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Welcome back, Bills Mafia, to the Buffalo Bread

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Podcast. I am your host, Dan Roberts, and it

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is an annual tradition unlike any other. Friends

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of the pod, not friends of the Bills. Our annual

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off -season riffs with some of our closest friends,

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some of our biggest rivals when it comes to the

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AFC East, and just some of our favorite hosts

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to pod with as well. Today we are diving into

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the Miami Dolphins. Recap of their 2025 season.

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and a little bit of Hopium, a little bit of a

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preview for their 2026 season as well. We're

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joined by resident Dolphins expert, Steve Nepp.

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Steve, how are you doing today, sir? You know,

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the bills for the therapy session are adding

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up pretty good, but for sure, I have some good

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insurance to help offset that cost. Health care

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is so important when you're a football fan. Absolutely.

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I don't think people understand, right? After

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the bills lost to the Broncos, my wife was like,

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how long is this going to be? it's gonna take

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some time and a lot of therapy sessions, right?

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So yes, it's a well -known fact that our mental

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health is dictated by millionaire 24 and 25 -year

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-olds for a good eight months out of the year,

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right? But here we are. We are reclaiming the

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cycle here. We are into off -season mode. And

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usually, Steve, with off -season mode, there

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comes a little bit of hope, right? Given some

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of the recent news that we've seen around the

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Dolphins, some of the roster moves that they've

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made, some of the dead -cap situation they're

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dealing with, with. It feels like they are intentionally

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building something. It just may not be something

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that is realized in the short term. But we're

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going to dig into all that here as we talk about

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2026. Before we get there, let's go on our time

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machine, sir. Let's talk a little bit about 2025.

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I said at the beginning of the season, and you

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said in your preview for last year, this was

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like... the highest variance team in the entire

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AFC East. It could go either way. This is a team

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that could win 11 games. This is a team that

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could lose 11 games. And they finished more towards

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the latter than anything else last season, right?

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A career -gone midseason, your longtime GM. Daniel

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fired after the season, after some trials and

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tribulations about whether or not he would be.

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And then a whole roster makeover, now that you've

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got John Eric Sullivan in as your new GM, and

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Jeff Halfley as your new head coach. A lot of

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Green Bay DNA here. uh, coming over the organization

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and this roster build. So Tua, who we're going

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to get into in a little bit, gone, released,

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uh, designated as post one, uh, post June one

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release, which means his dead cap hit of $99

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million will be spread over two years. Hill gone,

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Waddle traded, I don't want to think it was a

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little bit of a surprise. And then Minka Fitzpatrick

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also gone. Um, Bradley Chubb out the door to

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the Buffalo Bills, which we'll talk about in

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a little bit too. This feels like, even though

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this has been a lot of pain, And I'm sure the

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fan base is kind of reeling right now because.

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every player that they have built a relationship

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with over the past few years, it feels like they're

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probably gone, right? And this is legitimately,

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other than Devon Achan, this seems like a pretty

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solid roster restart here. But it also seems

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like your front office is clear -eyed here. So

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Steve, before we get to everything that's happened

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here in the recent past, let's go through 2025.

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Let's kick this thing off on a positive note.

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And then we can do the couch sessions for later

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on. Talk to us, Steve, a little bit about 2025,

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right? It was a rough season as we have recap

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for the fans, but not every football season is

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lost. This is something that Bill's fans know

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very much so through the drought. You got to

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take the positive where you can get it, right?

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2025, what were some of your key highlights from

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that season? You know, perhaps a little tongue

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in cheek, but when Steve and Ross finally decided

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that it was time to let Chris Geert... Chris...

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Greer go. That was that was a highlight. Something

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that was just based off of the season. It was

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a long time coming. The signings giving out,

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you know, the new contracts and typically, you

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know, he wasn't the best drafter. either. He

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had that reputation amongst the Dolphins fans.

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I'm getting into baseball mode here already.

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Dude, I feel you. Yankee season is upon us. I

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mean, honestly, the highlight was probably weak

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and how fitting right at home against Buffalo.

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I knew this was coming. You know, sure, a little

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moral win right there. It is, you know, it kind

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of is what it is when you look at the season

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as a whole. You know, it started out rough week

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one. That loss to Indianapolis just, we looked

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flat. We didn't look motivated. Hua looked like

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he was still in Miami, you know, on Miami Beach

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somewhere. You know, and it didn't get any better,

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you know, against the England Buffalo. Barely

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beat out a win against the Jets. So, like, it

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was just this... It was just a very bad start

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to the season. The end of the season, I mean,

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you know, typical whenever a key coach or executive

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is let go of the position, magically, you know,

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things are starting to turn around a little bit.

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After Greer was let go, they rattled off, I think

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it was four wins in a row. That kind of salvaged

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a little bit of the season. Yeah, that was kind

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of it. You know, in a nutshell, A -chan, I mean,

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you know, he's the guy now, you know, whenever

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it comes to our offense. And so we'll see what

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goes coming into 2026. eight -man boxes on 98

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% of his runs over or under. I'm going to take

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the over. 100%. 100%. You guys are going to see

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so much man coverage this year. It's going to

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be wild. Yes. It's going to be wild. Oh my God.

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It's interesting. Well, first off, week 10. Let

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me tell you, that was so painful. I had such

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a hard time with that. We had our first viral

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social media moment on the pod, too. I don't

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know if you're aware of this or not. So I run

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our social media accounts and I had posted on

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Instagram. Do you remember the last time the

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bills beat? The Dolphins beat the Bills. It was

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when Ken Dorsey was still OC. It was that big

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heat game, right? Like all the injuries because

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of heat exhaustion. And there was that viral

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clip from a few years ago of when Dorsey was

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slamming his laptop down and throwing it, right?

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So I uploaded that as a meme and I gave it the

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header the last time the Dolphins beat the Bills,

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right? And I put what I would call a soliloquy

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defending Josh Allen and his performance. in

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that Miami game, because I'm like, listen, dude

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was the only one doing anything. And it literally

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went viral. We got over a million views. We got

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thousands of likes, hundreds of comments on that

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post. That's amazing. Dude, like two dads from

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upstate New York, right? And we own the internet

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for oh, what a glorious short few moments, you

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know? So a little bittersweet that week 10 game,

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because yes, your team got the win. And JJ and

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I were mired in grief and despair, but we got

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a fun little social media moment out of it for

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the pot. So it all equalized. It was all good.

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It was all good. And credit to, you mentioned

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the four -week win streak, or four -game win

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streak, credit to McDaniel for letting this team

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not quit on him. But I think Sneaky and Baltimore

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fans, this is a little hope for you guys too,

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as you go through your own off -season or transition.

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Anthony Weaver, like, Scotch taping, MacGyvering

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that defense together week after week and getting

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the absolute best out of relative nobodies. You

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know what I mean? Especially after the Phillips

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trade. Anthony Weaver, man, hell of a coaching

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job. Definitely deserve more recognition for

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even though it was in many losing efforts for

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what he was able to piece together with that

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defense. Baltimore's got a real one, man. They

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got a real one coming in as I see here. Yeah.

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Yep. Absolutely. Cool. All right. That's 2025.

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You guys have already made some moves here in

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the new league year 27. Lots of activity for

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you guys. You've got a new GM has wasted no time

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putting his stamp on this roster. We've already

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mentioned the big three, Hill, Waddle, and, and

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Tua, gone. Chubb gone, Fitzpatrick gone. And

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it looks like other than some depth ads, they're

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really standing pat right now. And they're waiting

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for the draft, which we'll talk about in a little

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bit. So. Talk to me a little bit. I want to approach

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this as a two -parter. First, what do you think

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about these moves? Like, what does it read the

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tea leaves for us as Bills fans that are not

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well -versed in the ways of Miami? Like, what

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do these moves tell you about what leadership

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wants to build in Miami? But then also, what

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does it tell you a little bit about the timeline?

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Like, how long is this thing going to take, do

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you think? Yeah. So let's go back to probably

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a month or so ago, the introductions of Sully

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and... Jeff Haffley. And kind of, you know, the

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tone was very different than when Miami Mike

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arrived. And just Stephen Ross owned the mistakes

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of the past. The GM search where he, you know,

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brought in, you know, recognized people. I mean,

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Troy Aikman kind of led the charge with that.

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Dan Marino was a part of that process as well.

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And they got two guys from an organization that

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year over year, year after year, they just seemed

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to always make the right moves at the right time.

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They draft the right guys, they develop the right

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guys, and they make smart trades and smart contracts,

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right? So I think Hopefully, you know, that page

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has turned with Stephen Ross where like, you

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know, the party at South Beach is over. You know,

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it's time to get to work now. It only took, you

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know, 15 years for that to happen or a little

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bit longer. So looking into 2026, yeah, it's

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going to be rough. You know, there's no denying

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it. We knew that the moment 2O was benched, you

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know, at the end of the year. And what I've appreciated

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is that, you know, it's kind of like, we're not

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going to, we're going to just do it, you know,

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in for a penny, in for a pound, right? We're

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just going to rip the bandaid off. We're going

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to do it. Uh, 2026 is going to stink, but you

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know what? Seven, uh, we're going to, you know,

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hopefully start to compete again. The Packers

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do it through the draft. We brought in Packers

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guys, you know, guess what? We're going to do

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it through the draft. We have, what was it? 11

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picks this year. It wasn't that. Well, isn't

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that long ago with after the tampering fines

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hit, I think we had like three brutal. Yeah.

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You guys went through a brutal stretch with the

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McDaniel. And so like that just tells you the

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vision of the new GM new head coach. We're going

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to build from the ground up. We're not going

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to bring in the flashy free agents. And as I

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thought more about all of these guys coming in

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on one -year, two -year deals is a lot of these

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guys, they're on perfect contracts. They've been

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the guys that have kind of been wide receiver

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three or on the depth chart. They weren't necessarily

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all the number one guys. And so a lot of these

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guys are hungry. And when you're hungry or dangerous,

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you know, we're seeing that, you know, March

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Madness just started, right? You get these hungry

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teams. And so I'm kind of excited for that. You

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know, you have a bunch of hungry guys on private

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contracts might surprise some people. I love

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that take, dude. And you're very apt to bring

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up the draft because Green Bay is a drafting

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organization. They've never relied a ton on free

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agency, right? This feels like a lunch pail crew,

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which is interesting for the setting and the

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scene in Miami where Where I'll depart with you

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a little bit. I don't think the party ever stops

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in South Beach So it's interesting to bring in

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some cold weather Green Bay guys, right? That

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like and then half Lee with a stint before up

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in the Northeast at Boston College You know what

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I mean? Like it's is interesting that this is

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the crew that you bring in it really does feel

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like the desire for a tonal shift and I mean

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I mean, listen to like Finns fans, you guys are

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hamstrung right now. Like you're taking a lot

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of dead cap medicine, I think to the tune of

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what, $175 million or something like that. It's

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something massive. You're paying a lot of guys

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to not play for you. But watch those guarantees

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from the books, partly in 27, but then by 28.

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And then when you look at the draft capital you've

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accumulated for 26 and 27, by the time you guys

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get to 28, the idea is going to be you're going

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to have some seasoned two and three year players

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still on rookie deals and you'll be able to make

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some splashes. Exactly. It's a longer term vision,

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I think, than NFL fans are used to. But to your

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point too, like, you catch lightning in a bottle,

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you get some of the right mix of, like, guys

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on Prove It deals, you hit on some of these seven

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draft picks in the top 100 picks you have this

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year. You guys could mix it up and make it interesting.

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Weirder things have happened. Before we get to

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the draft, because I'm dying to know your take

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on that, were there any surprises to you? something

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that kind of caught you off guard about maybe

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one of the free agent moves, guys that got moved,

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maybe guys that are still on the roster, right?

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Like HN, I think. People have inquired about

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him, but that's where the dolphins apparently

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are drawing the red line in the sand. Like you

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cannot have this kid, right? So anything that

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surprised you about guys they moved, brought

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in, or maybe didn't move. So then I said to my

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friends, I said the waddle trade hurt. I felt

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that for you guys. Of all the guys that were

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released or traded. So far that waddle trade

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was pretty rough. It's kind of like whatever

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the new vision is for the system for offense,

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but not having Alec Ingold, you know, he's kind

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of the tough guy in the trenches, you know, willing

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to like just block a guy if you need to for the

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quarterback. He was a leader on and off the field.

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I think those two, those two guys kind of hurt

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me the most to see them go. Surprises for signing

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so far, I mean, certainly surprising, but not

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surprising. The Malik Willis signing, you know,

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not surprising. He came from Green Bay, you know?

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And so there's that, there's a, for me, there's

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a level of calm that comes with that. An assurance,

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like, all right. We have guys who came from Green

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Bay. They're bringing a Green Bay quarterback

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with them. And let's look at the past history

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of Green Bay quarterback so far. Now granted,

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he wasn't a homegrown guy. You know, they got

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him from Tennessee. But like when Favre developed

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Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers to develop Jordan

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Love. You know, Jordan Love to develop Malik

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Willis, perhaps. You know, and so with him coming

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down, let's see what we got. So I'm hopeful for

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him as well. Nice. Can I tell you, I appreciate

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all those takes. The one I appreciate the most

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is you calling out Engold, because we just lost

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Reggie Gilliam. How fun is it to be football

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sickos like we are, where we lament the loss

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of a fullback in this day and age? You know what

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I mean? It's so cool to be us, man. It's so good.

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is for sure a real one. And you guys, HN in particular

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is going to feel that loss, definitely, without

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a doubt. But no, man, all the way across the

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board, I think you've balanced all this with

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the right amount of, like, pain and sorrow at

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the Ingold and Waddle losses. The Willis signing

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is interesting, like, because when he signed,

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you still had Jill and Waddle, right? And I'm

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like, okay, I could see this working because

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of the weapons, like, this offensive system they're

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likely going to install in Miami. Waddle with

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Malik Washington, who's a little bit of a gadgety

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guy, but you use one of your draft picks in a

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very deep wide receiver class. And I could see

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that wide receiver core being serviceable with

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a decent top two, top three, right? Figure out

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tight end, you know, at some other way. But now

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with Waddle gone, you're really asking Malik

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Willis to, like, just steady the ship and play

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competent football until they can really build

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out this roster around him a little bit, yes.

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Yeah. But I'll tell you what. I'm kind of excited

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about the Jalen Tolbert signing. I think, you

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know, he's again one of those wide receiver guys

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came from the Cowboys. He filled in whenever

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his CD got hurt. And I'll tell you what, I liked

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what I saw in those couple of games he was playing

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for him. And so I'm kind of excited for that

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one. I think you got like, it's so, you never

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write anybody off before. game start, you know

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what I mean? I mean, going back to the Flores

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days and the whole tank for two a thing, Flores

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had his issues as a head coach, but he really

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was able to extract the absolute best out of

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that roster and overachieved in a lot of ways.

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Listen, weirder things have happened. We just

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watched, sorry, Brandon, we just watched maybe

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the most flawed team in recent memory, easily

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in the last 25 years in the New England Patriots,

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make a Super Bowl run. Yes. Drake may as good,

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Patriots fans, please don't come at me and my

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mentions. He is the chosen one, whatever. He's

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good, right? But he wasn't as good as maybe some

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of the regular season play indicated. I think

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we saw that in the postseason where the competition

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got stiffer. But they just had a mix of good

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play, not great play a lot of times, but good

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play, the right schedule, but then also a lot

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of things kind of go their way, right? We've

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seen weirder things happen, man. So never write

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off a team until they start playing the games.

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Yes, absolutely. Perhaps that was kind of like

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their Cinderella run. I don't know. The Patriots

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of Cinderella. Oh, my God. What a horrible, ugly

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Cinderella. Yes, absolutely. Terrible. The clock

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cannot turn midnight fast enough on those T's.

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This is incredible. We've got the fairy tale

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references going. Listen, this is the first part

00:18:42.609 --> 00:18:44.970
of season six. We are cranking on all cylinders,

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folks. We're here for it. All right, man. Let's

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talk about the draft, right? Because as you said,

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this is where this team is going to get built

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this year and in the future. A mind blowing.

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Seven picks in the top hundred. I'm going to

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rattle them off because I'm jealous of this draft

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capital. 11, 30, 43, 75, 87, 90, and then 94.

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This is an embarrassment of riches, right? And

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this is a deep draft at a lot of positions. Like

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I've heard a lot of draft folks say like, hey,

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there's no like blue chippers. There's no Micah

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Parsons. There's no generational guys. And I

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will concede that point, but man. It is just

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deep with a lot of guys that are going to be

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starters, maybe stars. Yeah, they may not be

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that Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Michael Parsons,

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like Dexter Lawrence type. But man, you got some

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guys that are going to be very reliable, that

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are going to be building blocks for rosters.

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You guys also have a lot of needs, right? So

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break it down for us. What are the top positions

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that you think the Dolphins should be targeting

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in this year's draft with this bevy of capital?

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Yeah, all of the above. All the positions. All

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the positions, yeah. You know, I said it last

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year, this time, this time, this time last year,

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the trenches, you know, again, you know, we lost

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Bradley Chubb, Chop Robinson has kind of, I won't

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say regressed, but he didn't develop like I thought

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he might year two. And so, yeah, gotta... Got

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to win the trenches. And again, Green Bay has

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that talent of having a good line on both sides.

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They're not necessarily always going to be all

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pro bowlers, but you know what? If you get one

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or two, you're doing pretty good. And so that's

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kind of where I would focus. At least a couple

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of those picks is you got to figure out your

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line. Wide receiver. You know, if the right guy's

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at the right spot at the right time, draft a

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wide receiver, you know. And then our secondary

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as well, you know, just a couple right guys.

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I mean, we just traded Minka Fitzpatrick, you

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know, to the Jets. And so, again, if the right

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guy's at the right spot, draft them. And that's

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really what it's going to come down to. I don't

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know that there's any, you know, like we have

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to absolutely at the 11th pick take. this type

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of guy at this position. It's who's the best

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available with what we need, you know, kind of

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what's in front of you. It's BPA straight down

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the board for you guys, right? Yeah. Because

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chances are that best player available is going

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to fit a positional need that you guys have,

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right? Right. Do you think, do you think you

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guys take a flyer on a QB here? Like I've seen

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the Ty Simpson kid, if he makes it all the way

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to 30, which I don't think he will. I think some

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full team is going to talk themselves into drafting

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him earlier. But like if Ty Simpson from Alabama

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makes it all the way down to 30, right? Do you

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guys take a flyer on the kid or like, are you

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waiting for 27 when that QB class is going to

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be deeper? You know, I mean, you just signed

00:21:54.779 --> 00:21:57.500
Malik Willis. You have Quinn Ewers there who,

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for all intents and purposes, was serviceable,

00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:03.200
right? As a rookie. Yes. Couldn't really ask

00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:06.400
for a whole lot from him, just given the circumstances.

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You know, and so, again, kind of if he's there,

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he's the best available out of all your other

00:22:13.220 --> 00:22:16.779
needs, then all right, why not? But if you feel

00:22:16.779 --> 00:22:19.200
good about Malik Willis... You like what you're

00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:21.900
seeing so far. You have faith in Quinn Ewers

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as a number two option. You know, I say that

00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:26.640
as if Malik Willis has already got the starting

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job. He probably does. They paid him starter

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money, right? Right. Then maybe you wait until

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a little bit later in the draft. Maybe that 87,

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90, see what's out there type of timing wise.

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Very nice, very nice. Are there any players at

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other positions that you've kind of had your

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eye on yet? I've just started getting into my

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draft prep, so like I'm digging through like

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film and stat packages and combine data and all

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that stuff. Is there anybody you've seen early

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on here in this process that you really want

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to see where the, what is it, turquoise, orange

00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:05.799
and white? And white and a shade of blue at one

00:23:05.799 --> 00:23:10.440
point, I think. Yeah, who do you want to see

00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:12.519
where the fish on their helmet? Right? Who's

00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.039
the guy or two guys? You're really like covet

00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.460
in this year's draft. Yeah, you know, I think

00:23:17.460 --> 00:23:22.279
a lot of people have been talking about Probably

00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:26.559
gonna mispronounce his name Francis Malgoa the

00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.819
offensive tackle out of Miami. Yeah, a lot of

00:23:29.819 --> 00:23:35.140
people have been talking about him To try to

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get him at 11 So, I mean, again, that fills the

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need, you know, number two ranked offensive tackle

00:23:43.619 --> 00:23:46.740
coming into the draft. You know, again, if he's

00:23:46.740 --> 00:23:49.180
there at 11, you feel good about it, take him

00:23:49.180 --> 00:23:52.220
at 11. You know, like, that's just kind of where

00:23:52.220 --> 00:23:55.559
I'm at now with the draft, you know, is who's

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going to be, you know, best available, get it

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done. Yeah, in Sully we trust. We have to. I

00:24:03.180 --> 00:24:05.720
like how you guys are like so close to this GM

00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:09.420
now you're calling him Sully. All right, man.

00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:11.099
Let's land this plane. I got a couple of fun

00:24:11.099 --> 00:24:13.000
ones for you. First off, we got to bring it back

00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.980
to the Bills for a second. We've noted that Bradley

00:24:14.980 --> 00:24:17.759
Chubb, switching teams within the division, giving

00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:20.619
up the warm, sunny beaches of Miami for whatever

00:24:20.619 --> 00:24:22.220
hell this winter is right now in upstate New

00:24:22.220 --> 00:24:23.680
York. I couldn't even begin to tell you what

00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:25.099
we're dealing with right now. It's just nutty

00:24:25.099 --> 00:24:28.259
right now. What are Bill, real quick, what are

00:24:28.259 --> 00:24:31.140
Bill's fans getting in Bradley Chubb here as

00:24:31.140 --> 00:24:33.019
our newest addition to the Ed Trash Room? Yeah,

00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:35.079
so I mean, for me, you know, right off the bat,

00:24:35.099 --> 00:24:37.940
I wouldn't have any worries. I mean, he was out

00:24:37.940 --> 00:24:42.660
all year in 2024 with an injury but he came back

00:24:42.660 --> 00:24:45.980
pretty strong you know last this past season

00:24:45.980 --> 00:24:50.119
I think you're gonna get someone who an offense

00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:53.599
always has to account for him you know he's someone

00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:57.069
that's gonna get you eight to 10, maybe 11, 12

00:24:57.069 --> 00:25:00.289
sacks a year, depending on, um, you know, where

00:25:00.289 --> 00:25:02.470
you're at, you gotta force a couple of fumbles.

00:25:02.690 --> 00:25:06.869
You're just getting a solid, solid guy. Um, that's,

00:25:06.869 --> 00:25:09.509
that's my quick take on him is, you know, like

00:25:09.509 --> 00:25:12.710
I said, average 10 sacks, uh, to me, you know,

00:25:12.809 --> 00:25:17.269
what you saw in 25 is, um, is who to expect.

00:25:18.750 --> 00:25:20.569
Yep, you guys are getting, you're getting a good

00:25:20.569 --> 00:25:22.769
one. Thank you. We hope so. We hope so. We've

00:25:22.769 --> 00:25:24.490
been trying to figure out that position opposite

00:25:24.490 --> 00:25:27.349
of Rousseau for what feels like forever. So hopefully,

00:25:27.509 --> 00:25:29.930
hopefully Bean finally sticks this one. All right.

00:25:30.009 --> 00:25:32.329
So you have a new coach, we have a new coach.

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And I was taking stock of the AFC East with,

00:25:35.269 --> 00:25:37.410
you know, the home of Belichick, you know what

00:25:37.410 --> 00:25:39.349
I mean? The home of like a lot of these long

00:25:39.349 --> 00:25:41.250
-term coaches we're so used to seeing hang around

00:25:41.250 --> 00:25:44.319
for years. In the last 18 months, Every single

00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.539
head coach position in the AFC East has now turned

00:25:46.539 --> 00:25:48.859
over. So we've got a lot of new and slightly

00:25:48.859 --> 00:25:50.759
new faces here in the division. You have a new

00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:53.839
head coach as well. Rank for me all four head

00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:56.920
coaches from first to worst in the division.

00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:59.900
With or without bias? Oh, you can put whatever

00:25:59.900 --> 00:26:01.920
bias in you want. Please, this is a fan podcast.

00:26:02.140 --> 00:26:05.680
There's no objectivity to this. Yep. I'm going

00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:08.240
to give it to Haffley right away. He's my number

00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:12.759
one. Absolutely. Incredible. Yeah. Next, I think

00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:17.180
Mike Blable. How generous of you to put Super

00:26:17.180 --> 00:26:22.400
Mike. It pains me, but I'll give a little bit

00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:25.180
right there. And then Brady and then Glenn. I

00:26:25.180 --> 00:26:27.440
think that's probably... And no shade to Glenn,

00:26:27.740 --> 00:26:30.539
I mean, but it's the Jets. It's the Jets. It's

00:26:30.539 --> 00:26:32.779
the Jets and, you know, we'll talk about this

00:26:32.779 --> 00:26:35.759
with Jared when we get to his pod, but they've

00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:37.759
already turned over that entire coaching staff.

00:26:37.859 --> 00:26:40.200
That's normally the move you make just before

00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:42.700
you get fired. I think they were right to bring

00:26:42.700 --> 00:26:45.279
him back this year even because they just, they

00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:48.000
were dismantling... They were dismantling the

00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.180
plane in New York as they were flying it. No

00:26:50.180 --> 00:26:52.579
pun intended on the chess team. But the roster

00:26:52.579 --> 00:26:55.839
decisions they made, like they were building

00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:58.920
and then deconstructing this thing as the year

00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.400
went on. I don't think Glenn, I don't think he

00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:02.960
can hold Glenn fully accountable for that. I

00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:04.740
think it's reasonable to give him another season.

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But he also didn't acquit himself in the opportunities

00:27:08.859 --> 00:27:12.559
that he had very well either. I go variable and

00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.289
then... I'm a little tempted to say Halfley,

00:27:15.410 --> 00:27:18.009
just because I like his chops as a DC. As a Bills

00:27:18.009 --> 00:27:21.849
fan, I guess I got to go Brady. And then Halfley,

00:27:22.150 --> 00:27:24.230
and then I would kind of, I would put Glenn at

00:27:24.230 --> 00:27:25.890
the bottom as well, just because we've seen a

00:27:25.890 --> 00:27:28.029
year of Glenn. And then with Brady and with Halfley,

00:27:28.130 --> 00:27:30.369
we're totally projecting. Frable for me is like

00:27:30.369 --> 00:27:33.349
the best. The best culture builder in the league.

00:27:33.349 --> 00:27:35.890
He is the best situational game manager in the

00:27:35.890 --> 00:27:38.069
league Like it sucks that he's gonna be sitting

00:27:38.069 --> 00:27:40.390
our revision for the next year. So yeah, that

00:27:40.390 --> 00:27:43.289
one was and I'll say, you know with half Lee

00:27:43.289 --> 00:27:48.170
I Rewatched the press conference not that long

00:27:48.170 --> 00:27:54.970
ago and just the passion and the care Is such

00:27:54.970 --> 00:27:57.230
a polar opposite than what we had with Miami

00:27:57.230 --> 00:28:02.420
Mike And I'm so excited for that, you know, and

00:28:02.420 --> 00:28:04.279
that's kind of maybe again just a little bit

00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:07.660
of bias like he's coming in with purpose with

00:28:07.660 --> 00:28:12.680
a vision And he's serious. So yeah, he's got

00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.660
this like really good energy about him, too Like

00:28:15.660 --> 00:28:17.599
he's one of these dudes who you could see like

00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:19.960
maybe not Ben Johnson level of ripping his shirt

00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.259
off after a win in the locker room post game

00:28:22.259 --> 00:28:25.180
But you know, it's interesting. You've got half

00:28:25.180 --> 00:28:27.779
Lee who I like his energy. We've got Glenn, who

00:28:27.779 --> 00:28:30.220
we like dancing on the sidelines in the few moments

00:28:30.220 --> 00:28:32.980
they had. You've got Vrabel with his warrior

00:28:32.980 --> 00:28:35.519
stuff and everything. And you've got Brady, who's

00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.440
also a really high energy dude. It just feels

00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.000
like everyone has the vibes right in their respective

00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.140
locker rooms with these head coaches. And it's

00:28:44.140 --> 00:28:47.160
so interesting to look at the not so distant

00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.559
past where we had McDermott, who listen, we as

00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:51.799
Bills fans love McDermott, but like those post

00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.140
games, they were a sermon. You had Belichick,

00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.490
which you couldn't get anything out of him. And

00:28:57.490 --> 00:28:59.470
then the rotation of all of these Jets head coaches

00:28:59.470 --> 00:29:01.150
that you can't even keep track of, you know what

00:29:01.150 --> 00:29:04.329
I mean? Like there is some fun, and with the

00:29:04.329 --> 00:29:07.009
exception of Rable, I think some youthful energy

00:29:07.009 --> 00:29:09.849
coming for these head coaches. And I'm excited

00:29:09.849 --> 00:29:12.150
just to see how the division vibes this year.

00:29:12.410 --> 00:29:14.589
I think it's going to be fun, no matter what,

00:29:14.609 --> 00:29:17.609
right? All right, man. Let's get to it. Let's

00:29:17.609 --> 00:29:20.490
wrap up here. Give us real quick lightning. Relating

00:29:20.490 --> 00:29:23.230
round your final preseason prediction or preseason

00:29:23.230 --> 00:29:26.369
predictions for 2026 win -loss record Chances

00:29:26.369 --> 00:29:28.089
your team makes the playoffs and then give us

00:29:28.089 --> 00:29:30.049
one player you think is gonna surprise fans this

00:29:30.049 --> 00:29:33.890
year six wins We're gonna go we're gonna go way

00:29:33.890 --> 00:29:36.569
above. I know people are thinking all right.

00:29:36.630 --> 00:29:39.789
Well here comes, you know People are joking,

00:29:39.990 --> 00:29:42.819
you know Tank for Arch Manning, right, in 27.

00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:44.079
That's what everybody's talking about. That's

00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:45.980
what everyone's saying, right? The Bills might

00:29:45.980 --> 00:29:48.240
decide to do that. Again, you know, as I said

00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:51.279
earlier, you know, we got a lot of one -year,

00:29:51.460 --> 00:29:53.619
two -year contract guys who are on Proof -It,

00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:55.880
you know, who are on Proof -It. Not just whether

00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:58.119
or not they're going to be on the Dolphins for

00:29:58.119 --> 00:29:59.700
next year, but whether or not, for some of them,

00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:01.579
if they're going to be in the league, you know,

00:30:01.660 --> 00:30:06.829
and so what better time than to... to push it

00:30:06.829 --> 00:30:09.009
and surprise some people. So I'm going to say

00:30:09.009 --> 00:30:13.910
six wins. Any hope for the playoff? No. I'll

00:30:13.910 --> 00:30:18.809
be real there. Who was a player you think surprised

00:30:18.809 --> 00:30:22.930
his fans this season? I said it earlier, Jalen

00:30:22.930 --> 00:30:25.190
Toewert. I think he's going to surprise some

00:30:25.190 --> 00:30:28.140
people. Sneaky, I like this. I like this. I'm

00:30:28.140 --> 00:30:30.200
very interested to see what you guys are building

00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.819
in Miami. Like obviously our teams are rivals,

00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.980
but I love the competition. You know what I mean?

00:30:36.180 --> 00:30:40.200
And I love as a football fan watching the organizational

00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:43.569
and team building process happen. And like I

00:30:43.569 --> 00:30:45.430
know it's been rough and Miami has not been getting

00:30:45.430 --> 00:30:46.930
a lot of great press right now and there's a

00:30:46.930 --> 00:30:50.349
lot of pissed off fans, but I'm so curious to

00:30:50.349 --> 00:30:53.450
see like how this experiment ultimately gets

00:30:53.450 --> 00:30:55.490
you guys to 27. You know what I mean? If you

00:30:55.490 --> 00:30:57.990
can just persevere this year, I do think there's

00:30:57.990 --> 00:30:59.630
good things on the horizon for you guys in the

00:30:59.630 --> 00:31:02.329
not so distant future. All right, Steve. Hey,

00:31:02.430 --> 00:31:04.569
man. Listen, we love having you on as always.

00:31:04.789 --> 00:31:06.089
We're going to invite you back one more time

00:31:06.089 --> 00:31:08.849
here preseason to our annual Friends of the Pod

00:31:08.849 --> 00:31:12.450
AFC East mock draft. But until then, all right,

00:31:12.809 --> 00:31:15.029
enjoy your enjoy the rest of your offseason.

00:31:15.109 --> 00:31:17.630
Hopefully the the Dolphins are not getting rid

00:31:17.630 --> 00:31:20.849
of any more beloved players for you. All right.

00:31:20.849 --> 00:31:22.849
And then for all of you listening at home, welcome

00:31:22.849 --> 00:31:25.430
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