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All right, welcome back to the Buffalo Bread

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Podcast. We are smiling because the Buffalo Bills,

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of course, defeated the very hated Kansas City

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Chiefs and to all of the Bills nervous mafia

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out there who is thinking, oh, they beat them

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every year in the regular season. Couldn't we

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sacrifice a regular season game on the altar

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of a postseason win? We'll talk about that. I

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don't think that that's the way this this win

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was absolutely necessary for the bills to keep

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pace with the Patriots and to knock the Chiefs

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down to five and four and their third in their

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division. And they are on the outside of the

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playoffs if the season ended today. For all those

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reasons, Dan, that's why we're smiling today.

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How are you doing, my friend? Smiling right along

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with you, JJ, for all the reasons that you just

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mentioned. We talked about it last pod. It feels

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good. Yes, it's another regular season win for

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the Bills. It doesn't mean anything is going

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to change in the postseason should these teams

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meet again necessarily. It did feel different

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this time, and this could be me trying to fool

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myself into believing that it will be different,

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but we'll break it down, man. The way the Bills

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won this game, the fashion in which that defense,

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which had been so maligned over the past few

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weeks, really came in and held their own against

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a revamped and vaunted uh, chief's offensive

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attack that was kind of on the upswing. I mean,

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there's a lot of good stuff to unpack there,

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but JJ, before we get into that, it is obviously

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Finn's week, the trade deadline passed this week.

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For my money, we've got two really positive things

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to talk about, two bit of good news things being

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the Chiefs win and then our impending game here

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against the Finns, which I think there's a lot

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of reasons to have confidence about. But before

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we get into both of those things, I think we

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should knock out maybe the only piece of bad

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news that there was for the Bills this week and

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that at the trade deadline, it was a big thud.

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Brandon Bean isn't able to make a move. I'm not

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going to say that he didn't make a move. like

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a lot of folks are because he was obviously trying.

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And if you listen to that press conference, he

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clearly thought he was going to make a deal.

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But JJ, ultimately, the Bills are forced to stand

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pat. No real additions coming to the squad other

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than some practice squad additions. What was

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your take, JJ, on the trade deadline? Were you

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super disappointed? Do you think the Bills still

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have a competitive roster? Where is your head

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at right now? Like every Bills fan, I wanted

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them to add some superstar stud talent and to

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be like, this is it. This is our year, right?

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Like, I don't think, and it's because we all

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have the scar tissue of postseason exits at the

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hands of the chiefs because our defense isn't

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up to the standard, because we don't have a stud

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number one outside receiver who's open when he's

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covered, whatever it might be. I think that we

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all sort of have that same... sense of dread

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about the bills not doing anything with the trade

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deadlines. Like, well, if they if they just did

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that, then maybe we would be we'd have some sort

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of guarantee. There are no guarantees in football

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that they could have gotten a guy and he could

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have gotten hurt in two weeks. Amari Cooper seemed

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to be a good addition before the trade deadline

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last year had his risk his risk in a cast for

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a month. Like, there's no guarantees at all is

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just making a deal isn't enough to promise success.

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And so from that standpoint, I did agree with

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Brandon Bean when he said he thought that this

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roster had what it took to get to and win a Super

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Bowl. I believe that too. I think that they have

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the pieces in place. Ask me two weeks ago before

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Cole Bishop and you know, Max Hairston lit the

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Chiefs on fire in coverage. I might disagree.

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I might say they absolutely need some other pieces

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on defense. But after seeing the Chiefs game

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and seeing how well they can pull it all together

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in a game against the opponent who came in super

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hot. Yeah, I do believe that this roster has

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what it takes. Again, disappointed like most

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everybody, but I do trust I think Brandon Bean

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is a good GM at managing his roster. I question

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his ability at hitting on top draft picks. And

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I think that there is a miss rate that is reasonable

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and he's probably a little bit over the average

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with his hits. So yeah, we talk all the time

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about how this roster is constructed. I'm disappointed,

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not surprised that they didn't do anything given

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the cap constraints, given the fact that they're

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not going to sell the farm. That's just not their

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way. But I don't know that it matters a great

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deal. Yeah, I think the cat piece played more

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into it than us mad and GM's fantasy footballers

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at home Really realized and being kind of alluded

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to this and his put in his press conference after

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the trade deadline had passed They were anticipating

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The they had the ability to make some more roster

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moves and restructure more guys to create more

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cap space. And you don't throw that nugget out

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there. If you're Brandon Bean and you don't have

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that in the, in the chamber, so to speak, ready

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to fire. If you're not planning on trying to

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upgrade the roster and whatever you want to say

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about being draft history. how he doles out these,

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some of these mid level contracts and all this

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other kind of stuff. He is always a guy who is

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looking to tinker and improve the roster from

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start to finish beginning of the league year

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to the end of the league year. Um, so yeah, he

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was absolutely and I'm sure in a lot of players.

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Um, I, I'm disappointed too, to some extent,

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but I'm also with you, JJ. Like here's the reality

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now that we, we have to wrap our heads around

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as Bill's fans. We know exactly how this team

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can win it all. And how they can win it all is

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how they played on Sunday against the Chiefs.

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Stout defense with a great four -man pass rush,

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taking advantage of, for what seems like the

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first time in forever, some real athletes at

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the second level, and Max Harrison, Cole Bishop,

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and to a lesser extent, Jordan Hancock, and play

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defense in that way, and then let your offense

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be the sufficient Well run game managed machine

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that takes advantage of the correct deep play

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action shots, which we're going to get to and

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we got throw Joe Brady some flowers for for finally

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doing what we've been asking to him due to on

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this pod for so long. But here's the downside.

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We also know how the squad is going to lose.

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This squad is going to lose. As you have said,

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and I have said, if you run into a team, like

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unfortunately the team we are staring up at in

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the AFC East, you run into a team that can manage

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your run game and has outside corners that can

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shut down your receivers and leave you only small

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chunks in the middle of the field. That's how

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you stymie and stifle this offense. To me, JJ,

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the priorities were defensive line because of

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the injuries to Ed Oliver, the unknown return

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timeline to TJ Sanders, and now Michael Hoyt

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being out and the versatility that he brought.

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And still wide receiver, even as good in that

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Chiefs game as they were, you still saw the Chiefs

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with the ability to leave a spy at the line of

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scrimmage on Josh Allen and shadow him to keep

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him in the pocket, which reduces like 25%. of

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what this offense kind of leans on and kind of

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feeds on, which is Josh being improvisational

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and sort of breaking glass in case of emergency

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scrambles out of the pocket for big chunk yardage

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when nothing is downfield. If teams do not have

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to deploy extra resources in order to guard our

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pass catchers, that opportunity is going to continue

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to be stymied for Josh all season. So we know

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how they win, man. It's the way that they won

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against the Chiefs, and we know how they lose.

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It's the way the Patriots, and to a lesser extent,

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the Falcons, handled them this year. And there

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are some teams in the AFC that can hand the Bills

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losses in that way when we get into the postseason.

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So we're going to see. I like the predictability,

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I guess. Maybe that gives me a little bit of

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sense of calm. But yeah, I want to see them do

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more, too. JJ, is there any player, especially

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now that we've seen the compensation for a lot

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of guys that were doled out at the deadline,

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is there any player that you wish the Bills would

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have maybe, oh, I don't want to say overreached

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for, but maybe overpaid for to snatch them away

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from another squad. Maybe Rashid Shahid, but

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at the same, like, and that's maybe the only

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one, because I, people might say any of the players

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that left the AFC East from Miami or the Jets.

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But the thing with those is those trades are

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never going to happen. I don't think if Brandon

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Bean says, hey, Miami, I'll give you three firsts

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for probably I mean, he did say in his press

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conference, everyone has a price like he he might

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have, but he would have been required to pay

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a king's ransom for a middling pass rusher. to

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get to get anybody. And that was a lot of the

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sellers were AFC opponents of the bills who had

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a may have had a particular way to feel about

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making the bills richer, right, with their talent.

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And so I do think that it probably came down

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to price. I think Rashid Shaheed would have been

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a nice piece given kind of the compensation.

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And the bills were probably probably at a higher

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price to try to get him. Right. Yeah. I would

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imagine, yeah. And even that Rashid Shahid feels

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like another Curtis Samuel, slightly better to

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me. I think he's got way more... efficacy on

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the outside just because he, I mean, he really

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is like true speed. He is a real deal vertical

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threat down the field, which is what they're

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kind of missing to take the top off of opposing

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defenses. Shahid is the one that felt like a

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miss to me. Um, you know, and I put this out

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on threads and socials, even though he's not

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great in the pass rush game anymore. Draymond

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Jones, uh, edge out of Tennessee. He's got some

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of that inside ins outside inside versatility

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along the defensive line that the bills have

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valued. But he is a plus run defender off the

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edge. I love what Joey Bosa is doing. But if

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we're it's going to be a long, cold remainder

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of the season on some obvious rundowns, it'd

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be great to have somebody that can spell spell

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Bosa on the other side of that line. And Jones,

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to me, especially for the price that he went

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for, felt like someone who would have been worth

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taking a flyer on as a rental for this year to

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take nothing away from AJ Appaneza. But also

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too, Bean is probably thinking like, I drafted

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Landon Jackson with a top 100 pick. Maybe now

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it's time to see what that kid can do now that

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Hoyt's out of commission. And let's just take

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two minutes on that. There isn't a single player

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in the last five years of Bill's history. that

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I've enjoyed watching more than Josh Allen or

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Michael Hoyt. And he just played like a like

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six quarters. And I'm just like, that is my favorite

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Bill's player. Like the dude just he's a Bill's

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Mafia spirit animal. Yeah. Magnificent. He could

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never play another snap. And he's a legend. He

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literally like I no longer remember the name

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of the middle linebacker who came out of Hawaii,

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who? took Bill's Mafia by storm for one season

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and then was traded to Miami. What was his name?

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It was weird. Sean Merriman? No, Josh Allen put

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him in a blender running the ball once after

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he moved to Miami. Kiko Alonso. Kiko Alonzo.

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Yes, Michael Hoy. Was he a liar? He was Oregon.

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I thought he went to Oregon. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't know why. Oh, Kiko made me think of why.

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Yeah, Kiko Alonzo came in and was so amazing

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for one season. And what we didn't realize was

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he was just sort of accidentally doing things.

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But like, that's what I mean about the energy

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that Michael Hoyt brought. I haven't seen that

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since Kiko Alonso, where people are just like,

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look at that guy. And it was six quarters and

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he's done. He's toast. And thank God they got

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him for a three year deal. And I hope, and I

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mean, he's young enough in his career. The recovery

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from the Achilles tear has been better these

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days than it was years ago when it was an absolute

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death sentence to a career. And so hopefully

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he's backing around. But yeah, that loss made

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me feel at the deadline and like maybe they need

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a little bit of defensive reinforcement, but

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they also know more than we know about Dequan

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Jones, TJ Sanders, you know, and some of these

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other players coming back. Yeah, it tells me

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that I think some of these players will be back

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sooner rather than later, which is is going to

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be very, very timely and. Honestly, the best

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trade deadline acquisition or addition, let's

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say that this team had was Maxwell Harrison,

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man. I mean, let's be honest, the timing of his,

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the timing, his return from IR, the impact that

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he's made his first two games. And to me, that

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feels like the perfect segue to recap some of

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this Chiefs game and get on the positive side

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of what the Bills have been doing for the past

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couple of weeks. JJ, he jumped, not just off

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the broadcast, but off the film upon rewatch

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as well. Dude seems like the real deal. And honestly,

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all I wanted from him in this game, knowing that

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he was probably going to get snaps, was to, whenever

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he was out there, run stride for stride with

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Xavier Worthy. And he did. He did. Right? And

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he didn't look like he was working as hard as

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Xavier Worthy to make that speed, which was also

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insane. And his, I mean, it wasn't just his follow

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speed, dude. And the fact that he was like step

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for step with Worthy, he was tracking the ball

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midair. without losing pace with the fastest

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wide receiver in the NFL, right? I mean, the

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ball tracking skills, the technique on route

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follows. I mean, dude, in the raw speed, he seems

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to have it all. If he would have gotten an advanced

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degree in physics, I would consider his hips

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quantum entangled with the person he's covering

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because that's the kind of paired movement that

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we saw between him and Worthy. They were moving

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in tandem through space and time. in a way that

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was inhuman. Dare is wild. The other thing I'll

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say about Max Harrison is, I guess I'm looking

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back today. I'm thinking to the past. He gives

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me also the early Tridavius white energy because

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he is enthusiastic. The team rallies around him.

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He seems like he's a likable guy. Most people

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have said that he's a super good dude in regards

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to him joining the team. He was just crushing

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it and people were cheering and celebrating his

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successes. And so I'm very excited about him.

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Yeah, same. He reminds me of Trey White, not

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just for the personality, but I was thinking

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about this the other day as I was kind of compiling

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some notes for this pod. He reminds me of Trey

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White in that the book on Trey coming out of

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LSU was that this is a press man corner, and

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Trey very quickly adapted to the zone -heavy

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scheme that the Buffalo Bills were running and

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immediately showed his coverage versatility by

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being able to, early on in his career, be effective

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in both man and zone. But really Trey became

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known later in his career as like a zone technician.

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It's the opposite with Maxwell, Harrison, where

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we were like, all right, he's kind of a game

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tackler, but we don't know if we'll be able to

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stick guys in the run game, but we know he can

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play zone and we'll see with his build if he's

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able to play any kind of press man or type man.

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And the bills have put him in his first couple

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of games. vast majority, almost exclusively in

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these tough one -on -one man situations, despite

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his chops, coming out of college as a zone cover

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corner. So like super impressive and very much

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so like Trey to me in that he's got scheme versatility,

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he's got coverage versatility. A lot of it has

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to do with the athleticism, but you see the football

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IQ. You see how he studies route trees and opposing

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wide receivers, his ability to jump routes, follow

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routes. I mean, he knows. is a lot of these landmarks

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that these wide receivers are going to better

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than a lot of the wide outs that are running

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them. Like he's clearly a well studied, very

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athletic, very sharp corner. That's got a lot

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of versatility within the scheme. Well, I think

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we both know it from watching a lot of the NFL.

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The most dangerous players are the ones who have

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all of the physical gifts and then are also willing

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to put the work in to perfect their craft. Right.

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so many times. I mean, it's like pretty much

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it's a trope at this point in the NFL. You get

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one or the other, right? You get the guy who

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has all the physical gifts but doesn't really

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want to work at it because it's always been easy

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for him. And then the guy who is a super try

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-hard but has just never had the elite speed.

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If he's the full package, that's what makes you

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a top five player in the league. You know, those

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players are the ones who step aside. That's right.

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And if you're just a super try -hard, you start

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a podcast with your best friend, Jim on the Buffalo

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Bills. Yeah, exactly. and you just keep plugging

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away. That's right. That's right. But yeah, man,

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outside of Maxwell, Harrison, lots of stuff on

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the defense data to me, particularly the four

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man pass rush. Listen, man, you're the you're

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the defensive line guru. You're the offensive

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line guru. That four man pass rush has been pretty

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sick all season. What did you see from them that

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really popped off the screen to you against Casey?

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They used a lot. They took defensive linemen

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off the field. We've talked about this because

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they've played the last few times they've played

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the Chiefs. They've done this in that they've

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used more linebackers to play defensive line

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spots and then simulated pressures where they

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have people crowd the line and then they only

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have a four -man rush. But Patrick Mahomes doesn't

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know who it is, who's coming. And one of them

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players in this game, it was Milano. It was Milano

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Hoyt and Dorian Williams all kind of traded off

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that mirror match with Mahomes because he had

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been killing so many teams by running the ball.

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They kept him hand in. I think it was one rush

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for five yards. And it was just that he didn't

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know who was going to rush him, who was going

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to sit back and wait and then rush him, who was

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going to sit back, wait. look like they're going

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to rush him and then drop into coverage. They

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just did an amazing job of muddling the picture

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in the middle of the field. The defensive line

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was doing an awesome job of having linebackers

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kind of chip line the tackles to free up stunts

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and twists, which is like it's done in the league,

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but it's not super common. And so sending their

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super athletic linebackers in to cause havoc

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and stop blocking angles just to free up Bosa,

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Rousseau, Hoyt. Was all things done. It's part

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of the reason you didn't see a lot from Deion

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Walker or any of the tackles in the game Because

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one the Chiefs with the game script kind of got

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away from the run a little bit They are not a

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super great rushing team this season even though

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they started leaning into it recently and on

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top of that the Bills were just kind of they're

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playing they're playing games with them and putting

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them behind the sticks to the point where they

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felt like they could not run and I mean it was

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awesome without Pacheco they don't have a ton

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of juice cream hunts not breaking any tackles

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and taking anything 80 yards anymore. Um, but

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yeah, the defensive line put on a clinic and

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even the really, really good interior three for

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the chiefs. I mean, they started suffering injuries,

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which always blows up protection schemes, but

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really they, uh, they were kind of twisting up

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some of the best, best in the league, uh, by

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just creating better rush angles. And then on

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top of that, I think a lot of people were kind

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of dogging on Rousseau. I was as well early in

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the season, we gave them this huge contract.

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Yeah, he was plain injured, it seems, because

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he looks completely different the past two weeks

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than he did before the buy. Oh, absolutely. I

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mean, you know, Rousseau had the perfect example

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of not a stat sheet game. This is exactly the

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reason why so many Bills fans would get frustrated

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with Tremaine Edmonds back, way back when, because

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the dude would just clean up so much stuff that...

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didn't appear on the stat sheet, but let other

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guys really thrive. Rousseau was that version

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of, of himself on the defensive line. Um, he

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was pushing the pocket, absolutely blowing up

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his opposing tackle, um, in pure pass rush situations,

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sealing off the edge and setting a really hard

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edge in the run game as well. And I mean, he

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just moved a lot of the pocket towards like Bosa

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towards Hoyt. towards a lot of AJ Appaneza just

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moved the pocket in their direction and allowed

00:19:53.589 --> 00:19:55.990
them to really feast in their one -on -one matchups

00:19:55.990 --> 00:19:59.029
too. He affected the game in so many different

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ways, again, that show up on film but don't show

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up in the box score. But to me, That was Rousseau's,

00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:07.720
maybe one of his top two games of the season,

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the way he played. And if your hypothesis is

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correct and he was playing hurt and now he is

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playing healthy, it couldn't come at a better

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time for this Buffalo Bills defensive line as

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they start to coalesce and start to figure out

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life after Michael Hoyt's injury. JJ, one other

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thing I want to add, I don't want to get your

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take on this. I really like the way the Bills

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finished their pressures on this game. You and

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I, and I don't want to rekindle any past arguments,

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but you and I have lived through enough of the

00:20:36.700 --> 00:20:39.059
Jerry Hughes film where it's pressure without

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effect. Like yes, this counts as pressure, a

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QB pressure technically, on the advanced analytics

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and in the stat sheet. But when you watch it

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on film, it's just kind of Jerry waving goodbye

00:20:50.259 --> 00:20:53.440
at Patrick as he runs right past him and Patrick's

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climbing up in the pocket to make like a dot

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throw to someone 30 yards downfield. That was

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not the way the pressure worked in this game.

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Not only did it score well, metrically, you saw

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the Bills finishing those pressures with QB hits

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and real violence at the point of meeting Mahomes.

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I think the most notable one was AJ Apaneza with

00:21:13.829 --> 00:21:16.349
that hit on Mahomes on the sideline as he's just

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releasing a pass. I'm a little surprised didn't

00:21:18.930 --> 00:21:23.690
get flagged, but I'm not upset that it didn't

00:21:23.690 --> 00:21:26.450
get flagged. But the Bills weren't just getting

00:21:26.450 --> 00:21:28.329
meaningless pressure. They were finishing that

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pressure physically whenever they made it to

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my home. Oh, my gosh. And that's it, too, is

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like pressure over sacks. Like there's no debate

00:21:35.569 --> 00:21:37.650
that the better thing is actually hitting the

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quarterback is putting them in the dirt. Like

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I've said that even though I used to defend Jerry

00:21:42.390 --> 00:21:47.400
Hughes, I absolutely know that the truth is pressure

00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:50.740
is better than nothing, hits are better than

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pressures, and then sacks are better than hits,

00:21:53.099 --> 00:21:56.059
right? Like in that order, it's a greater than

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big fish eats the little, or little fish is eaten

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by the bigger fish, which is eaten by the bigger

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fish situation. The bills in the previous nine

00:22:02.819 --> 00:22:05.779
meetings with the chiefs were averaging one and

00:22:05.779 --> 00:22:09.000
a half sacks and six QB hits per game. And they

00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:12.240
had three sacks and 15 QB hits. So they hit,

00:22:12.339 --> 00:22:14.799
they physically hit. Patrick Holmes 18 times

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in this game, which of course is a high watermark

00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:20.640
for any of their their times that they've come

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up coming into the Chiefs. And if they can kind

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of maintain or improve or even just maintain

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that level, he clearly was uncomfortable with

00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:31.039
the worst statistical game of his entire career

00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:35.309
and didn't complete 50 % of his balls. And we

00:22:35.309 --> 00:22:37.369
all know this. We knew this when we watched the

00:22:37.369 --> 00:22:39.869
Super Bowl against the Eagles. We knew this in

00:22:39.869 --> 00:22:43.029
the Super Bowl against the Buccaneers. Yeah.

00:22:43.569 --> 00:22:45.710
That Patrick Mahomes isn't the type of player.

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And no, I don't think any, to be fair to him,

00:22:48.390 --> 00:22:50.049
most quarterbacks are not the type of player

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who get that. shit kicked out of them and are

00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:56.180
awesome at their job, right? You don't need to

00:22:56.180 --> 00:22:58.500
be fair to him. This is a Bill's podcast. You're

00:22:58.500 --> 00:23:01.460
right. He's soft. He's soft, he's weak, and he

00:23:01.460 --> 00:23:03.759
sounds like Kermit. I would say there are two

00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:06.299
QBs who can get the shit kicked out of them and

00:23:06.299 --> 00:23:08.460
still play their best ball. One is on our team

00:23:08.460 --> 00:23:10.900
with Josh Allen. The other is Baker Mayfield,

00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:12.380
who we're going to play in a couple of weeks.

00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.400
And I think that's the list. Right. And that's

00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:17.680
exactly the point I was getting to, is that most

00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:20.039
quarterbacks don't, very rarely quarterbacks

00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:23.440
do We've got one, they don't. We're going to

00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:25.740
play one this weekend and the Dolphins who doesn't,

00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:28.200
right? Like the players that you're physical

00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:30.359
with who just fall out of their game and get

00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:32.640
in their own head, Patrick Mahomes is in that

00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:36.480
list. Another piece of the defense, JJ, that

00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:39.259
I want to talk about here is Cole Bishop. And

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this is kind of married to the pass rush because

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the Bills did not get quick pressures in this

00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:48.779
game. And Mahomes had been a quick game merchant.

00:23:48.990 --> 00:23:51.450
over the past few weeks. I think he's had the

00:23:51.450 --> 00:23:53.170
quickest time to throw of his entire career.

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In this game, the Bills made him hold onto the

00:23:55.710 --> 00:23:59.250
ball for over 3 .3 seconds, which is insane to

00:23:59.250 --> 00:24:02.170
think about when you see what ultimately Mahomes

00:24:02.170 --> 00:24:05.190
box score ended up being. A lot of credit, JJ,

00:24:05.630 --> 00:24:07.690
goes to the overall coverage scheme that we've

00:24:07.690 --> 00:24:10.190
already talked about, starting with Maxwell -Harriston,

00:24:10.630 --> 00:24:13.700
but dude, Cole Bishop. Cole Bishop finding his

00:24:13.700 --> 00:24:16.720
footing, not just in the past coverage game,

00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:19.559
but being sort of that specialist, that guy who

00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:22.279
we've been waiting for to take Travis Kelsey

00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:24.500
out of the equation on some of his routes, right?

00:24:24.859 --> 00:24:27.829
The way that Bishop. was being floated to the

00:24:27.829 --> 00:24:30.170
line of scrimmage. And then we see Cam Lewis

00:24:30.170 --> 00:24:32.490
kind of drop back out of the slot and basically

00:24:32.490 --> 00:24:35.549
play free safety a lot of times. It was a confusing

00:24:35.549 --> 00:24:39.130
look pre and post snap for Mahomes, which held

00:24:39.130 --> 00:24:41.829
stuff up, but it allowed Bishop to really do

00:24:41.829 --> 00:24:43.970
what he does best, which is get physical with

00:24:43.970 --> 00:24:48.789
guys. And it was, I don't know, cathartic heartwarming

00:24:48.789 --> 00:24:52.109
to see that dude who is he's not not a small

00:24:52.109 --> 00:24:55.099
dude, right? But next to Travis Kelsey, he looks

00:24:55.099 --> 00:24:57.680
like somebody's little brother, just absolutely

00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:00.700
lay shoulder after shoulder, arm after arm into

00:25:00.700 --> 00:25:03.440
Kelsey's chest, chipping him at the line of scrimmage,

00:25:03.700 --> 00:25:06.660
delaying his get off on his route, delaying the

00:25:06.660 --> 00:25:08.380
timing between him and Mahomes, which allowed

00:25:08.380 --> 00:25:10.720
that pass rush to get home. Not to mention the

00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:12.880
pass breakups in the deep part of the field too.

00:25:13.220 --> 00:25:17.339
This was the most versatile version of Cole Bishop

00:25:17.339 --> 00:25:20.839
in this defense and easily his best game that

00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:25.440
he's played as a Buffalo Bill. Yeah, I mean four

00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.299
of the five teams teams pass breakups were his

00:25:28.299 --> 00:25:30.640
he was affecting the ball He was looking like

00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.500
a difference maker out there. He basically closed

00:25:33.500 --> 00:25:35.559
the game out He and Maxwell Harrison the two

00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:38.279
people that I mentioned in the jump that give

00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:41.160
me the most hope for this defense In coverage.

00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:44.160
I it was definitely people are saying coming

00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:45.900
out party. I agree completely He looks like he

00:25:45.900 --> 00:25:49.099
knows what he's doing. I Want to give some kudos

00:25:49.099 --> 00:25:51.460
to Jordan Poirier because I think that's a steadying

00:25:51.460 --> 00:25:54.140
hand back there That's somebody who knows the

00:25:54.140 --> 00:25:56.759
knows the defense is an old hat at it And I think

00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:59.299
that that must that probably has helped Cole

00:25:59.299 --> 00:26:02.039
Bishop a little bit play a little bit faster

00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:05.359
Understand his his reads his role and get out

00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:07.839
there and kind of trigger and shut down things.

00:26:08.339 --> 00:26:11.200
So I Don't know man. He keeps that up. We we

00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:13.059
can say we have finally figured out at least

00:26:13.059 --> 00:26:15.980
one of the safety spots And this is what we wanted.

00:26:16.220 --> 00:26:18.200
We wanted this coat, you know, even though we

00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:20.339
said we wanted it. Then when we got it, we didn't

00:26:20.339 --> 00:26:22.980
want it anymore. But now this is what happens

00:26:22.980 --> 00:26:25.779
when you let your young guys take lumps and really

00:26:25.779 --> 00:26:28.220
big games. Bishop had not looked good at the

00:26:28.220 --> 00:26:30.460
start of the season. Was really struggling to

00:26:30.460 --> 00:26:33.359
find his fit with rap. Had a couple of flashes.

00:26:33.819 --> 00:26:36.970
Saints game, most notable, right? But the safety

00:26:36.970 --> 00:26:40.289
position around him begins to solidify. We also

00:26:40.289 --> 00:26:42.930
see a change in defensive play caller going from

00:26:42.930 --> 00:26:45.750
Babich to McDermott, which I think has helped

00:26:45.750 --> 00:26:48.150
the situation a little bit more too. I mean,

00:26:48.250 --> 00:26:50.210
McD, man, he just knows what to do with safeties.

00:26:50.329 --> 00:26:53.599
Like he just knows how to maximize that. uh,

00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:56.880
that position group. So those two things happen.

00:26:57.099 --> 00:26:59.839
And now we see the young guys after taking their

00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:02.440
lumps, really starting to shape into form and

00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:04.720
exactly the time where the bills need them to

00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:08.460
is they continue to chase, forget one seat in

00:27:08.460 --> 00:27:11.039
the conference. They are chasing the top spot

00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:13.359
in their own division at this point. And all

00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:15.339
of these young guys are going to have to contribute

00:27:15.339 --> 00:27:17.000
to it. So it was great to see Bishop rise up

00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:20.000
to the occasion. Yeah. Um, JJ, we got to talk

00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:23.940
about the offense. Um, another, I would say masterclass

00:27:23.940 --> 00:27:26.819
from Josh Allen against bags and capsulated by,

00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:28.940
did you see their post? post game handshake.

00:27:28.940 --> 00:27:30.519
Yeah, he's like, I don't want you retired already.

00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:32.079
I don't want to play against you any longer.

00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:36.339
So amazing. It was so amazing. That is that is

00:27:36.339 --> 00:27:38.559
such high praise coming from Spagnolo, because

00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:40.940
there are not many players in the league that

00:27:40.940 --> 00:27:43.000
that dude looks at and doesn't have an answer

00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:46.319
for an absolute answer for. Yeah. Belichick looked

00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.900
at Al in the same way, too. Yeah. And, you know,

00:27:48.900 --> 00:27:52.119
that is absolutely we knew we have the guy, but

00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:54.380
that just kind of confirms that each time a coach

00:27:54.380 --> 00:27:58.019
is like. What do I do? You know, it's what I

00:27:58.019 --> 00:28:01.200
do against this unicorn. Yeah, he did it in a

00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:03.160
completely different way than he had done before.

00:28:03.339 --> 00:28:05.740
I mean, this was Josh's best quarterback game

00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:08.420
of the season for my money. It wasn't just the

00:28:08.420 --> 00:28:11.519
insane completion percentage to me, the way it

00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:13.660
was, the way he was seeing the field, the way

00:28:13.660 --> 00:28:17.720
he was distributing the ball. I posted up a really,

00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:21.359
really snarky. Thread on social media about everybody

00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.099
eats versus everybody gotta eat right and our

00:28:24.099 --> 00:28:26.279
version clearly being better after this game

00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.920
Josh completes passes to nine different pass

00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:31.759
catchers insane completion percentage But JJ

00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:35.000
to me what was different was the average yard

00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.539
was the average yards per attempt and the a dot

00:28:37.539 --> 00:28:41.359
in this game It wasn't bombs away necessarily

00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:44.740
but Brady schemed up some really good play action

00:28:44.740 --> 00:28:47.460
looks that did let Josh attack downfield. This

00:28:47.460 --> 00:28:50.680
was his highest A -dot of the season in play

00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.400
action. Prior to this, his most average air yards

00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:56.700
per attempt in play action was sitting at about

00:28:56.700 --> 00:29:00.579
9 .7. In this game, it was about 12 yards per

00:29:00.579 --> 00:29:04.279
attempt average depth of target. On play action

00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.720
passes and it paid off significantly in this

00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.339
game So props to Brady. He didn't spam play action

00:29:11.339 --> 00:29:13.920
like I think we wanted him to but man He schemed

00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:16.319
up the right moments and he got these tight ends

00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:19.019
working in that play action game, too Yeah, and

00:29:19.019 --> 00:29:21.880
I mean that was it was the kind of thing where

00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:24.720
we saw again It was just like we talked about

00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:28.740
the Panthers. We saw what it looked like when

00:29:28.740 --> 00:29:33.240
Joe Brady's designs affected to set up the defense

00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:35.380
for the way he wanted them to be set up. And

00:29:35.380 --> 00:29:38.000
then the players executed the plays in a way

00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.720
that they were able to build on his vision, right?

00:29:41.819 --> 00:29:45.019
So like it was, again, the best combination of

00:29:45.019 --> 00:29:48.119
scheme and execution. When that is all lined

00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:51.039
up, I can tell you why, you know, I can point

00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:54.119
to reasons why he is considered a hot name for

00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:55.839
head coaching positions in the future, right?

00:29:56.420 --> 00:30:01.039
Like, but... You know when stuff falls apart

00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:03.480
it seems to fall apart for the whole game So

00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:06.460
it's a question of again. We love what we saw

00:30:06.460 --> 00:30:08.140
from the offense. We love what we saw from the

00:30:08.140 --> 00:30:11.380
defense How do they adapt? How do they play role

00:30:11.380 --> 00:30:14.000
with the punches if they come out? Saw like in

00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:15.539
the first half and they're they're stuttering

00:30:15.539 --> 00:30:18.539
a little bit and so It hasn't been great this

00:30:18.539 --> 00:30:20.720
season and hopefully this game gives them the

00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:22.980
confidence to kind of recover in those situations

00:30:22.980 --> 00:30:25.119
But I mean there what can you complain about

00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:28.150
Josh Allen set and? Buffalo Bills franchise record

00:30:28.150 --> 00:30:31.029
for completion percentage with over 20 completions

00:30:31.029 --> 00:30:34.809
in a game Going 23 of 26 one TD. We were wrong.

00:30:34.849 --> 00:30:36.630
We both thought he's gonna throw two or more

00:30:36.630 --> 00:30:38.930
We were wrong. We thought Xavier were they was

00:30:38.930 --> 00:30:41.529
gonna go off for 80 plus yards, but Harrison

00:30:41.529 --> 00:30:44.869
shut him down I love that so much. I love it

00:30:44.869 --> 00:30:48.009
so much And so yeah, there was the offense was

00:30:48.009 --> 00:30:50.390
good freaking James Cook runs over a hundred

00:30:50.390 --> 00:30:52.109
yards for the first time against the Chiefs in

00:30:52.109 --> 00:30:55.609
24 games You know proving that this Buffalo Bills

00:30:56.250 --> 00:30:59.410
offensive attack, rushing attack can be the cornerstone

00:30:59.410 --> 00:31:02.849
of the whole unit. And it will go. No, go ahead.

00:31:02.970 --> 00:31:06.029
Just finish the thought real quick. And I think

00:31:06.029 --> 00:31:08.529
for me, a lot of Bill's fans, because we have

00:31:08.529 --> 00:31:10.650
Josh Allen want to see him throw for 400 yards

00:31:10.650 --> 00:31:14.549
and four touchdowns every week. That's not how

00:31:14.549 --> 00:31:18.950
the bill that's not how most teams create a Super

00:31:18.950 --> 00:31:21.470
Bowl winning franchise, you know, attempt on

00:31:21.470 --> 00:31:24.359
a season. That's just not it like that. What

00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.880
the Kurt Warner, uh, you know, Rams over the

00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.680
past. There's only a few teams that have done

00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:33.480
that. Um, the, uh, Broncos with, uh, with the,

00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:35.339
you know, later career pain manning, there's

00:31:35.339 --> 00:31:37.880
a few teams that have done that, but most teams

00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:40.259
need to have a rushing attack or you're not seeing

00:31:40.259 --> 00:31:42.880
the postseason success that the bills want to

00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:46.380
see. Yeah, no, it's, it's very true. And this

00:31:46.380 --> 00:31:48.700
is the piece that feels the most different to

00:31:48.700 --> 00:31:51.619
me is. If you're the chiefs, like you didn't

00:31:51.619 --> 00:31:54.019
get out schemed in the run game though. It's

00:31:54.019 --> 00:31:56.019
a, it's a beautiful, it's a beautiful run design

00:31:56.019 --> 00:31:58.900
that Brady has developed alongside her and Cromer

00:31:58.900 --> 00:32:01.039
and Buffalo, but you didn't get out schemed.

00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.799
You got out physical, you got out manned. And

00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:06.359
if you're the Kansas city chiefs also having

00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.039
done nothing at the trade deadline, I don't know

00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.069
that there's a lot of schematic answers. to meet

00:32:12.069 --> 00:32:14.049
that physical disadvantage that you're going

00:32:14.049 --> 00:32:16.150
to have when you play the Bills, potentially

00:32:16.150 --> 00:32:18.569
again in the postseason either. And this is an

00:32:18.569 --> 00:32:21.250
advantage, JJ, that we have seen the Bills develop

00:32:21.250 --> 00:32:23.950
against the Chiefs year after year after year.

00:32:24.009 --> 00:32:26.509
This is a team, we talk about bad matchups, the

00:32:26.509 --> 00:32:28.829
Ravens being a perpetually bad matchup for the

00:32:28.829 --> 00:32:31.069
Buffalo Bills. I think it's fair to say that

00:32:31.069 --> 00:32:33.170
at least on the offensive side of the ball, the

00:32:33.170 --> 00:32:35.309
Buffalo Bills are a really bad matchup for the

00:32:35.309 --> 00:32:38.970
way this current Kansas City Chiefs defense and

00:32:38.970 --> 00:32:42.630
their personnel is constructed. Yeah, absolutely.

00:32:42.789 --> 00:32:46.109
And I think that, you know, even though Bill's

00:32:46.109 --> 00:32:49.730
mafia now hates Romo, I guess, but even on the

00:32:49.730 --> 00:32:52.490
broadcast, he was saying during the game, during

00:32:52.490 --> 00:32:54.450
the latter part of the game, that this Bill's

00:32:54.450 --> 00:32:57.329
team is built to defeat the Chiefs. They've been

00:32:57.329 --> 00:33:00.049
designed from the ground up to kind of expose

00:33:00.049 --> 00:33:04.250
weaknesses and beat the team. But then, you know,

00:33:04.369 --> 00:33:06.369
when comes crunch time in the playoffs, it seems

00:33:06.369 --> 00:33:08.130
to be sometimes the coaching is the difference,

00:33:08.130 --> 00:33:12.359
right? So we'll see how that goes. I just want

00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:15.700
to say like, this is the first time in a long

00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:18.180
time that the Bills have had two edge rushers

00:33:18.180 --> 00:33:20.740
on the team at the same time who are kind of

00:33:20.740 --> 00:33:23.519
graded by most of the like, you know, most of

00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.720
the people in the know when it comes to grading

00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:28.640
in the top 15 at the position. And that's, that's

00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:30.799
amazing, right? Joey Bose and Greg Russo both

00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:33.519
looking very well to those people who study every

00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:36.619
snap and every play. It is the pass rush and

00:33:36.619 --> 00:33:38.519
the coverage now finally looking like they're

00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:42.019
going to be married. There is a lot to look forward

00:33:42.019 --> 00:33:44.599
to for the Buffalo Bills here coming down the

00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:47.240
home stretch of their season. And JJ, a lot of

00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:49.599
that is going to start this week. It is Finn's

00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.359
week. We are playing the Miami Dolphins in Miami.

00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.619
for the second of our two divisional matchups

00:33:55.619 --> 00:33:58.819
with the squad. While Miami is not technically

00:33:58.819 --> 00:34:00.619
out of the playoff hunt yet, they sit here at

00:34:00.619 --> 00:34:02.819
two and seven and would need a miraculous run

00:34:02.819 --> 00:34:05.920
after parting ways with their longtime GM Chris

00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:09.179
Greer last week and trading away some key pieces

00:34:09.179 --> 00:34:11.739
at the trade deadline. So it doesn't feel like

00:34:11.739 --> 00:34:14.960
a playoff run is in this group's destiny necessarily.

00:34:15.340 --> 00:34:18.099
And probably a lot more transition to come for

00:34:18.099 --> 00:34:20.880
Miami. But first they got to play the Buffalo

00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.840
Bills this weekend. Uh, one PM kick, uh, in Miami,

00:34:25.420 --> 00:34:28.559
JJ, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna set the table

00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.860
here. This, the injury report for the bills is

00:34:31.860 --> 00:34:34.320
lengthy and everyone was freaking out on Wednesday

00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.019
because you know, James Cook was a DNP, even

00:34:37.019 --> 00:34:38.679
though Wednesdays are normally like, I think

00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:40.800
walkthrough practices. So kind of what's the

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:44.300
point. It was a limited participant today. I

00:34:44.300 --> 00:34:46.699
am going to start setting the table here by saying

00:34:46.699 --> 00:34:50.969
something bold, even if James Cook. Does not

00:34:50.969 --> 00:34:53.710
play in this game. There is no reason for the

00:34:53.710 --> 00:34:56.090
Buffalo Bills to lose this game to this version

00:34:56.090 --> 00:34:58.510
of the Miami Dolphins They just don't are not

00:34:58.510 --> 00:35:01.650
gonna have answers For anything the Buffalo Bills

00:35:01.650 --> 00:35:05.409
want to do on defense or on offense rather. Yeah

00:35:05.409 --> 00:35:08.210
Yeah, I think that the the Buffalo Bills this

00:35:08.210 --> 00:35:10.050
could be a kind of a redemption arc game if James

00:35:10.050 --> 00:35:11.489
Cook doesn't play this could be a redemption

00:35:11.489 --> 00:35:15.639
arc game for Ray Davis to kind of Plant his flag

00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:17.780
as I am a capable running back. I think that

00:35:17.780 --> 00:35:20.639
he's had some body composition changes It's a

00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:23.420
little bit of a maybe there's some scheme differentiation

00:35:23.420 --> 00:35:26.659
He hasn't seemed like he's been a confident runner

00:35:26.659 --> 00:35:28.719
go out there and get it young man, right? Like

00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.860
let's do this thing Because between him he and

00:35:31.860 --> 00:35:35.320
Ty Johnson. I'm not that worried about the bills

00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:40.429
won't need a spectacular a spectacular kind of

00:35:40.429 --> 00:35:43.329
like broken open run play to handily run win

00:35:43.329 --> 00:35:46.230
this game with their game script with their ball

00:35:46.230 --> 00:35:48.489
control offense with working it down the middle

00:35:48.489 --> 00:35:51.769
of the field with a healthy Dalton concave with

00:35:51.769 --> 00:35:54.530
some, you know, seam shots to Elijah Moore. If

00:35:54.530 --> 00:35:56.429
Josh Palmer is back, that could be a thing, right?

00:35:56.469 --> 00:35:59.630
Like they have enough tools and weapons against

00:35:59.630 --> 00:36:05.050
what has been a surprisingly plucky Miami defense.

00:36:05.690 --> 00:36:08.190
in the face of having a terrible offense, but

00:36:08.190 --> 00:36:11.070
still being like 29th and scoring against. So

00:36:11.070 --> 00:36:13.449
they're like, they, they make some, cause I've,

00:36:13.469 --> 00:36:15.730
I've actually had the Miami Dolphins defense

00:36:15.730 --> 00:36:17.329
on my fantasy team for a number of weeks and

00:36:17.329 --> 00:36:19.309
they have, they have plays, like they get stats

00:36:19.309 --> 00:36:21.650
in fantasy, they get some sacks, they get interceptions,

00:36:21.690 --> 00:36:23.610
things like that, but they're losing all the

00:36:23.610 --> 00:36:25.550
games, right? Like when it counts, they're not,

00:36:25.570 --> 00:36:28.369
they're not stepping up. And specifically the

00:36:28.369 --> 00:36:30.809
linebackers in coverage, they're, they have one

00:36:30.809 --> 00:36:34.219
good safety and two poor outside corners. Who

00:36:34.219 --> 00:36:36.780
are they covering? Like even these bills receivers

00:36:36.780 --> 00:36:38.380
should be able to get some separation and make

00:36:38.380 --> 00:36:40.820
some hay. Yeah, when we talk about the formula

00:36:40.820 --> 00:36:43.460
that to beat the Buffalo Bills stout in the run

00:36:43.460 --> 00:36:46.480
game up front with your defensive line and then

00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:48.780
coverage corners that can take out your outside

00:36:48.780 --> 00:36:51.760
wide receivers. The Miami Duffles don't have

00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:55.059
either of those things right now in defensive.

00:36:55.260 --> 00:36:58.539
past defensive or rush defense efficiency. They

00:36:58.539 --> 00:37:03.159
sit 28th, 28th in the league JJ. That is worse

00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:05.340
than the Buffalo Bills who do not have a rushing

00:37:05.340 --> 00:37:07.699
defense to write home about either necessarily.

00:37:08.179 --> 00:37:11.199
So I think from a schematic standpoint, even

00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:13.920
if James Cook is out a personnel standpoint as

00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.199
well, the Bills will have some advantages here.

00:37:16.489 --> 00:37:18.429
And what I liked about the Kansas City game that

00:37:18.429 --> 00:37:20.989
I'd like to see roll over into this game and

00:37:20.989 --> 00:37:23.610
Bill's future games is while everybody eats was

00:37:23.610 --> 00:37:25.449
clearly still a thing because of the way the

00:37:25.449 --> 00:37:28.289
ball was distributed, we began to finally see

00:37:28.289 --> 00:37:31.349
like a solidified pecking order that the Bills

00:37:31.349 --> 00:37:34.150
were going to begin to go to. Dalton Kincaid,

00:37:34.389 --> 00:37:36.829
I think is fair to say is the primary weapon

00:37:36.829 --> 00:37:41.349
in the past game. in on the squad. I would like

00:37:41.349 --> 00:37:44.369
to see the bills increases usage more. I understand

00:37:44.369 --> 00:37:46.429
they run a lot of heavy personnel and while he

00:37:46.429 --> 00:37:49.369
has improved as a blocker, he is not the best

00:37:49.369 --> 00:37:52.210
blocking tight end that they have. So they're

00:37:52.210 --> 00:37:54.429
taking them off field still for about 50 % of

00:37:54.429 --> 00:37:56.710
his snaps. I just want to see this dude when

00:37:56.710 --> 00:37:58.969
he's on the field get targeted pretty much every

00:37:58.969 --> 00:38:02.699
time he is. Killer against zone. He is their

00:38:02.699 --> 00:38:05.659
best. He's their best man beater JJ and he's

00:38:05.659 --> 00:38:08.820
a mismatch for any linebacker or safety The Dolphins

00:38:08.820 --> 00:38:11.579
are gonna be able to roll out there. So the pecking

00:38:11.579 --> 00:38:13.679
order began to solidify but I want to see Dalton

00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.159
Kincaid Get some get some really quality reps

00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.860
against a team that struggles to defend opposing

00:38:19.860 --> 00:38:23.349
tight outs well, and especially because it With

00:38:23.349 --> 00:38:25.329
Dolan Kincaid's history with the Bills playing

00:38:25.329 --> 00:38:27.710
injured last year, everyone expected a huge breakout

00:38:27.710 --> 00:38:30.530
year from him last year and it never came. I

00:38:30.530 --> 00:38:34.650
think that it's high time for him to go and get

00:38:34.650 --> 00:38:37.409
all the accolades and prove himself and he has

00:38:37.409 --> 00:38:39.630
done a remarkable job of being ready and getting

00:38:39.630 --> 00:38:41.989
ready. He's still got a little bit of the injury

00:38:41.989 --> 00:38:44.639
bug going on, missed some time this year. but

00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:47.179
it does look like he and Josh have a much, much

00:38:47.179 --> 00:38:50.380
better rapport. Josh's catchable ball rate when

00:38:50.380 --> 00:38:54.079
thrown to Dalton Kincaid is like 97%, which last

00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:58.599
year was 54%. And so it definitely seems like

00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.449
he and he and Dalton are on the same page. where

00:39:01.449 --> 00:39:03.909
they weren't all of last year. And so and we

00:39:03.909 --> 00:39:06.250
see it in the games, too. I mean, he's he's so

00:39:06.250 --> 00:39:08.250
sure handed. He's incredible after the catch.

00:39:08.949 --> 00:39:11.750
And just keep it rolling, because I think especially

00:39:11.750 --> 00:39:14.849
with, you know, Jordan Brooks and Tyrell Dodson

00:39:14.849 --> 00:39:17.429
in the middle of the linebacker. And as I mentioned

00:39:17.429 --> 00:39:20.070
before, if he had to, Malafon who might not even

00:39:20.070 --> 00:39:22.210
play. So they just have Minka Fitzpatrick and

00:39:22.210 --> 00:39:24.070
a third or fourth string safety in the back.

00:39:24.150 --> 00:39:27.130
Like it's. pretty bleak if you were the Miami

00:39:27.130 --> 00:39:28.949
Dolphins. Their slot corner's not very good,

00:39:29.630 --> 00:39:31.349
so it's pretty bleak if you're the Miami Dolphins

00:39:31.349 --> 00:39:33.710
and you're looking at a healthy Dalton Cade rolling

00:39:33.710 --> 00:39:37.110
into Hard Rock Stadium. Without a doubt. You

00:39:37.110 --> 00:39:39.489
mentioned Elijah Moore and how he could potentially

00:39:39.489 --> 00:39:43.750
factor into some limited reps here. Is this,

00:39:43.889 --> 00:39:47.369
JJ, I'm going to ask you a very, very probably

00:39:47.369 --> 00:39:50.469
aggravating question. Is this a game where we

00:39:50.469 --> 00:39:53.980
see Keon Coleman? Maybe start to take the step

00:39:53.980 --> 00:39:56.559
forward that we hope he can take. And listen,

00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.460
I, I've got a long ish wind up to this. So let

00:39:59.460 --> 00:40:02.199
me get through it. Yeah. Um, two years into Josh

00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.300
Allen's QB career, we wanted to get rid of Josh.

00:40:05.780 --> 00:40:08.599
Right. Um, two years, as you just so eloquently

00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:10.940
mentioned in Dalton Cade's career, we want to

00:40:10.940 --> 00:40:13.739
get rid of Dalton Cade. Two years into Spencer

00:40:13.739 --> 00:40:16.059
Brown's career, we thought this dude was a bust,

00:40:16.659 --> 00:40:18.480
injury prone. There's no way that he was going

00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:20.699
to be the right tackle of the future. Lo and

00:40:20.699 --> 00:40:24.039
behold, this is where we're at. James Cook, second

00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:25.960
year, solid starter, but he's never going to

00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.679
be able to run with any kind of power. The year

00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:32.739
after, he has an incredible season with yards

00:40:32.739 --> 00:40:34.880
after contact. Okay, but he's not going to be

00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:36.960
able to continue the TD production that he had

00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:38.619
because he's not going to get so many red zone

00:40:38.619 --> 00:40:41.639
reps. His TD production is on pace to outpace

00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:45.260
last year at this point, right? Like I know that

00:40:45.260 --> 00:40:48.440
the window feels like it is closing because this

00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:51.840
is Josh's last season being 29. And I know we

00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:53.519
want him to have some elite weapons and be able

00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:55.739
to sling it and compete with some of the best

00:40:55.739 --> 00:40:58.599
passing offenses in the league. Like it's atrocious

00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:00.699
that Sam Darnold gets the weapons he gets in

00:41:00.699 --> 00:41:03.800
Seattle and Joshua he gets in Buffalo. I hear

00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:07.829
your anger, but is it possible? especially given

00:41:07.829 --> 00:41:10.750
Keon Coleman's unique traits that he just needs

00:41:10.750 --> 00:41:13.170
a little bit more time to bake and could playing

00:41:13.170 --> 00:41:15.909
against a team like the Dolphins begin to set

00:41:15.909 --> 00:41:19.650
the timer on the oven. Wow, that was such an

00:41:19.650 --> 00:41:22.449
impressive and eloquent and thorough lead in

00:41:22.449 --> 00:41:25.619
to the answer. which is no, he's going to suck

00:41:25.619 --> 00:41:30.420
terribly. Because like, I'm so out on Keon Coleman

00:41:30.420 --> 00:41:32.920
after seeing his body, his body posture and his

00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:36.039
like basic attitude in the victory speech is

00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:39.039
just like, like, come on, man, like, you got

00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:41.269
to give more than that. To be fair, I did watch

00:41:41.269 --> 00:41:43.889
the all 22. He did put in a lot of really good

00:41:43.889 --> 00:41:46.150
blocking reps in the run game, you know, the

00:41:46.150 --> 00:41:48.909
kind of selfless play definitely was noticeable

00:41:48.909 --> 00:41:51.789
in the Chiefs game more than it was even against

00:41:51.789 --> 00:41:55.250
the Panthers. And so I do think that there's

00:41:55.250 --> 00:41:56.949
something there's something redeeming there.

00:41:57.010 --> 00:41:59.809
There's a possibility. But for me, I'm just it's

00:41:59.809 --> 00:42:01.809
a prove it to me thing for me, Dan, like he's

00:42:01.809 --> 00:42:04.650
got a it's he's got to stack two or three games

00:42:04.650 --> 00:42:07.869
of 100, you know, not even 100 yards, but two

00:42:07.869 --> 00:42:10.329
or three games where he's a regular, reliable

00:42:10.329 --> 00:42:13.650
pass catcher who is getting separation enough

00:42:13.650 --> 00:42:17.610
to be a viable option in the route. I'm just

00:42:17.610 --> 00:42:19.849
so tired of watching the kind of coaches from

00:42:19.849 --> 00:42:23.969
the end zone angles and seeing Josh Allen. stare

00:42:23.969 --> 00:42:26.769
at Keon Coleman for three beats and then be like,

00:42:26.809 --> 00:42:29.110
ah, okay, I gotta dump it down. Like, you know,

00:42:29.289 --> 00:42:30.989
because he knows there's nothing there and it's

00:42:30.989 --> 00:42:33.929
just an interception waiting to happen. So I

00:42:33.929 --> 00:42:36.869
need consistency and I need viability in the

00:42:36.869 --> 00:42:39.590
offense before I'm gonna believe in him. And

00:42:39.590 --> 00:42:41.829
in my stare this week, I won't, you know, I'll

00:42:41.829 --> 00:42:44.349
give it a chance, right? Anything, anybody, I'd

00:42:44.349 --> 00:42:47.489
much rather he not be a bust. No, I mean, true.

00:42:47.710 --> 00:42:49.769
I mean, it makes no sense to root against his

00:42:49.769 --> 00:42:52.409
success. No, I feel you on that. I think your

00:42:52.409 --> 00:42:55.070
key on Coleman is my Gabe Davis. You know what

00:42:55.070 --> 00:42:59.230
I mean? And like that is that is an opportune

00:42:59.230 --> 00:43:00.929
talking point because while I don't think he's

00:43:00.929 --> 00:43:03.369
going to play in this game, it seems like Gabe

00:43:03.369 --> 00:43:05.269
Davis at some point is going to suit up for the

00:43:05.269 --> 00:43:08.329
squad and play meaningful reps. And that is going

00:43:08.329 --> 00:43:11.170
to be a direct competition. I feel like with

00:43:11.170 --> 00:43:13.789
Keon Coleman because they. They do a lot of the

00:43:13.789 --> 00:43:16.829
same stuff, man. And as long as Josh Palmer comes

00:43:16.829 --> 00:43:20.210
back healthy, the Bills value what they perceive

00:43:20.210 --> 00:43:22.409
to be his ability to separate downfield, though

00:43:22.409 --> 00:43:24.909
we have not yet really seen that come to fruition.

00:43:25.949 --> 00:43:29.530
So to me, Gabe Davis is a direct threat to Keon

00:43:29.530 --> 00:43:32.610
Coleman and his snap share right now. But dude,

00:43:32.809 --> 00:43:34.989
the numbers with Gabe are the numbers with Gabe.

00:43:34.989 --> 00:43:38.130
Listen, he's not a slouch. He's got, he's got

00:43:38.130 --> 00:43:43.250
close to, if not. over or at, I think 30 touchdowns

00:43:43.250 --> 00:43:45.670
as a pass catcher in this league. That's not

00:43:45.670 --> 00:43:52.030
nothing. But Josh's interception rate and his

00:43:52.030 --> 00:43:55.989
passer rating both declined precipitously when

00:43:55.989 --> 00:43:58.789
targeting Gabe Davis. I mean, we used to joke

00:43:58.789 --> 00:44:01.579
about it on the pod. Hey, Josh, stop throwing

00:44:01.579 --> 00:44:04.079
Gabe the ball. He's running a clear out route.

00:44:04.460 --> 00:44:06.780
But Josh just was so enticed by Gabe running

00:44:06.780 --> 00:44:08.780
down the field in a way that he's not by Cain

00:44:08.780 --> 00:44:11.659
Coleman. I worry that the old temptations come

00:44:11.659 --> 00:44:13.699
back even in this more mature, more professional

00:44:13.699 --> 00:44:16.320
version of Josh. And to me, we've seen the ceiling

00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:18.659
on Gabe Davis. Like, we know what he is at this

00:44:18.659 --> 00:44:21.739
point. To me... If you're going to put him in

00:44:21.739 --> 00:44:23.440
direct competition with a guy like Keon Coleman,

00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.340
you should have traded Keon Coleman because you're

00:44:25.340 --> 00:44:27.099
going to set this kid's development back to a

00:44:27.099 --> 00:44:29.380
point. You're already asking him to play left

00:44:29.380 --> 00:44:31.739
handed with the way you're using him in the ex

00:44:31.739 --> 00:44:33.840
ex receiver spot on the outs on the boundary.

00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.159
Like now you're going to take away a snapshot

00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.300
for a guy who kind of does the same thing, but

00:44:38.300 --> 00:44:40.599
as an older version of it developmentally, he

00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:42.519
may never recover from that and you should have

00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:45.300
traded him at the trade deadline. No, all fair

00:44:45.300 --> 00:44:49.079
points. And I think that, you know, it's like.

00:44:49.740 --> 00:44:52.519
Josh Allen had kicked his Gabe Davis habit and

00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.199
then they just brought him back in they did.

00:44:55.219 --> 00:44:58.059
Yeah, they did. Yeah, it's crazy. That's crazy

00:44:58.059 --> 00:45:01.199
All right We have taught we have talked about

00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:03.739
the defense a little bit against this Miami offense.

00:45:03.739 --> 00:45:08.630
I mean, I think Miami can't really run the ball

00:45:08.630 --> 00:45:13.130
in a traditional standard run game scheme, which

00:45:13.130 --> 00:45:16.969
is bizarre considering that this has been Mike

00:45:16.969 --> 00:45:19.869
McDaniel's bag, you know, as an offensive play

00:45:19.869 --> 00:45:22.110
caller over the course of his career. But what

00:45:22.110 --> 00:45:25.170
I will say is he has done a really good job and

00:45:25.170 --> 00:45:29.469
a really underrated job in getting Devon Achan

00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:33.139
open out of 21 personnel. Like when he throws

00:45:33.139 --> 00:45:36.940
out HN and Gordon out there, HN's rushing efficiency

00:45:36.940 --> 00:45:39.760
goes up, his overall yardage and production go

00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:42.480
up, and he becomes a really big threat out of

00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.119
the backfield to catch passes. I think if you're

00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.619
the Buffalo Bills game script wise, you want

00:45:47.619 --> 00:45:49.800
to get out to an early lead because this Miami

00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.280
team feels like what they feel like one that

00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:53.900
it's like the veterans that are still on the

00:45:53.900 --> 00:45:56.889
team are going to be Ready for Cancun here in

00:45:56.889 --> 00:45:59.170
the next couple of weeks and if you go up 14

00:45:59.170 --> 00:46:02.610
-3 14 nothing early in the game They could start

00:46:02.610 --> 00:46:04.590
fantasizing about what their offseason is gonna

00:46:04.590 --> 00:46:08.070
look like But if you let them offensively stick

00:46:08.070 --> 00:46:11.610
around at home you let a Chan get going to me

00:46:11.610 --> 00:46:13.510
He's like the key that drives this whole thing

00:46:13.510 --> 00:46:15.829
I think this could be like a New Orleans Saints

00:46:15.829 --> 00:46:18.210
type game for the bills right depending on game

00:46:18.210 --> 00:46:21.699
scripts Sure, yeah, I know I think it's a division

00:46:21.699 --> 00:46:23.980
game There's always risk, you know involved in

00:46:23.980 --> 00:46:26.780
division games the Dolphins have even at times

00:46:26.780 --> 00:46:28.679
when they look like they're an absolute dumpster

00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.519
fire in the past couple of seasons Have had have

00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.260
had games where they played the bills really

00:46:33.260 --> 00:46:35.980
hard, especially at home And so I don't think

00:46:35.980 --> 00:46:37.940
I don't think the bills will sleep on this and

00:46:37.940 --> 00:46:40.460
I don't think They should because there's a chance,

00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:43.099
right? I mentioned before that the defense can

00:46:43.099 --> 00:46:45.699
be a little plucky. They can have some explosive

00:46:45.699 --> 00:46:48.980
plays, but kind of in the long run, they tend

00:46:48.980 --> 00:46:50.940
to fail in terms of keeping people out of the

00:46:50.940 --> 00:46:54.000
end zone. Likewise, the offense, Jalen Waddle

00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.619
is still a threat. Devon Achan still has breakaway

00:46:56.619 --> 00:47:00.480
speed. You can't take these guys for granted.

00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:03.139
You got to show up, strap up, play with a lot

00:47:03.139 --> 00:47:07.619
of physicality, knock two down. Play the play

00:47:07.619 --> 00:47:10.219
Jalen Waddle hard as a line. Um, I'd like to

00:47:10.219 --> 00:47:12.059
see Jalen Waddle and Maxwell Harrison have a

00:47:12.059 --> 00:47:13.659
lot of reps against each other. That'll be yet

00:47:13.659 --> 00:47:16.480
another test, right? Here's a, here's a proven,

00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:18.800
you know, elite contract type wide receiver.

00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:21.760
Um, what can you do Mad Max? Uh, and can you

00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:24.800
get 75 % of the snaps? Cause it was like 25 then

00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:28.949
or 40 then 50. Can we tight treat up his his

00:47:28.949 --> 00:47:31.690
snapshot in this in this one? So that feels like

00:47:31.690 --> 00:47:33.989
the plan Yeah, that feels like the plan for him

00:47:33.989 --> 00:47:36.469
and for once my god It feels like the Bills actually

00:47:36.469 --> 00:47:38.570
have a plan for one of their draft picks with

00:47:38.570 --> 00:47:40.670
the way They're using Harrison like everything's

00:47:40.670 --> 00:47:43.650
pointing up for the kid for sure. Well Just one

00:47:43.650 --> 00:47:45.849
more note on Harrison. Yeah, do it for all of

00:47:45.849 --> 00:47:49.250
Bills mafia Who's like who was all sweating Maxwell

00:47:49.250 --> 00:47:52.210
Harrison? Oh, here's another Kyrie alum Just

00:47:52.210 --> 00:47:54.860
watch Maxwell Harrison play this season and as

00:47:54.860 --> 00:47:59.579
he gets more responsibility, you'll better understand

00:47:59.579 --> 00:48:04.610
why Kyriellum was Kyriellum, right? We were very

00:48:04.610 --> 00:48:07.289
wrong about clamoring for Kyre to play. We should

00:48:07.289 --> 00:48:10.469
probably take that L right now. Right. Yes. All

00:48:10.469 --> 00:48:12.329
right. Speaking of L's, we are hoping the Bills

00:48:12.329 --> 00:48:14.869
deliver one to the Dolphins, JJ. Let's do prediction

00:48:14.869 --> 00:48:17.010
sure to go wrong here. Absolutely. All right.

00:48:17.070 --> 00:48:19.309
So the spread on this game is nine and a half

00:48:19.309 --> 00:48:21.610
in favor of the Bills. You know how much I love

00:48:21.610 --> 00:48:24.789
a big Bill spread. Thank you, Vegas, for making

00:48:24.789 --> 00:48:28.340
this one sweaty for me. Over under 50 and a half

00:48:28.340 --> 00:48:30.199
points right here. The bill's the clear favorites

00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:33.800
to win, JJ. Point differential wise, the Buffalo

00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:35.840
Bills are tied for fifth in the league with the

00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.219
aforementioned New England Patriots, while the

00:48:39.219 --> 00:48:42.639
Dolphins are 28th at minus 63 points. They are

00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:46.659
underwater in point differential. JJ, what's

00:48:46.659 --> 00:48:50.820
your score prediction? I think that the Buffalo

00:48:50.820 --> 00:48:58.159
Bills are going to win 35 to 17. All right, so

00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:00.539
you are going with the bills covering a very

00:49:00.539 --> 00:49:03.239
large spread and if my math is correct which

00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:07.800
it never is there you're taking the over I Am

00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:09.860
taking over because it'd be 52 points. Yep. Yep

00:49:10.030 --> 00:49:11.610
All right, correct. All right, my math was right

00:49:11.610 --> 00:49:14.829
on that one. Yeah. Damn you, man. You know what

00:49:14.829 --> 00:49:16.949
I got to do? I'm going to pick the Dolphins to

00:49:16.949 --> 00:49:19.289
win because we are on a hot streak with me picking

00:49:19.289 --> 00:49:21.110
the... Okay. No, I'm playing. I'm going to pick

00:49:21.110 --> 00:49:22.829
those. Yeah, I'm going to pick the best. I don't

00:49:22.829 --> 00:49:24.469
know a world where that could... I mean, it could

00:49:24.469 --> 00:49:26.190
happen, right? At least any given Sunday, we've

00:49:26.190 --> 00:49:29.480
seen crazy. We've seen, listen, the Dolphins

00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.300
beat the Falcons who laid out the bills in prime

00:49:32.300 --> 00:49:34.380
time. There's no transitive property in NFL.

00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:38.420
And then the Panthers destroyed the Falcons who

00:49:38.420 --> 00:49:41.420
then we destroyed, right? So are the Dolphins

00:49:41.420 --> 00:49:44.920
the best team in the AFC? Like by that math,

00:49:45.019 --> 00:49:46.460
you know what I mean? But no, I'm going to go

00:49:46.460 --> 00:49:48.659
with the bills. I'm going to take the bills.

00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.179
This doesn't feel like a game. where you're going

00:49:52.179 --> 00:49:54.699
to need Josh Allen to chuck the ball 30 times,

00:49:54.699 --> 00:49:56.260
even though he could probably make some hay if

00:49:56.260 --> 00:49:59.460
he did. Even without James Cook, I think you're

00:49:59.460 --> 00:50:02.280
going to see double -digit carries for both Ty

00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.260
Johnson and Ray Davis in this game. I think you're

00:50:05.260 --> 00:50:08.679
going to get a big dose of Dalton Kincaid. I

00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:10.840
would go back to being infuriated with this offense

00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:15.559
if we didn't. So I'm going to go Bills 28 and

00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:18.659
Dolphins 20 at this point. So I'm going to take

00:50:18.659 --> 00:50:21.710
the under on the points. Not because I'm not

00:50:21.710 --> 00:50:23.849
confident that the Bills can't put them up. I

00:50:23.849 --> 00:50:26.329
just this version of the Dolphins offense again

00:50:26.329 --> 00:50:29.070
If they don't get going early, like they don't

00:50:29.070 --> 00:50:31.570
get a jump start the first couple of drives They

00:50:31.570 --> 00:50:34.289
never tend to get off the runway so and and I

00:50:34.289 --> 00:50:37.570
could also see the Bills getting up 28 to 13

00:50:37.570 --> 00:50:41.090
in the like the late third and then sort of put

00:50:41.090 --> 00:50:42.929
subbing some people in you know, like you know

00:50:42.929 --> 00:50:45.630
a garbage time touchdown gets them within eight

00:50:45.630 --> 00:50:47.809
Yeah, I could see that too. Yeah. Yeah, so that's

00:50:47.809 --> 00:50:52.349
fair. All right prop I just have one prop. It's

00:50:52.349 --> 00:50:59.050
been a bit, it's been a minute. A touchdown for

00:50:59.050 --> 00:51:02.010
over under half touchdown Keon Coleman, to your

00:51:02.010 --> 00:51:05.329
point earlier. Oh, you have a Keon Coleman prop.

00:51:06.130 --> 00:51:08.630
I'm going to say, you're like, yeah, because

00:51:08.630 --> 00:51:12.920
you know. Because I love him. So good. I'm gonna

00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.400
you know what that's gonna be a hell of an apology

00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:17.199
card You're gonna write if this kid ends up sticking

00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.559
after the after next season. Yeah You're like,

00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.480
yeah, it's not gonna happen. I'm gonna I'm gonna

00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:26.059
say I'm gonna say over I listen I I got I got

00:51:26.059 --> 00:51:29.219
faith in Keon man. I just think that physical

00:51:29.219 --> 00:51:32.219
profile. Does he have great straight line speed?

00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:35.980
Absolutely, not right. Is he good at separating?

00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.800
Totally not. Does he have great hands? Not really.

00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:41.780
He's not His catch rate is improved. He's not

00:51:41.780 --> 00:51:45.179
good. He's not good at separating on vertical

00:51:45.179 --> 00:51:49.820
routes. Right. I, he's got the ability to create

00:51:49.820 --> 00:51:53.170
a little bit of a Separation is not the right

00:51:53.170 --> 00:51:55.269
word to talk about with Keon. Like, listen, he

00:51:55.269 --> 00:51:57.809
can't do it, right? But when he is locked in

00:51:57.809 --> 00:52:00.530
on the boundary, he's not even able to really

00:52:00.530 --> 00:52:02.989
provide a passing lane or passing window for

00:52:02.989 --> 00:52:06.269
Josh to get the ball to. But you put his big

00:52:06.269 --> 00:52:08.550
-bodied target across the middle of the field,

00:52:08.809 --> 00:52:11.670
where he can box out an opposing DB, even though

00:52:11.670 --> 00:52:13.329
he hasn't really been successful at doing that,

00:52:13.650 --> 00:52:15.590
right? But you put him on a couple of in -breaking

00:52:15.590 --> 00:52:18.070
routes, where at least he can create a window

00:52:18.070 --> 00:52:21.539
in front of a trailing opposing DB. and that

00:52:21.539 --> 00:52:23.780
gives him a much better chance, and he can create

00:52:23.780 --> 00:52:25.599
some good passing lanes for Josh in that way.

00:52:25.860 --> 00:52:29.239
So he is a dude that still brings value to me

00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:32.119
in this game, particularly with Josh Palmer potentially

00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:35.360
not playing. So I'm going to take the over. I'm

00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:37.440
going to say two touchdowns for Keon Coleman

00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:41.820
in this game. And I am even willing to put a

00:52:41.820 --> 00:52:43.820
bottle of Buffalo Trace on the line with us that

00:52:43.820 --> 00:52:47.199
I will send you should Keon not score two TDs.

00:52:47.659 --> 00:52:50.360
Wait, is he on the injury report? No, he's not.

00:52:50.659 --> 00:52:52.880
No, he's clean. He's clean. All right, I'll take

00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.960
that. I'll take that. And in the event that he

00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:00.480
gets two or more touchdowns, I will, I'm up to

00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.619
like, I think that would be my third bottle I

00:53:02.619 --> 00:53:07.019
owe you. Well, you owe me two bottles and a wood

00:53:07.019 --> 00:53:09.400
chopping sword, which I'm still waiting for.

00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:12.380
Dude, I totally forgot about the wood chopping

00:53:12.380 --> 00:53:14.739
sword, but you are right. Yeah. Yeah, that's

00:53:14.739 --> 00:53:16.869
right. Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. I'm just

00:53:16.869 --> 00:53:18.869
going to keep this. Well, what I'm going to do

00:53:18.869 --> 00:53:21.369
is I want to work with my legal team to add this

00:53:21.369 --> 00:53:24.309
to my to my last will and testament. And that's

00:53:24.309 --> 00:53:27.269
going to confuse the hell out of my family in

00:53:27.269 --> 00:53:30.269
40 years or whenever I hope to make it going

00:53:30.269 --> 00:53:31.690
to be really hilarious. You're going to owe me

00:53:31.690 --> 00:53:33.409
a suit of armor by the end of this thing. It's

00:53:33.409 --> 00:53:35.989
going to be great. Yeah. All right. Do I have

00:53:35.989 --> 00:53:39.690
a prop? I do have a prop for you. This is going

00:53:39.690 --> 00:53:44.929
to be Buffalo Bill's defense. Maxwell Harris.

00:53:45.260 --> 00:53:50.159
Mm -hmm over under Point five interceptions in

00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:51.900
this game. Does he keep the interception streak

00:53:51.900 --> 00:53:56.159
alive? Oh I love I love him. I think he keeps

00:53:56.159 --> 00:53:58.159
his coverage streak alive. I'm gonna say under

00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:00.500
because Interceptions are pretty hard to come

00:54:00.500 --> 00:54:02.579
by you're almost always an all -pro if you can

00:54:02.579 --> 00:54:05.320
get more than six, you know, like I play in Tua

00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:07.139
I'm just gonna throw that out there the league

00:54:07.139 --> 00:54:09.760
or interceptions. Oh, yeah, I know he's playing

00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.400
Tua but also it's the kind of thing where again

00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:15.070
the Dolphins play a little bit more careful against

00:54:15.070 --> 00:54:17.190
the bills. They know how bad that they can get

00:54:17.190 --> 00:54:20.650
rolled up on if they start turning it over. So

00:54:20.650 --> 00:54:24.030
I'm going to take the under, but that's with,

00:54:24.030 --> 00:54:26.630
you know, I hope I'm wrong, right? Yeah, no,

00:54:26.670 --> 00:54:28.849
without a doubt. I am. I'm going to take the

00:54:28.849 --> 00:54:32.150
over. I just love what I'm seeing from him. Wattle.

00:54:32.429 --> 00:54:34.949
Listen, they use Wattle more creatively than

00:54:34.949 --> 00:54:39.989
that. in Miami than the Chiefs use Worthy. Worthy,

00:54:40.030 --> 00:54:41.969
I mean, Waddle is just a better catcher overall

00:54:41.969 --> 00:54:44.010
of the football, right? Like Waddle is just a

00:54:44.010 --> 00:54:48.409
better wide receiver in general. But assuming,

00:54:48.710 --> 00:54:53.170
assuming that Benford is healthy and And they're

00:54:53.170 --> 00:54:55.050
going to have him, which they have been doing,

00:54:55.289 --> 00:54:57.409
trail opposing team's number one wide receivers.

00:54:57.909 --> 00:54:59.510
I actually think Harrison's going to get the

00:54:59.510 --> 00:55:01.710
ability against some secondary targets to maybe

00:55:01.710 --> 00:55:04.190
have one. So we'll see how that goes. Yeah. And

00:55:04.190 --> 00:55:06.349
you're not wrong, even if they have him locked

00:55:06.349 --> 00:55:10.489
down or try to lock down Jalen Waddle. Tua has

00:55:10.489 --> 00:55:12.949
been just bad because he doesn't have Tyree Hill

00:55:12.949 --> 00:55:15.110
right now. He's just been throwing balls up into

00:55:15.110 --> 00:55:18.030
triple coverage to Jalen Waddle. And we all know

00:55:18.030 --> 00:55:19.849
the kind of velocity he can put on those balls.

00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.860
That might be the path to a Mad Max interception.

00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:30.159
We can end on this note. We've talked about the

00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.980
anticipatory thrower that he is. Tua's not throwing

00:55:32.980 --> 00:55:35.940
to guys. He's throwing to grass, and he's hoping

00:55:35.940 --> 00:55:38.760
a guy shows up there. So if you know the grass

00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:41.940
Tua's going to, just be there before his preferred

00:55:41.940 --> 00:55:43.460
target, and you're going to have a pick every

00:55:43.460 --> 00:55:47.250
time. Yeah, and I think if what we believe about

00:55:47.250 --> 00:55:49.570
Maxwell Harrison's preparation is true, he'll

00:55:49.570 --> 00:55:51.909
know where the grass is. Yes, that's what I'm

00:55:51.909 --> 00:55:54.010
hoping. And that is a perfect note to end it

00:55:54.010 --> 00:55:56.250
on, sir. All right, Bills Mafia. Hope you're

00:55:56.250 --> 00:55:58.449
going to enjoy what we believe will be a Buffalo

00:55:58.449 --> 00:56:00.670
Bills win this Sunday. For all of you listening

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