WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.900 Well, well, well, well. We need to stop eating 00:00:04.900 --> 00:00:08.660 like this. Well, welcome back to the Buffalo 00:00:08.660 --> 00:00:12.660 Bread Podcast. It is a somber Sunday evening. 00:00:13.140 --> 00:00:15.619 And I mean, I don't have to say, you know, over 00:00:15.619 --> 00:00:18.960 time, you just get worn down. I remember getting 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:22.620 very angry and then very sad after 13 seconds. 00:00:22.620 --> 00:00:25.960 And I was. really kind of, you know, dejected 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:29.039 after the Bengals snow game lost and various 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:32.439 other times. As of recently, I've had big time 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:35.659 emotions. I'm just numb, Dan. I'm just numb and 00:00:35.659 --> 00:00:38.299 empty and I don't know what else they needed 00:00:38.299 --> 00:00:41.359 to do. Wait, they needed to avoid turning the 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.399 ball over four real times in one imaginary time. 00:00:44.659 --> 00:00:47.070 Right. You know, whenever we do our end of the 00:00:47.070 --> 00:00:50.530 season pod, there is no real sense in breaking 00:00:50.530 --> 00:00:52.950 down the game because really it's all about the 00:00:52.950 --> 00:00:55.710 feelings. You know, I'll say this, right? I do 00:00:55.710 --> 00:00:57.729 think there are some things that are instructive 00:00:57.729 --> 00:01:00.450 for how this game went that should lend itself 00:01:00.450 --> 00:01:03.350 to inform how the Bills pursue their off season. 00:01:03.570 --> 00:01:05.959 I do think they're at a pretty, I think this 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:08.519 is a roster that has to be at a turning point, 00:01:08.620 --> 00:01:11.819 right? Even with some of the more highly regarded 00:01:11.819 --> 00:01:14.319 players that we've invested time, resources, 00:01:14.459 --> 00:01:17.579 and money into, there comes a point where the 00:01:17.579 --> 00:01:19.319 dudes on the roster are still not getting it 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:21.659 done, right? Just regardless of how long they've 00:01:21.659 --> 00:01:23.540 been there for. And no, I'm not talking about 00:01:23.540 --> 00:01:25.480 Josh Allen in case anyone's wondering, right? 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:28.819 But you do need a set of fresh eyes, or at least 00:01:28.819 --> 00:01:31.659 you need to have those that are within the organization 00:01:31.659 --> 00:01:35.019 look with fresh eyes at this roster. at the scheme. 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:37.379 And a loss like this can be instructive and it 00:01:37.379 --> 00:01:39.640 can be an opportunity. Let's get a couple of 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:42.280 things out of the way really quickly first. One, 00:01:42.500 --> 00:01:45.439 it was a catch. Two, was not PI on Taron Johnson. 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.859 Three, it was PI on Trey White. Four, never leave 00:01:48.859 --> 00:01:50.719 it in the ref's hands anyways. And this is a 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:53.599 lesson the Buffalo Bills need to learn. They 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:55.739 need to learn it and it feels like they need 00:01:55.739 --> 00:01:58.200 to learn it the hard way every season. But at 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:00.239 the end of the day, When you are a team with 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:02.700 a tracker like the buffalo bills and a lot of 00:02:02.700 --> 00:02:05.120 these close games where it comes down to this 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:07.939 rule or this botched call or this whatever it 00:02:07.939 --> 00:02:10.379 is you need to put yourself in a position for 00:02:10.379 --> 00:02:13.639 fire yourself to a point where you're no longer 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.039 leaving it. to people that shouldn't be controlling 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:18.699 the game, i .e. the officials or anything else. 00:02:19.020 --> 00:02:21.120 And that has to start JJ with how this team approaches 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.840 the roster. Listen, it was a gutsy, tough year 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:26.080 for the squad. I think that's a positive note 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:28.639 to start on. The injuries that they went through. 00:02:28.939 --> 00:02:30.900 I understand a lot of people being like, yep, 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:33.620 you know, Michael Hoyt injury. What would this 00:02:33.620 --> 00:02:36.000 defense have looked like? You know, had it come 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:38.740 to full fruition, Joe, you know, Joey Bose's 00:02:38.740 --> 00:02:40.810 role. You know, as a result of having Hoyt in 00:02:40.810 --> 00:02:43.229 the lineup as well, would it have unlocked Greg 00:02:43.229 --> 00:02:45.689 Russo a little bit more? Like, would it have 00:02:45.689 --> 00:02:47.389 taken some of the edge off of Milano and all 00:02:47.389 --> 00:02:49.729 he had to play? All of these things are valid 00:02:49.729 --> 00:02:51.389 questions. Like, what if we had Max Harrison 00:02:51.389 --> 00:02:53.169 in that game? And what if we had Max Harrison 00:02:53.169 --> 00:02:55.330 in the game instead of Dane Jackson? What if 00:02:55.330 --> 00:02:58.550 we had Poirier or Taylor Rap? These are all the 00:02:58.550 --> 00:03:00.590 what -ifs that don't matter. No team is going 00:03:00.590 --> 00:03:02.930 to win that game when you are down to your fifth 00:03:02.930 --> 00:03:06.590 or sixth string DBs in those particular situations. 00:03:06.990 --> 00:03:09.139 However, I should have never have come to that 00:03:09.139 --> 00:03:11.599 point. Denver Broncos are a good team. But as 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:13.539 you said, the Buffalo Bills turned the ball over 00:03:13.539 --> 00:03:16.020 five times and the number one seed in the AFC 00:03:16.020 --> 00:03:19.180 still needed overtime to put the squad away. 00:03:19.419 --> 00:03:23.240 The Bills are not miles and miles and miles apart 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:26.460 from these teams. However, I do think they need 00:03:26.460 --> 00:03:30.319 to stop making. a lot of these marginal adjustments 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:33.520 to the roster and really go in and address the 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:35.800 things that have been eating them on both sides 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:37.539 of the ball. And JJ, they're going to have that 00:03:37.539 --> 00:03:39.340 opportunity because the scheme is going to change 00:03:39.340 --> 00:03:41.280 very likely on the offensive side of the ball. 00:03:41.620 --> 00:03:43.080 Joe Brady is going to get a head coaching job. 00:03:43.340 --> 00:03:45.719 Um, Aaron Cromer already announced today that 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:49.180 he is retired. So this is sad and I'm with you 00:03:49.180 --> 00:03:51.719 and I'm in my feelings, but it's also an exciting 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.319 opportunity to really turn the chapter on this 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:57.080 era of Buffalo Bill's football. Almost kind of 00:03:57.080 --> 00:03:59.120 poetically as we closed down the Ralph and we 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.240 open up new high Mark and really stretch and 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.699 see what this, what this roster and what this 00:04:05.699 --> 00:04:08.259 team inside the building is capable of doing 00:04:08.259 --> 00:04:10.919 with a fresh set of eyes and effectively a reset. 00:04:11.539 --> 00:04:14.240 Agreed and I think that we exchanged no texts 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:16.500 at all during the game. We don't we didn't really 00:04:16.500 --> 00:04:19.860 the yeah the The listeners and viewers would 00:04:19.860 --> 00:04:21.500 would find it may be interesting that we don't 00:04:21.500 --> 00:04:24.160 actually talk about the game during the game 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:27.160 Barely at all ever except for hang on. That's 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:29.319 like for one thing I don't want to step the key 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:32.319 on Coleman to me, which was awesome by the way. 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:36.439 Yeah Yeah, we do occasionally, we used to talk 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:38.600 just like sporadically here and there about Jerry 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:40.540 Hughes, and then we've talked sporadically here 00:04:40.540 --> 00:04:43.079 and there about Keon Coleman. We make references 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:45.420 to the players that we depart on the most off 00:04:45.420 --> 00:04:47.699 and on. But it's not like, you'd imagine if you're 00:04:47.699 --> 00:04:49.379 a listener, right, you'd imagine the two of us 00:04:49.379 --> 00:04:51.839 are just nonstop gabbing about it. What's actually 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:55.079 happening is Dan is lighting up our threads account 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.199 with shitposts that are getting traction. And 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.439 then I am sitting there on pins and needles. 00:05:00.620 --> 00:05:02.500 When the bills went down, I think it was 10 points 00:05:02.500 --> 00:05:05.040 at the end of the half and first half. And then 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:06.959 they had the strip sack immediately after the 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:09.519 first half or the second half started. I left 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:12.779 my home. Like I left, I went to the gym. I did 00:05:12.779 --> 00:05:15.199 the whole second half and overtime on the treadmill. 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:17.839 Wow. And I actually was only going to do like, 00:05:17.899 --> 00:05:19.420 I was only going to do until the game ended, 00:05:19.420 --> 00:05:21.180 but then overtime happened. I just stayed, so 00:05:21.180 --> 00:05:23.709 I had a great workout. And I stayed because I'm 00:05:23.709 --> 00:05:25.610 a little stitious and I was like, well, as soon 00:05:25.610 --> 00:05:27.709 as I got here, they held them to a field goal 00:05:27.709 --> 00:05:29.509 and then scored a quick touchdown right after 00:05:29.509 --> 00:05:31.269 that. Like we're, this is what we're doing now. 00:05:31.370 --> 00:05:33.170 Like this is my good luck charm. This is how 00:05:33.170 --> 00:05:35.649 I can help. And so, but yeah, we didn't talk. 00:05:35.910 --> 00:05:37.490 And the point I was getting to in the initial 00:05:37.490 --> 00:05:39.949 was after this game ended, like one of the first 00:05:39.949 --> 00:05:42.009 things I said to you is like, sell the farm and 00:05:42.009 --> 00:05:44.829 get into the top 12. Like you cannot approach. 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:47.899 the draft the same way you have in years past 00:05:47.899 --> 00:05:51.040 where you're accumulating end of the round, middle 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:53.699 round picks and trying to turn, you know, chicken 00:05:53.699 --> 00:05:56.519 crap into chicken salad. Like this, do something 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:59.439 to get yourself an edge towards the top of the 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:02.379 draft. Trade some people, trade some picks, move 00:06:02.379 --> 00:06:04.180 up, get into a place where you can really get 00:06:04.180 --> 00:06:06.120 a blue chip prospect, somebody who can be an 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:08.360 absolute game changer. Because right now it's 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:11.800 just Josh Allen and James Cook and on occasion, 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:15.709 Christian Benford, which was cool. But he also, 00:06:15.930 --> 00:06:17.769 when the chips are down and they're against, 00:06:17.769 --> 00:06:20.730 you know, elite talent, he can get had. And he 00:06:20.730 --> 00:06:23.149 didn't too much, but he had a few, he had a touchdown 00:06:23.149 --> 00:06:26.310 on him yesterday. Exactly. Yes. I would like 00:06:26.310 --> 00:06:28.589 to see Bean play the board a little bit more 00:06:28.589 --> 00:06:31.610 aggressively in this year's draft. I texted you 00:06:31.610 --> 00:06:36.350 my draft day. Yeah. Carnell Tate, Caleb Downs, 00:06:36.509 --> 00:06:38.329 Arvel Reese, no matter what. You probably got 00:06:38.329 --> 00:06:42.029 a mortgage, some 27 and 28 picks there too, right? 00:06:42.230 --> 00:06:44.339 Yeah. And I, of course, don't expect them to 00:06:44.339 --> 00:06:47.019 get all three. But I haven't even started digging 00:06:47.019 --> 00:06:49.740 in the draft yet. But the bills, listen, this 00:06:49.740 --> 00:06:52.420 roster is going to have some pretty significant 00:06:52.420 --> 00:06:54.879 holes in it. They've got some key free agents 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:56.639 that are going to be departing. I think probably 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:58.560 most notably, they got to make a decision about 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:00.800 Conor McGovern and I think David Edwards as well. 00:07:01.019 --> 00:07:04.060 Both, yeah. Yep. So the, and now with Cromer 00:07:04.060 --> 00:07:06.339 going, this is the opportunity, right? You're 00:07:06.339 --> 00:07:08.579 going to bring in probably a new OC who's going 00:07:08.579 --> 00:07:11.420 to bring in a new offensive line coach. It is 00:07:11.420 --> 00:07:14.560 a chance to rebuild the interior of that offensive 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.660 line in your image. And listen, JJ, we love Dawkins, 00:07:17.860 --> 00:07:21.139 like Deon Dawkins, snowman, he is the dude, but 00:07:21.139 --> 00:07:24.120 this was a, this was a great season for him, 00:07:24.259 --> 00:07:26.540 but not a season that is usually up to his standards. 00:07:26.860 --> 00:07:30.019 He's passed the point of 30, right? his value 00:07:30.019 --> 00:07:32.899 has been his athleticism, you're probably in 00:07:32.899 --> 00:07:35.100 the next one to two years, like you're going 00:07:35.100 --> 00:07:37.319 to ask him to learn a new blocking scheme, right? 00:07:37.379 --> 00:07:39.160 New concepts. You're probably at the point of 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:41.459 one to two years of turning that particular position 00:07:41.459 --> 00:07:43.879 around as well. So I agree with you. I mean, 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:46.889 start aggressively because again, The Broncos, 00:07:47.089 --> 00:07:48.949 not that much better than the Bills and we saw 00:07:48.949 --> 00:07:51.290 it in that game. With the display we just saw 00:07:51.290 --> 00:07:54.670 in New England with CJ Stroud, the Houston Texans, 00:07:54.850 --> 00:07:57.129 even in the game the Bills played, they were 00:07:57.129 --> 00:07:58.370 in it right up until the end and they played 00:07:58.370 --> 00:08:00.209 one of their worst games of the season. Like 00:08:00.209 --> 00:08:02.589 the New England Patriots, they're very well coached. 00:08:02.649 --> 00:08:05.430 Their infrastructure is so impressive. And the 00:08:05.430 --> 00:08:07.709 cap room that they have, like they are going 00:08:07.709 --> 00:08:09.990 to be in and around. They are going to be the 00:08:09.990 --> 00:08:12.370 new standard in the division, I think, moving 00:08:12.370 --> 00:08:14.610 forward. And if you're the Buffalo Bills, you've 00:08:14.610 --> 00:08:17.730 got to attack it. Like you attacked it when McD 00:08:17.730 --> 00:08:20.769 still came on board and the Brady era was still 00:08:20.769 --> 00:08:23.689 hanging over the AFC East Like you have got to 00:08:23.689 --> 00:08:26.509 take that underdog mentality again and play with 00:08:26.509 --> 00:08:29.250 house money And I just I haven't seen me do that 00:08:29.250 --> 00:08:31.209 enough, but this is an opportunity Well, and 00:08:31.209 --> 00:08:32.950 this is that that's the situation too is like 00:08:32.950 --> 00:08:35.230 a little bit It's been now two or three seasons 00:08:35.230 --> 00:08:37.710 to two seasons made two and a half seasons that 00:08:37.710 --> 00:08:40.179 the Bills have played like frontrunners and played 00:08:40.179 --> 00:08:43.279 down to competition, had teams sneak up on them, 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:45.419 not played hungry enough during the regular season 00:08:45.419 --> 00:08:47.600 because they had their eyes towards the postseason. 00:08:48.100 --> 00:08:49.480 And where has it gotten them? It's gotten them 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:52.559 a two, three, four, five, six seed, right? They 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:55.259 need to finish in the one seed. If they want 00:08:55.259 --> 00:08:58.100 to see a Lombardi Trophy, they need to host the 00:08:58.100 --> 00:09:00.980 playoffs at home. They are markedly different 00:09:00.980 --> 00:09:03.379 home versus away. We know it. We've been there 00:09:03.379 --> 00:09:05.600 for a playoff game. It is a completely different 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:07.320 road. It's a completely different environment. 00:09:07.580 --> 00:09:09.480 That's the only way. I think Josh Allen never 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.960 sees the Super Bowl unless they're the ones in 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.259 the AFC. And to do that, they have to play like 00:09:15.259 --> 00:09:17.779 you reference with the Brady era Patriots. They 00:09:17.779 --> 00:09:19.759 have to play like the Brady era Patriots and 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:22.740 bury teams that are lesser competition. Absolutely 00:09:22.740 --> 00:09:25.299 bury them. Make it not a question whatsoever. 00:09:25.500 --> 00:09:27.940 And to do that, they need more talent and defense 00:09:27.940 --> 00:09:31.570 and they need at least one capable outside pass 00:09:31.570 --> 00:09:34.149 catcher who's not a retread first or second round 00:09:34.149 --> 00:09:36.269 pick who's bounced around to five teams. Yes, 00:09:36.490 --> 00:09:40.870 I would argue too that and again, listen, I think 00:09:40.870 --> 00:09:43.669 the Denver Broncos game was Joe Brady's best 00:09:43.669 --> 00:09:46.289 called game of the entire year. I really thought 00:09:46.289 --> 00:09:48.149 what he was scheming up in the run game, the 00:09:48.149 --> 00:09:50.490 passing concepts he had, there was less full 00:09:50.490 --> 00:09:52.850 field stuff. There were more multilevel options 00:09:52.850 --> 00:09:54.990 for Josh to get to that weren't mesh, you know? 00:09:55.029 --> 00:09:56.610 And I mean, I thought Josh did a good job for 00:09:56.610 --> 00:09:59.570 the most part hitting his progressions, right? 00:09:59.629 --> 00:10:03.149 When he wasn't throwing the ball backwards on 00:10:03.149 --> 00:10:07.269 a 16 seconds left in the first half. And we can 00:10:07.269 --> 00:10:08.830 get to Josh, right? And this is actually maybe 00:10:08.830 --> 00:10:10.789 a good segue into getting to that, because we're 00:10:10.789 --> 00:10:14.470 not going to bury Josh. Josh is not accountable 00:10:14.470 --> 00:10:16.230 to us. He's accountable to the team and himself, 00:10:16.230 --> 00:10:18.110 and no one's going to hold him to a higher level 00:10:18.110 --> 00:10:19.850 of standard than he's going to hold himself. 00:10:19.929 --> 00:10:21.929 So what we say about him doesn't matter. But 00:10:21.929 --> 00:10:24.769 I watched this postseason, right? Teams that 00:10:24.769 --> 00:10:27.429 are still in it. The Denver Broncos, they have 00:10:27.429 --> 00:10:30.809 an offensive scheme that is tailored to their 00:10:30.809 --> 00:10:33.470 quarterback. And their quarterback has limitations 00:10:33.470 --> 00:10:36.009 that our quarterback does not. But you've got 00:10:36.009 --> 00:10:38.269 a really good head coach, and you've got a really 00:10:38.269 --> 00:10:40.629 good offensive staff that know how to tailor 00:10:40.629 --> 00:10:43.379 that scheme. to that particular QB skill set. 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:45.879 We just saw the same thing in New England too, 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:48.460 where you've got Josh McDaniels, who knows exactly, 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:51.600 will like probably goad it as an offensive coordinator. 00:10:52.629 --> 00:10:54.990 What he's asking what he's getting out of and 00:10:54.990 --> 00:10:57.889 asking his second year QB to do and I don't want 00:10:57.889 --> 00:10:59.809 to hear the schedule conversation Because two 00:10:59.809 --> 00:11:02.429 are the point we made earlier like the Patriots 00:11:02.429 --> 00:11:04.429 are burying bad teams They're doing what good 00:11:04.429 --> 00:11:06.350 teams should do and not play down to level or 00:11:06.350 --> 00:11:08.389 the competition those fans You don't want to 00:11:08.389 --> 00:11:10.590 play in Denver this year You beat the Falcons 00:11:10.590 --> 00:11:12.870 and you beat the Dolphins like the Patriots did 00:11:12.870 --> 00:11:15.610 and you're at home, right? Right. So like don't 00:11:15.610 --> 00:11:17.850 play down to your competition. But again, it's 00:11:17.850 --> 00:11:20.580 a scheme tailored to a second year QB who is 00:11:20.580 --> 00:11:22.620 still developing, like McDaniels isn't putting 00:11:22.620 --> 00:11:25.879 a ton on Drake May to assess at the line of scrimmage, 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:27.720 but then you look at a team who's still in it, 00:11:28.259 --> 00:11:31.440 like the LA Rams and that Stafford is basically 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:34.779 like linked at the hip with Sean McVay and calling 00:11:34.779 --> 00:11:36.720 plays at the line of scrimmage based on coverages, 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:40.240 right? So I look around who's still in it and 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:43.360 everyone has an offense tailored to the most 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.159 special player on their unit, which is the QB 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:50.360 and the Buffalo Bills. I think in a well -intentioned 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:53.519 way to take pressure off of Josh. They put together 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:57.620 a scheme that they put together, they thought 00:11:57.620 --> 00:12:00.379 was asking him to do less, but was actually putting 00:12:00.379 --> 00:12:02.320 him in a place where I think the things they're 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:05.279 asking him to do were not tailored to his skillset, 00:12:05.340 --> 00:12:07.460 even though he did a lot of them very well. Like, 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:10.659 I love Josh. But Josh to me is not Peyton Manning 00:12:10.659 --> 00:12:12.340 behind the line of scrimmage. Like we talked 00:12:12.340 --> 00:12:15.019 about it all year how teams were onto their coverages, 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:17.500 teams were onto their checks, and him and McGovern 00:12:17.500 --> 00:12:19.100 just couldn't get on the same page really until 00:12:19.100 --> 00:12:21.700 that Jacksonville game a couple of weeks ago. 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.470 Josh's Grip It and Rip It. but like they make 00:12:24.470 --> 00:12:27.590 him sit there for 39 seconds, checking all these 00:12:27.590 --> 00:12:29.649 things at the line of scrimmage. But we've seen 00:12:29.649 --> 00:12:32.289 the metrics. We know that when he can play in 00:12:32.289 --> 00:12:35.149 a no huddle or a tempo offense, PBR goes up, 00:12:35.409 --> 00:12:37.529 rating goes up, average Yarisport temp go up, 00:12:37.690 --> 00:12:40.610 and you put teams at a disadvantage. And shotgun 00:12:40.610 --> 00:12:42.769 versus under center. Josh is a great under center 00:12:42.769 --> 00:12:45.830 play action QB, but he's still not as good at 00:12:45.830 --> 00:12:48.169 doing that as he is out of the shotgun, spreading 00:12:48.169 --> 00:12:51.980 it out and 11 personnel. So I... What I want 00:12:51.980 --> 00:12:54.340 to see happen next is not just the roster rebuild 00:12:54.340 --> 00:12:56.940 because let's say Joe Brady is still the offensive 00:12:56.940 --> 00:12:59.159 coordinator and we go get Justin Jefferson We 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:01.940 go get AJ Brown. I'm not convinced that those 00:13:01.940 --> 00:13:03.919 guys are successful in this particular scheme 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:06.259 as wide receivers So I Stefan Diggs like hit 00:13:06.259 --> 00:13:08.019 the bricks, you know what I mean and wanted out 00:13:08.019 --> 00:13:10.379 of Buffalo He saw the writing on the wall and 00:13:10.379 --> 00:13:12.460 oh by the way, he's playing in the AFC championship 00:13:12.460 --> 00:13:15.720 again Right while the Bills go home So it's the 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:18.539 roster build but that roster build has got to 00:13:18.539 --> 00:13:22.240 be married to what? the schematic needs of whatever 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.980 the new offensive coaching staff are. And it's 00:13:24.980 --> 00:13:26.860 got to start with how do we get the most out 00:13:26.860 --> 00:13:29.740 of Josh as he is turning the page on his career 00:13:29.740 --> 00:13:33.179 too, heading into his age 30 season where, you 00:13:33.179 --> 00:13:34.679 know, we don't know what kind of regression we're 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:36.720 going to see. I think his prime is still wide 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:39.019 open, but is he going to age like Matt Stafford 00:13:39.019 --> 00:13:41.080 or is he going to age like Cam Newton? Only time 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:43.080 will tell. But you need to bring in an offensive 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:44.980 staff that is aware of that and doesn't want 00:13:44.980 --> 00:13:46.799 to throw him across the line of scrimmage in 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:49.960 a tush push situation to get a random third and 00:13:49.740 --> 00:13:55.580 Is Davis Mills still coaching somewhere? The 00:13:55.580 --> 00:13:57.799 former Davis Webb, that's it, yeah. Is he coaching 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:02.340 somewhere? Yeah, he is in Denver. He's a Kube 00:14:02.340 --> 00:14:05.600 coach. He's an excellent Kube coach and he is 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:08.279 considered one of the great up -and -coming offensive 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:10.620 minds. He's going to be obviously influenced 00:14:10.620 --> 00:14:14.190 by that Sean Payton scheme. You know, because 00:14:14.190 --> 00:14:17.629 I've looked him up because you and I think he's 00:14:17.629 --> 00:14:20.450 not really, he's in a good situation in Denver 00:14:20.450 --> 00:14:22.789 and it would take a lot to pry him away, I think. 00:14:23.149 --> 00:14:25.309 And also he may not be ready to call plays or 00:14:25.309 --> 00:14:27.789 scheme an offense. He's still pretty young. Yeah. 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:29.700 He's an OC though, but this is what I'm saying. 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:31.820 He's known to the franchise, so it makes him 00:14:31.820 --> 00:14:34.279 more likely. Everybody in the world, when he 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:36.639 was on the team, talked about how he was basically 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:39.879 an offensive genius and that he taught Josh Allen 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:43.120 early in his career. He taught me how to play 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.620 offense as the practice squad could be. It's 00:14:46.620 --> 00:14:49.399 a question of is he available and would he consider 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:51.059 leaving? Because I know it's a sweet gig in Denver, 00:14:51.259 --> 00:14:54.279 but... an OC job from a QB coaching job is a 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:57.139 big, big upgrade. It is a big upgrade. And listen, 00:14:57.220 --> 00:14:58.820 I love Davis Webb. I'd love to bring him back 00:14:58.820 --> 00:15:01.460 on the staff. The things that we just said about 00:15:01.460 --> 00:15:03.940 Davis Webb, we were saying about Bobby Babich, 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:06.100 like two, three years ago. That's true. Young, 00:15:06.259 --> 00:15:08.860 up and coming. There are some guys that are just 00:15:08.860 --> 00:15:11.000 better coaches than they are call players, than 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:13.299 they are schematic developers, right? I think 00:15:13.299 --> 00:15:15.320 Joe Brady, and this could be an unpopular take, 00:15:15.700 --> 00:15:17.620 like he knows how to scheme an offense. He knows 00:15:17.620 --> 00:15:20.330 how to attack modern defenses. I don't think 00:15:20.330 --> 00:15:22.929 he is great at play sequencing or play calling, 00:15:23.070 --> 00:15:24.809 but I don't think he's going to need that to 00:15:24.809 --> 00:15:26.669 be a really good head coach. Like look at Brian 00:15:26.669 --> 00:15:29.450 Schottenheimer. Brian Schottenheimer in Dallas 00:15:29.450 --> 00:15:32.730 had a, I would say an unexpectedly good year 00:15:32.730 --> 00:15:34.909 in his first year as head coach there. And he 00:15:34.909 --> 00:15:38.070 was not known as a great play caller, but word 00:15:38.070 --> 00:15:39.870 around the league, when you read up on the Dallas 00:15:39.870 --> 00:15:41.970 Cowboys, we're like, listen, there are just dudes 00:15:41.970 --> 00:15:44.549 that know how to coach men and there are dudes 00:15:44.549 --> 00:15:46.129 that know how to call plays. And sometimes those 00:15:46.129 --> 00:15:48.429 things are not always combined with each other. 00:15:49.190 --> 00:15:51.350 Yes. Schottenheimer is going to know how to coach 00:15:51.350 --> 00:15:53.950 men. He just can't call plays. And I think Brady 00:15:53.950 --> 00:15:55.529 is going to be one of those guys that knows how 00:15:55.529 --> 00:15:59.210 to coach. Tomlin is one of those guys. Yes. A 00:15:59.210 --> 00:16:02.830 player's leader of men not known for his play 00:16:02.830 --> 00:16:05.669 calling. Look at New England. Vrabel is like 00:16:05.669 --> 00:16:09.549 that. Vrabel is that. I don't know. I agree completely 00:16:09.549 --> 00:16:11.870 that unless we get a different offensive coordinator, 00:16:12.029 --> 00:16:14.360 there's no point in investing a blue chip. into 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:16.480 a wide receiver because the wide receivers and 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:18.899 this everybody eats isn't just a cute mantra. 00:16:19.299 --> 00:16:21.500 It's literally the way it's designed. It's designed 00:16:21.500 --> 00:16:24.500 so that there is no premier hot route player 00:16:24.500 --> 00:16:27.620 to try to target. It's just whomever is in the 00:16:27.620 --> 00:16:30.000 spot. It's a system. And I don't think Josh Allen 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.149 works best with as a system quarterback. So I 00:16:33.149 --> 00:16:36.350 would I would also welcome a change at OC. I'd 00:16:36.350 --> 00:16:38.470 welcome a DC who's not going to be a McDermott 00:16:38.470 --> 00:16:40.509 puppet, but we know that's not going to happen. 00:16:40.789 --> 00:16:42.490 And it's not like McDermott's going to leave. 00:16:42.649 --> 00:16:45.029 I actually don't have any I don't have any I'm 00:16:45.029 --> 00:16:46.929 not going to give any guff to the. Coaching because 00:16:46.929 --> 00:16:50.070 I don't think the coaches lost any play put the 00:16:50.070 --> 00:16:52.929 bills in any hard situation in the playoffs I 00:16:52.929 --> 00:16:55.370 think it was execution only it was execution 00:16:55.370 --> 00:16:58.129 in depth, right? Like I think that Bean has something 00:16:58.129 --> 00:17:00.590 to answer to but I don't know that McDermott 00:17:00.590 --> 00:17:02.830 or his staff do I think they coached as good 00:17:02.830 --> 00:17:04.869 a game as they could the players did not get 00:17:04.869 --> 00:17:07.349 it done in key moments and then on top of that 00:17:07.349 --> 00:17:09.849 there weren't the right players to ask to do 00:17:09.849 --> 00:17:12.930 those things in key moments. Yes, I would yes. 00:17:12.930 --> 00:17:16.140 I agree. I think if you were to Place blame its 00:17:16.140 --> 00:17:19.339 player execution and yes Josh. Owns a lot of 00:17:19.339 --> 00:17:20.960 that blame for the game that he played right 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:23.700 it is roster build I think first and foremost 00:17:23.700 --> 00:17:27.039 I go roster build Josh and I wouldn't put a ton. 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:29.960 For this specific game at the feet of the coaches 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:32.460 but. I mean, come on, you got Dane Jackson out 00:17:32.460 --> 00:17:34.980 there in a man's situation and you're not going 00:17:34.980 --> 00:17:36.680 to give him safety help over the top. You're 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:38.539 not going to give him anything. Like you have 00:17:38.539 --> 00:17:41.319 to know that Sean Payton, who has already targeted 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:43.880 Darnell Savage for the three snaps he was out 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:46.339 there replacing Kam Lewis, was going to go after 00:17:46.339 --> 00:17:48.759 Dane Jackson. And like no help over the top. 00:17:49.180 --> 00:17:51.109 Come on. Got out coached in that one. You should 00:17:51.109 --> 00:17:53.029 have dropped into like some sort of cloud zone 00:17:53.029 --> 00:17:55.210 or something that would have given You know a 00:17:55.210 --> 00:17:57.789 lot more support and let him play what we know 00:17:57.789 --> 00:18:01.049 his strengths are as a as a limited cb athletically, 00:18:01.049 --> 00:18:04.309 right? And yeah, I go next like his no zip on 00:18:04.309 --> 00:18:07.230 like I listen I hope bonex heals i'm really happy 00:18:07.230 --> 00:18:09.549 for like everything he's injected in that denver 00:18:09.549 --> 00:18:11.829 fan base I think that's great right like him 00:18:11.829 --> 00:18:14.569 and sean payton seemed to share the same like 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:18.160 fun arrogance, right? That makes them like very 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:19.920 exciting for that fan base, hateable to other 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.259 fan bases. It's great to have that juice back, 00:18:22.259 --> 00:18:24.380 right? But like he's throwing lollipops up there. 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:27.660 Like he's throwing like the biggest moon shots 00:18:27.660 --> 00:18:30.059 I've ever seen and like no zip on the ball. Like, 00:18:30.099 --> 00:18:33.700 oh God, God. And if it was anyone, and it was 00:18:33.700 --> 00:18:36.059 anyone other than Dane Jackson, right? Anyone 00:18:36.059 --> 00:18:38.039 other than Dane Jackson in that moment, you know? 00:18:38.259 --> 00:18:41.829 Well, I was like, Why can't the NFL instill a 00:18:41.829 --> 00:18:44.970 wonky policy where Josh Allen could be traded 00:18:44.970 --> 00:18:48.390 to the Broncos for just the postseason for like 00:18:48.390 --> 00:18:51.130 their one and just like play with, you know, 00:18:51.309 --> 00:18:54.029 with them for you. Get to keep the Super Bowl 00:18:54.029 --> 00:18:56.910 ring. I know he would win and then come back 00:18:56.910 --> 00:19:00.009 to Buffalo for the offseason and all that. Let's 00:19:00.009 --> 00:19:02.490 go deeper. I mean, we just saw what Philip Rivers 00:19:02.490 --> 00:19:04.250 did. If you're Denver, why are you not calling 00:19:04.250 --> 00:19:07.069 Tom Brady? Right. Why are you not calling Tom 00:19:07.069 --> 00:19:09.349 Brady? How cool would that be? Hey, Tom, you 00:19:09.349 --> 00:19:11.430 want to ring? Oh, he beats New England. That 00:19:11.430 --> 00:19:15.789 would be just... NFL script writers, if you're 00:19:15.789 --> 00:19:17.809 listening. I know, if you're listening to any 00:19:17.809 --> 00:19:20.150 of this. Now, Tom is... Rolling in the dough 00:19:20.150 --> 00:19:22.589 and I don't listen. I don't listen to broadcasts 00:19:22.589 --> 00:19:25.049 anymore say for like Greg Olson I'll listen to 00:19:25.049 --> 00:19:28.890 JJ watt and then Akeman and buck outside of that. 00:19:28.890 --> 00:19:31.450 I mute the broadcasts I put the bills home games 00:19:31.450 --> 00:19:36.089 radio radio, but I heard Tom Brady was good at 00:19:36.089 --> 00:19:37.769 broadcasting this year That's apparently moving 00:19:37.769 --> 00:19:40.690 around the the you know, the social medias. So 00:19:40.690 --> 00:19:43.349 Bill's had a really good game Yeah. So, Bills 00:19:43.349 --> 00:19:45.990 fans, that's the only hope that you need. If 00:19:45.990 --> 00:19:49.269 Tom Brady, who was, by and large, the worst user 00:19:49.269 --> 00:19:51.250 of the English language last year, whenever he 00:19:51.250 --> 00:19:54.210 had to give a broadcast, has in one year taken 00:19:54.210 --> 00:19:57.450 the leap he has to ascend the ranks of TV broadcasters, 00:19:57.630 --> 00:19:59.369 I mean, listen, the Buffalo Bills can rebuild 00:19:59.369 --> 00:20:02.089 this roster in a year. And being Stunna before, 00:20:02.210 --> 00:20:05.089 I think we forget that after Josh's rookie season, 00:20:05.289 --> 00:20:07.509 completely wiped out the wide receiver room, 00:20:07.549 --> 00:20:10.250 right? Got to change the whole line. Whole thing, 00:20:10.349 --> 00:20:12.609 right? Changed the whole offensive line. Yep. 00:20:12.690 --> 00:20:14.309 Still took him a couple of years to get that 00:20:14.309 --> 00:20:16.009 right. You know what I mean? Like we've seen 00:20:16.009 --> 00:20:18.509 Bean operate in this, albeit, you know, with 00:20:18.509 --> 00:20:21.049 different salary cap situation. Think, listen, 00:20:21.250 --> 00:20:24.809 I think, and we are, we're, listen, we are, we 00:20:24.809 --> 00:20:27.470 are free form right now, but we are going to, 00:20:27.470 --> 00:20:30.029 you know, come back from our little hiatus at 00:20:30.029 --> 00:20:31.309 the beginning of the new league year. We're going 00:20:31.309 --> 00:20:33.170 to unpack the draft. We're going to unpack Bill's 00:20:33.170 --> 00:20:35.410 needs. We're going to unpack free agency. I think 00:20:35.410 --> 00:20:37.829 if I were to simplify what the Bills need on 00:20:37.829 --> 00:20:40.650 both sides of the ball, defensively. You cannot 00:20:40.650 --> 00:20:44.430 be small and slow, right? And the bills are both, 00:20:44.450 --> 00:20:46.289 right? With the exception of guys like Cole Bishop 00:20:46.289 --> 00:20:50.250 and Max Harrison, it is a small, slow defense 00:20:50.250 --> 00:20:52.769 and it looked as such. And that is a defense 00:20:52.769 --> 00:20:55.069 that made some stops yesterday, but ultimately 00:20:55.069 --> 00:20:58.190 like they just got out -duded. Like better dudes 00:20:58.190 --> 00:21:00.329 on the Denver side of the ball. Same thing with 00:21:00.329 --> 00:21:03.589 that defensive line. You cannot be freakishly 00:21:03.589 --> 00:21:06.589 athletic. without having good pass rush skills 00:21:06.589 --> 00:21:09.069 or discipline, right? And you need, if you're 00:21:09.069 --> 00:21:11.670 going to run a 4 -3, like, you need somebody 00:21:11.670 --> 00:21:13.490 to anchor next to Ed Oliver. We've been saying 00:21:13.490 --> 00:21:15.990 it. We've been saying it. Dianne Walker, while 00:21:15.990 --> 00:21:18.730 he's got the size profile that you want, he is 00:21:18.730 --> 00:21:21.869 more of a pure pass rush. He does not alignment. 00:21:21.990 --> 00:21:26.210 He's a rotational three penetrator, not an inside 00:21:26.210 --> 00:21:29.170 eye. Right. So, and then on the offensive side 00:21:29.170 --> 00:21:31.410 of the ball, Everyone, listen, everyone is going 00:21:31.410 --> 00:21:34.529 to scream for a wide receiver. The bills probably 00:21:34.529 --> 00:21:36.309 need a couple, right? Like the bills probably 00:21:36.309 --> 00:21:38.859 need a couple. Like go get Alec Pierce. Like 00:21:38.859 --> 00:21:40.960 to me to get that down the field, deep threat, 00:21:41.059 --> 00:21:42.259 you know, he's probably going to get paid a lot 00:21:42.259 --> 00:21:43.920 of money coming out of Indy for the year that 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:47.180 he had, but go get a guy like that. I mean, look 00:21:47.180 --> 00:21:50.460 at what Kayshon Booty has meant to Drake May 00:21:50.460 --> 00:21:53.799 just in this, in this Josh McDaniel's scheme, 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:56.380 just as a street guy down the field. You know 00:21:56.380 --> 00:21:58.599 what I mean? Like get someone with sure hands 00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:00.539 that can run a great deep route. You know what 00:22:00.539 --> 00:22:03.519 I mean? How Jacobi Myers was making hay against 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:06.400 the Bills for the Jags after a mid -early season 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.940 trade for a player that was easily gotten away 00:22:08.940 --> 00:22:10.980 from the Raiders. That's another really good 00:22:10.980 --> 00:22:13.319 example of a team. Like everyone thought Trevor 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:15.680 Lawrence was cucked, right? Like he was never 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:17.460 gonna be anything other than what he had been. 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:20.000 And then you get Liam Coenen, who has a unique 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:23.200 understanding of what his QB needs. And I'm not 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.460 saying it needs to be the head coach, but... 00:22:25.069 --> 00:22:27.210 When you turn over an offensive staff, this is 00:22:27.210 --> 00:22:29.170 a chance to do it. The first question should 00:22:29.170 --> 00:22:31.390 be, what do you think Josh is good at? And how 00:22:31.390 --> 00:22:33.390 are you going to build that in? Right? If the 00:22:33.390 --> 00:22:36.569 conversation is starting around, we need to do 00:22:36.569 --> 00:22:40.329 it. Asking Josh to do less should not also coincide 00:22:40.329 --> 00:22:43.109 with asking him to do what he is not good at. 00:22:43.390 --> 00:22:45.369 And that's where I think this Brady scheme did. 00:22:45.549 --> 00:22:48.049 You're on mute. That's how upset I am. It's good 00:22:48.049 --> 00:22:49.750 that the audience couldn't hear the things I 00:22:49.750 --> 00:22:52.869 said. They were just all swears. No. You're exactly 00:22:52.869 --> 00:22:55.730 right. I think that the Brady scheme was, I think 00:22:55.730 --> 00:22:58.029 Sean McDermott liked it because it was ball control, 00:22:58.289 --> 00:23:00.950 time control, time of possession, plotting, get 00:23:00.950 --> 00:23:02.710 it down the field, wear out the defense. All 00:23:02.710 --> 00:23:04.950 those things are good. A defensive coach looks 00:23:04.950 --> 00:23:07.339 at those and goes, That's nice. But yeah, it 00:23:07.339 --> 00:23:10.539 expected Josh Allen to be making check down and 00:23:10.539 --> 00:23:13.420 screen throws and not pulling trigger on super 00:23:13.420 --> 00:23:16.400 deep things because most of that was decoys blocking 00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:18.720 or running off defenders. I mean, we saw it with 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:21.339 Dable. The hole shots like the deep passing Josh 00:23:21.339 --> 00:23:23.759 Allen, it's in there and he wants to hit those 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.660 because he was throwing those balls until they 00:23:26.660 --> 00:23:28.980 forced his hand by taking Keon Coleman off the 00:23:28.980 --> 00:23:31.099 field. He was like, all right, my jump ball guy 00:23:31.099 --> 00:23:32.559 will get this. I'm just going to whip it down 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:34.180 there. Even though that's not the play design 00:23:34.180 --> 00:23:36.500 and it's into double coverage, I just want something 00:23:36.500 --> 00:23:38.599 more than 15 yards past the line of scrimmage. 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:40.880 And he wasn't given those options in the structure 00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:45.200 of the offense. Yeah. It's like trying to keep 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.740 a bowl in a china shop to some extent, right? 00:23:48.779 --> 00:23:50.279 Eventually, he's going to break some plates. 00:23:50.910 --> 00:23:53.450 So, but there's, but that's not to say that Josh 00:23:53.450 --> 00:23:56.150 is an undisciplined QB. And I think what was 00:23:56.150 --> 00:23:58.470 great to see in this experiment that was the 00:23:58.470 --> 00:24:01.450 Brady offense is that Josh did have to develop 00:24:01.450 --> 00:24:03.269 different arm angles for these screens. He did 00:24:03.269 --> 00:24:07.269 have to develop his. Checks at the line of scrimmage 00:24:07.269 --> 00:24:09.049 all these things the table wasn't asking him 00:24:09.049 --> 00:24:11.269 to do He had to learn how to do and while he 00:24:11.269 --> 00:24:14.210 was more successful at some than others I think 00:24:14.210 --> 00:24:16.529 if you're an OC coming in you're not just getting 00:24:16.529 --> 00:24:19.569 the freakish alien athletic talent that is Josh 00:24:19.569 --> 00:24:22.289 Allen You're also getting a much more refined 00:24:22.289 --> 00:24:24.950 passer you're getting a guy who can layer throws 00:24:24.950 --> 00:24:27.190 all over the field, and you're getting a guy 00:24:27.190 --> 00:24:29.849 who's now been exposed to, I mean, quite a few 00:24:29.849 --> 00:24:31.390 different schemes that are going to give him 00:24:31.390 --> 00:24:33.630 some real versatility for what you want to do, 00:24:33.630 --> 00:24:36.289 right? Just start with what the dude is good 00:24:36.289 --> 00:24:41.430 at, and don't design an offensive scheme that 00:24:41.430 --> 00:24:44.069 is intentionally asking him to be the second 00:24:44.069 --> 00:24:48.130 option, right? Like, he should get more than 00:24:48.130 --> 00:24:51.289 49 % of whatever the offensive opportunities 00:24:51.289 --> 00:24:55.400 are. In terms of just a quick kind of reaction 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:58.359 to your reference of what the bills need, what 00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:01.380 expiring contracts they have, I do think that 00:25:01.380 --> 00:25:04.500 they're probably not going to try to bid for 00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:07.000 Conor McGovern. I don't think they're, they may 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.440 or may not keep David Edwards, but I don't think 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:10.980 they're worried too much about it because I think 00:25:10.980 --> 00:25:13.339 they can probably do a long -term deal with Alec 00:25:13.339 --> 00:25:16.039 Anderson at Center or Guard. And I think that 00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:19.319 they're reasonably impressed with Cedric Fran 00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:21.880 -Pran Granger to step in at Center. I think that 00:25:21.819 --> 00:25:24.119 He showed up for, what, a few snaps in the Broncos 00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:26.019 game, or no, Alec Anderson was snapping. It was 00:25:26.019 --> 00:25:28.099 Alec Anderson who was on that snap. Had one shaky 00:25:28.099 --> 00:25:31.380 snap, but otherwise, and you kind of expect that 00:25:31.380 --> 00:25:33.720 with somebody coming in cold on that situation. 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:36.619 For sure. Yeah, I think that they have built 00:25:36.619 --> 00:25:39.220 enough offensive line depth that if they need 00:25:39.220 --> 00:25:41.700 to utilize resources elsewhere, they have some 00:25:41.700 --> 00:25:44.779 guys I think I would trust as starters that have 00:25:44.779 --> 00:25:46.980 had that kind of, have had enough experience 00:25:46.980 --> 00:25:49.940 in swing and fill in and extra linemen roles. 00:25:50.430 --> 00:25:52.829 that I would want to see that go forward. I mean, 00:25:52.970 --> 00:25:54.630 granted, do you want to break one of the best 00:25:54.630 --> 00:25:57.309 offensive linemen's or offensive line units in 00:25:57.309 --> 00:25:59.450 the league up by letting, you know, contracts 00:25:59.450 --> 00:26:01.289 walk? I just think that they're going to be outpriced. 00:26:01.470 --> 00:26:03.630 I think they're going to be outpriced and low 00:26:03.630 --> 00:26:06.269 key. I actually think it's fine. Like the the 00:26:06.269 --> 00:26:08.650 interior of that offensive line and pass protection 00:26:08.650 --> 00:26:10.690 and listen, car before the horse, chicken for 00:26:10.690 --> 00:26:12.250 the egg, whatever you want to say. It could have 00:26:12.250 --> 00:26:14.150 been Josh's checks at the line. It could have 00:26:14.150 --> 00:26:15.789 been McGovern's check. It could have been whatever, 00:26:16.069 --> 00:26:18.759 but. The interior pressure rate of the offensive 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.259 line and pass protection. I mean, it went, it 00:26:21.259 --> 00:26:24.660 was, it was up, I think, 17 or 18 % from last 00:26:24.660 --> 00:26:27.299 year. We saw all the sacks Josh took. I mean, 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.359 I haven't charted it yet. I'm going to do that 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:32.180 while we're on our hiatus. My hypothesis is that 00:26:32.180 --> 00:26:34.460 a lot of those were up the middle, right? Like 00:26:34.460 --> 00:26:41.200 in 2024, or 2023, rather. Listen, again, it hurts. 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:44.880 It hurts. And I think had the Bills won the Super 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:47.559 Bowl, we would have been. thrilled man, like 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:50.579 through the roof. But I think it also would have 00:26:50.579 --> 00:26:55.119 given this current leadership permission to keep 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:57.619 the ship steady as it goes. And I think a loss 00:26:57.619 --> 00:26:59.759 like this, like the Cincinnati loss a couple 00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:02.640 of years ago, should be instead permission to 00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.240 tear it down and really reexamine what it is 00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:07.819 you need to make the squad continue to be successful 00:27:07.819 --> 00:27:09.740 in whatever its newest version is going to be. 00:27:09.900 --> 00:27:14.940 Yeah. No, I agree. I think that this may be silver 00:27:14.940 --> 00:27:17.839 lining things, but yeah, you're right. If they 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:20.259 would have stumbled and flailed their way to 00:27:20.259 --> 00:27:22.619 a Super Bowl and gotten that win, it would have 00:27:22.619 --> 00:27:24.880 been carte blanche forever. We would never see. 00:27:25.140 --> 00:27:26.720 It would have been like Joe Brady leaves for 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:28.539 head coaching job. Bobby Babich maybe leaves 00:27:28.539 --> 00:27:32.049 for head coaching job. bills trade a few key 00:27:32.049 --> 00:27:34.450 assets for some picks that will get starting 00:27:34.450 --> 00:27:36.509 opportunities elsewhere and probably flame out, 00:27:36.609 --> 00:27:38.529 right? Just like the classic script that we saw 00:27:38.529 --> 00:27:41.009 with New England during the Brady era was they 00:27:41.009 --> 00:27:43.450 win a Super Bowl, they trade off a bunch of assets, 00:27:43.549 --> 00:27:45.250 they accumulate a bunch of picks, they pick some 00:27:45.250 --> 00:27:48.430 studs, you know, and then their coordinators 00:27:48.430 --> 00:27:51.230 leave. Success cannot be the enemy of innovation. 00:27:51.470 --> 00:27:54.029 And I think the cardinal sin that the Buffalo 00:27:54.029 --> 00:27:56.329 Bills made, and the wide receiver room is the 00:27:56.329 --> 00:27:59.329 easiest room to point to, is that They did it 00:27:59.329 --> 00:28:01.650 without digs last year. They did it in a new 00:28:01.650 --> 00:28:04.049 way for them, which was running the ball first. 00:28:04.349 --> 00:28:07.390 And they let their success couch them in comfort. 00:28:07.589 --> 00:28:10.230 And they chose to not innovate heading into this 00:28:10.230 --> 00:28:13.220 season. And it is a miracle. When you look at 00:28:13.220 --> 00:28:15.880 it from that lens, that we made it as far as 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.859 we did, even in a flawed AFC field, even in a 00:28:18.859 --> 00:28:21.740 weird year where the traditional powerhouses 00:28:21.740 --> 00:28:24.440 were not so powerful, even in those circumstances. 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:26.299 It's a miracle the Bills made it to where they 00:28:26.299 --> 00:28:28.960 are, and we owe a lot of that to Seventeen. He 00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:30.960 didn't have his best game yesterday. He doesn't 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.599 need us to tell him that. He knows that. But 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:35.339 he also gave us some really great memories this 00:28:35.339 --> 00:28:36.920 season, too, that we're going to be able to take 00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:38.819 with us in the offseason. The offseason. Here 00:28:38.819 --> 00:28:41.440 we are again. Here we are again, man. Can't wait 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:43.859 to talk. Can't wait to talk about how the Bills 00:28:43.859 --> 00:28:46.200 will build a surefire roster that absolutely 00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.500 cannot be stopped on route to the one seed and 00:28:48.500 --> 00:28:51.339 a Super Bowl victory with ease by two or three 00:28:51.339 --> 00:28:55.680 scores. The Hopium cycle reignites. I can feel 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.000 it. I can feel it in my bones. Get the doses 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.519 ready. Before we close it out, JJ, any final 00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.960 thoughts on this game or the Bills 2025 -26 season? 00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.039 Just that that was a catch. That was a catch. 00:29:08.140 --> 00:29:11.299 It was a catch. We should be playing next week. 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:13.599 It was a catch. The Bills would have caught that 00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:15.140 ball even if they didn't gain another yard, they 00:29:15.140 --> 00:29:16.380 would have kicked a game winner. That would have 00:29:16.380 --> 00:29:18.960 meant it. But that was a catch and I actually 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.099 appreciated, you know, the final thought on this 00:29:21.099 --> 00:29:23.359 game. I actually did appreciate that Sean McDermott 00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.420 stood up for his guys in the press conference. 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.920 He probably will get talking to from the NFL 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:31.880 for doing that. But I did appreciate because 00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:34.420 different times and different seasons at the 00:29:34.420 --> 00:29:36.950 end, He has been like, oh, we just didn't get 00:29:36.950 --> 00:29:38.930 it done today and didn't say anything about getting 00:29:38.930 --> 00:29:41.109 robbed by a spot with the ball and this and that. 00:29:41.430 --> 00:29:43.009 This time he took the opportunity, he took the 00:29:43.009 --> 00:29:45.410 platform he has to say, we absolutely were, it 00:29:45.410 --> 00:29:47.470 was, we were done wrong. The players were done 00:29:47.470 --> 00:29:50.269 wrong. Yes. There are coaches, Sean Payton is 00:29:50.269 --> 00:29:52.630 one, Mike Vrabel is another. Coincidentally, 00:29:52.750 --> 00:29:55.069 they're facing off next week in the, in the AFC 00:29:55.069 --> 00:29:57.250 championship game. You know, McVeigh does this 00:29:57.250 --> 00:29:59.769 to a lesser extent. Like the good coaches, they 00:29:59.769 --> 00:30:02.309 will politic for their teams, right? I mean. 00:30:02.509 --> 00:30:05.130 It's not a coincidence that the teams that benefit 00:30:05.130 --> 00:30:07.130 statistically from the calls are the ones that 00:30:07.130 --> 00:30:09.490 work. The officials like Andy Reed is known to 00:30:09.490 --> 00:30:11.710 do it on the sidelines. Mike Tomlin's known to 00:30:11.710 --> 00:30:14.210 do it on the sidelines. Vrabel does it right. 00:30:14.349 --> 00:30:18.079 They do it in public sometimes. towing to the 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.759 line of getting fined, right? And we've wanted 00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:22.519 McDermott to do that. And I think there's a part 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:23.940 of him that's prideful and he doesn't, but I'm 00:30:23.940 --> 00:30:26.099 glad he did it the other day. Because in that 00:30:26.099 --> 00:30:29.740 moment, I think if he went up there and was like, 00:30:29.940 --> 00:30:31.799 hey, we just gotta, we didn't execute, we gotta 00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.039 do a couple. We gotta look at ourselves first. 00:30:34.220 --> 00:30:35.779 Yeah, we gotta look at ourselves, right? We gotta 00:30:35.779 --> 00:30:38.240 self scout here in the off season. I mean, I 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:39.940 think he might have lost that locker room. So 00:30:39.940 --> 00:30:42.019 the fact that he had everybody's back in that 00:30:42.019 --> 00:30:45.779 way, I think is a really positive note to launch 00:30:45.779 --> 00:30:48.339 into 2026 with. For sure. There's some energy 00:30:48.339 --> 00:30:50.480 there. And then as for the season, you know, 00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:52.839 with the retirement of Cromer, with offensive 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.240 line changes, I feel like this is the peak rushing 00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:58.460 season for James Cook's career. I don't know 00:30:58.460 --> 00:30:59.920 that he's going to get another rushing title 00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:02.420 with Cromer leaving. Yeah. And with a different 00:31:02.420 --> 00:31:05.119 scheme that's not Brady's where he gets 300 plus 00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.380 touches, like it's, I feel like that was, and 00:31:07.380 --> 00:31:08.880 I think that's awesome. It's good for him. I 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:10.940 think that that makes more of a case for his 00:31:10.940 --> 00:31:14.220 long -term legacy and success. But in a lot of 00:31:14.220 --> 00:31:17.839 ways that excites me because it means that potentially 00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.720 we'll be looking at an easy 40 touchdown season 00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:22.920 next year for Josh Allen because somebody will 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.680 come in and have to develop a scheme that takes 00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.779 the stallion and unrains him. Yes. Doesn't ask 00:31:29.779 --> 00:31:32.950 him. doesn't ask him to do things with a structure 00:31:32.950 --> 00:31:35.869 that doesn't allow him to do things when everything 00:31:35.869 --> 00:31:39.049 else falls apart, right? So, yeah, yeah, I think, 00:31:39.329 --> 00:31:42.069 listen, it sucks, but it's also exciting. Like, 00:31:42.210 --> 00:31:43.930 we'll, you know, we'll see where it goes. Any 00:31:43.930 --> 00:31:46.190 final words, JJ, before we close out here? As 00:31:46.190 --> 00:31:48.309 long as we have Josh Allen, Bill's football will 00:31:48.309 --> 00:31:50.329 still be fun. Exactly. Shoot, man, even when 00:31:50.329 --> 00:31:52.490 we didn't have Josh, it was, we still made it 00:31:52.490 --> 00:31:54.450 fun in our own way, but yeah, it's definitely 00:31:54.450 --> 00:31:56.549 better with J .A. 17 in there. All right, folks, 00:31:56.650 --> 00:31:58.609 a couple of quick housekeeping notes here. We 00:31:58.609 --> 00:32:01.140 are... The pod goes on hiatus. This is going 00:32:01.140 --> 00:32:02.680 to be the last pod we're going to record for 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:05.839 the 2025 season. We will come back at the start 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:07.819 of the league year here in March. JJ, I don't 00:32:07.819 --> 00:32:10.079 know about you. I need some time away from this 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.019 to like process, cope, but then also get reinvigorated 00:32:13.019 --> 00:32:16.680 for season six of Buffalo Bread, sir. Which will 00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:21.259 build up my mana to talk draft. Your super move 00:32:21.259 --> 00:32:24.539 bar, right? From the last five. Assemble enough 00:32:24.539 --> 00:32:27.359 combos with clean hits to get that super move 00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.900 bar before I can jump into a draft season. I'm 00:32:29.900 --> 00:32:32.180 still reeling. Yeah. So we're going to recoup. 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:34.579 Socials will still be semi -active. So if you 00:32:34.579 --> 00:32:36.160 got any thoughts, please feel free to hit us 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.140 up there. We are very limited on socials. We 00:32:38.140 --> 00:32:40.279 are only on Instagram and threads, but maybe 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.920 we'll grow that here in the off season too. JJ, 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.049 listen, as always. It is truly a pleasure to 00:32:47.049 --> 00:32:49.089 do this with you. When we started this thing, 00:32:49.509 --> 00:32:52.049 I did not think that it would A, go this long, 00:32:52.329 --> 00:32:54.630 or B, that we would garner some of the listenership 00:32:54.630 --> 00:32:57.109 that we have for two dads that just like to talk 00:32:57.109 --> 00:33:00.150 about bills. But this season, while it is sad 00:33:00.150 --> 00:33:01.950 to end, it's always just good to be here doing 00:33:01.950 --> 00:33:03.950 this with you. It's one of the best parts of 00:33:03.950 --> 00:33:06.089 my week. Yeah, absolutely. All right. All right. 00:33:06.210 --> 00:33:08.329 For all of you listening at home one final time 00:33:08.329 --> 00:33:12.109 in 2025, 2026 Bill season, like, share and subscribe 00:33:12.109 --> 00:33:14.690 wherever you get your pods, YouTube, Apple, Spotify. 00:33:14.890 --> 00:33:16.009 And as always, go Bills.