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Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread Podcast. We

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are recording the Thursday after the Miami Dolphins

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won their Super Bowl of the season against the

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Buffalo Bills to split the series of the year.

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And congratulations to all our Finns fans who

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will be sitting on their couch watching everyone

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else play in the playoffs. You got this one.

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Dan, where your head at? Dude, we're like, we're

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almost a week, a week removed from this game

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as we record this. And the the sauciness and

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the bitterness in your tone still appropriate.

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It's still appropriate. It was I mean, I posted

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a lot of feelings on social media and of course,

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with all social media posts. Sure, I'm not going

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to regret any of them as time goes on. But yeah,

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man, tough game. I will tell you this. I don't

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want to talk about it. We don't have to. That

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could be it. We're going to leave it there. I

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want to pretend it didn't happen. In fairness,

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though, I think we've put enough out on our socials.

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I think we've put enough out in kind of blips

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here and there on some of our channels to where

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people know how we feel about the game and everyone

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in Bill's media and Bill's mafia knows what went

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wrong with it. I would like to hit a reset if

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we could. We're at the halfway point of the Buffalo

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Bill season right now. And coming off a horrible

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loss like that, I feel the need to lighten the

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mood a bit. So I kind of want to play a game

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with you. And for those of you listeners at home

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who might remember this podcast when we first

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started it, way back when, when it was Keeping

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the Receipts, where JJ and I, our whole shtick,

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was kind of going through media headlines because

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at the time, the bills we saw as ascending, but

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mainstream media was doubting them. We would

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go through and we would literally call up headlines,

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call up video clips of people doubting the bills,

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and then turn it back around on them. I want

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to kind of harken back to the days of our founding,

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JJ. I want to play a game with you called Halfway

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Headlines. So we are actually at the Buffalo

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Bills. halfway point. They've played nine games

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here with eight left to go. And it's always fun

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to kind of look back on where things were at

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the beginning of the year versus where they are

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now and see kind of how some takes that have

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been put out there about Buffalo Bill's football

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have aged. So JJ, what I will present to you

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are five different headlines from training camp

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and into the first couple of weeks of the season.

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that are talking about a specific element of

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Buffalo Bill's football. It could be a position

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group. It could be a specific player. It could

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be things related to player contracts. And what

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I want you to do, JJ, is I want you to tell me

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how you think that particular headline has aged

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from then until now where we are midway through

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the season. And actually I've come up with a

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rating system I'm very proud of to kind of help

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make this succinct. All right, so I'm going to

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read you the headline and you're going to tell

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me one of three options, sir. Has this headline

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aged like fine wine, meaning it is gracefully

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aged and it is a credit to its vintage, i .e.

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It's a really good take that has held up and

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gotten even better over time. Option B, it has

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aged like milk. Started out okay, but then turned

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rotten pretty quickly. This is a take, as you

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probably guess, that has really aged poorly and

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is bad. And then option C, it's my personal favorite

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category, is aged like Paul Rudd. There are no

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hints that it is in fact aged, but only time

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will tell. In other words, this is a take that

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needs just a little bit more time before whether

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we know it is a good or bad take. How do you

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like those parameters, sir? And are you ready

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to dive in? I got to be honest, when I first

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read them, when you sent me the run of show,

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the the like Paul read read and like fine wine

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seemed like the same rating. Because honestly,

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that man. I mean, he's gotten better with time,

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in my opinion, right? But he has, he's like in

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a, he's in a permanent stasis. Like if you look,

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I was watching Clueless the other day, and I

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happened to call up a photo on my phone because

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I'm like, dude looks exactly the same as he did

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30 years ago when this movie came out. He has

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stayed the same, he has looked the same age for

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what feels like a quarter of a century. And there's

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one, there's two ways to look at this. One is

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that he's a vampire and he's like just permanently

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youthful. The other is that he just got his smile

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lines when he was 25 and he'll have them till

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he dies, right? Cause that's, I know what you're

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talking about, but I've looked at those old movies.

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The dude just has looked perpetually 32 for 25

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years and it started when he was like 19. So,

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you know. He sort of he hit a moment in time

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and then just stuck it for a while, I think.

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Which I am very envious of. JJ, if I were a headline,

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I would say I have aged like milk and I would

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really like to prefer to age like Paul Rudd.

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Me too. Yeah. All right. All right. Let's get

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into it, man. Headline number one. Here we go.

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This comes from the Democrat Chronicle August

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21st, 2025 straight out of Buffalo Bill's training

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camp. JJ, here is the headline. Cole Bishop struggles

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as the Bills look for answers at safety. What

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is your age rating on this one here at the midpoint

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through the season? We're going to go with fine

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wine, which you may find surprising because I

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do. I think that he I think where where you might

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say it's a milk rating is that he has had some

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breakout games. He's looked like he's starting

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to get it. It's starting to click in, especially

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when he's lined up next to Poir. But I will say.

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what was expected of him. Or maybe it's it's

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like Paul Rudd, you know, maybe not fine wine.

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Because I don't know if it's an exact bullseye

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of a headline. But I don't think that it is a

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freezing cold take and that he is some all pro

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safety that has definitely come and found his

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own. He he he still makes some mistakes. I've

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of course watched the last couple of games and

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the Chiefs game he was outstanding. But either

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game on either side post post bi -week. He still

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struggled. He still had some of the same things

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that we've seen before, failing to read the proper

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route, failing to provide the best, better leverage,

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failing to give the backup to his coverage players

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on the outside where they need it over the top

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or when they need someone to, you know, kind

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of squish up against the edge for them to help

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with a streaking receiver. So with all that,

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I think it's going to be Paul Rudd for me because

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I don't think we can say what Cole Bishop is

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as a starting NFL safety. until the end of the

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season. We just got to see more consistency week

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over week. I agree. I actually called this one

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Paul Rudd too. There is the temptation to say

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like milk because Cole Bishop has in fact splashed

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a lot. He's had some really high variance play,

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but he's hit that higher tier of the variance

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where he's made some really dynamic and athletic

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plays that have literally flipped certain drives

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in favor of the Bills. That being said though,

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I approach this more from less the Cole Bishop

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side and more the bills looking for answers at

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safety side. And I feel like that is spot on

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because I think while they're certainly trying

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to find their way with this Poyer Hancock platoon.

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opposite of Bishop that has allowed Bishop to

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play better. I do think time will tell if the

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Buffalo Bills have actually found their answer

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there. I actually have been advocating for throughout

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the course of the week as we've been gearing

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up for the Bucks game, I've been advocating for

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Jordan Hancock to get a few more snaps. I think

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athletically is going to be a better matchup

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for Kate Otten and some of the pass catchers

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the Tampa Bay is going to roll out there. So

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I think Paul read again because this one still

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needs a little bit time to tell before we know

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which way it is actually going to age, be it

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fully gracefully or be it like milk. So Paul

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read for me too, because the jury's out for me

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on the opposite side of this question. Yeah.

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No, I think that's fair. All right. Headline

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number two. I think this one's going to be a

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little bit easier, but then again, you could

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surprise me. Bill's fan favorite, Matt Milano,

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returning to all pro form and training camp as

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from Sports Illustrated July 29, 2025. JJ, how

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is this? How is this headline aged? This is such

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rotten milk that I wouldn't feed it to my dog,

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and I use her to dispose of some pretty rancid

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things. So, yeah, no, this is really, really

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nasty. I. having watched Matt Milano when he's

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been healthy, which is always a freaking question,

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this season, it looks like they've moved on one

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year too late, right? Like they changed his contract,

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they reduced his cap numbers for, or they gave

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him kind of a pay cut, but gave him a one year

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earlier release to free agency. I don't know

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that there's gonna, he's probably gonna be back

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on the bills as a vet minimum deal, as a depth

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linebacker next off season. And people are going

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to hate it because I think he just looks bad.

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He looks slow. He does not have any splash plays.

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He doesn't seem to be able to get off of run

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fits. He had this amazing slippery ability early

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in his career of even though he was sort of undersized,

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he was strong enough to slice through blocks

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and get to, you know, the tackle. He does not

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seem to have that anymore. He gets stuck. on

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guards, he gets stuck on centers when they're

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pulling. He doesn't seem to have the athleticism.

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You know, it's weird because it's like a light

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switch with a loose wire. Like every once in

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a while, you see him shoot to the sideline to

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take down a quarterback who's trying to flee

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the pocket. And you're like, Whoa, that's Matt

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Milano. But too often, he just kind of disappears

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in the middle. And then, of course, is the fact

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that he's only available half the snaps of the

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season so far. Yeah, I agree with you. This is

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an aged like milk take. And I fell for it to

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a training camp. I was very hopeful that Milano

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was going to regain his pro bowl, all pro form.

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Um, I was reading the hype. I was watching some

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of the clips coming out of camp. I'm like, we're

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going to get Matt Milano back for one solid good

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year as we make a run here. And the reality is,

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is the sideline to sideline speed, as you mentioned,

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it flashes every now and then, but man, his ability,

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his tackling in the run game. When he has left

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an open space against a running back or against

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a tight end, I mean, he just gets shook and it's

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really tough to watch a guy who was so underrated

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for so long rise to the prominence that he did

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and then see him kind of going out this way.

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I actually don't think he's going to be back

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next year, JJ. I actually think this is a Milano

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retiree year. I think this could be his last

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year playing professional football. The toll

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that the game has taken on his body. I think

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with what he is putting on film this year, the

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general interest in him is an undersized aging,

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oft injured. Linebacker, I don't think is going

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to draw a lot of interest from other teams, though

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I do agree with you. If he comes back, I think

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it's the bills because I think it's the only

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team that might be in the market for his services.

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I mean, couple that with how Terrell Bernard

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is playing this season. And I was so frustrated

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after the Miami game. I know we said we weren't

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going to talk about it, but I'm going to put

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a piece in here. Bernard, I get why Milano is

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declining with his ability to shed blockers.

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Bernard seems to have completely lost that ability

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comparative to his play last season. And I've

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been so frustrated watching him trying to find

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his run fits, even watching him in coverage because

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he's never had the sideline to sideline mobility

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that Milano has in past coverage. So Bernard's

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never brought that to the table, but add to the

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fact that he still doesn't have that. And now

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he's not as effective in the run game. I looked

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at spot track to see What are the terms of this

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extension that he signed with the bills and can

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we walk away from him next year? If need be with

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with a minimal dead cap I will say as opposed

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June 1 trade or cut it is far more palatable

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to walk away from true Terrell Bernard based

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on the numbers I'm seeing on spot track and over

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the cap and You know what? I'm kind of entertaining

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the idea it's crazy to think that we've gone

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from this headline to Are the Buffalo Bills resetting

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their entire linebacker room next year? Well,

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I think that and, you know, to be to be honest,

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I think that that's the, you know, that's not

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a headline that we're discussing. But, you know,

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I'm sure that there's a headline out there that's

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like Bills secure their core captain of their

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defense in Terrell Bernard contract. Right. Like

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that had to have been a headline. And I'm going

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to say milk on that one, too, because if this

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is what this is and I don't want to like I don't

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know that you abandoned him after the season,

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he isn't even as a post June one cut. You put

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the money in, but you definitely try to figure

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out what the heck about it made it look like

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he forgot how to play football. Because last

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year, his thing was instinctive play, interceptions,

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turnovers, forced fumbles, being around the ball

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all the time, having a great sense and coverage

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of squeezing routes and backing up into the passing

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zones. I don't know what is happening that he

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just seems to have forgotten how to do all of

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that. So, and I watched a couple of the games,

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all 22, with a specific eye toward, is it the

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huge shuffle of the defensive line? Is it Ed

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Oliver and Daquan Jones missing so much time?

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Players that he's come to be comfortable with

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in front of him on the, because we've talked

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about on this pod so many times. Middle linebacker

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play is, it's boom or bust based on the big guys

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in front of you on the line. And It's not that,

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like it's not just that. I think that has some

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impact on it from game to game. But there are

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so many snaps where Deion Walker and, you know,

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Fadarian Mathis or some other player has been

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on the line in front of him and has not let anybody

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get to him. And he's still making the bad read.

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He's still making the bad call. He's still not

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where he's supposed to be in coverage. So. Yeah,

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I don't know what's happening. And I think it's

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it's like milk. I'd love to give him a Paul Rudd

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and let him finish out the season to see what

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happens. But if he doesn't improve quickly, it's

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going to be a lost season and look like an absolute

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bust of a signing. Yeah. I mean, that is the

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one out of all these out of all of these offseason

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re signings right now that is looking the worst.

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And I know a lot of people are down on Christian

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Benford. I will say this about Benford. A we

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know he's hurt. He's always struggled with injuries

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throughout the course of his career. So that

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That aside, the Bills are asking him to do things

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that he's not really built to do and he's holding

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his own with. They've never asked him prior to

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the season to shadow the number one wide receiver

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on an opposing team. He's shadowing a lot more

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in a lot of games against the top pass catching

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target for an opposing squad. And the Buffalo

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Bills, they're playing more man defense, as we

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know. And Benford, while he can hold up okay

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in man, he can't hold up with that high of a

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volume playing man coverage while also shadowing

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the most athletic number one pass catcher for

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the opposing team. So he's been asked to play

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left -handed in service to the Bills trying to

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play more base and sell out to stop the run this

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season. I think Benford's explainable. I think

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Rousseau has hit his ceiling with this squad.

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He's always going to be an excellent run defending

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edge. He's just never going to be the guy that's

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going to get you a 12 or 13 sacks in a season.

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And I think as Bill's mafia, we've come to live

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with that. You gave the analogy about him. He

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is Robin, not Batman. We've got to find his Batman

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at some point. Right. But yeah, Bernard looks

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like the worst one out of the bunch right now.

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Bernard looks like the worst one of four bad

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signings. Just... Damn, man. I don't think the

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Benford one's that bad. I mean, yeah, no. Benford's

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not great based on his play. Shakir is also not

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great based on his play. And then Rousseau is

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not great. So... We gotta... Dude, we've gotta

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talk about Shakir. I wanna get through the game,

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because it's fun. But we gotta talk about Shakir.

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and why it seems like he is only allowed to be

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targeted behind the line of scrimmage. Yeah,

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I don't know. We'll talk about it when we get

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to the Bucks preview, but let's continue with

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our fun game here. All right, headline number

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three, JJ. This one comes from The Athletic,

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September 2nd, 2025. Kincaid unlikely to be a

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full -time player, i .e. his percentage of Snapshare

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at the tight end position will not be the majority

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of Snapshare. Mean it's milk right because he

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became the core pass catcher in this entire offense

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like he is the most or he's one of the highest

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targeted People unfortunately Keon Coleman, I

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think still leads all pass catchers in snap share

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Shiki now Shakira past here past him in the Miami

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game Yeah, they're still close which is disgusting

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very close because Keon should not be seeing

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snaps Except for I mean, I guess he's an okay

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run blocker We're going to get to you next. But

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yeah, no, this age like Mill, Dalton Kincaid

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is when healthy, ultimately super critical and

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should be getting most of the tight end snaps

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and has been seeing them even in two and three.

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Well, of course, he's been seeing them in two

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and three tight end sets, but has been seeing

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them even on rundowns where he's an extra tight

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end in an 11 or 12 personnel set. And that's,

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you know, what you what you want to see is him

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available. I, we're going to depart on this one.

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I'm actually going to say this is aged like fine

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wine. I think this take was spot on from a statistical

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standpoint because at the time of his injury,

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JJ, Dalton Kincaid was playing just under 50

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% of total snaps available per game. I mean,

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we know the Buffalo Bills have been kind of slow

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rolling him. We know that they prefer Jackson

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Hawes and a lot of obvious run blocking situations.

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And as a result, Kincaid hasn't even really been

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on the field for a lot of these early down situations

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where the Bills are bringing out heavy sets and

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pounding the rock with James Cook. So if you

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take the article is in the true spirit of the

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article, which is Kinkade, not that he's not

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going to be a good player, is that he's not going

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to be a full -time player and take the majority

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of snaps in that tight end room. I do think that

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has held water. Yeah, I mean I guess that I guess

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that's fair if you're going to just based on

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snapshot it has it was accurate for that It was

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absolutely his role in the offense that was way

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more important than I think that that headline

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implies Yes, and his role his role in the offense

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to Necessitates that if should should he when

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gonna be positive when he returns from his most

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recent injury that al's him The bills are gonna

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be tempted to slow roll him but they need production

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from him immediately. And listen, Dawson, I loved,

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we all love Dawson Knox, but Dawson Knox does

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not bring to the pass catching game what Dalton

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Kincaid does. They need to drastically rethink

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Kincaid's usage should he come back healthy and

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ready to play at some point this season, because

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they just need him on the field. A guy, JJ, that

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you would probably argue we don't need on the

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field comes next here. Headline number four.

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This one comes from CBS Sports. From September

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7th, 2025. Uh, let's just enjoy this one. Why

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can Coleman was Dave Richards breakout sleeper

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of 2025 and what his massive week one means moving

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forward. JJ. Do you do. So this is wine for you.

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This is disgusting. This milk is so curdled that

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you can. can turn the jug upside down and nothing

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moves. Like it is so sour and soiled. He is a

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breakout nothing. Like he is terrible at football.

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And I'm tired of Josh Allen trying to force the

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ball to him. And I'm so sick of him. And I just

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wish they would have traded him with the deadline.

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I don't care. I don't think he's going to redeem

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himself. He's got a shit attitude and worse play.

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Like what do you want from me? Oh, man. All right.

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You make a strong case and I'm scared to say

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anything different. This is definitely not a

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wine case here, but I'm going to say Paul Rudd

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because I do think we just, I just think we need

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a little bit more time on this one to find out

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how in fact it is going to age. I've been, I

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feel like we've had this dialogue and we don't

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need to dive more into the, the Keyon discourse,

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but I feel like we've had this dialogue over

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the course of our last two or three pods. I mean,

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I went back and reviewed some of our old clips.

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Keyon has been a prop bet for us for the past,

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I think three podcasts. Um, most notably last

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one where I lost a Buffalo bottle, bottle of

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Buffalo trace to you, which sucks, but I will

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make do on that. I just think. I think. He is

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sharp as hell when it comes to his football IQ.

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We all saw that last year. I think he knows what

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he needs to be doing in the position that he

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is. And I think he is actually taking on an undue

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amount of guilt for his poor play that's not

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coming through in a lot of his communication

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via the media and through the press. And I do

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think it's starting to show up in his effort

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on the field to that overall frustration with

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his play. He bears part of the blame for it,

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JJ. But so does this coaching staff for putting

00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:07.599
him in a position that Every forget me and you

00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:11.140
who podcasts from our living rooms, right? Anyone

00:22:11.140 --> 00:22:14.440
Matt Harmon the reception perception guy, right?

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Pff and all the great statisticians they have

00:22:17.819 --> 00:22:23.599
there Mel Kuyper all the Todd McShay Everybody

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the book on this kid coming out of college was

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that he was a big power slot And that he didn't

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have the route tree yet. He didn't have the ball

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skills, the separation ability, the ability to

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get off press that you need to be on X Island

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for your particular team. Everybody knew it and

00:22:41.829 --> 00:22:44.990
the Bills have forced him into this role. And

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I think it has stunted his development. But I

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also think, too, it just hasn't done the kid

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any favors with regard to contributing to the

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success of this team because they're putting

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him in a role that it seemed like everybody but

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them understood he wasn't going to be successful

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in. Okay. I just, we're going to talk about this

00:23:06.130 --> 00:23:07.890
at the Tampa Bay premiere. At least I'm going

00:23:07.890 --> 00:23:10.450
to talk about this, right? You can cut that clip

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because that was my moment. That was my impersonation

00:23:12.950 --> 00:23:16.230
of Josh Allen when at the press conference last

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year, they were like, you know, the offense is

00:23:18.190 --> 00:23:19.829
broken and blah, blah, blah. How do you feel?

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And he was just like, okay. Oh yeah, when someone

00:23:22.579 --> 00:23:25.160
said this, this doesn't look like a championship

00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:28.259
offense. Right. Yeah. Well, and that's, that's

00:23:28.259 --> 00:23:30.160
all I have. That's all I have for that. Cause

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it's like, yeah, like we've had that conversation,

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but at some point in time, you are being put

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in a position that the coaches believe you can

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win in and you are not winning in it. And I get

00:23:42.859 --> 00:23:44.960
that some of that fault might land on them because

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you're just not built for that success. Sure.

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But like, I don't know what to tell you, bro.

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Like you got drafted to be an ex and you probably

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at some point in that pre -draft process in the

00:23:56.970 --> 00:23:58.670
interview with your team said you believed you

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could do that. And then in practice every day,

00:24:01.269 --> 00:24:04.450
you're in that role, repping it. And you still

00:24:04.450 --> 00:24:06.950
completely bungle every big moment and you're

00:24:06.950 --> 00:24:08.789
never in the right position and you literally

00:24:08.789 --> 00:24:10.890
get bodied and pushed out of bounds. So you're

00:24:10.890 --> 00:24:14.410
no longer a viable passing option. Like you're

00:24:14.410 --> 00:24:17.140
a huge body strong receiver that's supposed to

00:24:17.140 --> 00:24:20.099
be your game. I'm so tired of watching 511 corners

00:24:20.099 --> 00:24:22.039
push him so he steps out of bounds, then he can

00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:25.599
no longer catch the ball like, whatever. Now,

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listen, I have no counterpoint to that at all.

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I mean, in the Miami game, he was mashed up against

00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:34.660
a corner that was of equal size of him for the

00:24:34.660 --> 00:24:38.039
most part. But again, fourth string corner. You

00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:41.559
are you're a you're a top you're a top 35 pick

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in your draft class You're supposed to be the

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number one wide out on this team I I totally

00:24:46.619 --> 00:24:49.819
get that frustration and he does constantly lose

00:24:49.819 --> 00:24:54.519
jump balls and physical matchups to smaller DBs

00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:56.799
that are not athletically as gifted as him, but

00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.779
operate with better technique, right? Well, that's

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what I'm saying is like when he plays against

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people who are athletic mismatches He doesn't

00:25:04.140 --> 00:25:07.460
look like he's a better athlete and that That's

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all I need to know about it. Paul Rudd. This

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is Paul Rudd for me. This is Paul Rudd. I'm calling

00:25:14.460 --> 00:25:17.000
it milk. You can call it Rudd. All right. I'm

00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:18.920
definitely going Paul Rudd on this one. All right.

00:25:18.980 --> 00:25:22.079
Last one. JJ, this one was kind of fun because

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we are fans, as you know, and we often have we

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literally have a segment called Prediction Sure

00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:28.220
to Go Wrong. So I thought it'd be fun to get

00:25:28.220 --> 00:25:30.839
some fan takes on this one. So this headline

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is from pro football network dot com. This is

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just after the James Cook signing headline. He

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got overpaid in quotation marks. Fans react to

00:25:40.329 --> 00:25:43.369
the James Cook signing. Some other fan reactions

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that I found in this article, JJ, quote, 12 million

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for a non -game changing running back, end quote.

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Quote, 12 million when the bills had all the

00:25:53.650 --> 00:25:56.509
leverage isn't ideal, end quote. And then the

00:25:56.509 --> 00:26:00.220
last one. Quote, way overpaid. Do not draft James

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Cook early in your fantasy drafts. End quote.

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That last one's probably going to sting for a

00:26:05.339 --> 00:26:07.819
lot of people if they followed that advice. JJ,

00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:09.759
I think we're both going to be on the same page

00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:12.000
with the one where you at. Oh, this is this is

00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:14.539
spoiled milk like James Cook is hard milk. He

00:26:14.539 --> 00:26:16.819
is a top three. Yeah, he's a top three running

00:26:16.819 --> 00:26:19.240
back in the league. I was I was not expecting

00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:22.440
this level of step up in his game. He has looked

00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.390
more elusive, more physical, more. like somehow

00:26:26.390 --> 00:26:29.049
has more juice to break and break away speed.

00:26:29.450 --> 00:26:31.289
When the blocking is right, and the teams are

00:26:31.289 --> 00:26:33.549
not absolutely selling out to stop him and stuff

00:26:33.549 --> 00:26:36.549
in the box with nine players. He's every bit

00:26:36.549 --> 00:26:38.630
of the running back you can build the franchise

00:26:38.630 --> 00:26:42.089
around. Yeah, 100%. He is Jonathan Taylor, Saquon

00:26:42.089 --> 00:26:44.970
Barkley, you know, that type of back. Absolutely.

00:26:45.150 --> 00:26:47.910
No, I think he definitely is earning his way

00:26:47.910 --> 00:26:52.190
into those conversations for sure. Again, I think

00:26:52.190 --> 00:26:54.170
the only piece of James's game that we want to

00:26:54.170 --> 00:26:56.490
see develop a little bit more and I actually

00:26:56.490 --> 00:26:58.230
think it exists It's just about the coaching

00:26:58.230 --> 00:27:00.690
staff trusting him. I'd like to see him in on

00:27:00.690 --> 00:27:04.450
more third downs I know I know his touch rate

00:27:04.450 --> 00:27:08.470
way high way outpacing last year for total touches

00:27:08.470 --> 00:27:11.849
of what they They think he can handle but man

00:27:11.849 --> 00:27:13.730
they need him on the field in some of these third

00:27:13.730 --> 00:27:16.250
down Situations like it's gotten to the point

00:27:16.250 --> 00:27:18.750
where when Ray Davis is on the field or when

00:27:18.750 --> 00:27:21.210
Ty Johnson's on the field The other team kind

00:27:21.210 --> 00:27:24.009
of knows what is coming. I don't think Cook is

00:27:24.009 --> 00:27:27.069
the liability we think he is in pass pro, but

00:27:27.069 --> 00:27:30.549
even if let's say, even if he is right. I have

00:27:30.549 --> 00:27:33.480
no problem. using James Cook as another blitz

00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:35.799
beater option on some of these third and obvious

00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:38.200
passing downs to leak him right into the flat

00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.779
or something like that. I mean, the Kansas City

00:27:40.779 --> 00:27:43.279
Chiefs literally in the absence of a running

00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:47.700
game do have done that for years under Andy Reid.

00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.000
I don't know why we can't fold James Cook into

00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:52.440
the similar type of philosophy and scheme. Yeah.

00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.279
Well, just the fact that he's not utilized in

00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.490
the short passing game. At all like crazy. He

00:27:58.490 --> 00:28:02.250
had what he's had four targets this season again.

00:28:02.630 --> 00:28:04.509
Is that true? Is that I'm gonna I'm gonna look

00:28:04.509 --> 00:28:06.170
that up. I looked that up I'm gonna look that

00:28:06.170 --> 00:28:09.650
up if that's true because he didn't he was Yeah,

00:28:10.049 --> 00:28:12.289
he has not he was not targeted in the passing

00:28:12.289 --> 00:28:14.269
game for three weeks when the Bills won other

00:28:14.269 --> 00:28:18.190
two game lost skid I will JJ that's gonna infuriate

00:28:18.190 --> 00:28:22.039
me if that is in fact the case All right, you

00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:24.680
keep talking about stuff. No, I'll just continue

00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.740
on that note is that the number of times we've

00:28:27.740 --> 00:28:30.460
talked in this pod about the opponents having

00:28:30.460 --> 00:28:33.920
weak linebackers or weak safeties and tight ends

00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:36.000
and running backs being targeted in the short

00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:39.740
middle of the field as a tactic being ideal,

00:28:40.180 --> 00:28:44.299
and then Joe Brady just refuses to do that. And

00:28:44.299 --> 00:28:45.799
it's not even like he's throwing it to other

00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:47.059
running backs. They're not throwing it to any

00:28:47.059 --> 00:28:50.140
running backs. And then, you know, you have Kinkade,

00:28:50.460 --> 00:28:52.299
who for some reason they believe can only be

00:28:52.299 --> 00:28:56.680
targeted 20 or more yards downfield. And Knox,

00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:59.440
who usually drops passes when we most need him

00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.839
to not drop them, creates a situation where it

00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:04.579
just seems like they're putting the wrong players

00:29:04.579 --> 00:29:07.259
in the wrong positions in the wrong times at

00:29:07.259 --> 00:29:10.579
the wrong depth of target. And it's really frustrating.

00:29:11.579 --> 00:29:12.980
And we'll definitely get into that because I

00:29:12.980 --> 00:29:14.400
know that that's one of the talking points you

00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:16.920
have for the Bucks preview is, you know, how

00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:20.759
the Bills offense needs to evolve if it can.

00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:24.079
And in one of those ways it needs to evolve is

00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:27.839
to figure out a more creative short passing game,

00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.019
not just these weird outside whip screens that

00:29:31.019 --> 00:29:33.799
teams can scheme the Bills into forcing the issue

00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.200
to make the Bills throw. 100 % all right. I've

00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.359
got so he has been he has had 20 targets this

00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:43.579
year Through I mean, that's not that's not good.

00:29:43.579 --> 00:29:45.859
That's like two targets a game Yeah, and he said

00:29:45.859 --> 00:29:49.400
18 receptions So he's averaged two receptions

00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:51.960
per game over the course of the first nine games

00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.039
of the Buffalo Bill season here Which JJ sadly

00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.480
is exactly on track with how he's been used in

00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:59.660
the passing game for the entirety of his career.

00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:05.349
No No, yeah, no, so like What can Coleman's getting

00:30:05.349 --> 00:30:08.130
an average of six targets per game? I know I

00:30:08.130 --> 00:30:11.190
know I want I want James Cook to have four of

00:30:11.190 --> 00:30:14.069
those like those numbers should be flipped I

00:30:14.069 --> 00:30:16.869
mean I I mean can we give him some of the like

00:30:16.869 --> 00:30:19.750
Shakir behind the line of scrimmage stuff like

00:30:19.750 --> 00:30:22.809
Shakir in the flat type like can we give him

00:30:22.809 --> 00:30:25.190
some of those and use Shakir more in the intermediate

00:30:25.190 --> 00:30:27.390
routes you know let's get into the preview because

00:30:27.390 --> 00:30:30.299
I want to start it I want to start it with the

00:30:30.299 --> 00:30:31.940
passing game. That's the thing that I think we've

00:30:31.940 --> 00:30:34.079
been fixated on the most, right? So let's talk

00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:35.880
about this Bucks preview. Buffalo Bills have

00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:39.640
a very, very important game coming up against

00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:42.400
the Bucks, JJ. I still think there's runway for

00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.539
a wild card for them, even if they drop this

00:30:44.539 --> 00:30:46.720
game, but this game is still no less pivotal

00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:49.000
to me because I want to see two things out of

00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.960
them. I want to see evolution. I want to see

00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.259
this scheme, particularly on the offensive side

00:30:54.259 --> 00:30:56.940
of the ball, change and adapt for the personnel

00:30:56.940 --> 00:31:01.480
that they have and to answer some of what opposing

00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.019
teams are rolling out there again. So I want

00:31:03.019 --> 00:31:05.680
to see evolution and I want to see edge, man.

00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:08.519
This team has not played with an edge in a very,

00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:13.019
very long time. And they are, to a large extent,

00:31:13.539 --> 00:31:15.759
one of the more physical teams when you look

00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.539
at the way they're built. how their four -man

00:31:18.539 --> 00:31:21.220
pass rush is so vicious this season on the defensive

00:31:21.220 --> 00:31:23.640
side, and how the offensive line are absolute

00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.299
maulers in the run game. For a team that plays

00:31:26.299 --> 00:31:28.880
with that kind of physicality, they don't play

00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.440
with a ton of edge. There are times where as

00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:34.579
a unit they look lost. And then I'm really getting

00:31:34.579 --> 00:31:37.099
tired in these post -game press conferences of

00:31:37.099 --> 00:31:39.660
seeing McDermott being like, yeah, man, we should

00:31:39.660 --> 00:31:42.619
be able to pass the ball with our MVP QB. I can't

00:31:42.619 --> 00:31:46.759
figure out why. And seeing Josh just so dejected.

00:31:46.829 --> 00:31:49.849
I want them to I want them to bubble up and show

00:31:49.849 --> 00:31:52.410
some of the anger and the edge and the fire that

00:31:52.410 --> 00:31:54.309
they have shown when their backs have been against

00:31:54.309 --> 00:31:58.009
this corner or backs against this wall in previous

00:31:58.009 --> 00:32:00.349
seasons to this. I want to see some of that.

00:32:02.109 --> 00:32:06.710
Yeah, for me, it's it's when when with evolution,

00:32:07.549 --> 00:32:10.309
messy when looking like the same abysmal up and

00:32:10.309 --> 00:32:13.369
down team. And then loss with evolution. Like,

00:32:13.369 --> 00:32:15.930
that's the way I rank those outcomes. Oh, without

00:32:15.930 --> 00:32:19.690
a doubt. The win for me matters most. Even if

00:32:19.690 --> 00:32:22.809
it doesn't look great. I know Bill's mafia likes

00:32:22.809 --> 00:32:25.910
to, you know, watch the Bills stumble and look

00:32:25.910 --> 00:32:28.549
sloppy to a 10 point win and then complain all

00:32:28.549 --> 00:32:31.329
week as if they just lost, you know, an AFC championship

00:32:31.329 --> 00:32:34.609
game. I'm fine with those. I'm like, I move on

00:32:34.609 --> 00:32:36.369
to next week. Let's see what you got. If you

00:32:36.369 --> 00:32:38.990
got out of the game healthy with the W, whatever.

00:32:40.419 --> 00:32:45.539
But yeah, I so some of the guys I am on like

00:32:45.539 --> 00:32:50.319
a fan's friend chat with have said it a few times

00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.500
recently that like they just want to see a team

00:32:52.500 --> 00:32:55.240
that looks championship caliber, that looks prepared,

00:32:55.460 --> 00:32:58.119
coached, like they know what they're doing, that

00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.400
they come out and play consistent from the first

00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:04.680
whistle to the last whistle and are in control

00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:06.440
and look like, you know, and look like the type

00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.539
of team that we believe the Bills are. And that

00:33:08.539 --> 00:33:14.309
most early preseason bettors and talking heads

00:33:14.309 --> 00:33:15.809
in the media would have said they were, which

00:33:15.809 --> 00:33:17.710
is a contender for a championship. Right now,

00:33:17.789 --> 00:33:19.910
they look like a pretender, and they recently

00:33:19.910 --> 00:33:23.369
were named as a pretender. And I think ESPN,

00:33:23.829 --> 00:33:25.910
somebody wrote an article that the Bills are

00:33:25.910 --> 00:33:29.890
a pretender franchise. And so they need to look

00:33:29.890 --> 00:33:32.190
way better if they want to lose that reputation.

00:33:32.829 --> 00:33:36.089
But they have also had a loss to a Tampa Bay

00:33:36.089 --> 00:33:38.990
team in recent history that ended up spurring

00:33:38.990 --> 00:33:41.849
them on to one of their dramatic late season

00:33:41.849 --> 00:33:43.869
runs. And I wouldn't mind some of that mojo again

00:33:43.869 --> 00:33:45.829
this year. The last time they played the Bucs

00:33:45.829 --> 00:33:48.269
with their backs against the wall to this level

00:33:48.269 --> 00:33:51.289
was 2021 against the Tom Brady led Tampa Bay

00:33:51.289 --> 00:33:53.950
Buccaneers. That was the OT game where Josh just

00:33:53.950 --> 00:33:56.410
went off in the second half, ran all over the

00:33:56.410 --> 00:33:59.210
Bucs, threw all over the Bucs in a losing effort.

00:33:59.549 --> 00:34:02.480
But that then set the tone. for the remainder

00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.119
of the back half of that season of the Bills

00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.759
front of the playoffs, right? They found their

00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.659
way to another agonizing defeat at the hands

00:34:09.659 --> 00:34:13.099
of the Kansas City Chiefs. That's why I don't

00:34:13.099 --> 00:34:15.219
care. That's why I'm just like, nah, I don't

00:34:15.219 --> 00:34:17.519
care how we get there. It's only going to matter

00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.079
when it looks like it's supposed to in the playoffs.

00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.619
All right. Let's get into some of the specifics

00:34:22.619 --> 00:34:25.019
of this game, JJ. You want to start with the

00:34:25.019 --> 00:34:26.599
offensive side or defensive side of the ball?

00:34:26.809 --> 00:34:28.429
Yeah, let's start with the offense because we

00:34:28.429 --> 00:34:31.210
need to talk about how Khalil Shakir is only

00:34:31.210 --> 00:34:35.909
a screen target how Keon Coleman somehow frustratingly

00:34:35.909 --> 00:34:38.849
gets targeted on third and long when he has not

00:34:38.849 --> 00:34:42.789
proven he can do that ever and How they don't

00:34:42.789 --> 00:34:47.030
throw to running backs Let's oh man. Let's talk

00:34:47.030 --> 00:34:49.070
about Shakira. Let's talk about Shakira. I want

00:34:49.070 --> 00:34:50.769
to talk about him first All right before we get

00:34:50.769 --> 00:34:52.289
into that because we were just talking about

00:34:52.289 --> 00:34:54.190
the Patriots. I keep glancing up I have the Patriots

00:34:54.190 --> 00:34:58.630
Jets game on in the background Drake May was

00:34:58.630 --> 00:35:01.250
just under severe pressure from the Jets. He's

00:35:01.250 --> 00:35:04.809
already been sacked a few times and he had a

00:35:04.809 --> 00:35:06.869
perfect opportunity to dump the ball down to

00:35:06.869 --> 00:35:09.769
Henderson with no one around him because, and

00:35:09.769 --> 00:35:13.250
this is why it turned a second and 10 into a

00:35:13.250 --> 00:35:17.070
first down, because he is such a good thrower

00:35:17.070 --> 00:35:19.530
of the deep ball and they have such good deep

00:35:19.530 --> 00:35:23.530
routes dialed up for him that the team that they're

00:35:23.530 --> 00:35:25.989
playing against the Jets who are, you know, not

00:35:25.989 --> 00:35:29.030
very good, weren't able to keep anybody up close

00:35:29.030 --> 00:35:32.230
to the line. And they had to give a cushion underneath

00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:34.010
because they were afraid of the 20 plus yard

00:35:34.010 --> 00:35:37.650
pass. That's so sad to watch this and know how

00:35:37.650 --> 00:35:40.510
the Bills play football and that Josh Allen doesn't

00:35:40.510 --> 00:35:42.769
even have those short dump downs available because

00:35:42.769 --> 00:35:44.030
everyone's crowding up because they're like,

00:35:44.130 --> 00:35:45.869
you're not going to beat us over the top. Either

00:35:45.869 --> 00:35:48.489
A, your wide receivers can't get there or B,

00:35:48.530 --> 00:35:50.989
you're so inaccurate throwing past 20 yards that

00:35:50.989 --> 00:35:53.190
you're never going to hit one. Like what happened?

00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:56.699
Let's go ahead, take it from there. Why doesn't

00:35:56.699 --> 00:36:00.000
Josh Allen throw a deep ball? Go, Dan. Why doesn't

00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:01.760
Josh Allen throw a deep ball? And this brings

00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:06.059
me back to the Khalil Shakir piece. The data

00:36:06.059 --> 00:36:08.340
says that he is running those intermediate routes.

00:36:09.219 --> 00:36:11.820
When you look on film, especially because the

00:36:11.820 --> 00:36:14.280
Bills are facing man coverage at the rate that

00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.719
they are. He's not uncovering from into from

00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.679
one -on -one coverage, right? He is not not as

00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:24.519
adept at finding Some of those soft spots in

00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.940
the intermediate zone as he is to the zone closer

00:36:27.940 --> 00:36:30.619
to the line of scrimmage I'm not saying he can't

00:36:30.619 --> 00:36:33.739
do that I'm saying right now because the way

00:36:33.739 --> 00:36:36.380
this wide receiver room is constructed and because

00:36:36.380 --> 00:36:39.139
he is usually playing in the assembly of wide

00:36:39.139 --> 00:36:42.550
receivers that he is No one needs to dedicate

00:36:42.550 --> 00:36:46.510
resources to another area that would make him

00:36:46.510 --> 00:36:49.510
better, make him more available in the intermediate

00:36:49.510 --> 00:36:52.409
parts of the field. Like teams feel pretty comfortable

00:36:52.409 --> 00:36:54.849
deploying the bare minimum around us resources,

00:36:55.349 --> 00:36:57.929
each level of our passing concepts to the point

00:36:57.929 --> 00:37:00.570
where you can't take advantage of guy like Shakir.

00:37:01.019 --> 00:37:03.000
I know we all trashed the Amari Cooper trade

00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.000
in hindsight last year, JJ, because from a production

00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.880
standpoint, we just didn't get what we wanted

00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.280
out of him. But we tend to forget that before

00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:12.849
he went down with that wrist injury, Teams had

00:37:12.849 --> 00:37:15.269
to respect Amari Cooper like he was the old Amari

00:37:15.269 --> 00:37:18.070
Cooper, and it opened things up tremendously

00:37:18.070 --> 00:37:21.230
for the rest of this wide receiver room. And

00:37:21.230 --> 00:37:23.010
Khalil Shakur had some of his best individual

00:37:23.010 --> 00:37:25.809
receiving games when Amari Cooper was on the

00:37:25.809 --> 00:37:29.269
squad. They're lacking that element, that big

00:37:29.269 --> 00:37:31.570
threat. Shakur's never gonna be that for as good

00:37:31.570 --> 00:37:34.650
as he is. He's never gonna fully be Amon Rasay

00:37:34.650 --> 00:37:37.090
Brown, right? He's not gonna be the big threat.

00:37:37.369 --> 00:37:40.969
He needs that alpha target to help. take away

00:37:40.969 --> 00:37:42.929
some of those resources from the parts of the

00:37:42.929 --> 00:37:45.949
field he likes to exploit so we can better maximize

00:37:45.949 --> 00:37:48.670
his route trees. I think that's the problem with

00:37:48.670 --> 00:37:51.570
Shakir is that is an individual matchup winner

00:37:51.570 --> 00:37:53.909
in the intermediate part of the field, be it

00:37:53.909 --> 00:37:56.469
man or be its own. He's just not the type of

00:37:56.469 --> 00:37:58.769
guy who's going to be able to win on his own

00:37:58.769 --> 00:38:01.650
in that way. So the Buffalo Bills use his Yak

00:38:01.650 --> 00:38:03.190
ability and they play him closer to the line

00:38:03.190 --> 00:38:07.719
of scrimmage. And yeah, and it just feels like

00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.300
this is I'm sorry. I'm like negative bills mafia

00:38:10.300 --> 00:38:13.280
right now It just feels like you really are I'm

00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:21.739
in a dark place So but that's like that's just

00:38:21.739 --> 00:38:25.679
the the the common theme that is like the repeating

00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.880
trope of this Bill's team is The players that

00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.320
they have and the players they reward are role

00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:35.320
players they don't have those A1 alpha dog players

00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.380
other than Josh Allen and James Cook. Maybe end

00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:40.559
of list, right? Like they just don't got them.

00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:42.719
Like Greg Rousseau cannot do it alone. He needs

00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.179
somebody who's better than him, opposite him.

00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:47.380
Khalil Shakir cannot do it alone. He needs someone

00:38:47.380 --> 00:38:50.960
better than him, opposite him. On defense, Terrell

00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:54.260
Bernard cannot do it alone. He needs huge, excellent

00:38:54.260 --> 00:38:56.179
defensive linemen to keep him clean for him to

00:38:56.179 --> 00:38:58.360
have a good look at it, or he seems to be completely

00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.619
ineffective. Cole Bishop. cannot be the best

00:39:01.619 --> 00:39:04.059
safety on the field. He needs somebody strong,

00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.739
a strong, you know, guiding presence as a veteran

00:39:06.739 --> 00:39:09.619
like Jordan Poirier out there, or somebody speedy

00:39:09.619 --> 00:39:12.039
like Hancock out there to twist it. Like that

00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:14.320
just, it's just this repeating over and over

00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:16.780
trope of Kalashnikar can't get it done because

00:39:16.780 --> 00:39:18.360
somebody needs to take coverage away from him.

00:39:18.420 --> 00:39:22.500
And like that, we just gave him, you know, top

00:39:22.500 --> 00:39:25.920
15 in the league money at wide receiver, and

00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:29.389
he can't do anything on his own. No, I, listen,

00:39:29.469 --> 00:39:32.690
I get your frustration and, but it goes back

00:39:32.690 --> 00:39:35.969
to less of the fault of the individual players

00:39:35.969 --> 00:39:38.769
and even less of the fault of Brady and back

00:39:38.769 --> 00:39:41.849
to this roster build. I will say though on a

00:39:41.849 --> 00:39:46.670
positive, positive end to things. The bills are

00:39:46.670 --> 00:39:48.989
literally, it feels like one piece away from

00:39:48.989 --> 00:39:51.409
being able to unlock the remainder of the potential

00:39:51.409 --> 00:39:54.110
in this wide receiver room. I don't think that

00:39:54.110 --> 00:39:56.650
person is necessarily Gabe Davis, who I think

00:39:56.650 --> 00:39:58.909
is going to play in this game. And that'll segue

00:39:58.909 --> 00:40:02.130
us to kind of our next piece of this. With Dalton

00:40:02.130 --> 00:40:04.449
Kincaid out though, I do think the positioning

00:40:04.449 --> 00:40:07.769
of Gabe Davis would allow for some interesting

00:40:07.769 --> 00:40:10.610
things to happen schematically for this wide

00:40:10.610 --> 00:40:13.150
receiver room that may be a creative way to unlock

00:40:13.150 --> 00:40:17.019
some of what they can potentially do. Don't kids

00:40:17.019 --> 00:40:19.760
not playing in this game JJ or I doubt he's going

00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:21.840
to play in this game They have listed him as

00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:24.260
week to week and they have if history is any

00:40:24.260 --> 00:40:25.820
indicator They're gonna be very careful with

00:40:25.820 --> 00:40:29.179
how they handle him Gabe Davis has played the

00:40:29.179 --> 00:40:31.940
tight end position I use air quotes when I say

00:40:31.940 --> 00:40:34.260
that he's played that tight end position in the

00:40:34.260 --> 00:40:37.000
absence of Kincaid before and some of their heavier

00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.400
slots we know he's a he's an a plus run blocker

00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:44.340
I actually think if we see Gabe Davis rolled

00:40:44.340 --> 00:40:47.090
out there Of course, then I'm going to be surprised.

00:40:47.150 --> 00:40:48.949
I shouldn't be surprised when this doesn't happen.

00:40:49.329 --> 00:40:51.210
But if we see Gabe Davis rolled out there, I

00:40:51.210 --> 00:40:53.469
actually think it's more in the Kincaid role

00:40:53.469 --> 00:40:56.230
in 13 personnel. He all of a sudden is the guy

00:40:56.230 --> 00:40:58.670
in motion to uncover man or zone pre snap for

00:40:58.670 --> 00:41:02.610
Josh. And I think it adds the ability to do some

00:41:02.610 --> 00:41:06.010
different things passing wise out of that particular

00:41:06.010 --> 00:41:08.369
set in that particular formation. If you can

00:41:08.369 --> 00:41:11.409
get Khalil Shakir in a Z position or even the

00:41:11.409 --> 00:41:15.289
X position, but in a condensed formation, And

00:41:15.289 --> 00:41:17.349
you put Gabe Davis in motion, and you've got

00:41:17.349 --> 00:41:20.309
Shakir playing next to either Davis or Dawson

00:41:20.309 --> 00:41:23.110
Knox, you've got the ability to throw a big body

00:41:23.110 --> 00:41:25.050
in front of Shakir right off the line of scrimmage,

00:41:25.369 --> 00:41:27.130
to run a little bit of a pick route for him,

00:41:27.409 --> 00:41:29.590
and get him free early off the line of scrimmage.

00:41:29.630 --> 00:41:31.809
And that might be the key to opening up some

00:41:31.809 --> 00:41:33.610
of these deeper parts of the field for him out

00:41:33.610 --> 00:41:37.849
of those heavier sets. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I

00:41:37.849 --> 00:41:40.010
agree with you. I could I could tell you're like,

00:41:40.110 --> 00:41:41.909
but they're not going to do it because they suck

00:41:41.909 --> 00:41:45.250
at their jobs. Well, that's I mean, it's so hard.

00:41:45.409 --> 00:41:47.070
It's so hard to believe that they're going to

00:41:47.070 --> 00:41:49.630
do anything that we know they should do because

00:41:49.630 --> 00:41:51.989
they just don't. And like, I understand completely

00:41:51.989 --> 00:41:54.190
everyone was like, why doesn't why don't they

00:41:54.190 --> 00:41:57.889
do 50 % play action? It's so effective. It's

00:41:57.889 --> 00:41:59.940
I mean, there's a Probably a big part of it that

00:41:59.940 --> 00:42:02.619
Josh Allen doesn't like it. Elite quarterbacks

00:42:02.619 --> 00:42:05.739
from Time Memorial have not liked play action

00:42:05.739 --> 00:42:08.219
pass plays, right? Like it is a thing. Joe Burrow

00:42:08.219 --> 00:42:10.780
refuses to never play under center. Joe Burrow

00:42:10.780 --> 00:42:14.719
refuses. You know, Ben Roethlisberger hated them.

00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.099
Brett Farr was like, I'm not doing that. Right.

00:42:17.219 --> 00:42:20.780
Like it's it's a thing about being an elite,

00:42:20.780 --> 00:42:22.519
you know, passer of the ball that you don't want

00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.079
to turn your back to the defense. You want to

00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:26.780
keep a good picture. You want to. And. it sucks

00:42:26.780 --> 00:42:28.500
because it's like, dude, just look at the success

00:42:28.500 --> 00:42:31.079
you have when you do it. But for whatever reason,

00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.619
they don't. And so that may be one thing. Players

00:42:33.619 --> 00:42:37.320
get to choose two. And then for two, I don't

00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.340
understand why they're not using bunch sets.

00:42:39.460 --> 00:42:42.000
You have a bunch of players who cannot win one

00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.280
on one off the line, who have terrible releases.

00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:49.320
Why aren't you confusing the DBS? Why aren't

00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:52.519
you using more creative formations to make the

00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.760
defensive backfield communicate? Because then

00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:56.900
you might get a busted coverage or something,

00:42:56.980 --> 00:42:59.260
right? They did this last year, those dirty quad

00:42:59.260 --> 00:43:02.380
bunch sets, man. It's like they don't have Matt

00:43:02.380 --> 00:43:03.980
Collins, so now they can't do that anymore? I

00:43:03.980 --> 00:43:06.440
don't understand. Hey, Matt Collins is balling

00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.320
out for New England. No, I love him. That's what

00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:09.960
I'm saying is like you don't have Matt Collins

00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:12.260
and now you can't do these things? What's your

00:43:12.260 --> 00:43:15.500
problem? Um, yeah. So I agree completely. That's

00:43:15.500 --> 00:43:18.320
the best way to get him free in space. I just

00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:19.800
don't think they're going to do it. Like that's

00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:23.059
why, you know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Bill's mafia.

00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:27.699
I am, I, I, until they prove me wrong, I'm so

00:43:27.699 --> 00:43:30.599
out on this team. Like, and I'd love to be wrong.

00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.239
I love, I love for them to finally get a championship

00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:35.519
this year. And maybe like, wow, I doubted them

00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:37.900
the whole way, but I'm really like, I've never

00:43:37.900 --> 00:43:40.969
been more. In the like, all right, let's wash

00:43:40.969 --> 00:43:43.730
our hands of this fire everybody and start over

00:43:43.730 --> 00:43:48.329
camp. I, oh man. That's a whole other, that's

00:43:48.329 --> 00:43:49.650
a whole other topic. We don't have to get into

00:43:49.650 --> 00:43:51.110
that one right now. That's a, that's a whole

00:43:51.110 --> 00:43:54.210
other topic that I do think. I do think even

00:43:54.210 --> 00:43:57.610
people in the let's not fire McDermott camp are

00:43:57.610 --> 00:43:59.909
starting to come more and more into. Cause I

00:43:59.909 --> 00:44:02.070
mean, let's be realistic. What does it feel like

00:44:02.070 --> 00:44:04.969
this? What does it feel like the ceiling of this

00:44:04.969 --> 00:44:07.320
team is this year? they get into the playoff

00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.739
sure, but they regress and they're out in the

00:44:09.739 --> 00:44:12.280
wild card round. You know what I mean? Like,

00:44:12.340 --> 00:44:15.380
I do think, yeah, I do think that as a conversation

00:44:15.380 --> 00:44:19.219
for another time, without a doubt. Okay, let's

00:44:19.219 --> 00:44:22.380
go. Yeah, let's just, you want to just want to

00:44:22.380 --> 00:44:24.000
talk about defense because you're so out on this

00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:28.059
offense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, please no bring

00:44:28.059 --> 00:44:29.980
up the more of the things that you know You're

00:44:29.980 --> 00:44:32.619
putting on our socials that you think could evolve

00:44:32.619 --> 00:44:34.320
the offense because I think that's important.

00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:41.039
I'm scared to Make an angry buzzer noise from

00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:42.460
like a game show like that's not gonna work.

00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:45.960
No, they're never gonna do it So I think I'm

00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:48.719
gonna I'm okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna break. I'm

00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:54.769
gonna gently Present this idea to you We have

00:44:54.769 --> 00:44:57.190
been advocating for more tempo to the offense.

00:44:57.650 --> 00:45:00.010
And in the Miami game, the Buffalo Bills offense

00:45:00.010 --> 00:45:03.550
and the passing game in particular, looked its

00:45:03.550 --> 00:45:05.670
most in rhythm when they were in that four minute

00:45:05.670 --> 00:45:10.849
offense at the end of the first half. We have

00:45:10.849 --> 00:45:12.630
vented our frustrations this team doesn't play

00:45:12.630 --> 00:45:15.389
with more tempo, but a team like Tampa Bay that

00:45:15.389 --> 00:45:18.469
loves to sub in and rotate their defensive line,

00:45:18.530 --> 00:45:20.389
particularly at the edge position where they're

00:45:20.389 --> 00:45:22.610
still trying to find some answers there and they're

00:45:22.610 --> 00:45:27.199
a little banged up. Um, is very, is a very efficient

00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.599
past coverage unit. They've got some legit studs

00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:33.800
out there, but they have been susceptible to

00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:37.019
the quick game. Do we see the Buffalo, but then

00:45:37.019 --> 00:45:39.199
the quick game and playing with tempo aren't

00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:41.820
necessarily married to each other, but do we

00:45:41.820 --> 00:45:44.219
see more schemed up quick game and do we see

00:45:44.219 --> 00:45:46.599
the bills play with a little bit more tempo here,

00:45:46.699 --> 00:45:49.460
JJ, to keep the Buccaneers off kilter because

00:45:49.460 --> 00:45:52.139
this has been their Achilles heel versus teams

00:45:52.139 --> 00:45:54.610
that they have played. That would require the

00:45:54.610 --> 00:45:57.349
Bills coaching staff to actually use strategies

00:45:57.349 --> 00:45:59.889
that take advantage of another team's weaknesses.

00:46:01.269 --> 00:46:04.889
Stop asking you questions. No, I think that you're

00:46:04.889 --> 00:46:07.389
absolutely right. That is a way to victory for

00:46:07.389 --> 00:46:10.090
this team. I think that it's exactly the kind

00:46:10.090 --> 00:46:13.130
of thing that we would hope they would use. And

00:46:13.130 --> 00:46:15.409
we've both seen Josh Allen look more comfortable

00:46:15.409 --> 00:46:17.510
with tempo, with pace, with the ability to kind

00:46:17.510 --> 00:46:21.340
of get in a groove. I mean, yes, like I definitely

00:46:21.340 --> 00:46:23.260
hope for that. I hope that Joe Brady is seeing

00:46:23.260 --> 00:46:25.159
the same thing we're seeing, which is that this

00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:27.519
Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense likes to have a

00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.219
lot of time before a snap. They like to get their

00:46:30.219 --> 00:46:31.840
guys kind of lined up where they need to get

00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.119
them lined up specifically because they like

00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.699
to do some exotic twists and stunts. And that's

00:46:37.699 --> 00:46:41.389
a communication. aspect that's harder to do when

00:46:41.389 --> 00:46:45.150
the Buffalo Bills are rolling. Usually that's

00:46:45.150 --> 00:46:47.829
the first thing to go in a defensive scheme as

00:46:47.829 --> 00:46:49.969
an offense is kind of piling down the field on

00:46:49.969 --> 00:46:51.949
you. You just start playing straight up because

00:46:51.949 --> 00:46:54.829
you don't have time to figure out who's looping

00:46:54.829 --> 00:46:58.750
or who's crashing. I very much hope that they

00:46:58.750 --> 00:47:03.460
pull that together as a tactic. And I think that

00:47:03.460 --> 00:47:05.579
it's, you know, I think there's a lot of people

00:47:05.579 --> 00:47:07.500
in the fan base that would say like, oh, we think,

00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.619
you know, maybe Sean McDermott wanting to cover

00:47:10.619 --> 00:47:13.239
up his defense a little bit is trying to get

00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:15.500
Joe Brady to play a slower form of offense, trying

00:47:15.500 --> 00:47:19.460
to get him to plod and play the long 12, 15 play

00:47:19.460 --> 00:47:21.219
drive short in the game, that sort of thing.

00:47:21.500 --> 00:47:23.099
I don't know how much of that is true. Like,

00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:25.139
I don't know if he's if he's meddling to that

00:47:25.139 --> 00:47:27.239
level. I just think it's been a choice and selection

00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:30.130
thing. I think Joe Brady is mindful of. being

00:47:30.130 --> 00:47:32.170
a good partner to his defense and complimentary

00:47:32.170 --> 00:47:34.110
football is definitely preached to the whole

00:47:34.110 --> 00:47:37.769
coaching staff. And we know that if they if they

00:47:37.769 --> 00:47:40.670
throw it three times in quick succession and

00:47:40.670 --> 00:47:42.909
get out after nine seconds come off the play

00:47:42.909 --> 00:47:45.389
clock, that puts your defense in a pickle. Right.

00:47:45.989 --> 00:47:49.769
Yeah, without a doubt. I I don't think McDermott

00:47:49.769 --> 00:47:51.630
is meddling to that point. I don't think so.

00:47:51.949 --> 00:47:54.750
I think. defenses are dictating some of that

00:47:54.750 --> 00:47:57.469
to, as we talked about, um, with the way they're

00:47:57.469 --> 00:47:59.670
guarding this, this wide receiver unit. I do

00:47:59.670 --> 00:48:02.309
think offenses are, or defenses are dictating

00:48:02.309 --> 00:48:04.809
some of that to the bills more, more than anything

00:48:04.809 --> 00:48:08.530
else. And I mean, you know, Josh has shown a

00:48:08.530 --> 00:48:10.730
propensity over the past, I would say season

00:48:10.730 --> 00:48:13.969
and a half to take what defenses are giving to

00:48:13.969 --> 00:48:16.210
him, which is usually just the check down stuff.

00:48:16.429 --> 00:48:19.909
down below, but Josh is also really cognizant

00:48:19.909 --> 00:48:22.650
of game script, too. And he has been playing

00:48:22.650 --> 00:48:26.349
from behind more, I think, than he has in the

00:48:26.349 --> 00:48:28.750
past couple of seasons with the Buffalo Bills.

00:48:28.989 --> 00:48:32.030
And as a result of that, depending on where they

00:48:32.030 --> 00:48:34.510
are at in the game script, against a lot of these

00:48:34.510 --> 00:48:37.349
teams, I saw a ton in the Miami game. It looks

00:48:37.349 --> 00:48:39.590
like he's pressing, and I agree at times he is

00:48:39.590 --> 00:48:42.130
pressing, but I think there are times where I

00:48:42.130 --> 00:48:45.440
watch the film and I see, yeah. There's a check

00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:48.760
down available in the flat. But also there is

00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.579
a slot corner. That's got zone eyes on that receiver

00:48:51.579 --> 00:48:55.039
That's gonna be a three yard gain on second down.

00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:57.300
They're gonna be tackled immediately Which we

00:48:57.300 --> 00:48:59.360
saw a bunch in that Miami game, right and it's

00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.360
gonna be third and seven I do think in earlier

00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:05.119
downs He is trying to be more aggressive so that

00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.000
they can avoid the third and seven third and

00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:09.300
eight that he knows They don't have a lot of

00:49:09.300 --> 00:49:12.420
answers for with this personnel on this playbook,

00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:16.070
right? So Going back to the original point about

00:49:16.070 --> 00:49:19.989
quick game with a team like Tampa Bay, not just

00:49:19.989 --> 00:49:23.409
allowing them not to set, but not getting so

00:49:23.409 --> 00:49:25.869
bogged down and calling out protections because

00:49:25.869 --> 00:49:28.070
that's failed a lot too, particularly with Connor

00:49:28.070 --> 00:49:29.829
McGovern. I don't know what it is this year,

00:49:30.210 --> 00:49:32.550
but McGovern's checks at the line on protections

00:49:32.550 --> 00:49:35.730
have not hit right. And Josh, for whatever reason,

00:49:35.809 --> 00:49:39.010
is not overriding him from under center. I'm

00:49:39.010 --> 00:49:41.710
not saying that that stuff doesn't happen when

00:49:41.710 --> 00:49:44.170
you play with tempo. But I'm saying you can dictate

00:49:44.170 --> 00:49:47.190
that a lot more and play in better rhythm and

00:49:47.190 --> 00:49:50.250
dictate those situations better to the defense.

00:49:50.710 --> 00:49:52.789
And that would take some pressure off of this

00:49:52.789 --> 00:49:56.750
offensive line to constantly be right for 39

00:49:56.750 --> 00:49:58.929
seconds before we snap the ball on where the

00:49:58.929 --> 00:50:03.090
pressure is coming from. Yeah, and I'm wondering

00:50:03.090 --> 00:50:05.449
about that too. It's such a weird thing. There's

00:50:05.449 --> 00:50:07.429
a couple of those weird nuances for this team

00:50:07.429 --> 00:50:09.769
that we can't necessarily figure out. Why did

00:50:09.769 --> 00:50:11.690
Terrell Bernard forget how to play football?

00:50:12.190 --> 00:50:15.190
How is Connor McGovern regressed so much? What

00:50:15.190 --> 00:50:18.489
about his play has key defenses to know what

00:50:18.489 --> 00:50:20.730
his checks and calls are? That's what it looks

00:50:20.730 --> 00:50:22.909
like. It looks like someone's reading his pitches.

00:50:24.170 --> 00:50:26.769
And it's made them wrong a number of times in

00:50:26.769 --> 00:50:29.809
key moments, and the Bills offense has paid the

00:50:29.809 --> 00:50:32.699
price. Yeah, it's one of those. It's yet another

00:50:32.699 --> 00:50:36.019
area. Like this is the point in time. This is

00:50:36.019 --> 00:50:38.420
me being hopeful and positive. This is the point

00:50:38.420 --> 00:50:41.179
in time for this Bill's team to prove what they

00:50:41.179 --> 00:50:43.579
always say, which is every, every week is a chance

00:50:43.579 --> 00:50:45.739
to get better growth mentality, growth mindset,

00:50:46.659 --> 00:50:48.139
like improve on the things that we need to improve

00:50:48.139 --> 00:50:51.739
on as a team, stay focused, you know, go one

00:50:51.739 --> 00:50:53.300
to know every week, all the things, all the little,

00:50:53.300 --> 00:50:56.440
you know, catchphrases they use, get out there

00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:57.960
and show us because I think that this is a good

00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:00.690
opportunity to do so. Yeah, no without a doubt.

00:51:01.130 --> 00:51:03.369
All right. Do you want to mercifully switch to

00:51:03.369 --> 00:51:05.909
the defensive? Yes, please. Okay, great All right.

00:51:05.909 --> 00:51:09.269
So a couple of keys for me JJ. Let anyone other

00:51:09.269 --> 00:51:12.630
than Ibuka beat you like bracket shit out of

00:51:12.630 --> 00:51:16.030
that guy Even I saw Godwin's practicing. I don't

00:51:16.030 --> 00:51:17.590
know that he's gonna be ready to go for this

00:51:17.590 --> 00:51:20.449
game But even if he is ready to go he has been

00:51:20.449 --> 00:51:23.269
he has been on injured reserve for weeks at this

00:51:23.269 --> 00:51:27.179
point Anybody but Ibuka let anybody but him beat

00:51:27.179 --> 00:51:30.159
you. Because he right now, depending on the health

00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:32.679
of Godwin, he's the only guy that can really

00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:35.000
slash you with explosive plays. So bracket the

00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:39.119
hell out of him. Let Cade Otten beat you. If

00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:42.000
Sterling Shepard beats you, God bless that guy,

00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:44.860
right? Absolutely. You've done it. Sterling,

00:51:45.099 --> 00:51:48.619
thank you. Right. Bracket their number one pass

00:51:48.619 --> 00:51:53.179
catcher and then... Like heat up Baker like Baker's

00:51:53.179 --> 00:51:55.960
completion percentage drops a full 15 points

00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:59.639
down to 56 % When he is facing pressure of five

00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.039
or more pass rushers So you've got to absolutely

00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:05.260
be aggressive and light him up if you do sit

00:52:05.260 --> 00:52:09.460
back in zone And this becomes even more problematic

00:52:09.460 --> 00:52:11.579
if bucky earrings gonna play but if you sit back

00:52:11.579 --> 00:52:13.380
is only he's gonna dice you up the whole game

00:52:13.380 --> 00:52:16.139
Yep. Yeah, exactly. That's that's the thing that

00:52:16.139 --> 00:52:18.440
again. It's a chance for your defense to evolve

00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:21.119
it's a chance for you to try to add some new

00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:24.340
wrinkles, send, Bernard is lost in coverage,

00:52:24.739 --> 00:52:26.760
send him on blitzes. Like he's quick enough to

00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:30.679
get there, right? Like drop, heck, drop Rousseau

00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:35.039
into the middle zone. He's a condor, right? Like

00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.380
he can throw an arm up into a passing lane if

00:52:37.380 --> 00:52:40.039
you need a minute and do some simulated pressures

00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:44.679
and send, you know, send Bernard right down the

00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:47.239
throat. Like that's... Do some different things.

00:52:47.340 --> 00:52:49.019
Try to get that guy some confidence because I

00:52:49.019 --> 00:52:51.099
think that's the biggest problem is he's been

00:52:51.099 --> 00:52:53.460
playing with a mixed bag next to him. He's been

00:52:53.460 --> 00:52:56.760
injured. He's been in and out. He is not counting

00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:59.079
too much on his defensive secondary. Every time

00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:00.880
he's out there, it looks like he's second guessing.

00:53:01.260 --> 00:53:03.420
who's got the route behind him and how close

00:53:03.420 --> 00:53:05.239
they're going to be. And that's part of the reason

00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:08.679
he's not squishing back onto those crossing routes

00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:10.639
over the middle and has been seeming lost in

00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:13.340
coverage. Just send them, you know, get Terrell

00:53:13.340 --> 00:53:15.420
Bernard in there on some things. I hope Teron

00:53:15.420 --> 00:53:18.340
Johnson plays because I think that he does matter

00:53:18.340 --> 00:53:21.320
for this defense. Although I've liked seeing

00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:25.329
Cam Lewis. He's been good. He's been good. We

00:53:25.329 --> 00:53:28.750
don't lose a ton in run fits and he's been better

00:53:28.750 --> 00:53:33.449
in coverage. I still hope for Teron Johnson though.

00:53:33.570 --> 00:53:35.829
I mean, like he was one of the best slot corners

00:53:35.829 --> 00:53:38.440
in the league last season. Yeah, he absolutely

00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:41.460
was man. But us being a couple of guys of advanced

00:53:41.460 --> 00:53:44.900
age 30 comes free. Oh, yeah, 30 comes free fast.

00:53:45.380 --> 00:53:49.099
Like bad goes. Yeah. And he's another guy that

00:53:49.099 --> 00:53:52.179
because of his style of play and how aggressively

00:53:52.179 --> 00:53:54.659
he hits his run fits over the course of his career.

00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:57.800
He's also dealt with a lot of injury issues.

00:53:58.139 --> 00:54:01.300
Some some publicly known I'm sure many that aren't.

00:54:01.300 --> 00:54:05.210
He does seem like a guy who If he is on the back

00:54:05.210 --> 00:54:07.429
end of his career, that decline is going to come

00:54:07.429 --> 00:54:11.030
quick. So I am actually okay if Cam Lewis gets

00:54:11.030 --> 00:54:15.889
a majority of the snaps in this game. Sure. Who

00:54:15.889 --> 00:54:17.429
would you like to see on the defensive line take

00:54:17.429 --> 00:54:21.329
a step in this one? I mean, TJ Sanders looks

00:54:21.329 --> 00:54:22.769
like he's going to play. So I don't know if it's

00:54:22.769 --> 00:54:25.989
take a step, but let's see what you can do rolled

00:54:25.989 --> 00:54:29.409
out in a high leverage situation for this defensive

00:54:29.409 --> 00:54:31.590
line that is really hurting for depth at this

00:54:31.590 --> 00:54:35.059
point. We all know that Deion Walker has been

00:54:35.059 --> 00:54:37.559
one of the success stories of this rookie class

00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:42.280
that Brandon Bean has brought in. I want to see

00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:44.119
TJ Sanders live up to his draft stock. I mean,

00:54:44.179 --> 00:54:46.380
we traded up for this guy. I think the skill

00:54:46.380 --> 00:54:50.219
sets there, health has not allowed him to be

00:54:50.219 --> 00:54:52.460
functional for the squad. I want to see him come

00:54:52.460 --> 00:54:55.110
in and make an immediate impact against What

00:54:55.110 --> 00:54:57.730
is a what is a pretty stout offensive line particularly

00:54:57.730 --> 00:55:00.050
on the interior for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?

00:55:00.190 --> 00:55:02.289
I don't see what he's got from that penetrating

00:55:02.289 --> 00:55:05.349
style of pass rush Yeah, no, this offensive line

00:55:05.349 --> 00:55:08.309
is pretty solid. They're tackles worse and go

00:55:08.309 --> 00:55:10.710
to key. You're very good interior defensive,

00:55:10.869 --> 00:55:12.969
but to your point I think their interior offensive

00:55:12.969 --> 00:55:15.889
line for the Bucs is where their vulnerability

00:55:15.889 --> 00:55:17.869
is That's where I think that you can make some

00:55:17.869 --> 00:55:19.869
hay. It's gonna be much harder for the pass rushers

00:55:19.869 --> 00:55:22.349
on the outside Yeah, I do. I definitely think

00:55:22.349 --> 00:55:25.630
so, too. If Bucky Irving plays in this game,

00:55:25.909 --> 00:55:29.969
I become a lot more worried about this offensive

00:55:29.969 --> 00:55:32.250
scheme. You know, it's interesting because the

00:55:32.250 --> 00:55:35.409
Buccaneers' OC has gotten a lot of crap from

00:55:35.409 --> 00:55:37.699
Tampa Bay media that... He's not doing a lot

00:55:37.699 --> 00:55:40.199
of play action. He's not doing a lot of pre snap

00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:42.739
motion stuff. This is all stuff that the Buffalo

00:55:42.739 --> 00:55:44.940
Bills struggle with. But when you look at their

00:55:44.940 --> 00:55:47.260
splits on those things, when Bucky Ervin, because

00:55:47.260 --> 00:55:50.280
of how dynamic he is, is on the field, they're

00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.659
doing a lot more of those things because he is,

00:55:52.659 --> 00:55:54.960
he's a more lateral threat than like, I think

00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:58.179
it's Rashard White is their backup, right? He's,

00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:01.059
and he's got way more sideline to sideline versatility

00:56:01.059 --> 00:56:03.320
and that jet sweep game and all that kind of

00:56:03.320 --> 00:56:06.670
stuff than Sean Tucker has, right? I think third

00:56:06.670 --> 00:56:10.829
stringer out of Syracuse. So I think if Irving

00:56:10.829 --> 00:56:13.809
is in, I think misdirection and play action is

00:56:13.809 --> 00:56:16.550
probably back on the menu. We saw them try to

00:56:16.550 --> 00:56:18.769
roll that out with some pretty decent levels

00:56:18.769 --> 00:56:21.369
of success against New England last week. And

00:56:21.369 --> 00:56:23.489
that freed up some things in their run game and

00:56:23.489 --> 00:56:27.030
passing game for them. I think if Irving is back,

00:56:27.030 --> 00:56:28.829
they're going to spam the crap out of that stuff.

00:56:28.829 --> 00:56:30.449
And then that becomes a problem for this Bills

00:56:30.449 --> 00:56:32.690
defense that still does not handle those things

00:56:32.690 --> 00:56:38.070
well. Just, I mean, worthwhile to look at the

00:56:38.070 --> 00:56:41.190
injury report right now. Bucky Irving was a limited

00:56:41.190 --> 00:56:46.489
participant both days this week so far. I hope

00:56:46.489 --> 00:56:49.590
he doesn't play. Please wait a week. I know.

00:56:49.929 --> 00:56:51.630
But if he does, it's going to be interesting.

00:56:52.750 --> 00:56:55.130
Hassan Reddick didn't practice today, correct?

00:56:55.329 --> 00:56:57.670
Right. Yeah, Hassan Reddick didn't practice.

00:56:57.909 --> 00:56:59.690
Anthony Nelson -Leinbacher did not practice,

00:56:59.710 --> 00:57:02.710
but it's just an illness. Ben Bredesen, their

00:57:02.710 --> 00:57:05.110
guard, starting guard, did not practice hamstring.

00:57:06.090 --> 00:57:08.090
Yeah. Vita Veja is limited too, I think, but

00:57:08.090 --> 00:57:10.230
he's going to play. Vita Veja is limited. Chris

00:57:10.230 --> 00:57:13.030
Godwin's limited. Antoine Winfield, Jr., limited.

00:57:13.989 --> 00:57:19.070
Oh, man. That dude, that's rough. Yeah. That's

00:57:19.070 --> 00:57:22.489
almost as bad as our list. Yeah. But I think

00:57:22.489 --> 00:57:25.110
for the most part, we had mostly full participants.

00:57:25.409 --> 00:57:28.469
Yep. Cam Lewis, limited. Khalil Shakir, limited.

00:57:28.929 --> 00:57:31.150
Which, hey. This might be the Ken Coleman slot

00:57:31.150 --> 00:57:34.690
game if Shakir can't go. Please like I honestly

00:57:34.690 --> 00:57:37.590
like this is the thing for me. I want to see

00:57:37.590 --> 00:57:40.610
him there so bad because that's I I'm like so

00:57:40.610 --> 00:57:44.010
out on him as an X receiver. That like I just

00:57:44.010 --> 00:57:45.650
need to see what he looks like with an easier

00:57:45.650 --> 00:57:48.710
release like he could be amazing and then all

00:57:48.710 --> 00:57:51.010
of a sudden like OK, yeah we drafted him be the

00:57:51.010 --> 00:57:53.710
X but what we found was a solid above average

00:57:53.710 --> 00:57:56.409
slot receiver power slot. That's fine. Let's

00:57:56.409 --> 00:57:59.360
keep looking for an X. What is stopping us in

00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:02.219
11 personnel from putting if Palmer goes in this

00:58:02.219 --> 00:58:04.780
game, which it looks like he's going to go our

00:58:04.780 --> 00:58:08.480
separation God and Savior Josh Palmer What is

00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:10.780
stopping us from putting Josh Palmer in the X

00:58:10.780 --> 00:58:14.880
clearly Shakir should he play in the Z? Dalton

00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.019
are not Dalton Kincaid because he's not playing

00:58:17.019 --> 00:58:20.380
King Gabe Gabe Davis in the Dalton Kincaid tight

00:58:20.380 --> 00:58:24.570
end role. No, and then can Coleman slot What

00:58:24.570 --> 00:58:27.170
what's wrong with that? Why can't we do why can't

00:58:27.170 --> 00:58:29.349
we have nice things? Why can't we do that? Why

00:58:29.349 --> 00:58:31.050
can't we try something else? Because what we've

00:58:31.050 --> 00:58:34.710
been trying doesn't work. Yeah Fair. Yeah, and

00:58:34.710 --> 00:58:37.789
then you've got I mean Palmer's the field stretcher

00:58:37.789 --> 00:58:40.510
You know Gabe Davis can stretch the seam from

00:58:40.510 --> 00:58:43.110
that tight end position all of a sudden the middle

00:58:43.110 --> 00:58:46.010
of the field looks really open for an intermediate

00:58:46.010 --> 00:58:48.989
end breaker from Kahlil Shakir or something closer

00:58:48.989 --> 00:58:51.170
to the line of scrimmage of Kian Coleman and

00:58:51.170 --> 00:58:53.920
dude listen I know you hate them, but When he

00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:57.559
gets the ball in his hands, he makes stuff happen.

00:58:57.940 --> 00:59:01.239
The problem is him getting the ball in his hands.

00:59:01.260 --> 00:59:04.539
I will not debate you on that. The problem is

00:59:04.539 --> 00:59:06.519
the whole operation of being a receiver in the

00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:11.159
NFL. Everything that happens before that, right?

00:59:11.940 --> 00:59:13.699
But if you get the ball in his hands, man, he

00:59:13.699 --> 00:59:16.699
still makes stuff happen. I like him as a runner

00:59:16.699 --> 00:59:18.500
with the ball in his hands. It just never gets

00:59:18.500 --> 00:59:22.360
there. I love how we were like let's flip to

00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:24.280
the defense to close this thing out and then

00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:25.840
immediately they're back on the often Because

00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:28.079
I think that we both know one thing hurts. Yeah

00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.280
one thing hurts Well, and we both know the same

00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:33.019
the same thing about this team is that without

00:59:33.019 --> 00:59:35.280
a working offense? The defense will never work

00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:38.719
right like they're not built to close or change

00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:42.420
games. They are built to maintain Correct. Look

00:59:42.420 --> 00:59:44.980
the running engine that is the offense. Yes,

00:59:44.980 --> 00:59:47.639
the offense drives game script for this team

00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:50.400
It has for the past few seasons. It has since

00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:55.400
Joe Brady honestly took over. Yeah, man. We're

00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:57.639
just going to work. I have another Coleman thought,

00:59:57.639 --> 00:59:59.519
but I'm going to save it for another pod because

00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:01.300
I feel like this is going to be a debate that

01:00:01.300 --> 01:00:03.460
never ends. And I'm also I'm all my voice is

01:00:03.460 --> 01:00:05.619
toast. Let's close this thing out. Let's do this

01:00:05.619 --> 01:00:07.739
thing. Predictions sure to go wrong, my friend.

01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:10.619
All right. So the line on this game is moved,

01:00:10.739 --> 01:00:13.980
but it favors Buffalo by five and a half. Vegas

01:00:13.980 --> 01:00:17.250
shut up. Like this five and a half spread. Bill's

01:00:17.250 --> 01:00:19.030
favored by five and a half points. I hate you,

01:00:19.030 --> 01:00:21.570
Vegas. Over and around this game, forty seven

01:00:21.570 --> 01:00:26.289
and a half. J .J. Final score prediction. Oh.

01:00:31.869 --> 01:00:36.190
I'm going to say Bucks, twenty seven. Bills,

01:00:36.230 --> 01:00:39.630
twenty one. Oh, I think they're not. You're not

01:00:39.630 --> 01:00:41.789
looking bills. There's only the second time in

01:00:41.789 --> 01:00:43.309
the history of our podcast and the other ever

01:00:43.309 --> 01:00:45.090
picked against the bills. I know the only other

01:00:45.090 --> 01:00:47.030
time you did that was against the Chiefs. Yep.

01:00:47.530 --> 01:00:50.670
Okay. Um, what, what makes you think that the

01:00:50.670 --> 01:00:52.989
bills are going to drop this one? Oh, because

01:00:52.989 --> 01:00:55.469
they're just, they just seem so sloppy. There's

01:00:55.469 --> 01:00:57.389
like, I think for me, it's the fact that the

01:00:57.389 --> 01:00:59.489
bucks have a very good, I know that they have

01:00:59.489 --> 01:01:01.329
some, some injured players. They're trying to

01:01:01.329 --> 01:01:03.570
figure out their pass rush, but overall they

01:01:03.570 --> 01:01:07.650
have a solid well coached defense. And if they

01:01:07.650 --> 01:01:10.030
get an extra possession, they have enough of

01:01:10.030 --> 01:01:12.610
an offense to keep this out of the hands of the,

01:01:12.610 --> 01:01:18.179
of the bills. Okay. I am also picking the Bucks.

01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:21.159
I picked the Bucks preseason to win this game.

01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.059
And this was always one that kind of troubled

01:01:25.059 --> 01:01:28.440
me on the schedule, kind of where it sat from

01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:30.559
the stretch of games that we are on right now.

01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:33.559
We've got Pittsburgh coming up. We've got the

01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:36.099
Texans coming up on a short week. And then we've

01:01:36.099 --> 01:01:39.159
got what is a looming important matchup against

01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:41.039
the New England Patriots. So where this game

01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:44.159
was situated, We've just seen we have seen it

01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:47.199
this time of year against NFC opponents the Buffalo

01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:50.679
Bills drop games exactly like this Yep, so just

01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:52.420
based on recent history. I was like, yeah the

01:01:52.420 --> 01:01:55.739
Bucks maybe squeak it out So I've got bucks 28

01:01:55.739 --> 01:01:58.619
bills 27 I think it's gonna be a close one for

01:01:58.619 --> 01:02:00.780
sure But I think the Bucks are gonna Bucks are

01:02:00.780 --> 01:02:02.900
gonna take it and I'm also taking are we both

01:02:02.900 --> 01:02:05.039
taking the over on points on this? We are yeah,

01:02:05.059 --> 01:02:08.630
we are. Okay I yeah, I think both of these offenses

01:02:08.630 --> 01:02:10.809
can find a way to score on these opposing defenses.

01:02:10.809 --> 01:02:13.469
I really do. All right, JJ, do you have a prop

01:02:13.469 --> 01:02:20.789
bet? I have just one. Josh Allen, plus or minus

01:02:20.789 --> 01:02:26.670
or over under 250 yards passing. I would normally

01:02:26.670 --> 01:02:30.619
say that's easy money, but. It's been a it's

01:02:30.619 --> 01:02:33.460
been a struggle and it's been a real struggle

01:02:33.460 --> 01:02:37.199
with his a dot his average area yards per completion

01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:41.440
as well. I mean, I'm going to say and I'm going

01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:43.780
to say under I know he went for 300 against Miami,

01:02:43.820 --> 01:02:46.320
but they were playing from double digit score

01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.900
behind most of that game. I'm going to say under

01:02:49.900 --> 01:02:52.420
I'm also going to say under. Yep. Yeah, I just

01:02:52.420 --> 01:02:56.300
he seems to not whether it's scheme. Receivers

01:02:56.300 --> 01:02:57.980
whatever it is don't think he's gonna be out

01:02:57.980 --> 01:03:00.340
this game. I think it's gonna be a struggle Do

01:03:00.340 --> 01:03:03.500
you think he is kind of like protesting this

01:03:03.500 --> 01:03:07.300
offense in his own way on the field? Quiet quitting

01:03:07.300 --> 01:03:09.739
right. He's like, oh you want to you want to

01:03:09.739 --> 01:03:12.159
turn me into a five -step trap QB. Okay here

01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:15.900
Chuck this thing downfield. I don't know. It's

01:03:15.900 --> 01:03:17.719
something though. There's something fishy right

01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.559
like he just doesn't seem interested in playing

01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:22.820
football and if it's I don't know if the scheme

01:03:22.820 --> 01:03:25.800
if it's like He's Hollywood Josh now, which is

01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:28.739
what I've said a couple of times Are we are we

01:03:28.739 --> 01:03:31.500
at that stage of our Josh Allen doubt where it's

01:03:31.500 --> 01:03:33.780
he's doing too many commercials Josh And that's

01:03:33.780 --> 01:03:35.659
why he's not playing well. It's not about the

01:03:35.659 --> 01:03:37.599
commercials actually I actually take it from

01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.679
a standpoint of his life fulfillment that he

01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:44.519
is like he got married he's like renowned he's

01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:47.780
beloved across all media and it's just a play

01:03:47.780 --> 01:03:50.400
like what else does he of course he wants a championship,

01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:54.320
but does he want a championship he's got $250

01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:58.960
million guaranteed. Like, is that important?

01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:00.880
I'm not saying he's the kind who gets paid and

01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.440
gives up, but he might be one of the kinds who's

01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:06.079
like, you know, he even said in an interview

01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:08.039
that Haley has taught him there's more to life

01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:11.530
than football, Dan. Listen, man. Him and him

01:04:11.530 --> 01:04:15.050
and Haley, as far as I'm concerned, are unimpeachable

01:04:15.050 --> 01:04:17.409
with their love of the Buffalo Bills. All right.

01:04:17.449 --> 01:04:19.989
And what they want for this town and this team.

01:04:20.190 --> 01:04:23.090
I will have no Haley or Josh slander in my presence.

01:04:23.869 --> 01:04:28.409
But I will say this is this is how Josh was playing

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before Dorsey got fired. And Josh, while he did

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not do so publicly on the field, you could tell

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there were moments of real frustration that he

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was having with this offense. It looks a lot

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like it did before Dorsey got canned. Now, I

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think Josh and Brady have a different relationship

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than Dorsey and Josh did. And I think whatever

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they're gonna hash out, they're gonna do it behind

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closed doors. And I think Brady is very well

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known for taking player feedback. Like, he pulls

01:05:01.210 --> 01:05:03.710
in... the offensive line, he pulls in each of

01:05:03.710 --> 01:05:06.389
the positional groups to help build the game

01:05:06.389 --> 01:05:08.210
plan each week. What plays do you think are going

01:05:08.210 --> 01:05:11.030
to work? What plays do you don't? So like these

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players have skin in the game when it comes to

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what's being put out there on the field. I think

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Josh's frustrations, though, are kind of echoing

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where it was where it was at with Dorsey. That's

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what I'm picking up on. I don't think it's life

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fulfillment necessarily. OK, well, there's also

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the there's also Sean McDermott's. effusive praise

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and support of Joe Brady as the offensive coordinator,

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which is the same thing he did two weeks before

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he fired. Yeah, Ken Dorsey. Yeah, kiss of death,

01:05:40.300 --> 01:05:42.360
right? Yeah, he's our guy. We absolutely got

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his back. Like, you know, we'll figure this out.

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We trust him. We trust his scheme. I've I've

01:05:47.900 --> 01:05:50.079
got the Steelers game circled, man, because I

01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:52.699
think I think I think if the Bills dropped this

01:05:52.699 --> 01:05:55.559
one and they dropped that Steelers game, I think

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you could I think you could see some weird stuff.

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Well, who would come like who would? Joe Brady

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was an obvious had been an offensive coordinator

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in the past. Aaron Cromer's called plays before,

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man. I don't like that. I mean, he wasn't bad

01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:12.699
at it. He wasn't terrible at it. I'm not. And

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to be clear, I'm not advocating for it. I am

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saying there is someone with more experience

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than Brady calling an NFL offense that has the

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ability to pick up that clipboard and call some

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plays. Fair. OK, fine. Yep. And he has built.

01:06:26.069 --> 01:06:27.789
Kroemer's built this run scheme. He's helped

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build this run scheme, right? That's true. And

01:06:30.010 --> 01:06:32.630
he studied, he was with McVay who knows how to

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do a passing freaking game. Well, this feels

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like, this feels like the, all the people who

01:06:39.650 --> 01:06:41.570
are like, Jim Kelly should come back and be the

01:06:41.570 --> 01:06:43.409
quarterbacks coach, you know, feel like that

01:06:43.409 --> 01:06:45.349
kind of statement. But when you say Aaron Kroemer

01:06:45.349 --> 01:06:47.429
just run, you know, can call plays, I just think

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of like Aaron Kroemer running the run game and

01:06:49.889 --> 01:06:51.869
just turning the entire play calling over to

01:06:51.869 --> 01:06:54.219
Josh Allen for anything that's not a run. What

01:06:54.219 --> 01:06:56.500
would be wrong with that? What would be wrong

01:06:56.500 --> 01:06:58.639
with that? What would be wrong with giving Josh

01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:00.960
a little bit of Aaron Rodgers freedom, right?

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That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying

01:07:03.260 --> 01:07:07.099
to play with tempo Do whatever you want and swing

01:07:07.099 --> 01:07:10.139
it Seriously Josh Pete. You know what Josh just

01:07:10.139 --> 01:07:12.619
becomes the OC. That's what happens. Yeah OC

01:07:12.619 --> 01:07:14.599
on the field Yep, absolutely. All right doesn't

01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:18.500
even need a headset just it just He just needs

01:07:18.500 --> 01:07:21.099
the longest wristband in history to wear. All

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right. I do have a prop for you It's not can

01:07:23.659 --> 01:07:26.500
Coleman related at all. Thank God TJ Sanders

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who you and I both really like Coming, you know

01:07:29.780 --> 01:07:33.619
the preseason I'm I I don't want to take a sack

01:07:33.619 --> 01:07:35.539
metric because I don't know that he's gonna get

01:07:35.539 --> 01:07:40.000
one in this game But I do want to go TFL TJ Sanders

01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:43.139
Tackles for loss over under one and a half in

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this game mm -hmm TfL 1 .5 Wow the Patriots are

01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:54.980
running it up not running up, but they just scored

01:07:54.980 --> 01:07:58.019
again, so it's 21 It's gonna be 21 to 7 so you're

01:07:58.019 --> 01:07:59.960
in a second. What is that on the third quarter?

01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:03.860
Yeah, yeah Hey, I mean the the Patriots listen.

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We'll talk about the Patriots. That's it. That's

01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:09.860
a team with flaws but No one on their schedule

01:08:09.860 --> 01:08:12.059
except maybe us in Baltimore will be able to

01:08:12.059 --> 01:08:14.719
exploit them So so I'm gonna I'm gonna hit the

01:08:14.719 --> 01:08:18.779
hopium and say over on TJ Sanders Tackles for

01:08:18.779 --> 01:08:21.800
loss nice. I'm gonna say over to okay I think

01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:25.600
especially if Dequan Jones is fully healthy and

01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:27.260
we've already seen listen. We've already seen

01:08:27.260 --> 01:08:30.020
Walker kind of step up I'm very interested to

01:08:30.020 --> 01:08:32.840
see Walker and Sanders play next to each other

01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:36.760
and Walker's big gap sucking body Open up some

01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:39.119
open up some quick lanes for TJ to get in there

01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:42.399
quickly So I'm gonna say over nice awesome. Yeah.

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All right, man. It was Listen man, I just hope

01:08:44.859 --> 01:08:47.199
you feel better. All right, no matter what happens.

01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:49.100
I hope you're I hope you're feeling better after

01:08:49.100 --> 01:08:51.739
this game and bills mafia I hope you are feeling

01:08:51.739 --> 01:08:54.520
better no matter the outcome this weekend as

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