1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,400 Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Mike. 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,400 And I'm Nate. 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,920 And the awkward pause is we are looking longingly into one another's eyes because for our 20th 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,720 episode of season 2, we are in person. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Yeah, yeah. 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Yeah, yeah. 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,080 What are we smoking, Mike? 8 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:25,440 We are going to start La Gloria Cubana series. 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,880 We smoked the series art last year, which was a favorite. 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,840 I really like those, but today we're going to smoke the Spanish press. 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,920 Now this looks to me to be a box press, Mike. 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,760 It is a box press, Nate. 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,400 And it smells just fantastic. 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,400 It really does. 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,680 And it had some good amount of spice on the cap, getting ready to cut it. 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:50,400 So we are sharing a cutter and lighter because Mike's cutter and lighter are previously indisposed 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,400 at the moment. 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,400 Yes, they are. 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:58,280 Their whereabouts is really none of your or the listener's concern or business, but it 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,760 will take us a little bit longer to light up this time than the last time. 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,000 And we are coming off of the 4th of July weekend here in America. 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Yes, we are. 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,880 4th of July was bad here. 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,880 It rained. 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:10,880 Very boring. 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,960 4th of July was not boring by me. 27 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:13,960 No, yours wasn't. 28 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:14,960 Are you going to tell the story? 29 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:15,960 We might as well. 30 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:17,400 We might as well. 31 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:22,760 Before we get into the story, this very good first couple puffs or, you know, puff and 32 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,800 a half, whatever we are into it. 33 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,800 Spicy. 34 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:26,800 I'm getting a lot of spice. 35 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:27,800 Yeah, it's spicy. 36 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,400 I think the mixed drinks here will pair nicely. 37 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,400 Yes it will. 38 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,040 Which you probably did on purpose. 39 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,200 Yes, I did. 40 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,280 So for the listeners, we have two mixers. 41 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:46,000 One is a whiskey sour, my style, and then the other is a blueberry infused Moscow meal. 42 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,000 I am excited. 43 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Yes. 44 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,360 So there we were, 4th of July. 45 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:56,040 We have a three-year-old daughter and a one-month-old son and we are on the patio out back and it's 46 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,360 fenced in with a cedar fence because we're a corner lot. 47 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:07,200 And then we can see across into three different backyards back towards, you know, the rest 48 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,520 of the houses through chain link fences, a series of chain link fences. 49 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:16,880 There is a rental property, a couple of houses down from us that has a whole slew of children 50 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,540 that have kind of free reign over the neighborhood. 51 00:02:20,540 --> 00:02:25,280 My wife and I have never seen an adult with them ever in like an eight-month span or however 52 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,880 long span that they've been there, right? 53 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,960 This speaks a lot to your neighborhood because last time I visited, these children were biking 54 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,240 and one of them abandoned their bike in the middle of the intersection next to your home. 55 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,240 Yes. 56 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,680 And it's a four-way stop, kind of, but there's no stop sign. 57 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:47,620 They live directly next to some neighbors that we're friends with and the husband in 58 00:02:47,620 --> 00:02:53,600 that house needs to daily pick their bikes up from behind his car when he backs out of 59 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,880 the garage because they just leave them there. 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,880 Oh wow. 61 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,600 And they have a dog that runs around off leash, a little puppy that bites people. 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,600 They've left basketballs and all sorts of things and they come all the way up into our 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,400 yard almost up to the house, the front yard. 64 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,960 And so I've got them on security camera there doing that. 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:18,280 And so we're sitting out there and it's got to be, I don't know, probably, well, the big 66 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,560 incident happened at almost 11 o'clock at night, but there was an incident slightly 67 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,880 before that, maybe around 9 45 or something. 68 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,320 Maybe it was almost 10. 69 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,320 I don't know, but whatever. 70 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:36,200 There was a mortar or something that exploded in a yard or alleyway and we looked down and 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,840 all those kids were down there and they got really quiet and kind of like scattered and 72 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,840 hidden. 73 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,860 So I know for the legal minded of you, that does not prove that they were the ones that 74 00:03:44,860 --> 00:03:50,680 did it, but for those of you that are into men's fashion or classic Disney movies, if 75 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,240 the shoe fits, right? 76 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,240 Exactly. 77 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Men's fashion. 78 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Very nice touch. 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:01,200 So, and we were like, wow, that was crazy irresponsible to somebody have gotten them 80 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:06,400 some fireworks that are illegal by city ordinance and state codes and things like that to these 81 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,760 unsupervised children. 82 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,280 So we're sitting there and it must not have been almost, it must have been almost 10 o'clock. 83 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,320 It was just about 10 o'clock because we let our daughter stay up late because we bought 84 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,120 two little fountains, right? 85 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,120 To do after dark. 86 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Oh sure. 87 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,120 This is kind of, she's three. 88 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,520 So it's kind of her first 4th of July that she can kind of participate. 89 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,720 And we did some smoke bombs earlier and some little like those little snap popper things. 90 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,720 Snakes. 91 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:30,720 No snakes. 92 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,720 No snakes? 93 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,240 Just a little, you know, those little like things that look like tea bags and you know, 94 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,240 Oh yeah, snaps. 95 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 96 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,240 Snaps or pops or whatever they're called. 97 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,240 Yeah. 98 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,240 Different brand names and things. 99 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,760 So we're sitting there, it's my old time and we're sitting there and I believe I was enjoying 100 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:49,480 a tequila cigar and all of a sudden a fortunate sun starts playing because a mortar went off 101 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,600 right against our garage from the alley. 102 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,400 So we knew it came from the direction back of those kids and they were all standing out 103 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,920 there and all looking right at us. 104 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:03,600 And again, for those lawyers, does not prove anything. 105 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,580 But again, for those that aren't lawyers. 106 00:05:06,580 --> 00:05:11,140 So I got upset because we had our, you know, infant son on the patio. 107 00:05:11,140 --> 00:05:13,820 We had Sarah's sister on the patio. 108 00:05:13,820 --> 00:05:16,260 We had our three-year-old on the patio. 109 00:05:16,260 --> 00:05:19,760 So I said, we've been working with our daughter about home words and things. 110 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,800 And so when she hears us say something that's, you know, like a swear word or something, 111 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,800 we'll say, yeah, those are fine to say at home. 112 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,240 We don't say those out in public. 113 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,600 So I definitely shouted some home words across the chain link fences. 114 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,560 I think I started with, because they're all looking and so I yelled real loud in a booming 115 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:42,720 man voice, you better check yourself before you get fucked at these kids. 116 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,560 Little kids, they're middle school and grade school probably. 117 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,560 Old enough to cause mischief. 118 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,000 Old enough to cause mischief and old enough that they swear on their own out and about 119 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,000 in the neighborhood. 120 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Oh, for sure. 121 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:00,280 So, you know, was it the best choice on my part to, you know, drop F-bombs right at kids? 122 00:06:00,280 --> 00:06:05,640 Probably not, but they just torpedoed our garage and I have a newborn and, you know, 123 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,320 other family members that we should not be getting torpedoed because there's a fair amount 124 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,320 of tree cover there. 125 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,400 So go find a field and let your mortars off. 126 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,200 Don't launch them down the alleyway. 127 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,120 Like up, like, I was thinking like an M-80. 128 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,980 Yeah, it was like, they were one shots, whatever they were. 129 00:06:21,980 --> 00:06:24,920 They weren't the huge, huge mortars, but they were like big enough to- 130 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,080 Like a Roman candle that won, like a single- 131 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,080 Yeah, but a little bit bigger than a Roman candle. 132 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,080 Oh really? 133 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,360 Yeah, because a Roman candle is not a huge deal. 134 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,120 No, you can shoot each other with those. 135 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,720 Yeah, these ones were not ones you would be shooting people with, at least without eye 136 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,960 and ear protection, the amount of bang that they made. 137 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,120 So I kind of chewed them out a bit, just screamed at them. 138 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:51,400 And then I sat down and told our daughter like, yep, that's the wrong way to use fireworks. 139 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,440 And we've been telling you with your sparklers and with these fountains and things and whatnot, 140 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,440 like point them away from people. 141 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,080 And, you know, because even if it's a sparkler, it's not going to hurt anybody, but you have 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,640 to learn the safety basics first. 143 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,440 And I didn't think anything of it. 144 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:10,400 And it was probably, I don't know, 20, 30 minutes later, I get a notification on my 145 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,560 phone, because I moved ever since the catalytic converter incident. 146 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:21,060 I moved my outdoor camera to the cover of the driveway, people approaching on the driveway. 147 00:07:21,060 --> 00:07:23,840 So I go and it's this older man. 148 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:29,980 And I can't remember if it was the, I don't know, maybe 12 year old kid or if it was the 149 00:07:29,980 --> 00:07:30,980 older man's wife. 150 00:07:30,980 --> 00:07:34,520 I'm not saying he's married to a 12 year old, I can't remember who was there with him initially, 151 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,480 because at least three or four different people kind of like were his entourage throughout 152 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,160 the let's say heated discussion. 153 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,700 And he was ready to fight this guy. 154 00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:47,480 He came over and he was like, were you telling, were you yelling at my grandkids? 155 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,140 And I was like the ones that hit my garage with a mortar. 156 00:07:50,140 --> 00:07:51,440 And he's like, what right do you have? 157 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,720 What gives you the right to talk to my grandkids that way? 158 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,640 And I'm like, the first amendment, man. 159 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,680 But you know, he wasn't really there to debate legality and things. 160 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:00,680 And he was upset. 161 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:06,080 I tried not to be upset because I was holding our one month old son at the time when he's 162 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,600 launching into this tirade. 163 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,020 His whole gist initially was, you have a problem with my grandkids. 164 00:08:11,020 --> 00:08:12,320 You don't go talk to the kids. 165 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,880 You talk to me. 166 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,760 And I'm like, well, they launched a mortar at our garage. 167 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:16,800 He's like, they don't have mortars. 168 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,200 I would never let them do that. 169 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,760 My man, I saw them like bathing in the church down the streets, water feature fountain in 170 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:24,760 the front. 171 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:25,760 Like it's a Catholic church. 172 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Mother Mary knows what they did there or whatever they worship in Catholicism. 173 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,760 Oh, pedophiles. 174 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:32,760 That's right. 175 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:38,440 Anyway, that's neither here nor there. 176 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,440 But I kept trying. 177 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,440 He's like, you don't know me. 178 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,440 And I'm like, oh, well, I'm Nate. 179 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,440 You know, what's your name? 180 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,440 And I held out my hand. 181 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,840 He's like, I'm not shaking your hand the way you've been disrespecting me. 182 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,640 And I'm like, okay. 183 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,680 You know, and I just tried to play it super cool. 184 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:51,080 And he got angrier and angrier. 185 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,000 Like the more friendly I was trying to be. 186 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,400 And he's like, are you telling my grandkids you're going to come over and pop them? 187 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,000 And I'm like, in my head, I'm thinking, well, I told them they would get fucked up if they 188 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,000 kept doing the thing. 189 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,400 But I'm not going to correct you right now because you seem angry enough. 190 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,600 And I'm sure the kids can't swear in front of you because you're an angry fellow. 191 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,080 And I said, well, I'm sorry. 192 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,080 And you're right. 193 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,840 I should, I didn't know you were down there. 194 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,280 And had I known, I would have come down and talked to you instead of talking to the kids. 195 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,280 And he's like, what do you think? 196 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,840 It's okay to tell them, like they're going to get popped and stuff. 197 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,160 And I'm like, nope, you're probably right. 198 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,000 That's probably a bad choice of words on my part. 199 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 And he just got angrier and angrier. 200 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,640 And then he's like, you don't know, you don't know me. 201 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:25,640 You don't know who I am. 202 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:26,640 It's the hat. 203 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,760 And he was wearing like, I don't know what, like a Straffadora hat thing or like, I don't 204 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:30,760 know what it was. 205 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:31,760 I can't remember. 206 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:32,760 It's some kind of hat. 207 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:33,760 I got, yeah. 208 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,920 And it's like you wear in the summer. 209 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,800 And he goes, and because I'm black. 210 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,840 And I'm like, okay, well, I mean, the hat is a great disguise. 211 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,280 You know, he took the hat off and I'm like, oh, oh, it's Clark Kent. 212 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,280 It's Superman. 213 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,600 Oh, oh, I know him. 214 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,480 The black thing doesn't really have anything to do with it because I can't remember white 215 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,400 people's names either that I meet. 216 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,400 Right? 217 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Like I can't remember anybody's name and I've never met this guy. 218 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,840 So of course I don't know him. 219 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,720 That's like going to a restaurant or bar that you've never been to and asking the server, 220 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,720 like I'll have the usual. 221 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,720 Yes. 222 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:09,680 It's like going to a restaurant or bar and telling a waitress, you don't know that you 223 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:10,680 want the usual. 224 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:11,680 Yeah. 225 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:15,120 When they say what usual, you don't know who I am. 226 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,120 Oh, it's the hat. 227 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,120 Okay. 228 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,120 You take your hat off and then they know, even if they never met you before. 229 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,700 So he also mentioned he worked for the state and then he threatened that he could have 230 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:25,880 my ass fucked up or something. 231 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,320 It was kind of really bizarre turn of events in the conversation called the cops. 232 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,600 I know it's such a bitch move too. 233 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:39,000 And well, it's kind of a bitch move, but you have to understand that I have small kids 234 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,480 and a family and I need to have something on record. 235 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,480 That's also true. 236 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,840 So it's more, I don't think he's going to do anything because it's been, what a week 237 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:48,840 almost. 238 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:54,120 I've never seen another adult and the kids have been doing their daily rounds about the 239 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,600 neighborhood on their bikes and scooters and leaving things still where they go. 240 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:03,120 So I'm sure whatever he was or wasn't on, slept it off for him and he forgot the whole 241 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,120 altercation. 242 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,480 Oh, you know, he was getting liquored up. 243 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,920 Fourth of July, fourth of July. 244 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:07,920 I wasn't. 245 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:08,920 I don't know that Mike. 246 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:09,920 I don't know that. 247 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:10,920 You know, he was getting liquor. 248 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:11,920 That's a bold assumption. 249 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,880 I'm guessing that the kids came over and told a version of the story. 250 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:22,760 See, that's where it gets interesting because he said they weren't doing that with the mortars. 251 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,040 And with as angry as he was when he did show up about half an hour later, and that was 252 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,920 the important bit from earlier, it took him about half an hour to come over and be hopping 253 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:30,920 mad. 254 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,280 So my guess is, and this is just my guess, is that he was passed out drunk in the basement 255 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,840 and the kids went to wake him up. 256 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:42,160 And then he came out and said, oh no, my grandkids aren't shooting mortars at people as he stumbled 257 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,340 over the empty mortar casings, which we saw on the alleyway the next day in their trash 258 00:11:46,340 --> 00:11:49,760 bin, not in their trash bin, but in their trash bin area, because why would they put 259 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,440 them in the actual trash bin? 260 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,440 Right. 261 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,320 So anyway, I called the cops and two cops showed up and one was a younger cop and one 262 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,720 was an older cop. 263 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,520 And I kind of told them the rundown of the thing. 264 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,440 And I was like, yeah, you know, he threatened me and stuff with, you know, he said he could 265 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,000 fuck my ass up or something. 266 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,040 And the younger cop goes, so that's kind of a weird threat. 267 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,520 I said, I know, but some people pay for that. 268 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,680 And the cops almost died laughing. 269 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:18,040 But anyway, and they were like, well, we can go talk to him if you want. 270 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,320 And I'm like, I don't really want that. 271 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,400 I don't really want to escalate things any further because I tried to be nice and calm 272 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,160 and not give him a reason to get upset more than he was. 273 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,160 Right. 274 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,760 You know, and they're like, well, okay, your best bet probably is just to let us file the 275 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,760 report. 276 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,520 And then if he comes back or causes more trouble, we've already got an incident on file and 277 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,000 then we can proceed from there. 278 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,920 So yeah, it's not really, you know, it's not it's not real. 279 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,520 I wasn't trying to do it as a bitch move because if it was a bitch move, I would have had him 280 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,200 go down and like I would let him get wound up in front of the cops and then they could 281 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,520 like tase him or whatever they need to do. 282 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,160 You know, you know, but I just wanted to have kind of a paper trail or record. 283 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,400 Therefore, if something does happen later, it's easier to say, well, look here, see, 284 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,400 right. 285 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,160 If something were to happen, I doubt it because that was the first and only time I've seen 286 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,160 him so far. 287 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,160 So right. 288 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,880 I've seen their mother when I was there. 289 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,880 But one of the times, oh, really? 290 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,520 There's two families like that. 291 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,440 OK, because there's a duplex. 292 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,440 Yeah. 293 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,440 Next to the lawn care guy. 294 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,440 Yeah. 295 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,440 Across our driveway. 296 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:17,440 Yeah. 297 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,280 And they were so loud and she was so loud because she will she will scream obscenities 298 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:26,280 or that they put up their own fence. 299 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,480 And then there's this other one that's a couple of houses down from that, like maybe two houses 300 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,480 down from that. 301 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,040 But on like our side of the block, right. 302 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Our side of the alley. 303 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,440 And those kids mostly just run around and leave stuff all over the place, go up in people's 304 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:38,440 yards and. 305 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,440 Throw garbage in the garbage. 306 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,880 I got those kids throwing garbage in the garbage. 307 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,760 And taking dips in water features in church ones. 308 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,200 I thought those were the kids you were talking about. 309 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,920 No, the other kids are a little bit older and they like to be a little. 310 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,800 The other kids are older, more profane and a little more like you just kind of want to 311 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,020 steer clear of them. 312 00:13:55,020 --> 00:13:57,000 These other younger kids go around and ask. 313 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,400 They ask Dev, one of our guests, if he had a bicycle. 314 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,920 And when he said that he did, they said, oh, well, we need one. 315 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,120 And I was like, well, that's cool. 316 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,120 But you can't have mine. 317 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,600 I think he told me that. 318 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,800 We were talking about it because I thought it was kind of cute. 319 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:18,040 Because I having it's like Dennis the menace kind of that's how I look at it in my head. 320 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,040 Yeah. 321 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,040 I'm like, oh, that's kind of fun. 322 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,560 You know, like drunk grandpas fill in the garden pool or whatever. 323 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Yeah. 324 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:29,880 Well, I'm so like so my share has been a little more hostile in attitude towards these kids. 325 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,960 Like she doesn't like them up in the yard and all this stuff. 326 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,440 And I'm like, they're not really harming anything. 327 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,880 And they're leaving their stuff. 328 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,920 And if I find basketballs, like in the street outside of our driveway or in our driveway, 329 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,280 I toss them right in the trash. 330 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,520 You know, like, oh, I would be like kids. 331 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,600 Just if you have to leave it somewhere, put it on the lawn. 332 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:48,600 Don't leave it in the street. 333 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,200 No, if it's in the street or if it's on our lawn, it's going to crash the eagle. 334 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Yeah. 335 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,960 There's a little patriotism happening at Mike's place. 336 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Yes. 337 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:00,960 Location unknown. 338 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:06,960 We're in a deep bunker cave somewhere sitting where Saddam used to hide out. 339 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,600 But they will throw their belongings over the fence of the neighbors that we know that 340 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,360 are direct neighbors of them. 341 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,360 And like those two are terrified because they have a dog and they don't want the kids to 342 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,120 throw something harmful to the dog or like abuse their dog because they're clearly abusing 343 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,120 this puppy. 344 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,880 But ever since like the mortar incident is kind of like, one, you keep giving mortars 345 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,240 and it's not a full blown. 346 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,800 It's not like the big like inch or two inch shells or whatever that you would get in Wisconsin, 347 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:35,800 right? 348 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,800 Yeah. 349 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,800 As a Minnesotan. 350 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,240 Do they sell fireworks like that in Minnesota? 351 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,320 I don't think they sell anything like that. 352 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,840 They sell them, but you can't buy them with a Minnesota license. 353 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,800 And the same in Wisconsin, they sell them. 354 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,080 But if you have a Wisconsin license, you can't buy them in Wisconsin. 355 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,400 So that's why you cross the border. 356 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,400 I see. 357 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,300 Fourth of July time, which I didn't do because we have small kids. 358 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:56,160 So I just wanted to get a couple of little fountains, everything legal, whatever. 359 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,480 When I was a kid, I remember you couldn't even get black cats. 360 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,480 Yeah. 361 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:00,480 You couldn't even get M 80s. 362 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,640 We got M 80s all the time, but we used to go to the reservation to get all the stuff. 363 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,920 You could buy quarter sticks of dynamite. 364 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,720 They didn't care. 365 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,400 We had one guy, we had one guy buy one and he's like, oh, this is going to, this is going 366 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:13,400 to real. 367 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,060 And he got one of those old steel coffee cans and he's like, okay, I'm going to put the 368 00:16:17,060 --> 00:16:19,880 coffee can over the top of this course, stick a dynamite and it's going to launch it way 369 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:20,880 up in the air. 370 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,120 And right before the thing went off, my dad said to us three kids real quick, he goes, 371 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,680 hide behind the wood pile because that can did not go up. 372 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,040 It went out and fast. 373 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Oh yeah. 374 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,040 Yep. 375 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,040 I can believe that. 376 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,040 I knew a guy who shot a propane tank. 377 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,040 Okay. 378 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,760 That same thing, but it didn't explode. 379 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,960 It just goes in the opposite direction of the bullet hole with all that pressure. 380 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:40,960 Yeah. 381 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:47,160 So, you know, not, not, not age appropriate fireworks for that age group or for maybe 382 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,560 any unsupervised children. 383 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Right. 384 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,560 Bottle rockets. 385 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Give kids bottle rockets. 386 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Yeah. 387 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Bottle rockets is fine. 388 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:54,560 Yeah. 389 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,560 12 year olds can handle bottle rockets. 390 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Give them a bottle though, is a, hold them in their hand and then they'll be hurt. 391 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:59,640 Yeah. 392 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:00,640 Yeah. 393 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:01,640 You only get hurt once that way. 394 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,640 Right? 395 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,640 Yeah, that's right. 396 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,640 I didn't even get hurt. 397 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,640 I saw somebody else get hurt. 398 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,640 Yeah. 399 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,280 Learn, learn through other people's mistakes, I guess. 400 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,040 But I think that brings us, unless there's anything else you wanted to add about that. 401 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:17,240 I've got a whole bunch of the audio and video from my security cams about that incident. 402 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,480 So it was my only question was, did you get the whole incident before it was saved? 403 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,480 Yeah. 404 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,480 It's saved. 405 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,480 All the, all the bits are saved. 406 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,800 I've got like four clips of video ranging in length. 407 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,480 And the one I sent you was the end, the 30 seconds of the ending. 408 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,240 So I have yet to like, I'm going to stitch them together and maybe try and put subtitles 409 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,160 on there and stuff, you know? 410 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,160 I'd like to see that. 411 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,160 And then just have it. 412 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,160 Yeah, I'd like to see that. 413 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,160 And be like, here, you can see the whole interaction. 414 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,160 Do you have the explosion on video too? 415 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,160 I suppose you should. 416 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,760 I don't know if, I guess if the sound triggered it, but I didn't get really a notification 417 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,280 from that. 418 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,760 So I don't think so because it's more visual tripped trigger. 419 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:50,760 Yeah. 420 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,780 But you showed me could have been, I was thinking, I'm like, this could be an internet video 421 00:17:53,780 --> 00:17:55,280 that's clearly out of context. 422 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,360 I don't have context for it. 423 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,560 You explained the context obviously, but yeah. 424 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,560 Yeah. 425 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,560 Like me watching it. 426 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,360 I'm like, this is, this could be anything. 427 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:06,360 It could be literally anything. 428 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:07,360 Yeah. 429 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:09,040 And then so in the middle of it, oh yeah. 430 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,360 And then he had his, he had an older, like, I don't know if you saw him on the video, 431 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:18,200 there's like an older, like 17 year old, like really gangly looking kid that came over. 432 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,680 That was maybe like six, three. 433 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,880 Oh, for like backup or something. 434 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,000 Cause I think this guy really wanted to throw hands and I'm like, I'm not really in the 435 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,000 mood for that. 436 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,600 I don't want to throw hands, despite what I said on our episode with Dev and wanting 437 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:32,600 to get into a fight. 438 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:37,440 You know, I figured probably not the best with my sister-in-law and my small children 439 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,440 around. 440 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,640 No, no, not a good thing. 441 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,080 I just tried to defuse it. 442 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,760 Well, defusing confrontations are probably the best bet 100% of the time because you 443 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,760 never know. 444 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,920 But you could have had a gun, he could have had a gun, he could have had a knife and was 445 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:54,920 willing to use it. 446 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:55,920 You know what I mean? 447 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:56,920 Yeah. 448 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:57,920 Yeah. 449 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:58,920 Any number of things. 450 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,920 You just never know these days. 451 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:03,720 There's been people being shot for just turning around in somebody's driveway these days. 452 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,520 So I do have to comment really quick. 453 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,240 Mike has a really nice Ash going. 454 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,480 I do have a nice Ash and this is spicy and delicious. 455 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,360 I was fully expecting this cigar to perform. 456 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:16,360 Admireably. 457 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:19,920 Yeah, these Liguria Cubans are generally good. 458 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,360 I don't think I've had a bad one. 459 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:22,360 Okay. 460 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:25,120 The Series R is my favorite that I've had so far. 461 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:26,120 Yes. 462 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:27,120 How many of them have you had? 463 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:28,120 Have you had several over the years? 464 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:29,120 Have you had the other two over the years? 465 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:30,120 Several over the years. 466 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:32,640 I've had the N, which we're going to do next. 467 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,640 Okay. 468 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,640 Spoiler alert. 469 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,640 Spoiler alert. 470 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,160 But over the years, I've had a number of Liguria Cubans at different places. 471 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,160 You know what? 472 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,720 The Golden Leaf back in the day when I was in uptown, I had a couple there. 473 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,720 Okay. 474 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,720 Yeah. 475 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,520 Just like standard cigar that you can find damn near anywhere if there's a cigar lounge. 476 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,360 North Dakota, they had a lot of them when they had cigar lounges. 477 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:56,280 You can find them at golf courses. 478 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,280 You know what I mean? 479 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,960 These are good ones to try because you'll find them if you're at a place that sells 480 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,960 cigars. 481 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,760 They will probably have at least one Liguria Cubana. 482 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,760 Yeah. 483 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,320 Even like, I don't know about a full on gas station, but some of those gas stations or 484 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:17,160 service stations or little market things have a wall humidor kind of thing about the size 485 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,160 of a soda refrigerator. 486 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,160 Yeah. 487 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,320 You go to a big ass truck stop on Interstate. 488 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,320 Yeah. 489 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,320 Yeah. 490 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,320 You'll probably find one there. 491 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,320 Yeah. 492 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,240 They're pretty standard, but they're good, I think. 493 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,720 Well, we're going to try some because I haven't had a bad one yet. 494 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,720 Yes. 495 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,440 I wanted to shift over into our topic here. 496 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,440 Oh, okay. 497 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,440 I figured you were going to vamp. 498 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,760 No, I wanted to vamp a little bit. 499 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,280 Kind of like get through the 4th of July craziness. 500 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,280 Yeah. 501 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,400 Well, quick wrap up. 502 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:51,440 I did an online training course on 4th of July because it was raining and I did chores 503 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,600 because I got up like four hours before my Sarah. 504 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,600 Yeah. 505 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,280 Because of course I'm on, I worked the day before and the day after 4th of July. 506 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,240 So of course I fell asleep at like eight on the couch or whatever. 507 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,240 Yeah. 508 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,240 No. 509 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,240 I got up at five in the morning. 510 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,240 Yeah. 511 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,240 Yeah. 512 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,240 And then I started doing my chores. 513 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:16,880 And then I went to bed early on 4th of July because I worked all day kind of. 514 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,880 Yeah. 515 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:24,040 I do feel like last year and the previous year, I mean, this is our third, I guess going 516 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,920 on fourth year in our house. 517 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,920 It's been that long. 518 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:28,920 Yeah. 519 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,920 It's been that long. 520 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,440 And next year is our 10 year wedding anniversary, if you can believe that. 521 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,440 I cannot. 522 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,440 That's crazy. 523 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,440 Yeah. 524 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,440 That's crazy. 525 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:44,200 But I feel like the past couple of years, the whole month of June and July were firework 526 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,520 fun time down in the cities, right? 527 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,520 Oh yeah. 528 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,980 Every night starting maybe like the second week of June, you'd have people shooting off 529 00:21:51,980 --> 00:21:54,640 fireworks and it's like, come on. 530 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,960 But this year it was really confined to like the 4th of July and maybe like a day or two 531 00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,960 on either side. 532 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:00,960 Yeah. 533 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,960 We didn't really get like the middle of June. 534 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,920 And I think as the restrictions are all gone, the COVID restrictions are all gone and people 535 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,520 can get out and do things still. 536 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,880 So well, I hear even today there are people shooting fireworks off in the middle of the 537 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,880 damn day. 538 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,880 Yeah. 539 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,880 Yeah. 540 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,880 So I think there were fireworks till like one in the morning on 4th of July. 541 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,280 It was on like a Tuesday or something like that. 542 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,280 But yeah, they were shooting fireworks all night long. 543 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,040 Woke me up at like 1230 or something like that. 544 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,000 Like I get, I don't know which, my neighbors are miles away. 545 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,640 So they had them shooting some big fireworks to wake me up. 546 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,640 Yeah. 547 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:41,160 So I figured we'd talk about a little bit about different kinds of criminal law stuff, 548 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,520 partly inspired by the 4th of July antics, but mostly inspired by something else that 549 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,520 will be made clear to you, Mike and the listener a little bit later. 550 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:56,640 So in America here we've got, and these are all just American, I don't know what you call 551 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:57,640 them. 552 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,120 So we're going to kind of go through infractions, misdemeanors, felonies, okay? 553 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:05,080 For the legal system and what each one is and things like that. 554 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,080 Petty misdemeanors, yeah. 555 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,080 Yeah. 556 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,080 And I don't know how much you know about kind of the definitions of all of these things, 557 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,920 but we're going to start with the least serious, which is an infraction. 558 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,840 So an infraction is a violation of a rule, ordinance or law. 559 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,480 In most jurisdictions there's no jail time with an infraction. 560 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,560 It's not going to appear on a criminal record. 561 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,640 Usually it's a payment or fine. 562 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,440 But the federal law classifies an infraction as a crime with a jail sentence of not more 563 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,640 than five days. 564 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,160 So it's kind of a small thing. 565 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,800 So traffic tickets are an infraction. 566 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,600 There can be other things like trespassing, littering, disturbing the peace and other 567 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,040 kind of petty offenses. 568 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,880 So it's generally, you know, the police officers see something wrong, they write you a ticket 569 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,280 and then you have to pay a fine. 570 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,280 Okay. 571 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,680 And sometimes, you know, you can go to court to contest it the same as you can any other 572 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,680 thing, right? 573 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,640 That ash, by the way, don't break it up. 574 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,640 Yeah. 575 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,040 That's a good solid like inch and a half. 576 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,040 It is an ash. 577 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,800 All right. 578 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,040 And the picture for this episode is going to feature Mike's, is this your Trump or Obama 579 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,040 ashtray? 580 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,040 This is the Trump. 581 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,040 Okay. 582 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,040 Yeah. 583 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Yeah. 584 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,040 And we talked about his fancy ashtray. 585 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:17,560 You can have a fancy ashtray from any president without pledging loyalty to them or that sort 586 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,240 of thing before anyone gets up in arms. 587 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,240 I got it for free. 588 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,520 For those who are going to be offended. 589 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,520 Yeah. 590 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,240 And for those who aren't, I gladly accepted it. 591 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,240 That's a beautiful ashtray. 592 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,240 That's awesome. 593 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,400 I don't think it doesn't really say Trump on it. 594 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,200 No, it says Gurka and then it used to have the big Gurka symbol on the inside. 595 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,200 Oh, okay. 596 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,520 But then it all washed out because obviously it keep it clean. 597 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,520 Yes. 598 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,320 So after infractions, what comes next, Mike? 599 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,320 Do you know? 600 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,320 Petty misdemeanor. 601 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,320 All right. 602 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,320 Yeah. 603 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,320 Misdemeanors. 604 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,320 It's a whole class of misdemeanors. 605 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,320 There's a whole classroom of misdemeanor. 606 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,320 Yeah. 607 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,320 There's like petty misdemeanor and then gross, right? 608 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,320 Yeah. 609 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,840 So I mean like under here, and this is under the federal sentencing guidelines. 610 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,120 So state jurisdictions might be different. 611 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,920 But under federal, you've got class A, class B, and class C. 612 00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,920 Okay. 613 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:00,920 Okay. 614 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,680 And typically for a misdemeanor, jail time is served in a local county jail instead of 615 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,680 a prison. 616 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,480 And there's a big difference between jails and prisons. 617 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,600 I don't know if we have enough cigar to go into all of that. 618 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,200 That's not really the point of what we're talking about. 619 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,640 I think everybody knows the difference between jail and prison, right? 620 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,640 Do you think? 621 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,640 Yeah. 622 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,880 I mean, you know, maybe some Hollywood writers, they're like, oh, you're going to jail for 623 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:19,880 the rest of your life. 624 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,880 It's not really how jail works. 625 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,880 No. 626 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,880 But anyway, that's neither here nor there. 627 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,320 So we got a class A misdemeanor. 628 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:31,480 These are more serious offenses and misdemeanors in most states and under federal law. 629 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,280 It's a criminal offense that carries a potential jail term of less than one year. 630 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,880 So class A is one year or less, but more than six months. 631 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,360 So that's kind of the big guns on the misdemeanors. 632 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:46,360 Class B is six months or less, but more than 30 days. 633 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:47,920 So 30, 60 day range. 634 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,520 And class C is 30 days or less, but more than five days. 635 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,800 Remember, under five days or five days or under is an infraction. 636 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,800 Okay. 637 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,320 I've been convicted of a few infractions, but no misdemeanor, I guess. 638 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,320 Yes. 639 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:09,320 Now that I, I mean, I can either confirm or deny that I've had some violations. 640 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,480 Just like whoever had that bag of cocaine at the White House will never be found. 641 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,480 We don't know who that could possibly be. 642 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,480 I've never been caught with a bag of cocaine. 643 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,480 I can't tell you that. 644 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,480 Well, neither has you know who. 645 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,480 Uh-huh. 646 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,480 Anyway. 647 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,920 So a felony is the most serious type of crime. 648 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,560 We're going to skirt that a little bit. 649 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,680 We can talk about it at the end though. 650 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,440 So a felony is the most serious type of crime. 651 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,440 The term felony is not uniform throughout the United States. 652 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,440 The federal government defines it as a crime with a punishment of more than one year. 653 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,160 States can be less strict with that definition. 654 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,640 Maine and New Jersey do not classify their criminal offenses at all, according to this 655 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,200 website, which is findlaw.com. 656 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,280 Again, Mike and I are not lawyers. 657 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,720 You should not take anything we say as legal or medical advice. 658 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,720 No, not as much. 659 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,600 Or investment advice or anything. 660 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,800 Don't base your life off of us. 661 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,560 Unless you're going to try a cigar, then we would just tell you that don't smoke cigars 662 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,560 because that's bad. 663 00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,560 Okay? 664 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,560 First sip I had of the- 665 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,560 Oh, okay. 666 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:02,560 Oh, the blueberry? 667 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,560 Yeah, the blueberry. 668 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,560 Yeah, I was hitting this pretty hard at the blueberry pretty hard at the beginning because 669 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,760 it kind of balanced the spice off, but then I was like, I want a little more spice and 670 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,760 a little less sweet. 671 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,360 So I kind of shifted to the sour. 672 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:17,880 But okay, so in most states, the felony is referenced to the length of the sentence or 673 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,820 sometimes the place of incarceration and sometimes both. 674 00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:26,520 So Idaho defines a felony as a crime punishable by death or by imprisonment in the state prison. 675 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,400 And Georgia defines it as a crime punishable by death, imprisonment for life or imprisonment 676 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,040 for more than 12 months. 677 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,920 So it varies depending on where you're at. 678 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,920 Yes. 679 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,280 So we've got class A's through E. So class A felony is life imprisonment or death. 680 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,280 Or death penalty. 681 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,320 And this is the federal definitions. 682 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,240 Class B felony is 25 or more years. 683 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,120 Class C is less than 25, but more than 10. 684 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:54,440 Class D is less than 10 years, but more than five years. 685 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,240 And then a class E is less than five years, but more than one year. 686 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,160 So if you have any questions about infractions, misdemeanors and felonies, please consult 687 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,160 your lawyer. 688 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,160 All right. 689 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,280 Not chat GPT. 690 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,260 This brings us to the crux of our topic. 691 00:28:09,260 --> 00:28:13,880 Did you hear what they're doing in Michigan or what we're about to find out? 692 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,960 People think what they're doing in Michigan. 693 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,960 No. 694 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,960 Okay. 695 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:25,440 Michigan, their house, I believe, passed a bill to extend civil right protections to 696 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:31,200 LGBTQ community with their governor Gretchen Whitmer expected to sign the measure into 697 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,040 law when it reaches her desk. 698 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,280 It passed and it would codify protections from discrimination based on sexual orientation 699 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,200 and employment, housing and other areas. 700 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,520 Now a lot of people have been saying that this bill, and I don't have the full text 701 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:51,440 of this bill, but the big outrage about this bill is people believe that the way it's written 702 00:28:51,440 --> 00:29:01,480 will convict people who willingly use the wrong pronouns, will convict them of a felony 703 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,280 carrying a five year prison sentence and a $10,000 fine. 704 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,280 Nice. 705 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,640 I don't think that... 706 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,960 In Canada, they did pass a law like that and they are punishing people from what I understand, 707 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,680 at least social media news, which is trash. 708 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,680 Everybody knows that. 709 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,680 Yes. 710 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,360 In the United States, that would be struck down instantaneously. 711 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,480 I can say whatever I want within... 712 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,720 I can't say whatever I want, but I can say many, many things. 713 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:34,360 As long as I'm not inciting violence or panic or something, there's some limitations. 714 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,520 That article that I just read was from thehill.com. 715 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,200 The Hill is a very reputable source. 716 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,200 Yes. 717 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:45,240 There's one here, and this is from foxnews.com, and this is one of the top hits that came 718 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,920 up on my Google search when I was first informed of this. 719 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,640 I'm sure this is culture war. 720 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,640 Yeah. 721 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,360 It says, Michigan House passes a bill that could make using wrong pronouns a felony finable 722 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,140 up to $10,000. 723 00:29:56,140 --> 00:30:00,340 Of course, there's a completely different slant on the Fox News site about it, and without 724 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:02,040 knowing the text of the bill. 725 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:09,240 Then we've got here the Detroit News, where it says politics, and we've got Chad Levengood 726 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,960 saying that Michigan lawmakers aren't trying to criminalize pronoun use. 727 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,640 Because if you criminalize pronoun use, who's going to say that they even knew what this 728 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,280 person's pronouns were? 729 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,280 Right? 730 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,280 Absolutely. 731 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,320 There's a ton of gray area for abuse by the, air quote, victims of this. 732 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,320 This is an aside. 733 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Yes. 734 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,320 You work in a professional environment, and so do I. 735 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,320 Oh. 736 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,040 From the outside, yes. 737 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,600 Have you found yourself, and I have, outside of my immediate work group? 738 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,000 I don't use pronouns at all. 739 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,000 No. 740 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,000 I just don't use them. 741 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000 I call everyone a fucker. 742 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,000 It's gender neutral. 743 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,000 Yeah. 744 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,000 I just don't use them at all. 745 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,520 I either don't refer to their name at all, or I refer to their name, or I just don't 746 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,520 refer. 747 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,720 I don't use the first person at all. 748 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,720 Okay. 749 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,720 I just don't. 750 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,720 I avoid it at all costs. 751 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,240 Most of my emails and stuff are really short. 752 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,920 They're either informational from me, or requesting information from them. 753 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,920 Yes. 754 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,760 I can avoid any sort of first person, generally speaking. 755 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Yes. 756 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:15,800 If I am writing something, or maybe speaking at work, I'll try and remove a lot of gendered 757 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,560 terms from my lexicon, as it were. 758 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:26,320 I also try not to make sport analogies when I'm talking, because I went through a HR sensitivity 759 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,360 training, or it wasn't really sensitivity training, because that has a bad connotation, 760 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,360 like I did something wrong. 761 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,360 Yes. 762 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,760 We watched a video, or watched a speaker, or somebody. 763 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:41,080 There's a female speaker talking about just the differences between how women are raised, 764 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,640 and how men are raised. 765 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,400 A lot of it comes down to sports versus tea parties. 766 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,800 In sports, you can get really mad at the other team, and then go out for a beer with them 767 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,800 later. 768 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,800 Absolutely. 769 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,800 Be best buds. 770 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,560 In a tea party, if somebody upsets you, you have to be polite, and you can't get all your 771 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,560 anger out. 772 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,800 Then you hold a grudge, generally. 773 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,200 That's the watered down cliff notes of the spark notes of the summary. 774 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,840 That probably holds for their entire lives, for some people. 775 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,560 As somebody who's not hugely into sports, I just try not to use a whole lot of sport 776 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,560 analogies, because ever since I was... A lot of people don't understand them. 777 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:23,600 In college, I was an English writing consultant for the college athletes, but all the tennis 778 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,600 players were Romanian. 779 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,600 Sure. 780 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,560 I had to explain in one of the books, one character calls another character a pumpkin. 781 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,720 Like, oh, hey, pumpkin, how you doing? 782 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,440 The Romanians thought it was hilarious. 783 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,880 Why are they calling them a gourd? 784 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,160 It makes no sense. 785 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,720 It's not a term of endearment over there. 786 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,400 I find generally it's better to not use specific analogies and things. 787 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,040 We got to hit this one out of the park. 788 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,040 What does that even mean? 789 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,120 I think it took a respectful workplace training recently. 790 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,960 That was a refresher or whatever. 791 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,040 It was mandatory for everybody. 792 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,320 I found one thing interesting, probably the only thing I took away from it long term, 793 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:10,120 was that when speaking in a group setting, you should avoid using idioms. 794 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Because the origins of many idioms, which we covered, I think, before, are sometimes 795 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,360 unsavory or perceived to be unsavory at the very minimum. 796 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:26,320 I don't know if those were full on idioms, they were more the etymology of common phrases, 797 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,120 which I suppose could be an idiom. 798 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,160 Not everybody understands idioms the same way. 799 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,580 I was just talking about this, I don't even remember now with who, but we were talking 800 00:33:36,580 --> 00:33:42,920 about how it might have been, I think it was with another one of our guests, Dave. 801 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,200 He was the one incidentally that told me about the Michigan felony thing because he is moving 802 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,080 to Michigan at the end of the month. 803 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,680 They're moving back to Michigan to be closer to their family because his parents are getting 804 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,680 older and whatnot. 805 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:01,760 He told me about this and he said, yeah, they're making it a felony to use pronouns incorrectly. 806 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,700 According to the chart news and the Hill, that wasn't really the gist of the legislation 807 00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:10,320 that was passed by the House. 808 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,600 I would have to read the full bill because as we know, the Affordable Care Act wasn't 809 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,560 in a bill called the Affordable Care Act, it was some kind of housing referendum. 810 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,720 Would there be something in this bill that makes it a felony? 811 00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:23,720 Possibly. 812 00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:24,720 I haven't read it. 813 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:26,760 I don't live in Michigan, so it doesn't really affect me or bother me. 814 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,120 I bet you that nobody in Michigan's ever read it. 815 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,120 I'm just guessing. 816 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,120 I'm guessing. 817 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,440 Going back quickly to the idioms is that even within America, where you would think all 818 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:43,120 of these phrases and terms and things would make sense, you've seen those maps where it's 819 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,160 like, what do you call it? 820 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,880 Soda, pop, cola, or Coke. 821 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,840 It will light up the areas that call it certain different things. 822 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,120 One that I know from my childhood is my dad always called the water fountain a bubbler. 823 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,480 He grew up on the east side of Wisconsin, so it was for all intents and purposes, the 824 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,960 east coast. 825 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,840 A lot of people on the east coast call it a bubbler. 826 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,560 A lot of people on the east coast call it a four-wheeler quad instead of a four-wheeler 827 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,560 ATV. 828 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,200 Even within America, and America's just huge, so it makes sense that different dialects 829 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,840 and different phrases and different things would come into the modern. 830 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:23,000 One that threw me, I remember this, was snowmobile versus snow machine. 831 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,000 That threw me. 832 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000 Okay. 833 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,200 First time I heard snow machine, I was like, oh, what the hell is that? 834 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,320 Sounds Canadian. 835 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,200 Bubbler was, I thought it was a drink. 836 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,200 I thought it was a mixer or something. 837 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,200 First time I heard it, I was like, what is that? 838 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,200 I didn't even change it because I used to say pop. 839 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,240 Now I say soda pop for the most part because I just added the soda to the front of the 840 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:48,440 pop because people weren't understanding what I was saying, where I was living at the time. 841 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,320 I lived there for so long. 842 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:56,320 Well, I had a lot of good ones and luckily I only lived in Oklahoma for five years. 843 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,320 They had some good ones. 844 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,720 There was some interesting, mostly it was pronunciations. 845 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:07,560 I remember my freshman roommate or dorm mate or whatever you call it, roommate I suppose, 846 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:08,880 one day he was asking me, hey, do you have a pen? 847 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,880 Do you have a pen? 848 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,880 I'm like, what do I look like? 849 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,880 I know what that is. 850 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,880 A sewing person? 851 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,880 No, I don't have a pen. 852 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,160 He's like, no, a pen to write with. 853 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,160 I'm like, oh, a pen. 854 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:23,640 Then of course I say bag and that's really one of my only phrases that squarely puts 855 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,080 me up north in there. 856 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,360 A lot of the other stuff that I say, I was told multiple, multiple times throughout my 857 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,680 five years living down there that I didn't have much of an accent except for when I said 858 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,680 bag. 859 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,960 Any A word, bag, rag, I say them all along. 860 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,480 Then I picked up oil. 861 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:45,200 I used to say oil and now I say oil. 862 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,600 I do do the ope when you're passing somebody in the supermarket. 863 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,640 Did I tell my potato au lait story on the podcast yet? 864 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,640 You remember? 865 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,640 You don't know that one? 866 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,640 All right. 867 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,680 Growing up, my dad loved Taco John's because it was a fixture of his high school life. 868 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:09,040 They would go and they would get burritos and the au lait and then just scarf them 869 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,040 down. 870 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:16,080 He wouldn't call them au lait, he called them potato olies. 871 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,080 He didn't know. 872 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,280 He didn't know and I didn't know. 873 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,760 It was actually the first time I went into the Taco John's here. 874 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:30,000 I went in and I was like, yeah, I want a burrito and I want a big thing of the potato olies. 875 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000 The guy goes, you mean au lait? 876 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,440 I'm like, yeah, au lait is definitely a Mexican, Spanish term. 877 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:42,520 Olee is like Svenan-ole and not the right cultural background. 878 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,880 That makes sense. 879 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,360 But now I'll still find myself when I'm trying to talk about them, it's been so ingrained 880 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:55,120 for 20 some years that there are potato olies that I have to stop and force my brain out 881 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,480 of that habit, out of that rut from childhood. 882 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,480 I'd be like, oh lait, oh lait. 883 00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,480 Don't stop it. 884 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,480 Let it go. 885 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,720 For whatever reason, I call them antibiotics. 886 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:06,160 Why do I say antibiotics? 887 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,160 I have no idea. 888 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,160 You don't want no biotics in your bloodstream. 889 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,160 I have no idea why I say antibiotics. 890 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,720 I'm an idiot, I guess. 891 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:18,680 I figure I'll bring back the potato olies when I get a little bit older than I can be 892 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:19,680 the eccentric old man. 893 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,680 The eccentric young man. 894 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,680 Fuck him. 895 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,680 I'm already eccentric enough. 896 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,480 I felt kind of silly. 897 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,320 I mean, not really because I don't care. 898 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,520 I don't have a huge ego, but I'm wearing a really bright, kind of Hawaiian-esque tropical 899 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,520 button down shirt. 900 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,520 And flippy floppies. 901 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,960 I wear shorts, flip flops, and I've got blue painted toenails that my three-year-old did. 902 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,960 I didn't notice the toenails. 903 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,400 Mike's there had a bunch of people over to shoot some guns. 904 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,840 He was like, oh, I got to come back. 905 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,680 They got an eagle back here to shoot. 906 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:51,320 I go trudge him back and I'm like, all these guys are looking like... This is not meant 907 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,960 as a slight, but the people you'd expect to see at the gun range. 908 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,560 They're wearing appropriate clothing for shooting guns. 909 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,960 I'm just like, I'm here to look fancy. 910 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,600 Yeah, I dress like a slob right now. 911 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,400 I wanted to get nicer clothes on, but- Yeah. 912 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,560 For all of our listeners at home that can see us now. 913 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,560 Right. 914 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,560 Yeah. 915 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:15,480 I'm wearing a work shirt and Carhartts, which is my typical day-to-day, but a very used 916 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,120 work shirt, as you can see. 917 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,120 Yes. 918 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,440 So anyway, I guess, to bring this back is... Oh, here we go. 919 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,440 Here we go. 920 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,440 Here we go. 921 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,400 So it says here, this guy says, the guy from the Detroit News, some conservative critics 922 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,400 have taken a couple of words in the Bill's texts that say, any action that threatens 923 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,920 by word or act or interpreted it to mean that addressing someone as a he, when the individual 924 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,280 identifies as she, would be a threat punishable by up to five years in prison and a $10,000 925 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,280 fine. 926 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,700 The county prosecutor, the Democratic sponsor of the Bill, and two Republican lawmakers 927 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:49,420 who voted for it said critics are leaping to a legal conclusion that is nonsensical 928 00:39:49,420 --> 00:39:51,820 and not rooted in fact. 929 00:39:51,820 --> 00:39:56,640 This is where everybody can say your Hail Marys and praise Jesus. 930 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,880 It doesn't criminalize words set in the pulpit, said state representative Graham Filler. 931 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,080 In other words, preachers will still have the First Amendment right to criticize homosexuality 932 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,240 and gender identity without fear of prosecution. 933 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:12,600 But I don't know what that means for the rest of us. 934 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,040 They can't violate the First Amendment. 935 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,120 You can criticize people for whatever you want. 936 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,120 Yes. 937 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,120 I mean, come on. 938 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:23,760 But now it says here, the intimidation is defined as a willful course of conduct involving 939 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,720 repeated or continuing harassment of another individual that would cause a reasonable individual 940 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:29,840 to feel terrorized, frightened, or threatened. 941 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,400 And that actually causes the victim to feel terrorized, threatened, or frightened. 942 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,120 Which I think the definition is fairly loose. 943 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,800 But what I don't know this and I'm not going to look it up because I don't think there's 944 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,280 enough cigar left, I mean, maybe to look it up. 945 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,200 How is hate speech for race defined? 946 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,400 Is it defined the same way? 947 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,160 Are they just adding pronouns now in some of this gender stuff to the umbrella of hate 948 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,160 speech? 949 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,760 To be fair, I think hate speech can easily go too far one way or not far enough, right? 950 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,040 Depending on the context. 951 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,280 And that's the whole thing, I think, is the context. 952 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,880 I'm going to take a really strong take on this and people will not like it, possibly. 953 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,880 I'm sure I'll like it. 954 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,600 I think that hate speech is First Amendment protected speech. 955 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,120 Not that your employer, you know, there's limits to that, obviously. 956 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,160 Your employer definitely should be able to limit your hate speech. 957 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,240 Yeah, your employer is not bound by the First Amendment. 958 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,000 No, your employer is not. 959 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,040 And while you are at work, you generally don't have your rights. 960 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,040 You don't have a lot of rights. 961 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,720 You know, you can't carry a gun at most places of work. 962 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:31,960 You know, there's limits on... 963 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,960 Well, that was one of the... 964 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,000 For example, at my place of work, I can carry a knife, but it has to be less than four inches 965 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,000 long. 966 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,000 You know, there's other rules like that. 967 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,520 Consistent with Minnesota state law? 968 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,120 No, I'm pretty sure that you can carry longer than a four inch knife. 969 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,440 Well, the episode got crashed. 970 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,440 That's OK. 971 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,440 Is we're done with the cigar anyway? 972 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,160 We're damn near done. 973 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,960 Our eagle friends came into the house and now they want to hang out. 974 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,280 So we will. 975 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,280 So we will. 976 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,920 And I highly recommend the Spanish press. 977 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,080 If you see it and it's a reasonable price, give it a shot. 978 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,480 And you like spicy round things in your mouth, talk to Mike or get this cigar. 979 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,680 So does a party want to wrap up the episode? 980 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,760 You've been listening to Nice Ashes. 981 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,760 Catch us next week. 982 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,760 You safe have fun. 983 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,760 Bye.