Alright, we are back.
The Buffalo Bread Podcast rides again.
Dan, it's been a minute.
This happens every year we've done the podcast now.
Three years running where we get to the point in the season just around and just after the
Super Bowl and we sort of have a football hangover for a minute and then we snap back
together before the draft and here we are.
That is the way.
This is the earliest we have snapped back from it as well.
Last year I think we, I mean, well last year was so devastating or two years ago now with
13 seconds, so devastating.
We actually took I think from like January until August off.
We needed a long one after that.
At least now it's April.
Yeah, we didn't even care about the due draft.
We just sort of like lived in our own squalor and filth.
But here we are.
I mean, that's a lot to say.
I think that everybody would agree that 13 seconds was far more heartbreaking than just
getting thoroughly manhandled by the Cincinnati Bengals in your own stadium in a snowstorm.
And so everybody started mourning that loss in the second quarter.
This one, you know, we recovered faster because as Bills fans often do, we have an incredible
tolerance for sadness and let down.
And we got to flex that.
We got to flex that muscle a little bit again this year, unfortunately.
And so we did some, you know, wrap ups with some of our AFC East friends and we'll look
to do some more with them in the near future on a mock draft special.
But here we are.
Let's get started.
Where are the Bills now?
What has been a change or development that you want to talk about first?
Well, I mean, we're now through the bulk of free agency.
So I think we should get to some of the additions and subtractions on the Bills roster.
But I think where you've got to start is a place where a lot of Bills fans, JJ, us included,
kind of left last season.
And that was with coaching staff.
Now there were some in Bills Mafia that were calling for Leslie Frazier to get fired.
We weren't necessarily calling for him to get fired.
But we had pointed out after his last five postseason games as a defensive coordinator,
that defense giving up an average of over 31 points a game in those five games, three
of which were losses.
We thought there needed to be a philosophical change on this Buffalo Bills coaching staff,
particularly on the defensive side of the ball.
It seemed just like the scheme had gotten tired.
It had been gotten predictable.
It was ineffective in a lot of ways.
We asked the question, like, what was this Bills defense good at throughout the course
of the year, and all we could come up with was consistency against lower achieving teams
or average offenses.
So as a result of all of that, we really felt like this Buffalo Bills defensive coaching
staff needed to get back to the drawing board and come up with some unique ways to use the
personnel they had on staff.
So the Bills are going to have an opportunity to do that, JJ, but it's going to be without
Leslie Frazier, as a lot of Bills fans by this point already know, in April, Leslie
Frazier is no longer the defensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills.
He is taking a one-year hiatus, says he wants to come back to coaching generally in the
2024 season, not necessarily saying it's going to be with the Buffalo Bills, which we can
get into that in a minute if we want to.
But it has been confirmed at this point that Sean McDermott will be calling plays.
And for Buffalo Bills fans who might have short memories, McDermott did actually take
over play calling in the 2020 COVID season for a bit when the Bills defense was struggling.
And McDermott really made his hey as a defensive coordinator.
That's what ultimately landed him this job in Buffalo, is that he had that great run
with Carolina, including a Super Bowl run as DC, proved himself to be a very adept defensive
play caller and worked his way up into the head coaching ranks.
So JJ, I think that's a logical place to start because there's a simmering excitement for
what people think McDermott might do with some of this personnel and what he might do
with this scheme.
A lot of folks are looking back to that 2016 season in the Carolina, looking for breadcrumbs
of what McDermott might do here with some of the personnel.
I think there's a reason for optimism with him taking over play calling duties.
But what are your thoughts, JJ, on the Frazier transition and McDermott ultimately being
our head coach slash DC this year?
Well, I think we've talked about it a number of times throughout the years we've been doing
this that Leslie Frazier has an excellent regular season defense.
The defense is the defense is something I've said a billion times.
His scheme and the way he coaches his players and the way he calls specific plays in specific
situations is incredibly safe.
It's meant to minimize big plays.
It's meant to reduce big time scoring plays over the top touchdowns and those sorts of
things.
And really, teams really have to work hard to make things happen.
And that has resulted in the Bills being a top 10 and oftentimes top five scoring defense
in yards, giving up defense in the league since his tenure with the Buffalo Bills.
However, in big moments against top competition, he has fallen short because top competition
can't be controlled in the same way that regular Joe's and backup quarterbacks can, where the
scheme alone makes it so that a team has to present perfection on offense to make points
to kind of propagate the ball down the field.
When you face a Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burroughs and Sam Bengals, even in some regards, you
face the Dolphins with Tua and they can hit a perfect play or beat you with individual
matchups because they have elite players and elite burners on offense.
That's when Leslie Frazier has struggled and he's so risk averse that there's never going
to be a huge game changing play in the favor of the defense because he's not dialing anything
like that up.
He plays too afraid to make that call and I don't think that you're going to see it
with Sean McDermott, which means I think Bills fans need to prepare for a reality where we
might see the Buffalo Bills get dunked on over the top a few times.
We might see some additional big plays broken in the run game because people are out of
position because he'll be trying to play the edges and leverage over the top pressure and
exotic blitz packages a little bit more than we've seen in the past.
I think it's probably the kind of year, if I'm going to just grab my crystal ball and
prognosticate here, this is the kind of year where the Buffalo Bills defense drops to like
13th or 14th in the rankings in terms of yards and points, but maybe has way more sacks and
way more interceptions than Frazier defense has produced in the past few years.
I would be comfortable with that trade off because those sacks and interceptions, we've
seen it with Steve Spagnola defense for years.
That dude now is what?
He's been ranked four times and I saw a stat the other day that was mind boggling to me.
He's never had a top 10 defense.
He's never coached a top 10 ranked defense.
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that that is necessarily true either.
I saw it on a PFF feed.
So it might have been via there, right?
But that dude has been ranked four times and he's given up points in a lot of those Super
Bowls.
He's given up points in a lot of playoff games.
Everyone points to the great scheming is rightfully so.
They should when he shut down the New England Patriots twice with that vaunted pass rush
in for the New York Giants.
This is not a dude who has put up, I think, defensive schemes that have produced to the
consistency that Frazier has.
I would also argue that maybe outside of his time with the Giants, Spagnola has necessarily
not had the elite pieces and draft capital and assets that Frazier had in Buffalo to
build those things, which is a topic for another time as well.
But ultimately, what I'm getting at is you can win with those types of defenses in the
NFL.
Very few teams have both good offenses and good defenses rolling with them at the same
time.
There are usually teams that there needs to be a tradeoff because of where you have to
invest your draft capital, where you have to invest your salary cap, where you've got
to make all of these key personnel decisions.
In those moments, scheme can really help you not just throughout the course of the season
being consistent, but really in some of those bigger moments where this Buffalo Bills defense
has failed.
We just came off of a Super Bowl, which was an epic Super Bowl game, by the way.
We didn't get a chance to necessarily break it down because it was heartbreaking for us.
But it was an epic Super Bowl game where both teams literally just picked their poison.
What they were doing on defense, both Philly and Kansas City, is just playing to have the
ball last.
Make sure that you have the ball last with your elite QB with the ball in his hands at
the end of the game because they knew it was going to be close.
KC played a bunch of base defense in that game.
They sold out to stop the run.
But you saw, as you mentioned, what could happen with the Bills.
They gave up a ton of plays over the top, but they came together at the key moments,
big moments in the game with some pretty exotic stuff to shut down the Eagles and make sure
that Patrick Mahomes had the ball at the right time.
I will take that this season with the Buffalo Bills.
I will take making sure that if it's going to be a close game that Josh has the ball
in his hands at the end of the game every time.
As long as this Bills defense starts to get some of those bigger stops that they have
lacked the ability to get in the postseason over these past few seasons, I am good with
whatever McDermott is going to scheme up.
I'm good with going from third in defensive efficiency down to 13th if that means we're
going to play big in big moments, which we haven't.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
That's really what I'm looking at and I'm sort of hopeful for.
I'll accept the Bills losing two games by more than two scores because the top gets
taken off the defense because they have a safety blitz dial up.
I'm okay with those couple of losses if in the playoffs Matt Milano is put in a position
where he can get a sack strap strip fung bull and we recover it for a touchdown.
Something big that's not currently there because we're playing too high shell with all of the
passing lanes underneath cluttered and there's no pressure because our front four are being
primed by five down linemen and a running back.
I am all about playing those margins and taking some chances and getting a little bit more
exotic and seeing what Taren Johnson as a blitzer, what Christian Benford can do in
a special package.
Maybe we can see what the heck Terrell Bernard is worth as a player.
There are some options on this defense that I don't think we have really taken advantage
of and as an aside and we'll get to this when we talk about free agency, seeing how the
Bears and I know you want to talk about this, seeing how the Bears used Tremaine Edmonds
in their defense.
It's going to be fascinating.
Yeah, it's going to be fascinating.
Because I have a hunch.
That dude is used.
Yeah, so but yeah, that's the kind of thing I'm thinking about is not just about stacking
a defense with talent and then having them all play in pre-rent roles the whole game
and hoping that somebody on the front four can overcome their one-on-one matchup to get
a sack.
That's not the strategy I think we're going to see enacted with McDermott calling the
individual plays.
I think we're going to see more in-depth blitzing.
I think we're going to see something I've loved about the McDermott defense that we
saw in his first two years, but since Frazier has been the voice in the room for defense
we haven't seen as much is sugaring the A-gap.
You have four down linemen and then you stuff both of your inside middle linebacker and
your outside linebacker on either side of the center's face mask before the snap of
the ball.
That is like, it's a nightmare.
At a very modest amateur level I played offensive line.
There is nothing more terrifying than seeing people that you know are much faster than
you lined up, stand up directly over your face because you're like, oh shit, after this
ball is snapped I have many decisions and movements to make or I'm the reason this play
gets blown up.
That strategy was used so often in McDermott's defense in Carolina and it was used sparingly
when McDermott and Frazier were together and very little in the last couple years and I'm
not sure why and I hope to see it come back because I think there's a value in it and
sure you can get caught out of position a little bit, but it also can really wreak havoc
with the blocking scheme and end up freeing one of those edge rushers or freeing a defensive
tackle because there's a little bit of more mayhem and confusion on the inside.
I have a hot take for you to close this out and you can tell me if I'm right or wrong
here.
Sean McDermott is the best defensive coordinator in the AFC East right now.
So you got Belichick in New England.
You've got Fangio, right?
And then Asala is not calling plays.
Who's calling plays for who's calling plays for?
I mean, he's involved with that scheme.
Yeah, I don't remember who the DC is in the Jets, but I'm gonna look it up right now.
You look that up and I'll riff on it for a second.
So I think it's hard for me to give Sean McDermott sharing duties between head coach and DC the
edge over Vic Fangio because I think Fangio is an excellent DC.
But I would say it's probably they're probably a 1A 1B.
That'd be my yeah.
Okay, that's good.
And it's Jeff Ulbrich heading into his second season with the New Jersey Jets, which tells
you right there that he wouldn't qualify for best because we didn't even know who he was.
It's good.
I'm so I'm so and we'll talk about this.
I'm sure when we get into some of the mock draft stuff and some of the the divisional
preview for the season, I'm fascinated to see what happens with Fangio because he was
all over that Philly scheme, his fingerprints were all over it in that Super Bowl against
Patrick Mahomes.
And it was a lot of light boxes.
It was a lot of drop guys into coverage.
And Mahomes and the way he has matured just absolutely picked that defense apart, took
what was given to him.
And that's a team that didn't make mistakes.
I'm not saying we're at a sea change in the NFL right now.
But this is now like the third or fourth year that we're going in, where the league these
league's offenses have seen two high shells, they've seen light boxes.
And eventually someone is going to say and it could be Belichick because he still wants
to run these two tight end these two tight end looks.
But someone's eventually going to say, man, if we only got four or five guys in the box,
why aren't we trying to run the ball a little bit more in early downs, right with some efficiency.
So I'm not saying that that that fan Joe's a bad hire, I think is a genius hire, and
he's going to do great things with that personnel.
But I think a Frazier defense and a Fangio defense, when you're immediately starting
at a deficit of the key of your defense is to rush for against five Oregon six, and try
to win that matchup and rely on your secondary to hold up in coverage enough against some
of these elite playmakers that are in the AFC East.
I think it's going to be an adjustment for Miami.
He's a he's a huge step up.
Don't get me wrong in coaching and Miami might be the best coach team out there.
But it'll be interesting to see.
It'll be interesting to see if Fangio does make any adjustments.
I mean, I think this is why they signed David Long in Miami, because that dude, if he can
stay healthy, maybe the best or one of the best run run stopping linebackers in the league
sneaky good signing by Miami.
So that tells me though that they're going to play with a lot of light boxes.
And we just signed Damian Harris, we still have James Cook.
We've got Naheem Hines, we've invested in a lot of beef along the offensive line.
I'm not saying we're taking Hall.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, and then and then Belichick just wants to run the ball
because he's got Mac Jones.
He's bringing a knife to a gunfight.
So he just wants to run the ball.
So it's so yeah, so I'm with you.
I think they're one and one and that's no disrespect to Belichick, but there's just
something that seems I'll be interested to see how the Fangio defense fares.
Well, and I also also think that, you know, one and one is it's it's disrespectful to
Belichick a little bit.
But I think that the disrespect for Belichick comes from the fact that when he's playing
within the scope of the rules and not cheating and he doesn't have Tom Brady stretching the
leads for every play, every team he's playing against.
Right.
He has a pretty vanilla approach to defense and the Bills have exploited it more than
anybody.
Oh, yeah.
Over the past three years to the to the juncture where like, you know, Patriots fans, I hope
they are feeling this way or feeling a little bit like Bills fans over the drought era when
you're just like it's presumed that every time you match up with those guys, they're
going to crush you because they're just you can't stop their defense, their offense at
all. And that's and that's something to be said, because I think that Belichick is this
brilliant defensive mind.
But he I think that he is limited as a general manager.
And that's that sets him back a little bit.
I think that he because he's the GM and the coach and in a lot of ways, the DC a lot of
oftentimes, I think he you know, his failure to fill young talent on that team is a great
reason why he's not, you know, not a one or one see.
Yeah, I'd go with that.
I'd go with that for sure.
So interesting to see what happens.
The Bills also made some additions to the coaching staff as well, bringing in Al Holcomb,
who was the interim defensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers.
He was calling plays when Steve Wilkes took on the interim head coach role there.
A lot of guys like Holcomb.
He's in his 50s.
He's considered one of the bright young defensive minds in the league, very likely to challenge
in the future for DC positions, maybe in Buffalo, Frazier doesn't return, you know, and then
we got a we got a guy like Bobby Babich on the coaching staff as well, who is highly
regarded around the league is like a budding defensive savant, like a budding defensive
genius.
So it's gonna be interesting to see not just what McDermott does from a play calling perspective,
but who's working with these position groups?
Who is he leaning on in these positional group meetings?
Who's coaching that actually coaching the defensive side of the ball and practice and
things like that?
Because you know, McDermott is going to scheme, he's going to work with the staff on that.
He's going to implement the play packages, he's going to do the play calling.
But as you mentioned, as head coach, he's got other responsibilities, he's got to attend
to.
So it'll be interesting to see, especially in camp, is it Holcomb?
Is it Babich?
Is that a combination of both?
Like who is going to be the McDermott brain trust that he elevates now that he is taking
on these play calling responsibilities?
And who are the people he's going to delegate responsibility to?
Because that I think in and of itself will lend us some clues and how some of this defense
defensive personnel is going to be deployed.
I think it's also worthy to mention Joe Dana, who they picked up from Houston.
Houston was a terrible and they replaced Jim Salgado, who sort of was unceremoniously fired.
And I think that Jim Salgado was, I believe, unceremoniously fired mostly because the young
safeties on the team, when Hyde and Poirier each went down with injuries, did not look
prepared for the task.
And I feel like they blamed it, probably 50% on the players and 50% on Salgado for not
getting them ready.
Meanwhile, Joe Dana, the sinking ship that was the Houston Texans, was able to help coach
a secondary group that gave up the fewest passing touchdowns, tie with the Jets, and
was top 10 in passing yards overall.
So he seemed to have been a good addition and we'll see how he is.
I guess fifth fewest yards, ninth fewest passing TDs in the year prior.
So Joe Dana might be cool, probably not going to be part of that brain trust that you're
talking about though, but likely will be an improvement to the position groups in the
back end.
Any other, I mean, Chad Hall left the wide receivers coach.
I'm not sure why.
That was a kind of peculiar one.
Yeah, peculiar departure.
Because I think he left for the Jacksonville Jaguars wide receivers coach job.
It was a lateral move to a different team in the AFC.
So I'm not sure about that one.
Did they replace him?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
I've got their coaching staff items here pulled up right now.
Let's see if, yep, Adam Henry is the new wide receivers coach.
Okay.
I think I read about him.
He's got a little bit of a, he's got a storied college career, but has not.
Oh yeah.
He coached OBJ at LSU.
Yeah.
Yep.
So we'll see.
We'll see how it goes.
There's some changes.
There's some, I'm curious about it, but I think at the very core, what all Bill's fans should
be considering is we're going to probably see a different defensive attack.
And that's exciting.
That's what we asked for.
Yep.
That's what everyone asked for.
And maybe there's an element of be careful what you wish for, but Bill's fans, Bill's
mafia, you asked for that.
Yeah.
I don't want to hear anybody in week four when we give up a couple long passing touchdowns
while McDermott has a really saucy blitz dialed up.
I don't want to hear, I wish Frazier was back.
He would never have let this happen.
I know you sons of bitches, you asked for this.
That's right.
It's happening.
Just accept it.
So yeah, so those are the major changes.
I think that the real core of the story though, before I got off on the tangent is that McDermott's
going to be calling plays.
The defense is going to look a little different.
They have some different bodies in the room in terms of position coaches and assistants
there.
And on offense, we have year two Dorse and we have a new wide receivers coach.
And I think that everybody in Bill's mafia that I talked to and myself included has the
same opinion, which is, I don't care about who's calling plays.
Can we please just have a meaningful offensive line that's capable of protecting Josh Allen
for more than three seconds on a critical third down play.
That's all I want.
Well, and you know, this feels to me like a good transition to talk about free agency
because the Buffalo Bills did address interior offensive line in particular in free agency,
signing some depth pieces, signing a very probable starter in Conor McGovern.
And it is all bookended by the end of season press conference.
And then most recently at the owners meetings where Brandon Bean at first, after the season
was like alluding to the need to protect Josh, but Josh also protect himself at the owners
meetings, he was basically begging Josh to change his running style.
And I think that's fine.
But I also think then you need to give Josh an excuse to not run for his life on every
play and fix the offensive line and invest some premium draft capital in that line.
Now what I will say that I liked about free agency is that we didn't go for the worn over
veterans on like maybe their last hurrah type of contract like we did with Sappho last year.
Bean actually invested in some younger guys in their mid 20s that still have some upside
and then maybe another short contract in them if they outplay the terms of their current
deals.
So I did like what Bean did here with the offensive line.
But JJ, since this is your bread and butter, this is where you butter your bread, so to
speak, the offensive line play.
Do you want to kick us off with a little chat about Conor McGovern, probably the marquee
offensive line signing for the Bills this offseason?
Well, I mean, if you're going to look just at the dollars and cents of it, he's the marquee
signing end of end of article for the Buffalo Bills this period.
The bills, the bills, I put Poe, I put Poe up there.
I think Poe's the marquee signing.
But I don't think he made more money than Conor McGovern.
Actually, I think you're right.
So the deal Poe came back on was crazy.
So I think that, you know, we'll flip over to defense in a second, talk about the Poe
deal and rap and stuff like that.
But all pro Poe can't wait to talk about that.
So yeah, but on the but Conor McGovern, it's interesting because I've watched a couple
of his games.
He is pretty tenacious with with his anchor in pass protection.
He is not great in run blocking.
He tends to get kind of lost in the wash a little bit when he's when he's out in space.
He is an athlete.
I think he matches what we've expected to see from the Buffalo Bills when they're looking
for an offensive alignment, is they're going to be pretty high on the relative athletic
score.
And he is.
He and David Edwards both are pretty solid in that regard.
I mean, I for one just love the fact that, you know, they're 20, 25 and 26 respectively,
the two guards that they signed, which is a departure from the Bobby hearts and the,
you know, Roger Stafford's and things like that, that the bills have been trying to get
by with.
It's nice to get somebody developmental and younger in their career who we're not trying
to capture the what was we're trying to build for what could be.
And so that's exciting.
I think that Conor McGovern is an absolute upgrade at either guard spot in past protection.
And that is amazing because more than it's interesting.
So there's two different, you know, of course, there's two different facets of offensive
blocking and surrounding run blocking and pass blocking.
But when you talk about how much one individual effort can make a difference in pass blocking
or run blocking, run blocking is the place for that.
That's where you can see Spencer Brown or Mitch Morse or Deon Dawkins wash like four
guys out of a play because their body position is perfect and they're on the move and they're
pushing somebody and they fall into somebody else and that sort of thing.
Pass blocking is way more of the team sport and way more might be an exaggeration, but
pass blocking is about having that kind of preternatural sense to know where the gaps
are too wide and where they're too tight between you and the guy next to you without actually
talking to or making eye contact with them or seeing what they're doing with their block.
You just sort of feel.
You feel where you are in space, where they are, where your vulnerabilities are.
And then it's all about like quick hands, quick body position.
That's something that I think Connor McGovern really has going for him is, like I said,
he's got a great anchor.
He tends to get bull rushed off the off the snap by much bigger, much more talented defensive
tackles like, you know, an Aaron Donald, for instance, is probably going to blow him up
without help on the air and blow up everybody.
But I get what you're saying.
Right.
We got to see Bradley Chubb.
We got to see Christian Wilkins.
We got to see all of these.
Yeah, I get it.
I will tell the thing that I'll say about Connor McGovern that I like.
He's going to get he's going to get punched in the mouth with that initial pop by any
of those like high talent defensive tackles, but he's not going to be an immediate win
like Roger Saffold was or like Ryan Bates has been on occasion.
Ryan Bates had a better year than I think I gave him credit for during the year.
He was somewhat solid.
I think he struggled because he had Spencer Brown next to him who played God awful.
Similarly, I think that Dawkins and Morris both seem seem to have, you know, the talk
as they had a down year.
I think they were trying to cover up for Saffold so much that, you know, they of course weren't
able to play to their best because he was an absolute liability.
And that's not Connor McGovern.
I think he's a valuable to above average offensive starter on the line in pass protection and
an average to below average run blocker.
He was probably the fifth best starter on that Dallas Cowboys offensive line.
I would argue that he is probably the second best offensive lineman on the Buffalo Bills.
Right.
I mean, listen, I I like Dawkins.
I feel like Dawkins is maybe one or two seasons away from shifting over to guard himself.
Yeah.
I just don't know how much how much pop off the edge he has anymore.
You know, being has been defiant about Spencer Brown.
It makes me think one of two things either like we're all wrong about Spencer Brown and
the Bills and their player development guys just are like, this is the year he's going
to pop.
Right.
And just be patient and you guys are all going to eat shit when it's done.
Yeah.
Or I think he was probably more hurt than was reported during the course of the season.
He was probably playing through some significant injuries.
I'm going to venture I guess it might be a combination of both because we know he had
the back injury to start the season.
But that the depth of the Buffalo Bills offensive line or the lack thereof was just exposed
would felt like game after game after game as a result of injuries.
The injury bug that bit that team.
I know it hit us in the secondary but it hits in the offensive line last season about as
big as anywhere else.
And the depth of that line or the lack thereof being what it was, Brown maybe felt like he
had to go out there and play through health circumstances that normally he wouldn't.
Stuff that wouldn't get him necessarily on injured reserve but maybe would make him a
healthy scratch for a game or two if things were a little bit better along that line.
I felt the same way about Poirier truth be told.
I think Poirier played through just a ton of injuries last year when normally he wouldn't
because of the lack of depth around him.
So I mean maybe it's that.
I don't know.
But being and McDermott both seem to be ride or dies right now with Spencer Brown.
And for me I wouldn't hesitate to draft a rookie with a premium pick in the first three
rounds to compete with that dude.
Because at the end of the day pride is one thing results are another.
You cannot have your quarter of a billion dollar quarterback getting crushed off the
right edge and getting chased out of the pocket like he was last season.
So it's interesting.
It's interesting.
And I think Morris is still good.
Like Morris is probably still their best offensive lineman.
But yeah.
Well I can't like I have this feeling about Deon Dawkins.
I know Deon Dawkins is a fan favorite and maybe I'm going to make some enemies here.
But I Deon Dawkins the way Deon Dawkins plays the way he interviews and the way he like
presents himself I just keep thinking he is a person who was a hungry hungry tackle got
that bag and has like slacked on his work a little bit like he's immeasurably talented.
I don't think that's right.
He's immeasurably talented.
He can without without maximum effort.
He's above average as a left tackle in this league.
And that's where we live right now is less than maximum effort from our massively paid
left tackle Deon Dawkins who's a character.
And I love the guy as a person but I feel like he doesn't work as hard as he did before
he got that huge contract.
And it shows or he's or he's you know he's he's been an Ironman mostly.
Covid did him a number twice.
And so you know I want to like cast aspersions on work ethic if it's also just that he's
still like working his way back.
I know that that can be a thing with long Covid symptoms.
And so you know I hope to see Deon Dawkins rejuvenate my my belief in him this year.
And I think that and it's always so tough because I think Deon Dawkins has looked bad
when he's had bad guards next to him and has looked so much better when he has good guards.
And again I think it's because you cannot give up your inside gap and he's so worried
about it that he gets beat around the edge because you know the pressure rate rate inside
the center's you know left shoulder is much more dangerous to Josh Allen than Deon Dawkins
given somebody a half half-ass shelf to the outside and them looping around.
So yeah.
Yeah.
You're bolstering my argument for why Conor McGovern is already our second best starter
in the offensive line.
But just for a moment on Spencer Brown you're right they're so bullish on him like making
the jump and being a quality starter.
I mean it's like they're watching different fucking games.
Yeah.
It's it's it's pretty pronounced.
It's yeah it's I don't understand what they see that I'm not seeing unless unless it is
an injury that we don't realize like you had said you know.
Yeah.
Was borderline keeping him putting him on IR for the rest of the season but they had
such terrible choices behind him that you know that he just stayed and was able to gut
it out.
We'll see I think this is the year though I think that if you have a healthy Ryan Bates
David Edwards and Conor McGovern and one of the three of them is next to Spencer Brown
he won't and he's healthy and he doesn't have another surgery or anything and he makes the
whole way through training camp you know healthy.
There's no more excuses.
You've removed all the variables at that point and that's the make or break here and I'm
with you like I people listening won't won't have seen it but the whole time you're talking
about bringing in a young tackle I was just nodding my head enthusiastically like I was
at a metal show because we need that.
That is what is needed for this bill's offensive line more than anything is an infusion of
high end like young talent on rookie contracts.
We can't keep paying you know Conor McGovern who's likely a B to C tier starter in the
league.
How dare you disparage a number two offensive lineman like that.
Oh I will never take it back because the B to C starter is the number two best offensive
lineman on this.
This is all right.
So that for it and you're just making my point for me that we need young cheap talent from
the draft from the top three rounds of the draft at some point one of them at least just
one tackle slash guard in the top three rounds would just make my day and I know it's not
a great draft after the first 20 for elite you know offensive line talent but there's
got to be somebody who's an at least above average starter in those middle rounds.
Yeah I mean and we'll talk about this when we get into the draft but drafting your if
it's not a good if it's not going to be a Spencer Brown replacement then you at least
got to start thinking about Dawkins because it was interesting I thought that they didn't
restructure or extend Dawkins because he's only got a couple of years left on his deal
at this point.
You know and you don't want to restructure all of your big contracts all at once.
They did digs so that you know now digs dead cap hit is like the GDP of Latvia.
I think if we try to get rid of him so you don't want to kick all your money down the
road you want to have some bigger contracts to restructure and stagger that and Bean's
been a genius at that but I did find it interesting they didn't they didn't dip into that well
with Dawkins or decide to extend him so it's it'll be it's going to be interesting to see
what happens next offseason with with Dawkins and the salary cap situation that we're looking
at but well but yeah go ahead.
You want to know nothing else about Dawkins in the line but I do want to you know maybe
it's this point in time where we just hit very quickly just for the you know the literal
cost of doing business all the restructures that the bills did go you know take take because
they came into free agency before we kind of set you know talk about for agency we set
the stage the bills came in to free agency about 22 or 24 million dollars over the sets
the NFL salary cap they needed to get that down in early March and they did so by restructuring
Josh Allen kicking the can down the road turning some of his guaranteed money into bonus and
they saved 21.14 million and then they told Naeem Hines that he was going to get cut unless
he took a pay cut and his reason one yes he took one thankfully his restructures 1.3 I
really like him as a kick returner I think he offers something on offense I'd like to
see another year with him in the system they went ahead like you mentioned and changed
Stefan Diggs contract a little bit to give to give themselves 5.4 million but again that
makes his dead cap massive Von Miller same they made sure that he's going to be there
for you know all three of his three guaranteed years and we'll have more dead cap if they
if they cut him at that point and save 10.6 Tim Settle similar thing to Naeem Hines took
a pay cut to stay they said we're going to cut you if you don't you know take it so they
saved a chip of 600 grand and then Matt Milano this one I think is very nice they did a two
year extension essentially they didn't add any actual years to the contract as it was
written he had two years of void years on his contract and they turned those void years
instead of make believe years into real years real years right and so they were able to
like provide him some secure financial security and save some cap room on his you know 2023
salary earnings by paying him up front and making him last more you know he's on the
roster longer at this point which I think is great I think that they saw the writing
on the wall that Tremaine Edmonds was going to end up getting the bag and walking and
they wanted to keep at least one half of their great linebacker duo in place.
Yep and I like that as well I thought that was a I thought it was a solid move by the
bills I mean it Milano is our Bobby Boucher I've said it a thousand times on this podcast
but that dude is just a heat seeking missile in and around the ball and he he's had some
injuries but but nothing that would preclude us I think from thinking that he is going
to remain relatively healthy through the end of this contract and that's always the thing
that you want to keep in mind when you extend guys or when you when you kick money down
the road is are you going to be taking on the full financial burden of a lot of these
kicked contracts all of these restructured deals when that player is no longer productive
that's why I found it very interesting they didn't dip into that well with with Dawkins
or talk about an extension with Dawkins because I don't know that they necessarily feel confident
right now that Dawkins is going to be productive through the end of a two-year extension or
that he's going to be worth the money at kicking some of his salary down the road a little
bit I think and we'll talk about this when we talk about season storylines I think Dawkins
is going to be a fascinating storyline to watch heading into the season and not just
how he plays but how the organization is reacting to to what they see with him even if he has
a improved year if it's not a career year it's not looking like it was what what he
was producing at a high level yeah I think the draft is going to tell you a lot about
what they think more about Dawkins than what they think about Brown because obviously they
think Brown is like freaking the next great tackle in this league so if they do go tackle
in the first three rounds I think it tells you where they think Dawkins is at this stage
in his career for sure well and especially if that tackle has a you know really fast
feet and is more athletic and is more like the the prototype left tackle for a right-handed
quarterback then yeah I think that that might be oh he's just going to be our swing tackle
Dawkins is hitting the bricks after two years or a year yep Matt Bergeron right down the
road at SU man I want that dude I want that guy give me that guy all right I don't want
to talk draft yet because we got more free agency to talk so JJ offensive line was a
big big focal point for Bills fans ire at the end of the season as was the wide receiver
room so Stefan Diggs had another great year massive target share we talked about that
throughout the course of the season just the amount of targets that digs was getting in
comparison to the season prior to that we thought Mackenzie would flash a little bit
more he didn't Gabe Davis after his 4 TD game in the 13 second game against Kansas City
thought he was gonna have a breakout season he ended up being kind of a bust all the way
around maybe the most overdrafted person in fantasy football to start the season last
year and all of those owners were were quite frankly devastated with his lack of output
throughout the course of the year so wide receiver room is something the Bills knew
they needed to address but JJ this was a week this was a very weak wide receiver free agent
market when it came to looking for a solid number two opposite of digs opposite of our
X Davis did not prove that he could be a snap to snap down to down guy in that role there
just wasn't a lot of guys on the free agent market so the Bills do what they do they tended
to their depth and they gave themselves some some gadgety maybe speedy options in the slot
and again went young last year we had the corpses of Cole Beasley and John Brown back
in a wide receiver room after they had basically been cast off by other teams in the league
again this time around and this is what I like what I'm seeing from being actually signing
some younger guys in their early to mid 20s that still have some upside potentially beyond
this deal so the two two marquee guys that the Bills brought in here to add depth to
the wide receiver room were Deontah Hardy and Trent Sherfield or Sherfeld the guy who
we know from the Miami Dolphins our our divisional rival both have special teams chops a lot
of people are are thinking that Hardy is gonna get some potential return opportunities which
he's been an all-pro punt returner despite the fact of having nine muff punts throughout
the course of his career but I think he's gonna be a super interesting one and then
of course Sherfeld is you know he's a special teams maven with a lot of speed and JJ those
are two things that I think these guys have in common they're young they're fast and I'll
add a third is that they can catch the ball which was another problem for this Bills wide
receiver room even with digs last year digs had his highest drop rate of his career last
year in a Bills uniform so these are a couple of sure-handed guys Hardy despite the punt
muffs is very sure-handed very sure-handed when running routes what do you think of these
two sidings obviously I think I think there's more work to be done in this room because
we still need a true number two beyond digs but what do you think of the options the Bills
have added to offense here yeah I mean I will always take a young fast receiver over a fast
old receiver who hasn't been productive like John Brown or a small not fast no longer productive
receiver like Cole Beasley like I like those guys I like those guys as they had been in
their Bills career but they have passed that barrier they've passed that wall into you
know they no longer have the same kind of pop they can no longer offer the same kind
of competitiveness and so I really like these two sidings I think they're good depth signs
I agree with you that I think it's pretty critical that this this Bills team whether
it's a draft day trade for DHOP or you know somebody in the top few rounds we can talk
draft a lot more but I have this like strong fear that the top three picks in the Bills
draft are all defensive players and there's been a couple of mucks yeah like that post
and we don't we don't get a tackle slash guard or a new you know left tackle error parent
or swing tackle or we don't get a wide receiver or tight end in the first few rounds like
I'd be really disappointed because I do think that you're right they need a bonafide number
two receiver who really threatens you know the defense a la how Hill and Waddle are in
Miami and I thought it was interesting that a lot of Miami fans were really upset to have
sure field walk because when defenses started planning to take away Hill and Waddle surefield
was eating and he was doing he was looking good for sure he's a fast player he's got
good hands like you mentioned he in the first Bills meeting was the reason that they had
the the butt punt oh yep and so he's a personal protector and I blame the punter more than
than him he's in tight spaces back there but but yeah I mean I like that guy he was the
best blocking wide receiver on their entire team and so I like to see him bring that to
the bills and I think it's probable that we let did they already let Kumero walk oh yeah
they let Kumero walk he's a future he's a future New Jersey jet going to join his boy
a rod yes yeah so with Kumero walking they really have they've upgraded his position
because surefield offers all the same stuff Kumero did on special teams but plus he is
as good if not better of a run blocker and he can be a threat in the passing game can
play real meaningful snaps and that I like Kumero just fine but Kumero's issue was he
was not a separator I think surefield has separation ability a little bit more because
he's way more of an athlete yes just and I like what the Bills are going for with that
and I agree I want to talk drafts so bad next week I can't wait because there's you know
there's mixed opinions about this wide receiver class and there's not a lot of big guys there's
a lot of small gadgety guys so there's not a lot of big traditional what guys that you
would think like the who do Jones exactly exactly there's a you know Quentin Johnson
from TCU is probably the closest thing we got to that 80 Perry might be in striking
distance for the Bills out of Wake Forest he's another big solid route want runner bring
some size to the table but man there are some really tiny fast dudes in here with really
good hands that I would love to see in this offense so it but I definitely think that
love the additions of Hardy and surefield to the mix here but I don't think it precludes
the Bills drafting to either a guy that's got outside inside versatility like you know
I like Khalil Shakir a ton we talked about Shakir a lot last season we both had a chance
to see Shakir live in a couple of games and his ability to get quick separation he's a
cleaner out runner has to work on his his you know point of catch but was a yak master
for the Bills last season comparative to the other guys in that room we both like Shakir
but the reality is like Shakir is the fifth round pick there's no reason why the Bills
couldn't bring a get bring in a guy like Jordan Addison with outside inside versatility and
do some fun things with Shakir and with Addison or another wide receiver edition I would like
to see Gabe Davis potentially if they can get another bona fide number two in this draft
I'd love to see Gabe Davis play some power slot a la Keem Hex who is a guy who you and
I talked about was drafted by the Giants I would love to see him in some of those like
running situations out there in a power slot situation just pasting guys up the middle
because Davis is a really good run blocker and it would other and it would give the Bills
I think a little bit of deception in their run packages that they just didn't have this
year they played a bunch of jumbo sets they played a bunch of heavy sets to run the ball
because it's the only way they could get some push if you've got you could run feasibly
some really creative stuff with both Sheerfield and Davis playing some sort of quirky power
slot role in a three wide receiver set that you could actually run effectively out there's
a dude dude there's some cool options that the Bills have if they can if they can just
get one more piece so that wide receiver room like a like a Jalen Hyatt out of Tennessee
who is just voice scripts for hands rockets on his feet that dude can run he can catch
and you've got to respect his ability to take the top off of a defense so that there is
there like dude they're one one wide receiver away from this room being really really special
and really dangerous and Jalen Hyatt is awesome but you got to spend 27 if you want Jalen
Hyatt you maybe yeah I mean so it's interesting well we're going to talk about this in the
draft right but Hyatt because he didn't run a sub four four four fourty people are like
well is he is he slow now no watch that gate watch that dude's tape he plays so freaking
fast that kid's ridiculous he's got to polish the route running a little bit but that's
a dude Josh is never going to out throw I just I want to talk about the draft we got
to get the defensive side of the ball because we're still still talking free agency yeah
and I'll finish I'll finish the offensive side of free agency Deontay Hardy many people
might know him if you like play Madden or pay attention to the league or you know offense
football he used to be Deontay Harris he actually took his his adopted father's his stepfather's
name stepdad's name yeah and changed his name which I you know super nice character move
really confusing to a lot of people but um he he looked excellent two years ago last
year was shortened by injury and so I'm really hoping that he comes back super healthy and
can turn things on because he's as quick as lightning has really good hands and is one
of the rare small guys who can also be a vertical threat and so I really like that and then
Damien Harris the running back from New England who you know had that 70 yard touchdown or
whatever in the wind game that the Bills lost has been beating up on the Bills for a few
years now as a powerful between the tackles runner he is he's joined the Bills on a one
year 1.7 dollar or seven million dollar minimum vet deal which is excellent money for that
you know that kind of value so we're looking forward to him and then finally Kyle Allen
on the offensive side replaced the sorry I'm blanking on Case Keenum Kyle Allen Josh Allen's
best friend for a long time now in terms of quarterback offseason hanging out he joined
the the Bills as their backup QB for one year 1.2 million dollar you know like a minimums
deal again I think that's enough to caddy for Josh yeah exactly he is he's also his
caddy when Josh is at Masters tournaments and things like that and pro-ams so Kyle Allen
it's a fine choice I think that you know really it's a it's a nod to the fact that the season
is lost if we lose Josh Allen so and they just probably are like well you got the same
jersey so maybe they just won't know and just we'll stick you out there and we'll get by
on looks alone I hear Aaron Rodgers is available yeah if that happens so yeah speaking of you
know those are the major offensive signings Bills have not signed any defensive talent
from another team other than Taylor Rapp who is a safety from the Los Angeles Rams won
a Super Bowl had a down year last year but was able to you know was able to come over
to the Bills and I think that's a surprising signing because he actually did not sign for
very much money at all and was largely seen as like a middle to upper middle tier starting
safety in the league when he entered free agency and so you know most of the bills work
on defense has been re signings and we can talk about those but Taylor Rapp was the only
one they got from outside the building and I'm fairly excited I'm really excited about
that one but where do you want to start defense well I mean we've already alluded to Jordan
Poir right but I think to finish the conversation on rap being that he is the only the only
new new addition to this defense it tells you everything that you like they lost Jack
Johnson in free agency because he just he kid didn't pan out right I think he went to
Las Vegas he's on a one year deal with the Raiders or something like that they needed
to add depth at safety they've got two great safeties employer and hide hide is coming
off spinal fusion surgery and Poir is coming off his most injured season so they needed
a reliable veteran presence to serve as a depth option also not knowing whether or not
Damar Hamlin will be cleared to play at the start of the season as well and we all know
Hamlin's incredible story and and the tragedy and then the triumph that came from that so
they needed to add some reliability we talk about this all the time the ability to raise
the floor with your depth options right you it's nice if you can find a high ceiling guy
on there sometimes but ultimately with your depth you're just raising the floor and rap
really does raise the floor and I think if Poir and hide stay healthy he gives McDermott
some really interesting options in dime sets so like those third and six third and seven
maybe some clear the really clear passing downs where the Bills are just going to be
tempted to drop everybody into coverage as they typically do 15 yards off the ball now
all of a sudden you see a guy like Taylor rap who is okay in coverage he's average in
coverage but he's really good at attacking the line of scrimmage you see him come off
an exotic dime blitz package every now and then he gives you a little bit of speed a
little bit of pop off the edge I could see McDermott using him as a little bit of a chess
piece and some of those lighter defensive sets when it's an obvious passing down so
I think I think we could see rap play some meaningful snaps not as a starter barring
injury but I think we could see him really used and prioritized and get some specific
sub packages into the game plan for himself so I like rap and that's a dude who again
if he proves himself I could see them signing again to another deal beyond the season this
is kind of an earn it contract for rap so he's going to get an opportunity to play and
and we're going to see what he can bring to the table but yeah I'm excited for those those
depth additions there and then of course Jordan Poir all pro po the marquee defensive signing
for this team resigning of this team and it was interesting how the bottom fell out of
the safety market after Jesse Bates like I saw lots of projections on like over the cap
and spot track and all this stuff about what rap might get what Poir might get Poir was
out there looking for 11 million a year I think I saw rap as high as like seven or eight
million a year and they ended up signing both of those guys for like a combined seven million
guaranteed right so it was interesting how that worked out but all pro po back in the
building the Bills 13 and one last season when Poir played again coming off his most
injury riddled season it looked like he was just strapping it up as much as he could knowing
the team needed him out there but I'm very excited to see Poir after a full seat a full
off season of rest and healing hide hopefully coming back to his prime form I am looking
forward to seeing the best safety tandem in the league potentially returned returned to
their their stomping grounds at Highmark Stadium this season so the poor signing was was fortuitous
for us because you and I both thought he was gone yeah and he was lobbying to go to Miami
to play opposite Jevon Holland he just wanted to play in warm weather he loves Florida he
lives there and do not have state income tax and no state income tax that was his tweet
New York state income tax still sucks but I'm back baby so yeah so it's great to have
Po back in the building the Bills outside of Edmonds JJ are and depending on what they
do with Ed Oliver they're gonna return 10 of 11 defensive starters to the unit this
season you know only one they lost and it's a notable loss and probably the the only other
free agent bit worth talking about the loss of Tremaine Edmonds signing a Mac Daddy deal
with the Chicago Bears hold on hold up you said that the like the only thing remaining
notable to talk about the Buffalo Bills extended Sam Martin the punter for three years my friend
I said defense we have not even gotten into specials yet my friend but yeah no no no
Sam we have actually dedicated for those of you that don't know another 45 minutes just
talking about Sam Martin's deal and what it means for for capital part by his directional
punting versus his average hang time and depth of snap so it's gonna be great right it's
an incentive weighted package can't wait can't wait so yeah it's we got to talk about Edmonds
right because that's the dude who he had his best he's a nice player he was a really good
player last year for the Bills people are gonna miss him as much as they talk crap they're
gonna yeah they're gonna miss him and here and they're gonna miss him once they see how
I think Chicago is gonna use him so his average annual value contract is 18 million a year
that's more than guys like Fred Warner or Ro Kwan Smith so that's not middle linebacker
stick in coverage and like swat balls money that's sack the QB money my friend and you
and I talked about this about Edmonds coming out of the draft you had this amazing analogy
use him as a sword not a shield this Chicago Bears sign multiple linebackers this season
they send the guy out of Philly I can't remember his name off the top of my head but you know
they've got a they basically signed like four guys to replace Ro Kwan Smith right but when
you're rolling out that many linebackers again another devalued position you get a guy with
Edmonds skill set with his speed with his ferocity at the line of scrimmage I think
Eber Fluss is going to choose to use Edmonds and passing situations and nickel packages
is a edge rusher which is something that you and I talked about the bills needing to do
more take advantage of that skill set that speed that ferocity and just let him run straight
into the line of scrimmage it's something that Frazier McDermott did not deploy often
with Edmonds in the lineup I think just by virtue of the contract to even Chicago to
even justify paying a linebacker that type of money they're going to need to see some
pass rush production out of him so I think Edmonds is in a great situation for him we're
going to miss him he was great for the bills but he's in a great situation in that it looks
like Chicago is actually going to use his the totality of his skill set which is what
the bills never did well it was TJ Edwards is the Philly linebacker so yeah TJ Edwards
and Tremaine Edmonds in the middle of your defense you can do far far worse than those
two holding down the center because they both played leadership roles in defenses that were
top of the top of the league defenses so I agree I think that it's probably the early
rumblings out of Chicago about Tremaine Edmonds is very much that he was cast in a role that
didn't take advantage of all of his talent and that they are looking forward to seeing
what he can do in this next iteration of his career I'm here for it you know any unless
the Chicago Bears are playing against the Bills I'm rooting for Tremaine Edmonds to
have an excellent excellent career and I could feel good about him succeeding elsewhere without
feeling bad about the Bills letting him walk because it's just the reality of the league
you cannot keep every talented player you have right with a salary cap you know in the
world of salary cap there's going to be sacrifices to make and 100% out of the time I'm going
to sacrifice paying Tremaine Edmonds to have Josh Allen on a massive contract yep absolutely
absolutely ten times out of ten you're gonna make that deal for sure so yeah so otherwise
the Buffalo Bills defense returning many of their starters from last season re-signed
Jordan Phillips as well Daquan Jones gonna be back at Oliver we'll see what happens with
that Oliver rumor has it he is on the trade block rumor also has it depending on what
websites and national outlets you read that there are some teams willing to give a day
to pick for at Oliver and take that 10.5 million cap hit off of our books which I would take
yeah I would take that in a heartbeat if you could fill that hole though yeah being again
being again though is talking about long-term extension with Oliver which is fine but again
if you're Brandon Bean then you need to draft an actual one-tech you can't put like I see
some mocks that have Brian uh Brian Brisey yeah from Clemson coming to us that dude is
like 290 soaking wet and you're not going to put that dude in the one-tech next to Oliver
you're just gonna get lit up up the middle right so you got if you're fine sign Oliver
you and I both like is his athletic skill set yeah for sure but then draft a one-tech
an actual one-tech to play next to that dude draft so many the size of Daquan Jones but
younger right that's younger than Daquan Jones right so yeah so but all of that is is draft
talk that we can get to so overall JJ I think the highlights of free agency absolutely the
defense basically getting the band back together for one more run with hopefully some creative
play calling out of Sean McDermott this season the skull round the offense add some really
nice pieces along the offensive line youth speed catching ability in the wide receiver
room for once and for the first time in a long time for the Buffalo Bills and some where
you could see and some options where you could see both McDermott as a defensive play caller
and Dorsey as a second year offensive play caller use some of these pieces for positional
creativity and I think it telegraphs their hand with what they're gonna go for in the
draft pretty clearly at this point as well I think their draft needs at this point are
pretty clear they still want to address offensive line they're going to at some point probably
address edge because word on von Miller is that he might not be back till Thanksgiving
if that given the nature of his recovery wide receiver is another one it wide receiver slash
pass catcher I would take I would take I would take a Dalton Kincaid or somebody like that
as a reliable tight end yeah but but overall if I were to sum up the Buffalo Bills free
agency roundup I would say it's exactly what being advertised no splash moves but exactly
the type of high upside moves that you would expect a team to take they've raised their
floor yet again right they've added a lot of really good depth and if one or two of
these guys they catch lightning in a bottle with it's going to be a very good year for
the Bills so again being doing what he does setting the team up for success in limiting
holes on the roster heading into the draft it was a very Brandon Bean offseason but I
will say it was less Brandon Bean than previous off seasons in terms of signing young higher
upside higher athleticism talent than he has and I think it's interesting because I wonder
if it's the trend shift that we're seeing is that this team has moved into a different
phase of its process to where they don't need veteran leaders in the room coming in via
free agency they're building their home growing them so they can bring in younger talent who
will already have that leadership and that the backbone of backbone of how it's done
to lean on without having to like really look for character guys to set the tone agreed
agreed it's a it's a testament to the culture build that McDermott and Bean have have really
put into place there it really is because you've got Hyde Poyer as the leaders on that
side of the ball Allen has grown into this role digs it listen man all that offseason
nonsense about digs getting trader not wanting to be in Buffalo that no way that dude I want
that dude at my team ten times out of ten that's the dude I want and all that stuff
like when people look oh he deleted the stuff the football stuff off of his social media
it's like that he most players do that every offseason to like rinse rinse their mouth
out from the taste of a losing season unless you're the Super Bowl winners like your banner
photo is not going to be you and a win in an unsuccessful season where you didn't become
a champion like whatever like seriously it's nothing it doesn't matter social media doesn't
mean anything when my daughter beats me in Mario Kart I delete all of her pictures off
my Instagram just to cleanse the palette a little bit and absorb the loss you've given
that reference before and every time it's troubling oh have I have I have I talked have
I talked about like getting rid of my social media for my social media when they upset
you yeah no it's it's it's a reasonable response okay you've met them they're lovely but they
also don't listen to this pod song now I'm not worried either and to call it borderline
child abuse would be an exaggeration because I don't even have kids so I don't know that's
right now if anyone here is listening and you wanted to find child abuse and let me
know if I am actually carrying that deleting photos of them from my social media and essentially
let us know protecting their like actual privacy that's all I'm doing protecting their identity
that's right that's right child services oh my gosh we are in a hole so anyway the some
of the resigning is just to kind of like again you know this is a business the business of
the pod is making sure you're aware so David Quessonberry resigns Tyler medic avich you
know linebacker depth and special teams guy resigns Tyrell Dodson who might have a play
at the starting linebacker role if they can't fill in the draft not a Jack Campbell oh my
gosh you want Jack Campbell I want Drew Saunders we're both you know true I know I like Drew
Saunders dude we need to talk I like Drew Saunders he's we just had drew a better Drew
Saunders and Tremaine Edmonds and we saw how this team used coverage guy just go for go
for the prototype right just get if you just want a coverage middle linebacker just draft
a coverage middle linebacker for the love of God well and like you know I know this is
jumping ahead but I'll take the guy who's been I'll also happily take the guy who's
been coached up by Luke Keighley that's just yes the pills on defense also resigned Dean
Jackson and Cam Lewis to no one's pleasure and again but either but they know that it's
Elam's job yeah they're good depth that's good dude that's good depth yeah that's good
depth in the secondary but we really really like I if anybody out there is hoping to see
Dane Jackson while Kyrie Elam and and Trey Day are healthy I don't I don't know what
kind of bills fan you are like we have to see Elam and Trudevius like lock down those
outside jobs with Taron Johnson in the slot and that's an excellent three pair or three
trio of CBEs to have on the front line get a healthy Christian Benford back right and
some yeah and some sub packages Taylor route or who we talked about how he could be used
in dime set yeah yeah it's a it's a fun it's a fun mix of defensive backs that the Buffalo
Bills have to play with this year for sure yeah so I mean anything else we need to talk
about free agency before we move on to next next week's draft expose Sam Martin no I'm
just playing I know I've already made that joke this pot but I am pleased I mean I'll
if I Sam Martin if you're listening welcome back buddy I'm just happy we have a reliable
professional punter in the building like that's Sam Martin jokes for you are like kids jokes
for me that's right that's right we both have our go-to bread is buttered that's right oh
good man to get back to to talk in and chat and bills bills bills team building what we
call it we just call it maddened GM mode maddened GM mode but much less maddening yes here and
it was a lot more like reasonable adult non-emotional moves which I was very proud to see it's too
late on a weekday for me to have puns but I appreciate that you do I I try I try to
bring what I can to the table like it yep so yeah so next week we'll talk draft week
after we'll do our AFC East mock draft extravaganza with all of our our featured guests our Dolphins
fans Patriots fans and Jets fans and then we'll do our draft breakdown here heading
from April into May my friend we are we are approaching football season we really are
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