. I'm not trying to defend her. Well, it's only a story because she's such a,

1697
01:19:00,980 --> 01:19:05,860
well, she's so high profile and she denied it. She denied it. And she's supposed to be right wing

1698
01:19:05,860 --> 01:19:11,940
Christian conservative lady. It's like, okay. I thought there was a thing in the, in the new

1699
01:19:11,940 --> 01:19:18,980
Testament where, uh, how was it? Was it Peter or, um, I think it was, was it Judas? One of them was

1700
01:19:18,980 --> 01:19:23,060
kissing Jesus or something, right? In the garden, they were like on a man date or something, like a

1701
01:19:23,060 --> 01:19:27,380
bro date and they're like kissing each other. And then the guards come in and break it up. And then

1702
01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:32,740
all of a sudden, like Jesus is dead on a cross or something, but like, it doesn't get more religious

1703
01:19:32,740 --> 01:19:37,940
than that. Like do what makes you happy, man. Like Roman guards be damned. Well, I know in Romans

1704
01:19:37,940 --> 01:19:43,700
too, it said that when Vought is getting a divorce, you shout, go to the, go to the movie theater with

1705
01:19:43,700 --> 01:19:50,180
your boyfriend and give them a hand job in front of a camera. Well, yeah. And it says, uh, any man

1706
01:19:50,180 --> 01:19:55,620
who lives with another man must be stoned. So of course it's 420 friendly. I mean, come on.

1707
01:19:55,620 --> 01:19:57,940
Obviously it's not explicitly forbidden.

1708
01:20:00,660 --> 01:20:03,460
I think the matriarchy should have gotten stoned before we did this.

1709
01:20:06,340 --> 01:20:11,220
So anyway, I think this is spawning a spin-off series. It's going to be Mike versus the matriarchy.

1710
01:20:11,220 --> 01:20:15,380
I'm not going to participate in that. So you're going to have to follow up with Mike when those

1711
01:20:15,380 --> 01:20:20,260
episodes are going to drop. Yep. We had to break K-Fave eventually.

1712
01:20:22,260 --> 01:20:25,540
So it'll be kind of like Scott Pilgrim versus the world, but Mike versus the matriarchy.

1713
01:20:25,540 --> 01:20:30,660
Hells yeah. Hells yeah. Take bets at the beginning of each episode. Is Mike sleeping on the couch

1714
01:20:30,660 --> 01:20:35,060
at the end of this or is he not? Yeah. Is it couch, recliner or bed?

1715
01:20:35,060 --> 01:20:46,500
There's a food dog. No, I sleep with the dog. Yes, I can. Yes, I can. There you go. I'm about done

1716
01:20:46,500 --> 01:20:51,940
with my cigar. I think we've talked about Barbie. I don't know if it made anyone listening more

1717
01:20:51,940 --> 01:20:57,300
interested or less interested in watching it. I still think it's worth a watch. I don't think

1718
01:20:57,300 --> 01:21:04,420
it's going on my top favorite films list anytime soon, but if I had to pick a clear winner between

1719
01:21:04,420 --> 01:21:10,420
Oppenheimer and Barbie, I'd say Barbie. I haven't seen Oppenheimer, but I have seen a lot of

1720
01:21:11,220 --> 01:21:14,820
television shows and movies that have been produced in the last couple of years.

1721
01:21:14,820 --> 01:21:20,740
And it's easily better than Obi-Wan, right? It's easily better than a lot of the movies that have

1722
01:21:20,740 --> 01:21:26,180
come out. You know what I mean? Like it's better than Avatar 2, Free Willy or whatever.

1723
01:21:27,140 --> 01:21:32,580
Mike is going to cry. He loved Avatar 2. I watched it in the theater too. That helps

1724
01:21:32,580 --> 01:21:37,460
because the big screen and like, yeah, I didn't love it for this story. Mike didn't love it for

1725
01:21:37,460 --> 01:21:43,300
this story. That's true. I loved it for the alien titties. I'm sorry. The alien headlights.

1726
01:21:46,340 --> 01:21:52,660
The alien bright, clear, newly installed headlights. That's right. No touched up with CGI.

1727
01:21:54,740 --> 01:22:01,700
Why is this animated? They said this was live action. I can't get a boner over a cartoon

1728
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:07,700
character. I'm not a black pilled in cell. I think the anime category on Pornhub would

1729
01:22:07,700 --> 01:22:15,380
beg to differ. Never been. So that's an interesting subreddit for the matriarchy to be visiting.

1730
01:22:17,060 --> 01:22:19,940
But no judgment here because I'm just a Ken who likes to beach.

1731
01:22:22,580 --> 01:22:28,500
I'm just a Ken who likes to have a truck that has a bumper and a recorder panel.

1732
01:22:28,500 --> 01:22:34,980
Let's just fight me Ken. The other thing I didn't like real quick about Barbie was

1733
01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:39,700
they made of all movies, of all of the movies that they could have tried to drag through the mud.

1734
01:22:40,260 --> 01:22:46,020
Why was it the Godfather of all things? Like they could have easily done Fast and Furious.

1735
01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:53,460
They had to do Godfather because men really like the Godfather. And I think, well, these are high

1736
01:22:53,460 --> 01:22:58,020
falutin people that wrote this story and made it. Like these are elites that made this movie.

1737
01:22:58,020 --> 01:23:02,980
They're not nobodies. So they're going to have to do, they probably didn't even have Fast and

1738
01:23:02,980 --> 01:23:08,020
Furious in the radar. You know what I mean? Yeah. I just think with how dumb they made the Kens,

1739
01:23:08,020 --> 01:23:11,780
and I'm not, I don't have a problem with that, with how dumb they made the Kens. I don't know

1740
01:23:11,780 --> 01:23:17,300
that the Kens would have understood the Godfather. You know what I mean? And of course they're like,

1741
01:23:17,300 --> 01:23:20,980
yeah, this man's going to talk through the Godfather. Like, Hey, what's this movie?

1742
01:23:20,980 --> 01:23:24,420
What's the movie you want to listen to? Well, you're slobbing on my balls. You know, like

1743
01:23:24,420 --> 01:23:29,700
that kind of like man's planning through a movie, but you know, it could have been like

1744
01:23:30,180 --> 01:23:34,660
the narration could have been, and all the Kens decided to pick this movie that they knew they

1745
01:23:34,660 --> 01:23:39,380
should like, but had no idea why. And then explained it to the Barbies, you know, and that would have

1746
01:23:39,380 --> 01:23:43,780
fit the bill of like how the Kens were portrayed a little bit better. And also let the Godfather

1747
01:23:43,780 --> 01:23:48,100
stand as a classic film and not be dragged through the mud. Well, it's like part of the

1748
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:51,700
zeitgeist. Not that you have to like the Godfather. No, but it's part of the zeitgeist now. You got to

1749
01:23:51,700 --> 01:23:56,420
destroy all the things in the past that were good, you know? Well, now if they had done that and had

1750
01:23:56,420 --> 01:24:01,940
the Kens explaining the movie to the Barbies, would that be mansplaining or Kensplaining?

1751
01:24:01,940 --> 01:24:08,420
That's a good point. Would Kensplaining mansplaining to the matriarchy, oh, was it matriarchy?

1752
01:24:08,420 --> 01:24:13,780
Women's splaining to the man's trying to splain the Kensplaining, the man matriarchy,

1753
01:24:13,780 --> 01:24:19,300
matriarchy, splaining movie to the, now I'm back to Christopher Nolan's Tenet. I have no idea what's

1754
01:24:19,300 --> 01:24:28,500
going on. I like money. I like money and sex. A lot of this generation hasn't seen the Godfather.

1755
01:24:28,500 --> 01:24:31,940
Let's just fucking go with that because nobody's going to sit down and watch that kind of movie.

1756
01:24:31,940 --> 01:24:37,220
It's slow. It takes forever to go. I've only seen the Godfather once in full disclosure and I've

1757
01:24:37,220 --> 01:24:41,460
never seen the sequels. I've seen them all. I would like to watch them. I've seen them all.

1758
01:24:41,460 --> 01:24:45,940
Apparently the matriarchy has not watched the Godfather and does not want to either.

1759
01:24:45,940 --> 01:24:52,180
I didn't say that. I mean, that's fair. My Sarah enjoyed, except for the last season,

1760
01:24:52,180 --> 01:24:58,740
enjoyed Boardwalk Empire, which is kind of the gangster. I heard that was a fantastic show.

1761
01:24:58,740 --> 01:25:01,540
Everything was great except for the last season because they thought they were going to get

1762
01:25:01,540 --> 01:25:06,260
canceled and they, or they got canceled before they could finish the storyline. So they jumped

1763
01:25:06,260 --> 01:25:12,260
ahead like 10 years in like film time, I guess, and didn't really explain why a lot of the

1764
01:25:12,260 --> 01:25:18,820
characters that we had come to love were now dead or gone. Like, you know, like you just infer like,

1765
01:25:18,820 --> 01:25:22,660
so kind of took the wind out of the sails of the last season just because they weren't given the

1766
01:25:22,660 --> 01:25:28,660
time to do it. Sure. Was that because of Jesse Smollett? No, this was well before that. Oh, okay.

1767
01:25:29,220 --> 01:25:34,580
I believe. I don't know. Everything now seems like it was either yesterday or 27 years ago. So I have

1768
01:25:34,580 --> 01:25:40,180
no idea. Yeah, I get some of that. I get some of that. So anyway, we are done with our cigars. Oh,

1769
01:25:40,180 --> 01:25:44,660
I'm not. I still have a little bit left, but Nate is done. I have a little bit left, but I think we're

1770
01:25:44,660 --> 01:25:53,060
done with the Barbie and being Matriarchy Splane 2. So let's just fucking call it, dude. Let's call it.

1771
01:25:54,740 --> 01:26:01,300
It's a long one. Have you been listening to Nice Ashes? And we took on the pink realm of Barbie,

1772
01:26:01,300 --> 01:26:05,540
which we think you should see. I think that's across the board. It should be a film to add

1773
01:26:05,540 --> 01:26:14,420
to your watch list. Absolutely. Be safe. Have fun. Thanks for listening.