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Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Mike.

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And I'm Nate.

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Are you talking Mike?

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Because I can't hear you.

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No, I am not.

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I was waiting for you to ask me what we were smoking today.

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Oh, okay.

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Well, I asked you last time.

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Or did you ask me last time?

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I asked you.

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Yeah.

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Sorry.

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The second guy asked the first guy what we're smoking.

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That's the dealio here.

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That's the dealio here.

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Okay.

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This is all new to me.

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This is our 30th episode of season two.

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And what are we smoking for episode 30, Mike?

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We are smoking the H. Upman, the Banker, which mine, the cigar itself has a lot of veins

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and it's a little rough looking.

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I'm not a big fan, but the wrapper looks really good.

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I mean, the wrapper, the actual packaging looks good.

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It's just the cigars looking a little rough.

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It might've been my humidor that did it.

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I don't know.

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Nate's look fine, right?

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Yeah.

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Well, yeah.

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I mean, it's a little, where you light it at the end, the tip is kind of squished, but

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it doesn't look any more rough than any of the other cigars.

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I guess they're, maybe it's just the leaf that they did for the wrapper on yours.

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I don't know.

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Or the case.

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Yeah.

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It looks a little rugged, if you know what I mean.

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Like it's not, yeah.

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I didn't look at this and think it was an oversized shrew, if that's what you're getting

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at.

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I'm getting shrew level veins on mine.

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Not like, that's a little exaggerated, but I mean, the band looks good, but not that

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that affects how it tastes, but it all matters.

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Now, are you burning the foot on these cigars before you light them?

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What does that mean?

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So I don't always do it, but lately I've been taking my lighter and burning the end and

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heating it up and getting it on fire a little bit before I draw through it.

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It kind of makes that lighting process where I'm actually sucking air through it faster.

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It almost makes it more even when you first start it.

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I don't know if I've been fully doing it, but I've been doing kind of like a variation

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of that where I'll light and inhale through and then I'll kind of like not inhale through

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and kind of torch the end a bit and then inhale and torch.

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Sure.

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I don't think it really makes a difference, but you know.

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No, I mean, you know, I know when we were in episode one, I had a buddy over and we

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were several episodes into our first season and he was like giving me shit because my

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cigars weren't burning evenly.

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And he's like, well, you're not doing this and doing that.

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But I think for all the cigars I've been smoking this up this season, the burns have been even.

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So whatever whatever I'm doing appears to be fine.

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So right.

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I haven't had any major issues.

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Yeah, I guess.

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And I'm pairing this with a founders Centennial IPA.

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Oh, nice.

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I'm drinking water again.

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Water is life, man.

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Water is life.

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Water is life.

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I had a lot of coffee yesterday, so I'm like watering it up.

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Yep.

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Gotta replenish the fluids.

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It's related to our topic today, but I went to the Little Falls Craft Fair, which is a

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hundred thousand people go to apparently.

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And it was the fiftieth anniversary this year.

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And we walked five and a half miles at the Little Falls Craft Fair.

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Walking around and seeing the various vendors.

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But they have a roaster called Reality Roasters in Little Falls and they have wonderful coffee.

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And of course, they don't normally serve coffee.

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You can only buy the beans.

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But during the Little Falls Craft Fair, they make coffee.

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So I was drinking coffee all day there.

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Nice.

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Yes.

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Nice, nice.

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Well, our topic for this episode going to be a little more free form, but we thought

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it would be fun to talk about bookstores and maybe favorite bookstores or anywhere.

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Anytime I'm in a new town or something, or even if the town I'm in and a new bookstore

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pops up, I kind of always want to go like I just love bookstores.

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Really not a huge fan of bookstores where they want you to pay the full price on the

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back of the thing.

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So I tend to gravitate more towards the used bookstores or the secondhand bookstores.

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But that'll come up more later, I'm sure in the episode.

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As do I.

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I'm a big fan of the small town used bookstore.

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Yes.

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So we went to, we did kind of a, we were going up to meet Sarah's parents at the halfway

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point and we decided to take kind of a meandering route through Buffalo, Minnesota.

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And they've got a bookstore there and they've got a ton of antique stores too.

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But the bookstore is fairly small.

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They've got a little like cafe, coffee shop type of thing in the back.

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And I generally gravitate towards like the sci-fi sections because there's always like

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weird oddities of sci-fi authors you can find or the, I've had pretty good luck with the

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little short story sci-fi compendiums or whatever they are.

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You know, cause you get to try a bunch of different styles of different writers and

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the short story.

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They have to, you have to be a good writer to do a short story, I guess, I think, right?

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Like to make it compelling enough to remember because it's so short.

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Yeah, I think so.

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And then I do like the nonfiction stuff.

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Like I like checking out different biographies of people.

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And there's a website called, I don't remember exactly what it is, but it's like best presidential

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biographies.

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And this guy or whomever runs it has read biographies on all of the presidents and he

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will rank them, which one is best.

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And he'll do like which one he thinks gives the best overall picture, which one's written

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the best, which one is the most interesting, even if it doesn't cover the entirety of the

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president's life.

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And he'll give you all that kind of feedback.

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So that's been really phenomenal for me to kind of somebody's already done the stuff.

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So I don't, there's nothing worse than picking up like a nonfiction book about a topic you're

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interested in and having it being like boring as hell.

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One thing that I found lately is that there will be on a topic that's interesting, but

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then the style of the writing will be poppy and 21st century like, and they'll have jokes

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like it's a Marvel movie instead of a book about a serious historical topic.

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I, that reminds me there was one.

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I read one.

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Let me pull it up here because I didn't like it at all.

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It was, I didn't like it.

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We'll just say that.

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So it was called Indian givers and it's how the Indians of the Americas transformed the

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world by Jack Weatherford and people seem to like it.

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You know, it's got like an average of four and I gave it a two and because the first

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like four chapters were how, well, he was trying to make that the native Americans who

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were forced into slavery and mining precious metals out of South American mountains were

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somehow contributing.

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I mean, not like contributing, like of course they were contributing, but like it was their

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idea to do it, right?

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It's called Indian givers, not Indian exploitation.

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You know what I mean?

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So that kind of didn't sit well with me.

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And he had a couple of chapters about, you know, there were no tomatoes or potatoes or

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corn, corn, maize, anywhere else in the world.

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And so all of these different vegetables and produce things like took off.

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And can you imagine like the food in Italy without tomatoes?

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You know what I mean?

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So, right.

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And there were no potatoes in Russia.

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So thank you, vodka, I guess.

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So I mean, that stuff was neat, but then like, so he did a couple of chapters on how bad

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the colonizers were.

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And then he did a couple of chapters on like vegetables.

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And then he started doing like, well, I drove down into this area and it started being like

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anecdotal stories of his like research.

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And I'm like, this is no dude, like, no, I'm not reading this book to find out what you

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did to do your research.

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You know?

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That's crazy.

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Well, it's crazy that people liked it.

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That's the weird part.

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You know, I mean, maybe people like it because he's not like the stuffy historian, but he's

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not a terribly interesting fellow in my opinion from how he wrote his books.

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So, so there's that.

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And then I read there's one like the 1918 great influenza.

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It's all about the great influenza of 1918.

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And it was interesting because they kind of did masks and stuff and they were trying to

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do stuff because I think that was right when they started discovering that like germs were

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a thing, you know, and it was moderately interesting, but it was written.

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It wasn't written in a way that resonates with me.

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I'm not going to say it wasn't well written.

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I'm just saying it wasn't a writing style that I, that resonated with me.

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So it was very, very tough.

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It was a slog to get through.

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But then I read, I read one called cattle kingdom, all about cattle industry in America

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and how they would ship them up to the Chicago slaughterhouses and all this stuff because

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they didn't have refrigerated cars.

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And that one was like very fascinating and I loved how it was written.

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It was, it was like a, there's a page turner, you know, like all about the cattle and cattle

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industry.

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So it kind of goes to show that the writing style maybe is sometimes more important than

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the subject matter.

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Well, and sometimes, so I'm looking at my list here.

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I just finished American witches and before that I completed Napoleon's hemorrhoids and

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Napoleon's hemorrhoids is like fun little short stories about historical oddities.

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And you expect that to be funny and poppy, right?

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And it was funny and poppy and it was interesting.

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It was like the story behind the guy that invented bingo and he didn't really invent

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it, but he found a carnival game and he popularized it, you know, and all these fun little things.

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But American witches was supposed to be about the history of like witch burning in the United

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States.

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And the tone was not great.

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It was like, Oh, funny.

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Ha ha ha.

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Like pop, pop, pop.

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This is going to be cool.

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And blah, blah, blah.

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It's like, no, we're talking about witch trials.

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People are burning on a stake.

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Exactly.

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It's like she's trying to make little jokes about how dumb the colonists were or whatever.

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It's like, this is not a topic.

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The information was good.

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And it got better as it went on and it got more towards the modern era because you can

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make fun of people who believe in the Blair Witch.

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Right.

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And you get to interview with the mayor of the town that the Blair Witch Project was

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set in and all this stuff.

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But yeah, you don't need to be making funny jokes about women that were burned alive trying

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to cross to the new world on a ship.

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You know what I mean?

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So the tone, like the same tone, but you don't expect it some places and you do others, you

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The thing is, I enjoy humor a lot, but there's, you know, time and a place.

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And if it's all humor all the time, it's hard to get any kind of serious thoughts across.

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Right.

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Hell, yeah.

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Like a lot of people like to talk all the time and they don't have much to say.

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And so when the quiet person talks, it has a little more, you know, resonates deeper

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because it's somebody who doesn't really talk a whole lot.

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So it must be important if they're breaking their silence.

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Absolutely.

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I'm the one that talks all the time.

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So I don't know.

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I feel like I get pretty chatty of these, but you know, we are stimulating ourselves.

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So right.

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Exactly.

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Or chatty Kathy's.

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So, yeah.

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So I don't know.

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Do you want to talk about like favorite bookstores or I've been to quite a few of the bookstores

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here in the Twin Cities area?

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Yes.

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Well, you've you want to you want to start there?

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Do you want to?

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You're more of a bookstore guy than I am because I grew up in northern Minnesota, as everybody

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knows.

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Yeah.

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And every hack tourist town has a bookstore and they're the only good stores usually in

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the entire town.

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And they're usually some of them are gifts or they're like novelty shop slash bookstores

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and they have new books and they're really more of a knickknack shop than a bookstore.

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And some of those you can find cool stuff there.

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Sometimes, sometimes we were down in southeastern Minnesota and I can't remember the town or

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the bookstore name, but we happened to stop at it and it was basically just a toy store.

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But they had a room, probably a 10 by 10 room on nothing but rubber ducks and the rubber

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ducks were all themed.

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And you know, you could get the fireman rubber duck or the golfer rubber duck.

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And of course, I bought a bowling rubber duck.

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BDSM rubber duck.

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They might have had that.

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They might have had the lipstick lesbian duck.

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I think they actually did have a lipstick lesbian because the store was like not necessarily

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entirely for children.

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You know, I had like stuff for adults in it too.

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Like they had board games of one half of the store and they had like Catan and more adult

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board games and they had the little kitty board games too.

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Yeah.

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So some of those some of those stores are kind of like the quasi head shops.

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I mean now that weed's legal here.

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Like you could just call it what it is.

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But sometimes you go into these stores and they have like the books and then there would

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be like all the glass pipes and things and you're like, okay.

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And then they have like aisles and aisles and aisles of incense, but they were still

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like a bookstore.

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So, oh yeah, that was more so with music.

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But yeah, I was gonna say the record stores.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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These like, I don't know, tourist trap bookstores, right?

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So the bookstore in Buffalo, it had that cafe in the back and it had a it was probably

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you know, again, the size of my garage, like a one car garage and, you know, like a regular

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like the one bay thing in a strip mall kind of thing, right?

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Like on Main Street, like you go in, they've got the one sometimes they get a bigger store

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and they got the two bays, the two storefronts.

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This is like a one storefront kind of thing.

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And they had a really small like sci fi section.

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And that's kind of what I judge most stores on is, you know, I guess the variety of like

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genres.

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Like if you're in sci fi or if you're in fiction, kind of like how many Kurt Vonnegut books

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do you have?

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How many Neil Gaiman books do you have?

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You know, how many Tolkien books do you have?

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If any, you know, of all of those.

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So I feel like those kind of like tourist trap shops are kind of like the airport bookstores

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where it's got all like the the the Oprah's Club Readers Digest top New York Times, whatever

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top 10 books.

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And it's these these usually it's these women and they'll go and they'll buy a book and

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go, oh, I wanted to read this one because Reese Witherspoon told me about it.

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And then they're the ones that sit on the beach and read this book that you could tell

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is like brand new.

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And it's mostly a fluffy book.

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Right.

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And I don't want to like if that's your kind of book that you like to read, that's awesome.

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I'm not trying to downplay that.

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But that's not the kind of bookstores that I like.

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You know, I don't mind that bookstores have those books because people like those books.

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But it's kind of like the the traveling middle aged woman trying to be hip has a book, you

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know, and reads it on the beach for her Instagram.

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Yeah, they're selling back in the day.

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It was Anne Rice novels that have the Anne Rice novels and whatever the latest Stephen

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King was and then the Oprah bestseller.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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So so those are not really my favorite.

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So the Buffalo Book bookstore, you can skip on that one.

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Skip that one.

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You know, and then so one of my favorite bookstores in the Twin Cities is Uncle Hugo's.

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It's Uncle Hugo and Uncle Edgar.

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So it's Uncle Hugo's sci fi and Uncle Edgar's mystery.

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So they only do science fiction and mystery books.

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Well, their building got burned down and flooded in the George Floyd riots.

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And they recently reopened in a bigger space.

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I really like that because they it's not full price.

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They're kind of like they're kind of like used books.

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I think they have some new books, too.

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But they've got a good chunk of used books.

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And like the guy who runs it knows his stuff like he puts out a newsletter, not very frequently.

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But you know, like when he talks about things, you definitely know he knows what he's talking

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about, at least in terms of books and authors and and things and stuff like that.

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So that's one of my favorite books, bookstores local to me.

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And then right across the street is this new bookstore.

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I think it's newer and it's called Moon Palace Books.

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And one of our friends said that Moon Palace Books was their favorite bookstore in the

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Twin Cities.

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And I was like, man, I've never been there.

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So I went there just this weekend to go check it out.

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And I went into the entryway, you know, and so at least here in Minnesota, I'm sure other

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places do this, too.

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You've got the exterior door, then you're in a little like vestibule, Jill Goodacre.

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And then there's another door to get into the actual store, right?

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Yeah, that's like a mud room.

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Yeah.

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And a vapor barrier, a weather barrier, really.

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Yeah, it's the cold, the winter cold barrier, snow barrier.

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And I on the exterior door said masks required for everybody vaccinated or not.

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And I was like, OK, maybe they didn't take this down yet.

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And I got into the vestibule and there's a big box of masks, then another sign that said

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masks required for everybody.

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And I still didn't quite believe it.

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And so I peeked into the windows and like, sure enough, everybody in there has a mask

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on.

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So I'm like, well, I guess I guess like I'm here to check this place out.

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So I guess I'll put the mask on.

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So I put the mask on and go in.

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And it's like, man, they had like such a small section of everything.

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Like every section was small.

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They did have a used book section, but it was small.

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They had a fairly decent sized kids book section.

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They had, I think, four Neil Gaiman books.

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They had three Frank Herbert books, you know, Dune, Dune Messiah, and I think Children of

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Dune.

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They had maybe four Kurt Vonnegut books.

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They had a whole shelf, top to bottom, dedicated to like George Floyd literature, books and

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things.

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And every book was full price on the back.

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So I guess like if you only want to shop where they agree with your social justice kind of

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ideals, then it would be a good place to shop.

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But as a bookstore, I have to give it like, I'd rather go to Barnes and Noble, because

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at least they have a bigger selection if I'm paying full price for books, which I have

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a question, Nate.

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Yes.

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How can there be a full bookshelf of books about George Floyd?

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How is that possible?

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You know, nobody likes capitalizing on tragedy like social justice warriors, I guess.

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I don't know if they were all George Floyd books, but the you know how bookstores will

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do the usually it spines out and then maybe they take like one shelf and do covers out.

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So they had apparently found five or six books about George Floyd.

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That's crazy that they had facing out.

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So I just I say it's a full rack of George Floyd books.

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I'm sure it's a full rack of social justice warrior books.

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Right.

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I'm guessing that they're like you said, they're capitalizing on the George Floyd incident

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and they're not really writing about George Floyd.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's kind of well, it's the way the world works.

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It's probably like George Floyd and other instances of social injustice.

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Right.

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Yeah, that I probably would enjoy reading one of them.

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One of them is probably.

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Yeah, pick pick one that has the best reviews and get that a try.

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Right.

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Yeah, so I was a little underwhelmed and I was a little like masks required for everybody

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still.

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Mm hmm.

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Dude, that's coming down the pipeline.

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Yeah, there's growing evidence that they're going to try to push masks and lockdowns again

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this year.

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I don't know why.

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Well, you know, I think that certain people made a lot of money on that.

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I mean, I know why, but I don't know how they could possibly justify it.

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Either do I, but they will.

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Because you know, like we get this could be a topic for a different episode because I'm

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sure you finished the book and I'm still reading the book that that we're talking about.

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Mike and I know what we're talking about.

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I hope Mike.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I'm going to do it again before.

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Just tell me when you're halfway or something.

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Yeah.

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I'll do it again so I can read it again.

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But like as soon as they as soon as the vaccine came out and was available for everybody to

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go get for free, I was pretty much done.

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I was done wearing a mask.

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I was like, I'm not doing it.

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Like I'm vaccinated.

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Like, fuck you guys, you know, and whatever the science of the vaccine and all that stuff,

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like that's not the point.

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The point is like once people could feel safe about the thing, you know, about COVID, like

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I don't need to do the mask anymore, you know, and then all the other stuff that's come out

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recently, but that we're talking about bookstores.

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Yeah.

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I was a little like upset about the whole mask thing in the bookstore.

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Because even my doctor's office now doesn't require masks.

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So I'm going to the doctor's office.

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They don't make me wear a mask.

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I go to a, I'm just going to call it what it is, a left wing bookstore.

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And it's all like mask up or you can't come look at our overpriced books.

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Right.

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When I go to a bookstore, I want like Blacks books.

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I don't know if you ever saw that TV show.

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No.

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It's a British TV show with Dylan Moran and TLDR.

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It's an alcoholic Irish guy who does not want to sell anybody books, but owns a bookstore.

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I want the, the Corianders bookstore from never ending story.

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I need to watch that movie.

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I watched it when I was a kid and I don't recall anything from it.

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If you haven't seen the German cut, you have to watch that too, but you should watch the

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American version first.

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It's wait, it's, it's not drastically different, but the tone is kind of drastically different.

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Okay.

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This is a German cut darker.

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There's more sauerkraut interestingly enough, but right on.

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No.

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So just in quick summation, the, the director, I think Wolfgang Peterson made his cut of

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the film and it was all done with a composer, true score, everything.

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And there's a really nice scene with, not to get super nerdy and have people like eyes

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rolled back in their head.

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There's an, like the, the black wolf thing that chases the main character.

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There's a scene that provides way more into that creature's backstory that really like

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threw me for a loop in a good way.

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Like and I've read the novel too.

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So, but and then when it came over to America, they stripped all of the original score out

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of it and they did the, the synth pop score through everything and they cut, cut some

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scenes and trim some stuff.

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So it's not less fun, like the German version isn't less fun, but it's less like blatantly

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in your face, eighties poppy.

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You know what I mean?

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Sure.

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So it's like a 1984 doom without all the eighties magic.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's like a serious film almost, you know?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Something that could stand up to the test of time.

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Yeah.

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I mean the original, the American one does too, because it's a great movie, but, but

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yeah.

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So speaking, so I talked about Moon Palace books, speaking about kind of left-wing bookstores,

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there's another bookstore and it's small too.

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It's, it's small, but it's called the irreverent, irreverent, irreverent, irreverent bookworm.

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And they're, you know, very left-wing, at least on their, you know, social media pages

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and stuff, which is fine.

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Like I don't really care.

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It's not a big deal, but they've got their history.

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It's funny because like you go in there and they kind of live up to their name.

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So their history section is called like a bunch of boring things written by rich white

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men and that's their history section.

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You know, so it's tongue in cheek, but they've got, and they curate their books because they've

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got a small space.

485
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,680
And so their books, they've got a lot of like staff recommendations and most of the books

486
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,000
in there kind of have kind of like things.

487
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,080
And so I think they only, they only sell things that they kind of like stand behind, I guess.

488
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,640
So and you know, it's, you're still kind of paying full price, but at least it's, it's

489
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,440
a curated like niche bookstore, right?

490
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,920
You're not going to go in there and get the, the rows and rows and rows of romance novels

491
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,080
with the nippily men.

492
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,080
Yeah.

493
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,760
You're getting the book buying experience along with a book potentially.

494
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,760
Yeah.

495
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,040
And it's curated, right?

496
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,640
So they've got limited shelf space.

497
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,040
So the stuff that's in there is stuff they want to sell or they want people to read.

498
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,040
Right.

499
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,840
So that one I kind of like just for the experience.

500
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,160
I don't think I've ever bought anything from them, but it was fun to kind of go in and

501
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:54,560
look and see kind of their cheeky like section, section titles or section headers or whatever.

502
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,720
So that one's fine.

503
00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:01,440
There's another one and I didn't buy anything from it, but it's called wild rumpus and they

504
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,040
have cats and chickens and stuff in the store.

505
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,840
And the cats that they have are the, they're like these talus, tail-less cats that have

506
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,440
kind of a demeanor of a dog.

507
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,360
So you can like pet them and you can like, but it's a, it's a, it's a bookstore for young

508
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,780
readers is what they build themselves as.

509
00:25:19,780 --> 00:25:23,760
So it's a lot of fun and they've got a big door and like a small door, you know, for

510
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,820
kids and stuff.

511
00:25:24,820 --> 00:25:26,780
So that one's pretty good.

512
00:25:26,780 --> 00:25:32,000
That does not sound chickens to the, uh, it's not, it's not, it's not as, it's not like gross

513
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,240
like you think it is.

514
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,240
Okay.

515
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,240
Okay.

516
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,240
Like it's fine.

517
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,240
It's good.

518
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,440
Uh, I did, we should, I need to bring, bring, uh, my daughter there.

519
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,920
She would, she would love it.

520
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,920
Oh, I bet.

521
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,920
Yeah.

522
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,760
And then a paperback exchange is pretty good.

523
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,760
It's a used bookstore.

524
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,520
They're, their prices are a little higher than I would like for a used bookstore.

525
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,080
They've got a, they've the interesting thing with paperback exchange is they've got a whole

526
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,320
conspiracy theory wall of conspiracy theory books.

527
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,320
And that's what they call them.

528
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,120
And it's got the UFOs and it's got like the Sam scrunches, the Sasquatches and stuff like

529
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:05,120
that.

530
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:08,920
So like, it's the only bookstore I've seen that has like a full on like conspiracy theory

531
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,120
dedicated section.

532
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,600
I probably would like to go there.

533
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,520
I don't think I'd buy a conspiracy theory book, but I like to see all of them.

534
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,520
Yeah.

535
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,680
Well, you know, we can go sometime, dude.

536
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,680
Yeah.

537
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,680
Well, to go.

538
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,680
Yeah.

539
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,200
So I said like, uncle, Hugo's is really good.

540
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,520
There's one that we went to.

541
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,440
I might've been this one, the book house.

542
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,500
It's in Dinkytown and it was, it was good.

543
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:37,320
It was, it's one of those bookstores where nothing is really laid out.

544
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,320
I mean, it's laid out.

545
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,080
They've got their sections, but their section signs are kind of hard to see.

546
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,780
So it's kind of like, you're kind of just kind of wandering around in this place.

547
00:26:46,780 --> 00:26:48,520
It's like one of those wandering bookstores.

548
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,240
It's not like, okay, I want to go to the fiction or I want to go to the nonfiction or I want

549
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,900
to go to the history or I want to go to, you know, pre-World War II, Middle Eastern politics

550
00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:00,040
or something like you're not going to those sections.

551
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,360
It's kind of more of a wandering one.

552
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:02,360
And that one was fine.

553
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,280
I don't think I, I might've bought something there, but I don't know that that's kind of

554
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,760
it for the bookstores I've been to.

555
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:14,200
Oh wait, there's one more, but I actually, I actually like it is majors in Quinn and

556
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,680
it's right in uptown and it's pretty good.

557
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,640
And that's a large, large, large bookstore.

558
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,240
So they've got, they've got a lot, a lot of stuff, but it's, and it's not used stuff.

559
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,040
So I don't know if I bought anything from them either, but it's one of those places

560
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,040
that's fun to look around.

561
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,040
Cause it's so big.

562
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,040
Oh, sure.

563
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,040
Yeah.

564
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,600
I, I, I'm so terrible with remembering the names of bookstores.

565
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,160
I know that there's a bookstore that Sarah likes to stop at when we're in the area by

566
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:49,520
DIR and it's all used books and it's a lot of romance novels, a lot of romance novels.

567
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,520
Okay.

568
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,520
I know the one you're talking about.

569
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,760
I think I've been there.

570
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,760
Yes.

571
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,200
But the one thing that stands out is that on the outside of the building and inside

572
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,640
there's military propaganda posters everywhere.

573
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,080
I don't know if you remember that.

574
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,080
Emily's books.

575
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,080
Yes, it is.

576
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,080
Okay.

577
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:15,320
And then there's another bookstore farther up the road over by like the junk stores.

578
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,320
You know what I'm talking about?

579
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,400
Like they have like bicycles out in the middle of the yard, but back there, there's a bookstore

580
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,400
as well.

581
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,400
Oh, okay.

582
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,400
Yeah.

583
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,400
Emily's used books.

584
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,400
Is that second time around?

585
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,400
Yeah, I think so.

586
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,760
Cause that's a, that's a thrift store, but I know there's like, they've got, they've

587
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,760
got books I think too.

588
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,760
Yes.

589
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,000
They have a major book section from what I understand.

590
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,000
I've never been in there.

591
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,680
Sarah was, you know, touring the area.

592
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,680
Yeah.

593
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,480
And she went in there, but I went to Emily's and I was only in Emily's once and it was

594
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,280
like you said, it was all this romance stuff.

595
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680
So I kind of lost interest pretty quick.

596
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:53,000
What they have, if you go way into the back corner, they have a sci-fi section and we

597
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,640
actually bought two grocery bags full of books for like 80 bucks.

598
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,760
It was really, really reasonable.

599
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,640
And I got a Dune book there.

600
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,880
It was House of Thorns.

601
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,880
Yeah.

602
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,880
Yeah.

603
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,760
And they were books, but you had to find them, you know?

604
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,560
The the Hennepin County libraries used to do before the pandemic anyway, used to do

605
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,640
these book sales and you go in and the books would be like 25 cents.

606
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,040
You could fill like a grocery bag, a paper grocery bag for like five bucks.

607
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,040
Yeah.

608
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,000
I bought a lot of books from, from that, but I don't know if they still do them off to

609
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,880
check their, their websites, but.

610
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,000
I bet you they do.

611
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,320
Cause my mother goes to those sales.

612
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,840
She'll travel around and go to the quarter bag, like for a quarter, you fill a bag.

613
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,840
Yep.

614
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,840
Yep.

615
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,840
Yep.

616
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,840
And yeah.

617
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,840
Yeah.

618
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,840
Those are good.

619
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,440
I don't know how often like you're in the Brainerd area, but that, that Cattails one

620
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,440
is pretty interesting.

621
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,720
I haven't spent much time in there.

622
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,720
Yes, it is interesting.

623
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:54,880
We talked about that because it's memorable because it's downtown historic Brainerd, which

624
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,920
is not bad anymore.

625
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:02,520
They have like sidewalks, interesting sidewalk paintings and everything, but it's like some

626
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,480
new books and a huge use section.

627
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,400
And yeah, it's kind of interesting.

628
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,600
I get a lot of Star Trek.

629
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,960
I have in the past got a lot of Star Trek and Star Wars books there.

630
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,960
Okay.

631
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,360
And they have, yeah.

632
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,400
One of, one of my friends I've done some film stuff with, he's a theater person up in, up

633
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,000
in the Brainerd lakes area, a bit north of there.

634
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,800
And he wrote a book with his partner, which I haven't read yet, but he only sold it at

635
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,800
Cattails.

636
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,800
So I ran in there and picked it up.

637
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,080
It was like five bucks for this book or whatever, but yeah, just to support him.

638
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:43,000
But they do, I think they do that where they do kind of like the, they'll sell local authors,

639
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,560
even if it's like spiral bound.

640
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,560
Oh, that's cool.

641
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,560
Yeah.

642
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,000
I remember there were like crystals and like weird hippie shit in there.

643
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Yeah.

644
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Stuff in there for sure.

645
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
Yeah.

646
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000
There's like weird stuff.

647
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,800
It's very, it's interesting to walk around in.

648
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:03,040
It's memorable, especially because the Annie's bookstore is like this got right wing propaganda

649
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,040
everywhere.

650
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,240
It's like the polar opposite in the same area.

651
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,240
Yeah.

652
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,240
But it's hilarious.

653
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:16,840
But yeah, I like, I like buying used books, especially when it's like a Star Trek or Star

654
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,400
Wars story, because they're so quick, you know, and you can read a Star Wars novel in

655
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,400
two hours.

656
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,400
Oh, for sure.

657
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,400
Yeah.

658
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,400
There's like, some of them are two, some of them are four.

659
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,400
Yeah.

660
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,840
I do enjoy half price books and they've got a lot of locations in the cities and they're

661
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,840
nationwide.

662
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,840
Yeah.

663
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,840
Sarah is a big fan.

664
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,840
Okay.

665
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,520
Sometimes though, like it depends if you're looking for a specific thing, sometimes it's

666
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,720
a little more expensive than you would think it should be.

667
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,680
And so if it's a book that I really want, but I don't really want to pay 15 bucks for

668
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,400
it when I can get it for $3 off of eBay with free shipping, you know, right, then I'll

669
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,480
just get it off of eBay.

670
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,840
I did one of the Dune books that I bought in the main eight series.

671
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,760
I don't know if I told you this, Mike, but it was one of, it wasn't God Emperor of Dune

672
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,000
because that would have been too perfect because of the cover of that book.

673
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,240
But it was one of the later ones and I bought it from eBay.

674
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,480
And so I picked it up to start it and I was like, Oh, is this paperback?

675
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,940
And like, there's something in here.

676
00:32:11,940 --> 00:32:16,240
So I flipped it open and it was like this shitty digital picture that was printed out,

677
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,240
right?

678
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,240
On just like card stock almost.

679
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,800
And you could tell it was kind of like one of the earlier, like not the earliest, but

680
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,480
still like an earlier digital photo.

681
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,680
And it's this old guy laying on this bed with a raging fucking boner.

682
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,020
And I'm like, gross.

683
00:32:31,020 --> 00:32:35,740
But also like you're reading Dune and Dune, like that's where you put your pornography

684
00:32:35,740 --> 00:32:39,300
of like your boyfriend or whatever.

685
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:40,920
So that was bizarre.

686
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,000
That was a little gift from them to you.

687
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000
Love it.

688
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,600
Love it.

689
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,600
Love it.

690
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,600
Anyway.

691
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,440
So if we move a little bit further outside, my brother lives near Stevens Point, Wisconsin,

692
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,760
where my one brother does.

693
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,960
And in Stevens Point, there is one of the best used bookstores.

694
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,880
It's like every time I go and visit him, I'm like, we got to go, we got to go.

695
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,880
And he loves it too.

696
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,480
And we got to go, we got to go.

697
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,560
It's Blue Moon Books.

698
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:16,260
And this guy does not work for a union because if you make one wrong move in this store,

699
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:18,560
you will be crushed by tons of books.

700
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,720
You will die.

701
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,720
You will just die.

702
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:26,000
I don't know if he doesn't keep up on his electricity bill or if he just can't afford

703
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,800
to put more lights in, but he has like flashlights staged around the thing.

704
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,240
It's like a full on like house.

705
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,840
Like imagine he bought this house and he converted it into a bookstore and it's huge and it's

706
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,840
massive.

707
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,680
There's been times that we've gone in there and like one of the lamps that he had in the

708
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,400
back had like got knocked over and there's like broken glass on the floor and stuff.

709
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:52,600
And his organization upsets me, but his prices are phenomenal and he has like everything

710
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,880
of everything of everything you could ever possibly hope to have.

711
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,480
That sounds like a story that you could spend a lot of time in.

712
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,440
You can, you can.

713
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,120
So he's got like, it's really weird because he's got two sci-fi sections, which are separated

714
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:13,520
by like a hallway, one's in a separate room, but the alphabetizing happens in both sections.

715
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,840
So the one section right by the register is like A to Z and then the other sci-fi section

716
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,040
is A to Z, but it could have some of the same books in the other section as the other section,

717
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,660
but they're all used books.

718
00:34:24,660 --> 00:34:28,920
And then some of the stuff he's got like fiction and then like mystery.

719
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,280
So if you want Michael Crichton books, they're in both of those sections.

720
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,520
So you just kind of have to bounce back and forth between those sections to find the book.

721
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,640
So it's a little like frustrating that way.

722
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,080
But if you have the time and if you're not wearing a backpack and you're feeling like

723
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,300
thin that day, you can go and like look at all of these books.

724
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:56,440
But it's if you have OCD or if you get kind of like thrown by chaos, it's not really a

725
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,740
place for you, but it's one of my favorite bookstores because it's like, it is an experience

726
00:34:59,740 --> 00:35:05,920
to go there because all of his shelves are bowing under the weight of these books and

727
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,440
he's got books in the front and he pull a book out and you're like, oh, there's another

728
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,040
row of books behind this one.

729
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,720
And it's somehow kind of alphabetized and then you pull that book out and there's like

730
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,400
a third row behind that row deep in these shelves.

731
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:24,480
So it's amazing because of all of the books that he has and you can totally find like

732
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,480
it'll take you some time.

733
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,320
But the other thing is cool is you can ask him, you just pick him looking for this book

734
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,200
and he'll be like, oh yeah, let me check.

735
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,040
So he's got on his computer, he's got all the books that he has and he somehow like

736
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,300
plugs them in so he can go and find it for you.

737
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:41,800
But if you're trying to find it on your own, it's going to take you a lot longer.

738
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,800
That's awesome.

739
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,280
But yeah, that's one of my favorite ones of all time because it does.

740
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,280
That's memorable.

741
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,280
Yeah.

742
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,280
Yeah.

743
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,360
Well, and I love Uncle Hugo's, but they only do sci-fi and mystery.

744
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,840
And so this one does, they've got a big sci-fi section, but they've got a huge nonfiction

745
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:04,160
section and they've got all like the car books and whatever books and hobby books and things

746
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,160
like that too.

747
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,160
Oh, sure.

748
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,160
Yeah.

749
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,160
Yeah.

750
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,720
We were on vacation up in the Arrowhead and near Grandma Ray, they have these little roadside

751
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:16,080
shops and they're junk stores.

752
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:21,300
They sell everything from paddles to tea sets.

753
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:22,300
Have you ever been up there?

754
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:23,640
I don't think so.

755
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,640
Okay.

756
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,640
Yeah.

757
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,640
So you drive up highway 61.

758
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,640
That's like a junk shop.

759
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Yeah.

760
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,280
You drive up highway 61 and it'll be like a wide spot in the road.

761
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,800
And there's one, just south of Grandma Ray that has books.

762
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:41,040
And we were on vacation and we had limited space and we still bought a grocery bag full

763
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:47,240
of sci-fi books because they had a bunch of Star Trek books that I had not read.

764
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:53,520
And I bought a grocery bag of Star Trek books at this roadside.

765
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:59,320
It looks like a junk store because it has like picnic tables lined up with like just

766
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,320
garbage on it.

767
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,320
You know?

768
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,960
And then you go into the building and they have books, used books for nothing.

769
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:06,960
You know?

770
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,840
I think I spent like, I don't know, 75 cents a book or something like that.

771
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,840
Yeah, that's good.

772
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,720
It was too good of a deal.

773
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:20,720
So if anybody's ever up in that area, I guess it's worth a stop at these like very shifty

774
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:25,280
looking roadside businesses that take cash only.

775
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,280
Yep.

776
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,280
But.

777
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,280
Yeah.

778
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,520
And then a bookstore that's, oh, then my other brother lives in Connecticut and it's a couple

779
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,520
hours drive from him.

780
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:40,640
So I'm not sure if it's in Connecticut or where it's in, but it's called the Book Barn.

781
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,680
And they used to have, I think like I was out there maybe four years, four years ago,

782
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,680
I think.

783
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,240
And they had like five or six different locations.

784
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:55,040
And the one location is a barn or a series of barns on this property.

785
00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:01,680
And you go there and it's not air conditioned at all, but they've got a barn for like sci-fi.

786
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,560
They've got a barn for history.

787
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,860
They've got a barn for biographies.

788
00:38:05,860 --> 00:38:10,240
They've got a, in the biography section, they've got presidential biographies, other biographies

789
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,000
broken subcategorically.

790
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,000
So I bought it.

791
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Wow.

792
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,840
And it's like a kid's book and modern newer books like downtown.

793
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,360
And you have to go, you have to hop to all these different places.

794
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,840
But my brother said they kind of condensed their locations a little bit since the pandemic.

795
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:28,840
But.

796
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,840
Oh, sure.

797
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:35,120
Phenomenal place and dirt cheap prices because they're all used books or whatever.

798
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,120
And I flew out.

799
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:43,020
So I had to like, I had to take the train back from my brother's and then get into New York

800
00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:50,220
city and then get to the airport with my suitcase full of books and then on a plane and back

801
00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:51,220
and stuff.

802
00:38:51,220 --> 00:38:52,920
But, but that was fine.

803
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:58,260
And then this last, when we were in New York this last year, I went to the Strand, which

804
00:38:58,260 --> 00:39:01,020
I guess is one of the famous bookstores in New York.

805
00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:03,560
And it was, it was amazing.

806
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,960
Sarah had a bit of a meltdown, like mental crisis in there.

807
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,040
Cause it was like packed with people, but it's all like people you don't have to talk

808
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,040
to, like I'm an introvert.

809
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,600
But you know, like all these book people and they go there and they have a coffee shop

810
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,600
in the back.

811
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,920
Some of their prices were like full price and some of their prices were better than

812
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,520
eBay prices on these books.

813
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,140
And I think they're all like brand new books.

814
00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:28,680
And I bought like a really thick book, which was dumb, but I did because I had never seen

815
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,680
it anywhere else.

816
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,040
And it was one I wanted to read and it was cheaper than the eBay one that I was watching

817
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,040
on eBay.

818
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,040
And I was like, I gotta buy it.

819
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,160
And I bought some stickers and stuff because like it was a cool place, you know, New York

820
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,160
city, but.

821
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,160
Oh, sure.

822
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,160
Yeah.

823
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,760
I'm over halfway done with the cigar, by the way.

824
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,560
I'm not sure where you're at.

825
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,360
I'm about half halfway.

826
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,360
Okay.

827
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,560
When I first lit it up, it was a light and I thought, Oh no, is this going to be like

828
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,360
a light flavored cigar?

829
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,360
What?

830
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,360
Not, Oh no.

831
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,680
But typically we, if we do two shows, I try to do the darker cigar first or second and

832
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,200
the lighter cigar first.

833
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Yes.

834
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,360
This is not spicy, but it is a full bodied cigar for sure.

835
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,960
Full bodied the first like the first quarter wasn't, that was, yeah, it was fine.

836
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,960
It's getting better.

837
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:15,960
I think.

838
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:16,960
I like it.

839
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,960
I like that middle section.

840
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:18,960
I like it right now too.

841
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,960
Oh, I like the middle section.

842
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,960
Yeah.

843
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Yeah.

844
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:22,960
Oh yeah.

845
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,560
It's like with you, like the first bit wasn't, I was kind of like, okay, you know.

846
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,560
Yeah.

847
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,560
It's building.

848
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,560
It's come into its own.

849
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,560
Yeah.

850
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,560
Building.

851
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,560
Yeah.

852
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,560
It's building.

853
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,560
I really like it so far.

854
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,560
I feel bad that I poo pooed how it looked.

855
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,560
Mike looks, looks aren't everything.

856
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,480
Don't change a book by its cover or a cigar by its wrapper.

857
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,480
Yeah.

858
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,400
Calling it the banker is definitely appropriate because it's.

859
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,400
Yes.

860
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,400
It's good.

861
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,400
Yeah.

862
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,400
It's good.

863
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,400
I like it.

864
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,400
I could definitely smoke one reading a book.

865
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,400
Yes.

866
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,440
Working on an Excel spreadsheet.

867
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,880
I could read one or eat one.

868
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,880
Oh yes.

869
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,880
Smoke one.

870
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,880
Fuck.

871
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,880
Yeah.

872
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:00,880
Eat.

873
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,880
Jesus Christ.

874
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,880
Yeah.

875
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:03,880
And I've been digging the V cut.

876
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,880
That's two cigars in a row.

877
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,760
I've done V cut because even when I'm with you, I usually only do one cigar V cut and

878
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,240
then I just use my straight cuts.

879
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:12,240
So yeah.

880
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,440
I cross cut this one and a good choice.

881
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,440
Yeah.

882
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,440
Good choice.

883
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,440
A lot of airflow.

884
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,440
But yeah.

885
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,600
So I don't remember the names of these bookstores like you do.

886
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,560
I remember where they're located.

887
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,840
So and most of them are part bookstore, part junk store.

888
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,840
Like you know what I mean?

889
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,920
All these bookstores like back.

890
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,800
This has one pretty much every tourist town in the northern half of the state has a used

891
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,040
bookstore as a part of their antique shop.

892
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,040
You know?

893
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,040
Yeah.

894
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,040
Yeah.

895
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,480
And the antiques are always three times what they're supposed to be.

896
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,720
And the books are always reasonable because nobody is buying books at these stores for

897
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:53,440
the most part.

898
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,440
Yeah.

899
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,040
So Sarah loves to go to who Taylor's Falls because there's the Taylor Falls bead store

900
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,040
there.

901
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:07,480
And the upper level is all like jewelry stuff and beads and stones and gems and clasps and

902
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,640
whatever the charms and stuff.

903
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,080
But if you go in the basement, they have like a full blown antique store in the basement

904
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,960
that has books and vinyl and like other stuff too.

905
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:24,200
So I knew that store was there and we wanted to go because we hiked the park.

906
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,200
Okay.

907
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,200
Yeah.

908
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,200
Yeah.

909
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:35,520
And we closed because it was during 2021 winter and nothing was open in Taylor's Falls for

910
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,880
obvious reasons.

911
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,280
Mysterious, I'm sure to some people.

912
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,040
But the park was packed.

913
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,680
We could barely get parking.

914
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,920
So everybody was like obviously out and about and trying to enjoy themselves.

915
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,920
And we walked the whole town.

916
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,920
If you've ever been back there, it's worth a stop.

917
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:52,920
Yeah.

918
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,920
Well, yeah, we'll go back to Taylor's Falls.

919
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,000
It's a lovely place.

920
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,720
And that beat store has a really good selection of incense as well if you're into incense

921
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:00,720
at all.

922
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,240
Yeah, we have incense occasionally.

923
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:07,360
We have a, I don't know if I've showed you, but we got a grandfather clock at an antique

924
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,000
store that has a service record, believe it or not.

925
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Oh, nice.

926
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,000
Yeah.

927
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,000
Yeah.

928
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,480
And the inside of it is like shelving.

929
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,080
And inside of the shelving, we have all of our smelly stuff, you know, candles and incense

930
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,080
and things.

931
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,120
If there's one thing Mike loves more than bowling, it's a watch.

932
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,520
And if it's one thing Mike likes more than a giant watch, it's a giant watch with a service

933
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,520
record.

934
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,520
Hell yeah.

935
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,240
No, I saw it had a service record and had to come in.

936
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:38,560
It had to come into the house.

937
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,520
Not only does it work, it has a service record and it was just serviced right before it got

938
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,920
put in the store.

939
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,920
So yeah.

940
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:46,920
Yep.

941
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:52,800
Yeah, I kind of wonder about like the service record stuff because I know when you go to

942
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,720
like sell your car, if you have a service record of things, you can maybe get more money

943
00:43:58,720 --> 00:43:59,720
for it or something.

944
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:03,680
But I feel like ever since the cash for clunkers, like there's not really a used car market

945
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,920
like there used to be.

946
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,160
No, there's not.

947
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,880
It's crazy.

948
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,720
Drive around and not a lot of really bad crappy vehicles on the road anymore.

949
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,720
And if they are, they're real bad.

950
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:17,000
No one cares on mine to keep a bad crappy car on the road.

951
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,000
Right.

952
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,160
Well, yours wouldn't have qualified anyway.

953
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,160
Gas mileage is too high.

954
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,160
Yeah.

955
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,160
Gas mileage is too high.

956
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,880
My mom wanted to sell her Explorer for that program and it was too new.

957
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,880
She was so mad.

958
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,880
So.

959
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:37,440
Yeah, I wanted to say a full disclosure, Mike, I pulled up a list on Google of all the bookstores

960
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,340
in the Twin Cities here and then I remembered the names, you know, that way.

961
00:44:42,340 --> 00:44:45,160
You cheating so and so.

962
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:51,360
I mean, I remember I didn't have to look up Book Barn and I didn't have to look up Blue

963
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,200
Moon Books and Steven's Point.

964
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:58,200
I didn't have to look up Uncle Uncle Edgar's and Uncle Hugo's like my favorites.

965
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:03,960
But you know, yeah, one that major and whatever one like that was a pretty decent bookstore,

966
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,440
but I would not have remembered the name.

967
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,160
I know where it is, but I wouldn't have remembered the name.

968
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,160
Right.

969
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,840
And I'm like most of my bookstore experiences are like, oh, we're going to tool around and

970
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,840
cloak.

971
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,840
Okay.

972
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,120
You know, oh, let's stop by this store.

973
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:24,800
They happen to have used books or Duluth, you know, to it around Duluth and they go

974
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,560
into the antique shop and they have a book section like, oh, that's cool.

975
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,200
Let's wander over there.

976
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,120
And those are then you're it's hit and miss.

977
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,120
Let's put it that way.

978
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,120
Hit and miss.

979
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,120
Yeah, for sure.

980
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:43,760
And in terms of things that I enjoy about bookstores and any bookstores, I just like

981
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,080
the library look.

982
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,080
You know what I mean?

983
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:51,440
Like, that's why I like physical media, you know, so like your patio where we go on smoke

984
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,400
and do the podcast sometimes and where you're doing the podcast tonight, you know, like

985
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,400
the bookshelves.

986
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,320
Like, I just love that look of like, here's a whole bunch of books and you can kind of

987
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,160
like look over there and, oh, that looks like an interesting one or, oh yeah, I read that

988
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,080
one or I want to read that one, you know, and kind of the same for me with like DVD

989
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,440
and we've got the big vinyl collection and that's neat too to just have like, you can

990
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,840
kind of browse.

991
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,960
Yep, absolutely.

992
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,960
Versus the streaming.

993
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,280
I mean, you browse on like, you can browse on like Netflix and the other things too,

994
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,440
but there's something about browsing like tactile, you know, like I can flip through

995
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,400
records or I can like scan the spines of the books.

996
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:35,600
There's something about physical media that you just can't replicate with a screen.

997
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:41,920
And when people come over here who have never been here, I always, I get weird reactions

998
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,920
sometimes.

999
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,280
I'm not going to mention their name.

1000
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,640
I don't even remember who it was.

1001
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,800
It was somebody that Sarah and I both knew that hadn't been over and they looked at the

1002
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,920
wall and they're like, oh, you guys are readers, huh?

1003
00:46:53,920 --> 00:47:02,200
They're like, okay, apparently it's not normal to have a book wall in the house anymore.

1004
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,840
Probably not in our, for our generation really.

1005
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,840
I guess so.

1006
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,480
I mean, our generation are younger.

1007
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,400
I mean, I feel like our generation, some people are and some people aren't, but you go younger

1008
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,960
and a lot of people are like, I haven't picked up a book since like high school.

1009
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,960
Right.

1010
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,920
Oh, I have an acquaintance, let's say somebody I spent a lot of time with who is almost proud

1011
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,440
of the fact that they have never read a book cover to cover.

1012
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:30,600
It's like, you are almost 50 fucking years old and you have never read a book.

1013
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,600
Like really?

1014
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,840
And he's a nice person, right?

1015
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,120
And all that.

1016
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,360
It's like, how can you be proud of the fact that you've never read a book?

1017
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,680
How can you make, how can you seriously think that you're making accurate decisions about

1018
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,680
things?

1019
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,680
Yeah.

1020
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:55,280
Well, I don't even care if it's, you know, fiction or nonfiction, you know, reading expands

1021
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:01,360
your comprehension of things, even if it's not like you can read Dune and still expand

1022
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,800
your comprehension of things, you know.

1023
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,800
Right.

1024
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,400
It increases, well, it's like exercise for your brain.

1025
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,400
Yes.

1026
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,120
So I know there's a lot of studies about that.

1027
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,560
That reading is good for the mind.

1028
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,560
Yes, indeed.

1029
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,400
And good for the soul if we have one.

1030
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,880
Well, something like that, especially if you read things that are both interesting and

1031
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,120
insightful, you know?

1032
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,120
Yeah.

1033
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:33,040
I think, well, I enjoy, and you know, not all books are created the same and just because

1034
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,400
it's a book doesn't mean it's true, you know what I mean?

1035
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:41,120
But I enjoy, so I went, and we've talked about this before, because it was one of our first

1036
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:47,120
season episodes was a period in history that we really enjoy in minds of Lewis and Clark,

1037
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,120
you know?

1038
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:54,140
And so I loved being able to research and find the best written books and the most interestingly

1039
00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:59,240
written books on Lewis and Clark, and then being able to read those books, you know,

1040
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:04,400
all kind of back to back to back to get kind of a complete picture of the expedition, you

1041
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,400
know what I mean?

1042
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,400
Right.

1043
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,800
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff on it because it was not in modern, yeah, it was the modern

1044
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,800
era basically.

1045
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:13,800
Yeah, yeah.

1046
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,240
We don't have pictures from it, but damn near.

1047
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:17,240
Yeah.

1048
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:22,200
But that's the cool thing about books is like, there are so many different historians and

1049
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,080
authors out there who enjoy certain things.

1050
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:31,320
And if you stumble across something in a book or get recommended a book and you discover

1051
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,520
a topic you weren't aware of that you're super into, there's a ton of books on that topic.

1052
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,820
They're not all going to be good or well written or well researched, but some of them will

1053
00:49:39,820 --> 00:49:45,720
be and you can like really expand your knowledge on something to be more than just the cursory,

1054
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:47,200
I know what happened.

1055
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,200
Right.

1056
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,200
Yeah.

1057
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,440
And well, you know this.

1058
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,080
The internet does not have everything on it quite yet.

1059
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,320
So I have an old.

1060
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,320
If you know where to look, it has most things.

1061
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,440
I mean, it has the circumcision book, the history of circumcision.

1062
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,680
All right.

1063
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:09,240
It has a lot of relevant information, but if you have old machinery, you know, the good

1064
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:14,520
old guidebooks that they used to sell in every auto parts store are still your best resource.

1065
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:15,520
Yeah, the Hayes.

1066
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,520
Yeah, the Hayes.

1067
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,520
The Hayes.

1068
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,520
Yeah.

1069
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:26,720
Because it's like a 99 Polaris 325 Magnum, which is they don't have repair videos on

1070
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:27,720
that four wheeler.

1071
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:28,720
It's too old.

1072
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:29,720
Yeah.

1073
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:30,720
Yeah.

1074
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:33,960
Even though it's a classic, apparently it's worth money because it's in very good condition.

1075
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,440
But OK, it just needs to plow as far as I'm concerned.

1076
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,800
But yeah, I had to buy a Hayes manual to fix it, which is fine.

1077
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,280
Yeah.

1078
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:50,160
And then any sort of I still have a lot of books from trade school and from college too.

1079
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,160
Yeah.

1080
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,440
And you're certainly not going to find American Jesus on the Internet, you know?

1081
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,440
Yeah.

1082
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:01,240
That's a I kept some college books, but I ended up getting rid of a lot of them because

1083
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:06,280
I had, you know, I did film school and architecture, so I kept a couple.

1084
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:12,360
But a lot of them, I was just like, for film filmmaking and stuff, the Internet has more

1085
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,520
relevant information than any book ever, because by the time the book is published, the information

1086
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,740
is already out of date on some of that stuff.

1087
00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:23,520
Just with the way technology is advancing with like digital filmmaking and stuff.

1088
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:28,260
If you're doing like 35 millimeter film or like the old school filmmaking, like, of course,

1089
00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:29,520
the books are going to be better.

1090
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:35,920
But you know, something that's kind of like still trending or still advancing technologically,

1091
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,600
like the books are very hard pressed.

1092
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:43,640
Like you go to all these bookstores and they have like the C++ coding manual or like the

1093
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,160
JavaScript and it's like, but it's from like 1998.

1094
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,880
And you're like, dude, no, that's so out of date.

1095
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,040
Even if you want to get into JavaScript, that book will not help you because the everything

1096
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,640
has changed so much since then.

1097
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,960
Well, yeah, anything with technology.

1098
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:02,480
I yeah, anything with technology.

1099
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:10,440
I took a political science course, which granted this is like 15 years ago about politics,

1100
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,280
like Internet politics.

1101
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,680
And there was no course book.

1102
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,720
You know, this was like brand new technology at the time or brand new trends.

1103
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:24,560
And it was all online research and online published research and stuff like that.

1104
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:30,040
So anything that's newer, obviously, it's going to be not in book format and related

1105
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,200
to our podcasts, like all the cigar and pipe information you'd ever want to know is on

1106
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,200
the Internet.

1107
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,920
You know, there's so much access to information now as far as hobby, any hobby that people

1108
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,080
are actively doing.

1109
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:48,800
Yeah, I think the biggest difference between books and like Internet articles or blogs

1110
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:55,920
or how to's is that before the Internet, you had to actually get somebody to pay to publish

1111
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,120
your book.

1112
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:05,680
So there had to be some level of professionalism or research if it was a nonfiction or whatever.

1113
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,680
You know what I mean?

1114
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,760
I mean, certainly they could gatekeep people out of there.

1115
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Like Andy Weir released The Martian chapter by chapter on his blog and everybody went

1116
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,040
crazy for it and he got it published and then a movie was made from it.

1117
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,880
So that was, you know, different than the normal path.

1118
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,680
But that's the kind of level of writing that you would have to have to get yourself published

1119
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:28,680
pre Internet.

1120
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,680
Right.

1121
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,680
Yeah.

1122
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,280
So like that's why Stephen Ambrose has so many books out because the Internet wasn't a thing

1123
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,160
when he was pumping out all that stuff.

1124
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:43,280
You know, no, and once you get your first success, you have access, right?

1125
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,280
Yeah.

1126
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,280
Yeah.

1127
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,480
And Stephen Ambrose is very entertaining, not necessarily the most accurate.

1128
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,480
Yeah.

1129
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,400
And that was a style of book that I guess is still common, but it's not as common as

1130
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,640
it was like the pop history.

1131
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,440
Yeah.

1132
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,440
Entertainment themed.

1133
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:00,440
Yeah.

1134
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,040
And now with the Internet, anyone can publish anything.

1135
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,040
Right.

1136
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:09,200
So with books though, you still have to be careful or you still have to be discriminatory,

1137
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,200
right?

1138
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,200
Curate.

1139
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,200
You have to read it.

1140
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,160
So I didn't read every single book on Lewis and Clark.

1141
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,160
Right.

1142
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,120
I did research on which ones were the most accurate, which ones had the most interesting

1143
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:24,440
perspectives, which ones this and that, you know, so you have to get third party input

1144
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,240
to see if the book you're about to read is actually accurate or not.

1145
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:32,240
Or if you can't verify it, you have to go in with a little bit of suspension of disbelief

1146
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:37,760
or a little bit of, I don't know what you would call it, criticism or like being, being

1147
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,360
willing to critically think.

1148
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,360
Right.

1149
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,480
And with the easy access to everything on the Internet, you can easily access all this

1150
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,320
stuff that sounds really good, but isn't actually true.

1151
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,560
Oh, there's a lot of, there's a cognitive bias, right?

1152
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:52,560
Yeah.

1153
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,080
It's a lot more stuff you have to cut through on the Internet versus a book.

1154
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,480
I mean, you still have to cut through things with books.

1155
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:05,120
Some stuff is just written in as bad or as wrong, like Dr. Spock, but I feel like the

1156
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,400
market wasn't as flooded with books because you actually had to print the books.

1157
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,200
Somebody had to pay to print the books and then just market the books, sell the books,

1158
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,080
be able to read the books and the Internet kind of took that whole process out of it.

1159
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,880
Now all you have to do is write something, publish it and people can read it.

1160
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,880
Yeah.

1161
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,920
Anybody, anybody can say anything they want, you know.

1162
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,560
Which is, which is great, but it's also bad, you know.

1163
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:27,760
It is.

1164
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,160
It's kind of like the whole hucksterism on steroids.

1165
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:37,400
Like we went to the craft fair and there was a guy selling spices and the claim, you know,

1166
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,680
he had like six or seven kinds and they were all good, but the claim of the originals,

1167
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:47,760
this is a hundred year old Norwegian family recipe for this spice blend and you taste

1168
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,080
it and it tastes like Lawry's.

1169
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:54,000
It's like, well, I mean, I can put Lawry's in a, yeah, I can put Lawry's in a different

1170
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,840
container and tell you a story about that 100 year old Norwegian blah, blah, blah.

1171
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,680
Maybe Lawry's is a hundred year old Norwegian recipe.

1172
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:02,680
I don't know.

1173
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,680
Yeah.

1174
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:10,640
You know, like I can say whatever I want as long as nobody's verifying.

1175
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,520
Nobody's looking too deep into it.

1176
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,520
Right.

1177
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:20,320
Like I kept my AC and DC theory textbooks because you know, if I actually need to know

1178
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:26,120
the answer before something explodes, I'm not going to search the internet.

1179
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,120
You know, that's-

1180
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,520
Well, there's a whole trend now on the internet too of people giving what they know to be

1181
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,600
wrong advice just to see people like blow themselves up or-

1182
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,600
Big time.

1183
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Like mess something up.

1184
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,520
And so it's like, I mean, I guess-

1185
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:41,520
Big time.

1186
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,200
Well, when you were doing your thermostats and different things, I warned you about that

1187
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,960
because that is definitely with the trades, that's definitely a thing.

1188
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,600
Like yeah, let's tell this guy to wire it this way and that way he's going to have to

1189
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,400
rip his fucking walls out.

1190
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,400
Yeah.

1191
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,320
It'll never work.

1192
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:05,040
Well, I told you about that one guy when I, because I had to get a lower amperage air

1193
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,040
compressor.

1194
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,040
Yep.

1195
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:11,240
I had listed mine for sale and I was like, yeah, the max amperage is the same as the

1196
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:12,240
breaker.

1197
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:16,000
And one guy messaged me, he's like, you know, you could just put in a bigger breaker on

1198
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,200
that thing, you know, like in your breaker box.

1199
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,080
And I didn't even bother like responding to it because you and I already talked about

1200
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,080
that.

1201
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,960
I have to change all the wires out here, you know, to get the bigger amperage.

1202
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:27,960
So-

1203
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:28,960
Unless you want to burn it down.

1204
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:29,960
That's a good way to do it.

1205
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:30,960
Yeah, which I don't, which I don't.

1206
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,960
So-

1207
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:32,960
Yeah, in the state of Minnesota.

1208
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:33,960
You have to have a little bit of discretion.

1209
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,960
Yeah.

1210
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:35,960
Oh yeah.

1211
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,160
Yeah, it's a lot more discretion with the internet than you do with books sometimes.

1212
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,160
Oh yeah.

1213
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:47,680
I'll, this is a total aside, but when I was going to school, there was a guy who dropped

1214
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,760
out of the program and he was ancient.

1215
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,560
He, I don't know why he thought he was going to do the apprenticeship program.

1216
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:53,560
He was already retired.

1217
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,880
He's like in the sixties.

1218
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:55,880
Yeah.

1219
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,880
So he got pushed out for obvious reasons, right?

1220
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,120
You don't want a 60 year old first year apprentice or whatever.

1221
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:06,400
So he went over to the Home Depot and he was running their electrical department.

1222
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,220
And so you go to these stores and the, so you go to the plumbing section on there's

1223
00:58:10,220 --> 00:58:12,200
a plumbing expert at Home Depot.

1224
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,960
It's like, is that just a failed apprentice?

1225
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,960
Like who is that guy?

1226
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:16,960
You know what?

1227
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,600
Maybe he was a licensed plumber.

1228
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,560
He wouldn't be in the fricking plumbing section giving you advice at Home Depot.

1229
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,560
It's just Tim.

1230
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,560
Yeah.

1231
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,560
Like what?

1232
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:30,960
One of my favorite stores doesn't have, they got like books, but I would never buy a book

1233
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,720
there as micro center.

1234
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:37,360
They got all the computer stuff I would need, even though now I mostly buy my computer stuff

1235
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,800
online because it's cheaper than there.

1236
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,160
But sometimes their stuff is really good and really cheap.

1237
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,280
Then if I need it the same day or if I want to go pick it out myself, that's where I go.

1238
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,000
And they've got a bunch of 3d printing stuff.

1239
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,640
So I go there quite a bit and I just like looking at all the technology.

1240
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,680
But one time I was looking for something and they've got the people on the floor, right?

1241
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,680
And they're like, Hey, yeah.

1242
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,280
Oh, you know, what are you looking for?

1243
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,760
And I'm like, well, I'm looking for this.

1244
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,840
And he's like, okay, well, you want this one then?

1245
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,240
And they put their name sticker right on the thing, right?

1246
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,760
So they get the commission for the sale.

1247
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,000
Like, Hey, I was helped by so and so.

1248
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,280
And I'm like, yeah, but what about this?

1249
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,080
He's like, Oh, no, no, that's not even a thing.

1250
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,720
Like, this is really what you want.

1251
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,680
And trust me, I know because I like I work here and I'm like, dude, I just spent like

1252
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,800
six hours researching this thing.

1253
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,720
And what you're telling me is false.

1254
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:20,980
And so I will not buy that.

1255
00:59:20,980 --> 00:59:25,440
So you know, sometimes you got to realize that the people in the stores are not really

1256
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,560
experts on anything other than making a sale.

1257
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:28,560
Oh, for sure.

1258
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:34,520
And I have one of my favorite things to do is to do the research before I go in.

1259
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,840
So I know what I want.

1260
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,160
And then I'll talk.

1261
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,600
They want to talk to you.

1262
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,240
So I'll talk to the clerk or whoever.

1263
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,240
Like I don't know anything.

1264
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:47,160
And I'm like judging their level of knowledge about what I am specifically looking for.

1265
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,160
Yes.

1266
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:54,080
And I do it a lot at the electrical section of the, you know, the stores that you go to

1267
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,440
because these guys are, you know, my name is Jim Bob.

1268
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:02,600
And I am running this electrical and I'm the manager for the electrical department

1269
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,600
and blah, blah, blah.

1270
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:09,400
And I'm looking for like I was in there looking for a battleship, which is like a little part

1271
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:16,720
that you add to a box for after putting boxes and walls that are already built.

1272
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,600
And he had no idea what a battleship was.

1273
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,560
I'm like, just show me where it is.

1274
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,760
And I described the part and he brought me there.

1275
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:28,040
And it's like, how the fuck is this guy running this electrical department as the manager?

1276
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:34,400
He doesn't know about these parts that you need to do wiring in walls that are already

1277
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,400
up.

1278
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,400
You know, like, yeah, not that.

1279
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,800
I mean, again, they're not going to get like legitimate professionals in the HVAC department

1280
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,240
of your Menards, you know, unless they were retiree potentially.

1281
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,240
Right.

1282
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,880
I saw a good I think you'll appreciate this.

1283
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:53,960
I saw a good meme and it was it was like from a waiter.

1284
01:00:53,960 --> 01:01:01,000
And the waiter was like, man, I love it when my table is like, well, this meal was phenomenal.

1285
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,600
You please give my compliments to the chef.

1286
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,680
And the waiter is like, what the chef doesn't know or what the customer doesn't know is

1287
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,800
the chef is just some guy, Chad, who's strung out on Coke and he's in high school.

1288
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,000
Like he's not some chef.

1289
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,080
He's just the chef.

1290
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,440
You know, like he's not, you know, it's just some guy back there strung out on Coke.

1291
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:24,240
It doesn't mean he knows how to, you know, do all the stuff you would do in like a fancy

1292
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,680
like New York thing.

1293
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,920
But the guy's like, but sure, I'll go tell him.

1294
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,680
Yeah, that's some just overworked, underpaid guy back there, you know.

1295
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:34,680
Right.

1296
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:35,680
Yeah.

1297
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,820
Like I worked at restaurants, as you know, and it's like, yeah, yeah.

1298
01:01:37,820 --> 01:01:41,320
The reason why it tastes so good is number one, you did not make it.

1299
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,080
And number two, salt.

1300
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:48,960
It's got more salt and more fat and more sugar than you would ever put in anything that you

1301
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,480
made at home because they don't give a fuck.

1302
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,480
That's not their job.

1303
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:53,480
Caring is not their job.

1304
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:54,480
Absolutely not.

1305
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,480
No.

1306
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:56,480
Yeah.

1307
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,600
We put in a whole pack of Costco butter in this dish.

1308
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,040
That's like 12 sticks of butter.

1309
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,040
Of course it's good.

1310
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,040
Yeah.

1311
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,840
The refried beans taste so good because they put actual tubs of lard into it.

1312
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,120
You know, of course it's wonderful.

1313
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,000
And you know, a pound of salt.

1314
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,000
Yeah.

1315
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,640
It's a good job.

1316
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,440
So talking about battleships and stuff, if I wanted to put, and this has nothing to do

1317
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:18,440
with bookstores.

1318
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,640
So for the listener, this is just a freebie.

1319
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:26,800
If I wanted to put a ceiling fan in a bedroom that only has a light right now, do I have

1320
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,320
to run a whole separate wire or do the ceiling fans have something where I can like just

1321
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:32,840
put a double switch in or something?

1322
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,380
Or how does that work?

1323
01:02:34,380 --> 01:02:38,040
So you have a light and it runs off a switch, right?

1324
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,040
Yeah.

1325
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,040
Okay.

1326
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,040
You can take the light down.

1327
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,120
You have to inspect the box.

1328
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:48,700
If they put a box that is fan rated, you're good to go and you can mount it to that.

1329
01:02:48,700 --> 01:02:54,600
If not, you need to take a look and see how the box is mounted because in order to run

1330
01:02:54,600 --> 01:03:01,280
a ceiling fan, you have to have a ceiling box that's rated for fan use.

1331
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:06,200
Given the age of your house, probably not going to happen.

1332
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,480
But you can modify that.

1333
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:13,320
There's ways you can get aftermarket or not aftermarket, but you can get boxes to where

1334
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,400
you can pull out the old one and put in a new one, especially if it's directly mounted

1335
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,120
to like a wood joist.

1336
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:25,300
If it's upstairs, you're going to have to potentially deal with insulation and pushing

1337
01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:27,360
insulation around and things like that.

1338
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:33,120
It's not impossible by any means, but you're going to want to make darn sure that the box

1339
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:37,920
that you have is going to be rated for it because otherwise your ceiling fan will wobble

1340
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,040
and fall on whoever's standing underneath it.

1341
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,040
Yeah.

1342
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,040
Yeah.

1343
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,040
Yeah.

1344
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:46,880
So would you have to run a new secondary wire?

1345
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,760
No, no, you shouldn't have to.

1346
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:49,760
No, no, no.

1347
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,760
You're going to have to get a fan that's rated.

1348
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:58,200
The motors are going to have to be rated low enough for the circuit, but new fans have

1349
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,120
DC motors and they're great.

1350
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:07,560
They're way better than the, you're thinking like the big AC motor fans.

1351
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,680
There might even be some fans that are light enough to where you could get by.

1352
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:12,680
You know what I mean?

1353
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:13,680
Yeah.

1354
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:14,680
Depends on.

1355
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,840
I was just thinking about sometimes the fan and the light are on separate switches.

1356
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:18,840
Yeah.

1357
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,840
Yeah.

1358
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,840
You really would have to.

1359
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,960
The fans, you turn the thing on and you pull the chain, right?

1360
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,840
And it's either you can turn the light on, you can turn the fan on.

1361
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:26,840
There's that.

1362
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:31,080
The new fans, what I'm thinking of is that they're almost, they're not a smart fan.

1363
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,160
They're DC fan and they have a remote.

1364
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:34,160
Yeah.

1365
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,160
Okay.

1366
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,160
Yeah.

1367
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,440
They have a remote that runs on battery and they're pretty slick.

1368
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:43,640
They're pretty slick and some of them might be light enough to where, you know, if you

1369
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:49,000
have like a 35 pound rated box, you get away with boning it, you know, potentially.

1370
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:50,000
Yeah.

1371
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,000
Does it just say on the box?

1372
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,000
Yeah.

1373
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,560
You should be able to see it in the box, especially if you have a plastic box, you know, you'd

1374
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:56,920
have to look at it.

1375
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,240
And I mean, if you have like a steel box up there and it's like sturdy.

1376
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,240
Yeah.

1377
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,240
You're probably good to go.

1378
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,800
You know, it all depends on what you have.

1379
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:11,080
You'd have to open it up and see because your house has like a mixture of old and new stuff,

1380
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,160
you know?

1381
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:17,640
So a modern box would be rated for 50 pounds or higher with like fan rating.

1382
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:18,640
Okay.

1383
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,640
Yeah.

1384
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:20,640
Yeah.

1385
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,040
At least that's my, you know, my knowledge of house fixtures and house components is

1386
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,040
very limited.

1387
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,040
Yeah.

1388
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,040
Well, a fan would be like a live load.

1389
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,040
Yeah.

1390
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:34,320
I would say you'd get like the new DC fans are so efficient.

1391
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,560
It's just like LED lights, you know?

1392
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,840
You don't even do lighting calculations anymore from what I understand.

1393
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,040
Yeah.

1394
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,360
The lights are crazy.

1395
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,080
I replaced all the lights in the basement because remember it was flickering.

1396
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:53,480
I bought these like superior dim ability ones, but they're pretty cheap still and they're

1397
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,480
all LED, you know?

1398
01:05:54,480 --> 01:06:01,840
But yeah, it's like, I remember when you would buy the incandescence and you'd have to be

1399
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:02,840
like, okay, okay, okay.

1400
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:03,840
I'm replacing a 60.

1401
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:04,840
So I have to get a 60.

1402
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:09,280
I can't go up to a hundred because it'll blow or it won't light or it won't be brighter.

1403
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,400
But with the LEDs, it's like, yeah, you could get a, however many lumens and it draws like

1404
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,240
six Watts or something, you know?

1405
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,240
Yeah.

1406
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:21,960
LEDs change the game and DC motors and stuff have changed the game.

1407
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,480
And a lot of the new houses are not even running AC power for lighting.

1408
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,000
They're running them all in DC circuits from the get go.

1409
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,000
Okay.

1410
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,000
Yeah.

1411
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,000
Yeah.

1412
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,960
They're using like cat five cable, glorified cat five cable.

1413
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,040
So it's pretty cool.

1414
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,960
Within the industry, electricians are like, oh, they're going to run us out of business.

1415
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:41,960
Blah, blah, blah.

1416
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,840
It's like, nah, dude, you just have to learn how to do this new thing.

1417
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:45,840
That's all, you know?

1418
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:46,840
Not a big deal.

1419
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,840
Yeah.

1420
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:48,840
So it's, it's energy.

1421
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:54,680
Well, no matter how easy things get, people still won't do them and we'll want to pay

1422
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,320
somebody else to do them for them.

1423
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:57,320
So.

1424
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,320
All right.

1425
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,400
My cigar went out with like an inch and a half left.

1426
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,200
I'm trying to relight it.

1427
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,840
I was trying to relight it.

1428
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:07,040
Yeah, I'm just, I think I got about an inch and a half left.

1429
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,560
I'm probably right there with you.

1430
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:09,560
Yep.

1431
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:10,560
I can't remember.

1432
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,920
Your light fixtures are old, aren't they?

1433
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:13,920
The overheads?

1434
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,480
I don't know.

1435
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,000
I feel like all the light fixtures of the contractor special because it was bank owned

1436
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,480
and then the contractors came in and they put in the, the tan carpet.

1437
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,080
That's the contractor special carpet.

1438
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,080
Sure.

1439
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,600
And they put in the contractor special boob light in every room.

1440
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,920
So you might get lucky.

1441
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,720
You might've gotten lucky and they may have already put in good boxes.

1442
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:33,720
Yeah.

1443
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:40,240
So they, I know they redid everything outside of that room in the basement with the electrical

1444
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,080
box in it, the breaker box in it.

1445
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:43,080
Yep.

1446
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:47,040
And it's the only room of the house that has two prong outlets with no ground, but everything

1447
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:48,900
else is grounded.

1448
01:07:48,900 --> 01:07:54,800
So I feel like everything else should be up to code, but I'd have to take one down and

1449
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:55,800
see.

1450
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,340
But yeah, we were just talking cause it's been so hot this summer and we have a little

1451
01:07:58,340 --> 01:08:02,380
fan in our bedroom, but it'd be nice to have a ceiling fan because it's much more efficient

1452
01:08:02,380 --> 01:08:04,120
moving of the air, you know?

1453
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,120
Oh, sure.

1454
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,120
Yeah.

1455
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,560
Reverse it for winter to get a better heating.

1456
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:09,560
So yep.

1457
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:10,560
Yeah.

1458
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:11,560
Those are the DC fans.

1459
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:12,560
Those are pretty slick.

1460
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,840
I'm getting two for my smoking room here.

1461
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:16,840
Oh yeah.

1462
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:17,840
That'd be nice.

1463
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:18,840
Yeah, absolutely.

1464
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:24,560
One of my friends, they have a, there's a fan that you can screw into a light socket

1465
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,520
and that's what they put in their garage when the garage was too hot.

1466
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:28,520
Sure.

1467
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,720
And it has a light on it, but it also has a fan on it and it just runs off the light

1468
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:32,720
socket.

1469
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:39,120
So I was like, cause you helped me and we capped cause our garage had a one bulb in

1470
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:45,480
it and then I bought the, the two LEDs strips to get more light in here, but that box is

1471
01:08:45,480 --> 01:08:49,400
still there so I could put another, I could just convert it back to a light fixture and

1472
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,560
put a little fan up there too, if I wanted.

1473
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,280
Oh yeah, for sure.

1474
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,280
For sure.

1475
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:55,280
So heck yeah.

1476
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,280
Yeah.

1477
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:57,280
The sky is the limit.

1478
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,400
You just have to work with what you have to an extent and be willing to modify.

1479
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:02,400
Yeah.

1480
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,800
And be smart and make sure the power is off and use the tester to make sure the power

1481
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:07,800
is off.

1482
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:08,800
Right.

1483
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:09,800
Absolutely.

1484
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,200
With your fan switching and stuff like that, it's pretty easy to tell if it's off.

1485
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,200
Oh yeah.

1486
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,200
So.

1487
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:17,200
Yes, indeed.

1488
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,880
Well, I don't know that I have anything else bookstore related.

1489
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,160
No, I don't.

1490
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:29,080
Like I say, I like to use bookstores and if you're in tourist country, these antique shops,

1491
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:34,640
a lot of them have book sections and or the antique stores will have books randomly shoved

1492
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:39,320
in because they'll have like this section is seller 123.

1493
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:40,320
They'll have like.

1494
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,040
Yeah, they have the consignment stalls or whatever.

1495
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,040
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1496
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,640
They'll have like bookshelves in there.

1497
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,640
Some of those are pretty good.

1498
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:46,640
Yeah.

1499
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:47,640
You know, here and there.

1500
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,640
Yep.

1501
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:53,680
But I don't get to go to fancy bookstores in New York, Nate.

1502
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,720
You could if you would just come with me.

1503
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:56,720
I know I could.

1504
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:02,560
I think one season we should do like nice ashes on the road and we should just go to

1505
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,760
different places for every episode.

1506
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:10,360
Well, yeah, you know, when the show takes off after we get our yacht is what I'm saying.

1507
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:11,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1508
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,560
This week, nice ashes in Milan.

1509
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,640
Next week, nice ashes in Thailand.

1510
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,640
Oh man, Thailand.

1511
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,840
The week after that, nice ashes in Jamaica.

1512
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,960
Oh, geez.

1513
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,160
Live from wherever.

1514
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,160
Yeah.

1515
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,160
Melbourne.

1516
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:34,160
It would be fun to go talk to some of these cigar lounges and see if they would let us

1517
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,720
do a podcast there, you know.

1518
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,120
Yeah, it'd be interesting.

1519
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,120
They probably would.

1520
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,120
They would.

1521
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,120
They wouldn't give a shit.

1522
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,120
As long as we bought some cigars, you know.

1523
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:47,680
Yeah, we'd have to buy the sticks.

1524
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,040
Yeah, give them a shout out.

1525
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,000
But that'd be kind of fun on location.

1526
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:57,560
So I'm actually I have like an inch, inch and a quarter left and it's starting to get

1527
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:58,560
sour on me.

1528
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,560
Yeah, I was that's why I'm kind of like, I don't have anything else to say.

1529
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,680
And it was really good up until about now.

1530
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,800
It's still good, but it's got that bitterness that I'm like, that bitterness.

1531
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:15,800
And you know, it was what the Gurkas that we ran into that with almost every stick.

1532
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,440
This isn't as bad as a Gurka.

1533
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:21,280
No, I mean, but it's, you know, it's to be expected on some of these sticks.

1534
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:27,360
So yeah, yeah, you can't have that full body flavor and expect it to be like great when

1535
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:32,240
you get to the last inch on a six inch long cigar, you know.

1536
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,480
So with the other eight Chapmans, which one has been your favorite so far?

1537
01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:37,480
The banker.

1538
01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:38,480
I liked this one.

1539
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:39,640
Yeah, I like the banker.

1540
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,120
And I think like the Cameroon Reserve is really good.

1541
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:43,120
It was good.

1542
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,760
Yeah, I like this one.

1543
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,400
Yeah, this is really good.

1544
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,480
So nice and round and full bodied.

1545
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:49,480
I was really surprised.

1546
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:50,480
Yep.

1547
01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:51,480
Yep.

1548
01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:53,960
Yeah, it was a little like you said, it was a little kind of underwhelming maybe at the

1549
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,520
first first couple of puffs, but it didn't waste any time.

1550
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,440
No, it definitely showed up.

1551
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:01,720
So definitely a thumbs up for me.

1552
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:02,720
Yes.

1553
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:03,720
All right.

1554
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:04,720
Well, thanks for listening.

1555
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:05,720
Be safe.

1556
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:23,920
I out.