1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,520 Welcome to Nice Ashes, I'm Mike. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,520 And I'm Nate. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,880 What are we talking about today, Nate? 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,800 Well, jokes on you, this is a cigar podcast, so let's talk about what we're smoking first 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,800 and then we'll talk about what we're talking about. 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:22,800 Oh, jeez. 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:23,800 Yes, yes, yes. 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:24,800 What are we smoking, Mike? 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,680 We are smoking a Gurka Titan. 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,680 Damn. 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,640 Yep, I'm hoping that this will be good. 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,640 We did. 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,640 This is our last one, right? 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,800 This is our last of the Gurka series, yeah. 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:37,800 For now. 16 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,120 For now, for now. 17 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,680 Our timing was good with the Titanic submarine, so. 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,200 Yes, yes. 19 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:49,560 I will gladly smoke this in honor of more billionaires dying. 20 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,560 We can only hope. 21 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,880 All right, and I feel this one's similar in size to the other two, like the Centurion 22 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:02,200 and the other ones that we had might be a tiny bit longer, though. 23 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,200 I don't know. 24 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,200 Possibly. 25 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,000 It's a different shape than the Centurion, but they're all about the same size. 26 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,600 They're like a Toro, not a Robusto. 27 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Yep. 28 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:18,420 I am pairing this with Heaven's Door double barrel aged whiskey. 29 00:01:18,420 --> 00:01:21,640 It's the Bob Dylan themed whiskey. 30 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,360 I've never heard of it, but it sounds wonderful. 31 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,200 This is the first sip of this one. 32 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,480 I've had the regular Heaven's Door whiskey, which is good. 33 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,320 This one is a little stronger, but very, very smooth. 34 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:37,960 I don't have any ice or whiskey stones or anything in there. 35 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:39,920 Just straight, and it is phenomenal. 36 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,920 Oh, good. 37 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,600 I'm pairing mine with lemon water because it is hot here. 38 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,240 Yes, it is. 39 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:52,080 It's been hot, but it rained today, and the high today where I'm at was 72. 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Oh, wow. 41 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,080 That was delightful. 42 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,080 Delightful. 43 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:00,280 Yeah, it's been raining here for three days, but it's still hot. 44 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Just the hot muggy, huh? 45 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,120 Yeah, it is borderline tropical. 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:11,080 All right, so I've got a story for you. 47 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:17,600 Before I launch into this story, I feel that we should come clean with our listeners and 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,480 let them know about our Facebook page. 49 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,400 If you want to interact with us on Facebook, we're now on Facebook. 50 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,280 We have been for a little bit, but we've been working through a backlog of recorded episodes, 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,880 so we hadn't had a chance to share that with you yet on the actual podcast. 52 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,360 We do have some lively discussions over there. 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:41,280 I mean, livelier than my personal Facebook page anyway, so that's a plus. 54 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,600 We check that and get notified on that. 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,160 If you want to reach out or give us a like or a follow, share us with your friends or 56 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,440 enemies like we always say, there's that over there. 57 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,920 There's a post on there more recently than my personal Facebook page, because I don't 58 00:02:56,920 --> 00:02:59,400 know when the last time I had a post on mine. 59 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,320 Yes, and more recently than my personal one too. 60 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,280 But now to my story. 61 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:11,840 When this episode comes out, June will have just wrapped up and we will be in July. 62 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,840 Okay. 63 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,040 It might even come out the day after, because what, the 4th of July is on Tuesday? 64 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,120 Yeah, because the first is Saturday. 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:27,040 Yep, so this one will come out on the 5th, so we'll be happy late 4th of July. 66 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:32,500 Hopefully you have all your digits from your firework extravaganza, but my story takes 67 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:38,160 place in June and our topic today takes place in June. 68 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Everybody knows June is Men's Health Month. 69 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,240 Okay. 70 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:54,600 So my wife and I went and we went to a concert in some unnamed town with some unnamed musician 71 00:03:54,600 --> 00:04:02,680 playing and we met some of this unnamed musician's cohorts or friends as it were at this establishment. 72 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,320 And my wife and I were sitting outside. 73 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,220 We had just had a baby. 74 00:04:06,220 --> 00:04:12,000 So I think we mentioned that on the podcast before that we were expecting a baby boy and 75 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,320 he came and he's here and he's nowhere near the cigar smoke for those of you that are 76 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,080 concerned, but he's doing very well. 77 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:27,060 So my wife was talking to these friends of a friend, let's say, and one of them had purple 78 00:04:27,060 --> 00:04:31,760 hair and was asking if we were planning to have more. 79 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,080 And she was talking to Sarah and not really to me. 80 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,440 I was on the other side of the table and she said, Oh, you planning on having more? 81 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,240 And my wife said, Nope, we're done having the kids. 82 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,960 We have a girl and a boy. 83 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,800 So we've got one of each. 84 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,560 And the first thing out of purple hair's mouth was you weren't going to try for a non-binary. 85 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,560 Really? 86 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,960 I was not expecting that. 87 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,440 No, it's a twist. 88 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:02,560 I lured you in and I was expecting something like that, but it was the well, how do you 89 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,200 know what they are until they tell you? 90 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,280 Yeah. 91 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:10,320 So now I looked it up since then. 92 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:16,640 One point six percent of the American population identifies as non-binary. 93 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,440 One point six. 94 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:23,640 Can you imagine how many times you would have to try to get a non-binary child to legitimately 95 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,000 get one? 96 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,520 That stat seems higher than it should be. 97 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:29,520 See what I'm saying? 98 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:35,280 Like it's one point six, but I'm saying it's probably more like point zero one six. 99 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:39,840 Well, so the first stat that popped up was five percent, but then I read on that what 100 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:45,040 the stat was actually referring to and it was trans and non-binary. 101 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,240 So they were lumping trans in. 102 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,580 So you lump all those two categories together. 103 00:05:49,580 --> 00:05:53,220 It's five percent non-binary one point six percent. 104 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:54,960 That might be over or under reported. 105 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,960 I don't know. 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:56,960 I didn't. 107 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:57,960 It wasn't. 108 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,680 I didn't have the time to want to go and dig into it further. 109 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,640 I just knew it was a small percentage. 110 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,640 Yes. 111 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,760 So I think I think it's you have a better chance. 112 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:14,680 You have a way better chance of being non-binary than you do of making money in an MLM. 113 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,360 Probably yes. 114 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:22,920 So then the next thing she said, this this woman or whatever they might identify as said 115 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,300 that they had a friend who was raising their child gender neutral. 116 00:06:27,300 --> 00:06:30,920 And she said, nobody knows what this kid's gender is. 117 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,500 And I piped in and said, people know. 118 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:34,620 And she's like, no. 119 00:06:34,620 --> 00:06:39,640 And I said, I assure you, people know the gender of that child. 120 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,480 And she kind of looked at me and I said, well, OK, I had met previously. 121 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:51,240 I've met one gender neutral child who was friends with my brother. 122 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,320 The parents were. 123 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,880 And so I went and saw them. 124 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,140 And then I asked my brother afterwards, I'm like, oh, how old is their son? 125 00:06:57,140 --> 00:06:58,980 And my brother goes, how do you know it's a son? 126 00:06:58,980 --> 00:07:00,040 Did they tell you? 127 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,640 And I'm like, no, it looks like a man. 128 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,360 It looks like a male child. 129 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,600 And he goes, well, they're raising a gender neutral. 130 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,020 And nobody's supposed to know. 131 00:07:10,020 --> 00:07:11,020 But you're right. 132 00:07:11,020 --> 00:07:13,240 It is a boy baby. 133 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,240 And I was like, yeah. 134 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,480 I mean, I guess there are some androgynous people. 135 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,160 But the hormones are just different. 136 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,840 At a certain point, you can tell. 137 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Right? 138 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:24,840 Yeah. 139 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:30,840 And then, of course, having small babies of your own helps you identify them as well. 140 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:37,680 So going in with more men's health month, I thought another story might be forthcoming 141 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,680 for you, Mike. 142 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,100 Oh, OK. 143 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:49,040 So I went to the Pride Festival yesterday down here in Minneapolis at Loring Park. 144 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:56,000 And I was going to I was conscripted or asked to take photos. 145 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,920 I don't know if conscripted is the right word. 146 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:04,820 Like I voluntarily did it to take photos of a mutual friend of ours who's a musician. 147 00:08:04,820 --> 00:08:11,020 So I went to go take some photos of them performing at the Pride Festival on a stage. 148 00:08:11,020 --> 00:08:15,880 And as I was trying to find this stage, there was a beer garden, a beer tent. 149 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:16,880 Right. 150 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,680 And you probably know what this material is. 151 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:25,680 It's kind of like what do they it's not like it's not like burlap, but it's the way this 152 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,040 very, very course is. 153 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,040 Yeah. 154 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,400 It's not like canvas was like it's like plastic and you can like print on it and things. 155 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,400 Right. 156 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:33,400 Sure. 157 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,400 Yeah. 158 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:35,400 It's like a plastic burlap. 159 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,400 I know you're talking about. 160 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,400 Yeah. 161 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,400 Yeah. 162 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,400 And they make signs out of it. 163 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,800 The material you're talking about. 164 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Yeah. 165 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,800 Yep. 166 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,800 Yep. 167 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,800 Yeah. 168 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:45,880 And so they put it on the they put it on the chain link fence and they had printed 169 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,560 on it all these signs, you know, like things printed on it. 170 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:53,400 And I was walking by and they were all pride flags. 171 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,680 And I was like, oh, OK. 172 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:57,060 Then they also had what each pride flag was. 173 00:08:57,060 --> 00:09:02,560 And so there was stuff for, you know, just regular things. 174 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:08,200 And then there was like twink and lipstick lesbian and everything else. 175 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,320 And I was like, that's a lot of oddly specific flags. 176 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,320 Right. 177 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,280 And then they have the WP flag on there. 178 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,680 You know, it's a pride in a color that is starts with the letter W. 179 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:21,680 OK. 180 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:25,920 No, I don't think they had that one. 181 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,960 Well, I'm saying they had all these pride flags on there. 182 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,960 Yes. 183 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:30,960 Yes. 184 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,240 So I thought for our episode tonight in honor of Men's Health Month, we can go and I found 185 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:41,080 now I found a list of the 36 queer pride flags you should know. 186 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,560 And this was published June 1st of 2023 on Advocate.com. 187 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:52,520 And I'll link the article so that you listeners, if you want to see all the pretty colors we 188 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,720 can go through and go through that. 189 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,880 So I thought it'd be fun to go through because I had no idea what a lipstick lesbian was 190 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,160 until I looked it up. 191 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,920 Should I look this up on my laptop? 192 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:03,920 I don't know. 193 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:04,920 Yeah, I guess. 194 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,640 Why don't I I'll just forward you the link here. 195 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:08,640 Oh, sure. 196 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,480 I guess like if if Mike and I ever planned anything, he would already have this. 197 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,560 We'd both be looking at it and we both say, hey, that's great. 198 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:19,240 But I figured we just start at the top. 199 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:24,640 The first one and this I'm just kind of giving giving Mike some time to pull the link up 200 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,280 that sent to you now, Mike. 201 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,440 The first one on this list is the Gilbert Baker pride flag, which is probably the flag 202 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:37,100 you're most familiar with if you're not deeply into the I guess they call it the queer culture. 203 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:44,280 So I guess I can say that I thought at one point here was kind of like a no, no to say 204 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,480 is that accurate or inaccurate, Mike? 205 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,480 It was. 206 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,520 It is for straight people. 207 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,540 It's kind of like other words that certain groups are in groups are allowed to say and 208 00:10:54,540 --> 00:10:56,160 out groups are not. 209 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,720 OK, well, this is this is from an article. 210 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:06,800 So I feel like I can say it in the context of what we're talking about here in this episode. 211 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,760 And we're trying to raise awareness for these different subgroups within this community. 212 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,360 But the first year and I'll just read. 213 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,360 So if you scroll down to the first flag there, Mike, just let me know when you're ready. 214 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,360 I am ready. 215 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,360 All right. 216 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,480 So this one is Harvey Milk challenge. 217 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:30,520 Gilbert Baker in 1977, who Gilbert Baker was a veteran who taught himself how to sew 218 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,040 to come up with a symbol of pride for the gay community and Harvey Milk. 219 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,360 There's I think it's a is it a Sean Penn movie? 220 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,600 There's a movie about Harvey Milk out there. 221 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,600 Yes. 222 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,180 But beside the point, I think there's more to that full story than this one flag. 223 00:11:46,180 --> 00:11:50,720 But the original pride flag was inspired by Judy Garland's Over the Rainbow. 224 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:57,560 And this flag was flown on the San Francisco Gay Freedom Day Parade celebration June 25th, 225 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:58,560 1978. 226 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:02,280 There's a little dispute, I guess, that we should mention on whether or not Baker was 227 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,440 the sole creator or not. 228 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,040 But it actually lists out what all the colors mean. 229 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:13,800 So it starts with hot pink for sex, red for life, orange for healing, yellow for sunlight, 230 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:19,680 green for nature, turquoise for magic and art, indigo for serenity and violet for spirit. 231 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:24,760 So the only thing is like sex sounds like that. 232 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,080 But but what have you. 233 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,720 So that was the original one, 1977. 234 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:35,720 And I guess poor Harvey, if we scroll down to the next flag, Mike, met his end at the 235 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,000 at the end of an assassination attempt that was successful. 236 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,040 And they wanted to change the flag. 237 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,040 So they did. 238 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:50,780 And they kind of dropped the hot pink because they had trouble getting the hot pink fabric. 239 00:12:50,780 --> 00:12:53,220 But I don't think the rest of these go down through all the colors. 240 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:57,360 So basically, it's very similar to the flag of above. 241 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,920 But there's a lighter purple instead of the hot pink. 242 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:01,920 Yes. 243 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,920 All right. 244 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,760 So is everybody still with us? 245 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:10,900 I know it's kind of hard to do like a visual flag thing on a podcast, but we're going 246 00:13:10,900 --> 00:13:16,500 to be getting into now that we've covered the two main ones, we're going to be getting 247 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:20,440 into more of the subgroups and things. 248 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:25,040 I guess there's two more two more kind of like generic generic ish ones. 249 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Yeah, the next one is the one that everybody thinks of as the gay pride flag, because it's 250 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,600 the one that was popular forever. 251 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,400 And it has fewer colors. 252 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,200 It only has six colors. 253 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,000 So it seems like there's a lot of economics pushing the number of colors down. 254 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Yeah, if you if you sorry about that. 255 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:49,560 I took a big old swig of Dylan whiskey and it went right right to the old back of throat. 256 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:55,400 Yeah, if any of you have done any kind of graphic design or wanted to get a t shirt 257 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,760 printed, you know that three colors is pretty much kind of like the standard. 258 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,840 And then if you want more than three colors, you get charged quite a bit for additional 259 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,360 color beyond that. 260 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,360 Yes. 261 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:12,160 The next flag down is well, they're they're including more people, they're being more 262 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,160 inclusive. 263 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,040 So the next flag down is the Philadelphia people of color inclusive flag. 264 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:23,240 So it says here that they made this flag because queer people of color are often not fully 265 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,640 included in the LGBT community. 266 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,720 So the city of Philadelphia specifically added two colors black and brown, the pride flag 267 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:30,840 in their honor. 268 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,000 The city had previously faced accusations of racial discrimination in its gay bars. 269 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:41,480 So I feel like this is probably a response to backlash, social media backlash or social. 270 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,480 I don't know what it does. 271 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,480 It doesn't say when this flag came into this. 272 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,760 But no, it doesn't have the date at all. 273 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:48,760 Yeah. 274 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:54,920 All I know is, is somebody who sometimes dabbles in graphic design and the things I'm not I'm 275 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,920 not hugely thrilled about the black and brown with the rest of the rainbow color, but to 276 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:00,920 each their own. 277 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:06,840 Well, you know, anytime that there's a controversy, instead of addressing whatever the underlying 278 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,320 issue is, you just kind of slap some paint on it and continue rocking and rolling. 279 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,520 So yeah, it's the American way. 280 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,520 Yes. 281 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,600 So this next flag, then I don't know if you want to take this one, Mike, this next one. 282 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,560 Oh, the progress pride flag. 283 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,520 Yeah. 284 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,440 Sorry, guys. 285 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,960 This is like a traditional gay pride flag on the right. 286 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:41,120 And then it's got white, pink, light blue, brown and black on the left coming in as like 287 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:49,040 an arrow. Yeah, an arrow or like a square tilted at a 90 or 45 degree angle or something. 288 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,960 Yeah, something like that. 289 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:57,920 We're really trying to, you know, understand all these different flags and the different 290 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,640 like sub subgroups that they represent. 291 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,840 Some of the graphic design, though, is. 292 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:09,120 And yeah, and this was supposed to have all the transgendered colors and black and brown 293 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,400 people and people with AIDS. 294 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:16,840 And it's the same thing that's been happening with this community in general, where it's 295 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,920 like they can't just have a group. 296 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,760 It has every individual subgroup has to be named in the flag. 297 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,880 And it's a lot going on. 298 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,880 It is hilarious. 299 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,880 Oh, my God. 300 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,880 The next one's even better. 301 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,880 OK. 302 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,800 But was there anything we needed to mention about about this one? 303 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,880 Just that they're adding adding in the more transgender. 304 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:45,640 Oh, a guy named Daniel Kawas are identified as queer and non-binary binary designed the 305 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,640 flag. 306 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:47,640 OK. 307 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,640 So, yes. 308 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,640 All right. 309 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,640 So now this next one. 310 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,160 And so some of these words, I think we're going to have to look up some of these things 311 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,880 because I honestly don't know what this means. 312 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,280 And maybe you do, Mike, because you're a lot more progressive than I am. 313 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,760 But this next one here, I'll take this one. 314 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,000 If you thought the last one's graphic design was bad, just hold on. 315 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,000 This is great. 316 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,160 No, I saw this. 317 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,640 What is the intersex inclusive progress? 318 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,200 Pride flag, which is a tongue twister in and of itself, just to say. 319 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:25,720 But this one was designed in 2021 by Valentino of a Chetty of Intersex Equality Rights UK 320 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,400 to include the intersex community represented by the yellow triangle and closing the purple 321 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,400 circle. 322 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,400 It's one of the most up to date LGBTQ plus legs available today. 323 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,880 I don't know what intersex is. 324 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:45,840 Intersex is kind of like non-binary or it's like non-binary, but I think that the intersex 325 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:50,600 people move between sexualities and genders. 326 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,280 If I'm up to date with my understanding, which I'm probably OK. 327 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,280 So yeah. 328 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,600 So here it says, and this is according to PlannedParenthood.org, intersex is an umbrella 329 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,800 term that describes bodies that fall outside the strict male, female, female binary. 330 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,040 So there's lots of ways someone can be intersex. 331 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,340 It's a general term. 332 00:18:07,340 --> 00:18:13,400 So I feel like we're kind of with these flags and subgroups, we're kind of like we're starting 333 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,640 all inclusive, right? 334 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,360 Like the whole subset of the queer community. 335 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:19,960 And then we're kind of working our way down and down. 336 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:25,240 So that's good to know that intersex probably encompasses a fair number of terms that are 337 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,840 more more commonly used. 338 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,120 I would say sure. 339 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:39,280 And see now this LGBTQ plus is not the term that I've heard is the common one now. 340 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:45,880 It's LGBTQ plus 2IA, no 2SIA. 341 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:46,880 Yes. 342 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:47,880 OK. 343 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,880 Sorry. 344 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,200 I think this stuff is also good to know. 345 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,200 Yes. 346 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,800 I think a lot of this stuff is it's going over the top and because it's so over the 347 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,360 top, it becomes very funny. 348 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:04,400 You know, they took something that was pretty serious and now they've made it silly by going 349 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,080 by jumping the shark, so to speak. 350 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,080 Yes. 351 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,400 But we're still going to go through because as ridiculous as some of these flags may be, 352 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,040 I was curious, having seen that, seen that printout on the chain link fence with all 353 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,040 the different flags. 354 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,360 And I thought, hey, it'd be fun to kind of go through this with Mike on our show. 355 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:24,360 Absolutely. 356 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:28,160 Smoking a Stoge and at least learn a little bit about the communities that they're representing, 357 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,560 despite the fact the flags look like they were designed by maybe a kindergartner with 358 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,400 a full box of crayon colors. 359 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,240 Well, other than the six colored flag, I'd never seen any of these. 360 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:43,000 So I guess we're all getting my initial genuine reaction. 361 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,160 Yes. 362 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,560 And you know, one of the one of the pride flags we're not going to talk about on this 363 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:53,080 episode is the I'm proud to suck cop dick flag, also known as the thin blue line flag. 364 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,240 We're not talking about the fascist, the fascist of America flag. 365 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,640 Yeah, the fascist appreciator flag. 366 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,680 I also like the conservative pride flag. 367 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,720 I think I showed you that one, didn't I? 368 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,000 I'm not sure. 369 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:11,880 It's like the fascist flag, except it has or yellow and green and red and blue and all 370 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,280 these other gate, these other pride colors. 371 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:20,960 It's supposed to be like cops and first responders and firemen and coast guard and army. 372 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,640 All the what are they called? 373 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,640 The service? 374 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Yeah, all the service, blah, blah, blah stuff. 375 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,560 You know, all the I'm a fascist piece of shit colors. 376 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,360 Yes. 377 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:37,400 So this next one, and I don't know, like, is this so the article says thirty six queer 378 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,200 pride flags, you should know. 379 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,080 Now we're on to this one called the queer pride flag. 380 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,840 And it's designed it's not even designed by a name. 381 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,040 It's a username from Deviant Art, the website, Deviant, where you can upload, you can you 382 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,640 can create your own digital drawings and things and put them up there. 383 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:59,240 But apparently this user, Pastel Memer, designed this in 2015 and added some pink and blue 384 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,160 shades to represent same gender attraction. 385 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,960 While orange and green stripes stand for non binary and gender nonconforming. 386 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,100 And the black and white stripes symbolize asexual, aromantic and agent. 387 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:16,000 And I feel like we'll get into should we look up some of those terms? 388 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,840 Do we need to know some of these terms? 389 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,840 Well, like, OK, so I guess like my question is, how is same? 390 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,840 What is it? 391 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:25,840 What did it say? 392 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:26,840 Same gender attraction? 393 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,440 How is that different than just being gay? 394 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,680 It's not. 395 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,440 It's both gays and lesbians. 396 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,440 Oh, OK. 397 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,440 Yeah. 398 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,240 That's part of that softening of language nonsense that we've been doing. 399 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,240 OK. 400 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,240 And, you know, that's fine. 401 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,720 I don't you know, it doesn't I guess I don't care if they want to be same gender attraction 402 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,320 versus a gay man or a lesbian. 403 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,680 No, it doesn't really matter. 404 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,560 I think it's weak sauce because, you know, I don't know. 405 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,640 You know, it's a softening of language. 406 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,000 We're going to see both sides, Mike. 407 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,320 We're not it's not going to be full on softening. 408 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,320 Some of it's going to be hard. 409 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,320 Nice. 410 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:10,680 Oh, speaking of hard, this reminds me a little pride aside at the Pride Festival. 411 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:16,720 I had gone maybe six years ago and it was a very different kind of a different vibe. 412 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:24,320 It felt a little more like I'd say maybe like Woodstock and less like an actual thing. 413 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,520 I mean, not not that it wasn't a thing, but when I was there six years ago, there wasn't 414 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,880 really a whole lot of booths and things. 415 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:36,080 And it was just a whole bunch of, you know, people, queer people and their advocates or 416 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:42,560 their supporters, and there was a lot of topless women with the pasties on and, you know, scantily 417 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:48,040 clad everybody and some music and just kind of like more like party vibes. 418 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:53,040 And this year there were a ton of booths, you know, like the 10 by 10 tents and things 419 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,640 and tables and whatnot. 420 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,760 And I was surprised how many churches had booths there and they were all handing out 421 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:00,760 stickers. 422 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,280 And so one was one had the rainbow and said, God is proud of you. 423 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,560 And they're handing out these stickers and another booth, which I should have stopped 424 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,560 and talked about. 425 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,400 It was it was very warm and I had to find the appropriate stage for the for the pictures. 426 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,160 But one was the booth was called Not All Christians Are Assholes. 427 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,280 So I feel like that would have been a very interesting conversation. 428 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:28,360 But I thought it was interesting to see all of these churches that were willing and wanting 429 00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:32,320 to reach out to the, you know, the queer community. 430 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,800 And I know that down here in the cities, there are a lot of churches that have will put up 431 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:43,680 rainbows on their LCD displays and say, you know, like all are welcome and whatever. 432 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:49,060 So there are very definitely some much more progressive churches down here than elsewhere 433 00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:51,360 in the state and elsewhere in the country, probably. 434 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,760 Well, they kind of have to be. 435 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,360 Most of them are losing membership, so they have to find a way to increase their revenue 436 00:23:58,360 --> 00:23:59,600 or a bankrupt. 437 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,600 Yeah. 438 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:06,840 And beyond the church booths, there's a booth that had a slew of dildos on a board and people 439 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,080 were throwing rings to try and get the rings over the dildos. 440 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,680 So it was really kind of the duality of man. 441 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,680 Right. 442 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:20,520 That's more of like the gay pride festival type of thing that I imagine, you know, that 443 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,520 you pictured. 444 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,520 Yeah. 445 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,040 But I will say there are far less topless people. 446 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:32,880 Kind of the trend this year, you know, my take on walking the red carpet at Pride Fest, 447 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,000 as it were, I guess, was there's a lot less like just general, a lot less nudity or implied 448 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,000 nudity. 449 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,120 And the women that were wearing pasties on their nipples were wearing kind of like a 450 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:47,240 vest or a jean jacket or something that covered, but they was all unbuttoned and they didn't 451 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,440 have any shirt underneath. 452 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,560 So it felt a little more refined or reserved than, you know, six years ago. 453 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:00,440 So it's kind of nice to see maybe corporatized, maybe it just grew up a bit, you know, all 454 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,240 of these people. 455 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,600 And now that gay marriage has been legal, or same sex marriage has been legalized, you 456 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,940 know, I feel that maybe they feel a little more comfortable and they don't feel the need 457 00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:13,800 to be as outspoken or out going. 458 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,800 Sure. 459 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,800 Or maybe corporatized too. 460 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,800 I don't know. 461 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,920 But I guess, you know, everyone's more comfortable and they don't, and they realize they don't 462 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:27,160 have to do as much to get support as they maybe had to in the past. 463 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,880 But the whole point of this aside was there was one guy who was wearing nothing but a 464 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,240 cock sock that kind of like wrapped around. 465 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,200 And I think it was like a cock sock thong thing, but it was like fully like hanging 466 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,360 and flopping, you know, it was like a rainbow flopping thing. 467 00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:47,120 And I was like, man, you could put that away anytime. 468 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:50,760 Was this guy like a twink or was he a bear? 469 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,920 What was his orientation? 470 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:59,600 You know, Mike, as as fascinated as you are by that, I did not stop him to ask him. 471 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,600 You can tell by looking, Nate. 472 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,480 You can tell by looking. 473 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,480 I saw I saw the bouncy bounce and I said, no, I'm just going to keep on going. 474 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,480 Oh, boy. 475 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,480 All right. 476 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,000 So why don't let's let's do this next one. 477 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,000 You do this next one. 478 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,760 This one looks like it's right up your alley. 479 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,600 OK, well, I will scroll down. 480 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,600 Yeah. 481 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:33,040 This is the queer people of color pride flag, and it is the gay pride flag, but with the 482 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,560 black power fist on top. 483 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,560 And that is awesome. 484 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:44,360 It was first flown in San Francisco pride in 19, but became widely popular during the 485 00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,040 Black Lives Matter protests of 20. 486 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:53,000 Flag symbolizes that intersection between fights for racial and queer equality. 487 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,680 So that is awesome. 488 00:26:54,680 --> 00:27:00,480 That is so lazy. 489 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,800 That looks like a middle schooler did that as a 15 minute project in computer class. 490 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,800 Yeah. 491 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,400 And it's weird because they I guess maybe. 492 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Oh, OK, I get it. 493 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,600 I get it. 494 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:19,240 So it's overlaid of just the standard what six color pride flag. 495 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,280 And the fist has colors in it. 496 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,400 And at first I thought there was muted colors of the color behind it because all of the 497 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,000 lines line up. 498 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:34,720 But it is actually going from like very, very dark skin to very, very white skin in gradients 499 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,720 up. 500 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,680 And I thought I was like, well, it's weird that they chose like kind of a tan or like 501 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:46,460 a white or white to be what was showing through from the red stripe. 502 00:27:46,460 --> 00:27:49,240 So it's very confusing visually, I will say. 503 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,920 Oh, this is like they took the gay the pride flag and then they put the black power fist 504 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,200 over the top and then an MS paint. 505 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,640 They just color dropped the different colors. 506 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,640 Yes. 507 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,640 Yes. 508 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,640 Yeah. 509 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,440 It's I could do this in 15 minutes. 510 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,520 I guarantee it. 511 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,080 Yeah. 512 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,920 So I'm down to the to the the Titan wrapper. 513 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,120 I've taken my wrapper off. 514 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,320 I have maybe three inches left of the cigar. 515 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Yeah. 516 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,320 Am I that far ahead of you? 517 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,440 No, I've got three and a half. 518 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:30,060 OK, I just measured I anytime I'm so bad at estimating distances and what orientation 519 00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:33,920 people are wearing cock socks. 520 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,560 So what do you think of this cigar so far? 521 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,160 I quite like it. 522 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,280 I feel like and I don't know. 523 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,480 I feel like it's changed a little bit here at the center at the middle. 524 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,920 It has in flavor, which the other ones didn't do drastically. 525 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,520 And this one wasn't drastic either. 526 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,640 No, it's not drastic. 527 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:59,080 And I was smoking a little fast and I got some sour and I slowed it down and it's not 528 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,240 sour anymore. 529 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,240 It's actually nice. 530 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,400 I got a nice medium, but still got some sharpness to it. 531 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,400 Yeah. 532 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,400 So it's nice. 533 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,400 Yeah. 534 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,320 So I was looking at the side scroll bar. 535 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,800 We're like a quarter of the way through these flags. 536 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,240 Maybe we'll pick it up a little bit. 537 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,240 The pace here. 538 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,200 It will only stop if we if we need something. 539 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,400 We need to clarify some that sound OK with you. 540 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,400 Sounds good to me. 541 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,280 So we may want to touch on some other things that have happened since we last recorded 542 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,280 at the end. 543 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,280 But absolutely. 544 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,280 So the next flag is the bisexual flag. 545 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,680 Actually one of the better looking flags that we've seen thus far, I think it's more traditional. 546 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:43,200 I mean, it's not we're not saying like I'm saying it's great and going to win flag contests, 547 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,800 but with the other ones we've seen. 548 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,800 So that was the bisexual one. 549 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,440 It's got two big bars and a little bar in the middle. 550 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,680 Now, Mike, you take the next one and I'm going to look this up because this next one I'm 551 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,680 not familiar. 552 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,760 I think I'm familiar with the term, but I've heard it explained, but I always forget the 553 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,560 pansexual flag is created on the Internet. 554 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:08,240 Of course, it's got pink, yellow and light blue, and it's a three bar flag. 555 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,280 And it represents pansexuality's interest in all genders as partners. 556 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,440 OK, so that's pansexual is a track. 557 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,440 They want to fuck everybody. 558 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,680 Genders not just not just male and female. 559 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,680 So right. 560 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,680 You could be like bisexual. 561 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:28,280 It represents women, nonbinary, gender nonconforming and maybe. 562 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,360 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 563 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,840 If you were bisexual, it would be men and women. 564 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:38,520 But you would not then do anything with the nonbinary people and the other groups. 565 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,480 Whereas pansexuality, everybody is sexy. 566 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,480 All right. 567 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:50,720 Then we got the next one is the asexual flag, which is not a well designed flag at all. 568 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:58,080 But therefore the asexual people, it OK, represents many ace identities, including gray sexuals, 569 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,920 the fluid area between sexuals and asexuals, the demisexuals, the people who don't experience 570 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:10,240 sexual attraction unless they have an emotional connection with their partners. 571 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:17,560 Next flag. 572 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,360 The labrus lesbian pride flag. 573 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,080 This is awesome. 574 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,440 Yeah, this is like the Viking Norwegian. 575 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,360 Yes, I can imagine this flag being flown on the back of a motorcycle with by a guy who 576 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,360 has no hair on his head. 577 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,360 Yeah. 578 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,040 Or like or like a longship or something. 579 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Mm hmm. 580 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,440 Oh, yeah, for sure. 581 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,840 So it's a purple flag with a black triangle and a white axe in the middle. 582 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,840 Yeah. 583 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,840 This is great. 584 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,920 You could have this in like a video game. 585 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,920 This is a good flag. 586 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,920 I like this one. 587 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,600 This is a great flag. 588 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:03,320 And it's the labrus, I think, is the style of acts that was used by the Grecian Amazons. 589 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,880 It is a lesbian flag. 590 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,280 So but it hasn't gained much traction in the lesbian community. 591 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,800 I don't know why this would be my go to. 592 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:17,960 I think it's because it was created in 1999 by a gay graphic designer called Sean Campbell. 593 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,600 And I don't think that the lesbians appreciate that. 594 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,600 Well, let's be more inclusive, everyone. 595 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,600 This flag is awesome. 596 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,600 Yep. 597 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,080 No, that is I want a patch. 598 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,080 Yeah. 599 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,080 Yeah. 600 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,560 Yeah, that's great. 601 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,040 OK, the polyamory flag. 602 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,840 OK, yeah, the polyamory flag. 603 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,680 So it's got the symbol for the infinite number pi. 604 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,040 Oh, infinite number pi. 605 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,120 I thought it was like a number pi because it's they forgot a space between number and 606 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,200 pi on the website here. 607 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,200 Yes. 608 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,880 So it shares the first letter of polyamory. 609 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,400 So this isn't a math flag despite them using a math symbol. 610 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,040 It celebrates the infinite selection of partners available to polyamorous people. 611 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,120 But pi is 3.14. 612 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,120 It's not infinite. 613 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,080 Why didn't they just put infinity symbol on it? 614 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,840 Well, I mean, pi is infinite and it never repeats itself, right? 615 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,560 Yeah, but it's 3.14. 616 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,360 We abbreviate it to 3.14. 617 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,160 Pi has more digits than that. 618 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,160 I'm aware. 619 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,160 I'm aware. 620 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,880 But why didn't they just use the infinity symbol? 621 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,880 Dude, are you polyamorous? 622 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,400 No, I am not. 623 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,480 Let's not judge. 624 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,160 Let's not judge just because we don't understand. 625 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,320 This is not as cool as the labrus lesbian pride flag. 626 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,680 And that is saving that win for the winner of the pride flag contest. 627 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,520 Yeah, I'm saving that to photos, everybody. 628 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,520 That is incredible. 629 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:50,440 It will be Mike's desktop background every time we podcast to look at that. 630 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,400 OK, now this next one, we should have known we should have seen this coming because part 631 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,560 of this next flag was featured on one of the other flags earlier up top. 632 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,560 Yes, it was. 633 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,000 What flag is this, Mike? 634 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,200 This is the intersex flag. 635 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,320 It is yellow with a purple circle with yellow on the inside. 636 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,960 And apparently it was designed in 13 in Australia. 637 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:17,200 So and so intersex, we said is just that is an umbrella term for all non gendered, non 638 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,560 binary people. 639 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,560 Yes. 640 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,280 The next the next one is a transgender flag. 641 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,120 Monica Helms, a trans woman, designed this flag in 1999. 642 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,480 You've got light blue, traditional color for baby boys, pink for girls and white is in 643 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,840 the middle for those who are transitioning. 644 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:40,720 So transgender is still part of the binary sex culture, gender culture. 645 00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:43,920 Something like the gender fluid, gender flexible flag. 646 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,920 Yeah. 647 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,520 And if we get if we get some of these terms wrong, it's not intentional. 648 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,840 No, we're not trying to make fun of anybody. 649 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,520 It's a lot to accept the some of the graphic designers. 650 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,360 But I was trying to make the designs that are ridiculous. 651 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,360 Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 652 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,080 The designs are ridiculous. 653 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,640 First of all, for those who are not looking at these, they're all copying the gay pride 654 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,640 flag. 655 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,640 Right. 656 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,640 Mostly. 657 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,640 I mean, except for the access, that one's bad ass. 658 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,360 No, the axe ones like that. 659 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,360 That one's unique. 660 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,920 That could be man. 661 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,000 I want to get that flag and fly it on the back of my pickup truck. 662 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000 You should. 663 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000 You should. 664 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,000 I saw one of those losers this weekend. 665 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,560 First time in a long time I've seen that. 666 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,600 So anyway, I'm in the back. 667 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,480 Oh, they had they had an American flag. 668 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,480 Thank God. 669 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,560 It wasn't like a Trump flag or something goofy. 670 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,560 Oh, yeah. 671 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:37,000 You know, I even saw one guy he had a flying on his back of his truck, but it was so heavy 672 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,840 that he had to bolt wires into this bed of his pickup. 673 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,840 Hold it up. 674 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,080 It was like an old, you know, POS vehicle, obviously. 675 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:52,160 I know you're the queer in the queer community gets like a lot of flack for being like extra, 676 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,040 you know, like with their stuff. 677 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:59,280 But I tell you, some the length, some of these Trump people and like Rara America and cop 678 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,480 supporter people will go to. 679 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,560 That's like more extra than a lot of the queer community. 680 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,000 So it's absurd. 681 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,640 I know I told you the story about the lady in her blazer. 682 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,320 So yeah, yeah, yeah. 683 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,360 It's let's do this gender fluid flexible flag. 684 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,360 Sure. 685 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,280 And this is another knockoff gay pride flag. 686 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,600 It's just got different colors and it encompasses the fluctuations and flexibility of gender 687 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,900 and gender fluid people. 688 00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:31,600 So yeah, so gender fluid, then they kind of depends on the day or the feelings not to 689 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,600 be. 690 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,600 Yes. 691 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,960 I'm not going to be dismissive of it, just to quickly summarize as we still have quite 692 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,760 a few flags to go and not a lot of cigar left. 693 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,640 The next one is gender queer. 694 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:47,000 The gender queer flag highlights androgyny with lavender, agender with white and non 695 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,220 binary with green. 696 00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:53,920 So this is probably more so the people that maybe don't transition between different genders, 697 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,880 but they don't feel any close association with any particular gender. 698 00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,920 Lipstick lesbian flag. 699 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:01,880 Yeah, that's the one that triggered this whole thing. 700 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,120 I saw this one there and I was like, what? 701 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,800 That is like a Rocky Horror Picture show flag. 702 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,800 You know what? 703 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:08,800 And this flag is not bad. 704 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,800 This is probably number two. 705 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,800 This is probably running out for number two. 706 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,380 Yeah, no, this could be out of a movie or something. 707 00:37:14,380 --> 00:37:16,660 It's pretty good to design. 708 00:37:16,660 --> 00:37:17,800 What is it, Mike? 709 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,040 If you want the most feminine pride flag, here it is. 710 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:26,960 It's not widely used celebrates the fems who are lesbians, also called and so lesbians. 711 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,960 Yes. 712 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:36,120 And so I had no idea what a lipstick lesbian was and I know back in the era when I was 713 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:41,360 growing up, any, it didn't matter if it was a lesbian couple or a gay couple, any same 714 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,040 sex couple, the question was always, well, who's the man in the relationship? 715 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,440 Who's the pitcher and who's the catcher? 716 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,920 Yada yada, all that stuff. 717 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:56,720 So this flag is then specifically designed for the lesbians who are the feminine lesbians 718 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:02,360 and not the more masculine, not that any of the lesbians has to be masculine. 719 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,480 This is all shades of pinks and reds and stuff like that. 720 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,840 It's a very nice flag. 721 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,880 Oh, that's got the lesbian flag. 722 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,880 Interesting. 723 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,920 The lesbian flag, which looks not as good. 724 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,800 No, nowhere is good. 725 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,760 I don't think we need to go on that. 726 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,160 So apparently there's a narrative about this lesbian flag that this flag is more inclusive 727 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,840 of butch and trans lesbians. 728 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,520 But apparently there's a debate. 729 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,560 So not only can you make really terribly looking flags, but then people get upset if the certain 730 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,600 color's not on there. 731 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,120 So we don't have to get into that. 732 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:41,160 This next one is interesting because it really, really kind of harkens to the Blue Lives Matter 733 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,440 flag. 734 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,220 This is the leather latex and BDSM flag. 735 00:38:45,220 --> 00:38:48,560 So this is for the kink community. 736 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:54,280 I guess there's a debate on whether kink communities should be added to the LGBT communities. 737 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,400 I don't know about that. 738 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,400 Whatever. 739 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,360 It's got a big heart where the stars and stripes would normally be if this were an American 740 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,000 flag, but it's mostly blue and black. 741 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,400 It's kind of gross. 742 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,160 Bear brotherhood flag. 743 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,160 Oh, yes. 744 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,160 Oh, yes. 745 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,160 He likes bears. 746 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,160 I think it's awesome. 747 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,760 It's so funny. 748 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:21,960 So it's a brown and yellow and orange and gray and black gay pride flag with a paw on 749 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:22,960 it. 750 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,640 And I thought it was going to be for something else, a bear paw. 751 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,000 And then it's basically just supposed to be for bears, I guess. 752 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,560 It was designed in 1995. 753 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,920 Which are what, the heavier set, the hairier. 754 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,920 Yes. 755 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,240 They don't have to be heavier set, but they're usually the masculine, hairy guys. 756 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:41,240 Okay. 757 00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:42,240 Yeah. 758 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:43,380 I'll take this next one. 759 00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:46,720 It looks like it came from the Flash comic or something. 760 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:49,320 That's the rubber pride flag. 761 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:55,280 So this is another fetish fetish one, similar to the leather and BDSM one. 762 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,760 It's for members who have a rubber and latex fetish. 763 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,920 I don't know if that fits. 764 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:01,920 The next one. 765 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,920 Yeah, go on. 766 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,040 Go on, Mike. 767 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,760 I kind of like this next flag. 768 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,920 It's hot pink and then very bright like grass green and then sky blue. 769 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,740 And it's the polysexual flag. 770 00:40:12,740 --> 00:40:13,840 And it's only three colors. 771 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,440 So I think it's a pretty good design. 772 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,040 Yeah, no, I think it's a great design as far as that goes. 773 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:26,000 And it's unlike pansexuality, polysexuality is attraction to multiple genders, but not 774 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,000 all. 775 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,360 So I don't know how that's different than bisexuality, but it is. 776 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:37,440 Well, yeah, I mean, so I guess it just says even though it has masculine, masculine, feminine, 777 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:44,640 and then no gender or like other gender, you could be man, woman, and you could fall in 778 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,840 love with a gender fluid, but not a gender flex. 779 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,840 So it's kind of like this is getting very complicated. 780 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,840 I know. 781 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,400 Yeah, I'm not very complicated. 782 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,480 I'm just to wrap my head around it as well. 783 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,280 The next one is a gender. 784 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,920 Well gender, people bend the rules of gender, a gender reject gender completely. 785 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,640 So they've got black and white stripes for absence of gender and then green, which is 786 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,120 the inverse of the gender heavy purple represents non binary genders. 787 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,840 Easy said, I don't I don't know. 788 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,440 It looks like a like a beach towel. 789 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,080 Like you would probably bring this to the beach. 790 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,320 Yeah, looks like a shitty beach towel, be honest with you. 791 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,320 But whatever. 792 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,200 Yeah, you'd get it at the Walmart bin for eight bucks or something. 793 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,680 Yeah, this is what you'd get in an emergency if you forgot a beach towel and you were at 794 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,680 the dollar. 795 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,920 You'd go in and this would be the thing you got. 796 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:31,920 Exactly. 797 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,640 So a romantic flag. 798 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,800 This one's marginally better than the last one, but not by much. 799 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,480 It's got some green on top and black on the bottom. 800 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,480 Yeah, I'll go ahead and whatever. 801 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:48,280 I was going to say like a romantic the description here they put was the a romantic flags use 802 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,320 green to celebrate people who live without romantic attraction. 803 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,840 So the way they word it sounds kind of depressing and maybe it is depressing. 804 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,840 I don't know. 805 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:01,320 But I guess a romantic is you don't you don't get romantically attracted to people. 806 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,320 I guess so. 807 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,320 All right. 808 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,960 The next one is non binary. 809 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,320 We know what non binary is. 810 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,200 We talked about that earlier. 811 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,560 This one would kind of have a place here in Minnesota because it's purple and yellow and 812 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,840 Viking colors for the NFL team. 813 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,840 I thought the same thing. 814 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,920 It looks like a Viking flag. 815 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,200 You know, and OK, this next one, you take this next one. 816 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,600 This is oh, wow, should should should fit in here. 817 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,360 But the pony flag. 818 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,880 This is way too much. 819 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,600 It's got some horseshoes and the green in the middle and there's black and blue stripes 820 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,000 like the cop flag. 821 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,920 Yeah. 822 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,640 So this is for people. 823 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,120 It's a fetish where people are treated like horses by wearing hooves, ears and saddles 824 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,480 and pulling carts. 825 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:52,280 Again, I feel like this is kind of like the the the rubber and the leather like pinks. 826 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,200 Like I don't know that this is really this is, you know, I mean, there's there's not 827 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,360 a flag for missionary sex. 828 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,440 This is I don't I don't think this is unlike the others. 829 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,040 Even even the BDSM flag is all different than pony. 830 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:17,240 Yeah, I would say I would say at least at least this one doesn't have the isn't like 831 00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:21,400 a direct rip off of the just a standard pride flag. 832 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,400 Right. 833 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,400 That is true. 834 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,480 Actually, it is a little different with it. 835 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,440 It looks like a collegiate football team flag is what it looks like. 836 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,440 Yeah, yeah. 837 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,120 It could just be a small collegiate football team flag and we would never know. 838 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,120 Yeah. 839 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:39,160 I think the one that this next one is the the one Mike and I fly all the time straight 840 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,240 ally flag ally flag. 841 00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:46,080 So it's the flag equivalent of I support LGBT people, but no homo. 842 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,200 I don't know that that's I don't I don't know. 843 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,200 This is very nice. 844 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,920 Yeah, I know. 845 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,840 This one makes everyone feel included at pride marches, but no homo, even if they're celebrating 846 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,680 other people's sexualities, but no homo. 847 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,600 It's a weird I don't know why they put that in there. 848 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,800 The no homo thing. 849 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,680 Yeah, they're not recruiting. 850 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,680 Right. 851 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,680 So here's the inverse. 852 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,120 This next one is the inverse of the lipstick lesbian. 853 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,120 You take this one, Mike. 854 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,560 Oh, the butch lesbian flag. 855 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,760 And this one's kind of lame. 856 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,960 It's just blues and purples and some grays. 857 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,000 And it's created in 16, you know, because everybody's got their own flag. 858 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:25,620 And it's very similar to the lipstick lesbian flag, but not as clever, I don't think. 859 00:44:25,620 --> 00:44:26,620 So there we go. 860 00:44:26,620 --> 00:44:27,620 Yeah. 861 00:44:27,620 --> 00:44:28,620 Oh, two-spirit. 862 00:44:28,620 --> 00:44:33,560 So this one, we might have we might have a bit of unpack here. 863 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,600 The two-spirit flag. 864 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,360 So the two feathers, that's the basic pride flag. 865 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,640 And then they put some feathers on there from the native tribes, as you think. 866 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,520 So the feathers represent masculine and feminine. 867 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,200 In the circle is the combination of both into one. 868 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:52,080 And it says before Europeans colonized indigenous lands in North America and enforced a gender 869 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,600 binary, many Native American tribes recognize the third gender, which is today called two-spirit. 870 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,880 So I guess I don't know if that's historically accurate or not. 871 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,500 It wouldn't surprise me. 872 00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:09,320 It seems it's more complicated than that because like the Pueblo Indians had seven recognized 873 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:15,600 genders and we don't really know a whole lot about a lot of the tribes because they were 874 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:22,000 destroyed before their society started writing down their cultural heritage. 875 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,000 You know what I mean? 876 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,520 So we know about like the Pueblos and the Navajos because they had a written language 877 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,960 before European colonization and they saved a lot of their culture. 878 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,640 So we know that at least there they recognized more than two genders. 879 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,800 Okay. 880 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:44,000 And I do know kind of going back to the European colonizers and things and written language 881 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:50,920 is that we know quite a bit about some of the northern and eastern tribes because the 882 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:57,240 French missionaries and the French people would go and actually kind of like study these 883 00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:02,440 tribes and kind of write down what they learned and then sent that back to their king because 884 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,200 the people back in Europe were very interested, especially the king, because some of these 885 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:15,000 chiefs were just kind of described as kingly or being kings even though they really weren't 886 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,040 in terms of like practice and everything. 887 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,320 But you know, they also weren't writing about their gender politics. 888 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,600 No, they weren't. 889 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,600 They weren't writing. 890 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,320 So we have an imperfect snapshot of some of these tribes and we have very little snapshots 891 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,080 of some of these other tribes. 892 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,680 But I think what we do have, and this will be a topic for a different episode, but I 893 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,840 think what we do have shows that they were maybe a lot more progressive than anyone was 894 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,800 led to believe or gave them credit for. 895 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,960 They're probably a lot more progressive than the Europeans at least. 896 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,960 Yeah. 897 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,960 They were just in gender things. 898 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,640 I mean like how they governed themselves and things like that. 899 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,240 But that's neither here nor there. 900 00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:56,800 So this next one is the twink flag. 901 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:02,520 And so it's got the two Mars signs intertwined representing gay men and it's got a pink on 902 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,360 top, a yellow on bottom and a white in the middle. 903 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,600 The term refl... 904 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,600 The term refl... 905 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,600 Jesus. 906 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,760 I'm going to get this. 907 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,240 The term refers to slim, young, handsome hairless men. 908 00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,240 Yes. 909 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:17,240 So that's that. 910 00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:20,440 It's basically the opposite of the bear. 911 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,440 There we go. 912 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,440 Yes it is. 913 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,800 And the flag's actually a really good design. 914 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,800 It's not bad. 915 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,800 It reminds me of Easter. 916 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,800 Yeah, it's not. 917 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,800 Yeah. 918 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:28,800 Yeah. 919 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,000 That's when all the twinks come out and leave eggs in the yard. 920 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,000 Hell yeah. 921 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,920 The demigirl flag. 922 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,400 I don't know what that means. 923 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,400 Okay. 924 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,400 Let's look it up. 925 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,400 Yeah. 926 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,520 The demigirl flag is a symbol for those who identify as either demigirl or as a demigirl 927 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,280 or demigender or as a demigirl. 928 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,960 Demi girls are those who identify partially as women. 929 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,960 Okay. 930 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,760 The flag was created by Tumblr user Trans Rants and 15. 931 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,600 So this is another variation of the gay pride flag. 932 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,040 And then we have Demi Boy, which is the exact same except pink is blue. 933 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,040 Of course. 934 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,200 Yeah, of course. 935 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,000 And it was the same person at the same time. 936 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,440 Ooh, the Detroit flag. 937 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,160 This is people who are represents those who identify as gender neutral. 938 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,160 Okay. 939 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:22,720 Yeah, there's some politics with gender neutral and a gender. 940 00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:26,720 This one's white, green and black that easily could be a country flag. 941 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:27,720 Yeah. 942 00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:28,720 All right. 943 00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,760 The next one is by gender. 944 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,760 I think it's by gender. 945 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:32,760 They didn't hyphenated. 946 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:33,760 It could be big ender. 947 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:34,760 I don't know. 948 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,760 By gender. 949 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:41,440 The by gender pride flag represents those who identify as two genders, whether male and 950 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,080 female or some combination of non binary genders. 951 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,080 Interesting. 952 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,580 And that's just another smorgasbord of colors in the same pride configuration that we're 953 00:48:50,580 --> 00:48:51,580 used to. 954 00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:57,480 The trans inclusive gay men's pride flag is another variant on the traditional pride 955 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,280 flag except they added a lot more bars or lines in there. 956 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:08,040 So gay men that want to also be inclusive of non cisgender gay men. 957 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,120 And I think that wraps up our flags. 958 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:16,620 So we'll put this link in the episode description like we said earlier. 959 00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:20,760 So you can go through and look at that or if you're curious or interested. 960 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:27,200 I don't know how many of these flags are actually used in practice. 961 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,120 Some of them sound good in theory, but I don't know, because I haven't seen a lot of these. 962 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:37,040 Either of I I've only ever seen I might have seen the two spirit flag. 963 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,440 Maybe I can't remember. 964 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:44,680 But the only one I know for a fact is that just traditional gay pride flag for sure. 965 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,680 Yeah. 966 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,760 So one last story from Pride Fest that I wanted to share. 967 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:55,400 And this is one of the things that kind of kicked a lot of this off was one of the best 968 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,960 shirts that I saw there. 969 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,200 Because you know, you go and people wear graphic tees and it's like end homophobia and and 970 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,280 you know, everyone's welcome and different things like that. 971 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,120 There's one guy and he was wearing this shirt and it said in real big letters, I like my 972 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,080 whiskey straight, but my friends can come as they are. 973 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,080 Right. 974 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,560 That's very that's a very cute shirt. 975 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,360 Yeah, I like that one. 976 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,360 No, it's good. 977 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,240 And that's partly why I broke out the whiskey for this episode. 978 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:22,240 Oh, yeah. 979 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:29,840 But yeah, I mean, I had no idea there that many different kind of like subgroups or subcategories. 980 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:36,040 No, most of them are very recent flag designs. 981 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,960 You know, there for 20 years, there was only the gay pride flag, you know? 982 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,440 Yeah, because like the first one was like in the late 70s. 983 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,700 And then a lot of the other ones are kind of like 90s, late 90s. 984 00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:52,880 And then and of all these other ones with more trans and inclusivity or whatever, we're, 985 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,880 you know, 2015 and newer. 986 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,880 Right. 987 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,880 Yeah, yeah. 988 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,680 They get more and more and more specific as time goes on, obviously. 989 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:07,360 So yeah, interesting, which is interesting, because generally when you're when you have 990 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:12,000 a cause and you're trying to rally support for the cause, you want the most inclusive 991 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,800 thing to rally everybody together under. 992 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,800 Right. 993 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,240 And then you're not going to have an idea or banner or or whatever, because if you get 994 00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:24,360 too fragmented out there, then there's, you know, like fighting between groups and it's 995 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,160 a less clear message. 996 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,160 Right. 997 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:35,440 Well, we just have to consider that early on, everybody had all the non heterosexual people 998 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,280 had to get underneath one flag to get their rights. 999 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:43,160 And then the Supreme Court made decisions and allowed protections for homosexuals and 1000 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,600 allowed protections for transgender people. 1001 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:50,220 The more they the less they had to fight for and the more they started to splinter off, 1002 00:51:50,220 --> 00:51:55,840 you know, and I'm sure that once gay marriage was legalized, which would have been what 1003 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:56,840 year was it? 1004 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:57,840 I'll have to look it up. 1005 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:58,840 Sixteen. 1006 00:51:58,840 --> 00:51:59,840 I want to say so. 1007 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,840 I'm going to look it up. 1008 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:03,840 All right. 1009 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:04,840 Fifteen. 1010 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:05,840 Okay. 1011 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:06,840 Fifteen. 1012 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:07,840 Yes. 1013 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,000 So that makes a lot of sense then. 1014 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,000 Yeah. 1015 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,960 Because all these new flags started coming out right after gay marriage got legal. 1016 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,960 Yep. 1017 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,960 So they didn't need to have the solidarity anymore because the gay people got what they 1018 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,960 wanted, you know? 1019 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,120 Yeah, they achieved their combined mission, I guess. 1020 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,120 Right. 1021 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:33,320 In the late 90s makes sense too, because in the 90s, the Supreme Court decided that employers 1022 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,240 couldn't discriminate against homosexuals and that people, renters couldn't be discriminated 1023 00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:41,000 against for their gender identity and all sorts of things like that. 1024 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,840 So yeah, it makes sense. 1025 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:50,120 So every time there's an advancement, there's a splinter group that wants their cut of the 1026 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,000 pie, which is good, you know, I guess in its own way. 1027 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,000 Yeah. 1028 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,120 I mean, that says it should be like, you know, we've talked about this before is the government 1029 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,600 shouldn't be precluding people from doing things as long as you're not harming somebody 1030 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,600 else, right? 1031 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:03,600 Right. 1032 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,600 Yeah. 1033 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,600 The government is not a moral actor. 1034 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,840 So they're not the arbiter of truth and they're not the arbiter of moral correctness. 1035 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,840 Yes. 1036 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,600 So yes, yes. 1037 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,240 I am nearing the end of this cigar. 1038 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:15,600 Shockingly near as well. 1039 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,600 Yeah, I figured you were because you took took a couple of flags in a row and I was like, 1040 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,640 I'll catch up while he's talking. 1041 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:22,640 I did. 1042 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:29,560 I did take the couple of flags in a row because I'm like, I'm going to be done too early. 1043 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:30,560 That never happens. 1044 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,960 Yeah, but never happens. 1045 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,960 Just ask my wife. 1046 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,720 Ka-ching. 1047 00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:42,920 I have to say, looking at these, there's a lot of lazy design work in these flags. 1048 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:49,440 Like they really just took that one person, Harvey Milk and Gilbert Baker's design and 1049 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,600 they really just kind of ran with it. 1050 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,880 Yeah, so they certainly did. 1051 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,120 And I still think the winner is that what was it? 1052 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:02,200 The Landis or Labris, Labris, the Labris lesbian flag. 1053 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,200 That one was awesome. 1054 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,200 Now that one is like I say that you could damn near have that at any event. 1055 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,200 You know what I mean? 1056 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:13,880 That could be your LARPing club flag. 1057 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,560 That could be like your guild in a game flag. 1058 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,600 Yeah, no, that's a great flag. 1059 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,840 Like I say, I can see that being behind people's motorcycles and they're driving up and down 1060 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,160 the road like mad men. 1061 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,160 Oh yeah. 1062 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,160 Or mad women. 1063 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,360 I see a lot of women riding motorcycles now. 1064 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,360 More than men. 1065 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,360 Oh, OK. 1066 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,360 Yeah, I don't get it. 1067 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,880 I mean, I don't know why I never noticed it before or maybe it's a new trend. 1068 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:37,880 Yeah, it could be. 1069 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:38,880 I don't know. 1070 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,080 I'd have to keep my eyes open when I'm out and about. 1071 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,520 Yeah, keep your eyes peeled, man. 1072 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,640 I see more women than men nowadays riding bikes. 1073 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,360 So that's more power to them, I suppose, you know, whatever. 1074 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,360 Yeah. 1075 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,360 All right. 1076 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,840 Was there anything else you want to talk about or do you want to do final thoughts on the 1077 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:54,840 stick? 1078 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,320 Yeah, we can do some final thoughts. 1079 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,320 It's good. 1080 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,520 It had to be. 1081 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,720 It was very temperature sensitive, though. 1082 00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:04,200 I had to be really careful not to puff too fast because it got sour. 1083 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,200 Yeah. 1084 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,200 But it came back. 1085 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,200 You know what I mean? 1086 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,840 It would get a little sour and then I'd slow it down and it would start to taste really 1087 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:16,840 good and it was sharp, sharp, but medium bodied, you know, and a small amount for me, at least 1088 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,960 a small amount of transition. 1089 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,040 But there was there was that kind of in the middle. 1090 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,040 I liked it. 1091 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,000 I don't I don't know if it's as good as some of the other ones that we had in the Gurkha 1092 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,460 line. 1093 00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:34,600 I don't think it's I mean, I wouldn't purposefully buy it again, but it wasn't bad either. 1094 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,480 You know, no, it wasn't bad. 1095 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,280 It's very it's very fine. 1096 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,280 It was tasty. 1097 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,000 It just I think it comes down to kind of like more of the flavor profiles that you and I 1098 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,000 enjoy. 1099 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,600 Yeah, it's different than what we normally smoke. 1100 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:47,600 It was good, though. 1101 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,080 Yeah, it wasn't bad. 1102 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,080 Yeah. 1103 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,560 If if people are going for more of like a bitey medium bodied cigar, I would suggest 1104 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,240 this for sure. 1105 00:55:57,240 --> 00:55:58,240 Yes. 1106 00:55:58,240 --> 00:55:59,240 So. 1107 00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:05,480 All right, do you have a favorite Gurkha that we smoked the past few episodes here? 1108 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,480 Oh, geez. 1109 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,880 Now I'd have to try to remember. 1110 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,640 I think the Centurion was the torpedo, wasn't it? 1111 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,280 I believe so. 1112 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,280 Let's look. 1113 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,920 I'll just I'll pull up our list here and then we can see what we smoked so we can remember. 1114 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:18,920 Yes. 1115 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,880 So I know I'm trying to remember here what we did. 1116 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:28,120 We had one where it was interesting, interesting. 1117 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:35,080 So OK, so we did the OK, so we did the Gurkha crest, the Centurion, the vintage 2001. 1118 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,040 We did the beauty and the beast. 1119 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,220 Yes. 1120 00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:42,520 So I remember we what we didn't like the beauty, did we? 1121 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,400 No, we did not care for the beauty. 1122 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,400 We did like the beast. 1123 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,400 We like the beast. 1124 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,960 I had stuff to say. 1125 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,960 There's one that I like better. 1126 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,600 Well, what the hell is the one that we quit halfway through? 1127 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,600 You think so? 1128 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,320 We quit one of them halfway through. 1129 00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,320 It might have been the crest. 1130 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:00,320 I know. 1131 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,320 I think so. 1132 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,880 In the crest, we had a lot of like tech issues as well, which have since been resolved. 1133 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,000 It wasn't on our end. 1134 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,720 It was the platform that we're using to record. 1135 00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:14,400 I guess one of the browsers made it and it made an update change that kind of tweaked 1136 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,880 how things worked. 1137 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,200 But we were struggling that episode. 1138 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:22,160 And then I think between that and how bad the cigar was, we were like, we're not even 1139 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,640 going to try the rest of it. 1140 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:28,040 Yeah, because that stick is still in my ashtray and I have three and a half inches left of 1141 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,040 it. 1142 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,680 Yeah, and that doesn't sound like you. 1143 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,680 No, no, no. 1144 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,240 I usually smoke them all the way down for sure. 1145 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,600 So very rarely do we have that. 1146 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,480 If you have more of those, that might be a good tequila cigar. 1147 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,480 I don't think I have any more. 1148 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,480 Thank God. 1149 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,040 Okay, well then don't buy any more. 1150 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,040 Don't buy them. 1151 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,640 No, no, no, no. 1152 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,880 The Bin Maduro is way better than that. 1153 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,880 Yeah. 1154 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:53,880 So. 1155 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:59,520 But yeah, the Titan was good, better than submarine, apparently experimental. 1156 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:00,520 Yeah. 1157 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,360 So do you want to talk about that briefly or should we save that for another episode? 1158 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,360 Oh, yeah. 1159 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,240 Well, the time that this is not a whole lot to be in the past. 1160 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,240 Yeah. 1161 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,040 A bunch of billionaires died in an experimental craft. 1162 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,000 Yeah, because he didn't want to hire boring 50 year old sub experts. 1163 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,440 He wanted to hire inspiring diversity hires and use carbon fiber, I guess. 1164 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,440 Yeah. 1165 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,280 And safety is not cost effective. 1166 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,280 Right. 1167 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,280 That guy had a lot of crazy quotes. 1168 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,280 So you get what you get. 1169 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,120 Yeah, you get what you get. 1170 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:35,560 It's interesting that the big news conglomerates are kind of slamming most of the rest of the 1171 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,280 people in the on the planet saying, you know, good riddance, let's get some more orcas to 1172 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,960 take down some more luxury yachts. 1173 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,800 Let's send more billionaires to the bottom of the sea. 1174 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:53,200 Because by and large, the average person who's not in the ruling class, a billionaire, doesn't 1175 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,520 much care for billionaires. 1176 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,320 And I don't think it's weird. 1177 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,320 It's weird. 1178 00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,320 It's weird. 1179 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:04,440 The false sense of self the billionaires have like, oh, we're God's gift to humanity. 1180 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,240 Why are why is everybody cheering when five of us implode at the bottom of the sea? 1181 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,240 I wonder. 1182 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:14,680 I did see an interesting conspiracy theory where it was that the billionaires didn't 1183 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:21,240 actually implode at the bottom of the sea, but they're now on Epstein Island. 1184 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:27,080 I saw that as well, but they called it Caligula's Island. 1185 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,240 Okay. 1186 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:34,480 So for those people who don't know the Caligula story, look it up real quick for yourself. 1187 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,240 It's awesome. 1188 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,840 So Roman Emperor Caligula, that is. 1189 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,840 Yes. 1190 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,960 I don't know if there's any other Caligula's out there, but 1191 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:44,960 who knows? 1192 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,960 He probably had a better flag than some of these communities. 1193 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,160 I'm guessing so. 1194 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,080 But yeah. 1195 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:57,480 Well, anyway, don't get into any Pringle cans to go to the bottom of the ocean with your 1196 00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,960 rich friends and we'll catch you next week. 1197 00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:14,640 Be safe, have fun.