1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Alright, we are back. 2 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,880 The Buffalo Bread Podcast rides again. 3 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,840 Dan, it's been a minute. 4 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,680 This happens every year we've done the podcast now. 5 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:40,240 Three years running where we get to the point in the season just around and just after the 6 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:46,120 Super Bowl and we sort of have a football hangover for a minute and then we snap back 7 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,200 together before the draft and here we are. 8 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,980 That is the way. 9 00:00:51,980 --> 00:00:56,160 This is the earliest we have snapped back from it as well. 10 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,640 Last year I think we, I mean, well last year was so devastating or two years ago now with 11 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,560 13 seconds, so devastating. 12 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,400 We actually took I think from like January until August off. 13 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,960 We needed a long one after that. 14 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:09,960 At least now it's April. 15 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:12,480 Yeah, we didn't even care about the due draft. 16 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,720 We just sort of like lived in our own squalor and filth. 17 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,720 But here we are. 18 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,720 I mean, that's a lot to say. 19 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,680 I think that everybody would agree that 13 seconds was far more heartbreaking than just 20 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,880 getting thoroughly manhandled by the Cincinnati Bengals in your own stadium in a snowstorm. 21 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,760 And so everybody started mourning that loss in the second quarter. 22 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:42,360 This one, you know, we recovered faster because as Bills fans often do, we have an incredible 23 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,120 tolerance for sadness and let down. 24 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,120 And we got to flex that. 25 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,440 We got to flex that muscle a little bit again this year, unfortunately. 26 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,600 And so we did some, you know, wrap ups with some of our AFC East friends and we'll look 27 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,440 to do some more with them in the near future on a mock draft special. 28 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:02,960 But here we are. 29 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,960 Let's get started. 30 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,880 Where are the Bills now? 31 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,760 What has been a change or development that you want to talk about first? 32 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,840 Well, I mean, we're now through the bulk of free agency. 33 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,560 So I think we should get to some of the additions and subtractions on the Bills roster. 34 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:24,440 But I think where you've got to start is a place where a lot of Bills fans, JJ, us included, 35 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,800 kind of left last season. 36 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,360 And that was with coaching staff. 37 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,120 Now there were some in Bills Mafia that were calling for Leslie Frazier to get fired. 38 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,600 We weren't necessarily calling for him to get fired. 39 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:41,960 But we had pointed out after his last five postseason games as a defensive coordinator, 40 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:48,160 that defense giving up an average of over 31 points a game in those five games, three 41 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,240 of which were losses. 42 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,760 We thought there needed to be a philosophical change on this Buffalo Bills coaching staff, 43 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,560 particularly on the defensive side of the ball. 44 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,240 It seemed just like the scheme had gotten tired. 45 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,880 It had been gotten predictable. 46 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,680 It was ineffective in a lot of ways. 47 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,240 We asked the question, like, what was this Bills defense good at throughout the course 48 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,520 of the year, and all we could come up with was consistency against lower achieving teams 49 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,800 or average offenses. 50 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:23,280 So as a result of all of that, we really felt like this Buffalo Bills defensive coaching 51 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:29,080 staff needed to get back to the drawing board and come up with some unique ways to use the 52 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,600 personnel they had on staff. 53 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,000 So the Bills are going to have an opportunity to do that, JJ, but it's going to be without 54 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,700 Leslie Frazier, as a lot of Bills fans by this point already know, in April, Leslie 55 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:41,800 Frazier is no longer the defensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills. 56 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:48,000 He is taking a one-year hiatus, says he wants to come back to coaching generally in the 57 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,680 2024 season, not necessarily saying it's going to be with the Buffalo Bills, which we can 58 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,320 get into that in a minute if we want to. 59 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,960 But it has been confirmed at this point that Sean McDermott will be calling plays. 60 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,900 And for Buffalo Bills fans who might have short memories, McDermott did actually take 61 00:04:04,900 --> 00:04:11,440 over play calling in the 2020 COVID season for a bit when the Bills defense was struggling. 62 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,600 And McDermott really made his hey as a defensive coordinator. 63 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,080 That's what ultimately landed him this job in Buffalo, is that he had that great run 64 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,960 with Carolina, including a Super Bowl run as DC, proved himself to be a very adept defensive 65 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,440 play caller and worked his way up into the head coaching ranks. 66 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:34,600 So JJ, I think that's a logical place to start because there's a simmering excitement for 67 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:40,360 what people think McDermott might do with some of this personnel and what he might do 68 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,760 with this scheme. 69 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,800 A lot of folks are looking back to that 2016 season in the Carolina, looking for breadcrumbs 70 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,720 of what McDermott might do here with some of the personnel. 71 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,260 I think there's a reason for optimism with him taking over play calling duties. 72 00:04:54,260 --> 00:04:58,800 But what are your thoughts, JJ, on the Frazier transition and McDermott ultimately being 73 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,640 our head coach slash DC this year? 74 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:08,520 Well, I think we've talked about it a number of times throughout the years we've been doing 75 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,080 this that Leslie Frazier has an excellent regular season defense. 76 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,000 The defense is the defense is something I've said a billion times. 77 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:22,120 His scheme and the way he coaches his players and the way he calls specific plays in specific 78 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:29,480 situations is incredibly safe. 79 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,980 It's meant to minimize big plays. 80 00:05:31,980 --> 00:05:38,760 It's meant to reduce big time scoring plays over the top touchdowns and those sorts of 81 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,760 things. 82 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,840 And really, teams really have to work hard to make things happen. 83 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:48,440 And that has resulted in the Bills being a top 10 and oftentimes top five scoring defense 84 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:54,560 in yards, giving up defense in the league since his tenure with the Buffalo Bills. 85 00:05:54,560 --> 00:06:01,160 However, in big moments against top competition, he has fallen short because top competition 86 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:07,240 can't be controlled in the same way that regular Joe's and backup quarterbacks can, where the 87 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:14,440 scheme alone makes it so that a team has to present perfection on offense to make points 88 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,920 to kind of propagate the ball down the field. 89 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:24,520 When you face a Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burroughs and Sam Bengals, even in some regards, you 90 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:31,760 face the Dolphins with Tua and they can hit a perfect play or beat you with individual 91 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:37,200 matchups because they have elite players and elite burners on offense. 92 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,860 That's when Leslie Frazier has struggled and he's so risk averse that there's never going 93 00:06:42,860 --> 00:06:48,580 to be a huge game changing play in the favor of the defense because he's not dialing anything 94 00:06:48,580 --> 00:06:49,580 like that up. 95 00:06:49,580 --> 00:06:56,320 He plays too afraid to make that call and I don't think that you're going to see it 96 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,720 with Sean McDermott, which means I think Bills fans need to prepare for a reality where we 97 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,720 might see the Buffalo Bills get dunked on over the top a few times. 98 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:10,120 We might see some additional big plays broken in the run game because people are out of 99 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:16,380 position because he'll be trying to play the edges and leverage over the top pressure and 100 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:21,960 exotic blitz packages a little bit more than we've seen in the past. 101 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:26,180 I think it's probably the kind of year, if I'm going to just grab my crystal ball and 102 00:07:26,180 --> 00:07:31,480 prognosticate here, this is the kind of year where the Buffalo Bills defense drops to like 103 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:37,120 13th or 14th in the rankings in terms of yards and points, but maybe has way more sacks and 104 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:44,200 way more interceptions than Frazier defense has produced in the past few years. 105 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:49,920 I would be comfortable with that trade off because those sacks and interceptions, we've 106 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,540 seen it with Steve Spagnola defense for years. 107 00:07:52,540 --> 00:07:53,820 That dude now is what? 108 00:07:53,820 --> 00:08:00,560 He's been ranked four times and I saw a stat the other day that was mind boggling to me. 109 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,880 He's never had a top 10 defense. 110 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,520 He's never coached a top 10 ranked defense. 111 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,960 I don't believe that. 112 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,040 I don't believe that that is necessarily true either. 113 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,820 I saw it on a PFF feed. 114 00:08:12,820 --> 00:08:15,700 So it might have been via there, right? 115 00:08:15,700 --> 00:08:21,460 But that dude has been ranked four times and he's given up points in a lot of those Super 116 00:08:21,460 --> 00:08:22,460 Bowls. 117 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:23,840 He's given up points in a lot of playoff games. 118 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,700 Everyone points to the great scheming is rightfully so. 119 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:31,460 They should when he shut down the New England Patriots twice with that vaunted pass rush 120 00:08:31,460 --> 00:08:34,220 in for the New York Giants. 121 00:08:34,220 --> 00:08:39,580 This is not a dude who has put up, I think, defensive schemes that have produced to the 122 00:08:39,580 --> 00:08:41,760 consistency that Frazier has. 123 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,920 I would also argue that maybe outside of his time with the Giants, Spagnola has necessarily 124 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:51,920 not had the elite pieces and draft capital and assets that Frazier had in Buffalo to 125 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,100 build those things, which is a topic for another time as well. 126 00:08:56,100 --> 00:09:01,560 But ultimately, what I'm getting at is you can win with those types of defenses in the 127 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:02,820 NFL. 128 00:09:02,820 --> 00:09:07,640 Very few teams have both good offenses and good defenses rolling with them at the same 129 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:08,640 time. 130 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,240 There are usually teams that there needs to be a tradeoff because of where you have to 131 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,380 invest your draft capital, where you have to invest your salary cap, where you've got 132 00:09:17,380 --> 00:09:20,160 to make all of these key personnel decisions. 133 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:25,560 In those moments, scheme can really help you not just throughout the course of the season 134 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:30,260 being consistent, but really in some of those bigger moments where this Buffalo Bills defense 135 00:09:30,260 --> 00:09:31,320 has failed. 136 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,500 We just came off of a Super Bowl, which was an epic Super Bowl game, by the way. 137 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:38,540 We didn't get a chance to necessarily break it down because it was heartbreaking for us. 138 00:09:38,540 --> 00:09:45,840 But it was an epic Super Bowl game where both teams literally just picked their poison. 139 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:51,000 What they were doing on defense, both Philly and Kansas City, is just playing to have the 140 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,360 ball last. 141 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,280 Make sure that you have the ball last with your elite QB with the ball in his hands at 142 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,560 the end of the game because they knew it was going to be close. 143 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:02,680 KC played a bunch of base defense in that game. 144 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:04,700 They sold out to stop the run. 145 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:07,700 But you saw, as you mentioned, what could happen with the Bills. 146 00:10:07,700 --> 00:10:12,360 They gave up a ton of plays over the top, but they came together at the key moments, 147 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,320 big moments in the game with some pretty exotic stuff to shut down the Eagles and make sure 148 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,520 that Patrick Mahomes had the ball at the right time. 149 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,560 I will take that this season with the Buffalo Bills. 150 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:26,360 I will take making sure that if it's going to be a close game that Josh has the ball 151 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,220 in his hands at the end of the game every time. 152 00:10:29,220 --> 00:10:33,320 As long as this Bills defense starts to get some of those bigger stops that they have 153 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,920 lacked the ability to get in the postseason over these past few seasons, I am good with 154 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,600 whatever McDermott is going to scheme up. 155 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:45,200 I'm good with going from third in defensive efficiency down to 13th if that means we're 156 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,720 going to play big in big moments, which we haven't. 157 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,640 Yeah, no, absolutely. 158 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,120 That's really what I'm looking at and I'm sort of hopeful for. 159 00:10:54,120 --> 00:11:00,560 I'll accept the Bills losing two games by more than two scores because the top gets 160 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:04,640 taken off the defense because they have a safety blitz dial up. 161 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:12,080 I'm okay with those couple of losses if in the playoffs Matt Milano is put in a position 162 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:18,480 where he can get a sack strap strip fung bull and we recover it for a touchdown. 163 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:24,200 Something big that's not currently there because we're playing too high shell with all of the 164 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,840 passing lanes underneath cluttered and there's no pressure because our front four are being 165 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,920 primed by five down linemen and a running back. 166 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:39,000 I am all about playing those margins and taking some chances and getting a little bit more 167 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,480 exotic and seeing what Taren Johnson as a blitzer, what Christian Benford can do in 168 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,400 a special package. 169 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,160 Maybe we can see what the heck Terrell Bernard is worth as a player. 170 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:55,280 There are some options on this defense that I don't think we have really taken advantage 171 00:11:55,280 --> 00:12:00,880 of and as an aside and we'll get to this when we talk about free agency, seeing how the 172 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,440 Bears and I know you want to talk about this, seeing how the Bears used Tremaine Edmonds 173 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,440 in their defense. 174 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,440 It's going to be fascinating. 175 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,440 Yeah, it's going to be fascinating. 176 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:09,440 Because I have a hunch. 177 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,440 That dude is used. 178 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,360 Yeah, so but yeah, that's the kind of thing I'm thinking about is not just about stacking 179 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:21,680 a defense with talent and then having them all play in pre-rent roles the whole game 180 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:27,160 and hoping that somebody on the front four can overcome their one-on-one matchup to get 181 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,160 a sack. 182 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,120 That's not the strategy I think we're going to see enacted with McDermott calling the 183 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,120 individual plays. 184 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,160 I think we're going to see more in-depth blitzing. 185 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,000 I think we're going to see something I've loved about the McDermott defense that we 186 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,800 saw in his first two years, but since Frazier has been the voice in the room for defense 187 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,760 we haven't seen as much is sugaring the A-gap. 188 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:54,800 You have four down linemen and then you stuff both of your inside middle linebacker and 189 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,800 your outside linebacker on either side of the center's face mask before the snap of 190 00:12:58,800 --> 00:12:59,800 the ball. 191 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,200 That is like, it's a nightmare. 192 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:07,040 At a very modest amateur level I played offensive line. 193 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,560 There is nothing more terrifying than seeing people that you know are much faster than 194 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:15,240 you lined up, stand up directly over your face because you're like, oh shit, after this 195 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:20,160 ball is snapped I have many decisions and movements to make or I'm the reason this play 196 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,320 gets blown up. 197 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:30,200 That strategy was used so often in McDermott's defense in Carolina and it was used sparingly 198 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,720 when McDermott and Frazier were together and very little in the last couple years and I'm 199 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,120 not sure why and I hope to see it come back because I think there's a value in it and 200 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,640 sure you can get caught out of position a little bit, but it also can really wreak havoc 201 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:48,200 with the blocking scheme and end up freeing one of those edge rushers or freeing a defensive 202 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:53,680 tackle because there's a little bit of more mayhem and confusion on the inside. 203 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:58,760 I have a hot take for you to close this out and you can tell me if I'm right or wrong 204 00:13:58,760 --> 00:13:59,760 here. 205 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:07,840 Sean McDermott is the best defensive coordinator in the AFC East right now. 206 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,760 So you got Belichick in New England. 207 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,080 You've got Fangio, right? 208 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,120 And then Asala is not calling plays. 209 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,680 Who's calling plays for who's calling plays for? 210 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:19,160 I mean, he's involved with that scheme. 211 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Yeah, I don't remember who the DC is in the Jets, but I'm gonna look it up right now. 212 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,240 You look that up and I'll riff on it for a second. 213 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:35,680 So I think it's hard for me to give Sean McDermott sharing duties between head coach and DC the 214 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:41,160 edge over Vic Fangio because I think Fangio is an excellent DC. 215 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,160 But I would say it's probably they're probably a 1A 1B. 216 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,720 That'd be my yeah. 217 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,920 Okay, that's good. 218 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,860 And it's Jeff Ulbrich heading into his second season with the New Jersey Jets, which tells 219 00:14:52,860 --> 00:14:57,360 you right there that he wouldn't qualify for best because we didn't even know who he was. 220 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,360 It's good. 221 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,120 I'm so I'm so and we'll talk about this. 222 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,040 I'm sure when we get into some of the mock draft stuff and some of the the divisional 223 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,160 preview for the season, I'm fascinated to see what happens with Fangio because he was 224 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:13,440 all over that Philly scheme, his fingerprints were all over it in that Super Bowl against 225 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,840 Patrick Mahomes. 226 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,240 And it was a lot of light boxes. 227 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,800 It was a lot of drop guys into coverage. 228 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:24,600 And Mahomes and the way he has matured just absolutely picked that defense apart, took 229 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,360 what was given to him. 230 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,120 And that's a team that didn't make mistakes. 231 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,860 I'm not saying we're at a sea change in the NFL right now. 232 00:15:32,860 --> 00:15:38,200 But this is now like the third or fourth year that we're going in, where the league these 233 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,440 league's offenses have seen two high shells, they've seen light boxes. 234 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,900 And eventually someone is going to say and it could be Belichick because he still wants 235 00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:49,700 to run these two tight end these two tight end looks. 236 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:53,440 But someone's eventually going to say, man, if we only got four or five guys in the box, 237 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,460 why aren't we trying to run the ball a little bit more in early downs, right with some efficiency. 238 00:15:58,460 --> 00:16:03,360 So I'm not saying that that that fan Joe's a bad hire, I think is a genius hire, and 239 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,840 he's going to do great things with that personnel. 240 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,600 But I think a Frazier defense and a Fangio defense, when you're immediately starting 241 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:18,480 at a deficit of the key of your defense is to rush for against five Oregon six, and try 242 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,520 to win that matchup and rely on your secondary to hold up in coverage enough against some 243 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,320 of these elite playmakers that are in the AFC East. 244 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,560 I think it's going to be an adjustment for Miami. 245 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,120 He's a he's a huge step up. 246 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:36,000 Don't get me wrong in coaching and Miami might be the best coach team out there. 247 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,880 But it'll be interesting to see. 248 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,080 It'll be interesting to see if Fangio does make any adjustments. 249 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,280 I mean, I think this is why they signed David Long in Miami, because that dude, if he can 250 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:51,560 stay healthy, maybe the best or one of the best run run stopping linebackers in the league 251 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,440 sneaky good signing by Miami. 252 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,240 So that tells me though that they're going to play with a lot of light boxes. 253 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,960 And we just signed Damian Harris, we still have James Cook. 254 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:03,840 We've got Naheem Hines, we've invested in a lot of beef along the offensive line. 255 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,800 I'm not saying we're taking Hall. 256 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,800 Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, and then and then Belichick just wants to run the ball 257 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,080 because he's got Mac Jones. 258 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,560 He's bringing a knife to a gunfight. 259 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,800 So he just wants to run the ball. 260 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,680 So it's so yeah, so I'm with you. 261 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,560 I think they're one and one and that's no disrespect to Belichick, but there's just 262 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:29,120 something that seems I'll be interested to see how the Fangio defense fares. 263 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:37,200 Well, and I also also think that, you know, one and one is it's it's disrespectful to 264 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,040 Belichick a little bit. 265 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,680 But I think that the disrespect for Belichick comes from the fact that when he's playing 266 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,080 within the scope of the rules and not cheating and he doesn't have Tom Brady stretching the 267 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,280 leads for every play, every team he's playing against. 268 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Right. 269 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,760 He has a pretty vanilla approach to defense and the Bills have exploited it more than 270 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,760 anybody. 271 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,760 Oh, yeah. 272 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,840 Over the past three years to the to the juncture where like, you know, Patriots fans, I hope 273 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:09,000 they are feeling this way or feeling a little bit like Bills fans over the drought era when 274 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,840 you're just like it's presumed that every time you match up with those guys, they're 275 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,360 going to crush you because they're just you can't stop their defense, their offense at 276 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:21,960 all. And that's and that's something to be said, because I think that Belichick is this 277 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,600 brilliant defensive mind. 278 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:31,080 But he I think that he is limited as a general manager. 279 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,280 And that's that sets him back a little bit. 280 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:39,000 I think that he because he's the GM and the coach and in a lot of ways, the DC a lot of 281 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:45,840 oftentimes, I think he you know, his failure to fill young talent on that team is a great 282 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,160 reason why he's not, you know, not a one or one see. 283 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,160 Yeah, I'd go with that. 284 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,760 I'd go with that for sure. 285 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,000 So interesting to see what happens. 286 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,520 The Bills also made some additions to the coaching staff as well, bringing in Al Holcomb, 287 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,040 who was the interim defensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers. 288 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,720 He was calling plays when Steve Wilkes took on the interim head coach role there. 289 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,560 A lot of guys like Holcomb. 290 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,240 He's in his 50s. 291 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:15,300 He's considered one of the bright young defensive minds in the league, very likely to challenge 292 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:20,520 in the future for DC positions, maybe in Buffalo, Frazier doesn't return, you know, and then 293 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:26,280 we got a we got a guy like Bobby Babich on the coaching staff as well, who is highly 294 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:32,040 regarded around the league is like a budding defensive savant, like a budding defensive 295 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,040 genius. 296 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:38,800 So it's gonna be interesting to see not just what McDermott does from a play calling perspective, 297 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,760 but who's working with these position groups? 298 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,480 Who is he leaning on in these positional group meetings? 299 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,760 Who's coaching that actually coaching the defensive side of the ball and practice and 300 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,760 things like that? 301 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,480 Because you know, McDermott is going to scheme, he's going to work with the staff on that. 302 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,860 He's going to implement the play packages, he's going to do the play calling. 303 00:19:56,860 --> 00:20:00,840 But as you mentioned, as head coach, he's got other responsibilities, he's got to attend 304 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,840 to. 305 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,840 So it'll be interesting to see, especially in camp, is it Holcomb? 306 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Is it Babich? 307 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,400 Is that a combination of both? 308 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:15,160 Like who is going to be the McDermott brain trust that he elevates now that he is taking 309 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,380 on these play calling responsibilities? 310 00:20:17,380 --> 00:20:20,400 And who are the people he's going to delegate responsibility to? 311 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,920 Because that I think in and of itself will lend us some clues and how some of this defense 312 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,880 defensive personnel is going to be deployed. 313 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,840 I think it's also worthy to mention Joe Dana, who they picked up from Houston. 314 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:39,120 Houston was a terrible and they replaced Jim Salgado, who sort of was unceremoniously fired. 315 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:46,800 And I think that Jim Salgado was, I believe, unceremoniously fired mostly because the young 316 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:51,760 safeties on the team, when Hyde and Poirier each went down with injuries, did not look 317 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,920 prepared for the task. 318 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,480 And I feel like they blamed it, probably 50% on the players and 50% on Salgado for not 319 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,480 getting them ready. 320 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:06,460 Meanwhile, Joe Dana, the sinking ship that was the Houston Texans, was able to help coach 321 00:21:06,460 --> 00:21:12,880 a secondary group that gave up the fewest passing touchdowns, tie with the Jets, and 322 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,120 was top 10 in passing yards overall. 323 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:22,320 So he seemed to have been a good addition and we'll see how he is. 324 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,320 I guess fifth fewest yards, ninth fewest passing TDs in the year prior. 325 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,360 So Joe Dana might be cool, probably not going to be part of that brain trust that you're 326 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:38,520 talking about though, but likely will be an improvement to the position groups in the 327 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,360 back end. 328 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:44,520 Any other, I mean, Chad Hall left the wide receivers coach. 329 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,800 I'm not sure why. 330 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,360 That was a kind of peculiar one. 331 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:48,360 Yeah, peculiar departure. 332 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:52,920 Because I think he left for the Jacksonville Jaguars wide receivers coach job. 333 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,960 It was a lateral move to a different team in the AFC. 334 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,240 So I'm not sure about that one. 335 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,640 Did they replace him? 336 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:02,640 I don't know. 337 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,640 That's a good question. 338 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,480 I've got their coaching staff items here pulled up right now. 339 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,480 Let's see if, yep, Adam Henry is the new wide receivers coach. 340 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,480 Okay. 341 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,480 I think I read about him. 342 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,000 He's got a little bit of a, he's got a storied college career, but has not. 343 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Oh yeah. 344 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,040 He coached OBJ at LSU. 345 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,040 Yeah. 346 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Yep. 347 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,040 So we'll see. 348 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,040 We'll see how it goes. 349 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,040 There's some changes. 350 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,840 There's some, I'm curious about it, but I think at the very core, what all Bill's fans should 351 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:33,160 be considering is we're going to probably see a different defensive attack. 352 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,700 And that's exciting. 353 00:22:34,700 --> 00:22:35,960 That's what we asked for. 354 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,960 Yep. 355 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,960 That's what everyone asked for. 356 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,640 And maybe there's an element of be careful what you wish for, but Bill's fans, Bill's 357 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,200 mafia, you asked for that. 358 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,200 Yeah. 359 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,440 I don't want to hear anybody in week four when we give up a couple long passing touchdowns 360 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,920 while McDermott has a really saucy blitz dialed up. 361 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,420 I don't want to hear, I wish Frazier was back. 362 00:22:55,420 --> 00:22:56,800 He would never have let this happen. 363 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,080 I know you sons of bitches, you asked for this. 364 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,080 That's right. 365 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,200 It's happening. 366 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,200 Just accept it. 367 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,960 So yeah, so those are the major changes. 368 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:11,600 I think that the real core of the story though, before I got off on the tangent is that McDermott's 369 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,600 going to be calling plays. 370 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,600 The defense is going to look a little different. 371 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,160 They have some different bodies in the room in terms of position coaches and assistants 372 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,160 there. 373 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:28,520 And on offense, we have year two Dorse and we have a new wide receivers coach. 374 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,840 And I think that everybody in Bill's mafia that I talked to and myself included has the 375 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,880 same opinion, which is, I don't care about who's calling plays. 376 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,720 Can we please just have a meaningful offensive line that's capable of protecting Josh Allen 377 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,600 for more than three seconds on a critical third down play. 378 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,600 That's all I want. 379 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,960 Well, and you know, this feels to me like a good transition to talk about free agency 380 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:59,840 because the Buffalo Bills did address interior offensive line in particular in free agency, 381 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,600 signing some depth pieces, signing a very probable starter in Conor McGovern. 382 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,600 And it is all bookended by the end of season press conference. 383 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:14,880 And then most recently at the owners meetings where Brandon Bean at first, after the season 384 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,480 was like alluding to the need to protect Josh, but Josh also protect himself at the owners 385 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:24,040 meetings, he was basically begging Josh to change his running style. 386 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,240 And I think that's fine. 387 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,780 But I also think then you need to give Josh an excuse to not run for his life on every 388 00:24:30,780 --> 00:24:37,520 play and fix the offensive line and invest some premium draft capital in that line. 389 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:43,120 Now what I will say that I liked about free agency is that we didn't go for the worn over 390 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:48,680 veterans on like maybe their last hurrah type of contract like we did with Sappho last year. 391 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:55,000 Bean actually invested in some younger guys in their mid 20s that still have some upside 392 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,440 and then maybe another short contract in them if they outplay the terms of their current 393 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,480 deals. 394 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,480 So I did like what Bean did here with the offensive line. 395 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,360 But JJ, since this is your bread and butter, this is where you butter your bread, so to 396 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:10,520 speak, the offensive line play. 397 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,760 Do you want to kick us off with a little chat about Conor McGovern, probably the marquee 398 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,760 offensive line signing for the Bills this offseason? 399 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,000 Well, I mean, if you're going to look just at the dollars and cents of it, he's the marquee 400 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:28,760 signing end of end of article for the Buffalo Bills this period. 401 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,800 The bills, the bills, I put Poe, I put Poe up there. 402 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,400 I think Poe's the marquee signing. 403 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,520 But I don't think he made more money than Conor McGovern. 404 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,160 Actually, I think you're right. 405 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,600 So the deal Poe came back on was crazy. 406 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,560 So I think that, you know, we'll flip over to defense in a second, talk about the Poe 407 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,200 deal and rap and stuff like that. 408 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,120 But all pro Poe can't wait to talk about that. 409 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:55,200 So yeah, but on the but Conor McGovern, it's interesting because I've watched a couple 410 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,160 of his games. 411 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,400 He is pretty tenacious with with his anchor in pass protection. 412 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:08,060 He is not great in run blocking. 413 00:26:08,060 --> 00:26:13,520 He tends to get kind of lost in the wash a little bit when he's when he's out in space. 414 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,040 He is an athlete. 415 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,380 I think he matches what we've expected to see from the Buffalo Bills when they're looking 416 00:26:19,380 --> 00:26:22,760 for an offensive alignment, is they're going to be pretty high on the relative athletic 417 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,760 score. 418 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,760 And he is. 419 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,520 He and David Edwards both are pretty solid in that regard. 420 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:34,580 I mean, I for one just love the fact that, you know, they're 20, 25 and 26 respectively, 421 00:26:34,580 --> 00:26:40,400 the two guards that they signed, which is a departure from the Bobby hearts and the, 422 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,680 you know, Roger Stafford's and things like that, that the bills have been trying to get 423 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,680 by with. 424 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,760 It's nice to get somebody developmental and younger in their career who we're not trying 425 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,040 to capture the what was we're trying to build for what could be. 426 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,040 And so that's exciting. 427 00:26:54,040 --> 00:27:00,240 I think that Conor McGovern is an absolute upgrade at either guard spot in past protection. 428 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:05,560 And that is amazing because more than it's interesting. 429 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,400 So there's two different, you know, of course, there's two different facets of offensive 430 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,680 blocking and surrounding run blocking and pass blocking. 431 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:19,520 But when you talk about how much one individual effort can make a difference in pass blocking 432 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,440 or run blocking, run blocking is the place for that. 433 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,360 That's where you can see Spencer Brown or Mitch Morse or Deon Dawkins wash like four 434 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,840 guys out of a play because their body position is perfect and they're on the move and they're 435 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,000 pushing somebody and they fall into somebody else and that sort of thing. 436 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:41,920 Pass blocking is way more of the team sport and way more might be an exaggeration, but 437 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,160 pass blocking is about having that kind of preternatural sense to know where the gaps 438 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,020 are too wide and where they're too tight between you and the guy next to you without actually 439 00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:54,920 talking to or making eye contact with them or seeing what they're doing with their block. 440 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,400 You just sort of feel. 441 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,400 You feel where you are in space, where they are, where your vulnerabilities are. 442 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,200 And then it's all about like quick hands, quick body position. 443 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,000 That's something that I think Connor McGovern really has going for him is, like I said, 444 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,280 he's got a great anchor. 445 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,200 He tends to get bull rushed off the off the snap by much bigger, much more talented defensive 446 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,040 tackles like, you know, an Aaron Donald, for instance, is probably going to blow him up 447 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,400 without help on the air and blow up everybody. 448 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,400 But I get what you're saying. 449 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,400 Right. 450 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,400 We got to see Bradley Chubb. 451 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,400 We got to see Christian Wilkins. 452 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,440 We got to see all of these. 453 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,440 Yeah, I get it. 454 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,480 I will tell the thing that I'll say about Connor McGovern that I like. 455 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,220 He's going to get he's going to get punched in the mouth with that initial pop by any 456 00:28:38,220 --> 00:28:43,800 of those like high talent defensive tackles, but he's not going to be an immediate win 457 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,800 like Roger Saffold was or like Ryan Bates has been on occasion. 458 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,960 Ryan Bates had a better year than I think I gave him credit for during the year. 459 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,400 He was somewhat solid. 460 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,360 I think he struggled because he had Spencer Brown next to him who played God awful. 461 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,720 Similarly, I think that Dawkins and Morris both seem seem to have, you know, the talk 462 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,200 as they had a down year. 463 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,080 I think they were trying to cover up for Saffold so much that, you know, they of course weren't 464 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,400 able to play to their best because he was an absolute liability. 465 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,800 And that's not Connor McGovern. 466 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:20,560 I think he's a valuable to above average offensive starter on the line in pass protection and 467 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,200 an average to below average run blocker. 468 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:30,320 He was probably the fifth best starter on that Dallas Cowboys offensive line. 469 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:36,920 I would argue that he is probably the second best offensive lineman on the Buffalo Bills. 470 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,920 Right. 471 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,400 I mean, listen, I I like Dawkins. 472 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,640 I feel like Dawkins is maybe one or two seasons away from shifting over to guard himself. 473 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,640 Yeah. 474 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,320 I just don't know how much how much pop off the edge he has anymore. 475 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,480 You know, being has been defiant about Spencer Brown. 476 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:01,280 It makes me think one of two things either like we're all wrong about Spencer Brown and 477 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,040 the Bills and their player development guys just are like, this is the year he's going 478 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,040 to pop. 479 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,040 Right. 480 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,840 And just be patient and you guys are all going to eat shit when it's done. 481 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,840 Yeah. 482 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,960 Or I think he was probably more hurt than was reported during the course of the season. 483 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,400 He was probably playing through some significant injuries. 484 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,680 I'm going to venture I guess it might be a combination of both because we know he had 485 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,040 the back injury to start the season. 486 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:31,360 But that the depth of the Buffalo Bills offensive line or the lack thereof was just exposed 487 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,340 would felt like game after game after game as a result of injuries. 488 00:30:35,340 --> 00:30:37,760 The injury bug that bit that team. 489 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,040 I know it hit us in the secondary but it hits in the offensive line last season about as 490 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,520 big as anywhere else. 491 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:49,160 And the depth of that line or the lack thereof being what it was, Brown maybe felt like he 492 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,560 had to go out there and play through health circumstances that normally he wouldn't. 493 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,720 Stuff that wouldn't get him necessarily on injured reserve but maybe would make him a 494 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,600 healthy scratch for a game or two if things were a little bit better along that line. 495 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,160 I felt the same way about Poirier truth be told. 496 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,280 I think Poirier played through just a ton of injuries last year when normally he wouldn't 497 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,920 because of the lack of depth around him. 498 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,520 So I mean maybe it's that. 499 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,660 I don't know. 500 00:31:17,660 --> 00:31:22,160 But being and McDermott both seem to be ride or dies right now with Spencer Brown. 501 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,320 And for me I wouldn't hesitate to draft a rookie with a premium pick in the first three 502 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,600 rounds to compete with that dude. 503 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,120 Because at the end of the day pride is one thing results are another. 504 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,200 You cannot have your quarter of a billion dollar quarterback getting crushed off the 505 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,680 right edge and getting chased out of the pocket like he was last season. 506 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,680 So it's interesting. 507 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,760 It's interesting. 508 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,040 And I think Morris is still good. 509 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,360 Like Morris is probably still their best offensive lineman. 510 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,360 But yeah. 511 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,160 Well I can't like I have this feeling about Deon Dawkins. 512 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,600 I know Deon Dawkins is a fan favorite and maybe I'm going to make some enemies here. 513 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:05,160 But I Deon Dawkins the way Deon Dawkins plays the way he interviews and the way he like 514 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:12,960 presents himself I just keep thinking he is a person who was a hungry hungry tackle got 515 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:19,640 that bag and has like slacked on his work a little bit like he's immeasurably talented. 516 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,240 I don't think that's right. 517 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,880 He's immeasurably talented. 518 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,920 He can without without maximum effort. 519 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,000 He's above average as a left tackle in this league. 520 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,200 And that's where we live right now is less than maximum effort from our massively paid 521 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,760 left tackle Deon Dawkins who's a character. 522 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:44,200 And I love the guy as a person but I feel like he doesn't work as hard as he did before 523 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,120 he got that huge contract. 524 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,040 And it shows or he's or he's you know he's he's been an Ironman mostly. 525 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,880 Covid did him a number twice. 526 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,080 And so you know I want to like cast aspersions on work ethic if it's also just that he's 527 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,680 still like working his way back. 528 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,360 I know that that can be a thing with long Covid symptoms. 529 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:08,760 And so you know I hope to see Deon Dawkins rejuvenate my my belief in him this year. 530 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,920 And I think that and it's always so tough because I think Deon Dawkins has looked bad 531 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,840 when he's had bad guards next to him and has looked so much better when he has good guards. 532 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,680 And again I think it's because you cannot give up your inside gap and he's so worried 533 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,580 about it that he gets beat around the edge because you know the pressure rate rate inside 534 00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:31,440 the center's you know left shoulder is much more dangerous to Josh Allen than Deon Dawkins 535 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,000 given somebody a half half-ass shelf to the outside and them looping around. 536 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,000 So yeah. 537 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Yeah. 538 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,760 You're bolstering my argument for why Conor McGovern is already our second best starter 539 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,520 in the offensive line. 540 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,320 But just for a moment on Spencer Brown you're right they're so bullish on him like making 541 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,140 the jump and being a quality starter. 542 00:33:51,140 --> 00:33:54,000 I mean it's like they're watching different fucking games. 543 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,000 Yeah. 544 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,800 It's it's it's pretty pronounced. 545 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,640 It's yeah it's I don't understand what they see that I'm not seeing unless unless it is 546 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,160 an injury that we don't realize like you had said you know. 547 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,160 Yeah. 548 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,000 Was borderline keeping him putting him on IR for the rest of the season but they had 549 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,880 such terrible choices behind him that you know that he just stayed and was able to gut 550 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,880 it out. 551 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:20,960 We'll see I think this is the year though I think that if you have a healthy Ryan Bates 552 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:27,240 David Edwards and Conor McGovern and one of the three of them is next to Spencer Brown 553 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:30,680 he won't and he's healthy and he doesn't have another surgery or anything and he makes the 554 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,920 whole way through training camp you know healthy. 555 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,160 There's no more excuses. 556 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,400 You've removed all the variables at that point and that's the make or break here and I'm 557 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,960 with you like I people listening won't won't have seen it but the whole time you're talking 558 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,320 about bringing in a young tackle I was just nodding my head enthusiastically like I was 559 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,200 at a metal show because we need that. 560 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,800 That is what is needed for this bill's offensive line more than anything is an infusion of 561 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,920 high end like young talent on rookie contracts. 562 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:08,440 We can't keep paying you know Conor McGovern who's likely a B to C tier starter in the 563 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,640 league. 564 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,880 How dare you disparage a number two offensive lineman like that. 565 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,600 Oh I will never take it back because the B to C starter is the number two best offensive 566 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,680 lineman on this. 567 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,520 This is all right. 568 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:28,040 So that for it and you're just making my point for me that we need young cheap talent from 569 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,040 the draft from the top three rounds of the draft at some point one of them at least just 570 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,600 one tackle slash guard in the top three rounds would just make my day and I know it's not 571 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:43,000 a great draft after the first 20 for elite you know offensive line talent but there's 572 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,840 got to be somebody who's an at least above average starter in those middle rounds. 573 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,160 Yeah I mean and we'll talk about this when we get into the draft but drafting your if 574 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,560 it's not a good if it's not going to be a Spencer Brown replacement then you at least 575 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,320 got to start thinking about Dawkins because it was interesting I thought that they didn't 576 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,160 restructure or extend Dawkins because he's only got a couple of years left on his deal 577 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,840 at this point. 578 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,880 You know and you don't want to restructure all of your big contracts all at once. 579 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:16,160 They did digs so that you know now digs dead cap hit is like the GDP of Latvia. 580 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,520 I think if we try to get rid of him so you don't want to kick all your money down the 581 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,320 road you want to have some bigger contracts to restructure and stagger that and Bean's 582 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,880 been a genius at that but I did find it interesting they didn't they didn't dip into that well 583 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:35,160 with Dawkins or decide to extend him so it's it'll be it's going to be interesting to see 584 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,040 what happens next offseason with with Dawkins and the salary cap situation that we're looking 585 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,000 at but well but yeah go ahead. 586 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,520 You want to know nothing else about Dawkins in the line but I do want to you know maybe 587 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,560 it's this point in time where we just hit very quickly just for the you know the literal 588 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,760 cost of doing business all the restructures that the bills did go you know take take because 589 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,600 they came into free agency before we kind of set you know talk about for agency we set 590 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:06,440 the stage the bills came in to free agency about 22 or 24 million dollars over the sets 591 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:12,160 the NFL salary cap they needed to get that down in early March and they did so by restructuring 592 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,520 Josh Allen kicking the can down the road turning some of his guaranteed money into bonus and 593 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:22,400 they saved 21.14 million and then they told Naeem Hines that he was going to get cut unless 594 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,720 he took a pay cut and his reason one yes he took one thankfully his restructures 1.3 I 595 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:30,800 really like him as a kick returner I think he offers something on offense I'd like to 596 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,280 see another year with him in the system they went ahead like you mentioned and changed 597 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:41,760 Stefan Diggs contract a little bit to give to give themselves 5.4 million but again that 598 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,960 makes his dead cap massive Von Miller same they made sure that he's going to be there 599 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,760 for you know all three of his three guaranteed years and we'll have more dead cap if they 600 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,240 if they cut him at that point and save 10.6 Tim Settle similar thing to Naeem Hines took 601 00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:01,440 a pay cut to stay they said we're going to cut you if you don't you know take it so they 602 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:08,480 saved a chip of 600 grand and then Matt Milano this one I think is very nice they did a two 603 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:14,040 year extension essentially they didn't add any actual years to the contract as it was 604 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:19,880 written he had two years of void years on his contract and they turned those void years 605 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,160 instead of make believe years into real years real years right and so they were able to 606 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:31,240 like provide him some secure financial security and save some cap room on his you know 2023 607 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:36,720 salary earnings by paying him up front and making him last more you know he's on the 608 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:40,320 roster longer at this point which I think is great I think that they saw the writing 609 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,600 on the wall that Tremaine Edmonds was going to end up getting the bag and walking and 610 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:49,360 they wanted to keep at least one half of their great linebacker duo in place. 611 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,360 Yep and I like that as well I thought that was a I thought it was a solid move by the 612 00:38:54,360 --> 00:39:00,600 bills I mean it Milano is our Bobby Boucher I've said it a thousand times on this podcast 613 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:07,360 but that dude is just a heat seeking missile in and around the ball and he he's had some 614 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:14,600 injuries but but nothing that would preclude us I think from thinking that he is going 615 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,300 to remain relatively healthy through the end of this contract and that's always the thing 616 00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:23,660 that you want to keep in mind when you extend guys or when you when you kick money down 617 00:39:23,660 --> 00:39:29,120 the road is are you going to be taking on the full financial burden of a lot of these 618 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:34,680 kicked contracts all of these restructured deals when that player is no longer productive 619 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,240 that's why I found it very interesting they didn't dip into that well with with Dawkins 620 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:45,160 or talk about an extension with Dawkins because I don't know that they necessarily feel confident 621 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,720 right now that Dawkins is going to be productive through the end of a two-year extension or 622 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:54,560 that he's going to be worth the money at kicking some of his salary down the road a little 623 00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,800 bit I think and we'll talk about this when we talk about season storylines I think Dawkins 624 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,640 is going to be a fascinating storyline to watch heading into the season and not just 625 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:11,880 how he plays but how the organization is reacting to to what they see with him even if he has 626 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,800 a improved year if it's not a career year it's not looking like it was what what he 627 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,840 was producing at a high level yeah I think the draft is going to tell you a lot about 628 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,520 what they think more about Dawkins than what they think about Brown because obviously they 629 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:32,880 think Brown is like freaking the next great tackle in this league so if they do go tackle 630 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,800 in the first three rounds I think it tells you where they think Dawkins is at this stage 631 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,520 in his career for sure well and especially if that tackle has a you know really fast 632 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,080 feet and is more athletic and is more like the the prototype left tackle for a right-handed 633 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,600 quarterback then yeah I think that that might be oh he's just going to be our swing tackle 634 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,280 Dawkins is hitting the bricks after two years or a year yep Matt Bergeron right down the 635 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:02,200 road at SU man I want that dude I want that guy give me that guy all right I don't want 636 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,720 to talk draft yet because we got more free agency to talk so JJ offensive line was a 637 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:12,120 big big focal point for Bills fans ire at the end of the season as was the wide receiver 638 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:18,160 room so Stefan Diggs had another great year massive target share we talked about that 639 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,640 throughout the course of the season just the amount of targets that digs was getting in 640 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:29,240 comparison to the season prior to that we thought Mackenzie would flash a little bit 641 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:34,500 more he didn't Gabe Davis after his 4 TD game in the 13 second game against Kansas City 642 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:38,640 thought he was gonna have a breakout season he ended up being kind of a bust all the way 643 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:44,240 around maybe the most overdrafted person in fantasy football to start the season last 644 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:48,640 year and all of those owners were were quite frankly devastated with his lack of output 645 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,960 throughout the course of the year so wide receiver room is something the Bills knew 646 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,520 they needed to address but JJ this was a week this was a very weak wide receiver free agent 647 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:05,400 market when it came to looking for a solid number two opposite of digs opposite of our 648 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:12,520 X Davis did not prove that he could be a snap to snap down to down guy in that role there 649 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,400 just wasn't a lot of guys on the free agent market so the Bills do what they do they tended 650 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:23,920 to their depth and they gave themselves some some gadgety maybe speedy options in the slot 651 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:30,960 and again went young last year we had the corpses of Cole Beasley and John Brown back 652 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:36,040 in a wide receiver room after they had basically been cast off by other teams in the league 653 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,720 again this time around and this is what I like what I'm seeing from being actually signing 654 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:46,880 some younger guys in their early to mid 20s that still have some upside potentially beyond 655 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,120 this deal so the two two marquee guys that the Bills brought in here to add depth to 656 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:57,480 the wide receiver room were Deontah Hardy and Trent Sherfield or Sherfeld the guy who 657 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:06,080 we know from the Miami Dolphins our our divisional rival both have special teams chops a lot 658 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:14,520 of people are are thinking that Hardy is gonna get some potential return opportunities which 659 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,560 he's been an all-pro punt returner despite the fact of having nine muff punts throughout 660 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,320 the course of his career but I think he's gonna be a super interesting one and then 661 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:29,440 of course Sherfeld is you know he's a special teams maven with a lot of speed and JJ those 662 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:35,040 are two things that I think these guys have in common they're young they're fast and I'll 663 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,920 add a third is that they can catch the ball which was another problem for this Bills wide 664 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:46,720 receiver room even with digs last year digs had his highest drop rate of his career last 665 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:53,360 year in a Bills uniform so these are a couple of sure-handed guys Hardy despite the punt 666 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,920 muffs is very sure-handed very sure-handed when running routes what do you think of these 667 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,400 two sidings obviously I think I think there's more work to be done in this room because 668 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,320 we still need a true number two beyond digs but what do you think of the options the Bills 669 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:15,560 have added to offense here yeah I mean I will always take a young fast receiver over a fast 670 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:21,920 old receiver who hasn't been productive like John Brown or a small not fast no longer productive 671 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,280 receiver like Cole Beasley like I like those guys I like those guys as they had been in 672 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:31,720 their Bills career but they have passed that barrier they've passed that wall into you 673 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:35,080 know they no longer have the same kind of pop they can no longer offer the same kind 674 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,520 of competitiveness and so I really like these two sidings I think they're good depth signs 675 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,680 I agree with you that I think it's pretty critical that this this Bills team whether 676 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:52,760 it's a draft day trade for DHOP or you know somebody in the top few rounds we can talk 677 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,680 draft a lot more but I have this like strong fear that the top three picks in the Bills 678 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,680 draft are all defensive players and there's been a couple of mucks yeah like that post 679 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:07,880 and we don't we don't get a tackle slash guard or a new you know left tackle error parent 680 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,640 or swing tackle or we don't get a wide receiver or tight end in the first few rounds like 681 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:18,040 I'd be really disappointed because I do think that you're right they need a bonafide number 682 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:25,000 two receiver who really threatens you know the defense a la how Hill and Waddle are in 683 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,040 Miami and I thought it was interesting that a lot of Miami fans were really upset to have 684 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:35,720 sure field walk because when defenses started planning to take away Hill and Waddle surefield 685 00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:40,240 was eating and he was doing he was looking good for sure he's a fast player he's got 686 00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:45,080 good hands like you mentioned he in the first Bills meeting was the reason that they had 687 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:50,160 the the butt punt oh yep and so he's a personal protector and I blame the punter more than 688 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,720 than him he's in tight spaces back there but but yeah I mean I like that guy he was the 689 00:45:55,720 --> 00:46:01,080 best blocking wide receiver on their entire team and so I like to see him bring that to 690 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:07,160 the bills and I think it's probable that we let did they already let Kumero walk oh yeah 691 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,480 they let Kumero walk he's a future he's a future New Jersey jet going to join his boy 692 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:17,760 a rod yes yeah so with Kumero walking they really have they've upgraded his position 693 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:23,220 because surefield offers all the same stuff Kumero did on special teams but plus he is 694 00:46:23,220 --> 00:46:28,800 as good if not better of a run blocker and he can be a threat in the passing game can 695 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,920 play real meaningful snaps and that I like Kumero just fine but Kumero's issue was he 696 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,560 was not a separator I think surefield has separation ability a little bit more because 697 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:44,240 he's way more of an athlete yes just and I like what the Bills are going for with that 698 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:49,440 and I agree I want to talk drafts so bad next week I can't wait because there's you know 699 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:55,040 there's mixed opinions about this wide receiver class and there's not a lot of big guys there's 700 00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:00,960 a lot of small gadgety guys so there's not a lot of big traditional what guys that you 701 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,120 would think like the who do Jones exactly exactly there's a you know Quentin Johnson 702 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:11,040 from TCU is probably the closest thing we got to that 80 Perry might be in striking 703 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,900 distance for the Bills out of Wake Forest he's another big solid route want runner bring 704 00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:21,960 some size to the table but man there are some really tiny fast dudes in here with really 705 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,940 good hands that I would love to see in this offense so it but I definitely think that 706 00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:33,280 love the additions of Hardy and surefield to the mix here but I don't think it precludes 707 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:41,980 the Bills drafting to either a guy that's got outside inside versatility like you know 708 00:47:41,980 --> 00:47:47,480 I like Khalil Shakir a ton we talked about Shakir a lot last season we both had a chance 709 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,200 to see Shakir live in a couple of games and his ability to get quick separation he's a 710 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:58,240 cleaner out runner has to work on his his you know point of catch but was a yak master 711 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:04,080 for the Bills last season comparative to the other guys in that room we both like Shakir 712 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,880 but the reality is like Shakir is the fifth round pick there's no reason why the Bills 713 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:15,680 couldn't bring a get bring in a guy like Jordan Addison with outside inside versatility and 714 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:21,520 do some fun things with Shakir and with Addison or another wide receiver edition I would like 715 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:27,400 to see Gabe Davis potentially if they can get another bona fide number two in this draft 716 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:33,400 I'd love to see Gabe Davis play some power slot a la Keem Hex who is a guy who you and 717 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,180 I talked about was drafted by the Giants I would love to see him in some of those like 718 00:48:38,180 --> 00:48:43,720 running situations out there in a power slot situation just pasting guys up the middle 719 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:50,140 because Davis is a really good run blocker and it would other and it would give the Bills 720 00:48:50,140 --> 00:48:53,520 I think a little bit of deception in their run packages that they just didn't have this 721 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,720 year they played a bunch of jumbo sets they played a bunch of heavy sets to run the ball 722 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:05,120 because it's the only way they could get some push if you've got you could run feasibly 723 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:10,960 some really creative stuff with both Sheerfield and Davis playing some sort of quirky power 724 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,560 slot role in a three wide receiver set that you could actually run effectively out there's 725 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:22,040 a dude dude there's some cool options that the Bills have if they can if they can just 726 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:27,520 get one more piece so that wide receiver room like a like a Jalen Hyatt out of Tennessee 727 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:34,480 who is just voice scripts for hands rockets on his feet that dude can run he can catch 728 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,920 and you've got to respect his ability to take the top off of a defense so that there is 729 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:47,600 there like dude they're one one wide receiver away from this room being really really special 730 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,280 and really dangerous and Jalen Hyatt is awesome but you got to spend 27 if you want Jalen 731 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:58,280 Hyatt you maybe yeah I mean so it's interesting well we're going to talk about this in the 732 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,720 draft right but Hyatt because he didn't run a sub four four four fourty people are like 733 00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:10,400 well is he is he slow now no watch that gate watch that dude's tape he plays so freaking 734 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:16,040 fast that kid's ridiculous he's got to polish the route running a little bit but that's 735 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,840 a dude Josh is never going to out throw I just I want to talk about the draft we got 736 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,520 to get the defensive side of the ball because we're still still talking free agency yeah 737 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:29,360 and I'll finish I'll finish the offensive side of free agency Deontay Hardy many people 738 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,720 might know him if you like play Madden or pay attention to the league or you know offense 739 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:38,920 football he used to be Deontay Harris he actually took his his adopted father's his stepfather's 740 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:44,320 name stepdad's name yeah and changed his name which I you know super nice character move 741 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:50,600 really confusing to a lot of people but um he he looked excellent two years ago last 742 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:55,920 year was shortened by injury and so I'm really hoping that he comes back super healthy and 743 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:01,120 can turn things on because he's as quick as lightning has really good hands and is one 744 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:07,680 of the rare small guys who can also be a vertical threat and so I really like that and then 745 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,880 Damien Harris the running back from New England who you know had that 70 yard touchdown or 746 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,200 whatever in the wind game that the Bills lost has been beating up on the Bills for a few 747 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:21,280 years now as a powerful between the tackles runner he is he's joined the Bills on a one 748 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:27,400 year 1.7 dollar or seven million dollar minimum vet deal which is excellent money for that 749 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:32,880 you know that kind of value so we're looking forward to him and then finally Kyle Allen 750 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:41,880 on the offensive side replaced the sorry I'm blanking on Case Keenum Kyle Allen Josh Allen's 751 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:48,680 best friend for a long time now in terms of quarterback offseason hanging out he joined 752 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:54,680 the the Bills as their backup QB for one year 1.2 million dollar you know like a minimums 753 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:59,920 deal again I think that's enough to caddy for Josh yeah exactly he is he's also his 754 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:05,720 caddy when Josh is at Masters tournaments and things like that and pro-ams so Kyle Allen 755 00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:10,240 it's a fine choice I think that you know really it's a it's a nod to the fact that the season 756 00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:15,480 is lost if we lose Josh Allen so and they just probably are like well you got the same 757 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:21,320 jersey so maybe they just won't know and just we'll stick you out there and we'll get by 758 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:30,320 on looks alone I hear Aaron Rodgers is available yeah if that happens so yeah speaking of you 759 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:36,880 know those are the major offensive signings Bills have not signed any defensive talent 760 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:45,440 from another team other than Taylor Rapp who is a safety from the Los Angeles Rams won 761 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:53,040 a Super Bowl had a down year last year but was able to you know was able to come over 762 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,680 to the Bills and I think that's a surprising signing because he actually did not sign for 763 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:04,640 very much money at all and was largely seen as like a middle to upper middle tier starting 764 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:10,160 safety in the league when he entered free agency and so you know most of the bills work 765 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:15,240 on defense has been re signings and we can talk about those but Taylor Rapp was the only 766 00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:19,480 one they got from outside the building and I'm fairly excited I'm really excited about 767 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,960 that one but where do you want to start defense well I mean we've already alluded to Jordan 768 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:29,920 Poir right but I think to finish the conversation on rap being that he is the only the only 769 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:36,240 new new addition to this defense it tells you everything that you like they lost Jack 770 00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:43,060 Johnson in free agency because he just he kid didn't pan out right I think he went to 771 00:53:43,060 --> 00:53:47,360 Las Vegas he's on a one year deal with the Raiders or something like that they needed 772 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:52,840 to add depth at safety they've got two great safeties employer and hide hide is coming 773 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:59,260 off spinal fusion surgery and Poir is coming off his most injured season so they needed 774 00:53:59,260 --> 00:54:06,080 a reliable veteran presence to serve as a depth option also not knowing whether or not 775 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:11,240 Damar Hamlin will be cleared to play at the start of the season as well and we all know 776 00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:16,920 Hamlin's incredible story and and the tragedy and then the triumph that came from that so 777 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,960 they needed to add some reliability we talk about this all the time the ability to raise 778 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,520 the floor with your depth options right you it's nice if you can find a high ceiling guy 779 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,440 on there sometimes but ultimately with your depth you're just raising the floor and rap 780 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:37,400 really does raise the floor and I think if Poir and hide stay healthy he gives McDermott 781 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:43,960 some really interesting options in dime sets so like those third and six third and seven 782 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:49,720 maybe some clear the really clear passing downs where the Bills are just going to be 783 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:55,080 tempted to drop everybody into coverage as they typically do 15 yards off the ball now 784 00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:00,200 all of a sudden you see a guy like Taylor rap who is okay in coverage he's average in 785 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,120 coverage but he's really good at attacking the line of scrimmage you see him come off 786 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,160 an exotic dime blitz package every now and then he gives you a little bit of speed a 787 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,160 little bit of pop off the edge I could see McDermott using him as a little bit of a chess 788 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,920 piece and some of those lighter defensive sets when it's an obvious passing down so 789 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:22,080 I think I think we could see rap play some meaningful snaps not as a starter barring 790 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,560 injury but I think we could see him really used and prioritized and get some specific 791 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:31,800 sub packages into the game plan for himself so I like rap and that's a dude who again 792 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,800 if he proves himself I could see them signing again to another deal beyond the season this 793 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:41,320 is kind of an earn it contract for rap so he's going to get an opportunity to play and 794 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,360 and we're going to see what he can bring to the table but yeah I'm excited for those those 795 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:51,720 depth additions there and then of course Jordan Poir all pro po the marquee defensive signing 796 00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:57,320 for this team resigning of this team and it was interesting how the bottom fell out of 797 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:03,280 the safety market after Jesse Bates like I saw lots of projections on like over the cap 798 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,720 and spot track and all this stuff about what rap might get what Poir might get Poir was 799 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:13,920 out there looking for 11 million a year I think I saw rap as high as like seven or eight 800 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:19,920 million a year and they ended up signing both of those guys for like a combined seven million 801 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:25,120 guaranteed right so it was interesting how that worked out but all pro po back in the 802 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:30,680 building the Bills 13 and one last season when Poir played again coming off his most 803 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:36,080 injury riddled season it looked like he was just strapping it up as much as he could knowing 804 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:41,280 the team needed him out there but I'm very excited to see Poir after a full seat a full 805 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:46,680 off season of rest and healing hide hopefully coming back to his prime form I am looking 806 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:52,760 forward to seeing the best safety tandem in the league potentially returned returned to 807 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:58,680 their their stomping grounds at Highmark Stadium this season so the poor signing was was fortuitous 808 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,200 for us because you and I both thought he was gone yeah and he was lobbying to go to Miami 809 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,880 to play opposite Jevon Holland he just wanted to play in warm weather he loves Florida he 810 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,640 lives there and do not have state income tax and no state income tax that was his tweet 811 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:17,520 New York state income tax still sucks but I'm back baby so yeah so it's great to have 812 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:23,240 Po back in the building the Bills outside of Edmonds JJ are and depending on what they 813 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:29,080 do with Ed Oliver they're gonna return 10 of 11 defensive starters to the unit this 814 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:34,000 season you know only one they lost and it's a notable loss and probably the the only other 815 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:39,280 free agent bit worth talking about the loss of Tremaine Edmonds signing a Mac Daddy deal 816 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:45,800 with the Chicago Bears hold on hold up you said that the like the only thing remaining 817 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:52,440 notable to talk about the Buffalo Bills extended Sam Martin the punter for three years my friend 818 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:57,880 I said defense we have not even gotten into specials yet my friend but yeah no no no 819 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,960 Sam we have actually dedicated for those of you that don't know another 45 minutes just 820 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:08,520 talking about Sam Martin's deal and what it means for for capital part by his directional 821 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:13,720 punting versus his average hang time and depth of snap so it's gonna be great right it's 822 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:18,520 an incentive weighted package can't wait can't wait so yeah it's we got to talk about Edmonds 823 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:23,440 right because that's the dude who he had his best he's a nice player he was a really good 824 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,440 player last year for the Bills people are gonna miss him as much as they talk crap they're 825 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:33,520 gonna yeah they're gonna miss him and here and they're gonna miss him once they see how 826 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:39,680 I think Chicago is gonna use him so his average annual value contract is 18 million a year 827 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:47,720 that's more than guys like Fred Warner or Ro Kwan Smith so that's not middle linebacker 828 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:53,400 stick in coverage and like swat balls money that's sack the QB money my friend and you 829 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:58,140 and I talked about this about Edmonds coming out of the draft you had this amazing analogy 830 00:58:58,140 --> 00:59:05,400 use him as a sword not a shield this Chicago Bears sign multiple linebackers this season 831 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:12,440 they send the guy out of Philly I can't remember his name off the top of my head but you know 832 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:18,120 they've got a they basically signed like four guys to replace Ro Kwan Smith right but when 833 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:23,440 you're rolling out that many linebackers again another devalued position you get a guy with 834 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:29,880 Edmonds skill set with his speed with his ferocity at the line of scrimmage I think 835 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:36,040 Eber Fluss is going to choose to use Edmonds and passing situations and nickel packages 836 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:41,580 is a edge rusher which is something that you and I talked about the bills needing to do 837 00:59:41,580 --> 00:59:47,360 more take advantage of that skill set that speed that ferocity and just let him run straight 838 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:52,160 into the line of scrimmage it's something that Frazier McDermott did not deploy often 839 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:58,040 with Edmonds in the lineup I think just by virtue of the contract to even Chicago to 840 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,400 even justify paying a linebacker that type of money they're going to need to see some 841 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:08,280 pass rush production out of him so I think Edmonds is in a great situation for him we're 842 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,760 going to miss him he was great for the bills but he's in a great situation in that it looks 843 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:16,880 like Chicago is actually going to use his the totality of his skill set which is what 844 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:23,400 the bills never did well it was TJ Edwards is the Philly linebacker so yeah TJ Edwards 845 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:28,720 and Tremaine Edmonds in the middle of your defense you can do far far worse than those 846 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,520 two holding down the center because they both played leadership roles in defenses that were 847 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:39,960 top of the top of the league defenses so I agree I think that it's probably the early 848 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:46,920 rumblings out of Chicago about Tremaine Edmonds is very much that he was cast in a role that 849 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,400 didn't take advantage of all of his talent and that they are looking forward to seeing 850 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:56,440 what he can do in this next iteration of his career I'm here for it you know any unless 851 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,560 the Chicago Bears are playing against the Bills I'm rooting for Tremaine Edmonds to 852 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:07,680 have an excellent excellent career and I could feel good about him succeeding elsewhere without 853 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,320 feeling bad about the Bills letting him walk because it's just the reality of the league 854 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:16,360 you cannot keep every talented player you have right with a salary cap you know in the 855 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:22,520 world of salary cap there's going to be sacrifices to make and 100% out of the time I'm going 856 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:29,040 to sacrifice paying Tremaine Edmonds to have Josh Allen on a massive contract yep absolutely 857 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:35,680 absolutely ten times out of ten you're gonna make that deal for sure so yeah so otherwise 858 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,840 the Buffalo Bills defense returning many of their starters from last season re-signed 859 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:44,920 Jordan Phillips as well Daquan Jones gonna be back at Oliver we'll see what happens with 860 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:50,520 that Oliver rumor has it he is on the trade block rumor also has it depending on what 861 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:56,280 websites and national outlets you read that there are some teams willing to give a day 862 01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:03,680 to pick for at Oliver and take that 10.5 million cap hit off of our books which I would take 863 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:10,040 yeah I would take that in a heartbeat if you could fill that hole though yeah being again 864 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:15,840 being again though is talking about long-term extension with Oliver which is fine but again 865 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:22,080 if you're Brandon Bean then you need to draft an actual one-tech you can't put like I see 866 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:28,240 some mocks that have Brian uh Brian Brisey yeah from Clemson coming to us that dude is 867 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:34,400 like 290 soaking wet and you're not going to put that dude in the one-tech next to Oliver 868 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:40,160 you're just gonna get lit up up the middle right so you got if you're fine sign Oliver 869 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:46,480 you and I both like is his athletic skill set yeah for sure but then draft a one-tech 870 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:52,480 an actual one-tech to play next to that dude draft so many the size of Daquan Jones but 871 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:57,840 younger right that's younger than Daquan Jones right so yeah so but all of that is is draft 872 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:03,640 talk that we can get to so overall JJ I think the highlights of free agency absolutely the 873 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:08,880 defense basically getting the band back together for one more run with hopefully some creative 874 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:14,560 play calling out of Sean McDermott this season the skull round the offense add some really 875 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:20,840 nice pieces along the offensive line youth speed catching ability in the wide receiver 876 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:28,200 room for once and for the first time in a long time for the Buffalo Bills and some where 877 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:33,560 you could see and some options where you could see both McDermott as a defensive play caller 878 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:38,080 and Dorsey as a second year offensive play caller use some of these pieces for positional 879 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,560 creativity and I think it telegraphs their hand with what they're gonna go for in the 880 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:46,400 draft pretty clearly at this point as well I think their draft needs at this point are 881 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,240 pretty clear they still want to address offensive line they're going to at some point probably 882 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:56,560 address edge because word on von Miller is that he might not be back till Thanksgiving 883 01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:03,880 if that given the nature of his recovery wide receiver is another one it wide receiver slash 884 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:08,600 pass catcher I would take I would take I would take a Dalton Kincaid or somebody like that 885 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:14,400 as a reliable tight end yeah but but overall if I were to sum up the Buffalo Bills free 886 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:21,260 agency roundup I would say it's exactly what being advertised no splash moves but exactly 887 01:04:21,260 --> 01:04:27,140 the type of high upside moves that you would expect a team to take they've raised their 888 01:04:27,140 --> 01:04:32,440 floor yet again right they've added a lot of really good depth and if one or two of 889 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,880 these guys they catch lightning in a bottle with it's going to be a very good year for 890 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:41,080 the Bills so again being doing what he does setting the team up for success in limiting 891 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:47,400 holes on the roster heading into the draft it was a very Brandon Bean offseason but I 892 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:54,040 will say it was less Brandon Bean than previous off seasons in terms of signing young higher 893 01:04:54,040 --> 01:05:00,400 upside higher athleticism talent than he has and I think it's interesting because I wonder 894 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:06,000 if it's the trend shift that we're seeing is that this team has moved into a different 895 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:14,160 phase of its process to where they don't need veteran leaders in the room coming in via 896 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:19,720 free agency they're building their home growing them so they can bring in younger talent who 897 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:25,040 will already have that leadership and that the backbone of backbone of how it's done 898 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:30,960 to lean on without having to like really look for character guys to set the tone agreed 899 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:36,720 agreed it's a it's a testament to the culture build that McDermott and Bean have have really 900 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:41,360 put into place there it really is because you've got Hyde Poyer as the leaders on that 901 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:47,280 side of the ball Allen has grown into this role digs it listen man all that offseason 902 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:52,560 nonsense about digs getting trader not wanting to be in Buffalo that no way that dude I want 903 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,440 that dude at my team ten times out of ten that's the dude I want and all that stuff 904 01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,480 like when people look oh he deleted the stuff the football stuff off of his social media 905 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:06,640 it's like that he most players do that every offseason to like rinse rinse their mouth 906 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,740 out from the taste of a losing season unless you're the Super Bowl winners like your banner 907 01:06:10,740 --> 01:06:16,560 photo is not going to be you and a win in an unsuccessful season where you didn't become 908 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,440 a champion like whatever like seriously it's nothing it doesn't matter social media doesn't 909 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:25,720 mean anything when my daughter beats me in Mario Kart I delete all of her pictures off 910 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:30,240 my Instagram just to cleanse the palette a little bit and absorb the loss you've given 911 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:35,520 that reference before and every time it's troubling oh have I have I have I talked have 912 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:42,040 I talked about like getting rid of my social media for my social media when they upset 913 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:51,280 you yeah no it's it's it's a reasonable response okay you've met them they're lovely but they 914 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:58,240 also don't listen to this pod song now I'm not worried either and to call it borderline 915 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,520 child abuse would be an exaggeration because I don't even have kids so I don't know that's 916 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,480 right now if anyone here is listening and you wanted to find child abuse and let me 917 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,520 know if I am actually carrying that deleting photos of them from my social media and essentially 918 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:17,080 let us know protecting their like actual privacy that's all I'm doing protecting their identity 919 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:23,720 that's right that's right child services oh my gosh we are in a hole so anyway the some 920 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:28,200 of the resigning is just to kind of like again you know this is a business the business of 921 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:32,880 the pod is making sure you're aware so David Quessonberry resigns Tyler medic avich you 922 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:38,240 know linebacker depth and special teams guy resigns Tyrell Dodson who might have a play 923 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:44,200 at the starting linebacker role if they can't fill in the draft not a Jack Campbell oh my 924 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:50,980 gosh you want Jack Campbell I want Drew Saunders we're both you know true I know I like Drew 925 01:07:50,980 --> 01:07:57,200 Saunders dude we need to talk I like Drew Saunders he's we just had drew a better Drew 926 01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:03,840 Saunders and Tremaine Edmonds and we saw how this team used coverage guy just go for go 927 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:09,520 for the prototype right just get if you just want a coverage middle linebacker just draft 928 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,440 a coverage middle linebacker for the love of God well and like you know I know this is 929 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,000 jumping ahead but I'll take the guy who's been I'll also happily take the guy who's 930 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:23,160 been coached up by Luke Keighley that's just yes the pills on defense also resigned Dean 931 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:31,120 Jackson and Cam Lewis to no one's pleasure and again but either but they know that it's 932 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:36,640 Elam's job yeah they're good depth that's good dude that's good depth yeah that's good 933 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:41,160 depth in the secondary but we really really like I if anybody out there is hoping to see 934 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:48,680 Dane Jackson while Kyrie Elam and and Trey Day are healthy I don't I don't know what 935 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:53,720 kind of bills fan you are like we have to see Elam and Trudevius like lock down those 936 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:59,340 outside jobs with Taron Johnson in the slot and that's an excellent three pair or three 937 01:08:59,340 --> 01:09:04,880 trio of CBEs to have on the front line get a healthy Christian Benford back right and 938 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:09,800 some yeah and some sub packages Taylor route or who we talked about how he could be used 939 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:16,280 in dime set yeah yeah it's a it's a fun it's a fun mix of defensive backs that the Buffalo 940 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:20,960 Bills have to play with this year for sure yeah so I mean anything else we need to talk 941 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:27,120 about free agency before we move on to next next week's draft expose Sam Martin no I'm 942 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,920 just playing I know I've already made that joke this pot but I am pleased I mean I'll 943 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:37,080 if I Sam Martin if you're listening welcome back buddy I'm just happy we have a reliable 944 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:43,160 professional punter in the building like that's Sam Martin jokes for you are like kids jokes 945 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:50,960 for me that's right that's right we both have our go-to bread is buttered that's right oh 946 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:58,920 good man to get back to to talk in and chat and bills bills bills team building what we 947 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:05,120 call it we just call it maddened GM mode maddened GM mode but much less maddening yes here and 948 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,960 it was a lot more like reasonable adult non-emotional moves which I was very proud to see it's too 949 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:15,840 late on a weekday for me to have puns but I appreciate that you do I I try I try to 950 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:20,480 bring what I can to the table like it yep so yeah so next week we'll talk draft week 951 01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:28,160 after we'll do our AFC East mock draft extravaganza with all of our our featured guests our Dolphins 952 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:34,040 fans Patriots fans and Jets fans and then we'll do our draft breakdown here heading 953 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:39,960 from April into May my friend we are we are approaching football season we really are 954 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:45,440 it's excited to be back in our shore cool so for those of you listening at home it like 955 01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:50,720 share and subscribe do not call child services wherever you get your podcast Apple Google 956 01:10:50,720 --> 01:11:16,920 and Spotify and as always go bills 957 01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:29,480 H