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Welcome to the Marketing Mindset and Motherhood podcast, where we dive into the dynamic world

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of marketing strategies, personal growth and the unique challenges that come along with

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being a mom in business.

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I'm your host, Leona Burton, and I am thrilled to embark on this journey with you.

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This podcast is proudly sponsored by LiquidLypo, your trusted partner for staying healthy and

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happy even during the busiest of times.

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Join us as we explore the art of marketing, nurture a resilient mindset and master the

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delicate balancing act of motherhood, all whilst discovering the incredible stories

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and wisdom of mothers who've conquered this trio of challenges.

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So grab a cup of coffee, find a quiet corner and get ready for a dose of inspiration.

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It's time to unlock your marketing potential and embrace the beautiful chaos of motherhood.

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Welcome to the Marketing Mindset and Motherhood podcast.

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And we are live.

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I am super excited to have this flipping legend in the studio, metaphorically, not physically,

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right now.

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In the studio today, Kimmy Watson, give us a quick hello.

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I'm in my studio, if that counts.

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I mean, we could wrap that up.

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Hey, hey, it's Kim.

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Oh, I'm just Kimmy.

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I'm doing the Madonna thing with just Kimmy by my name.

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Yeah, what do you want to know?

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What do you want to know?

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I want to know all the things.

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We're going to dig into the conversation around networking today.

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And if only they'd heard our conversation 30 seconds before, I mean, it was all the

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juice, right?

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And sometimes you can't share all the juice on it.

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But we're going to talk about networking, the importance of networking, why networking

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works and what not to do when you're networking.

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So you know, networking is really, really important as we know as moms in business for

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our businesses, right?

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The reality is, is there are ways in which to go about networking and also not.

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And I'm super interested to get your opinion on this.

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So before we get really into this, talk a little bit about how you became a leader.

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So I actually got messaged by the lady that was the leader previous to me for the Ribble

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Valley Group and it was called Clitherow back then.

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And she actually slid on into my DMs and my business side and was like, hey, I've seen

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you've got a local business, blah, blah, blah.

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And I literally, are we allowed to swear on this?

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I literally shat myself and I was like, absolutely not.

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Am I doing this?

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And I just, I just put my, I literally, I think I threw my phone down.

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I was like, nope, not doing this.

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And then I picked it back up and I read it again and I was like, oh, networking, my husband

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does networking.

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It really wasn't my cup of tea with like his early morning meetings and all that jazz.

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That was just not, not up my street at all.

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And I read it and I was like, oh, come on, Kimmy, pull yourself together.

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You're a fully grown woman.

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You've got two kids.

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You've got a business.

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You're doing everything else.

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Why, why are you so scared of going to a meeting with other women that are in business that

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want to know who you are?

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And likewise, I want to know who they are.

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So I accepted the meeting.

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I was nervous as hell.

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I even messaged her to say, will you come outside and meet me?

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Like who on earth does that?

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Like was I 36 years old?

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Like it's, it's insane.

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Like why?

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So anyway, it was, it was nerve wracking.

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And I think it was, I probably knew half the women that were in there anyway.

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It was a local pub, so I was familiar with it.

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So it was a bit silly on my behalf, but it's what, what we do to ourselves, isn't it?

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We wind ourselves up.

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And luckily or unlucky, COVID came along and it went online.

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Anyway, that lady stood down, her business got so, so busy.

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So she stood down and the vacancy came up and it wasn't on my radar at all.

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It really wasn't.

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It wasn't something I was interested in because it just scared the heck out of me.

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I didn't understand what networking was.

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It was very new in, in my line, although the husband did it.

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And one of my friends kept messaging me who was a photographer.

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And she's like, Kimmy, have you seen the keep advertising for this, this post?

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And I was like, I'm not doing it.

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I am not doing it.

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I'm sitting in a room full of people and being like, hi, I'm Kimmy and I do X, Y, and Z.

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I said, I'm just not doing it.

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I said, I'll choke, I'll stutter, I'll go bright red.

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It's not me.

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Anyway, after a few messages from her for a few weeks, I was like, right, I'm going

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Had an interview and here I am.

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Three, four, are we, which year are we, third or fourth year in?

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I've lost the plot.

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Kimmy, I barely know where I am at this point.

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I'm very, very good at singing for the amount of time I've been in anyway.

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And your journey has been amazing.

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I mean, you are a phenomenal leader.

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You are an incredible leader.

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You're such a supporter of all women in business and you genuinely want people to succeed.

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I absolutely love that about you.

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But you've not always been confident networking.

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You've not always wanted to kind of stand up and shout about what you do and who you

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And, you know, even though this is a voice only or you know, you will, I'm just putting

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on the make up, which I totally get by the way.

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But, you know, that confidence, I think people see quote unquote confident people online

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and they think that they were just born that way and that's just natural to them.

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But reality is, is those things are built, their skills often, and we need to be working

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on those consistently.

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And for me, you know, the confidence has come as a result of you being around all women

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who are really supportive.

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And we were just talking while we're off of that about, you know, certain networking events

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or companies that you walk into a room, you look super down, you know, you're just on

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your handbag and you judged on how much turnover you earn or whatever it is.

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I mean, you can lie about those things and you can buy a fake Gucci bag.

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But the reality is, is that's what you're judged upon.

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And I really hand on my heart feel like at MIB, we do our very, very, very best to make

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sure that you're in a supported and inclusive environment where, you know, it doesn't matter

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whether you earn nothing or whether you earn multi-millions, you are welcome in the room

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and you're supported as much as the next person, which for me is rare.

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And you don't tend to find that, especially in a networking environment, you're either

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you're either a startup or you're this and you know, you're kind of very much pigeonholed.

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And I believe that we can learn from each other.

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I think there's so much experience that we bring to the table as business owners that

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we can take away that knowledge and those skills away from each other.

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So why do you believe that some people are successful at networking and some people are?

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Those people that really put themselves out there, but actually do it and not just think

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they're doing it.

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Because I think a lot of us can say like, oh, yeah, I've posted here, I've done that,

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I've turned up here, I've done this and I've done that.

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When in reality, they've probably done one of those five things.

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And I think it is just being consistent, but showing up at the right places.

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So you want to be at actual events, like not just online.

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Okay, online is brilliant.

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And that enables us to do this with you being in another country and me here in sunny, well,

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not so sunny England.

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It's finding the right people to gel with and finding your tribe, if you will, I'll

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call it that because everything you've just said is so true.

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And maybe is that it's a safety net.

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It's a real safety blanket.

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It's an amazing place to hang out and it really does like, I actually went to a networking

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event and outside of MIB, this wasn't MIB by the way, guys.

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And I had a Mulberry handbag with me that I had won.

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All my handbags are Mulberry, it is my thing.

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It was a pink one actually, it was a Mulberry cross something.

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And I'd won it at the Lancashire show and I took it in and someone commented on it because

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it matched my dress.

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It was very on brand with me.

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That's why I must have won it because it was my brand.

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I was giving off that vibe.

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And someone there went, oh, is that real?

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And I was in the whole room of women and I was just like, wow.

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And it was such a put down.

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And I personally don't think that would happen in MIB.

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And if it did, I'd be very, very shocked because it is such a cheerleading place.

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And like I talk about my dyslexia all the time, like I don't hide it.

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I use it as a superpower.

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It is always sat at the back of my mind thinking, oh, it might make me stumble or stutter.

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And it's about, like when you say that question, it is about showing up, like going live and

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just showing up for your business and showing up for you.

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And at the start of my MIB journey, like if I watched my lives from then, I'd probably

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be like, oh my gosh, Kimmy, what were you doing?

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But it worked.

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I grew my MIB group from 62, 63 people up to around 700 and something now.

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I sell my events out.

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We're doing a huge event in March and that's going.

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And I've even had some of the speakers message me today to say, wow, Kimmy, you're absolutely

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promoting this so well.

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I can't believe how well you do, who's helping you.

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And I'm like, I'm doing it myself.

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And they're like, you're on your own doing this.

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And I was like, yeah, I haven't got a team doing this for me.

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And they're like, oh, I thought there was a few of you.

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And I was like, no, no.

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And it's just been real and showing up.

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And it's that simple.

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It's really simple.

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And I think people over complicate these things.

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Absolutely, and I just I don't even know what breath pools people have to ask if people's

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are like the real like unless you're my friend, we're not having this conversation.

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Like it matters to anybody else.

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Like what weird, weird question, although I have been in environments where people are

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like, so you have six children, and they all buy the same dad.

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And you're like, first of all, I actually don't know who you are.

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Secondly, if you think in that publishing, come out your mouth.

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Thank you very much.

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But people are weird.

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I mean, they're definitely always that maybe it's a whole different vibe.

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Like nobody cares whether your house is real or not, apart from the authorities.

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But you know, the reality is, it's not anybody else's business.

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We genuinely are a community that are looking to create that real connection with people

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and find find touch points in there, you know, in in those conversations where you can really

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connect over things, you don't have to have the same beliefs.

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You don't need to have to be from the same religion.

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You don't need to have the same background.

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But you can find ways in which you can connect with a lot of people and you'll find similarities,

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which is always amazing, amazing, amazing.

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And it builds that connection.

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And whether they become a client or not is irrelevant because you know what, it doesn't

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matter if they don't become a client.

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They will support you, cheerlead you, champion you, or you know, they will give you potential

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clients or they'll recommend you to somebody, which for me is is the whole point of networking,

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right?

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It's not nobody goes to a networking event to buy.

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They just don't.

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Everybody goes to a networking event to sell their stuff.

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They don't go with the intention to buy a new handbag or, you know, an accountancy service

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or whatever it is.

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They go with the intention to, you know, sell something to you.

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And so that kind of whole connection piece is very, very important.

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And I think when you do that in a safe environment where you don't feel like you need to have

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perfected your elevator pitch or, you know, you've only got 30 seconds.

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I mean, the reality is, is you've got to keep it, you know, short and succinct.

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But, you know, nobody's there with an egg timer timing you throwing things at you to

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get you off stage because, well, Kimmy might, I'll talk about that in a minute.

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You know, it's much more relaxed.

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And even if you do go over your time with laughing and joking and we're kind of, you

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know, making the humor out of these things, rather than it being a very strict, you must

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do X, Y, Z and bring in this many people and have this many referrals.

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And in order to be able to stay part of the community, you know, we don't have any membership

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fees like a lot of other organizations.

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We don't insist that you attend a certain amount of events.

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You come or you don't.

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And that's completely up to you.

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And we have lots of different people attend all the time.

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And you've got a fresh new face of people, which for me, when it comes to networking,

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it's also important because you do want to meet new people and you do want to be consistently

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family and network.

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And if you meet in the same five people on a Friday morning at six o'clock, well, what

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you're doing with your life, right?

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I don't understand that.

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It doesn't make any sense to me.

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So for me, you know, what we do, it works and we know it works.

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We've been doing it.

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I've been doing this for a very long time.

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I feel like a dinosaur in this space at this point.

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And we have lots and lots and lots of repeat customers.

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So you just talked about the fact you have a big event, a big, sexy, fabulous event in

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March, which I'm very excited about.

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Although you told me you've not got time for me to speak.

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So I'm just going to be sat in the audience living my best life, which I'm totally okay

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with.

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I've sorted your time to speak.

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We've sorted.

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We'll discuss that after.

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But before we mentioned that, it's funny because when you say about the timing, so we've started

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at mine and it actually works really, really well.

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Because I've got ladies that go to lots of the networking companies and businesses.

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And I do talk to them.

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I do say like, what do you like that they're doing that I'm not doing?

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Because it's about growth.

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It's about developing our communities and our meetings and making sure they are inclusive,

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obviously, for everyone for the and the more structured businesswoman to the more relaxed

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businesswoman like, I am so relaxed.

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It's unreal.

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But what I started doing and they do love it, I think.

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I think they love it.

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They embrace it anyway.

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So I actually get a glass and a knife and I time 30 seconds.

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So we do do a kind of a 30 second pitch.

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And the idea behind it is I actually ping it so I don't have to shout at them because

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I'm just not mean enough to shout at them.

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So I ping it at 30 seconds, wherever they are talking.

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And what happens with that is that someone I could stop someone in the most crucial bit

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of what they're talking about.

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And then after the when we can mingle and everything, people go up to me, go, oh, Leona,

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can we cut you off?

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What was it you were saying?

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And it automatically gives them a conversation to start with straight away rather than going,

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oh, hi, I heard you talking and I can't remember what you do.

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It's straight away.

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They can write it down.

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So we've started doing that.

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And it's working really, really well.

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It also like allows everyone to have a little bit of a chat.

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And the last one, when was it two weeks ago when we had our January one, I was so impressed

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because the ladies that come like regularly.

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They've got their 30 second pitch down to a T and it's amazing.

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You mean you are not digging on me.

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Okay, so it's going to be all right.

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You embrace that and it's fun and it's not, you know, precocious and pretentious and kind

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of aggressive in the in the way that you're approaching that, which is really important.

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I mean, the reality is, is, you know, when you've got a group full of women who want

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to talk, some of them will talk.

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And I remember going to an event years ago, this lady, she pulled out an A4 sheet of paper

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and was literally reading it word for word.

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And I was like, right, stop.

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Who are you?

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Take away your paper.

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Who are you and what do you do?

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And she was like really nervous.

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And bless her, this this piece of paper was a concert blanket.

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But once we took that away, she could speak from the heart and she could speak from a

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place of she knows who she is.

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And, you know, take it doesn't matter what you say.

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It's like people remember how you make them feel.

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It's that it's that connection piece.

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And I love that the fact you were encouraging them to kind of, you know, you know, you know,

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you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

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you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know

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it's warm, we're friends.

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But you I.

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journey of this event was that I wanted a journey through business almost because a lot of events that we go to, they're kind of

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homing in on one subject or just marketing or just socials or and they bring someone else into cover something so small. But so I

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wanted it to be a journey. And so that was really important when choosing the speakers. Obviously, you had to be involved

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with, you know, Mib being your business and company and everything. And obviously, a lot of people, in fact, everyone in Mib,

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they all look up to you. And I think it's really important that you are there and in there on the day to be able to speak maybe

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for a few seconds at the start and the end. We'll see. We'll see where I can pop her in.

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I know I'll be digging, digging. I'm not, we're not doing any of that on the day. We're just going for it on the day. And the

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speakers were really important because I wanted some like, obviously, like keynote speakers, people that have got it down to a

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tee, they're confident and you know they will deliver on the day. And I also wanted to give, like, I'm going to say my Mibs,

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obviously, I'm not that precious over them, but my Mibs, the opportunity to speak as well, because it's what Mibs done for me,

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it's given me a platform to be able to grow, develop and learn. And I wanted to be able to give my ladies, if they wanted that

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opportunity, the, that, that kind of platform to be able to do it. And there's no better place than in a room full of women that

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actually all have your back, which is really, really important. One of the ladies that I did ask, she comes to all my meetings.

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And she was the start of the journey really with, she does a lot of mindset, self love, care, but in a really quirky and fun,

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eccentric way. So she's, it's, she's not quite calm with it, if that makes sense. She's quite, she'll have you like going and really

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thinking. And I asked her and she said she actually cried when I asked her because of like, like how much she would love the fact

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that I had asked her. And I just like, I've done my job, done, don't need any more speakers sorted. And but no, the other

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speakers, it's really important that I had her on this journey with me for her to grow as well. And but also so people can see

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her, and because she's not so much out there, like, like say you are, or Samantha is that's coming. And she is incredible and met

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her networking. She, I just love like what she stands for. She's a mum of six again. So you know, like we're incorporating that

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whole mum vibe going on. And her and Leona have met and you know who she is. I said I wanted fun, sparkly, interactive. And she

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sent me a photo of her walking down a stage in this beautiful black sequin dress with like some like big mask on her

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side. She's like, yeah, you know, I've got my Caribbean roots. So we'll be up and dancing. I was like, yes, girl, you are who I

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want, please say yes. And she is like,

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she is fire. So I was at an event and I saw this gorgeous woman across the room. You know how you drawn to people's energy.

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She had this little baby, like a couple of months old. And I was like, who is this gorgeous woman? Where is this baby from? I

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need to, I think we need to have a conversation. And when she said she was a mum of six, I was like, I salute you. So am I. And

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we just connected and we missed like a whole session and a half because we were chit chatting. We missed the speakers, we got

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totally told off because we've been too loud. But you know what, that's what it's about. It's about those connections, not just

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about what the speakers are going to tell you, but the connections in between those speakers and the things that the speakers

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will get you doing. Some of them really fun, some of them might be a little bit daunting. But it's, it's, it's that it's not

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just, you know, sit and listen to a speaker all day and kind of zone out because we've all been to those events, right? Really, but

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it's like interactive and getting to get involved with each other and kind of building that team spirit and you become really

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good friends with people and you know, you're chatting in the toilet over a lip gloss colour, I don't know, whatever. But you

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know, it's those types of things that really build on those relationships. And, you know, I've met people in those

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environments, speaking somebody over a biscuit and the next thing they're on my podcast, or they're working with me or

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become a client or become a client of theirs. It's that it's those things. It's not just the practical is what you do, this

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is how you do it kind of lessons. It's the whole vibe. And for me, events are so important. But you know, I've also been

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to some really shit events last year, I kind of put myself out there to go to other events, kind of see what was out

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there. And I was like, do you know what the reality is, we do an amazing job of them. Like, I don't need to go to any of the

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different events because we have our own incredible event. I'm not saying that because I own them. I'm saying that because

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it's genuine, like genuinely, from from my hand on my heart, I was paid to go to our own events. And that's the way I

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always look at things whenever I attend our events. I'm like, would I pay as a client? Would I be happy with what's

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delivered? What would I want to improve upon? And genuinely, like, I love our events. And I think they're amazing. I

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think you guys as leaders do an incredible job of kind of championing and cheerleading and, you know, facilitating that

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support. You guys aren't all coaches, right? A lot of you aren't coaches. And I don't ever want, you know, our leaders to

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have to be coaches more facilitating that conversation, just holding a safe space. And that's

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fun. It's a fun element, isn't it, as well in it? I'm so annoyed that you guys have so much fun without me.

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You just said about like the interaction. And that was one of my questions to all the speakers that are coming. So I

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have a lady called Sue coming. We have Kiki, like, go check them out. They are absolutely incredible. And my brief to

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them was I want interaction. I don't want you to speak to my audience. And they're like, What? You don't want me to

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speak? And I was like, I don't want you to dictate. I need fun and interactive. I want you to be in there with them.

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And you've said about all like the events you've been to. And it's from all those events that you've been to that I've

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been to last year, and lots of other ladies that we've spoken to have been to many other events. And we've taken on

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all the good things and all the bits that they didn't like. It doesn't mean that they were bad at the event. It's just

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things that they didn't gel with. And this is the outcome of having an event that's real, raw, the glitz and the

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glams coming from the venue itself. It's beautiful. We have a lineup of guest speakers that you won't ever probably get

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as a speaking panel again, because we're just doing it as we do it. And there's businesses that are spotlighting

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there, which is again, really important for our MIB community is that they're getting themselves seen and out there.

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And having fun. And there's food, there's food involved. Like, again, you know, there's no canapes, there's no little

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nail sized chocolates or anything like that.

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We're gonna fill you up.

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Serving quail eggs and caviar. I'm gonna be so annoyed, give me. So annoyed.

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Sorry, no caviar. Full food.

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I am partial to the odd caviar. But I tell you what, the reality is that doesn't fill you up to date. You want to go,

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you want to have decent food, you want to have a decent conversation. You don't want to be starving by the time you

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leave. You don't want to be judged based upon your handbag. And you want to have decent quality conversations and

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connections. Well, we provide all of that. So it's a no flipping brainer, baby, right? Sign me up. I'm totally, totally

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there. I'm super excited about this event. What you're putting together is incredible. Tell us a little bit about the

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dates. Tell us the dates. Tell us the times, all the stuff.

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It's on the 19th of March, which is a Tuesday. And this year, obviously 2024. And it's half past 10 till half past two.

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And we've done the timings. Really, I should have done like 8am till 8pm, because that's the amount of time I think we

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need. But I've done the timing to be child friendly. So you can do the school run, you can drop your kids off and you

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can pick them up without the stress. And also no stress of the work traffic thing that goes on in the morning, all that

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road rage. Like that's gone. So yeah, it's gonna be an amazing day. We've sold half tickets now we've gone through. And

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it's just gonna be fabulous. It really is.

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I love it. I'm so excited. Kimmy, it's been a pleasure. Before you go, one non negotiable when it comes to networking.

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Be yourself. And turn up, turn up to what is going on in your local area. Like go and find out the events that are

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happening and go to them.

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And be yourself 100% go all in, lean in, let's go. And we want to see you. Right, Kimmy, it's been a pleasure. Thank you

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so much. We will see you all at the March event.

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And that is a wrap for another inspiring episode of Marketing Mindset and Motherhood podcast. Hope you found our

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discussions on marketing strategies, nurturing a resilient mindset and mastering the balancing act of motherhood, both

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