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Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread Podcast. JJ

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and Dan here to recap the matchup. The Bills

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absolutely dominated the Carolina Panthers in

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a rushing attack splendor down in Carolina and

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now are facing the much -hated on a hot streak

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heater chiefs this Sunday in Buffalo, 425 p .m.

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Dan, where's the anxiety level at right now?

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The anxiety level out of a 10 JJ is probably

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at like a seven. Listen, this one feels weird

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for a couple of reasons. One, the bills are coming

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off of a blowout win, which you just very eloquently

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stated. And yet it still feels like there are

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a lot of looming questions about this defense,

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i .e. Is this new look Bill's defense that we

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saw finally be able to roll out after the bye

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week? Is it going to be suitable enough to stand

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up against a revamped, revitalized Kansas City

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attack? And I think a lot of Bill's mafia, myself

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included, have our doubts. Two. Neither of these

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teams are like these teams are meeting at a time

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where they're both vying for Divisional placement

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not the high -level conference placement that

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we're used to seeing them compete for right now

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neither team is sitting in first and their respective

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divisions and they are looking up at a couple

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of young upstart teams respectively and Really?

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This has become a must -win game for both teams

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if they want to stay alive divisionally forget

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for conference placement and all that type of

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stuff. So it different stakes feels a little

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bit weird as a result of that. But JJ nonetheless,

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it's Bill's football on a Sunday, I'm ready to

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talk it, I'm ready to watch it and ready to love

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it. Awesome. Love that. Now let's start where

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we left off last time with our prediction sure

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to go wrong in this Carolina Panthers game. So

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right on everything. We hit a lot of things.

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So we were way off. Way off. It was terrible.

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Way off on our score predictions. We both thought

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that the Panthers would score 21 points and the

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Bills wouldn't get past 30. Of course, the final

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score was 40 to nine, which hit the over. I think

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we both took the under. Yeah. And we both took

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the over, but we took the over in a competitive

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game with a one score win. So I thought for sure

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I took the under. Oh, yeah. OK. You did. You

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did take the under by one point. Yep. You had

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a 45 as your total. So I would took the over

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by two points. But neither of us thought it was

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going to be over by three points, 40 to nine.

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Kind of blowout with Josh Allen, James Cook and

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other starters wearing baseball caps in the fourth

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quarter with 12 minutes to go. And then Hoyt

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over under half sack. I had hit the over. How

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wrong was I about that one? I mean, I just. Oh,

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well, yeah, we can start there. Let's start with

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the defense because our other prediction was

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was Maxwell Hairston over under 25 percent snaps.

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He did 44 percent of the snaps. So we both took

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the under and we're both wrong. We thought he

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would be a healthy scratch. We did. Yeah. Like

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I was so pleasantly surprised with the Buffalo

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Bills decision to play him. But yeah, man, let's

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start with the defensive side of the ball because

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that was the that has been the long standing

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issue for this Buffalo Bills team this season.

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Offensive play calling aside, which we have all

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gone over. It's been the defense has been the

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big question. So, JJ, let's start there. Why

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don't you run through some of your highlights?

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Tell us what you saw. Tell us what you liked

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and then what you think might actually be transferable

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to this KC game. Well, I think that on defense,

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Michael Hoyt does, he sets the defense in a completely

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different gear. He's like a twice as energetic

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version of Joey Bosa when it comes to providing

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juice to the defense. And he provided it to two

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levels, both I think the linebacker play and

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the frontline defensive line play looked. better

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every snap he was in there. And they did move

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him around. He had his hand in the dirt as an

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edge rusher. He was inside as a defensive tackle

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for a number of snaps. And he just looked pretty

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dominant. I mean, for somebody who's 260 pounds,

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he was able to bull rush 300 plus pound guards

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that are, and as we talked about in the preview,

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the Panthers aren't, they're not a slouch of

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an offensive line. They're a decent offensive

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line. They came into that game as one of the

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hottest rushing offenses in the league. The bill

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shut down the rushing. rushing attack in a lot

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of ways. And Hoyt was a big part of that. Sealing

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the edge. He looked awesome. I mean, he was causing

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he had a strip sack. He was causing problems

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all day long, almost no matter where they lined

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him up. And I think that his play amplified and

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energized a lot of the other frontline defenders

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play in a way that it helped keep the linebackers

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clean. And the linebackers in this one, Dan,

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were Shaq Thompson and Dorian Williams. So neither

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of the two starting, you know, pre -season if

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we would have said, hey, LB's three and four

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are going to play most of the snaps for the Bills

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in a game, we would have been a little bit worried.

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I would have been worried, right? Because we

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saw that last year in the Bills two game losing

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streak when we saw a lot of absence in the linebacking

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crew. And Dorian Williams and at that time Bale

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and Specter were getting starts. Shaq Thompson

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is a revelation. We've already talked about him.

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He is the best linebacker on this team. He deserves

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to continue to start over anybody in that middle.

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Oh, 100%. And I mean, this is now an open question,

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too, as we get into the chief's chat and the

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chief's talk. Terrell Bernard, Matt Milano have

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both been full participants. But based on what

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we saw in that Carolina game and what we saw

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at the tail end of that Atlanta game, too, there

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is a case for mixing and matching your personnel

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at linebacker situationally. Shaq Thompson brings

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that veteran savvy that we talked about, but

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Dorian Williams man just looks so much more comfortable

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playing next to him. And now also with the understanding

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that McDermott is doing a lot of the play calling

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now too. Um, which we can get into as we get

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into the chiefs preview, uh, more formally, uh,

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it just felt like Williams was always in a better

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position. He was always in the right position.

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Same thing with these safeties too. And the safety

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rotation with Poyer coming in on more obvious

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running downs, the athleticism of Hancock coming

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in on more, um, more passing friendly downs.

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I mean, dude, just when you talk about Hoyt being

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out there. Maxwell, Harrison, Jordan Hancock,

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then Dorian Williams being in the right position,

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Cole Bishop, finding his run fits in the box

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as well, just to see those five guys out there

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at the same time in unison on a lot of these

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run plays and a lot of these run fits, just to

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see that level of athleticism on the field and

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level of speed is something we've been sorely

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missing from this bill's defense all year. But

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to your point, it started with the two guys right

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in the middle of the spine. Williams finding

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his fits and his comfort zone. Shaq Thompson

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doing what he needed to do as the veteran leader

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there. It really started with those two guys

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as it typically emanates out of in a McDermott

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defense. To me, JJ, I do think there's got to

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be some question as to whether or not Bernard

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or Milano should be the starters moving forward.

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Well, and I think in a three linebacker set,

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I think Shaq Thompson, Dorian Williams and Bernard

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should be on the field. And I think that in certain

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situations, if it's long and late, you may take

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Shaq Thompson, well, or you may take Dorian Williams

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off the field and put Shaq Thompson, Terrell

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Bernard and Matt Milano in for the best three

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coverage players that you have at Linebacker.

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If you don't, if for some reason you don't trust

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Taron Johnson in the slot, right? Like if you're

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going to be in base personnel in a long and late

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down, which they haven't been, they've been leaning

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more towards dime looks and bringing in extra

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DBs. But really, that's the only time I could

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see Dorian Williams sitting down. Like any other

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time he should be on the field, I think. And

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especially because of, as you mentioned, the

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change in play calling. And then the big problem

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with the Buffalo Bills defensive line, especially

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with these injuries, is they have less and less

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big body stuffer types and more and more penetration

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style defensive tackles, which is the absolute

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kryptonite to Terrell Bernard's style of play.

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He is small, undersized. fast and athletic, but

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he cannot be taught. You know, if a guard gets

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on him, he's toast. There's nothing happened

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in that play. Right. If a guard or a center,

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any type of interior offensive lineman climbs

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to the second level and meets Bernard, he cannot

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find his fit. He cannot get off of a block against

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a 320 pound offensive lineman. You just can't.

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It's not what his game is suited for. Absolutely.

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Yeah. And I think that, you know, you made some

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observations via text during the game that Hairston

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had recovery speed. He was fearless. He was fearless

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of playing the jam because he knew that if somebody

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ended up breaking out against him, he could catch

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up. He got he was caught up in a scrape pick

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play and close the distance. And it was a. errant

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ball errant throw but I think even if the ball

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would have made it there he would have had a

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chance to break up the pass even though he was

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two or three yards behind at one point in the

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play his catch -up speed is amazing he's sticky

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in coverage I'm so excited to see him I mean

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44 percent of the snaps in the first week he's

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not even on the injury report is limited in any

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way this week so hopefully the rook has a nice

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healthy season from here on out and just every

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week we get to see more and more of him And let's,

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and let's give our flowers to this Bill's coaching

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staff. Cause I think you and I were both of the

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mindset that absolutely not. They're going to

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Cole Bishop this kid. They're going to bring

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him back so slow to the point it might be detrimental

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to his development. No, they rolled him right

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back out there. They wanted him to get some real

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life game reps. And, and most importantly to

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me, JJ, and we've talked about this ad nauseam,

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how these, how these coaches tend to feel like

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they are scheme over skill. A lot of times they

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put. Maxwell Harrison in a position where his

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skill set would immediately find him some early

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confidence and early success. They didn't ask

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him to play a lot of this match zone nonsense

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that they've been rolling out there. He was out

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there almost exclusively for man reps, and he

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was given an assignment to stick to, and he was

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able to do it successfully on almost every turn.

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He wasn't targeted once officially in the box

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score. Yeah, and his other piece that he came

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up and contributed... quite a lot in run fits,

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even if it wasn't making the tack. He made that

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one incredible solo tackle on the edge. Jimmy

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Horn Jr. Yeah. But then he also was able to affect

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the run game in the way that you want a cornerback

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to affect it. String it out, make the runner

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stop his feet, slow his feet, get your help there

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to help you take him down and not have a cutback

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lane. He did everything we want him to do. And

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what's surprising is you mentioned his man reps

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being his most successful. The thing that's most

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exciting about that to me is his college tape

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was largely him in zone. Yep. And they essentially

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looked at that tape, saw the skill set and said,

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we can put him man up on an NFL caliber receiver

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and we think he'll be able to hang. And with

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just a one game, half the game reps sample size

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against some pretty solid, you know, receivers,

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he did a nice job. A hundred percent. Definitely

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a bright spot. First, first NFL, you know, start.

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to have that level of success. Also tells me

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a little bit about, we always dog on this coaching

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staff for like slow playing it with rookies.

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I think they play the rookie as fast as their

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skills let them. You know what I mean? Like Terrell

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Bernard, slow play. Cole Bishop, slow play. Josh

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Allen, they slow played it. Players that we've

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seen develop over time, they've tried to keep

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out of the lineup as long as they could. But

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Tredavious was in right away. Day one starter.

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Tremaine Edmonds, too. Tremaine Edmonds, Christian

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Benford, right? Like these players, if the player

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brings it, I think the coaching staff is willing

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to put them in. So they may be cautious with

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how much they're going to put on somebody's plate

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if they don't believe they're ready. But when

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they're ready, they send them. Yeah, without

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a doubt. And it was great to see them do with

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Harrison because you, me, all of Bill's Mafia,

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all of Buffalo Bill's media, no one thought Harrison

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was going to play in this game. And it also says

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something to all those people who are like, oh

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no, here's Maxwell Hairston, another speedy cornerback

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for the Bills to ruin, right? No, Kyriellum was

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the problem, everybody. He couldn't get on the

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field because he wasn't good. Yep. Yep. And it

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is time for us to own that, right? We're those

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guys that you're talking about. So yeah, man,

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defensive side of the ball, very impressive.

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We would be remiss, though, if we didn't talk

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about one of the big negative of the day, which

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is the loss of that Oliver, right? JJ, it is

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hard to quantify because Oliver, it seems, since

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signing that extension has gotten progressively

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better year after year after year into this contract.

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He was on pace this season and granted a small

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sample to have his best most eruptive year as

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a Buffalo Bill, and it is tragically cut short

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due to a torn bicep. Oliver is out on Instagram.

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He is posting that he's going to be back. He's

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going to be back in time for the playoffs and

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time to play for it all, as he says, with a little

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emoji of a ring. Love that. Love that for us,

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but we love that. We love the Hopium hit on that

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one. But the reality is the Buffalo Bill's also

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with TJ Sanders currently out too. Despite the

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reinforcement of Larry Ogunjobi coming back,

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they find themselves short in the defensive tackle

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rotation. Jordan Phillips elevated from the practice

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squad, signed to the 53 -man roster, but it begs

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the question, JJ, are the Bills going to go turn

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their focus at the trade deadline to a free agent

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acquisition or a trade target like a Kaleus Campbell?

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We always have these conversations and my answer

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is always super lame because I'm like, if the

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price is right, you know, like that's the reality.

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Like that's, that's just it is they're going

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to, you know, I trust in this regard, I trust

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Brandon being to look at the market, see what's

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available. And if there's something that he thinks

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he can upgrade for a player on a rental contract,

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who's going to be better than, than the draft

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position of that pick that they're going to sacrifice.

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I think they make a move. I'm worried that they

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might focus on getting a wide receiver like the

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MRI Cooper deal. Um, more because I don't think

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that Amari ever was worth a third rounder and

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they might get taken. Um, Steve Smith, senior,

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uh, formerly of the Carolina Panthers said on

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his podcast or YouTube channel in which he was,

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uh, it was his YouTube special 20 minutes on

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why Keon Coleman is a bust in the NFL with all

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of his stat breakdowns and film watching, um,

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that he very lazily does, and he said, but I

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love this. I'm sharing the Steve Smith senior

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thing because it's worthwhile. He said that the

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Buffalo Bills pick up wide receivers like somebody

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going to the grocery store hungry. They make

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poor choices because they want it so bad. They're

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not thinking of the bigger plan, the better picture,

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what's worth it, what's, you know, what their

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budget is. They're going to the store hungry.

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And that I think is a great way to summarize

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the MRE Cooper trade. It's a great way to summarize

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almost anything that they end up doing if they

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do anything before Tuesday at the trade deadline

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for our wide receiver this year. I agree. And

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I think, you know, going back to the ad Oliver

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piece, we want them to avoid that on the defensive

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tackle area as well, because this is Like the

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wide receiver room, another area where they've

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already sunk a ton of draft capital, a lot of

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resources into it. I think ultimately the question

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of do you change your sites to a defensive tackle

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target as much as I would love to, and I'm going

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to say his name again. Um, go pick up class Campbell.

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Cause I think the contract is manageable at this

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point in the season. It's a one year rental and

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it's not going to cost you a lot from Arizona.

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And despite the age, he is endlessly almost scientifically

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and possibly productive at that position still,

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but same thing. I think for me, a lot of this

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depends on what is the TJ Sanders prognosis,

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because if you're going to get him back at some

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point, then I think you roll with roll with who

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got you here and you give Sanders a chance to

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really step up and show out in the absence of

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Ed Oliver. Well, and I think, too, the fact that

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Ed Oliver was injured and one day later was having

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surgery tells me that the. Having, you know,

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sort of a sports injury repair surgery myself,

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it was kind of amazing just a couple of two,

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three days after my surgery, what my surgeon

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was able to tell me about my recovery window

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and timeline, right? Like, because they see it

00:16:14.539 --> 00:16:16.519
all, right? They're in there literally on the

00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:18.539
ligaments, on the joints, on the muscle, the

00:16:18.539 --> 00:16:20.779
tendons, everything. They see everything inside.

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So as they close you up, they're like, OK, I've

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seen this one before, and I'm sure that Ed Oliver

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is going to like the best bicep repair person

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in the universe. that money can buy and then

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that doctor's gonna be able to come out and say,

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all right, this is what the damn, when I was

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in there literally looking at how you're put

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together, this is what I saw and this is what

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I anticipate it looks like. So that was a good

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sign that they went so fast for the surgical

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option because it does indicate to me that maybe

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the window is open for him to return during playoffs.

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That would be great. I mean, that would be great

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for us for sure. All right, JJ, let's switch

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quickly to the offensive side of the ball where

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the domination continued for the Buffalo Bills

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against Carolina in the form of the run game.

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I mean, a lot of the discourse after the game

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was about how the passing offense still looks

00:17:05.369 --> 00:17:07.809
off. And so a lot of the bi -week discourse about

00:17:07.809 --> 00:17:10.670
training for a wide receiver continued, but man.

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I mean, Joe Brady, Joe Brady can scheme a run

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game. The Reggie, the Reggie Gilliam Gilliam

00:17:17.259 --> 00:17:19.960
experience, right? The way he was used to seal

00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:24.119
edges, Jackson Hawes in motion. That man is terrifying

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when he gets ahead of steam. And then Conor McGovern,

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to me, played his best individual game of the

00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:31.579
season. His ability, again, against a really

00:17:31.579 --> 00:17:34.420
good defensive interior and a really well coached

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defense. His ability to find holes and climb

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to the second level to keep James Cook clean.

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from that linebacker unit. Absolutely great stuff.

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Obviously well practiced, obviously well coached,

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but man, the movement of that run scheme, it

00:17:49.420 --> 00:17:52.599
was almost like poetry in motion. Yeah, I mean,

00:17:52.779 --> 00:17:56.019
A'Shawn Robinson, you know, DJ Wanham, there's

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some guys on that defensive line. Derrick Brown

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was basically ineffective. He was like the best

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player on that defensive line. And he was, he

00:18:05.140 --> 00:18:08.160
was, he had a half, like a tat one assist of

00:18:08.220 --> 00:18:12.059
assisted tackle. They completely erased him because

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they basically, I mean, yes, Conor McGovern was

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climbing to the second level, but he's climbing

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to the second level because he didn't have a

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very, he didn't have a duo blocking assignment

00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:21.779
in the center of the line. Everything was sweeping

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out to the edges. And so that's easy to seal

00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:29.240
when you're not trying to clear the clutter of

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the middle of the field. Uh, and they, yeah,

00:18:31.660 --> 00:18:34.519
they just hit that sweep over and over. And then

00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:36.759
just when the Carolina Panthers started overloading

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to the sweep, they came back and hit the, um,

00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:43.420
inside zone. That was the blue wide open for

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46 or whatever it is. 64 yards, something like

00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:50.140
that. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's, it's, this is what,

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I mean, anybody who watches football casually

00:18:53.180 --> 00:18:56.750
that. All that tape, the entire Carolina Panthers

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game is like a clinic on how you want to design

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a run scheme against an opponent's weaknesses

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and then build off of it so that they never get

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comfortable. They never are able to anticipate

00:19:09.509 --> 00:19:13.390
your next move. The problem is, this is the problem,

00:19:14.289 --> 00:19:17.150
is that the Bills can do this. as long as they

00:19:17.150 --> 00:19:19.490
don't have the procedural errors, pre -snap penalties,

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holding, the stuff that puts them in a position

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where it's not the smartest choice to run, second

00:19:25.829 --> 00:19:29.609
and 20, third and 17, right? Like when they can

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stay in phase and ahead of the sticks by getting

00:19:33.289 --> 00:19:36.029
at least four yards per play, they could do this.

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They can do this all day. That line is so built

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for this. They're great pass protectors too,

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as we know from you know, Josh is historically

00:19:46.170 --> 00:19:49.750
low sex last year, but they are exceptional run

00:19:49.750 --> 00:19:52.250
blockers, especially when you add in, as you

00:19:52.250 --> 00:19:55.190
mentioned, Reggie Gilliam, Jackson Hawes, even

00:19:55.190 --> 00:19:57.710
Keon Coleman had some good blocking steps. But

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he was a terrible receiver in this game. It just

00:20:01.250 --> 00:20:05.529
sucks. Again, I'm not ready to be out on camera

00:20:05.529 --> 00:20:08.670
yet. And I don't want to skew too negative because

00:20:08.670 --> 00:20:11.190
this was overall a really good offensive performance.

00:20:11.190 --> 00:20:13.849
40 to 9. I don't want to be somebody who complains.

00:20:14.109 --> 00:20:15.890
It's like don't look a gift horse in the mouth,

00:20:16.069 --> 00:20:18.750
right? Like this is a good win. They needed it.

00:20:19.230 --> 00:20:22.690
And this is how they have been telegraphing to

00:20:22.690 --> 00:20:25.819
Bill's Mafia. how they are going to beat a team

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like Kansas City, who they've been aiming to

00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:30.259
beat for forever. They are going to have the

00:20:30.259 --> 00:20:32.539
opportunity on Sunday, like they have in their

00:20:32.539 --> 00:20:35.539
previous seven matchups with Kansas City to dominate

00:20:35.539 --> 00:20:37.200
the ball at the line of scrimmage. Kansas City

00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:40.259
just cannot stop the run and has not been effective

00:20:40.259 --> 00:20:42.519
against the run for quite a few years. And what

00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:45.779
we saw on display here, it wasn't just the big.

00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:49.099
Heavy personnel that were we're so seeing Brady

00:20:49.099 --> 00:20:51.279
roll out there This is their most effective game

00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:53.759
running the ball out of 11 as well and just a

00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:57.160
just a couple of wrinkles here and there With

00:20:57.160 --> 00:20:59.799
regard to the James Cook runs out of the 11 personnel

00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:03.390
shotgun looks I mean it It looked seamless and

00:21:03.390 --> 00:21:06.150
it looked fluid, no matter what personnel package

00:21:06.150 --> 00:21:08.069
they are running out. And that's eventually the

00:21:08.069 --> 00:21:10.130
point that you want to get to with the scheme

00:21:10.130 --> 00:21:13.230
is when you do need to pass the ball, you don't

00:21:13.230 --> 00:21:15.809
want it to be as predictable percentage -wise

00:21:15.809 --> 00:21:19.109
as it had been. And as we recapped in the pregame

00:21:19.109 --> 00:21:21.269
leading up to this game, where whenever they're

00:21:21.269 --> 00:21:23.990
in 11 and they're in shotgun, 80 % of the time

00:21:23.990 --> 00:21:25.890
they're passing the ball. Whenever they're under

00:21:25.890 --> 00:21:28.910
center and they're in 12, 13, or 22, they're

00:21:28.910 --> 00:21:31.390
76 % of the time they're running the ball. They

00:21:31.390 --> 00:21:32.910
changed up and they messed around with a lot

00:21:32.910 --> 00:21:34.890
of it. Now, the passing reps were not effective

00:21:34.890 --> 00:21:37.250
really until the second half. I think you can

00:21:37.250 --> 00:21:39.750
debate about whether some of that was on personnel,

00:21:39.890 --> 00:21:42.470
some of that was more on Josh, right? And we

00:21:42.470 --> 00:21:44.789
can get into that if you want to. I think Josh

00:21:44.789 --> 00:21:47.009
is just not seeing things really clearly at this

00:21:47.009 --> 00:21:49.210
particular point because there were guys open.

00:21:49.549 --> 00:21:51.049
But at the end of the day, when you're on the

00:21:51.049 --> 00:21:54.809
ball that effectively, even just the threat of

00:21:54.809 --> 00:21:59.009
being able to be multi -layered. out of all of

00:21:59.009 --> 00:22:00.849
your personnel sets is going to be enough to

00:22:00.849 --> 00:22:03.930
keep even the best coach defense on their heels,

00:22:03.970 --> 00:22:05.690
which is where the Bills had the Panthers all

00:22:05.690 --> 00:22:08.569
that. Yeah, no, absolutely. And I think that

00:22:08.569 --> 00:22:12.130
that's that's the kind of thing that the chiefs

00:22:12.130 --> 00:22:14.210
in Spagnolo will have an answer for this rushing

00:22:14.210 --> 00:22:17.470
attack. They'll have a way to personalize. Oh,

00:22:17.470 --> 00:22:20.109
I don't know about that. No, yeah. Let's continue.

00:22:20.769 --> 00:22:23.829
Let me let me finish. They'll they'll have an

00:22:23.829 --> 00:22:25.630
answer for that. I don't think that the Bills

00:22:25.630 --> 00:22:28.900
can brute force their way. through this game.

00:22:29.619 --> 00:22:31.859
I don't believe that because I believe that the

00:22:31.859 --> 00:22:33.960
I believe here's here's what I believe. I believe

00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:37.000
the Chiefs will stuff the box with nine players

00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:40.019
and cover three receivers with two safeties only.

00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:42.400
Like that is that is the level of commitment

00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:45.460
they will put because of how poorly Josh has

00:22:45.460 --> 00:22:47.700
looked. We might find Bill's Mafia. We might

00:22:47.700 --> 00:22:51.119
finally see a deep touchdown in this game because

00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:54.039
how because of how much attention the Chiefs

00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:56.519
will pay to James Cook and shutting it down.

00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:59.240
They want to get the bills off their script as

00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:02.960
fast and as hard as possible. So I see safety

00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:06.619
and cornerbacks run specific blitzes coming at

00:23:06.619 --> 00:23:09.119
such a high level that it's that it's going to

00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:11.119
change the math in the box, because that's what

00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:13.319
Spagnolo does. He basically says, OK, what's

00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:15.700
the best thing you can do? I'm going to erase

00:23:15.700 --> 00:23:18.440
it and make you play left handed. I see that

00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:20.559
as the focus. And this that means it's going

00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:24.490
to be ripe play action. hits over the top, the

00:23:24.490 --> 00:23:26.630
deep ball should be there if that's how they

00:23:26.630 --> 00:23:29.890
choose to play the Bills. And I am not confident

00:23:29.890 --> 00:23:33.930
that the Bills will be able to hit it. I agree

00:23:33.930 --> 00:23:36.490
with you that play action is going to be an opportunity

00:23:36.490 --> 00:23:39.589
there, right? I mean, let's be real with this

00:23:39.589 --> 00:23:42.250
linebacking core with Kansas City and the issues

00:23:42.250 --> 00:23:44.529
they're having along the defensive line. Carl

00:23:44.529 --> 00:23:47.750
Loftus is having an okay year. right? But he's

00:23:47.750 --> 00:23:51.029
never been a great run stopper. Chris Jones is

00:23:51.029 --> 00:23:53.490
at the point in his career where he's flipping

00:23:53.490 --> 00:23:55.930
a switch and deciding when he wants to own a

00:23:55.930 --> 00:23:59.150
rep and then putting it putting himself in reserve

00:23:59.150 --> 00:24:01.490
for when he doesn't want to. So he hasn't been

00:24:01.490 --> 00:24:04.049
as consistently dominant. I mean, there's an

00:24:04.049 --> 00:24:06.450
argument to be made that their two best tacklers

00:24:06.450 --> 00:24:09.690
in the run game are their DBs and McDuffie and

00:24:09.690 --> 00:24:13.160
Watson, which to me, leaves a lot of inside zone

00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:15.319
stuff available to run against that interior

00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.339
defensive line, which has had a ton of issues

00:24:18.339 --> 00:24:21.680
this season. Like this is a team, JJ, that when

00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:24.380
you look at their splits, when teams run outside

00:24:24.380 --> 00:24:26.779
the tackles versus inside the tackles, running

00:24:26.779 --> 00:24:29.819
inside the tackles, success rate and EPA per

00:24:29.819 --> 00:24:32.220
play for teams attacking Kansas City in that

00:24:32.220 --> 00:24:36.200
way, it almost doubles. What you need to me to

00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:39.200
do in order to affect some of those personnel

00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:42.029
box heavy decisions, is add in the play action

00:24:42.029 --> 00:24:44.390
because the Kansas City Chiefs, small sample

00:24:44.390 --> 00:24:46.390
size, not a lot of teams run play action against

00:24:46.390 --> 00:24:49.130
them, have not been good at defending play action

00:24:49.130 --> 00:24:51.589
this season though. And if you can get Tranquil

00:24:51.589 --> 00:24:54.109
and you can get Chanal to do what you are not

00:24:54.109 --> 00:24:58.450
willing to do with guys like Spillane, guys like

00:24:58.450 --> 00:25:01.769
Kayden Ellis on Atlanta, if you can force them

00:25:01.769 --> 00:25:05.289
to freeze a little bit and have to play backwards

00:25:05.289 --> 00:25:08.130
as opposed to always running downhill on the

00:25:08.130 --> 00:25:10.930
run game, I think there's a lot of opportunity

00:25:10.930 --> 00:25:13.809
to be had for the Buffalo Bills against this

00:25:13.809 --> 00:25:15.950
Kansas City Chiefs defense. I really, really

00:25:15.950 --> 00:25:19.789
do. I think this is going to be, if the Bills

00:25:19.789 --> 00:25:23.789
play it right, the most boring, suffocating ball

00:25:23.789 --> 00:25:26.869
control, take the air out of it, offensive game

00:25:26.869 --> 00:25:29.049
plan we have seen from this unit. But I agree

00:25:29.049 --> 00:25:31.829
with you. I think play action has to factor in

00:25:31.829 --> 00:25:35.259
to take to take the linebackers out of some of

00:25:35.259 --> 00:25:38.259
those easy run downhill situations where spags

00:25:38.259 --> 00:25:41.359
is loading up the box. Yeah, no, absolutely.

00:25:41.700 --> 00:25:43.420
And that's that's the point I was trying to make

00:25:43.420 --> 00:25:46.000
is that whatever the bills think that they can

00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:49.339
do, the chiefs will absolutely focus their entire

00:25:49.339 --> 00:25:52.599
effort on erasing that. that opportunity. So

00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.220
and if they don't have a counterpunch, so this

00:25:55.220 --> 00:25:58.180
is a big Joe Brady and Josh Allen question, if

00:25:58.180 --> 00:26:00.039
they don't have a counterpunch, if they don't

00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:04.400
have a quick answer to the exotic CB blitzes

00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:07.079
or the crazy edge stunts that Spagnolo is going

00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:10.599
to send, they're going to get cooked. And it's

00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:12.700
a type of game, as we know with every Kansas

00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:16.599
City matchup, where if the Bills get field goals

00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:19.380
instead of touchdowns, pretty quickly it starts

00:26:19.380 --> 00:26:23.049
to get out of hand. their playbook is reduced

00:26:23.049 --> 00:26:25.890
down to trying to hit bigger things that Kansas

00:26:25.890 --> 00:26:28.730
City then just is going to eat them up. So the

00:26:28.730 --> 00:26:31.170
thing I'm most intimidated by with this game

00:26:31.170 --> 00:26:34.890
is that we have not seen the Bills, except for

00:26:34.890 --> 00:26:37.470
one quarter against the Ravens, be able to play

00:26:37.470 --> 00:26:41.349
in any kind of game and win, right? Like we haven't

00:26:41.349 --> 00:26:44.849
seen the Bills do the precision game. They lost

00:26:44.849 --> 00:26:46.690
a precision game because the Patriots were more

00:26:46.690 --> 00:26:50.529
precise with their game. They lost a sloppy game

00:26:50.529 --> 00:26:53.910
because the Falcons were more, were taking advantage

00:26:53.910 --> 00:26:56.829
of mistakes more often, right? Like that's the

00:26:56.829 --> 00:26:58.730
problem I have is that the, sure, the Chiefs

00:26:58.730 --> 00:27:00.450
have lost more games. They've had, they've also

00:27:00.450 --> 00:27:03.369
had some errors. Mahomes was throwing a lot of

00:27:03.369 --> 00:27:06.190
interceptions early in the season, but the Chiefs

00:27:06.190 --> 00:27:09.089
look like they've pulled it all together a little

00:27:09.089 --> 00:27:11.150
bit more than the Bills have. It looks for the

00:27:11.150 --> 00:27:13.849
Bills that their defense has shown great improvements

00:27:13.849 --> 00:27:18.059
in one week. Their offense. run game looks fantastic,

00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.140
but it's looked pretty good all year if they

00:27:20.140 --> 00:27:22.599
stick to it. It's just the big question mark

00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.400
for me is what happens if the Bills have to counterpunch?

00:27:25.740 --> 00:27:28.759
Because I know the Chiefs can. Yeah, no. And

00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:31.460
I think and listen. I don't want to rush to prediction

00:27:31.460 --> 00:27:34.119
share to go wrong. I think the Bills offense

00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:36.160
has a better than punchers chance against this

00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.539
Chiefs defense. I just think this Chiefs defense

00:27:38.539 --> 00:27:41.579
is not at all what it used to be, right? I mean,

00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:43.660
even if you want to talk about the pure pass

00:27:43.660 --> 00:27:47.099
rush game, their four man pass rush success rate

00:27:47.099 --> 00:27:49.359
is bottom third in the league at this point.

00:27:49.740 --> 00:27:52.680
They are a team that is. failing to get pressure

00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.359
on the opposing QB unless they commit to the

00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:58.400
blitz. And again, I think there's a lot of opportunities.

00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:01.619
If Brady and Alan play it smart, there's a lot

00:28:01.619 --> 00:28:04.180
of opportunities to take advantage of that aggressiveness.

00:28:04.579 --> 00:28:07.500
But again, use some of this. I feel like Brady

00:28:07.500 --> 00:28:09.480
has just been setting us up all season for this

00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.220
moment, using some of these personnel packages

00:28:12.220 --> 00:28:14.240
where you've been so statistically predictable

00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.400
to finally roll out those wrinkles that we've

00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:20.109
been expecting. If play action. does not factor

00:28:20.109 --> 00:28:22.609
into this game though, I will really begin to

00:28:22.609 --> 00:28:25.829
question how good Brady is at his job. Because

00:28:25.829 --> 00:28:28.769
there's like, there is no reason why you should

00:28:28.769 --> 00:28:31.569
not be running the ball with James Cook mercilessly

00:28:31.569 --> 00:28:34.710
up the gut and then sucking in Chanal and sucking

00:28:34.710 --> 00:28:37.369
in Tranquil on play action. There's absolutely

00:28:37.369 --> 00:28:38.990
no reason why the middle of the field should

00:28:38.990 --> 00:28:42.009
not be wide open for Kieran Kincaid for large

00:28:42.009 --> 00:28:44.650
stretches of this game. There's also no reason,

00:28:45.029 --> 00:28:50.380
like if I don't see a play where Josh Allen quickly

00:28:50.380 --> 00:28:53.819
takes a snap, turns to his right or left for

00:28:53.819 --> 00:28:56.900
the tunnel screen, but it's just a fake, and

00:28:56.900 --> 00:28:59.380
then launches something, a seam shot over the

00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:01.599
middle. I don't know what to tell you. I think

00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.579
Joe Brady sucks, right? Like, because the bills

00:29:04.579 --> 00:29:07.359
have with those stupid, you know, I think they're

00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:09.539
stupid unless Shakira breaks one for 80 yards

00:29:09.539 --> 00:29:11.660
and gets a touchdown, right? Like, because so

00:29:11.660 --> 00:29:13.380
many times I think it's really, it's a frustrating

00:29:13.380 --> 00:29:15.220
play for me because I get it. I understand the

00:29:15.220 --> 00:29:17.440
purpose. The wide receiver needs to make one

00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:19.000
person miss. The tight end needs to make one

00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.039
person miss and it's an eight to 10 yard gain.

00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.680
And so it seems it's easy profits, right? I understand

00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:28.000
the play design, but If a team plans for it and

00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.839
the Kansas City Chiefs are that kind of team,

00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.500
when they do a lot of film study, they're very

00:29:32.500 --> 00:29:34.900
well coached. If they see that thing developing,

00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:37.480
they put overload to that side. If they blow

00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:39.960
it up for a two or three yard loss, fumble something.

00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:42.819
That is a perfect opportunity though to plan

00:29:42.819 --> 00:29:45.000
their aggressiveness, have somebody vacate space

00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.440
and just go right over the top. And that's what

00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.160
I'm going to be looking for is those tendency

00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:54.049
breakers. Because if we continue to see the same

00:29:54.049 --> 00:29:58.250
play script and play design over and over, if

00:29:58.250 --> 00:30:00.109
we have another end around that somebody fumbles,

00:30:00.269 --> 00:30:03.809
right? Oh, I think they've launched that into

00:30:03.809 --> 00:30:06.829
the sun. Good. No, I cannot see them running

00:30:06.829 --> 00:30:09.289
the end around to Dawson Knox again. I just can't

00:30:09.289 --> 00:30:11.329
see it happening. Yeah. No, or Elijah Moore.

00:30:11.509 --> 00:30:14.710
Each one of them fumbled once. Yeah, no, it's

00:30:14.710 --> 00:30:17.470
so that's where I'm at with this is like there's

00:30:17.470 --> 00:30:20.420
a lot of there's. ripe opportunities just as

00:30:20.420 --> 00:30:22.319
you laid out. And I'm not saying that I think

00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:24.880
that the Kansas City Chiefs are an absolutely

00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:26.640
flawless defense, because I know they're not.

00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:29.119
They have warts. But I do think that they're

00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:31.319
one of the best coach defenses. They're one of

00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.480
the best teams in the league working with what

00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.140
they have to shut down somebody's best plays

00:30:36.140 --> 00:30:39.519
and players. They are. I think and I think this

00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:41.880
is the only place we depart because we both agree

00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.859
that it's a well -coached unit. I think I have

00:30:45.859 --> 00:30:48.480
more faith in what we have seen as the standard

00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:50.420
play script for the Buffalo Bills, particularly

00:30:50.420 --> 00:30:53.420
in the run game than you have. I don't think,

00:30:53.579 --> 00:30:56.240
regardless of coaching, that the Kansas City

00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:00.500
Chiefs have the personnel at the point of attack

00:31:00.500 --> 00:31:05.140
in the trenches or at the second level to dramatically

00:31:05.140 --> 00:31:06.980
affect the Buffalo Bills run game. I mean, dude,

00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:09.400
we saw it last year in the playoffs. The Bills...

00:31:09.210 --> 00:31:12.609
ran at will against Kansas City. The reason why

00:31:12.609 --> 00:31:14.829
we ultimately had to go away from James Cook

00:31:14.829 --> 00:31:16.890
at certain points was because the game script,

00:31:17.230 --> 00:31:21.450
because of our defensive ineffectiveness, forced

00:31:21.450 --> 00:31:24.630
us to take an offensive posture that was not

00:31:24.630 --> 00:31:26.750
playing to our strengths in that game. Same thing

00:31:26.750 --> 00:31:30.289
in the 2024 playoff game, the divisional round

00:31:30.289 --> 00:31:34.599
in Buffalo, right? We were moving that that chiefs

00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.559
offensive line at will, particularly in the third

00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:39.920
quarter. I mean, Brady basically was salting

00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:42.940
that game away as early as as early as nine minutes

00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:45.500
to go in the third, right? But again, game script

00:31:45.500 --> 00:31:48.160
flip because our defense could not do what it

00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:50.079
needed to do against Patrick Mahomes. And I think

00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.720
that's a good opportunity to flip it. And let's

00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:54.839
talk about this new look bills defense against

00:31:55.150 --> 00:31:58.309
this new look, this new look, Kansas city chiefs

00:31:58.309 --> 00:32:00.890
offense, um, the Kansas city chiefs, it always

00:32:00.890 --> 00:32:02.849
feels like we're chasing them, right? When it

00:32:02.849 --> 00:32:04.910
comes to roster build, particularly on offense.

00:32:05.230 --> 00:32:08.390
They trade away Tyree kill, they win a couple

00:32:08.390 --> 00:32:11.529
of Super Bowls and they do it with a lineup of

00:32:11.529 --> 00:32:15.289
like B type wide receiver role players. They

00:32:15.289 --> 00:32:17.430
maximize that as much as they can until the rest

00:32:17.430 --> 00:32:19.289
of the league catches up. And then this year

00:32:19.289 --> 00:32:20.589
they're like, you know what, we just need to

00:32:20.589 --> 00:32:23.430
have really speedy, really effective wide receivers

00:32:23.430 --> 00:32:25.609
that can attack at every level of the field.

00:32:25.910 --> 00:32:28.130
It feels like the Buffalo Bills are coming around

00:32:28.130 --> 00:32:30.450
to that realization, right? So like the way I

00:32:30.450 --> 00:32:34.190
look at this is I'm looking at like it's the

00:32:34.190 --> 00:32:36.250
ghost of Christmas past, the Chiefs are going

00:32:36.250 --> 00:32:39.069
to be looking at an offensive mirror against

00:32:39.069 --> 00:32:41.269
what they tried to be the past couple of years

00:32:41.269 --> 00:32:43.230
when they see the Bills run out there. And the

00:32:43.230 --> 00:32:44.990
Bills and Brandon Bean are hopefully looking

00:32:44.990 --> 00:32:47.589
at the Ghost of Christmas future and be like,

00:32:47.710 --> 00:32:49.130
you know what, this is ultimately what we need

00:32:49.130 --> 00:32:51.089
to get back to. Because I think this Kansas City

00:32:51.089 --> 00:32:54.029
Chiefs offensive unit, I do not think the Buffalo

00:32:54.029 --> 00:32:56.109
Bills will have a lot of answers for it. I just

00:32:56.109 --> 00:32:59.029
don't. I just don't. Yeah. And to your point

00:32:59.029 --> 00:33:02.349
of the New Look Buffalo Bills defense, I think

00:33:02.349 --> 00:33:06.119
that the The biggest question I have is can the

00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.960
Bills front four get pressure on Mahomes in a

00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.880
contain rush sort of way? Not letting him leak

00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:14.900
out to the left or right because he's killing

00:33:14.900 --> 00:33:17.099
teams week over week. He's looked like Patrick

00:33:17.099 --> 00:33:19.900
Mahomes from two or three years ago in which

00:33:19.900 --> 00:33:23.440
no single player snap is over and he will make

00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.890
you pay. if you don't get him on the ground.

00:33:26.250 --> 00:33:27.509
And that was the biggest complaint we've had

00:33:27.509 --> 00:33:29.410
about Bill's matchups with Patrick Mahomes in

00:33:29.410 --> 00:33:31.069
the past is they don't get him on the ground.

00:33:31.349 --> 00:33:34.309
If they can affect him, hit him and get him on

00:33:34.309 --> 00:33:35.970
the ground in this game, that's going to be that

00:33:35.970 --> 00:33:37.109
I think that's going to be the whole difference.

00:33:37.130 --> 00:33:40.349
That's the answer I can tell. I'm going to prognosticate

00:33:40.349 --> 00:33:42.930
that if you look in the box score after this

00:33:42.930 --> 00:33:45.890
game and the Bills have more than three sacks

00:33:45.890 --> 00:33:47.630
on Patrick Mahomes, they've won the game. And

00:33:47.630 --> 00:33:48.809
if they have less than three, they've probably

00:33:48.809 --> 00:33:53.849
lost it. You know, it's it's I'm I'm I want to

00:33:53.849 --> 00:33:56.849
be with you on that one. I really do. I just,

00:33:57.190 --> 00:33:59.829
uh, he's such a hard QB to sack. You know what

00:33:59.829 --> 00:34:02.430
I mean? And it feels like even when we do ultimately

00:34:02.430 --> 00:34:04.849
sack him, it feels like it doesn't ultimately

00:34:04.849 --> 00:34:08.590
make that much of a difference. I mean, he is

00:34:08.590 --> 00:34:11.550
the time to pressure for Mahomes this season.

00:34:12.070 --> 00:34:14.929
He is like scarily close to the top of the league.

00:34:15.150 --> 00:34:18.150
Like this offensive line, especially with, uh,

00:34:18.170 --> 00:34:21.409
their rookie, what's his name? Watts, uh, Jay.

00:34:21.489 --> 00:34:24.690
I know they got Jalen Moore who is the backup

00:34:24.690 --> 00:34:27.409
the rookie Simmons is it Simmons that I'm thinking

00:34:27.409 --> 00:34:31.769
about Left tackle left tackle Jalen Moore. No,

00:34:31.889 --> 00:34:33.750
no, that's that's their backup who's starting

00:34:33.750 --> 00:34:36.949
now, right? Yeah. Yep I think they got the the

00:34:36.949 --> 00:34:39.929
Simmons kid who's been out on some some undisclosed

00:34:39.929 --> 00:34:43.250
person coming back not this week Okay, so as

00:34:43.250 --> 00:34:46.269
a result of that though, Mahomes has been harassed

00:34:46.269 --> 00:34:49.039
and flushed from the pocket him and Josh are

00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.239
battling for fourth and fifth respectively when

00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.780
it comes to scramble rates for QBs, right? I

00:34:54.780 --> 00:34:58.159
mean, his time to pressure I think is like seventh

00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:01.340
quickest in the league, which is uncharacteristic

00:35:01.340 --> 00:35:03.559
for a Kansas City Chiefs offense, but we have

00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:06.619
seen his willingness and his gameness to take

00:35:06.619 --> 00:35:09.559
off and run. And this is what concerns me. I

00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:11.639
actually think the Bills are going to get pressure

00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:14.559
on him in this game. Our four -man pressure rate

00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.800
this season, JJ, as far as success rate and EPA

00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.320
per play, both top quarter in the league this

00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:23.340
season. Like the four -man pass rush for the

00:35:23.340 --> 00:35:25.860
Bills has actually been working, and we have

00:35:25.860 --> 00:35:28.639
seen it work. It just hasn't worked in a complementary

00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.460
or tandem way with our coverage. Which brings

00:35:32.460 --> 00:35:34.579
me to like ultimately why I think we are going

00:35:34.579 --> 00:35:36.219
to get pressure and it's not going to matter

00:35:36.219 --> 00:35:38.400
is because we're probably going to have to find

00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.199
ourselves playing a lot of man in this game,

00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.579
which means our second level defenders and are

00:35:43.579 --> 00:35:45.579
going to have their backs turned to Mahomes.

00:35:45.739 --> 00:35:48.840
If if we do not maintain contain discipline,

00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.019
as you said, I think Mahomes is going to find

00:35:51.019 --> 00:35:53.880
some really easy scrambles. He's done it every

00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:56.760
team he's faced this season with a lot of success.

00:35:56.940 --> 00:35:59.079
I actually think this is a game where Mahomes

00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:02.349
could be pushing 100 yards rushing. Okay. That's

00:36:02.349 --> 00:36:04.250
an interesting take. I think that, you know,

00:36:04.630 --> 00:36:08.230
what you say absolutely lines up. And I do know

00:36:08.230 --> 00:36:10.070
that the Buffalo Bills have employed a spy on

00:36:10.070 --> 00:36:11.929
Mahomes in the past that has not been effective.

00:36:13.090 --> 00:36:15.150
Who? I mean, who are they gonna hire? They used

00:36:15.150 --> 00:36:17.610
to, they have in the past spied him when he was

00:36:17.610 --> 00:36:19.469
healthy with Terrell Bernard or Matt Milano.

00:36:20.070 --> 00:36:24.809
And I, each one of them, not nearly as bad as

00:36:24.809 --> 00:36:28.469
Tremaine Edmonds, but... in the neighborhood

00:36:28.469 --> 00:36:31.170
of Asbad, of being manipulated by Mahome's eyes

00:36:31.170 --> 00:36:34.710
and moving off as a spy and trying to squeeze

00:36:34.710 --> 00:36:36.389
a route that he ended up just tucking the ball

00:36:36.389 --> 00:36:39.250
down and running seven, six yards, whatever he

00:36:39.250 --> 00:36:42.750
needed to get to the sideline. I think, but I

00:36:42.750 --> 00:36:44.989
still, I stand by the fact that I know he's being

00:36:44.989 --> 00:36:46.610
pressured. I know that it's Josh Simmons out

00:36:46.610 --> 00:36:48.050
of Ohio State the first round and they picked

00:36:48.050 --> 00:36:51.110
it 32nd. That kid's good when he comes back.

00:36:51.130 --> 00:36:54.150
That kid's good, yeah. So if he's out for this

00:36:54.150 --> 00:36:56.170
game, Isaiah Pacheco's out for this game. you

00:36:56.170 --> 00:36:58.150
know, it's going to be interesting. But to your

00:36:58.150 --> 00:37:00.150
point, I think that the biggest disadvantage

00:37:00.150 --> 00:37:03.190
that the Bills have on defense is that they are

00:37:03.190 --> 00:37:05.449
going against Rashid Rice, Xavier Worthy and

00:37:05.449 --> 00:37:09.349
Hollywood Brown. Three absolute speedsters and

00:37:09.349 --> 00:37:11.510
then a resurgent Travis Kelsey who doesn't look,

00:37:11.889 --> 00:37:13.829
you know, he looks like he'd been working out

00:37:13.829 --> 00:37:17.150
with Taylor Swift because he is slender and he

00:37:17.150 --> 00:37:20.010
is fast again. which shouldn't be happening in

00:37:20.010 --> 00:37:23.849
his like, what is it, 12th season? So yeah, he's

00:37:23.849 --> 00:37:26.130
looked like he's come back around to previous

00:37:26.130 --> 00:37:29.150
versions of himself, at least in glimmers. And

00:37:29.150 --> 00:37:31.889
that means that I'm absolutely certain there's

00:37:31.889 --> 00:37:34.809
gonna be at least two or three third down situations

00:37:34.809 --> 00:37:37.429
where Buffalo Bill's fans are throwing their

00:37:37.429 --> 00:37:39.909
empty LeBat blue cans at their TV screens because

00:37:39.909 --> 00:37:42.150
Travis Kelsey is open with a five yard cushion

00:37:42.150 --> 00:37:45.610
all the way around him in some empty zone. Exactly

00:37:45.610 --> 00:37:48.039
past the sticks where he needs to be. Yeah, like

00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.699
he usually is. And I think what's more too, and

00:37:50.699 --> 00:37:54.880
listen, the defensive stand against Carolina

00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:57.639
was so impressive, especially with so many new

00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.239
parts being integrated into the scheme. But this

00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:03.420
is still a Buffalo Bills defense that when they

00:38:03.420 --> 00:38:05.940
face play action and when they face misdirection

00:38:05.940 --> 00:38:10.420
and motion, they bite so hard. They bite so hard.

00:38:11.139 --> 00:38:13.650
Carolina... Doesn't didn't do a lot of that.

00:38:14.050 --> 00:38:16.349
I think Kansas City will and it's been so interesting

00:38:16.349 --> 00:38:20.230
to watch my home's my home's drop back metrics.

00:38:20.230 --> 00:38:24.010
There are some games where read will scheme in.

00:38:24.190 --> 00:38:26.269
Even if the run game isn't working, read will

00:38:26.269 --> 00:38:29.360
simply scheme in. 14 or 15 solid opportunities

00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.480
for play action shots down the field. I think

00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.940
in that Jacksonville Jaguars game, Mahomes was

00:38:33.940 --> 00:38:36.119
like 11 for 12 on play action, right? One of

00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.079
his better games of the season. Then you look

00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.039
at a game like they just played last Monday night

00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:43.239
against Washington, Mahomes only goes four, like

00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.059
three for four on play action opportunities,

00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:49.199
right? Reid just has these levers and these creative

00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:51.420
schemes that he can pull to where you really

00:38:51.420 --> 00:38:54.960
don't know, there is no tendency. Right. There

00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.980
is no pattern with Reid. He is going to see what

00:38:57.980 --> 00:39:01.039
you're bad at. And he is going and him and his

00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.960
his Borg like QB, they're going to assimilate

00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:06.619
to whatever they're throwing out there. So I

00:39:06.619 --> 00:39:08.119
actually think the Bills are going to see a ton

00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:10.599
of play action thrown at them from Kansas City,

00:39:10.619 --> 00:39:13.099
even if Pachenko isn't on the field. And I think

00:39:13.099 --> 00:39:15.880
we should expect some misdirection. Yeah. Well,

00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:17.420
and I think to your point about Andy Reid is

00:39:17.420 --> 00:39:19.619
like the difference between Andy Reid and every

00:39:19.619 --> 00:39:22.420
other offensive play caller in the league is.

00:39:22.809 --> 00:39:25.510
Every other offensive player play caller has

00:39:25.510 --> 00:39:28.730
a plate like a playbook. Andy Reid has like a

00:39:28.730 --> 00:39:31.489
play encyclopedia. He's got like a play chat

00:39:31.489 --> 00:39:34.570
GPT. There is no limit to the knowledge base

00:39:34.570 --> 00:39:37.309
that he can pull from to find a play for a perfect

00:39:37.309 --> 00:39:40.010
situation to hit you exactly where it hurts,

00:39:40.309 --> 00:39:43.429
because he's probably called that play at some

00:39:43.429 --> 00:39:45.550
point in his incredibly long career and successful

00:39:45.550 --> 00:39:48.389
career. Right. Like he has coached two impressive

00:39:48.389 --> 00:39:52.469
franchises to postseason success. over the course

00:39:52.469 --> 00:39:55.550
of several decades. So there isn't something

00:39:55.550 --> 00:39:57.849
that he doesn't know how to do. And the thing

00:39:57.849 --> 00:39:59.469
that I think is so surprising about the Chiefs,

00:39:59.829 --> 00:40:01.090
and I don't want anybody to think I'm admiring

00:40:01.090 --> 00:40:05.250
them because I freaking hate them, but the thing

00:40:05.250 --> 00:40:07.730
that is impressive about them, one thing that's

00:40:07.730 --> 00:40:11.250
impressive about them is the variability of their

00:40:11.250 --> 00:40:15.389
offense and their ability to bring between 11

00:40:15.389 --> 00:40:17.969
and 17 guys, because they also use role players,

00:40:18.650 --> 00:40:22.539
into a scheme, into a playbook. or play encyclopedia

00:40:22.539 --> 00:40:26.260
that is so vast and variable and have them ready

00:40:26.260 --> 00:40:27.960
every week, right? Because I think that's the

00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.800
biggest thing that's so surprising is every team

00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:33.599
at some time or another seems to struggle with

00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.460
getting new pieces to be where they're supposed

00:40:35.460 --> 00:40:37.539
to be on the field and play their supposed their

00:40:37.539 --> 00:40:40.360
supposed role in a play design. And if that role

00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.659
isn't kind of near leader perfect, plays fall

00:40:43.659 --> 00:40:45.619
apart. I think we've seen that in the Bills so

00:40:45.619 --> 00:40:49.059
many times is with their kind of revolving door

00:40:49.059 --> 00:40:51.119
of wide receivers. If somebody runs the wrong

00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.659
route, they end up in the same space as another

00:40:53.659 --> 00:40:56.619
player. Josh is throwing a ball and neither person

00:40:56.619 --> 00:40:58.980
is where they need to be. And it's picked off.

00:40:59.050 --> 00:41:01.369
it's just blown up. And I think that's the problem

00:41:01.369 --> 00:41:04.369
with most offenses that doesn't seem to always

00:41:04.369 --> 00:41:06.730
be the problem with the chief ever with Andy

00:41:06.730 --> 00:41:09.050
Reid at the helm is he gets his guys ready and

00:41:09.050 --> 00:41:10.530
they know what they're supposed to do, no matter

00:41:10.530 --> 00:41:13.250
how many times they change. Juju Smith Schuster

00:41:13.250 --> 00:41:16.730
is for sure breaking at least a 40 yard 40 yard

00:41:16.730 --> 00:41:19.949
catch and run in this one for sure. All right,

00:41:20.050 --> 00:41:22.769
man. Yep. Prediction sure to go wrong. Let's

00:41:22.769 --> 00:41:24.469
hit this thing. Let's hit this. All right So

00:41:24.469 --> 00:41:27.530
this line opened at Kansas City minus one and

00:41:27.530 --> 00:41:30.070
a half It has gone up as high as minus two and

00:41:30.070 --> 00:41:32.469
a half in favor of Kansas City and has settled

00:41:32.469 --> 00:41:36.150
at Minus two as we speak over under on this game

00:41:36.150 --> 00:41:40.349
fifty two and a half points JJ score prediction

00:41:40.349 --> 00:41:53.269
Bills 32 chiefs 28. Oh That is bold. That's really

00:41:53.269 --> 00:41:56.929
bold. What what what gives you what gives you

00:41:56.929 --> 00:41:59.130
the confidence that this Buffalo Bills defense

00:41:59.130 --> 00:42:01.070
is going to hold this chief's offense to under

00:42:01.070 --> 00:42:09.469
30? Turnovers, just turnovers. That's it. I think

00:42:09.469 --> 00:42:11.429
that the Bills have shown that even with really

00:42:11.429 --> 00:42:13.289
good players and I'm not talking about my homes,

00:42:13.309 --> 00:42:14.530
but I'm talking about some of the skill position

00:42:14.530 --> 00:42:18.769
players that they have an elite tier punch out

00:42:18.769 --> 00:42:21.550
capability. And so I think that there there may

00:42:21.550 --> 00:42:24.070
there may be some fumble fumbles fumble Ruskies

00:42:24.070 --> 00:42:27.269
happening out here on Buffalo Bills turf and

00:42:27.269 --> 00:42:29.409
then the home field advantage I think as well

00:42:29.409 --> 00:42:31.650
that does affect teams and that does has and

00:42:31.650 --> 00:42:39.110
does affect the Chiefs. Yeah And I'm gonna go

00:42:39.110 --> 00:42:43.289
God and I'm gonna do this for for partly Karmic

00:42:43.289 --> 00:42:45.130
reasons because every time I pick against the

00:42:45.130 --> 00:42:49.460
Bills they seem to win I am over I am over three

00:42:49.460 --> 00:42:52.400
on this podcast picking against the bills. So

00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:56.619
I'm going to go Chiefs 34 bills 31. Okay, I think

00:42:56.619 --> 00:42:59.780
I think you're I think what we're going to see

00:42:59.780 --> 00:43:01.159
and this is probably going to be wrong because

00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:03.800
I'm always wrong. You're going to see opposing

00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.280
opposing offensive philosophies. I actually think

00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:11.099
Because the Buffalo Bills now have so many personnel

00:43:11.099 --> 00:43:13.599
patterns on defense, they can run out. You're

00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:15.659
going to see the Kansas City Chiefs play a tempo,

00:43:15.739 --> 00:43:17.920
which they do really, really well. And the Buffalo

00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:21.679
Bills really struggle with playing teams that

00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.239
speed up the pace on offense. It's going to limit

00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:27.739
our ability in obvious passing situations to

00:43:27.739 --> 00:43:30.179
get guys like Boyer off the field and guys like

00:43:30.179 --> 00:43:33.219
Hancock on the field. Guys like Doreen Williams

00:43:33.219 --> 00:43:35.260
off the field, guys like Terrell Bernard on the

00:43:35.260 --> 00:43:37.139
field. And I think it's going to create some

00:43:37.139 --> 00:43:40.599
advantageous mashups. On the flip side, I think,

00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:44.019
again, unless Joe Brady is horrible at his job,

00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:47.519
the Buffalo Bills are going to grind and suffocate

00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:49.820
this Chicanes City Chiefs defense through the

00:43:49.820 --> 00:43:52.000
run game. And ultimately what's going to come

00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.500
down to is which unit defensively do you trust?

00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:58.739
to get a bucket when you need it. Is it going

00:43:58.739 --> 00:44:01.460
to be Steve Spagnola and his endless play call

00:44:01.460 --> 00:44:04.300
sheet of plays that they that no one has ever

00:44:04.300 --> 00:44:06.340
seen put on film before that he can run out?

00:44:06.659 --> 00:44:09.239
Or is it going to be Babbage and McDermott and

00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:12.000
no shade of McDermott? He's a great DC, but Spags

00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.679
is the goat. So if it comes down to one of those

00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:16.960
high leverage movements, I simply trust the Kansas

00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.019
City Chiefs more to make that play. So I'm going

00:44:20.019 --> 00:44:24.099
to go Bills 31, Chiefs 34. I'm taking the over.

00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.219
I don't think either as these defense are going

00:44:26.219 --> 00:44:27.880
to be particularly effective at stopping each

00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.800
other. All right. Do you do you have a prop you

00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.360
like to get to? I do. Keon Coleman. Let's talk

00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:35.440
about let's talk about Mr. Coleman. All right.

00:44:36.179 --> 00:44:38.900
Keon Coleman. I think I think Vegas has his over

00:44:38.900 --> 00:44:41.179
under four yardage at this game is at like thirty

00:44:41.179 --> 00:44:44.360
three and a half or something like that. Keon

00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:48.519
Coleman, JJ, over under fifty and a half yards

00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:57.090
receiving. I'm going to hit the over. And I'll

00:44:57.090 --> 00:44:59.010
tell you why. It's not because I think he's good.

00:45:00.150 --> 00:45:03.090
You've made that clear. Yeah. No, I think it's

00:45:03.090 --> 00:45:06.070
because, sorry, I have to address it because

00:45:06.070 --> 00:45:08.690
it's blown up on socials and everybody's seen

00:45:08.690 --> 00:45:11.550
it. Just the image of him standing behind Sean

00:45:11.550 --> 00:45:13.989
McDermott looking absolutely disinterested to

00:45:13.989 --> 00:45:16.110
be there in the locker room during a victory

00:45:16.110 --> 00:45:18.289
speech from your head coach tells me everything

00:45:18.289 --> 00:45:20.210
I need to know about you. Unless you got your

00:45:20.210 --> 00:45:22.110
bell rung and you had a concussion and he literally

00:45:22.110 --> 00:45:24.690
doesn't know where he is. He should have more

00:45:24.690 --> 00:45:28.190
even just fake energy even like he didn't even

00:45:28.190 --> 00:45:29.989
pretend to hold put his hands together while

00:45:29.989 --> 00:45:32.329
everybody's clapping He just like stood there

00:45:32.329 --> 00:45:34.969
with a blank expression. Um, i'm sorry that tells

00:45:34.969 --> 00:45:37.889
i've i've played sports with people who have

00:45:37.889 --> 00:45:41.389
that sort of affect That's not a guy like that's

00:45:41.389 --> 00:45:44.309
he's not gonna be a guy, right? Like he's he

00:45:44.309 --> 00:45:46.329
might be too in his head about what's going on

00:45:46.329 --> 00:45:49.030
with his life and his And his role and his lack

00:45:49.030 --> 00:45:51.409
of efficacy on this team, but you can't live

00:45:51.409 --> 00:45:54.469
that way and then succeed. I Unless I see a change

00:45:54.469 --> 00:45:55.969
in his attitude. I don't think he's gonna get

00:45:55.969 --> 00:45:58.369
any better on the field that being said you're

00:45:58.369 --> 00:46:00.510
over under 50 yards I'm hitting over and this

00:46:00.510 --> 00:46:04.349
is why Josh Allen wants to be right on Recommending

00:46:04.349 --> 00:46:07.170
Keon Coleman so bad and we've both watched it.

00:46:07.170 --> 00:46:10.809
We've both watched the all 22 Almost every single

00:46:10.809 --> 00:46:14.110
play where Keon Coleman has one of the like three

00:46:14.110 --> 00:46:17.630
reads Josh looks to him first, right? He's always

00:46:17.630 --> 00:46:22.230
hoping that Keon Coleman is gonna Break away

00:46:22.230 --> 00:46:23.650
from the line. He's gonna have a good release

00:46:23.650 --> 00:46:26.530
He's gonna be ready and available and he turns

00:46:26.530 --> 00:46:29.650
down that option a lot quite a lot the reason

00:46:29.650 --> 00:46:31.989
I think he's gonna go over 50 yards is because

00:46:31.989 --> 00:46:34.130
I do think that like you said the Bills defense

00:46:34.130 --> 00:46:36.110
is not gonna have answers for the Chiefs offense

00:46:36.110 --> 00:46:39.070
they're going to get gashed quite a bit and that

00:46:39.070 --> 00:46:41.429
Keon Coleman is going to be relied on because

00:46:41.429 --> 00:46:44.030
he is that first read for better or worse because

00:46:44.030 --> 00:46:45.889
Josh Allen wants that wants to hit that X receiver

00:46:45.889 --> 00:46:49.460
whether it's play design Josh's preference or

00:46:49.460 --> 00:46:52.579
something else. I know that he looks there often,

00:46:53.300 --> 00:46:55.019
and Keanu is the most targeted wide receiver

00:46:55.019 --> 00:46:58.119
on this team right now. Although they did go

00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:00.219
away from him, and I was happy to see this in

00:47:00.219 --> 00:47:04.480
the Carolina game. Josh Palmer was limited today,

00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.239
so there's a chance that we see him out there.

00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.039
I don't think so. High ankles with the Bills

00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.559
tend to be a four -week injury. Yeah, that's

00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:16.960
true. This will be three. Yeah. I don't know.

00:47:17.179 --> 00:47:19.840
We'll say I'm I am actually taking me under on

00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.639
this one. Coleman has not had good games against

00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:24.960
Kansas City, and I do think they've got dudes

00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:27.119
that can frustrate him on the outside of McDuffie

00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:33.480
and Watson for sure. However, I will also add

00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:37.099
a piece to this that says. After this game Coleman

00:47:37.099 --> 00:47:39.639
becomes potentially more disgruntled. We call

00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:41.840
up Jacksonville We're like, hey, let's trade

00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.239
for disgruntled wide receivers and give them

00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:46.980
each a Give them each a breath of fresh air and

00:47:46.980 --> 00:47:49.199
we'll throw in a second round pick and you send

00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.300
us Brian Thomas jr And we'll send you key up.

00:47:51.300 --> 00:47:53.900
I might do it. I might do it. Yeah, I mean what

00:47:53.900 --> 00:47:56.940
would stop you from doing that? Yeah, I don't

00:47:56.940 --> 00:48:00.880
think Yeah, I don't know the only thing that's

00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.039
taught me is like a second a second is a little

00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.920
rich Maybe, maybe a third in Keon. Yeah, I don't,

00:48:08.019 --> 00:48:09.679
but I don't think Jacksonville would take that.

00:48:10.219 --> 00:48:12.480
I think they would need, I mean, honestly would,

00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.320
I mean, I would, I want to buy low on this, but

00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:17.559
I don't think a third gets it done. And honestly,

00:48:17.739 --> 00:48:20.340
Keon fits in really well to that Liam, Liam common,

00:48:20.619 --> 00:48:23.719
Liam Cohen offense. I mean, the reason why Thomas

00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.239
has been so ineffective is he doesn't want to

00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:28.179
run in breakers. He doesn't want to come across

00:48:28.179 --> 00:48:31.019
the middle of the field at any level of his route

00:48:31.019 --> 00:48:34.079
tree. He has a pure sideline burner. What are

00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:36.920
the Buffalo Bills need? Pure sideline, right?

00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.579
And what is Keon Coleman shown a propensity for?

00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:41.599
He's happy to come across the middle, right?

00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.059
He wants to get dirty in the middle. Yeah, absolutely.

00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.420
Yeah, no, that's a that's a cool call out. All

00:48:47.420 --> 00:48:49.039
right, I'm going to hit this prop until I fail

00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:55.119
on it. Michael Hoyt over under one sack. I am

00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:58.050
tempted to go over. Um, just because I was so

00:48:58.050 --> 00:49:00.829
happy with what I saw from point and then he

00:49:00.829 --> 00:49:03.170
had that edge to him and that little bit of like

00:49:03.170 --> 00:49:05.389
that little bit of trolling he did at the end

00:49:05.389 --> 00:49:08.349
of the game where he took the flop after he drew

00:49:08.349 --> 00:49:13.150
a flag for, for, um, for, uh, what was it? Unnecessary

00:49:13.150 --> 00:49:16.070
roughness. I think it was. Yeah. Um, but he took

00:49:16.070 --> 00:49:18.489
the flop on it. I mean, he's just, and I put

00:49:18.489 --> 00:49:20.920
this out on our socials. He is going to be the

00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:23.780
player that other fan bases hate that we will

00:49:23.780 --> 00:49:27.219
love that he is on our team. Yeah. So just because

00:49:27.219 --> 00:49:29.159
of that, I want to say over. I think he's going

00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.059
to be juiced. I think he's got a little little

00:49:32.059 --> 00:49:35.300
cam scat about a scataboo in him too. And he's

00:49:35.300 --> 00:49:37.320
this is his first Chiefs game with with the Bills.

00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:39.079
I think he's going to be juiced. I would actually

00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:41.780
take the over. I think that it's being under

00:49:41.780 --> 00:49:47.139
reported maybe that he playing in proximity to

00:49:47.139 --> 00:49:50.260
his hometown. Is like just I think it's super

00:49:50.260 --> 00:49:52.199
massive for this guy just the way he talks about

00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.139
ball I think it matters quite a lot and I think

00:49:55.139 --> 00:49:58.079
that he it comes through in his play in one game

00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.480
sample size and I love that somebody got him

00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:02.139
on the side think Sal Capaccio or somebody got

00:50:02.139 --> 00:50:04.059
him on the sideline and asked him, you know Oh,

00:50:04.059 --> 00:50:06.539
you know, you had such a splash in this game

00:50:06.539 --> 00:50:07.780
and he's like you only get one chance to make

00:50:07.780 --> 00:50:10.780
a first impression like that Awesome. Awesome.

00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:13.639
Yes. Yeah, he's a good one. I think we're gonna

00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.900
like him I gotta hope I'm not wrong about that

00:50:17.829 --> 00:50:20.730
Alright, I got one more prop for you Xavier worthy

00:50:20.730 --> 00:50:24.349
who has Apparently has a blood feud with the

00:50:24.349 --> 00:50:27.329
Buffalo Bills for being one of the 31 teams that

00:50:27.329 --> 00:50:30.449
refused to draft him Yes, and but he holds it

00:50:30.449 --> 00:50:32.230
personal against the Bills for whatever reason

00:50:32.230 --> 00:50:34.369
well they traded out of the spot the exact spot

00:50:34.369 --> 00:50:37.210
He was selected I know but like come give me

00:50:37.210 --> 00:50:39.530
a break like they weren't taking them in that

00:50:39.530 --> 00:50:42.829
spot Yeah, no, but the chiefs did so like it's

00:50:42.829 --> 00:50:45.559
the kind of thing. We're like yeah Yeah, I get

00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.280
it. I get it from the players perspective. It's

00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:49.300
like you literally had me on the board and you

00:50:49.300 --> 00:50:52.420
treat you. You traded to get away from me. It's

00:50:52.420 --> 00:50:55.079
so contrived. How many other teams didn't pick

00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:57.639
this guy, right? I mean, give me a break. Anyways,

00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.699
he seems to save his his best game specifically

00:51:00.699 --> 00:51:05.380
for us over under JJ Xavier worthy 80 and a half

00:51:05.380 --> 00:51:11.679
yards and half a TD reception. I think people

00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:13.239
who watch or listen are going to be tired of

00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:15.900
my huge heavy sigh when I try to decide how I

00:51:15.900 --> 00:51:17.699
think these, because I just thought I was like,

00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:19.519
I think I do that every single time. Shit. It's

00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:21.019
supposed to be hard though, right? This is why

00:51:21.019 --> 00:51:26.320
we do this. Yeah. I'm going to hit the under

00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:30.960
just because I think that this is, you know,

00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:33.440
the Chiefs have this groundbreaking new motto

00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:35.780
they've employed this season, which is called,

00:51:35.860 --> 00:51:37.800
which is everybody got to eat. I don't know if

00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.159
you've ever heard anything like it. I hate them

00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:42.139
so much for that. Yeah, they just started it

00:51:42.139 --> 00:51:43.739
this season and no one's ever done anything like

00:51:43.739 --> 00:51:45.840
it before just in case you wondered. It's like

00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:47.960
jesus christ like the team that you've dominated

00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:50.760
in the playoffs for the last like seven years

00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:54.079
It's like just because you lost and got obliterated

00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:56.539
in the super bowl Yeah, you so you can't troll

00:51:56.539 --> 00:51:58.320
the team you lost to because you got don't have

00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:00.619
a foot to stand on So you're gonna troll everybody

00:52:00.619 --> 00:52:03.440
beat. Yeah, I hate those guys. They're so petty.

00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:07.019
They're jerks. I hate it And I hate the disingenuous

00:52:07.019 --> 00:52:10.280
media coverage of a two like asking travis kelsey,

00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:12.360
man What is it about the selflessness of this

00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:14.260
team and this everybody's got to eat motto? It's

00:52:14.260 --> 00:52:17.579
like Did you guys not exist last year when Buffalo

00:52:17.579 --> 00:52:21.000
got rid of Diggs? Give me a break. Why has no

00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.139
one asked, is this troll of Buffalo? You frauds.

00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:27.059
Why has nobody asked? Hey, this is really exactly

00:52:27.059 --> 00:52:30.840
quite identical to a different team that is a

00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:33.809
rival of yours. I hate them. I hate them so much.

00:52:33.889 --> 00:52:36.409
So I'm going to I'm going to say the under and

00:52:36.409 --> 00:52:38.510
I'll tell you why. It's because of that. They're

00:52:38.510 --> 00:52:40.789
new. Everybody got to eat motto. I feel like

00:52:40.789 --> 00:52:42.269
the bills are probably going to pay a lot of

00:52:42.269 --> 00:52:44.409
attention to Russia race and Xavier worthy with

00:52:44.409 --> 00:52:47.849
safety help. And so I think, like you said, you

00:52:47.849 --> 00:52:53.010
know, the. Other receivers, you know, crossing

00:52:53.010 --> 00:52:55.110
underneath Kelsey. I think there's some other

00:52:55.110 --> 00:52:56.969
pieces that are going to maybe blow up a little

00:52:56.969 --> 00:52:59.650
bit more because I do trust that McDermott and

00:52:59.650 --> 00:53:01.110
Babbage are going to try to take away what they

00:53:01.110 --> 00:53:03.849
do best in their outside receivers. But that

00:53:03.849 --> 00:53:07.070
means, you know, Hollywood Brown and others might

00:53:07.070 --> 00:53:12.190
feast. Yeah, I'm you've kind of talked me into

00:53:12.190 --> 00:53:15.130
taking the under there too, only because to.

00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:18.099
As creative as Andy Reid is as a play caller,

00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:20.639
Xavier Worthy still seems to be a player where

00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:22.920
it's like, unless he's running, unless he's running

00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:26.000
like a go route, they really don't have a lot

00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:28.380
schemed up for him. And his catch rate still

00:53:28.380 --> 00:53:30.320
isn't the best. He's a little bit of a body catcher.

00:53:30.380 --> 00:53:32.519
I think he's sitting somewhere around 59, 60

00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:35.699
% for his catch rate. Like he's just. He is an

00:53:35.699 --> 00:53:38.079
option on that team, and his speed deep is a

00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.480
threat, and you see teams favoring it, which

00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.480
will open stuff up for Rice, which is why I think

00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.219
you see the majority of the targets going there

00:53:44.219 --> 00:53:47.079
for sure. Him and Kelsey. Yeah. All right, man.

00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:49.900
One final prop for me. I did a defense. Let's

00:53:49.900 --> 00:53:52.440
do an offense. Josh Allen over under one and

00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:58.719
a half passing touchdowns. I mean, over probably,

00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:02.099
right? I mean, the Chiefs are a team he has played

00:54:02.099 --> 00:54:06.389
well against and. Like it's he I mean he regularly

00:54:06.389 --> 00:54:09.230
lays a 30 burger on spags, right? I mean spags

00:54:09.230 --> 00:54:12.889
is like we have said the goat but spags has not

00:54:12.889 --> 00:54:16.530
shut down Josh Allen He has found the one play

00:54:16.530 --> 00:54:19.590
every game where he can get Josh Allen off the

00:54:19.590 --> 00:54:22.369
field, right? Yeah But he has not been able to

00:54:22.369 --> 00:54:24.889
consistently throttle or shut down Josh. So yeah,

00:54:24.889 --> 00:54:28.130
I'm gonna say sure. Okay, and I think and if

00:54:28.130 --> 00:54:31.289
Joe Brady is a good is a good offensive coordinator

00:54:31.289 --> 00:54:34.079
both of those will go to James Cook Because can

00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:36.360
we please use James Cook in the past, too, against

00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.360
this team? Yeah, absolutely. A team that has

00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.760
been extremely vulnerable to tight ends and running

00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:43.320
backs in the middle of the field. All right,

00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:44.659
which means we're going to see Dalton Kinkade

00:54:44.659 --> 00:54:47.280
for 40 % of the snaps. Just lose my mind right

00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:50.260
now. God, I can see it. I can read you the stat

00:54:50.260 --> 00:54:53.760
line right now. Well, to be fair, I think Dalton

00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:56.280
Kinkade is dragging around an injury again. I

00:54:56.280 --> 00:54:58.059
don't think he is. He definitely wasn't 100 %

00:54:58.059 --> 00:55:00.599
in the Carolina game. I know, but for the love

00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:02.739
of God, come on, what are you going to do? He's

00:55:02.739 --> 00:55:05.090
your best. Best pass catcher. He's your best

00:55:05.090 --> 00:55:07.730
pass catcher, without a doubt. Oh, God. But then

00:55:07.730 --> 00:55:10.829
feed Cook. Just feed Cook. If Cook doesn't have

00:55:10.829 --> 00:55:13.110
at least 25 touches in this game, what are we

00:55:13.110 --> 00:55:14.269
doing? What are we doing with our hands? What

00:55:14.269 --> 00:55:16.889
are we even doing? Yeah. Why are we here? Right.

00:55:17.750 --> 00:55:19.789
All right. Let's not end it negative, though.

00:55:19.829 --> 00:55:22.889
The Bills are coming off a 40 -9 drubbing, looking

00:55:22.889 --> 00:55:25.710
good in the running game, looking better on defense,

00:55:26.050 --> 00:55:29.389
and have a matchup with the Chiefs in the prime

00:55:29.389 --> 00:55:34.099
425 window at home. in Buffalo. Everyone's going

00:55:34.099 --> 00:55:36.079
to have plenty of time to tailgate and get sauced

00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:39.099
up. It's it's going to be an electric atmosphere.

00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:41.500
Looks like it's going to be an OK weather day.

00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:44.400
Not super great. Looks like maybe a little rain,

00:55:45.019 --> 00:55:48.980
a little chilly. But but we're excited. And and

00:55:48.980 --> 00:55:51.239
yeah, let's let's end on a positive note, Dan.

00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:53.940
Let's go. Oh, man. I'm no I'm ready for this

00:55:53.940 --> 00:55:57.940
game. I'm absolutely ready for this game. It

00:55:57.940 --> 00:56:00.179
matters it matters in a way that we're not used

00:56:00.179 --> 00:56:02.940
to it mattering yes but by the same token the

00:56:02.940 --> 00:56:05.599
stakes are still really high and no matter what

00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:07.340
the narrative is about the bills always do in

00:56:07.340 --> 00:56:09.539
the regular season they can't do in the postseason

00:56:09.539 --> 00:56:12.400
it is always good to chalk up a win against a

00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.179
conference rival. potentially put this conference

00:56:15.179 --> 00:56:17.360
rival on their back heels, too, when it comes

00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:20.019
to actually making the postseason. Right. I mean,

00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:22.239
isn't Kansas City right now currently this hanging

00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:24.179
on to the seven? Yeah. Yeah, they have three

00:56:24.179 --> 00:56:26.400
losses already. So yeah, I would love to hand

00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:28.119
them a fourth and make it really, really hard

00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.139
for them to get into the because they don't have

00:56:30.139 --> 00:56:31.980
an easy schedule coming up. They got a pretty

00:56:31.980 --> 00:56:34.659
feisty division. Right. So this could be one

00:56:34.659 --> 00:56:37.139
that absolutely puts a division conference rival

00:56:37.139 --> 00:56:39.059
on their heels. And I would like to see the bills

00:56:39.059 --> 00:56:41.360
do that. So, yeah. Yep. No, I'm juice. I'm going

00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:44.019
to be watching the game. Very, very intently,

00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:46.500
for sure. Very excited for it, JJ. But yeah.

00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:48.380
All right. And hopefully all of you listening

00:56:48.380 --> 00:56:51.039
home are excited, too. And we thank you for spending

00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:52.780
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