WEBVTT 00:00:00.740 --> 00:00:03.319 Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread Podcast. I'm 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:06.179 your host, Dan Roberts, here for the continuing 00:00:06.179 --> 00:00:08.900 offseason tradition, a tradition unlike any other, 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:11.320 Friends of the Pod, not Friends of the Bills, 00:00:11.619 --> 00:00:15.699 NFC East Edition. We are here with Logan DeLutis, 00:00:15.779 --> 00:00:18.539 one of our newest co -hosts here, to talk about 00:00:18.539 --> 00:00:21.500 the New York Giants, their turbulent, yet productive 00:00:21.500 --> 00:00:23.780 offseason, and to chat a little bit about where 00:00:23.780 --> 00:00:25.600 he thinks the GMAT are going to head this season 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:28.420 in the wake of the firing of Brian Dayball last 00:00:28.420 --> 00:00:33.100 year. So we have brought Logan on for a for a 00:00:33.100 --> 00:00:35.240 covert operation. For those of you that listen 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:37.880 to this pod, you know that JJ is very pro football, 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:41.880 very anti baseball. Logan happens to be a massive 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:44.520 baseball fan and a Yankees fan, something him 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:46.780 and I share in common. So in reality, we're going 00:00:46.780 --> 00:00:48.399 to blow through some football talk so we can 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:50.179 get to the meat of the matter, which is why the 00:00:50.179 --> 00:00:51.939 Yankees should fire Aaron Boone at the end of 00:00:51.939 --> 00:00:54.539 the spot. Logan, welcome back to the pod. How 00:00:54.539 --> 00:00:57.479 are you doing today, sir? I'm doing great. Thanks 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.659 for having me back. It's a pleasure to be back. 00:00:59.960 --> 00:01:04.060 I think this is our third rendition now. Yes. 00:01:05.700 --> 00:01:07.700 Three time co hosts. So we don't have anything 00:01:07.700 --> 00:01:10.760 as extravagant as SNL for a five time co host. 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:13.359 But just know that three is like rarefied air 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:14.959 means you're regular and we'll have you back 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:19.799 anytime. Glad to be in and rare company. I'm 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:22.819 excited to talk giants. I'm excited to talk Yankees. 00:01:23.099 --> 00:01:25.069 So I mean, that's the real reason that you're 00:01:25.069 --> 00:01:27.329 here. JJ is probably going to be listening to 00:01:27.329 --> 00:01:30.090 this as skin crawling, but no. First time ever, 00:01:30.269 --> 00:01:32.950 history being made on buffalo bread. We are talking 00:01:32.950 --> 00:01:36.250 ball as in baseball at the end of the spot. Dude, 00:01:36.390 --> 00:01:39.370 cannot wait. All right. So Logan, just real quick, 00:01:39.750 --> 00:01:41.829 reintroduce yourself to the fans at home, right? 00:01:42.129 --> 00:01:46.209 So you are a Giants fan, but you also have a 00:01:46.209 --> 00:01:48.069 Ravens fan in the family in the form of your 00:01:48.069 --> 00:01:50.359 brother. Is that correct? That is correct. Yes. 00:01:50.459 --> 00:01:52.780 So you've got some interesting synergies here 00:01:52.780 --> 00:01:55.140 in the off season with the Harbaugh move, all 00:01:55.140 --> 00:01:57.280 your free agency moves. Tell us a little bit 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:59.680 about your Giants fandom. And then is there tension 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:01.599 with you and your brother right now over what's 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:04.420 gone down between your two teams? Yeah. So I've, 00:02:04.579 --> 00:02:08.439 I've been a Giants fan for years. Um, I was a 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:11.400 Giants fan when Eli Manning, you know, killed 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:15.189 Tom Brady. So I was a Giants fan when Old Al 00:02:15.189 --> 00:02:17.629 Beckham took the world by storm with his miraculous 00:02:17.629 --> 00:02:20.409 one -headed catch. So I've been a Giants fan 00:02:20.409 --> 00:02:23.370 for years. I've seen the highs and the lows and 00:02:23.370 --> 00:02:26.949 everything in between. Yeah, as far as tension 00:02:26.949 --> 00:02:29.009 goes between my brother and I, yeah, there was 00:02:29.009 --> 00:02:31.909 a few choice words shot back and forth to each 00:02:31.909 --> 00:02:35.750 other over the past few months between John Harbaugh 00:02:35.750 --> 00:02:39.389 coming to the Giants and then him bringing about 00:02:39.389 --> 00:02:42.550 half his roster with him. No kidding. which I 00:02:42.550 --> 00:02:47.349 know we'll get into further, but yeah. He kind 00:02:47.349 --> 00:02:49.270 of, my brother kind of knew it was coming with 00:02:49.270 --> 00:02:52.229 him. He knew Harbaugh's reign was coming to an 00:02:52.229 --> 00:02:55.550 end in Baltimore. Was he thrilled that it happened? 00:02:55.830 --> 00:02:58.310 Not really. Was he thrilled he lost half his 00:02:58.310 --> 00:03:03.030 roster? Definitely not, but yeah, it's been an 00:03:03.030 --> 00:03:04.729 interesting ride for the past couple of months. 00:03:04.830 --> 00:03:07.389 I've been picking on him, so hopefully I can 00:03:07.389 --> 00:03:10.650 rub it in his face a little more this year. There 00:03:10.650 --> 00:03:12.909 you go. There you go. It'll have the sibling 00:03:12.909 --> 00:03:15.129 rivalry will have a little extra juice to it 00:03:15.129 --> 00:03:17.550 this year, right? Well, it's on the line. But 00:03:17.550 --> 00:03:21.110 low key Baltimore landed, I think probably my 00:03:21.110 --> 00:03:23.250 favorite head coach candidate and Jesse mentor. 00:03:23.729 --> 00:03:25.729 And also, man, they got a real one and Anthony 00:03:25.729 --> 00:03:27.370 Weaver with the DC. Maybe I should have your 00:03:27.370 --> 00:03:29.169 brother on to talk Ravens at some point because 00:03:29.169 --> 00:03:32.330 like I, I don't I don't love their roster positioning 00:03:32.330 --> 00:03:35.979 right now. Thanks to thanks to your guy Harbaugh. 00:03:36.300 --> 00:03:38.419 But Raven's low key could could do some things 00:03:38.419 --> 00:03:40.219 in the draft that'll make them interesting. So 00:03:40.219 --> 00:03:41.860 but that's not what we're here to talk about. 00:03:41.860 --> 00:03:44.379 We are here to talk about your G men, sir. So 00:03:44.379 --> 00:03:46.419 let's quick recap 2025. And then we're going 00:03:46.419 --> 00:03:48.000 to dive right into it. I'll give you the floor. 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:50.500 So I think the most notable thing that happened. 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:52.639 Well, two things really, you had the emergence 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:55.740 of Jackson Dart, flyer at the end of the first 00:03:55.740 --> 00:03:58.060 round of the draft last year, ends up getting 00:03:58.060 --> 00:04:01.039 real starting time real reps, and you see immediately 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:03.560 kind of the talent. More importantly, I think 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:05.560 the energy, leadership, and juice that he brought 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:09.060 to the clubhouse as a rookie. Dayball, who had 00:04:09.060 --> 00:04:11.500 hitched his wagon to dart, fired mid -year, which 00:04:11.500 --> 00:04:13.280 I think we can all agree was the right move, 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:16.160 even us Bills fans. Dayball will never pay for 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:18.220 a beer in Buffalo for what he did for Josh Allen. 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:21.600 But by the same token, Dayball was ill befitting 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:24.810 of a head coach job. Shane was interesting. A 00:04:24.810 --> 00:04:26.490 lot of people criticize the move to get rid of 00:04:26.490 --> 00:04:28.930 day ball, but not to get rid of Shane Mara keep 00:04:28.930 --> 00:04:30.769 Shane, but it's really clear. And we'll get into 00:04:30.769 --> 00:04:33.389 this later that with the arrival of John Harbaugh, 00:04:33.569 --> 00:04:36.430 Shane has in fact been retained, but in reality, 00:04:36.430 --> 00:04:39.629 he has been demoted to basically head scout at 00:04:39.629 --> 00:04:42.730 this point. So all of that turbulence, all of 00:04:42.730 --> 00:04:45.730 that change here we are before we get into 2026 00:04:45.730 --> 00:04:48.310 Logan. Listen, we always like to start on a positive 00:04:48.310 --> 00:04:51.269 note with the pod. So Even though it was not 00:04:51.269 --> 00:04:53.649 the season you guys hoped for, win -loss wise, 00:04:53.970 --> 00:04:55.970 some good stuff happened, right? So why don't 00:04:55.970 --> 00:04:58.430 you quick give us your highlights from the 2025 00:04:58.430 --> 00:05:01.930 season for your New York Giants. Yeah, I think 00:05:01.930 --> 00:05:05.569 as far as highlights go, we'll start with Jackson 00:05:05.569 --> 00:05:07.430 Dart because I know you mentioned him. You know, 00:05:07.550 --> 00:05:10.550 Jackson Dart, I think, proved to the league that 00:05:10.550 --> 00:05:13.430 he's a franchise guy. He's our franchise quarterback. 00:05:13.670 --> 00:05:18.850 He is the guy we drafted him for a reason. He 00:05:18.850 --> 00:05:21.870 is... proven himself and the opportunities that 00:05:21.870 --> 00:05:25.550 he's gotten now. A lot of people might criticize 00:05:25.550 --> 00:05:28.290 it hasn't shown record wise, but he put up good 00:05:28.290 --> 00:05:31.949 numbers. He made a lot of plays. He put a team 00:05:31.949 --> 00:05:34.829 that didn't expect to win in a lot of winning 00:05:34.829 --> 00:05:39.209 positions. So that's one big highlight is getting 00:05:39.209 --> 00:05:41.350 your franchise quarterback that we've been longing 00:05:41.350 --> 00:05:45.889 to have. I think a second highlight for us from 00:05:45.889 --> 00:05:48.699 from last year. and it kind of played into Jackson 00:05:48.699 --> 00:05:50.860 Dirt's success was offensive line improvement. 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:56.100 I think our offensive line took a big step forward, 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.379 especially from the start of the year. We saw 00:05:59.379 --> 00:06:01.100 at the start of the year Russell was struggling 00:06:01.100 --> 00:06:03.800 to get the ball out, didn't have a lot of time, 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:05.759 and it seemed towards the end of the year as 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:09.279 our offensive line got healthier, we really found 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:11.980 that group on the line that kind of clicked and 00:06:11.980 --> 00:06:15.439 worked well together. and was able to mesh and 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:17.139 protect the quarterback and allow our quarterback 00:06:17.139 --> 00:06:20.000 to make plays as well as our running backs as 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:24.699 well. We saw Camp Scadaboo and Tyrone Tracy run 00:06:24.699 --> 00:06:28.279 for a lot of yards. Camp Scadaboo had some huge 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:31.120 games. Tyrone Tracy had some huge games when 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:35.920 Scat went down later in the year. So taking that 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:38.339 big step on the offensive line side that struggled 00:06:38.339 --> 00:06:41.480 for how many years now was really nice to see. 00:06:42.860 --> 00:06:46.339 I think Wondell Robinson's career year at receiver 00:06:46.339 --> 00:06:50.920 was another positive note. It kind of makes you 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:52.779 wonder what's in store for Malik neighbors when 00:06:52.779 --> 00:06:55.339 he's fully healthy. Now having that guy to throw 00:06:55.339 --> 00:06:58.379 him the ball and make plays with them, what's 00:06:58.379 --> 00:07:01.720 in store for him. And as I kind of touched on 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:05.500 before, that run game with Scadaboo and Tracy 00:07:05.500 --> 00:07:09.759 kind of gives you some reminders of Jacobs and 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:13.209 the Bradshaw era. from back during the Super 00:07:13.209 --> 00:07:15.389 Bowl, those two guys that aren't afraid to take 00:07:15.389 --> 00:07:18.829 hits and have some contact and run through people 00:07:18.829 --> 00:07:21.709 and be a physical backfield that teams are scared 00:07:21.709 --> 00:07:24.810 of. So I think those were a few of the major 00:07:24.810 --> 00:07:28.490 highlights in my eyes. Although the record didn't 00:07:28.490 --> 00:07:31.170 show, it was an exciting year for me. I think 00:07:31.170 --> 00:07:34.089 there's a lot of positives to take forward into 00:07:34.089 --> 00:07:37.750 this year, into this new era, and hopefully build 00:07:37.750 --> 00:07:40.480 on that and become more successful. And I think 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:42.180 a lot of the success that you mentioned from 00:07:42.180 --> 00:07:44.199 2025, again, even though it didn't show up in 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:46.439 the win loss record, I think it's got a lot of 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.160 people picking you guys as like this year's Patriots 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:51.060 and Harbaugh's this year's variable, you know 00:07:51.060 --> 00:07:52.480 what I mean? And we'll talk a little bit about 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:56.300 that. But I mean, honestly, the the way that 00:07:56.300 --> 00:07:57.980 things have played out for you guys in free agency, 00:07:58.139 --> 00:08:00.879 you've shored up a lot of holes, right? You've 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.069 got an great opportunity in the draft for the 00:08:03.069 --> 00:08:06.290 top five pick to to further solidify that young 00:08:06.290 --> 00:08:08.449 defensive core the chains built out over the 00:08:08.449 --> 00:08:10.910 past few years. You guys have some opportunity 00:08:10.910 --> 00:08:14.029 before we get to any of that. Let's talk from 00:08:14.029 --> 00:08:16.910 a big picture organizational view is literally 00:08:16.910 --> 00:08:19.209 a new world order not just with Harbaugh, but 00:08:19.209 --> 00:08:21.189 with some of the changes that you guys have with 00:08:21.189 --> 00:08:23.810 ownership. So Logan, I want to start here. The 00:08:23.810 --> 00:08:25.949 stitches are transferring their ownership stake 00:08:25.949 --> 00:08:29.160 to a trust. as a result of Steve Tish's appearance 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:31.639 here in the Epstein files. So for Bill's fans 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:33.679 that are unfamiliar with the role that Tish's 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:35.879 play versus the Mara's play, because we all know 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:37.740 we all know the Mara family is the ones that 00:08:37.740 --> 00:08:40.460 really run the show there. But Steve Tish has 00:08:40.460 --> 00:08:42.399 had an executive position with the Giants for 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:45.100 some time now. Yeah. Give us a little bit about 00:08:45.100 --> 00:08:48.080 us. Bill's fans a little bit of a primer is what 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:50.960 if anything changes with the changing role of 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:55.139 Steve Tish in this organization? Yeah. So I think 00:08:55.139 --> 00:08:58.370 truly that the move is more of a planning for 00:08:58.370 --> 00:09:01.789 the future than anything. Kind of the stuff I've 00:09:01.789 --> 00:09:04.309 read has been more of stuff will continue as 00:09:04.309 --> 00:09:07.049 usual, jobs will continue as usual. It'll be 00:09:07.049 --> 00:09:08.970 kind of the status quo around the organization. 00:09:10.269 --> 00:09:13.629 The Tish's never really held a big presence on 00:09:13.629 --> 00:09:16.250 the football side of things. That was more of 00:09:16.250 --> 00:09:19.230 the Mara family and John Mara making those real 00:09:19.230 --> 00:09:21.850 executive decisions on the football side. Although 00:09:22.620 --> 00:09:25.220 that Tisha's did have some say and what kind 00:09:25.220 --> 00:09:27.440 of happened. They played a role in who we hired 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:29.960 as head coach and bringing in John Harbaugh. 00:09:30.139 --> 00:09:33.100 They do have a presence there, but they're more 00:09:33.100 --> 00:09:37.299 of the corporate side. And of course, the transitioning 00:09:37.299 --> 00:09:43.440 over of that stake in the team to that fund was 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:47.820 obviously not a great time as Steve Tisha's name 00:09:47.820 --> 00:09:50.120 was brought up in the Epstein files and that 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:53.419 whole situation unfolded. Um, that dark cloud 00:09:53.419 --> 00:09:56.200 has seemed to blown over, blown over for the 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:59.100 time being. Um, but again, I think it'll be the 00:09:59.100 --> 00:10:01.340 status quo as normal for the New York giants. 00:10:01.820 --> 00:10:05.059 I think jobs and responsibilities from, from 00:10:05.059 --> 00:10:07.299 that side of things will continue as normal. 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:10.860 Um, I don't think we should see much of a change 00:10:10.860 --> 00:10:13.879 overall. All right, cool. No, I, we appreciate 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.720 those insights for sure. Um, and a lot of Bill's 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:19.299 fans. living in upstate New York, we have giants, 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:22.559 we have family that are giants fans, like there 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:24.820 are even some bills fans that are like, Oh, my 00:10:24.820 --> 00:10:27.320 second team in the NFC is the giant. So there 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:30.639 is definitely a core of bills mafia that is interested 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:33.279 in this kind of stuff. They are also interested 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:36.080 in your new head coach. So we've alluded to it. 00:10:36.179 --> 00:10:38.700 Let's talk directly about it. Harbaugh arguably 00:10:38.700 --> 00:10:41.600 the top head coaching candidate in this year 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:43.820 cycle cycle that's our record amount of coaching 00:10:43.820 --> 00:10:46.919 vacancies and very much so at least the most 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.980 decorated right so you have now gone from a first 00:10:49.980 --> 00:10:52.460 time head coach and brian day ball someone who 00:10:52.460 --> 00:10:55.620 i think we both agree his temperament was not 00:10:55.620 --> 00:10:58.659 yet made or mature and mature enough to be a 00:10:58.659 --> 00:11:02.769 head coach to. a wealth of experience in Harbaugh. 00:11:02.809 --> 00:11:05.909 Give us the ceiling year one. Is this Vrabel 00:11:05.909 --> 00:11:08.769 -esque? Do you guys make this amazing run that 00:11:08.769 --> 00:11:11.309 no one is predicting? Are the playoffs on the 00:11:11.309 --> 00:11:13.370 docket or is there something kind of in between 00:11:13.370 --> 00:11:15.289 that you are expecting this season? Where did 00:11:15.289 --> 00:11:18.710 the GMN go into Harbaugh in 2026? Logan? Yeah, 00:11:18.830 --> 00:11:21.190 I think, you know, to start, I think the hire 00:11:21.190 --> 00:11:25.470 was phenomenal. Me personally, truly wasn't expecting 00:11:25.470 --> 00:11:29.009 it. to be John Harbaugh as much as I wanted it 00:11:29.009 --> 00:11:32.169 to be when I saw he was available. So I'm thrilled. 00:11:32.250 --> 00:11:34.070 I'm excited to have a guy with such a wealth 00:11:34.070 --> 00:11:37.509 of knowledge and a winning culture. He's brought 00:11:37.509 --> 00:11:39.970 to Baltimore. I'm excited to have that brought 00:11:39.970 --> 00:11:44.629 to New York. As far as where we go in 2026, I 00:11:44.629 --> 00:11:47.789 do think we have the talent and Harbaugh's knowledge 00:11:47.789 --> 00:11:50.549 and what he's bringing to the team to be that 00:11:50.549 --> 00:11:53.429 Patriot -esque kind of team where we go from 00:11:53.429 --> 00:11:58.220 worst to first. Where I personally see us in 00:11:58.220 --> 00:12:01.259 the coming year is kind of the middle of the 00:12:01.259 --> 00:12:03.620 road. I do not think we're going to be where 00:12:03.620 --> 00:12:06.700 we were last year in 2025. I think we're sitting 00:12:06.700 --> 00:12:10.500 more middle of the road, winning record, of course, 00:12:10.700 --> 00:12:12.679 competing with a lot of these good teams that 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:16.259 I think teams and fans would normally think we 00:12:16.259 --> 00:12:20.740 would get smoked by week in and week out. I think 00:12:20.740 --> 00:12:22.379 Harbaugh is really going to bring a change of 00:12:22.379 --> 00:12:25.100 culture to this team. I think it's going to be 00:12:25.100 --> 00:12:28.179 a real culture shock to a lot of people. But 00:12:28.179 --> 00:12:30.220 I think it's going to be a pleasant shock in 00:12:30.220 --> 00:12:33.320 the end when we're winning games. We don't have 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:37.299 to worry about losing by 21 or more every week. 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.480 So I think it'll be an exciting year. I'm looking 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.220 forward to it. I'm looking forward to turning 00:12:42.220 --> 00:12:45.600 things around. And I'm hopefully looking forward 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.019 to making the playoffs and making a run at another 00:12:48.019 --> 00:12:50.580 Super Bowl. Nice. I mean, I do think playoffs 00:12:50.580 --> 00:12:53.279 are on the docket for you guys. And he has already 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:55.519 started to shift the culture and the way that 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:58.159 he has reorganized. So for those folks listening 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.659 that aren't familiar with the internal workings 00:13:00.659 --> 00:13:04.799 of the New York Giants, Harbaugh is now reporting 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:08.740 to Mara. as is Shane, right? Yes. This is the 00:13:08.740 --> 00:13:11.159 setup for Bill's fans at home that McDermott 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:14.620 and Bean had until Brady was hired. And now everything 00:13:14.620 --> 00:13:17.399 rolls up in the org chart through Bean, and Bean 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:19.960 is the only one reporting directly to Pugula. 00:13:20.419 --> 00:13:23.399 So bit of a shake up there. And it's really clear 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:25.759 that Joe Shane has a much different role than 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:29.980 he did when Dave Ball was head coach. Harbaugh's 00:13:29.980 --> 00:13:32.559 brought in his own senior VP of football operations. 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.379 He has made all these moves to remake the roster. 00:13:35.539 --> 00:13:37.399 We joked he brought half of Baltimore with him, 00:13:37.539 --> 00:13:41.059 but he really kind of did. So it's clear that 00:13:41.059 --> 00:13:43.320 optimism reigns supreme in New York, but it's 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:45.679 also clear that Harbaugh has a lot of say in 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:48.940 personnel decisions and Logan, the history of 00:13:48.940 --> 00:13:52.299 head coaches. that have a huge load to bear on 00:13:52.299 --> 00:13:54.759 the personnel side of things has not been great 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:57.580 for unfueled results. Add to that that I actually 00:13:57.580 --> 00:13:59.259 think you were you were one of the bigger fans 00:13:59.259 --> 00:14:02.120 of Shane and the way that he drafted. So overall, 00:14:02.500 --> 00:14:05.000 how do you feel about Harbaugh asserting himself 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:06.919 into the personnel game? And how do you feel 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:08.840 about Shane's new role with the organization? 00:14:09.820 --> 00:14:13.960 Yeah, I don't hate it overall. I think this this 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:16.480 new role with Harbaugh, I think it's partly him 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:19.490 kind of using. that history he has in the league 00:14:19.490 --> 00:14:22.190 to his advantage. As far as his stature goes 00:14:22.190 --> 00:14:25.149 in the organization, he's a guy that's obviously 00:14:25.149 --> 00:14:28.909 been around the block for years and years. He 00:14:28.909 --> 00:14:31.649 expects that kind of respect in an organization. 00:14:31.850 --> 00:14:34.830 I think he wants that when it comes to rebuilding 00:14:34.830 --> 00:14:37.490 a team. He hasn't had to do this in a while. 00:14:37.769 --> 00:14:40.110 He's had a team in Baltimore that's been talented 00:14:40.110 --> 00:14:42.789 year in and year out, although they didn't get 00:14:42.789 --> 00:14:45.110 the results they wanted. And I'll pick on my 00:14:45.110 --> 00:14:48.690 brother a little bit. They were a disappointment 00:14:48.690 --> 00:14:51.950 when it really got down to it. He's had that 00:14:51.950 --> 00:14:54.429 roster though to compete every year. I think 00:14:54.429 --> 00:14:57.029 this is a first time in a long time where he's 00:14:57.029 --> 00:15:00.149 kind of rebuilding the team and trying to get 00:15:00.149 --> 00:15:03.389 them to that winning culture. With that being 00:15:03.389 --> 00:15:06.330 said though, and talking about Joe Shane, I think 00:15:06.330 --> 00:15:07.970 Joe Shane still brings a lot of value to this 00:15:07.970 --> 00:15:11.490 organization. I've always said it that I've loved 00:15:11.490 --> 00:15:13.970 the way he's drafted. I think he's brought a 00:15:13.970 --> 00:15:17.399 lot of good young talent to the Giants that You 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:19.620 know, not everyone always works out, but I think 00:15:19.620 --> 00:15:21.820 we've had a good group of guys in the time Joe 00:15:21.820 --> 00:15:24.000 Shane's been our general manager that have been 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:27.500 very good products for this team and very good 00:15:27.500 --> 00:15:31.559 NFL talents. So I think it's important for the 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.559 Giants to keep utilizing that. I really don't 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:38.279 want us to wash away our relationship with Joe 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:40.379 Shane. I'm kind of worried it's heading in that 00:15:40.379 --> 00:15:44.759 direction. But I also think Joe Shane hasn't 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:47.879 made the best calls with personnel of the organization. 00:15:48.419 --> 00:15:51.559 I think he's let the leash draw out a little 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:56.539 too long for guys. It resulted in some bad games 00:15:56.539 --> 00:16:00.039 last year. I think it resulted in Dable being 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.320 kept around for a little longer than he should 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:06.940 have. So I think ultimately, you know, it got 00:16:06.940 --> 00:16:09.240 to a point where even I think Mara was fed up 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:11.240 and he's like, listen, you're not making the 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:13.820 right calls at personnel of this organization. 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:16.519 We're going to change it up. We're still going 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:18.840 to use your value for scouting and drafting, 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.639 you know, rookies. Um, but we got to change something, 00:16:22.820 --> 00:16:25.940 which I don't entirely disagree with. Um, we'll 00:16:25.940 --> 00:16:27.940 see how it goes. We'll see how everything turns 00:16:27.940 --> 00:16:30.580 out in this year. And, you know, next year, as 00:16:30.580 --> 00:16:33.759 we really get into, to hardballs rain as head 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:35.779 coach and, you know, kind of how you stated, 00:16:35.779 --> 00:16:39.639 you know, the CEO of the organization. Um, but 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:43.419 I'm excited. Uh, I hope Shane still is like really 00:16:43.419 --> 00:16:45.639 committed to this organization. I hope he hasn't. 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.039 they know lost a lot for the organization because 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:53.159 of this. You know him very well. He kind of has 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.620 that edgy side to him where he's not really afraid 00:16:56.620 --> 00:17:00.059 to give his opinion or like his own personal 00:17:00.059 --> 00:17:04.039 opinion. Obviously don't want any friction between 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:07.539 anyone because that never turns out well for 00:17:07.539 --> 00:17:10.059 anyone in the organization. But I'm excited. 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:12.339 I think, I think there's a lot of potential to 00:17:12.339 --> 00:17:14.299 do good things here with the way we're setting 00:17:14.299 --> 00:17:17.400 up the organization. So, um, again, really excited 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:19.960 to see where it goes. Yeah. I'm excited to see 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:21.920 how this plays out. I wonder if this is a one 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:24.559 and done experiment for Shane kind of in this 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:28.380 new, new role, right? Um, especially if things 00:17:28.380 --> 00:17:30.960 it's always so interesting. We experienced this 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:34.609 as Bill's fans with McDermott's firing the PR 00:17:34.609 --> 00:17:37.589 campaign that happens behind the scenes. Even 00:17:37.589 --> 00:17:40.089 Brandon Bean in the course of the season, you 00:17:40.089 --> 00:17:42.630 know, leaking to the media all the trades he 00:17:42.630 --> 00:17:46.289 was in on but never made. Should should things 00:17:46.289 --> 00:17:48.509 I'm rooting for you guys to be interesting and 00:17:48.509 --> 00:17:50.529 successful this year, but things don't go well 00:17:50.529 --> 00:17:53.500 this season. it'll be interesting to see, especially 00:17:53.500 --> 00:17:56.440 with that New York media like cesspool that it's 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:59.460 going on down there, what the sniping looks like 00:17:59.460 --> 00:18:01.960 between Harbaugh and Shane's camps. Should things 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:04.500 not go well this year? Should, should Isaiah 00:18:04.500 --> 00:18:06.500 likely get injured or not perform? Well, you 00:18:06.500 --> 00:18:08.359 know what I mean? Who bears the blame for that? 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:10.819 So yeah, so definitely some interesting things 00:18:10.819 --> 00:18:13.700 to see. But I think I think hope should reign 00:18:13.700 --> 00:18:15.740 supreme for you guys, mostly because it looks 00:18:15.740 --> 00:18:18.279 like you got your quarterback, right? Yeah. And 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:22.740 it is so key to pair your QB with a good offensive 00:18:22.740 --> 00:18:24.400 coordinator, particularly when you got a head 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:27.220 coach like Harbaugh, who is more that CEO style. 00:18:27.460 --> 00:18:30.000 He cut his teeth in special teams, really doesn't 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:32.720 have a side of the primary side of the ball that 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:35.700 he favors. So his coordinator hires are always 00:18:35.700 --> 00:18:38.059 interesting because these guys are going to have 00:18:38.059 --> 00:18:40.980 free reign over their side of the ball. So he 00:18:40.980 --> 00:18:44.460 brings in Matt Nagy, a guy who recently had a 00:18:44.460 --> 00:18:47.460 stint with the Chiefs, you know, working with 00:18:47.460 --> 00:18:49.789 Patchmore Homes before that. head coach for the 00:18:49.789 --> 00:18:52.210 Chicago Bears has had a lot of up and downs in 00:18:52.210 --> 00:18:55.170 his career. Isn't the most creative play caller, 00:18:55.250 --> 00:18:57.329 but he's a guy that knows how to build offensive 00:18:57.329 --> 00:19:00.750 infrastructure around a mobile QB. So talk to 00:19:00.750 --> 00:19:02.970 me a little bit about how you feel about the 00:19:02.970 --> 00:19:05.789 naggy hire. And if you think this is the right 00:19:05.789 --> 00:19:08.990 move for darts overall development. Yeah. I think 00:19:08.990 --> 00:19:15.700 at first I was a little iffy on it. You had mentioned 00:19:15.700 --> 00:19:19.380 that Matt Nagy doesn't exactly run the most exciting 00:19:19.380 --> 00:19:23.220 and shiny offensive scheme that we kind of see 00:19:23.220 --> 00:19:27.859 a lot of nowadays in the NFL. But with that being 00:19:27.859 --> 00:19:33.359 said, he has coached a Super Bowl winning team, 00:19:33.460 --> 00:19:36.400 both as a QB coach and as an offensive coordinator. 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:39.339 I know some people, there's debate on how much 00:19:39.339 --> 00:19:41.220 he really called the offense that year with Andy 00:19:41.220 --> 00:19:43.670 Reid, but still. Nonetheless, he was the OC of 00:19:43.670 --> 00:19:47.230 a Super Bowl winning team. And he also coached 00:19:47.230 --> 00:19:49.650 a quarterback who is in the argument for greatest 00:19:49.650 --> 00:19:54.849 of all time for multiple years. So, you know, 00:19:54.990 --> 00:19:56.630 taking that all into consideration, I think it 00:19:56.630 --> 00:19:58.750 can be really good for Jackson Dart. This is 00:19:58.750 --> 00:20:01.150 a guy, again, with a wealth of knowledge in the 00:20:01.150 --> 00:20:04.369 NFL. He's been around the block. He's had success. 00:20:05.170 --> 00:20:07.930 He's had success with a guy who plays with a 00:20:07.930 --> 00:20:10.109 somewhat similar play style as Jackson Dart. 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:12.799 a guy who likes to get out of the pocket, move 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:15.920 the ball downfield, move around the field himself 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:20.160 and run the ball, take risks, scramble. So I 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:22.759 think if Matt Nagy can channel that and channel 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.279 what he channeled with Patrick Mahomes, I think 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:28.440 there's endless success there between the two 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:31.960 of them. I'm very intrigued to see what this 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:34.710 offense will look like. I'm interested to see 00:20:34.710 --> 00:20:36.769 if Harbaugh will kind of influence Matt Nagy 00:20:36.769 --> 00:20:39.490 to add a little more spice to what he calls in 00:20:39.490 --> 00:20:42.289 an offense and not be overly bland. Like, you 00:20:42.289 --> 00:20:44.410 know, I kind of mentioned he's been in the past. 00:20:45.509 --> 00:20:48.450 But again, I think Matt Nagy can be really good 00:20:48.450 --> 00:20:51.930 for Jackson Dart. This is a guy who can develop 00:20:51.930 --> 00:20:56.609 him, you know, help him understand the ropes 00:20:56.609 --> 00:20:59.910 of the NFL and really set his feet in the league. 00:21:01.139 --> 00:21:04.380 Because again Jackson Darts a guy who has wanted 00:21:04.380 --> 00:21:07.579 to learn even from his his start of those rookie 00:21:07.579 --> 00:21:10.400 year He always wanted to learn he's got two guys 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:12.220 there as veterans in the quarterback room. They 00:21:12.220 --> 00:21:15.880 can help him learn as well It's nothing but an 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:17.640 endless wealth of knowledge for Jackson Dard 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:20.890 that I think can only help him. Yeah And I think 00:21:20.890 --> 00:21:23.230 that is the benefit of bringing in a steady hand, 00:21:23.230 --> 00:21:26.730 right? May not be like the splashy Mike McDaniel 00:21:26.730 --> 00:21:30.009 hire that everyone that had an OC opening wanted 00:21:30.009 --> 00:21:31.829 McDaniel this year. No one wanted the dude as 00:21:31.829 --> 00:21:33.829 a head coach, but everyone wanted him as an OC, 00:21:33.829 --> 00:21:37.230 right? May not have the splash in the creativity 00:21:37.230 --> 00:21:40.349 of that, but Nagy is in fact a steady hand. And 00:21:40.349 --> 00:21:45.589 when you've got a guy like Dart that plays at 00:21:45.589 --> 00:21:49.369 a thousand miles an hour, you need someone like 00:21:49.369 --> 00:21:53.130 that. to, I think, have a counterweight to that 00:21:53.130 --> 00:21:56.589 personality type. And Dayball was not that. Dayball 00:21:56.589 --> 00:21:59.690 was headbutting Dart on the sideline. Like, Dayball 00:21:59.690 --> 00:22:02.950 didn't know how to teach a young QB in Dart how 00:22:02.950 --> 00:22:05.170 to modulate his emotion on the field, right, 00:22:05.230 --> 00:22:07.369 and make some of those more cerebral decisions. 00:22:07.769 --> 00:22:10.809 And I think Nagy will have that calming influence 00:22:10.809 --> 00:22:14.309 on Dart. I do think it's a smart move in that 00:22:14.309 --> 00:22:16.569 regard. Ultimately, we'll see what the structure 00:22:16.569 --> 00:22:18.849 of the offense looks like. You guys, you know, 00:22:19.009 --> 00:22:21.430 improved online situation, Scadaboo comes back 00:22:21.430 --> 00:22:23.609 healthy. You've got a decent run game. You got 00:22:23.609 --> 00:22:26.109 to replace Robinson on wide receiver room, but 00:22:26.109 --> 00:22:27.950 you know, Harbaugh has, as we have said, is at 00:22:27.950 --> 00:22:31.890 a busy off season, right? Yeah. Going into that, 00:22:31.890 --> 00:22:34.470 going away from like some of the coaching, organizational 00:22:34.470 --> 00:22:36.990 moves. Let's talk about this roster and dudes 00:22:36.990 --> 00:22:39.069 that'll actually play in between the sidelines 00:22:39.069 --> 00:22:43.529 here. So give us your top three free agent moves, 00:22:43.529 --> 00:22:46.390 Logan, that the Giants have made so far this 00:22:46.390 --> 00:22:50.109 off season. Yeah. Obviously kind of like you 00:22:50.109 --> 00:22:52.430 mentioned, Harbaugh has been busy. We've been 00:22:52.430 --> 00:22:54.690 busy in all facets of free agency from getting 00:22:54.690 --> 00:22:58.150 rid of guys to adding guys. So my top three guys 00:22:58.150 --> 00:23:01.500 that we added. What's your ads want to resign 00:23:01.500 --> 00:23:05.839 the first ad is tremendous linebacker coming 00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:08.619 from chicago i hate this for you i hate this 00:23:08.619 --> 00:23:12.400 for us love it for you yes i'm a team who obviously 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:14.299 made the playoffs last year and had a lot of 00:23:14.299 --> 00:23:18.579 success under new head coach johnson. He i think 00:23:18.579 --> 00:23:21.559 he's a phenomenal player i was surprised to see 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:25.440 chicago let him go i'm so happy that we got this 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:28.589 is the guy who. And every season of his NFL career 00:23:28.589 --> 00:23:32.309 has a hundred plus tackles. He's a season post 00:23:32.309 --> 00:23:35.150 season player. He's been in multiple postseason 00:23:35.150 --> 00:23:38.710 games. So he has that under his belt. This is 00:23:38.710 --> 00:23:43.329 also funny enough, a Joe Shane product and Buffalo. 00:23:43.430 --> 00:23:46.509 Correct. He was drafted by Joe Shane out of Virginia 00:23:46.509 --> 00:23:50.289 Tech into Buffalo. So it's kind of ironic and 00:23:50.289 --> 00:23:53.779 interesting to see that reunion. So I think for 00:23:53.779 --> 00:23:56.599 main admins will be is a great ad. It fills kind 00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:00.680 of a hole we have at linebacker. I know this 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:02.619 isn't another one of my top ones, but we have 00:24:02.619 --> 00:24:04.660 McFadden back. So pairing those two together, 00:24:04.660 --> 00:24:08.440 I think can be really nice. So that's my first 00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:11.319 one. My second one is Greg Newsome. And I know 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:15.299 I mentioned to you off the pod. I loved the signing. 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:19.000 Greg Newsome is obviously a proven corner. He's 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:22.740 proven himself with Cleveland. He was a corner 00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:26.799 in the years where Cleveland was a top, top defense 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:29.140 in the league when they were shutting everyone 00:24:29.140 --> 00:24:32.019 down in the past game. I think he is a great 00:24:32.019 --> 00:24:35.299 ad to be opposite of Pulse and Adibo to help 00:24:35.299 --> 00:24:37.720 us in the past game, which has over the past 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.960 few years been abysmal and our corners have just 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:44.019 been not good, haven't performed well. So I think 00:24:44.019 --> 00:24:48.619 he's a very good ad. My third And this is the 00:24:48.619 --> 00:24:53.700 re -sign that I loved is Jermaine Aluminor. Begged 00:24:53.700 --> 00:24:56.500 for them to re -sign him. I mean, this is a guy 00:24:56.500 --> 00:24:59.700 who, I think he was the glue guy for our offensive 00:24:59.700 --> 00:25:02.599 line. He's a veteran. He's a proven veteran. 00:25:02.900 --> 00:25:06.539 He's one of the best tackles in the league. Although 00:25:06.539 --> 00:25:10.240 he's not Dart's blindside tackle, he still protects 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:15.000 Dart very well. He's one of the top win rate 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.700 guys in the league as far as tackle goes. Um, 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:22.039 and he's just a much needed veteran to keep on 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:25.779 kind of an overall young offensive line. Um, 00:25:25.779 --> 00:25:27.779 we still have some guys who are trying to develop 00:25:27.779 --> 00:25:30.420 into starters and, and proven offensive linemen 00:25:30.420 --> 00:25:32.700 for us. I can hopefully help us like have a Neil. 00:25:32.980 --> 00:25:35.220 And I think he's a good guy to have that can 00:25:35.220 --> 00:25:38.799 hopefully help those guys develop and into players 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:40.799 that can help our team and, and be good linemen 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:46.240 for us. So, um, those are three, three of my. 00:25:46.380 --> 00:25:48.900 Top sign -ins, I could probably have a few more 00:25:48.900 --> 00:25:51.460 if I, if I really thought about them, but yeah, 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:53.519 those are my, those are my top guys so far for 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:55.720 free agency. And this is the interesting thing. 00:25:55.900 --> 00:25:58.900 You very correctly point out, um, admins being 00:25:58.900 --> 00:26:02.180 a Shane product, but Greg Newsome as well, he, 00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:04.980 he, he was part of that weird COVID year draft, 00:26:05.220 --> 00:26:07.880 right? And the bills ended up going, Greg Rousseau, 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:11.059 Boogie Basham and back to back rounds. Um, word 00:26:11.059 --> 00:26:13.839 on the street was that they were in on Newsome. 00:26:13.980 --> 00:26:17.259 had he been available to them when they picked. 00:26:18.140 --> 00:26:20.819 And they really like Newsom because he is a he's 00:26:20.819 --> 00:26:23.799 a zone corner, right? He's had varying levels 00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:27.119 of success, but the the the game intelligence 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.900 is there that the football IQ is there. And he's 00:26:30.900 --> 00:26:33.259 got enough ability to be a really serviceable 00:26:33.259 --> 00:26:35.779 DB. So if you know, people have made all these 00:26:35.779 --> 00:26:38.380 jokes about the Baltimore Giants and Harbaugh 00:26:38.380 --> 00:26:40.619 putting a stamp on this thing, but you know, 00:26:40.700 --> 00:26:42.809 your top two picks. These are guys that have 00:26:42.809 --> 00:26:45.230 strong connections to Joe Shane as well. So I 00:26:45.230 --> 00:26:48.470 do wonder if maybe there is a little bit more 00:26:48.470 --> 00:26:50.690 synergy here behind the scenes between Harbaugh 00:26:50.690 --> 00:26:53.190 and Shane than than anyone would would be led 00:26:53.190 --> 00:26:56.049 to believe but I hate that you guys got Edmonds 00:26:56.049 --> 00:26:58.690 the minute he was released. I was like, please 00:26:58.690 --> 00:27:01.349 Brandon Bean go bring him back. You're gonna 00:27:01.349 --> 00:27:04.349 love watching Tremaine Edmonds play football. 00:27:04.349 --> 00:27:07.170 He is a mistake corrector at the second level. 00:27:07.349 --> 00:27:10.720 He he will blot out the sun with his wingspan. 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:13.880 He will divert open passing lanes for opposing 00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.880 QBs. He is an absolute Hoover in the run game 00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.960 as well at the second level like linebackers 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.680 notoriously need to be kept clean by their defensive 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:24.720 lineman in order to be effective in the run game. 00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:26.619 Tremaine Edmonds just doesn't that dude just 00:27:26.619 --> 00:27:29.519 is gonna ball out no matter what he is a god. 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:31.940 He was like a red oak tree in the middle of that 00:27:31.940 --> 00:27:33.819 defense. Now I hate that you guys got him. I'm 00:27:33.819 --> 00:27:37.380 so mad. All right. All right. But You guys still 00:27:37.380 --> 00:27:40.519 still have a little, few holes on the roster. 00:27:41.500 --> 00:27:43.619 Wide receiver comes to mind, the loss of Robinson, 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:46.539 the, the lack of weird lack of clarity on where 00:27:46.539 --> 00:27:49.140 neighbors is with his recovery. So like, where 00:27:49.140 --> 00:27:52.619 does this roster to you still have some holes? 00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.579 Yeah, go for it. So I know I kind of mentioned 00:27:57.579 --> 00:27:59.799 a Luminor and being that glue guy for the line 00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.140 and helping you guys develop. I think right guard 00:28:03.140 --> 00:28:05.279 right now is a big hole for us still on that 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:09.049 line. Yes. Jay Kubis is not it. He's not the 00:28:09.049 --> 00:28:13.289 answer. We've reportedly been in on some guys 00:28:13.289 --> 00:28:16.349 like Elijah Vera Tucker for that guard position. 00:28:16.430 --> 00:28:18.109 Unfortunately, we lost out on that. That was 00:28:18.109 --> 00:28:22.869 a guy I really wanted. But then again, you know, 00:28:22.950 --> 00:28:25.289 word on the street and kind of rumors that says 00:28:25.289 --> 00:28:28.190 Evan Neil, that guy, he moved a guard. Is he 00:28:28.190 --> 00:28:30.730 going to be that guy? Please come inside. Yes. 00:28:31.849 --> 00:28:33.509 That's kind of the rumor. Is he really going 00:28:33.509 --> 00:28:35.349 to get a shot this year to prove that he's that 00:28:35.349 --> 00:28:37.529 guy on the inside and maybe take that spot and 00:28:37.529 --> 00:28:40.930 earn that spot and prove himself? We'll see. 00:28:41.569 --> 00:28:45.109 But we do need a guy on that right side of the 00:28:45.109 --> 00:28:48.769 offensive line to fill that hole. So that's one 00:28:48.769 --> 00:28:52.210 of them. A second need, and you kind of mentioned 00:28:52.210 --> 00:28:55.809 it, is receiver. We've had a couple receiver 00:28:55.809 --> 00:28:59.130 signings in Darnell Mooney and Calvin Austin. 00:29:00.380 --> 00:29:02.640 Not really what I was looking for at receiver 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:05.839 signing. I mean Darnell Mooney is a very good 00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:09.099 receiver Kelvin Austin's a pretty good slot guy, 00:29:09.099 --> 00:29:13.859 but I think we're still missing that real number 00:29:13.859 --> 00:29:18.440 two To be next to neighbors We signed slate into 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:23.119 that big contract Slayton's not it either Unfortunately 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.720 as much as I hate to say it Slayton's not that 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.180 number two that we need Maybe Darnell Mooney 00:29:29.309 --> 00:29:31.569 And a new environment can be that. I know he 00:29:31.569 --> 00:29:33.930 had a down year with some injuries and, you know, 00:29:34.089 --> 00:29:36.670 really wasn't going his way in Atlanta over the 00:29:36.670 --> 00:29:40.430 last couple of years. Maybe this new environment 00:29:40.430 --> 00:29:42.210 again can be something good for Darnell Mooney 00:29:42.210 --> 00:29:44.450 and maybe he can develop into that number two. 00:29:45.630 --> 00:29:50.029 But again, we need that number two receiver to 00:29:50.029 --> 00:29:52.650 take some of that pressure off of neighbors as 00:29:52.650 --> 00:29:56.599 our number one. And number three. Again, although 00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:58.420 we signed Greg Newsom, I still think we need 00:29:58.420 --> 00:30:01.539 help at corner. Paulson Adibo being hurt a lot 00:30:01.539 --> 00:30:05.779 last year and also not really proving that he's 00:30:05.779 --> 00:30:08.099 that star corner that everyone thought he was 00:30:08.099 --> 00:30:11.319 after that year with the Saints. I think we still 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.859 need some help. Drew Phillips took a step back 00:30:13.859 --> 00:30:16.660 after his rookie year in that slot corner position. 00:30:17.539 --> 00:30:19.720 So it'll be interesting to see if we try to fill 00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:22.420 one of those holes, maybe bump Adibo to a different 00:30:22.420 --> 00:30:26.410 spot. true Phillips losses opportunity and we 00:30:26.410 --> 00:30:29.210 try to fill that gap with another kind of inside 00:30:29.210 --> 00:30:34.289 corner guy, but Corner still I think is is an 00:30:34.289 --> 00:30:36.769 area on our defense that needs a lot of help 00:30:36.769 --> 00:30:40.869 Yeah, I think you you have very correctly identified 00:30:40.869 --> 00:30:43.309 where you guys are at interior offensive line 00:30:43.420 --> 00:30:46.759 for sure wide receiver. Absolutely. Especially 00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:49.380 because they're, Shane was really cagey about 00:30:49.380 --> 00:30:51.599 neighbors injury and what his return timeline 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.339 looks like. And I got, I got the sense that, 00:30:54.539 --> 00:30:56.759 that they found some stuff when they were in 00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:59.259 there. Like he's still in a cast, isn't he here? 00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:01.220 Like he was in the cast for a long time. I think 00:31:01.220 --> 00:31:05.579 he was, he was in the, um, the non -mobile brace, 00:31:05.740 --> 00:31:07.680 the straight light kind of brace for longer than 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.859 normally expected. I think the rumor going around 00:31:10.859 --> 00:31:14.160 was there was potentially some meniscus. issues 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.059 in his knee. His swelling took a while to go 00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:21.759 down. So obviously not stuff I want to hear as 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:24.380 a guy who is a very good, you know, he's on our 00:31:24.380 --> 00:31:27.140 team. He's a very good receiver. So it'll be 00:31:27.140 --> 00:31:29.380 interesting to see when we start getting into 00:31:29.380 --> 00:31:32.420 OTAs and CAM, what's really going on. Maybe we'll 00:31:32.420 --> 00:31:35.099 get a little more clarity, but no, I 100 % agree 00:31:35.099 --> 00:31:37.140 with you that they really haven't shed a lot 00:31:37.140 --> 00:31:39.599 of light in this injury and they've kind of been 00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:41.519 holding back on telling people what's really 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.019 going on. Um, I don't really understand why it 00:31:45.019 --> 00:31:46.980 just tell us. I mean, what's going to happen 00:31:46.980 --> 00:31:48.920 is going to happen. He's either going to be ready 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.240 at the start of the year or he's not. Um, so. 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.359 Yeah, right now it feels like he's trending not, 00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:58.599 but despite all that. And despite the holes that 00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:00.900 you've mentioned, you guys have an opportunity, 00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:04.519 not just in in post draft free agency wave, but 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:06.960 in the draft itself to address these needs. And 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:08.759 you guys are sitting with yet another premium 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.660 pick this year, Logan, you guys have the fifth 00:32:10.660 --> 00:32:14.099 pick this year in the draft. Real quick, tell 00:32:14.099 --> 00:32:17.380 us here, day one of the draft pick number five, 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:22.579 who are the giants selecting? Out of the Ohio 00:32:22.579 --> 00:32:26.539 State University. Sunny styles. Yes. Yes. This 00:32:26.539 --> 00:32:28.859 is who I wanted you to say. Yes. Okay. Go. We 00:32:28.859 --> 00:32:32.079 did not plan this folks. Yes. Go. Sunny styles. 00:32:32.299 --> 00:32:35.440 Of course we signed Tremaine admins at the linebacker 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.579 position. We have Michael McFadden coming back 00:32:37.579 --> 00:32:40.680 from a year on the injury last year, but still 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:44.500 this linebacker core is an injury away from another 00:32:44.500 --> 00:32:49.799 disastrous year. And sunny styles can help give 00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:54.170 us some depth that we need at linebacker to round 00:32:54.170 --> 00:32:57.150 out that defense. He's a versatile guy that can 00:32:57.150 --> 00:32:59.509 rush the passer. He can play a little bit of 00:32:59.509 --> 00:33:02.910 linebacker. He can cover. I think he's a perfect 00:33:02.910 --> 00:33:06.670 guy for this defense who showed to be very well 00:33:06.670 --> 00:33:09.650 running that kind of speed defense, getting after 00:33:09.650 --> 00:33:12.690 the quarterback, getting after the offense. I 00:33:12.690 --> 00:33:15.210 think he fits perfectly. I think he can be that 00:33:15.210 --> 00:33:17.509 Tremaine Edmonds kind of guy where he's all over 00:33:17.509 --> 00:33:21.240 the place. Coverage, run. Assisting the D line 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.599 that of course was among League worst if not 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:29.099 leave worst and run defense last year I think 00:33:29.099 --> 00:33:30.720 he'd be a great pick for us. And that's what 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.960 I'm praying for when when pick five comes around 00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:36.119 Absolutely, because you guys could use some help 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:39.519 on the interior defensive line and help may be 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:41.200 coming right? There's still guys available and 00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.980 free agency and in the draft, but but I mean 00:33:43.980 --> 00:33:48.430 to have the range of an Edmonds in a styles at 00:33:48.430 --> 00:33:51.250 that second level would just be, it would be 00:33:51.250 --> 00:33:53.250 madness. No one's ever getting past the five 00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:55.069 yard line on you guys. You know what I mean? 00:33:55.329 --> 00:33:57.589 And forget about it in pure passing situations. 00:33:57.650 --> 00:34:00.670 They're just going to erase like tight ends. 00:34:01.869 --> 00:34:05.089 That situation with styles and Edmonds. Are you 00:34:05.089 --> 00:34:07.029 a, are you a Marvel movie fan by any chance? 00:34:07.089 --> 00:34:09.829 Ever watched Guardians of the Galaxy? I have 00:34:09.829 --> 00:34:12.449 watched Guardians of the Galaxy. It's funny because 00:34:12.449 --> 00:34:15.329 I, I made an Avengers reference for something 00:34:15.329 --> 00:34:19.070 we're going to talk about, but. Nice. I was good. 00:34:19.309 --> 00:34:22.289 Having Edmonds and styles is like having Groot 00:34:22.289 --> 00:34:24.809 and rocket raccoon at the second level of your 00:34:24.809 --> 00:34:27.130 defense, man. It's going to be, it's going to 00:34:27.130 --> 00:34:29.349 be a match made in heaven. And I really hope 00:34:29.349 --> 00:34:32.730 the giants go that way. My second pick for you 00:34:32.730 --> 00:34:36.610 guys is Caleb downs because also out of the Ohio 00:34:36.610 --> 00:34:40.000 state university, because he's like this. Yeah, 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:42.639 he's a safety, but he really is this positionless 00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:47.099 chess piece a la Kyle Hamilton, that DC is absolutely 00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:48.860 covet. And I think there's a real shot. He's 00:34:48.860 --> 00:34:51.980 there to pick five for you. So I honestly there's 00:34:51.980 --> 00:34:53.980 so just pick an Ohio State guy, Colonel Tate, 00:34:53.980 --> 00:34:55.380 if you want to go the wide receiver, you know 00:34:55.380 --> 00:34:57.940 what I mean? Yeah, just pick an Ohio State guy, 00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.000 Joe Shane and Jim Harbaugh or john Harbaugh, 00:35:00.099 --> 00:35:02.559 nothing's gonna go wrong. So yeah, I'll go back 00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.219 to pick styles to styles to I mean, this is a 00:35:05.219 --> 00:35:09.199 guy who blew everyone away at the combine. I 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.179 mean no one expected to put up the metrics that 00:35:12.179 --> 00:35:15.119 he did at the combine which I mean only helps 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:16.599 him at the end of the day of course with his 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:20.219 raft stock but I mean it shows that he's a pure 00:35:20.219 --> 00:35:23.320 athlete that I would love to have on our defense. 00:35:23.690 --> 00:35:25.889 he's an athlete that knows how to play within 00:35:25.889 --> 00:35:29.550 a defensive structure to like, I mean, Ohio State, 00:35:29.809 --> 00:35:32.550 they run a real NFL defense out there. So he 00:35:32.550 --> 00:35:35.130 there are advanced concepts. He's he comes in 00:35:35.130 --> 00:35:38.309 day one, ready to fit into almost any NFL scheme. 00:35:38.710 --> 00:35:42.940 Man, I would I would be so happy for you. If 00:35:42.940 --> 00:35:45.280 you got to watch styles and Edmonds play football 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.880 together, this is just wild stuff. All right. 00:35:48.340 --> 00:35:49.860 All right. Real quick. Let's wrap this up so 00:35:49.860 --> 00:35:52.400 we can get to what we're really here for Logan, 00:35:52.820 --> 00:35:55.559 which is to talk about the Yankees. All right. 00:35:55.820 --> 00:35:58.179 Predictions for 2020 26 lightning round. Give 00:35:58.179 --> 00:36:02.019 it to me quick. When lost record team, MVP, surprise 00:36:02.019 --> 00:36:04.480 breakout star, and then do the giants make the 00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.599 playoffs this year. All right. Record 10 and 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.579 seven. Is the record for this year. That's what 00:36:09.579 --> 00:36:12.239 I'm going. I think we'll make the playoffs 10 00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:15.659 and seven, uh, team MVP Malik neighbors comes 00:36:15.659 --> 00:36:18.739 back from his gruesome knee injury. He's got 00:36:18.739 --> 00:36:21.619 a real pass thrower, his real quarterback. He 00:36:21.619 --> 00:36:24.760 puts up great numbers at receiver team MVP. Nice 00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:27.780 surprise breakout star Tyler Nubin. Uh, I think 00:36:27.780 --> 00:36:30.480 he takes a big step at safety. I think he's a 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.519 guy that Denard Wilson will like to have in his 00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:36.300 defense. He's got good football IQ. He can move 00:36:36.300 --> 00:36:38.929 all over the place. Fill the run, play the pass 00:36:38.929 --> 00:36:42.050 a little bit. I think he is a surprise breakout 00:36:42.050 --> 00:36:44.730 star for us. And do the Giants make the playoffs? 00:36:44.969 --> 00:36:46.989 I mentioned it already. Yes, the Giants make 00:36:46.989 --> 00:36:51.289 the playoffs. Watch out. I think we're coming. 00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.780 We're coming. Very nice. Very nice. Yeah. Philly 00:36:54.780 --> 00:36:57.119 just always seemed like is an every other year 00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.519 situation. Washington. It all depends on if Daniels 00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:03.320 is healthy. And then, uh, yeah, man, Dallas is 00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:05.659 Dallas Dallas. I was just going to say, I was 00:37:05.659 --> 00:37:07.880 like, who do I say about the Cowboys other than 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.860 that? They're just the Cowboys, right? So yeah, 00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:13.480 man. So there is a real, real shot that 10 and 00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.500 seven is attainable for you. I like the new been 00:37:15.500 --> 00:37:17.440 picked too. I love that kid coming out of Minnesota. 00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:20.599 I loved them when we drafted them. So dude, just 00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:24.710 so We joke about this at work. Um, but so many 00:37:24.710 --> 00:37:27.449 of the guys on your roster are guys. I have wanted 00:37:27.449 --> 00:37:29.929 the bills to get in some way, shape or form. 00:37:30.349 --> 00:37:32.989 You know what I mean? So Ted, it's going right 00:37:32.989 --> 00:37:37.150 away in blue, just not exactly, exactly rocking 00:37:37.150 --> 00:37:39.130 the blue home. It's not the whites. So yeah. 00:37:39.650 --> 00:37:42.329 All right, man. Awesome giants talk as always. 00:37:43.049 --> 00:37:45.789 Let's get to the reason everybody is here so 00:37:45.789 --> 00:37:47.670 folks if you are not a baseball fan this is where 00:37:47.670 --> 00:37:49.429 you want to tune out thank you for listening 00:37:49.429 --> 00:37:51.710 is logan for those of you watching on youtube 00:37:51.710 --> 00:37:55.650 hits his wardrobe chains giants jersey off yankees 00:37:55.650 --> 00:37:57.989 t shirt on let's get into it and we're gonna 00:37:57.989 --> 00:37:59.610 dive right and we're gonna get right into the 00:37:59.610 --> 00:38:03.980 meat of it sir so garrick all carlos radon. They 00:38:03.980 --> 00:38:05.659 both have a chance to come back healthy this 00:38:05.659 --> 00:38:08.300 year. Jury is out and when they'll be back, some 00:38:08.300 --> 00:38:11.719 say May for Rodone, June for Cole, vice versa. 00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:16.139 We'll see. We also have a human tree and Carlos 00:38:16.139 --> 00:38:20.360 LaCrange waiting in the wings with 101 mile an 00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.539 hour stuff as a potential addition to either 00:38:23.539 --> 00:38:26.920 as a spot starter, long reliever. All that being 00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:29.780 said, the Yankees have a really solid rotation 00:38:29.780 --> 00:38:32.730 before Cole and Rodone get back. Will the Yankees 00:38:32.730 --> 00:38:35.530 have the best rotation slash bullpen situation 00:38:35.530 --> 00:38:40.489 in the A .L. when fully healthy? Logan, go. Yes, 00:38:41.010 --> 00:38:45.570 yes, I love this take. I think we do. No other 00:38:45.570 --> 00:38:49.809 team in the American League or I will say in 00:38:49.809 --> 00:38:52.590 the entire MLB has three aces in their starting 00:38:52.590 --> 00:38:57.289 rotation. Rodin has been an ace, can still be 00:38:57.289 --> 00:39:00.469 an ace for any team. I won't say any team, most 00:39:00.469 --> 00:39:04.440 teams. Max Reed, same thing. He was our ace last 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.699 year. Proven guy, pitched extremely well last 00:39:07.699 --> 00:39:10.900 year when we needed him too. And Garry Cole is 00:39:10.900 --> 00:39:13.179 Garry Cole. I have no worries about Garry Cole 00:39:13.179 --> 00:39:17.059 coming back. He may get that, you know, that 00:39:17.059 --> 00:39:19.099 normal phenomenon with those kinds of surgeries 00:39:19.099 --> 00:39:22.340 where he ticks up his VELO for a year. We'll 00:39:22.340 --> 00:39:26.079 see. He's debuted in a new windup and has one 00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.880 inning of work. He threw very well. And then 00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.389 of course, You know, we have young guys, you 00:39:32.389 --> 00:39:35.090 know, maybe Louis Hill. We see him this year. 00:39:35.210 --> 00:39:38.889 You mentioned LaGrange. He's shown to have really 00:39:38.889 --> 00:39:42.130 good stuff in spring training. Insane. His velocity 00:39:42.130 --> 00:39:45.250 is insane. Although today wasn't a great outing 00:39:45.250 --> 00:39:49.989 for him. But Schlitler obviously pitched very 00:39:49.989 --> 00:39:53.969 well for us in the playoffs. Has nasty stuff. 00:39:54.429 --> 00:39:59.929 Another flamethrower for us. Ryan Weathers. We'll 00:39:59.929 --> 00:40:02.150 start as a starter this year. He's kind of an 00:40:02.150 --> 00:40:05.090 X factor guy for us. So I think with all those 00:40:05.090 --> 00:40:07.590 pieces together, I mean, you got, you know, how 00:40:07.590 --> 00:40:10.289 many guys right there? Five to seven guys that 00:40:10.289 --> 00:40:12.829 can really make up a rotation that I think truly 00:40:12.829 --> 00:40:15.630 is the best in the American League, if not the 00:40:15.630 --> 00:40:20.949 MLB. I totally agree. And I think what we just 00:40:20.949 --> 00:40:23.510 talked about is probably the answer to this next 00:40:23.510 --> 00:40:25.670 question I'm going to ask you. But Yankees had 00:40:25.670 --> 00:40:27.570 a league best record coming out of the All -Star 00:40:27.570 --> 00:40:30.829 break last year. Um, they of course fizzled in 00:40:30.829 --> 00:40:33.289 the postseason, much to our chagrin, which has 00:40:33.289 --> 00:40:35.789 been the case under Aaron Boone, like this team 00:40:35.789 --> 00:40:39.150 has a really clear ceiling. What if anything 00:40:39.150 --> 00:40:43.289 gets them over the postseason hump this year? 00:40:43.969 --> 00:40:47.889 It's using that young depth. I mean, we, we've 00:40:47.889 --> 00:40:50.530 always had a really strong farm system and failed 00:40:50.530 --> 00:40:53.170 to use the young depth to our advantage. You 00:40:53.170 --> 00:40:56.070 see these teams that go very far of a year. I'll 00:40:56.070 --> 00:40:58.969 use last year, for example, the Blue Jays, the 00:40:58.969 --> 00:41:03.030 Dodgers. These are all teams with deep benches 00:41:03.030 --> 00:41:05.630 and depth that they use to their advantage. They 00:41:05.630 --> 00:41:08.550 use them in games where these guys have good 00:41:08.550 --> 00:41:12.590 splits against certain pitchers. They may run 00:41:12.590 --> 00:41:14.889 better and they use them in certain scenarios. 00:41:15.590 --> 00:41:18.369 They use their depth. That's where I think we've 00:41:18.369 --> 00:41:20.909 fallen short on. I think we're very held back 00:41:20.909 --> 00:41:23.489 on using certain people and tried forcing them 00:41:23.489 --> 00:41:25.909 and forcing them until we're forced to not use 00:41:25.909 --> 00:41:29.889 them anymore. It's using our young depth. I'd 00:41:29.889 --> 00:41:33.030 like to see Lagrange get a chance this year in 00:41:33.030 --> 00:41:37.570 some sort of role. I think Heal is still a good 00:41:37.570 --> 00:41:42.010 pitcher. I'd love to see Dominguez get another 00:41:42.010 --> 00:41:46.309 shot in the majors. So maybe we'll see Spencer 00:41:46.309 --> 00:41:48.030 Jones this year if we have some injuries, who 00:41:48.030 --> 00:41:52.059 knows. dude it's using that depth and i i think 00:41:52.059 --> 00:41:56.800 it's getting away from kind of really relying 00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:58.880 on that veteran presence that of course is great 00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:03.059 to have but you know the game is speeding up 00:42:03.059 --> 00:42:06.380 real fast and these veterans who have been around 00:42:06.380 --> 00:42:08.579 for a while it's going to pass them right by 00:42:08.579 --> 00:42:12.800 so um i think utilizing that can can certainly 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:16.659 give us get us over that hump 100%. And this 00:42:16.659 --> 00:42:19.059 really dives perfectly into my next question 00:42:19.059 --> 00:42:20.699 for you. It's about the offensive side of the 00:42:20.699 --> 00:42:23.260 ball. You've already mentioned some names and 00:42:23.260 --> 00:42:26.179 Dominguez and Jones that I would love to see 00:42:26.179 --> 00:42:28.739 get a shot in this lineup. But dude, this is 00:42:28.739 --> 00:42:32.219 this conversation about the lineup. has dominated 00:42:32.219 --> 00:42:35.699 maybe the last two years of our Yankees conversations. 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.420 It's an imbalanced offense, right? It's a lot 00:42:38.420 --> 00:42:41.420 of high exit below guys. It's a lot of home run 00:42:41.420 --> 00:42:43.519 sluggers, a lot of bodybuilders throughout the 00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.940 course of this. Even a guy like Jess Chisholm, 00:42:46.059 --> 00:42:48.860 the minute he gets into Yankee Stadium, he's 00:42:48.860 --> 00:42:50.559 swinging for that short portion of the field. 00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.340 You know what I mean? So like, this is an offense 00:42:54.340 --> 00:42:57.940 with a clear philosophy, but it is a one dimensional 00:42:57.940 --> 00:43:01.730 philosophy. Is there a trade target that you 00:43:01.730 --> 00:43:04.949 see still out there? Or is there someone like 00:43:04.949 --> 00:43:07.130 you already mentioned in the farm system that 00:43:07.130 --> 00:43:10.150 you could see come up and really bring some balance 00:43:10.150 --> 00:43:14.210 and some some lethality to this offense? Yeah, 00:43:14.210 --> 00:43:17.429 I think I don't think it's trade so much as it's 00:43:17.429 --> 00:43:19.710 again, using these young guys we have in the 00:43:19.710 --> 00:43:22.590 farm system. And we've talked about this before. 00:43:22.809 --> 00:43:26.329 We're notorious for blocking out our our young 00:43:26.329 --> 00:43:29.889 guys who have a chance to come and crack The 00:43:29.889 --> 00:43:34.510 major league roster and provide a spark to our 00:43:34.510 --> 00:43:39.630 kind of aging major league roster. And what the 00:43:39.630 --> 00:43:43.670 offense, I think it's getting back to a kind 00:43:43.670 --> 00:43:47.949 of slower pace and slower approach at the plate. 00:43:48.250 --> 00:43:51.090 Meaning, you know, maybe capitalize on those 00:43:51.090 --> 00:43:53.929 walks more. You see the Blue Jays capitalize 00:43:53.929 --> 00:43:56.949 on walks. I mean, they're a phenomenal team at 00:43:56.949 --> 00:43:59.539 taking what they get. Yes. Oh my God. Look how 00:43:59.539 --> 00:44:03.159 far I got them last year. Um, you know, obviously 00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:05.519 they use their guys and scenarios that can hit 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.679 home runs and Vlad E. And, you know, obviously 00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.260 George Springer has some pop when Boba shot was 00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:14.119 what that Boba shot has pop. Um, but they weren't 00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:16.599 always trying to force the ball out of the park. 00:44:17.260 --> 00:44:19.219 That's where I think, like you said, we hurt 00:44:19.219 --> 00:44:22.539 ourselves or forcing the ball over the fence. 00:44:22.619 --> 00:44:25.780 And again, I get, we play in a hitters ballpark, 00:44:25.980 --> 00:44:30.130 but at the same time, You know, you wear these 00:44:30.130 --> 00:44:34.389 teams down, you get walks, you get hits after 00:44:34.389 --> 00:44:37.989 hits. You're going to get starters out in four 00:44:37.989 --> 00:44:41.230 innings, five innings, because as we see now 00:44:41.230 --> 00:44:44.150 in the game of Major League Baseball, nobody's 00:44:44.150 --> 00:44:46.849 really racking up the pitches anymore. It's a 00:44:46.849 --> 00:44:50.730 long season. And a lot of these teams, especially 00:44:50.730 --> 00:44:52.489 these teams that have playoff hopes, they're 00:44:52.489 --> 00:44:54.869 not pitching their guys very deep when they don't 00:44:54.869 --> 00:44:57.789 need to. Um, so if you get on them quick, you 00:44:57.789 --> 00:45:01.630 force those, you know, long at bats, those high 00:45:01.630 --> 00:45:04.190 pitch count at bats, you're, you're going to 00:45:04.190 --> 00:45:05.590 get those guys out of the game. You're going 00:45:05.590 --> 00:45:08.489 to, you're going to get more runs, maybe develop 00:45:08.489 --> 00:45:10.789 more hits, put guys in better scenarios to hit. 00:45:11.130 --> 00:45:13.789 Um, that's what I think we haven't done. You 00:45:13.789 --> 00:45:16.289 know, we're, we're going up there with nobody 00:45:16.289 --> 00:45:18.789 on base. We're trying to get a spark to happen 00:45:18.789 --> 00:45:23.409 and it doesn't, you know, so, um, and I think. 00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:26.599 I had mentioned a minute ago using those young 00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:29.579 guys. I think we have good depth. I think when 00:45:29.579 --> 00:45:31.920 we talked about this, you know, in the past, 00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:34.019 we have one of the deepest bunches we've had 00:45:34.019 --> 00:45:38.059 in years. But using that bunch is a whole other 00:45:38.059 --> 00:45:39.840 thing. You can have a deep punch, but you have 00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.320 to use it. And it goes back to my previous point 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:47.500 to using it like these other teams to our advantage. 00:45:48.900 --> 00:45:51.619 And I think guys like Dominguez, Jones can provide 00:45:51.619 --> 00:45:54.489 a spark to this. this lineup that might be needed, 00:45:54.650 --> 00:45:58.010 whether it's speed, Jones providing a little 00:45:58.010 --> 00:46:01.070 power here and there, because as we all know, 00:46:01.250 --> 00:46:04.789 Stan's elbows are turning to dust, as we speak. 00:46:06.050 --> 00:46:09.190 So, maybe being that DH guy and taking over that 00:46:09.190 --> 00:46:13.170 role for Stan. Yes, please. There's a lot of 00:46:13.170 --> 00:46:16.130 different scenarios we could go, but I think 00:46:16.130 --> 00:46:18.730 again, using those young guys can really help 00:46:18.730 --> 00:46:21.429 us. Yeah, something that the Yankees have seen 00:46:21.429 --> 00:46:24.789 seem so allergic to right over the past. I mean, 00:46:24.789 --> 00:46:26.489 at least during Boone's tenure, and I don't know 00:46:26.489 --> 00:46:28.090 if it's a Cashman thing. I don't know if it's 00:46:28.090 --> 00:46:30.429 a Boone thing. The way they yo -yo these kids 00:46:30.429 --> 00:46:32.849 from the farm system to the majors and then back. 00:46:33.269 --> 00:46:36.630 So, I mean, Spencer Jones has nothing left to 00:46:36.630 --> 00:46:38.750 prove in AAA, as far as I'm concerned, right? 00:46:38.969 --> 00:46:41.210 There is no developmental benefit to him still 00:46:41.210 --> 00:46:43.789 being there. Let's like Jason Dominguez, same 00:46:43.789 --> 00:46:45.869 thing. Let's just get these guys up and let's 00:46:45.869 --> 00:46:49.059 see what they do, right? if they end up being 00:46:49.059 --> 00:46:51.079 busts, it is what it is. You're the Yankees. 00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.739 You're not devoid of resources, trade or free 00:46:53.739 --> 00:46:56.639 agency to be able to fill a hole if the farm 00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:58.900 system if the farm system prospect doesn't pan 00:46:58.900 --> 00:47:01.599 out. I just trust me nuts. Trust me nuts. It 00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.400 just drives me crazy. Okay. I get more amped 00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.179 up talking about the Yankees with you than I 00:47:07.179 --> 00:47:09.019 ever get amped up talking about the Bills, right? 00:47:09.099 --> 00:47:11.280 The Bills is more like a, the Bills is because 00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.500 we've never won anything as Bills fans, right? 00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.159 So it's like, oh man, shucks. It sure would be 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:19.780 nice. Here we are again. The Yankees, I have 00:47:19.780 --> 00:47:23.460 been, I have been raised on excellence and I 00:47:23.460 --> 00:47:26.300 haven't seen the excellence in a long time, Logan. 00:47:27.139 --> 00:47:29.570 All right. Speaking of excellence. The Dodgers 00:47:29.570 --> 00:47:32.010 exist. And we just have, we just had this great 00:47:32.010 --> 00:47:34.909 conversation about, uh, how the Yankees can compete, 00:47:34.969 --> 00:47:37.750 how they can get over the hump. Should the Yankees 00:47:37.750 --> 00:47:39.469 make the world series? Is any of it going to 00:47:39.469 --> 00:47:41.750 matter? Is anyone in the, is everyone in the 00:47:41.750 --> 00:47:43.849 AL basically just paying to lose to the Dodgers 00:47:43.849 --> 00:47:47.630 this year? I don't think so. And, and you know, 00:47:47.630 --> 00:47:48.989 this is the reference I was talking about earlier. 00:47:49.030 --> 00:47:50.750 I know everyone kind of looks at the Dodgers 00:47:50.750 --> 00:47:53.550 like the Avengers and baseball uniforms. Um, 00:47:53.869 --> 00:47:58.150 but it's a long season. Nobody knows what anyone's 00:47:58.150 --> 00:48:01.010 going to look like at the end of the year. I 00:48:01.010 --> 00:48:02.889 mean, we know that very well with the injuries 00:48:02.889 --> 00:48:05.969 we see to our pitching rotation year in and year 00:48:05.969 --> 00:48:08.369 out. It seems like for the past couple of years, 00:48:08.369 --> 00:48:10.630 nobody knows what the Dodgers are going to look 00:48:10.630 --> 00:48:13.309 like. And although they're a very good team on 00:48:13.309 --> 00:48:17.750 paper, baseball is a crazy game. Anyone can win 00:48:17.750 --> 00:48:20.670 on any given day. And the seven game series is 00:48:20.670 --> 00:48:26.750 a very long series. So I don't. I entirely think 00:48:26.750 --> 00:48:31.929 everyone's playing to lose to the Dodgers. Hell, 00:48:31.949 --> 00:48:33.570 I'd love to see us get back in the World Series 00:48:33.570 --> 00:48:36.590 against the Dodgers and get some redemption for 00:48:36.590 --> 00:48:39.769 a couple of years ago and take the World Series 00:48:39.769 --> 00:48:43.769 from them. I think it'll be an exciting year. 00:48:45.170 --> 00:48:47.690 Again, I think anyone can win on any given day. 00:48:48.329 --> 00:48:51.690 Of course, I hope it's our Yankees all the way 00:48:51.690 --> 00:48:54.210 in October at the very end hosting that trophy. 00:48:54.940 --> 00:48:58.119 Dude, you want all the smoke from LA. I really 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.239 appreciate that. Really appreciate that. I'm 00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.300 not as confident as you, but I'm not gonna I'm 00:49:04.300 --> 00:49:07.340 not gonna ruin the fierceness of your take with 00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:09.840 my with my own anxiety about whether or not the 00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:12.619 Yankees can beat the Dodgers. All right. Hopefully, 00:49:12.619 --> 00:49:14.559 for those of you that are still with us, this 00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.460 was a painless baseball conversation. We've got 00:49:17.460 --> 00:49:20.519 one more question for you, Logan. Final record 00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:23.219 prediction and where does the season end this 00:49:23.219 --> 00:49:26.699 year for the Yankees? Final record prediction. 00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:29.800 And I think you're going to be shocked by this. 00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:36.480 103 and 59. What? Really? Okay. All right. I 00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.800 from from the strength of the pitching, I totally 00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:43.780 get that. But like, that's a 103 wins is significant 00:49:43.780 --> 00:49:47.019 now. All right. But let's play that out. So still 00:49:47.019 --> 00:49:48.840 a relatively unbalanced schedule. So we're going 00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:54.199 to play a lot of the AL East and it. Boston improved, 00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:56.579 but doesn't scare me. Baltimore probably taking 00:49:56.579 --> 00:49:58.980 a step back. Toronto still legit competition. 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:01.880 And then Tampa Bay, you just, who knows from 00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.340 year to year, right? With them. Like, yes. So 00:50:05.340 --> 00:50:09.000 I could definitely see a positive record within 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:14.320 the division. 103, man. Okay. All right. I could 00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:15.960 get on that. I was thinking you were going to 00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.780 go more like You know, 98 wins, maybe 99, but 00:50:19.780 --> 00:50:23.300 103 is a very strong take. Tell me what's behind 00:50:23.300 --> 00:50:24.840 that, right? Why do you think they're going to 00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:27.480 cross the century mark this year? I think again, 00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.639 it goes back to, you know, although we have a 00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:33.320 conversation about our offense and being kind 00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:35.679 of one dimensional, I think again, having the 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.599 depth that we have this year and hoping that 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.780 Boone and whoever he's listening to in the back 00:50:40.780 --> 00:50:43.739 end play their cards right. I think this offense 00:50:43.739 --> 00:50:47.880 can be a problem. I'm hoping Boone kind of wakes 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:49.840 up a little bit with some of these combinations 00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:51.900 I'm hearing. He's going with, you know, J .C. 00:50:51.980 --> 00:50:54.179 Escara crack in the major league lineup and, 00:50:54.179 --> 00:50:58.159 you know, things like that. Of course, you know, 00:50:58.260 --> 00:51:01.500 raise some question marks for me. But then again, 00:51:01.500 --> 00:51:04.480 I think we got the pieces to make lineups day 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.079 in and day out, depending on the pitching that 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:09.719 can excel. And I think they excelled last year. 00:51:10.699 --> 00:51:14.409 And with the pitching. Don't know who competes 00:51:14.409 --> 00:51:16.289 with our pitching fully healthy and it's gonna 00:51:16.289 --> 00:51:20.210 get really quick It's not a it's not a all -star 00:51:20.210 --> 00:51:22.750 break. We're waiting for to get fully healthy 00:51:22.750 --> 00:51:25.730 I mean we're talking one one and a half months 00:51:25.730 --> 00:51:29.809 and we're rolling with an insane pitching lineup 00:51:29.809 --> 00:51:34.289 Yes, and you know Again, my biggest worry like 00:51:34.289 --> 00:51:35.869 ever you with the Yankees because it seems to 00:51:35.869 --> 00:51:39.110 be our our trend is when we hit that 20 game 00:51:39.110 --> 00:51:43.900 You know skid of for five and 15 and 20 games. 00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:46.800 It happens to every team. I hope it doesn't happen 00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:50.340 to us, but that's my biggest worry. But I think 00:51:50.340 --> 00:51:52.980 we can get there. I think, like you mentioned, 00:51:53.099 --> 00:51:59.139 the Blue Jays are a talented team. But they don't 00:51:59.139 --> 00:52:01.320 terrify me to where we can't compete with them. 00:52:01.340 --> 00:52:03.519 For sure. We were competing with them for the 00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:07.099 division last year. The Red Sox, I think they 00:52:07.099 --> 00:52:09.099 did get better, of course. I think they filled 00:52:09.099 --> 00:52:11.980 some holes they needed to. I don't think they 00:52:11.980 --> 00:52:15.880 filled holes enough to really scare me and threaten 00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:19.019 the Yankees for number two or number one in the 00:52:19.019 --> 00:52:23.659 division. And then the Orioles don't scare me. 00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:29.039 And the Rays might as well put them in AAA. Listen, 00:52:29.260 --> 00:52:31.159 but those are the years the Rays are the most 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:35.230 dangerous. We both know this. Yeah. And you know, 00:52:35.309 --> 00:52:38.429 I think the rest of the American League is talented. 00:52:38.650 --> 00:52:42.210 The Tigers are always making a splash. The Royals 00:52:42.210 --> 00:52:45.909 seem to regress after their run in the playoffs. 00:52:47.409 --> 00:52:50.269 The Guardians are always there somehow in the 00:52:50.269 --> 00:52:54.329 playoffs every year. So we'll see. But I think 00:52:54.329 --> 00:52:59.110 this is our deepest lineup in a few years. And 00:52:59.110 --> 00:53:01.710 I think if we play our cards right, game in and 00:53:01.710 --> 00:53:04.070 game out, week in and week out, I think... we 00:53:04.070 --> 00:53:06.210 can put up good numbers when it comes to the 00:53:06.210 --> 00:53:08.349 record. And I think we can go deep in playoffs. 00:53:08.610 --> 00:53:12.329 And as Ryan Cashman said it, I think we can run 00:53:12.329 --> 00:53:14.409 it back. And I think this time we can win it. 00:53:14.909 --> 00:53:18.670 Nice. Nice. The pitching, pitching for sure gives 00:53:18.670 --> 00:53:22.250 me hope, man. Yeah. Love the takes. I love the 00:53:22.250 --> 00:53:25.050 fact that we got football and baseball in here. 00:53:25.469 --> 00:53:29.500 JJ, if you are still listening to this pod. Come 00:53:29.500 --> 00:53:31.059 on, you got to tell me you didn't love that man. 00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:32.960 We got to do that more often on the pod, JJ. 00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:36.559 All right, listen, Logan, thank you for go go 00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:38.840 on the extra mile, not just talking about football, 00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:40.980 bringing a little baseball little Yankees chat 00:53:40.980 --> 00:53:43.599 into it. We appreciate the versatility that you 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.320 brought. And of course, your strong clear takes 00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:48.679 for both New York teams and the Giants and the 00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:51.920 Yankees. We'll have you back on at some point 00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:54.059 to revisit kind of where things are at with your 00:53:54.059 --> 00:53:56.880 GMAT. 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