1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,720 Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Nate. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,840 And I am Mike. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,080 What are we smoking today, Nate? 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,720 Well, we are not continuing the Saison series. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,440 We are continuing the H. Upman 1844 series. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,640 This is the H. Upman Reserve. 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,920 We smoked the H. Upman Reserve Cameroon last episode. 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,720 And this is just the straight reserve. 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Yes, and this is a little bit darker. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,480 It is moderately darker, not drastically darker. 11 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:40,800 No, they're very similar. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,320 And the stick looks good. 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,520 Oh, yeah, it's great. 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,960 It smells great. 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,640 Yep, mine smells really good. 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,320 It's got some veins in it. 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,240 Yep, yep, it's a veiny bastard. 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,680 It is a veiny bastard. 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,120 I'm going to light this up. 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,560 I really enjoyed the Cameroon from last episode. 21 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,880 It was nice, it was pleasant all the way through. 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,840 It was. 23 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:00,720 It was. 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,080 I think you liked it more than I did. 25 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:02,960 You know what? 26 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,760 That's probably true. 27 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,480 I enjoyed it. 28 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,040 But I disliked the undershades more than you did. 29 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,040 So maybe it was part of the psychology of I need to like something more than Mike. 30 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,520 But it was an inoffensive stick. 31 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,640 It was nice. 32 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,960 It had a good taste and a good flavor. 33 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:21,360 It was constant all the way through, all the way up until my fingers started getting warm. 34 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,760 So what more do you want in a stick? 35 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,480 I agree. 36 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:25,120 It was good. 37 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,600 We're off air, we were talking about the Series R. And that's a great stick. 38 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,240 Oh, yeah. 39 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,480 I don't know that I'm going to go out and buy a bunch of H. Uphman Cameroon Reserves. 40 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,360 But if somebody was like, you know, hey, I'm interested in smoking some cigars. 41 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,040 Like what's a good place to start? 42 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Like the H. Uphman Cameroon Reserve probably isn't a bad place to start. 43 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,240 No, this has got a good start as well. 44 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,200 So this has a great start to begin with. 45 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,440 You know, I mean, you know, sometimes it's like cigars are situational. 46 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,040 And we've talked about this on the show. 47 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,120 Like, oh, if I'm going to mow the lawn, I'm not going to smoke a Series R. 48 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,960 Or if I'm at a bonfire with some buddies, am I going to smoke a Series R? 49 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,680 If we're going to go and like do shots later or anytime, you know, like, I don't know, like, 50 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,800 maybe I'll do a Dark Shark. 51 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,920 Maybe I'll do a Shrew. 52 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:16,560 Maybe I'll do a HP Cameroon, you know, that HP. 53 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,080 I was thinking of the HP Lovecraft again. 54 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:18,720 I'm sorry. 55 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,840 Yeah, like that that last cigar and this one to possibly be a good one for on the lake 56 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,080 or on a golf course. 57 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,800 You know, you just got a couple of them, you know, and it's like, 58 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,240 yeah, if I put it out, I put it out. 59 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,040 If I don't, I don't, you know, but it's it's good all the way through. 60 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,640 So we have another interesting topic and this one, 61 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:41,040 I know a few people who are listening are excited for this one, strangely enough. 62 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:45,280 I know, I know it was a listener suggested. 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:51,040 So we have a new grassroots campaigning, Mike, marketing, some grassroots marketing. 64 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,040 I have I got us some new listeners and all that fancy stuff. 65 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,520 So that was my one of my goals, I guess. 66 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,200 Yes. 67 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,400 So what are we talking about? 68 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,920 So I'm not going to bury the lead on this. 69 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,960 So what I'm going to do here is I'm going to tell a little story. 70 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:15,280 So, as you know, we have a dog and we take this dog to various locations, 71 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:22,240 a dog parks and at one of these dog parks, there's a gentleman that started talking to me 72 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:28,480 and he handed me a business card and I love those people, by the way. 73 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,280 Oh, yes. 74 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,720 On the backside, it says Minnesota State Assembly. 75 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,320 Think you are a US citizen? 76 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Probably not. 77 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,360 Think you are a citizen of the United States? 78 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,240 Probably not. 79 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,560 You are an American state national. 80 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,760 Correct your status. 81 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,520 Join your state assembly. 82 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:48,320 And it's got a couple of websites and these three websites are going to come up 83 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,960 quite often because I got a lot of information off of one of them. 84 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:58,880 And then the other one is one of these gurus of this movement. 85 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,120 Was one of them Amway? 86 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,720 No, it was not. 87 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,560 It was not. 88 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:15,440 So we call these people sovereign citizens, but the sovereign citizens themselves do not call 89 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,120 themselves sovereign citizens. 90 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,280 They consider it to be an oxymoron. 91 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:22,400 They call themselves state nationalists. 92 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,560 Wait, was this person from Texas? 93 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,040 No, this person that I'm going to be talking about quite a bit is from Alaska. 94 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,600 Are they the one that is now listening to this? 95 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,280 No, no, no, no, no. 96 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,160 The person who the people who are looking forward to it are Minnesotans. 97 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:46,560 Okay. 98 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Were they the people that we were shooting with the other day? 99 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:50,400 Okay. 100 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,200 I thought so. 101 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:51,680 Yes. 102 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,320 Yes, they were. 103 00:04:52,320 --> 00:05:00,720 So the sovereign citizens or the state nationals, they consider sovereign citizen to be an 104 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,240 oxymoronical slur. 105 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:12,880 And yes, they don't consider state national to be an oxymoron because, well, we'll get into that. 106 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,920 Even though I would consider. 107 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,360 I mean, yeah, I understand where you're coming from. 108 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,400 I understand where they're coming from. 109 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:23,440 Like, constitutionally speaking, the powers not designated to the federal government are 110 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,720 relegated to the states. 111 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:30,080 So, I mean, I guess I get that portion of it, but it's awfully hard to prove legally. 112 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:30,640 You know what I mean? 113 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,520 Oh, I certainly do. 114 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,400 I certainly do. 115 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,880 It gets pretty deep in the bullshit on this. 116 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,040 Well, buckle up. 117 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,080 We're going into the weeds. 118 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,240 We are going into the weeds. 119 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:50,160 So for those who don't know about the sovereign citizens, look it up on YouTube and you'll see 120 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:56,160 Internet videos of people getting the shit kicked out of them by cops for not having license 121 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:03,360 plates and not having drivers licenses and driving their cars around or there being a 122 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,160 trial because they're not paying taxes or child support. 123 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:13,280 And their claim is that if they file paperwork that they don't have to pay taxes or child 124 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:18,880 support or have drivers licenses or pay tabs and stuff, which is total garbage. 125 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Yes. 126 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:26,880 So I mean, I guess like and maybe you're going to talk about this, but there are legitimate 127 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:33,600 sovereign citizens that have done and filed the paperwork to become thusly so. 128 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:33,920 Right. 129 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,400 No, no. 130 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,520 So what about diplomatic immunity or some shit like that? 131 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,920 People who have diplomatic immunity are not American nationals, right? 132 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:50,960 Diplomatic immunity is for agents of a foreign government that are protected so that they can 133 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,440 negotiate treaties and things like that. 134 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,760 Yeah, they're not underage children in our right. 135 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,160 They're here on governmental missions. 136 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,600 Yeah, they're not American citizens or sovereign citizens. 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,800 Well, a lot of this would necessarily be American citizens. 138 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:14,160 They would just be an individual person, but then they're not they're not entitled to the 139 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,640 same protections of the Constitution, yada yada. 140 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,200 Right. 141 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:22,960 Like they would totally get a one way ticket to Gitmo and have a fun time waterboarding. 142 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:23,200 Right. 143 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:26,720 I guess so. 144 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,240 They don't have a constitution. 145 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,680 They're not part of the Geneva Convention. 146 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,000 Isn't that what they did? 147 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,480 Isn't that what Bush and Obama did with Gitmo? 148 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,280 Is they said all these people, all these terrorists were sovereign citizens and they 149 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,040 weren't part of the government. 150 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,160 So they labeled them as sovereign citizens so they could waterboard the shit out of them. 151 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:48,800 My understanding is that they labeled them as terrorists and they made an exemption in 152 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,040 the Patriot Act that if you're picked up in a war zone where they're fighting the war on terror, 153 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:00,080 as long as they don't bring you to the United States soil, they can torture you more or less. 154 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,880 So like Gitmo is not on US soil. 155 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,080 It's a military base that's on in Cuba. 156 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:06,400 Right. 157 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,920 And they have a couple other bases. 158 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,960 Which is US soil for all the right reasons and not US soil for all the wrong reasons. 159 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:13,120 Right. 160 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,400 It's like Abu Ghraib. 161 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:14,640 Right. 162 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:14,960 Yeah. 163 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,240 Like it's a military base. 164 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,520 It's not US soil. 165 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,480 Even though if you're born on it as an American, then you are an American citizen. 166 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:22,640 Yeah. 167 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,200 That sort of thing. 168 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,800 Like I said, it's American soil when it's convenient and not when it's not. 169 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:27,760 Right. 170 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:28,800 Right. 171 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,360 Right. 172 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:35,280 So I searched this website and I did some research obviously outside of their website. 173 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,560 Yeah. 174 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:42,560 And what I found, and we're going to talk about the individuals, but the propaganda itself is 175 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,480 largely a handful of people. 176 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:53,600 And I looked at one woman's website and it's all psychobabble and legalese that sounds really good. 177 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:00,880 And some of it has some references to real laws in the past. 178 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:01,280 Yeah. 179 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,360 But it's only the first part. 180 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:03,600 Yeah. 181 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,880 It's like the first part. 182 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,920 And we'll talk about specific instances like why they think they don't have to pay fucking income 183 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:17,680 tax and why they think that the American flag is not the American flag and why they think they 184 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:21,440 don't need a passport and why they think they don't need a driver's license. 185 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:25,680 All this stuff. 186 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:31,360 I mean, to be fair, there's no constitutional precedent for having a driver's license 187 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,960 or concealed carry license or any kind of license. 188 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:35,440 That's true. 189 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,480 But we do. 190 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,320 But we do. 191 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:38,480 Yeah. 192 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:38,960 That's right. 193 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:39,520 I mean, you know. 194 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:40,880 Right. 195 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,240 So the sovereign citizens. 196 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,360 I'm interested. 197 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:43,760 Yeah. 198 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:49,680 Sovereign citizens basically believe that if they fill out this paperwork on this website and they 199 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:56,800 send it to random government officials in each of the 50 state governments, then they are no longer 200 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,480 required to follow all the rules that we have to, more or less. 201 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,520 Classic. 202 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:10,880 And this is the people who are running this, like Anna Maria Reitzinger, aka Anna von Reitz, aka 203 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:11,680 Judge Anna. 204 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,720 She's paying her taxes, right? 205 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:15,600 She has to be. 206 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,760 She doesn't want to go to jail, dude. 207 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,360 She doesn't want to go to jail. 208 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:28,960 So this Anna von Reitz, aka Anna Reitzinger, who claims to be a judge of a common law 209 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:34,960 court in Alaska, which is not real, by the way, isn't real, dude. 210 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,080 She is not a judge. 211 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,560 There she is not a judge. 212 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,080 Her judgeship. 213 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,080 OK, I thought you were like Alaska is in the thing and it was some kind of like, you know. 214 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:44,320 Yeah. 215 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,280 Well, it's a scam. 216 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,720 It's kind of like Antarctica. 217 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,040 Yeah. 218 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:47,280 Yeah. 219 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,720 Exists doesn't exist. 220 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,120 The earth is not round. 221 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:51,760 I mean, come on. 222 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,440 Of course, it's fucking flat. 223 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,480 We are not round earth shills on this show. 224 00:10:57,680 --> 00:10:58,560 Absolutely not. 225 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:01,280 I fell off the edge of the world twice. 226 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,000 Come on. 227 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,080 Did I tell you about having a conversation? 228 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,640 I have a friend who's a pilot and I asked him about. 229 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:07,040 Yeah. 230 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,440 All right. 231 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:08,720 I'm not going to tell the story again. 232 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:09,360 No, tell it now. 233 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:09,920 Tell it now. 234 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:10,400 I want to hear. 235 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:16,480 OK, so I go on a fishing trip every year and one of the guys I know is a pilot and he owns a plane. 236 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,720 He actually lives in a plane hangar. 237 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,560 He turned his he bought a hangar. 238 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:26,000 He turned it into his house and he flies a plane as like his major pastime hobby. 239 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,000 And he had never heard of the flat earth conspiracy theory. 240 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,800 And he looked at me like I was an idiot. 241 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,400 And he asked me why I'm like looking at all this dumb shit on the Internet. 242 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Then he explained for 15 minutes about how the earth is round and how he can prove it. 243 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:42,480 Yeah. 244 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,600 There are pilots who fly and still believe in flat earth. 245 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:50,560 My favorite. 246 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:58,480 One of my favorite things is people that say the moon landing in 19, what was it, 68 was CGI. 247 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:07,840 And then they show 40 some years later from Scorpion King, like the Mummy Scorpion King. 248 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,160 And you're CGI in like 2004 and it looks terrible. 249 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:17,440 It's like how would they how could anybody do this in the 60s or 70s, even the 80s? 250 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,680 Like there's no way they could see the guy. 251 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:21,200 See the fucking moon. 252 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,920 It's a little insane. 253 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,320 My buddy said that when he plots courses, he flies a lot. 254 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,640 A hundred and thirty mile trip back and forth. 255 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,080 Yeah, pretty commonly. 256 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,560 And he'll set it all up on his instruments and set it into autopilot. 257 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:41,840 And he said that part of it is he has to take in terrain and the curvature of the earth 258 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,760 to plot his course so the plane doesn't fly too high. 259 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,640 And he basically fucks his plane up after like it was flat. 260 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,040 You wouldn't ever have to change altitude, right? 261 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:53,520 Right. 262 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,800 Or you'd constantly it would stay constant for you. 263 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,080 You would just say, hey, I'm here. 264 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:58,320 Right. 265 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,320 Straight like driving on a highway. 266 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,360 Like you don't exactly. 267 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,520 And he's he's flown several hundred miles on a trip. 268 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,080 Yeah. 269 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:09,200 And he's like, the longer it is, you know, the more of this calculation has to has to 270 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,400 make your arc so that you don't get too high in the ozone and your engine doesn't run out 271 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,000 of oxygen, basically. 272 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Yeah. 273 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,440 And burn stuff up. 274 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,760 I feel like the government just pre-programs that value into all aircraft, right? 275 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,520 So that they're perpetuating. 276 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,440 He does not have a modern plane. 277 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,720 I'm just fucking with you, dude. 278 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:27,200 OK. 279 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,800 I'm sure that I'm like. 280 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:29,440 Yeah. 281 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:30,000 Yeah. 282 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:30,800 Oh, yeah. 283 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,360 Yeah. 284 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,320 It's all a lie. 285 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:32,880 Yeah. 286 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:33,920 That's all a lie. 287 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,320 So my Minecraft world is flat. 288 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,000 So this one has to be right. 289 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:38,960 Well, exactly. 290 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,800 I mean, we live in a simulation. 291 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,760 Yeah. 292 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:47,680 Yeah, so anyway, these sovereign citizens are creating a shadow government that they 293 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:50,000 call the state assemblies. 294 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,480 Have you heard of these state assemblies? 295 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:58,000 You can't see this, but I'm doing the Mitch McConnell. 296 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:07,360 So these state nationalists have created a series of what they call state assemblies 297 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:13,280 and common law courts based on land law or law of the land. 298 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:20,240 And they have the sovereign martial service and all these not. 299 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,280 They're governmental organizations in very strong parentheses, right? 300 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,960 That these state nationals voluntarily do. 301 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,720 And of course, this. 302 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,680 When you said they do this, my first thought was like, so they're doing the law of the 303 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:40,080 land and my first thought was so they're doing like plantation owner law. 304 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,680 So this is an exact quote. 305 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,680 Oh, no. 306 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,680 Let's see here. 307 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,640 I try. 308 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,640 Yeah, here we go. 309 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,760 You have law for people and you have law for corporations. 310 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,320 The American common law is a law that owed that is owed the people and maritime and 311 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,520 admiralty law. 312 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,760 This is owed to corporations and federal citizens who are employees of the federal government. 313 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:11,360 Global law is to keep the peace, to respect free will within the parameters of each individual 314 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,960 so that I am not impressing my will on you and to treat others as you would like to be 315 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,920 treated. 316 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,160 American common law is the law of the land based on the biblical Ten Commandments. 317 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,400 It was adopted because basically the Ten Commandments were acceptable to both the Jews and to the 318 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,440 Gentiles. 319 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,880 And that's why they basically arrived at that conclusion that everybody agreed these 320 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,920 were ten things nobody should do. 321 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,920 You know, I mean, they had me until they said biblical law, I guess. 322 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,120 Well, I mean, like, so let's just I don't really want to be playing devil's advocate 323 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,920 this whole time because you've researched this and stuff. 324 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,320 But like, isn't that the dream, though? 325 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:48,720 Right. 326 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Like we've talked about it before. 327 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:56,080 Like, in my opinion, your right to swing your fist ends when your fist hits my face. 328 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:56,560 Right. 329 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,640 So like in even last episode, you're like, oh, people want to do heroin, like as long 330 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:06,080 as they're consenting adults and know the risks and everything like, yeah, heroin shouldn't 331 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:06,720 be illegal. 332 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:07,840 Like you should be able to go do that. 333 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,480 You should be able to go like whatever, like who gives a fuck? 334 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,240 You should be able to do it as long as you're of age and you've got the information and 335 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:14,640 stuff. 336 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,240 So like, sure. 337 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,200 I mean, I get it. 338 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,000 I get the appeal. 339 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:24,720 Like who wants to be told by the government what is or isn't acceptable in your life? 340 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:30,800 Especially if you're a loser who can't follow the rules of society like a normal person. 341 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Well, I mean, I guess it depends on your definition of loser and depends on your definition of 342 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:36,800 the laws. 343 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,600 You know, like should we have to pay income tax when Jeff Bezos doesn't? 344 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,960 I don't know. 345 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:43,760 Should I? 346 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,440 Well, that goes back to the story of how all this got started. 347 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Yeah, Jeff Bezos. 348 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,000 Not Jeff Bezos. 349 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,320 It was Nelson Rockefeller, actually. 350 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,520 OK, so this so let me finish my other thought real quick. 351 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,000 Yeah. 352 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,680 Should I have to drink out of a paper straw when Bill Gates is jetting around on his fucking 353 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,480 private jet? 354 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:03,760 You know what I mean? 355 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,680 Like I mean, like so I'm not saying that these people are sane. 356 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,640 I'm just saying like the base tenant up until the Ten Commandments. 357 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,880 I mean, like, of course, like most of the Ten Commandments, except for like don't take 358 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:17,840 the Lord's name in vain. 359 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:18,960 Like fuck that bitch. 360 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:19,520 Right. 361 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,560 But like, you know, don't covet your neighbor's wife. 362 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,840 Don't kill people. 363 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:24,960 Don't be a giant dickwad. 364 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,160 Basically, you know, I'm not going to steal people. 365 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,840 You know, like most of those are fine. 366 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,440 Like that's that's perfectly rational, perfectly rational. 367 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,560 But I don't know that everybody's agreed to them for one. 368 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,320 But you could just say like golden rule instead of saying Ten Commandments. 369 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,320 Like, oh, everybody agrees with the golden rule. 370 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,760 And I know that's like a biblical thing. 371 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:44,320 Right. 372 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,720 But you could just say like, treat people how you want to be treated. 373 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,600 That's fine. It's no big deal. 374 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,000 Sure. And that's, you know, that's that's how a lot of people get hooked into this, 375 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,320 is that some of it does make sense. 376 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:02,640 And it does sound very legalese like you mean just enough of it makes sense for the average idiot. 377 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:06,000 People who believe this are not the average idiot. 378 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,840 They are less than the average idiot. 379 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:11,200 I'm trying to be nice. 380 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,920 I am not being nice. 381 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:20,480 People who believe this stuff, who are convinced by the idea that the federal government is running on 382 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:27,520 maritime law and that if you declare yourself a national sovereign and don't recognize the legitimacy 383 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:33,600 of the corporate entity that is the United States, that you're somehow exempt from following the law, 384 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,560 traffic laws like that's idiotic. 385 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,160 Can I clarify one thing? 386 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:38,720 Yes. 387 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,840 Did you say maritime law or maritime law? 388 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,200 Maritime law. Maritime law. 389 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,720 Like maritime, like M-E-R-R-Y time. 390 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,440 Well, maritime law. 391 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,440 Well, I've got a whole slew of things I'm going to do. 392 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,000 No, maritime law. 393 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,200 I don't fuck with you. 394 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:57,920 I fuck with you. 395 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:58,240 Yeah. 396 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,360 Like you said you like pronounce it like maritime law. 397 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:02,480 And I was like, I know. 398 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,680 Shit. Is that some new law? 399 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,640 I'm not familiar with. 400 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,680 Like I could be Mary. 401 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:11,280 I've been diving into this and most of it is so moronic that I like can't. 402 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:16,400 I can't even explain what they're trying to say because they're not saying anything. 403 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,080 They're using this. 404 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,480 Anna Reitzinger is just using fancy terminology. 405 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:28,080 She uses a lot of $10 words to say nothing because the fact is if you don't pay your 406 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,280 income tax, they are going to come and put you in prison. 407 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:32,960 That's a fact. 408 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,120 Right. 409 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:39,360 I mean, that's like that's literally the only kind of debt imprisonment that's still legal in America. 410 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:43,200 Like that's not true because if you don't pay your child support, they can put you in prison 411 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,440 if it goes over $20,000. 412 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,680 Yeah. So it's child support and taxes. 413 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,320 But otherwise, if you don't pay your medical bills, they can't put you in prison. 414 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,960 If you don't pay your quicker bills, they can't put you in prison. 415 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:58,000 So, you know, like maybe don't listen to somebody who says don't pay your taxes. 416 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,200 I don't know. 417 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,040 I mean, they don't really teach taxes in high school. 418 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:06,320 So like I understand if you don't get it, but somebody knows that you know and you got to pay it. 419 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,320 Like I don't say you have an employer. 420 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:08,720 Yeah. 421 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,960 I've never worked for an employer that gave me the option to not file a W-2. 422 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,000 That's not an option. 423 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,880 They take the taxes. 424 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:15,520 Absolutely not. 425 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,400 You can choose if you're paying extra in or. 426 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:27,360 Well, on your W-4, you can claim like certain exemptions and things like that. 427 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:27,840 Right. 428 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,560 But they're still sending taxes in. 429 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,120 You know what I mean? 430 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:35,360 They still take taxes, but you can set your withholding rate. 431 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:35,600 Right. 432 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,640 Still withholding rate. 433 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,120 You can't say I'm not going to pay anything. 434 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:39,680 Right. 435 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:45,360 You can pay the minimum and risk having to pay in at the end or you can pay the maximum 436 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:48,960 and risk losing the interest on what they will give you back. 437 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,000 You know what I mean? 438 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,320 But by and large, and we're not tax professionals. 439 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,840 I am not a tax professional. 440 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,680 But by and large, it's probably better to just have them pay you back because if you're worried 441 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,640 about paying in, you're not making enough to have any interest on what they would pay you back. 442 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,600 So it doesn't matter. 443 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,160 You know what I mean? 444 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:14,480 So just have them withhold the maximum and then get that back and be happy with your life. 445 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:22,240 Instead of having them withhold the minimum and then you having to pay in at the end 446 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,720 because you're still not going to come out ahead. 447 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,640 You're never going to come out ahead unless your name is Bezos or Zuckerberg or Musk 448 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,760 or whatever the fuck. 449 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,080 Right. 450 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,960 And they have professionals to make sure that they don't pay. 451 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,320 Yeah, for sure, for sure. 452 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:34,800 Yeah. 453 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,680 And I mean, some of the things that they say on this website. 454 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,720 Do they have the disclaimer that they're not tax professionals? 455 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:44,480 Oh, they are. 456 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:45,360 I'm sure. 457 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:48,080 I'm sure that somewhere buried on this website. 458 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,200 If not, I'm going to not file my taxes and then sue them. 459 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,760 So their claim about passports is you don't need to have a passport to cross a border. 460 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,800 They have a very complex scheme. 461 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,720 That's I mean, that's technically true. 462 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,320 You can't you can't go through you can't go through just any border point. 463 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,400 But if you can find a border point that's not manned, sure, you don't need a passport. 464 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,200 They're claiming. 465 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,600 I mean, there's a few high points with all this nonsense. 466 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:23,760 So this American States Assembly stuff is all run by this Anna von Reitz, 467 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,360 who claims to be a judge, who's not. 468 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:28,320 I'm not going to say who claims to be a German. 469 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,600 No, no, no. 470 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,920 All of these things on this website, they're webinars and classes. 471 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,440 You have to pay money to see how to fill out this paperwork. 472 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,480 Of course. 473 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:38,960 Right. 474 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:45,040 And so for the passport, it's a long convoluted process of sending yourself a postcard. 475 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:51,920 And on it, you have to buy a fake stamp from her called a world one dollar world stamp. 476 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,120 And as long as the the the post office stamps it with your locality on there, 477 00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:02,160 then suppose according to them, now you can you can cross international borders 478 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:07,760 legally with that because of land law of the land or some shit versus maritime law. 479 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,840 Heavy air quotes because of reasons. 480 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,360 It's because well, they have all these legalese terms and they like to use capitalization. 481 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:19,920 Like capitalizing makes it, you know, doesn't the right thing. 482 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,520 Look, this is some free advice for Anna Von Third Reich. 483 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,520 Charge like 15 bucks, then you're set for life, man. 484 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,120 Like charge 500 bucks. 485 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,040 People will pay that shit because they're idiots. 486 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Oh, right. 487 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,280 Like, hey, you got to buy this phone another stamp from me 488 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,280 and then you're free to go anywhere you want. 489 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,720 There's a payment structure. 490 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,360 By the time they figure out that you're full of shit, they're in Gitmo getting water boarded. 491 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:45,920 Right. 492 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,160 There's a payment structure for all this stuff. 493 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,600 And it's like, you know, you know what, Mike? 494 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,560 Yeah. 495 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,680 Waterboarding in Guantanamo Bay sounds fun if you don't know what either of those things means. 496 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,280 That's true. 497 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,560 Yeah. 498 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,720 Did you ever see the Chris Hitchens waterboarding video? 499 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:03,840 No. 500 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,280 Oh, it was great because he was like a supporter of waterboarding initially 501 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,200 until they water boarded him and he was like, no, this is torture. 502 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:11,920 Yeah. 503 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,680 So it's the worst thing ever. 504 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,800 Like it's terrible. 505 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,320 I never done it, but I'm not a risk taker. 506 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:23,440 But I know that they hung people at Nuremberg for waterboarding American soldiers. 507 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,800 So apparently back in World War II era, they thought it was torture. 508 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,000 That's all I can say about that. 509 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:28,560 You know what I mean? 510 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,440 If we do it, though. 511 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,040 So, I mean, not to go into the super specifics, which we will later if we want to. 512 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,560 The core belief is that income tax is illegal for all Americans other than 513 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,280 black people and employees of the federal government. 514 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,720 Oh, you lost me with the black people and employees of the federal government. 515 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,120 I believe income tax is illegal for everybody. 516 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:57,040 So they say they legitimize this claim because the 14th Amendment 517 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:04,800 made black people specifically national citizens while non-black people are state citizens. 518 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,760 Does this does this argument bring any bells for you? 519 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:15,280 All I'm going to say as an atheist, I'm going to say Jesus Christ. 520 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,560 What the fuck are they talking about? 521 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:24,880 So their argument is that the Civil War was not a war between the North and South over slavery. 522 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:31,120 It was about states' rights and about a corporate entity taking over the U.S. 523 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,920 government that was led by Abraham Lincoln. 524 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:34,420 OK. 525 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,520 Was the corporate entity Lincoln Logs? 526 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,520 It was incorporated. 527 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,520 Oh, OK. 528 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,040 Like Lincoln Logs would have been awesome. 529 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:43,520 Right. 530 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,800 Like, can you imagine if our government was funded by the Lincoln Logs? 531 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,080 That would be tremendous. 532 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,280 That would be tremendous. 533 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,560 You can still buy Lincoln Logs. 534 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,360 That's what I like. 535 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:52,480 Oh, yeah, you can. 536 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,640 I had so much fun as a kid with Lincoln Logs. 537 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,840 I cannot like. 538 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,880 Yeah, I had fun with the N64 and the original Nintendo, the NES. 539 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,320 But like we may have my brothers and I had so much fun. 540 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,640 Like we built all these force with Lincoln Logs. 541 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,400 And we built like little cannons. 542 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,040 Catapults. 543 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Yeah. 544 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,320 Yeah. 545 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,400 And we would like we would like fucking, you know, like just like wreck shit on each other's 546 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,040 like frontier force and stuff with the Lincoln Logs. 547 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,920 But it's so fun. 548 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,240 And it's just like little pieces of wood, you know. 549 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,720 And now, like my daughter gets upset when there's like an eight second commercial on her YouTube 550 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,280 video. 551 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,400 And I'm like, OK. 552 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,520 When I was a kid, we only got cartoons like Saturday mornings and there was like five 553 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,800 minute commercials. 554 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,880 So I don't know what you're planning about. 555 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,680 Like, this is great. 556 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,960 Like, this is the best has ever been. 557 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,400 Like, it's never been better than this. 558 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,440 Oh, I feel like maybe I'm old, you know, like maybe I'm old. 559 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,080 I don't know. 560 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,840 Oh, we're getting old for sure. 561 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,240 So anyway, not to get off topic too far. 562 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:58,160 These people or their doctrine is to deny the legitimacy of constitutional amendments. 563 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:04,160 And they also seem to think that the Articles of Confederation are still active laws. 564 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,840 A law in the US. 565 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,560 You could have said the sovereign citizens are all KKK members. 566 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,040 You could have. 567 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,880 They're not KKK members, but they are. 568 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:21,200 Are you sure they're definitely an extension of the state's rights argument, right? 569 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,320 Like we talked about the states, our argument is an argument. 570 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,200 Is it an argument? 571 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:31,600 It's not a legitimate argument, but it's a lot of this is an excuse. 572 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,800 Is that an excuse? 573 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,000 It's an excuse. 574 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,500 Yeah. 575 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:38,000 And like I say, it's all a lot of legalese. 576 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:45,840 So this Anna von Reitz, who claims a self-proclaimed judge, she writes a lot of books. 577 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,320 Shocker. 578 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,880 And you can buy them on Amazon. 579 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,400 And I'd love to. 580 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,920 Oh, and she has a co-author and a lot of them. 581 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,520 His name is David Robinson. 582 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:02,080 And I'm going to write you or read you what he wrote about himself as his author page. 583 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:02,320 Yes. 584 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,200 No, no. 585 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,920 David Robinson is a journalist and author living in the mid coast area of Maine. 586 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,520 For his publications, see a tiny URL address like he's a only fans girl. 587 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:14,480 Yeah. 588 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:22,160 He's using like a free like URL condenser instead of like using his own website thing 589 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,640 to make the URL small. 590 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,280 Yes. 591 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:25,680 Okay. 592 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:32,240 David Robinson served as a grand juror capitalized seated under some capitalized. 593 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,920 Dragon, a grand dragon. 594 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,840 A lot of these terms have a very similar ring to that. 595 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:44,560 And I listened to one of this Anna von Reitz's speeches and Sarah stared at the computer like, 596 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,680 oh, my fucking God. 597 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,680 Are they are they also masons or? 598 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,600 I don't think so. 599 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,800 So anyway, he was a grand juror seated under summons capitalized on the Cumberland County 600 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,080 Maine grand jury, all capitalized during the first four months of 2014. 601 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,760 He is a graduate of the Brunswick Maine Police Academy, capitalized of a number of years back. 602 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,520 David Robinson publishes the Maine Republic email report, all caps. 603 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,960 And then they got their little website. 604 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Classic. 605 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,840 So all this stuff that all of his little credentials are all bullshit, 606 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,120 sovereign citizen nonsense. 607 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:23,840 None of it's real. 608 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,040 I was going to say bullshit. 609 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,760 Yeah, there is no Cumberland County Maine grand jury. 610 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,760 There is no grand juror. 611 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,120 There is no whatever. 612 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,520 Mike, you need to be respectful because there totally is that stuff. 613 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:36,400 Yes. 614 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,880 This is what he tells himself before he goes to bed every night. 615 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,240 Oh, yes. 616 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,520 And he's some like he's Shum Schlepp, right? 617 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:49,200 That this other like Anne Anna von Third Reich convinced to write all of her books for her. 618 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160 He's the ghost author, but he gets a co-author credit because 619 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,640 he saw her naked once or something. 620 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,120 And so now he can get co-author credit. 621 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,320 But he writes all the shit. 622 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,000 And she's just like, no, it was written by me. 623 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160 But also, like he did like a chapter here or there. 624 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,200 You know, she's right. 625 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,800 Yeah, she's writing this stuff. 626 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,880 She's it's all psycho babble with like, like I say, she uses a lot of five and ten dollar words 627 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,840 that mean nothing. 628 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,280 This mean nothing. 629 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:19,440 When Judge Anna was asked about her courtroom, she said the state of Alaska stopped offering 630 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,840 justice of the peace services some time ago. 631 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,840 As far as we're concerned, we have a need for such services and we have the right to 632 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,360 self govern and do this. 633 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,040 So we set up people that want to reclaim their state national status. 634 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,960 I want to live under the law of the land instead of the law of the sea. 635 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,760 Law of the sea, according to them, is corporate law. 636 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,400 And that's that's how does that? 637 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:44,720 I don't. 638 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,800 It's nonsense. 639 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,520 I'm going to sound a little like a little mentally challenged. 640 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,960 And I don't mean that in a bad way. 641 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,680 Like, I'm just going to sound like I don't know what I'm talking about because I don't 642 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,880 I don't know what that means. 643 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,200 Like law of the sea versus law of the land. 644 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,880 Like, what the fuck are you talking about? 645 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,640 Not listen to this again. 646 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,160 Again, OK, listen to this. 647 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,320 I am sick and terrified of having people say I'm not a judge and asking me in what sense 648 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,320 I am a judge and coming up with all these silly suppositions and accusations. 649 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:22,320 I am a judge of the actual Alaska state capitalized, one of the several states capitalized 650 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,960 of the continental United States capitalized. 651 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:30,960 I occupy the actual public office and operate the actual Alaska State Superior Court capitalized. 652 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,760 So does Alaska State a couple of questions? 653 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,000 Does Alaska State have a superior court? 654 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,240 I'm sure they have a Supreme Court of some variety. 655 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:38,640 I'm guessing so. 656 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,480 She said superior, not supreme. 657 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,640 Also, also, and I don't know, maybe I went to a different high school than she did. 658 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,280 A continental United States is the 48, not Alaska. 659 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,200 So I don't know what she's talking about being like part of the continental United States. 660 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,280 Like, I'm glad you're still part of the continent, but you're not part of the continental United 661 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,440 States, according to my high schooling. 662 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,960 I mean, my high schooling was in like, you know, rural Wisconsin. 663 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:11,440 So maybe it's not true, but it seems a lot more sound than whatever the fuck she's talking about. 664 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,280 What other big things as they try to make? 665 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:20,800 They try to differentiate between the corporate state of, let's say, Minnesota, since I live here. 666 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,240 And the land of Minnesota, right? 667 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,280 They're saying that, oh, yeah, the corporate state of Minnesota is run by the corporate 668 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:35,440 government of the United States, but the land of Minnesota is run by the state assembly of 669 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,800 Minnesota, of which they have self-elected themselves to. 670 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,560 OK. 671 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,960 Well, you know what, Mike? 672 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,080 Yes. 673 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,920 You're Lord Mike of the Dell. 674 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,600 I'm fucking king of the universe. 675 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,120 So why are we even paying anything to anybody? 676 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,600 You know what I mean? 677 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,400 Like, I just have appointed myself the ultimate ruler of all. 678 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,440 So and you're Lord Mike of the Dell. 679 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,600 So of course, like you're equal to me. 680 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,000 Oh, this gets even better. 681 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,440 Everybody should be paying us like we're the two top most beings. 682 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,040 You can send your money. 683 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,160 Our PayPals and Venmos are as follows. 684 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,960 I'm just kidding. 685 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,840 Go on, Mike. 686 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:25,120 So this lady who has books, she's she's making profit off these crazy books on the Internet. 687 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,400 No, she's make a profit on these have books. 688 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,680 She had some like schlep like write books on her behalf. 689 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,280 She's got a lot of websites. 690 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,880 She's got a lot of sites like a library that she actually reads. 691 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,600 I don't think no. 692 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,800 She was a waitress before she did this. 693 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,600 It's not like she's got any sort of read. 694 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,120 Do not drag waitresses. 695 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,720 She's getting into this shit. 696 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,160 Her insanity is completely separate from being a waitress. 697 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,200 That's possibly true. 698 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,080 Anyway. 699 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Oh, my God. 700 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,480 So anyway, she's got these websites where you give her money. 701 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,800 Oh, of course, through credit cards, right? 702 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,960 Pictures of her feet or what? 703 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,280 No, no, you get videos of her spouting these nonsense terms. 704 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,120 I don't want to give you a PDF. 705 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,080 You can download a PDF file and then you can fill it out. 706 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,760 Get those videos. 707 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,680 Well, the funniest part is that all this paperwork you like download a PDF, right? 708 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,080 You fill it out and then they'll give you like a random bureaucrat in your state 709 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,680 or just a state like an office and I could find it. 710 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,720 I didn't get that deep into it, but they're having it send you. 711 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:34,400 They're sending it to like some random bureaucratic office worker 712 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,080 in the state government of your choice. 713 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,520 Some intern, I'm sure. 714 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:37,920 Yes. 715 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,120 And their argument is that and you have to get it notarized. 716 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,360 You have to pay to get it notarized by them. 717 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:43,680 Of course. 718 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,560 By like her. 719 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:44,960 Why not? 720 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,160 Because she's a state assembly notary, not a regular notary. 721 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,720 But she can't notarize it if she's not physically there. 722 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,560 Don't ask me how they do it. 723 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,880 They have their own rules about how they notarize things. 724 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,200 Did you pay them money, Mike? 725 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,000 Well, how the land? 726 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,720 No, I did not. 727 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,320 Thank God. 728 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,440 The show would reimburse you. 729 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,120 We would take our first five dollars of income 730 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,680 and we would reimburse you, Mike, for this to do the research, the heart hitting, 731 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,920 realistic investigation. 732 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,640 Anyway, the crux is that you pay this money for the course 733 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,920 and then you pay more money for this PDF that you fill out. 734 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960 You pay more money on top of that to get it notarized by them. 735 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,720 Oh, I thought it was you pay more money to convert the PDF to a Word document. 736 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,480 Oh, that'd be great. 737 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,360 I don't know how it works. 738 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,120 And then you send it in to this random government office 739 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,920 that has a secretary or a state worker, a government worker of some variety. 740 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,800 Presumably. 741 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,680 Presumably. 742 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,320 And then if they don't send it back to you denying your request, 743 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,160 then you're a sovereign citizen. 744 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,440 You don't have to follow any of the rules. 745 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,560 That's what they're saying. 746 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,480 So basically, you send this document that's all nonsense. 747 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,240 A person in office reads it. 748 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,640 They throw it in the garbage because it's bullshit, right? 749 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:57,840 Because it's nonsense. 750 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,960 It's nonsense. 751 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,880 And then now magically, you can not follow any rules anymore, more or less. 752 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,360 That's the claim is you leveled up, right? 753 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,800 Like, yeah, you leveled up. 754 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,600 And like I say, they have all these people calling themselves 755 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,000 state assemblymen and state marshals and judges who are LARPing 756 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,360 and pretending like they're a shadow government, I guess, that I mean, yeah, 757 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,240 runs around. 758 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:26,240 But the thing is, is that like this lady who's putting all this information out, 759 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,880 she has to be paying taxes because if she wasn't, 760 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,840 she'd go to jail. 761 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:37,040 And the thing is, there's cases where people like her, not her specifically, 762 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,640 but her like little minions have actually followed her belief system. 763 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,520 And guess what? 764 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,560 They went to fucking jail. 765 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,200 They went to jail. 766 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,080 I know it's shocking. 767 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,560 Lo and behold. 768 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,720 I can't believe it. 769 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:52,880 Yeah, it's weird. 770 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,080 So there was a court case that I read and I read the case. 771 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,800 United States versus David Lugar's L-E-U-G-E-R-S. 772 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:01,920 Yeah. 773 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:02,640 All right. 774 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,920 I'm going to bring it up. 775 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:05,440 Yeah. 776 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,800 And this guy, basically, he didn't pay his income taxes. 777 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,600 And he sent the court a letter saying that he didn't have to pay his income taxes 778 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,240 because of all this nonsense that she's putting out there. 779 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:23,120 And this judge basically wrote a long document with all this case law 780 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,920 saying like everything that you're saying is bullshit. 781 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:33,520 And she named Judge Anna Maria Reitzinger as a person that he used as a reference for all this. 782 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:41,440 And then she used like cases after cases from 91, from 2010, from 2009, you know, from 94. 783 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,040 Saying like... 784 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:48,240 I might surprise you, Mike, but I fully believe there's no shortage. 785 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:49,280 There's no shortage. 786 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,640 Of legal cases to throw these people in the fucking jail. 787 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,320 Yes, exactly. 788 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,200 Exactly. 789 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:01,520 And of course, you know, he tried to charge a $15,000 fee to even show up to court and all this stuff. 790 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,760 And of course, he got his ass thrown in the slammer. 791 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,260 Of course. 792 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,000 There's another case. 793 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,360 This is child support. 794 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,520 A gentleman named Kevin Raimi, who I will bring you to his LinkedIn page. 795 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,520 He did not pay $84,000 in child support. 796 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,240 So he got charged. 797 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:18,400 That seems like a lot of money to not pay. 798 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,360 Well, apparently, in the state of Alaska, where he's from, 799 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,280 if you owe more than $20,000 in child support, it's a classy felony. 800 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,160 Of course. 801 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:32,400 So he also filed all this nonsense with the court and it went nowhere. 802 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:32,960 All right. 803 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,600 Like he's getting charged with a felony, like no doubt. 804 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,100 Right. 805 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,640 So a little background about this guy. 806 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,680 He's a real winner. 807 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:48,080 I tried to look up his stuff because he's from like some shithole town in Alaska, Coleskig, Alaska or something. 808 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,840 And it turns out his son... 809 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,480 Sounds great. 810 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:56,240 ...who he wasn't paying child support for is a burglar and a highway robber, who was a felon, 811 00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:57,920 who was found dead in the ditch somewhere. 812 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,960 And he is going to shock you, is like a loser. 813 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,960 So on his LinkedIn page, Kevin Francis Birdman Raimi, 814 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:16,560 who is assistance of counsel and founder SGCAS at Sui Juri Court Angels Foundation. 815 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:16,800 Right. 816 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,120 So he's claiming to be a lawyer. 817 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,360 I'm passionate about fair play and equal protection under common law, capitalized. 818 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,640 I fight to protect our most fundamental inherent rights, under world, under God. 819 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:29,040 Yes. 820 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,880 Not paying for my child. 821 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,000 So experience, right? 822 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,200 Under his LinkedIn. 823 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,520 Assistance of counsel and founder of the Sui Juri Court Angels. 824 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,800 The only way for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. 825 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,840 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 826 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,520 Is a utility platform. 827 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,080 But shirking my child payments is not evil. 828 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:52,640 That's right. 829 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:53,440 Yep. 830 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,640 So he's a counsel, legal counsel under this citizen rights movement. 831 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:01,760 His education, right? 832 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,680 For it to be a lawyer, a counsel. 833 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,880 He went to the University of Hard Knox in Life, Bachelor of Science, Judicial Balancing. 834 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,960 I would hire him in a heartbeat. 835 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,680 And he was an Alpha One as his activity. 836 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,400 I don't know what that means, but I'm sure it's great. 837 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,120 So this is who these people are, right? 838 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:24,320 I mean, I was only in beta two, so I don't, you know, like, of course, he's way better than me. 839 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,320 Yeah, this is who these people are. 840 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,680 He's a fucking loser, right? 841 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,160 Well, he pays fucking child support. 842 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,080 I don't want to say he's a Republican because he doesn't care about the child after it's born. 843 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:41,920 But like, my God, you racked up $84,000 of not paying for your child. 844 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,640 Hey. 845 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,480 Like, regardless of like state states rights, right? 846 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,960 Like, regardless of states rights, should you not pay for your child, your offspring? 847 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:57,440 Like, regardless, like even if a federal or a corporate, like maritime law thing said 848 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,400 you had to pay for your child, like, wouldn't you just pay for your fucking child? 849 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,920 Like, what's so hard about that? 850 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,720 It's not that hard. 851 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,760 This is the sort of stuff that these sovereign citizens try to get away with, right? 852 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,760 Like, they're just losers. 853 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,200 I mean, I'm not arguing with you. 854 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,000 I'm just saying like in general, like I'm trying to be the every man or the every person 855 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,120 or the every they them, X, Z, Y, whatever the fuck. 856 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:25,840 You know, like, wouldn't you just like, if you had a child, regardless of all of the other shit, 857 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,160 like, I don't care what gender you are. 858 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:28,960 I don't care. 859 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,840 It doesn't matter. 860 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:36,720 If you have the income to help support that child, regardless of how it came about, 861 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:42,000 regardless of your gender, regardless of your sexual preferences, isn't that what be, 862 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,200 isn't that like the base, like the base human instinct is like, I should pay for my child? 863 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,160 Like, and of course, like there's spouses that abuse the spousal payments, right? 864 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,360 Like the child support. 865 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,160 Oh, yes. 866 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:54,720 Oh, yes. 867 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,240 And, but that's not the thing. 868 00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,760 Like, like, yeah, you're sovereign, you're sovereign citizen, but your sovereign asshole 869 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,240 is what you are if you're not going to pay for your child. 870 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,520 Like, that's not even like, sure, probably government money. 871 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,200 But my God, like, that's like base humanity, right? 872 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:14,160 Like if you were like a cave person and you banked another cave person and you had a child, 873 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:19,280 the cave baby, wouldn't you give the cave mama some extra berries for your cave baby? 874 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:19,920 You know what I mean? 875 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,720 Like, it's not even, it's not that hard of a concept. 876 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:27,760 Like, if you're going to create offspring, you're also responsible for them. 877 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,280 Maritime law or land labor law or whatever the fuck you're calling it. 878 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,600 Like, you know what I mean? Like states rights, whatever. 879 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,120 That has nothing states rights has nothing to do with not supporting your child. 880 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,200 It has everything to do with not supporting black people. 881 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,200 Right. So again, I'm going to tell you one more story here. 882 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,720 Bruce is angry. 883 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:47,680 I'm going to get angry. 884 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,520 Bruce is upset. 885 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:55,040 Claimed to be a superior court judge for the people's grand jury. 886 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,400 I'm a friend that other guy in LinkedIn, by the way, I'm going to harass him. 887 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,280 But go on, this guy claimed to be a judge. 888 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,720 He's a superior court judge for the people's grand jury. 889 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,320 And he is in prison. 890 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,240 He got sentenced to 38 years. 891 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:17,680 Thank God he was charged 20 years for racketeering and five to three years for a number of various 892 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,560 violations, including failure to pay taxes, criminal impersonation, retaliation against 893 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:28,320 the judge, attempt to influence a public servant extortion, extortion, and so on. 894 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,720 And threatening various law enforcement officers. 895 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,920 Yeah, I mean, like part of that is like, yeah, I can see that. 896 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,120 But part of it is, yeah, if you're going to fuck with these people, they're going to throw 897 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,480 all of those things at you. 898 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:41,760 Right. 899 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,640 Like, and then also like they'll add in like domestic terrorist and then your waterboarding 900 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,680 at Gitmo again. 901 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,400 So. 902 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,320 Oh, well, this is where he got this is where he went wrong. 903 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,440 OK, is that he basically failed to pay those other things. 904 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,520 Yeah, he failed to pay his taxes. 905 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,960 It's always the fucking tax thing. 906 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:05,120 And he was running a little group, you know, his superior court of not paying tax things, 907 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:05,440 right? 908 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:05,840 Yeah. 909 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:12,800 And he also had a people that were claiming to be marshals, continental United States 910 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:19,360 and marshals, all capitalized, who had made their own badges and put them on their necks 911 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,080 and were showing up to public officials and serving them summons from this fake judge. 912 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,120 What are their badges made out of? 913 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,640 The scrotums of their enemies? 914 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,880 I don't know. 915 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,760 I don't know. 916 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,720 And then so all this was going down. 917 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:39,760 Can we can we like take one second here and say, yes, Mike and myself are not accountants. 918 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,120 We're not tax professionals. 919 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,400 Please pay your taxes. 920 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:42,640 Please. 921 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,280 We're not like like you figure it out. 922 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,720 Like, don't talk to us. 923 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:49,760 Yes, people are dumb and don't listen to them. 924 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:49,920 Please. 925 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,480 So the Southern Poverty Law Center calls the sovereign citizens or the state assemblies 926 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,760 paper terrorists. 927 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,800 And this is where it comes in, is that these guys who are continental United States marshals, 928 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:07,600 who have fake badges, they're filing liens against property owned by state workers, 929 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:13,280 basically public workers in order to harass them, to try to stop them from trying to collect taxes 930 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:13,760 and shit. 931 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,040 So like, can we like on one hand, right? 932 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:19,360 Yes. 933 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,360 I would love to have a group of people filing liens against. 934 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,520 I mean, let's just say Mitch McConnell or public. 935 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,080 Let's have air quotes to public servants. 936 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,560 I would love that filing against like your rando state employees. 937 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,800 Like they're no different than any other employee. 938 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:41,200 Like they're no different than the waitress at the bar that you go and drink at and don't tip. 939 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:41,840 You know what I mean? 940 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:47,840 Like a state employee doesn't mean they dictate the state law just because somebody comes to you 941 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,840 and says, Hey, I have to collect your taxes because my boss said I have to, and their boss, 942 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,200 boss's boss said I have to like, that's not, that's not your enemy. 943 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:55,840 You know what I mean? 944 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,360 Like they're not your enemy. 945 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:02,240 So file the lien against like the state representative, the governor, 946 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:07,440 like somebody in public office, don't file the lien against just a rando state worker. 947 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:08,240 Right. 948 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:14,880 Well, and that's where it all goes back because these are like the followers of this fake judge, 949 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,800 Anna von Reitz, so yeah, you can call her Anna von Third Reich. 950 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,480 She is okay with that. 951 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,880 She has to be paying her taxes, right? 952 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,520 If she's driving around, she's not putting a fake license plate out in public. 953 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,040 She's paying taxes or something. 954 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,040 She has to be paying taxes because she lives somewhere and she has income. 955 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,800 If she wasn't, she'd be like this other guy do set. 956 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,680 Be like everybody else that listens to her, she'd be in jail. 957 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:46,720 She'd be in jail. 958 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:50,160 So anybody who follows this stuff and actually follows through with it, 959 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,040 they're going to jail. 960 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,480 They end up in jail. 961 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,160 They have to, they have to, you have to, they have to bring them into jail. 962 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,480 I mean, that's the whole, that's the whole point. 963 00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:58,720 Yeah. 964 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,960 If you're driving around your car and this guy who gave me this card made the claim that 965 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,480 traffic laws are unconstitutional and you don't have to follow them. 966 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,920 I mean, I don't disagree with you. 967 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,440 You're unconstitutional, but you honest to God have to follow them. 968 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,760 I know for a fact that he's following the rules because he's got a fucking vehicle 969 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,440 that has a legitimate license plate with a current tab on it. 970 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,320 And if you run a red light or a stoplight and a cop sees you, 971 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,400 they're pulling you over and are going to arrest you. 972 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,200 Well, of course. 973 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,360 I mean, right? 974 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,560 The constitutionality of that law does not matter. 975 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,840 It's the de facto. 976 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,960 It's not the juror. 977 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,000 It's the de facto. 978 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:42,080 Like if you want to take your traffic ticket and try and get the Supreme Court to take it up, 979 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,520 like good luck for you is probably unconstitutional. 980 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,880 Like I get it. 981 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,160 It's probably unconstitutional. 982 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,920 It is not unconstitutional. 983 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,280 These guys don't acknowledge. 984 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,800 Nobody's going to hurt you that it isn't. 985 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:57,520 They don't acknowledge the amendments to the constitution. 986 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,880 So they don't take the ninth amendment and 10th amendment into account, 987 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,280 which is that the states have rights to make laws. 988 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,080 Right. 989 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,680 Oh, I have a good question. 990 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,320 Yeah. 991 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,120 If they don't take into account the amendments, 992 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,360 what's their feeling on the 19th amendment? 993 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,720 I don't know. 994 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:15,760 I'm going to guess that much like the 16th amendment, 995 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,200 which is the amendment that created a national income tax, 996 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,600 they would say that it's nonsense. 997 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,840 OK, so Anna von Third Reich is going to say she doesn't have the right to vote. 998 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,680 Oh, it's because that was it's not in the Ten Commandments. 999 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,200 Women got the right to vote. 1000 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,480 It's not that they don't vote on who is in the state assembly. 1001 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,080 OK, not voting. 1002 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,080 They don't vote on who's in the state assemblies. 1003 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,360 They don't vote on who these judges are, fake judges. 1004 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,400 Right. 1005 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,480 It's very bizarre. 1006 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,000 But that's very bizarre. 1007 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,600 They would not want to include women in their demographic. 1008 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,400 I don't think that the women's voting issue is mostly their tax dodgers. 1009 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,720 And that's what it's all about. 1010 00:48:58,720 --> 00:48:59,920 I mean, I get that. 1011 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,920 But like, oh, they sit there and say, we don't believe in any amendments. 1012 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,760 And you're like, well, see, you don't think women should vote. 1013 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,320 And they'd be like, yeah, I don't think women should vote. 1014 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,440 But you're a woman. 1015 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,400 Yeah, I shouldn't vote. 1016 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,240 I don't think that they I mean, I don't think voting is in there 1017 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,040 in the zeitgeist of what they're concerned about. 1018 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,880 They mostly just don't want to pay taxes and have to pay licensing fees. 1019 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:21,920 Yeah. 1020 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,720 And that's fair. 1021 00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:24,880 But they're going about it like an awfully dumb way. 1022 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,440 Oh, for sure. 1023 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,240 You know, and they're OK. 1024 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:37,120 It's all an excuse just because these are like lowdown losers that have lost at life. 1025 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,720 And instead of dragging themselves out of the ditch that they're in. 1026 00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:43,200 Well, they're they want some alimony. 1027 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:44,160 Right. 1028 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,920 They're just losers who are angry at the government 1029 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,760 who don't want to have to pay taxes or fines and fees. 1030 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,000 Yeah. 1031 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,720 And Anna von Third Reich apparently sounds like she has enough followers 1032 00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:59,520 to charge only one dollar for her special stamp. 1033 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,640 Right. 1034 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,880 So, you know, she started a global bank to even though classic, 1035 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,360 it doesn't deal with any legitimate currency. 1036 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,360 So she tried to like start her own currency that you have to give her real money for. 1037 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:13,760 That's how they all start. 1038 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:14,640 That's how they start. 1039 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,400 Yeah, it's bizarre. 1040 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:23,520 It's again, convert your U.S. dollars to Anna von Third Reich bucks. 1041 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,040 That's right. 1042 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,600 That's right. How can you be a state assembly and not have anybody vote for you? 1043 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:30,800 They're just self appointing. 1044 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,640 There's so few of these people that if you're active in the quote unquote movement, 1045 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,560 of course, you're going to have a government position because there's not very many of them. 1046 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,320 Would that look good on my resume? 1047 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,000 Asking for a friend, asking for. 1048 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:45,680 I don't know. 1049 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:50,080 They these people seem to think it looks really good because they capitalize it. 1050 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,320 You know, if it's capitalized, then it's important. 1051 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,800 Well, and presumably they put it on their LinkedIn. 1052 00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:00,720 So I understand how you can be anti everything and then put like, 1053 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:03,120 I'm the lord of bullshit on their LinkedIn. 1054 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,120 Her co-author had a LinkedIn as well. 1055 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,200 We shouldn't surprise you, but it was pretty bare bones. 1056 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,200 It wasn't as good as the Birdman, the delinquent child support guy was. 1057 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:13,920 He's awesome. 1058 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,680 Like, I'd hire him in a heartbeat. 1059 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,680 Well, and like I say, I'm going to take I'm going to take full taxes out of his payroll, 1060 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,480 but I would hire him. 1061 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,360 I'm sure you've seen the Internet videos, 1062 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,000 the YouTube videos of cops beating the shit out of these guys 1063 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,840 because they don't have driver's licenses. 1064 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,040 I'm guessing that they lost their driver's license for some violation 1065 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,080 and they couldn't get it back. 1066 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,200 So there's not related. 1067 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,160 Had to make an excuse. 1068 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,200 Sure. Not related to not paying your child support. 1069 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,600 I'm sure it was related to states rights. 1070 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,880 Yeah, it's a state rights issue. 1071 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,240 And like it is an extension of that states rights argument at its most extreme. 1072 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,840 Which is weird because like Alaska is not the south. 1073 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,040 I don't think unless my. 1074 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:56,480 No, but there's a lot of rural yahoos, you know, a lot of real world yahoos. 1075 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,560 You know, Alaska's bill is the last frontier, 1076 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,560 but that doesn't mean the last frontier of racism. 1077 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,200 Yeah, it's interesting. 1078 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,520 Weird because like I don't want to sound bad, 1079 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,760 but I'm going to for just for this episode for educational purposes. 1080 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,600 How many black people live in Alaska? 1081 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,120 I'm sure that we could find that out. 1082 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,160 Let's find that out. 1083 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,280 Some I want to know. 1084 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:17,840 I want to know. 1085 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,800 You look it up. 1086 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,760 I'll look it up. 1087 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:25,280 Like, I don't know, like so I'm from a small Midwestern town 1088 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:31,280 and never saw much, never saw many diverse populations 1089 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,600 out and about in the woods deer hunting. 1090 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,240 Right. 1091 00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:41,760 So apparently Alaska, according to 2020 census, has 23,000 black people, 1092 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,880 which is 10,000 more than South Dakota and quite a bit more than Idaho. 1093 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,640 But I don't know. 1094 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:53,280 Okay, so white is 66.7% in Alaska. 1095 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,320 The black population is 3.6. 1096 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,760 Asian is 5.4 and everything else is less than that. 1097 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,640 So Alaska is not what you would call the hotbed of diversity. 1098 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,800 No, no, it is not. 1099 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,440 Yes. 1100 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,800 So yeah, they have their own flag, by the way. 1101 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,960 Alaska or these people? 1102 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,800 These people, they have their own flag 1103 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,360 and they say that it's the real United States flag. 1104 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,440 Show me, show me, show me. 1105 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:25,840 Is it as good as the LGBTQ++ plus 1737 flags? 1106 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,120 So interesting story about the flag. 1107 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:29,440 Okay. 1108 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,320 I want to see it. 1109 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,400 I'm going to tell you what it's called. 1110 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,280 You can look it up. 1111 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:33,840 No, drop it. 1112 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,680 American peacetime flag. 1113 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,240 Look it up. 1114 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,360 Fine. 1115 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:43,440 So the story behind these people claim that this flag is the flag of peace in America 1116 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,760 and that old glory is the wartime flag. 1117 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,360 They ignored the flag code. 1118 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:56,000 The real story is that this flag was used on revenue cutter service ships, 1119 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,320 which was the precursor to the Coast Guard. 1120 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:03,680 And they used it because it would distinguish custom ships from military ships 1121 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:08,000 and they would collect taxes off of the ships on these custom ships. 1122 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:08,720 Right. 1123 00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:12,560 And the flag is reused as a Coast Guard flag, 1124 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,800 but the Coast Guard added some insignias on top. 1125 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,960 Right. 1126 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,120 And this is like the perfect example of what I mean by they take like a half truth 1127 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,360 and they spin it with some gobbledygook on top 1128 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:30,560 because it was a used flag by like the IRS or whatever of early America. 1129 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:30,800 Yeah. 1130 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,520 But it's certainly not the real American flag or the peacetime flag or whatever. 1131 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,200 It's not a bad looking flag, to be honest. 1132 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:44,000 It's very, if you're one of those people that gets upset 1133 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,280 when a black quarterback kneels during the national anthem, 1134 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,640 you're going to hate this flag. 1135 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,040 But if you're just like a normal dude, you're like, 1136 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,440 hey, that's an interesting take on the American flag. 1137 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,560 I think it's kind of neat. 1138 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,000 It's different. 1139 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:03,280 It's not like the pride flags where it's all like a variation on a theme ad nauseam. 1140 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:03,600 Right. 1141 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,400 This is very interesting. 1142 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:11,680 The original one had 16 stripes because there were 16 states at the time of its use. 1143 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:17,440 And it was just a variation on the American flag so that foreign vessels would know like, 1144 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,240 oh, these are the guys that are going to inspect our ship 1145 00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:24,400 to make sure that we have all that stuff on board and our tax money and stuff. 1146 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:24,640 Right. 1147 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,160 They're not like a military vessel. 1148 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,240 So it was like a pro tax money flag. 1149 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:31,920 And now they're taking it to mean an anti tax money flag or something. 1150 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:32,720 That's correct. 1151 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:33,760 That's correct. 1152 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,800 And then they use so they're legitimate. 1153 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,640 They think that they can opt out. 1154 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,800 They say that income tax is optional. 1155 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:48,240 And they use like the pre 16th Amendment income tax rules, which they used to do 1156 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,880 temporary income taxes to pay for wars. 1157 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:58,960 But they there's a number of acts that in the past that all started and ended these war taxes. 1158 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,280 And they ended the war tax in 1946. 1159 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:07,360 But they're not taking into account that the 16th Amendment established the federal income tax 1160 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,800 because they don't accept the amendments to the Constitution as legitimate. 1161 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,480 So how do they feel with the Bill of Rights then? 1162 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,240 I don't think that they accept the Bill of Rights. 1163 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,880 How can you accept the Bill of Rights? 1164 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,760 They have. 1165 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:22,560 How can you accept? 1166 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,360 Well, how can you accept the Bill of Rights if you don't accept 1167 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,480 all the other amendments just because, you know, you don't want to. 1168 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,920 Well, I mean, like, you know, prohibition and alcohol was stupid, 1169 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,320 but it happened and then that unhappened. 1170 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,680 You know what I mean? You would think you'd have to have some 1171 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,080 not that any of us nowadays do, but you would think on some level, 1172 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,800 you'd have to have a little bit of faith in the process. 1173 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:52,400 Like as difficult as it is, like it's crazy difficult to amend the Constitution. 1174 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,000 You know, like, I don't understand. 1175 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,560 Like, you don't you don't want the freedom of speech. 1176 00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,680 You don't want the right to bear arms. 1177 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,440 You don't want the right for women to vote. 1178 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,000 You don't want. 1179 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,840 Listen, Nate, for 20 bucks, you can send this chick 20 bucks 1180 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:10,560 and she'll send you a fake paper license plate for your car and a fake ID 1181 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,200 so you can drive around as a sovereign national. 1182 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:19,120 As long as you also spent the money to get your paperwork sent to some random 1183 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,000 bookkeeping office at some random government agency in your state. 1184 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,760 Yeah, I'm just saying for 20 bucks, I should at least be getting feet pics. 1185 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,280 And that's in like full on like snatch. 1186 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,240 But, you know, like 20 bucks, like, yeah, show me a foot. 1187 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,560 Like, I'm not even in defeat, but for 20 bucks, like, I should be getting something right. 1188 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,320 I've started some bullshit papers. 1189 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,280 I can send 20 bucks to anybody and they'll send me some bullshit paper. 1190 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,680 I can make bullshit papers from AI now. 1191 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,680 Like, I don't need on a third Reich. 1192 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,200 These websites, by the way, I went to a number of them. 1193 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,200 I'm not sure if it's good that I went to them, you know, as far as like my social credit score. 1194 00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:01,600 But they're all like Internet one point no websites like it brought me right back to 1995. 1195 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,400 Hasn't been established here yet, you know, so you should be OK. 1196 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,760 It's coming next year. 1197 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,000 Yes. 1198 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,240 With so I'm at lockdowns. 1199 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,600 Oh, my God. 1200 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,680 Do you have any more questions that I can try to answer? 1201 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,280 I mean, I like I say it's such nonsense, psycho babble. 1202 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,920 And I tried to make a fair assessment and give you quotes so you can hear 1203 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:23,840 what they're saying. 1204 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:24,560 You know what I mean? 1205 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:25,520 Yeah. 1206 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:31,600 And I think like, you know, these people are fucking stupid. 1207 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,600 I would say that they have less than average intelligence if they truly believe this stuff. 1208 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:41,440 I would also tell you, I feel like there are legitimate not these people, not these people, 1209 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,200 but I feel like there are legitimate sovereign citizens out there. 1210 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:53,360 But usually these sovereign citizens are praying on the goodwill of wherever the fuck they are. 1211 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:58,320 And if shit ever hit the fan, they would be out of luck because the government would be like, 1212 00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,440 you're a sovereign citizen. 1213 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:00,720 You're your own country. 1214 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,680 Like, fuck off. 1215 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:02,480 You know what I mean? 1216 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,880 Like, I feel like there's there's there's people that are actually like legitimate sovereign 1217 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,280 citizens. 1218 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,720 They've actually done real things to become a sovereign citizen. 1219 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,520 But that means you don't have any benefit of anything anywhere. 1220 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,760 And you truly solely on your own. 1221 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:22,160 You don't have like these fucking fake like there's no FEMA, right? 1222 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,560 A hurricane comes through and wrecks your house and and everybody's like, well, you're a sovereign 1223 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:26,960 citizen. 1224 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,760 Like, go fuck off. 1225 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,560 Like, you're not you're not getting anything, you know. 1226 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,720 I don't know what the percentage is. 1227 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,560 I feel like it's very small, but I feel like there are some like there's some legitimate 1228 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,880 ways to become one for sure. 1229 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:43,760 But you're kind of saying no to everything, like no to everything. 1230 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:48,640 And we don't have much in this country despite being rah rah number one, as we proved on our 1231 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,240 episode is America number one rah rah rah rah America. 1232 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,000 You know, even less than what we currently have as Americans. 1233 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,200 Like, if you want that, like, fuck, fine, go for it. 1234 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,600 But you're not getting like anything. 1235 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:02,400 You know what I mean? 1236 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:03,600 Yep. 1237 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,960 So they have a frequently asked questions. 1238 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,160 They're doing OK. 1239 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:08,960 They have a fake you. 1240 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,440 Yes. 1241 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,600 The number one is, will the IRS or the IRS and income taxes? 1242 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:14,880 Will the IRS come after me? 1243 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:15,600 Yes. 1244 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,320 And she says the IRS, like all government contractors, operates through paperwork and 1245 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:21,680 use the sphere to control people. 1246 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,160 They don't just show up at your door overnight or freeze your accounts. 1247 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,840 They use letters, blah, blah, blah. 1248 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,320 The IRS scam was figured out decades ago and it's possible to navigate out safely. 1249 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:35,520 The horror stories are here about our propagandize to reinforce the fear torture one terrorize 1250 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:36,560 a 10,000. 1251 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,480 I promise you it is legit. 1252 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,520 They will come fuck you up. 1253 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:40,080 Yep. 1254 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:44,560 The people that have had problems are people who have not properly corrected their stats. 1255 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:49,040 If you participate in their jurisdiction, the maritime jurisdiction, they still own 1256 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:53,360 you must work with your assembly to make sure you have the correct paperwork and that is 1257 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,840 filled out properly recorded and published. 1258 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,200 The more deeply you study the fraud and truth about the government, the truth about taxes 1259 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,200 and the truth about the IRS, the more confident you will become about your rights and freedoms 1260 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,000 as Americans. 1261 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,680 So you can spout that when you're getting water boarded. 1262 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:08,240 I get. 1263 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,160 Oh, yeah, it's all bullshit. 1264 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,000 And then they're like, what about my retirement? 1265 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:12,720 Well, good news. 1266 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,720 You're still entitled to that. 1267 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:15,280 What about Medicare? 1268 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,880 You're still entitled to that somehow. 1269 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:21,280 Social Security, you're still it's like, oh, you can have everything. 1270 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,960 You just don't have to pay taxes anymore. 1271 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,480 That's like they're perfect. 1272 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,840 They're selling pitch. 1273 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,800 It's like, what? 1274 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:27,600 You know what? 1275 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:32,240 If you want every if you want all the benefits of all this shit, become a member of Congress. 1276 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,600 Then you get all that shit. 1277 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,480 You don't have to pay for it. 1278 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,640 You get paid extra to not pay into it. 1279 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,800 That's the only legal way to get out of taxes. 1280 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,520 Become a member of Congress or the railroad. 1281 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:42,720 Or work for the railroad. 1282 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,240 You don't have to pay your social security. 1283 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,160 Or become FC and level and then you don't pay anything. 1284 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,600 And if you become super rich. 1285 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,760 But yeah, who believes that shit? 1286 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,400 I mean, do I would I like to believe it? 1287 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:55,680 That'd be awesome. 1288 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,640 Of course. 1289 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,000 But no, it's dumb. 1290 01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,120 Is income tax legal? 1291 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:00,480 I don't know. 1292 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,800 It'd take one hell of a fight to fucking prove it isn't. 1293 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:04,800 Even if you think it isn't. 1294 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:10,240 Even if you could prove to yourself it isn't like you still have the reality of fucking life. 1295 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:10,560 Right. 1296 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,720 Just because I don't think a driver's license is constitutionally allowable. 1297 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:19,680 Doesn't mean I'm going to take up the case to go challenge it at the Supreme Court. 1298 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:20,720 You know how much money that would take? 1299 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,800 And how much time and effort and energy like for a driver's license? 1300 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,480 Like I don't think you should be able to tell me I can't drive a car because I didn't, you know, 1301 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,560 whatever this and that like, no, like. 1302 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:31,680 That's the thing, Nate. 1303 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,520 It's not deeply embedded. 1304 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,720 It's not the federal government saying that you can't. 1305 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,360 It's the state government and the state government. 1306 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,600 It's the state government does have the right to regulate that. 1307 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,720 It's not a protected constitutional right federally. 1308 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,760 Therefore, the government, state government can regulate it. 1309 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,880 Plus, yeah, and you're traveling on the interstate system. 1310 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,240 They're traveling on interstate systems. 1311 01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,320 So that adds in the whole interstate commerce clause potentially. 1312 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,680 But the whole point is the state requires it. 1313 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:04,400 So I need it. 1314 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,560 Every state requires it. 1315 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:07,600 So I need it. 1316 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:13,680 The driver's license is like the only interstate document that is accepted in all 50 states. 1317 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:15,040 Real ID. 1318 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:16,720 That's like the new one. 1319 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,640 Now that has enhanced and real ID has not happened in 20 years. 1320 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,480 It's been pushed off for like 20 years. 1321 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:22,960 What? 1322 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,720 But I just read an article saying it was coming into effect here soon. 1323 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,600 Man, they've been talking about that since I graduated high school. 1324 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,320 If you do it, I know I have an enhanced ID. 1325 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,400 It doesn't would it doesn't take any. 1326 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,720 I mean, it takes like gathering some paperwork when you get your driver's license for God's 1327 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:39,200 sakes. 1328 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:39,760 You know what I mean? 1329 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:40,400 I won't do it. 1330 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,000 I won't do it till it's absolutely mandated by law. 1331 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,480 I think in Minnesota, you're not going to be able to go into a state building. 1332 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,120 I never go in like two or three years. 1333 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:49,600 Buildings. 1334 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:50,080 They suck. 1335 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,280 Like they're not even architecturally significant. 1336 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,320 Like why would I go there? 1337 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:56,640 Yes. 1338 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,880 That's what that's you know, you should become a sovereign citizen. 1339 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,000 Maybe I already am. 1340 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,200 Maybe I'm already in league with Anna von Third Reich. 1341 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,120 I guess it'd be fourth right by now, right? 1342 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,480 Like, you know. 1343 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,000 Oh, yeah. 1344 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,280 They have like a special way you're supposed to put your address down 1345 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,600 so that you are legally, you know, they have a sovereign citizen way to do it. 1346 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:18,720 Yep. 1347 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:24,320 Get to have a CEO in front of the street address and square brackets around the zip code. 1348 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,200 Yeah, that totally makes sense. 1349 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:27,760 Yeah. 1350 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,880 And oh, like, yeah, person that delivers shit. 1351 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,000 Whenever you need to put your mailing address on an envelope or document, 1352 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,440 always use care of CEO in front of the street address line. 1353 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,240 And some people use square brackets around their zip code. 1354 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,480 If you do not at least do the CEO trick, 1355 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,160 you are essentially entering an adhesion contract with the de facto government 1356 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:51,200 as if putting CEO on your fucking letter is going to somehow prevent you. 1357 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,120 Or it's nonsense. 1358 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,360 Like, who thinks that is effective? 1359 01:04:55,360 --> 01:05:02,560 The problem is you're saying that this makes you enter a contract with the de facto government, 1360 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,800 which is not the de jure government. 1361 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,880 So de facto is the government of fact, of reality, 1362 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,760 regardless of if they have a legal right to it or not. 1363 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:16,800 So basically, you're saying the government that has the right to do this by fact, 1364 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:22,800 by law, by legal, not by law, but like by force, by fact, why would they care then? 1365 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,600 They're already the de facto government. 1366 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,040 Like they wouldn't care about whatever the fuck you're trying to do. 1367 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,240 Like, am I am I taking crazy pills or it? 1368 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:33,360 None of it makes sense to me. 1369 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,600 It is bizarre. 1370 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:36,960 Oh, come on, fucker. 1371 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,800 I'm trying to look up a notice for 2023. 1372 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:41,520 Oh, look at that. 1373 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,040 She's got all these notices from March. 1374 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:45,760 Of course. 1375 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:46,640 Oh, yeah. 1376 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,920 These people really are upset about the civil war. 1377 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,920 Like they really don't like that. 1378 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,360 It's like 20 years ago. 1379 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:53,920 Yeah. 1380 01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,680 160 years, blah, blah, blah. 1381 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,600 By the way, this Anna Von Reitz is the one in 15. 1382 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:07,760 She made Internet headlines because she put out a notice that Barack Obama and Congress were 1383 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:13,920 had a federal court order to be put under arrest and like went viral on the Internet 1384 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,480 because she calls herself judge. 1385 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:16,800 Right. 1386 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,080 So it's like, oh, an Alaskan judge issued an arrest warrant to the U.S. 1387 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,400 Marshal Service. It's like, no, she did. 1388 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:28,800 This lady put out a fake arrest warrant to her United States Marshals that have fake badges. 1389 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:34,960 They go to the rest of Barack Obama made out of Inuit scrotums. 1390 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:43,200 They're also like big covid conspiracy theorists, which of course they would be. 1391 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:43,440 Yeah. 1392 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,160 Yeah. But it might also not be false. 1393 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:51,040 I mean, I'm not I mean, I would lean it. I wouldn't consider it a conspiracy theory 1394 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:56,240 if you're using evidence that has been generated since 2020. 1395 01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:01,040 Right. Like evidence that has since come out or evidence that has since come out. 1396 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:01,520 Yeah. 1397 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:06,480 I feel like you can't say I don't like any amendments to the Constitution 1398 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,880 and the Bill of Rights is bullshit and I shouldn't be paying income tax, 1399 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:11,920 which like is a fine. 1400 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,040 It's a fair like I shouldn't be paying income tax is like a fair thing 1401 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,840 because we have sales tax and we have all these other taxes. 1402 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:22,000 Like every dollar you have is taxed like five times, you know, or whatever. 1403 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,840 And it's like that's too that's too many times. 1404 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,440 That's like four times too many. 1405 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:31,360 But you can't say income tax is bad and then also say all amendments are bad and black people suck. 1406 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,560 And you know what I mean? 1407 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:40,960 Like you can't just you have to like just be sane in like one thing and then fight for that thing. 1408 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:46,240 And we talked about this on the on the on the LGBTQ flags like the pride flags, 1409 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,400 like they don't have a common cause anymore. 1410 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,960 So you've got 57 different flags, you know, and 21 of those are important to know. 1411 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,960 And the other 30 some are not. 1412 01:07:54,960 --> 01:08:00,000 But you can't just say maritime law, land law, amendments are bad. 1413 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,600 Civil War should have gone differently. 1414 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,320 But we're not racist, but we hate black people. 1415 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,520 But we're also not racist, but Jews are bad and we're not racist. 1416 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,600 But anybody who's not white is bad and don't pay income tax unless you're black 1417 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,160 because black people should pay income tax. 1418 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,240 But we shouldn't because we're white. 1419 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,280 But we're not racist. 1420 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,200 And the government is bad. 1421 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,840 OK, and like we all understand the government is bad. 1422 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:22,960 None of us like the government. 1423 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,080 It's all it's all bad. 1424 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,520 Choo-choo like it's bad stuff. 1425 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,960 But you can't go on with all this other stuff and expect people to take you seriously 1426 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,640 because that's some bullshit. 1427 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:35,600 Like if you want to send me money and I'll give them a fake document to put on their car 1428 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,760 so they can get pulled over faster and arrested faster, like I'm happy to do it. 1429 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,760 But I'm not going to tell them it's going to get them out of stuff. 1430 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,640 I'm being like, hey, yeah, you want to send me five bucks to get arrested faster. 1431 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:45,920 I'll send you a document right now. 1432 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,120 You get arrested tomorrow. 1433 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,160 I guarantee it. 1434 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:54,480 What I think is so funny, like I understand that there's people who really believe this stuff. 1435 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,640 But yeah, and that's sad. 1436 01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:01,520 It's sad because to me, it's so clear that the only reason why they're in this position 1437 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:06,240 is, for example, they can't get a real license plate on their car for some reason. 1438 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,360 They can't get a real driver's license. 1439 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:10,640 It could be drunk driving. 1440 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,360 It could be not paying child support. 1441 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,280 It could be yeah, it could be a number of things. 1442 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:16,880 It could be math for sure. 1443 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,680 It's not because they're winning at life. 1444 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,480 They can't get one is our bad reasons. 1445 01:09:22,480 --> 01:09:22,880 Right. 1446 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:28,320 Like the child support guy is a lawyer in this constitutional 1447 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,120 or the state assembly system here. 1448 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:31,440 You're right. 1449 01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:36,560 Like, yeah, we're using this graduated from the school of hard knocks very loosely. 1450 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:41,840 Yeah, the guy who did eighty four thousands in child support is a lot of years not paying 1451 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:42,400 child support. 1452 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:43,840 That's a lot of money. 1453 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,640 That's potentially all of the child support. 1454 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:47,200 You have. 1455 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,560 I mean, that could be like maybe one year if you have 80 kids. 1456 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:52,800 It's a lot. 1457 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,640 That's it's years. 1458 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,600 It's too much years of not paying. 1459 01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:02,160 It's more than like, oh, OK, you forgot for a year and now you're bitter about it. 1460 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,960 This is like I forgot forever about this. 1461 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:05,760 You know what I mean? 1462 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,160 That's like I don't have a job. 1463 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,360 And yeah, it's beyond reasonable doubt is what it is. 1464 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,040 Most I don't know these. 1465 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:18,000 I don't I don't own any child support, but I assume that like if you have a court order 1466 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:23,200 to pay child support, your employer would have to be legally informed of that and they 1467 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,480 would automatically deduct it. 1468 01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:24,800 Right. 1469 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,720 You would think you would think that. 1470 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:27,920 You would think you would think. 1471 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:28,560 I mean, I don't know. 1472 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:34,320 Like every state is a little bit different on some of those things, you know, like Texas 1473 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,920 does not accept debt outside of its borders. 1474 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:43,920 So if you incur debt outside of Texas and even if you have a legal judgment against 1475 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,320 you in a different state, if you move to Texas, Texas does not give you fucks. 1476 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,920 They're like this debt did not incur in within Texas borders. 1477 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,640 Therefore, it's not legitimate in our government's eyes. 1478 01:10:54,640 --> 01:11:01,600 But 49 or 48 of the other states or 47, whatever it is, they all will accept debt from an 1479 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:02,400 outside state. 1480 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,800 So I don't know what Alaska is. 1481 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,720 And I don't know if this guy moved or didn't move, but I'm saying there are some weird 1482 01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,800 loopholes sometimes, but probably not eighty four thousand dollars worth of loopholes. 1483 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:13,520 You know what I mean? 1484 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:14,160 Right. 1485 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,720 It's again. 1486 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,520 And we're not lawyers of this. 1487 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:20,480 No, we're not lawyers. 1488 01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:21,040 We don't know. 1489 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:21,760 So we don't know. 1490 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,240 Have I do you feel like I explained? 1491 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:25,200 Yes. 1492 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,040 Yeah, I'm not a state assembly member. 1493 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,240 I don't understand how they can be part of a state assembly if there was never a goddamn 1494 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:31,920 election anyway. 1495 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,200 It's the amendments, man. 1496 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:34,000 It's the amendments. 1497 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:36,160 Yeah. 1498 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:41,440 How can you have an assembly that's representative of the citizens and you didn't have an election? 1499 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:47,040 Maybe they only get elected amongst like the people who have paid the 25 bucks or whatever 1500 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,480 it costs to do this paperwork. 1501 01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:56,480 Yeah, if you bought five stamps from Anna von Forthreich, then you get assembly that is. 1502 01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:57,760 Global posted stamps. 1503 01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:59,680 Global posted stamps. 1504 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,520 The global entity. 1505 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,520 No, they have to write on them with red ink. 1506 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,840 Like I say, it's all this nonsense. 1507 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,360 And Hitler is still alive in Argentina or something. 1508 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,400 Have I explained this well enough for you to know now about the sovereign citizen movement? 1509 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:17,920 Are you still mystified? 1510 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:18,880 I look so. 1511 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,320 Well, yes and yes. 1512 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:25,680 I think you explained it well, but I'm also still mystified because it doesn't even like 1513 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:26,640 it defines logic. 1514 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,640 The biggest thing for me was that when I started bringing this up and I started talking to 1515 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:37,040 Sarah about it, she was like, well, that lady's got to be scamming these people out of money. 1516 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,640 Instantly, it went there in her head. 1517 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:39,600 She knew, right? 1518 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:40,400 Of course, yeah. 1519 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:44,720 And then I found all these revenue sources to this woman because there's like 100 and 1520 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:48,560 some videos each costing two to $25 to watch. 1521 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:54,640 And then all this paperwork get to file and send into like a random IRS office somewhere. 1522 01:12:55,200 --> 01:13:00,400 And all this shit, these global stamps you have to have and this crap, right? 1523 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:00,960 Yeah, for sure. 1524 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,720 And it's like, well, she has to be paying tax on that. 1525 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,040 Otherwise, she would go to jail. 1526 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:11,840 So immediately these people should have their tinglers like boom, I'm paying this lady money. 1527 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,800 I'm buying books off of Amazon with her name on it. 1528 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,920 Somebody's paying tax on there's there's another option, Mike. 1529 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,120 What is that? 1530 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:19,600 Are you ready? 1531 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:20,480 Are you ready for this? 1532 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:29,840 Is maybe she's not paying taxes on any of it, but but she has a sealed court deal to keep doing 1533 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,840 what she's doing as long as she turns over the names of those people who buy her books. 1534 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:40,320 That is a real possibility, you know, because they are maybe she's turned informant. 1535 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:41,360 She's a rat. 1536 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:46,080 It could be they're classified as like a domestic terrorist group from what I understand, 1537 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,600 which I think is a little extreme. 1538 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,520 Yeah, probably a little extreme, but you know. 1539 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:52,160 Yeah. 1540 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:56,080 Individual members of this group have gotten into gunfights with police. 1541 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,320 Obviously, totally. 1542 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,640 Well, it's been on the news, right? 1543 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,240 What's not on the news is when these like they really should 1544 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,280 have an expose on these guys that are going to jail for tax evasion. 1545 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:08,400 Right? 1546 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,240 Like, yeah, that's the biggest thing. 1547 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,800 Like, no, you have to pay taxes. 1548 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:17,120 No, you need to drive with a license plate and a driver's license. 1549 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:17,760 Right. 1550 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:18,400 Yeah. 1551 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:27,040 You know, and like, do I constitutionally with the with the understanding of the founding fathers 1552 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:32,080 and the you know, all the articles and everything like and I'm no expert. 1553 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:32,960 I'm no expert. 1554 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,480 I haven't read the oh, man, I'm blanking. 1555 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,840 But when they wrote under like pen names. 1556 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,120 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1557 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:42,320 The Federalist Papers. 1558 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,440 Yeah, Federalist Papers. 1559 01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:48,880 So they weren't necessarily like everybody should be pay taxes to the federal government, 1560 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,800 but they weren't necessarily opposed to like taxes to the state because like the state 1561 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,480 governments are supposed to be higher in power than the federal government and all that stuff. 1562 01:14:56,480 --> 01:15:02,480 So like, I understand like the general like feeling of the federal government shouldn't be 1563 01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:09,520 able to withhold like highway funds because you don't have the right legal drinking age 1564 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:10,080 or something. 1565 01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:10,800 You know what I mean? 1566 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:15,360 And there's instances of that happening where the federal government says, oh, your legal 1567 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,560 drinking age is 18. 1568 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,600 We want to be 21. 1569 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,560 So we're not going to give you the funds for this or that or the other thing. 1570 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:24,800 And then every state is like, yeah, you know, I told you when sounds fine to us. 1571 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,320 Give us the money, whatever. 1572 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,400 Like, so I don't think there's anybody that will sit here and tell you that it's a perfect 1573 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,120 system. 1574 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:35,040 I don't think there's anyone that would sit here and tell you that, you know, income tax 1575 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,760 for us should be a thing. 1576 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,520 Well, it isn't for Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk and Bill Gates. 1577 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:46,480 But I don't think that anybody here would tell you that, you know, not paying income 1578 01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:52,720 tax is a wise choice and that you won't go to jail for it just because you think that 1579 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,320 it isn't constitutional. 1580 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,480 You know, I mean, that's I mean, I guess that's kind of the point is like they're saying that 1581 01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:04,880 the de facto government, which means the government of fact, regardless of legality of fact, 1582 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:09,280 de facto of fact, they're the government, whether they're in the right or wrong does 1583 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,560 not matter anymore. 1584 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:11,440 They're the government. 1585 01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:16,960 In fact, if the government, in fact, if the de facto government wants taxes, you pay the 1586 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,680 fucking government who wants taxes or you go to jail. 1587 01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:23,520 And that's the wording that they use the de facto government. 1588 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,080 So they want they want they want taxes. 1589 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,600 You don't think it's legit. 1590 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,720 Well, then you fucking pay taxes and you try and fight it in court. 1591 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,640 Like you don't you know, like you can't just say I don't pay taxes because you're the de facto 1592 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,160 government, not the de jure government. 1593 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:37,200 Well, they're the de facto. 1594 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,560 They're going to get they're going to fuck you up. 1595 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:39,920 And they have and they will. 1596 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,360 Well, they have and they will. 1597 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:42,560 And they'll continue to do so. 1598 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:47,520 So it's almost like the the Manson episode we did where like he was like part of the 1599 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,800 thing, you know, and like maybe the perfect fall guy. 1600 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,320 But like they were still doing shit. 1601 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:56,800 And we have maybe there's proof up there that it was like a covert op or like whatever the 1602 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,840 fuck. But it doesn't matter because you can't really go up against it. 1603 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:00,560 Like what are you going to do? 1604 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:05,520 You're going to say I'm going to file a suit on behalf of the Manson clan that they were 1605 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,800 manipulated by the de facto government, who is also you. 1606 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,880 And you were going to like, no, it's not going to happen. 1607 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:11,680 Like, sorry. 1608 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:12,320 You know what I mean? 1609 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:13,440 Oh, yeah. 1610 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,960 So like I so like I understand like that portion of it. 1611 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,880 But the wording they use is very bizarre because they're like, yeah, the de facto government 1612 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:21,760 won't let us do this. 1613 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,760 And they're thinking that it means that the government doesn't have any legal rights to do 1614 01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:30,720 so, but de facto is better than de jure all day long, like all day long. 1615 01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:36,000 Like if you're the government of fact of real life circumstances, it doesn't matter what 1616 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:36,800 the law is. 1617 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,520 You know what I mean? 1618 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,600 So like the wording is a disconnect, I guess, for me from them. 1619 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:50,640 But again, it's all if somebody is poorly educated, I'm sure that the ten dollar words 1620 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:57,120 that are splattered in there and the complexity and the circles that she's using in logic 1621 01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,040 make sense, I'm sure. 1622 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:00,000 Oh, yeah. 1623 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:06,000 But to somebody who learned how to read and write, it doesn't make any sense. 1624 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:06,720 Right. 1625 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:08,400 And a lot of de facto privilege. 1626 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,960 Well, a lot of people that just because you graduated high school does not mean that you 1627 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,640 know how to read and write. 1628 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,720 Go and read a college textbook, you know, read a legal document. 1629 01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:23,680 If you cannot go through and read a court document, then you really don't know how to 1630 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:24,400 read. 1631 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:24,640 Right. 1632 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:31,120 You can read like the newspaper potentially, but you're not your level of reading comprehension 1633 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,480 is not high enough to be able to analyze things. 1634 01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:39,840 And my reading comprehension level is not enough to like analyze things and make recommendations 1635 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:40,880 to other people. 1636 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:45,200 You know, it's enough for me to like survive in society more or less. 1637 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,760 You know, I can read technical specifications. 1638 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,800 And it's enough to know when you're being fleeced. 1639 01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:51,760 Right. 1640 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:52,400 You know what I mean? 1641 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:56,880 Like, I feel like our reading comprehension is fairly similar. 1642 01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,880 And we like we enjoy reading, like we read like this, what we do or, you know, listen 1643 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,080 to audiobooks or whatever. 1644 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,600 But like, it's all the same thing. 1645 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:10,400 Like you're taking in words that are more so than the words that newspapers use or the 1646 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:12,960 like the the trending. 1647 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:18,480 Like, here's the breaking news, like fucking Kanye West or whatever the fuck calls themselves 1648 01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:20,720 up now is like anti-Jewish. 1649 01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,320 But they can't even use like anti-Semitic anymore because nobody knows what that means. 1650 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,640 Like they have to say like he hates Jews. 1651 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:27,200 Right. 1652 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:28,800 Well, that's like the other word means. 1653 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:37,280 I remember the political analysis in 16 about the Trumpster fire and they did a vocal analysis 1654 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,400 or an analysis of all the words he was using in his speeches. 1655 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:46,720 And they said that his speeches are done at like a fourth grade level so that everybody 1656 01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,720 can understand what he's saying. 1657 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:49,200 Right. 1658 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,120 And that was one of his political strengths. 1659 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,360 Yeah, it was one of his political strengths. 1660 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:57,760 Like, yeah, if from a certain perspective, you could try to denigrate that. 1661 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:03,600 But it was really a good move because every person in a way it is. 1662 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:04,080 Yeah. 1663 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:08,640 In a way, it's like extremely it was extremely successful, obviously. 1664 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:09,840 Yeah. 1665 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:10,640 In my life. 1666 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:16,480 That doesn't mean that it's not evil and manipulative, but it just means it's smart. 1667 01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:16,960 Right. 1668 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:22,800 I don't know of any other politician in America in my lifetime that has the sort of like blind 1669 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,480 allegiance that he has. 1670 01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:25,680 And there's good reason for that. 1671 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:32,080 Good, not necessarily good, like morally good, but good, like rational, rational reasons. 1672 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:36,000 Yeah, reasons you can actually like back up with stats or something. 1673 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:36,480 Right. 1674 01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:42,080 Like Obama had that for a minute, but nothing like the Trump. 1675 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:46,080 I mean, there are I drive past a Trump shrine all the time. 1676 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,400 And it's like, yeah, people are really committed. 1677 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:53,680 And it's because of factors like he's he does his speeches at a fourth grade reading level. 1678 01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:57,200 No matter how dumb you are as an adult, you can understand what he is saying. 1679 01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:58,560 And it's all emotional. 1680 01:20:58,560 --> 01:20:59,840 Oh, yeah, no fact. 1681 01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:01,360 Very few facts. 1682 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:06,160 And even if he did speak in facts, his political enemies would bury it, which is unfair. 1683 01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,760 But, you know, that's why so many people said, oh, he talks like me. 1684 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,920 Like, yeah, he does because you're a dumbass. 1685 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:12,960 That's not a good thing. 1686 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,680 That's that says something about you. 1687 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:16,480 Yeah. 1688 01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:18,640 More about you than it does about him. 1689 01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:19,200 Mm hmm. 1690 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,000 So well, I am done with my cigar. 1691 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:23,520 There we go. 1692 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:27,760 I am ready to fill out my sovereign citizenship application form. 1693 01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:28,960 Hell, yeah. 1694 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:34,320 I've got I've got my one buckaroonie to send to honor the Fourth Reich. 1695 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,320 And then I should be set. 1696 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:42,480 I'm going to have my own island in the Caribbean and people of any age can come there and fuck. 1697 01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:43,520 Just kidding. 1698 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:47,120 That was Epstein Islands and that's everybody else in government. 1699 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,320 Oh, my God. 1700 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,880 And that is yeah, that will never end. 1701 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:54,880 They know because they're never going to tell us that it was them. 1702 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,160 But we all know it was them. 1703 01:21:56,160 --> 01:22:00,720 But as long as they don't say it was them, there's still some like plausible deniability. 1704 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:05,520 Just like Anna, whatever the fuck is like, oh, yeah, you don't have to pay income tax, 1705 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:06,560 even though I do. 1706 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,800 And I'm an informant for the IRS. 1707 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,600 And you're all fucked by associating with me. 1708 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,120 But you're totally not. 1709 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,960 The government doesn't have any say. 1710 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,760 And I can't vote because I don't believe in the 19th Amendment. 1711 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:18,400 Right. 1712 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:19,200 You know what? 1713 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,800 I didn't think about the is she an informant angle? 1714 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:23,600 OK. 1715 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:24,320 It's possible. 1716 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,520 Because she did an interview with Southern Poverty Law Center. 1717 01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,920 Like, she's the public face of a lot of this stuff. 1718 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:30,480 Yeah. 1719 01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:32,640 And she's not in any sort of legal trouble ever. 1720 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:33,360 No. 1721 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:37,360 So like I say, clearly, she's doing everything she ought to be doing. 1722 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:37,920 Yeah. 1723 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:42,800 If you're doing everything she has to be doing or she has some special arrangement that nobody 1724 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:43,600 else can get. 1725 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:44,320 Right. 1726 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:45,760 Which is the same difference. 1727 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:46,640 Well, yeah. 1728 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:47,120 Yeah. 1729 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:52,240 And then you can talk to some psychobabble about the British Crown Corporation. 1730 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:58,160 British Crown Corporation running the Maritime Court Systems and the United States Corporation, 1731 01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:58,800 blah, blah, blah. 1732 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,400 Which also is not true. 1733 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,040 But it's meaningless garbage. 1734 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:05,600 Come on. 1735 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:05,920 Yeah. 1736 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:06,400 Yeah. 1737 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:12,480 It's like I said before, if you go to King's Cross Station, there's a platform 9 and 3 quarters. 1738 01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:14,320 Does that mean that Harry Potter is real? 1739 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:14,640 Right. 1740 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,960 Or did they put the sign up after the book was famous? 1741 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:17,520 You know what I mean? 1742 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:18,160 No. 1743 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:19,280 It was always there, man. 1744 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:20,080 It was always there. 1745 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,000 It was there because of states' rights. 1746 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,000 It was there because of states' rights. 1747 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:24,800 Yes, exactly. 1748 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:31,360 So anyway, guys, I hope you enjoyed the episode and are now informed. 1749 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:38,080 And if you were leaning towards the state assembly persuasion, hopefully I. 1750 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,120 Please don't. 1751 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:44,480 Have exposed enough of their ludicrous, like what would it be, like insanity? 1752 01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:46,320 Like it's just insane. 1753 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,760 It's hilarious to me. 1754 01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,800 It's silliness to the utmost degree. 1755 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,680 But I do want to do some final thoughts on this cigar. 1756 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,680 What are your thoughts on this one, Mike? 1757 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,280 Well, I'm still smoking it. 1758 01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,320 I have about two inches left, which is no surprise. 1759 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:01,120 But it's good. 1760 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,120 It's starting to turn a little sour at the end. 1761 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,720 But the body of it was good. 1762 01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:12,080 I think for the H up in cigars, the Cameroon is where it's at. 1763 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,680 This one was good, but not as good as the Cameroon. 1764 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,840 I don't know if it was worse. 1765 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:18,880 It was darker. 1766 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:19,600 It was darker. 1767 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,280 And now at the end, it's getting sour. 1768 01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,320 It turned sour and the Cameroon did not turn sour like that one. 1769 01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:25,840 I burned my fingers on. 1770 01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:26,880 And that is one. 1771 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:27,600 Yes. 1772 01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,880 So I think they're both good sticks, right? 1773 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:31,440 They're not. 1774 01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:32,400 Neither of them are bad. 1775 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,080 But I think the Cameroon has the edge for me. 1776 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:41,600 I would say by the facts, the Cameroon has to have the edge because it did not get sour 1777 01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:42,080 at the end. 1778 01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:43,600 And this one is good. 1779 01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,400 Because it did not get sour at the end, and this one is. 1780 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:47,120 Yeah. 1781 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:51,200 I did enjoy the cigar more at the front. 1782 01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,720 OK, yeah, that's fair. 1783 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:53,600 Yeah, I did. 1784 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:54,400 Because it's darker. 1785 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:55,840 And I like that darkness. 1786 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,520 You know, I like darkness too. 1787 01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:03,280 But I feel like the overall experience of the Cameroon was just better, slightly. 1788 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:04,640 Like not drastically. 1789 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:09,800 But if I went in and I had the choice between this one and the Cameroon, 1790 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,680 I'd pick the Cameroon, I think. 1791 01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:12,680 Yes. 1792 01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:13,640 I would have to agree. 1793 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,160 Yeah, they're both good sticks. 1794 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:16,120 They're both good sticks. 1795 01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,200 It's not, you know, nothing against this one. 1796 01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:23,480 Just if you're going right down, in my opinion, if you're going right down, both of them, 1797 01:25:23,480 --> 01:25:25,200 I'd go Cameroon over this one. 1798 01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:26,520 But both are a good choice. 1799 01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:27,440 Right. 1800 01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:31,880 So OK, well, hopefully, like I say, hopefully everybody is now 1801 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:36,480 aware of the potential scam that is the Sovereign Citizen Movement. 1802 01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:39,800 I did want to ask one more question. 1803 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:44,320 And this might be the deal breaker for the Sovereign Citizen Movement. 1804 01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,000 What is their stance on circumcision? 1805 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:50,640 Well, since the law of the land is based on the Ten Commandments, I'm going to guess that 1806 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,120 the law of the land is pro-circumcision. 1807 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,200 Well, fuck them then. 1808 01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,640 Anyway, thanks for listening. 1809 01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:57,640 Be safe, have fun. 1810 01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:16,400 I'll be right back.