WEBVTT 00:00:00.790 --> 00:00:03.649 Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread Podcast. I 00:00:03.649 --> 00:00:06.910 am your host Dan Roberts. We are continuing our 00:00:06.910 --> 00:00:10.660 Bye Week series here as the Bills Maybe gloriously 00:00:10.660 --> 00:00:12.980 don't play this Sunday after a rough two game 00:00:12.980 --> 00:00:15.460 stretch. We got a chance to check in with our 00:00:15.460 --> 00:00:18.039 friend Mike Kajowski, a .k .a. Mr. Brightside. 00:00:18.379 --> 00:00:21.079 Give us a positive take on our last episode about 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:23.219 where he feels like the Bills stand. And now 00:00:23.219 --> 00:00:25.199 we're going to check in with another one of our 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:28.460 illustrious guest co -host, one Logan DeLutis. 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:30.480 Logan, as you may remember from our preseason 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:33.560 series, an avid Giants fan. We made the promise 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:36.219 to him earlier in that episode that once Jackson 00:00:36.219 --> 00:00:38.560 Dart got the start, we would bring him back on 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:40.619 the pod. And it just so happens the bills don't 00:00:40.619 --> 00:00:43.320 have football, the Giants do this weekend. So 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:44.640 I thought it'd be a great time to bring Logan 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:46.479 back and talk about how he's feeling about the 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:49.679 G -Men and their new potentially generational 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.619 game changer and Jackson Dart. Logan, how you 00:00:52.619 --> 00:00:55.219 doing today, sir? I'm doing good. It's a pleasure 00:00:55.219 --> 00:00:58.179 to be back. Awesome, man. It's great to have 00:00:58.179 --> 00:01:00.759 you back. And listen, as I alluded to, we had 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:03.399 promised to bring you back when the the Dart 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:06.719 era began for the New York Giants. I just don't 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:08.439 think you and I thought it was going to be this 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:10.680 soon. We had actually talked about in that last 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:13.180 episode you were on, you know, when is a good 00:01:13.180 --> 00:01:15.540 time to roll with Dart? Because the offensive 00:01:15.540 --> 00:01:19.040 line was still looking a little bit shaky outside 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:22.000 of outside of a couple of key pieces on offense. 00:01:22.420 --> 00:01:24.659 It didn't really look like the scheme was going 00:01:24.659 --> 00:01:27.439 to be well tailored to him. And I mean, you had 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:30.120 a murderers row for a schedule particularly in 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:32.500 the beginning of the year. So we both thought 00:01:32.500 --> 00:01:36.200 like week 10, maybe week 11, but here we are 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:39.219 rolling into week seven. Dart has three games 00:01:39.219 --> 00:01:42.879 under his belt, two wins as a starter. And it 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:45.200 also looks like he has found his soulmate and 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:47.060 cam scatter boot too, which we will talk about 00:01:47.060 --> 00:01:49.780 a little bit as well. So here we are. You've 00:01:49.780 --> 00:01:52.780 got a QB that has more wins than losses since 00:01:52.780 --> 00:01:55.209 he entered the league in Jackson Dart. Tell me 00:01:55.209 --> 00:01:57.790 a little bit. I know it's a small sample size, 00:01:58.030 --> 00:02:01.349 Logan, but what has Dart done so far that has 00:02:01.349 --> 00:02:04.890 impressed you the most early on? I think he's 00:02:04.890 --> 00:02:08.050 just continued what he did in the preseason. 00:02:08.189 --> 00:02:11.270 I think we kind of touched on this in the previous 00:02:11.270 --> 00:02:14.810 podcast I was a part of. He's just made overall, 00:02:15.110 --> 00:02:18.069 for the most part, smart decisions with the football. 00:02:19.129 --> 00:02:21.849 I think you see a lot of times with these rookie 00:02:21.849 --> 00:02:25.939 QBs, these early in the NFL QBs, they want to 00:02:25.939 --> 00:02:28.280 make these big plays, especially the ones that 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:31.379 know they can, like a Jackson Dart. He did it 00:02:31.379 --> 00:02:33.759 a lot of his college career. He made these big 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:36.860 flashy plays. I don't think he's trying to force 00:02:36.860 --> 00:02:40.780 it too much in the NFL. I think he knows he's 00:02:40.780 --> 00:02:44.000 got to take what he can get, capitalize on what 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:46.000 he can capitalize on. And I think he's doing 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:50.419 that. And I think it's helping him a lot more 00:02:50.419 --> 00:02:53.979 than hurting him. And that's kind of what I've 00:02:53.979 --> 00:02:56.680 seen a lot out of him. That's what I saw a lot 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:59.159 of in the preseason. And that's kind of what 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:02.800 I was hoping to see when he eventually, you know, 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:05.020 came onto the scene in the regular season. Like 00:03:05.020 --> 00:03:06.599 he kind of said, I didn't think it'd be this 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:10.479 soon, but he's here. And I think he's just continued 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:13.419 to make smart decisions. I agree with you and 00:03:13.419 --> 00:03:14.979 I think that's the thing that's stood out to 00:03:14.979 --> 00:03:18.000 me too and it bears in some of the numbers that 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:21.199 he's put up early on here as he has entered the 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:23.520 league kind of taking the the city and the league 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:26.719 in itself by storm. One of the big things that 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:30.159 I think is a is a difference maker for him is 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.189 his pressure right now. The offensive line has 00:03:34.189 --> 00:03:36.169 improved its play. Andrew Thomas, who we'll get 00:03:36.169 --> 00:03:38.469 to in a little bit, his return to the lineup 00:03:38.469 --> 00:03:41.250 couldn't have been better timed for Dart to get 00:03:41.250 --> 00:03:43.629 his first starting action as well. But right 00:03:43.629 --> 00:03:46.370 now, I mean, he is a quarterback that's benefited 00:03:46.370 --> 00:03:49.189 from one of the top 10 lowest pressure rates 00:03:49.189 --> 00:03:51.469 in the league. He's getting the ball out quick, 00:03:51.509 --> 00:03:54.430 but not too quick and to your point. He's not 00:03:54.430 --> 00:03:56.949 forcing it making dumb decisions down the field. 00:03:57.650 --> 00:03:59.969 He's he is air yards per target is sitting in 00:03:59.969 --> 00:04:03.469 the top 10 through three games amongst all qualifying 00:04:03.469 --> 00:04:06.669 starting QBs. But to your point, not a lot of 00:04:06.669 --> 00:04:08.569 turnover worthy throws making good decisions 00:04:08.569 --> 00:04:11.689 with a ball. He seems to have this innate understanding 00:04:11.689 --> 00:04:14.590 of knowing when the defense take what the defense 00:04:14.590 --> 00:04:17.389 is giving to him. And then also when to push 00:04:17.389 --> 00:04:20.920 the ball downfield made all the more impressive 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:22.680 to me and the fact that you guys don't have neighbors 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:25.980 in the lineup. And I think Kafka is doing him 00:04:25.980 --> 00:04:28.300 a lot of favors too, taking advantage of this 00:04:28.300 --> 00:04:31.100 new found running attack that you guys have with 00:04:31.100 --> 00:04:34.279 Kam Scadaboo to really spam play action. I always 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:37.730 love it. When you see a first time rookie QB, 00:04:37.790 --> 00:04:40.589 I have an offensive coordinator that just knows 00:04:40.589 --> 00:04:42.689 how to hit the easy button within the scheme 00:04:42.689 --> 00:04:45.529 and give them some, some easy stuff to hit. And 00:04:45.529 --> 00:04:47.670 Kafka's doing that with play action. As of right 00:04:47.670 --> 00:04:51.009 now, Jackson Dart is benefiting from a 30 .6 00:04:51.009 --> 00:04:54.250 % play action rate on all plays called. That's 00:04:54.250 --> 00:04:56.430 good for fourth highest in the league, sucking 00:04:56.430 --> 00:04:58.829 in a lot of linebackers, making the middle of 00:04:58.829 --> 00:05:00.689 the field open for them. And this is the piece 00:05:00.689 --> 00:05:03.490 that I want to talk to you about. It seems like. 00:05:03.579 --> 00:05:07.740 The Giants wide receivers are finding space and 00:05:07.740 --> 00:05:10.740 Kafka is playing around with a lot of fun configurations 00:05:10.740 --> 00:05:14.180 that he wasn't able to do with Russell Wilson. 00:05:14.860 --> 00:05:17.639 How surprised are you based on what you saw through 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:20.120 the first few games of the season with Wilson 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:23.680 versus what you're seeing now with Dart? How 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:25.639 surprised are you that the Giants have so quickly 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.300 tailored the scheme to what he does best? I think 00:05:28.300 --> 00:05:30.980 they had it in their back pocket because I think 00:05:30.980 --> 00:05:33.839 they knew this day was coming. Um, they were 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:36.259 kind of, you know, the rumor mill was kind of 00:05:36.259 --> 00:05:39.379 spinning with dark first, you know, had his first 00:05:39.379 --> 00:05:43.319 start against the chargers that they were prepared 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:46.519 for this all along. They were practicing with 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.839 him and running a scheme, running a scheme that 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:54.360 was around him all along. Um, so I think, you 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:57.079 know, to the, to Mike Kafka and Brian Dable's 00:05:57.079 --> 00:05:59.939 credit, I think they knew this day would probably 00:05:59.939 --> 00:06:03.680 come. And I think they had a scheme pre -built 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:06.819 for Jackson Dart because obviously as everyone 00:06:06.819 --> 00:06:10.740 knows, Russell Wilson and Jackson Dart are completely 00:06:10.740 --> 00:06:14.620 different quarterbacks. Obviously Jackson Dart 00:06:14.620 --> 00:06:18.800 liking to use his legs a lot more. Russell Wilson 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:21.279 can still use his legs, but he doesn't go to 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:26.740 it as often as Jackson obviously does. But again, 00:06:26.779 --> 00:06:29.199 to answer your question, I think they had this 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:32.860 built. for Jackson Dart from the beginning. I 00:06:32.860 --> 00:06:34.819 think everyone kind of had in their back of the 00:06:34.819 --> 00:06:37.959 mind that Jackson Dart was coming eventually. 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:41.800 And again, I give Brian Dable and Mike Kafka 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:45.079 a lot of credit for being ready when he did come. 00:06:45.139 --> 00:06:48.439 And it wasn't trying to force him into a scheme 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.360 that Russell Wilson was running that ultimately 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:54.459 didn't work for his play style. Cause we've kind 00:06:54.459 --> 00:06:57.879 of seen that in the past with with Giants QBs 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:01.199 and I'll bring it up because a lot of people 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:04.180 have asked me Daniel Jones being one of them. 00:07:04.379 --> 00:07:06.660 We had a scheme that didn't work for Daniel Jones. 00:07:07.379 --> 00:07:09.839 And of course, part of it was, you know, the 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:12.139 offensive line and he was pressured all the time, 00:07:12.819 --> 00:07:15.259 but he's an indie now with a scheme that works 00:07:15.259 --> 00:07:18.779 for him and he's balling and I'm happy to see 00:07:18.779 --> 00:07:22.319 it for him. So yeah, a lot of credit to the coaches 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:25.240 for being ready for when Jackson Dart eventually 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.250 came onto the scene. Absolutely. And I think 00:07:28.250 --> 00:07:30.310 Russell Wilson, where he's at at the stage of 00:07:30.310 --> 00:07:33.389 his career too, there were some natural limiting 00:07:33.389 --> 00:07:36.009 factors, I think, that forced Dable and Kafka 00:07:36.009 --> 00:07:38.009 really should not be able to open up the full 00:07:38.009 --> 00:07:40.329 playbook for him. But when you look at the athletic 00:07:40.329 --> 00:07:43.050 tools that Dart brings to the table, some of 00:07:43.050 --> 00:07:45.970 this QB read option stuff that they want to do, 00:07:46.230 --> 00:07:47.949 although I wish they would put him a little bit 00:07:47.949 --> 00:07:50.290 less in harm's, Dart in harm's way sometimes, 00:07:50.490 --> 00:07:53.009 but it feels like the playbook is fully open. 00:07:53.290 --> 00:07:55.209 It doesn't feel like they're, doesn't feel like 00:07:55.209 --> 00:07:58.019 they're hiding any. feels like they've got this 00:07:58.019 --> 00:08:00.740 innate amount of trust in him already so early 00:08:00.740 --> 00:08:03.060 on to really execute the vision of the offense 00:08:03.060 --> 00:08:06.379 as they see fit. So, I mean, for Dayball particularly, 00:08:06.379 --> 00:08:08.500 and we'll get to him at the end of this too, 00:08:08.779 --> 00:08:11.040 but for a coach on the hot seat, it's got to 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:14.680 feel good to have your signal caller in the huddle 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:16.819 be someone who can execute your vision of the 00:08:16.819 --> 00:08:21.339 offense for sure. Speaking of the offense, we 00:08:21.339 --> 00:08:24.500 had mentioned Malik neighbors has been out of 00:08:24.500 --> 00:08:26.600 action. going to be missing him for the remainder 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:29.660 of the season, which makes so much of the sufficiency 00:08:29.660 --> 00:08:32.299 in the passing game to me, Logan, all that much 00:08:32.299 --> 00:08:35.659 more impressive. That being said. You are now 00:08:35.659 --> 00:08:38.679 on the rookie QB window. And what a lot of teams 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:41.159 tend to do is they tend to build out from that 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:44.019 by signing some veterans to bigger contracts. 00:08:44.460 --> 00:08:46.860 You now have opened up a range with salary cap 00:08:46.860 --> 00:08:50.159 space, having a rookie QB will give you to sign 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.279 some like middle -class veterans that really 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:55.399 elevate the floor of this roster as well. And 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.980 you know, it sounds like based on a lot of rumors 00:08:57.980 --> 00:09:01.990 on the interwebs that the giants are not willing 00:09:01.990 --> 00:09:03.789 to wait till the off season to make a lot of 00:09:03.789 --> 00:09:06.750 that happen. Word is that they are big game hunting, 00:09:06.990 --> 00:09:08.889 especially this year with Malik neighbors being 00:09:08.889 --> 00:09:11.889 down for a wide receiver. Names that have been 00:09:11.889 --> 00:09:14.330 bandied about are Jalen Waddle out of Miami, 00:09:14.370 --> 00:09:17.950 though I'm not sure Miami with all the dead cap 00:09:17.950 --> 00:09:20.470 they would absorb could move him, but I'm a Bills 00:09:20.470 --> 00:09:22.389 fan. We moved Stefan Diggs and we ate it, so 00:09:22.389 --> 00:09:25.649 who knows? Chris Olave, Rashid Shahid, both in 00:09:25.649 --> 00:09:28.389 the New Orleans Saints products, maybe a Jacobi 00:09:28.389 --> 00:09:32.899 Myers. Do you think the Giants will trade for 00:09:32.899 --> 00:09:35.340 a wide receiver one? And do you think that helps 00:09:35.340 --> 00:09:39.159 this team make a playoff push? Or as a fan, now 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:41.600 kind of on the precipice of this new era, would 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:43.360 you prefer that they just keep the draft capital 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.240 and keep building the old fashioned way? Yeah, 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.700 I think first talking about will they do it. 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:54.460 I think it's a 50 -50 shot that they do trade 00:09:54.460 --> 00:09:57.960 for a receiver. You know, we've talked about 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:00.549 this before. I had wished that Wayne got a receiver 00:10:00.549 --> 00:10:03.269 in the off season to pair with Malik Neighbors. 00:10:04.309 --> 00:10:06.570 Now that Malik Neighbors is unfortunately out 00:10:06.570 --> 00:10:09.509 for the year, and you can kind of see I'm paying 00:10:09.509 --> 00:10:14.350 homage to him with the jersey I have on. But 00:10:14.350 --> 00:10:18.610 I think it's kind of a moot point now to go and 00:10:18.610 --> 00:10:21.809 get a receiver when you can't really pair him 00:10:21.809 --> 00:10:26.100 with Malik Neighbors. Yes, I of course would 00:10:26.100 --> 00:10:30.559 love to see, you know, a Chris Olavi, a Waddle 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:33.740 with the Giants. But then there's a part of me 00:10:33.740 --> 00:10:36.080 that would love to see them opposite Malik neighbors 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.940 and bringing them to their full potential with 00:10:38.940 --> 00:10:44.240 the Giants. I think Dart and the offensive operated 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:48.259 well with the receivers they have. I mean, he 00:10:48.259 --> 00:10:50.720 went out and played a phenomenal game against 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:54.490 the Eagles with A couple of guys we brought up 00:10:54.490 --> 00:10:56.990 from the practice squad that stepped up big, 00:10:57.169 --> 00:10:59.649 um, one being little Jordan Humphrey. He stepped 00:10:59.649 --> 00:11:03.850 up huge. Um, I don't really see a need for us 00:11:03.850 --> 00:11:09.750 to go make a splash with receiver. Um, I, I think 00:11:09.750 --> 00:11:11.929 if, if we were, I would see how the next couple 00:11:11.929 --> 00:11:14.549 of weeks go. And if we can win the next couple 00:11:14.549 --> 00:11:18.149 of weeks and put ourselves at the top end of 00:11:18.149 --> 00:11:21.090 the NFC East and you know, we're really looking 00:11:21.090 --> 00:11:24.360 bright enough to where, okay, maybe. The division's 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.659 kind of wide open. The Eagles are kind of struggling 00:11:26.659 --> 00:11:29.980 a little bit, uh, to really, you know, kind of 00:11:29.980 --> 00:11:32.080 blow teams out as they have in the past. Games 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:34.159 are a little competitive with teams against the 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:37.340 Eagles. Um, the Cowboys defense obviously is 00:11:37.340 --> 00:11:39.519 giving up a ton of points and if their offense 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:42.299 doesn't produce, it's ultimately a loss for them 00:11:42.299 --> 00:11:47.320 kind of. Um, and the commanders as of now are 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:50.639 looking a little shaky. So. I don't want to say 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:52.879 that NFC East is open, but again, if the Giants 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.759 can win the next couple games and kind of get 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:59.919 in the mix, then maybe, okay, it's like, oh wow, 00:11:59.940 --> 00:12:01.879 we actually have a chance to make the playoffs 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.259 this year. Do we maybe go get a receiver to kind 00:12:05.259 --> 00:12:10.379 of make that push? Again, I don't think anyone 00:12:10.379 --> 00:12:12.820 was expecting us to really push for the playoffs 00:12:12.820 --> 00:12:17.419 this year. I think with how Shane has drafted 00:12:17.419 --> 00:12:20.840 in the past, I would prefer to keep the draft 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:25.720 capital. I've always been a Shane fan when it 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:27.539 comes to our drafts. I think he's done a good 00:12:27.539 --> 00:12:30.399 job so far with our drafts and getting players 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:35.559 we needed to fill out our roster. I think I'd 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:37.960 more so like to keep the draft capital. And if, 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.100 you know, we end the season with a not great 00:12:41.100 --> 00:12:45.379 record, we get a high draft pick. Maybe it's 00:12:45.340 --> 00:12:48.120 bad enough to where we can snag a guy like Jeremiah 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.220 Smith or Ryan Williams high in the draft and 00:12:52.220 --> 00:12:55.100 now have that guy across from Malik neighbors 00:12:55.100 --> 00:12:57.960 on a rookie contract rather than a guy like Waddle 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:01.539 who's got a lot of money associated with him. 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:06.159 Chris Olave, despite his concussion issues, you 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:08.919 know, was still a good receiver in the league 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:12.539 and would demand money. You ultimately have to 00:13:12.539 --> 00:13:15.750 sign Malik neighbors. at some point to an extension. 00:13:17.370 --> 00:13:19.450 I think it's just a bigger picture of the roster 00:13:19.450 --> 00:13:22.470 that they have to consider. And is it really 00:13:22.470 --> 00:13:25.950 the time now to go make a splash for a playoff 00:13:25.950 --> 00:13:29.929 push? Yeah, and you bring up a really good point. 00:13:30.309 --> 00:13:35.350 I think the temptation for a GM... I agree with 00:13:35.350 --> 00:13:37.750 you. Before I say anything else, I agree with 00:13:37.750 --> 00:13:41.080 you. I think... Given the stage that the Giants 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:43.320 are in this rebuild, the draft capital is super 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:47.259 important. And they have positions of need that 00:13:47.259 --> 00:13:50.440 the next couple of drafts in 26 and 27 are really 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.139 going to, they're going to have some options 00:13:52.139 --> 00:13:53.919 for them that are going to fill those needs. 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:56.700 I think the only thing, and you kind of, you 00:13:56.700 --> 00:13:58.620 kind of did such a good job of laying out with 00:13:58.620 --> 00:14:00.820 the landscape of the NFC East looks like right 00:14:00.820 --> 00:14:03.879 now. The only thing you got to keep in the back 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:06.740 of your mind if you're a Giants fan is that you've 00:14:06.740 --> 00:14:10.440 got a GM. and a co head coach that are basically 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.960 sort of kind of playing for their jobs this year. 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:16.399 Right. And if they feel like they're a Chris 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:19.500 alive a rental away from getting to the playoffs 00:14:19.500 --> 00:14:22.340 and what looks like a severely weakened NFC East. 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:26.620 I do wonder if the temptation of now and getting 00:14:26.620 --> 00:14:30.539 that security now bucks what you and I think 00:14:30.539 --> 00:14:33.629 both agree would be the more reasonable, rational, 00:14:33.809 --> 00:14:35.649 long term view to take, which would be keep the 00:14:35.649 --> 00:14:38.850 draft capital and build that way, right? So super 00:14:38.850 --> 00:14:40.590 interesting to see how you guys proceed with 00:14:40.590 --> 00:14:44.350 all that. One of the areas of need you guys don't 00:14:44.350 --> 00:14:47.529 have is tackle, specifically with Andrew Thomas, 00:14:48.070 --> 00:14:52.330 his return dude could not have been better timed 00:14:52.330 --> 00:14:55.350 for when you guys rolled out Jackson Dart. And 00:14:55.350 --> 00:14:58.450 Thomas is absolutely owning Everyone that goes 00:14:58.450 --> 00:15:00.830 up against him off the edge. He is currently 00:15:00.830 --> 00:15:03.990 recording then a 95 % pass block win rate according 00:15:03.990 --> 00:15:07.269 to ESPN Which is good for sixth in the league 00:15:07.269 --> 00:15:10.850 amongst qualifying tackles How do you think Thomas's 00:15:10.850 --> 00:15:13.470 performance has helped darts early success? I 00:15:13.470 --> 00:15:17.090 think it's been a tremendous help to his success 00:15:17.090 --> 00:15:23.090 Andrew Thomas has played and provided what every 00:15:23.090 --> 00:15:28.820 fan coach quarterback wants for being a tackle 00:15:28.820 --> 00:15:32.059 that protects your blind side. And that's obviously 00:15:32.059 --> 00:15:35.399 to win against guys off the edge and keep you 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:38.840 from being on the turf. Andrew Thomas has of 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:42.379 course done a great job in doing so, as you mentioned. 00:15:43.379 --> 00:15:45.600 And I think Andrew Thomas is kind of the glue 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:47.820 to this offensive line. I think Andrew Thomas 00:15:47.820 --> 00:15:51.159 is not only... shown that he's playing at an 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.019 elevated level, but I think he's also bringing 00:15:54.019 --> 00:15:57.159 the rest of the line up with him in his return. 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.580 We kind of saw the line looking a little lost 00:16:00.580 --> 00:16:03.000 at the beginning when Russ was under center and, 00:16:03.299 --> 00:16:05.419 you know, there were a lot of questions as if 00:16:05.419 --> 00:16:08.279 the line with all the improvements that Shane 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:12.019 has made is that the offensive line is old of 00:16:12.019 --> 00:16:14.820 old where. They can't really keep the quarterback 00:16:14.820 --> 00:16:17.559 protected. Russ looked like he had no time to 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:21.419 sit in the pocket at times. You know, was it 00:16:21.419 --> 00:16:22.940 going to be another year where our quarterback 00:16:22.940 --> 00:16:25.039 just gets killed all the time and we can't get 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:28.919 the ball out? But it seems like with Andrew Thomas 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:32.600 returning that he's kind of brought that line 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:36.100 back together. And I mean, not only Andrew Thomas, 00:16:36.139 --> 00:16:38.500 but I think the rest of the offensive line has 00:16:38.500 --> 00:16:41.970 played an extremely elevated level. that you 00:16:41.970 --> 00:16:44.610 kind of mentioned earlier, they're top in the 00:16:44.610 --> 00:16:47.350 league right now as far as allowing pressure. 00:16:47.830 --> 00:16:50.730 And that's something we've struggled with for 00:16:50.730 --> 00:16:56.009 years. And it's an important thing to limit when 00:16:56.009 --> 00:16:58.110 you have a rookie quarterback that's trying to 00:16:58.110 --> 00:17:01.210 get his feet under him and just perform at a 00:17:01.210 --> 00:17:03.669 somewhat high level and keep the team competitive. 00:17:04.910 --> 00:17:06.650 Because I think... At the end of the day, that's 00:17:06.650 --> 00:17:08.349 what people wanted with Jackson Dart when he 00:17:08.349 --> 00:17:10.630 finally came in is no one was expecting him to 00:17:10.630 --> 00:17:12.730 come in and start blowing teams out and throw 00:17:12.730 --> 00:17:16.170 for a 100 plus passer rating a game and three 00:17:16.170 --> 00:17:18.329 touchdowns a game. He just wanted to keep the 00:17:18.329 --> 00:17:20.150 Giants competitive because we knew we had the 00:17:20.150 --> 00:17:22.490 defense to keep teams out of the end zone and 00:17:22.490 --> 00:17:26.730 out of scoring. And people just wanted him, myself 00:17:26.730 --> 00:17:29.390 being one of those people, wanted him to just 00:17:29.390 --> 00:17:34.690 keep us in games and make smart decisions. I 00:17:34.690 --> 00:17:38.829 think a lot of credit to the, to the success 00:17:38.829 --> 00:17:40.750 of this line is to Andrew Thomas. Cause I think 00:17:40.750 --> 00:17:43.630 without him, they kind of seem a little lost 00:17:43.630 --> 00:17:46.509 and he's kind of that glue that brings them together. 00:17:47.890 --> 00:17:51.250 And along with that, again, keeping Jackson Dar 00:17:51.250 --> 00:17:54.170 on his feet and able to push the ball downfield 00:17:54.170 --> 00:17:57.089 and make these throws and even have the ability 00:17:57.089 --> 00:17:59.950 to move out of the pocket and, and extend plays. 00:18:01.029 --> 00:18:03.650 Cause that's important as well. And you see a 00:18:03.650 --> 00:18:07.779 lot. the elite quarterbacks and you know, I'll 00:18:07.779 --> 00:18:10.940 speak on your your own quarterback Josh Allen 00:18:10.940 --> 00:18:16.279 having a line that allows him to Extend plays 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:20.480 when needed instead of you know, nothing's there 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:22.859 and now they're panicking and now they're they're 00:18:22.859 --> 00:18:26.440 sacked So it's been a great thing to see this 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.200 line come together It's been great to have Andrew 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.240 Thomas back and you know, I kind of hope it it 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:35.490 stays that way Yeah, man. I hope for the Sagir 00:18:35.490 --> 00:18:37.950 squad. It does too. JJ talks about this all the 00:18:37.950 --> 00:18:41.009 time. The importance of not just talent on the 00:18:41.009 --> 00:18:44.369 offensive line, but continuity, communication, 00:18:44.829 --> 00:18:48.210 chemistry. He calls it this preternatural sense 00:18:48.210 --> 00:18:50.930 to know that the man next to you is going to 00:18:50.930 --> 00:18:53.170 have his assignment so that you can go a hundred 00:18:53.170 --> 00:18:55.789 percent on your assignment. And it does feel 00:18:55.789 --> 00:18:58.930 like That Thomas has been that force multiplier 00:18:58.930 --> 00:19:01.130 for your guys offensive line and given you something 00:19:01.130 --> 00:19:03.490 you really haven't had in the day ball era Which 00:19:03.490 --> 00:19:06.289 is functional offensive line play at the point 00:19:06.289 --> 00:19:08.049 of attack I mean you guys are competitive in 00:19:08.049 --> 00:19:10.410 the trenches in both the run game and in the 00:19:10.410 --> 00:19:12.930 pass program game in a way that you just haven't 00:19:12.930 --> 00:19:15.869 it feels like yeah And it feels like and I don't 00:19:15.869 --> 00:19:17.670 want to I don't want to get too money or you 00:19:17.670 --> 00:19:19.930 hope so But like you know the Giants still got 00:19:19.930 --> 00:19:22.230 a ways to go, but it feels like a lot of stuff 00:19:22.230 --> 00:19:26.500 around the scheme the personnel the continuity, 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:29.339 the chemistry at various levels is all coming 00:19:29.339 --> 00:19:33.180 together at just the right time. And sir, it 00:19:33.180 --> 00:19:36.279 may be at just the right time to save the aforementioned 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:39.500 Joe Shane and Brian Dayball from hitting the 00:19:39.500 --> 00:19:42.980 unemployment line this summer. I know there's 00:19:42.980 --> 00:19:45.279 a lot of football left, but give me your take. 00:19:46.059 --> 00:19:49.319 What do you, do you think Shane, even if the 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.789 season finishes like six and 10, seven and nine, 00:19:52.990 --> 00:19:55.730 like whatever it's gonna, or seven and 10, eight 00:19:55.730 --> 00:19:57.869 and nine, nine and eight, whatever it's gonna 00:19:57.869 --> 00:20:01.990 be. Do you feel like Shane has done enough to 00:20:01.990 --> 00:20:04.390 keep his job past this year? I think he has. 00:20:04.509 --> 00:20:08.809 I've always been a fan of Shane. I've never thought 00:20:08.809 --> 00:20:11.730 for the most part that the Giants' walls have 00:20:11.730 --> 00:20:15.789 been on Shane. I think, again, as I mentioned 00:20:15.789 --> 00:20:18.529 earlier, I think he drafts to fill out this roster. 00:20:18.650 --> 00:20:21.210 I don't think he makes... You know, a lot of 00:20:21.210 --> 00:20:24.809 questionable draft picks. Of course, the one 00:20:24.809 --> 00:20:27.829 thing that will always loom over his head is 00:20:27.829 --> 00:20:32.390 the decision about Saquon Barkley. But now the 00:20:32.390 --> 00:20:35.250 big thing is, is, you know, we have Kam Skadabu 00:20:35.250 --> 00:20:38.829 is playing at such a high level now. Does that, 00:20:38.829 --> 00:20:42.190 does that dark cloud over his head kind of dissipate 00:20:42.190 --> 00:20:44.630 because we have a guy now that's playing at such 00:20:44.630 --> 00:20:50.119 a high level. And right now. Statistically is 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:53.220 playing at a higher level in some stats than 00:20:53.220 --> 00:20:57.140 Saquon Barkley. In many, in many metrics he is, 00:20:57.279 --> 00:20:59.359 yeah. Yeah, and watching a lot of the Eagles 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:01.660 games, Saquon struggled to get a lot of space 00:21:01.660 --> 00:21:03.859 in the run game and run the ball effectively 00:21:03.859 --> 00:21:09.500 where Escadu hasn't. So, you know, maybe that 00:21:09.500 --> 00:21:13.079 dark cloud for fans kind of, and even, you know, 00:21:13.259 --> 00:21:16.319 Mara kind of disappears and, you know, they kind 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:19.430 of... Put that to the side and they focus on, 00:21:19.630 --> 00:21:22.890 okay, he's done well at building out our roster, 00:21:23.150 --> 00:21:25.789 making the right decisions. I think there's a 00:21:25.789 --> 00:21:30.809 couple other big decisions he can make that can 00:21:30.809 --> 00:21:35.690 help this team. So I think despite our record 00:21:35.690 --> 00:21:39.349 this year, if the Giants can remain competitive, 00:21:41.210 --> 00:21:45.930 not lose games they shouldn't lose. Unfortunately, 00:21:46.049 --> 00:21:48.470 the Santa was a game I thought we shouldn't have 00:21:48.470 --> 00:21:53.230 lost and we did, but stay competitive. I think 00:21:53.230 --> 00:21:59.470 Shane will be fine. Dable on the other hand. 00:22:00.670 --> 00:22:03.690 Yeah, it's okay. This is a safe space. I don't 00:22:03.690 --> 00:22:08.269 know with him. I think Mara got into the point 00:22:08.269 --> 00:22:14.420 where he's a little fed up with him. I know this 00:22:14.420 --> 00:22:17.920 is the big topic with Dayball now is his outburst 00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:22.000 with the medical staff and what that's portrayed 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:24.920 to the league and the NFLPA and what's going 00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:27.960 on with that and early rumors where he might 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:30.579 even see a suspension for it because the league 00:22:30.579 --> 00:22:33.940 of course is so big around player safety and 00:22:33.940 --> 00:22:36.220 the perception was now he's putting Jackson Dard 00:22:36.220 --> 00:22:40.390 in a risk of getting hurt. I don't know, because 00:22:40.390 --> 00:22:42.390 obviously it's been rough sledding with, with 00:22:42.390 --> 00:22:47.849 Dable at the helm. Um, I think he made the right 00:22:47.849 --> 00:22:49.750 decision this year. And I think we, we touched 00:22:49.750 --> 00:22:52.730 on it in, in our first podcast together is him 00:22:52.730 --> 00:22:57.029 giving the, the offense back, um, to CAFKA, which 00:22:57.029 --> 00:23:02.309 obviously again has proved to be a benefit. Um, 00:23:03.349 --> 00:23:07.890 but I think Mara just kind of has gotten to. 00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:14.579 a limit with him. Um, I, I'm not sure no matter 00:23:14.579 --> 00:23:18.299 how good the Giants do, if, if Dable can, can 00:23:18.299 --> 00:23:22.359 remain the head coach. Um, I just don't know 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:24.700 if, if he is the guy. Yeah, I love his energy. 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:27.740 Yeah, I love the fire he brings to the team, 00:23:27.740 --> 00:23:30.940 but you know, there's been times this year already 00:23:30.940 --> 00:23:33.599 where I questioned a lot of decisions he's made, 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:39.119 you know, early games in the year. where we're 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:43.000 fourth down and deep in the red zone and we're 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:46.319 going for it and it's just an atrocious play. 00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:50.720 We turn the ball over and now we go later in 00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:52.900 the game and those three points are the difference 00:23:52.900 --> 00:23:56.000 and another drive that could potentially win 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:00.160 us the game. You know, I think a lot of that 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:02.500 happened a lot in our game against the Chiefs. 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:06.279 Dallas was another one where we kick a field 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:09.759 goal on one drive. We're not even worried about 00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:13.420 overtime and it's decisions like that where, 00:24:13.420 --> 00:24:16.859 you know, part of you is like, you love the confidence 00:24:16.859 --> 00:24:18.579 and then you get to the end of the game and you're 00:24:18.579 --> 00:24:20.779 like, all right, what the hell? Like, what were 00:24:20.779 --> 00:24:23.319 we thinking? Go get the points, especially in 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.099 the first quarter. Like there's no reason in 00:24:25.099 --> 00:24:28.680 the first quarter not take points, especially 00:24:28.680 --> 00:24:30.660 against a division rival, especially against 00:24:30.910 --> 00:24:34.529 a team that's so strong like the Chiefs. So I 00:24:34.529 --> 00:24:36.369 think the things have just piled up with Dable 00:24:36.369 --> 00:24:40.990 where I think Mara is kind of over it and he's 00:24:40.990 --> 00:24:46.569 ready to move on. But again, I think Shane may 00:24:46.569 --> 00:24:50.829 be safe no matter what. But it'll definitely 00:24:50.829 --> 00:24:53.529 be interesting to see because it's been a topic 00:24:53.529 --> 00:24:55.569 of conversation after every year with Dable, 00:24:55.589 --> 00:24:59.609 whether he's safe or not. I'm interested to see 00:24:59.609 --> 00:25:03.029 as anyone what we're going to do. Yeah, same. 00:25:03.490 --> 00:25:06.769 And listen, as Bill's fan, we owe a lot to Dayball 00:25:06.769 --> 00:25:08.869 and everything he did for Allen's development, 00:25:09.130 --> 00:25:11.650 the development of that offense, helping to turn 00:25:11.650 --> 00:25:14.569 that team into what it is today. That dude's 00:25:14.569 --> 00:25:16.880 never going to have to pay for a beer. anywhere 00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:20.099 in Buffalo or the Orchard Park area. But that 00:25:20.099 --> 00:25:21.859 being said, I wouldn't want him as the head coach 00:25:21.859 --> 00:25:25.200 of my team. He just brings too much baggage to 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.099 the table, I think, at this stage in the game. 00:25:27.619 --> 00:25:30.579 I think, too, there's a lot of guys you see in 00:25:30.579 --> 00:25:34.200 the NFL who are just better off as coordinators. 00:25:35.339 --> 00:25:39.259 One example I'd always think of is Cliff Kingsbury 00:25:39.259 --> 00:25:43.000 with the commanders. He tried to coach the Cardinals. 00:25:43.220 --> 00:25:46.299 It wasn't pretty. He's back with the commanders 00:25:46.299 --> 00:25:49.380 now as their OC and he's absolutely thriving 00:25:49.380 --> 00:25:52.900 and he calls one of the better offensive schemes 00:25:52.900 --> 00:25:57.460 in the league with Jaden Daniels. And maybe that's 00:25:57.460 --> 00:26:00.079 the calling for Dable. Maybe he goes and finds 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:05.619 another home as an OC. And I don't wish any ill 00:26:05.619 --> 00:26:07.640 will on Dable as a coach. I wish him all the 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:09.900 success he brought us to the playoffs one year. 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:12.700 Obviously I'm hoping he can do it again this 00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:17.730 year. But I think there there could be some obviously 00:26:17.730 --> 00:26:19.910 possible good coaching candidates coming out 00:26:19.910 --> 00:26:22.470 of this year There's always a decent pool of 00:26:22.470 --> 00:26:25.809 candidates coming out. So You know again, it'll 00:26:25.809 --> 00:26:27.789 definitely be interesting to see what what Mara 00:26:27.789 --> 00:26:31.569 decides to do. Yeah 100 % All right. We are close 00:26:31.569 --> 00:26:33.410 coming close to the end of our time here Logan 00:26:33.410 --> 00:26:36.289 I do want to get your prediction sure to go wrong 00:26:36.289 --> 00:26:39.109 for your guys Turns out to be big game against 00:26:39.109 --> 00:26:41.769 the Broncos this weekend. But before we do that, 00:26:41.970 --> 00:26:45.319 you're an avid fantasy football guy you're involved 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.319 in one of the most competitive leagues I think 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.619 I have ever encountered. Tell me a little bit 00:26:51.619 --> 00:26:53.200 about how fantasy is going for you this year 00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:55.859 in your league and are there any tips, tricks 00:26:55.859 --> 00:26:57.640 or advice that you want to give our listeners 00:26:57.640 --> 00:26:59.640 as we embark here on the second third of the 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:04.859 season? As much as I hate to say it, fantasy 00:27:04.859 --> 00:27:10.220 so far this year has been rough for me. I came 00:27:10.220 --> 00:27:16.680 out of the draft projected by Yahoo to go 13 00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:21.619 and one and win the league I Can most definitely 00:27:21.619 --> 00:27:25.480 say I will not be going 13 and one winning the 00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:29.960 leagues obvious question But it's it's been rough 00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.759 for me. I was very confident with my roster to 00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:37.279 start the year You know, it's the ebbs and flows 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.430 of fantasy football Can guess and predict how 00:27:41.430 --> 00:27:43.609 a guy's going to do and how a team's going to 00:27:43.609 --> 00:27:47.170 play, um, all you want pre -season and things 00:27:47.170 --> 00:27:50.130 just will not go that way. And I've had a lot 00:27:50.130 --> 00:27:53.930 of that. Um, the Von Aishan, the Dolphins offense 00:27:53.930 --> 00:27:59.089 looks putrid. Terrible. Early on, they failed 00:27:59.089 --> 00:28:02.589 to give him the ball a lot. Ali Gordon was getting 00:28:02.589 --> 00:28:05.549 a lot of work. So that, that hasn't helped the 00:28:05.549 --> 00:28:08.049 Raiders offense. I have Jacoby Myers, another 00:28:08.049 --> 00:28:12.660 one. offense looks horrible. The Ravens, another 00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:17.759 one, the whole team looks lost. So it's been 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:23.180 rough. My team actually put up its year high 00:28:23.180 --> 00:28:26.519 in points and just shy of 150 last week. So that 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:28.920 was a great feeling. So I'm hoping to keep that 00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:33.079 momentum going into this week. But yeah, it's 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:35.099 been rough. I'm trying to stay away from the 00:28:35.099 --> 00:28:38.829 one chip challenge. I'm ninth in the league right 00:28:38.829 --> 00:28:44.369 now, I think out of 12. So, um, tips and tricks. 00:28:44.750 --> 00:28:47.990 Oh, I don't know if I'm the, the one to say this. 00:28:48.309 --> 00:28:53.210 Go back, go back in auto -draft. Obviously as 00:28:53.210 --> 00:28:55.250 a lot of fantasy football players, no waiver 00:28:55.250 --> 00:28:59.210 wires. He, um, I was fortunate enough to pick 00:28:59.210 --> 00:29:02.009 up, come out even doll last week. And although 00:29:02.009 --> 00:29:06.390 I didn't start him, he was a, he obviously played 00:29:06.390 --> 00:29:10.660 very well. And obviously I actually traded them 00:29:10.660 --> 00:29:12.740 this week for a couple of smaller pieces that 00:29:12.740 --> 00:29:16.460 I think can help my team with that. So, waiver 00:29:16.460 --> 00:29:19.460 wire is key to winning championships always. 00:29:19.819 --> 00:29:22.039 live by that because there's always gems on the 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:24.680 waiver wire every year. Very nice, man. I that 00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:27.180 I mean, that's sage advice. I'm still playing 00:29:27.180 --> 00:29:31.099 my degenerate gambler daily fantasy stuff, right? 00:29:31.220 --> 00:29:34.599 So I mean, your tips and tricks and will be lost 00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:36.700 on me because I'm just basically refreshing my 00:29:36.700 --> 00:29:40.339 team every week. Much to little effect, right? 00:29:40.380 --> 00:29:42.720 I would actually kill to be nine out of 12 given 00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:45.119 where I'm at this year with that. But yeah. All 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:46.420 right, man. Well, listen, best of luck. Hopefully 00:29:46.420 --> 00:29:48.900 it turns around for you before we let you go. 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.240 Y 'all got a big one, right? And I think this 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.180 is a game that's going to determine a lot of 00:29:53.180 --> 00:29:55.859 what you guys do at the trade deadline. If you 00:29:55.859 --> 00:29:58.839 guys take down the Broncos, I think you do maybe 00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.859 make a play for a wide receiver and just hell 00:30:01.859 --> 00:30:03.779 with it. Go all in and try to make a playoff 00:30:03.779 --> 00:30:06.339 push and a surprising vulnerable division. But 00:30:06.339 --> 00:30:09.940 the Broncos, that's a tall task while Bo Nix 00:30:09.940 --> 00:30:14.039 is maybe not what a lot of people thought he 00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:16.740 was at the beginning of the season. That defense 00:30:16.740 --> 00:30:20.319 certainly is that Broncos defense is legit. And 00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.420 it's going to be the biggest test I think this 00:30:22.420 --> 00:30:25.119 this revitalized offensive line of yours, and 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.279 this new rookie sensation QB are going to have 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.500 faced. So give it to us quick here, sir. What's 00:30:30.500 --> 00:30:31.940 your score prediction? How do you think this 00:30:31.940 --> 00:30:35.559 is going to unfold for your G men? Both score 00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:44.539 prediction. I'm going to go 21 -17 Giants. Damn. 00:30:44.859 --> 00:30:46.839 All right. Now you got to give us details. Close 00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:49.599 game. Obviously, I think there's going to be 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:55.700 points. But I think defenses are obviously going 00:30:55.700 --> 00:30:59.039 to reign in this game. I think 21 is the high 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.720 end of the points scored. I think it's two great 00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.220 defenses with two great pass rushes going at 00:31:04.220 --> 00:31:07.799 each other. I think it's just going to be a matter 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.859 of which defense breaks first. and who can find 00:31:11.859 --> 00:31:15.279 a weak point in each other's defense. Broncos 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:17.819 are obviously the cream of the crop when it comes 00:31:17.819 --> 00:31:22.000 to defenses this year. So like you said, interesting 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.039 to see how this line will hold up. They're great 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:27.680 at getting to the QB. I believe they're first 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.680 in sacks in the league right now, in part to 00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:35.759 a huge game they had last week. So obviously 00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:39.990 they're secondary with Pats or Tan as Phenomenal 00:31:39.990 --> 00:31:44.890 so like you said it'll be a big test on the offensive 00:31:44.890 --> 00:31:48.829 side and the defensive side. I like you said 00:31:48.829 --> 00:31:51.210 well next hasn't lived up to what a lot of people 00:31:51.210 --> 00:31:53.450 thought he was going to be at the beginning of 00:31:53.450 --> 00:31:55.630 the year but their offense is still dangerous 00:31:55.630 --> 00:31:59.849 they still have dangerous pieces so. I'm excited 00:31:59.849 --> 00:32:03.630 and I like you said it'll be a huge game to kind 00:32:03.630 --> 00:32:06.069 of decide what the rest of our year looks like. 00:32:06.970 --> 00:32:11.529 Yeah, man for sure for sure Listen Logan as always. 00:32:11.529 --> 00:32:14.309 Thank you for the time I will be rooting for 00:32:14.309 --> 00:32:17.569 your G men this week because every time an AFC 00:32:17.569 --> 00:32:21.329 AFC playoff contender loses a game Bills mafia 00:32:21.329 --> 00:32:24.109 Super Bowl hopes gets its wings So I'll definitely 00:32:24.109 --> 00:32:26.910 be rooting for you Giants this weekend But thank 00:32:26.910 --> 00:32:29.029 you again sir for your time much appreciated 00:32:29.029 --> 00:32:31.710 and as always for all of you listening at home 00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:33.759 Like, share and subscribe wherever you get your 00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:37.279 podcasts. 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