Welcome back to the Buffalo Bread Podcast. I
am your host, Dan Roberts, rolling with one of
our stable of highly reliable co -hosts today,
one Michael Kajowski filling in for JJ Bryce.
As many of you listeners at home know, during
the course of the season, JJ and his family have
been dealing with some private health issues.
The good news is his family is on the mend. We
send Maya, we send Thea, we send JJ our love.
We send them our best as they heal up and get
through the the time that they're going through
as a family. And JJ will be back post by on the
pod to give you the awesome analysis that you
all have been so used to over the past five years.
But we're very fortunate today to have one Mike
Kujawski here with us. And it's really, I think,
appropriate, Mike, that you're joining us at
this time. Bill's Mafia, as you may know from
reading the interwebs in the social media, we're
in her feelings a bit. After two straight losses,
one to not only a hated rival on the Patriots,
but a hated rival that also basically is having
a better time with our ex -girlfriend than we
ever had with them when they were in our house.
Of course, I'm talking about Stefan Diggs. And
then the dismantling that we all saw in primetime
on Monday night at the hands of a young but highly
talented, highly athletic Atlanta Falcons group.
Kujo, we kind of joke offline that you are the
Mr. Bright side of Bill's mafia. Not only do
you bring a ton of energy to your fanship, but
you are also very well known for like going into
the depths of the worst places where you can
find Bill's mafia on social media and literally
try to talk them off the ledge. So we thought,
Rather than giving the typical analysis that
you're getting out there from the Falcons game
for the bills at the buy, where it's like trade
for this guy trade for that guy, we wanted to
bring in our own Mr. Brightside and you Kujo
to help us talk nervous mafia off the ledge.
All right. Now I want to jump right into it.
And I think before we do a little historical
context is important to remind our listeners
of the bills have been here before this is the
cycle of sort of this inevitability that they're
in. where they start the season hot, they hit
a two, three, even four game skid in the middle
of the season, the second quarter of the season,
where everything looks like they're less talented
than the other team. They've got worse coaching
than the other team, the whole nine yards. Eventually,
they pull it together post Halloween when the
football really matters. And then we've been
fortunate enough to see the Bills on the playoffs
for many consecutive years. So my first question
for you, Cujo, as you begin the process, of working
bills mafia through our feelings. Is this the
same old bill squad? And can we assume that they're
going to get it together like they have in the
past few years? Or is this different for some
reason in your mind? And is there actual peril
ahead for this team? Great question, Dan. And
hello, everyone. Great to be here again. I have
to say it's definitely not the same bill squad,
right? I think this year rolling in The vibes
are really positive, whereas last year the vibes
were, oh, this is definitely not their year.
And then all of a sudden, by the end of the year,
it was like getting to say, I told you so, and
the famous video right before the playoffs, right,
where they just recapped all the hate and all
the talk. So I would say, quiet down the noise,
Bill's Mafia, turn it down, turn off the feedback
loops. Yes, we all need to vent, right? But let's
separate that. From the perspective that we have,
we still have Josh Allen. We still have James
Cook. We still have four wins. The last time
we went 5 -0. I looked this up before this pod
because I'm not the biggest stats guy. I was
trying to impress you, Dan. Last time we went
5 -0 was 1991, right? We've gone 4 -0. I think
that was in 2020. But we had to expect a loss
coming up. So I think that this isn't as dangerous
as it feels. I think the coincidence of losing
twice in a row, those two things are related.
And I really, what you said about Diggs and the
ex -girlfriend, like I felt the knife turning
when you said that in my side. Because yeah,
it was like that. And I think that had something
to do with it. I think his, his vibes, you know,
sunk up the joint. And I think it was that combined
with It was our Icarus moment. We got too close
to the sun. Okay, we got too excited. We had
all the reason to be excited. Like, if we had
lost the first game of the year, you know, the
tone up until that point would have been totally
different. And even after we lost to the Patriots,
if Kansas City had lost that same week, you know,
we wouldn't have been as devastated again. So,
be careful. You know, comparison's the theft
of joy. And, you know, we still have so much
going for us. And if anything, you know, the
whole thing with digs in New England is like
a new storyline. It's like we needed a new villain.
Miami was too easy. You know, it seemed like
the Chiefs were falling apart and then the refs
had to come back and help them again, you know,
and, you know, we got past Baltimore. So, you
know, we need a new we need a new enemy. We need
a new. I don't want to say enemy, I want to say
villain, because it's more playful, right? It's
still football. Exactly. Your Icarus moment comment,
I think carries a couple of different meanings
for me. I mean, I think yes, I think, and we
experienced this in 2021 or 2022. Where the bills
were just bandied about is the Super Bowl favorites.
The Vaude Miller signing comes through like they're
everyone's number one team preseason and you
could feel the weight of expectations kind of
crippling that team. And I feel like it was the
same thing this season add to the fact where
we were kind of playing with fire through other
than the Jets game. The remainder of the four
games that we won. I mean, it wasn't convincing
against lesser competition. And you could see
some of the warts on this offensive scheme. You
could obviously see the issues game in and game
out on the defensive side of the ball. And I
think I think to see it come crashing down in
the way that it did is why a lot of Bills fans
are spinning out. But to your point, if you were
paying attention through the first four games,
you saw the inevitability of this happening.
And if you're paying attention to the way the
Bills play, play the game, the way they roll
out their scheme slowly throughout the course
of the season on both the offensive and the defensive
side of the ball, you could kind of see this
coming too. I also love the fact that you just
used Icarus moment on a pot about football shows
how well educated you are. But again, you're
right. It's tough. It's tough to go undefeated.
And there's a lot of parody in the NFL this season,
and anybody can beat anybody. And we see it happen
literally every week, right? The only winless
team in the league right now is the Jets. And
even they've come close on a couple of occasions,
most notably in the first week against the Pittsburgh
Steelers. So listen, man, everybody's going to
get their win at some time. You can't always
predict when it's going to be and everybody's
going to take an L. It is hard to go undefeated
for any stretch of time. And I think your words
carry a lot of wisdom to it and that Listen,
we've been here before. It's hard to go foreign
to especially with the deficiencies the squad
has. There is definitely a lot that you can isolate
and take away that is positive. So that segues
us into I think the next question I have for
you. So we're not a reaction pod. But we me and
JJ always like to break down some of the lessons
learned. from the previous game the Bills played
and apply it to the game they have coming up.
Now this is a bye week for the Bills so there
is no game preview this week. But I still think
it's worth taking a look at that Falcons game
from a 30 ,000 foot view. And I want to ask you
this, is there anything despite kind of like
your positive outlook that you saw during the
Falcons game? that you think other teams are
going to be able to replicate in order to handle
the bills? Or was this just a bad matchup, man?
I mean, listen, the Falcons have been drafting
at the top of the NFL draft for many, many years.
They've got first round picks in Drake London,
Bijon Robinson, Michael Pennex, all who had their
heyday against the Bills on Monday. And then
they've got several first round draft picks and
savvy free agent signings like Jesse Bates all
over the defensive side of the ball as well.
Is this just the case of the Bills running up
against a more talented team or do you think
there is something a larger concern to take away
from the way the Bills got beat against the Falcons?
I think the Bills beat themselves. Interesting.
I think the Bills beat themselves both games.
More clearly in the Patriots game but the penalties.
Definitely. And the risks it felt to me is if
we were taking big risks throwing the ball. when
we had some easier decision making that would
have. Can this on the field with a cap the momentum
when i got the first downs and we were taking
maybe it was i don't know what the process was
was trying to get some bigger plays going but
i think we beat ourselves. Despite that team
having more strength than even i was expecting
like i don't. think about the Falcons very much.
I don't know too much about them as compared
to, you know, teams in our division. So I think
despite their strength, the Bills still beat
themselves. And that's why we're all upset is
because everyone still expected the Bills to
win. You know, and I think coming off of another
game that again, at home, we expected to win,
you know, in our house, we're going to show digs
what's up. You know, it's prime time and we ate
it. I mean, Big time and that was I don't know
the number of penalties, but that was it was
11 in that 11 in the Patriots game Big ones too,
but the injuries is also a big part of this story.
So You know, we're banged up. We're real banged
up and then you know, I know you and I were talking
about this before So I think Cook, you know and
some of the the fact that they didn't utilize
their weapons. They didn't tailor the playbook
enough for the weapons that they had left. That
piece, yes. They didn't make enough adjustments.
Maybe they had a game plan and it had to change
and they were forcing a square peg into a round
hole. But there's something, man. Maybe Josh
and Haley are fighting. Something happened. That's
kind of my other secret philosophy. Josh is a
married man now. It's like, you know, it's like
stunt, like daredevils. It's like they don't
have a family. They have no consequences. Then
all of a sudden they fall in love and it's like,
well, I can't risk it anymore. I can't be a race
car driver anymore. Cause you know, I have something
to lose now. You know, maybe he's going through
that. It's tough being married first year and
you're the star quarterback. And now you're on
all the commercials too. Like, you know, it's
even more pressure than he's used to handling.
So. You know, yeah, maybe he cracked up a little
bit, but he'll come back stronger and absolutely
devastate. You know, dude, I love the, the top
level psychoanalysis that's going on here. Um,
and as a married man, as a married man, I can
absolutely speak to the, yes, the minute you
get married, you know, Josh has said this in
his interviews too. Like you do start to think
of yourself as something. that's a piece of something
bigger than yourself, right? And he said as much
he's like, you know what, maybe I don't just
need to be a football player. And I think that's
great growth for him. But dude, the point you
brought up about cook and not tailoring the playbook,
I think is, I think speaks so strongly to why
Bill's mafia feels so I don't want to say cheated
over the past two games. But it feels like we
left meat on the bone for sure. For sure. Dude,
me and JJ, we have been begging, begging for
early down play action shots down the field to
stretch out defenses and just decompress the
line of scrimmage a little bit. First play of
that Falcons game. I literally levitated off
my couch with joy when I saw them roll out 12
personnel and then take a play action shot on
first down for 45 yards to Josh Palmer. I had
an out of body experience. I was so happy. And
then they just kind of left it on. They just
left the rest of those pages of the playbook
kind of somewhere else for the rest of the game.
Same thing with James Cook usage, which I, I
for his entire stretch with the Bills have not
understood this running back rotation. I thought
they had finally figured it out because he was
playing more snaps in the first five games of
the season. And then on that Falcons game, you're
rolling out Ty Johnson in your third down package.
Like the drop off between cook. Anti -Johnson
is so significant and add to the fact, as you
mentioned, they lost weapons throughout the game.
Um, Palmer goes out there. I didn't have Kincaid
in the game. Like at some point you've got to
decide as a coaching staff, who are your weapons?
Who do you want opposing defenses to be afraid
of? And then how do you accentuate and take advantage
of that fear? and scheme something for your top
weapons that is going to make defenses, put defenses
in conflict. And Brady failed to do that. I feel
like in the Pats game and then most noticeably
in this Falcons game. Like at the end of the
day, if you think Shakir and Cook and Coleman
are your best weapons, figure out how to keep
them on the field together and figure out how
to maximize them. And I think that was the piece
of frustration why we're all spinning out because
Listen, there's been a lot of talk that we're
devoid of talent. I don't think that's the case.
I do think we're a guy short in the wide receiver
room for sure. Right. But, but you're not maximizing
the talent that's already on the roster. Like
I had a great, great conversation on social media
with a listener today who, um, you know, I just
made this big argument, uh, laid out some stats.
I was like, put Ken Coleman in the slot. He can't
get off press coverage. You're using men in 84
% clip. in a wide alignment on the outside, move
them to the slot, put them in a stack formation,
get them off the line of scrimmage so that he's
not the first one receiving contact and press
from an opposing DB and give him a little bit
of separation room right off the line. And, you
know, a person asked, I think it was a very valid
question, like, okay, cool. But if he plays the
slot, like who's going to play on the outside.
And I kind of ran through it. And at the end,
I was like, listen, we're all clamoring. for
the bills to trade for Chris Olave, the wide
receiver from the New Orleans Saints. Olave only
plays on the outside about 59 % of his snaps.
So what? we're going to trade for him. And then
we're going to put him on the X Island that we
have Coleman on instead, like a lot of is not
effective there either. So at some point, regardless
of whether it's not a dude you trade for, or
a dude you have on the roster, there is meat
still on the bone with this game and this playbook,
where you could be better maximizing the talent
that's already on the roster. And that piece,
the piece that you were speaking to earlier about,
I think is the thing that has has us crashing
out so hard and why it has us crashing out so
hard. But listen, maybe he's playing maybe he's
playing 3D chess. Okay. Isn't this too bright
side? Maybe he's playing 3D chess and maybe,
you know, we just don't know the grand scheme.
And, you know, maybe there was a couple tricks
that didn't didn't pop. And so it just looks
worse than it is, you know, maybe they were testing
some stuff out and maybe they're come off the
buy. I'll ask you this question. Do you think
we're going to see a different look? Either defensively
or offensively after the by like dramatically
different where the other teams haven't seen
yet this season I think I think on the defensive
side of the ball. It's almost a definite because
They've kind of been hedging their bets on the
defense that listen, you're not going to see
the full version of what this bill's defense
can do until they get all their pieces back after
the buy. Michael Hoyt, whatever you think he's
going to be worth. Larry Ogunjobi, who I don't
have really high hopes for. But now, especially
with Sanders on IR, he's an important depth piece
on the defensive line. And then of course, our
number one draft pick this year, rookie Maxwell
Hairston. Hopefully we get to see him and a little
bit of athleticism and that CB2 spot. opposite
Christian Benford. So I think the Bills defense
is going to look different just because A, it
needs to. It's looked terrible. It can't look
any more terrible than this. But B, you are going
to get pieces, I think, that are going to help
address some of the weaknesses they've had on
defense. Like the advanced metrics say that the
Buffalo Bills defensive line for the most part,
the four -man rush in particular, has been really
effective this year. The problem is coverage
isn't holding up. So what do you bring back?
You bring back a chess piece and Michael Hoyt,
who, I mean, the LA Rams dude, they did some
wild stuff with him, lining him up on the edge,
lining him up on the interior, then dropping
him into coverage because of his freaky athleticism.
That's going to be a really fun piece for Babich
and McDermott to play with. And it's going to
help that coverage game, especially if Milano
continues to be hurt. I mean, I see Hoyt, despite
his size is more of like a middle line, like
old school middle linebacker type. that the bills
are going to like decoy at the line a lot of
times and not use him in straight pass rest situations
and instead drop them back to coverage. I think
that's going to confuse a lot of guys and cloud
a lot of their looks for opposing QBs. And I
love that. Um, on the offensive side, it has
to look different. It like, it just, like we
said, they're not maximizing the talent they
have on the roster, almost to a point of stubbornness.
I think you're going to see the snap share really
rain in. And I think you're going to see Shakir
out there for more than just 49 % of the snaps
per game. I think you're going to see Coleman
in a different alignment across all the wide
receiver spots. And I think you're going to see
them try to push 11 personnel just a little bit
more with some version of Coleman, Palmer, and
Shakir out there. Um, and then concave hopefully
back healthy as well. Um, they still have one
of the top three highest EPAs per play out of
11 personnel. They just, they don't roll it out
all that much. Cause Brady loves these big condensed
12 and 13 personnel packages and he loves to
run the ball out of them. But at some point you
gotta find a way to get your three best pass
catchers out there or your four best pass catchers
out there and 12 and 13 personnel aren't going
to do that. So I am hopeful it is going to look
different. because I think teams have kind of
figured out this version of the Bill's offense.
And if they keep running it back in this way,
they're just going to run into that same wall.
And there's a couple of teams, dude, that they
can do what the Falcons did to us. They can do
what the Patriots did to us coming up. Tampa
Bay, I think is going to be a problem. Listen,
we know the Chiefs in that history. We've got
Philly down the line as well. I mean, it's going
to have to look different. It's a great question.
I want to flip this back on you and ask you because
you are, again, Everything you say is so like
soaked with this genuine positivity. Like what
have you seen despite the struggles of the past
two weeks that you think should give Bill's mafia
hope? I think it's scheme changes. I think that
stuff coming for you. What have you seen over
the past two weeks that despite all the negativity
should still give us optimism. Commercials. Commercials.
Josh Allen is on TV. And guess what that means?
That means somebody else isn't. It's not an all
state commercial every single time. Right. So
that gives me hope. Right. Seems like that in
and of itself, despite when it's double edged
sword, it's amazing when we're winning and then
the commercial breaks still Josh Allen. When
we're losing, it hurts twice as bad. But, you
know, that's love, baby. You know, we love Josh,
that's how it goes. But at least we don't have
to look at Patti Mahomes as ugly mug anymore.
So that gives me more hope. Just that alone is
like, let's count our blessings and take a moment
to hold space for that, huh? Because how bad
was that? Like now we can stomach a flash to
T -Swift or, you know, Travis Swift or whatever
is going on there. But, you know, so that gives
me hope. Also, like Think of the other teams
and you know what's going on with them. We could
be the Jets, man. We're not thank you. Sorry,
you know, sorry good Yeah, like we we still have
a good coach and a good GM and we're gonna get
a new stadium and XYZ like all that stuff still
true. Yeah, we had two ugly losses and we wish
we had him back, but it's going to be now the
fodder And especially this new you know storyline
with the patriots being you know like they used
to be except they seem a lot more beatable now
despite the last game so you know now we've got
some more motivation where is we had a little
bit of hubris and now we can replace that with
that classic bills grind and grit and. I'm pretty
excited to see you know how strong they can be
off the bike well rested. you know, mentally
recharged and then with, you know, a lot of more
depth. There's some good names in that list that's
coming back. And even if we don't know what they're
going to do, they're warm bodies that are not
injured. So it's going to help like no matter
what. Yes, I love that. Before we get into predictions
after the buy, because I mean, what would we
be if we didn't do predictions sure to go wrong?
Listen, again, your positivity is great. That's
exactly what we needed in this kind of recap
episode here. But despite all that, as a fan
watching the product on the field, there has
to be something you think the bills need to tweak,
be it a personnel move, a scheme move. I mean,
the AFC is so wide open this year, dude. Like,
yes, the Chiefs offense, when they get Rishi
Rice back, it's going to be an absolute wagon,
or at least it looks like it is. But that defense
is very, very gettable this year, despite the
fact that Spags is still one of the best guys
Colin plays in the league. The Ravens, like we've
seen what the start to their seasons looked like.
I love what the Colts are doing, but Danny Dimes
has been a journeyman QB for a reason. Like the
AFC is so gettable this year. With all that in
mind, are there some moves or are there some
changes you'd like to see the bills make over
the buy that you think will bolster their chances
to stay in it and maybe ascend to the top in
that one seat in the AFC? Absolutely. I mean,
it's already theirs. It's theirs to lose. And
we begged for Running game. We have a running
game. Let's use it I think we get too hasty get
a couple of jabs in we go for the big haymaker
and we should you know Pepper up a little bit
more. I think we could play We're scoring a lot
of points early at least the first couple games
but running the ball and having a Longer term
game plan beating them up tiring them out and
then having Josh just absolutely trample them
You know instead of he was going back to superhero
mode And. We've seen him do it alone okay but
you know that's a riskier game plan and we prefer
it when he doesn't have to be Superman Josh from
the past it's exciting that's high risk high
reward. Okay we've seen it when and now we've
seen it like yikes you know that third interception
yikes what you know but then you know rewind
the first four games how good do we take care
of the ball amazing so. It's not broken. Okay,
just refocus. But I think we do need to make
that adjustment for sure. Run. And maybe there's
a secret injury we don't know about but run.
Yeah, I think that secret injury might be Terrell
Bernard. He looks I mean, the bills were objectively
better. in that Falcons game when Bernard was
off the field. I don't know if he's battling
something nagging or not. It'll be interesting
to see if he shows up on the injury report next
week ahead of the Panthers game, but he he definitely
doesn't look like himself. All right, sir. We're
going to finish this thing up strong with our
standard prediction sure to go wrong. I've got
this in two ways for you first. I'm looking for
a short -term prediction from you. So coming
out of the buy, the Bills are going to have the
Panthers right off the gate in Carolina. Then
they're going to welcome the Kansas City Chiefs
to Highmark Stadium for a late afternoon window
game in Buffalo. So give me your prediction.
Bills versus Panthers, Bills versus Chiefs. What
are the outcomes of those games coming out of
the buy? I think the Panthers games got to be
a bloodbath. Like, it's got to be the blowout
win that we wanted to see, I think, against the
Pats. I think we wanted that blowout and then
all of a sudden this quarterback that we weren't
paying attention to, you know, showed up. So,
I think Josh has got to be mad enough by now
and everybody else has got to be motivated enough
that. The discipline is gonna lock in and the
pallies are gonna go away the bench thanks gonna
be there and they're gonna go back to be to being
overwhelming you know like coming off of the
fourth game i heard people saying a bunch of
naive bill stuff. Like the word you know unstoppable
undefeated okay and i'm all about being positive
but like let's manage expectations here. And
be a little more humble but they're still. you
know, immense amount of hope. And I think Panthers
is, I think, hopefully a bloodbath, which then
gives us the momentum we need to confidently
face the Chiefs who, frankly, I'm not as scared
of as Baltimore when they're really cooking.
So, you know, I think the playoffs is a different
story, but during the regular season, you know,
it's gonna be a close game. But I don't know,
didn't we like pull? pull Josh in the fourth
quarter last time we played him or something
like that. Like there was an easy game against
them in the recent past. So I don't think we'll
see that because they all of a sudden woke up
from their slumber. So we'll see. They're inconsistent
too. You know, they're not as the scary juggernaut
that they once were that now that's us. And,
you know, we have to rise to the occasion. Love
that. No, I love that. All right, man. Final
prediction. When it's all said and done, and
the dust settles on the 2025 Buffalo Bills season,
where do they end up? In the playoffs, one seed,
division winners, where does it all end for the
Buffalo Bills this season? Absolutely post -season.
That's probably as far as I'm willing to go because
I think at that point, it's any team's game and
there's just so much that can change. But I think
we... Here's what I think happens. I think we
need somebody else to beat the Chiefs for us
in the playoffs and we have them a better a good
enough record To make that happen. I think we're
on pace to have like To potentially clinch a
number one seed. I don't know if we have that
anymore So I think we're gonna I think we're
gonna need Like a favorable playoff alignment
if you will Like where someone else can maybe
take care of our worst enemy for us. And if that
happens, then I think we're in the big game What
if not? I think it's a it's a it's a coin toss,
baby. Damn. Yeah, I I think I agree. I think
there's a lot of interesting teams in the AFC
Pittsburgh. I mean they just I don't Listen,
they're four and one and no one's talking about
them because I think people are over the Aaron
Rodgers thing But that's a squad that's playing
really well, and that's great. It's a tough defense
too, man And Rogers is still me. He's still laying
it on guys and like impossible positions He also
looks like he's having a great time. Yes, he
looks here, which is not good for anybody. Just
pisses me off I don't want Aaron Rodgers to have
a good time, man. You know, the Colts, again,
I think they've got really good personnel. They
just have not been able, they've not been able
to hit on the QB, but Danny Dimes is doing enough
on Stike and Scheme. You know, I could, and the
charges have already beat the Chiefs, even though
they're really banged up, especially along the
offensive line. I think Bill's Chiefs, neither
defense is going to be able to stop the opposing
team's offense. I just, they don't. The Chiefs
don't have, despite having Chris Jones and Trent
McDuffie, what the Falcons have along the defensive
line, what the Patriots have along the defensive
line, and in their secondary with Gonzalez and
Davis, like I think, and I don't think the Bills
have any chance of stopping. Rishi Rice, Xavier
Worthy, and Hollywood Brown. And Ty Kwan Thornton,
who's absolutely come out of nowhere for them
is like their fourth best wide receiver and unbeatable
deep threat for the Chiefs. So yeah, I agree.
I think whenever it gets into shootout territory
with the Chiefs, you've got to lean Chiefs because
they've been in that situation for so long and
they know how to pull it out. So yeah, I'm with
you for the most part. For me, I still got my
hopes set for Super Bowl, but I know realistically,
It's probably going to be a solid playoff run
and then, you know, someone else will be holding
up the Lombardi. Um, but you know, that's also
just me talking as I usually talk. That's how
I talk. That's how I, that's how I talk this
time of year. I'm not going to let us end on
that because we have to believe and Hey, we've
had way worse shots than this. So We have. We
got a new stadium coming and we've got a lot
of momentum. We're America's favorite team right
now. That's my bold prediction. I really think
we are. We're like lovable, huggable and people
are tired of Kansas City. So I think there's
power in the people. And I think, you know, the
people will be victorious. Dude, that's that
is Marley -esque to the point of perfection.
I really appreciate that. All right, Kujo, before
I let you go here, in addition to us working
together in the entertainment industry, you are
also a professional musician. Would love to give
you the chance to shout out a couple of your
socials. How can people reach out to you if they
ever want to inquire about your services? Yeah,
thanks for that, Dan. I am a bassist, electric
double bassist, band leader, spent a long time
cruising the world playing bass and having fun,
and I'm in Syracuse now. I'm doing freelance
stuff, played funk and waffles, jazz jam, so
jazz guys, if you're out there, I'm there a couple
times a month usually, but you can find me at
Kujo, K -U -J -O, Kujo Music. Most of my socials,
you just type that in, you'll find me. Kujomusic
.com is my website. You can see a bunch of my
services, so I give lessons, I do arrangements
for singers or bands, and a bunch of other stuff
there. Yeah, if you just want to cruise around
and see some fun stuff I did at CujoMusic .com.
So yeah, thanks for the shout out, Dan. Yeah,
dude, no problem. And listen, thank you for stepping
up and listen, thank you for keeping Bill's Mafia
level at this very, very difficult time we all
going through. The positivity is always welcome
on the pod, sir. We needed it. Hey, it took me
a day or two, but it's there. Without without
a doubt for all of you listening at home as always
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